♪
- Tonight, on part two
of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" Reunion...
- She hops up on me and punching her fist.
- Uh-oh.
- And was like, "I'll beat your ass."
- Shamea, I wasn't gonna hit you. - She completely lost it.
You absolutely did this to me.
- Uh-oh. Sit down. - Oh.
- Okay.
- Hey.
- Pinky has never apologized to me.
- Yeah, and I'm not going to.
She called the higher ups on me.
- I did, but tell him why.
- Ooh.
- You know what?
If you're gonna keep runnin' around,
calling me a liar over and over,
I'm going to bring a lie detector test.
- Bring it.
- Part two of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" Reunion,
starts now.
♪
- Oh. - Yes.
- Can't really breathe too much.
- You look good.
- Well, Phaedra's first reunion,
she was wearing an Herve Leger dress.
- Oh, wow. - That's right.
- Herve. - She was bounded into.
[laughing] - I almost fainted.
- And she almost fainted.
- What? - You are correct.
- Ooh! - Hi.
- Drama!
- Okay, come on, hot cheeks.
- You look comfortable, too. - I'm right here?
Okay. - Yes, I love it.
- I actually am a little comfortable.
- Can-- look, Cynthia,
can I have a little real estate?
[laughing] - Like...
- Rolling, rolling. Five, four, three, two...
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives of Atlanta"
Season 17 Reunion,
and we are joined by America's friend,
Cynthia Bailey.
- Yay. - Yes, cheekbones.
- 50 Cynt, yes.
[laughing]
- Hello, everyone. - Hey, gorgeous.
- Did I miss a lot?
- Uh, K. Michelle's a gay man.
Pinky's pregnant. Um...
[laughing] - Yes.
- Drew's divorced.
- Phaedra and Porsha both dated Mike.
- Oh! - Okay.
- Now, what else is going on?
[laughing]
- Uh, we did break
at a rather interesting moment.
- Mm-hmm.
- We had a question from Drew Sidora in Atlanta.
Asked Shamea what her intention was
in telling K. Michelle
that the women didn't want her to be friends
with the rest of the group.
- Well, to be clear, um,
it was never about any of the women in this group.
- Your other friends are upset,
and you said you wanted to make sure that--
- Let's talk about this group.
- Yeah. - So, when it came up
that it was brought up to Pinky,
I was like, that don't even have anything
to do with this group.
- Actually, I think it does.
- Uh, thank you. - Okay.
- If I want to-- if I-- if I may insert myself,
I think it does.
K., you can correct me. - Mm-hmm.
- I feel like it sounds a little manipulative
to touch something that you have been hurt by
and constantly tell you
that people who have hurt you before--
it feels like that's a way to--
- You weren't there.
You don't know what was said or how it was said.
- I'm finishing my sentence.
That's a way to buy loyalty,
and it feels like manipulation and isolation
because before you even really got with us,
which you already said you already felt like--
I feel guarded. - Defensive.
- That's defensive and guarded.
- But this wasn't before she got with everybody.
- Absolutely but--
and this is why we got into it.
You keep saying that you just said it that day.
You were consistently saying it
throughout our friendship.
You're asking me to be loyal to you
in this friend group. - Right. Exactly.
- You're asking me to be loyal because...
- I definitely asked you to be--
and, yes, you're right. - ... you're sacrificing a lot
for your other friends being my friend.
- I absolutely asked you to be loyal,
and be a real friend, and be a good friend. I did.
- It's literally what I said.
That's the beginning of starting an alliance.
- Mm-hmm. - I did.
- I didn't try to be your friend first.
You tried to be mine, so I don't want you
to do me any favors. - What do you mean
you didn't try to be my friend?
What do you mean?
You invited me to go eat. Like--
- You ever have to guess between me and somebody else,
you better choose them,
if you ever have to guess. - One second. I never said
I had to choose between y'all, K.
- You said that there were some off-camera events.
What happened?
- I'll let K. speak on it.
- Well, you're the one ran and told everybody.
- No, actually, you are the one
that ran and told everybody. [laughing]
- Mr. Andy, this what happened.
- Mr. Andy is so cute. - She looked in my face.
- So, I haven't spoke on it, but you speak on it.
- She looked in my face, right?
I ain't even get two cups of whiskey.
I was on a half one. - Jesus!
- She looked in my face. She's standing right there,
and she's bringing up moments.
- When was this?
- About a week ago. - Two weeks ago.
- A week ago, okay, it was recent.
- Oh. - A week ago, oh.
- Okay, good. - And she's trying to,
like, bring up things to see how I'm gonna answer,
if I'm gonna change my mind and be crazy.
- Not like an attorney does before their client.
- Wait a minute. - I'm so happy that-
that I was not the only person there
'cause...
for some reason-- - Well, who else was there?
- Who else was there? - Kelli was there, as well.
- I was there. - Okay.
- Okay, Kelli. - Oh!
- When I came, okay-- - Can Kelli say what happened?
- Yeah, go ahead. - You know...
I really don't wanna be in the middle of this.
- It-- you are, quite literally.
- Well, you are. - Literally. [laughing]
- Come on, Tinkerbell.
[laughing] - We were having a dinner.
- To talk about the reunion? - It was a meeting.
- We did not talk about reunion, actually.
- Oh, okay. - A dinner meeting.
- I haven't seen K. in forever.
You know K. has been touring.
We had a beautiful dinner. It became very heated.
- Hmm. - I think both parties
said a lot of things maybe that they did not mean.
I think some things occurred
that probably shouldn't have happened.
- After she was looking me dead in my face
and was lying, and I was looking at her.
- About what? Lying about what?
- What was she lying about? - She was saying about,
like, the other friends. "I never told you that.
I told you that one time."
Or, "My mother had on this.
She didn't have on that."
She was goin' back and forth.
- Mmm. - So, I'm holding my ground,
and she's just sitting there straight-faced,
just lyin', sayin', she ain't told me nothin'--
Nothin' goin' on. - And lying.
- I said-- I hit that table.
I said, "You're gonna stop that lyin'."
- Not hit the table. - Rebuke it!
- She said she hit the table.
- That's what I did.
Kelli was like, "We're sisters."
And she was like, "You're gon' hop up on me?"
I was like, "I ain't gonna touch you."
I hopped up on my sis-- my real sister.
- Oh, no, she hopped up. No, she hopped up on me
and absolutely was in my face
and was punchin' her fist. - Uh-oh.
- And was like, "I'll beat your ass."
- I was not doing this.
- Absolutely was, literally on twos
in my chair like, whoa, what the fuck is happening?
- On twos. - Was I about to hit you?
- You did. You absolutely did this to me.
- Uh-oh. Sit down. - Oh.
- Hey. - Going, "I will fight you."
- Now, how the fuck I get in it?
- Did she not do this to me? I mean, I'm just saying.
- I definitely slapped that table.
I don't know about all of this.
- You did. You came in front of me.
- And I put my pointer.
I said, "You're gonna stop this lying."
- Anyway, let me tell you how we got into that.
[laughing] - And that's what I said,
and I put my finger out. - She got so mad.
- I did 'cause you was looking me in my face, lying.
- Because every time she said something--
- Because people get mad at you lying.
- I'm not talkin' to you. - I don't care.
You're lying. - I would like to speak.
We started talking about things
that I had watched the episode,
so I saw where K. Michelle said
that we came at 2 in the morning.
- Shamea and her mother come, and she going to the club.
It's, like, 2 in the morning.
- Wait, to the club? [laughing]
- Hey! Okay, cute.
- Baby, Shamea mama came in there in her white suit
with them titties pushed up to her chin.
- It pissed me off
because I know how my mom's
being painted to look, right?
- But your mama literally did say--
- One second. Let me finish. - Okay.
- I said, "K., look at this video.
This is at 11:50-somethin'.
We didn't come at 2:00 in the morning."
She's like, "Okay, well, fine."
- Either way, my mama don't be dancing--
- Can I finish? - ...in no hookah lounge
in the middle of Atlanta with her white suit...
- Can I finish? Can I finish? - Oh, Lord.
- Talkin' about hallelujah... - Now, I would love to
just finish what I'm talking about.
- ...and calling her a jezebel
in the middle of the club. - What?
- Calling who a jezebel? - Oh!
- Calling who a jezebel?
- I really do have you saying it.
- I'm gonna get upset. - Callin' who a jezebel?
- Who is a jezebel? - Porsha?
- Your mama calling me a jezebel?
- No, she did not. - I'm really not lying.
[gasps] - Let me finish.
- And you know that I'm not lying.
- I would like-- - Your mama's a jezebel.
- My mama did not-- so, you believe that.
You're instantly believing it.
- Y'all keep talking about me when you're with her.
- Don't-don't make-- Don't-- - 'Cause she's telling me.
- My mama never called you a jezebel!
- Yes, she did. She said, "Like her mama."
- You immediately believe that.
- You're not gonna make me look crazy
when I've had your back and been--
- No, you got mad. - She's told me many things
that you have said with your mother.
- Friend, you look-- - She got mad and said,
"You're not gonna make me look crazy
like the rest of these bitches make me look crazy!"
I'm like, "K., I'm not." - Yeah, 'cause you're lying!
Your mother FaceTimed your father in that club!
- Okay. All right. Okay. All right.
- For what? - What?
- She said that your mama-- your mother said that--
- Make it up now. Get it together.
- No, I'm not, Shamea. - You are. Yeah, you are.
Yes, the fuck you are. - No, I'm not.
- You just created some new shit.
- How did I know about the pipe?
- What pipe? - What pipe? - What pipe?
- You know what?
Leave the moms out of it.
- I don't even know what that is.
I don't even know what she's talking about.
- Oh, her mother is a Goddamn liar.
- Well, your mama a Goddamn liar.
- Her mother-- - What? Okay.
- My discernment was right.
- Hey, hey. - Andy is talking.
- Keep my motherfucking name out your mouth.
- You keep my mama--
- And keep my mother's name out your mouth.
- Keep my mama and my name out your motherfucking mouth!
- All right, okay. Okay.
Can we keep the moms out of it?
- Yeah, I agree. - I would like that to happen.
- Okay, that would be great. - That would be amazing.
- Okay, great.
The two of you had a bad dinner.
Where are you two now?
- Well, my thing is, I'm always open to-
to try again and start, but, like,
I have had your back the whole season.
- And-and I've had yours. - Okay.
- I am going to continue to be around Shamea,
get to know her, but do I trust her?
She's shown that she can't be trusted,
so I'm not doing that. - Absolutely, same.
The feelings are mutuals. - And you feel the same.
- Abso-- well, I don't wanna be close to somebody
that's gonna try to fight me when I don't agree
with some shit they're saying.
- Okay. - One second, y'all.
Honestly, I hate to see both of you
going back and forth. - Okay.
- I don't think that you should allow
the noise from the other sofa
to pour into the relationship that y'all have already.
- The noise is coming from next you.
- Stop with the bully stuff. Stop with the bully stuff.
- We don't have anything to do with it.
There's no accountability,
if I've ever seen it. - Yeah.
- You're sitting next to the noise.
- Angela, I'm so sick of you.
- I have everything--
- With your victim asses. - Okay, very good.
- Girl... - Okay, Kelli,
you should just speak to K. and Shamea
and leave them out of it. - I will.
- My decision and us getting into it--
there was no one else there but us.
- Okay, fine. - So, it had nothing to do.
- All right. Okay.
- It had to do nothing with them.
- It ain't fraud. - I rebuilt my life.
You're still be rebuilding yours.
- Okay, stop, stop, stop. - It ain't fraud, though.
- Where you live at, Kelli? Are you homeless, baby?
- Not at all, baby. - Are you homeless?
You fryin' chicken out Shamea house.
- I'm not homeless at all.
Is that all you got about Shamea's house?
- That's a lot. That's a lot. - Stop it.
- No, you're about to lose your restaurant,
the one Drew didn't visit. - Stop. Aww...
Who told you that? - The one Drew didn't--
- Who told you that? - The courts, baby.
- Can you open a business?
Do you have one? - Multiple.
- What is the business that you do?
- Multiple!
- Don't nobody got a brick and mortar on that sofa.
- Oh, please, honey.
- Okay, I know you're lying, ho.
- You're making millions online, girl. Bye.
- The Bailey Wine Cellar. - The Cellar.
- What-what's your career?
What's your career? What's your career?
- I got several careers.
I'll put my bank account up against anybody.
- Take your chicken and waffles.
- Okay, stop!
- The baby don't like all this noise.
- And just make sure you pay your bills. - Okay, stop.
- Sell your wigs. - Okay, stop. Stop.
Coming up...
- Let me teach you about business, okay?
- You don't have to teach me.
I'm very successful. - They, yeah, they are--
- I've been in business for 20 years.
- Okay, so, win some more cases then,
if you're very successful. How about that?
- Well, what cases did I lose?
- Call Bobby Brown.
♪
- All right, we are back.
Hi, Miss Bailey. - Hi, Andy.
[laughing]
- How are things going? - Dang.
Y'all are lit out here.
Can't nobody even get a word in.
- Oh, Cynthia is doing the Lord's work
during the commercial break.
How are things going with LePrince?
- Everything's going great.
- Any wedding bells in your future?
- Not a single one.
- No. - No.
- You two making any more EDM hits anytime soon?
- Oh, you--
- Uh, actually, I did.
- That was Cynthia singing in the midseason trailer.
Did y'all-- - Excuse me.
- Are you serious? - Really, Cynthia?
- You ain't tell nobody?
- If anyone needs to book me
for a children's birthday party...
[laughing]
- Come on, now.
You have to go on tour with me.
- Let's play a little bit of her song.
Cue it, guys.
- Ooh. - Oh, yeah.
- Cue it up. - Oh, my God.
♪ Georgia's own Atlanta grown ♪
- Okay.
♪ Sweet life ♪ - Atlanta grown!
♪ The peach life ♪ - Okay.
♪ That's what you see ♪ - Me, too.
♪ You can't seduce me ♪ - Hey.
♪ If you bite it you're gonna like it ♪
♪ Sweet life the peach life ♪
- Drop it! Drop it!
[cheering] ♪
- Now, what else is goin' on?
[cheering] ♪
♪ Sweet life the peach life ♪
♪ I'm so easy you can't seduce me ♪
♪ If you bite it you're gonna like it ♪
- Give it up for Cynthia Bailey! [applause]
We needed that. - Yes!
- That was a bop, Cynthia. - Really?
- That was great. - Yeah.
- What else is going on? - Thank you.
[laughing]
Well... - You know what? Hell yeah!
- Well, Pinky, as soon as you appeared on our screens,
you gave us full transparency and left no word unsaid.
From building a multimillion dollar business,
to taking a lie detector test to debunk a rumor,
this bankruptcy baddie proved that vegan stuff
ain't for the weak. - Ain't for the weak.
- All right. - Watch.
- One, two, three. [cheers and applause]
I started Slutty Vegan in 2018.
There were literally 500 people
standing in line every single day.
I built this $100 million brand.
We got some sluts walking in the building!
- What did you say? - Not what's up, sluts?
- A who? [laughing]
- You were thinking of filing bankruptcy.
- Yeah.
- I saw it on the real news
that she was late on her rent.
- $89,000-- I can wipe my ass with that.
- Okay, girl, pay it to the rent man.
- You know, I was just talkin' to the bankruptcy attorney.
I'm thinking about filing for bankruptcy.
I'm about to file for bankruptcy.
- How much is it? - It's, like, $5 million.
- Yeah, you're not filing bankruptcy
'cause I'm gonna give you the $5 million.
- No, I don't want you to do that.
I was a very successful television producer
before I even thought about being a restaurateur.
So, what better way to get back into production
than to tell my story?
You know, Phaedra around here telling people
I eat meat, now.
- Phaedra said she be eating meat.
- Unh-uh. - Uh-huh.
- The girl is not even really vegan. Stop.
[laughing] - Time out.
So, why'd Phaedra just say that the other day?
- 'Cause I seen her eatin' a steak.
- Before she started this vegan stuff,
that girl used to have a Jamaican restaurant.
- What? - Serving meat, honey.
She used to serve meat. - No way!
- Pinky, when it comes to the accusation
that you've been secretly eating meat,
the lie detector test says, that was a lie.
Pinky, you're still a vegan. [laughing]
- All right.
Uh, Pinky, where do things stand
with the bankruptcy, uh, proceedings?
- To be honest, at first, it was very embarrassing
just because blogs be blogging.
I'm sure everybody here can agree.
I'm almost at the finish line, and I'm happy.
It's like a rebirth,
and, um, I would do it all over again,
if I had to. - That's good.
- Wow. - Okay.
- That's just-- the U.S. bankruptcy code
is a tool, and I'm sure
that there's some other ladies that will probably do it
in the future, as well.
- I-I find it very interesting
that you think bankruptcy is a tool,
and it's a positive thing.
I mean, I know that you had investors
that gave you $25 million.
Those were African American investors, and so--
- No, I had white investors, too. Thank you.
- Yeah, but you had plenty of African Americans.
- Yeah, more white than Black.
So, and next? - Um, yeah.
- And it doesn't matter the color.
It's institutional capital, private equity money--
- I get it, but I just do not take it lightly
that it is this manner to-- - A tool.
- A-a tool. - It-it is a tool,
and I'm gonna tell you why it's a tool
because people really don't know the real story
of what happened because I'm a professional.
I protected a lot of people,
and that's none of your business, okay?
- And I-I didn't ask. - But you inserted yourself.
- And all you do is brag.
- It could have happened to you.
It could have happened to anybody.
- No, it couldn't happen to me
because I'm self-funded. - Yeah, it can.
Let me teach you about business, okay?
- You don't have to teach me.
I'm very successful. - They, yeah, they are--
- I've been in business for 20 years.
- Okay, so, win some more cases then,
if you're very successful. How about that?
- Well, what cases did I lose? - Okay, call Bobby Brown.
- Call Bobby Brown. - Anyway, so-so--
- If I was-- if I was a bad attorney, baby--
I was with Bobby Brown for eight years.
I think he could've replaced me.
- ...if you know anything about the restaurant business,
restaurant businesses don't last past three years.
- Yeah, what is the profit margin for,
uh, radioactive burgers? - They don't last past three years.
So, for me to be able to do what I did
in a matter of eight years and open up 14 locations
and positively make money,
making almost $20,000 to $30,000 a year,
is very impressive. So, nobody knows my walk.
- And I didn't say I did. - I don't judge your walk.
You don't judge mine.
- Um...
- All you do in this group, is brag
and give everybody your ideas. - You're damn right.
- If you're that braggadocious,
you need to pay your damn bills.
- I'm gonna brag. I'm gonna uplift.
Andy, you're the only person I ain't give a idea yet,
- And I'm sure Andy doesn't need another idea.
- And I'm coming to you with an idea, okay?
- You said bankruptcy is a tool.
I think it could be perceived
that you were being flip about bankruptcy,
or using it as a crutch.
- You want me to be sad.
Like, am I supposed to be crying every five minutes?
No, that's not my walk. People are gonna judge me.
They're gonna have an opinion,
but guess who I stand for and I represent.
All the people who have ever lost anything--
they can look at me, and say, "You know what?
If Pinky did it, I'm gonna do it."
- Well, that's good. Thank you, Jesus.
- I love that, but it does come across as hypocritical
if you're-- - It can come across
exactly however you want it. It don't matter.
- I wanna piggyback on what Phaedra said
as far as people were hurt. - People were hurt about what?
- If people invested in your business,
in my business,
and I lose the money, I lost their money.
- Red Lobster filed for bankruptcy.
Bed, Bath & Beyond filed for bankruptcy.
- Pinky-- - Heinz filed for bankruptcy.
Every day, so it doesn't make it any different.
- But you don't see them telling people
they can buy people's foreclosed house.
- It doesn't matter. - I think you are 100% correct.
I think the only part that may be missing that I felt,
is you sayin',
"I really hate that I lost people's money."
It doesn't sound good for something for you to say,
or feel good for you to admit that,
but it's a part of it.
- I think y'all have a misconception
because of what you see on social media.
Every single store that I opened cost almost $900,000.
Everything that I said that I was gonna do
with the money, I did. That-that wasn't my problem.
My problem is, I had the wrong people
running my company, okay?
We're gonna have a history lesson.
When white people file for bankruptcy,
you know what happens?
High five, great job, go start another business.
But when a Black person does it,
you're a problem. You're a failure.
- No! Pinky, we're not saying that.
- That's not true. That's not true.
- It's very true 'cause I'm in those rooms.
- Pinky, we're not talking to you from a business pers-perspective.
- It might look lighthearted online,
but I've been up with her through the night,
as she has cried and been upset about it
and how it was going on.
However she is presenting to social media,
you know, she doesn't want them to see her cry.
She's not doing that.
But I know for a fact,
that I have sat there with this woman,
and she has been in tears about this.
- Thank you, friend.
- And doing whatever she can in order to reverse it.
- Nobody wants to highlight their failures.
What I do love about what you did,
even with bankruptcy,
yeah, at least you took that down, that failure,
and turned it into a lesson for multiple entrepreneurs,
for people that, you know, look at bankruptcy
as frowned upon.
Angela was just filin' for bankruptcy last season.
- And never did it. - You know what I mean?
- And never did it.
- We're not looking at it as a failure.
- I didn't do it.
No, don't bring me up because I never did it.
- Calm down, bigfoot. It's okay.
- You know why? - No, you didn't have to do it.
You lost it all. - You wanna-- thank you.
And here's the point I'm making.
When I came into this friend group,
I exposed all my failures. - Yeah, you did.
- I opened the door to expose my failures.
- Mm-hmm.
- I didn't come in this group saying,
"I can buy people's foreclosed houses," while in foreclosure.
- Two things can be true at the same time.
- What I'm saying is-- what I'm saying--
- My husband has money.
Like, two things can be true at the same time.
- How does your husband have money...
- Listen, let's be very clear. - And y'all--
your kids' dentist bills is on your bankruptcy?
- I filed for bankruptcy.
Should I be shamed about that?
- No. - No, definitely not.
- You saying to me, saying that you could buy
my foreclosed houses. - And you called me Papa Smurf.
- After. - And you said I was Mr. Clean.
- After.
- You said I had a wife in the basement.
- Okay. - After!
- I just wanna say this really quick-- quick, Pinky.
I'm gonna say this. - Cynthia.
- Yeah, I don't wanna do this with Pinky.
- And I have, you know, I have been involved
in the restaurant industry through my ex-ex, right?
So, I know how difficult it is.
I understand all of those things.
I think when you come on this type of show,
I think where it just got a little confusing was,
what is it?
Are you good? Are you not good?
Do you have the means? Do you not have the means?
- I would not have gotten casted for this show
if I didn't qualify on every single level.
Let's be honest.
- Well, I don't think you have to--
you don't have to turn in tax returns to get this job.
- Well, I mean-- I mean...
- It's called I'm a Housewife. - We don't check bank accounts.
- Chile... - Maybe we should.
- All I'm saying is,
when you're a part of something like this,
you know people are gonna pick us apart
with everything we say, without question.
- I've been getting picked apart before Housewives. Yeah.
- I'm not saying that you-you don't.
When people have different opinions about it, that is--
- I don't care about people's opinions.
That's the difference. - Okay, all right.
I'll give you that.
- Coming up...
- Pinky has never apologized to me.
- I'm not going to. - Oh.
- And why not?
- Something that I have not discussed, Andy,
is, she called the higher ups on me.
- But tell him why. - Oh, I will.
♪
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives of Atlanta"
Season 17 Reunion.
Pinky, it has been reported in the filings
that you listed your home to be surrendered.
What-- is--
Can you give more details about that.
- My home-- My personal home is not being surrendered.
- It's another home that you own.
- I have a portfolio of several properties,
and some of those properties are upside down.
And because they're upside down,
I said, "Shit, I can't do nothin' with them anyway."
- Did you list your monthly income
in the filings as like, $6,000?
- Yes. My personal.
So-so, if you must know, yes, I pay $80 in gas a month.
And I pay $300 for care for my children, yes.
- That's like, it's your expenses basically.
- It's my expenses, yes. - Got it.
Uh, Meatgate was a major topic of discussion.
How do you feel knowing it was Kelli
who said you eat meat? - Oh, God!
- Well, Kel-Kelli, do you have something to tell me?
- You know what?
I used to see you at Davio's all the time.
Davio's is a steakhouse.
But I did not realize that,
until actually going out to lunch with Pinky,
that she has her own personalized menu at Davio's,
and it had nothing to do with meat.
So, Pinky, I love you.
I also wanna tell you that I apologize
for spreading the rumor
of you ate meat. - Thank you.
- I gotta-I gotta piggyback on that, too.
Phaedra, when you told me she had a Jamaican restaurant,
and she served meat,
I thought you said she ate meat.
So, I misspoke.
I apologize to you for saying that.
- But the real thing is,
Pinky has never apologized to me,
and I knew Pinky. We've done business together.
You have my number, but you drug me.
You prayed for my wigs. You said I eat cadavers.
You never apologized. - Yeah, and I'm not going to.
- Oh. - And why not?
- Well, first of all,
something that I have not discussed, Andy,
is, she called the higher ups on me.
- But tell him why. - Oh, I will.
She said I made a comment about having to protect myself
when it related to a significant device,
and I won't say it on this show.
- Well, no, you should say it
because you did make the comment, and I--
- No, first of all, no, I did not make the comment.
- No, you did make the comment.
- No, I didn't, but here's the problem.
You literally just said that I could've picked up the phone
and called you right then and there.
Okay, I'm a grown-ass woman. - First of all, I kept saying,
"Shut up, Pinky. Be quiet." - No, you did not.
You did not say that. - I did.
- No, you didn't because you were too busy
being mute at that table 'cause you was scared to talk.
- No, no, no. - That is not the truth.
- You two have never had this conversation.
- We-- and-and I'm gonna tell you why.
- No, she never had it with me,
but instead she just wanted to drag me. Yeah.
- Listen, since we're gonna break the fourth wall.
Listen, because I just came into the group,
I said, you know what? I'm gonna chalk it.
I'm gonna eat it.
I'm a professional, but I didn't like it,
but I'm not gonna let that shit go
'cause you don't play with nobody name
and nobody character like that.
- Okay, let me say this.
Phaedra, she's been holding this in.
She feels like you narced on her,
thought she was a threat. - I get it.
- Do you understand where she was coming from?
- Yes, but does she understand where I'm coming from?
- Okay.
- If I wanted to go to the higher ups,
I really would've went to 'em.
- I have known this woman for many years.
If she really wanted to make a thing...
- I would have. Yeah. - She woulda called me,
or she woulda called someone in New York,
and she didn't. She actually would have.
- Well, I want-- I want to put this on record
that I am no threat to anybody in this room.
- Okay. - I got a pancake ass
just like you said.
I wouldn't hurt a fly. - This ain't The Wire.
[laughing]
- So... are we--?
- We're fine. She done gave me a bath.
Okay? She was putting that wand over me.
I done went to her house.
She made me some nice vegan food.
- Okay. - So, one thing about me is,
I'm mature, and I can move past things,
as we can see.
- Okay. - I-I agree.
Pinky, I appreciate that. - Yeah.
Yeah, I can let stuff go.
- Okay. - So, I have no problem with Phaedra.
- I mean, I never had a problem with her.
- Okay. - So, that's why I didn't understand
where all the weird energy was coming from.
- Okay, Ashley from Cincinnati wants to know
why Derrick wasn't the first to know
about your filing for bankruptcy,
and why didn't you take him up on his offer
to pay the $5 million?
- Well, I mentioned it to him a long time ago,
and Derrick takes pride
in his reputation and his name.
He just didn't want me to do it.
- And you didn't take the money because...?
- Because the creditors from my old company
were coming after me personally.
Why would my husband pay for that
when that company is already dissolved?
- Kevin from Bed-Stuy said,
"I'm excited for your project with Naturi."
- Yes.
- Uh, is there a release for "Edgewood?"
- Um, not yet but we just got picked up
by a big network.
- Oh! Congratulations. - Yay, congratulations.
- The ink is not dry yet. - That's great.
- All right. - And I'm really proud.
- Justine from Toronto said,
"Drew, if you only planned on supporting Pinky,
why even leave your house to attend the casting call?"
- Oh, well, because I told Pinky I would come,
and I did take that leap to show up for you--
- Well, why you calling my casting call a cattle call?
- Even though, you know, it wasn't appreciated.
- You belittled my project. - It's called a cattle call.
- You called me the cattle walking across the line.
- Look at Angela back there.
- Oh...
Now, you're gonna stop, now.
We're gonna be nice. - I'm gonna be nice.
I'm sorry, I did.
- I was the cattle. - It is an acting--
it as an acting term, a cattle call.
- Is that an acting term? Cattle call?
- That's what it's called. - Yeah, but-but the way
that she said it, it was-- it was like a dig.
Like, I don't do Indie projects.
Granted, it was the last minute.
- So, you didn't have time to email her-her team
and do the proper-proper way. - It-it wasn't about time.
I just-- uh, to be honest, it passed my mind.
- You didn't wanna do it. - Well, see, and that's the problem.
So, it slipped your mind. - But I never said
I sent you the project.
- But when I asked you to follow the protocol
because I am a part of a union,
you didn't do it, so, I'm not gonna come and audition.
I do independent projects all of the time.
I have done stage plays, okay,
that were independent.
I have done movies independent.
- Did you say Tubi movies? - I've also done box office
movies with John Travolta, "White Chicks."
- Good for you. I'm happy for you.
- I came up on the Disney Channel.
- I'm happy-- Listen! - So, there is nothing you can tell me--
that I should or shouldn't do. - One thing you gotta know about me is--
- It's always my-- you had to-- - I am not mad
that you did not audition.
- All right, okay. - But the fact is,
I showed up for you. - Um, I'm gonna move on.
- And that should be appreciated.
- In Scotland, you talked about
being in a relationship with a woman.
How long was that?
- Well, you know, Andy, I munched on some carpet
a time or two in my time. - Okay.
- Well, all right, chow down.
- Not you a little carpet muncher.
- I will say this.
Being in a lesbian relationship is fun
for, like, the first three weeks.
Then it get crazy. They get real clingy, okay?
So, you know. - Oh, they bring the U-Haul.
- Oh, I'm clingy number one.
[laughing] - Let me tell you this.
This woman will say, "I love you,"
on the second date.
- Oh, you love me, and me love you.
- Yeah, all right. - I'm like Barney in there.
- You're the perfect lesbian. - I know. Who knew?
Who knew? - You go full throttle, yes.
- I'm driving the U-Haul, okay?
- Yes. - You little U-Haul lesbian, you.
- I'm-- yes, I'm a U-Haul lesbian.
That's me. - Yes, um, ha-ha.
We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
♪
- Can we fix the boob?
- I've been sitting on that couch-- My back hurt.
My feet are swollen.
- It's in your head, too.
- What? My head looks swollen.
[laughing]
- Girl, girl.
- Girl. [laughing]
Seeing how Kelli been going in all her damn interviews.
"I have daughters,
and she's talking about me and this married man,
and what about my daughters? And they have to see it."
What about mine? - Mm-hmm.
- So, I said, you know what?
Since you're just gonna keep dragging this,
I paid a professional who does lie detector tests.
[gasps] - You-- girl!
- You know what, for once and for all, let's dead this.
I took it last night. - You took it--
Oh! - I took it.
- Did you see a message in real time
from a married man stating,
"I just slept with Kelli?"
- Yes.
So, he's gonna give me the results now.
- Coming up...
- You got more smoke for me than the people
that tried to fuck your husband, girl.
- So, Porsha tried to fuck Charles?
- No, that's what you said.
- Since you wanna bring the fuck back in it--
- No, you been in it.
- Well, here's a riddle.
What do planes, pastors, Hawks, Falcons,
and Angela's neighbor, George, all have in common?
Give up?
They all got caught in a historic storm this season
because, according to the streets,
it is raining married men in Atlanta.
Take a look. - Yes, indeed.
- Mmm-mmm-mmm-mmm-mmm.
- You didn't sleep with a married man?
- I did not. - Yes, she did.
- So, let's see the receipt.
- Oh, Kelli,
Kelli, Kelli, Kelli, Kelli, Kelli, Kelli, Kelli.
You are looking at the receipt, okay?
She fucked that married man on that plane,
and you know exactly who it is.
You know exact-- he's your Goddamn client.
He's not a stewardess.
- Shamea, why you the hell
you working for the Hawks? - What?
- You know, you're still working-working for the Hawks.
Free that job up.
Oh, but you're fucking the Hawks players.
Oh, but you're fucking
the Falcons players. - Oh!
- I don't-- no, I'm not--
See, I just said I believe it.
- I know about your asking around.
What do you wanna know, Angela, that's so bad?
- Girl, did you fuck George?
- What?
- Ashley, the wife, said, "Hey, girl,
call me when you get a chance.
Angela's lying."
- Where did it come up that he's fucking her?
- It came from me.
- Oh!
- The lie is George and Shamea
having a sexual relationship.
- There he is.
Hi, George. - Are you George?
- Hey, George. - I'm George.
- George look like he pay for the hot pocket.
[laughing]
- Well, I did-- no, no, no.
- What was said, George? - I did say a joke at my event.
I was lit. - That was a joke.
- It was a joke at my event.
- This makes sense. Angela was not lying.
So-- 'cause you could have said it jokingly.
- No, Angela was lying. - Well, she--
- Angela is vindicated.
[Drew distorted] Vindicated. - Vindicated is crazy.
- Delusions on delusions on delusions.
[sighs] - Okay, um...
Two things can be true, I guess.
Angela, you know George because he's your neighbor.
- Yes.
- Shamea, you know George because...?
- I do team building and bonding events
with my best friend, Carla. She's a therapist.
We do, like, um, just empowerment type deals,
games with his employees,
um, and he's donated to my nonprofit, Shamea Shares.
- Did you ever date George
before marrying Gerald? - Never! Oh, my God.
Well, first of all, when I met George,
I met Ashley.
So, he was always with Ashley when I met him.
- Porsha and Phaedra, were you surprised
Angela told George's wife, Ashley,
uh, that she never brought up sex,
yet she asked Shamea if she effed George?
- I think-I think that was two different things.
- Hmm... - Was it?
- It was. - I-I think that--
- No, it was the same thing. It's the same thing.
She said, "Are you fucking George?"
- No, I-I brought up sex.
- I think you-- - And I did not say
Ashley said you slept with George.
- No, you said, "Are you--" - And that's what you--
- You said, "Are you fucking George?
- You told Ashley I said
she said it. - No, what you said was,
"Ashley-- George's wife, Ashley, is actually mad at you,
and she's uncomfortable with you.
She doesn't even wanna bring it up
because you're fucking George."
- I never said that. - Yes, you did.
At the table, yes, you did.
- I did not say that.
- I have a liar that's sitting across from me
that's trying to paint a picture
like I have slept with you,
and Ashley was upset about it.
- No, Shamea, you're a-- you're a liar.
This girl is lying.
- Even if you didn't say that, you still asked me,
was I fucking George? - Oh, make it up, Shamea.
- 'Cause you said-- - Okay, well, you did ask if she was fucking him.
- You asked me if I was fucking George--
- She did, but she didn't say if it was Ashley.
- Okay, you did. Okay, got it.
Okay, so, Drew, why did you say Angela
had been vindicated after George said
he jokingly made the comment
that Shamea looked so good he had to pay her?
- Well, because that's what--
exactly, to a T, what Angela said.
- No, Angela asked if I was fucking George.
- So, there was a lot of things that were twisted and--
- I asked if you fucked him. - Fucking and paying.
- Whoa, I-- - But it seems like--
- I asked. - Well, hold on.
- I'm answering Andy's question.
- I mean, are we playing a word game?
- Like, come on, y'all. - Well, it seems like--
Well, let me ask you a question.
So, it sounds like George and his wife
have both confirmed
that there's nothing to this, though.
- Right.
- And okay. - Okay.
- But don't call me a liar which-- - Oh, and okay?
You are a fucking liar! - And I don't have to believe it.
I don't have to believe it, though, Shamea.
- Yes, you are. That's the second thing you've done.
- Okay. - I don't have to believe it.
- You don't have to believe it.
- What-- - But why are you always, like--
- Motor mouth, Mighty Mouse, hush.
- But you don't like when somebody says
that your husband is cheating on you!
- You told me I was making it up.
- Why would you do that?
- You've been lying on my husband
since day one. - But why would you do that?
Girl, I don't give a damn about your husband.
- When you get a husband, you'll understand.
- I had a husband for 11 years.
- What I'm saying-- what I'm saying to you--
- And didn't need to get pregnant to have one!
Play with somebody else, not me, ho.
- When you get a husband, you'll understand.
- I had a husband for 11 years.
And didn't need to get pregnant to have one!
Play with somebody else, not me, ho.
- My husband puts me in rooms, bitch.
- My husband remembers-- - Your husband puts you in courtrooms.
- My husband remember-- - We are not the same!
We are not the same! - It doesn't matter!
My husband remembered marrying me.
- Okay.
- I don't give a damn about your husband!
I don't care about your husband! - Not the side baby,
motor mouth, loud, surround sound ass Kelli!
- Do the world know about that baby, though?
You said you didn't give a fuck
if he was fucking the lady on the ice cream truck!
- Angela, this year, does not give one fuck.
I heard he's sleeping with the candy lady
down the street. Guess what, I don't care.
- So, who cares?
I don't care about your husband!
- Girl...
- Did you accuse Shamea of sleeping with George
because Shamea told Ahmauri she's nicer than you?
- No. - Okay.
- From day one,
the only person in this friend group
that I tried to build a relationship with
coming into this group was Shamea.
- Okay. - Shamea was married.
She's a tourist in Nassau.
We hung out. - Yes.
Oh, God, that was a good time.
- I bought birthday gifts for her and her daughter.
We're good.
In the season, we're good. - Yeah, I thought we were.
- We're at Pinky's event.
Pinky, and K., and I are talking to Shamea,
and Shamea was like, "Yeah, you're messy."
- I don't remember that. - Run it back.
- You and Porsha, you know, I thought
I was gonna put that back together.
- It ain't too late. - Girl, I thought I had it.
- It ain't too late.
- She thinks I tried to break up Porsha's--
- No.
- And y'all--
- Okay, I'm about to say, uh--
- I wanna set the stage of why I took that into Dallas.
Like, if I thought Shamea was talking about somethin',
if anybody was talking about anybody to K.,
it was Shamea. - Okay.
- Because of my experience with her.
- That made her so mad to the point
to where I'm now... - Right.
- ...conspiring with K against them.
- No, I didn't say that. - I'm also...
- Sleeping with-- yeah. - Fucking, uh,
Falcons and Hawks players. - Yeah.
- I'm also fucking George.
Like, I just feel like a messy comment
would set me off to that extent.
- Okay, I have a question from someone in the group.
Pinky Cole from Atlanta, Georgia
wants to know,
Angela, have you really forgiven Porsha
for what she said about effing your husband?
All season you spoke negatively about her
in your confessionals,
but you had about five outings with her.
- Yeah, I'm gonna talk shit in the confessional.
- Okay.
- And-and if I'm being asked a question,
I'm gonna say what I wanna say, okay?
Because last year,
each and every one of these women who were here,
with the exception of a few, dragged me for filth.
So I'm gonna get what I wanna say out
in the confessional. - Okay.
- And aside from that, yes, I moved on with Porsha.
- Okay. - You know why?
Because Porsha and I left it right there.
She has not mentioned Charles' name ever.
- Okay. - Meanwhile,
when I'm thinking I'm moving on
with other people in the group,
I constantly hear, my husband,
he don't love me, he ain't this.
The needle always gets moved.
- Okay, Shamea Morton-Mwangi from Atlanta, Georgia
wants to know, Angela, are you trying to get
Shamea kicked out of the Hawks Stadium
cause y'all got kicked out of the Knicks Stadium?
- Ooh. - No.
How could I get her kicked out of the Hawks Stadium?
I mean, it-it-- how? - Well, I mean,
you could get her kicked out
if you're implying-- - How, but if it's not true?
- ...that she's sleeping with the players.
- If it's not true, and she says it's not true,
is the investigation based on something I said,
or something she did?
- Then why say it? - Do I have that much power?
- Well, if you're putting it on blast,
on national television-- - Why say it then?
If it's not true. - On national television,
she called me LaToya Jackson.
I don't have a royalty check.
- But it's not true. - But okay, I do okay.
- I do see the resemblance.
- You don't like it, you stop doing it.
[all shouting]
- When she called me Flava Flav,
I posted a picture of me bein' Flava Flav for Halloween.
I'm here for it. - Okay, all right.
- But when you come for my marriage--
- You said my husband doesn't come home.
- I think that's not cool. - Keep my husband home.
- And I think it's unfair how it's so many
double standards in this group.
You can come for somebody's marriage,
but-- and no one says anything,
even when the-when the rumor is-- when it's--
- I've never mentioned your husband, ever.
- Even-even when it's proven to be false-- - Ever!
- No one comes back and says--
- I've never mentioned anybody's husbands, ever.
Charles-Charles has been everybody's beat, day one.
- All right, is there any coming back
for the two of you because-- - No.
- I had-- no. - I feel like I just got served
with a cease and desist because she-
she wants me to talk... - Yeah, absolutely.
- ...and then she don't want me to talk.
- Let me tell you 'cause, no, let me tell you
what-what it says on that. - I don't know if I'm--
If this is Sha-victim or Sha-bully.
- What it says-- - I don't know who she is.
- I'm definitely not a victim. - You-you are.
- Okay, why did you send her a cease and desist?
- In the cease and desist, it says
state all parties that have either told you that,
named the person, the players, that I've slept with,
or cease and desist.
- Shamea, the person who told me that
is a credible source.
And for you to be outside--
- Who's the player? - ...talking about my husband
and Dominique Wilkins outside--
- You're a married woman, and for you to say that,
is so nasty, Angela. - And you're a married woman
when you said my husband was on his back.
- You have put-- you have put bodies on me and--
- You-you said my husband don't come home, baby.
- Your husband said that at Porsha's house!
Yes, he did. - Joking.
- Girl, you continue to talk about my vagina.
- Sounds like jokes have been misconstrued
on both sides, actually.
- You got more smoke for me than the people
that tried to fuck your husband.
- Tried to-- tried to fuck?
- She heard. - Girl...
- So, Porsha tried to fuck Charles?
- No, that's what you said.
- Since you wanna bring me the fuck back in it,
oh, here I am. All right. - Then you been it.
- This is why Angela is holding onto this
because there is zero accountability outside of me
in that pool event. - Okay.
- I said that nasty, disgusting comment.
I apologized for it
and asked her can we move forward.
She gave me grace and moved forward. Right.
- Okay. - However...
I have been quiet this whole time
while everybody's like, "Well, I was just laughing
over what Porsha said. I didn't say anything.
I didn't say--" That's not true.
Kelli was screaming that Charles had a baby,
a secret baby, on Angela.
You were saying that Charles has a woman in New York.
He's been in the streets. He's this and that.
- Bitch, what? - I was the-- hold on.
I was the only one who kept saying,
"I don't even know this guy."
All I have known is, like, he's the legend and like--
- No, that ain't what you said.
- Hold on. Huh? I did, and I said--
- That ain't what you said. - Let me finish!
- You said more. - She did not.
- I said I don't know him. I did not know him.
You guys were talking about his tea.
- Did you say that by the pool?
- Yes, they did say all of that.
- What I said by the pool was
I do not know Charles Oakley.
- She didn't say that. - I've seen him at-- - You're a damn liar!
- She did not say that. - You said you knew him--
- I heard her. - I laughed about it.
- And you brought up he had women everywhere!
- Girl, can I-- shut the fuck up
and let me talk! - You're lying!
- I said, "Angela, I take accountability."
- You've never apologized for that.
- I have. - You have never.
She doubled down. She didn't apologize!
- I honestly don't even know what part I had
in making you feel some sort of way.
I like laughing. I think it's healing.
- You know what? Now, I don't really think
the conversation's necessary because it's gonna lend itself
to somethin' that is not good. - Okay, then I'm okay.
Then I'm okay. - Yeah, we're okay to disagree.
- Yeah, I'm okay with that.
- You doubled down, and I agreed to let it go.
- She still hasn't let it go,
but she lets everything else go with other people.
- Shamea, I'm not gonna let it go if every time
it's the same. - You kept throwing me under the bus,
and I done finally told what the fuck you said.
So, shut up. - Girl, shut the fuck up.
- Shut up. - Okay, all right.
Guys, okay, stop!
- I can tell you what say about a lot of shit.
- Stop! Stop. It might be helpful,
given that this is still bothering Angela,
if you would apologize,
even if it's you apologizing, again.
- I apologize for laughing by the pool,
for saying I didn't know you,
for, um, whatever I said, Angela, that made you--
- Oh, no, it's gonna get mucky, again.
- That upset you.
If I misspoke, if I'm not remembering it right,
I am sorry.
I don't know Charles to be a cheater.
I sincerely apologize to you.
- Do you take that? - I take her apology.
- Shamea said she almost lost her job with the NBA
because of the accusations.
Angela, do you want to apologize
for making the accusations? - If it's not true,
but I will stand by the source that I--
that I heard it from. I'm sorry.
- Okay, well, do you want to apologize for--
- I apologize if I offended her.
I don't want her to lose her job that she don't need.
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. - Offended? Lies.
- And she's gon' tell you she don't need it.
I sincerely apologize if I got in the way
of you and your job. - Okay.
- But please don't talk about my husband
'cause I'm coming back-- [indistinct chatter]
- Okay, just-just leave off the "but."
- It's the "but." - Leave off the "but."
- That's not a real apology. - Okay, all right.
So, Keisha from Brooklyn said, "Kelli and Porsha,
"what exactly are a hot chili cheese vagina
"and a platinum puss?" - Hmm.
- Yes. - One that--
one that my spouses love. [laughing]
- Okay. - Oh, her spouses love it.
I, you know, I don't know about--
- And the one you wanted.
- Ooh. - Ooh, my.
- If you don't go and take that platinum puss and put it
in some goddamn hot water and vinegar--
- Okay, um, Porsha, aside from you,
what physical proof do you have that Kelli slept
with a married pastor?
- So, I am the proof.
It sounds like a joke, but it's not.
I'm the one who actually read the text messages
in my friend's phone, live time.
- You were upset with Kelli for accusing you
of sleeping with married men on camera.
- Yeah.
- But you did the same thing to her. So...
- Well, she said it to me first.
So, yes. - Okay, so...
- When that information came back in my lap,
I made it known to her, absolutely.
- Okay. - No, she wanted to...
get her lick back.
- She did a recent interview.
- Okay. - And just basically
a whole 'nother smear campaign
after we have made up,
mind you. - Okay, okay.
- So, I'm like, okay, you know what?
If you're gonna keep running around,
talkin' about this, calling me a liar
over, and over, and over, and I'm not lying,
you know what I'm gonna do? - Okay. What?
- I'm going to bring in a person
who can do a lie detector test.
- Okay. - Perfect. Bring it.
- I went ahead and took the test myself.
- Okay, you took it. - I took the test last night.
- I'm so tired of this bimbo.
- So, I actually called him today
and got the results. - Okay.
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- I went ahead and took the test myself.
- Okay, you took it.
- I took the test last night.
So, I actually called him today and got the results.
- Okay, spoiler alert. You passed.
- Drew was there as a witness.
- Okay.
- Did you see a text message in real time
from a married man stating he just slept with Kelli?
Your answer was yes.
Did he state that he and Kelli had been on the same plane
to Los Angeles for the BET awards?
Your answer was yes.
Do you personally know the person who sent the text
and do you know for sure that he is a married man?
And you answered yes.
The scores indicate that the subject was truthful
while responding to all relevant questions asked.
- Would this be admissible in court, Phaedra?
- Well, lie detector tests aren't always admissible.
- Yes. - Because they can be tricked.
- In the court of the Housewives of Atlanta, okay?
[laughing]
I asked-- I was asked very specific questions.
- Okay, and-- - And all of it was yes.
- Okay. - So, all I'm saying to you is,
stop with the press tour
of still trying to make me look bad. - Girl...
- But yet, on the show,
wanna act like we're cool. - Okay.
- 'Cause if you want to still have a beef,
we can still have a beef. - First of all-- first of all,
it's-- okay, hold on. - I can keep going on.
- I'm gonna have my foot on your goddamn neck.
I don't-- ooh-- - And I'm gonna have mine
on your goddamn little bitty back.
- But it's fine. You can have it on my back,
and I'm gonna have it on your neck all season.
- I'm gonna have it on your little bitty back right back.
Okay, and it's been right there,
and it will not be removed. - All season, let's do it.
Let's do it. I have no problems.
- Let's see who the fuck you are. - Okay, okay, continuing.
Your reaction to her passing the lie detector test?
- It's-- that's a fucking joke. Who cares?
- Okay. - Like, at this point,
I don't know anything about a lie detector test.
- Okay, so Kelli, after the episode aired,
you made a video asking fans to stop DMing
pastors that you follow on social media.
- I did, absolutely.
I was bothered when it-- especially when it came down
to the pastors because one,
I wanna go to church on Sundays.
- Okay. - I don't need to be looked upon,
and frowned upon-- - Okay.
- When I walk into-into the ch-church house, okay?
- Yes, okay, I understand. - Some of the--
some of the pastors that were on the list,
are some of the pastors that I do know.
- Yes. - Jamal Bryant was a pastor
who literally did my 10 year vow renewal.
- Oh, boy. - We flew him out to Miami.
That was a whole thing, okay? - Okay, um...
- I had a pastor in my DM, Andy.
I don't even know this man. - Right.
- But he was like, "Can you pl--
And I'll play the message for you. - Stand down.
Yeah, okay. - Yeah, like, I don't know you.
So, yeah. - It has become clear
that the person in question
is actually someone that you know,
maybe a client of yours, Phaedra, right?
- Correct. - And so--
- How convenient is that, for that person to be
Phaedra's friend, or Phaedra's client?
- Okay, well, can I ask you a question?
- Isn't that attorney-client privilege?
- Privilege, right. - Kelli Potter from Atlanta
wants to know, "Phaedra, why do you feel the need
to protect a cheating man's infidelities?
Does that really and truly protect a family
or your lies?"
- Okay, first of all, this is a client.
I'm a member of the Bar.
Me and my client have absolutely no issues.
I didn't bring it up.
- But, Phaedra, I'm your client.
- Exactly. - And the fact--
Let me tell you something, Phaedra.
You never actually sat down and asked me anything
about this alleged person of-of who it is,
and I'm bothered by that.
I done went to your house several times.
We done talked several times.
You never said, "Well, Kelli,
"is there somethin' I need to know?"
You just insinuated
and took on Frack's information.
- No.
- And took it for what it is.
As your friend,
I would've looked at you as a big sister to say,
"Well, Kelli, I just want to know.
"Is this true? Could this be true?"
You never asked me, and I have a problem with that.
- 'Cause I spoke to my client.
- It doesn't matter if you spoke to anybody.
- But this is the thing. I didn't bring it up.
I know exactly who the person is.
- No, you didn't bring it up, but you co-signed.
It didn't stand until you co-signed.
You co-signed from the per--
same person that got you fired
on this show the last time.
- Good job, fan.
You remember episodes. - Girl, shut up.
Andy, unless we have some names, I don't--
I don't think it's anything else for us to discuss.
- I'm not naming him. - Chile.
- I'm not naming the guy in the kitchen
who she also knows, as well.
- Are we talking about (BLEEP)? - Oh, you wanna name people.
- Are we talking about (BLEEP)? Who are we talking about?
- Oh, you wanna name people. So, go ahead and name--
Go ahead and name the married man.
- Are we talking about (BLEEP)?
- Go ahead and name the married man.
- Are we talking about (BLEEP)?
'Cause that's the really the real reason
why you don't like me. - Go ahead and name
the married man. Name the married man.
- Let's talk about the real reason
you really don't like me. - Name the--
- Is it-- it's about (BLEEP). - Of course not.
- Okay. - Go ahead and name him,
'cause you're getting close. - Okay, okay.
- We should keep talking 'cause she's getting it.
- Let's keep talking. - She's getting it.
- Let's go. - Well, I wanna know.
Bleep it out. - Who is (BLEEP)?
- It is who Claudia Jordan brought up on the podcast
where Claudia said, "Well, Kelli can really pipe it up
"with Porsha because they actually dated
"one of the same men." - Yeah, I said the same thing
on my interview. I said the same thing.
- Okay. - Absolutely,
after Claudia said it, but go ahead.
- That's not a secret. That's so not a secret.
- Move forward. It's a secret. - All right.
- But go ahead and name. - Wait, hold on.
Why is it not okay to name-- - Go ahead and name
the married man, though, Kelli. You're getting close.
- Why-why can't we name this married man but then--
- You hush and stay out of it
before we talk about who you were with...
BET weekend, as well. - First of all, I'm not--
I'm not talking about that. No, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about this. George- George was--
- Stay out of when I'm talking to Kelli, Shamea.
- Girl, I'm talking to her. I'm not fucking talking--
- Okay, moving on. Okay, stop. - We can deal with your--
Shut up. - Okay, stop. Stop, stop.
- You shut the fuck up! - No, no, no,
we're not talking to you. - You shut up.
- Stop, stop.
Where do you two go from here?
- To hell. - Oh, gosh.
- All right. - Let's not go there.
- I don't know if we're gonna resolve this today.
- We can go there. - It's hot.
- Okay. - I don't mind.
- Next week, it's the dramatic conclusion
of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta"
Season 17 Reunion.
Why did you pressure Ahmauri
into telling her brother and sister
that she had married?
- I've never confided in Kelli about anything
that has been shared with me with Porsha.
- That's actually not true.
- You said that Porsha has always wanted you
to be a part of the friends.
I have a text message that proves a lot of this stuff.
- What is that? - Evidence.