>> I WOULD NOT CLASSIFY MYSELF
AS A HOARDER.
I CONSIDER MYSELF MORE OF A
SAVER, A RESCUER OF THINGS.
>> TO ME, IT'S STUFF VERSUS
RELATIONSHIPS.
>> YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE
COMMITTING TO NOT HELPING YOU
ANYMORE.
>> WE PROMISED EACH OTHER YOU
WOULD NOT [BLEEP] THIS ROOM UP.
>> THIS IS NOT THE WAY PEOPLE
LIVE.
NOTHING HAS A HOME.
IT WAS A LITTLE OVERWHELMING.
NO, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TAKE
THE TIME FOR THAT.
NO, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT
THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> SHE DOESN'T REALIZE SHE'S
HURTING HERSELF.
>> YOU HAVE TO LET IT GO,
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, IT WILL
SWALLOW YOU UP.
>> I AM BETTY.
I'M 68 YEARS OLD.
I WAS THE GARBAGEMAN'S DAUGHTER.
HE'D BRING HOME LUMBER AND
CLOTHES AND FURNITURE AND JUST
EVERYTHING.
THE KIDS AT SCHOOL USED TO TEASE
ME ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS A BIG
ISSUE, BUT...IT WAS HOME.
AND THIS...
BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE
BECAUSE I HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT
ANYTHING.
>> I'M CHARLES, BETTY'S HUSBAND.
WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 46 YEARS.
>> MY HUSBAND WAS AN ALCOHOLIC.
AND HE WOULD DRINK AND SMOKE,
AND I DID NEITHER -- NEVER DID.
HE'S BEEN IN AND OUT OF OUR
LOCAL MENTAL FACILITY FOR
SCHIZOPHRENIA.
I WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH THAT.
BUT I STILL LOVE HIM, AND WE'RE
STILL MARRIED, AND WE PRODUCED
FIVE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN -- FOUR
GIRLS AND A BOY.
>> STAN -- I'M BETTY'S SON.
I'M GONNA CALL IT IN THE LAST
10, 15 YEARS SHE REALLY STARTED
LETTING THINGS GO DOWNHILL.
>> THE ONLY THING THAT BROUGHT
ME HAPPINESS WAS TO BUY STUFF.
>> YOU HAD THE ALCOHOLISM, AND
YOU HAD THE MENTAL ILLNESS.
SO MOM DOESN'T GET TO ENJOY HER
RETIREMENT.
SHE GETS TO TAKE CARE OF A SICK,
OLD MAN.
THIS IS HER REBELLION OF, "WELL,
IF I CAN'T GO OUT TO DO THIS AND
GO HAVE FUN IN YOSEMITE, I'M
GONNA GO TO A YARD SALE, AND I'M
GONNA BUY FOUR TONS OF [BLEEP]
THAT NOBODY NEEDS."
>> I SUPPOSE IN THE BACK OF MY
MIND THAT I FELT THAT IF HE EVER
LEFT OR DISAPPEARED OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, I WOULD HAVE WHAT I
NEEDED TO CONTINUE LIFE.
>> PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME WHEN I
WOULD BUY STUFF AT SALES, "DO
YOU BUY STUFF TO RESELL?"
NO, I DON'T. I BOUGHT IT TO USE.
99% OF THE THINGS THAT I OWN
HAVE COME FROM A RUMMAGE SALE,
YARD SALE, GARAGE SALE, ALONG
THE STREET, GOODWILL.
I'VE STOPPED AT MORE THAN ONE
TRASH PILE AND PICKED STUFF OUT
OF IT.
>> I'M MICHELLE, AND I'M BETTY'S
DAUGHTER.
MY MOM'S HOME THAT SHE'S
CURRENTLY LIVING IN IS WHAT I
WOULD CONSIDER AN ABSOLUTE
DISASTER AREA.
NO ONE SHOULD BE LIVING IN THE
HOME.
IT'S NOT SAFE.
IT'S NOT SANITARY.
IT IS A STOCKPILE FOR EVERYTHING
UNDER THE SUN.
>> I'M LIKE MY MOM.
I'VE GOT THE BUG NOW.
IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE, I'VE
GOT IT NOW, I THINK.
IF I BUY SOMETHING, IT'S HAD TO
HAVE GIVEN ME A THRILL OR IT WAS
PLEASING TO ME IN SOME WAY.
AND FOR THAT REASON, I COLLECT
IT, OR HOARD IT.
>> WE TOOK POSSESSION OF THE
HOUSE IN JUNE -- OR JUNE 1st --
AND SEPTEMBER 29th, IT CAUGHT
FIRE.
IT WAS CLUTTERED, AS IT IS NOW.
>> THE STORY I GOT, AND WHAT THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH IS,
TRIESTE WAS SMOKING IN THE
HOUSE, AND THAT'S HOW IT
STARTED.
>> I ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE AND
FOUND OUT THAT MY FATHER WAS NOT
BREATHING.
AND THE SQUAD CAME, AND THEY
COULDN'T GET A GURNEY IN TO GET
HIM, SO THEY HAD TO CARRY HIM
OUT.
>> THEY WERE HERE AND SAW IT AND
REPORTED IT.
>> ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES HAS
BECOME INVOLVED.
THE CONDITIONS ARE SUCH THAT MY
FATHER, GIVEN HIS HEALTH, IS NOT
ABLE TO BE IN THE HOME.
[ SNIFFLES ]
>> IT'S AN ACCESS THING.
>> I'VE BEEN OUT OF MY HOME FOR
ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
>> I'VE RUN OUT OF MONEY AND
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR
ANY MORE MOTEL STAY.
UH, I NEED -- I NEED HELP.
>> MY NAME IS TARA SMITH, AND I
MOVED HERE IN ABOUT 2003.
OH, THERE'S THE INFORMATION.
I KNEW I HAD IT SOMEWHERE.
WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN, IT WAS
JUST MOSTLY BOXES 'CAUSE I WAS
MOVING IN.
EVERYTHING WAS PACKED.
THEN WE TRIED TO UNPACK IT, BUT
THEN EVERYTHING JUST GOT PUT
WHEREVER.
IT GOT TO WHERE THERE WAS TOO
MUCH STUFF BECAUSE THE WHOLE
GARAGE WAS FILLED.
AND THEN THE SECOND BEDROOM GOT
FILLED, SO I GOT NERVOUS, AND I
RENTED ANOTHER LITTLE STORAGE.
BUT AS YOU PUT THINGS IN BOXES,
NOTHING HAD A HOME.
MY MOTHER, SHE HAD A ONE-BEDROOM
APARTMENT.
WE ALL SLEPT IN THE SAME BED,
AND IT WAS JUST REALLY CROWDED.
IT WAS JUST A LOT OF STUFF.
I GUESS I THOUGHT THAT WAS
NORMAL.
EVEN THOUGH I HATED IT, I THINK
I CARRIED THAT, ALSO, INTO MY
YOUNG ADULT WHEN I GOT MY FIRST
LITTLE APARTMENT.
I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW A HOUSE
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND THEN I THINK ONLY JUST IN
THIS LAST MAYBE 10, LESS THAN 15
YEARS, I REALIZED THAT THIS IS
NOT THE WAY PEOPLE LIVE.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS A HOME,
AND IN MY CASE, NOTHING HAS A
HOME.
I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO ORGANIZE.
I JUST KNOW EVERYTHING GOES IN A
BOX.
THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
>> I'M ROCHELLE MAURER, AND I'M
A FIRE INSPECTOR WITH THE
TORRANCE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
HOARDING IS HUGE.
IT'S VERY EPIDEMIC.
WE'RE SEEING QUITE A FEW CASES,
AT LEAST ONE TO TWO A WEEK, THAT
WE GET CALLS ON FOR THE HOARDERS
OR PACK RATS OR CONCERNS FROM
NEIGHBORS OR FAMILY MEMBERS.
>> SOMEONE DID CALL ON ME.
IN ALL THE YEARS THAT I'VE EVER
LIVED IN A PLACE, I'VE NEVER HAD
ANYBODY EVER CALL ON ME.
AND, SUPPOSEDLY, THEY CAME, AND
THEY LOOKED IN THE WINDOW.
I WAS CRUSHED.
I HAD SUCH A PANIC.
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE IF JESUS CAME
TO THE DOOR, I COULDN'T OPEN THE
DOOR BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN
SO ASHAMED.
I WOULD HAVE FELT LIKE I WASN'T
SHOWING GRATEFULNESS AND
APPRECIATIVENESS.
[ SOBS ]
>> MY NAME IS GINA VELASQUEZ,
AND I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH TARA
FOR 16 YEARS NOW.
TARA LOVES COLLECTIBLES, AND IF
SOMETHING SAYS "LIMITED EDITION"
OR "1 OF 40," SHE MAKES SURE
THAT SHE DOES EVERYTHING SHE CAN
TO COLLECT ALL OF THEM.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT IS A TRAP
FOR HER.
>> I WOULD COLLECT McDONALD'S.
I LOVE McDONALD'S SPECIAL TOYS.
OH, AND I DO COLLECT NATIVITY
SCENES, SO I DO HAVE A BUNCH OF
THOSE.
>> SHE'S GOT EASTER, SHE'S GOT
HALLOWEEN, SHE'S GOT
MOTHER'S DAY STUFF THAT SHE'S
COLLECTED ALONG THE WAY.
SHE COLLECTS CARTOON STRIPS FROM
THE NEWSPAPER, AND IF YOU THROW
IT AWAY, IT ROCKS HER WORLD.
>> [ SNIFFLES ]
I HAVE A LOVE FOR TEDDY BEARS.
[ CHUCKLES ]
IT'S A DOLLAR, AND IT'S CUTE.
HE HAS A CUTE FACE, AND IT SAYS,
"WILD ABOUT YOU."
AND I DO -- I LOVE HIM.
AS A CHILD, THAT WAS THE ONE
THING THAT I HAD THAT I COULD
SOMETIMES SHARE MY SECRETS WITH
AND I COULD CRY.
IT TAKES ALL YOUR PAIN AND YOUR
HURT AND YOUR TEARS, AND IT
DOESN'T CARE.
BUT IT HOLDS THEM ALL SAFE FOR
YOU.
AND I JUST WOULD COLLECT THE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEARS, AND
YOU CAN'T HAVE AN OVERABUNDANCE,
AND SO I THINK I MIGHT HAVE HAD
A LITTLE TOO MANY.
WHEN YOU CARE ABOUT SOMETHING,
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DISPLAY IT.
BUT THIS IS NOT DISPLAYING IT IF
IT'S JUST AMONGST YOUR CLUTTER.
NOTHING HAS A HOME.
NOTHING -- NOTHING...
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE KIND OF
OUT -- OUT.
IT'S JUST THERE FOR PEOPLE TO
SEE.
>> I WOULD NOT CLASSIFY MYSELF
AS A HOARDER.
I CONSIDER MYSELF MORE OF A
SAVER, A RESCUER OF THINGS.
I'M SURE MY CHILDREN WOULD SAY
I'M A HOARDER.
I ALREADY KNOW THAT MICHELLE
THINKS I'M ONE.
>> IF MY MOTHER'S NOT DEFINED AS
A HOARDER, I DON'T KNOW WHO
WOULD BE.
>> DAD CAN'T LIVE THERE.
MOM SHOULDN'T LIVE THERE,
TRIESTE SHOULDN'T LIVE THERE.
THE ANIMALS SHOULDN'T BE FORCED
TO LIVE THERE...
[ CAT MEOWS ]
...IN THE CONDITION THAT IT'S
IN.
[ CAT MEOWS ]
>> I KNOW MOM DID THE BEST SHE
COULD, BUT I JUST WISH IT COULD
HAVE BEEN BETTER.
LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> THEY'RE NOT KIDDING WHEN THEY
SEND A LETTER THAT SAYS YOU NEED
TO CLEAN UP YOUR YARD AND YOU'RE
VIOLATING A CITY ORDINANCE.
>> I'M SURE SHE FEELS THAT IT
WILL CONTINUE.
AND SHE'S NOT TOTALLY WRONG IN
THAT BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU
THAT I WILL NOT GIVE UP GOING TO
YARD SALES OR RUMMAGE SALES OR
FLEA MARKETS BECAUSE IT'S FUN, I
GET ENJOYMENT OUT OF IT, AND I
HAVE VERY LITTLE IN LIFE TO
ENJOY.
[ KNOCK ON DOOR ]
>> HELLO.
>> BETTY, IT'S DOROTHY.
GOOD TO MEET YOU.
>> GOOD TO MEET YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
COME.
I AM DOROTHY BREININGER, AND I'M
AN EXPERT ON HOARDING.
IF YOU HAD A LIVING ROOM THAT
WAS JUST COMPLETELY CLEAR AND
FINALLY DECORATED, DOES THAT
APPEAL TO YOU, OR THIS SOMETHING
MORE COMFORTABLE?
>> IF I COULD HAVE THE HOUSE ANY
WAY I WANTED IT, IT WOULD LOOK
MUCH MORE NORMAL.
I HAVE A RUG THAT WE GOT AT AN
AUCTION, UPSTAIRS, ROLLED UP,
READY TO COME IN.
WELL, I GUESS THAT I'D WANT TO
PUT THE SEWING MACHINE IN FRONT
OF THE WINDOWS, WHERE I CAN SIT
THERE AND SEW.
WE'VE GOT A REALLY NICE
QUEEN-SIZE MATTRESS THAT I GOT
FOR 200 BUCKS.
IT'S GOING TO GO IN THE BEDROOM.
TRIM AROUND THE TOP, AND I MAY
PUT A BORDER AROUND HERE.
I'VE GOT A GOOD PLAN.
THAT'S ONE REASON I RESENT THIS
ORGANIZER THING, BUT I'M WILLING
TO GO ALONG WITH IT 'CAUSE SHE
MAY HAVE IDEAS THAT I HADN'T
THOUGHT OF OR WOULD BE ABLE TO
USE.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING SHE
SUGGESTS THAT I WOULD JUST SAY
NO TO.
>> LIKE, DO WE CLEAR THIS OUT,
OR ARE YOU FOLKS USING IT?
>> IT'S PERFUMES, LOTIONS...
>> YEAH.
>> ...STUFF THAT I'D WANTED TO
SAVE.
[ SIGHS ]
GIVEN THE SITUATION, I'M GOING
TO HAVE TO ACCEPT WHATEVER SHE
SUGGESTS.
BUT IT IS RESENTFUL TO ME TO
FINALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A
SITUATION WHERE I CAN HAVE WHAT
I WANT AND DO WHAT I WANT AND
THEN HAVE TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO
AND HOW TO DO IT.
IT'S NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY, IT'S
NOT IN THE ROAD, NOBODY HAS TO
WALK AROUND IT.
>> YOU KNOW, BETTY WANTS TO BE
IN CONTROL, AND I'M STEPPING IN,
WANTING TO HAVE CONTROL.
BUT I KNOW I CAN'T.
THEN YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE DON'T HAVE TO ARGUE.
YOU'RE CORRECT.
SHE'S GOING TO CALL THE SHOTS.
I'M GOING TO ASK PERMISSION A
LOT.
I JUST AGREED WITH YOU.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EVEN DEFEND IT
ANOTHER MINUTE.
THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO
CONVINCE BETTY THAT SHE NEEDS TO
THROW SOMETHING AWAY.
SHE DOES NOT WANT ME TO HAVE
THAT KIND OF SAY, AND I HAVE TO
HONOR THAT.
COULD YOU PICK OUT FIVE ITEMS
THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER LETTING
GO OF?
>> WELL, IT'S MOSTLY JUNK, LIKE
NEWSPAPERS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF
CLOTHES -- JUST ITEMS THAT SHE
WANTS TO KEEP.
>> HIS SOLUTION WOULD BE JUST TO
THROW EVERYTHING AWAY AND NOT
SAVE WHAT IS VALUABLE OR
SENTIMENTAL OR USEFUL.
DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT
IT IS, WHAT IT MEANT TO ME --
OUT IT GOES.
>> IT'S WORTH SOMETHING, BUT IT
AIN'T WORTH GOING TO JAIL OR
GETTING FINED OVER.
>> I KNOW THAT BETTY AND CHARLIE
HAVE HAD A HISTORY THAT HAS BEEN
VERY DIFFICULT AND VERY
PAINFUL.
AND HERE IT IS COURT-ORDERED
THAT SHE'S GOT TO CLEAN UP THE
HOUSE SO THAT SHE CAN BRING HER
HUSBAND HOME.
AND I WONDER, DOES SHE WANT TO?
READY FOR A BIG DAY?
>> OH, GOD, I JUST CAN'T HARDLY
WAIT.
>> IS THAT REAL, OR IS THAT
SARCASM?
>> THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF
SARCASM.
>> OKAY. GREAT.
[ LAUGHS ]
>> AND I REALLY AM GOING TO BE
MORE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT I
WANT AND WHAT I WANT TO KEEP AND
WHAT I WANT TO SAVE THAN
PROBABLY I EVER HAVE BEFORE.
>> WELL, I'M READY, SO LET'S GO.
>> OKAY.
>> IT'S ALL FOR NAUGHT.
NOTHING'S EVER GONNA GET BETTER.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.
>> I JUST STARTED ASKING GOD
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT
IT WOULD BE LIKE TO HAVE AN
ORGANIZED HOME...
THIS ONE'S STILL GOOD.
...THAT A BED LOOKS LIKE A BED
WITH PILLOWS ON IT AND YOUR
TABLE DOESN'T HAVE STUFF ON IT.
IT KIND OF HAS A SETTING.
AND THE COUCH -- YOU CAN SIT ON
IT.
PEOPLE CAN COME.
[ EXHALES SHARPLY ]
SEE, I FEEL OVERWHELMED.
MY THREE DEAREST FRIENDS AND
THEIR HUSBANDS HAVE TRIED TO
HELP ME.
>> THE FIRST TIME I WALKED IN, I
WAS PRETTY MUCH, "WOW."
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF
STUFF, AND IT WAS A LITTLE
OVERWHELMING.
AND I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW
SHE WAS ABLE TO LIVE IN THE
HOUSE.
>> WELL, I'VE FINALLY COME TO
THE REALIZATION I HAVE TOO MUCH
STUFF.
IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
AND I TOLD GOD THAT I JUST HAVE
THIS ONE WISH AND THIS ONE DREAM
THAT, "LORD, YOU JUST SEND
SOMEONE TO HELP ME."
HI.
>> HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> GOOD, THANK YOU.
YOU'LL HAVE TO PARDON -- MY
FRIENDS HAVE BEEN HERE.
NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> OH, IT'S GREAT TO MEET YOU.
I'M BRENDEN McDANIEL.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZER WHO
SPECIALIZES IN WORKING WITH
HOARDERS AND PEOPLE WITH
CHALLENGING SITUATIONS IN THEIR
LIVES.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME A
LITTLE TOUR AND SHOW ME, YOU
KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT ARE
BOTHERING YOU?
MY MOTHER WAS A HOARDER.
SHE ENDED UP TAKING HER OWN LIFE
BECAUSE OF BEING DEPRESSED.
WHERE DO YOU SIT WHEN YOU WANT
TO WATCH TELEVISION?
>> THAT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE.
>> RIGHT HERE, OKAY.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> PERHAPS I'M HELPING MY MOTHER
NOW, DOING THIS.
>> THE TV IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN
THERE.
>> IS THAT YOUR GOAL?
DO YOU WANT IT IN THERE?
>> YES, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IN
THERE.
>> WE'LL DO THAT.
THAT'LL BE EASY.
WITH HOARDING, YOU WALK INTO
THEIR HOMES, AND IT'S PACKED
FLOOR TO CEILING.
>> THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS THE
MOST -- NEXT TO THE LIVING ROOM,
THIS IS THE MOST UPSETTING.
>> AND THIS IS WHERE THEY HAVE
THE IMMEDIATE NEED BECAUSE THEY
COULD LOSE THEIR HOME.
YOU'VE GOT A CLOSET.
SO YOU KEEP MORE CLOTHES IN
HERE, TOO?
>> WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE
SINCE --
>> FOR A WHILE?
>> FIVE YEARS.
>> OH, WELL, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE
YOU CAN LET GO.
>> 'CAUSE THIS DOOR WAS SHUT.
>> OKAY.
>> I REALIZE I HAVE TO LET SOME
THINGS GO BECAUSE, HOW AM I
GONNA EVER GET OUT OF THIS
MAYHEM AND FOOLISHNESS IF I
DON'T LET IT GO?
>> MY CAUTIONS ARE THAT IN
CLEANING UP, I JUST FEEL LIKE
TARA IS GONNA GET VERY, VERY
EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY
FOR ME.
>> WITH THIS ONE, MAYBE THIS
COULD GO TO A KID, YOU KNOW.
>> YEAH, I COULD PUT IT IN MY
GIFT BAG, MY GIFT BOX.
>> SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS?
>> THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO DO THE
WORK.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LET IT
GO BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, IT WILL
SWALLOW YOU UP.
>> [ SIGHS ]
>> MY MOM AND DAD CAN'T MOVE
BACK IN THE HOUSE UNLESS THE
HOUSE IS CLEAN, AND I MEAN
CLEAN.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE MY MOTHER
UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT REALLY
MEANS.
>> GRANDPA WAS A JUNKMAN, AND
GRANDMA WAS A PACK RAT, SO SHE'S
LIVED LIKE THIS ALL HER LIFE AND
JUST HASN'T REALLY CHANGED.
>> I'M ALREADY WORRIED ABOUT HOW
IT'S GONNA BE HANDLED BECAUSE
TWO OR THREE TRUCKS WOULD CARRY
OUT EVERYTHING I'VE GOT IN THE
HOUSE.
I'M GOING TO DIG MY HEELS IN
RIGHT NOW AND SAY THERE BETTER
NOT BE THAT MUCH STUFF GOING OUT
OF HERE.
>> IF NOTHING GOES INTO ANY OF
THE TRUCKS, IT'S FINE WITH ME.
THIS IS YOUR HOME, THIS IS YOUR
PROJECT, AND YOU'RE GONNA STAND
YOUR GROUND, SO I CAN'T FIGHT
YOU ON THAT.
>> OKAY.
I DON'T THINK I COULD PUT A GOOD
ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH IS JUNK AND
HOW MUCH IS TREASURE UNTIL I
HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT.
I KNOW TWO DAYS ISN'T GOING TO
BE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT.
[ LAUGHS ]
WOW.
>> WHAT'S THE "WOW"? EXPLAIN.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO.
>> IT TOOK ME YEARS AND YEARS TO
GET ALL THESE HANGERS.
>> AND NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE
YOU GET RID OF THEM.
>> AND NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA
THROW THEM AWAY.
>> TRIESTE ACTUALLY HAS THREE
BEDROOMS OCCUPIED UPSTAIRS.
AND I SAID TO BETTY, "IT'S YOUR
HOUSE.
HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE GOING TO
GIVE YOUR DAUGHTER?"
>> I SAVE THESE AS SOUVENIRS FOR
SOME STUPID REASON.
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST THEY'VE BEEN
EVERYWHERE I'VE BEEN.
>> I'M WITH YOU.
>> I'M APPREHENSIVE ABOUT IT,
BUT I MIGHT AS WELL JUST DEAL
WITH IT.
>> WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING OVER
HERE AND MOVING DOWN THROUGH
HERE.
AND BETTY'S DESIGNATING WHERE
IT'S GONNA GO.
IT'S EITHER TRASH IN HERE,
GIVEAWAY OVER THERE.
YES?
AND IF IT'S KEEP, WELL, IT'S
GONNA GO IN ONE OF THOSE
CONTAINERS.
MAKE SENSE?
>> OUTSIDE HERE, A LOT OF IT IS
KEEPING.
VERY MUCH OF IT IS KEEPING,
UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTELY RUINED.
AND I CAN'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL
IT'S THAWED OUT AND I CAN REALLY
HAVE THE TIME TO CHECK IT OUT.
>> THIS ONE'S BROKE, SO CAN I
GET RID OF IT?
>> NO.
I DON'T USE THIS SIDE, AND THIS
SIDE IS ONLY BROKE IN HALF, AND
I CAN USE EITHER HALF OF IT.
>> BUT YOU HAVE THIS ONE.
>> THEY'RE DIFFERENT POWERS.
>> OKAY.
IF YOU THINK I HAVE NOT SUFFERED
MY MOTHER'S WRATH BEFORE IN
THROWING THINGS AWAY THAT SHE
DIDN'T APPROVE OF, YOU'RE HIGHLY
MISTAKEN.
I HAVE SUFFERED MORE THAN YOU
CAN IMAGINE IN DEALING WITH MY
MOTHER AND THIS CHRONIC,
HORRIBLE CONDITION OF EXTREME
HOARDING THAT SHE HAS.
AND I'M DONE SUFFERING.
>> TOSSING OR KEEPING?
>> IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO KEEP
A SWEEPER TO USE 'CAUSE I DON'T
LIKE RUGS, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF
MY ELBOW GREASE AND CLEANING IT
UP AND SELLING IT AT A YARD SALE
FOR $5 OR $10.
>> WHAT'S YOUR HISTORY OF
ACTUALLY REPAIRING THINGS AND
SELLING THEM AT A YARD SALE?
>> UH, I ACTUALLY NEVER HAVE HAD
A YARD SALE ON MY OWN.
>> THE INTENTION IS THERE.
>> YEAH.
>> RIGHT, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT
GONNA FOLLOW THROUGH --
LIKE, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT --
REPAIRING THIS VACUUM CLEANER,
MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT, OR HAVING
DINNER AND COOKING FOR YOUR
FAMILY AND HAVING EVERYBODY
OVER?
>> UH...
>> DINNER WITH YOUR FAMILY IS
MORE IMPORTANT.
PLEASE.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
>> NOW'S THE TIME TO NOT TEAR
UP, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT CAN
BE HELPED.
BUT I'VE GOT FANTASTIC
CHILDREN -- ALL OF THEM.
I'VE BEEN ALONE, AND THAT'S WHY
I HAVE STUFF, BECAUSE IT GIVES
ME SOMETHING TO DO.
AND IT'S ALWAYS THERE, AND MY
FAMILY ISN'T.
>> TO ME, IT'S STUFF VERSUS
RELATIONSHIPS.
>> [ GRUNTS ]
>> I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU.
IT'S STUFF, MOM.
IT'S STUFF.
>> SHE'S ONLY CRIED TWO OR THREE
TIMES.
I WAS BETTING SHE'D CRY.
I WAS WAITING FOR IT.
>> YOU'RE ONLY HERE BRIEFLY, AND
I'M HERE A LOT, SO THAT'S WHY
STUFF IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
>> I KNOW IT.
STUFF GETS IN THE WAY OF
RELATIONSHIPS, AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'VE BEEN TRYING SO HARD TO
HELP MOM WORK THROUGH.
WE HAVE HOPE.
I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THIS
MORNING, MOTHER.
WE HAVE HOPE.
>> NO -- NO DYING IN DESPAIR.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT
ANYMORE.
I DON'T CARE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE.
NO DYING, NO DESPAIR.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE.
I DON'T WANT TO LIVE THAT WAY.
>> SO, THESE WE CAN TAKE TO THE
ROOM?
>> YEAH, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM IN
THERE.
>> WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO,
TARA, IS JUST COME OVER HERE AND
SIT.
>> SIT?
>> YOU SIT.
OH, YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING,
BELIEVE ME.
OKAY, THIS IS GREAT.
NOW WE HAVE YOUR FRIENDS, AND
WE'RE GONNA START TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA GET AS MUCH DONE AS
WE CAN.
SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ENTIRE
HOUSE EMPTIED TODAY AND HAVE A
MAGIC WAND WAVED OVER THE WHOLE
SITUATION, HAVE IT DONE.
LET'S JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE
AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING --
>> NO, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TAKE
THE TIME FOR THAT.
>> TARA, LET'S JUST TAKE A
SECOND HERE.
WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY IS
CONCENTRATE IN THE LIVING ROOM
AND WORK ON ONE SPECIFIC AREA
AND NOT OVERWHELM TARA.
WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS WE GO
THROUGH AND AT LEAST LOOK AND
SAY --
>> BUT CAN'T WE DO THAT WHEN WE
ORGANIZE IT?
I CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE ORGANIZING.
I KNOW, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT
RIGHT NOW.
MY BRAIN IS NOT WIRED RIGHT NOW
FOR THAT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO
RECOVER FROM A MIGRAINE.
>> THE CYCLE KEEPS GOING THAT
THINGS GET CLEANED UP, PUT IT IN
A BOX, AND YOU DEAL WITH IT
LATER.
LATER DOESN'T COME.
WE NEED TO BREAK THE CYCLE.
>> NO, NO, THE BAG, HON.
THE RED ONE, THE RED AND GRAY.
YEAH, THAT ONE.
JUST PUT PRETTY STUFF IN THERE.
>> OKAY.
>> YEAH, WE CAN DO IT LATER
'CAUSE I'M GETTING STRESSED.
I GET OVERWHELMED BECAUSE THEN
I'M TRYING TO DO OTHER THINGS,
AND I THINK, "OKAY, WELL, I'LL
DO THAT TOMORROW."
BUT THEN TOMORROW, SOMETHING
ELSE HAPPENS.
THAT'S A JOURNAL.
>> WE'RE GONNA SAVE THE
JOURNALS.
HOW ABOUT THIS PRINCESS?
>> THAT'S A GIFT, SO WE SAVE
THAT.
THAT'LL GO WITH THIS.
>> SHE'S STILL THINKING THAT
SHE'S GOING TO BE DELIVERING
THESE GIFTS EVEN THOUGH SOME OF
THESE GIFTS HAVE BEEN IN HER
POSSESSION FOR, ACTUALLY, YEARS.
>> OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I DON'T
LIKE.
I DON'T LIKE WHEN THEY START
FALLING.
THEN I GET STRESSED.
>> HERE, PUT THEM IN THIS BOX.
>> OH, THANK YOU.
>> I'M GONNA PUT IT ON THE
FLOOR.
>> THESE ARE MY GIFTS.
>> FRAGILE.
SHE HAS THIS NEED TO PLEASE AND
TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT SHE DOESN'T
REALIZE SHE'S HURTING HERSELF.
SO, THESE ARE ALL FOR YOUR
FRIEND AT WORK?
>> YEP, YEP.
WHOA!
>> I GOT YOU.
>> OKAY, SEE, OH, THAT'S MY
VERTIGO.
[ CHUCKLES ]
WHOA, OKAY, JUST A MINUTE.
>> THIS IS STILL VERY
OVERWHELMING.
I WANT TO HAVE HER MAKE SOME OF
THE DECISIONS RIGHT AWAY ON SOME
OF THESE ITEMS SO THEY DON'T
HAVE TO JUST BE PUT IN A BOX AND
PUT IN THE BACK ROOM.
SEE HOW THE PAPERS JUST START TO
YELLOW, LIKE THIS ONE?
AND SO MAYBE WHEN YOU GET THIS
OUT TO THE GARAGE, IF SOME OF IT
JUST GOES AWAY BECAUSE IT'S
OLDER, AND STORING IT ISN'T
DOING IT ANY GOOD.
>> OKAY, WHAT IS THIS?
OH, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FALL.
THAT'S TRASH.
>> THIS ISN'T STOPPING.
>> AND THEN REMEMBER, I TOLD YOU
I WANT THEM TO BE ORGANIZED.
>> PERFECT, YES.
>> [ LAUGHS ]
>> I WANT YOU TO GO TAKE YOUR
MEDICINE.
SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE DIDN'T
TAKE HER MEDICINE THIS MORNING,
SO I WANTED HER TO STOP AND GET
SOMETHING TO EAT.
ALL RIGHT, GO TAKE YOUR
MEDICINE.
>> OKAY, LET ME SEE, WHAT IS
THIS?
OH, HERE, DID YOU SAY
STATIONERY?
>> SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR
ABOUT 2 1/2 HOURS, AND IT'S TIME
FOR HER TO HAVE A MENTAL BREAK.
>> OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
>> I'LL DO THIS.
GO TAKE YOUR MEDICINE.
>> OKAY.
[ LAUGHS ]
>> IS SHE WILLING TO PART THIS?
>> YES, SHE'S WILLING TO PART
THAT.
>> OH, OKAY.
>> OKAY, OKAY, JUST CALM DOWN.
YOU NEED SOMETHING TO EAT.
>> NO, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO
EAT RIGHT NOW.
I CAN'T EAT BECAUSE I'M SO
UPSET.
>> OKAY.
>> THAT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID IT.
>> ROCHELLE SAID, "THROW OUT THE
NEWSPAPERS."
SHE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO --
>> THERE WAS JUST A FEW ITEMS
THAT SHE FELT WEREN'T JUNK, LIKE
HER LITTLE "PEANUTS" COMIC
STRIPS.
>> YOU DON'T DO THIS BEHIND MY
BACK.
THAT, TO ME, SHOWS DISRESPECT.
>> I WOULD NEVER --
>> NO, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T.
BUT MY "PEANUTS" WERE GOING IN
THERE, YOU KNOW?
>> THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.
>> YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET HER A
BOOK WITH ALL THE "PEANUTS"
CARTOONS IN IT SO SHE DOESN'T
HAVE TO SAVE THOSE NEWSPAPERS.
>> AND I GOT JUST SO ANGRY
'CAUSE, SEE, I'M A PERSON --
IT'S NOT A PHYSICAL ANGRY.
IT GOES INSIDE OF ME.
I WAS SHOCKED THAT IT WAS YOU,
AND THEN I SAW BRENDEN'S FACE.
>> HE WAS JUST THERE.
>> NO, THAT MAKES ME THINK NOW,
"ARE THEY DOING STUFF BEHIND MY
BACK WHILE I'M IN THE LIVING
ROOM?"
THAT'S NOT COOL.
I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT
RIGHT NOW.
I NEED TO BREATHE.
>> OKAY.
>> HER WHOLE PROBLEM IS, "I'LL
DO IT LATER.
I'LL GO THROUGH THIS LATER."
AND...LATER IS NOW.
>> [ SIGHS ]
>> DO THE CLOCKS GO?
>> HUH?
>> DO THE CLOCKS GO?
>> UM...
YEAH, I THINK THEY NEED TO GO
OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T
BELONG TO GRANDPA.
I THINK THEY'RE GRANDMA'S CRAP.
>> WE HAD ISSUES IN THE FAMILY
OF DAD BEING AN ALCOHOLIC.
SO...THIS WAS HER REBELLION OF,
"IF HE'S GONNA BE DRUNK ALL
NIGHT, THE HOUSE ISN'T GONNA BE
CLEAN."
IT'S SAD AND PATHETIC, BUT IT'S
THE TRUTH.
>> SHE WANTS TO HAVE IT FILLED
WITH STUFF.
THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO HER,
AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT'S
ALWAYS GOING TO BE HER CHOICE.
>> OH!
I CAN SEE MICHELLE'S BEEN BUSY.
[ SIGHS ]
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH
YOU LOVE HER.
SHE'S ALWAYS GOING TO CHOOSE
STUFF.
>> I THINK SHE LIKES TO HAVE A
LOT OF STUFF SO SHE DOESN'T FEEL
POOR OR PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF
HER AS POORER.
>> [ SOBS ]
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH
THIS CHAIR?
>> IT'S JUST A...
A GOOD COMPUTER CHAIR.
>> WELL, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE IT
NOW?
>> IN THE LIVING ROOM, I
SUPPOSE.
>> IT'S SAD.
IT IS SO SAD TO THINK ABOUT ALL
THE THINGS THAT I'VE DREAMED
ABOUT DOING WITH MY MOM AND ALL
THE TIME THAT I'VE DREAMED FOR
MY CHILDREN TO HAVE WITH THEIR
GRANDMOTHER THAT JUST IS NEVER
GONNA HAPPEN.
I NEED TO HEAR FROM MY MOM THAT,
"YOU ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, AND
YOU ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT I
AM GOING TO GET SOME HELP."
>> HEY, WE'RE UNEARTHING THE
SEWING-MACHINE COLLECTION.
>> SOME OF IT.
>> WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
THAT I KNOW OF.
>> I NEED TO HEAR FROM MY MOM,
"I CHOOSE YOU.
I DON'T CHOOSE THE STUFF.
I CHOOSE YOU."
>> FATHER GOD, WE COME BEFORE
YOU, AND WE JUST THANK YOU,
LORD, FOR THIS DAY AND ALL THESE
GOOD SAMARITANS AND JUST ALL
THESE SPECIAL PEOPLE THAT YOU
BROUGHT, LORD, JUST TO BE A PART
OF THIS, LORD.
AND, AGAIN, JUST LET HER TO LET
GO, FATHER, THAT SHE WOULD TRULY
JUST BE SET FREE, FATHER.
AGAIN, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR
YOUR MIGHTY HAND IN ALL OF THIS
AND FOR JOINING US, LORD.
IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY.
AMEN.
>> AMEN.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, BRENDEN.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE.
[ SOBS ]
>> WHEN I WORK WITH A CLIENT
LIKE TARA, IT REMINDS ME SO MUCH
OF MY MOM.
AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THAT
WAY.
YOU KNOW, WHAT MY MOM NEVER
REALIZED -- MAYBE SHE DIDN'T
CARE AT THE END -- BUT IT REALLY
WAS A BURDEN TO HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THESE ITEMS LATER.
WE'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING DONE
TODAY.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> AND YOU'RE GONNA GET TO WORK.
>> OKAY. OKAY.
>> ARE THESE FOR CODY, OR ARE
THEY ARE FOR...
>> NO, THEY'RE MY BOOKS.
>> OKAY.
>> AS I'M PICKING SOMETHING UP,
IF YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT YOU
DON'T --
>> THESE ARE MINE.
I KEEP MINE FOR ME.
SEE WHAT YEAR THOSE ARE.
>> MEDICINE FOR KITTENS, HUH?
2001.
>> SHE'S CUTE UNDER ALL THIS
DUST.
A MIRACLE.
I'M JUST HOPING AND EVEN PRAYING
FOR A MIRACLE THAT MAYBE BETWEEN
TODAY AND TOMORROW SHE WOULD BE
WILLING TO JUST ABANDON
EVERYTHING THAT SHE REALLY JUST
DOESN'T NEED.
>> OH, YEAH, THESE ARE GIFTS.
>> THESE ARE ALL GIFTS?
>> YEAH.
HAPPY FACES -- THAT'S JUST WHAT
I NEED.
WHERE WOULD I PUT HAPPY FACES?
STICKERS.
>> TRISHA...
>> OH, TRISHA YEARWOOD TICKETS.
>> THIS IS A CONCERT YOU DIDN'T
GET TO?
>> I'VE LOST $200 TICKETS TO A
CONCERT.
I'VE LOST CASH.
I'VE LOST CHECKS.
OF COURSE, WE FIND THEM LATER.
BUT BY THEN IT'S TOO LATE.
>> THAT WON'T DO ME ANY GOOD
BECAUSE I NEVER GOT TO IT, I
GUESS.
[ CHUCKLES ]
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO, WE GOT YOUR STEREO, SURROUND
SOUND ALL HOOKED UP.
YOUR TV IS ALL READY TO GO.
YOU KNOW, WORKING FOR TODAY,
WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
>> OH, MY GOSH. OH, MY GOSH.
>> HERE, WE'LL PUT A BOOKSHELF
THERE.
>> I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS SO
MUCH DUST.
WHO KNEW THAT DUST GETS ON A
WALL?
>> WE'LL GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
WE'LL GET IT CLEANED.
>> THIS IS A LITTLE...
>> WE'RE NOT DONE.
WE'RE NOT DONE.
>> AND I'M SURPRISED IT BOTHERS
ME.
AND THEN WHAT DO I PUT IN
THERE?
>> THESE?
>> YES.
>> WELL, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO
BE FOR YOUR COMPACT DISCS.
JUST LET ME KEEP GOING ON WITH
YOU, AND WE'LL KEEP MAKING
PROGRESS.
IT'S ALL NOT GONNA BE DONE IN
ONE DAY, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET
THERE.
>> IT'S OVERWHELMING.
IT'S JUST OVERWHELMING.
>> YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR
FRIENDS OVER, AND YOU'RE GONNA
WATCH A MOVIE.
SO -- OH, YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
>> [ SNIFFLES ]
NO IDEA.
I HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO STILL.
>> WE'LL TAKE -- WE'LL TAKE CARE
OF THAT.
>> THIS WAS MY BED FOR A LONG
WHILE.
HOW ON EARTH DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> WE'RE KIND OF IN TROUBLE
HERE.
YOU KNOW, MY DAD'S LIFE'S AT
STAKE.
BUT YET SHE CAN'T LET GO OF THE
STUFF.
>> I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF A
HOARDER.
I HAVE SAVED STUFF...AND WAITED
AND WAITED AND WAITED FOR A
PLACE TO PUT IT.
>> I GET THAT.
>> AND THAT'S JUST STILL THE WAY
I SEE THINGS.
YEAH.
>> [ SIGHS ]
I'M DONE.
I'M NOT GOING TO CLEAN ANYMORE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF
THIS CHAOS.
>> YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE
COMMITTING TO NOT HELPING YOU
WITH THIS STUFF ANYMORE.
>> IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO COME
BACK BECAUSE I'VE KEPT STUFF,
THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR PROBLEM.
GOT ALONG WITHOUT YOU BEFORE I
MET YOU -- GONNA GET ALONG
WITHOUT YOU NOW.
>> THAT'S PRETTY STEEP.
IT WOULD HURT MY FEELINGS IF YOU
WERE MY MOM.
>> THEY'RE NOT HERE EVERY DAY.
>> OKAY.
>> AND MY STUFF IS.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN LOOK
AT EVERYTHING AND NOT UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS IS A DEBILITATING
ADDICTION.
AND IT'S REALLY ABSOLUTELY NO
DIFFERENT THAN BEING ADDICTED TO
DRUGS OR ALCOHOL.
>> [ CHUCKLES ]
I'M NITPICKING THROUGH THE STUFF
AND PICKING UP STUFF EVERYBODY
ELSE WOULD CONSIDER JUNK AND
SWEEP IT UP AND THROW IT AWAY.
BUT IT'S STUFF THAT ARE LITTLE
TOYS FOR THE KIDS AND SEWING
STUFF, WHICH MEANS A LOT TO ME.
HUH, GOOD BATTERY.
>> BETTY IS HER OWN PERSON.
THAT STUFF REPRESENTS A STAND
THAT SHE'S TAKING FOR HERSELF.
IT'S HER SAYING, "MY STUFF IS
ME."
>> ONLY GOT ONE SECTION I DIDN'T
GET TO CHECK.
>> I'M HURTING.
I'M SCARED. I'M DISGUSTED.
I CAN'T BREATHE.
I'M JUST FRUSTRATED BEYOND
BELIEF.
THIS IS HOW YOU WANT IT.
>> NO, IT'S NOT. YOU KNOW THAT.
>> I'VE CLEANED YOUR HOUSE OUT
BEFORE, AND IT KEEPS SHOWING UP
LIKE THIS, SO THIS MUST BE HOW
YOU WANT IT.
WE PROMISED EACH OTHER YOU WOULD
NOT [BLEEP] THIS ROOM UP.
IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN THE FILTH
AND THE [BLEEP] HAVE AT IT.
HAVE FUN.
ME AND MY KIDS AREN'T PLAYING
ALONG ANYMORE.
>> UH, OKAY.
>> THIS IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE, THIS
IS WHAT YOU ALWAYS CHOOSE, AND I
BELIEVE IN MY HEART THIS IS WHAT
YOU WILL CONTINUE TO CHOOSE.
SO...FROM NOW ON, I CHOOSE ME.
I HAVE ABANDONED MY CHILDREN AND
MY FAMILY FOR WAY TOO LONG...
TO HELP YOU.
SO I CHOOSE ME.
[ SIGHS ]
>> YOU WERE COLLECTING THE
McDONALD'S TOYS.
>> YES, I HAVE A WHOLE
COLLECTION OF THEM, AND, NO,
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT
RIGHT NOW.
>> WHAT IS YOUR GOAL?
>> MY GOAL IS --
[ LAUGHS ]
>> YOU WANT TO SELL THESE ON
eBay?
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DREAMS OF
GETTING RICH ON eBay.
>> I'M AT LEAST GONNA SELL THEM.
>> THE ODDS ARE AGAINST THEM.
>> I'VE GOT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW,
WHAT I WANT AND THEN SELL THE
REST.
>> SHE WANTS TO GET A COMPUTER,
PUT THEM ON eBay, AND SELL THEM.
IT'S VERY HARD FOR HER TO GET
ORGANIZED ENOUGH.
>> SOME OF THE MAIL THAT I JUST
FOUND IS 18 YEARS OLD.
>> HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S 18?
>> 'CAUSE OF THE DATE ON IT.
THIS WAS FROM 1992.
>> OH, '92?
>> '92 -- IT'S OLD.
>> OH, RIGHT.
THERE'S MY ADDRESS.
OH, I DO NEED MY ADDRESS BECAUSE
I FORGOT WHERE I LIVED.
>> I WAS EXPECTING THAT TARA WAS
JUST GONNA SAY, "OKAY, HERE'S
ALL MY STUFF.
TAKE IT AWAY."
BUT THAT DIDN'T QUITE HAPPEN.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT
TOUGHER THAN SHE ANTICIPATED IT
WAS GONNA BE.
>> "I HAVE DONE THE LORD'S WORK
HUMBLY -- YES, AND WITH TEARS."
OH, WOW, THAT'S A GOOD ONE
BECAUSE I DID DO THIS YESTERDAY.
I THINK I SHOULD JUST CUT UP THE
SCRIPTURES.
>> BUT YOU HAVE THE SCRIPTURES
ALREADY IN THE BIBLE.
>> DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE
BETTER TO GIVE IT TO, LIKE,
GOT JUNK, SOMEBODY WHO COULD USE
THE WHOLE THING?
>> WELL, NOW AFTER I TORE THE
THING OUT...
OKAY, JUST PUT IT IN GOD STUFF
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO
DO.
ALL RIGHT, MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT
DOESN'T KNOW JESUS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ON ALL THE
EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL WORK THAT
IT TOOK.
OH, MY GOD.
I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ON A LOT OF
WHAT WAS INVOLVED TO SHARE YOUR
HOME AND KIND OF LIKE YOUR
LITTLE WORLD.
I WISH FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAS
THE SAME PROBLEM NOT TO GIVE UP
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET LIKE THIS
IN ONE DAY.
BUT NOW I'M LEARNING.
>> SHE'LL DO IT.
SHE LIKES THE FEELING NOW OF
THESE SMALL VICTORIES, AND
THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES IN THIS
PARTICULAR TYPE OF SITUATION.
>> IT LOOKS SO CLEAN.
YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NO
CLUTTER.
IT WASN'T QUITE A HOME WHEN YOU
CAME, BUT IT'S BEGINNING TO LOOK
LIKE A HOME NOW.
AND THAT'S A START.
>> THIS MUST BE HOW YOU WANT IT.
>> WELL, WE HEARD FROM MICHELLE.
WE HEARD REALLY TRULY HOW SHE
TOOK A STAND, AND I THINK THERE
IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE
HELPFUL IN THAT WHOLE
INTERACTION BUT MOST OF ALL, FOR
EACH PERSON TO REALIZE THAT THEY
CAN'T HAVE MOM DO IT THEIR
WAY -- THAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS
ON THEIR OWN LIVES AND LET BETTY
FALL OR SUCCEED ON HER OWN.
>> THE LIVING ROOM IS TOTALLY
EMPTY.
WE'VE GOTTEN THIS BACKYARD
CLEANED UP, SO THE CITY'S HAPPY.
AND I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT
FINISHED YET.
TRIESTE DID A GREAT JOB OF
GIVING UP A LOT OF THINGS, AND
WE'VE HAD GREAT PROGRESS.
AND I UNDERSTAND HOARDING
TENDENCIES, BUT I REALLY CAN'T
BELIEVE THAT I'M A HOARDER.