1 00:00:08,376 --> 00:00:09,710 >> THIS HAS REALLY GOTTEN OUT OF 2 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:11,712 CONTROL. 3 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:13,481 >> SOMEBODY THAT CAME FROM A 4 00:00:13,481 --> 00:00:15,049 NORMAL HOME AND WALKED IN THAT 5 00:00:15,049 --> 00:00:16,450 HOUSE, THEY'D GO, "OH, MY GOD." 6 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:19,153 >> HER KIDS GOT PULLED FROM HER 7 00:00:19,153 --> 00:00:19,753 HOME. 8 00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:20,754 >> [ CRYING ] 9 00:00:20,754 --> 00:00:23,091 IT'S A DIRTY, LITTLE SECRET 10 00:00:23,091 --> 00:00:25,226 WHICH I'M ASHAMED OF. 11 00:00:25,226 --> 00:00:27,795 >> THERE WAS A REALLY VERY CLEAR 12 00:00:27,795 --> 00:00:29,597 AND PRESENT DANGER. 13 00:00:29,597 --> 00:00:32,232 >> HE HAD MANAGED TO TRASH THE 14 00:00:32,232 --> 00:00:33,067 PLACE. 15 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:34,502 >> I HATE WALKING THROUGH OUR 16 00:00:34,502 --> 00:00:35,069 HOUSE. 17 00:00:35,069 --> 00:00:36,204 TO SEE IT LIKE IT IS IS JUST 18 00:00:36,204 --> 00:00:36,737 GROSS. 19 00:00:36,737 --> 00:00:38,406 >> IF I WOKE UP TOMORROW AND 20 00:00:38,406 --> 00:00:40,108 EVERYTHING WAS GONE, I WOULD 21 00:00:40,108 --> 00:00:42,410 PROBABLY FREAK OUT. 22 00:01:15,776 --> 00:01:20,714 >> MY NAME'S PATTY, AND I'M 48. 23 00:01:21,115 --> 00:01:23,451 WELL, OUTSIDE THE HOME, I MEAN, 24 00:01:23,451 --> 00:01:24,685 I'M VERY OUTGOING. 25 00:01:24,685 --> 00:01:26,720 I DO A LOT WITH MY KIDS, YOU 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,157 KNOW, AT SCHOOL AND ATHLETICALLY 27 00:01:29,157 --> 00:01:31,259 WITH THEIR SPORTS ACTIVITIES. 28 00:01:31,259 --> 00:01:33,561 KIND OF LOOK FOR STUFF FOR ME, 29 00:01:33,561 --> 00:01:34,695 FOR MY DAUGHTER. 30 00:01:34,695 --> 00:01:36,864 IT'S LIKE LEADING A DOUBLE LIFE. 31 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:38,732 I HAVE TO BE ONE WAY OUTSIDE OF 32 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:40,601 MY HOME, AND THEN I COME INSIDE 33 00:01:40,601 --> 00:01:46,207 OF MY HOME AND REALITY SETS IN. 34 00:01:46,207 --> 00:01:48,542 EVERYBODY HAS THEIR ISSUES. 35 00:01:48,542 --> 00:01:51,212 SOME OF THEM ARE MORE VISIBLE 36 00:01:51,212 --> 00:01:53,214 THAN OTHERS. 37 00:01:53,214 --> 00:01:56,284 AND MY ISSUE IS THIS. 38 00:01:56,284 --> 00:01:58,519 NOBODY KNOWS, AND I'M SURE THEY 39 00:01:58,519 --> 00:02:00,154 WOULD BE VERY SHOCKED. 40 00:02:00,154 --> 00:02:00,788 [ SIGHS ] 41 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:02,823 AND ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, 42 00:02:02,823 --> 00:02:04,858 WE HAVE, BASICALLY, ASIDE FROM 43 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:08,529 THIS, A VERY NORMAL LIFE. 44 00:02:08,529 --> 00:02:09,530 >> I'M DAVE. 45 00:02:09,530 --> 00:02:10,764 I'M PATTY'S HUSBAND. 46 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:14,602 WE'VE BEEN MARRIED SINCE 1987. 47 00:02:14,602 --> 00:02:16,770 WELL, I THINK IT'S -- IN THIS 48 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:18,772 CASE, PATTY'S HOARDING IS 49 00:02:18,772 --> 00:02:20,608 DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE 50 00:02:20,608 --> 00:02:21,542 SHOPPING. 51 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:22,776 >> UH-HUH, I'M SEEING A 52 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:23,777 CLEARANCE TAG! 53 00:02:23,777 --> 00:02:25,313 >> SHE LIKES TO SHOP. 54 00:02:25,313 --> 00:02:26,280 >> AHA, PET EGG. 55 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,781 THREE CARTRIDGES. 56 00:02:27,781 --> 00:02:30,551 FIVE-IN-ONE MAGNETIC TRAVEL GAME 57 00:02:30,551 --> 00:02:30,918 SET. 58 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:32,653 I'M SEEING GIFT SETS. 59 00:02:32,653 --> 00:02:34,788 I'M KIND OF A SUCKER FOR GIFT 60 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:35,656 SETS. 61 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:37,358 >> WELL, A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT 62 00:02:37,358 --> 00:02:39,527 SHE PURCHASES, OR HAS PURCHASED 63 00:02:39,527 --> 00:02:41,195 OVER TIME, IS STILL IN THE BAG 64 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,763 THAT SHE BROUGHT IT HOME IN, 65 00:02:42,763 --> 00:02:44,298 STILL GOT THE TAGS ON IT. 66 00:02:44,298 --> 00:02:46,267 NEW ITEMS, NEVER BEEN USED -- 67 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:48,236 PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 68 00:02:48,236 --> 00:02:49,937 MOST ASSUREDLY, THOUSANDS OF 69 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:54,675 DOLLARS' WORTH OF STUFF. 70 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:56,844 >> I DO HAVE IDEAS AS TO WHAT 71 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:58,812 BROUGHT ME TO THIS POINT. 72 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:00,814 PROBABLY ISSUES WITHIN MY 73 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:01,782 MARRIAGE. 74 00:03:01,782 --> 00:03:03,384 >> IT WEARS ON YOU, BECAUSE IT 75 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:04,818 TENDS TO GET IN YOUR HEAD AND 76 00:03:04,818 --> 00:03:06,554 YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME 77 00:03:06,554 --> 00:03:07,988 AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT 78 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:09,723 ON THE KIDS. 79 00:03:09,723 --> 00:03:11,325 >> IT'S GOTTEN WHERE IT'S SO 80 00:03:11,325 --> 00:03:12,626 OVERWHELMING THAT IT'S 81 00:03:12,626 --> 00:03:13,961 DIFFICULT, AND THE DEEPER IT'S 82 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:15,596 GOTTEN THE MORE DIFFICULT IT'S 83 00:03:15,596 --> 00:03:17,298 BECOME, ESPECIALLY AS FAR AS THE 84 00:03:17,298 --> 00:03:18,566 KIDS ARE CONCERNED. 85 00:03:18,566 --> 00:03:19,900 THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FRIENDS 86 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:20,601 OVER. 87 00:03:20,601 --> 00:03:21,969 THEY GO OVER TO FRIENDS' HOUSES, 88 00:03:21,969 --> 00:03:25,306 AND THEY CAN'T RECIPROCATE. 89 00:03:25,306 --> 00:03:27,408 AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR THEM, 90 00:03:27,408 --> 00:03:29,243 AND IT HURTS THEM AND ME. 91 00:03:29,243 --> 00:03:31,379 AND I HATE IT. 92 00:03:31,379 --> 00:03:33,247 IT'S A DIRTY, LITTLE SECRET 93 00:03:33,247 --> 00:03:37,251 WHICH I'M ASHAMED OF. 94 00:03:45,359 --> 00:03:47,328 WHEN THE KIDS WERE TAKEN, I WAS 95 00:03:47,328 --> 00:03:48,596 IN SHOCK. 96 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:50,864 MY DAUGHTER AND I WERE OUT 97 00:03:50,864 --> 00:03:53,734 RUNNING AN ERRAND, AND DAVE AND 98 00:03:53,734 --> 00:03:54,868 MY SON WERE HOME. 99 00:03:54,868 --> 00:03:56,604 >> HE STARTED TOWARDS THE DOOR 100 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:58,439 AND CAME AND GOT ME AND SAID, 101 00:03:58,439 --> 00:03:59,873 "DAD, THERE'S POLICE AT THE 102 00:03:59,873 --> 00:04:00,374 DOOR." 103 00:04:00,374 --> 00:04:03,377 AND I THOUGHT, "OKAY." 104 00:04:03,377 --> 00:04:06,447 SO, I WENT DOWN AND OPENED THE 105 00:04:06,447 --> 00:04:09,450 DOOR, AND I KNEW IMMEDIATELY WHY 106 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:10,984 THEY WERE THERE. 107 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:13,721 IT JUST -- I KNEW. 108 00:04:13,721 --> 00:04:16,390 >> I GUESS SOMEONE HAD CALLED IN 109 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:17,725 ABOUT MY HOME. 110 00:04:17,725 --> 00:04:19,793 I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHO. 111 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,363 AND THEY CAME WITH CAMERAS IN 112 00:04:22,363 --> 00:04:25,366 HAND AND INSPECTED THE HOUSE. 113 00:04:25,366 --> 00:04:26,634 >> THEY WALKED THROUGH THE 114 00:04:26,634 --> 00:04:29,770 HOUSE, AND THEY BASICALLY STATED 115 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:33,374 THAT THE KIDS NEEDED TO GO 116 00:04:33,374 --> 00:04:38,379 SOMEWHERE ELSE. 117 00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:41,482 >> IT WAS THE WORST MOMENT OF MY 118 00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:42,383 LIFE. 119 00:04:42,383 --> 00:04:45,419 UNDOUBTEDLY THE WORST MOMENT OF 120 00:04:45,419 --> 00:04:47,655 MY LIFE, WHEN THE POLICE PARADE 121 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:49,790 UP YOUR STREET AND TELL YOU YOUR 122 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:52,326 KIDS HAVE TO LEAVE. 123 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:04,405 >> I DON'T THINK PATTY OR I, 124 00:05:04,405 --> 00:05:06,740 EITHER ONE, HAD ANY IDEA OF HOW 125 00:05:06,740 --> 00:05:08,876 WE WERE GONNA GET OUT OF THIS 126 00:05:08,876 --> 00:05:09,877 SITUATION. 127 00:05:09,877 --> 00:05:11,412 >> AND THEN I WAS IN DESPAIR AND 128 00:05:11,412 --> 00:05:11,979 SHOCK. 129 00:05:11,979 --> 00:05:13,481 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GONNA 130 00:05:13,481 --> 00:05:14,382 HAPPEN. 131 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:27,828 >> MY NAME IS BILL SQUIBB. 132 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:32,966 I'M 66 AND SEMI-RETIRED. 133 00:05:32,966 --> 00:05:35,135 I'VE BEEN ACQUIRING THINGS 134 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:37,438 PROBABLY AS LONG AS I CAN 135 00:05:37,438 --> 00:05:39,373 REMEMBER, AT LEAST IN MY 136 00:05:39,373 --> 00:05:40,408 ADULTHOOD. 137 00:05:40,408 --> 00:05:43,511 IT MUST GO BACK 30 YEARS. 138 00:05:43,511 --> 00:05:45,813 MY ACQUIRING PROBABLY STEMS 139 00:05:45,813 --> 00:05:47,981 AROUND RENOVATION MATERIALS, 140 00:05:47,981 --> 00:05:50,518 TOOLS, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS. 141 00:05:50,518 --> 00:05:53,887 LIKEWISE, I COLLECT MAGAZINES, 142 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:57,491 BOOKS, HOW-TO MAGAZINES OR BOOKS 143 00:05:57,491 --> 00:05:59,760 ON BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION. 144 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,496 KIND OF A HANDYMAN, DOING 145 00:06:02,496 --> 00:06:04,164 RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS. 146 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:08,469 [ SAW WHIRRING ] 147 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:10,471 I DON'T THINK OTHER PEOPLE 148 00:06:10,471 --> 00:06:12,406 UNDERSTAND THE COMPULSION OF 149 00:06:12,406 --> 00:06:15,075 HOARDING OR A HOARDER. 150 00:06:15,075 --> 00:06:16,510 I'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 151 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,412 TERMS -- THE PACK RAT, 152 00:06:18,412 --> 00:06:19,179 COLLECTOR. 153 00:06:19,179 --> 00:06:21,148 THERE ARE THINGS THAT I JUST 154 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:22,883 WANT TO KEEP AND CAN'T THROW 155 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,752 OUT, AND I CAN'T REALLY EXPLAIN 156 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:26,053 WHY. 157 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:27,488 I DON'T KNOW THAT I FULLY 158 00:06:27,488 --> 00:06:28,889 UNDERSTAND IT. 159 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:31,759 I HAVE A DISORDER, AND IT'S... 160 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:33,494 HOARDING. 161 00:06:33,494 --> 00:06:35,062 >> THOSE MAY SAY THEY'RE MEDIUM 162 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:36,897 CHILIES, BUT THEY ARE "BLOW YOUR 163 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:38,499 HEAD OFF" CHILI. 164 00:06:38,499 --> 00:06:39,066 >> OH? 165 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:41,469 >> MY NAME IS LORELEI AZARIAN. 166 00:06:41,469 --> 00:06:43,170 I'M 57. 167 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:46,173 AND I'VE BEEN PARTNERS WITH BILL 168 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:48,876 FOR 25, MAYBE 26 YEARS. 169 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:50,043 THIS WILL BE READY IN 170 00:06:50,043 --> 00:06:50,811 20 MINUTES. 171 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:52,513 CAN YOU TACKLE THAT AND FIND A 172 00:06:52,513 --> 00:06:55,048 PLACE FOR YOUR EGG CARTONS? 173 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:55,282 >> OKAY. 174 00:06:55,282 --> 00:06:56,183 >> THANK YOU. 175 00:06:56,183 --> 00:06:58,085 >> THE LEVEL OF DISARRAY THAT 176 00:06:58,085 --> 00:06:59,887 BILL SEEMS TO EITHER ENJOY OR 177 00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:03,056 SUCCUMB TO IS CRAZY-MAKING FOR 178 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,925 ME. 179 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:06,894 I'M TIRED OF BEING LUMPED IN 180 00:07:06,894 --> 00:07:07,895 WITH THINGS. 181 00:07:07,895 --> 00:07:09,830 I'M TIRED OF LIVING IN A HOME 182 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:12,165 WHERE I CAN'T INVITE FRIENDS IN 183 00:07:12,165 --> 00:07:14,034 BECAUSE I'M MORTIFIED. 184 00:07:14,034 --> 00:07:17,170 WE HAVE NO SOCIAL LIFE. 185 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:19,139 WE CAN'T RECIPROCATE AN 186 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:20,908 INVITATION TO DINNER. 187 00:07:20,908 --> 00:07:23,243 WE ALWAYS MAKE EXCUSES, BUT THE 188 00:07:23,243 --> 00:07:24,978 EXCUSES HAVE TO END. 189 00:07:24,978 --> 00:07:26,480 IT'S TIME. 190 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:36,223 >> THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE HOUSE 191 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:38,826 IS DIMINISHING THE SPACE THAT WE 192 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:40,661 HAVE AVAILABLE, AND IT'S 193 00:07:40,661 --> 00:07:43,130 CLUTTER, I'M SURE, TO MOST 194 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:45,232 PEOPLE, EVERYWHERE. 195 00:07:45,232 --> 00:07:47,668 >> BILL'S "STUFF," AS WE 196 00:07:47,668 --> 00:07:49,136 LOVINGLY CALL IT. 197 00:07:49,136 --> 00:07:51,171 IT'S LIKE A SAILOR IN THE SEA -- 198 00:07:51,171 --> 00:07:52,906 IT'S BILL AND HIS STUFF. 199 00:07:52,906 --> 00:07:54,842 AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING YOU CAN 200 00:07:54,842 --> 00:07:56,610 COMPETE WITH BECAUSE IT'S SO 201 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:57,911 PRECIOUS TO HIM. 202 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:00,013 WHEN I LOOK AT THE STUFF IN THIS 203 00:08:00,013 --> 00:08:01,248 HOUSE, I HATE IT. 204 00:08:01,248 --> 00:08:02,683 I TRULY HATE IT. 205 00:08:02,683 --> 00:08:04,618 >> THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE 206 00:08:04,618 --> 00:08:06,620 AND THE DISORDER CAUSES STRESS 207 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:08,522 ALL AROUND, STRESS IN OUR 208 00:08:08,522 --> 00:08:10,123 RELATIONSHIP, STRESS IN OUR 209 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:13,661 DAUGHTER AND OUR RELATIONSHIP. 210 00:08:13,661 --> 00:08:15,295 >> AND BE CAREFUL. IT'S HOT. 211 00:08:15,295 --> 00:08:16,263 >> THANK YOU. 212 00:08:16,263 --> 00:08:17,598 >> OKAY, SWEETIE. 213 00:08:17,598 --> 00:08:20,000 >> MY NAME'S AMELIA SQUIBB, AND 214 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,935 BILL SQUIBB IS MY FATHER. 215 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:24,538 MOST DIFFICULT THING ABOUT 216 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:26,640 LIVING WITH HIM IS THE FEELING 217 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,208 OF NOT HAVING A REAL HOUSE. 218 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:29,677 WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I DIDN'T 219 00:08:29,677 --> 00:08:31,545 REALLY REALIZE -- I KNEW THAT, 220 00:08:31,545 --> 00:08:33,046 LIKE, MY HOUSE WASN'T CLEAN OR 221 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:34,648 IT WASN'T NORMAL, I GUESS, WITH 222 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:36,116 NORMAL SETTING AND STUFF. 223 00:08:36,116 --> 00:08:37,684 BUT I USED TO STAY AT FRIENDS' 224 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:39,587 HOUSES A LOT, I NOTICED, WHEN I 225 00:08:39,587 --> 00:08:40,988 WAS YOUNGER. 226 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:43,691 I'M NOT COMFORTABLE IN MY HOUSE. 227 00:08:43,691 --> 00:08:45,559 >> AMELIA PROBABLY SPENDS MOST 228 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,127 OF HER TIME IN HER ROOM. 229 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:50,130 >> MY ROOM IS DIFFERENT THAN THE 230 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:52,032 REST OF THE HOUSE. 231 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:53,300 >> I'D SAY IT'S A CLEAN, 232 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:55,235 ORGANIZED ENVIRONMENT, NOT A 233 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:57,070 CLUTTERED ENVIRONMENT AS THE 234 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:58,572 REST OF THE HOUSE IS. 235 00:08:58,572 --> 00:08:59,973 >> I KIND OF HAVE MY SANCTUARY 236 00:08:59,973 --> 00:09:01,241 OF MY BEDROOM THAT I WALK 237 00:09:01,241 --> 00:09:02,042 DIRECTLY TO. 238 00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:03,343 I THINK BY ME HAVING MY ROOM THE 239 00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:05,112 WAY IT IS, I THINK HE THINKS 240 00:09:05,112 --> 00:09:06,647 THAT'S OKAY AND THAT'S ENOUGH. 241 00:09:06,647 --> 00:09:08,148 I FEEL LIKE HE'S LIKE, "ALL 242 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:09,282 RIGHT, SHE'S CONTENT. 243 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:10,283 SHE HAS THAT ROOM." 244 00:09:10,283 --> 00:09:11,351 WHICH, OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT 245 00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:13,120 CONTENT WITH JUST MY BEDROOM. 246 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,187 THAT MAKES NO SENSE. 247 00:09:14,187 --> 00:09:15,589 I DON'T ACTUALLY GO INTO THE 248 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:17,057 REST OF MY HOUSE UNLESS I'M 249 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:18,291 GOING TO DO LAUNDRY, 'CAUSE I 250 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,093 HATE WALKING THROUGH OUR HOUSE. 251 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:21,194 I HATE SEEING THINGS. 252 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:21,762 I HATE IT. 253 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,597 IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME TO JUST 254 00:09:23,597 --> 00:09:25,065 WALK UPSTAIRS AND SAY SOMETHING 255 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:26,133 TO SOMEONE UPSTAIRS. 256 00:09:26,133 --> 00:09:27,300 AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO 257 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:28,769 DEAL WITH. 258 00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:30,638 >> I DON'T THINK I REALLY 259 00:09:30,638 --> 00:09:33,641 FOCUSED ON THE IMPACT IT WAS 260 00:09:33,641 --> 00:09:36,309 HAVING ON ME AND MY FAMILY. 261 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:38,278 LORELEI RECENTLY, THIS PAST 262 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:40,681 YEAR, FELL, INJURING HERSELF 263 00:09:40,681 --> 00:09:41,615 SEVERELY. 264 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:43,283 >> NOT REALIZING THAT BILL HAD 265 00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:44,985 MOVED ONE OF THE BOXES AT THE 266 00:09:44,985 --> 00:09:46,386 FOOT OF THE STAIRWAY, I ENDED UP 267 00:09:46,386 --> 00:09:47,721 HAVING AN ACCIDENT. 268 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:50,390 >> SHE FELL DOWN THE STAIRS, 269 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:53,293 BROKE HER ARM. 270 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:55,195 >> AND I WAS REALLY ANGRY WITH 271 00:09:55,195 --> 00:09:55,696 BILL. 272 00:09:55,696 --> 00:09:57,364 AND TO THIS DAY, AND IT'S NINE 273 00:09:57,364 --> 00:09:59,299 MONTHS LATER, THOSE BOXES STILL 274 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:01,401 AREN'T MOVED OFF THE STAIRWAY. 275 00:10:01,401 --> 00:10:03,370 I CAN'T LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT 276 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:06,707 WHERE STUFF COMES BEFORE PEOPLE. 277 00:10:06,707 --> 00:10:09,710 HE'S GONNA HAVE TO MOVE. 278 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,345 I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. 279 00:10:21,421 --> 00:10:23,123 >> WELL, AFTER THE KIDS WERE 280 00:10:23,123 --> 00:10:25,759 REMOVED, PATTY DID TRY. 281 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:28,996 SHE TRIED TO START IN AND CLEAN 282 00:10:28,996 --> 00:10:30,197 THINGS UP. 283 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:32,399 SHE GOT NOWHERE WITH IT. 284 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:35,402 I MEAN, SHE WAS ACTUALLY TRYING, 285 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:37,738 BUT SHE COULDN'T DO IT. 286 00:10:37,738 --> 00:10:39,673 SHE JUST COULD NOT DO IT. 287 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:56,757 SOMETHING HAD TO GIVE SOONER OR 288 00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:57,357 LATER. 289 00:10:57,357 --> 00:10:59,292 I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE PROBABLY 290 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:01,261 HEADED TOWARDS DIVORCE BECAUSE 291 00:11:01,261 --> 00:11:03,163 THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY 292 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:04,431 THAT I WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO 293 00:11:04,431 --> 00:11:07,134 RETAIN CUSTODY OF THE KIDS, 294 00:11:07,134 --> 00:11:09,402 VERSUS BOTH OF US LOSING 295 00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:10,437 CUSTODY. 296 00:11:10,437 --> 00:11:12,139 >> I KNEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM 297 00:11:12,139 --> 00:11:13,306 BEFORE THEN, BUT I THINK THAT 298 00:11:13,306 --> 00:11:15,075 WAS THE DEFINING MOMENT AS FAR 299 00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:17,244 AS, "THIS HAS REALLY GOTTEN OUT 300 00:11:17,244 --> 00:11:18,278 OF CONTROL." 301 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:19,446 >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS THE HOUSE 302 00:11:19,446 --> 00:11:21,148 WAS GONNA HAVE TO BE CLEANED UP. 303 00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:23,717 AND PATTY WAS GONNA HAVE TO GET 304 00:11:23,717 --> 00:11:25,152 HELP. 305 00:11:25,152 --> 00:11:26,720 >> I WISH I COULD BLINK MY EYES 306 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,388 AND SNAP MY FINGERS AND MAKE IT 307 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:29,489 ALL GO AWAY. 308 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:32,125 BECAUSE IT'S SO OVERWHELMING. 309 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:34,427 IT'S SO OVERWHELMING. 310 00:11:46,807 --> 00:11:48,341 >> I'M DR. RENAE REINARDY. 311 00:11:48,341 --> 00:11:50,277 I SPECIALIZE IN WORKING WITH 312 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:52,345 PEOPLE WITH COMPULSIVE HOARDING, 313 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:54,214 OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE DISORDER, 314 00:11:54,214 --> 00:11:55,816 AND OTHER ANXIETY DISORDERS. 315 00:11:55,816 --> 00:11:56,917 >> COME ON UP. 316 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:59,119 WE'LL HEAD TO THE KITCHEN FIRST. 317 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:00,220 >> OKAY. 318 00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:03,223 >> THIS IS MY MESSY, CLUTTERED 319 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:04,257 KITCHEN. 320 00:12:04,257 --> 00:12:04,825 [ SIGHS ] 321 00:12:04,825 --> 00:12:06,526 >> I'M A COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL 322 00:12:06,526 --> 00:12:08,395 THERAPIST, WHICH MEANS THAT I 323 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:10,263 MOSTLY TEACH PEOPLE SKILLS THAT 324 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:11,932 THEY NEED TO LEARN IN ORDER TO 325 00:12:11,932 --> 00:12:13,834 GET CONTROL OVER THEIR SYMPTOMS. 326 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:15,468 ARE YOU ABLE TO COOK? 327 00:12:15,468 --> 00:12:17,404 >> YEAH, YEAH, I JUST MOVE THE 328 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:19,539 STUFF OFF AND MOVE IT AROUND. 329 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,809 YEAH, I KNOW THIS IS NOT IDEAL 330 00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:22,375 AT ALL. 331 00:12:22,375 --> 00:12:24,311 I MEAN, DEFINITELY NOT. 332 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:25,378 >> WELL, AND IT'S -- 333 00:12:25,378 --> 00:12:26,880 >> THE WHOLE HOUSE ISN'T IDEAL. 334 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,215 >> WELL, WE WORK AT IT. 335 00:12:28,215 --> 00:12:29,382 AND THEN YOU SAID THIS IS YOUR 336 00:12:29,382 --> 00:12:30,283 DAUGHTER'S ROOM HERE? 337 00:12:30,283 --> 00:12:30,517 >> YEAH. 338 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:31,885 >> OKAY, SO, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT 339 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:33,553 OF TOYS AND CLOTHES, MOSTLY. 340 00:12:33,553 --> 00:12:35,422 >> NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD A 341 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,324 WAY TO HER BED, BUT I'VE JUST 342 00:12:37,324 --> 00:12:38,926 KIND OF BEEN TOSSING STUFF IN 343 00:12:38,926 --> 00:12:40,527 THERE, TRYING TO GET RID OF IT 344 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,461 ELSEWHERE. 345 00:12:41,461 --> 00:12:42,863 >> AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING 346 00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:44,364 THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK A LOT ON 347 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:45,365 THIS WEEKEND, RIGHT? 348 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:47,300 SO, HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT 349 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:49,269 GETTING HELP FROM OTHER PEOPLE 350 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:51,371 AND HAVING SOME OF THE CREW COME 351 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:52,272 IN AND -- 352 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:53,240 >> RELIEVED. 353 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,874 >> YEAH. 354 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:55,308 >> VERY RELIEVED. 355 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,410 A CREW'S GONNA BE COMING IN TO 356 00:12:57,410 --> 00:13:00,280 SORT AND ORGANIZE. 357 00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:12,993 >> I'M DOROTHY BREININGER. 358 00:13:12,993 --> 00:13:15,328 I AM NOT A THERAPIST, BUT I'VE 359 00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:17,330 BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 10 360 00:13:17,330 --> 00:13:19,332 YEARS AND REALLY RELATE TO THE 361 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:20,367 CLIENTS. 362 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:21,601 OKAY, AND SO I'D LIKE TO TELL 363 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:23,303 YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS 364 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:24,437 IS -- A HOARDING JOB. 365 00:13:24,437 --> 00:13:25,973 THAT MEANS WE HAVE A LOT OF 366 00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:26,373 STUFF. 367 00:13:26,373 --> 00:13:28,208 >> I'M FEELING A LITTLE ANXIOUS 368 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:29,609 THINKING OF ALL THE THINGS THAT 369 00:13:29,609 --> 00:13:31,311 I SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH TO 370 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:33,446 MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, MY PICTURES 371 00:13:33,446 --> 00:13:35,615 AND MY SENTIMENTAL ITEMS DON'T 372 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:36,316 GET LOST. 373 00:13:36,316 --> 00:13:37,951 >> UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE IN THE 374 00:13:37,951 --> 00:13:39,519 BASEMENT OR IN THE GARAGE, WE'LL 375 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,288 HAVE SOME CRITTER DROPPINGS, 376 00:13:41,288 --> 00:13:42,422 MAYBE. 377 00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:45,993 WE'RE AT, UNFORTUNATELY, FECES, 378 00:13:45,993 --> 00:13:47,594 DROPPINGS, ALL SORTS OF CRITTER 379 00:13:47,594 --> 00:13:48,361 DROPPINGS. 380 00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:50,230 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FACING WHAT 381 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:51,398 COULD BE THE HANTAVIRUS. 382 00:13:51,398 --> 00:13:53,000 WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO IS 383 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,401 PROTECT OURSELVES IN CASE. 384 00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:56,436 THAT'S WHY WE'RE HANDING OUT THE 385 00:13:56,436 --> 00:13:56,937 MASKS. 386 00:13:56,937 --> 00:13:58,338 'CAUSE WE START, YOU KNOW, 387 00:13:58,338 --> 00:13:59,639 MOVING THINGS AROUND, THE DUST 388 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,341 COMES UP, AND WE WANT TO REALLY 389 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:02,943 TAKE CARE OF OUR RESPIRATORY 390 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:05,345 SYSTEM. 391 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:07,347 >> IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT 392 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:08,982 PEOPLE WANT, BY ANY MEANS, 393 00:14:08,982 --> 00:14:11,051 BECAUSE IT'S VERY EMBARRASSING, 394 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:12,953 AND IT'S VERY HUMILIATING. 395 00:14:25,465 --> 00:14:27,600 >> IF I WOKE UP TOMORROW AND 396 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,903 EVERYTHING WAS GONE, I WOULD 397 00:14:29,903 --> 00:14:31,371 PROBABLY FREAK OUT. 398 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,974 >> I REFUSE TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS 399 00:14:33,974 --> 00:14:35,408 NORMAL ANYMORE. 400 00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:37,377 I CAN LIVE WITH BILL, BUT I 401 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:39,479 CAN'T LIVE WITH THE STUFF. 402 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:42,049 AND IF IT DOESN'T GET SEPARATED, 403 00:14:42,049 --> 00:14:44,384 THEN I'VE GOT NO CHOICE -- HE'S 404 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:46,419 GONNA HAVE TO MOVE. 405 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,534 >> HI, BILL? DAVID TOLIN. 406 00:15:01,534 --> 00:15:02,402 HOW ARE YOU? 407 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:03,370 >> MY PLEASURE. 408 00:15:03,370 --> 00:15:04,537 >> NICE TO MEET YOU. 409 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,039 >> LIKEWISE. PLEASE COME IN. 410 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:07,107 >> WELL, THANKS. 411 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:08,541 I'M DR. DAVID TOLIN. 412 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:10,277 I'M DIRECTOR OF THE ANXIETY 413 00:15:10,277 --> 00:15:11,478 DISORDERS CENTER AT THE 414 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:12,946 INSTITUTE OF LIVING. 415 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:15,582 WELL, SO, BILL, SHOW ME WHAT'S 416 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:16,583 IN HERE. 417 00:15:16,583 --> 00:15:18,385 >> WELL, THIS WAS TWO ROOMS. 418 00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:19,953 IT'S NOW ONE LONG ROOM. 419 00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:21,654 AND OUR MUSIC/PLANT ROOM, SO TO 420 00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:23,590 SPEAK, ON THIS END, AND THIS IS 421 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:24,624 THE DINING ROOM. 422 00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:26,559 >> IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WHOLE 423 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:28,495 LOT OF MUSIC AND DINING IS GOING 424 00:15:28,495 --> 00:15:29,396 ON HERE. 425 00:15:29,396 --> 00:15:31,064 >> VERY LITTLE AT THE MOMENT. 426 00:15:31,064 --> 00:15:31,598 >> OKAY. 427 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:33,600 MY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS 428 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,502 GOING TO BE TO TRY TO GET TO 429 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,570 KNOW BILL AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND 430 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,539 WHY HE'S SAVING THESE THINGS. 431 00:15:39,539 --> 00:15:41,541 >> THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS 432 00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:43,010 PRETTY MUCH A LIBRARY. 433 00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:44,978 IT'S MOSTLY -- IT'S ALL BOOKS 434 00:15:44,978 --> 00:15:46,079 AND MAGAZINES. 435 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:48,081 >> OKAY, EXCESSIVE, YOU THINK, 436 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:49,482 OR JUST RIGHT? 437 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,451 >> TO ME, JUST RIGHT. 438 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,753 MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF MY 439 00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:55,755 HOARDING, IS INFORMATION 440 00:15:55,755 --> 00:15:56,656 HOARDING. 441 00:15:56,656 --> 00:15:57,991 >> JUST KIND OF LOOKING, A 442 00:15:57,991 --> 00:16:00,493 COUPLE THINGS CAUGHT MY EYE. 443 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:03,130 I SEE A "BEST BUYS FOR YOUR 444 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:07,067 HOME" FOR 2002 AND A TAX GUIDE 445 00:16:07,067 --> 00:16:08,735 FOR 1988. 446 00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:10,437 DO YOU THINK MAYBE YOU'RE 447 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:11,704 HANGING ON TO THINGS THAT ARE 448 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:13,406 NOT GONNA BE THAT HELPFUL FOR 449 00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:14,541 YOU? 450 00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:17,044 >> UH, A LITTLE OUT OF DATE IN 451 00:16:17,044 --> 00:16:18,511 SOME CASES, YEAH. 452 00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:20,613 I'M NERVOUS, A LITTLE SCARED. 453 00:16:20,613 --> 00:16:23,050 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ENTIRE 454 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:25,385 PROCESS IS, SO THERE'S THAT, I 455 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:27,020 GUESS, FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN. 456 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:39,432 >> BILL, THIS IS CALLED A 457 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:40,567 NON-SHOPPING TRIP. 458 00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:41,734 >> NON-SHOPPING. 459 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:43,503 >> NON-SHOPPING TRIP. 460 00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:45,505 RIGHT NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS 461 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:47,207 THAT BILL IS GOING OUT AND 462 00:16:47,207 --> 00:16:49,176 BRINGING EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF 463 00:16:49,176 --> 00:16:50,610 THINGS INTO THE HOME. 464 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:52,645 SO THE FIRST PIECE IS TO STOP 465 00:16:52,645 --> 00:16:54,547 WHAT'S COMING IN SO THAT AT 466 00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:58,551 LEAST WE CAN CONTROL THE DAMAGE. 467 00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,753 >> MY TENDENCY IS TO GET LOST IN 468 00:17:00,753 --> 00:17:02,522 HOME IMPROVEMENTS OR 469 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:04,523 LUMBERYARDS, PARTICULARLY IF 470 00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:06,126 THERE'S THINGS ON SALE. 471 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,127 >> WHAT DID YOU FIND? 472 00:17:07,127 --> 00:17:08,428 >> THEY GOT SOME NEW DISPLAYS ON 473 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:09,462 KITCHEN CABINETS. 474 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:10,130 >> YEAH? 475 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:11,631 >> WHEN I SEE THINGS THAT ARE 476 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:13,165 GREAT BUYS, IT'S ALMOST 477 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:14,134 IRRESISTIBLE. 478 00:17:14,134 --> 00:17:15,768 IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST A 479 00:17:15,768 --> 00:17:16,569 COMPULSION. 480 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,405 THAT WOULD JUMP AT ME AS OF 481 00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:19,406 INTEREST. 482 00:17:19,406 --> 00:17:20,406 >> THIS ONE. 483 00:17:20,406 --> 00:17:21,108 >> YES. 484 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:23,109 IF THERE ARE SALES OR SOMETHING 485 00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:25,112 THAT I'M REALLY GETTING A BUY 486 00:17:25,112 --> 00:17:26,813 ON, IT'S LIKE A MAGNET, AND I 487 00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:29,116 BOUGHT KITCHENS, A WHOLE ARRAY 488 00:17:29,116 --> 00:17:31,118 OF CABINETS FOR AN APARTMENT I 489 00:17:31,118 --> 00:17:32,219 WAS GOING TO RENOVATE. 490 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:33,653 AND WE WOULD HAVE RENTED IF IT 491 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:35,422 WASN'T FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S 492 00:17:35,422 --> 00:17:37,190 FULL OF MY STUFF. 493 00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:48,568 >> THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE 494 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:50,670 COULD BE BRINGING IN RENTAL 495 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:53,173 INCOME OF PROBABLY $4,000 A 496 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:53,806 MONTH. 497 00:17:53,806 --> 00:17:56,576 BUT THOSE APARTMENTS HAVE NOT 498 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,745 BEEN RENTED FOR YEARS, FOR AS 499 00:17:58,745 --> 00:18:00,813 LONG AS I'VE KNOWN BILL. 500 00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:03,283 SO IT IS A HUGE MONETARY COST TO 501 00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:03,650 US. 502 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:05,485 >> DEFINING YOURSELF AS A 503 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,587 HANDYMAN IS FINE IF THE REASON 504 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,622 YOU DO IT IS THAT YOU ACTUALLY 505 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:11,724 ARE BUILDING AND FIXING THINGS. 506 00:18:11,724 --> 00:18:13,726 ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU'RE 507 00:18:13,726 --> 00:18:15,828 DERIVING THAT SENSE OF IDENTITY 508 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,864 BECAUSE OF THE THINGS YOU OWN, 509 00:18:17,864 --> 00:18:19,832 THEN ALL THAT'S REALLY DOING IS 510 00:18:19,832 --> 00:18:21,601 FOOLING YOURSELF AND GIVING 511 00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:23,303 YOURSELF MORE AND MORE REASONS 512 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:25,472 TO LET THINGS PILE UP AND LET 513 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:26,873 YOUR ACTUAL QUALITY OF LIFE 514 00:18:26,873 --> 00:18:28,208 DETERIORATE. 515 00:18:28,208 --> 00:18:29,876 DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT THIS 516 00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:31,878 POSES ANY KIND OF A HAZARD? 517 00:18:31,878 --> 00:18:32,845 >> IT DOES. 518 00:18:32,845 --> 00:18:33,780 >> IT DOES? 519 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,282 >> LORELEI GOT INJURED BECAUSE 520 00:18:35,282 --> 00:18:36,883 OF COMING DOWN THE STAIRS IN THE 521 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:37,617 NIGHT. 522 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,619 SHE FELL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 523 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:41,288 STAIRS AND BROKE HER ARM. 524 00:18:41,288 --> 00:18:43,290 >> SO AFTER SHE BROKE HER ARM, 525 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:45,292 DID YOU CLEAR OFF THE STAIRS? 526 00:18:45,292 --> 00:18:47,727 >> UH, NO, NOT REALLY. 527 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,629 UH, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 528 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:51,731 I HATE TO SAY THAT IT TOOK 529 00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:54,234 SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO OCCUR TO 530 00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:56,303 MAKE ME WANT TO FOCUS AND GET 531 00:18:56,303 --> 00:18:58,771 THE HOUSE PICKED UP AND CLEANED 532 00:18:58,771 --> 00:18:59,539 UP. 533 00:18:59,539 --> 00:19:00,507 WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT 534 00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:01,641 THIS. 535 00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:03,310 IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EASY 536 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:04,244 PROCESS. 537 00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:05,845 I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE. 538 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,514 IT'S GONNA BE A VERY DIFFICULT 539 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:08,248 PROCESS. 540 00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:14,787 >> OKAY. YEAH. 541 00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:15,922 OH, BABY. 542 00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:17,657 SO YOU'RE JUST SEPARATING BAGS 543 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:18,358 AND BOXES. 544 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,227 THAT'S IT FOR NOW. 545 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,670 YEAH, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, 546 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,940 BUT PART OF ME IS RELIEVED THAT 547 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:35,342 THIS IS GETTING DONE. 548 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:37,377 ANOTHER PART OF ME IS A LITTLE 549 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:39,246 ANXIOUS ABOUT THINGS POSSIBLY, 550 00:19:39,246 --> 00:19:40,847 YOU KNOW, GETTING TOSSED THAT 551 00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:41,981 ARE OF IMPORTANCE. 552 00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:45,585 BUT I WANT MY KIDS BACK, AND 553 00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:47,987 THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. 554 00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:48,955 HEY, DOROTHY? 555 00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:50,790 CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE 556 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:52,325 GOING THROUGH THE BOXES 557 00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:53,960 THOROUGHLY AND NOTHING IS LEFT 558 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,927 IN THE BOXES? 559 00:19:54,927 --> 00:19:55,595 >> OH, YES. 560 00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:56,963 THEY CAN'T FLATTEN A BOX WITHOUT 561 00:19:56,963 --> 00:19:58,298 MAKING SURE STUFF IS OUT. 562 00:19:58,298 --> 00:19:58,731 >> OKAY. 563 00:19:58,731 --> 00:19:59,999 >> BUT STILL, NOTHING'S BEING 564 00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:00,733 THROWN AWAY. 565 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:01,568 >> I KNOW THAT. 566 00:20:01,568 --> 00:20:03,370 >> YEAH. 567 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:05,338 >> I GUESS ONE THING THAT 568 00:20:05,338 --> 00:20:07,374 WORRIES ME IS THE POTENTIAL 569 00:20:07,374 --> 00:20:09,809 TRASH PILES. 570 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:11,278 LIKE THE WAGON THAT'S OVER 571 00:20:11,278 --> 00:20:11,678 THERE. 572 00:20:11,678 --> 00:20:12,579 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 573 00:20:12,579 --> 00:20:13,346 >> NOT TRASH. 574 00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:13,913 >> NOPE. 575 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:15,415 >> SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S OVER 576 00:20:15,415 --> 00:20:16,316 THERE. 577 00:20:16,316 --> 00:20:18,585 WELL, DOROTHY HAS TOLD EVERYBODY 578 00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:20,920 THAT IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO THROW 579 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,290 THINGS OUT, CATEGORIZE THINGS, 580 00:20:23,290 --> 00:20:25,258 ORGANIZE THINGS, AND IT'S 581 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:27,260 IMPORTANT TO ME. 582 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:28,395 HEY, GUYS? 583 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:31,264 ARE YOU FOR SURE NOTHING IS -- 584 00:20:31,264 --> 00:20:32,399 >> YEAH, WE SORTED THROUGH ALL 585 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:32,699 THAT STUFF. 586 00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:33,866 >> ALL THOSE BOXES ARE SORTED 587 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:34,434 THROUGH. 588 00:20:34,434 --> 00:20:35,402 >> EVERYTHING WAS EMPTIED OUT, 589 00:20:35,402 --> 00:20:36,703 AND IT'S JUST CARDBOARD BOXES. 590 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:39,372 >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 591 00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:41,341 >> WELL, UP TO THIS POINT -- AND 592 00:20:41,341 --> 00:20:42,942 I'M SURPRISED SHE AGREED TO DO 593 00:20:42,942 --> 00:20:44,711 IT IN THE FIRST PLACE -- I'M A 594 00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:46,946 LITTLE SKEPTICAL... 595 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:48,348 JUST TO SEE HOW THIS IS ALL 596 00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:49,316 GONNA HAPPEN. 597 00:20:49,316 --> 00:20:50,817 TO SEE ALL THE STUFF THAT'S COME 598 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:52,352 OUT OF THAT GARAGE, IT'S AMAZING 599 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,020 TO SEE IT ALL SCATTERED OUT ALL 600 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:55,688 OVER THE DRIVEWAY AND THE LAWN. 601 00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:57,357 WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH ALL 602 00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:58,425 THIS STUFF? 603 00:20:58,425 --> 00:21:00,393 IS PATTY GONNA LET LOOSE OF IT? 604 00:21:00,393 --> 00:21:02,061 IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 605 00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:03,363 >> KITE STRING IS GOOD. 606 00:21:03,363 --> 00:21:04,731 >> KITE STRING IS GOOD. 607 00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:05,732 >> WAGON -- KEEP. 608 00:21:05,732 --> 00:21:07,400 VALENTINE CONTAINER IS GOOD. 609 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,935 >> VALENTINE CONTAINER IS GOOD. 610 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:10,069 THIS I WANT TO KEEP. 611 00:21:10,069 --> 00:21:11,438 KEEP. KEEP THAT. KEEP. 612 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:12,772 AND THE TOASTER. 613 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:14,040 SENTIMENTAL VALUE. 614 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,641 [ LAUGHS ] 615 00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:15,908 EW, EW. 616 00:21:15,908 --> 00:21:17,009 >> AND THIS IS...? 617 00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:18,745 >> AND THAT I HAVEN'T DECIDED 618 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:19,078 YET. 619 00:21:19,078 --> 00:21:20,079 [ LAUGHS ] 620 00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:21,448 THAT'S IN THE "I'M NOT SURE" 621 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:22,415 PILE. 622 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:24,684 OH, MY GOSH. 623 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:26,686 THERE'S JUST SO MUCH STUFF. 624 00:21:26,686 --> 00:21:31,624 THERE IS SO MUCH STUFF. 625 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:48,441 >> HERE YOU GO. 626 00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:49,942 HERE YOU GO. 627 00:21:49,942 --> 00:21:55,948 >> ANYBODY NEED A SHOVEL? 628 00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:58,451 WHEN WE GET INTO A BASEMENT AND 629 00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:01,053 INTO A GARAGE, WE WIND UP, WELL, 630 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:03,089 COMING HEAD-ON WITH SOME 631 00:22:03,089 --> 00:22:07,727 CRITTERS. 632 00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:09,396 AND IN ADDITION, WE ACTUALLY 633 00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:10,863 HAVE USED SOME SHOVELS. 634 00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:12,732 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET INTO THE 635 00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:14,534 BASEMENT, THINGS KIND OF CRUMBLE 636 00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:15,502 A LITTLE BIT. 637 00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:16,869 THERE'S NO WAY TO PICK IT UP 638 00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:17,704 WITH YOUR HANDS. 639 00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:18,805 AND THAT'S DISTURBING. 640 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:20,072 IT'S DISTURBING FOR US TO HAVE 641 00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,542 TO DO IT, FOR HER TO SEE IT, AND 642 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:23,976 IT'S WHAT'S SO. 643 00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:26,078 THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. 644 00:22:26,078 --> 00:22:27,079 >> [ SOBBING ] 645 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:28,948 GOT TO ME WITH THOSE CRITTER 646 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:29,816 DROPPINGS. 647 00:22:29,816 --> 00:22:31,518 I KNOW THEY'RE THERE, BUT... 648 00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:32,819 >> MM-HMM. 649 00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:37,824 >> ...IT JUST HURTS TO HEAR. 650 00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:39,859 >> I THINK IT'S REALLY 651 00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:41,127 HUMILIATING. 652 00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:42,895 >> THERE'S NO WAY TO FIX IT. 653 00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:44,096 >> YEAH, THERE IS. 654 00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:45,465 >> NO, THERE ISN'T. 655 00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:48,000 >> EVERYTHING CAN BE FIXED. 656 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,470 AND NOTHING HAS TO BE PERFECT. 657 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:52,171 >> I WAS FEELING A LITTLE 658 00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:54,574 REVEALED -- A LOT OF REVEALED, A 659 00:22:54,574 --> 00:22:55,808 LOT OF EXPOSED. 660 00:22:55,808 --> 00:22:57,810 YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF 661 00:22:57,810 --> 00:22:59,946 MY DIRTY LITTLE SECRET FOR QUITE 662 00:22:59,946 --> 00:23:01,514 SOME TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, TO 663 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,516 KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING THIS 664 00:23:03,516 --> 00:23:06,453 AND THAT I'M HAVING TO EXPOSE 665 00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:09,422 MYSELF -- IT'S A LITTLE 666 00:23:09,422 --> 00:23:10,590 DIFFICULT. 667 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,459 MM. 668 00:23:39,018 --> 00:23:40,453 >> SO, WHERE ARE WE STARTING? 669 00:23:40,453 --> 00:23:41,588 >> DINING ROOM. 670 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:44,090 >> THE DINING/MUSIC/DUMPING 671 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:45,057 GROUND. 672 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:47,527 >> CORRECT. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE. 673 00:23:47,527 --> 00:23:48,595 >> SO, TELL ME WHAT WE HAVE 674 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:49,061 HERE. 675 00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:50,530 >> THE ENTIRE BAG THAT YOU HAVE 676 00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:51,531 IN YOUR HAND IS "KEEP." 677 00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:52,599 >> WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT 678 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,800 THAT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT 679 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,200 JUDGMENT? 680 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,934 >> ALL RIGHT. 681 00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:56,503 THIS IS A "KEEP." 682 00:23:56,503 --> 00:23:57,937 IT'S A BAG OF KEYS. 683 00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,507 THIS IS AN ELECTRICAL...TOOL. 684 00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:01,541 >> MM-HMM. 685 00:24:01,541 --> 00:24:02,509 >> I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW HOW 686 00:24:02,509 --> 00:24:03,543 THAT GOT IN THERE. 687 00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:04,176 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. 688 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:06,045 >> UH, ANOTHER ELECTRICAL 689 00:24:06,045 --> 00:24:07,079 INSTRUMENT. 690 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:08,047 BACK BRACE. 691 00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,482 SAW BLADES. 692 00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:10,483 A HAT. 693 00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:12,485 >> WHAT IS THAT? 694 00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:14,487 >> IT'S VERY BECOMING, ALSO. 695 00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:17,256 STUD FINDER. THAT'S "KEEP." 696 00:24:17,256 --> 00:24:19,091 >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION 697 00:24:19,091 --> 00:24:19,826 HERE, BILL. 698 00:24:19,826 --> 00:24:21,227 HOW MANY STUD FINDERS DO YOU 699 00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:21,661 HAVE? 700 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:22,495 >> TWO. 701 00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:22,962 >> TWO? 702 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:24,531 HOW MANY STUD FINDERS DO YOU 703 00:24:24,531 --> 00:24:25,097 NEED? 704 00:24:25,097 --> 00:24:25,965 >> TWO. 705 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,200 MY CONNECTION TO MY THINGS IS 706 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,235 MULTIFOLD. 707 00:24:29,235 --> 00:24:31,103 IT'S IF I THROW IT AWAY, I'M 708 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:33,039 GOING TO NEED IT, OR, BETTER, IF 709 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:34,907 I THROW IT AWAY, THEN I'M GONNA 710 00:24:34,907 --> 00:24:36,576 IMMEDIATELY NEED IT AS SOON AS 711 00:24:36,576 --> 00:24:37,977 I'VE THROWN IT AWAY. 712 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,178 >> THOSE USED TO BE MY MAKEUP 713 00:24:39,178 --> 00:24:39,679 CLEANERS. 714 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:40,680 >> YEAH, THEY WERE HAND 715 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,180 CLEANERS. 716 00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:42,248 I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S EVEN 717 00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:43,249 ANY IN THEM. 718 00:24:43,249 --> 00:24:44,250 YES, THERE ARE. 719 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,685 >> THOSE WERE FACE WASHERS, AND 720 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:47,019 THEY'RE DEFINITELY DRIED OUT. 721 00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:49,021 THAT'S WHY I THREW THEM AWAY. 722 00:24:49,021 --> 00:24:49,889 >> WAIT. 723 00:24:49,889 --> 00:24:51,991 AMELIA, YOU THREW THESE AWAY? 724 00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:53,259 >> YEP, IN MY GARBAGE. 725 00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,061 >> YOU THREW THEM AWAY IN THE 726 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:55,695 GARBAGE. 727 00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:57,129 >> HE GOES THROUGH MY TRASH. 728 00:24:57,129 --> 00:24:58,665 WHEN I THROW AWAY GARBAGE -- HE 729 00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:00,299 ALWAYS TAKES OUT THE GARBAGE ON 730 00:25:00,299 --> 00:25:01,701 FRIDAYS, AND HE ALWAYS GOES 731 00:25:01,701 --> 00:25:03,135 THROUGH MY GARBAGE 'CAUSE 732 00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:04,704 EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE RECYCLED. 733 00:25:04,704 --> 00:25:06,238 >> HOW DID THEY MAKE THEIR WAY 734 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:07,073 IN HERE, BILL? 735 00:25:07,073 --> 00:25:08,140 >> THEY GET RECYCLED. 736 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,609 I USE THEM TO WASH GREASE OFF MY 737 00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:10,109 HANDS. 738 00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:12,545 >> YOU WENT INTO THE GARBAGE CAN 739 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:13,279 AND GOT THEM. 740 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,081 >> NO, THERE'S A -- 741 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:16,883 >> HER BEDROOM BUCKET. 742 00:25:16,883 --> 00:25:18,618 >> YEAH, HER BEDROOM TRASH CAN. 743 00:25:18,618 --> 00:25:19,285 >> RIGHT. 744 00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:20,219 >> OKAY. 745 00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:21,888 >> I SEE A NEED TO RECYCLE 746 00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:23,289 EVERYTHING, PROBABLY TO AN 747 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:24,023 EXTREME. 748 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:25,324 >> RECYCLING'S FANTASTIC. 749 00:25:25,324 --> 00:25:27,560 HOARDING -- HOARDING IS NOT SO 750 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,194 FANTASTIC. 751 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:29,929 AND THERE'S A FINE LINE HERE, 752 00:25:29,929 --> 00:25:31,564 AND I JUST -- AS LONG AS WE CAN 753 00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:33,332 MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON THIS SIDE 754 00:25:33,332 --> 00:25:39,606 OF THAT LINE. 755 00:25:39,606 --> 00:25:41,040 >> SHOULD WE TELL THEM TO TAKE 756 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,341 THIS GAZEBO, OR IS THAT NOT A 757 00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:43,309 GOOD IDEA? 758 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:44,611 >> I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT 759 00:25:44,611 --> 00:25:45,344 THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 760 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,046 IT'S NOT -- IT'S TRULY NOT GONNA 761 00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:47,313 GET USED. 762 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:48,948 THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS 763 00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:50,216 THAT HAVE TO GET TAKEN CARE OF 764 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:50,416 FIRST. 765 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:52,284 >> MY ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE DOING 766 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:54,220 STUFF BEHIND HIS BACK, AND I'M 767 00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:56,055 KIND OF SCARED HE'S GONNA NOT 768 00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:57,089 TRUST US ANYMORE. 769 00:25:57,089 --> 00:25:57,757 >> UM... 770 00:25:57,757 --> 00:25:59,358 >> WOULD YOU GET THAT SCREEN 771 00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:01,193 ACTUALLY BACK OUT -- THE WOODEN 772 00:26:01,193 --> 00:26:01,928 ONE? 773 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:03,295 I DECIDED IT WAS GONNA GO 'CAUSE 774 00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:04,597 IT'S ALL RIPPED. 775 00:26:04,597 --> 00:26:05,197 IT'S RATTY. 776 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:06,666 AND THEN I HAD THIS HORRIBLE 777 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,300 FEELING OF MY FATHER YELLING AT 778 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,136 ME AND JUST BEING SO ANGRY AT ME 779 00:26:10,136 --> 00:26:11,103 FOR MOVING IT. 780 00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:12,672 AND I COULD JUST SEE SUCH BAD 781 00:26:12,672 --> 00:26:14,206 THINGS COMING FROM IT AND 782 00:26:14,206 --> 00:26:16,008 DECIDED TO HAVE THEM GO TAKE IT 783 00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:17,343 OUT OF THE TRUCK AND BRING IT 784 00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:18,978 BACK ONTO OUR PORCH, 785 00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:20,947 UNFORTUNATELY. 786 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,955 >> THIS IS ALL CONSTRUCTION 787 00:26:28,955 --> 00:26:29,622 SUPPLIES. 788 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:30,957 >> NO, IT'S NOT. 789 00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:31,691 >> IT'S NOT. 790 00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:34,226 >> SEEING HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO 791 00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:36,362 LET GO OF THINGS, AMELIA WAS 792 00:26:36,362 --> 00:26:38,264 GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH ME 793 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:39,265 AGAIN. 794 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:41,067 >> THAT'S FOR A PAPER-TOWEL 795 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:42,368 HOLDER FOR THE BUILDING. 796 00:26:42,368 --> 00:26:44,103 >> WHAT BUILDING? 797 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:46,005 >> WHERE WE'RE WORKING. 798 00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:46,973 >> WHY IS IT HERE? 799 00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:47,273 >> HUH? 800 00:26:47,273 --> 00:26:48,174 >> WHY IS IT HERE? 801 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:49,275 >> BECAUSE IT HASN'T GOTTEN OVER 802 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:49,541 THERE YET. 803 00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:51,343 >> WE HAVE THIS HORRIBLE PROBLEM 804 00:26:51,343 --> 00:26:52,979 OF THE TWO OF US BOTH YELL AT 805 00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:54,280 EACH OTHER NOW, LIKE, 'CAUSE WE 806 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,082 INSTANTLY GET INTO AN ARGUMENT 807 00:26:56,082 --> 00:26:57,416 THAT ESCALATES WAY TOO FAST WHEN 808 00:26:57,416 --> 00:26:59,085 WE SHOULD JUST BE TALKING. 809 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:00,286 AND IT'S THE FRUSTRATION COMING 810 00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:01,988 OUT, PURELY, AND I KNOW THAT. 811 00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:03,155 I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED 812 00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:04,290 CHALK, SO I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD 813 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:05,024 BE GONE. 814 00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:06,425 >> THAT IS ALL CONSTRUCTION 815 00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:07,393 SUPPLIES. 816 00:27:07,393 --> 00:27:08,728 >> HOW ABOUT THIS? 817 00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:10,429 >> OH, STRINGS, ALL RIGHT. 818 00:27:10,429 --> 00:27:11,363 >> AND THIS. 819 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:13,199 AND A PEANUT-BUTTER JAR OF 820 00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:14,266 CONSTRUCTION SUPPLIES? 821 00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:15,101 >> YEAH. 822 00:27:15,101 --> 00:27:16,402 IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE IN THE 823 00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:17,169 HOUSE. 824 00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:17,436 >> RIGHT. 825 00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:18,204 >> I AGREE. 826 00:27:18,204 --> 00:27:19,238 >> YOU'RE SAYING THIS HAS 827 00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:20,372 NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HOUSE. 828 00:27:20,372 --> 00:27:21,307 IT REALLY BELONGS TO ANOTHER 829 00:27:21,307 --> 00:27:22,341 APARTMENT, ANOTHER PLACE. 830 00:27:22,341 --> 00:27:23,142 >> CORRECT. 831 00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,410 >> IT'S JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE 832 00:27:24,410 --> 00:27:25,277 "LANDED" HERE. 833 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,113 BUT EVERYTHING HAPPENS TO LAND 834 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:28,280 HERE, SO IT DOES AFFECT US 835 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,115 GREATLY. 836 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:30,349 >> I GUESS I ACQUIRED FOR A 837 00:27:30,349 --> 00:27:32,318 PURPOSE, BUT TO JUST DISPOSE OF 838 00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:33,252 IT IS WASTEFUL. 839 00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:33,753 >> YES. 840 00:27:33,753 --> 00:27:36,255 HERE'S WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY. 841 00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:38,357 "I PICK UP THESE THINGS, AND I 842 00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:41,093 SAVE THESE THINGS SO THAT I CAN 843 00:27:41,093 --> 00:27:43,295 MAKE A NICE HOME FOR MY FAMILY." 844 00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:44,463 IS THAT HOW IT GOES? 845 00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:46,298 >> THAT'S A MUCH BETTER WAY OF 846 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:47,299 PHRASING IT. 847 00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:49,268 >> HOW IS THAT WORKING FOR YOU, 848 00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:49,769 BILL? 849 00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:51,337 >> I'M SCARED THAT HE'S GONNA 850 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:53,072 COMPLETELY BREAK DOWN OF IT AND 851 00:27:53,072 --> 00:27:54,206 NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. 852 00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:55,775 I HAVE A FEAR THAT HE'LL HIT A 853 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:57,309 POINT OF, "NO, NOT DOING IT. 854 00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,310 NO, I NEED THAT. 855 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:01,213 THAT CANNOT GO," AND JUST NOT 856 00:28:01,213 --> 00:28:03,249 GETTING ANY RESULTS. 857 00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:05,184 >> I CAN FEEL MY ANXIETY 858 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,386 BUILDING UP, AND I CAN FEEL 859 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:09,155 MYSELF TIGHTENING UP. 860 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:10,122 >> YEAH. 861 00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:12,258 >> WE JUST DON'T NEED TO BE 862 00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:14,493 SAVING THIS MUCH STUFF TO BEGIN 863 00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:15,427 WITH. 864 00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:17,797 WE SUFFER AS A FAMILY, AND IT 865 00:28:17,797 --> 00:28:23,135 MAKES ME ANGRY AND RESENTFUL AND 866 00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:25,137 GIVES ME LARGE FEELINGS OF 867 00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:27,139 HOPELESSNESS. 868 00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:28,374 >> BILL, WHAT'S GOING THROUGH 869 00:28:28,374 --> 00:28:29,408 YOUR MIND AS YOU'RE HEARING 870 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:30,109 THIS? 871 00:28:30,109 --> 00:28:33,245 >> DESPAIR. 872 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,481 I DON'T SEE A LIGHT AT THE END 873 00:28:35,481 --> 00:28:37,316 OF THE TUNNEL. 874 00:28:37,316 --> 00:28:38,851 I'M UPSET. 875 00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:39,819 >> YEAH. 876 00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:42,154 TELL ME ABOUT THE UPSETNESS. 877 00:28:42,154 --> 00:28:43,289 LET'S GET IT OUT THERE. 878 00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:44,523 >> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN RIGHT 879 00:28:44,523 --> 00:28:45,191 NOW. 880 00:28:45,191 --> 00:28:46,358 I THINK I JUST NEED TO TAKE A 881 00:28:46,358 --> 00:28:47,760 BREAK FROM IT, IF I MAY. 882 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,128 >> ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S FINE. 883 00:28:49,128 --> 00:28:49,395 >> RIGHT. 884 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:50,329 >> ALL RIGHT. 885 00:28:50,329 --> 00:28:51,397 >> [ SIGHS ] 886 00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:53,432 >> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT 887 00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:55,134 BILL MIGHT QUIT? 888 00:28:55,134 --> 00:28:56,202 ABSOLUTELY. 889 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:13,085 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 890 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:27,399 >> [ SIGHS ] 891 00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:29,836 THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF THE 892 00:29:29,836 --> 00:29:32,204 WHOLE PROCESS IS THE WHOLE 893 00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:33,372 PROCESS. 894 00:29:33,372 --> 00:29:35,274 WENT IN THIS MORNING SEEING HOW 895 00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:36,809 MUCH THERE WAS LEFT TO DO. 896 00:29:36,809 --> 00:29:38,377 I WAS A LITTLE DISHEARTENED, I 897 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:40,412 GUESS, BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH 898 00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:42,581 LEFT TO DO. 899 00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:43,582 >> DAVE? 900 00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:44,583 >> YEAH? 901 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,485 I WAS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED THIS 902 00:29:46,485 --> 00:29:48,354 MORNING JUST AT THE PACE OF 903 00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:48,888 THINGS. 904 00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:50,389 AND WE HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN INTO 905 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:51,958 THE MAIN LIVING AREA OF THE 906 00:29:51,958 --> 00:29:52,458 HOUSE YET. 907 00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:54,360 WHAT CONCERNS ME IS NOT ONLY 908 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,362 FINISHING THIS WEEKEND BUT, DOWN 909 00:29:56,362 --> 00:29:58,364 THE ROAD, I GUESS I DON'T EVEN 910 00:29:58,364 --> 00:30:00,432 KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE 911 00:30:00,432 --> 00:30:02,368 POINT WHERE THE KIDS ARE GONNA 912 00:30:02,368 --> 00:30:04,937 BE ALLOWED TO COME BACK HOME. 913 00:30:04,937 --> 00:30:06,906 >> WELL, THE PROGRESS IS A 914 00:30:06,906 --> 00:30:09,208 LITTLE SLOWER THAN WE EXPECT. 915 00:30:09,208 --> 00:30:10,943 IT ALWAYS GOES THAT WAY. 916 00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:13,479 WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS 917 00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:17,149 SOMEWHERE BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY. 918 00:30:23,022 --> 00:30:25,457 IT'S NOT EASY TO SEE YOUR THINGS 919 00:30:25,457 --> 00:30:27,559 BEING SHOVELED AROUND AND MOVED 920 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:28,560 INTO BOXES. 921 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,629 IT IS GOING TO STING A LITTLE 922 00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:31,463 BIT. 923 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:33,432 WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME 924 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,434 IN ORDER TO BUILD UP ALL OF 925 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,303 THESE SKILLS AND DEAL WITH 926 00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:39,438 THINGS IN A MORE CONTROLLED WAY. 927 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:42,308 >> HEY, GENE. 928 00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:43,876 >> ALL RIGHT. 929 00:30:43,876 --> 00:30:45,411 WE'RE GONNA CHITCHAT TRASH. 930 00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:48,314 >> YEAH. 931 00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:49,882 THANK YOU. 932 00:30:49,882 --> 00:30:52,284 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LETTING GO 933 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:53,219 OF THINGS. 934 00:30:53,219 --> 00:30:54,620 I DON'T KNOW IF I FORM 935 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:57,289 ATTACHMENTS TO THEM, SENTIMENTAL 936 00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:58,457 ATTACHMENTS. 937 00:30:58,457 --> 00:31:02,428 THAT IS...ACTUALLY A GOOD SHIRT. 938 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:04,030 ESPECIALLY TO SOME OF MY 939 00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,397 CHILDREN'S THINGS. 940 00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:07,333 OR I THINK, GOSH, I MIGHT HAVE 941 00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:09,001 A NEED FOR THAT LATER ON DOWN 942 00:31:09,001 --> 00:31:09,568 THE ROAD. 943 00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:11,503 A BIG SLURPEE CUP -- DO I NEED 944 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:11,971 THIS? 945 00:31:11,971 --> 00:31:14,040 >> WELL, LET ME JUST ASK YOU. 946 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,242 YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN THE HOUSE, 947 00:31:16,242 --> 00:31:18,410 AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT THERE, 948 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,479 AND YOU KNOW WE'RE DESPERATE FOR 949 00:31:20,479 --> 00:31:21,380 SPACE. 950 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,448 >> YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. 951 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:24,316 >> SO HOW WOULD YOU MAKE THE 952 00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:24,616 CHOICE? 953 00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:25,952 >> I CAN'T. 954 00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:28,454 >> ALL RIGHT. 955 00:31:28,454 --> 00:31:30,022 >> I'M FEELING REALLY STUPID, 956 00:31:30,022 --> 00:31:30,456 DOROTHY. 957 00:31:30,456 --> 00:31:31,924 >> OKAY, YOU DON'T KNOW. 958 00:31:31,924 --> 00:31:32,658 >> THAT'S STUPID. 959 00:31:32,658 --> 00:31:34,360 I'M FEELING BIG-TIME STUPID. 960 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,461 >> MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING. 961 00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:36,963 >> THAT'S -- YEAH, THAT I FEEL 962 00:31:36,963 --> 00:31:38,464 STUPID AND HUMILIATED AND REALLY 963 00:31:38,464 --> 00:31:39,465 STUPID AND HUMILIATED -- 964 00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:40,466 BRILLIANT. 965 00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:42,301 YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 966 00:31:42,301 --> 00:31:43,669 >> OKAY, SO... 967 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:45,537 >> COMING INTO THIS, I WAS 968 00:31:45,537 --> 00:31:47,339 ENVISIONING THIS WHOLE HOUSE 969 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:48,307 BEING CLEARED. 970 00:31:48,307 --> 00:31:49,976 AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL A 971 00:31:49,976 --> 00:31:51,510 LOT OF STUFF HERE, AND THAT 972 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:53,545 MAKES ME NERVOUS BECAUSE WE'RE 973 00:31:53,545 --> 00:31:55,547 RUNNING OUT OF ROOM. 974 00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:58,484 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REST OF 975 00:31:58,484 --> 00:32:00,953 THIS STUFF IS GONNA GO. 976 00:32:00,953 --> 00:32:06,392 AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. 977 00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:08,294 >> THERE WERE SOME ANXIETY 978 00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:10,362 POINTS FOR PATTY THROUGHOUT THE 979 00:32:10,362 --> 00:32:10,629 DAY. 980 00:32:10,629 --> 00:32:12,531 >> WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO GO. 981 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:14,967 >> YES, WE DO, BUT WE'RE OKAY. 982 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:16,535 >> OKAY. 983 00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:18,704 OVER IN THAT CORNER SOMEWHERE IS 984 00:32:18,704 --> 00:32:20,572 A BIG, HUGE PICTURE OF MY 985 00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:21,707 DAUGHTER, OKAY? 986 00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:23,542 >> EVEN THOUGH SHE TRUSTS US, 987 00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:25,411 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW, 988 00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:27,546 SHE'S GOT A GROOVE THAT HAS BEEN 989 00:32:27,546 --> 00:32:29,048 MANAGED ONE WAY, WHICH IS, 990 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,682 "NOBODY CAN EVER UNDERSTAND MY 991 00:32:30,682 --> 00:32:32,451 STUFF OR TREAT IT WITH THE 992 00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:34,120 RESPECT THAT I WANT THEM TO." 993 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,554 >> BE CAREFUL WITH THAT ONE, 994 00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:36,088 OKAY? 995 00:32:36,088 --> 00:32:37,556 >> BRING IT OVER. 996 00:32:37,556 --> 00:32:39,658 >> NO DIRTY FINGERS, NO NOTHING. 997 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:41,093 UNH-UNH-UNH, WATCH, WATCH. 998 00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:42,628 WATCH OUT, PLEASE. 999 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:45,397 OH, YEAH, GET HELP SO THE BOTTOM 1000 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:46,532 DOESN'T FALL OUT. 1001 00:32:46,532 --> 00:32:47,766 >> PATTY, DO YOU WANT TO BE 1002 00:32:47,766 --> 00:32:49,401 ELSEWHERE, OR ARE YOU OKAY? 1003 00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:51,537 >> OOH, OOH, THERE'S PAPERWORK 1004 00:32:51,537 --> 00:32:52,638 ON THE BACK OF IT. 1005 00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:54,040 YOU'RE DROPPING PAPERWORK. 1006 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,541 >> YOU WANT TO BE WITH US, OR 1007 00:32:55,541 --> 00:32:56,408 YOU WANT TO MOVE OUT? 1008 00:32:56,408 --> 00:32:57,476 >> I'LL BE BACK. 1009 00:32:57,476 --> 00:32:58,744 I NEED SOME MEDITATION. 1010 00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:17,729 >> WELL, IF EVER YOU NEED ONE OF 1011 00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:21,633 THOSE... 1012 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:24,703 [ GASPS ] 1013 00:33:24,703 --> 00:33:27,106 YOU NEED TO COME IN CLOSE ON 1014 00:33:27,106 --> 00:33:28,374 THIS. 1015 00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:32,611 THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF CLUTTER. 1016 00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:34,413 THERE'S AN IRONY ABOUT THIS 1017 00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:35,814 SOMEWHERE. 1018 00:33:35,814 --> 00:33:38,450 I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO 1019 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,419 BE AN EASY CHANGE FOR BILL. 1020 00:33:40,419 --> 00:33:42,688 I'M TRULY HOPING THAT CLEARING 1021 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:45,124 SOME SPACES WILL ALLOW HIM TO 1022 00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:47,526 SEE WHAT HE'S BEEN MISSING AND 1023 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,728 ALLOW HIM TO CLEAR SPACE IN HIS 1024 00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:51,530 HEAD. 1025 00:33:58,204 --> 00:33:59,471 >> IF YOU THUMB THROUGH ANY 1026 00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:00,772 GIVEN MAGAZINE, YOU'LL FIND 1027 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:02,541 SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING TO 1028 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:02,708 YOU. 1029 00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:03,542 >> THAT'S TRUE. 1030 00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:05,511 >> I GUESS THE QUESTION IS DOES 1031 00:34:05,511 --> 00:34:07,413 A MAGAZINE FROM 2001 REALLY 1032 00:34:07,413 --> 00:34:09,415 WARRANT PLACEMENT IN YOUR HOME, 1033 00:34:09,415 --> 00:34:11,683 OR COULD YOU SIMPLY TAKE THE 1034 00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:14,219 RISK AND SAY, "I CAN GET THIS 1035 00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,422 ELSEWHERE IF I NEED IT"? 1036 00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:19,425 >> UH, I CAN COMPROMISE. 1037 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:22,060 [ CHUCKLES ] 1038 00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:30,569 AMELIA'S EXPECTATIONS WERE MUCH 1039 00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:31,837 HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE 1040 00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:33,472 ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR. 1041 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:36,175 AND I KNEW, WHEN SHE CAME UP THE 1042 00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:38,577 STAIRS, THAT SHE WAS GONNA BE 1043 00:34:38,577 --> 00:34:39,578 UNHAPPY. 1044 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,712 I KNOW YOU'RE SHUDDERING. 1045 00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:41,847 >> YOU DON'T NEED THOSE. 1046 00:34:41,847 --> 00:34:43,581 >> I HAVE A COMPUTER THAT USES 1047 00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:43,849 THEM, YES. 1048 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:45,583 >> NO, PUT THEM ON A CD OR A USB 1049 00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:47,253 OR SOMETHING, ON A FLASH DRIVE. 1050 00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:48,520 YOU DO NOT NEED THAT. 1051 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,855 >> JUST LET ME LOOK AT THE BOX 1052 00:34:49,855 --> 00:34:50,722 FOR A MOMENT. 1053 00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:52,591 MY BUTTING HEADS WITH MY 1054 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,159 DAUGHTER, AMELIA, HAPPENS 1055 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:55,161 OCCASIONALLY. 1056 00:34:55,161 --> 00:34:57,163 SHE GETS QUITE FRUSTRATED. 1057 00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:58,464 >> THERE ARE MAGAZINES ON THE 1058 00:34:58,464 --> 00:34:59,565 FRICKING STAIRCASE. 1059 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:00,866 >> THEY DON'T BELONG HERE. 1060 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:02,468 >> THEY DON'T BELONG IN THE 1061 00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:02,701 HOUSE. 1062 00:35:02,701 --> 00:35:03,335 WHERE ARE YOU GONNA PUT THEM, IN 1063 00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:04,703 THE STORAGE SHED THAT YOU'RE 1064 00:35:04,703 --> 00:35:05,337 SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH, AND MOVE 1065 00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:06,905 THEM BACK OUT INTO ANOTHER 1066 00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:07,105 PLACE? 1067 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,207 >> THEN I'LL PUT THEM IN THE 1068 00:35:08,207 --> 00:35:08,740 SHOP WHEN I GET IT. 1069 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:09,875 >> I'M GONNA MOVE THEM AND MOVE 1070 00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:10,742 THEM AND MOVE THEM. 1071 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:11,877 THEY'RE GONNA BE IN A SHOP THREE 1072 00:35:11,877 --> 00:35:13,212 CITIES OVER THAT YOU'RE NEVER 1073 00:35:13,212 --> 00:35:14,880 GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO TO READ. 1074 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,215 >> SHE DOES HAVE A POINT. 1075 00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:17,549 >> IT'S SO FRUSTRATING. 1076 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:18,650 >> SHE'S FRUSTRATED BY MY NOT 1077 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:19,485 DOING IT. 1078 00:35:19,485 --> 00:35:20,486 I'M GONNA BE FRUSTRATED BY DOING 1079 00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:21,187 IT. 1080 00:35:21,187 --> 00:35:21,753 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 1081 00:35:21,753 --> 00:35:22,888 SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE FRUSTRATED 1082 00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:23,088 TODAY. 1083 00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:24,656 >> IT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME, 1084 00:35:24,656 --> 00:35:26,192 AND THAT WAS REALLY DISCOURAGING 1085 00:35:26,192 --> 00:35:27,526 TO ME, 'CAUSE JUST THE AMOUNT OF 1086 00:35:27,526 --> 00:35:28,760 STUFF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH -- 1087 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,296 IT JUST DOESN'T -- IT CAN'T ADD 1088 00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:30,762 UP RIGHT. 1089 00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:32,231 LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT'LL 1090 00:35:32,231 --> 00:35:33,299 EVER HAPPEN IF IT HAS TO 1091 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:34,500 CONTINUE AT THE PACE THAT IT'S 1092 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:34,900 GOING. 1093 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:36,502 >> YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ME TO SAY 1094 00:35:36,502 --> 00:35:37,636 "QUALITY OF LIFE" OR SOMETHING. 1095 00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:39,238 AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA 1096 00:35:39,238 --> 00:35:40,306 HELP OR ACHIEVE THAT. 1097 00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:41,307 >> YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE 1098 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:42,774 NEWSPAPERS ON THE STAIRS THAT 1099 00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:44,310 MOM IS GONNA TRIP ON AND FALL 1100 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:45,211 DOWN THE STAIRS. 1101 00:35:45,211 --> 00:35:46,312 >> THESE AREN'T NEWSPAPERS. 1102 00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:47,913 >> I REALLY FELT LIKE WE WERE 1103 00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:49,648 NEVER GONNA GET ANYWHERE WITH 1104 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:50,216 THIS. 1105 00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:51,783 EVERY BOX WAS SOMETHING ELSE HE 1106 00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:52,884 HAD TO GO THROUGH. 1107 00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:54,520 EVERY MAGAZINE WAS SOMETHING 1108 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,255 THAT HE WAS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE 1109 00:35:56,255 --> 00:35:58,924 TIME TO READ, AND HE WAS NEVER 1110 00:35:58,924 --> 00:36:00,792 GOING TO CATCH UP. 1111 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,661 >> AT WHAT POINT, BILL, DO YOU 1112 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:04,630 JUST SAY, "ENOUGH," DO YOU JUST 1113 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:05,797 SAY, "IT ENDS NOW. 1114 00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:06,832 IT ENDS HERE. 1115 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:08,367 I'M NOT GONNA BE A HOARDER 1116 00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:09,301 ANYMORE"? 1117 00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:11,270 >> I CAN'T DO THAT. 1118 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:12,938 >> IN SOME WAYS, IT WAS THE 1119 00:36:12,938 --> 00:36:14,573 PERFECT STORM FOR BILL'S 1120 00:36:14,573 --> 00:36:16,608 HOARDING, BECAUSE IT CONTAINED 1121 00:36:16,608 --> 00:36:18,610 EVERY ELEMENT OF WHAT HE LIKES 1122 00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,612 TO SAVE, RIGHT THERE IN THAT 1123 00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:20,912 BOX. 1124 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:22,614 >> I'M FEELING RESENTMENT, 1125 00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:26,352 ANGER, UM...AND THAT'S SHUTTING 1126 00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:27,819 ME DOWN. 1127 00:36:27,819 --> 00:36:30,389 AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S VERY UPSET. 1128 00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:31,357 I CAN'T -- 1129 00:36:31,357 --> 00:36:33,392 >> TAKE THE BOX. JUST KEEP IT. 1130 00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:35,661 >> I CAN'T SOLVE THAT RIGHT NOW. 1131 00:36:35,661 --> 00:36:37,596 I JUST CAN'T. I CAN'T DO IT. 1132 00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:39,265 >> I FEEL LIKE WE DIDN'T 1133 00:36:39,265 --> 00:36:40,366 ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. 1134 00:36:40,366 --> 00:36:42,568 I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE BACK 1135 00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:44,002 TO WHAT IT WAS AND IT'S NOT 1136 00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:44,970 GONNA CHANGE. 1137 00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:47,306 >> SO I AM SHUTTING DOWN. 1138 00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:48,907 I'M NOT GONNA DEAL WITH IT. 1139 00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:11,663 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 1140 00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:13,332 >> THE GAME PLAN FOR TODAY IS 1141 00:37:13,332 --> 00:37:14,800 FINISHING UP SOME OF THE 1142 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,768 ODDS-AND-ENDS ITEMS THAT WE HAVE 1143 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,670 TO DO, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A 1144 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:19,805 SAFE ENVIRONMENT. 1145 00:37:19,805 --> 00:37:21,773 THINGS THAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW, 1146 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,609 WITH PATTY'S PERMISSION, HAS 1147 00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:25,344 BEEN TO GO THROUGH, GET RID OF 1148 00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:26,912 ANY FOOD THAT'S EXPIRED. 1149 00:37:26,912 --> 00:37:28,614 AND THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE 1150 00:37:28,614 --> 00:37:29,815 THINGS -- WE DON'T GET TO THE 1151 00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:30,916 BACK OF THE FRIDGE. 1152 00:37:30,916 --> 00:37:32,451 WE DON'T ALWAYS GET TO THE TOP 1153 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,652 OF THE FRIDGE. 1154 00:37:33,652 --> 00:37:34,353 SO ITEMS DO EXPIRE. 1155 00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:36,021 AND BEING CAREFUL ABOUT MOUSE 1156 00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:37,656 POOP WHEN IT'S ON STUFF OR ANY 1157 00:37:37,656 --> 00:37:38,857 KIND OF INDICATORS OF 1158 00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:40,426 CRITTERS -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 1159 00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:42,328 TO GET RID OF THAT TO MAKE IT A 1160 00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:43,329 SAFE ENVIRONMENT. 1161 00:37:43,329 --> 00:37:44,763 IF STUFF HAS BLACK MOLD ON IT... 1162 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:45,464 >> RIGHT. 1163 00:37:45,464 --> 00:37:46,765 >> ...IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I 1164 00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:48,367 JUST DIDN'T LOOK TOO CLOSELY AT 1165 00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:48,534 IT. 1166 00:37:48,534 --> 00:37:49,901 >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. 1167 00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:52,404 I AGREE. 1168 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,479 THIS IS PAINFUL DOING THIS. 1169 00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:01,046 YOU KNOW WHAT? 1170 00:38:01,046 --> 00:38:02,648 >> DO YOU WANT ME TO GO IN 1171 00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:02,914 INSTEAD? 1172 00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:03,915 >> NO, I CAN DO IT. 1173 00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:06,685 IT'S JUST -- IT'S EMBARRASSING 1174 00:38:06,685 --> 00:38:10,088 AND HUMILIATING, VERY. 1175 00:38:10,088 --> 00:38:10,889 [ SIGHS ] 1176 00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:12,424 ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD. 1177 00:38:12,424 --> 00:38:13,425 >> OKAY, SO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO 1178 00:38:13,425 --> 00:38:14,726 TELL ME ABOUT THE EMBARRASSMENT 1179 00:38:14,726 --> 00:38:16,695 RIGHT NOW? 1180 00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,965 >> [ SIGHS ] 1181 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,500 'CAUSE THIS IS MY DAUGHTER'S 1182 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,369 ROOM, AND IT SHOULDN'T LOOK LIKE 1183 00:38:23,369 --> 00:38:23,802 THIS. 1184 00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:25,937 HER ROOM SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY. 1185 00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,806 IT SHOULD BE PRETTY AND NICE AND 1186 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,408 NEAT. 1187 00:38:29,408 --> 00:38:30,876 >> IT SHOULD BE NICE AND NEAT. 1188 00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:31,443 I KNOW THAT. 1189 00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:32,978 >> IT SHOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS. 1190 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:34,112 >> DID SHE DO ALL THIS? 1191 00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:35,981 >> NO, SHE DIDN'T DO ANY OF IT. 1192 00:38:35,981 --> 00:38:38,717 I DID IT. 1193 00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:40,952 I JUST FELT BURIED IN ALL THAT 1194 00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:41,720 STUFF. 1195 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,989 AND IT WAS SO EMBARRASSING AND 1196 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:46,091 SO HUMILIATING BECAUSE THEY 1197 00:38:46,091 --> 00:38:48,394 SHOULD BE MY KIDS' SPACE, AND 1198 00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:50,429 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, AND I'VE 1199 00:38:50,429 --> 00:38:52,864 CREATED WHAT'S IN THERE, NOT MY 1200 00:38:52,864 --> 00:38:55,367 KIDS. 1201 00:39:03,742 --> 00:39:04,510 >> ALL RIGHT. 1202 00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:05,844 >> I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 1203 00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:07,713 I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 1204 00:39:13,385 --> 00:39:15,821 >> [ GROANS ] 1205 00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:23,995 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 1206 00:39:52,491 --> 00:39:55,494 >> IT WAS AN ANGRY SILENCE. 1207 00:39:55,494 --> 00:39:57,463 IT WAS CLEARLY OBVIOUS THAT HE 1208 00:39:57,463 --> 00:39:59,498 WANTED TO THROW IN THE TOWEL AT 1209 00:39:59,498 --> 00:40:01,032 SEVERAL JUNCTURES. 1210 00:40:01,032 --> 00:40:03,502 [ DOG BARKS ] 1211 00:40:03,502 --> 00:40:06,972 >> I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AND GET 1212 00:40:06,972 --> 00:40:08,173 BETTER. 1213 00:40:08,173 --> 00:40:09,808 I DON'T WANT TO REGRESS. 1214 00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:11,777 >> I DON'T WANT YOU TO, EITHER. 1215 00:40:11,777 --> 00:40:13,812 I WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN, TOO. 1216 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:14,946 BUT THIS -- WHAT I'M TRYING TO 1217 00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:16,047 SAY TO YOU IS I UNDERSTAND YOU 1218 00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:16,314 WERE DONE. 1219 00:40:16,314 --> 00:40:17,182 >> I WASN'T DONE. 1220 00:40:17,182 --> 00:40:18,216 >> AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU 1221 00:40:18,216 --> 00:40:19,117 WERE REALLY STRESSFUL. 1222 00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:20,519 >> WHEN I SAID I'M DONE, I 1223 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:21,787 WASN'T DONE UPSTAIRS. 1224 00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:23,188 I WAS DONE WITH THE PROCESS. 1225 00:40:23,188 --> 00:40:24,623 I WAS AT OVERLOAD AND WANTED 1226 00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:26,191 NOTHING TO DO WITH -- ANY MORE 1227 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:27,526 TO DO WITH HOARDING OR THE 1228 00:40:27,526 --> 00:40:28,927 SOLUTION OF THE PROBLEM OR 1229 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,462 ANYTHING WHEN I CAME BACK IN. 1230 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:31,797 I WAS FINISHED FOR THE DAY. 1231 00:40:31,797 --> 00:40:33,932 AND I WAS JUST -- I ALMOST 1232 00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:36,201 WALKED AWAY AND DIDN'T COME 1233 00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:36,935 BACK. 1234 00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:38,537 IF I HADN'T GONE FOR THAT WALK, 1235 00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:41,072 I WOULD HAVE -- THAT'S IT. 1236 00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:42,508 >> BUT IF WE JUST SAY, "WHEW, 1237 00:40:42,508 --> 00:40:43,942 WOW, THANK GOD THAT'S OVER. 1238 00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:45,176 YOU KNOW, IT WAS A GREAT 1239 00:40:45,176 --> 00:40:46,812 LEARNING EXPERIENCE, TA-DA," AND 1240 00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:48,213 KEEP ON GOING, WE'RE GONNA BE 1241 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,815 BACK HERE IN LESS THAN A WEEK, 1242 00:40:49,815 --> 00:40:51,550 BECAUSE THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH 1243 00:40:51,550 --> 00:40:52,951 BOXES TO FILL THE SPACES WE'VE 1244 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:53,652 CLEANED. 1245 00:40:53,652 --> 00:40:55,921 AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 1246 00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:57,923 THE RESULTS WILL BE DISASTROUS 1247 00:40:57,923 --> 00:40:58,990 FOR THE FAMILY. 1248 00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:00,926 >> MM-HMM. 1249 00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:15,240 >> MY BIGGEST CONCERN SEEING 1250 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,608 RESULTS WAS I WASN'T HAPPY. 1251 00:41:16,608 --> 00:41:18,143 OKAY, SURE, HE CLEANED THE 1252 00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:18,610 STAIRS. 1253 00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,045 SURE, HE CLEANED OFF THE TABLE. 1254 00:41:20,045 --> 00:41:21,913 GREAT, WE STILL HAVE THIS ENTIRE 1255 00:41:21,913 --> 00:41:23,048 HOUSE THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN 1256 00:41:23,048 --> 00:41:24,015 REMOTELY TOUCHED. 1257 00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:25,216 AND HE WAS HAVING SUCH A HARD 1258 00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:26,918 TIME GOING THROUGH THINGS THAT 1259 00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:28,019 SHOULDN'T EVEN MATTER. 1260 00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:30,155 >> THIS IS GOING TO BE MONTHS, 1261 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:31,557 MAYBE EVEN YEARS. 1262 00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:33,592 IT'S GONNA TAKE BILL AND THE 1263 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:35,927 FAMILY A LONG TIME TO GET RID OF 1264 00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:36,562 THIS. 1265 00:41:36,562 --> 00:41:37,563 THIS STUFF DIDN'T HAPPEN 1266 00:41:37,563 --> 00:41:38,897 OVERNIGHT, AND IT'S NOT GONNA 1267 00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:40,599 LEAVE OVERNIGHT. 1268 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:42,701 >> ONCE THE DOCTOR'S GONE, ONCE 1269 00:41:42,701 --> 00:41:44,603 WE'RE BACK TO OUR DAILY LIFE, 1270 00:41:44,603 --> 00:41:46,538 IT'S JUST NOT GONNA CHANGE. 1271 00:41:46,538 --> 00:41:48,874 >> AMELIA HASN'T GOTTEN OVER HER 1272 00:41:48,874 --> 00:41:50,542 UNHAPPINESS AT THE MOMENT 1273 00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:52,611 BECAUSE OF THAT FEAR THAT IT'S 1274 00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:54,613 NOT GONNA GO FORWARD, THAT I'M 1275 00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:55,714 GONNA REGRESS. 1276 00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:58,016 IT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND 1277 00:41:58,016 --> 00:41:59,985 IT BECOMES A NEVER-ENDING 1278 00:41:59,985 --> 00:42:00,619 BATTLE. 1279 00:42:00,619 --> 00:42:02,888 I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 1280 00:42:02,888 --> 00:42:05,557 >> I TRULY FEEL THAT IF THIS 1281 00:42:05,557 --> 00:42:08,226 STARTS TO REVERT BACK TO THE WAY 1282 00:42:08,226 --> 00:42:10,629 IT WAS, ONE, I'M GONNA PICK 1283 00:42:10,629 --> 00:42:11,963 STUFF UP AND THROW IT OUT IN THE 1284 00:42:11,963 --> 00:42:13,231 BACKYARD -- IT'S GONNA BE DONE 1285 00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:16,301 WITH -- BUT I CAN'T LIVE THIS 1286 00:42:16,301 --> 00:42:17,903 WAY, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO 1287 00:42:17,903 --> 00:42:19,037 BE AN ULTIMATUM. 1288 00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:20,906 HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE HIS 1289 00:42:20,906 --> 00:42:23,174 STUFF AND MOVE TO AN APARTMENT. 1290 00:42:23,174 --> 00:42:25,210 I CAN'T DO THIS. 1291 00:42:48,934 --> 00:42:51,202 >> OH, MY GOSH. 1292 00:42:51,202 --> 00:42:53,939 A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED. 1293 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:02,380 IT JUST GAVE ME, LIKE, THIS HOPE 1294 00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:04,215 AND ENLIGHTENMENT FOR HOW THINGS 1295 00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:05,784 ARE GOING TO BE FROM HERE ON 1296 00:43:05,784 --> 00:43:06,251 OUT. 1297 00:43:06,251 --> 00:43:07,753 I STILL HAVE THOSE VISIONS IN MY 1298 00:43:07,753 --> 00:43:11,256 MIND ABOUT ALL THE PILES OF 1299 00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:14,125 STUFF ON MY TABLE AND ON MY 1300 00:43:14,125 --> 00:43:16,695 COUNTER AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. 1301 00:43:16,695 --> 00:43:19,364 AND IT FEELS SO DIFFERENT NOW -- 1302 00:43:19,364 --> 00:43:22,300 NO PRISON WALLS, NO STUFF, NO 1303 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:25,203 CRINGING WHEN I WALK IN MY FRONT 1304 00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:26,037 DOOR. 1305 00:43:26,037 --> 00:43:27,205 IT FEELS GREAT. 1306 00:43:27,205 --> 00:43:29,240 IT'S LIKE A REBIRTH, A SECOND 1307 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,008 CHANCE. 1308 00:43:30,008 --> 00:43:32,010 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK? 1309 00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:33,712 >> I'M THINKING HOW EXCITED MY 1310 00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:35,246 DAUGHTER'S GONNA BE WHEN SHE 1311 00:43:35,246 --> 00:43:36,982 WALKS IN THERE AND SEES A ROOM 1312 00:43:36,982 --> 00:43:38,283 THAT SHE CAN'T EVER REMEMBER 1313 00:43:38,283 --> 00:43:39,317 HAVING SEEN. 1314 00:43:39,317 --> 00:43:40,385 >> UH-HUH. 1315 00:43:40,385 --> 00:43:43,188 >> SHE'S GONNA BE TOTALLY 1316 00:43:43,188 --> 00:43:44,756 ELATED TO HAVE ALL THAT SPACE 1317 00:43:44,756 --> 00:43:46,191 THAT'S ALL HER OWN. 1318 00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:47,325 >> MM-HMM. 1319 00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:48,994 >> WELL, FROM THE TIME THIS 1320 00:43:48,994 --> 00:43:50,295 STARTED AND THE GARAGE DOOR 1321 00:43:50,295 --> 00:43:52,163 OPENED ON THE FIRST DAY, TO 1322 00:43:52,163 --> 00:43:53,732 WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW AND HOW 1323 00:43:53,732 --> 00:43:55,266 FAR THIS HAS COME, IT'S 1324 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:56,001 BOGGLING. 1325 00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:57,335 WHEN I WALKED INTO THIS ROOM, I 1326 00:43:57,335 --> 00:43:57,836 LOST IT. 1327 00:43:57,836 --> 00:43:59,705 I JUST -- I HADN'T SEEN THIS 1328 00:43:59,705 --> 00:44:01,272 FLOOR IN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 1329 00:44:01,272 --> 00:44:02,140 YEARS. 1330 00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:04,042 AND PATTY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 1331 00:44:04,042 --> 00:44:05,711 THE KIDS, HOW THEY'RE GONNA 1332 00:44:05,711 --> 00:44:07,378 REACT, AND I JUST LOST IT. 1333 00:44:07,378 --> 00:44:09,114 THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS WHOLE 1334 00:44:09,114 --> 00:44:10,849 THING IS THIS IS ABOUT THE KIDS. 1335 00:44:10,849 --> 00:44:12,818 THIS IS FOR THEM. 1336 00:44:12,818 --> 00:44:14,352 >> I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY 1337 00:44:14,352 --> 00:44:16,154 DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DECIDE TO 1338 00:44:16,154 --> 00:44:17,355 OPEN MYSELF UP AND TO EXPOSE 1339 00:44:17,355 --> 00:44:19,357 MYSELF, BECAUSE THIS IS 1340 00:44:19,357 --> 00:44:21,760 SOMETHING THAT NOBODY LIKES TO 1341 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,261 SHARE WITH ANYONE. 1342 00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:25,363 BUT I KNEW IT WAS MY ONLY CHANCE 1343 00:44:25,363 --> 00:44:27,999 AT GETTING MY KIDS BACK.