1 00:00:01,568 --> 00:00:02,336 Narrator: Tonight on "Shark Tank"... 2 00:00:02,336 --> 00:00:03,403 Whoa! 3 00:00:03,403 --> 00:00:04,538 Hi, Sharks. 4 00:00:04,538 --> 00:00:06,406 Whoa! 5 00:00:06,406 --> 00:00:07,407 [ Gags ] 6 00:00:07,407 --> 00:00:09,243 We're looking for a strategic partner. 7 00:00:09,243 --> 00:00:09,843 But what's the plan? 8 00:00:09,843 --> 00:00:11,545 I'm so nervous. Greiner: Okay, you know what? 9 00:00:11,545 --> 00:00:13,247 Take a breath. Take a breath. I'm so nervous. 10 00:00:13,247 --> 00:00:14,214 [ Gasps ] 11 00:00:14,214 --> 00:00:14,781 [ Laughter ] 12 00:00:14,781 --> 00:00:16,483 I am the Shark for this deal. 13 00:00:16,483 --> 00:00:17,684 That's the ultimate flex. 14 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:19,653 Well, then what are we talking about here, Doc? 15 00:00:19,653 --> 00:00:20,854 [ Cheering ] 16 00:00:20,854 --> 00:00:22,623 O'Leary: We've never seen this on "Shark Tank." 17 00:00:22,623 --> 00:00:24,291 Never. And we've been doing this 18 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:25,526 for 15 years. 19 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:28,262 Cuban: That's a big ass dog. 20 00:00:28,629 --> 00:00:31,465 Herjavec: Did not expect that to happen. 21 00:00:34,801 --> 00:00:37,671 Narrator: First into the Tank is a business seeking to lend 22 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:41,008 a helping hand to those in need. 23 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:49,783 Hi, Sharks. 24 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:53,053 I'm Dr. Aadeel Akhtar from San Diego, California. 25 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:57,991 I'm here seeking $1 million for 2% equity in my company Psyonic, 26 00:00:57,991 --> 00:01:01,361 where we develop advanced bionic limbs that are accessible for 27 00:01:01,361 --> 00:01:03,664 both humans and robots. 28 00:01:03,664 --> 00:01:04,998 When I was 7 years old, 29 00:01:04,998 --> 00:01:07,501 I met someone missing a limb for the first time. 30 00:01:07,501 --> 00:01:09,970 She was my age, living in poverty in Pakistan, 31 00:01:09,970 --> 00:01:12,572 where I was visiting, missing her right leg and using 32 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:14,508 a tree branch as a crutch. 33 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:16,677 That's what inspired me to go into this field, 34 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:18,946 and that's why I developed the Ability Hand. 35 00:01:18,946 --> 00:01:20,948 It's the fastest bionic hand on the market. 36 00:01:20,948 --> 00:01:23,650 It's the first to provide touch feedback to users, 37 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:25,719 and you can control it with your muscles, 38 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:27,688 like Sergeant Anderson over there. 39 00:01:27,688 --> 00:01:30,958 It's also water resistant and USB-C rechargeable. 40 00:01:30,958 --> 00:01:33,594 You can even charge your phone from your hand, 41 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:34,828 a superhuman ability. 42 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:37,664 The Ability Hand has made a huge difference 43 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:38,899 in the lives of our users. 44 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:41,902 For example, Sergeant Anderson can actually hold and feel his 45 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:43,904 daughter's hand again, something he couldn't do 46 00:01:43,904 --> 00:01:45,806 with any other prosthetic before. 47 00:01:45,806 --> 00:01:51,078 But he can also take Psyonic's Ability Hand to the extreme. 48 00:01:55,649 --> 00:01:58,218 [ Cheering ] 49 00:01:58,218 --> 00:01:58,819 Wow! 50 00:01:58,819 --> 00:02:00,020 That was so cool! 51 00:02:00,020 --> 00:02:02,889 So the Ability Hand isn't just for prosthetics. 52 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:05,826 It's also being used on robots around the world, 53 00:02:05,826 --> 00:02:07,728 including at major tech companies 54 00:02:07,728 --> 00:02:09,730 and even on missions into space. 55 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,733 So, Sharks, who wants to join our bionic revolution 56 00:02:12,733 --> 00:02:15,969 and change the world one hand at a time? 57 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:18,872 I want to actually introduce you to Sergeant Garrett Anderson. 58 00:02:18,872 --> 00:02:20,807 Hi, Sharks. I'm retired Sergeant Garrett Anderson. 59 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:22,709 I lost my arm in Iraq in 2005 from 60 00:02:22,709 --> 00:02:24,578 an improvised explosive device. 61 00:02:24,578 --> 00:02:26,646 I've used a lot of prosthetics in my 62 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:27,848 18 years of being an amputee. 63 00:02:27,848 --> 00:02:31,685 They're too heavy, too slow, not functional and not durable. 64 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:33,854 So the Psyonic hand has really changed my life 65 00:02:33,854 --> 00:02:36,957 and given me a new way to interact with society. 66 00:02:36,957 --> 00:02:38,959 Thanks for your service. Thank you. John: Thank you. 67 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:41,928 Tell us about you and how you came up with this. 68 00:02:41,928 --> 00:02:43,930 Absolutely. So after I had met that 69 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:46,800 7-year-old girl in Pakistan, I ended up getting 70 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,568 a bachelor's degree in biology from 71 00:02:48,568 --> 00:02:49,703 Loyola University Chicago, 72 00:02:49,703 --> 00:02:51,772 a master's degree in computer science. 73 00:02:51,772 --> 00:02:53,707 From there, I got another master's in 74 00:02:53,707 --> 00:02:54,941 Electrical and computer engineering, 75 00:02:54,941 --> 00:02:57,577 PhD in neuroscience, and then I left medical school 76 00:02:57,577 --> 00:02:58,845 because this was a bit more fun. Wow. 77 00:02:58,845 --> 00:02:59,913 When I was a graduate student, 78 00:02:59,913 --> 00:03:01,815 we started 3-D printing these hands. 79 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:03,917 What happens next? You raise a lot of money. 80 00:03:03,917 --> 00:03:06,653 [ Laughs ] Yeah. How much have you raised? 81 00:03:06,653 --> 00:03:09,556 So we've raised $3.6 million so far. 82 00:03:09,556 --> 00:03:10,624 Okay. And we're actually 83 00:03:10,624 --> 00:03:11,925 in the middle of a StartEngine crowdfunding 84 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:14,694 campaign where we raised $2.2 million. 85 00:03:14,694 --> 00:03:18,432 What money have you raised in total, 86 00:03:18,432 --> 00:03:19,766 and at what valuation? 87 00:03:19,766 --> 00:03:22,969 Well, we raised $1.4 million at the $12 million valuation. 88 00:03:22,969 --> 00:03:26,540 And then we raised $2.2 million so far on StartEngine 89 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:27,541 at the $50 million -- 90 00:03:27,541 --> 00:03:28,775 Over what period of time? 91 00:03:28,775 --> 00:03:30,110 Just almost a year now. 92 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:32,946 A whole year, you've only been able to raise $2.2? 93 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:35,549 Well, we also get money from grants, as well. 94 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:36,650 How much? 95 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:38,785 We've raised $2.4 million in grant funding. 96 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:40,921 And then we should be getting another $2.7 million 97 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:42,856 next year from the DoD. 98 00:03:42,856 --> 00:03:44,925 That just doesn't make any sense to me that you would spend 99 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:47,961 all that time on StartEngine just to raise $2.2 million 100 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:50,797 when given the impact, if what you're saying 101 00:03:50,797 --> 00:03:53,767 is accurate, there's a thousand people 102 00:03:53,767 --> 00:03:54,801 who would write that check. 103 00:03:54,801 --> 00:03:56,803 There are several reasons why we decided to go 104 00:03:56,803 --> 00:03:58,004 to the equity crowdfunding route. 105 00:03:58,004 --> 00:04:00,607 So one of them is half of our sales actually come from 106 00:04:00,607 --> 00:04:02,876 social media. From social media? 107 00:04:02,876 --> 00:04:03,944 Social media. 108 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:05,746 You said sales? So you're actually selling? 109 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:06,947 We are actually selling this. 110 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:09,082 And so this is an FDA registered medical device. 111 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,752 We got it covered by Medicare in the US. 112 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:12,986 Oh, wow, okay. Wow. 113 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:14,821 Put that in perspective, before this hand came along, 114 00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:16,990 only 10% of patients in the US could afford it. 115 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:18,725 How much does it cost, doctor? 116 00:04:18,725 --> 00:04:20,760 Um, this costs $15,500. 117 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,795 What's it cost you to make it? 118 00:04:21,795 --> 00:04:23,864 It costs us $1,800 to make it. 119 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:25,599 How many patients do you now have? 120 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:26,266 We have over 100 patients. 121 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,101 But our biggest problem is that we've got more demand 122 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:29,736 than we can produce, and so we want to start 123 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:31,738 ramping up our production so we can get these -- 124 00:04:31,738 --> 00:04:33,039 How many are you producing a year? 125 00:04:33,039 --> 00:04:34,875 Um, so right now, we're actually about 126 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,643 a capacity of like 100 a year. 127 00:04:36,643 --> 00:04:38,712 Why is your capacity just 100? 128 00:04:38,712 --> 00:04:40,647 By next year, we're looking at potentially 129 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:42,682 doing at least 500 hands per year and then 130 00:04:42,682 --> 00:04:44,050 a thousand and more. 131 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:47,120 Why aren't the doctors who specialize in 132 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,023 people in these circumstances, the VA, 133 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:52,692 why aren't they just all over you, just saying, 134 00:04:52,692 --> 00:04:53,960 "We'll take all you can make"? 135 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,996 Yeah, they have been taking all that we can make. 136 00:04:55,996 --> 00:04:57,697 And so that's why we're trying to build 137 00:04:57,697 --> 00:04:58,965 our production capacity. 138 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:00,066 How much are you going to have to invest to 139 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:01,868 increase the manufacturing capacity to get 140 00:05:01,868 --> 00:05:03,770 to a thousand units a year? 141 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:05,038 To get to a thousand units a year? 142 00:05:05,038 --> 00:05:07,007 Um, up to 5 million in this round. 143 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:09,109 Doctor, did you ever pitch 144 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:12,679 equity guys that only specialize in health care? 145 00:05:12,679 --> 00:05:14,781 What we've seen in that space is that 146 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:15,882 it's either one or the other. 147 00:05:15,882 --> 00:05:17,818 They like either go into robotics purely 148 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,753 or either go into the health care field. 149 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:21,621 But when you pitch the equity guys 150 00:05:21,621 --> 00:05:22,789 who are into robotics... 151 00:05:22,789 --> 00:05:24,024 Yeah. ...what was the feedback? 152 00:05:24,024 --> 00:05:25,792 Why didn't they invest? 153 00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:27,894 Um, so some of them didn't care for 154 00:05:27,894 --> 00:05:30,030 the mission for humans, right? 155 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:31,665 They didn't care that -- 156 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:33,099 I just cannot see that at all 157 00:05:33,099 --> 00:05:34,267 for somebody who's in the health care space. 158 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:37,170 I mean, look, if you would have come to me and said, 159 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:39,840 "I just need $5 million, we can dominate this industry." 160 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,775 And I'm saying, "Okay, let's just negotiate 161 00:05:41,775 --> 00:05:43,710 because $5 million is a lot of money." 162 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:45,679 Sure. But to try to 163 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:46,780 change people's lives like that -- 164 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:48,148 In the scope of things, it's not. 165 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:50,784 Scope of things aside, this just does not add up to me. 166 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:52,752 So for those reasons, I'm out. 167 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:53,954 Understood. 168 00:05:53,954 --> 00:05:55,088 Herjavec: Yeah, Dr. Aadeel, when I was on 169 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:56,289 "Dancing With the Stars", a good friend of mine 170 00:05:56,289 --> 00:05:59,926 to this day, Noah Galloway, you know, great veteran, 171 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:02,762 uh, he lost his arm and his leg. 172 00:06:02,762 --> 00:06:05,198 And I know the pain of this. 173 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:08,501 It's not just as simple as simply attaching it. 174 00:06:08,501 --> 00:06:09,102 Absolutely. 175 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:12,772 There's a lot of infections, a lot of issues with it. 176 00:06:12,772 --> 00:06:16,243 How do I attach this to the limb? 177 00:06:16,243 --> 00:06:19,713 Yeah, absolutely. So this is the hand right over here. 178 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:20,947 Um, and so -- 179 00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:23,884 So I need that, the doctor -- 180 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:25,919 Exactly. The clinician, the prosthetist 181 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,854 makes the socket, and then they attach our hand 182 00:06:27,854 --> 00:06:28,989 to it with all of our electronics. 183 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:30,657 So how would they -- Custom fit it. 184 00:06:30,657 --> 00:06:31,858 So that arm -- 185 00:06:31,858 --> 00:06:32,993 So you're making just the hand? 186 00:06:32,993 --> 00:06:34,027 We make just the hand. Exactly. 187 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:35,962 I'm very bullish on this space. 188 00:06:35,962 --> 00:06:38,098 I think it's going to change people's lives. 189 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:41,902 But that knowledge makes me skeptical, 190 00:06:41,902 --> 00:06:44,070 that with a few million dollars, 191 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:45,839 you are what you are. 192 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,941 Perhaps it's my own skepticism. 193 00:06:47,941 --> 00:06:51,778 I wish you all the best, and incredible mission, 194 00:06:51,778 --> 00:06:53,613 but I'm out. 195 00:06:53,613 --> 00:06:54,180 Thank you, Robert. 196 00:06:54,180 --> 00:06:55,949 Doctor, I just want to clean up your presentation 197 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:57,050 a bit with some numbers. 198 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:59,052 First of all, lifetime sales. 199 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:01,288 Yeah, so lifetime sales is about $2 million. 200 00:07:01,288 --> 00:07:03,957 Okay. And what were the sales last year? 201 00:07:03,957 --> 00:07:05,158 So it was just over $1 million. 202 00:07:05,158 --> 00:07:06,893 And you made money on that? 203 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:07,894 Yes. How much? 204 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:09,129 Uh, $100,000. Okay. 205 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:10,930 This year, what do you think you'll do in sales? 206 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:13,166 So we'll probably be around $200,000 at least. 207 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,168 My issue with this deal is I don't get out of bed 208 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:18,204 for 2% of anything, because what I'm worried about 209 00:07:18,204 --> 00:07:22,008 is the more successful you are, the more you have to raise, 210 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:24,044 the more I get diluted. 211 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:25,979 I know what the answer is going to be. 212 00:07:25,979 --> 00:07:28,114 I want 10% for a million bucks. 213 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:31,151 Uh, yeah, I mean, unfortunately that's going to be too high. 214 00:07:31,151 --> 00:07:33,987 I mean, like, I got to wet my beak here. 215 00:07:33,987 --> 00:07:36,256 Are there other offers here, too? 216 00:07:36,256 --> 00:07:38,224 Greiner: Daymond and I love it. 217 00:07:38,224 --> 00:07:41,227 We believe in it. We believe in you. 218 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:43,863 So we'd like to give you an offer. 219 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:54,941 Narrator: Two Sharks are out. 220 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:56,976 Dr. Akhtar has an offer from Kevin 221 00:07:56,976 --> 00:07:59,879 for his robotic hand company Psyonic. 222 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:02,015 But Lori and Daymond are also interested. 223 00:08:02,015 --> 00:08:04,050 We'd like to give you an offer. 224 00:08:04,050 --> 00:08:07,053 We'd like to do $1 million for 6%, 225 00:08:07,053 --> 00:08:09,622 but you get both Sharks. Both of us, yeah. 226 00:08:09,622 --> 00:08:10,123 Got it. 227 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:11,191 But we don't want to be diluted. 228 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:13,093 That could be problematic. 229 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,097 So what do you think of that? Or do you have a counter? 230 00:08:17,097 --> 00:08:20,066 So yeah -- So we want to protect our valuation, right? 231 00:08:20,066 --> 00:08:22,102 Because we want to protect our investors. 232 00:08:22,102 --> 00:08:26,339 So what if it were $1 million at 2% shares. 233 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:29,075 But then we can throw in advisory shares. 234 00:08:29,075 --> 00:08:31,845 And so let's say an additional 1% 235 00:08:31,845 --> 00:08:33,713 for each of you. Would that work? 236 00:08:33,713 --> 00:08:35,782 So 4%? 4%. Yes. 237 00:08:35,782 --> 00:08:36,383 No. 238 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:39,052 We can get into the details of how we structure it. 239 00:08:39,052 --> 00:08:40,153 But the one important detail is... 240 00:08:40,153 --> 00:08:41,454 Right. ...we don't want to be diluted. 241 00:08:41,454 --> 00:08:43,990 Daymond, to be clear, you're asking for preference shares, 242 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:45,458 and for viewers at home, the problem with 243 00:08:45,458 --> 00:08:48,928 preference shares is that, as more money is raised, 244 00:08:48,928 --> 00:08:50,497 your percent is protected in perpetuity, 245 00:08:50,497 --> 00:08:53,833 which means so you're never going to get diluted 246 00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:55,135 while everyone else is. 247 00:08:55,135 --> 00:08:56,302 You sit on the top of the stack. 248 00:08:56,302 --> 00:08:57,937 But we bring an incredible amount of value. 249 00:08:57,937 --> 00:08:59,139 O'Leary: But you understand 250 00:08:59,139 --> 00:09:01,141 the problem for your shareholders. I understand. 251 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,442 You're going to have to disclose that to them. 252 00:09:02,442 --> 00:09:06,813 We'd be willing to do the 2% with the 2% advisory 253 00:09:06,813 --> 00:09:07,947 but non-diluted. 254 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:13,319 Which really isn't bad, considering what you get. 255 00:09:13,319 --> 00:09:15,422 That's true. I mean -- but I mean, 256 00:09:15,422 --> 00:09:18,291 we're going to be turning this into a $1 billion company. 257 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,093 That's why we're giving you an offer. 258 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:22,162 And we'll be helping you do that a lot faster. 259 00:09:22,162 --> 00:09:23,129 Um... 260 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:24,431 Well, it is the Shark Tank. 261 00:09:24,431 --> 00:09:27,066 You knew you were going to run into this. 262 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:28,435 You are in a difficult situation, doctor, 263 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:31,905 with this idea of putting preference above others. 264 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:34,040 My offer is $1 million for 10%. 265 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,009 But they're just standard common shares, 266 00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:37,477 and I expect to have the option to invest 267 00:09:37,477 --> 00:09:41,114 in the future more if I wish, but I will be diluted. 268 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:42,582 Anyway, you have two offers on the table. 269 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:45,985 I have to agree with Kevin on this one, where I can't -- 270 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:47,921 I can't do the non-dilutive shares. 271 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:49,189 No way you can do that. 272 00:09:49,189 --> 00:09:51,224 So what if we were at the 6%? 273 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:53,026 Yeah, I mean, then that's just too much. 274 00:09:53,026 --> 00:09:54,294 That's just too much equity that -- 275 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:55,462 Well, then what are we talking about here, Doc? 276 00:09:55,462 --> 00:09:59,265 The offer that I'd given, the $1 million for 2%, 277 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:03,036 and then an extra 2% in advisory shares, that is dilutive. 278 00:10:03,036 --> 00:10:04,170 So basically, Dr. Aadeel, 279 00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:06,739 your counter is $1 million for 4%. 280 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:07,340 4%. 281 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:09,175 What do you guys want to do? 282 00:10:09,175 --> 00:10:10,910 Why don't we split the baby? 283 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:12,145 [ Laughs ] 284 00:10:12,145 --> 00:10:13,947 Go to 5% total. 285 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:16,082 Go to 5%, and you've got a deal. 286 00:10:16,249 --> 00:10:18,785 I would do that deal at 5%. 287 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:19,252 No. Also. 288 00:10:19,252 --> 00:10:21,888 Ooh. No, no. 289 00:10:21,888 --> 00:10:23,156 Wow. 290 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:24,190 We'll do the deal together. 291 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:26,326 I got two Sharks. That's right. 292 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,495 And two is better than that one. 293 00:10:28,495 --> 00:10:30,463 No, I am the Shark for this deal. 294 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,398 Would you want to go in with Daymond and Lori? 295 00:10:32,398 --> 00:10:34,167 Sure, I would, of course. 296 00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:35,335 Um... 297 00:10:35,335 --> 00:10:37,337 But here is my proposal. Okay. 298 00:10:37,337 --> 00:10:40,073 If Kevin wants to come in with Lori and I, 299 00:10:40,073 --> 00:10:43,076 we would all get two and a half shares. 300 00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:44,377 Seven and a half, right? 301 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:46,146 It's two and a half, two and a half, two and a half. 302 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:47,947 You know that would blow you up huge on StartEngine. 303 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:50,483 Yeah, deal. That's a big deal. 304 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:53,253 Um, but then I'm giving away more equity 305 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:54,354 for the same amount of money. 306 00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:55,488 But you're getting three Sharks. 307 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:57,357 I personally think on this deal, the more Sharks, 308 00:10:57,357 --> 00:10:59,259 the better in terms of getting the story out. 309 00:10:59,259 --> 00:11:02,328 So seven and a half, according to Daymond, three Sharks. 310 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:04,063 You'll have to take a few hundred basis points 311 00:11:04,063 --> 00:11:05,265 out of your own stash to do it. 312 00:11:05,265 --> 00:11:06,432 And these are common shares. 313 00:11:06,432 --> 00:11:08,368 Sure. I mean, I would do it 314 00:11:08,368 --> 00:11:11,504 for six because I think there's symmetry to that. 315 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,374 If he said six, would you do the deal. 316 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,142 For all three of us? Yeah. 317 00:11:16,142 --> 00:11:17,277 Daymond, would you do it? 318 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,779 I mean, I don't want -- Take 200 basis points. 319 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:23,316 I'll agree with whatever you want. 320 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:25,151 Alright. I would do it. 321 00:11:25,151 --> 00:11:26,452 Herjavec: $1 million for 6%. 322 00:11:26,452 --> 00:11:28,121 You better take it because you can see 323 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,889 they can't agree on anything. 324 00:11:29,889 --> 00:11:30,456 [ Laughter ] 325 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:32,926 Dr. Aadeel, what will you do? 326 00:11:34,194 --> 00:11:36,062 I think we've got a deal. 327 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:37,063 Whoo! 328 00:11:37,063 --> 00:11:39,165 Alright, there we go. 329 00:11:39,165 --> 00:11:41,834 I'm confused. Do you give us the money? 330 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:42,468 [ Laughter ] 331 00:11:42,468 --> 00:11:44,170 Well, you'll be making money, right? 332 00:11:44,170 --> 00:11:46,072 You're not shaking me, my hand with that. 333 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:47,173 There you go. 334 00:11:47,173 --> 00:11:48,942 Absolutely fantastic presentation. 335 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:50,143 Thank you. 336 00:11:50,143 --> 00:11:51,110 Good job. 337 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,979 Thanks for your service, sir. 338 00:11:54,347 --> 00:11:55,448 Yeah! Yeah! 339 00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:58,885 Let's do it. Let's do it. Boom! 340 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:00,053 [ Laughs ] 341 00:12:00,053 --> 00:12:01,321 This is great. 342 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:03,690 Akhtar: Making this deal with the Sharks is going to be huge 343 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:06,292 in terms of getting our production capacity up there 344 00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:08,228 and really helping all the people 345 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:09,562 around the world that could use this hand, 346 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:12,065 and that's what I'm most excited about. 347 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:16,135 Narrator: In season 14, Jeremy and Kaitlyn Carlson 348 00:12:16,135 --> 00:12:17,437 made a deal with Barbara Corcoran 349 00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:20,607 for their European inspired ice cream treat, Crispy Cones. 350 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:23,309 I am the person that knows more about franchise 351 00:12:23,309 --> 00:12:24,477 and food than anybody here. Jeremy: Totally. 352 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:26,446 Barbara, we'll take your offer. Okay. 353 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:28,414 Narrator: Let's see what they're up to now. 354 00:12:28,414 --> 00:12:32,418 Crispy Cones is a traditional cinnamon sugar dough cone 355 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:34,320 that we grill rotisserie style 356 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,389 fresh to order right in front of the guest. 357 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:39,125 Coming into the Tank, we were looking for a Shark 358 00:12:39,125 --> 00:12:40,727 who specialized in franchising. 359 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:43,463 Partnering with Barbara Corcoran gave us that expertise. 360 00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:45,198 Within 24 hours of airing, 361 00:12:45,198 --> 00:12:47,333 we had hundreds of franchise applications. 362 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:48,534 In fact, we had a franchise location 363 00:12:48,534 --> 00:12:50,503 from every single state in the country. 364 00:12:50,503 --> 00:12:53,640 The franchisees are the key to this whole operation. 365 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,442 The happier they are, the better they do, the better you do. 366 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:59,545 I knew it was a great product, but what I didn't know 367 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:02,415 is I had the makings of a great franchise. 368 00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:04,384 I think these self-serving kiosks 369 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,486 are the best thing you did the first year in business, 370 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:07,687 and look what it's doing for you. 371 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:11,524 Crispy Cones became so popular that they needed a solution 372 00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:14,327 to how many people who wanted them and wanted them fast. 373 00:13:14,327 --> 00:13:17,330 So they used my money to launch the self-serve kiosk 374 00:13:17,330 --> 00:13:20,033 so no customers would ever wait in line. 375 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:20,667 Hello, everybody! 376 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,403 Thank you so much for coming to the grand opening 377 00:13:23,403 --> 00:13:25,638 of our Crispy Cones Tempe location. 378 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:29,442 Today, Crispy Cones has sold 18 locations in Arizona, 379 00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:32,312 Utah, Idaho, Florida, and Texas. 380 00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:34,180 Jeremy: Our new technology gathers data 381 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:35,548 which provides us valuable feedback 382 00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:38,584 on store cleanliness, store experience, and quality. 383 00:13:38,584 --> 00:13:41,688 It has increased our overall revenues 60%. 384 00:13:41,688 --> 00:13:43,489 In the five years before "Shark Tank", 385 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:46,326 we were just under $500,000 in sales. 386 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:47,794 Kaitlyn: It's been seven months since "Shark Tank", 387 00:13:47,794 --> 00:13:52,165 and we now have surpassed over $2 million in lifetime sales. 388 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:54,500 Jeremy: I have been watching "Shark Tank" 389 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,635 since middle school. 390 00:13:55,635 --> 00:13:57,437 I basically grew up with Barbara, 391 00:13:57,437 --> 00:13:58,671 watching her on television, 392 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:00,406 and never once in my life did I think 393 00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:03,042 that she would become a partner in my business. 394 00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:04,243 Whoo! 395 00:14:04,243 --> 00:14:05,311 We were on top of the world 396 00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:06,346 after we had left "Shark Tank." 397 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,081 Kaitlyn: That moment was one of the best 398 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:08,548 moments of our lives. 399 00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:10,450 That is until a few months later 400 00:14:10,450 --> 00:14:14,253 when we welcomed our first baby girl into the world, Macy. 401 00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:16,689 Hey, how are you, Macy? 402 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,492 Our advice to other entrepreneurs is to dream big, 403 00:14:19,492 --> 00:14:23,029 work like crazy for your goals, and never give up. 404 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:29,102 ♪♪ 405 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:36,442 Herjavec: Oh, this is dessert, Lori. 406 00:14:36,442 --> 00:14:40,113 I think we will be chowing down. 407 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,716 Narrator: Next in the Tank is a professionally trained chef 408 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:47,253 with a line of surprisingly decadent desserts. 409 00:14:47,253 --> 00:14:53,593 ♪♪ 410 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:56,462 Hi, Sharks. My name is Alejandra. 411 00:14:56,462 --> 00:14:57,497 And I'm Rahmi. 412 00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:58,731 We're from San Francisco, California. 413 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:00,767 We're seeking $100,000 investment 414 00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:03,736 in exchange for 20% equity in our business. 415 00:15:03,736 --> 00:15:06,806 Sharks, we create delicious, healthy, 416 00:15:06,806 --> 00:15:10,443 protein rich desserts like this petit gateau, 417 00:15:10,443 --> 00:15:15,181 concocted with ingredients like pasteurized chicken breast. 418 00:15:15,181 --> 00:15:17,416 Greiner: What? Alright. 419 00:15:17,416 --> 00:15:20,386 And even this beautifully mouthwatering 420 00:15:20,386 --> 00:15:23,356 crafted cake made with wild elk, 421 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:26,159 fermented goat milk, and organic berries. 422 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,161 Was not expecting that. 423 00:15:28,161 --> 00:15:29,328 Not at all. 424 00:15:29,328 --> 00:15:30,763 Even nature inspired pastries 425 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:33,466 like this rose shaped dessert made with 426 00:15:33,466 --> 00:15:34,700 wild antelope heart. Heart? 427 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,235 And organic beetroot cream. 428 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:36,736 Oh. 429 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:38,704 Sharks -- Don't take our word for it 430 00:15:38,704 --> 00:15:40,773 that these are absolutely delicious. 431 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:43,409 You're gonna have to take it up with our head chef. 432 00:15:43,409 --> 00:15:45,945 [ Whistles ] Achilles. 433 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,581 Greiner: Oh. 434 00:15:48,581 --> 00:15:50,283 Come on, big guy. 435 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:53,686 [ Sharks "Aww"ing ] 436 00:15:53,686 --> 00:15:56,355 Herjavec: It's a mastiff. 437 00:15:56,355 --> 00:15:58,157 John: Oh, my God. 438 00:15:58,157 --> 00:16:00,193 Hello. Hello. 439 00:16:00,193 --> 00:16:02,328 That's a big ass dog. 440 00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:03,496 Good job, buddy. 441 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,598 Oh, he's so cute. 442 00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:08,234 I did not see that coming. 443 00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:09,468 Yeah, I didn't at all. 444 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:11,370 Rahmi: Sharks, we've always felt our dogs 445 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:12,738 are an extension of our family, 446 00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:15,541 and celebrating their birthdays and special occasions 447 00:16:15,541 --> 00:16:17,410 is something we love to do. 448 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:18,711 That's why we craft this line of cakes 449 00:16:18,711 --> 00:16:20,713 and pastries specifically dedicated 450 00:16:20,713 --> 00:16:22,682 to our animal family members, 451 00:16:22,682 --> 00:16:25,585 inspired by my decades of culinary training. 452 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,753 That's right. I'm a professionally trained chef. 453 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:31,591 And I always knew my prestigious Le Cordon Bleu degree 454 00:16:31,591 --> 00:16:33,526 would go to good use. 455 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:35,561 Not only do we offer incredible pastries 456 00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:36,696 for our pups, 457 00:16:36,696 --> 00:16:39,498 but Dogue hosts the world's first tasting menu 458 00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:42,301 where your pup is the star guest. 459 00:16:42,301 --> 00:16:42,802 That's right, Sharks. 460 00:16:42,802 --> 00:16:45,304 Every Sunday at our Bon Appetit Cafe, 461 00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:46,405 we offer a prefixed... Aw. 462 00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:47,573 ...multi-course tasting menu 463 00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:48,774 with dishes made with 464 00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:52,211 wild Moroccan sardines and cuttlefish. 465 00:16:52,211 --> 00:16:53,312 Ew. 466 00:16:53,312 --> 00:16:53,813 Wait, there's more. 467 00:16:53,813 --> 00:16:56,682 Not only do we offer incredible pastries, 468 00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:59,685 but we also offer prepackaged meals 469 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:03,689 where all of their food is made with fresh, whole foods. 470 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,658 Sharks, We've always loved animals, 471 00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:08,394 and we decided to turn that love into a business. 472 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:10,363 So who wants to join our pack? 473 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,597 Bon appetit! Bon appetit! 474 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:12,698 Greiner: Oh, my gosh. Herjavec: Wow. 475 00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:13,866 Wow. In front of you 476 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:15,568 you have some of our core offerings. 477 00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:16,836 I know we're swimming with the Sharks today, 478 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:18,571 but if you feel like running with the wolves, 479 00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:20,673 you can feel free to take a bite if you're brave enough. 480 00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:23,509 Well, like, really, I'm kind of afraid. 481 00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:24,610 [ Laughter ] 482 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:25,578 [ Gags ] 483 00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:26,712 Are we supposed to eat it? 484 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,614 No, no, I said, if you're brave enough. 485 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:30,483 Greiner: Oh, we're really not. 486 00:17:30,483 --> 00:17:32,318 Cuban: Daymond is. 487 00:17:32,318 --> 00:17:33,653 It was disgusting? 488 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:34,887 Daymond, why are you eating it? 489 00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:37,790 Alejandra: They're all human grade ingredients, too. 490 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:39,692 It looked good the way he was eating it, man. 491 00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:40,693 [ Laughs ] 492 00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,662 So it's a retail establishment? 493 00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:45,031 So we've got a retail store in San Francisco, 494 00:17:45,031 --> 00:17:47,767 a brick and mortar location. How many square feet? 495 00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:49,869 So it's a little bit over 1,600 feet. 496 00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:51,671 Ow, wow. Okay. It's your only location? 497 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:53,572 It's our only location. Herjavec: How long have you been there? 498 00:17:53,572 --> 00:17:54,907 What do you gross a month? What do you gross a month? 499 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,842 So we've been there for just about a year, 500 00:17:56,842 --> 00:17:59,779 and we're just starting to get up to around 20K a month. 501 00:17:59,779 --> 00:18:01,747 Okay. You're profitable on a monthly basis? 502 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:02,982 We're basically breaking even. 503 00:18:02,982 --> 00:18:06,852 So you're asking us to invest in a retail location 504 00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:09,088 because you're not selling these any other way, right? 505 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,824 Essentially what we do is we manufacture dog food, right? 506 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:13,859 The core of our business, the core of our sales, 507 00:18:13,859 --> 00:18:15,928 comes from prepackaged fresh food for dogs. 508 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:17,730 What I'm asking you to invest in 509 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:20,600 is helping us bring this to a much broader reach. 510 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,502 Our goals are to get our pastries 511 00:18:23,502 --> 00:18:24,770 all over the country, basically. 512 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:25,838 How are you going to do that? 513 00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:27,406 That's why we're here, guys. 514 00:18:27,406 --> 00:18:28,441 [ Laughter ] 515 00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:29,608 That's what we need from you. 516 00:18:29,608 --> 00:18:32,445 Is all the dog food like this? 517 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:34,413 No. Absolutely not. Okay. 518 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:35,514 What is the -- 519 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:37,783 The prepackaged meals look like slop. 520 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:39,018 With the bag of dog food, 521 00:18:39,018 --> 00:18:41,620 what do you sell it for, how much does it cost? 522 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:42,688 So it's going to cost me, let's say, 523 00:18:42,688 --> 00:18:44,624 about $2 per eight ounce pack. 524 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:45,558 To make it? Right. 525 00:18:45,558 --> 00:18:46,726 And then you sell it for how much? 526 00:18:46,726 --> 00:18:48,694 I'm going to sell them for about $8 or so, roughly. 527 00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:50,830 Okay. Now let's go to an individual pastry. 528 00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:52,031 What does it cost you to make it? 529 00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:53,899 What do you sell it for? So that white one 530 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:55,634 in front of you, I think it's on your top right, 531 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:58,671 costs me about 85 cents to make. I sell it for $15. 532 00:18:58,671 --> 00:19:00,473 What?! So higher margins -- 533 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:01,741 $15? 534 00:19:01,741 --> 00:19:02,742 So wait. Why would anybody -- 535 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,777 For the grams. 536 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:06,445 For the gram. $15. 537 00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:07,813 For the gram. On this. 538 00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:09,515 So this is our secret sauce. 539 00:19:09,515 --> 00:19:10,950 This is really what captures attention. 540 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:13,452 We know these days it's all about capturing attention, 541 00:19:13,452 --> 00:19:14,687 getting eyes on what you do. 542 00:19:14,687 --> 00:19:15,855 And it's beautiful, by the way. 543 00:19:15,855 --> 00:19:17,656 Thank you. Herjavec: So the businesses 544 00:19:17,656 --> 00:19:20,860 I've got an incredible Instagram worthy hook, 545 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:24,497 I come in, hey, by the way, buy our dog food. 546 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:25,965 How do you scale that then? 547 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:29,101 So the idea of scale is where we come to you guys, right? 548 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:32,705 We know what we're good at, and we see where we're lacking. 549 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:35,641 What percentage of your overall sales 550 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:37,576 are these specialty products? 551 00:19:37,576 --> 00:19:38,944 Last month, we sold about 20 grand. 552 00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:41,514 We made about 11 grand worth of dog food sales. 553 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:42,515 Okay. Right. 554 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:43,649 The rest were ancillary products, 555 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:44,817 including these pastries. 556 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:45,985 O'Leary: And that's where I come in and say, 557 00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:47,620 "Give me --" So you're almost 50/50. 558 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:49,055 Let me buy some fresh dog food from you. 559 00:19:49,055 --> 00:19:52,525 Not in a pastry form, just high quality food. 560 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:53,192 Right. How long does it last? 561 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:55,528 So if you keep it in the freezer, they're vacuum packed. 562 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:56,662 They last well over a year. 563 00:19:56,662 --> 00:19:57,830 Oh they're frozen. They're frozen. Yeah. 564 00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:00,766 The challenge you have is shipping refrigerated goods 565 00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:01,734 is a problem, right? Right. 566 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,536 It's expensive. 567 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,137 So the problem for me is, 568 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:08,974 is I don't see this as something that is really scalable. 569 00:20:08,974 --> 00:20:11,710 I see it as a great little business for you, 570 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:12,845 but I don't see it as something 571 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,780 that you'll ship nationwide and blow up. 572 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:17,049 I think it's too difficult and too costly. 573 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:20,019 And for all those reasons, I wish you very good luck. 574 00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:21,187 Alejandra: Thank you so much. But I'm out. 575 00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:23,589 Cuban: Guys, I agree with Lori. I think she nailed it. 576 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:24,790 It's a great business for you guys. 577 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:26,892 You love it, obviously, but it's going to be 578 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:29,929 really, really hard to scale to return any money 579 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,764 at all to an investor. 580 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:32,865 So for those reasons, I'm out. 581 00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:33,866 Thank you, Mark. Thank you. 582 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:35,801 We appreciate your words. Thank you. 583 00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:39,772 This side hustle with the pastries is absolutely crazy 584 00:20:39,772 --> 00:20:41,807 and fantastic for social, I get it. 585 00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:43,609 We've never seen this on "Shark Tank." 586 00:20:43,609 --> 00:20:44,810 Never. And we've been doing this 587 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:45,945 for 15 years. Right. 588 00:20:45,945 --> 00:20:47,746 So you have a hook here and a big one. 589 00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:49,849 And America's going to see this and go nuts, 590 00:20:49,849 --> 00:20:50,983 but you can't get it to them. 591 00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:53,018 That's the problem with the deal. 592 00:20:53,018 --> 00:20:55,921 Look, I like you guys, but this is not an investment for me. 593 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,423 I'm out. Thank you, Kevin. 594 00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:58,057 Thank you. 595 00:20:58,057 --> 00:21:00,726 You know, um, I think this is brilliant, 596 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:02,862 but there are the challenges, right? 597 00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:04,130 It's refrigerated goods. 598 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:07,600 You will not be able to get space in the traditional stores. 599 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,701 A lot of complications here. 600 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:09,902 But I think that you're going to do good 601 00:21:09,902 --> 00:21:12,838 if you just focus on this direct to consumer just by yourself. 602 00:21:12,838 --> 00:21:14,974 Great business. I'm out. 603 00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:16,142 Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. 604 00:21:16,142 --> 00:21:17,910 Herjavec: I know the pet space very well. 605 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:21,013 Had one of my best exits out of it, one of the fastest. 606 00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:22,982 But you know when you come into the Shark Tank, 607 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:24,850 you've got to have a game plan. 608 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:29,822 And what I heard you say is, "We don't know how to ship it." 609 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,724 We don't know whether we should do retail. 610 00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:33,058 We don't know any of that. Help us." 611 00:21:33,058 --> 00:21:34,160 But you got to have a game plan. 612 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,095 You got to come up here with some way 613 00:21:36,095 --> 00:21:37,696 you're going to scale, and you stood here -- 614 00:21:37,696 --> 00:21:39,031 We're looking for a strategic partner 615 00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:41,834 because we could raise the money that we're asking for 616 00:21:41,834 --> 00:21:43,769 from friends and family. Like we -- 617 00:21:43,769 --> 00:21:45,938 But what's the plan? What's the plan? 618 00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:48,641 We need help with getting the whole 619 00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:49,875 packaging to do it right. 620 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:51,944 We don't want to just jump in to start shipping. 621 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:55,080 We want to do it correctly from the get go in order 622 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,950 to just save the integrity of the product. 623 00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:59,818 I guess as an investor, 624 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,555 I want to know what the plan is, like Kevin said. 625 00:22:02,555 --> 00:22:03,289 It's going to air. 626 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:06,225 Everybody in America is going to say, "I want one!" 627 00:22:06,225 --> 00:22:07,993 Robert -- They're going to go to your website, 628 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,662 and you know what you're going to say? 629 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,063 "I can't ship it to you." 630 00:22:11,063 --> 00:22:13,132 Look, guys, if you came up with an answer, 631 00:22:13,132 --> 00:22:15,000 not the perfect answer, any answer, 632 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,168 I would have loved to get on board. 633 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:19,705 I love animals, but you don't have those answers today. 634 00:22:19,705 --> 00:22:20,773 I'm out. Thank you, Robert. 635 00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:21,807 But I'll buy the dog. 636 00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:23,075 No, no, he's not for sale. No. 637 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:24,944 Never. Good luck, you guys. 638 00:22:24,944 --> 00:22:26,846 Thank you so much. Thanks for your time, guys. 639 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:27,980 Really appreciate it. 640 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:28,981 Good job. Thank you so much. 641 00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:30,015 Alejandra: Achilles, ready? 642 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:31,717 Come on, let's go, let's go. 643 00:22:31,717 --> 00:22:33,552 Come on. 644 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:36,822 Let's go. Let's go, big guy. 645 00:22:36,822 --> 00:22:39,091 It's really exciting to be able to come on to 646 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:41,860 a stage like this and hear such invaluable insight 647 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,896 from the Sharks, to be able to hear 648 00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:46,198 their direction for us, to give their opinions, 649 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,667 honestly, is worth more than anything 650 00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:50,402 we could put a price on. 651 00:22:52,071 --> 00:22:53,872 Hello, "Shark Tank" fans. 652 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:54,974 We'd like to alert you. 653 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:57,009 There are a lot of deceptive ads out there 654 00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:58,978 claiming to be "Shark Tank" products, 655 00:22:58,978 --> 00:23:00,846 and in many cases, they are not. 656 00:23:00,846 --> 00:23:04,183 To be sure, go to abc.com 657 00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:07,953 to check out the full list of "Shark Tank" businesses. 658 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,755 If a business is not listed, 659 00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:11,857 it is not a "Shark Tank" business. 660 00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:14,627 Please be aware and stay safe out there. 661 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,270 ♪♪ 662 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:26,939 Narrator: Next in the Tank is a kinder way 663 00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:29,675 to deal with a pesky problem. 664 00:23:29,675 --> 00:23:37,049 ♪♪ 665 00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:39,952 Hey, Sharks! I'm Justin from Orange County, California, 666 00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:43,856 seeking $50,000 for 10% of my company. 667 00:23:43,856 --> 00:23:45,991 Imagine you're hosting a dinner party, 668 00:23:45,991 --> 00:23:47,926 and right as you're about to serve the food, 669 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:49,295 an unexpected guest arrives. 670 00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:53,732 Go ahead, Sharks, lift your plate covers and dig in. 671 00:23:53,732 --> 00:23:54,967 Oh. 672 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:55,901 [ Gasps ] 673 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:57,636 [ Laughter ] 674 00:23:57,636 --> 00:23:58,771 That's right. Bugs. 675 00:23:58,771 --> 00:23:59,772 Greiner: Oh, my God. 676 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:02,207 That scared the crap out of me. 677 00:24:02,341 --> 00:24:05,444 Now, Mr. Wonderful might be all about crushing cockroaches, 678 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:09,148 but what about those of us who'd rather not take a life? 679 00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:13,085 That's where Cup-a-Bug comes in. 680 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,287 We've made it... 681 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:19,191 uh, more convenient to catch a bug than to kill it. 682 00:24:19,191 --> 00:24:23,729 There's -- there's -- 683 00:24:23,729 --> 00:24:24,997 That's okay. Start over. 684 00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:26,265 Cuban: That's okay. You made it more convenient 685 00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:27,299 to capture a bug than to kill it. 686 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,901 Than to kill it. Huang: That's right. 687 00:24:28,901 --> 00:24:30,135 Using it is super simple. 688 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:33,038 Just place the cup over the bug and pull the handle back. 689 00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,239 This closes the lid, 690 00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:38,043 and now your bug is ready to be released back into nature. 691 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:39,078 Cuban: Good for you. 692 00:24:39,078 --> 00:24:41,080 Or on your neighbor's doorstep. 693 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,614 It's up to you. 694 00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:43,248 [ Laughter ] 695 00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:45,184 Cup-a-Bug features, a long arm, 696 00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:48,153 and a tilt mechanism that works like your wrist, 697 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,689 allowing you to catch bugs from floor to ceiling. 698 00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:51,757 Oh, God! 699 00:24:51,757 --> 00:24:53,092 We even included a brush 700 00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:55,294 for getting bugs from out of corners. 701 00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:59,631 Think of Cup-a-Bug as an extension of your wrist. 702 00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:02,201 Um... 703 00:25:02,201 --> 00:25:03,936 You're good. Greiner: It's okay. 704 00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:05,104 You know what? Take a breath. Take a breath. 705 00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:07,406 I'm so nervous. And then think of it again. 706 00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:10,409 Whether it's catching bugs from off your ceiling 707 00:25:10,409 --> 00:25:14,012 or catching cockroaches from your kitchen floor, 708 00:25:14,012 --> 00:25:16,382 Cup-a-Bug is the hero we've all been waiting for. 709 00:25:16,382 --> 00:25:20,219 So, Sharks, who's ready to see what all the buzz is about 710 00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:22,187 and infest in Cup-a-Bug? 711 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:23,956 Good job, Justin. Good job. 712 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:25,991 Yeah! Thank you, thank you. 713 00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:27,426 In my household, I am the bug guy. 714 00:25:27,426 --> 00:25:29,161 My wife, my kids... Yeah, women freak. 715 00:25:29,161 --> 00:25:31,163 ...will not going anywhere near a bug, 716 00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:33,198 so it's like, "Dad!" 717 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:34,967 Exactly. You know, from the whole house. 718 00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:36,301 So, how much does this cost? 719 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:39,204 We retail it for $40, including shipping. 720 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:40,973 What does it cost you to make? 721 00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:44,143 It cost us to make, uh, $10 landed 722 00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:46,078 and then about $7 to make. 723 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:47,079 Herjavec: That's not bad. 724 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,947 Justin, do you have any sales? 725 00:25:48,947 --> 00:25:50,983 We do. Yeah, we did a Kickstarter 726 00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:52,317 that did about 800 units. 727 00:25:52,317 --> 00:25:55,054 So that was $28,000 roughly. 728 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:56,088 Not bad. Yeah. 729 00:25:56,088 --> 00:25:57,990 And when was that? What month? 730 00:25:57,990 --> 00:26:01,460 That was last year, um, in, uh, March. 731 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,963 And then this year, we started selling our first 732 00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:06,398 production run in beginning of June. 733 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:09,068 So it's been a little bit over three months, 734 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,970 and we've done about 1,200 units in sales. 735 00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:13,038 What is that in dollars? 736 00:26:13,038 --> 00:26:14,306 That's $48,000, give or take. 737 00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:16,074 Yeah. And that's all been organic. 738 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:18,277 Justin, how did you -- are you a bug guy? 739 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:20,179 Is this something you came up with for fun? 740 00:26:20,179 --> 00:26:21,313 Or a bug hater? 741 00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:22,448 Yeah. Tell us the story. 742 00:26:22,448 --> 00:26:25,284 I would be more on the bug sympathizer side. 743 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:28,554 Um, I studied mechanical engineering, 744 00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:31,390 and then afterwards, I went to work for my dad, 745 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:33,525 and we designed electric motors. 746 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:36,395 I decided that I wanted to follow in his footsteps 747 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:38,397 and become my own entrepreneur. 748 00:26:38,397 --> 00:26:42,134 So every night, I would just keep studying engineering 749 00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:43,936 through free online courseware. 750 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:45,070 My hero, my hero. I know you guys 751 00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:46,905 are lifelong learners, too. 752 00:26:46,905 --> 00:26:48,140 I'm the same way. 753 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,209 And eventually, I was able to get the skills 754 00:26:50,209 --> 00:26:52,411 to design something like Cup-a-Bug. 755 00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:56,048 I'm just terrified of bugs, even from a child. 756 00:26:56,048 --> 00:26:57,516 I get it. And as I grew up, 757 00:26:57,516 --> 00:27:00,419 I just started to feel bad, you know, squishing them. 758 00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:03,055 I feel bad when I squish a bug, too. 759 00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,923 That could be an ancestor of mine, 760 00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:06,258 for all I know, coming. 761 00:27:06,258 --> 00:27:07,226 Probably is. 762 00:27:07,226 --> 00:27:08,427 I don't know if I feel bad. 763 00:27:08,427 --> 00:27:10,162 What other things do you design? 764 00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:12,197 Um, yeah, I've done a lot of board game accessories. 765 00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:15,334 I did like planters, certain desk organizers, 766 00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:18,103 basically anything that's under like the nerd umbrella. 767 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:20,038 You're a serial inventor. I like this guy. 768 00:27:20,038 --> 00:27:21,473 Justin, is this one of them? What is this? 769 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,442 No, that's just something I specifically designed 770 00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:25,177 for you guys today. You designed this? 771 00:27:25,177 --> 00:27:26,378 Herjavec: You designed this? 772 00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:28,013 Yeah. Greiner: It's a bug-a-pult? 773 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:30,148 That is so cool. It's a bug-a-pult! 774 00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:31,316 It's a catapult for bugs? 775 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,318 Huang: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 776 00:27:33,318 --> 00:27:34,486 You guys are welcome to have it if you want. 777 00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:37,122 Wait, it doesn't come -- You're not going to sell these? 778 00:27:37,122 --> 00:27:38,223 I mean, we could expand the product line. 779 00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:40,325 You could definitely. 780 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:41,360 Out of all your products, 781 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,162 are you most excited about this? 782 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:46,098 Yeah, this is really not just a product for me, 783 00:27:46,098 --> 00:27:48,200 but it's a showcase of all the skills 784 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,170 I've put into my studies in engineering. 785 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:53,338 I love it. You know what? 786 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:56,408 So this includes you. It's 10% of you, right? 787 00:27:56,408 --> 00:27:59,311 It's 10% of not just Cup-a-Bug, 788 00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:02,347 but like the future of my entrepreneurial experience. 789 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,149 So I'll give you. 50K for 20%. 790 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:05,884 Ooh. 791 00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:06,518 Wow. Yes? 792 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,121 Greiner: Do it. I'll do the same. 793 00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:12,324 No, he's not gonna do it. Just me. 794 00:28:12,324 --> 00:28:14,126 Why don't why don't we get one -- 795 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,461 I'll give him a little bit more. 60K for 30%. 796 00:28:16,461 --> 00:28:19,164 Are you guys in together? Greiner: Oh, you're going in together? 797 00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:20,399 No. No! Yeah! 798 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:21,967 I want you to myself. 799 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:23,135 [ Chuckles ] Greedy. 800 00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:24,436 Would either of you be willing, 801 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:27,005 since we're going up in equity, 802 00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:28,173 would you be willing to go up? 803 00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:30,275 I'll go up to 75K. How's that? 804 00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:31,376 For 20%? 805 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:33,312 Geek to geek? Geek to geek? 806 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:38,116 All right, Mark, join me in my entrepreneurial journey. 807 00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:40,319 Let's go! Thank you so much. 808 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:41,486 That's great, man. Let's go. 809 00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:43,522 John: That's great. Greiner: Congratulations. 810 00:28:43,522 --> 00:28:45,224 I love it, man. It's awesome. 811 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,525 We'll have so much fun. I appreciate it. 812 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,527 Well, I'll be throwing projects after you left and right. 813 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,296 Anytime you have an idea, you can run it by me. 814 00:28:51,296 --> 00:28:54,166 Code, hardware. Fun stuff. 815 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:56,001 I love that. Thank you so much. Yeah. 816 00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:57,169 I appreciate it. Thank you. 817 00:28:57,169 --> 00:28:58,370 Herjavec: Great job. Justin, fantastic. 818 00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:59,538 That you guys so much. Yeah. 819 00:28:59,538 --> 00:29:02,274 You got paid 75,000 to get a filthy rich billionaire back 820 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:04,309 every idea you have that he agrees upon 821 00:29:04,309 --> 00:29:05,944 for the rest of your life. 822 00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:06,478 I know, it's amazing. 823 00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:09,014 He's gonna be working for you later on. 824 00:29:09,014 --> 00:29:10,248 I hope so. I hope so. 825 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:13,018 You know what? That is the power of the cockroach. 826 00:29:13,018 --> 00:29:13,518 [ Laughter ] 827 00:29:13,518 --> 00:29:15,153 That's the power of "Shark Tank." 828 00:29:15,153 --> 00:29:16,355 All right, man, congratulations. 829 00:29:16,355 --> 00:29:18,090 Congratulations. Congratulations. 830 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:19,258 Talk soon. 831 00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:21,360 Oh my goodness. 832 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,594 I can't believe it. 833 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:26,465 Mark Cuban with me in my entire entrepreneurial journey 834 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:30,502 is honestly amazing, and I'm so happy right now. 835 00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:33,238 Did not expect that to happen. 836 00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:36,341 Entrepreneurship is honestly a tough road, 837 00:29:36,341 --> 00:29:39,544 especially when there's not a whole lot of guidance. 838 00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:43,582 And I thank you guys on "Shark Tank" 839 00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:48,086 for helping me get a connection like this. 840 00:29:48,086 --> 00:29:50,989 This is life changing, honestly. 841 00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:53,392 Oh, my God. He's great, man. 842 00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,427 hen he said that he designed this just for us. 843 00:29:55,427 --> 00:29:56,561 Yeah, I know. I think you like 844 00:29:56,561 --> 00:29:57,663 the catapult more than the bug thing. 845 00:29:57,663 --> 00:30:00,899 Yes. No, this this is utilitarian, right? 846 00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:06,271 Sharks, I love to create and invent. 847 00:30:06,271 --> 00:30:09,641 When I was 7 years old, I invented the Baby Toon. 848 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:13,412 The Baby Toon is a combination of a baby spoon 849 00:30:13,412 --> 00:30:15,714 and a teether all in one. 850 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:19,718 When Cassidy from Baby Toon came out, she blew me away. 851 00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:22,487 I want to show other kids that they can be open 852 00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:24,489 to opportunities they have at school, 853 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:26,391 or even at home to create and invent. 854 00:30:26,391 --> 00:30:29,094 I just really hope I inspire them. 855 00:30:29,094 --> 00:30:30,462 It's a dream come true. 856 00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:32,564 She did the whole pitch herself, and I thought, 857 00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:35,467 "I have got to just go scoop up this girl 858 00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:38,403 and give her a deal and become her mentor." 859 00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:39,538 You have a deal. 860 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,139 Cuban: Congratulations. 861 00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:42,374 [ Applause ] 862 00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,376 Greiner: Oh, my gosh, you are just amazing. 863 00:30:44,376 --> 00:30:46,878 Thank you. Amazing. 864 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,585 ♪♪ 865 00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,288 Narrator: Next up are entrepreneurs who believe 866 00:30:56,288 --> 00:30:59,224 their product is cooler than the rest. 867 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:08,467 ♪♪ 868 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:09,568 Together: What's up Sharks? 869 00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:11,570 I'm Dave. And I'm Joe. 870 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:15,474 And we're the twins that founded Coldest! 871 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:19,277 We started this company in Naples, Florida! 872 00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:22,380 And, Sharks, it gets so hot out there. 873 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:25,217 And so we wanted to create the coldest things. 874 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:28,086 To help you stay colder longer. 875 00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:29,488 How cold, Dave? 876 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:33,058 This much colder! 877 00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:34,359 [ Laughter ] 878 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,661 Greiner: Oh, my God! 879 00:31:36,661 --> 00:31:39,197 We embarked on a journey to create 880 00:31:39,197 --> 00:31:41,466 the coldest products ever. 881 00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:43,435 This is our water bottle. 882 00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:45,437 We tested this bottle against 883 00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:49,374 50 plus of the largest hydration brands out there, 884 00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,243 and designed it to stay cold 885 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,645 for up to 36 plus hours long. 886 00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:56,548 With thoughtful design features such as this 887 00:31:56,548 --> 00:31:58,416 non-slip rubber bottom. 888 00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:00,685 It's 100% leak proof. 889 00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:03,455 And we're not just a hydration company. 890 00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:06,758 We wanted to create the coldest everything store, 891 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,428 so we designed and developed the coldest pillow. 892 00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,330 Because I was sick and tired 893 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:13,632 of sleeping sweaty at night. 894 00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:16,535 We also designed and developed the coolest dog bed 895 00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:18,670 and the coldest dog bowl because 896 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:20,739 dogs like to sleep cold, too. 897 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:25,143 We're seeking $600,000 for 2% equity in our business. 898 00:32:25,143 --> 00:32:26,478 Hello! Whoa! 899 00:32:26,478 --> 00:32:27,579 That's cold. What do you say, Sharks? 900 00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:30,482 Ice cold. Who wants to get burred 901 00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:34,419 in an avalanche of cash and join us on... 902 00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:36,521 Together: Expanding the universe 903 00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:39,357 of Coldest! 904 00:32:39,357 --> 00:32:41,326 Greiner: Whoo! 905 00:32:41,326 --> 00:32:43,562 [ Laughter ] 906 00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:45,397 Oh, my gosh. Okay. Wow. What do we got here? 907 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:46,531 Yes, what do we have? 908 00:32:46,531 --> 00:32:48,433 Dave: So that's a limitless series. 909 00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:51,503 It comes with three lids that are fully insulated 910 00:32:51,503 --> 00:32:53,538 and it stays cold 36 plus hours. 911 00:32:53,538 --> 00:32:54,606 Cuban: Tell us about you guys. 912 00:32:54,606 --> 00:32:56,374 It sounds like an interesting story. 913 00:32:56,374 --> 00:32:57,909 So my parents are both immigrants. 914 00:32:57,909 --> 00:33:00,712 My dad's from Jordan, and my mom's from the Philippines. 915 00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:03,915 They're both engineers, and so all our entire lives, 916 00:33:03,915 --> 00:33:07,385 like we thought engineering was the only route to go into. 917 00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:08,854 They tricked you, huh? They tricked us. 918 00:33:08,854 --> 00:33:11,690 And every day, I'd listen to business podcasts. 919 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:14,359 Because me and Joe, we've always been obsessed with business 920 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:15,393 our entire life. 921 00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:16,494 I had these side hustles. 922 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,663 They were software businesses, building websites 923 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:21,566 for other clients, so we knew how to build brands. 924 00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:24,603 But all of our side hustles, they kept on failing. 925 00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:25,837 But every single one of them, 926 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:27,706 we've learned like a really cool lesson along the way. 927 00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:32,644 And then 2015 came, and that's when Coldest begun. 928 00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:34,880 And so I had $14,000 saved up. 929 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,983 It was all my money, and I put it into the Coldest. 930 00:33:37,983 --> 00:33:40,552 The Coldest Water was what it was initially called. 931 00:33:40,552 --> 00:33:41,653 I finally chose a factory. 932 00:33:41,653 --> 00:33:44,389 I sent them the money, all $14,000. 933 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:45,857 It was for 1,000 water bottles. 934 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,860 And my older brother looks at me, and he's like, 935 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,296 "Do you really think you're going to sell 936 00:33:51,296 --> 00:33:52,831 1,000 water bottles? 937 00:33:52,831 --> 00:33:55,767 You know how competitive that market is?" 938 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:57,602 And I looked at him. "You're right." 939 00:33:57,602 --> 00:33:59,304 And so I messaged to the factory, I'm like, 940 00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:01,439 "We need to cancel that order." 941 00:34:01,439 --> 00:34:02,607 [ Laughter ] And she responds back 942 00:34:02,607 --> 00:34:03,708 in like a few minutes. 943 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:06,478 "We can't cancel the order. It's too late. 944 00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:08,446 Your order's are already on the factory line." 945 00:34:08,446 --> 00:34:09,714 And then two years later, 946 00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:12,951 we're doing about 900K in revenue. 947 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:14,886 Okay, so what happened with the thousand dollars? 948 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:16,755 Yeah, you just casually threw that out there. 949 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:18,556 We'll get into the numbers shortly. 950 00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:19,591 Yeah, but -- 951 00:34:19,591 --> 00:34:20,625 But what happened to that order? 952 00:34:20,625 --> 00:34:21,660 That one order. The first order. 953 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:22,627 1,000 bottles. 954 00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:23,728 They sold out. They sold out. 955 00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:25,463 Yeah, we sold out. John: In how long? 956 00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,531 You're horrible pitchers. 957 00:34:26,531 --> 00:34:29,467 In what period of time did that sell out? 958 00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:31,403 I would say it was probably within 959 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:32,370 the first five months. 960 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:33,939 We initially started on Amazon. 961 00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:37,342 We were pure Amazon Play, digital e-commerce, 962 00:34:37,342 --> 00:34:37,943 D-to-C company. 963 00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:41,580 In 2017, I said, "Let's start up an alliance." 964 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,882 You create the best, coldest product, 965 00:34:43,882 --> 00:34:46,751 and I'll work just focusing on the marketing. 966 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,954 And within a year, it was about 2018 now, 967 00:34:48,954 --> 00:34:52,590 we had hit $1 to $3 million in sales. 968 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:53,658 What? 969 00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:54,826 We're getting the numbers here, 970 00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:56,561 because this is the part -- you asked for $600,000. 971 00:34:56,561 --> 00:34:57,762 That's not chump change. 972 00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,731 Give us year by year revenue, okay? 973 00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:03,435 2017, we did 900K. Okay. 974 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:06,304 And then 2018, we did 2.5 mil. 975 00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:07,439 John: Whoa. 976 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:08,506 2019's 5.9. 977 00:35:08,506 --> 00:35:10,608 So 2020, we hit $9.3 million. 978 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:11,943 Whoa! What?! 979 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:13,578 Whoa. Nice. Dave: It started to scale nicely. 980 00:35:13,578 --> 00:35:14,612 And then? 981 00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:17,482 2021, it was $12.4 million. 982 00:35:17,482 --> 00:35:18,516 Whoa. It just kept on growing. 983 00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:19,584 And last year? 984 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:21,553 Last year we hit $15.1 million. 985 00:35:21,553 --> 00:35:22,487 Ooh! 986 00:35:22,487 --> 00:35:23,955 I've got to ask, why are you here? 987 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,590 What were your profits last year? 988 00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:26,691 Are you making any money on it? 989 00:35:26,691 --> 00:35:30,428 Hold on. So last year was negative-400K. 990 00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:34,899 You lost 400,000?! Why? 991 00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:37,669 Our inventory, it just keeps flying out. 992 00:35:37,669 --> 00:35:38,737 of the warehouse. 993 00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,438 Like it sells really fast. 994 00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:41,606 And we keep buying a lot, too. 995 00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:42,674 Joe: We keep buying a lot more. 996 00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:44,476 We're adding more colors. More SKUs. 997 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:45,710 Yeah. Uh, obviously, 998 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:47,646 as you can see, we're adding more categories, as well. 999 00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:50,382 All of our money since day one has been going 1000 00:35:50,382 --> 00:35:50,915 back into the brand. 1001 00:35:50,915 --> 00:35:53,518 What is your inventory worth right now? 1002 00:35:53,518 --> 00:35:55,820 Yeah, it's around $2.5 million. 1003 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,622 How many SKUs is that? 1004 00:35:57,622 --> 00:35:59,858 There's over 350 SKUs in -- 1005 00:35:59,858 --> 00:36:02,560 How many of those SKUs are over a year old 1006 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,862 and just probably not going to sell? 1007 00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:06,064 I know this sounds weird, but all of our stuff moves. 1008 00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:08,600 It just a matter of when we want to discount it 1009 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,801 and break even at that product. 1010 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:15,640 And that is 2.5 retail or 2.5 meaning your cost? 1011 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,908 Cost. Cuban: Cost. 1012 00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:18,877 That's cost. So what is the average margin on here? 1013 00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:20,912 How much does a bottle cost to to make, 1014 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:22,047 and how much do you sell it for? 1015 00:36:22,047 --> 00:36:26,551 So that specific product retails for $55.99. 1016 00:36:26,551 --> 00:36:27,852 Okay. And we get it for 1017 00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:29,888 around $10 to $12 landed. 1018 00:36:29,888 --> 00:36:32,657 What do you think you're on track to do this year? 1019 00:36:32,657 --> 00:36:34,959 We're on track to do $22 million up to -- 1020 00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:36,661 That's on the lowest end. Joe: On the low end. 1021 00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,663 You lost money last year? Yeah. 1022 00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,665 Why is it worth $30 million? 1023 00:36:40,665 --> 00:36:42,000 It's worth that because our growth 1024 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,035 has just been scaling tremendously. 1025 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,971 But the problem is, is you're not making money. 1026 00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:50,775 The way that I see this, honestly, you had clever idea, 1027 00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:53,712 but it's almost like you fall in love with the sales 1028 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:55,880 that you get caught in that cycle of, 1029 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,682 and let's get more and let's do more 1030 00:36:57,682 --> 00:36:58,817 and let's bring in more. 1031 00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:01,920 And the problem is, you're so heavily inventoried 1032 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,822 that you said yourself 1033 00:37:03,822 --> 00:37:06,758 you're going to sell it off to break even. 1034 00:37:06,758 --> 00:37:08,660 So -- A business should run 1035 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:09,861 where you're lean and mean. 1036 00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:14,065 For me, it's not a model I like, so I'm sorry, I'm out. 1037 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:15,834 Alright. Thank you for your feedback, Lori 1038 00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:16,968 So -- Cuban: What percentage 1039 00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:20,405 of your sales do you spend on advertising? 1040 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:21,106 A lot. 1041 00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:25,744 So last year, we did almost $3.3 million in advertising. 1042 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:26,878 Wow. 1043 00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:28,947 So, guys, you guys are a marketing company, right? 1044 00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:30,548 Correct. But in order to be 1045 00:37:30,548 --> 00:37:31,716 a great marketing company, 1046 00:37:31,716 --> 00:37:33,084 there's got to be science behind it. 1047 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:34,786 There's got to be more than just, 1048 00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:36,955 let me just try some ads on Amazon, 1049 00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:39,824 because while I get that you're trying to scale, right, 1050 00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:42,827 if you really want to scale to be a household name, 1051 00:37:42,827 --> 00:37:47,732 you've got to be the best at analytics for advertising. 1052 00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:50,735 I don't see that from you guys. So I'm out. 1053 00:37:50,735 --> 00:37:51,803 Okay. 1054 00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:53,638 Herjavec: Look, you've got the growth. 1055 00:37:53,638 --> 00:37:54,939 You started a business from zero. 1056 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:58,042 You're going to do $20 million. I mean, that's incredible. 1057 00:37:58,042 --> 00:38:00,178 But I still don't understand why you're losing money. 1058 00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:04,649 So it was definitely cold. It wasn't very hot. I'm out. 1059 00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:07,018 Why do you believe that, 1060 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:09,187 you know, the inventory is a plus? 1061 00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:11,122 I mean, because one of the biggest things 1062 00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,892 that slowed FUBU down was when we were doing, 1063 00:38:13,892 --> 00:38:16,761 you know, $400 million a year, 1064 00:38:16,761 --> 00:38:18,263 well, with broken boxes, broken sizes, 1065 00:38:18,263 --> 00:38:21,800 styles that people don't like, it starts to add up, right? 1066 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,101 And that is your profit. 1067 00:38:23,101 --> 00:38:25,904 You're headed down a road that I do not want to join you on. 1068 00:38:25,904 --> 00:38:27,839 I think is a very dangerous road. 1069 00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,341 Be careful. I'm out. 1070 00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:33,077 So we're willing to go up to 10% equity. 1071 00:38:33,077 --> 00:38:35,647 O'Leary: I thought your presentation absolutely sucked 1072 00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:36,748 until I heard the sales. 1073 00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,750 [ Laughter ] Herjavec: Yeah. 1074 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:39,884 Because to me it was, 1075 00:38:39,884 --> 00:38:41,853 oh, another water bottle guy, please. 1076 00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:43,888 I've seen so many water bottle guys. 1077 00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:46,090 The challenge is return of capital on your deal 1078 00:38:46,090 --> 00:38:48,259 because you're not worth 30 million bucks. 1079 00:38:48,259 --> 00:38:50,562 I definitely have to have a royalty on this 1080 00:38:50,562 --> 00:38:51,329 to get my capital back. 1081 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:54,832 And you can get a little better at how you're spending. 1082 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:58,036 Here's the deal. I want 7% equity. 1083 00:38:58,036 --> 00:39:02,040 I'll give you the $600,000. I want $2.25 an order 1084 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,043 until I make back $3 million on the $600,000. 1085 00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:08,713 Then the royalty goes away, and I ride the pony on the 7%. 1086 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:12,784 We're not super interested in a royalty deal, 1087 00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:14,152 but what we would be interested. 1088 00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:15,320 Well, you should get super interested 1089 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,822 because it's the only offer you have right now. 1090 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:30,301 Narrator: Four Sharks are out. 1091 00:39:30,301 --> 00:39:33,771 Dave and Joe have one offer on the table from Kevin 1092 00:39:33,771 --> 00:39:36,808 for their brand of cold products, Coldest. 1093 00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,177 O'Leary: Here's the deal. I want 7% equity. 1094 00:39:39,177 --> 00:39:43,181 I give you the $600,000. I want $2.25 an order 1095 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,217 until I make back $3 million on the $600,000. 1096 00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:49,954 Then the royalty goes away, and I ride the pony on the 7%. 1097 00:39:49,954 --> 00:39:52,824 We're not super interested in a royalty deal, 1098 00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:53,992 but what we would be interested -- 1099 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,159 Well, you should get super interested 1100 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,161 because it's the only offer you have right now. 1101 00:39:57,161 --> 00:39:59,731 [ Laughs ] Yeah, so, what if we 1102 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:00,932 offer this counter. 1103 00:40:00,932 --> 00:40:04,035 If we pay you back 1.5-X of what you're offering, 1104 00:40:04,035 --> 00:40:09,007 say 600K, we'll give you 900K in three to five years. 1105 00:40:09,007 --> 00:40:10,842 Oh, that's so uninteresting. 1106 00:40:10,842 --> 00:40:12,210 It's a guaranteed payback. 1107 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:13,945 Oh, I fell asleep on that one. 1108 00:40:13,945 --> 00:40:15,146 [ Laughter ] You're gonna make 50% 1109 00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:16,914 more than what you're investing today. 1110 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:18,049 Where else can you do that? Listen, guys. 1111 00:40:18,049 --> 00:40:19,217 I put up $600,000. 1112 00:40:19,217 --> 00:40:21,920 I can't buy a watch with what you're offering me, okay? 1113 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,920 That's no good. 1114 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,055 I'd rather just take the $600,000 1115 00:40:24,055 --> 00:40:25,990 and buy a watch right now. 1116 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:27,292 Like, you have to think in terms of how many watches 1117 00:40:27,292 --> 00:40:29,928 can I get out of your deal? That's what I'm thinking about. 1118 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:32,063 What's wrong with my offer? It's so reasonable. 1119 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:34,065 So the 7% for $600,000, 1120 00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:36,067 you know, it's definitely on the very low end. 1121 00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:39,170 But think of the opportunity here for your brand. 1122 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:42,874 He has the coldest heart of any human being. 1123 00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:44,742 I have total respect for what you've done 1124 00:40:44,742 --> 00:40:45,843 in growing revenue. 1125 00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:47,278 That's impressive. There's a lot of 1126 00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:50,948 fine tuning you can do to make that more profitable. 1127 00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:53,051 I'm not sure you're doing the best job in terms 1128 00:40:53,051 --> 00:40:54,185 of digital spend right now. 1129 00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:56,120 The only guy you have left is Mr. Wonderful. 1130 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,323 Last offer, 5% equity. 1131 00:40:58,323 --> 00:41:01,192 $2.25 in order till I get back $3 million. 1132 00:41:01,192 --> 00:41:03,027 And then I ride the equity with you. 1133 00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:05,697 What do you want to do? 1134 00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:09,334 We'd like to counter. Yeah. 1135 00:41:09,334 --> 00:41:14,072 Uh, for $1.5 million, for 5% equity, and at, 1136 00:41:14,072 --> 00:41:16,841 like, the three year mark, if you wanted to get out, 1137 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,910 you could give us the equity back, 1138 00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:22,213 and we would pay you out at one and a half times. 1139 00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:23,381 Greiner: They're getting colder. 1140 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,883 I'm falling asleep again. That's not the offer I made. 1141 00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:26,984 Cuban: So, Kevin -- 1142 00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:28,086 Dave: We don't like the royalty deal. 1143 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:29,120 Yeah, we don't like the royalty. 1144 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,288 Yeah, they need all the cash they can get. 1145 00:41:30,288 --> 00:41:31,522 We got to figure out what makes sense for the brand. 1146 00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:35,126 What makes sense for the brand is me giving you $600,000 1147 00:41:35,126 --> 00:41:36,828 under the terms I just dictated. 1148 00:41:37,695 --> 00:41:39,897 Um... 1149 00:41:39,897 --> 00:41:40,898 I think... 1150 00:41:40,898 --> 00:41:42,767 [ Whispering indistinctly ] 1151 00:41:46,104 --> 00:41:49,874 Okay, so our answer to that is no. 1152 00:41:51,309 --> 00:41:53,911 Tomorrow morning when you wake up, 1153 00:41:53,911 --> 00:41:54,946 you're going to be cold. 1154 00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:56,147 Hey, guys, one of my favorite sayings is 1155 00:41:56,147 --> 00:41:58,082 "It doesn't matter how many times you fail, 1156 00:41:58,082 --> 00:42:00,318 you only have to be right one time, 1157 00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:02,153 then everybody can call you lucky." 1158 00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:04,255 You both talked about how many times you failed 1159 00:42:04,255 --> 00:42:06,858 and you finally got your one time. 1160 00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:07,458 Don't screw it up. 1161 00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:09,227 Appreciate it, Mark. Herjavec: Make the most of it. 1162 00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:10,194 Greiner: Good luck, you guys. 1163 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:12,163 Thank you so much. Cheers. 1164 00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:15,066 Dave: I think the Sharks are going to regret 100% 1165 00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:16,300 that they didn't make an offer. 1166 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,102 Mr. Wonderful is going to regret that 1167 00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:20,004 he was too greedy, you know? 1168 00:42:20,004 --> 00:42:22,974 And, uh, we'll just have to prove them wrong. 1169 00:42:28,246 --> 00:42:31,682 -- Captions by VITAC -- 1170 00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:39,991 ♪♪ 1171 00:42:39,991 --> 00:42:48,766 ♪♪ 1172 00:42:48,766 --> 00:42:56,974 ♪♪