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Living In
The Material World, Part 1

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By Mikhel for Subtitulos.es
==SPREAD THE WORD==

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You know, just go ahead, George,

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go on and fly away, babe.

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Just be free and go.
And we'll see you down the line.

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Erm... Just, leave.
Go to some place nice.

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We'll be all right here.

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And then he went on out.
That was it.

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Is there anything you would say
to George if he was around today?

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Fancy a cup of tea?

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Where have you been?
I had a dream that I saw him.

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And that was what I said to him
in the dream.

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So I guess that's what would
be the question, wouldn't it?

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Where've you been
since I last saw you?

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And he answered it, so I can
tell you the answer as well,

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which was, "Here the whole time".

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Which doesn't really
help me in any way, but...

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There's George with cancer
and he knows his life is limited.

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And what he does is buys
a house in Switzerland,

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so he can avoid paying
the taxman here.

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The man who wrote the song Taxman,

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even to his final hours, was
determined to cheat the taxman.

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And then I thought,
"There's George." Grace and humour.

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And a weird kind of angry bitterness
about certain things in life.

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It's still difficult to try
and talk about him in a, kind of...

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anecdotal, frivolous way.

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It's, er, it's still too painful.

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** Sunrise doesn't last all morning **

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** A cloudburst doesn't
last all day **

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** Seems my love is up
and has left you with no warning **

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** It's not always
gonna be this grey. **

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People in their gayest colours.

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Red, white and blue rosettes.
Red, white and blue hats...

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That, in accordance with arrangements
between the three great powers...

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** Make the world rejoice **

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** While you're playing your part
Keep a song in your heart **

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** Tra-la-la-la, la-la, la-la
Count your blessings and smile **

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** Sing low, sing high,
isn't it grand, beating the band? **

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** Who wants to die?
Oh, what a happy land. **

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** All things must pass **

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** All things must pass away **

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** Sunset doesn't last
all evening... **

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OK. Do you want me to start?

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OK. And then Pete can go.

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Right. We lived in 12 Arnold Grove.

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It was a two up and two down.

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The only heating was a coal fire,
so there was no electricity.

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Small backyard.
Toilet down the bottom of the yard.

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It was a very cold place.

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What kind of a kid was George?
He was cocky. A cocky little guy.

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He had a good sense of himself,
he wasn't cowed by anything.

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He had a great haircut. He had
this long hair that he quiffed back.

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We had a friend, Arthur.

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And he used to describe it as
"a fucking turban!

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"Like a fucking turban!"

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And it did. It looked like
a great big marvellous thing.

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Looking back now, you know,
it was pre-fame.

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So you were just an ordinary kid

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who couldn't get in places,
cos you weren't famous.

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Teachers didn't like you.

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You know,
rock and roll hadn't arrived yet.

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I always think of it as Dickensian.

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And the school that I went to,
with George, incidentally,

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was a very Dickensian old place.

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In fact, Dickens had taught there.
That's how Dickensian it was.

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You grew up wanting
to go somewhere else.

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It made you hungry.

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So art was
a great golden vision.

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So for us, we wouldn't have called
it art then, it'd be rock and roll.

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We needed a good guitar player.

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Both John and I played a bit of
guitar, but we couldn't really solo.

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We weren't that good.

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And I said, "I know this guy.
He's a bit young, but he's good."

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John said, "Well, you know,
let's meet him".

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So I said to George,

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"You want to meet these guys
I'm in a group with?"

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"Yeah." So he brought his guitar.

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We were all on the top deck
of a double-decker bus

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in Liverpool, round where John
lived, a place called Woolton,

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and nobody was on the bus.
It was late at night.

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And John said, "Well, go on then.
Let's see you play" to George.

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I said,
"Go on, go on, get your guitar out."

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So George unpacked his guitar,
got it out,

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and he played the thing called
Raunchy, which is...

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"Raunchy" by The Beatles

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Down, George, down!

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Yeah. George, only
a brief document or two left.

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For the record, I'd like
to say these are more papers

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that I don't know what they say...

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Any of these?
..that I'm signing.

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Yes, all those. Gentleman's name
is Lennon. No, no, no.

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Or Richard Starkey, or John Lennon,
or George Harrison.

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Krishna, Krishna, Krishna.

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May the Lord help this
to become final.

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The small gathering on Savile Row
was only the beginning.

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The event is so momentous
that historians

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may one day view it as a landmark in
the decline of the British Empire...

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the Beatles are breaking up.

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** It's funny how people
just won't accept change **

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** As if nature itself **

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** They prefer rearranged. **

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When I was still at school
and I was really small,

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I know John was really embarrassed,
cos I was so tiny.

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I only looked about ten years old.

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When I met John,
he had four strings on his guitar.

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I mean, John didn't even know
guitars had six strings.

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And I said, "What are you doing?
What's that?"

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And he would say, "Well, why?"

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You know, he thought
that's what it was.

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So we showed John the guitar chords,

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E and A and all those.

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My mother
was a real big fan of music

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and she was really happy
about having the guys around.

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You know, and John was always keen
to get out of his house,

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because his Aunt Mimi was,
kind of, very stern and strict

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and she embarrassed him.

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I remember going to John's house
once when I first had met him.

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I was still at the Institute.

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And we were trying to
look like Teddy boys,

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which was like that
style in those days.

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And I must've looked good,
cos she was like...

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She didn't like me. She was shocked.

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She said, "Look at him! Who is this?
Bringing this boy to this house.

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"Look at him. He looks
dreadful, like a Teddy boy."

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And he'd just say,
"Shut up, Mary, shut up!"

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** Don't you try to tame a wildcat **

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** You just don't understand **

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** The wildcat's what they name me
No kitten's gonna tame me **

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** Oh, no. Not me. **

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Our wedding was just one of those
occasions where they thought

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they would practise on people
and see what happened.

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They were not exactly what the
majority of people there expected.

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They had a tea break.

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An elderly lady,
who was one of the guests,

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came along to play the piano,

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who was a real pub player.

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She could really hammer out tunes
that everybody wanted to sing to.

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The three lads reappeared
from the bar, pints in hand,

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and John just poured a pint
over this lady's head,

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just straight over the head,
saying, "I anoint thee, David."

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And just walked away.

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And this lady surprised me,

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because there was absolutely
nothing. There was no reaction.

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She just smiled and got up
and went away and got dry again.

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You know, it was...
And I thought it was funny,

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because in those days,
people used to say,

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"See you had a wedding in Liverpool.
How many fights were there?"

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But there wasn't even a fight.

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The nearly fight was John Lennon
pouring a pint on her head.

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When I met John,
he had a lot of power, really.

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Sometimes they'd pick somebody
to march behind

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on the way to war.

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Well, he was certainly out front.

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When you thought you wanted
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where did you think you'd end up?
There's no justification for it.

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We kind of had a feeling that
that's what we were going to do.

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And I always felt that something
good was going to happen.

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But then, in those days,
something good would just be

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getting to do a tour
of Mecca ballrooms.

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That was, like, a big deal.

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** She's got a way
that makes me act like a fool **

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** Spends my money
then she plays me cool **

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** I'm begging for her kisses
on a bended knee **

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** Oh, won't you give me
some a-loving, baby? **

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** Please, please. **

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** Watch out now **

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** Take care
Beware of falling swingers **

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** Dropping all around you **

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** The pain that often mingles... **

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After wartime,
we still had lots of bombed houses.

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Not poverty. I mean,
the Germans were rich quite quick.

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It didn't take them long
to pick up on that one.

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That particular day,
I had an argument with Astrid.

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I was really angry
and I wanted to let steam off.

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And I quite often went that
direction, to the harbour.

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The Reeperbahn
is really for the sailors,

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for the people getting drunk.

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For people going to see naked women
or having sex or whatever.

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That's what this place is known for.

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Klaus was always very laid back.

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You know, you couldn't quite

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impress him by things.

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He always said,
"Yeah, great. Fantastic."

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But when he came home seeing
the Beatles for the first time,

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I've never seen him like that
before. He just went crazy.

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When I came down
to the Kaiserkeller with Klaus,

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after, he had to persuade me
for three days. I just freaked out.

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Seeing them onstage, faces I always
dreamt of taking pictures of,

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because they had so much personality
and were still young, like I was.

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** Gonna write a little letter,
gonna mail it to my local DJ **

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** It's a rocking little record
I want my jockey to play **

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** Roll over Beethoven,
got to hear it again today. **

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We didn't really
have that much money.

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We only just really
had enough to feed ourselves,

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so there was nothing really
to show for it.

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But everything else was such a buzz.

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You know, being right in the middle
of the naughtiest city in the world

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at 17 years old.
It was kind of exciting.

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And learning, you know,
about it all.

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There's the gangsters
and the transvestites.

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And there's the... You know, it was
like that. There's the hookers.

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They looked real strange,
teddy boy-like.

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They didn't
have the leather gear yet.

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The leather thing came
when they met Astrid and me

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and the way we were walking around.

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We loved this band.

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We were knocked out. And we
didn't realise how they lived.

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The Bambi Kino was a porno cinema.

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The room they stayed in first
was a sort of place where

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you'd normally
put brooms and things.

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There was no window, there was just
a light bulb on the ceiling.

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And they were sort of living
in these little cupboards,

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so to speak, right behind
the screen of that cinema.

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And it was terrible,
because they were smelly, stinky.

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They couldn't
wash their clothes properly.

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Klaus introduced me to them,
and John did his, you know,

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"I'm a man, I'm a man" thing.

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And Paul was doing his, "I'm a good
boy, good education" bit, you know.

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Said hello and shook my hand.

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And George was just, looked at me
and said, "Oh, hello.

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"And you are Klaus's girlfriend?"

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But he was ever so sweet.

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I came to know George then.

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And he was interested in so many
things, but let's say, on the quiet,

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because Paul was the one who said,
"Oh, who is that?"

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And "who wrote this book?"
And "who is that on that picture?"

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George was just sitting there,
looking at my room, which must

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have been very strange to them,
because it was completely black,

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with leaves and branches
hanging from the ceiling.

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I think, at first,
George thought I was a bit mad.

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But that became very shortly
a very lovely and nice friendship.

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Astrid took them to her house

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and she cooked for them.

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Astrid's mother was cooking
their favourite meals for them.

235
00:17:48,090 --> 00:17:50,369
So they had their little home,
suddenly,

236
00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:53,209
which Astrid really took care
of them really well.

237
00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:56,689
Yeah, it was really good
for us to meet them, too.

238
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They, in themselves,
were very artistic.

239
00:18:00,490 --> 00:18:02,969
I mean, for us, we started
hanging out with them

240
00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:07,730
and Astrid was so loving.
She really helped us a lot.

241
00:18:12,010 --> 00:18:14,329
You may think it was sexually.

242
00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:17,689
Of course, in a way,
they all fancied me,

243
00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:19,969
because I was quite good looking

244
00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:24,209
and charming, in my own little way,
with my funny English.

245
00:18:24,210 --> 00:18:28,369
When I started
falling in love with Stuart,

246
00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:31,849
it was great
that I was a photographer,

247
00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:36,249
so I could just go up
easily to him and ask him,

248
00:18:36,250 --> 00:18:39,049
"Do you mind
if I take pictures of you?",

249
00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:41,809
because I felt so attracted to him.

250
00:18:41,810 --> 00:18:45,209
** A taste of honey **

251
00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:50,249
** Tasting much sweeter than wine **

252
00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:53,489
** Do do-dem-do **

253
00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:56,569
** Do do-dem-do **

254
00:18:56,570 --> 00:19:01,129
** I dream of your first kiss
and then **

255
00:19:01,130 --> 00:19:07,369
** I feel upon my lips again **

256
00:19:07,370 --> 00:19:10,729
** A taste of honey
A taste of honey **

257
00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:14,330
** Tasting much sweeter than wine. **

258
00:19:19,130 --> 00:19:26,049
I always had a vision that I want to
take pictures of outstanding faces,

259
00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:31,289
who can tell a story
behind the mask.

260
00:19:31,290 --> 00:19:36,689
Imagine what is behind this
rough young man, John Lennon.

261
00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:41,409
And what is behind
the funny, joking Paul.

262
00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:46,049
Or the lovely, sweet little George.

263
00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:51,409
George was only 17 years of age,
but he was calm,

264
00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:53,889
he looked you straight in the face,

265
00:19:53,890 --> 00:19:55,729
he was funny

266
00:19:55,730 --> 00:20:00,329
and he was a catalyst in the band,
you see?

267
00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:02,009
Paul and John were so different.

268
00:20:02,010 --> 00:20:08,089
And George was bringing
a certain peace into this set-up.

269
00:20:08,090 --> 00:20:10,250
I mean, Ringo wasn't
with them at the time,

270
00:20:10,251 --> 00:20:12,409
because Pete Best was
playing the drums.

271
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And Stuart was more on the side,

272
00:20:15,010 --> 00:20:19,450
but George was right in the middle,
between those two characters.

273
00:20:20,530 --> 00:20:23,089
After Stuart's death,
John and George

274
00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:25,089
really cared about me.

275
00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:29,889
You know, they used to come
and see me in my home.

276
00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:35,850
And so...
It was actually John's suggestion.

277
00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:41,009
John said,
"Can I see where he used to paint?"

278
00:20:41,010 --> 00:20:44,289
So I said, "Of course, you can."
In that moment,

279
00:20:44,290 --> 00:20:46,569
I had to take a picture of them.

280
00:20:46,570 --> 00:20:50,249
And I just grabbed this old chair
and put it there.

281
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:55,969
And John was so full of emotion,
being in the same room

282
00:20:55,970 --> 00:20:59,089
where his friend was just painting,

283
00:20:59,090 --> 00:21:04,249
that he nearly burst out in tears.

284
00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:08,329
And George was all...a bit worried.

285
00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:11,969
So I just said to George,
"Well, stand behind him."

286
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:17,929
You could see how quickly

287
00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:21,809
George understood
what it was all about...

288
00:21:21,810 --> 00:21:26,049
death and being alive.

289
00:21:26,050 --> 00:21:27,809
He was only just turned 18.

290
00:21:27,810 --> 00:21:31,849
And when you look at the picture
and see his eyes,

291
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:35,969
they're so full of protection
for John.

292
00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:39,529
And John was just falling to bits,
sitting there.

293
00:21:39,530 --> 00:21:41,610
And you could see that in his face.

294
00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:51,289
I gave that guitar away.
Ah, that's the one.

295
00:21:51,290 --> 00:21:53,170
** That boy **

296
00:21:55,170 --> 00:22:00,569
** Took my love away **

297
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:07,489
** He'll regret it some day **
** Doo-da-doo **

298
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:13,010
** This boy wants you back again **

299
00:22:17,610 --> 00:22:23,329
** That boy isn't good **

300
00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:26,450
** For you **

301
00:22:27,770 --> 00:22:32,049
** Though he may want you, too... **

302
00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:35,049
Good song, though. Good sad song.

303
00:22:35,050 --> 00:22:37,969
** This boy wants you back again... **

304
00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:41,729
John was as blind as a bat
and he'd never wear his glasses,

305
00:22:41,730 --> 00:22:43,609
so he couldn't see a thing.

306
00:22:43,610 --> 00:22:44,810
** Oh, and this boy **

307
00:22:44,811 --> 00:22:51,209
** Would be happy
just to love you... **

308
00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:53,169
Double track.

309
00:22:53,170 --> 00:22:56,609
** But oh my-hi-hi-hi **

310
00:22:56,610 --> 00:23:01,889
** That boy won't be happy **

311
00:23:01,890 --> 00:23:09,129
** Till he's seen you cry-hi-hi-hi. **

312
00:23:24,810 --> 00:23:28,049
It was almost like
we were waiting to get going.

313
00:23:28,050 --> 00:23:31,769
We couldn't go until
all the Beatles were in the frame.

314
00:23:31,770 --> 00:23:34,969
Ringo was a member of the band.

315
00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:37,449
It's just that he didn't
enter the film

316
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,250
until that particular scene,
you know.

317
00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:47,369
We were always, kinda, you know,
a little nervous before each step

318
00:23:47,370 --> 00:23:48,929
we went up the ladder.

319
00:23:48,930 --> 00:23:51,769
And that was the good thing
about being four together.

320
00:23:51,770 --> 00:23:53,489
We all shared the experience.

321
00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:58,369
How many Beatles does it take
to change a light bulb?

322
00:24:00,330 --> 00:24:02,409
Four!

323
00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:09,849
** Well, she was just seventeen
You know what I mean **

324
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:15,169
** And the way she looked
was way beyond compare **

325
00:24:15,170 --> 00:24:19,649
** So how could I
dance with another **

326
00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:24,810
** Oh, since I saw
her standing there? **

327
00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:30,409
We just went in. We were punks,
really, you know what I mean?

328
00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:31,969
We were like just these punks.

329
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:36,009
We went in. We're all incredibly
grateful to be on vinyl.

330
00:24:36,010 --> 00:24:37,850
You know,
the idea of getting a record.

331
00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:41,209
Then, when it was going up the charts
in England, we'd stop the car,

332
00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:46,089
cos you'd know when it was coming on.
BBC at, uh, 4.19.

333
00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:49,089
"Stop the car!"
And then we'd listen to the record

334
00:24:49,090 --> 00:24:51,489
and then drive on up to the gig.

335
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:56,529
** Now I'll never
dance with another **

336
00:24:56,530 --> 00:25:02,329
** Ooh, since I saw
her standing there **

337
00:25:02,330 --> 00:25:04,449
** Waaah! **

338
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:25,550
Does the continuous living
and working together

339
00:25:25,551 --> 00:25:28,129
impose any temperamental
stress upon you?

340
00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:31,049
No, actually, it's quite lucky,
cos we've been...

341
00:25:31,050 --> 00:25:35,769
** We've been together now
for 40 years. **

342
00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:38,529
You know, we have all been mates
for quite a long time,

343
00:25:38,530 --> 00:25:42,330
so we don't get on each other's
nerves as much as we could.

344
00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:47,609
I think I saw you being greeted
by somebody outside.

345
00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:51,609
No, no, that was George.
That was me. That was me. Uh-huh.

346
00:25:51,610 --> 00:25:53,730
Well, actually, it was,
um, my mother.

347
00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:57,490
Your mother has to come to Ireland
to see you? Yeah!

348
00:26:08,010 --> 00:26:10,409
** Well, we danced
through the night **

349
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:15,689
** And we held each other tight **

350
00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:20,809
** And before too long
I fell in love with her **

351
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:26,329
** Now, I'll never dance
with another, ooh. **

352
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:29,729
Do you find any difficulty
in keeping up your public image?

353
00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:31,809
No. What image?

354
00:26:31,810 --> 00:26:35,769
Our image is just us,
you know, as we were.

355
00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:39,809
We didn't try and, uh,
make an image. It just happened.

356
00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:41,490
And so we don't have to keep it up.

357
00:26:41,491 --> 00:26:45,169
We just remain ourselves,
don't we, Ringo?

358
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:49,050
Well, we do. It's the other two
we're worried about!

359
00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:53,249
The general atmosphere,
we all loved it.

360
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:56,409
We all dug it, but you know,
still in the band,

361
00:26:56,410 --> 00:26:59,889
we all had personalities
and attitudes.

362
00:26:59,890 --> 00:27:03,489
We stopped at a motorway cafe,
you know,

363
00:27:03,490 --> 00:27:06,209
eat some grease.

364
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:09,209
Paul had the keys and George

365
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:13,289
was sitting behind the wheel,
as we came up.

366
00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:17,969
And so an argument went on
for at least an hour and a half.

367
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,049
"I've got the keys." "Well,
I'm sittin' behind the wheel."

368
00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:24,929
And it was like, we had
to sit there and go through this,

369
00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:27,529
cos no-one was going give up.

370
00:27:27,530 --> 00:27:29,609
"I got the keys."
"I've got the wheel."

371
00:27:29,610 --> 00:27:32,090
** So please listen to me
if you wanna stay mine **

372
00:27:32,091 --> 00:27:36,409
** I can't help my feelings
I'll go out of my mind **

373
00:27:36,410 --> 00:27:39,409
** I'm gonna let you down
Let you down **

374
00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:40,450
** And leave you flat **

375
00:27:40,451 --> 00:27:43,729
** Gonna let you down
and leave you flat **

376
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:47,250
** Because I've told you before
Oh, you can't do that **

377
00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:49,450
** O-o-o-o-oh! **

378
00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:53,650
** You can't do that... **

379
00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:05,490
"Dear Mum and Dad,

380
00:28:05,491 --> 00:28:09,369
"The shows have been going great,
with everybody going potty.

381
00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:12,729
"And everywhere we go, we have about
20 police on motorbikes escorting us.

382
00:28:12,730 --> 00:28:14,770
"We have had two Cadillacs
every place, but

383
00:28:14,771 --> 00:28:16,809
tonight, when we finished
the show and ran out,

384
00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:20,289
"the cars weren't there
and had gone to another door.

385
00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:22,689
"So we went back inside
until we could get out.

386
00:28:22,690 --> 00:28:26,169
"All the kids came out of the show
and saw the two cars around the side

387
00:28:26,170 --> 00:28:28,529
"and stormed them
and jumped all over them."

388
00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:31,610
"The drivers had to get out
and both cars were completely

389
00:28:31,611 --> 00:28:34,689
wrecked - the roofs were
right down on the seats.

390
00:28:34,690 --> 00:28:37,310
"Some girl fell through a
skylight from the roof

391
00:28:37,311 --> 00:28:39,929
of a building and 45 more
were put in hospital.

392
00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:42,049
"In the end,
we escaped in an ambulance,

393
00:28:42,050 --> 00:28:43,810
"but don't worry,
because no-one can get

394
00:28:43,811 --> 00:28:45,569
near us, for all the
police and security."

395
00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:49,209
** I got something to say
that might cause you pain **

396
00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:52,649
** If I catch you talking
to that boy again **

397
00:28:52,650 --> 00:28:55,609
** I'm gonna let you down **

398
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:57,970
** And leave you flat **

399
00:28:59,890 --> 00:29:05,089
** Because I told you before
Oh, you can't do that. **

400
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:07,609
What actors would you
like to meet in Hollywood?

401
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:10,449
Paul Newman. What actresses?

402
00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:12,649
Jayne Mansfield.

403
00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:16,769
We were all in our early
twenties, so were just going with it.

404
00:29:16,770 --> 00:29:18,889
The good side of it was that

405
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:20,530
you could really go shopping!

406
00:29:22,570 --> 00:29:24,569
You know, there's the great line

407
00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:28,609
that the Beatles,
they had one day off a month.

408
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:31,129
And on the day off,
Paul would judge a beauty pageant.

409
00:29:31,130 --> 00:29:35,689
** Everybody's green **

410
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:39,249
** Cos I'm the one who won your love

411
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:44,689
** But if they'd seen
you're talking that way **

412
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:46,529
** They'd laugh in my face **

413
00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:49,929
** So please listen to me
if you wanna stay mine **

414
00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:53,569
** I can't help my feelings
I'll go out of my mind **

415
00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:55,529
** I'm gonna let you down **

416
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:57,569
** Let you down
And leave you flat **

417
00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:59,689
** Gonna let you down
and leave you flat. **

418
00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:02,009
The Beatles only ever had one car

419
00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:04,249
and two rooms, in any hotel,
between them.

420
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:08,969
We got closer together.
The bigger it got,

421
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:12,849
the closer we became, because
from the minute you sort of left

422
00:30:12,850 --> 00:30:16,049
the security of your apartment,
the heat was on.

423
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:20,569
People wanted a piece,
wanted to talk, wanted their photo.

424
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:24,249
And so we sort of, you know,
kept each other company.

425
00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:32,849
When we first came to New York,
it's a great story

426
00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:36,529
because we had the whole floor
in the Plaza

427
00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:40,809
and the four of us
ended up in the bathroom.

428
00:30:40,810 --> 00:30:42,369
We were just sitting in there,

429
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:44,409
"Hey, how you doin'?
What's goin' on?"

430
00:30:44,410 --> 00:30:47,969
just to get a break from,
you know, the incredible pressure.

431
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:52,689
** Money don't get everything
it's true **

432
00:30:52,690 --> 00:30:56,649
** What it don't get, I can't use **
** Now give me money **

433
00:30:56,650 --> 00:30:59,969
** That's what I want
That's what I want **

434
00:30:59,970 --> 00:31:02,409
** That's what I want. **

435
00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:04,170
The next song I'd like to sing...

436
00:31:11,530 --> 00:31:16,369
..is our latest record...

437
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:19,969
..or our latest electronic noise,
depending on whose side you're on.

438
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:24,049
** That's what I want
That's what I want **

439
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:26,290
** That's what I want **

440
00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:29,809
** That's what I want, yeah. **

441
00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:33,209
Are you individually
millionaires yet?

442
00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:36,489
No, that's
another lousy rumour. I wish we were.

443
00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:38,769
All right then,
where does all the money go?

444
00:31:38,770 --> 00:31:41,490
Well, a lot of it
goes to Her Majesty.

445
00:31:42,530 --> 00:31:44,650
She's a millionaire.

446
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:48,410
** That's what I want **

447
00:31:48,411 --> 00:31:49,809
** A lot of money **

448
00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:52,489
** That's what I want **

449
00:31:52,490 --> 00:31:57,249
** That's what I want
A lot of money **

450
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,330
** That's what I want. **

451
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:06,049
"This morning,
we're off to Wellington.

452
00:32:06,050 --> 00:32:07,970
"We've been
and played here in Sydney

453
00:32:07,971 --> 00:32:10,609
"and it was the biggest drag
of all time.

454
00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:12,770
"The stage revolves
every three minutes and

455
00:32:12,771 --> 00:32:14,929
we have to walk right
down the aisles,

456
00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:16,910
"like boxers, to
get to the stage.

457
00:32:16,911 --> 00:32:18,889
At the first house, I
punched a policeman,

458
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:21,250
"because he was shoving me.
And some kids had a

459
00:32:21,251 --> 00:32:23,609
hold of me when I was trying
to get off the stage.

460
00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:26,329
"I was swearing my head off
at one policeman. Sorry.

461
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:28,489
"Later, the chief apologised to me.

462
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:32,529
"After the show, there was a party
in the hotel for Paul's birthday."

463
00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:34,209
It's great at the beginning,

464
00:32:34,210 --> 00:32:36,689
You know, where, you know,
you're recognised,

465
00:32:36,690 --> 00:32:40,169
you get a great seat
in a restaurant and, you know,

466
00:32:40,170 --> 00:32:43,889
things are bigger and things
come to you faster.

467
00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:46,609
Um, you know, all that is great.

468
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:50,569
And then you really
want that to end.

469
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:53,129
Thank you very much, ta.

470
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:55,609
Erm, this...

471
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:58,009
This number... Shush.

472
00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:00,209
Shush.

473
00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:01,970
This number we'd like to sing now...

474
00:33:01,971 --> 00:33:04,249
You fight for it,
and then when you get it,

475
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:06,050
you want it to end,
but it never ends.

476
00:33:06,051 --> 00:33:07,929
That's the deal.

477
00:33:07,930 --> 00:33:13,009
We do like the fans and enjoy
reading the publicity about us,

478
00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:16,369
but from time to time,
you don't realise that

479
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:18,289
it's actually about yourself.

480
00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:22,129
You see your pictures
and read articles about,

481
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:26,529
you know, George Harrison, Ringo
Starr, Paul and John, but you don't

482
00:33:26,530 --> 00:33:30,449
actually think, "Oh, that's me.
There I am in the paper."

483
00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:33,569
It's funny. It's just as though
it's a different person.

484
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:36,049
** Well, gonna write
a little letter **

485
00:33:36,050 --> 00:33:38,090
** Gonna mail it to my local DJ **

486
00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:44,450
** Well, it's a rocking little record
I want my jockey to play **

487
00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:47,729
** Roll over, Beethoven **

488
00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:51,609
** I gotta hear it again today **

489
00:33:51,610 --> 00:33:53,410
** You know my temperature's rising **

490
00:33:53,411 --> 00:33:56,009
** And the jukebox's
blowing a fuse. **

491
00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:58,689
Do you know where you were
this time last week?

492
00:33:58,690 --> 00:34:01,729
No. I haven't a clue.
I don't even know what day it is.

493
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:04,210
You don't know what day it is?
No. What is it?

494
00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:20,729
"We've been to the Hollywood Bowl
and done the show, which was great.

495
00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:22,369
"And the place was marvellous.

496
00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:26,129
"The seats
go right up the side of big hills.

497
00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:28,969
"Colonel Tom Parker,
Elvis's manager, came to see us,

498
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:32,529
"and gave us all real leather belts
and holster sets. Cowboy things.

499
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:35,529
"And little covered wagons,
which are television lamps.

500
00:34:35,530 --> 00:34:38,209
"He was good too and said
that Elvis wants to meet us

501
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:40,929
"and has invited us to his house
in Memphis, Tennessee.

502
00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:43,030
"Tonight, we were invited
to Burt Lancaster's

503
00:34:43,031 --> 00:34:45,129
house and he made
us very welcome.

504
00:34:45,130 --> 00:34:48,089
"His house was a knockout
and cost him a million dollars.

505
00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:53,169
"I had a swim in his pool, which was
great - and as hot as a bath almost.

506
00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:56,689
"After that, the men organising
the tour wanted us to go to

507
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:59,449
"this place called
Whiskey A Go-Go, on Sunset Strip.

508
00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:01,410
"They said we wouldn't be bothered.

509
00:35:01,411 --> 00:35:04,190
"We got there and went
in and fought our way,

510
00:35:04,191 --> 00:35:06,969
with Mal and a few big
hard men, to a table

511
00:35:06,970 --> 00:35:09,809
"where John and Derek were.
And Jayne Mansfield."

512
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:12,409
"By this time,
after fighting through the crowd,

513
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:15,009
"I was annoyed and threw
some Coke on a cameraman.

514
00:35:15,010 --> 00:35:18,369
"We all fought our way back out
and jumped in the car and went home.

515
00:35:18,370 --> 00:35:21,729
"It was a drag and we were there
for about ten minutes altogether.

516
00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:24,449
"You see why we don't
usually bother going out now."

517
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:26,369
How did George deal with it?

518
00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:30,809
George, you know, George had two
incredible separate personalities.

519
00:35:30,810 --> 00:35:36,129
He had the lovebag of beads
personality and the bag of anger.

520
00:35:36,130 --> 00:35:39,969
He was very black and white.

521
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:44,889
Whether you will go along
with any change in taste. Er, no.

522
00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:47,769
Well, you never know,
because we have.

523
00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:50,809
We change anyway, don't we? Yeah.

524
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:54,009
We hope you've enjoyed the show
tonight. Have you enjoyed it?

525
00:35:58,530 --> 00:36:02,290
** There's a fog upon LA **

526
00:36:04,570 --> 00:36:10,169
** And my friends have
lost their way **

527
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:15,650
** We'll be over soon, they say **

528
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:22,930
** Now they've lost
themselves instead **

529
00:36:25,090 --> 00:36:29,329
** Please don't be long... **

530
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:31,209
I was boss of Parlophone Records

531
00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:33,969
and I'd made it my business,
over the previous years,

532
00:36:33,970 --> 00:36:38,929
to develop Parlophone as
a comedy label. And, in fact,

533
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:44,769
when Brian Epstein desperately took
us on, or hoped we would take him on,

534
00:36:44,770 --> 00:36:47,809
he felt he'd hit rock bottom,
cos he'd been everywhere else

535
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:49,969
and now he was ending up
on a comedy label.

536
00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:53,649
I first met The Beatles in 1962.

537
00:36:53,650 --> 00:36:56,769
I wasn't terribly impressed
with the first stuff they did.

538
00:36:56,770 --> 00:36:58,790
I couldn't make out the sound.

539
00:36:58,791 --> 00:37:00,809
You know, it was something
I hadn't heard before.

540
00:37:00,810 --> 00:37:03,809
So I looked at these four guys,
and thought,

541
00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:07,569
"Well, none of them shines
as being above all the others."

542
00:37:07,570 --> 00:37:09,289
And I had to make up my mind,

543
00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:12,729
in my silly mind, who
the lead singer was going to be.

544
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:16,689
Suddenly, I realised I would
take them as they were, as a group.

545
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:20,409
The hell with a lead singer.
They would be singing together.

546
00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:23,329
So we were struggling
with the sound a bit.

547
00:37:23,330 --> 00:37:26,590
And I said to the boys,
after we'd done a

548
00:37:26,591 --> 00:37:29,849
few takes of rather
nondescript songs,

549
00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:32,689
"Come into the control room
and have a listen

550
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:34,929
"and see what we've been doing.

551
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:38,489
"And if there's anything
you don't like, tell us."

552
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:42,009
And George was the one
who took the leap.

553
00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:46,369
And he said, "Well, I don't
like your tie for a start."

554
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:50,849
And the others were horrified.
They thought, "God, he's blown it."

555
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:53,729
But, of course,
I fell around laughing.

556
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,289
I thought it was so cheeky
and so funny that I...

557
00:37:57,290 --> 00:38:00,890
You know, he endeared himself to me
at that point.

558
00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:14,489
** I give her all my love **

559
00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:18,249
** That's all I do **

560
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:22,809
** And if you saw my love **

561
00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:26,329
** You'd love her, too **

562
00:38:26,330 --> 00:38:29,889
** I love her... **

563
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:32,410
John and I would write the songs
the week before the studio.

564
00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:34,929
Brian Epstein would
ring us up and say,

565
00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:36,830
"You're in the studio next week.

566
00:38:36,831 --> 00:38:38,729
You've got a week off.
" We'd go, "Yes!"

567
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:42,009
He'd say, "But you've got to write
the album." We'd go, "Yes!"

568
00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:44,929
So we'd just, you know...
Each day we'd write a song,

569
00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:48,329
so we can have seven or so songs
to go in with,

570
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:51,089
which was enough to start with.

571
00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:55,129
And we'd go in the studio,
ten in the morning,

572
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:59,889
and this was the first time George and
Ringo had heard any of the songs.

573
00:38:59,890 --> 00:39:03,809
So this is how good they were. John
and I would go, "It goes like this."

574
00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:06,969
** She loves you, yeah... **
Or whatever it was.

575
00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:08,489
And they'd go, "Mmm-hmm."

576
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:12,369
George would cop the chords. He'd
go, "Uh-huh," not writing them down.

577
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:15,969
It was just like, "Yeah, I can see
what you're doing. Cos I'm one of you.

578
00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:19,969
"I didn't write it,
but I see what you did."

579
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:23,890
And Ringo would just stand around with
his sticks and do a little thing.

580
00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:42,929
I was just thinking actually
about my song And I Love Her.

581
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:45,969
** And I give her all my love... **
I had that,

582
00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:49,249
but then George comes in with...
** Do-do-do-do. **

583
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,169
Now, you think about that.
That's the song.

584
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:56,289
But he made that up on the session.
Cos knew the chords, and we said,

585
00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:58,729
"It needs a riff."
I didn't write that.

586
00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:02,969
When we got together in the studio,
whoever had written the song

587
00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:06,529
would be the kind of boss in leading
the other guys through it.

588
00:40:06,530 --> 00:40:10,089
Paul and John,
being the songwriters...

589
00:40:10,090 --> 00:40:13,769
and at that stage, George wasn't
showing himself to be a songwriter...

590
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:15,689
they were the dominant forces.

591
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:20,289
George and Ringo were slightly
behind Paul and John,

592
00:40:20,290 --> 00:40:23,769
because Paul and John were
the writers and the lead singers.

593
00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:28,889
I guess George
was kind of a loner, really,

594
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:34,009
because he was outside the team
that were providing the hits.

595
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:38,329
John and Paul had each other
to play against.

596
00:40:38,330 --> 00:40:40,470
And their collaboration
was much more of a

597
00:40:40,471 --> 00:40:42,609
competition than a
collaboration, really.

598
00:40:42,610 --> 00:40:45,250
One would do something,
and the other one would

599
00:40:45,251 --> 00:40:47,889
say, "Gosh, I think I can
do better than that,"

600
00:40:47,890 --> 00:40:49,929
and try and make something better.

601
00:40:49,930 --> 00:40:53,330
George was the sole guy.
He had no-one to work with.

602
00:41:00,210 --> 00:41:04,209
The funny position I was in was
that, in many ways, you know,

603
00:41:04,210 --> 00:41:07,649
this whole focus of attention
was on The Beatles,

604
00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:10,569
so in that respect,
I was part of it.

605
00:41:10,570 --> 00:41:12,570
But from being in them...

606
00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:18,889
..an attitude came over,
which was John and Paul.

607
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:24,289
"OK, you know, we're the grooves
and you two just watch it."

608
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:26,350
I mean, don't forget,
I spent ten years

609
00:41:26,351 --> 00:41:28,409
in the back of the
limousine with them.

610
00:41:28,410 --> 00:41:29,929
That speed.

611
00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:34,529
Don't Bother Me. This is
remake recording, take ten.

612
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:36,910
'Don't Bother Me was
the first song.

613
00:41:36,911 --> 00:41:39,289
It was written basically
as an exercise

614
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:43,049
'to see if I could write a song,
cos I thought,

615
00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:47,329
'"Well, if John and Paul can write,
everybody must be able to."'

616
00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,730
Two, three, four.

617
00:41:54,490 --> 00:41:58,570
** Since she's been gone
I want no-one to talk to me... **

618
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:04,329
Hang on, it's going too fast.
Take 12. One, two...

619
00:42:04,330 --> 00:42:07,289
'I wrote that in
the hotel in Bournemouth.

620
00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:10,169
'We were doing the summer season,
and I was sick in bed.

621
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:12,689
'Maybe that's why it turned out
Don't Bother Me.

622
00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:15,209
'Yeah. It's not
a particularly good song,

623
00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:17,710
'but it at least showed
me that, you know,

624
00:42:17,711 --> 00:42:20,209
all I needed to do
was keep on writing

625
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:24,569
'and maybe some day I'd...

626
00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:26,889
'write something good.

627
00:42:26,890 --> 00:42:28,650
'I still feel, right at this point,

628
00:42:28,651 --> 00:42:31,889
'I still keep thinking, "I wish
I could write something good."'

629
00:42:31,890 --> 00:42:37,689
** Since she's been gone
I want no-one to talk to me **

630
00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:39,929
** It's not the same
but I'm to blame **

631
00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:43,929
** It's plain to see **

632
00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:47,929
** So go away, leave me alone,
don't bother me **

633
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:53,689
** I can't believe
that she would leave me on my own **

634
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:59,609
** It's just not right
when every night I'm all alone **

635
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:06,049
** I've got no time for you
right now, don't bother me **

636
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:10,289
** I know I'll never be the same **

637
00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:16,129
** If I don't get her back again **

638
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:22,609
** Because I know she'll always be **

639
00:43:22,610 --> 00:43:27,649
** The only girl for me. **

640
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:32,489
When I saw
George and Pattie together,

641
00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:37,529
the way they fit into The Beatles
thing, all of their domesticity

642
00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:42,409
seemed to be like Camelot,
you know. It was like...

643
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:44,409
And I was the Lancelot, in a way.

644
00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:47,809
I was kind of this lone wolf

645
00:43:47,810 --> 00:43:51,850
without really any direction.

646
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:07,369
I saw The Beatles

647
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:08,929
play at the Hammersmith Odeon

648
00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:11,489
when I was bottom
of the bill in The Yardbirds.

649
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:15,169
This band was like...
They were like a single person.

650
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:17,690
It was an odd phenomenon,
in fact, that they

651
00:44:17,691 --> 00:44:20,209
seemed to move together
and think together.

652
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:22,689
It was almost
like a little family unit.

653
00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:26,409
I was very, very suspicious
about what they were up to.

654
00:44:26,410 --> 00:44:30,209
But when I saw them play, I mean,
I was overwhelmed by their gift.

655
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:33,210
Each one of them
seemed to be very

656
00:44:33,211 --> 00:44:36,209
well-endowed with their
own musical capacity.

657
00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:38,889
But the sad part was

658
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:42,689
that no-one listened to them,
and that their audience,

659
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:45,409
which they had cultivated,
I suppose,

660
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:48,769
they were 12-year-old girls.

661
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:51,569
He was clearly an innovator.

662
00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:55,249
George, to me,
was taking certain elements

663
00:44:55,250 --> 00:45:00,489
of R&B and rock and rockabilly

664
00:45:00,490 --> 00:45:02,729
and creating something unique.

665
00:45:02,730 --> 00:45:05,030
They were very
generous to everybody.

666
00:45:05,031 --> 00:45:07,329
They took time to come
and talk to everybody.

667
00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:11,329
I didn't feel threatened
at all, because I had quite a lot

668
00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:14,929
of self-confidence going
in my concept of myself

669
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:18,649
as being this sort of
blues missionary, as it were.

670
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:23,089
And I wasn't looking
for any favours from anybody.

671
00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:26,070
And George recognised
me as an equal, because

672
00:45:26,071 --> 00:45:29,049
I had a level of
proficiency even then

673
00:45:29,050 --> 00:45:32,769
that he saw as being
fairly unique too, you know.

674
00:45:32,770 --> 00:45:36,169
George chose to move into
a house in Esher.

675
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:40,689
And Esher is maybe eight miles north
of where I was born.

676
00:45:40,690 --> 00:45:43,969
And we became friends and
I would go and visit them there.

677
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:47,969
Something grew out of the music
and the kind of people we were.

678
00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:51,289
I think we shared
a lot of tastes, too.

679
00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:55,569
You know, superficial things -
cars or clothes, but...

680
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:57,289
And women, obviously.

681
00:45:57,290 --> 00:46:02,089
But I think what George
might have liked about me

682
00:46:02,090 --> 00:46:04,969
was the fact that I was
a kind of free agent.

683
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:07,169
And I think, if anything,

684
00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:09,930
he may have already been
wondering about whether

685
00:46:09,931 --> 00:46:12,689
he was in the right
place being in a group,

686
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:17,209
cos the group politic is a tricky
one. You know, there was a lot about

687
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:19,449
what he had going which I envied,

688
00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:23,089
and there was a lot about
what I had going that he envied.

689
00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:26,129
What did he have going
that you envied?

690
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:30,249
Well, I suppose, money, status.

691
00:46:30,250 --> 00:46:32,289
You know, the classic things.

692
00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:35,490
The Beatles, man, come on.

693
00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:40,489
In the beginning, in the early days,

694
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:43,689
what was good about
being George's friend

695
00:46:43,690 --> 00:46:46,929
was that it was kind of
like basking in the sunshine

696
00:46:46,930 --> 00:46:49,529
of this immense creativity.

697
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:53,089
We'd like to carry on with a song

698
00:46:53,090 --> 00:46:55,850
which is off our last LP.

699
00:46:57,290 --> 00:47:00,129
The LP's called Rubber Soul,
and the song,

700
00:47:00,130 --> 00:47:02,769
which is sung by
our guitarist George,

701
00:47:02,770 --> 00:47:06,810
is called If I Needed Someone.

702
00:47:14,690 --> 00:47:18,489
** If I needed someone to love **

703
00:47:18,490 --> 00:47:23,130
** You're the one
that I'd be thinking of **

704
00:47:24,450 --> 00:47:27,570
** If I needed someone **

705
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:34,249
** If I had some more time to spend **

706
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:39,130
** I guess I'd be with
you, my friend **

707
00:47:40,210 --> 00:47:43,290
** If I needed someone. **

708
00:47:45,970 --> 00:47:50,529
This is largely an appeal
to the feminine heart,

709
00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:54,129
the heart of the young girl
who worships love

710
00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:56,369
and the goddess of love

711
00:47:56,370 --> 00:47:59,009
and the heroes of love.

712
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:03,009
And this plays
the dominant part in her life.

713
00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:06,969
So the vast majority
of the fans are girls,

714
00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:10,889
who come there to worship
at the shrine of the goddess

715
00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:14,089
or the young god hero,
as they did in the ancient past.

716
00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:17,089
I've seen this with
the most dramatic intensity

717
00:48:17,090 --> 00:48:21,729
with The Beatles playing to 2,000
or 3,000 young girls in Manchester.

718
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:26,129
Apart from another journalist,
I was the only male in the audience.

719
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:29,689
And I've never experienced
anything like it myself.

720
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:34,009
If I were confronted
with 10,000 Loch Ness monsters,

721
00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:37,969
I wouldn't be so impressed
by this whistling and wailing

722
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:41,369
and possession of the soul
of these young girls.

723
00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:45,489
Would you say it's true that
the devotion your group attracts

724
00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:48,009
is essentially religious in nature?
No.

725
00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:53,129
In what way is it not? Well,
in what ways do you think it is?

726
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:56,209
The fervour, the excitement
that it inspires in young people.

727
00:48:56,210 --> 00:48:58,929
Would you say football crowds
are any more religious,

728
00:48:58,930 --> 00:49:01,330
or football fanatics have
any more religion in

729
00:49:01,331 --> 00:49:03,729
them than Beatle fanatics?
I don't think so.

730
00:49:06,370 --> 00:49:09,969
One value divides the generations
more sharply than any other...

731
00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:13,729
religion. The gap is greatest
between college students

732
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:15,409
and their parents.

733
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:19,449
The question was whether belonging
to some organised religion

734
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:21,569
is important in a person's life.

735
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:24,969
Nine out of ten parents say it is.

736
00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:29,209
Only four out of ten college
students say religion is important.

737
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:32,329
And the more radical
the youth, politically,

738
00:49:32,330 --> 00:49:37,409
the more likely he is to reject the
religious values of adult society.

739
00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:41,129
Still, the gap is there,
whatever the politics.

740
00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:43,450
Well, some of the remarks
attributed to you

741
00:49:43,451 --> 00:49:45,769
in some of the newspapers,
the press here,

742
00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:48,430
concerning the remark you
made comparing the relative

743
00:49:48,431 --> 00:49:51,089
popularity of The Beatles
with Jesus Christ,

744
00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:54,090
and that The Beatles
were more popular -

745
00:49:54,091 --> 00:49:57,089
created quite a controversy
and furore here.

746
00:49:57,090 --> 00:49:59,249
Would you clarify the remark?

747
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:01,689
Well, I've clarified it
about 800 times.

748
00:50:01,690 --> 00:50:04,889
I could have said TV,
or something else, you know.

749
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:06,929
And that's as clear as it can be.

750
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:10,569
There were other evidences that that
ol' time religion was under attack.

751
00:50:10,570 --> 00:50:13,009
Evangelist Billy Graham
went to London,

752
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,649
hoping he could stop England
from swinging.

753
00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:19,809
In the process, he was almost
engulfed by sin on a Soho street.

754
00:50:19,810 --> 00:50:22,929
And I think a great deal of what
we see among young people today

755
00:50:22,930 --> 00:50:25,390
is actually a spiritual search.
These young

756
00:50:25,391 --> 00:50:27,849
people are searching for
a creed to believe in,

757
00:50:27,850 --> 00:50:30,489
a song to sing
and a cause to follow.

758
00:50:30,490 --> 00:50:34,169
** Carve your number on my wall **

759
00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:39,849
** And maybe you will
get a call from me **

760
00:50:39,850 --> 00:50:42,730
** If I needed someone **

761
00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:49,169
** Ah **

762
00:50:49,170 --> 00:50:52,889
** Ah **

763
00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:56,689
** Ah **

764
00:50:56,690 --> 00:51:00,289
** Ah. **

765
00:51:00,290 --> 00:51:03,569
Before we sort of made it,
as they say,

766
00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:06,290
money was part of the
goal, but it still

767
00:51:06,291 --> 00:51:09,009
wasn't a sort of,
"Let's get some money."

768
00:51:09,010 --> 00:51:11,750
But we sort of got...
We suddenly had

769
00:51:11,751 --> 00:51:14,489
money, and then it
wasn't all that good.

770
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:17,569
By having the money, we found
that money wasn't the answer,

771
00:51:17,570 --> 00:51:21,449
because we had lots
of material things

772
00:51:21,450 --> 00:51:25,769
that people sort of spend
their whole life to try to get.

773
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:29,049
And we managed to get them
at quite an early age.

774
00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:32,409
And it was good, really, because
we learned that that wasn't it.

775
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:36,249
We still lacked something. And that
something is the thing that religion

776
00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:37,889
is trying to give to people.

777
00:51:37,890 --> 00:51:40,969
Have they changed
because of all this?

778
00:51:40,970 --> 00:51:44,369
Altered...developed, perhaps,
but not...um...

779
00:51:44,370 --> 00:51:48,489
not changed too much. They're not
in any way contaminated by it.

780
00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:51,809
Not nearly as seriously contaminated
as many of the people who...

781
00:51:51,810 --> 00:51:56,169
um...occasionally surround us.

782
00:51:56,170 --> 00:52:01,329
They remain very calm
and bland and simple.

783
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:03,969
And they don't know
what it's all about.

784
00:52:03,970 --> 00:52:07,529
They simply want to play
their music and write it.

785
00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:10,170
They're very normal. Thank goodness.

786
00:52:11,930 --> 00:52:16,729
I came home one day with the kids and
Derek said, "Brian's just phoned."

787
00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:21,129
Brian Epstein. "And he's having
a housewarming in Sussex,

788
00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:24,689
"and he wants us to go. He wants
all his friends to be there."

789
00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:28,529
So we rallied all
our babysitters together

790
00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:32,089
and we found ourselves on a plane.

791
00:52:32,090 --> 00:52:35,249
And we arrived at Heathrow,

792
00:52:35,250 --> 00:52:39,449
and waiting for us
was John and George.

793
00:52:39,450 --> 00:52:43,169
And they were dressed
in this exotic way.

794
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:46,689
They had silk shirts, and they
were this incredible colour.

795
00:52:46,690 --> 00:52:49,329
And they hugged us and
they kissed us, and they...

796
00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:54,330
All of a sudden, it's like there are
no barriers. No handshakes, it's...

797
00:52:56,330 --> 00:53:00,969
.."What's happening?"
And we were swept out to this...

798
00:53:00,970 --> 00:53:05,649
to outside Heathrow Airport,
where John's Rolls-Royce,

799
00:53:05,650 --> 00:53:09,609
like a Romany caravan,
was waiting for us.

800
00:53:09,610 --> 00:53:11,329
George, in his Mini,

801
00:53:11,330 --> 00:53:16,289
and us in the Rolls-Royce, with Procol
Harum playing Whiter Shade Of Pale,

802
00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:19,089
driving along
the English country roads

803
00:53:19,090 --> 00:53:23,249
from Surrey to Sussex.
And Brian was waiting for us.

804
00:53:23,250 --> 00:53:28,249
And there were all sorts of his
friends, famous and not-so-famous.

805
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:31,529
And George gave Derek acid

806
00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:34,289
and John gave me acid.

807
00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:36,769
And then John gave Derek acid.

808
00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:39,369
So Derek had a double dose.

809
00:53:39,370 --> 00:53:45,089
And we spent the whole night
with them...

810
00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:47,929
on this mind adventure,

811
00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:51,970
which Paul had described to us
as "controlled weirdness".

812
00:53:53,810 --> 00:53:57,049
I'm not quite sure how controlled
it was, but it was weird.

813
00:53:57,050 --> 00:54:01,409
But it was wonderful, and it bonded
us, because they were so kind to us.

814
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,889
And we came through it

815
00:54:03,890 --> 00:54:08,289
and we walked out into
this English country garden

816
00:54:08,290 --> 00:54:10,449
with the night receding

817
00:54:10,450 --> 00:54:12,249
and the sun coming.

818
00:54:12,250 --> 00:54:15,809
Sitting in an English garden
waiting for the sun - well,

819
00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:18,490
that was what happened,
literally, what happened.

820
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:23,849
When we took the notorious
wonder drug LSD...

821
00:54:23,850 --> 00:54:25,049
Yes.

822
00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:27,409
..it was... We didn't
know we were having it.

823
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:31,409
John and I had this drug
and it was given...

824
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:34,929
We were having dinner
with our dentist...

825
00:54:35,970 --> 00:54:38,090
..and he put it in our
coffee and never told us.

826
00:54:38,091 --> 00:54:40,209
And we'd we never heard of it.

827
00:54:40,210 --> 00:54:42,350
I mean, it's a good job
we hadn't heard of

828
00:54:42,351 --> 00:54:44,489
it, because there's
been so much paranoia

829
00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:48,289
created around the drug,
that people now, if they take it,

830
00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:50,849
they're already on a bad trip
before they start.

831
00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:54,529
Whereas for us, we didn't
know anything. We were so naive.

832
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:58,929
So we had it and we went out
to a club and it was incredible.

833
00:54:58,930 --> 00:55:01,090
It was really incredible.

834
00:55:04,570 --> 00:55:07,809
Something like
a very concentrated version

835
00:55:07,810 --> 00:55:11,449
of the best feeling
I'd ever had in my life.

836
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:14,849
It was just, like, fantastic.

837
00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:18,689
I just felt, like, in love.

838
00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:23,609
But not with anything in particular,
or anybody, just with everything.

839
00:55:23,610 --> 00:55:25,209
Just everything was perfect.

840
00:55:25,210 --> 00:55:31,009
And we walked and things weren't
the same that night as they'd been.

841
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:34,649
It was... All this Alice In
Wonderland stuff was going on,

842
00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:36,609
but strange things.

843
00:55:36,610 --> 00:55:41,369
I remember Pattie was,
you know, half playfully,

844
00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:44,489
but half kind of crazy,

845
00:55:44,490 --> 00:55:48,329
was trying to smash a shop window.

846
00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:51,929
And I was kind of being like,
"Come on now, don't be silly.

847
00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:57,409
"This way."
And we got round this corner

848
00:55:57,410 --> 00:56:00,689
and there were all
these lights and taxis.

849
00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:03,410
It looked like there was a
big film premiere going on.

850
00:56:03,411 --> 00:56:06,129
It was probably just the
doorway to the nightclub.

851
00:56:06,130 --> 00:56:09,129
It seemed like, you know,
it looked very bright.

852
00:56:09,130 --> 00:56:15,249
And all these people with makeup that
was like, this thick on their faces.

853
00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:17,049
You know, like masks.

854
00:56:17,050 --> 00:56:19,809
I had this lingering thought

855
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:25,289
that just stayed with me after that.

856
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:29,009
And this thought was
the Yogis of the Himalayas.

857
00:56:29,010 --> 00:56:31,090
I don't know why. It just...

858
00:56:31,091 --> 00:56:33,169
I'd never thought about them
for the rest of my life.

859
00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:37,489
But suddenly this thought was in
the back of my consciousness.

860
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:41,929
It was like somebody was
whispering to me, you know.

861
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:43,490
"The Yogis of the Himalayas."

862
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:50,770
** Prabhujee **

863
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:57,489
** Dayaa karo **

864
00:56:57,490 --> 00:57:05,489
** Prabhujee dayaa karo **

865
00:57:05,490 --> 00:57:12,290
** Maname aana baso **

866
00:57:14,410 --> 00:57:21,889
** Maname aana baso **

867
00:57:21,890 --> 00:57:24,169
** Prabhujee. **

868
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:28,210
Interview du Mister George Harrison
et Ravi Shankar par Michel Guillard.

869
00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:34,849
Sound is God.

870
00:57:34,850 --> 00:57:39,049
And through sound,
or that is true good music,

871
00:57:39,050 --> 00:57:43,249
there can be also music
which can be devil.

872
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:45,890
I don't want to name which music.

873
00:57:47,850 --> 00:57:51,369
But music can excite you
and make you, ahh, and go mad.

874
00:57:51,370 --> 00:57:54,049
People go, you know, crazy.
That is also music.

875
00:57:54,050 --> 00:57:57,049
But it didn't...doesn't lead you

876
00:57:57,050 --> 00:58:02,489
spiritually towards God.
But music has this power,

877
00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:05,009
whether it is through
the Gregorian chants

878
00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:06,929
or beautiful Baroque music,

879
00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:09,609
or Indian music,
or even folk songs,

880
00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:13,209
beautifully sung by people
with beautiful voices.

881
00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:17,689
Our music has been handed down
from person to person.

882
00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:21,329
It's an oral tradition.
It's not a written-down music.

883
00:58:21,330 --> 00:58:23,649
And the guru passes
not just the technique,

884
00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:26,889
but the whole spiritual, uh, aspect.

885
00:58:26,890 --> 00:58:30,209
All the meaning of life, philosophy,

886
00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:32,489
everything is passed along
with the music.

887
00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:13,569
The fact that I met so many people,
I can meet anybody, you know.

888
00:59:13,570 --> 00:59:17,769
You could go in all the film stars'
houses and Elvis and everybody.

889
00:59:17,770 --> 00:59:20,610
And we met a lot of really
good people, but we didn't...

890
00:59:20,611 --> 00:59:23,449
I never met one person
who really impressed me.

891
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:26,049
The first person who ever
impressed me in my life

892
00:59:26,050 --> 00:59:29,729
was Ravi Shankar and he was the only
person who didn't try to impress me.

893
00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:33,409
Why did he impress you?
Because it was by his being.

894
00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:36,969
He taught me so much without
actually saying a word.

895
00:59:36,970 --> 00:59:38,090
It's by example.

896
00:59:38,091 --> 00:59:44,409
Now try to count five, five and six.
Five, five makes ten. Yeah.

897
00:59:44,410 --> 00:59:46,289
And six makes 16.

898
00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:48,409
Nine, ten, 11, 12, 13, 14.

899
00:59:48,410 --> 00:59:50,289
One, two, three, four, five.

900
00:59:50,290 --> 00:59:54,009
One, two, three, four, five. One two,
three, four, five. One, two.

901
00:59:54,010 --> 00:59:56,609
Five. One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven.

902
00:59:56,610 --> 00:59:58,689
One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven.

903
00:59:58,690 --> 01:00:00,729
One, two, three,
four, five, six.

904
01:00:00,730 --> 01:00:03,649
What you can do, if it is
difficult for you to touch,

905
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:06,769
one, two, three, four. Just...

906
01:00:08,050 --> 01:00:09,489
It's very difficult.

907
01:00:09,490 --> 01:00:13,209
Two, three, four, one, two,
three, four, one, two, three, four,

908
01:00:13,210 --> 01:00:15,769
one, two... No, one.
One, two, three...

909
01:00:15,770 --> 01:00:17,929
If you're trying to find something,

910
01:00:17,930 --> 01:00:23,129
to find the source of that thing
is very difficult,

911
01:00:23,130 --> 01:00:30,409
but my blessing was to be able
to have Ravi as my, uh, patchcord.

912
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:32,969
He could plug me in
to the real thing,

913
01:00:32,970 --> 01:00:37,290
so my experience of it
was always the best quality.

914
01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:20,489
** Each day just goes so fast **

915
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:23,689
** I turn around, it's past **

916
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:31,690
** You don't get time
to hang a sign on me **

917
01:01:35,290 --> 01:01:40,649
** Love me while you can **

918
01:01:40,650 --> 01:01:42,250
** Before I'm a dead old man... **

919
01:01:45,850 --> 01:01:50,849
Ravi and the sitar was kind of
like an excuse to try and find

920
01:01:50,850 --> 01:01:52,529
this spiritual connection.

921
01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:56,209
I read stuff by various
holy men and Swamis

922
01:01:56,210 --> 01:02:00,169
and mystics and I went around
and looked for them.

923
01:02:00,170 --> 01:02:05,289
Ravi and his brother gave me a lot
of books by some wise men.

924
01:02:05,290 --> 01:02:09,489
One of the books, which was
by a Swami Vivekananda, who said,

925
01:02:09,490 --> 01:02:11,929
"If there's a God you must see Him

926
01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:14,449
"and if there's a soul,
we must perceive it.

927
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:16,769
"Otherwise it's better
not to believe.

928
01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:20,289
"It's better to be an outspoken
atheist than a hypocrite."

929
01:02:20,290 --> 01:02:23,230
And after all my life
I've been brought up,

930
01:02:23,231 --> 01:02:26,169
well, they tried to bring
me up as a Catholic.

931
01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:30,449
They had told you to just believe
what they're telling you,

932
01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:34,129
and, you know, not to have
the direct experience.

933
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:36,529
And this, for me, going to India

934
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:38,969
and hearing somebody saying,
you know,

935
01:02:38,970 --> 01:02:43,969
"No, you can't believe anything until
you have direct perception of it".

936
01:02:43,970 --> 01:02:47,729
And I thought, "Wow, you know,
fantastic! At last, you know,

937
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:51,889
"found somebody who...
makes some sense."

938
01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:55,089
And so I wanted to go deeper
and deeper into that.

939
01:02:55,090 --> 01:03:01,049
I think that George's experiences
of expanding his mind with acid...

940
01:03:01,050 --> 01:03:08,649
led him to looking for something
that didn't need chemicals.

941
01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:13,489
He knew that there was a point where
you couldn't keep on doing that.

942
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:18,329
And it wouldn't be good for you,
if you did keep on using chemicals.

943
01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:21,850
So he was looking for...

944
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:25,609
He was always looking for the truth

945
01:03:25,610 --> 01:03:28,250
and he was also looking
for peace of mind...

946
01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:34,009
..because it was...
it was pretty crazy.

947
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:38,889
John would pick us up in this big
Rolls Royce with blacked-out windows,

948
01:03:38,890 --> 01:03:42,649
and Ringo, John and I
all moved out of town to Surrey.

949
01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:45,689
And then he'd pick up Ringo
and then pick me up

950
01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:48,010
and then we'd head into
town and, by the time

951
01:03:48,011 --> 01:03:50,329
we got to Hammersmith,
we were just loaded

952
01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,390
and feeling ill, cos,
you know, a Rolls

953
01:03:52,391 --> 01:03:54,449
Royce doesn't have
the proper springs.

954
01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:57,929
They just roll around.
And the black windows,

955
01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:01,529
you couldn't see anything out
and the windows would be shut

956
01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:06,369
and so you'd just be getting
double doses of these reefers.

957
01:04:06,370 --> 01:04:08,950
And then we'd pull up
at Abbey Road Studio

958
01:04:08,951 --> 01:04:11,529
and just be, like,
fall out of the car.

959
01:04:11,530 --> 01:04:15,769
We have to thank Paul that we made
as many records as we did because,

960
01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:18,809
you know, John and I,
cos we lived in the same area,

961
01:04:18,810 --> 01:04:20,249
would be hanging out.

962
01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:23,249
It's like a beautiful day
in the garden in England

963
01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:26,129
and the phone'd ring
and we'd always know it was him.

964
01:04:26,130 --> 01:04:27,889
"He wants us to work!"

965
01:04:27,890 --> 01:04:32,289
I mean, everywhere we went,
people were smiling and,

966
01:04:32,290 --> 01:04:35,249
you know, sitting on lawns,
drinking tea.

967
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:40,809
I went to Haight-Ashbury, expecting
it to be this brilliant place,

968
01:04:40,810 --> 01:04:44,049
I thought it was
going to be all these groovy

969
01:04:44,050 --> 01:04:48,689
kind of gypsy kind of people, with
little shops making works of art

970
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:51,329
and paintings and carvings.

971
01:04:51,330 --> 01:04:55,609
But, instead, it turned
out to be just a lot of bums.

972
01:04:55,610 --> 01:04:58,409
And many of them,
they were just very young kids

973
01:04:58,410 --> 01:05:00,369
who'd come from all over America

974
01:05:00,370 --> 01:05:05,569
and dropped acid
and gone to this Mecca of LSD.

975
01:05:05,570 --> 01:05:06,890
We'd walk down the street

976
01:05:06,891 --> 01:05:10,809
and I was, like, being treated
like the Messiah or something.

977
01:05:10,810 --> 01:05:13,610
I was really afraid,
because I could see

978
01:05:13,611 --> 01:05:16,409
all these spotty youths
and they were...

979
01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:21,329
still an undercurrent
of Beatlemania,

980
01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:25,169
but from a, kind of, twisted angle.

981
01:05:25,170 --> 01:05:28,569
And they were...
People were handing me things,

982
01:05:28,570 --> 01:05:31,609
like there was this big pipe,

983
01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:34,009
like a big Indian pipe
with feathers on it

984
01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:38,769
and books and incense and,
you know, all kinds of stuff.

985
01:05:38,770 --> 01:05:41,089
And trying to give me drugs and,

986
01:05:41,090 --> 01:05:43,569
you know, I'd say
"No, thanks, I don't want it."

987
01:05:43,570 --> 01:05:46,529
We were walking quicker and quicker.
We went through the park

988
01:05:46,530 --> 01:05:49,689
and back out of the park,
and in the end, we just said,

989
01:05:49,690 --> 01:05:51,169
"Let's get out of here."

990
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:55,329
And we drove back to the airport,
got on the jet, and as it took off,

991
01:05:55,330 --> 01:05:59,369
the plane went into a stall,
and the whole dashboard lit up,

992
01:05:59,370 --> 01:06:01,529
saying "Unsafe" right across.

993
01:06:01,530 --> 01:06:06,249
It certainly showed me what was
really happening in the drug cult.

994
01:06:06,250 --> 01:06:09,529
It wasn't what I thought of all
these groovy people getting...

995
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:13,649
having spiritual awakenings
and being artistic.

996
01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:16,849
It was like any addiction.

997
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:20,489
So, at that point,
I stopped taking it, actually,

998
01:06:20,490 --> 01:06:23,209
the dreaded Lysergic.

999
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:26,529
That's where I really went
for the meditation.

1000
01:07:05,850 --> 01:07:08,369
** Let me take you down **

1001
01:07:08,370 --> 01:07:14,170
** Cos I'm going to
Strawberry Fields **

1002
01:07:16,810 --> 01:07:19,370
** Nothing is real **

1003
01:07:20,810 --> 01:07:23,570
** And nothing to get hung about **

1004
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:28,250
** Strawberry Fields forever **

1005
01:07:29,410 --> 01:07:34,529
** Living is easy with eyes closed **

1006
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:38,250
** Misunderstanding all you see... **

1007
01:07:41,330 --> 01:07:45,049
We'd stopped touring.
We were now in the mid-60s.

1008
01:07:45,050 --> 01:07:47,089
We were partying

1009
01:07:47,090 --> 01:07:53,649
and I think we, kind of, lost,
sort of, our spiritual direction.

1010
01:07:53,650 --> 01:07:56,449
Not that we ever had one,
but we lost it.

1011
01:07:56,450 --> 01:08:00,889
So we were, kind of,
experimenting in anything.

1012
01:08:00,890 --> 01:08:03,089
It was the time of Sgt Pepper,

1013
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:06,369
and I'd written a song,
the title song,

1014
01:08:06,370 --> 01:08:10,489
and I put it to the guys
that what we should do,

1015
01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:13,929
we could make this record now
under another persona.

1016
01:08:13,930 --> 01:08:17,409
We'll be this other band.
And it will free us.

1017
01:08:17,410 --> 01:08:20,969
The idea was we could
bring anything we wanted,

1018
01:08:20,970 --> 01:08:25,089
because now, you know, there was
no lid on what we could do.

1019
01:08:25,090 --> 01:08:28,570
When we were doing Sgt
Pepper, he presented

1020
01:08:28,571 --> 01:08:32,050
us with a song which I
thought was boring.

1021
01:08:33,690 --> 01:08:35,650
And I had to tell him so.
And I said,

1022
01:08:35,651 --> 01:08:37,970
"George, honestly, I
think we could do...

1023
01:08:37,971 --> 01:08:40,289
you could do something
better for this record,

1024
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:42,889
"because it's going to be
an astonishing record.

1025
01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:45,929
"There's so many
great moments in it.

1026
01:08:45,930 --> 01:08:48,230
"And do you mind going
away and thinking

1027
01:08:48,231 --> 01:08:50,530
about it and coming up
with something else?"

1028
01:08:58,970 --> 01:09:03,609
** We were talking **

1029
01:09:03,610 --> 01:09:10,729
** About the space between us all **

1030
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:15,929
** And the people **

1031
01:09:15,930 --> 01:09:21,409
** Who hide themselves behind **

1032
01:09:21,410 --> 01:09:25,810
** A wall of illusion **

1033
01:09:26,970 --> 01:09:30,569
** Never glimpse the truth **

1034
01:09:30,570 --> 01:09:33,289
** Then it's far too late **

1035
01:09:33,290 --> 01:09:39,650
** When they pass away-ay-ay... **

1036
01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:45,489
He came up with
Within You Without You.

1037
01:09:45,490 --> 01:09:47,649
Now, Within You Without You

1038
01:09:47,650 --> 01:09:50,209
was not a commercial song,
by any means.

1039
01:09:50,210 --> 01:09:52,169
But it was very interesting.

1040
01:09:52,170 --> 01:09:56,969
He had the way of communicating
music by the Indian system

1041
01:09:56,970 --> 01:10:02,249
of, kind of, a separate language,
like, tiki-tiki-ta-ta-ta,

1042
01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:07,889
tiki-tik, tika-da - the kind of things
that would be the rhythms suggested

1043
01:10:07,890 --> 01:10:12,409
by the tabla player. And you had
to get inside that to find out

1044
01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:16,329
what it was about. So it was like
working out a puzzle with George.

1045
01:10:16,330 --> 01:10:20,489
He had Ravi play at his house once.
And we all went.

1046
01:10:20,490 --> 01:10:24,729
And we're sitting on the floor
and Ravi made the announcement,

1047
01:10:24,730 --> 01:10:27,169
"Please don't smoke
while I'm playing."

1048
01:10:27,170 --> 01:10:29,590
And, uh, anyway, there was
like a crowd of us and

1049
01:10:29,591 --> 01:10:32,009
a crowd of Ravi's friends
just sitting around

1050
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:36,369
and Ravi's playing away and this is
how little we understood at the time,

1051
01:10:36,370 --> 01:10:41,809
that Ravi's pals
are all like going...

1052
01:10:41,810 --> 01:10:43,649
"Aw!

1053
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:45,689
"Aw!"

1054
01:10:45,690 --> 01:10:49,449
Which it sounded like to us they
were saying, "Aw, God, crap!"

1055
01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:54,449
But they were really going,
"Ohhhh. Ohhhh."

1056
01:10:54,450 --> 01:10:56,730
We were like,
"Keep the noise down"!

1057
01:10:59,130 --> 01:11:02,929
** When you've seen beyond yourself **

1058
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:08,090
** Then you may find peace of mind
is waiting there **

1059
01:11:10,650 --> 01:11:13,209
** And the time will come **

1060
01:11:13,210 --> 01:11:15,969
** When you see we're all one **

1061
01:11:15,970 --> 01:11:21,689
** And life flows on
within you and without you. **

1062
01:11:21,690 --> 01:11:28,809
When you get a sort of typical
westernized Englishman coming to you,

1063
01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:32,649
what is the most important thing
you have to teach? Concentration?

1064
01:11:32,650 --> 01:11:38,329
No. Just allowing the mind
to take its natural course.

1065
01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:39,729
Just that.

1066
01:11:39,730 --> 01:11:42,449
Say, it was surprising
someone one day, uh,

1067
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:46,929
started to meditate. Next day
he came for checking and he said,

1068
01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:50,209
"I feel wonderful.
I slept very deep

1069
01:11:50,210 --> 01:11:53,809
"and the whole thing is good, but
tell me what you have taught me."

1070
01:11:55,570 --> 01:11:57,369
I said, "Nothing."

1071
01:11:59,650 --> 01:12:04,529
Because the process of thinking
has not to be learned.

1072
01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:07,249
We are used to think. We know
how to think from birth.

1073
01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:16,089
I got a message from John
and a message from George, saying,

1074
01:12:16,090 --> 01:12:18,329
"We're going to Wales.
We've met this guy.

1075
01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:20,449
"We listened to him.
He's great. Come."

1076
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:23,630
We'd seen this giggly
little Indian guy with

1077
01:12:23,631 --> 01:12:26,809
a beard coming on TV,
and we liked him.

1078
01:12:26,810 --> 01:12:30,129
He was a funny little character,
who was going to save the world.

1079
01:12:30,130 --> 01:12:33,609
So he came around
and we were ripe for saving.

1080
01:12:33,610 --> 01:12:36,769
You know, I wanted
to get into meditation.

1081
01:12:36,770 --> 01:12:38,670
But it's one thing
reading about it and

1082
01:12:38,671 --> 01:12:40,569
the other thing of
how do you do it?

1083
01:12:40,570 --> 01:12:43,809
So I got myself to the point where,
"OK, I need a mantra."

1084
01:12:43,810 --> 01:12:45,210
You know, where do you go?

1085
01:12:45,211 --> 01:12:47,969
You know, do you go to Harrods
and get a mantra?

1086
01:12:47,970 --> 01:12:50,689
But then David Wynn showed me
this picture and said,

1087
01:12:50,690 --> 01:12:53,569
"Oh, he's coming to do a lecture
at the Hilton.

1088
01:12:53,570 --> 01:12:55,529
"He's called Maharishi."

1089
01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:58,489
You give each person a sound,
don't you? Yes.

1090
01:12:58,490 --> 01:13:01,369
Is that the same sound
that you give to each person?

1091
01:13:01,370 --> 01:13:06,249
No. Each person gets different.
How many sounds are there?

1092
01:13:06,250 --> 01:13:10,569
Oh, there are lots of them. I mean,
hundreds or thousands or...?

1093
01:13:10,570 --> 01:13:11,969
We could say thousands.

1094
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:15,329
And when a person has been given
their own particular sound,

1095
01:13:15,330 --> 01:13:18,329
how do they use it?
I mean, when they're meditating,

1096
01:13:18,330 --> 01:13:20,770
how do they use the sound
you've given them.

1097
01:13:20,771 --> 01:13:23,209
Why is that sound
useful to them?

1098
01:13:23,210 --> 01:13:24,529
Ah!

1099
01:13:24,530 --> 01:13:30,290
See, every man has his own
impulse of individuality, yes?

1100
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:34,449
Some man goes by and you feel
attracted towards him.

1101
01:13:34,450 --> 01:13:38,889
Other man goes and you feel
repulsed. Something exchanged

1102
01:13:38,890 --> 01:13:42,209
in the rhythm of the individual.
Like, everyone has his own rhythm.

1103
01:13:42,210 --> 01:13:46,150
Now, the rhythm of a sound
which will resonate

1104
01:13:46,151 --> 01:13:50,090
to the existing rhythm
of the individual.

1105
01:13:51,050 --> 01:13:54,129
And that will be the sound
suitable to him. Got it.

1106
01:13:54,130 --> 01:13:57,529
So that you try to find,
give the person the sound

1107
01:13:57,530 --> 01:14:01,369
that fits in with the rhythm of their
own lives and being? Right.

1108
01:14:01,370 --> 01:14:04,809
We were at Maharishi's
meditation camp

1109
01:14:04,810 --> 01:14:07,249
when the news came through
about Brian.

1110
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:11,569
And it was horrifying,
because we'd experienced loss,

1111
01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:13,329
but with Brian dying,

1112
01:14:13,330 --> 01:14:14,849
it was like one of us dying.

1113
01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:18,329
Uh, and you can kind of come
to terms with your parent dying,

1114
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:21,329
because you know
they'll probably die before you.

1115
01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:23,849
But Brian, it was, "Woah!"

1116
01:14:23,850 --> 01:14:25,950
He was such a big
part of the equation.

1117
01:14:25,951 --> 01:14:28,049
People used to call him
"the fifth Beatle".

1118
01:14:28,050 --> 01:14:31,769
So it was like,
"Oh, my God, now we're on our own."

1119
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:36,009
It was very strange for it
to happen at that precise moment.

1120
01:14:36,010 --> 01:14:39,929
We'd just got involved
with this meditation.

1121
01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:42,929
You know, I mean,
that may not sound like a big deal,

1122
01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:46,929
but it actually was. It was...
It's a big change in your life

1123
01:14:46,930 --> 01:14:53,849
when, you know, when you start
making the journey inward.

1124
01:14:53,850 --> 01:14:57,609
And for Brian to, like,
kick the bucket that particular day,

1125
01:14:57,610 --> 01:14:59,409
it was pretty far out.

1126
01:14:59,410 --> 01:15:05,929
Is the mantra something you use
to get back to the subject

1127
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:09,729
if you find earthly
or irrelevant thoughts intruding?

1128
01:15:09,730 --> 01:15:11,849
Yes, sort of.
Or is it more than that?

1129
01:15:11,850 --> 01:15:14,929
You know, you just sort of sit there
and you let your mind go,

1130
01:15:14,930 --> 01:15:17,849
whatever it's going, no matter
what you're thinking about.

1131
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:22,769
Just let it go. Then you just
introduce the mantra or vibration

1132
01:15:22,770 --> 01:15:24,729
just to take over from a thought.

1133
01:15:24,730 --> 01:15:26,849
You don't will it
or use your willpower.

1134
01:15:26,850 --> 01:15:28,969
If you find yourself thinking

1135
01:15:28,970 --> 01:15:32,849
then the moment you realise you've
been thinking about things again,

1136
01:15:32,850 --> 01:15:37,129
then you replace that thought
with the mantra again.

1137
01:15:37,130 --> 01:15:39,129
Sometimes you can go on

1138
01:15:39,130 --> 01:15:42,489
and you find that you haven't
even had the mantra in your mind.

1139
01:15:42,490 --> 01:15:45,969
There's just been a complete blank.
But when you reach that point,

1140
01:15:45,970 --> 01:15:48,849
because it's beyond all experience,

1141
01:15:48,850 --> 01:15:52,729
then it's down there
and that level is timeless,

1142
01:15:52,730 --> 01:15:56,289
spaceless, so you can be there
for five minutes and come out.

1143
01:15:56,290 --> 01:15:58,489
You don't know
how long you've been there.

1144
01:15:58,490 --> 01:16:03,169
Then the aim, as opposed to sitting
and thinking, or anything

1145
01:16:03,170 --> 01:16:05,729
is to reach a part of the sense
where you have no thoughts?

1146
01:16:10,730 --> 01:16:15,769
** Without going out of my door **

1147
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:20,529
** I can know all things on Earth **

1148
01:16:20,530 --> 01:16:25,409
** Without looking out of my window **

1149
01:16:25,410 --> 01:16:30,969
** I could know the ways of heaven **

1150
01:16:30,970 --> 01:16:35,609
** The farther one travels **

1151
01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:39,650
** The less one knows **

1152
01:16:41,290 --> 01:16:46,610
** The less one really knows. **

1153
01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:57,169
The word, for instance,
the word "God", I mean has...

1154
01:16:57,170 --> 01:17:00,329
Does it mean something different
to you now

1155
01:17:00,330 --> 01:17:02,089
than it did before the Maharishi?

1156
01:17:02,090 --> 01:17:05,009
It could be.
It means all sorts of things to me.

1157
01:17:05,010 --> 01:17:09,369
It means... I mean, the first
concept of a man in the sky,

1158
01:17:09,370 --> 01:17:11,409
well, I kicked that one
a few years ago.

1159
01:17:11,410 --> 01:17:12,929
But I've got back to that now,

1160
01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:15,449
because it's a man in the sky
as well, if you like.

1161
01:17:15,450 --> 01:17:18,649
It's just everything.
The whole thing that...

1162
01:17:18,650 --> 01:17:19,850
It's just everything.

1163
01:17:19,851 --> 01:17:23,969
Every aspect of creation
is part of God.

1164
01:17:23,970 --> 01:17:27,809
I think that perhaps we should
try and get it a little clearer

1165
01:17:27,810 --> 01:17:29,449
what we're talking about.

1166
01:17:29,450 --> 01:17:33,329
If we're talking about
a mystical religious belief,

1167
01:17:33,330 --> 01:17:34,929
which I think that George is,

1168
01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:37,649
but are we really
talking about mysticism

1169
01:17:37,650 --> 01:17:40,649
or are we talking about a technique
of improving yourself

1170
01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:42,510
which is totally
scientific and rational?

1171
01:17:42,511 --> 01:17:44,369
You can take it either way.

1172
01:17:44,370 --> 01:17:46,369
You can take it either way.

1173
01:17:46,370 --> 01:17:48,729
This is because
it is a perceptual method.

1174
01:17:48,730 --> 01:17:51,889
If a man has got a great conceptual
apparatus and he meditates,

1175
01:17:51,890 --> 01:17:54,290
he will begin to
understand the nature of a

1176
01:17:54,291 --> 01:17:56,689
conceptual apparatus and
if he's wrong about it,

1177
01:17:56,690 --> 01:17:59,449
he'll begin to understand
where he's wrong about it.

1178
01:17:59,450 --> 01:18:02,250
If he's got no
conceptual apparatus, he

1179
01:18:02,251 --> 01:18:05,049
simply perceives an
abstract experience.

1180
01:18:05,050 --> 01:18:07,849
Now, when he's had
an abstract experience,

1181
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:10,929
he may wish then to give
himself explanations of it.

1182
01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:14,329
But it's primarily
a perceptual method.

1183
01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:17,089
And so what this offers
is an experience? Yes.

1184
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:19,350
Why should this abstract
experience be any

1185
01:18:19,351 --> 01:18:21,609
more valuable than any
other experiences?

1186
01:18:21,610 --> 01:18:23,649
George talks about
a bliss experience.

1187
01:18:23,650 --> 01:18:26,889
You can have a bliss experience
by drinking a bottle of whisky.

1188
01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:33,169
Speak for yourself.
Now, why is a bliss experience...

1189
01:18:33,170 --> 01:18:35,929
You'd have a non-bliss experience
the next morning.

1190
01:18:35,930 --> 01:18:38,330
..more valuable than
anybody else's experience?

1191
01:18:38,331 --> 01:18:40,729
Or are we talking
about a universe

1192
01:18:40,730 --> 01:18:42,969
which has some hidden laws

1193
01:18:42,970 --> 01:18:47,169
and a hidden creator, who manifests
himself only to people like

1194
01:18:47,170 --> 01:18:49,330
Mr Harrison and the Maharishi,
when they get into

1195
01:18:49,331 --> 01:18:51,489
a state of trance?
That's what I want to know.

1196
01:18:51,490 --> 01:18:52,570
Well, let's face it.

1197
01:18:52,571 --> 01:18:55,529
These laws that you say -
hidden laws - they are hidden.

1198
01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:58,329
But they're only hidden
by our own ignorance.

1199
01:18:58,330 --> 01:19:02,169
And the word mysticism
is just being arrived at

1200
01:19:02,170 --> 01:19:03,849
through people's ignorance.

1201
01:19:03,850 --> 01:19:05,729
There's nothing mystical about it,

1202
01:19:05,730 --> 01:19:08,010
only that you're ignorant
of what that entails.

1203
01:19:10,730 --> 01:19:12,250
** Arrive without travelling **

1204
01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:19,809
** See all without looking **

1205
01:19:19,810 --> 01:19:22,050
** Do all without doing. **

1206
01:19:29,130 --> 01:19:33,089
He wanted to be a spiritual being,
more than anything,

1207
01:19:33,090 --> 01:19:36,130
but he couldn't, because
he had to deal with this life.

1208
01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:40,689
So he could be loving, because
that was really his true nature,

1209
01:19:40,690 --> 01:19:44,009
and sweet and kind and gentle.

1210
01:19:44,010 --> 01:19:47,449
But then the anger came
from the frustration

1211
01:19:47,450 --> 01:19:49,809
that he had...

1212
01:19:49,810 --> 01:19:53,209
when you glimpse something
that you understand,

1213
01:19:53,210 --> 01:19:55,809
but you can't be there,

1214
01:19:55,810 --> 01:19:59,449
because there's something earthly
holding you back.

1215
01:19:59,450 --> 01:20:01,969
And he was very aware of that.

1216
01:20:01,970 --> 01:20:07,450
What were the earthly things
that pulled on him the most?

1217
01:20:09,930 --> 01:20:13,209
Well, the other three Beatles

1218
01:20:13,210 --> 01:20:17,609
and what they were creating
and were continuing to create...

1219
01:20:17,610 --> 01:20:21,209
this huge empire, Apple.

1220
01:20:21,210 --> 01:20:24,929
I think he felt that he'd found

1221
01:20:24,930 --> 01:20:29,409
something that he totally understood
and wanted to just be there.

1222
01:20:29,410 --> 01:20:31,929
Be in it. He became

1223
01:20:31,930 --> 01:20:35,769
totally absorbed with meditation.

1224
01:20:35,770 --> 01:20:38,729
"Dear Mum,
Thanks for your letter last week

1225
01:20:38,730 --> 01:20:41,449
"and if it's any comfort to you,
don't worry about me

1226
01:20:41,450 --> 01:20:43,490
"or don't think
anything negative about

1227
01:20:43,491 --> 01:20:45,529
Maharishi, because
he's not phoney.

1228
01:20:45,530 --> 01:20:48,030
"It's only the bullshit that's
written about him that's phoney.

1229
01:20:48,031 --> 01:20:50,529
He's not taking
any of our money.

1230
01:20:50,530 --> 01:20:53,049
"All he's doing is teaching us
how to contact God

1231
01:20:53,050 --> 01:20:55,569
"and as God isn't divided
into different sects,

1232
01:20:55,570 --> 01:20:57,809
"as religious leaders here make out,

1233
01:20:57,810 --> 01:21:00,130
"then it doesn't affect
my dedication to Sacred

1234
01:21:00,131 --> 01:21:02,449
Heart in any way.
It only strengthens it.

1235
01:21:02,450 --> 01:21:04,689
"But we will help to spread
his teachings,

1236
01:21:04,690 --> 01:21:07,569
"so that everybody can attain this
and new generations

1237
01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:10,129
"will grow up and have this
right from the start,

1238
01:21:10,130 --> 01:21:13,369
"instead of going through the
ignorance that seems to dominate

1239
01:21:13,370 --> 01:21:16,210
"everything and everyone
at the moment, causing

1240
01:21:16,211 --> 01:21:19,049
them to feel that it's
mysticism or black magic.

1241
01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:22,369
"Don't think that I've gone
off my rocker, because I haven't.

1242
01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:25,289
"I now love you and everybody
else much more than ever.

1243
01:21:25,290 --> 01:21:26,810
"So it's not that bad, is it?"

1244
01:21:32,410 --> 01:21:36,210
** Creme tangerine and Montlimar **

1245
01:21:41,050 --> 01:21:44,090
** A ginger sling
with a pineapple heart **

1246
01:21:48,410 --> 01:21:50,369
** A coffee dessert, yes **

1247
01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:52,770
** You know it's good news **

1248
01:21:55,370 --> 01:21:58,409
** But you'll have to have them
all pulled out **

1249
01:21:58,410 --> 01:22:03,009
** After the Savoy truffle. **

1250
01:22:03,010 --> 01:22:07,969
Whenever we were together,
in the public,

1251
01:22:07,970 --> 01:22:12,049
say, for instance, I would turn...
I mean, for all of the amount

1252
01:22:12,050 --> 01:22:15,969
of weight that I thought I carried,
would turn to nobody.

1253
01:22:15,970 --> 01:22:19,209
If we were going into a restaurant
or a club,

1254
01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:24,889
the way people would behave
around their aura, you know.

1255
01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:28,769
I mean, by "their", I mean,
the Beatles, was beyond belief.

1256
01:22:28,770 --> 01:22:31,769
George had two sides
to his character.

1257
01:22:31,770 --> 01:22:36,289
I mean, you know, I'm his mate, so I
can't tell too much, but he was a guy.

1258
01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:40,649
You know what I'm talking about.

1259
01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:44,489
He was a red-blooded man, you know.

1260
01:22:44,490 --> 01:22:47,490
So he would like, you know,
the things guys like.

1261
01:23:11,050 --> 01:23:14,049
** But you'll have to have them
all pulled out **

1262
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:18,169
** After the Savoy truffle. **

1263
01:23:18,170 --> 01:23:24,929
I distinctly remember
putting the saxes on and I got

1264
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:31,169
what I considered to be a good
sax sound. They blended well.

1265
01:23:31,170 --> 01:23:35,249
It was very nice and George
comes up, after teaching the parts,

1266
01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:37,489
and says "Yeah, they sound great.

1267
01:23:37,490 --> 01:23:38,849
"Now distort them."

1268
01:23:38,850 --> 01:23:42,689
It was, "What?!" "Yeah, they're
too clean, they're too nice.

1269
01:23:42,690 --> 01:23:44,889
"Distort them." "OK."

1270
01:23:44,890 --> 01:23:47,889
So I had to, one way or another,
mess them up.

1271
01:23:47,890 --> 01:23:51,929
When we were mixing it, George
Martin walks into the control room.

1272
01:23:51,930 --> 01:23:54,889
He says, "Uh isn't it a bit bright?

1273
01:23:54,890 --> 01:23:57,889
"Isn't it a bit toppy?"
And George turned around to him

1274
01:23:57,890 --> 01:24:00,369
and said, "Yeah. And I like it."

1275
01:24:00,370 --> 01:24:02,929
And he just turns around
and we carry on working.

1276
01:24:02,930 --> 01:24:05,610
And George Martin just
upped and walked out, went

1277
01:24:05,611 --> 01:24:08,289
to a studio where they
were doing other work.

1278
01:24:08,290 --> 01:24:10,769
They were like the kids
that just left home,

1279
01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:13,410
whose parents aren't looking
after them anymore.

1280
01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:29,689
A guy called Joe Massot
was making this film

1281
01:24:29,690 --> 01:24:32,009
and he'd asked George
to do the soundtrack.

1282
01:24:32,010 --> 01:24:33,250
It was really just, um.

1283
01:24:33,251 --> 01:24:34,809
I showed up, you know.

1284
01:24:34,810 --> 01:24:37,729
George told me he'd like me
to play on something

1285
01:24:37,730 --> 01:24:39,369
and we'd write as we went along.

1286
01:24:39,370 --> 01:24:44,369
We put down this thing and George
then put backwards guitar on top

1287
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:47,449
and was, you know, it was very
experimental and it was good fun.

1288
01:24:47,450 --> 01:24:51,850
"Wonderwall" score
by George Harrison

1289
01:25:01,810 --> 01:25:05,169
I think that, in England, there was
a sort of cultural revolution

1290
01:25:05,170 --> 01:25:06,609
in the '60s

1291
01:25:06,610 --> 01:25:09,049
which touched on
every branch of life.

1292
01:25:09,050 --> 01:25:10,449
Wake up!

1293
01:25:13,290 --> 01:25:16,049
You can thank your lucky stars
you're working with me.

1294
01:25:17,650 --> 01:25:19,008
And a smile now. Come on.

1295
01:25:20,131 --> 01:25:24,169
Smile... Smile!

1296
01:25:29,370 --> 01:25:30,929
God.

1297
01:25:30,930 --> 01:25:34,769
'That's why Antonioni
decided to do Blow-Up in England

1298
01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:38,690
because of it being the spot
where everything was going on.

1299
01:25:39,730 --> 01:25:41,970
What do they call you in bed?

1300
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:45,330
I only go to bed to sleep.

1301
01:25:54,370 --> 01:25:56,529
'I remember
the mystery that was around'

1302
01:25:56,530 --> 01:25:58,169
George Harrison.

1303
01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:01,289
I wouldn't have asked him a question.

1304
01:26:01,290 --> 01:26:05,769
I wouldn't have dared,
because of feeling

1305
01:26:05,770 --> 01:26:09,649
he was onto something else.

1306
01:26:09,650 --> 01:26:11,889
There was a lot of energy around.

1307
01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:14,129
Everybody was inspiring
everybody else.

1308
01:26:14,130 --> 01:26:18,330
We'd go to David Hockney's studio
and watch him paint.

1309
01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:22,969
"Oh, David, can I just
have that little sketch?"

1310
01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:24,689
And he'd say, "No, you can't."

1311
01:26:24,690 --> 01:26:27,969
And then we'd go off and he'd say,

1312
01:26:27,970 --> 01:26:29,649
"Oh, let's go and see the Stones.

1313
01:26:29,650 --> 01:26:31,409
"They're recording at so and so."

1314
01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:32,610
Then off we'd go there.

1315
01:26:32,611 --> 01:26:35,009
So we could just do anything.
Nobody minded.

1316
01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:37,329
Everybody was flying around
like that.

1317
01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:41,129
It was all so possible and so easy
and we didn't think twice about it.

1318
01:26:56,930 --> 01:27:00,649
I was in New York
and some people came and said,

1319
01:27:00,650 --> 01:27:02,209
"Aren't you coming to London?

1320
01:27:02,210 --> 01:27:06,609
"London is swinging. London's great!"
And I think, "Well, I don't know."

1321
01:27:06,610 --> 01:27:09,049
I was so New York, you know,

1322
01:27:09,050 --> 01:27:11,209
I didn't want to, sort of,
leave New York.

1323
01:27:11,210 --> 01:27:14,209
But then things happened and I went
to London and it was great.

1324
01:27:14,210 --> 01:27:17,969
There was a, kind of,
feeling of freedom

1325
01:27:17,970 --> 01:27:22,289
and I felt that it's almost like
the air was, kind of,

1326
01:27:22,290 --> 01:27:27,369
had an intelligent smell about it,
yeah?

1327
01:27:27,370 --> 01:27:33,809
George and John and I
made...Number Nine.

1328
01:27:33,810 --> 01:27:37,769
And that was actually George
who, sort of, instigated it.

1329
01:27:37,770 --> 01:27:39,650
He said,
"Let's do it, let's do it".

1330
01:27:39,651 --> 01:27:42,089
And he didn't have that feeling of,

1331
01:27:42,090 --> 01:27:46,049
"Well, Yoko is a separate thing
and, you know, we shouldn't

1332
01:27:46,050 --> 01:27:49,529
"be nice to her
or anything like that."

1333
01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:50,690
He was just very nice.

1334
01:27:50,691 --> 01:27:55,329
I thought it's very interesting

1335
01:27:55,330 --> 01:27:57,609
to know about what the Beatles do,

1336
01:27:57,610 --> 01:28:00,689
because, you know, I come from
an avant-garde background

1337
01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:04,569
and all that and here
they were making music in a way

1338
01:28:04,570 --> 01:28:07,849
that was very different
from what we used to do.

1339
01:28:07,850 --> 01:28:09,769
It had power of its own.

1340
01:28:09,770 --> 01:28:12,170
And I thought,
"Well, this is what you can do."

1341
01:28:29,090 --> 01:28:32,449
George had two sides,
like we all do, you know.

1342
01:28:32,450 --> 01:28:36,129
Sometimes he was very nice
and sometimes he was

1343
01:28:36,130 --> 01:28:38,209
just being too honest or something...

1344
01:28:38,210 --> 01:28:40,129
frank about things, yeah?

1345
01:28:40,130 --> 01:28:44,009
He would say something right away,
before he's thinking.

1346
01:28:44,010 --> 01:28:46,769
So he didn't, uh, mince words.

1347
01:28:46,770 --> 01:28:50,889
And sometimes it's, you know, "Oh,
dear, you think that?" or something.

1348
01:28:50,890 --> 01:28:53,089
He'd just hurt me, maybe.

1349
01:28:53,090 --> 01:28:56,769
But John said,
"Oh, that's George, you know."

1350
01:28:56,770 --> 01:28:59,049
And I got used to that, too.
It was very nice.

1351
01:28:59,050 --> 01:29:03,889
I remember a particular occasion,
when I'd written Hey, Jude,

1352
01:29:03,890 --> 01:29:05,209
and I brought it in.

1353
01:29:05,210 --> 01:29:07,729
And I'd go,
** Hey, Jude, don't make it bad. **

1354
01:29:07,730 --> 01:29:09,850
And George was playing,
** Hey, Jude... **

1355
01:29:10,770 --> 01:29:11,970
** Don't make it bad... **

1356
01:29:13,570 --> 01:29:16,889
And I had to sort of say, "No,
George, look, I really don't think

1357
01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:21,329
"you can put a guitar riff
after every line, you know."

1358
01:29:21,330 --> 01:29:24,889
And it was like a real,
"Oh, OK, then."

1359
01:29:24,890 --> 01:29:28,209
But, you know,
I knew he couldn't do it.

1360
01:29:28,210 --> 01:29:30,209
Maybe he knew he couldn't do it.

1361
01:29:30,210 --> 01:29:32,930
But it created tension, you know.
And it was like...

1362
01:29:34,250 --> 01:29:37,289
Then this feeling that I was
just dictating things

1363
01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:38,730
started to grow, you know.

1364
01:29:38,731 --> 01:29:42,049
And I was dictating things, cos
I knew how I wanted my song to go.

1365
01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:45,009
Similarly, John would say
how he wanted his song to go

1366
01:29:45,010 --> 01:29:47,249
or George would say
how he wanted his to go.

1367
01:29:47,250 --> 01:29:52,609
The intensity that they had together
must have had its limits

1368
01:29:52,610 --> 01:29:54,849
and it had to explode at some point.

1369
01:29:54,850 --> 01:30:00,129
Now they were out in London,
travelling a lot and getting...

1370
01:30:00,130 --> 01:30:04,009
having different people
influence them.

1371
01:30:04,010 --> 01:30:06,609
So coming back together,
it didn't work as well.

1372
01:30:06,610 --> 01:30:10,249
I quit the band in '67,
on the White Album,

1373
01:30:10,250 --> 01:30:15,329
because...I was just in,

1374
01:30:15,330 --> 01:30:18,529
I don't know, in some emotional state

1375
01:30:18,530 --> 01:30:21,729
where I honestly felt
that I wasn't playing well.

1376
01:30:21,730 --> 01:30:26,009
For some reason,
I felt I just wasn't playing good.

1377
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:28,770
And those three were really close.

1378
01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:33,809
And I thought, "Well, I've got
to deal with this, anyway."

1379
01:30:33,810 --> 01:30:37,449
So, I went over to John's - he was
staying with Yoko in my apartment...

1380
01:30:37,450 --> 01:30:40,169
and I said, "Look, man," I said,

1381
01:30:40,170 --> 01:30:44,249
"You know, I have to say, look,
I feel I'm not playing really good.

1382
01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:46,009
"And you three are really close."

1383
01:30:46,010 --> 01:30:48,770
And he goes,
"I thought it was you three."

1384
01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:53,809
And I went to Paul's and knocked on
his door and I said the same thing.

1385
01:30:53,810 --> 01:30:56,689
I said, "You know,
you three are really close."

1386
01:30:56,690 --> 01:30:58,929
"I thought it was you three!"

1387
01:30:58,930 --> 01:31:01,409
And I thought,
"Oh, shit, I'm goin' on holiday.

1388
01:31:01,410 --> 01:31:03,689
I'm off. And I went to Sardinia.

1389
01:31:03,690 --> 01:31:06,489
When I got back,
it was, "Oh, come on back.

1390
01:31:06,490 --> 01:31:08,249
"We love you", blah, blah, blah."

1391
01:31:08,250 --> 01:31:12,809
George had decorated the whole studio
with flowers, you know.

1392
01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:17,290
And, you know, that was
a beautiful moment for me.

1393
01:31:33,850 --> 01:31:37,089
** I look at you all **

1394
01:31:37,090 --> 01:31:42,289
** See the love there
that's sleeping **

1395
01:31:42,290 --> 01:31:47,850
** While my guitar gently weeps **

1396
01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:53,769
** I look at the floor **

1397
01:31:53,770 --> 01:31:58,250
** And I see it needs sweeping **

1398
01:31:59,690 --> 01:32:01,969
** Still my guitar **

1399
01:32:01,970 --> 01:32:04,650
** Gently weeps **

1400
01:32:08,250 --> 01:32:11,689
** I don't know why **

1401
01:32:11,690 --> 01:32:14,890
** Nobody told you **

1402
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** How to unfold your love. **

1403
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It was crap, you know.

1404
01:32:26,050 --> 01:32:28,809
We were trying to do the song
and it wasn't happening.

1405
01:32:28,810 --> 01:32:31,369
You know,
they weren't taking it serious.

1406
01:32:31,370 --> 01:32:34,529
And, uh, I don't think they
were even all playing on it.

1407
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:37,729
And so, I went home that night
and I just thought,

1408
01:32:37,730 --> 01:32:40,809
"Well, that's a shame, cos I
know this song is pretty good."

1409
01:32:40,810 --> 01:32:44,369
And then the next day,
I was driving into London with Eric,

1410
01:32:44,370 --> 01:32:47,409
and I said,
"Hey, what're you doing?

1411
01:32:47,410 --> 01:32:49,369
"Why don't you come to the studio

1412
01:32:49,370 --> 01:32:52,049
"and play on this song for me?"

1413
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:55,409
And he says,
"Oh, no, I can't do that.

1414
01:32:55,410 --> 01:32:57,889
"Nobody's ever played
on a Beatles' record.

1415
01:32:57,890 --> 01:33:00,409
"And the others wouldn't like that."

1416
01:33:00,410 --> 01:33:03,009
And I said,
"Well, you know, look, it's my song

1417
01:33:03,010 --> 01:33:04,649
"and I'd like you to play on it."

1418
01:33:04,650 --> 01:33:08,009
We'd all learned
to grow together and, you know,

1419
01:33:08,010 --> 01:33:11,769
some days one'd grow a little taller,
and the next day

1420
01:33:11,770 --> 01:33:15,089
someone else'd grow a little taller,
you know? It's how we were.

1421
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:20,729
It had been a few years since
I'd seen them and they had changed.

1422
01:33:20,730 --> 01:33:22,049
And this particular song

1423
01:33:22,050 --> 01:33:25,350
was a strong view of...
It was coming very

1424
01:33:25,351 --> 01:33:28,649
much from where George
had found himself,

1425
01:33:28,650 --> 01:33:32,529
as a result of becoming involved
with, um, mysticism.

1426
01:33:32,530 --> 01:33:36,969
And seeing John and George
and Paul sing together,

1427
01:33:36,970 --> 01:33:39,550
when they were doing
harmonies and things,

1428
01:33:39,551 --> 01:33:42,129
and Paul playing, I
mean, it was fantastic.

1429
01:33:42,130 --> 01:33:44,890
** I look at you all **

1430
01:33:51,170 --> 01:33:53,569
** Still my guitar **

1431
01:33:53,570 --> 01:33:56,170
** Gently weeps. **

1432
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:17,000
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