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>> PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER COMES

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IN MY HOUSE DOESN'T LEAVE.

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I'M WILLING TO CHANGE 'CAUSE I'M

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GONNA KILL MYSELF IF I DON'T.

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>> YOU GOT HERE 5 MINUTES AGO.

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WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM?

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YOU KNOW NOTHING.

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>> IT'S ABOUT AS BAD AS I'VE

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EVER SEEN.

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>> I DON'T WANT TO BE ANGRY AT

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YOU, AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST

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TRYING TO HELP ME, BUT IT REALLY

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PISSES ME OFF.

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>> I DON'T HAVE NAMES FOR ALL OF

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THEM.

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I KNOW THEM ALL.

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THEY ALL COME SIT ON MY LAP.

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>> WE WILL REMOVE ALL THE

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ANIMALS TOMORROW.

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>> HOLD ON.

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>> OH! IT'S SNAGGED.

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>> YOU DO HAVE SKELETONS UP

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THERE NOW?

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>> I DO HAVE SKELETONS.

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>> FEEDING ANIMALS IS SOMETHING

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I'D HAVE TO DO, NO MATTER WHAT,

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EVEN IF YOU PUT ME IN PRISON.

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>> MY NAME IS JAKE.

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I'M 21, AND I'M UNEMPLOYED.

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I DON'T ACTUALLY INTEND TO

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COLLECT ANYTHING.

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PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER COMES IN MY

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HOUSE DOESN'T LEAVE.

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FOOD WRAPPERS...

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BOTTLES, CANS...

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ANY KIND OF GARBAGE, REALLY.

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>> MY NAME IS JO, AND I'M JAKE'S

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MOM.

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I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

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I THINK THAT THAT'S HOW IT

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BEGAN, JUST ALL THIS STUFF

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STARTED PILING UP, AND IT GOT TO

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THE POINT WHERE IT'S TOO MUCH.

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>> EVERY SINGLE OBJECT HAS A

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MEANING BEHIND IT.

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SAY, MY MOM BUYS ME A WATER

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BOTTLE.

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I FEEL LIKE, IF I THROW THE

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WATER BOTTLE AWAY, THAT I'M

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SAYING I DON'T LOVE MY MOTHER.

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>> I CAN GO IN HIS ROOM AND SEE

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EVERYTHING I'VE EVER BROUGHT

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OVER.

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IT'S THERE.

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>> THE REASON THERE'S SO MUCH

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DOG HAIR IN THE HOUSE IS BECAUSE

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I FEEL LIKE, IF I THROW AWAY THE

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DOG HAIR, THAT I'M GOING TO

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SPEED UP MY DOG'S AGING.

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AND I KNOW HOW INSANE THAT IS,

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BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M KILLING HER

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BY DOING IT.

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I DON'T EVEN TRY ANYMORE.

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I USED TO.

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I USED TO MANAGE IT SOMEHOW,

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BUT...

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IT'S SUCH [BLEEP] WHEN YOU CAN

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LOSE SOMETHING WITHIN A ONE-FOOT

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VICINITY OF YOU, AND YOU

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ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT.

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IT JUST HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH

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WORSE.

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IT'S LIKE I'M JUST BEING, LIKE,

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SWALLOWED ALIVE BY GARBAGE.

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I'M WILLING TO CHANGE 'CAUSE I'M

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GONNA KILL MYSELF IF I DON'T.

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>> MY NAME IS FRANKLIN, AND I AM

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JAKE'S BOYFRIEND.

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JAKE THINKS THAT THE ONLY WAY

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OUT IS SUICIDE.

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HE DOES SAY THAT QUITE OFTEN,

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UM, AND THAT REALLY UPSETS ME.

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TO HEAR SOMEBODY THAT YOUNG TALK

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ABOUT SUICIDE CONSTANTLY, IT

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JUST BREAKS YOUR HEART.

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>> MY NAME IS TERRY.

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I'M JAKE'S DAD.

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JAKE AND I LIVE IN -- ACTUALLY,

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I-IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUST SAY

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THIS, BUT, UM, JAKE AND I LIVE

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PRETTY MUCH IN A GARBAGE DUMP.

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>> I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE

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HOUSE, IT'S A 2-PERSON ACT.

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EVERYTHING UPSTAIRS IS ALL

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JAKE, AND EVERYTHING DOWNSTAIRS

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IS ALL TERRY.

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>> IT'S JUST -- I MEAN, WHEN

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THEY FIRST MOVED IN, IT WAS A

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REGULAR APARTMENT.

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AND, UM...

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NOW IT'S JUST A JUNK HEAP.

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>> THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF BOTTLES

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ON THE FLOOR, AND THAT'S JUST

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FROM SIX MONTHS.

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BUT I'VE BEEN PILING THEM UP FOR

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YEARS.

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I JUST DON'T TAKE THEM OUT.

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I DON'T CARE.

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>> MY DAD IS DEFINITELY AN

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ALCOHOLIC -- ABSOLUTELY, NO

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DOUBT.

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I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT MAKES MY

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SITUATION ANY WORSE, BUT...

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IT CERTAINLY MAKES IT HARDER TO

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FOCUS ON MY OWN PROBLEMS.

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[ Voice breaking ] I DON'T LIKE

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LIVING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW?

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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I'D GIVE [BLEEP] ANYTHING IN THE

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[BLEEP] DAMN WORLD TO NOT HAVE

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THIS [BLEEP] GOING ON IN MY

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HEAD CONSTANTLY.

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[ INHALES SHARPLY ]

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I DON'T WANT MY PARENTS TO HAVE

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TO KEEP WORRYING ABOUT ME AND

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TAKING CARE OF ME...

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AND THINKING THAT THEIR SON IS

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GONNA DIE BEFORE THEY DO.

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>> THERE HAVE BEEN POINTS IN HIS

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LIFE WHERE HE WOULD HAVE RATHER

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DIED THAN...

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[ SIGHS ]

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HE'S SUCH A GOOD KID.

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HE'D NEVER HURT ANYBODY, AND

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HE'S -- AND HE'S -- IT'S JUST

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SAD THAT HE HAS THIS DISORDER,

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WHATEVER IT IS.

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IT BREAKS MY HEART.

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>> [ SIGHS ]

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[ SOBS ]

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I WANT THINGS TO WORK FOR HIM.

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THAT'S ALL.

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>> THEY JUST SPEND THEIR ENTIRE

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LIVES TAKING CARE OF ME AND

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MAKING SURE I'M OKAY.

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AND I'M 21, AND...

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[ SOBBING ]

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I'M SORRY.

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[ SOBS ]

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I'M 21.

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I'M SUPPOSED TO BE OUT, HAVING

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FUN [SNIFFLES] GRADUATING

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COLLEGE AND ALL THAT, BUT I

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CAN'T EVEN TAKE CARE OF MY OWN

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HYGIENE.

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IF I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY,

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REALLY, HONESTLY THINK ABOUT

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WHAT MAKES ME HAPPIEST -- AND I

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KNOW HOW SICK THIS IS -- THE

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THING THAT MAKES ME FEEL

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HAPPIEST IS THINKING ABOUT

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DYING.

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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THAT'S A WAY OUT.

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THAT IS A WAY OUT.

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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[ DOG BARKING ]

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>> MY NAME IS SHIRLEY, AND

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I'M 71.

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I BELIEVE I HAVE AT LEAST 20 TO

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25 ANIMALS IN THE HOUSE.

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I DON'T HAVE NAMES FOR ALL OF

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THEM.

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I KNOW THEM ALL.

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THEY ALL COME SIT ON MY LAP AND

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DO THAT.

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SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT

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MORE FRIGHTENED OR STANDOFFISH.

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>> I'M BAILEY, AND, UM, I'M

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SHIRLEY'S HUSBAND.

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MY GUESS IS, WE PROBABLY HAVE

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SOMEWHERE AROUND 21.

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AND THERE MIGHT BE, UH,

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THERE'S TWO OR THREE LITTLE

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KITTENS THAT WERE JUST BORN, SO

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THOSE I'M NOT SURE OF.

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THAT MIGHT BRING IT UP TO AROUND

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24 OR 25.

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>> I'M CHARLIE, SHIRLEY'S SON.

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MY PARENTS HAVE TAKEN ON PRETTY

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MUCH EVERY STRAY IN THE

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NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SOME BY

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CHOICE AND A LOT BY NOT HAVING A

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CHOICE WHATSOEVER.

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THEY JUST KIND OF LEFT THEM IN

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THEIR PATIO OR HAVE GOTTEN

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INSIDE OF THE GARAGE, UH,

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NEIGHBORS HAVING PUPPIES AND

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KITTENS AND EVERYTHING ELSE,

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KNOWING THAT MY FOLKS ARE --

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ARE -- WILL OPEN THEIR DOORS TO

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JUST ABOUT ANY PET.

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>> AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN

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THIS AREA THINK NOTHING OF

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MOVING IN AND OUT WITHOUT TAKING

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THEIR ANIMALS WITH THEM WHEN

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THEY LEAVE.

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SO THAT LEAVES IT TO SOMEBODY,

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AND I BECAME THAT SOMEBODY.

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AND BECAUSE I WAS KIND TO

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ANIMALS AND CATS, THEY'D THROW

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THEM HERE.

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SOMETIMES THEY'D BE ALIVE, AND

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SOMETIMES THEY'D BE DEAD.

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>> MY MOTHER, YOU KNOW, SHE

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DOESN'T THINK ABOUT IT.

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SHE JUST BRINGS THEM RIGHT

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ON IN.

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>> I WAS JUST TAKING CARE OF

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ANIMALS THAT NOBODY WANTED.

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AND THEY DON'T EVEN WANT THEM

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OUT TO THE POUND.

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>> THEY KEEP SHOWING UP AS

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KITTENS AT THE DOORSTEP, AND

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KITTENS ARE AWFUL HARD TO NOT

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LIKE, YOU KNOW.

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YOU GET A LITTLE KITTEN, AND IT

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GROWS UP TO BE A CAT.

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AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN KEEP

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FROM HAVING MORE IS HAVE THEM

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SPAYED OR NEUTERED, AND

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SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET THEM IN

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TIME.

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>> THE HOUSE IS IN POOR

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CONDITION AT THE MOMENT.

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>> THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS.

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ONCE YOU HOARD ANIMALS, YOU

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USUALLY HOARD YOURSELF.

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ALL YOUR POSSESSIONS BECOME IN

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BOXES RIGHT AROUND YOU.

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>> IT'S PRETTY BAD.

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A LOT OF DUST AND A LOT OF PET,

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UH, DAMAGE.

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UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S JUST THE

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WAY THAT THEY LIKE TO LIVE.

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>> WHEN YOU WALK IN, IT'S MESSY.

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IT'S GOT BOXES ALL OVER, AND I

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HAVE A MESSY GARAGE.

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>> THAT'S WHERE ALL THE CATS

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FROM THE OUTSIDE WERE STAYING,

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YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAD THE DOOR

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PROPPED.

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THEY'D JUST STAY RIGHT THERE IN

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THE MIDDLE OF THE GARAGE.

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AND THE STUFF THAT WAS STORED IN

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THERE WAS DESTROYED, YOU KNOW,

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BY THE CATS.

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I KNOW THAT.

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>> IT TRANSLATED TO COMING HOME

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AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ONE

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THING HERE -- ONE THING.

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I'M UNHAPPY BECAUSE I CAN'T

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CLEAN THE HOUSE.

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THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M UPSET

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ABOUT IS I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO

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DO IT RIGHT, THE WAY EVERYBODY

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ELSE DOES.

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BUT I CAN'T.

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THE FIRST TIME THEY CAME HERE,

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THEY CAME AND STARTED SHOUTING I

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HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE

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CATS, I HAD TO GET RID OF THEM.

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THEY WEREN'T GONNA TAKE THEM

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AWAY.

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I SAID, "WELL, IF YOU WANT TO,

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GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEM," BECAUSE

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YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE A DRUG

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ADDICT OR YOU'RE SELLING DRUGS,

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BECAUSE THEY MAKE -- ALL YOU ARE

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IS TAKING CARE OF ANIMALS.

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"WHY ARE YOU HOARDING ALL THESE

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CATS AND DOGS?"

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BECAUSE I LOVE THEM.

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I DON'T WANT TO DO IT, BUT WHAT

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CHOICE DO YOU HAVE WHEN YOU'RE

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IN THIS SITUATION?

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O0 C1 P

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>> ANYTIME I START TO TACKLE ONE

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COMPULSION, ANOTHER ONE POPS UP.

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HOARDING HAS BEEN THE MOST

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DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME TO TACKLE.

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IT GIVES ME INSANE PANIC

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ATTACKS.

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I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO THE E.R.,

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LIKE, COUNTLESS TIMES BECAUSE

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I-I JUST CAN'T HANDLE IT.

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[ Voice breaking ] HONESTLY, I

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DON'T SEE A WAY OUT.

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WHEN I REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, I

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JUST THINK I'M GONNA DIE LIKE

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THIS.

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AND I DON'T WANT TO [BLEEP] DIE

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LIKE THIS.

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[ SOBBING ]

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>> HI, IT'S TARA.

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HI, I'M DR. TARA FIELDS.

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I'M A LICENSED PSYCHOTHERAPIST.

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I WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE OCD,

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HOARDING DISORDERS, AND IN MANY

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OTHER THINGS.

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>> HE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU

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ALONE.

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>> OKAY.

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>> I WANT TO GIVE YOU A WARNING.

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HE'S EXTREMELY DRUNK.

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>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO TALK

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TO HIM.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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>> TERRY!

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I HEAR YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME.

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I'M TARA.

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>> WELL, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST.

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I DON'T TRUST YOU GUYS.

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>> YOU KNOW -- I MEAN, I HAVE

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TO -- YOU'RE BRINGING UP

329
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SOMETHING, AND I CAN SMELL

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YOU'VE BEEN DRINKING.

331
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>> YES, I'VE BEEN DRINKING.

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SO WHAT?

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SO WHAT?

334
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>> WELL --

335
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>> WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH

336
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ANYTHING?

337
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>> STOP BEING AN [BLEEP]

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>> WHY IS THAT A PROBLEM?

339
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>> WELL, WHAT I SEE IS JAKE'S

340
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GETTING VERY AGITATED.

341
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>> JAKE'S GETTING AGITATED

342
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BECAUSE I'M GIVING YOU A HARD

343
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TIME, THAT'S ALL THAT IS.

344
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>> I'M GETTING AGITATED BECAUSE

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YOU'RE NOT BEING RATIONAL RIGHT

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NOW.

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IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT YOU ARE

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JUST SITTING ON THE GRASS AND

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DRINKING ALL DAY.

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AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE

351
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TO SEE SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT

352
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DOING THAT TO THEMSELVES?

353
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DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT IT'S

354
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LIKE TO SEE THAT?

355
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>> I HAVE TO STAND BACK ALSO,

356
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BECAUSE --

357
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>> OKAY, YOU DON'T LIKE THE

358
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SMELL.

359
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I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU LIKE.

360
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>> MM-HMM.

361
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>> YOU GOT HERE 5 MINUTES AGO.

362
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WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM?

363
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YOU KNOW NOTHING.

364
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>> DAD, DO NOT GET IN HER FACE!

365
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>> YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S OKAY.

366
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DO YOU WANT ME TO BE A PART OF

367
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THIS?

368
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>> [ SNIFFLES ] I DO.

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IT'S JUST --

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>> OKAY, AND HERE'S WHAT I WANT

371
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TO REASSURE YOU ABOUT -- AND

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YOUR DAD CAN CHOOSE TO LISTEN OR

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NOT -- IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE

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IN CONTROL.

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ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DO,

376
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YOU JUST TELL ME.

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SO YOU HAVE ALL THE CONTROL.

378
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I PROMISE YOU.

379
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>> I CAN ACTUALLY JUST LEAVE.

380
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IS THAT OKAY?

381
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>> I'M SO OKAY WITH THAT.

382
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>> NO, NO, YOU HAVE ALL THE

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POWER.

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>> JAKE WANTS ME TO LEAVE.

385
00:14:00,107 --> 00:14:01,208
OKAY, DO YOU WANT HER TO BE

386
00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:02,009
HERE?

387
00:14:02,009 --> 00:14:02,342
>> YES, I DO!

388
00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,111
>> OKAY, I WANT HER TO BE HERE,

389
00:14:04,111 --> 00:14:05,278
TOO, FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE

390
00:14:05,278 --> 00:14:06,313
TO BE HERE WITH HER.

391
00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,314
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO,

392
00:14:07,314 --> 00:14:08,115
ABSOLUTELY.

393
00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:09,149
>> SHE'S HERE FOR YOU.

394
00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:10,217
SHE'S NOT HERE FOR ME.

395
00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:11,218
>> THAT'S RIGHT.

396
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LET'S CONTINUE AND SEE THE HOME.

397
00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,254
>> ALL RIGHT.

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BYE, DAD.

399
00:14:15,022 --> 00:14:16,323
>> DON'T TRUST A WORD SHE SAYS.

400
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>> DAD, SHUT THE [BLEEP] UP!

401
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,062
[ SIGHS ]

402
00:14:22,062 --> 00:14:23,363
>> IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY.

403
00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:24,932
>> [ SNIFFLES ]

404
00:14:24,932 --> 00:14:25,966
>> IT'S OKAY.

405
00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:26,299
WHAT --

406
00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:28,035
>> IT'S SO [BLEEP] UP.

407
00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:29,970
>> YOU KNOW WHAT? IT IS.

408
00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:32,039
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT IS.

409
00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:33,106
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

410
00:14:33,106 --> 00:14:34,341
SEE, YOU'VE GOT TWO BATTLES

411
00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:35,042
GOING ON.

412
00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:36,276
YOUR DAD DID HAVE A POINT.

413
00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,344
YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

414
00:14:37,344 --> 00:14:39,179
IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD TRUST.

415
00:14:39,179 --> 00:14:41,248
SO WHATEVER YOU NEED FROM ME TO

416
00:14:41,248 --> 00:14:43,350
FEEL SAFE WITH ME, YOU TELL ME.

417
00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:48,055
OKAY?

418
00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:49,289
>> THIS IS, UH, WHERE MY DAD

419
00:14:49,289 --> 00:14:50,257
SLEEPS, ACTUALLY.

420
00:14:50,257 --> 00:14:51,925
>> YOUR DAD SLEEPS THERE?

421
00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,994
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A DOG BED.

422
00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:55,328
>> UM [CHUCKLES] I THINK IT'D BE

423
00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:57,064
MORE SUITED FOR A DOG, BUT,

424
00:14:57,064 --> 00:14:57,264
UM...

425
00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:59,066
>> ARE THOSE ALL LIQUOR BOTTLES?

426
00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:00,968
>> YEAH. ACTUALLY, ALL THOSE

427
00:15:00,968 --> 00:15:02,069
BAGS ARE WINE BOTTLES.

428
00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:04,171
>> JAKE'S DAD IS OBVIOUSLY AN

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00:15:04,171 --> 00:15:05,138
ALCOHOLIC.

430
00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:07,074
HE KNOWS HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC, JAKE

431
00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:08,341
KNOWS HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC.

432
00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:09,342
IT'S NO SECRET.

433
00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:11,178
SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT A LOT

434
00:15:11,178 --> 00:15:13,947
OF THIS -- A LOT OF THIS IS YOUR

435
00:15:13,947 --> 00:15:16,116
DAD'S BOTTLES -- EMPTY BOTTLES.

436
00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:18,285
>> HE SORT OF GAVE UP CLEANING,

437
00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:20,353
ONCE IT WAS JUST ME AND HIM.

438
00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:21,188
>> MM-HMM.

439
00:15:21,188 --> 00:15:23,090
>> IT SORT OF JUST WENT DOWNHILL

440
00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:23,356
FOR HIM.

441
00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:25,025
HE STOPPED CARING ABOUT

442
00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:26,059
CLEANLINESS.

443
00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:26,426
>> YEAH.

444
00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,461
ON TOP OF THIS HORROR OF THIS

445
00:15:28,461 --> 00:15:31,098
HOARDING DISORDER THAT JAKE HAS,

446
00:15:31,098 --> 00:15:33,100
HIS FATHER IS ANOTHER MONKEY ON

447
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:36,236
HIS BACK.

448
00:15:36,236 --> 00:15:40,273
WOW.

449
00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,209
>> UM, SO [ CHUCKLES ]

450
00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:44,311
>> WOW. I-I...

451
00:15:44,311 --> 00:15:46,313
IT WAS PHYSICALLY PAINFUL TO

452
00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:47,214
BREATHE.

453
00:15:47,214 --> 00:15:49,316
IT WASN'T JUST THAT THE STENCH

454
00:15:49,316 --> 00:15:51,384
IS SO OVERWHELMING, BUT IT

455
00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,121
ALREADY STARTED SORT OF EATING

456
00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:55,122
AT MY THROAT.

457
00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:57,124
>> UM...

458
00:15:57,124 --> 00:15:59,126
THIS IS GONNA BE REALLY INTENSE.

459
00:15:59,126 --> 00:16:02,529
>> IT SMELLS LIKE MILDEW MEETS

460
00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:06,266
DOG BARF MEETS HUMAN BARF OR,

461
00:16:06,266 --> 00:16:08,101
LIKE, HOT GARBAGE OR SOMETHING.

462
00:16:08,101 --> 00:16:10,270
IT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY PUTRID

463
00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:11,104
SMELL.

464
00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:12,139
>> IS THIS YOUR BEDROOM?

465
00:16:12,139 --> 00:16:13,540
>> IT'S THE CLEANEST ROOM IN THE

466
00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:15,108
HOUSE, UNFORTUNATELY.

467
00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:17,210
>> IT'S UNBEARABLY FILTHY.

468
00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:19,279
NO LIVING CREATURE SHOULD BE IN

469
00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,148
THERE -- NO LIVING CREATURE.

470
00:16:21,148 --> 00:16:22,449
>> YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S

471
00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:23,450
ROTTING FOOD...

472
00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:24,251
>> MPH!

473
00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:27,187
>> AND, UM, THERE'S SPIDER WEBS

474
00:16:27,187 --> 00:16:28,088
EVERYWHERE.

475
00:16:28,088 --> 00:16:29,156
>> I GOT IT.

476
00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:30,523
>> THERE'S INSECTS EVERYWHERE.

477
00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:33,160
>> IT'S ABOUT AS BAD AS I'VE

478
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,362
EVER SEEN.

479
00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:36,296
LET'S GO, LET'S GO.

480
00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:37,530
>> I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING NOT TO

481
00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:38,365
CRY RIGHT NOW.

482
00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:41,168
>> YOU CAN CRY.

483
00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:42,502
>> I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS

484
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:46,173
HOUSE.

485
00:16:46,173 --> 00:16:51,078
[ SIGHS ]

486
00:16:51,078 --> 00:16:52,445
IT'S JUST A NIGHTMARE THAT NEVER

487
00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:55,115
ENDS.

488
00:17:01,488 --> 00:17:03,190
>> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT

489
00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:05,192
SOMEBODY THAT'S LIKE ME IS THAT

490
00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:07,094
THEY'RE NOT DOING IT OUT OF A --

491
00:17:07,094 --> 00:17:08,328
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT.

492
00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:10,163
IT JUST GET -- IT STARTS WITH

493
00:17:10,163 --> 00:17:12,132
YOU BEING KIND, AND IT MOVES

494
00:17:12,132 --> 00:17:14,101
INTO SOMETHING MUCH GREATER THAN

495
00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:15,335
THAT.

496
00:17:18,305 --> 00:17:20,272
AND I ALWAYS FELT THREATENED

497
00:17:20,272 --> 00:17:22,242
WHEN THEY'D COME TO COMPLAIN

498
00:17:22,242 --> 00:17:24,411
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.

499
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,213
BUT WHEN I SAID, "THE CATS

500
00:17:26,213 --> 00:17:27,579
OUTSIDE -- IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE

501
00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:29,282
THEM, PLEASE TAKE THEM," BUT

502
00:17:29,282 --> 00:17:30,217
THEY REFUSED.

503
00:17:30,217 --> 00:17:31,484
THEY SAID THAT, NO, I WAS

504
00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:34,053
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

505
00:17:45,332 --> 00:17:47,534
DID YOU MEET -- THIS IS ROBYN.

506
00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:49,269
>> ROBYN GOJKOVICH, CRIMINAL

507
00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:50,637
INVESTIGATOR, DOÑA ANA COUNTY

508
00:17:50,637 --> 00:17:52,272
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

509
00:17:52,272 --> 00:17:53,640
WE WILL REMOVE ALL THE ANIMALS

510
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,507
TOMORROW.

511
00:17:54,507 --> 00:17:56,243
AND THEN IF -- I HAVE TALKED TO

512
00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:58,178
SHIRLEY, AND I TOLD HER THAT SHE

513
00:17:58,178 --> 00:17:59,346
NEEDED TO MAKE A LIST OF THE

514
00:17:59,346 --> 00:18:01,181
CATS THAT SHE WANTED TO KEEP.

515
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:02,449
I TOLD HER SHE COULD ONLY HAVE

516
00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:04,151
UP TO SIX DOMESTIC ANIMALS

517
00:18:04,151 --> 00:18:05,118
UNLESS SHE HAS A

518
00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:07,120
MULTIPLE ANIMAL PERMIT.

519
00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:13,126
OKAY, SO --

520
00:18:13,126 --> 00:18:14,261
>> SO, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO,

521
00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:15,528
COME IN AFTERWARDS AND EXAMINE

522
00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:17,164
IT TO SEE IF IT'S WHAT YOU WANT?

523
00:18:17,164 --> 00:18:19,432
>> YES, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.

524
00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:27,140
IN ORDER FOR HER TO PASS AN

525
00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:28,208
INSPECTION FOR A

526
00:18:28,208 --> 00:18:29,576
MULTIPLE ANIMAL PERMIT, THE

527
00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:31,278
HOUSE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE

528
00:18:31,278 --> 00:18:33,246
COMPLETELY GUTTED OUT.

529
00:18:33,246 --> 00:18:34,147
>> HEATHER FERGUSON,

530
00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:35,315
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR

531
00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:37,250
ANIMAL PROTECTION OF NEW MEXICO.

532
00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:38,551
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE TO IMAGINE

533
00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:40,353
THAT ANYONE HAS BEEN LIVING

534
00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:42,255
WITHIN THAT HOME, SLEEPING

535
00:18:42,255 --> 00:18:42,689
WITHIN THAT HOME.

536
00:18:42,689 --> 00:18:44,291
AND HOW LONG HAVE THOSE ANIMALS

537
00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:45,525
BEEN IN THAT HOME, SUFFERING?

538
00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:47,194
>> IF A CAT DIED IN THERE, IT

539
00:18:47,194 --> 00:18:48,328
MAY NOT EVEN HAVE TIME TO SMELL,

540
00:18:48,328 --> 00:18:49,596
BECAUSE THE OTHER CATS ARE GOING

541
00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:50,597
TO EAT IT.

542
00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:52,532
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- IT MIGHT

543
00:18:52,532 --> 00:18:54,201
BE DISGUSTING, BUT THAT'S

544
00:18:54,201 --> 00:19:00,173
REALITY.

545
00:19:00,173 --> 00:19:01,541
>> HELLO, IT'S MATT.

546
00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:03,443
>> HI, MATT. HOW ARE YOU?

547
00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:04,611
WHY DON'T YOU COME ON IN?

548
00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:06,279
>> VERY NICE TO MEET YOU.

549
00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,347
>> NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO.

550
00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:08,581
>> THANKS FOR LETTING ME IN.

551
00:19:08,581 --> 00:19:09,716
I AM MATT PAXTON, A HOARDING

552
00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:10,450
SPECIALIST.

553
00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:11,584
YOU WANT TO GO CHECK OUT THE

554
00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:12,285
HOUSE?

555
00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:12,619
>> SURE.

556
00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:13,320
>> OKAY.

557
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,222
YOU CAN GAUGE THE HOUSE BY ABOUT

558
00:19:15,222 --> 00:19:15,722
50 FEET AWAY.

559
00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:17,657
WHEN I WALKED UP TO THE HOME,

560
00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:19,492
YOU COULD SMELL THE URINE AND

561
00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:21,194
THE FECES PRETTY STRONGLY.

562
00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:22,195
WE HAD A VISIT FROM THE

563
00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:23,230
ANIMAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AND

564
00:19:23,230 --> 00:19:24,431
IT'S CLEARLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE

565
00:19:24,431 --> 00:19:25,198
CATS.

566
00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:26,199
IT'S FUNNY, ALL I SEE IS

567
00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:26,466
CLOTHES.

568
00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:27,434
I DON'T SEE ANY CATS.

569
00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:28,335
WHERE ARE THEY?

570
00:19:28,335 --> 00:19:29,602
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE HIDDEN.

571
00:19:29,602 --> 00:19:30,737
AND BECAUSE WE LIVE SO

572
00:19:30,737 --> 00:19:32,472
PRIVATELY, THE ANIMALS ARE KIND

573
00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:33,373
OF LIKE WE ARE.

574
00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:34,707
WHEN SOMEBODY OPENS THE BACK

575
00:19:34,707 --> 00:19:36,343
DOOR, THEY IMMEDIATELY HIDE.

576
00:19:36,343 --> 00:19:37,744
SO EVEN MY CHILDREN DIDN'T KNOW

577
00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:39,379
ABOUT HOW MANY CATS I HAD OR

578
00:19:39,379 --> 00:19:41,581
WHAT WAS GOING ON, BECAUSE THEY

579
00:19:41,581 --> 00:19:44,217
WERE, UH, THEY DIDN'T SEE THEM.

580
00:19:44,217 --> 00:19:44,784
>> I MEAN, THERE'S AT LEAST

581
00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:45,618
30-SOME CATS.

582
00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:46,686
I THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND 40 OR

583
00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:48,388
50 WHEN WE REALLY GET INTO ALL

584
00:19:48,388 --> 00:19:48,655
THE TRASH.

585
00:19:48,655 --> 00:19:50,390
LET'S CHECK OUT THE REST OF THE

586
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:50,723
HOUSE.

587
00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:52,325
WE'LL SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.

588
00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:53,660
>> THIS IS IS MY FORMER BEDROOM,

589
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,528
WHERE I STAYED BEFORE I MOVED

590
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:56,663
INTO THE LIVING ROOM.

591
00:19:56,663 --> 00:19:58,398
>> I SEE A LOT OF CAT FOOD --

592
00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:01,501
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 PLATES.

593
00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:02,269
>> I KNOW.

594
00:20:02,269 --> 00:20:03,570
>> WHEN WE WALKED THROUGH THE

595
00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:04,771
HOUSE, EVERYTHING IN EVERY

596
00:20:04,771 --> 00:20:06,406
ROOM -- THE CATS HAVE CRAWLED

597
00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:07,740
INTO THE CHAIRS, THEY'VE EATEN

598
00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:08,775
INTO THE MATTRESSES.

599
00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:10,443
THEY ACTUALLY LIVE INSIDE THE

600
00:20:10,443 --> 00:20:11,244
MATTRESSES.

601
00:20:11,244 --> 00:20:12,679
>> THESE ARE WHERE THE CATS COME

602
00:20:12,679 --> 00:20:14,347
IN AND STAY IN HERE AND GET

603
00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:15,782
INSIDE THE BOXES AND DO A BUNCH

604
00:20:15,782 --> 00:20:16,549
OF THINGS.

605
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:17,750
>> I'VE HEARD YOU SAY THESE CATS

606
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:18,785
ARE YOUR KIDS, AND THEY'RE

607
00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:19,786
REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

608
00:20:19,786 --> 00:20:20,653
>> RIGHT, THEY ARE.

609
00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:22,522
>> HOARDING BECOMES KIND OF A

610
00:20:22,522 --> 00:20:23,756
REPLACEMENT FOR REALITY.

611
00:20:23,756 --> 00:20:25,392
IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT,

612
00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:26,659
WHEN SHE STARTS SEEING -- IN HER

613
00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:27,727
MIND, WHAT SHE SAID -- HER

614
00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:28,728
CHILDREN LEAVE.

615
00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:30,697
A LOT OF THESE CATS, THEY'RE

616
00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:31,798
GONNA GO AWAY.

617
00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:32,665
>> RIGHT.

618
00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:34,401
>> WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

619
00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:35,602
>> BADLY, TERRIBLY.

620
00:20:35,602 --> 00:20:37,537
IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO LET THEM GO,

621
00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:38,405
I WOULDN'T.

622
00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:39,539
>> THIS IS HER ADDICTION.

623
00:20:39,539 --> 00:20:40,440
THIS IS HER LIFE.

624
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,708
SHE'S LITERALLY SPENT THE LAST

625
00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:42,809
20 YEARS AVOIDING REALITY BY

626
00:20:42,809 --> 00:20:44,411
CARING FOR THESE ANIMALS.

627
00:20:44,411 --> 00:20:45,545
>> AND I BET YOU MOST OF THE

628
00:20:45,545 --> 00:20:46,713
PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING AND

629
00:20:46,713 --> 00:20:48,315
LISTENING TO ME, THEY DON'T KNOW

630
00:20:48,315 --> 00:20:49,416
WHERE TO GO OR WHAT TO DO.

631
00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:50,650
ALL THEY KNOW IS THEY'RE GONNA

632
00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:51,718
GET ARRESTED IF THEY DO

633
00:20:51,718 --> 00:20:52,719
ANYTHING.

634
00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:58,691
O0 C1 P

635
00:20:58,691 --> 00:21:00,427
>> MY ANXIETY IS PRETTY HIGH

636
00:21:00,427 --> 00:21:02,529
RIGHT NOW.

637
00:21:02,529 --> 00:21:03,730
IT'S REALLY WEIRD SEEING A BUNCH

638
00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:05,632
OF PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW PUTTING

639
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:07,367
ON FACE MASKS, ABOUT TO GO IN

640
00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:09,802
YOUR HOUSE, SO INTERESTING

641
00:21:09,802 --> 00:21:12,605
SITUATION, TO SAY THE LEAST.

642
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:22,815
>> SO, WHAT'S THE FEELING THAT'S

643
00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:23,783
COMING UP NOW?

644
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:24,751
>> [ Voice breaking ] I'M JUST

645
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:25,585
SCARED.

646
00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:26,386
>> OKAY.

647
00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:27,787
AND WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

648
00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:29,656
>> JUST, LIKE, HOW...

649
00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:30,823
>> RATE YOUR ANXIETY FOR ME.

650
00:21:30,823 --> 00:21:31,758
WHERE IS IT ON A SCALE OF

651
00:21:31,758 --> 00:21:33,726
1 TO 10?

652
00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:35,595
>> DEFINITELY, LIKE, A SOLID 8

653
00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:36,463
RIGHT NOW.

654
00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:37,630
IT KEEPS, LIKE, GOING UP AND

655
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:38,765
DOWN 'CAUSE I KEEP CONSIDERING

656
00:21:38,765 --> 00:21:39,866
DIFFERENT OUTCOMES.

657
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,468
>> I'M REALLY CLEAR THAT WE

658
00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:42,702
DON'T WANT IT TO GET TO A

659
00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:43,770
LEVEL 9, BECAUSE WE KNOW

660
00:21:43,770 --> 00:21:45,638
LEVEL 10 IS TOO MUCH FOR HIM TO

661
00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:46,373
HANDLE.

662
00:21:46,373 --> 00:21:47,774
SO IF I CAN REALLY CONVINCE HIM

663
00:21:47,774 --> 00:21:49,676
THAT ANYTHING BELOW A 9 -- IF

664
00:21:49,676 --> 00:21:51,478
IT'S AN 8, IF IT'S 7, IF HIS

665
00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:52,779
HEART'S BEATING -- THAT HE CAN

666
00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:54,481
ACTUALLY MANAGE THAT.

667
00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:55,782
OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO

668
00:21:55,782 --> 00:21:56,816
HEAR TO HELP YOU.

669
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,485
TELL ME WHAT THAT VOICE IS

670
00:21:58,485 --> 00:21:59,786
SAYING WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT

671
00:21:59,786 --> 00:22:01,688
THE OUTCOMES, BECAUSE THIS IS

672
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:04,391
HOW YOU FREEZE YOURSELF, HOW YOU

673
00:22:04,391 --> 00:22:06,793
GET THAT BRAIN LOCK, IS THAT YOU

674
00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:09,496
START JUMPING AHEAD TOO FAR AND

675
00:22:09,496 --> 00:22:10,897
"HOW IS IT GONNA TURN OUT?"

676
00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,765
DON'T JUMP AHEAD, OKAY?

677
00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:13,800
DON'T JUMP AHEAD.

678
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,535
STAY IN THE MOMENT.

679
00:22:15,535 --> 00:22:17,637
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE OUTSIDE.

680
00:22:24,877 --> 00:22:27,614
SO, THE LIQUOR BOTTLES ARE ALL

681
00:22:27,614 --> 00:22:28,415
HERE.

682
00:22:28,415 --> 00:22:30,583
>> THESE ARE LIQUOR BOTTLES.

683
00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:31,718
ALL UNDER THAT TABLE.

684
00:22:31,718 --> 00:22:33,420
THIS ENTIRE CLOSET IS FULL OF

685
00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:34,721
BAGS FULL OF LIQUOR BOTTLES.

686
00:22:34,721 --> 00:22:36,856
I'D SAY THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND

687
00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:38,691
WINE BOTTLES DOWNSTAIRS.

688
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:39,892
THAT'S NOT MY DOING.

689
00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:45,598
THAT'S MY FATHER'S DOING.

690
00:22:45,598 --> 00:22:47,834
IS THIS ALL ONE? NO, IT'S NOT.

691
00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:49,469
OH, MY GOD!

692
00:22:49,469 --> 00:22:50,803
I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS DOWN HERE.

693
00:22:50,803 --> 00:22:52,705
>> THIS IS, LIKE, THE BEGINNING

694
00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:53,806
OF A -- TERRY GREENLEE.

695
00:22:53,806 --> 00:22:54,807
>> [ LAUGHS ]

696
00:22:54,807 --> 00:22:58,745
>> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

697
00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:01,814
[ CLINK ]

698
00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:02,815
[ COUGHS ]

699
00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,784
[ Chuckling ] OH, MY GOD.

700
00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:05,685
>> JAKE?

701
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:07,754
>> WHAT?

702
00:23:07,754 --> 00:23:10,857
[ SIGHS ]

703
00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:12,859
ARE YOU [BLEEP] KIDDING ME?

704
00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:20,533
>> NO.

705
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:22,735
[ CLATTER ]

706
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,704
>> HOW DOES IT FEEL?

707
00:23:24,704 --> 00:23:26,873
>> IT FEELS GOOD, BUT IT'S

708
00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:29,776
REALLY DISTURBING TO SEE HOW

709
00:23:29,776 --> 00:23:30,677
MUCH.

710
00:23:30,677 --> 00:23:32,545
>> MM-HMM.

711
00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:33,680
>> [ SIGHS ]

712
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,515
>> YOU DID IT.

713
00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:36,749
MM! YOU DID IT, YOU DID IT, YOU

714
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:37,850
DID IT, YOU DID IT, YOU DID IT.

715
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:38,818
OKAY.

716
00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:40,587
>> THIS IS SO [BLEEP] SEEING,

717
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:40,853
LIKE --

718
00:23:40,853 --> 00:23:41,721
>> OKAY.

719
00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:42,989
>> THEY'RE, LIKE, EVIDENCE OF

720
00:23:42,989 --> 00:23:44,624
WHAT HE'S DONE AND...

721
00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:46,659
[ SIGHS ]

722
00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:47,994
IT WAS ABSTRACT BEFORE, BUT NOW

723
00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:49,829
IT'S, LIKE, SOLID AND CONTAINED.

724
00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:51,598
>> YEAH.

725
00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:51,864
IT STINKS.

726
00:23:51,864 --> 00:23:53,733
I MEAN, I CAN SMELL THE LIQUOR,

727
00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:55,768
I CAN SMELL THE FILTH.

728
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,670
AND THEN I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT

729
00:23:57,670 --> 00:23:59,472
IT WAS LIKE WHEN THE DRINKING

730
00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:00,740
WAS GOING ON.

731
00:24:04,711 --> 00:24:06,579
>> UM, THIS IS GARBAGE, BUT I

732
00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:07,814
HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME

733
00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:08,815
ACCEPTING THAT.

734
00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:10,717
I JUST -- LIKE, THIS IS SO MANY

735
00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:11,484
MEMORIES.

736
00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:12,852
>> MM-HMM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?

737
00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:14,821
THE MORE YOU FIND OUT THAT YOU

738
00:24:14,821 --> 00:24:16,656
CAN TOLERATE THIS, THE BETTER

739
00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:17,023
IT'S GONNA BE.

740
00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:18,491
OKAY, WHERE ARE WE NOW?

741
00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:19,626
>> [ Crying ] IN PAIN.

742
00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:20,893
>> OKAY, SO, WHERE DO YOU FEEL

743
00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:22,028
IT IN YOUR BODY?

744
00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:22,929
>> EVERYWHERE.

745
00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:23,863
MY WHOLE BODY JUST HURTS.

746
00:24:23,863 --> 00:24:24,931
>> NO, I WANT TO KNOW

747
00:24:24,931 --> 00:24:25,732
SPECIFICALLY.

748
00:24:25,732 --> 00:24:26,699
WHERE DO YOU FEEL IT?

749
00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:28,501
>> MY HEAD FEELS LIKE IT'S ABOUT

750
00:24:28,501 --> 00:24:28,901
TO EXPLODE.

751
00:24:28,901 --> 00:24:29,736
>> OKAY.

752
00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:30,903
>> IT'S LIKE THIS INTENSE

753
00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:31,804
POUNDING.

754
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:33,606
MY MOUTH IS GOING DRY.

755
00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:34,941
MY ARMS ARE GETTING WEAK.

756
00:24:34,941 --> 00:24:36,643
>> OKAY, DO YOU FEEL ANYTHING --

757
00:24:36,643 --> 00:24:37,744
>> IT'S JUST, LIKE, I USED TO

758
00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:38,778
PLAY THIS THING ALL THE TIME

759
00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:39,679
WHEN I WAS A KID.

760
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:40,913
>> I KNOW, AND YOU DON'T NOW.

761
00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:42,615
AND I REALLY -- I GET THAT.

762
00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:43,916
AND WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT

763
00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:45,785
WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU THREW IT

764
00:24:45,785 --> 00:24:45,985
OUT?

765
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:47,920
WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT

766
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,922
COULD HAPPEN?

767
00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:51,791
>> [ CHUCKLES ] REALISTICALLY?

768
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:52,559
>> YEAH.

769
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:52,892
>> NOTHING.

770
00:24:52,892 --> 00:24:53,793
>> RIGHT.

771
00:24:53,793 --> 00:24:57,930
THIS STUFF IS JUST A LIE.

772
00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,566
>> AND I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO

773
00:24:59,566 --> 00:24:59,999
PLAY IT AGAIN?

774
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:00,900
>> RIGHT.

775
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:02,669
>> I DON'T THINK -- I MEAN, LOOK

776
00:25:02,669 --> 00:25:02,902
AT THAT.

777
00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,003
IT'S CRACKED, IT'S --

778
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,838
>> YEAH. AND IF YOU NEVER PLAY

779
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:06,839
IT AGAIN, THEN WHAT?

780
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:07,940
WHY IS THAT SO AWFUL?

781
00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:08,975
[ PLASTIC CRACKS ]

782
00:25:08,975 --> 00:25:09,842
>> [ SIGHS ]

783
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:11,678
>> OH, YEAH. IN THE GARBAGE.

784
00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:12,879
IN THE GARBAGE.

785
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,781
>> [ Sighing ] OH.

786
00:25:14,781 --> 00:25:15,815
[ CHUCKLES ]

787
00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:17,950
>> AMAZING. AMAZING!

788
00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:19,686
>> I'M JUST GONNA DO THIS AS

789
00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:20,887
FAST AS I CAN, BEFORE I CHANGE

790
00:25:20,887 --> 00:25:22,755
MY MIND AND DECIDE I DON'T WANT

791
00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:24,891
TO DO THIS, BECAUSE...

792
00:25:24,891 --> 00:25:27,660
OKAY.

793
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:38,938
>> YOU'RE DOING IT ON YOUR OWN.

794
00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:40,707
YOU'RE DOING IT WITHOUT US

795
00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:41,974
HAVING TO PROCESS ANYTHING.

796
00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:46,946
>> [ BREATHING HEAVILY ]

797
00:25:46,946 --> 00:25:49,816
OKAY. [ CHUCKLES ]

798
00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:57,757
I'M JUST SEEING THINGS BREAK

799
00:25:57,757 --> 00:25:58,758
LEFT AND RIGHT.

800
00:25:58,758 --> 00:25:59,859
>> I KNOW, I KNOW.

801
00:25:59,859 --> 00:26:00,993
TAKE -- EVERYBODY STOP.

802
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:02,995
OKAY, STOP MOVING FOR ONE SEC.

803
00:26:02,995 --> 00:26:03,963
STOP MOVING.

804
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:04,964
>> CAN I GO OUTSIDE?

805
00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:06,733
'CAUSE I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS

806
00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:06,999
RIGHT NOW.

807
00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:08,635
>> YEAH, LET'S GO. COME ON.

808
00:26:08,635 --> 00:26:11,003
>> OKAY.

809
00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:12,605
>> I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S

810
00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:12,872
GOING ON.

811
00:26:12,872 --> 00:26:13,940
>> I'M FREAKING OUT.

812
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:14,974
>> YEAH, I -- COME ON.

813
00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:16,008
>> [ Voice breaking ] I TOLD YOU

814
00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:17,610
THAT WOULD BE THE ROOM THAT WAS

815
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:18,044
HARD FOR ME, AND...

816
00:26:18,044 --> 00:26:19,111
'CAUSE I JUST SAW, LIKE, CDs

817
00:26:19,111 --> 00:26:20,747
BEING BROKEN THAT THEY'RE BEING

818
00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:21,047
STEPPED ON.

819
00:26:21,047 --> 00:26:22,148
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WORTH

820
00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:22,949
THINKING ABOUT.

821
00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:24,150
I KNOW. IT'S JUST, LIKE, SO

822
00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:25,652
OVERWHELMING, YOU KNOW.

823
00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:26,953
>> THINK ABOUT -- OKAY, WHERE

824
00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,054
ARE YOU RIGHT NOW?

825
00:26:28,054 --> 00:26:28,888
>> 8.

826
00:26:28,888 --> 00:26:30,723
>> STOP. AN 8?

827
00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:31,123
>> [ WHIMPERING ]

828
00:26:31,123 --> 00:26:32,759
>> OKAY, OKAY, YOU'RE AT 8.

829
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:33,860
WAIT, WAIT. YOU WANT A HUG?

830
00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:34,093
>> YEAH.

831
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,828
>> OKAY, YOU'RE AT AN 8.

832
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:36,763
YOU'RE AT AN 8.

833
00:26:36,763 --> 00:26:40,066
YOU'VE BEEN AT 8 BEFORE.

834
00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:41,934
WHAT ARE YOU FEELING IN YOUR

835
00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:42,134
BODY?

836
00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:43,770
>> I WANT TO THROW UP.

837
00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:44,937
>> OKAY, THAT'S -- THAT MIGHT BE

838
00:26:44,937 --> 00:26:46,072
JUST FROM INHALING ALL THAT

839
00:26:46,072 --> 00:26:46,873
STUFF.

840
00:26:46,873 --> 00:26:47,940
>> NO, I WANT TO MAKE MYSELF

841
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:48,808
THROW UP.

842
00:26:48,808 --> 00:26:49,742
>> NO.

843
00:26:49,742 --> 00:26:50,977
>> YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

844
00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,011
>> IT'S SO WEIRD, KNOWING

845
00:26:52,011 --> 00:26:53,880
THERE'S PEOPLE TOUCHING MY STUFF

846
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,146
RIGHT NOW.

847
00:26:54,146 --> 00:26:55,882
>> DO YOU WANT THEM TO STOP?

848
00:26:55,882 --> 00:26:56,082
>> NO!

849
00:26:56,082 --> 00:26:57,884
I DON'T WANT THEM TO STOP, BUT I

850
00:26:57,884 --> 00:26:59,118
JUST DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS TO,

851
00:26:59,118 --> 00:27:00,953
LIKE, HAVE A REASON FOR

852
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:01,854
HAPPENING.

853
00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:02,989
YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT I NEVER

854
00:27:02,989 --> 00:27:04,791
HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS STUFF, SO

855
00:27:04,791 --> 00:27:05,992
THAT I NEVER HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE

856
00:27:05,992 --> 00:27:07,727
COME TOUCH MY STUFF.

857
00:27:07,727 --> 00:27:09,796
I GUESS I'M SAYING I WISH I HAD

858
00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:10,997
A DIFFERENT LIFE, BUT...

859
00:27:10,997 --> 00:27:12,899
[ CHUCKLES ]

860
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:15,835
OH, MY GOD.

861
00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,042
>> SHIRLEY AND BAILEY ARE THE

862
00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:24,944
TWO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE

863
00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:26,112
DEALING WITH -- 30 TO 50 CATS

864
00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:27,780
ESTIMATED.

865
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:28,815
AFTER WE'VE ASSESSED THE

866
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:29,916
ANIMALS, WE'RE GONNA START

867
00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:30,917
PUTTING THEM RIGHT ON OUR

868
00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:31,784
TRUCKS.

869
00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:32,985
MAKE SURE YOU CONTACT ME OR

870
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,921
ROBYN IF YOU FIND ANYTHING THAT

871
00:27:34,921 --> 00:27:36,122
WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, LIKE

872
00:27:36,122 --> 00:27:38,024
SKELETONS OR DEAD ANIMALS OR

873
00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:39,191
THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE

874
00:27:39,191 --> 00:27:43,730
AWARE OF.

875
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:48,835
>> LET'S GO!

876
00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:50,102
>> THIS MORNING, WE CAME AND WE

877
00:27:50,102 --> 00:27:51,938
TALKED TO SHIRLEY AND BAILEY

878
00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:53,706
ABOUT -- JUST STEP-BY-STEP ABOUT

879
00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:55,041
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TODAY.

880
00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:55,975
>> IT'S UPSETTING.

881
00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:57,243
I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO BE

882
00:27:57,243 --> 00:27:58,711
HERE WHEN THEY DO IT.

883
00:27:58,711 --> 00:27:59,946
THESE ARE THE CATS I'M TRYING TO

884
00:27:59,946 --> 00:28:01,113
KEEP.

885
00:28:04,984 --> 00:28:07,253
>> IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE ME AND

886
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,989
SHOW ME THE CATS IN THE CAGE.

887
00:28:09,989 --> 00:28:11,057
>> THERE'S THREE OF THEM.

888
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:12,258
THEY'RE THREE FEMALES.

889
00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:13,726
>> HOW MANY ARE IN HERE?

890
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:14,260
>> JUST ONE -- PHOEBE.

891
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:15,962
>> JUST ONE, AND ONE'S IN HERE?

892
00:28:15,962 --> 00:28:16,863
>> ONE'S IN THERE.

893
00:28:16,863 --> 00:28:18,130
>> SO YOU HAVE FIVE THAT ARE

894
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:18,965
CAPTURED?

895
00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:19,899
>> RIGHT.

896
00:28:19,899 --> 00:28:21,200
I HAVE A FIXED TOMCAT IN THE

897
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,969
GARAGE I WANT TO KEEP, TOO.

898
00:28:22,969 --> 00:28:24,170
>> IS HE THE ONLY CAT THAT

899
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:26,005
YOU'RE LOOKING TO KEEPING IN THE

900
00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:26,238
GARAGE?

901
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,007
>> NO, I WANT TO KEEP THE BOSS

902
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:28,875
OF THE GARAGE.

903
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,877
SUPPOSE I COULD COME UP WITH 14?

904
00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:31,911
BUT YOU WANT 12.

905
00:28:31,911 --> 00:28:33,279
>> YOU TAKE ON WHAT YOU CAN

906
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:33,980
HANDLE.

907
00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:34,814
>> OKAY.

908
00:28:34,814 --> 00:28:36,015
>> IF YOU CAN ONLY HANDLE SIX,

909
00:28:36,015 --> 00:28:37,083
THEN THAT'S PROBABLY BEST THAT

910
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,017
YOU KEEP SIX.

911
00:28:38,017 --> 00:28:38,818
>> RIGHT.

912
00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:40,186
>> IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HANDLE

913
00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:42,121
ONE OR TWO MORE, THEN AFTER YOUR

914
00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:43,956
HOUSE IS CLEANED UP AND STUFF

915
00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:45,758
LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN TALK

916
00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:46,993
ABOUT GETTING A PERMIT.

917
00:28:46,993 --> 00:28:48,961
>> MY CONCERN IS, I COULD USE --

918
00:28:48,961 --> 00:28:51,063
LIKE, INSTEAD OF 12, I COULD USE

919
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:53,933
LIKE 13.

920
00:28:56,803 --> 00:28:58,004
>> THEY'VE BEEN COOPERATIVE.

921
00:28:58,004 --> 00:28:59,205
THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT WE'RE

922
00:28:59,205 --> 00:29:01,007
GONNA HAVE IS THE AMOUNT OF CATS

923
00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:02,008
SHE WANTS TO KEEP.

924
00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:03,876
>> FEEDING ANIMALS IS SOMETHING

925
00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:05,111
I'D HAVE TO DO, NO MATTER WHAT,

926
00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:07,179
EVEN IF YOU PUT ME IN PRISON.

927
00:29:07,179 --> 00:29:09,782
MY ANXIETY LEVEL IS 1,000, AND I

928
00:29:09,782 --> 00:29:11,884
COULD HAVE A PANIC ATTACK, SO,

929
00:29:11,884 --> 00:29:15,988
OBVIOUSLY, I'M SCARED TO DEATH.

930
00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:17,890
>> SINCE THE ANIMALS ARE -- IT

931
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:19,191
COULD POSSIBLY TURN INTO AN

932
00:29:19,191 --> 00:29:21,160
ANIMAL-CRUELTY CASE, THE ANIMALS

933
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,062
ARE CONSIDERED EVIDENCE.

934
00:29:23,062 --> 00:29:24,230
THEY'RE GONNA GO INSIDE AND

935
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:25,898
START TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS.

936
00:29:25,898 --> 00:29:27,233
>> ALL RIGHT.

937
00:29:27,233 --> 00:29:28,935
>> WE ARE GONNA BRING OUR

938
00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:30,002
ANIMAL-CONTROL UNITS IN.

939
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,270
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BRING OUR

940
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:35,041
MOBILE HOSPITAL.

941
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:39,078
>> STRAIGHT BACK.

942
00:29:39,078 --> 00:29:41,280
>> WE'VE GOT FOUR TRAPS.

943
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,151
SET TWO UP HERE IN THE SHADE AND

944
00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:47,119
ONE BACK HERE IN THE BACK.

945
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,121
SHE DOES HAVE SOME CATS THAT SHE

946
00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,023
FEEDS OUTSIDE, SO WE SET SOME

947
00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:53,059
TRAPS OUTSIDE.

948
00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:54,260
WE'RE GONNA PUT A COUPLE TRAPS

949
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:55,962
IN THE ATTIC BECAUSE I KNOW

950
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:57,096
THERE'S CATS IN THE ATTIC.

951
00:29:57,096 --> 00:29:58,364
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA START

952
00:29:58,364 --> 00:29:59,966
TRYING TO CATCH CATS IN THE

953
00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:01,067
GARAGE FIRST.

954
00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:02,068
YOU SEE KITTENS?

955
00:30:02,068 --> 00:30:03,970
ONE OF THE GUYS WHO WAS UP THERE

956
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:05,304
SAID THEY'D SEEN SOME KITTENS UP

957
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:06,873
HERE.

958
00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:08,274
>> UNLESS THE MAMA TOOK THEM

959
00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:10,109
SOMEPLACE, THEY'RE NOT HERE,

960
00:30:10,109 --> 00:30:11,177
ALTHOUGH I GOT SKELETONS.

961
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:12,344
>> YOU DO HAVE SKELETONS UP

962
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:13,079
THERE NOW?

963
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:14,080
>> I DO HAVE SKELETONS.

964
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,048
I MEAN, YOU CAN SMELL THE FECES.

965
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:17,283
YOU CAN SMELL THE AMMONIA.

966
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,952
THE INSULATION UP HERE IS SO

967
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,088
RIPPED APART THAT WE DON'T KNOW

968
00:30:22,088 --> 00:30:24,891
WHAT'S IN IT AND RUN THROUGH IT.

969
00:30:24,891 --> 00:30:27,059
>> I DON'T SEE THEM UP HERE.

970
00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:28,094
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID -- THE

971
00:30:28,094 --> 00:30:29,361
HEAT -- THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN

972
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:30,162
SURVIVE UP HERE.

973
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:30,997
THERE'S NO WAY.

974
00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:32,364
>> THEY'RE NOT GONNA LAST LONG,

975
00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:34,100
NO.

976
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,102
>> UNTIL WE GET IN HERE AND WE

977
00:30:36,102 --> 00:30:37,904
START DIGGING THROUGH THIS

978
00:30:37,904 --> 00:30:39,305
STUFF, WE MAY FIND SOME DEAD

979
00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:40,172
KITTENS.

980
00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:42,108
I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GONNA FIND

981
00:30:42,108 --> 00:30:43,209
SOME DEAD KITTENS -- AT LEAST

982
00:30:43,209 --> 00:30:44,076
DEAD KITTENS.

983
00:30:44,076 --> 00:30:49,381
WE MAY FIND SOME DEAD ADULTS.

984
00:30:49,381 --> 00:30:51,017
>> THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.

985
00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:52,084
IT'S TAME. YOU CAN PICK HIM UP.

986
00:30:52,084 --> 00:30:55,054
[ KITTEN MEOWS ]

987
00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:56,088
THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT

988
00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:57,023
SHIRLEY WANTS.

989
00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:57,423
[ KITTEN MEOWS ]

990
00:30:57,423 --> 00:31:00,126
OH, YOU'RE DOING OKAY.

991
00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:02,028
NOW MAYBE GET THE ONE THAT'S A

992
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:03,129
FRIEND OF HIS.

993
00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:05,064
>> THANKFULLY, SHIRLEY DECIDED

994
00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,033
THAT SHE'S GONNA GO TO THE STORE

995
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:08,034
WHILE WE DO THIS.

996
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,135
>> SHIRLEY LEFT BECAUSE SHE

997
00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:11,303
KNOWS SHE'S GONNA LOSE IT.

998
00:31:11,303 --> 00:31:15,041
>> I JUST DID NOT WANT TO SEE MY

999
00:31:15,041 --> 00:31:16,375
ANIMALS GO.

1000
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:22,048
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.

1001
00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:23,349
>> THERE'S A LITTER OF KITTIES

1002
00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,952
OVER THERE.

1003
00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:26,318
>> OVER THERE?

1004
00:31:26,318 --> 00:31:28,154
>> AGAINST THE WALL.

1005
00:31:28,154 --> 00:31:29,255
>> OH, WAIT.

1006
00:31:29,255 --> 00:31:31,457
MaryLou, INSIDE THAT DRESSER,

1007
00:31:31,457 --> 00:31:32,959
THERE'S A BLACK ONE.

1008
00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:33,459
>> THAT'S THE ONE.

1009
00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:35,027
>> JUST LEAN FORWARD.

1010
00:31:35,027 --> 00:31:36,929
>> SHE HAS NO IDEA WHAT'S IN

1011
00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:37,196
HERE.

1012
00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:39,065
SHE KNOWS SHE HAS A COUPLE

1013
00:31:39,065 --> 00:31:41,167
TOMCATS WITH A BUNCH OF FEMALES.

1014
00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:43,069
MOST OF THEM IN HERE ARE FERAL,

1015
00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:44,236
AND IT'S GONNA BE THE HARDEST

1016
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:45,271
PLACE TO CATCH.

1017
00:31:45,271 --> 00:31:52,078
>> WE GOT IT.

1018
00:31:52,078 --> 00:31:53,079
>> HI, FELLA.

1019
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,380
>> OH, THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

1020
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,082
>> THIS IS THE KIND OF THING

1021
00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:57,283
SHIRLEY DIDN'T WANT TO WATCH.

1022
00:31:57,283 --> 00:31:58,284
>> HERE COMES ONE.

1023
00:31:58,284 --> 00:31:59,085
[ CLATTER ]

1024
00:31:59,085 --> 00:31:59,451
GOT HIM!

1025
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:01,087
>> GOOD LUCK.

1026
00:32:01,087 --> 00:32:02,388
>> OH! GOT HIM.

1027
00:32:02,388 --> 00:32:03,389
>> THAT'S PHOEBE.

1028
00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:05,091
>> HERE YOU GO. TAKE THAT.

1029
00:32:05,091 --> 00:32:06,392
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH BACK HERE.

1030
00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:08,127
>> THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO TO ME

1031
00:32:08,127 --> 00:32:09,228
IS THAT ALL THE ANIMALS -- ALL

1032
00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:10,997
OF THE CATS -- ARE GONNA HAVE TO

1033
00:32:10,997 --> 00:32:12,098
BE TAKEN.

1034
00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:13,299
AND THAT'S A REAL SCENARIO.

1035
00:32:13,299 --> 00:32:15,001
EVEN AN ALCOHOLIC OR A DRUG

1036
00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:16,268
ADDICT, YOU DON'T JUST CUT THEM

1037
00:32:16,268 --> 00:32:19,371
OFF IMMEDIATELY.

1038
00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:21,107
IF WE TAKE EVERYTHING, SHE'S

1039
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:22,308
GONNA REALLY, REALLY HIT

1040
00:32:22,308 --> 00:32:24,276
ROCK BOTTOM HARD.

1041
00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:34,320
O0 C1 P

1042
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,023
>> IT MAKES ME NERVOUS THINKING

1043
00:32:37,023 --> 00:32:39,025
THAT HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE

1044
00:32:39,025 --> 00:32:41,127
CLEANUP, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY,

1045
00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:43,129
HE HASN'T BEEN GOOD AT IT SO

1046
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:43,329
FAR.

1047
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:46,165
SO IT JUST MAKES ME NERVOUS THAT

1048
00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:48,334
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE OUTCOME

1049
00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:50,369
OF THIS IS NOTHING REALLY

1050
00:32:50,369 --> 00:32:52,971
HAPPENS.

1051
00:32:57,443 --> 00:32:59,545
>> IT JUST BECOMES MORE AND MORE

1052
00:32:59,545 --> 00:33:02,014
APPARENT TO ME HOW UNHEALTHY I

1053
00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:03,515
AM MENTALLY TO ALLOW THIS TO

1054
00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:06,152
HAPPEN.

1055
00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:07,153
UGH!

1056
00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:08,354
THAT ROTTEN-BEER SMELL IS SO

1057
00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:12,158
DISGUSTING.

1058
00:33:12,158 --> 00:33:14,260
UGH!

1059
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:15,494
>> I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW

1060
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,264
THERE'S FOOD CONTAINERS IN HERE.

1061
00:33:18,264 --> 00:33:20,299
>> PRETTY EASILY.

1062
00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:22,534
I EAT IN HERE SOMETIMES.

1063
00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:26,272
BETTER THAN EATING IN MY ROOM.

1064
00:33:26,272 --> 00:33:29,108
I HATE THIS. I HATE THIS.

1065
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:30,509
I [BLEEP] HATE THIS.

1066
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,511
I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

1067
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:34,280
OH, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.

1068
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,181
>> WHAT?

1069
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:37,183
>> IT'S JUST EVERYTHING IS GOING

1070
00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:37,383
AWAY.

1071
00:33:37,383 --> 00:33:39,118
>> IT NEEDS TO, DOESN'T IT?

1072
00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:40,086
>> I KNOW IT NEEDS TO.

1073
00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:43,289
I JUST DON'T LIKE IT.

1074
00:33:43,289 --> 00:33:47,293
I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS CONCEPT.

1075
00:33:47,293 --> 00:33:49,595
>> WHAT LEVEL ARE YOU AT?

1076
00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:51,430
>> 7, 7 1/2, 8 MAYBE.

1077
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:53,165
>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT, SO, YOU'VE

1078
00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:54,533
BEEN AT A 7, YOU'VE BEEN AT AN 8

1079
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:55,267
BEFORE.

1080
00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:56,535
>> IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S FIRE

1081
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:58,204
GOING THROUGH MY VEINS.

1082
00:33:58,204 --> 00:34:00,072
>> YOU'VE BEEN AT A 7 AND AN 8,

1083
00:34:00,072 --> 00:34:01,373
AND YOU KEPT MOVING.

1084
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,075
I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THIS WHEN

1085
00:34:03,075 --> 00:34:04,343
I'M GONE -- THAT YOU'VE BEEN

1086
00:34:04,343 --> 00:34:07,479
ABLE TO DO IT.

1087
00:34:07,479 --> 00:34:11,483
>> OH, GOD, THAT SMELL!

1088
00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:17,489
OH, GOD, THAT'S...

1089
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:18,357
I CAN'T GO BACK.

1090
00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:19,525
I CAN'T GO BACK TO HOARDING.

1091
00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:21,159
I CAN'T GO BACK TO HOARDING LIKE

1092
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:21,560
THIS AGAIN.

1093
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,562
I CAN'T.

1094
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:26,264
I'LL KILL MYSELF. I KNOW I WILL.

1095
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,373
>> OKAY, BE REALLY CAREFUL.

1096
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:35,507
HE'S, LIKE, RIGHT THERE.

1097
00:34:35,507 --> 00:34:38,177
>> I SEE HIM.

1098
00:34:43,649 --> 00:34:45,351
>> TYPICALLY, WHAT WE DO IS WE

1099
00:34:45,351 --> 00:34:46,552
GO INTO THE HOME AND WE TRY TO

1100
00:34:46,552 --> 00:34:48,120
ACCESS ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS

1101
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,188
THAT THE CATS CAN HIDE.

1102
00:34:49,188 --> 00:34:50,522
>> CLOSE IT.

1103
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,158
>> OH, GOT HIM.

1104
00:34:52,158 --> 00:34:53,359
>> SO, WHAT WE DID IS WE

1105
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:55,127
PROCEEDED TO THE BACK THREE

1106
00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:56,362
BEDROOMS.

1107
00:34:56,362 --> 00:34:57,596
THEN, IN THE PROCESS, STARTED

1108
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,265
FINDING THE CATS AND ENDED UP

1109
00:34:59,265 --> 00:35:01,567
GOING INTO THE LIVING-ROOM AREA.

1110
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:02,368
>> HOLD ON.

1111
00:35:02,368 --> 00:35:03,135
>> OH!

1112
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,371
IT'S SNAGGED, IT'S SNAGGED.

1113
00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:12,411
>> THE HOUSE IS PRETTY MUCH A

1114
00:35:12,411 --> 00:35:13,412
MESS RIGHT NOW.

1115
00:35:13,412 --> 00:35:14,646
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE

1116
00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:16,448
OF A MESS AS WE TRY TO COLLECT

1117
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:17,316
THEM.

1118
00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:19,218
>> WHOA!

1119
00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:21,187
[ RUMBLING ]

1120
00:35:21,187 --> 00:35:23,555
>> WE GOT HIM.

1121
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:25,257
>> IT'S EMOTIONALLY TOUGH

1122
00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:26,558
BECAUSE IT'S AFFECTED OUR

1123
00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:28,560
HEALTH, OUR PETS'.

1124
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,564
IT'S -- IT'S DRAINING.

1125
00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:34,233
>> FIRST OF ALL, IN THE GARAGE,

1126
00:35:34,233 --> 00:35:35,534
IT'S PROBABLY OVER 90 DEGREES IN

1127
00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:37,436
THERE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BE

1128
00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:39,338
EXTREMELY CAREFUL BECAUSE WE

1129
00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:41,207
FOUND WEEK-OLD KITTENS.

1130
00:35:41,207 --> 00:35:43,309
>> OH, I GOT A BUNCH OF BABIES

1131
00:35:43,309 --> 00:35:43,675
HERE.

1132
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:44,643
>> DO YOU?

1133
00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:46,312
>> LOOKS LIKE FOUR.

1134
00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:48,547
>> WE HAVE FOUND DEAD CATS, FROM

1135
00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:51,217
A WEEK OLD ALL THE WAY UP TO AN

1136
00:35:51,217 --> 00:35:51,650
ADULT CAT.

1137
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:54,520
>> IT'S ANOTHER WHOLE SKELETON

1138
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,521
OF A CAT.

1139
00:35:55,521 --> 00:35:57,323
IT'S, LIKE, THE ENTIRE REMAINS

1140
00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:58,224
OF A CAT.

1141
00:35:58,224 --> 00:35:59,458
>> THE DEAD CATS ARE JUST

1142
00:35:59,458 --> 00:36:00,426
EVERYWHERE.

1143
00:36:00,426 --> 00:36:02,328
WHEN YOU MOVE A BOX, YOU SEE A

1144
00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:04,263
BONE HERE AND A BONE THERE.

1145
00:36:04,263 --> 00:36:05,431
AND IT'S JUST COVERED IN CAT

1146
00:36:05,431 --> 00:36:06,232
FECES.

1147
00:36:06,232 --> 00:36:07,533
THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE 2 INCHES'

1148
00:36:07,533 --> 00:36:08,634
WORTH OF CAT FECES.

1149
00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:10,602
>> AND THIS IS NUMBER 11.

1150
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:11,637
THERE YOU GO, RIGHT THERE.

1151
00:36:11,637 --> 00:36:13,605
>> THAT'S A JUVENILE.

1152
00:36:13,605 --> 00:36:15,607
>> SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO

1153
00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,643
DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW MANY DEAD

1154
00:36:17,643 --> 00:36:19,478
CATS ARE IN THERE.

1155
00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:22,648
>> WE GOT -- WE GOT ONE...

1156
00:36:22,648 --> 00:36:24,383
NO, MAYBE IT'S JUST ONE.

1157
00:36:24,383 --> 00:36:25,651
>> I THINK THAT'S JUST AN ADULT

1158
00:36:25,651 --> 00:36:27,486
CAT.

1159
00:36:27,486 --> 00:36:30,289
>> HERE'S ANOTHER SKULL.

1160
00:36:30,289 --> 00:36:31,657
>> THERE'S THE RIB CAGE AND THE

1161
00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:33,425
BACKBONE, AND THERE'S THE OTHER

1162
00:36:33,425 --> 00:36:34,726
PART OF THAT CAT, RIGHT BACK

1163
00:36:34,726 --> 00:36:35,594
OVER THERE.

1164
00:36:35,594 --> 00:36:37,429
>> IN THE PROCESS OF REMOVING

1165
00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:39,365
TWO DEAD KITTENS THAT WERE FOUND

1166
00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:40,766
UNDERNEATH THE DOGHOUSE, WE

1167
00:36:40,766 --> 00:36:42,568
FOUND A NEST OF SMALL, POSSIBLY

1168
00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:44,403
8-WEEK-OLD LITTLE KITTENS LIVING

1169
00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:45,671
OUTSIDE THAT WERE FERAL.

1170
00:36:45,671 --> 00:36:47,573
>> JOE?

1171
00:36:47,573 --> 00:36:48,774
>> HEATHER, HAVE JOE BRING A

1172
00:36:48,774 --> 00:36:49,408
NET.

1173
00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:50,309
[ DOG BARKING ]

1174
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:51,643
WE GOT A BUNCH OF KITTENS OVER

1175
00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:56,415
HERE.

1176
00:36:56,415 --> 00:36:58,617
>> OH!

1177
00:37:03,755 --> 00:37:05,591
>> IS ANGEL IN HERE?

1178
00:37:05,591 --> 00:37:06,625
>> YES.

1179
00:37:06,625 --> 00:37:07,759
>> IF I CAN'T KEEP THE ONES IN

1180
00:37:07,759 --> 00:37:09,528
THE GARAGE, I WANT TO KEEP ALL

1181
00:37:09,528 --> 00:37:09,795
THESE.

1182
00:37:09,795 --> 00:37:11,797
>> WHEN SHIRLEY CAME HOME, SHE

1183
00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:14,366
WAS IMMEDIATELY GREETED WITH THE

1184
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,568
NEWS THAT 9 OF HER 10 CATS WERE

1185
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:17,669
GONNA BE PUT TO SLEEP --

1186
00:37:17,669 --> 00:37:19,371
OBVIOUSLY, NOT WHAT SHE THOUGHT

1187
00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:19,805
WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

1188
00:37:19,805 --> 00:37:21,673
>> OKAY, SO, ALL OF THESE

1189
00:37:21,673 --> 00:37:22,808
ANIMALS HAVE TO DIE.

1190
00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,676
>> SHIRLEY, IF WE DON'T, IT'S

1191
00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:25,777
CRUEL, BECAUSE THEY'RE

1192
00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:27,379
SUFFERING.

1193
00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:31,750
>> SO, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS FROM

1194
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:32,718
A HOARDING STANDPOINT.

1195
00:37:32,718 --> 00:37:34,353
SHE'S ALREADY TELLING ME, "I

1196
00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:35,487
STILL NEED TO GET UP IN THE

1197
00:37:35,487 --> 00:37:37,456
MORNING AND FEED THE CATS."

1198
00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:38,690
WELL, SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CATS

1199
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:39,558
TO FEED ANYMORE.

1200
00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:40,692
THERE'S NO CATS IN THE HOUSE.

1201
00:37:40,692 --> 00:37:41,760
>> I MIGHT HAVE A FEW TEARS

1202
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,596
THEN.

1203
00:37:44,596 --> 00:37:47,333
[ CAT MEOWS ]

1204
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:48,767
>> WE PULLED A TOTAL OF 76

1205
00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:51,303
ANIMALS OUT OF THE RESIDENCE.

1206
00:37:51,303 --> 00:37:53,305
35 OF THE ANIMALS WERE DEAD.

1207
00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:54,773
SOME OF THEM WERE SKELETONIZED.

1208
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:58,444
>> WELL, IT'S SAD -- VERY SAD,

1209
00:37:58,444 --> 00:38:02,381
'CAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE PETS.

1210
00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:04,716
WE'LL MISS THEM FOR SURE.

1211
00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:28,707
O0 C1 P

1212
00:38:28,707 --> 00:38:30,442
>> I'VE SEEN THESE ANIMALS

1213
00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:31,810
TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY

1214
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,479
ELSE HAS SEEN THEM.

1215
00:38:33,479 --> 00:38:34,746
THEY ALMOST WERE LIKE CHILDREN

1216
00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:36,615
TO ME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I

1217
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:38,484
KNEW AND THAT'S WHAT I TOOK CARE

1218
00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:39,851
OF, SO I KNOW I'M GONNA MISS

1219
00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:41,687
THEM FOR A WHILE AND I KNOW IT'S

1220
00:38:41,687 --> 00:38:44,423
GONNA BE VERY UPSETTING.

1221
00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:52,831
>> BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN, I

1222
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,766
DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL

1223
00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:55,767
BE ANY CHARGES FILED.

1224
00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:57,636
>> BAILEY AND SHIRLEY ARE VERY

1225
00:38:57,636 --> 00:38:58,870
COOPERATIVE AT THIS POINT, AND

1226
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,706
THEY SEEM TO BE WILLING TO GO

1227
00:39:00,706 --> 00:39:02,641
AND GET HELP.

1228
00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:06,712
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, THIS IS

1229
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:07,413
BAILEY.

1230
00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:08,414
HE'S THE HOMEOWNER.

1231
00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:09,515
WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE DOORS.

1232
00:39:09,515 --> 00:39:10,682
THE SMELL IS GONNA BE A LITTLE

1233
00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:11,450
AGGRESSIVE.

1234
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:12,618
WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN EVERYTHING

1235
00:39:12,618 --> 00:39:13,485
OUT OF THERE.

1236
00:39:13,485 --> 00:39:14,620
IF YOU GOT TO THROW UP OR

1237
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:15,721
ANYTHING, DO IT OUTSIDE,

1238
00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:16,488
OBVIOUSLY.

1239
00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:22,728
ALL RIGHT? THAT'S IT.

1240
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:24,630
>> LAST NIGHT WAS PRETTY BAD.

1241
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:26,532
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO LOSE THAT

1242
00:39:26,532 --> 00:39:27,533
MANY ANIMALS.

1243
00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:29,535
MY STRESS LEVEL IS AROUND A 10.

1244
00:39:29,535 --> 00:39:30,802
BUT, FORTUNATELY, I HAVE

1245
00:39:30,802 --> 00:39:32,571
MEDICATION FOR THAT, SO I TOOK

1246
00:39:32,571 --> 00:39:33,839
IT BEFORE I CAME OUT HERE.

1247
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:35,741
>> AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GET UP

1248
00:39:35,741 --> 00:39:37,643
AND FEED THEM THIS MORNING, SO

1249
00:39:37,643 --> 00:39:39,545
THAT'S -- IT'S KIND OF A RELIEF

1250
00:39:39,545 --> 00:39:41,513
TO ME.

1251
00:39:41,513 --> 00:39:42,781
SHIRLEY MISSES THEM, OF COURSE.

1252
00:39:42,781 --> 00:39:43,949
>> HOW ARE YOU FEELING,

1253
00:39:43,949 --> 00:39:45,751
LOOKING -- WATCHING THESE BOYS

1254
00:39:45,751 --> 00:39:46,818
CLEAN OUT YOUR GARAGE?

1255
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:47,686
>> GREAT.

1256
00:39:47,686 --> 00:39:48,854
>> IT'S A GOOD FEELING?

1257
00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:49,855
>> OH, OF COURSE.

1258
00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:51,690
I NEEDED IT DONE.

1259
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:53,492
>> TYPICALLY, HOARDERS HAVE A

1260
00:39:53,492 --> 00:39:54,893
HUGE EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THE

1261
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:55,727
STUFF.

1262
00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:57,563
THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS

1263
00:39:57,563 --> 00:39:57,796
STUFF.

1264
00:39:57,796 --> 00:39:59,565
THEIR PROBLEM WAS, THEY'RE

1265
00:39:59,565 --> 00:40:00,932
OLDER, THE CATS GOT OUT OF HAND,

1266
00:40:00,932 --> 00:40:05,804
PERIOD.

1267
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:07,739
THIS IS A BABY HERE.

1268
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,708
BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS.

1269
00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:11,677
GOT A LITTLE SKULL.

1270
00:40:11,677 --> 00:40:12,811
WE'LL START BAGGING.

1271
00:40:12,811 --> 00:40:15,614
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE.

1272
00:40:15,614 --> 00:40:17,583
HERE'S A SECOND ONE, HERE.

1273
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:18,817
SO, WE'RE GONNA SEE -- WE'RE

1274
00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,719
GONNA SEE A LOT OF BABIES DOWN

1275
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:20,919
HERE.

1276
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,854
>> YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE LITTLE

1277
00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,590
DEAD KITTIES YOU FOUND WERE

1278
00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:25,924
FERAL CATS THAT CAME IN AND HAD

1279
00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:27,793
KITTIES AND WALKED OFF AND LEFT

1280
00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:28,860
THEM.

1281
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,763
>> I GOT ANOTHER CAT.

1282
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:34,900
THIS GUY WAS LITERALLY ON A BOX.

1283
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,602
YOU CAN SEE WHERE HE'S -- I

1284
00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:37,869
MEAN, LITERALLY, IT'S A SQUARE.

1285
00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:38,904
THAT'S LIKE 5 IN THE LAST

1286
00:40:38,904 --> 00:40:41,740
5 MINUTES, WOULDN'T YOU SAY?

1287
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:42,708
>> OH!

1288
00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:43,842
>> IS THAT A LIVE ONE?

1289
00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:44,643
>> SPRAYED.

1290
00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:45,811
HE'S ALIVE, MY FRIENDS.

1291
00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:47,646
HE IS ALIVE.

1292
00:40:47,646 --> 00:40:48,780
HE SPRAYED. WHOO!

1293
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,482
>> WHOO!

1294
00:40:50,482 --> 00:40:51,717
GREAT.

1295
00:40:51,717 --> 00:40:52,818
>> THERE HE GOES.

1296
00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:53,885
>> NOW, CLEAR THAT AREA.

1297
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,654
>> CLEAR THEM OUT. HE'S COMING.

1298
00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:58,624
[ WHISTLES ]

1299
00:40:58,624 --> 00:41:01,727
GET IT. THERE YOU GO, BUDDY.

1300
00:41:01,727 --> 00:41:02,761
THIS IS NUMBER 6.

1301
00:41:02,761 --> 00:41:03,829
THIS IS JUST THE HEAD.

1302
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:05,797
THIS IS A FULL-GROWN.

1303
00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:08,567
WE GOT A BUNCH OF DEAD CATS.

1304
00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:10,836
WE'LL KEEP SEEING THEM.

1305
00:41:16,041 --> 00:41:17,709
>> IT'S HEARTWRENCHING.

1306
00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:18,910
YOU JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT I

1307
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:20,712
WENT THROUGH WHEN I LEARNED

1308
00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:21,847
THAT...

1309
00:41:21,847 --> 00:41:23,882
BECAUSE I WASN'T TAKING CARE OF

1310
00:41:23,882 --> 00:41:25,016
THEM SO THEY COULD DIE.

1311
00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:26,885
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAVE

1312
00:41:26,885 --> 00:41:28,787
THEM FROM.

1313
00:41:33,925 --> 00:41:34,893
>> LET'S GO.

1314
00:41:34,893 --> 00:41:37,596
ANYTHING REVOLVING AROUND MY DOG

1315
00:41:37,596 --> 00:41:39,931
IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT FOR

1316
00:41:39,931 --> 00:41:42,701
ME TO DEAL WITH.

1317
00:41:42,701 --> 00:41:43,869
[ SIGHS ]

1318
00:41:43,869 --> 00:41:44,936
GETTING RID OF THE DOG HAIR IS

1319
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,672
DEFINITELY GONNA BE THE HARDEST

1320
00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:48,039
THING FOR ME.

1321
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:49,708
TO MAKE MY DOG'S LIFE BETTER, I

1322
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:50,842
HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT MY

1323
00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:51,910
BRAIN TELLS ME IS KILLING MY

1324
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:54,980
DOG.

1325
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:59,818
[ SOBBING ]

1326
00:41:59,818 --> 00:42:01,920
I JUST WANT HER -- THE LAST

1327
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,989
COUPLE YEARS OF HER LIFE TO BE

1328
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:06,692
THE BEST YEARS SHE'S EVER HAD,

1329
00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:10,696
BECAUSE I OWE IT TO HER.

1330
00:42:10,696 --> 00:42:12,063
IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT WILL

1331
00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:13,832
SERIOUSLY JUST TAKE ME DOWN,

1332
00:42:13,832 --> 00:42:16,635
IT'S THIS.

1333
00:42:27,846 --> 00:42:29,981
>> SO, THIS IS THE FINAL HURDLE.

1334
00:42:29,981 --> 00:42:31,883
YOU ARE SO CLOSE.

1335
00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,919
SO CLOSE TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU

1336
00:42:33,919 --> 00:42:35,821
WANTED DAYS AGO, WHEN I FIRST

1337
00:42:35,821 --> 00:42:37,689
MET YOU, WHICH IS CLEAR SLATE.

1338
00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:37,923
>> YEAH.

1339
00:42:37,923 --> 00:42:39,124
>> AND A CLEAR SLATE -- YOU CAN

1340
00:42:39,124 --> 00:42:40,792
WRITE ANYTHING YOU WANT ON IT.

1341
00:42:40,792 --> 00:42:41,693
>> [ CHUCKLES ]

1342
00:42:41,693 --> 00:42:44,062
>> SO LET'S -- LET'S START.

1343
00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:47,032
IF YOU CAN DO THIS -- CLEAR THIS

1344
00:42:47,032 --> 00:42:49,801
OFF -- THAT'S GRADUATION.

1345
00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:50,936
>> REALLY? [ CHUCKLES ]

1346
00:42:50,936 --> 00:42:51,870
>> THAT'S GRADUATION.

1347
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:53,705
>> IT'S LIKE I'M DOING IT FOR

1348
00:42:53,705 --> 00:42:54,039
HER, YOU KNOW?

1349
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:55,841
[ Voice breaking ] I JUST DON'T

1350
00:42:55,841 --> 00:42:56,842
WANT HER TO LIVE IN A BAD

1351
00:42:56,842 --> 00:42:57,909
SITUATION ANYMORE.

1352
00:42:57,909 --> 00:42:59,811
>> YEAH, THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU

1353
00:42:59,811 --> 00:43:00,145
LOVE HER.

1354
00:43:00,145 --> 00:43:01,847
>> [ SNIFFLES ]

1355
00:43:01,847 --> 00:43:04,149
>> IT SHOWS HOW BRAVE YOU ARE.

1356
00:43:04,149 --> 00:43:05,917
THAT'S LOVE.

1357
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:07,953
>> I LOVE HER SO MUCH.

1358
00:43:07,953 --> 00:43:09,955
>> MM-HMM.

1359
00:43:09,955 --> 00:43:12,758
>> [ SNIFFLES ]

1360
00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:15,060
[ SIGHS ]

1361
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:16,962
THIS IS HELPING HER BREATHING,

1362
00:43:16,962 --> 00:43:18,163
THIS IS HELPING MY BREATHING.

1363
00:43:18,163 --> 00:43:19,130
>> OH, MY GOSH.

1364
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:20,131
>> [ CHUCKLES ]

1365
00:43:20,131 --> 00:43:21,833
YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS ALL

1366
00:43:21,833 --> 00:43:22,067
[BLEEP]

1367
00:43:22,067 --> 00:43:23,869
THIS IS ALL TOTAL [BLEEP]

1368
00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:24,936
>> YOU ARE AMAZING.

1369
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:26,905
>> THIS IS ALL SUCH [BLEEP]

1370
00:43:26,905 --> 00:43:28,807
I CAN'T EVEN -- THIS ISN'T MY

1371
00:43:28,807 --> 00:43:29,007
DOG.

1372
00:43:29,007 --> 00:43:30,008
THIS IS DEAD.

1373
00:43:30,008 --> 00:43:31,176
THIS IS DEAD HAIR.

1374
00:43:31,176 --> 00:43:32,911
IT'S NOTHING.

1375
00:43:32,911 --> 00:43:34,713
I'M SO DOWN WITH DOING THIS

1376
00:43:34,713 --> 00:43:35,080
RIGHT NOW.

1377
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,815
[ SNIFFLES ]

1378
00:43:36,815 --> 00:43:40,819
I'M SO OKAY RIGHT NOW.

1379
00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:41,920
I'M SO OKAY RIGHT NOW.

1380
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,888
[ SNIFFLES ]

1381
00:43:42,888 --> 00:43:43,955
I MEAN, I'M NOT, BUT I'M OKAY.

1382
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:44,823
I'M OKAY.

1383
00:43:44,823 --> 00:43:46,925
>> MM-HMM.

1384
00:43:46,925 --> 00:43:48,927
WHAT JAKE ACHIEVED WAS

1385
00:43:48,927 --> 00:43:51,162
PHENOMENAL, AND IT WAS HUGE

1386
00:43:51,162 --> 00:43:52,964
PROGRESS FORWARD.

1387
00:43:52,964 --> 00:43:54,933
BUT, AS I SAY, WHEN I WORK WITH

1388
00:43:54,933 --> 00:43:57,002
ADDICTS, YOU KNOW, ALL ADDICTS

1389
00:43:57,002 --> 00:43:58,970
HAVE A BIG SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT

1390
00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:00,839
ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE THEIR

1391
00:44:00,839 --> 00:44:02,874
BEHAVIOR -- YOU KNOW, THE OTHER

1392
00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:04,943
PEOPLE SORT OF IN THIS PLAY

1393
00:44:04,943 --> 00:44:06,678
THAT'S HIS LIFE HAVEN'T BEEN

1394
00:44:06,678 --> 00:44:06,945
AROUND.

1395
00:44:06,945 --> 00:44:08,880
>> MY DAD'S GONNA FLIP OUT

1396
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,982
PROBABLY.

1397
00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:12,784
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALL

1398
00:44:12,784 --> 00:44:14,219
BENEFICIAL TO HIM, EVEN, HE

1399
00:44:14,219 --> 00:44:16,087
DOESN'T WANT IT HAPPENING.

1400
00:44:16,087 --> 00:44:17,956
HE WOULD PREFER TO STAY IN THE

1401
00:44:17,956 --> 00:44:19,991
MESS, I THINK.

1402
00:44:19,991 --> 00:45:05,703
O0 C1 P