>> THE ABILITY TO LET GO OF IT
IS HARD FOR RON, AND THE ABILITY
TO STOP GETTING IT -- IT'S
BEYOND ME.
>> I WAS HORRIFIED WHEN I SAW
STUFF COMING OUT THE ATTIC
WINDOW.
>> I'M AFRAID THAT CHILD
PROTECTIVE SERVICES MAY STEP IN.
>> STOP! STOP!
>> MY IDENTITY AS A PARENT IS AT
STAKE.
>> THE SMELL HITS YOU WHEN YOU
WALK IN THAT HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE A BLAST.
>> YOU'RE NOT THROWING AWAY MY
MILK.
MY MILK IS FINE.
>> I'M THROWING IT ALL OUT.
>> THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MIGHT
VERY WELL CONDEMN A HOUSE LIKE
THIS.
>> [ RETCHES ]
>> IT SMELLS A BIT FISHY.
>> HOLY SMOKES.
>> MY NAME IS JENNIFER, AND I'M
27 YEARS OLD.
WHAT'S IN YOUR MOUTH? CANDY?
WELL, MY HOUSE IS A MESS.
IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A HOME.
MY PORCH IS SORT OF THE CATCHALL
FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN'T FIT
INTO THE HOUSE.
AND THEN YOU COME INTO THE
LIVING ROOM, AND THE FLOOR'S
PRETTY WELL CONSUMED.
AND THE KITCHEN -- THE KITCHEN,
YOU KNOW, THE SINK IS AN OLD
SLOP SINK, SO WATER SPILLS OUT
OF IT FREQUENTLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF SPILLS THAT
DON'T GET CLEANED 'CAUSE THERE'S
STUFF ON THE FLOOR.
THE HALLWAY IS OUR LAUNDRY
HAMPER.
THERE'S ALWAYS A CARPET OF
LAUNDRY.
GETTING DOWN TO THE BASEMENT TO
DO LAUNDRY CAN BE HAZARDOUS.
AND THE KIDS' ROOMS -- THAT CAN
PROBABLY BE AT TIMES SOME OF THE
MESSY -- THE MESSIEST PLACE IN
THE HOUSE.
IT'S AWFUL.
>> HEY, I'M RON, I'M 39, AND
JENNIFER IS MY PARTNER, AND HAS
BEEN FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
JENNIFER -- SHE LOVES TO SHOP,
AND I THINK SHE FEELS SOME
CONTROL WHEN SHE'S ABLE TO SHOP
AND BUY THINGS.
>> THE ABILITY TO LET GO OF IT
IS HARD FOR RON, AND THE ABILITY
TO STOP GETTING IT IS -- IT'S
BEYOND ME.
[ HORN HONKS ]
THE FEELING OF SHOPPING, FOR ME,
IS VERY MUCH LIKE THE RUSH, THE
HIGH YOU GET FROM ANY KIND OF
ADDICTION.
>> [ SQUEALS ]
>> YEAH! WE GOT BOXES!
SHOPPING IS AN ADDICTION FOR ME.
I KNOW THAT.
>> YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY LEARNED
A LOT OF DISORGANIZATION IN MY
CHILDHOOD.
I REMEMBER MY DAD WORKED ON
JOBSITES AND WOULD BRING HOME,
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS
SALVAGEABLE OR LEFTOVER.
YEAH, DAD TAUGHT ME SOME THINGS.
[ CHUCKLES ]
>> YOU KNOW, BEING A MOTHER AT
20 AND A MOTHER AGAIN AT 21, I
WAS VERY ILL-EQUIPPED.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
AND THEN IN MAY, MY DAD DIED.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A DADDY'S
GIRL -- ALWAYS.
IT WAS VERY HARD FOR ME TO LOSE
MY FATHER.
I STILL MISS HIM A LOT.
AND THE PAIN CAUSED BY LOSS...
YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD THING TO
DEAL WITH, AND...
SO, YEAH. YOU KNOW, I SHOP.
AND IT'S -- IT'S NOWHERE NEAR A
REPLACEMENT OF MY FATHER.
[ SIGHS ]
BUT IT PROVIDES A MOMENT OF JOY
IN A WORLD WHERE THAT'S RARE.
HE KNOWS HOW TO CLIMB OVER IT
AND DIG THROUGH IT TO FIND HIS
CARS, AND, YOU KNOW...
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
REALLY PROUD OF, BUT, HEY, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE ADAPTABLE.
[ CHUCKLES ]
>> THEY'RE GONNA GROW UP IN
THIS.
I GUESS I'D BE CONCERNED THAT,
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD GO REALLY
WRONG WITH IT, TOO.
>> THE CITY HEALTH-CODE
INSPECTOR CAME AND SAID THAT
THERE HAD BEEN A COMPLAINT AND
THAT HE NEEDED TO INSPECT THE
HOUSE AND THAT IF WE DIDN'T
COMPLY, THEY COULD GET A SEARCH
WARRANT.
AND I BEGGED HIM FOR, YOU KNOW,
SOME TIME.
I'M AFRAID THAT CHILD PROTECTIVE
SERVICES MAY STEP IN AND SAY
THAT WE'RE UNFIT PARENTS.
IT'S TERRIFYING.
SOMEBODY COMES TO MY DOOR AND
KNOCKS AND I'M NOT EXPECTING --
YOU KNOW, IT INSTANTLY CAUSES MY
HEART TO, YOU KNOW, THUMP.
LOSING MY CHILDREN WOULD -- I
MEAN, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK
ABOUT IT.
I DON'T WANT TO IMAGINE HOW THAT
WOULD FEEL.
>> ONION.
MY NAME IS JILL, AND I'M 60
YEARS OLD.
HMM.
I'VE BEEN A MESSY PERSON ALL MY
LIFE.
I HOARD FOOD.
I FEEL GUILTY ABOUT WASTING
SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE
USING.
I USE DUCT TAPE TO CLOSE THE
FREEZER DOOR SOMETIMES WHEN I'VE
GOT TOO MANY THINGS IN THERE.
>> MY NAME IS KATHY, AND JILL IS
MY OLDER SISTER.
THE FOOD IN JILL'S HOUSE IS JUST
REALLY SCARY.
IT'S 'CAUSE IT'S EVERYWHERE.
>> UH-OH.
LOOKS LIKE I LOST A GRAPEFRUIT.
[ CAT MEOWS ]
>> I WENT INTO HER HOME, AND I
WAS SHOCKED.
I WAS JUST SHOCKED.
I WAS HORRIFIED.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE EATING A
MEAL, AND THERE WAS NO PLACE TO
EAT.
>> OH, THAT'S WHERE MY SCALE IS.
>> WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
COOKING A MEAL.
THERE WAS NO PLACE TO COOK.
THERE WAS NO PLACE TO WASH
DISHES.
AND NONE OF IT SEEMED TO BOTHER
HER AT ALL.
>> I'VE HAD PERIODS OF POVERTY,
WHERE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHOICE OF
WHAT I COULD EAT.
THAT AFFECTED ME REALLY, REALLY
SEVERELY, TO THE POINT NOW WHERE
I WANT TO ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE.
NOW, FIND A LID.
>> MY NAME'S AIDAN MADIGAN.
I'M JILL MADIGAN'S SON.
HER CURRENT LIVING CONDITION IS
POOR AT BEST.
>> AIDAN'S ALWAYS GROWN UP IN MY
DISORDER.
I TAUGHT AIDAN HOW TO SHOP IN
PERIODS OF POVERTY.
$4. THAT'S NOT TERRIBLE.
IT'S VERY SEDUCTIVE TO GATHER
THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED WHEN
YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY TO BUY
THEM.
HAZELNUT FLOUR. WOW.
OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY MADE
SPAGHETTI FROM CORN.
ZEN CUBE. HMM.
I HAVE THIS DIFFICULTY WITH
RESISTING SALE PRICES.
WHEN SOMETHING IS INEXPENSIVE, I
BUY IT.
OOH. IRRESISTIBLE.
IT'S SPRINGTIME.
HAVING A PANTRY THAT HAS A LARGE
COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF
FOODS MEANS THAT I CAN COME UP
WITH WHATEVER I WANT TO THROW
TOGETHER, AND I'M A GOOD COOK.
>> SHE'S A DAMN GOOD COOK.
BUT...
>> FINGER FOOD.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT I BUY AND
THEN FORGET ABOUT.
>> SHE GETS PUMPKINS FROM THE
CHURCH SOMETIMES SO THAT SHE CAN
MAKE PUMPKIN PIES.
BUT WITH SOME OF THE PERISHABLE
ITEMS, SHE GETS SIDETRACKED AND
FORGETS ABOUT THEM, AND THEN
THEY JUST SIT THERE.
>> CABBAGES ARE REALLY
FORGIVING.
THE OUTSIDE WILL GO BAD, BUT THE
INSIDE WILL BE FINE.
THERE WE GO.
NOW WE'RE SEEING SOME GOOD
COLOR.
I BELIEVE THAT IF THINGS HAVE
BEEN KEPT COLD, AND IF THEY'RE
NOT PUFFED-UP, THEY'RE JUST
FINE.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH SOUR
CREAM?
WHAT'S GONNA GO WRONG WITH THAT?
IS IT GONNA GO SOUR?
[ CHUCKLES ]
THERE'S STILL A VERY GOOD MEAL
THERE.
SO THAT WILL TASTE GOOD.
>> THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS TIME
FOR JILL RIGHT NOW.
>> OH, THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO
WOULD BE BEING EVICTED
TOMORROW...
[ CHUCKLES ]
...AND HAVING ALL OF THIS STUFF
STILL AROUND ME.
THAT WOULD BE THE WORST-CASE
SCENARIO.
[ CHUCKLES ]
O0 C1
>> I'M WORRIED ABOUT CHILD
PROTECTIVE SERVICES.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
THEM SAYING, "YOU CAN'T STAY
HERE."
I'M WORRIED THAT THEY WOULD SAY
THAT I'M A BAD MOTHER.
AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT HAVING A
LIFESTYLE FOR MY KIDS THAT, YOU
KNOW, IT'S NOT GOOD.
>> HI, JENNIFER. I'M GERALIN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO.
I'M GERALIN THOMAS, AND I'M A
CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL
ORGANIZER.
>> WELL, THIS IS THE BEGINNING
OF IT.
YOU SEE MY PORCH, AND THIS THE
OVERSPILL OF STUFF THAT WE CAN'T
FIT INSIDE.
>> JENNIFER -- SHE MENTIONED
THAT SHE'S NEVER REALLY BEEN
TAUGHT SYSTEMS FOR HOW TO DEAL
WITH THINGS WHEN THEY COME INTO
THE HOUSE AND HAS NEVER REALLY
LET ANYTHING GO.
>> OKAY.
>> WHERE ARE WE?
>> THIS IS THE KIDS' ROOM.
I CLEAN IT PROBABLY MORE
FREQUENTLY THAN ANYTHING ELSE,
BUT IT GETS SO OUT OF HAND SO
QUICKLY 'CAUSE THE KIDS HAVEN'T
LEARNED HOW TO PUT ANYTHING
BACK, OBVIOUSLY.
>> I SEE LOTS OF CHEERIOS ON THE
FLOOR.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW,
THEY COME IN, AND THEY FIGHT,
AND THEY SPILL, AND THEN THAT'S
THERE, AND THE DOG DOESN'T EAT
CHEERIOS, SO...
>> [ LAUGHS ]
>> OKAY.
>> WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME NOW?
>> THIS IS OUR HALLWAY/LAUNDRY
BASKET/LAUNDRY CARPET.
[ CHUCKLES ]
>> THIS SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF
CLOTHING.
>> YEAH.
>> SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
PICKING THEM UP FROM THE
BATHROOM FLOOR AND PUTTING THEM
HERE?
>> THIS HAS BEEN HERE PROBABLY,
MAYBE TWO MONTHS.
>> HOW ABOUT SHEETS AND TOWELS?
IS THERE A SYSTEM FOR KEEPING
THOSE CLEAN?
>> WE FREQUENTLY WASH SHEETS
BECAUSE WE EAT IN THE BEDROOM
AND FOOD SPILLS AND STUFF.
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU EAT IN BED?
>> PROBABLY EVERY DAY.
>> DINNER?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL OF YOU?
>> YEAH.
>> FIVE PEOPLE EAT IN A BED
EVERY NIGHT.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
>> WITH PLATES ON OUR LAPS,
YEAH.
>> OKAY.
AND HOW DO YOU END UP IN A BED,
EATING AS A FAMILY EVERY NIGHT?
>> IT'S JUST LACK OF AN AREA TO
SIT DOWN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A
SMALL TABLE IN THE KITCHEN, BUT
NORMALLY IT IS SO CLUTTERED WITH
STUFF, YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T
EVEN BEGIN TO SIT DOWN, AND
THAT'S JUST THE EASIEST PLACE.
ALL RIGHT, COME ON DOWN TO THE
BASEMENT.
THIS IS PRECARIOUS.
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
>> JENNIFER, DO YOU REALLY DO
THIS ALL THE TIME?
>> YEAH, EVERY DAY.
YOU KNOW, YOU ESCAPE THESE
THINGS.
IT'S HARD PRIDE-WISE TO, YOU
KNOW, SAY, "YEAH, I'M NOT GOOD
AT THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY."
>> I HAVE A TENDENCY TO
SOMETIMES OVERESTIMATE HOW MUCH
ROOM I HAVE FOR THINGS WHEN I
FIND SOMETHING THAT'S PRICED
REALLY WELL.
OH, HERE'S SOME COLD COFFEE.
HERE.
[ FOOTSTEPS ]
[ KNOCK ON DOOR ]
>> HI, JILL. DAVID TOLIN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU. MAY I?
>> WELCOME TO THE PIT.
>> WELL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
MY NAME IS DR. DAVID TOLIN.
I'M A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND
A RESEARCHER IN THE AREA OF
COMPULSIVE HOARDING.
WOW.
WELL, SO, JILL, TELL ME WHAT IT
IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UM...
UM, UH, A COMPLETE MESS.
[ CATS HISSING ]
>> THE SMELL IS THE FIRST THING
THAT HITS YOU WHEN YOU WALK IN
THAT HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE A BLAST IN YOUR FACE.
DO YOU NOTICE THE SMELL?
>> I THINK I'M PROBABLY IMMUNE
TO IT.
>> I'M NOTICING A STRONG -- A
STRONG SMELL, AND I'M ALSO
NOTICING -- I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU'VE SEEN, BUT THERE ARE FLIES
BUZZING AROUND THE ROOM.
>> YEAH, THERE ARE FLIES.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHAT
THAT MIGHT BE ABOUT?
>> IT IS REALLY COMPLETELY
DISGUSTING.
>> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, WHEN YOU
GET A STRONG SMELL AND A LOT OF
FLIES BUZZING AROUND, IT MEANS
THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ROTTING.
IS THERE SOMETHING ROTTING IN
THE ROOM?
>> NOT IN THIS ROOM, NO.
I HAVE SOME APPLES THAT ARE
ROTTING IN THE KITCHEN.
>> I SEE, BUT THERE'S NO ROTTING
FOOD IN THIS ROOM HERE.
>> NOT IN THIS ROOM, NO.
THERE'S SOME FRUIT OVER THERE,
BUT IT'S FRESH.
OH, I'M SORRY. THE PUMPKIN.
IT WAS A VERY NICE PUMPKIN WHEN
IT WAS FRESH.
>> NOT SO FRESH NOW.
>> NO.
>> THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MIGHT
VERY WELL CONDEMN A HOUSE LIKE
THIS.
IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THERE
WERE HUGE PILES OF ROTTING FOOD
ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THERE'S QUITE A COLLECTION HERE.
THIS IS --
>> YEAH, I LEFT -- I JUST --
>> WHAT'S THIS HERE?
>> THAT'S A PIECE OF -- THAT WAS
LETTUCE THAT I BOUGHT LAST WEEK.
EW!
>> OOH.
>> IT'S GONE.
>> WOW.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF DENIAL TO ALLOW THIS
KIND OF A PROBLEM TO BUILD UP.
I THINK I JUST STEPPED ON...
WHAT IS THAT -- MORE PUMPKIN?
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE.
THAT'S A -- IT'S A SQUASH THAT
WENT BAD, YEAH.
THERE ISN'T -- I'VE FORGOTTEN
ABOUT THAT.
>> UNRELATED TO THE PUMPKIN.
THERE IS ANOTHER REFRIGERATOR
THAT'S DOWN IN THE BASEMENT.
>> WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE?
>> WELL THE ICE CHUNK HAS TAKEN
HOLD OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND
IT LOOKS LIKE MY CARROTS, WHICH
I WANTED TO MAKE CARROT JUICE
FROM, HAVE SPOILED.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF YOGURT IN
THERE, SOME OF WHICH I PROBABLY
WOULD STILL EAT.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DATES.
IF IT'S NOT PUFFY AND IF IT
LOOKS OKAY AND SMELLS OKAY...
IT'S A VERY -- THE
REFRIGERATOR'S VERY COLD, SO...
>> THIS EXPIRED SIX MONTHS AGO.
OVERCOMING COMPULSIVE HOARDING
IS AN UPHILL BATTLE.
IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING, WE'VE
LEARNED THAT THE PROCESS IS
DIFFICULT, AND IT'S
TIME-CONSUMING.
>> I EXPECT THERE WILL BE A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KICKING AND
SCREAMING ALONG THE WAY, BUT I
NEED HELP...NOW.
O0 C1
>> I THINK THE BIG THING IS THAT
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS
WORKS.
AND SO I'M EXPECTING SOMETHING.
I HOPE THAT I'M GONNA GET
SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO DO.
[ LAUGHS ]
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LOT BETTER
THAN WHAT IT'S BEEN.
>> HEY, GOOD MORNING, JENNIFER
AND RON.
I BROUGHT HELP WITH ME, AS I
SAID I WOULD.
RON, YOU AND I ARE GONNA WORK
TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT LATER, AND
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU IS
YOU HAVE A LOT OF FISH TANKS
HANGING AROUND THE HOUSE, AND I
WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE
FOR THOSE.
>> GERALIN ASKED ME ABOUT THE
FISH TANKS, AND IT WAS A TOUGH
DECISION.
I ACTUALLY SHED A TEAR IN THE
KITCHEN THIS MORNING IN
CONTEMPLATING.
WELL, I HAD IMAGINED THAT THEY
WOULD BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE,
BUT I'VE DECIDED THAT IF WE'RE
DOING THIS THAT I'M WILLING TO
LET THEM GO.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
>> OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED.
>> SOUNDS GOOD.
>> I FEEL VERY INTIMIDATED BY
THE WHOLE PROCESS.
I'M SCARED ABOUT IT.
YOU ALWAYS HEAR, YOU KNOW, "YOU
DON'T AIR YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY,"
AND HERE WE ARE, AIRING OUR
DIRTY LAUNDRY FIRST THING TODAY.
>> THOSE ARE JUNK. THAT'S JUNK.
KEEP.
>> QUICK WORK.
[ CHUCKLES ]
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
GETTING RID OF STUFF THAT I
DON'T WANT.
IT'S REALLY RON.
>> THE BROKEN-WHEELED CAR THAT
I'VE BEEN HOLDING ON TO FOR
YEARS BECAUSE I JUST LOVED IT --
IT'S GONNA GO BYE.
IT'S GONNA GO.
THERE'S A LITTLE PANG OF SADNESS
AROUND LOSING THAT CAR.
IT'S NOT EASY.
STRANGELY ENOUGH, IT'S NOT EASY.
ARE THESE GUYS TAKING THE FISH
TANK?
>> YES.
>> WHAT'S THEIR SERVICE NOW?
>> THEY'RE GOING TO THROW THEM
AWAY.
>> I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO THROW
THEM AWAY.
>> OH, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO
WITH THEM?
>> WELL, I WANTED THEM TO BE
USED.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT THEM BEING
THROWN AWAY.
>> OKAY.
HEY, GUYS, LEAVE THE FISH TANK
AND THE STAND.
HE'S CHANGED HIS MIND. YEP.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
MY FISH TANKS GOING, BUT I DON'T
WANT THEM THROWN IN THE
DUMPSTER.
I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY
WAY I CAN FEEL OKAY ABOUT IT.
IF WE SAID WE WERE JUST GONNA
THROW THEM IN THE GARBAGE, I'D
REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH IT.
>> IT'S BROKEN.
>> NO, IT'S NOT BROKEN.
NO, IT'S NOT.
>> HE -- HE KIND OF RENEGED ON
LETTING THOSE GO, SO THEY'RE
STILL THERE.
YEAH, HE'S HAVING A ROUGH TIME.
THIS IS A LOT TO DEAL WITH, YOU
KNOW, FOR BOTH OF US.
>> HORSE?
>> IT CAN GO. YES.
GO. GO.
>> GO?
>> THOSE LITTLE THINGS CAN GO.
THE HOUSE CAN GO AND EVERYTHING
IN IT -- GONE.
>> TURTLE -- STAY OR GO?
>> IT STAYS.
>> OKAY.
PILE OF SOMETHING.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
>> OH, THAT'S SOMETHING -- I
THINK I'M GONNA USE THEM.
>> OKAY, SO IT'S SOMETHING
USEFUL.
>> IT'S SOMETHING USEFUL, YEAH.
>> ANYTHING UNDER HERE THAT CAN
GO?
YOU GOT A LOT OF STUFF LYING
AROUND HERE THAT I'M NOT SURE IS
CONTRIBUTING TO THE HAPPY-HOME
PICTURE THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE.
>> YEAH.
>> I WAS PRETTY AFRAID THAT, YOU
KNOW, WHEN I STARTED TO SEE
RON'S REACTION TO SOME OF THE
STUFF, YOU KNOW, GERALIN WAS
ASKING HIM IF SOME OF THE STUFF
COULD GO.
AND, YOU KNOW, FROM HAVING KNOWN
HIM FOR 10 YEARS, I'VE SEEN
THOSE POSTURES AND THOSE LOOKS
COME ON HIS FACE.
AND NORMALLY, WHAT THEY MEAN IS
SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TOO
PLEASANT OR FRIENDLY.
>> SO, WHAT'S THE STORY WITH
THIS DECK?
IS IT GOING TO STAY, OR IS IT
GOING TO GO?
>> I HAVE SO MUCH INVESTED IN
IT.
>> HOW SO?
>> WELL, THE INVESTMENT WAS MY
FATHER FOUND IT, AND HE GOT
SOMEBODY TO HAUL IT OVER HERE.
I HAVE A COUPLE FRIENDS THAT
LAUGH AND ASK ME ABOUT MY DECK
THAT'S NOT ATTACHED TO ANYTHING.
>> IT'S A DETACHED DECK.
>> THE DECK TO NOWHERE. YEAH.
>> SERIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT YOU
TO LET IT GO IF IT'S GONNA BE A
BAD FEELING FOR YOU.
>> WELL, WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN,
AND...
>> OKAY.
>> AND I CAN CHANGE MY MIND.
BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM A
MINUTE TO GET IT.
>> IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM MORE
THAN A MINUTE TO GET THAT THING
UNDONE.
OKAY. YOU FEEL PRETTY GOOD?
>> YEAH, NO.
I FEEL LIKE I MIGHT GET SICK.
>> DO YOU?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
>> YEAH. YOU FEELING NAUSEATED?
>> JUST A LITTLE.
>> OKAY, TAKE A COUPLE DEEP
BREATHS.
DO YOU NEED A COKE OR A WATER?
YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT FOR A
FEW MINUTES?
>> NO, I'M OKAY. I'M ALL RIGHT.
>> YOU SURE?
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY, WELL, I SAVED THE ONES
THAT PAPAW GOT FOR YOU, BUT I
THINK WE KIND OF NEED TO GET RID
OF SOME OF THE OTHER STUFFED
ANIMALS 'CAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY,
AND A LOT OF THEM WERE MESSED
UP.
AND I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING HARD,
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT YOU'RE
NOT GONNA GET TO ENJOY THE STUFF
YOULIKE IF YOU DON'T LET GO
OF SOME OF THE STUFF YOU REALLY
DON'T LIKE.
>> MOM, DO WE HAVE TO THROW AWAY
MY BLANKIE?
>> NO.
NO, THE BLANKIE IS GONNA BE
WASHED.
>> YAY.
STOP! STOP!
I WANT TO KEEP THAT!
>> OH. I'M SORRY, MAN.
THEY TOLD ME TO TAKE IT.
>> [ Voice breaking ] I WANTED
TO KEEP THAT.
THEY'RE TAKING THIS TOY HOUSE.
WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, I HAD
THAT, AND I WANTED -- AND I
WANTED TO GIVE IT TO MY CHILDREN
WHEN I WAS OLDER, BUT THEY'RE
THROWING IT AWAY.
>> BUT IS IT KIND OF BEAT-UP?
>> NO IT IS.
>> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE
LIVING IN A HOUSE THAT'S SO FULL
OF NOT JUST STUFF, BUT THE DIRT
AND EVERYTHING.
JUST...
[ SIGHS ]
>> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
>> YES.
>> I THINK MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE
TO PRIORITIZE FIRST AREAS OF
HAZARD -- THINGS THAT POSE A
DANGER TO YOU, YOUR PETS, THE
PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
BRENDEN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, AND
WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND IS A BIT OF
A TAG-TEAM APPROACH.
>> I'M BRENDEN McDANIEL.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZER.
WE HELP PEOPLE GET ON TRACK TO
AN ORGANIZED LIFE.
>> BRENDEN AND HIS TEAM ARE
GONNA HELP WITH THE ORGANIZING
ASPECT OF IT.
I'M GONNA GET IN THERE WITH THE
BEHAVIORAL- AND EMOTIONAL-CHANGE
PART OF IT.
SOUND LIKE A PLAN?
>> SOUNDS GREAT WITH ME.
>> LET'S GET INSIDE AND GET WARM
AND GET TO IT.
>> YES, OKAY.
[ CHUCKLES ]
I THINK YOU'RE ALL SET.
YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO DO THE
PUMPKIN.
WELL, IT WAS A BEAUTY WHEN IT
WAS ALIVE.
I ENJOYED YOU WHILE YOU WERE
HERE.
THANK YOU. GOODBYE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE
DONE.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST HOUSE
THAT I'VE DONE, PERIOD.
>> OH, MY.
LET ME JUST LOOK AND SEE IF
THERE ARE ANY SEEDS IN HERE, SO
WE CAN TRY TO GET A FEW OF THESE
'CAUSE THIS IS AN ODD PUMPKIN.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE QUITE LIKE
THIS BEFORE.
AND IF I CAN GROW SOME, THAT
WOULD BE NEAT.
OKAY.
>> THE KITCHEN IS WHAT I'M
REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
JUST THE PURE MAGNITUDE OF THE
AMOUNT OF FOOD IN THE KITCHEN
THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE TOSSED OUT.
ROTTEN APPLES.
LOOKS LIKE IT SEPARATED.
OOH, LOOKS LIKE MORE APPLES,
SOME LETTUCE, SOME OTHER STUFF
THAT TURNED BLACK.
DELICIOUS.
>> JILL, HOW ABOUT THE FREEZER?
CAN WE GET RID OF EVERYTHING IN
THE FREEZER?
>> LET ME LOOK THROUGH IT, IF
YOU DON'T MIND.
OH! I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TAMALES!
OH!
I'M GONNA KEEP THOSE.
I'LL KEEP THIS ONE.
I'LL KEEP THIS ONE 'CAUSE THAT
SMALL ONE'S FOR ME.
IF IT'S SQUISHY, I'M TOSSING IT.
>> THOSE DON'T LOOK GOOD.
>> WHAT IS THAT?
>> GROUND BUFFALO.
EXPIRED...
>> IT PROBABLY ISN'T EXPIRED
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN BUYING IT
THAT LONG.
>> WELL, IT'S GREEN INSIDE.
IT'S HARD SEEING SOMEONE LIVING
IN THESE CONDITIONS AND NOT
HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
YOU'VE GOT THIS REALLY COOL
ORGANIC CHICKEN BROTH --
FREE-RANGE-CHICKEN BROTH.
BUT IT'S NOVEMBER OF '08.
CAN WE LET THAT GO?
>> NO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I
WOULD BE ABLE TO USE.
>> WELL, WE HAVE --
>> IT'S NOT PUFFY, IT'S
EXPENSIVE, I DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY TO REPLACE IT, AND IT IS
SOMETHING THAT I CAN EAT ON MY
DIET.
>> HOW MUCH BACTERIA DO YOU
THINK WOULD HAVE TO EXIST IN
HERE BEFORE IT WOULD PUFF?
>> I THINK QUITE A BIT.
>> YEAH, YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING
LIFE-THREATENING AMOUNTS OF
BACTERIA.
>> YEAH, I MUST HAVE A CAST-IRON
STOMACH OR SOMETHING BECAUSE I
CAN GET AWAY WITH EATING STUFF
THAT OTHER PEOPLE GET -- THEY
SEE THE DATE AND SAY, "OH,
HORRORS!
NOVEMBER '08!"
>> HOW CRITICAL IS IT FOR YOU TO
MAKE THE BIG BEHAVIORAL CHANGES
THAT ARE GONNA ACTUALLY GET YOU
WHERE YOU WANT TO BE IN LIFE,
VERSUS SAVING THE MONEY AND
HANGING ON TO THIS VERY EXPIRED
CHICKEN BROTH?
MY THOUGHT IS THAT YOU HAVE A
BLIND SPOT HERE.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT YOU'RE
FALLING INTO ONE OF YOUR
HOARDING HABITS.
>> HMM.
>> CLUTTER IS THE SYMPTOM, BUT
HOARDING IS THE DISEASE.
IF ALL WE DO IS TACKLE CLUTTER,
IF ALL WE DO IS REMOVE THINGS,
WE'RE NOT CHANGING HER BEHAVIOR.
WE'RE NOT REALLY HELPING HER IN
THE LONG RUN.
AND IF WE COME BACK IN SIX
MONTHS OR A YEAR, I THINK WE
WOULD FIND THAT THE HOUSE IS
EXACTLY HOW IT WAS.
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>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> EVERYBODY REST WELL?
READY TO WORK?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THE KIDS, YEAH, YESTERDAY,
THEY WERE A LITTLE OVERWHELMED
BY WHAT WAS ALL THE STUFF BEING
SHIFTED AROUND.
AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE -- YOU
KNOW, THEY'VE ADAPTED TO THIS.
THIS IS NORMAL TO THEM.
I KNOW THAT IT'S THE ONLY THING
THAT YOU'VE EVER KNOWN, AND SO
IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND
THAT IT CAN BE DIFFERENT.
BUT YOU KNOW HOW WHEN YOU GO
OVER TO YOUR FRIEND'S HOUSE --
BEN'S HOUSE -- YOU KNOW HOW MUCH
FUN IT IS OVER THERE?
>> MM-HMM.
>> DO YOU WANT A HOUSE LIKE
THAT?
>> SOMETIMES.
>> CHANGING SOMETHING THAT BIG
IN YOUR LIFE IS NEVER GONNA BE
COMFORTABLE AND JUST EASY AND
FEELY-GOOD.
ARE YOU GONNA BE ALL RIGHT?
GET THROUGH THIS WITH US?
>> SURE.
>> I LOVE YOU, KIDDO.
THIS IS AN OVERDRAFT STATEMENT.
>> HOW MUCH DID THAT COST YOU --
$25 OR $15 -- AN OVERDRAFT?
>> A LOT MORE.
>> OH.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
>> HUNDREDS.
>> YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO
CRY.
>> IT WAS BAD.
>> DID HE EVER FIND OUT?
>> NO, NOT REALLY.
>> WHY ARE YOU CRYING RIGHT NOW?
>> [ Voice breaking ] 'CAUSE I'M
NOT PROUD OF IT.
>> A LOT OF SHAME.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT -- WHAT DO YOU WANT TO
DO WITH IT?
>> YOU KNOW, I WANT THIS NOT TO
BE A REGULAR PART OF MY LIFE
ANYMORE.
>> EXCUSE US.
IT'S LOOKING GOOD.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT'S A LITTLE
DISORIENTING.
I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF --
IT'S JUST REALLY A STRANGE
SENSATION FOR EVERYTHING TO BE
JUST MOVED AROUND LIKE IT IS.
I'VE DISCOVERED THAT I HAVE A
STRANGE ATTACHMENT TO THE WAY
THINGS ARE, EVEN IF THEY'RE
CHAOTIC.
I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS.
THIS IS A NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
IT HAD NEVER OCCURRED TO ME HOW
EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED I CAN
BECOME TO STUFF.
>> TRASH IT. TRASH IT.
>> YEAH.
>> TRASH IT.
>> YEAH.
>> TRASH IT.
>> YEAH.
SHE HAD THIS TODAY.
>> BUT WE DON'T NEED IT.
>> WE DON'T NEED IT?
>> NO. THIS IS THE LAST DAY.
THE GUYS ARE GONNA BE HERE.
WE NEED TO GET THIS STUFF OUT IF
IT'S GOING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, SO
WE'RE NOT GONNA MISS IT.
>> WE WON'T MISS THAT.
WHILE I WAS GONE, PICKING UP THE
KIDS, SHE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED
ITSELF.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE GONNA
DEAL WITH THE ATTIC.
AND I WAS SCARED.
>> WHEN HE LEFT TO PICK UP THE
KIDS, HE WAS UPSET, AND HE SAID
IT WAS GETTING ON HIS NERVES AND
HE WAS NOT COPING WELL.
>> I MEAN, I WAS HORRIFIED WHEN
I SAW STUFF COMING OUT THE ATTIC
WINDOW.
SOME OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW -- IT'S
STUFF THAT HAD SOME VALUE.
BUT I JUST CAN'T HANDLE IT.
AND I WAS LIKE, "OH, MY GOD.
THEY'RE RUINING EVERYTHING."
>> THE MESS THAT I LIVE IN NOW
HAS REACHED A CRITICAL MASS.
>> TODAY, WE'RE GONNA GO AND
WORK IN THE KITCHEN.
JILL'S GOT TO MAKE SOME
DECISIONS ABOUT GETTING RID OF
LOTS MORE THINGS.
>> THAT SIDE OF THE SHELF IS
GONNA BE BAD.
THROW THAT BUTTER.
THROW THAT COTTAGE CHEESE.
FARINA. THAT I WILL KEEP.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
WHEN THERE ARE BUGS IN IT, WHICH
IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM, THERE
ARE LITTLE CRAWLY MARKS THAT GO
IN HERE.
THAT'S HOW YOU CAN TELL WHETHER
IT'S GOT BUGS.
DO THESE EXPIRE?
I MEAN, WHAT CAN THEY DO -- GO
SOUR?
>> THEY CAN GIVE YOU FOOD
POISONING AND KILL YOU.
>> RICOTTA CHEESE IS FROZEN
SOLID.
>> WHAT'S YOUR RULE?
TALK US THROUGH IT.
WHAT'S YOUR LOGIC?
>> WELL, MY LOGIC IS THAT WHEN
STUFF'S FROZEN, IT EXPIRES
SLOWER THAN IT WOULD WHEN IT WAS
NOT FROZEN.
>> THE DATE ON THIS IS JANUARY
OF '07.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE EGGS IS
REALLY SCARING ME.
>> YES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT
I GOT FROM YOU FOR MY BIRTHDAY A
YEAR AGO.
>> A YEAR AGO.
>> I GAVE THEM TO YOU TO EAT.
>> THEY WERE TOO PRETTY TO EAT.
>> ARE YOUR PERCEPTIONS OF FOOD
COMPLETELY ACCURATE?
OR MIGHT THERE BE SOMETHING
IRRATIONAL?
>> I KNOW THAT YOU'RE RIGHT
ABOUT SOME OF IT, AND I'M
THROWING OUT THINGS THAT I'VE
KEPT IN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
SOME OF THEM ARE NO-BRAINERS.
BUT SOME OF THEM ARE THINGS THAT
I HAD TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM
BEFORE I COULD FIND SOME GOOD
REASON TO THROW THEM OUT.
>> WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT?
>> ONCE AGAIN, AN ATTEMPT TO BE
SELF-SUPPORTING.
THAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND
MOST EVERYTHING.
>> AND YET IT IS ALSO THAT
MENTALITY THAT GOT YOU HERE.
>> I KNOW. YEAH.
>> RIGHT.
OH, MY GOD.
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE?
>> THIS IS ALL GONE.
>> OH, BOY.
>> UGH. THIS IS...
>> PITCH IT.
>> [ GASPS, GAGS ]
>> [ Laughing ] I'M SORRY.
>> I'M REALLY GROSSED-OUT.
>> [ COUGHING ]
>> IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING
OUT...
[ LAUGHS ]
>> I GOT TO GO.
>> SOMETHING OUT OF A BAD DREAM.
I'M SORRY.
[ LAUGHS ]
>> [ GROANS ]
[ RETCHING ]
>> HMM, THIS LOOKS LIKE RESIDUE
OF THE MEAT THAT WAS NOT
COMPLETELY FROZEN.
IT SMELLS A BIT FISHY.
>> HOLY SMOKES.
>> I DID NOT PLAN TO LET IT GET
THIS BAD, EITHER.
>> IT WAS SO DISGUSTING.
I JUST --
>> MY GOD.
AND THERE'S STUFF THAT WAS IN
THAT DRAWER THAT SHE'S STILL
SAVING!
>> I KNOW. I KNOW.
SHE GAVE ME THIS PACKAGE OF
CHEESE THAT HAD BEEN SITTING IN
THAT DRIPPING STUFF, AND SHE
WANTED ME TO LOOK FOR A DATE ON
IT.
>> SOMETHING IS OFF HERE.
YOUR OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS,
YOUR OLD WAY OF THINKING ABOUT
THINGS -- IT IS SELF-DESTRUCTIVE
AS HELL.
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>> SHE'S PRETTY SICK.
SHE STILL DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT
THE FOOD IS BAD, YOU KNOW, THAT
IT'S UNSAFE.
SHE REALLY DOESN'T SEE IT YET.
>> WHAT'S HAPPENING?
THE COOLER'S COMING?
>> AIDAN WAS CONCERNED THAT A
NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT HAD
BEEN IN THE REFRIGERATOR HAD
BECOME CONTAMINATED SIMPLY
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE DIRTY
REFRIGERATOR.
>> WHEN THEY OPENED THE LID, THE
SMELL WAS SO HORRIBLE.
AND AIDAN SAID, "SHE'S NOT --
I'M NOT GONNA LET HER KEEP ANY
OF THIS."
>> HEY, MOM.
>> YEAH. BAGELS.
>> I LOOKED IN THIS COOLER.
>> YEAH?
>> AND THE FIRST THING THAT I
SAW WAS THIS.
>> FROZEN TOFU, YEAH.
>> MA, IT'S PUFFED-UP, AND IT'S
ROTTEN.
>> AIDAN, IT IS FROZEN.
>> ALL THIS STUFF IN THIS
COOLER --
>> OKAY, CAN I TELL YOU --
>> NO, NO.
ALL THIS STUFF IN THIS COOLER
I'M THROWING OUT, AND THEN
TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO
SHOPPING, AND I'M GONNA GET YOU
SOME NEW GROCERIES.
>> OKAY, CAN I TELL YOU WHAT IS
GOING ON HERE?
>> YOU CAN TELL ME, BUT I'M
STILL THROWING IT OUT.
IN MY OPINION, THEY WEREN'T
SAFE.
THEY WERE SITTING IN JUICES OF
ROTTEN STUFF.
IT'S GOT TO GO.
>> YOU'RE NOT THROWING AWAY MY
MILK.
MY MILK IS FINE.
>> I'M THROWING IT ALL OUT.
>> NO.
>> THE GLASS JARS YOU CAN KEEP.
>> I'M NOT GONNA THROW AWAY GOOD
MILK.
THERE'S NO REASON TO.
>> I'M THROWING AWAY EVERYTHING
IN THIS COOLER.
WE'LL BUY NEW STUFF.
>> IT'S --
>> I KNOW IT'S WASTEFUL, YES.
I KNOW IT'S WASTEFUL.
>> HE'S WORRIED ABOUT YOU.
>> IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN HERE
THAT CAN HURT YOU, AND -- JUST
SMELL IT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN SMELL...
>> OH, MY CHOCOLATE CHIPS.
WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH MY
CHOCOLATE CHIPS?
>> I'LL BUY YOU SOME NEW ONES.
>> [ SIGHS ]
I'M FEELING PRESSURED.
>> YEAH?
>> YEAH, I AM.
>> WHO'S PRESSURING YOU?
>> AIDAN AND...
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.
HE DOESN'T EARN VERY MUCH MONEY,
YOU KNOW?
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYBODY'S
MONEY.
>> NO, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT
INDEPENDENCE IS FOR YOU, AND YOU
DON'T LIKE BEING BEHOLDEN TO
ANYBODY.
THERE'S A LOT OF BIG CHANGES IN
YOUR LIFE, TOO.
>> SO, JILL, THE GUYS -- THE
1-800 GUYS --
>> CAN YOU LET ME AT IT BEFORE
YOU START?!
THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT I WANT
TO SAVE, BUT YOU'RE READY TO
JUMP ON ME FOR IT, OKAY?
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXPECTING ME TO
DISAGREE.
YOU'RE EXPECTING ME, YOU KNOW,
BUT DON'T -- DON'T -- YOU KNOW,
GIVE ME A CHANCE.
WILL YOU, PLEASE?
>> THAT'S FINE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
>> AS SOON AS YOU OPEN IT UP...
>> IT'S BEEN HARD.
I KNOW I NEED TO CHANGE IN ORDER
TO GET THE LIFE THAT I WANT.
THE YOGURT -- WE'LL JUST LET IT
GO.
IT'S ALL GONE.
>> OKAY.
>> TAKE IT AWAY.
>> ARRIVEDERCI, DULCE DE LECHE.
>> [ LAUGHS ]
>> THANK YOU.
>> [ LAUGHS ]
>> NICE GOING, JILL.
UNLESS JILL MAKES A DRAMATIC AND
SUSTAINED CHANGE IN HER
BEHAVIOR, THEN THE PROBLEM'S
JUST GONNA RETURN.
SHE'S GONNA FILL THAT SPACE UP
AGAIN.
>> THIS IS CAT AND DOG STUFF.
THIS IS GOOD STUFF.
YEAH, THIS IS GOOD STUFF.
>> I'VE BEEN OVERWHELMED TODAY.
WE STILL HAVE TO SORT THROUGH
ALL THIS STUFF.
MY EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO MY
STUFF JUST OVERWHELMED ME WHEN I
CAME IN AND SAW ALL THIS STUFF
GOING.
IT'S JUST LIKE, "AAH."
MY REACTION IS ANGER, AND IT'S
NOT PRETTY.
I FEEL GOOD I DIDN'T, LIKE --
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ACT OUT ON
IT.
>> I KNOW.
>> SO THAT WAS GOOD.
>> AND YOU KNOW THAT WE DID
EVERYTHING THAT YOUR WIFE ASKED
US TO DO.
>> I KNOW, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT
SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME
REAL TOUGH CHOICES.
>> YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE A LOT
OF ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE.
>> YES, I CONCUR.
[ BOTH LAUGH ]
>> NOW THAT THINGS ARE DONE, I
FEEL LIKE I HAVE A HOME.
ALL THE THINGS THAT I LOVE TO DO
AND TO HAVE AROUND ME ARE ALL
THERE.
THEY ALL HAVE A PLACE.
THE KITCHEN IS AMAZING.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THE ROOM THAT I
HAVE IN THERE NOW.
I FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT HAVING
MY KIDS -- ALL THREE OF THEM --
IN ONE ROOM.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT A
LOT BETTER FOR THEM.
>> MY SON, ESPECIALLY -- I THINK
HE'S THE KID THAT WANTS TO HOLD
ON TO THINGS.
YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM THAT I HAD
A LOT OF FEELINGS ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT I LET HIM KNOW
THAT.
YOU KNOW, HE'S SAD 'CAUSE WE
THREW OUT SOME OF HIS FAVORITE
TOYS.
>> RIGHT.
>> THEN I EXPLAINED TO HIM AND
ASKED HIM IF HE THOUGHT MAYBE IT
WOULD BE A GOOD THING THAT WE'LL
HAVE ROOM FOR HIM TO PLAY WITH
HIS NEW FAVORITE TOYS.
>> RIGHT.
>> THIS IS MONUMENTOUS FOR OUR
FAMILY.
>> THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE
ICEBERG.
YOU CAN MAKE IT, BUT NOW YOUR
HARD WORK TRULY BEGINS.
THE CHANCES OF PEOPLE OVERCOMING
THIS ARE VERY, VERY SLIM, AND I
GUESS FOR THIS FAMILY, I'M MUCH
MORE HOPEFUL THAN USUAL BECAUSE
OF THE PROGRESS I'VE SEEN THEM
MAKE IN THE LAST TWO DAYS.
SO I'M ROOTING FOR THEM.