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E on
<i>keeping up with the kardashians</i>

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<i> The final curtain...</i>

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Kim:
If I was mature,

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I would have wanted
the annulment, too.

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I wish I was only married once.

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My love for makeup started

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With my insecurity
with my lips.

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One of my first kisses, and
a guy said to me, "oh, my god.

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You have such small lips."

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-Oh.
-Aw.
-From then on,

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I felt... Unkissable.

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Andy:
Do you think you would have

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Split up from your ex
were it not for the transition?

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I think so.

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Have you forgiven caitlyn
for how she treated you

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After the divorce?

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I think so. I think if I didn't,

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Or I don't work
through those feelings,

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It's just gonna hurt me

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More than...
Than it would have hurt caitlyn.

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Kendall and kylie, I have
to imagine that going through

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Something so dramatic
just without cameras

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Would be very confusing
and emotional,

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But what was it like
going through it

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-In the public eye?
-Kylie: I want nothing more

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Than my dad to live out
her true self, genuinely,

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But, I mean,
it's-it's a transition, I think.

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We were, you know,
a little younger, and...

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-We were mourning that...
-It is a bit of a loss, too.

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-Yeah. Person.
-You know, I have such...
I still

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Have such a good relationship
with my dad-- I love my dad--

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But growing up, we were
super close with my dad, so,

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To mourn that person

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Was... Hard.

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Kendall:
We were big daddy's girls, so

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Coming out of that,
and kind of...

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That transition was definitely
hard for a moment, but...

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Kylie:
Just to say, like,
"hey, I'm still here.

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"I'm still the same soul,

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But I don't want
to be that person anymore,"

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-Was, I think, what was hard
to understand.
-Kendall: Yeah.

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But now that it's happened,
and we're here, you know,

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I think it was a lot easier
than I thought it was gonna be.

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Yeah, and like she said,
I think we both just wanted

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-And want her to be happy.
-Andy: Right.

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Kris, I have to as... I mean,
as a wife, it's challenging,

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As a mom, it's challenging,
and then...

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All of this.

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How did you get through
that period of your life?

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When you have kids
and-and, you know,

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These girls being so young,
and you don't want to

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Share your feelings
with everybody

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Because you're so confused,
so, you know,

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You just go take a shower
and cry in the shower

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And have a martini, and you
know, start over the next day.

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So... But I learned a lot
along the way.

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I think I was so nalve
and uneducated in...

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In this whole, you know,
area, and

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I realized
that I was not considering

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What caitlyn was really feeling
at the time,

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Which was that she wanted to be
who she is now

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Since the time
she was four years old.

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And that w... Just wasn't
communicated to me.

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So at the end of the day,
all you can ever want

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For somebody, like everyone
has said here today,

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Is just to find
their true happiness, you know?

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What terms are you on today?

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You know, we're okay.
When I...

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When I see caitlyn,
or talk to caitlyn,

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It's nice and friendly.

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And, um, just recently, caitlyn
asked me for some advice...

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-Andy: Right.
-...And I was happy
to get on the phone

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And share some thoughts,
and we actually

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Talk to caitlyn's friend,
sophia, all the time.

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I'm in contact with her
by text or phone.

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-Andy: Wow.
-Or she asks me for advice or...

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So I think things are
really good, and I think

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That I try to keep it that way
for my kids.

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I think it's really healthy.

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You know, it's part
of the healing process to try to

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Let the relationship
build itself back.

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Well, you all set
a great example

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Of how a family can
come together

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And-and support someone
and support you.

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And, um, it would...
It's really inspiring to watch.

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Well, we could--
I don't think we could do it

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Without each other.

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Andy:
All right, I want to move on.

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Kourtney, your work ethic
has been a constant source

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-Of conflict between
your sisters.
-It has.

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They've questioned you about
what your passion is repeatedly.

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Uh, what is your passion?

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I think my passion...

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I think it's not, like,
selling product,

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But I think
the lifestyle that I live

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Is something
that I am passionate about,

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And I feel like sharing that
with people.

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And I'm so grateful that, like,

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I get to work
with my friends and...

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You know, even I've had,
like, opportunities

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To work with my sisters on it,
and it's just...

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I don't know. Like, I feel
in a happy place with my work.

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Right.
So your passion has changed?

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-Yeah.
-Were you unduly hard on her
about this?

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I think so, honestly.

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I think that, um...
I really think that...

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Well, it was almost like
a competition, you know,

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-No.
-...Between, like, the race.

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Like, who's gonna do what,
and what's your thing,

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-And what's...
-I just think that...

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Khloe:
I don't necessarily find
the competition aspect

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-To be true.
-Kourtney: No,
not the competition

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Between the brands,
but, like, almost like,

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"well, what are you doing?
What are you gonna do?"

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Khloe:
But-- well, I think
that's just us encouraging...

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Kim:
I feel like
we motivate each other

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-And encourage each other.
-Kourtney: Yeah.

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Like, so that we'll always
be talking about that,

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And I think what we maybe
didn't realize

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Or should, like, have the,
like, woke moment about

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Is just that, like,
she doesn't have to have

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The same, you know, passion
or drive for, like,

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She said, selling product or
the things that we're into,

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Where we would encourage each
other, 'cause that's what we do.

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Kim, do you still
stand by your statement

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That kourtney, kendall and kylie
don't have the same work ethic

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-As you?
-I said that about everyone?

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-Andy: You did.
-(khloe laughs)

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Oh, you need
to take that one back.

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Yeah. No, I don't stand
behind that, and I think that

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Where I have grown is that
it wouldn't matter

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What level of work ethic any
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'cause it's their life.

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But, like, I don't... I don't...
I probably don't

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Stand by half the (bleep)
that I said a long time ago.

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Andy:
Kourtney, you often say

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Your main job and
your main focus is parenting.

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Do you think your siblings
learned how to parent from you?

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I don't know. Khloe and I do
things pretty differently.

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-(laughs)
-my kids--

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If they're having a hard day,

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I'll let them not go to school
and stay...

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Have a day with me.
Like, I'm just...

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-Wow.
-I'm a little bit more...

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-Lenient.
-Lenient, um, yeah.

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Kim and khloe, does kourtney use
the parent card as an excuse?

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Like, to get out of work
and stuff?

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Yeah, but how she, like...

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Her kids are number one for her,

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So, if her kids are having
a hard day, she'll just say,

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You know, "I'm gonna spend
the day with the kids."

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So I don't know if
that's necessarily a bad thing.

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But that's what kids are for,

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-Is to use them as excuses.
-Kourtney: Mm-hmm.

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To lay in bed all day
and watch movies

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With them if they're having
a hard time.

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Andy:
Okay, moving on.

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We couldn't book art vandelay,
but we got someone even better,

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So I'm gonna go ahead
and let the lord be with you

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By welcoming the prank master
himself, scott disick.

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-(applause and cheering)
-where is he? Oh, he's upstairs.

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-Khloe: Welcome!
-I was taking a nap.

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-Sorry, guys.
-Andy: Excellent.

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-Hi. Good to see you.
-Great to see you.

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-Good to see you.
-How are you?

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-Come on in.
-Hi, honey.

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-No cane, no eye patch?
-Scott: Girl.

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-In the back.
-Scott, did you have
a favorite prank

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That you played on the show?

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Yeah, I think all of them
against kris were good.

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Andy:
Yeah. Kris, did you have
a favorite prank?

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Uh, the art vandelay one
was epic.

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-Khloe: That was a good one.
-Over todd kraines?

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Scott: Oh, right.
Todd kraines was good.

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Oh, todd kraines.

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This is kraines.

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-Kris (on phone): Hello?
-It's me, todd kraines.

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Kris:
Okay.

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Scott:
Hi.

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-There's been so many. Yeah.
-Andy: There's been a lot.

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The beginning of the series,

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You and khloe didn't have
the greatest relationship.

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-You slapped him, I think. Yeah.
-Yes.

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And I had to go
to anger management over it.

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I don't even think
he necessarily did anything

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As to why I didn't like him.

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-No.
-I just... I was living

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-With kourt and...
-There was reasons.

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I can't really remember,
but yeah. Scott was

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-Also young and doing...
-I was pretty irresponsible.

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-Kourtney: Thought
he was a sociopath.
-Yeah, I...

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-You know.
-Scott: Still might be.

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Little things, but...
I think it just

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Shows how much, though,
scott and I...

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How close we really are,
because I treat him

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Just like I would my brother.

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I can slap him
and want to kill him,

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But then, I love him
and I want the best for him,

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And he really is a great guy.

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Andy:
Hiyarealya said,

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"please ask scott what's up with
him dating much younger women."

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Everybody gets this wrong,

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That I look for young girls.

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-Andy: Okay.
-I don't go out looking
for young girls.

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-Andy: Okay.
-They happen
to be attracted to me,

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'cause I look young.

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-You tell 'em, scott.
-That's what I'm telling myself.

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Andy:
I lot of people felt
really connected to you

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When you shown your... Showed
your vulnerability relating

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To your, uh, struggle
with sobriety.

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How did you feel
about sharing that on the show?

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(laughing):
I mean, it wasn't...

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It wasn't anything I could hide,
you know what I mean?

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So, eventually, I realized

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That this obviously is not
giving me what I want,

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And a lot of the things that
hurt me in my life were from

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Drinking and these things
that I can't really take back.

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But, you know,
now I'm just trying

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To be the best guy I can be
and a good dad

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And things like that
and make up for lost time.

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But I do regret the person

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That I was for a long time
to kourtney and

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Just everybody.
I wasn't the best guy.

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You mention this season

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That the kids have started
asking to see the show.

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Are you struggles
with substance abuse something

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That you're afraid to show them?
How do you feel about them

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Ultimately wind up...
Winding up seeing that?

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You mention this season
that the kids have started

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Asking to see the show.

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Are you struggles
with substance abuse something

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That you're afraid to show them?

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How do you feel about them
ultimately wind up...

234
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Winding up seeing that?

235
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Scott:
I'm gonna explain
to them everything.

236
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I've talked to mason
a little bit

237
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About things, but not deeply.

238
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I don't think any of them
have any idea of, like,

239
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The struggles that I've had,
but I plan to tell them

240
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Because I didn't have that
growing up.

241
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And I want to make sure
they hear everything,

242
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You know, and tell them, like,
"you can go this route,

243
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"but I promise you it's not
gonna end up anywhere good.

244
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I did it, and you know..."

245
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So I have that
to give to them.

246
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Gina from ithaca, new york
wants to know

247
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If you think you would have
a shot with kourtney if you had

248
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Maintained your sobriety.

249
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Yes.

250
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-Do you?
-Yeah, probably.

251
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Andy:
Um...

252
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(laughing):
Sorry. This is just so deep.

253
00:11:01,569 --> 00:11:03,495
-It is deep.
-This is really deep.

254
00:11:03,571 --> 00:11:05,613
-I came out here to get it deep.
-Yeah.
-Andy: I know.

255
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It's true.

256
00:11:07,501 --> 00:11:09,158
Casey from los angeles wants
to know,

257
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"kourtney and scott,
super quick.

258
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Have you slept together
in the last five years?"

259
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-Kris: Oh, my gosh.
-"do you seriously expect
everyone

260
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"to believe
that after your breakup,

261
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You traveled together all that
time without ever hooking up?"

262
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People cannot believe that,
but we have not.

263
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For real, you have not?

264
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For real.

265
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-How annoying.
-(laughter)

266
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So how would you describe
your relationship today?

267
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I feel like we're great friends

268
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And co-parents.

269
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Yeah, I mean, we're family,
you know?

270
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-I think we always will be.
-Kourtney: Yeah, family.

271
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You dealt with scott's
substance abuse issues,

272
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Um, and infidelity.

273
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What was a bigger
deal-breaker for you?

274
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I mean, the infidelity was,
like...

275
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I only knew about it at the end,
and then...

276
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So I think
the substance abuse was the...

277
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The deal-breaker.

278
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At the time, do you think

279
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That drinking was leading you
into bad behavior?

280
00:12:07,585 --> 00:12:12,513
Yeah. I don't want to make
any excuses for my behavior.

281
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I definitely wouldn't have done
these things sober.

282
00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:20,405
But it was all wrong,
and I just thought

283
00:12:20,482 --> 00:12:22,315
It was normal, to be honest,
for some time.

284
00:12:22,391 --> 00:12:24,734
Is a monogamous relationship
what you aspire to?

285
00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:26,652
-Yeah.
-Andy: Yeah.

286
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Now, but then,
I was somewhat young,

287
00:12:29,774 --> 00:12:33,576
And I didn't really know
the difference, and...

288
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How old were you when you
started filming with us? 23?

289
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-Kylie's age.
-Scott: Yeah. Yeah.
-Andy: It seems like

290
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You get really upset
when kourtney is linked

291
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To other guys.

292
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Me?

293
00:12:43,788 --> 00:12:44,879
-Yeah.
-No.

294
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-Andy: No?
-Scott: No.

295
00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:48,883
-Andy: Um...
-(quietly): Just want
to kill them.

296
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-(laughter)
-kim: What did he say?

297
00:12:50,461 --> 00:12:52,261
He said,
"I just want to kill them."

298
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-Andy: You just want
to kill them.
-Scott: What?

299
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Andy:
Okay. Okay.

300
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Scott:
Well, the last guy...
Let's all be honest here.

301
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-Nobody was happy
with the last one.
-Kendall: Nobody.

302
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-Andy: Really?
-Kourtney: Yeah.
-So... Yeah.

303
00:13:00,763 --> 00:13:02,396
Scott and everyone else
didn't like him.

304
00:13:02,473 --> 00:13:03,782
Scott:
But I did try
to still support...

305
00:13:03,858 --> 00:13:05,566
I was still there
to try to help her through.

306
00:13:05,643 --> 00:13:08,694
So, scott, do kourtney
and travis have your blessing?

307
00:13:08,771 --> 00:13:11,697
Scott:
I mean, yeah. I mean,

308
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You know, I think if you really
love somebody, right,

309
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Like, you want them
to be happy no matter what, so,

310
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I do give her a blessing
to be happy.

311
00:13:20,992 --> 00:13:23,793
-Thank you.
-Do you give your blessing

312
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-To scott and amelia?
-Kourtney: Yeah.

313
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Whoever would make him happy,
like...

314
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Andy:
Whoever would make him happy.

315
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Kourtney:
...I would give my blessing.

316
00:13:30,552 --> 00:13:32,769
Andy:
Queenfreddieb said...

317
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You guys have talked about this.

318
00:13:37,258 --> 00:13:39,267
It's that the men have trouble
after you.

319
00:13:39,343 --> 00:13:41,394
-What I don't like
about this narrative...
-Okay. Yes.

320
00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:44,272
And I... I'm very excited
about this question.

321
00:13:44,348 --> 00:13:46,232
-Andy: Okay, good.
-What I don't like
about the narrative

322
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Is that the blame is on us.

323
00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:51,329
Like, I think
that they need to put the r...

324
00:13:51,406 --> 00:13:53,498
Like, the-the men need
to take that responsibility.

325
00:13:53,575 --> 00:13:55,500
-Do you know what I mean?
-Andy: Uh-huh.

326
00:13:55,577 --> 00:13:58,578
I think that we're all extremely
giving and caring

327
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And loving women, and when
there is a man in our lives,

328
00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:03,833
We, like, give everything
to them.

329
00:14:03,844 --> 00:14:09,297
And as a family,
we all love them so much, and

330
00:14:09,373 --> 00:14:11,349
It's like, almost, like,
offensive. I mean,

331
00:14:11,426 --> 00:14:13,467
-Just personally,
I'm saying, like...
-Kylie: Well, instead,

332
00:14:13,544 --> 00:14:14,594
-They're blaming women for...
-It's offensive
because they're...

333
00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:15,970
Right. They're blaming women

334
00:14:16,047 --> 00:14:17,638
-For men's problems.
-Kendall: Right.

335
00:14:17,715 --> 00:14:19,515
But you don't hear
a bunch of men on this couch.

336
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:23,194
And if the women
weren't doing better--

337
00:14:23,271 --> 00:14:24,645
Like, 'cause the men
are doing just as...

338
00:14:24,722 --> 00:14:26,647
Let me tell you,
kanye's doing pretty well,

339
00:14:26,724 --> 00:14:28,691
So I don't...
I think that, like...

340
00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:30,535
-Travis is doing great.
-You also have two
nba championships,

341
00:14:30,612 --> 00:14:32,612
-A super bowl. What else?
-Exactly.

342
00:14:32,647 --> 00:14:34,205
-I mean, all these
things that have...
-Kendall: Well, yeah.

343
00:14:34,282 --> 00:14:35,615
Of course, factually,
it doesn't add up.

344
00:14:35,650 --> 00:14:36,782
Kris:
You could go down the factual

345
00:14:36,859 --> 00:14:38,543
Successes of all the men. Yeah.

346
00:14:38,620 --> 00:14:40,953
Scott, do you feel like
you have a kardashian curse?

347
00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:42,288
No.

348
00:14:42,365 --> 00:14:44,832
Andy:
No? Okay, moving on.

349
00:14:44,909 --> 00:14:46,834
Kendall, what does it feel like
to be...?

350
00:14:46,911 --> 00:14:48,628
You grew up in this show.

351
00:14:48,704 --> 00:14:52,465
Now you're the highest-paid
supermodel in the world.

352
00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:54,508
Um, it's-it's so crazy,
'cause I think

353
00:14:54,585 --> 00:14:56,469
That, um, when I was younger--

354
00:14:56,545 --> 00:14:58,012
And I'm sure you guys can
all attest to this--

355
00:14:58,089 --> 00:14:59,731
I was, like, a huge tomboy,

356
00:14:59,807 --> 00:15:01,849
Like, couldn't really care less
about fashion.

357
00:15:01,926 --> 00:15:04,518
I, like... All I cared about
was my horses

358
00:15:04,595 --> 00:15:06,812
And, like, what sports
I was playing, so it's really

359
00:15:06,847 --> 00:15:08,406
Interesting that, I think,
at the beginning,

360
00:15:08,483 --> 00:15:09,982
Especially, of our show,
that was more me.

361
00:15:10,059 --> 00:15:12,860
And then, over time,
I think I, you know...

362
00:15:12,937 --> 00:15:16,489
It kind of happened really
naturally. Like, I don't...

363
00:15:16,565 --> 00:15:17,823
I can't say I was, like,

364
00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:19,751
You know, ten years old,
dreaming about it.

365
00:15:19,827 --> 00:15:22,244
But when I did get to, like,
14, 15, I was like,

366
00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:23,663
"wait a minute.
This seems so fun."

367
00:15:23,698 --> 00:15:25,706
I would take pictures
at our house.

368
00:15:25,783 --> 00:15:27,541
Like, I got a cam...
I loved phot...

369
00:15:27,618 --> 00:15:29,669
It started with photography.
I really loved photography,

370
00:15:29,745 --> 00:15:31,671
And I would take pictures
of my friends.

371
00:15:31,747 --> 00:15:33,547
And then, they'd be, like,
"let me take pictures of you."

372
00:15:33,624 --> 00:15:36,342
And I just ended up really
enjoying it, and it was, like...

373
00:15:36,419 --> 00:15:37,843
I know it's kind of corny
to say,

374
00:15:37,878 --> 00:15:39,720
But almost, like, destiny.
Like, I think

375
00:15:39,797 --> 00:15:41,681
That was what was pushing me
that direction.

376
00:15:41,716 --> 00:15:44,943
And I, like, presented
the cutest, like, little

377
00:15:45,019 --> 00:15:47,353
Modeling book to my mom
when I was, like, 14,

378
00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:49,689
And then she did
her kris jenner things

379
00:15:49,724 --> 00:15:52,066
And made it all come to life.

380
00:15:52,143 --> 00:15:53,567
Andy:
If you weren't a model,

381
00:15:53,644 --> 00:15:55,069
What do you think
you would be doing?

382
00:15:55,146 --> 00:15:58,030
Honestly, I think
I'd probably be

383
00:15:58,065 --> 00:16:01,283
In the olympics or going to the
olympics for horseback riding.

384
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:02,460
-Andy: Wow.
-That was always my dream,

385
00:16:02,537 --> 00:16:03,703
-Was horseback riding.
-Right.

386
00:16:03,779 --> 00:16:05,579
-And do you still ride?
-I do.

387
00:16:05,656 --> 00:16:07,081
I have two horses, but...

388
00:16:07,158 --> 00:16:09,375
Andy:
Sammy from montana said,
"what do you say

389
00:16:09,452 --> 00:16:11,794
"to those who accuse you
of using your platform

390
00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,630
"on the show to become a model,
or that you didn't properly

391
00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:17,350
Pay your dues?"

392
00:16:20,087 --> 00:16:23,648
Khloe, did you feel like kim
and kourtney received

393
00:16:23,725 --> 00:16:25,725
Preferential treatment because
of the way they looked?

394
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,394
Khloe:
Oh, 100%.

395
00:16:28,429 --> 00:16:31,397
It was never a question.
It was fact, and it was

396
00:16:31,432 --> 00:16:33,533
Very blatant.

397
00:16:38,906 --> 00:16:40,498
Sammy from montana said,
"what do you say

398
00:16:40,575 --> 00:16:42,825
"to those who accuse you
of using your platform

399
00:16:42,836 --> 00:16:45,336
"on the show to become a model,

400
00:16:45,413 --> 00:16:47,580
Or that you didn't properly
pay your dues?"

401
00:16:47,615 --> 00:16:50,249
Kendall:
Um, I mean, again,
in, like, the...

402
00:16:50,284 --> 00:16:52,418
In the topic of, like,
offensiveness

403
00:16:52,453 --> 00:16:54,587
To some of the things
that people, I think, assume

404
00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:57,256
About our family, um, I think,

405
00:16:57,291 --> 00:16:59,759
You know, everyone around me,
whether it's friends or family,

406
00:16:59,794 --> 00:17:02,854
Knows how hard I worked
and still work.

407
00:17:02,930 --> 00:17:05,639
And I did everything

408
00:17:05,716 --> 00:17:07,600
That I was supposed to do
and had to do

409
00:17:07,676 --> 00:17:10,695
To get to the position
that I'm at now as a model.

410
00:17:10,772 --> 00:17:13,531
I went to every single casting,
and ran all over

411
00:17:13,608 --> 00:17:16,108
Not only new york city,
but all over europe

412
00:17:16,143 --> 00:17:19,370
Trying to, you know, get a job
and-and make my way.

413
00:17:19,447 --> 00:17:21,280
Of course, I had a platform,
and I'll never...

414
00:17:21,315 --> 00:17:22,615
I never took that for granted.

415
00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:24,283
I always knew
that that was there,

416
00:17:24,318 --> 00:17:26,619
But that almost made my job
a little bit harder.

417
00:17:26,695 --> 00:17:29,789
Um, only because people,
you know,

418
00:17:29,865 --> 00:17:31,957
Probably didn't want to hire me

419
00:17:31,992 --> 00:17:33,793
Because I was
on a reality tv show.

420
00:17:33,828 --> 00:17:36,128
She actually wouldn't allow us,
as a family,

421
00:17:36,205 --> 00:17:38,222
To go to any
of the fashion shows.

422
00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:39,715
-Andy: Why?
-And sit front row,

423
00:17:39,726 --> 00:17:41,726
Because she didn't want
to be distracted with...

424
00:17:41,803 --> 00:17:43,844
-Or film.
-Yeah.
-Kendall: I took my last name

425
00:17:43,921 --> 00:17:45,730
Off of my name on, like,
all my modelling cards,

426
00:17:45,807 --> 00:17:47,732
So that I was taken
completely seriously.

427
00:17:47,809 --> 00:17:50,226
I mean, I literally,
like, went to,

428
00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:52,394
Like, the middle-of-nowhere
castings.

429
00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:56,649
Like, I-I definitely worked
my way to where I am now.

430
00:17:56,684 --> 00:17:58,409
I think it's just a perception
that people have

431
00:17:58,486 --> 00:18:00,569
That I just was like,
"give it to me," and I had it.

432
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,822
-It definitely was not that.
-Andy: Sasha from las vegas

433
00:18:02,857 --> 00:18:07,493
Wants to know, "kendall, do you
only date basketball players?

434
00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:09,161
"and do they have
to be good basketball players

435
00:18:09,238 --> 00:18:10,913
In order to get your attention?"

436
00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,415
No, I actually don't only
date basketball players,

437
00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:16,335
-If anyone's ever done
their research, um, but...
-(andy laughs)

438
00:18:16,412 --> 00:18:18,337
-Ooh!
-...I do... I'm not ashamed

439
00:18:18,372 --> 00:18:19,839
That I have a type,
and I'm also

440
00:18:19,874 --> 00:18:21,882
A genuine, like,
basketball fan.

441
00:18:21,959 --> 00:18:23,843
So it just kind of,
you know, has happened.

442
00:18:23,878 --> 00:18:26,679
So what's happening
with you and devin booker?

443
00:18:26,755 --> 00:18:29,515
Um, he's my boyfriend.

444
00:18:29,592 --> 00:18:30,942
-Andy: You're together?
-Kendall: Yeah.

445
00:18:31,018 --> 00:18:32,852
It seems like you have
consciously decided

446
00:18:32,928 --> 00:18:34,436
To keep your relationship
out of the public eye?

447
00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:36,230
Yeah. It's always just...

448
00:18:36,307 --> 00:18:38,691
I feel like it's always
worked better for me that way.

449
00:18:38,726 --> 00:18:41,527
-Uh-huh.
-And no offense
to my older sisters at all,

450
00:18:41,562 --> 00:18:42,954
But I think that kylie and I

451
00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:45,197
Specifically have, you know,
had the opportunity

452
00:18:45,274 --> 00:18:47,625
To watch my older sisters,
you know,

453
00:18:47,702 --> 00:18:49,910
Go through marriages
and-and relationships

454
00:18:49,987 --> 00:18:52,288
And breakups and all these
things and-and do them pretty...

455
00:18:52,298 --> 00:18:54,290
Scott:
Glad to be there for you.

456
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,708
Kendall:
No. Do them pretty publicly,

457
00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,468
And, like, again,
no offense to you guys at all,

458
00:18:57,545 --> 00:18:58,961
-None taken.
-...But I think, just it was

459
00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:00,796
Personal preference, from,
like, a really young age

460
00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:02,882
That I didn't really want
to, like...

461
00:19:02,958 --> 00:19:05,810
-Yeah.
-I think it makes my life

462
00:19:05,887 --> 00:19:09,638
A lot easier and
our relationship a lot better,

463
00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:10,890
To be completely honest.

464
00:19:10,966 --> 00:19:12,600
I just feel like
it's a private matter.

465
00:19:12,676 --> 00:19:15,644
It's not really for anybody else
to-to judge or know.

466
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,479
Andy:
Okay, let's switch gears.

467
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,274
So how do you all think
khloe has changed

468
00:19:20,351 --> 00:19:21,984
Since the beginning?

469
00:19:21,995 --> 00:19:23,828
-Since season one?
-(chuckles softly)

470
00:19:23,905 --> 00:19:25,663
Kris:
I think khloe has,

471
00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:29,909
And has built over the years,
um, an incredible confidence

472
00:19:29,944 --> 00:19:33,245
That sometimes comes and goes,
but overall,

473
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,414
I think the feeling is
she's so beautiful,

474
00:19:35,491 --> 00:19:37,625
And she's in such great shape,

475
00:19:37,701 --> 00:19:40,419
And she has got
so many beautiful qualities,

476
00:19:40,454 --> 00:19:42,671
Inside and out,
that I think that,

477
00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,590
At the end of the day,
she just has to learn

478
00:19:44,625 --> 00:19:46,926
-How to believe in herself.
-Andy: You launched

479
00:19:47,002 --> 00:19:49,854
Your successful denim line,
uh, specifically

480
00:19:49,931 --> 00:19:52,857
Designed to make women
of all sizes look beautiful.

481
00:19:52,934 --> 00:19:54,683
Looking back, do you feel bad

482
00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:57,695
That you were so hard
on yourself all those years?

483
00:19:57,772 --> 00:20:03,525
Well, interestingly enough,
I was so confident and secure

484
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,862
Before the show, and then I...

485
00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:10,783
I wasn't hard on myself
until we became...

486
00:20:10,859 --> 00:20:13,619
I mean, season one, I wouldn't
say, like, we were...

487
00:20:13,654 --> 00:20:16,497
I was famous, but I was always
kim's sister, but we would...

488
00:20:16,573 --> 00:20:18,499
I remember, kourtney and I would
always be in the background

489
00:20:18,575 --> 00:20:19,959
Of her photos, and we loved it.

490
00:20:19,994 --> 00:20:21,627
We just, like,
kind of loved annoying her,

491
00:20:21,704 --> 00:20:23,504
And, like, kind of embarrassing
her for paparazzi.

492
00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:26,390
And then, I mean, all the...

493
00:20:26,467 --> 00:20:29,301
Like, the perez hiltons
and all those, um...

494
00:20:29,378 --> 00:20:31,553
-Andy: Yup. Blogs.
-Blogs of the time.

495
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:36,517
That's when, you know,
all that narrative of "fugly"

496
00:20:36,593 --> 00:20:39,311
Or all these crazy things
that I wasn't even aware of

497
00:20:39,346 --> 00:20:42,815
About myself, um,
I think that's when I started

498
00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:45,150
To become hard on myself
because I was like,

499
00:20:45,185 --> 00:20:47,569
"oh, this is how
other people perceive me."

500
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,656
But my whole life, I never
looked at myself like that.

501
00:20:50,733 --> 00:20:52,408
I was always
in body-con dresses,

502
00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:54,076
And I was always like,
"oh, if kim has it,

503
00:20:54,087 --> 00:20:55,828
I'm gonna get one, too."

504
00:20:55,904 --> 00:20:58,080
And I would wiggle
into the same size, and I

505
00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:01,425
Most definitely wasn't her size,
but at the time,

506
00:21:01,502 --> 00:21:04,003
I didn't know
how much bigger I wa--

507
00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:08,599
I became insecure because of
everyone else telling me.

508
00:21:08,676 --> 00:21:10,426
Andy:
Did you... Did you feel like

509
00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:12,594
Kim and kourtney received
preferential treatment

510
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:15,681
-Because of the way they looked?
-Oh, 100%.

511
00:21:15,758 --> 00:21:18,851
We did so many photoshoots
where they would

512
00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:21,103
Receive racks and racks
of clothes, and I was told

513
00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:23,522
By so many different stylists,

514
00:21:23,557 --> 00:21:26,358
I was given about two or three
pieces of clothing, that's it,

515
00:21:26,435 --> 00:21:28,861
And not to worry 'cause I'll be
in the background anyway.

516
00:21:28,937 --> 00:21:30,571
Like, I wouldn't be
in the forefront.

517
00:21:30,647 --> 00:21:32,698
It would always be them two
and me behind them.

518
00:21:32,775 --> 00:21:33,949
So, not even...

519
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,961
It was never a question.
It was fact,

520
00:21:37,038 --> 00:21:39,747
And it was very blatant,
as well.

521
00:21:39,823 --> 00:21:41,749
Do you think
your sisters or your mom

522
00:21:41,825 --> 00:21:44,376
Take you more seriously
since you lost weight?

523
00:21:44,411 --> 00:21:46,637
Take us...
Her seriously about what?

524
00:21:46,714 --> 00:21:48,973
I don't know.
Do you... Do you feel

525
00:21:49,050 --> 00:21:50,474
That they view you
differently

526
00:21:50,551 --> 00:21:53,052
-Or-or treat you differently?
-I don't.

527
00:21:53,087 --> 00:21:56,638
No, I don't think <i> they </i> do,
but it's very interesting

528
00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:59,725
How much I notice, like,
everyone else does,

529
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,653
Which I understand,
but it's also a reason why

530
00:22:02,730 --> 00:22:06,648
I try to speak up
for even good american.

531
00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:09,735
Like, having size inclusivity
and not selling to stores

532
00:22:09,812 --> 00:22:11,829
That aren't gonna carry
my entire size range.

533
00:22:11,906 --> 00:22:13,906
'cause I don't want people
to feel

534
00:22:13,941 --> 00:22:16,950
Like they have to be a certain
size to be accepted, or...

535
00:22:17,027 --> 00:22:19,003
And even if I fluctuate
with my weight

536
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,081
Or be skinnier or bigger,
I don't want people to think

537
00:22:22,116 --> 00:22:23,791
That's what they have to be.
You can be whatever you want.

538
00:22:23,867 --> 00:22:25,626
I just want people
to be healthy.

539
00:22:25,702 --> 00:22:28,754
I-I do just want to ask,
because the other narrative

540
00:22:28,831 --> 00:22:33,425
That comes up is, do you think
that you are promoting

541
00:22:33,502 --> 00:22:36,687
Unattainable standards
of beauty in any way?

542
00:22:36,764 --> 00:22:40,808
No, I don't because I think
we get up, we do the work,

543
00:22:40,884 --> 00:22:43,977
We work out, you know.

544
00:22:44,054 --> 00:22:47,773
We all really enjoy taking care
of ourselves and being healthy.

545
00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:49,608
So I think, if anything,
the only thing

546
00:22:49,643 --> 00:22:51,652
We're really trying
to represent is just

547
00:22:51,728 --> 00:22:53,946
Having the most healthy ver...
Like, being

548
00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:55,206
The most healthy version
of yourself.

549
00:22:55,282 --> 00:22:57,783
Throughout the show, I feel like

550
00:22:57,818 --> 00:22:59,543
I'm always reading stuff...

551
00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:01,537
People are putting stuff
out there about your paternity,

552
00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:05,874
And I just have to think that
<i> that, </i> among everything

553
00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:07,927
You've gone through, is maybe
the most difficult thing.

554
00:23:12,967 --> 00:23:14,716
Andy:
Let me start with lamar.

555
00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:17,553
If you could go back in time,
would you

556
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:20,064
Still get married
in such a short period of time?

557
00:23:26,513 --> 00:23:28,981
Throughout the show, I feel like
I'm always readi

558
00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:30,741
People are putting stuff
out there

559
00:23:30,818 --> 00:23:33,577
About your paternity,
and I just have to think that

560
00:23:33,654 --> 00:23:36,655
<i> That, </i> among everything
you've gone through,

561
00:23:36,732 --> 00:23:38,574
Is maybe
the most difficult thing.

562
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:42,661
-Am I...?
-Yeah, but I have heard
that narrative way...

563
00:23:42,738 --> 00:23:45,423
I mean, since I've been a baby.

564
00:23:45,499 --> 00:23:47,425
That part doesn't hurt me now.

565
00:23:47,501 --> 00:23:50,594
I think I've... Because
I've been so used to that,

566
00:23:50,671 --> 00:23:54,006
That I've always been questioned
who's my... Real dad, or

567
00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:56,600
I must have a different dad
because I don't look as...

568
00:23:56,677 --> 00:23:58,886
-Kim: But wait. When...
In our 23andme is...
-Andy: Right.

569
00:23:58,962 --> 00:24:01,597
...You're, like, more armenian
than we are, which is, like...

570
00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:03,682
-Andy: Wow.
-She had more of a percentage of

571
00:24:03,717 --> 00:24:05,517
-Middle eastern
armenian descent then they did.
-Andy: Right.

572
00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:08,520
That's not the point here.
By people saying...

573
00:24:08,555 --> 00:24:12,524
Questioning always,
I can't be their...

574
00:24:12,601 --> 00:24:14,902
-Equal sibling...
-Kris: Sibling.

575
00:24:14,978 --> 00:24:17,446
...It's because of appearance.

576
00:24:17,457 --> 00:24:19,907
-It's not because of...
-Kendall: Facts.
-Genetics.

577
00:24:19,983 --> 00:24:23,627
Right, and so, that's the part
that's always... Stung,

578
00:24:23,704 --> 00:24:26,205
But it's been... I'm so immune
to that part, I don't...

579
00:24:26,281 --> 00:24:28,749
I mean, that's the part that
hurts me the least currently.

580
00:24:28,825 --> 00:24:31,969
Andy:
Is there something that has been
written about you

581
00:24:32,046 --> 00:24:34,638
Or talked about
that you feel like,

582
00:24:34,715 --> 00:24:38,642
"this is something that I always
get, and it's just not true"?

583
00:24:38,719 --> 00:24:40,219
Khloe:
Well, for me, everyone says,

584
00:24:40,295 --> 00:24:44,097
"oh, my gosh, she's had
her third face transplant."

585
00:24:44,174 --> 00:24:47,935
I've had one nose job--
dr. Raj kanodia.

586
00:24:48,011 --> 00:24:51,989
And everyone gets so upset.
Like, why don't I talk about it?

587
00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:53,774
No one's ever asked me.

588
00:24:53,850 --> 00:24:55,493
You're the first person
in an interview

589
00:24:55,569 --> 00:24:57,495
That's ever asked me
about my nose.

590
00:24:57,571 --> 00:24:59,988
I've done, sure, injections.

591
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:03,659
Not really botox. I've responded
horribly to botox.

592
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:07,162
Do you think you are more
or less insecure now

593
00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:08,830
Than you were
when the show started?

594
00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:12,626
When the show first started,
I was very secure.

595
00:25:12,703 --> 00:25:16,588
Very secure. And then,
during the first couple seasons,

596
00:25:16,665 --> 00:25:20,092
I became insecure
because of the public,

597
00:25:20,168 --> 00:25:23,095
Um, opinions of myself.

598
00:25:23,171 --> 00:25:25,856
Then I had, I think,
a good run of being secure,

599
00:25:25,933 --> 00:25:29,268
And then, I think recently,
I've become now insecure again.

600
00:25:29,344 --> 00:25:33,197
So I guess it just goes...
You know, up and down.

601
00:25:33,274 --> 00:25:36,775
There's-there's this crazy
environment

602
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:39,778
And culture on the internet
of this bullying

603
00:25:39,813 --> 00:25:42,531
-That is just so bad.
-Andy: Yeah.

604
00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:45,117
And I think that, you know,
we know all the statistics

605
00:25:45,152 --> 00:25:47,661
And all the suicide rates
and all of that, but it...

606
00:25:47,738 --> 00:25:50,122
I think people
just don't realize,

607
00:25:50,157 --> 00:25:52,624
Especially when they do it
anonymously, and they can just

608
00:25:52,701 --> 00:25:54,167
-Go on and say anything
they want.
-Andy: Yeah.

609
00:25:54,244 --> 00:25:57,546
We talk about it all the time,
but it's really so...

610
00:25:57,557 --> 00:26:01,842
Um, it's so cruel and so bad
for someone's mental health,

611
00:26:01,918 --> 00:26:03,885
-Just to keep getting badgered
all the time.
-Andy: Mm.

612
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,679
And from, you know...

613
00:26:05,756 --> 00:26:07,973
We were on the air for...
It's been 14 years.

614
00:26:08,008 --> 00:26:10,058
-20 seasons.
-Andy: And everything's changed
since then.

615
00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:12,570
Yeah, and it just becomes
more compounded

616
00:26:12,646 --> 00:26:14,146
With the more
social media platforms

617
00:26:14,181 --> 00:26:15,906
-That evolve over the years.
-Andy: Yeah.

618
00:26:15,983 --> 00:26:18,150
And when we started,
it, you know, was pretty quiet.

619
00:26:18,185 --> 00:26:20,694
And then it just... It-it...
Sometimes, it's a roar.

620
00:26:20,771 --> 00:26:22,154
You know, and that's hard.

621
00:26:22,189 --> 00:26:24,990
Okay, let's move on
to the next topic.

622
00:26:25,067 --> 00:26:27,242
Khloe, we've seen rob more
in the last few seasons.

623
00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:30,662
What-what made him want
to come back to the show?

624
00:26:30,739 --> 00:26:32,539
I think he just needed a break.

625
00:26:32,616 --> 00:26:37,002
I think, also, a lot of his
personal relationships really...

626
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:39,212
It's not so much
about physical appearance.

627
00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:41,214
It's a lot
of how he felt internally...

628
00:26:41,291 --> 00:26:43,175
-Mm-hmm.
-...About some of the women
in his life

629
00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:45,177
And how they treated him,

630
00:26:45,212 --> 00:26:47,554
Or how he felt
they might have used him

631
00:26:47,631 --> 00:26:51,183
To get to certain areas
or levels,

632
00:26:51,218 --> 00:26:52,851
And I think
that really affected him,

633
00:26:52,928 --> 00:26:55,613
'cause my brother is
such a lover and has, like,

634
00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:57,689
The most incredible heart
and personality.

635
00:26:57,766 --> 00:27:00,067
Um, and I think
he's just getting stronger,

636
00:27:00,143 --> 00:27:03,028
And I think you-you have
to get heartbroken,

637
00:27:03,105 --> 00:27:05,030
And you learn
from your mistakes.

638
00:27:05,107 --> 00:27:07,199
And I think he's just stronger
and feeling better

639
00:27:07,275 --> 00:27:10,702
To be around, to be more
vulnerable or exposed.

640
00:27:10,779 --> 00:27:12,630
-How is he doing?
-Khloe: I know

641
00:27:12,706 --> 00:27:15,874
Rob is really feeling really
good about himself right now,

642
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:17,968
And he's working really hard
on himself.

643
00:27:18,045 --> 00:27:20,921
And so, I think, before
he did something like this

644
00:27:20,997 --> 00:27:23,215
Where he has to address
probably the part

645
00:27:23,291 --> 00:27:25,050
That made him want
to take a break...

646
00:27:25,127 --> 00:27:26,885
-Andy: He can start fresh.
-Yes.

647
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,223
Got it.
Um, it must be hard co-parenting

648
00:27:31,299 --> 00:27:36,395
For him with someone
who's suing his entire family.

649
00:27:36,471 --> 00:27:38,313
You know, I'm sure it is,

650
00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,941
But we could only imagine
how hard that is.

651
00:27:41,017 --> 00:27:44,111
And I know he feels
really guilty about that,

652
00:27:44,187 --> 00:27:47,331
So none of us ever
make him feel bad about it.

653
00:27:47,408 --> 00:27:51,076
And dream is honestly one of
the most incredible little girls

654
00:27:51,111 --> 00:27:52,744
-In the entire world.
-Mm.

655
00:27:52,779 --> 00:27:55,414
And we never blur the two.

656
00:27:55,449 --> 00:27:57,958
We separate completely,
and we respect

657
00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:01,845
That chyna is the mother of
dream, and we'll always respect,

658
00:28:01,922 --> 00:28:03,755
Um, that that's her position.

659
00:28:03,790 --> 00:28:06,925
And-and so we never try
to bleed that

660
00:28:07,002 --> 00:28:08,802
Or make rob feel
any more guilty,

661
00:28:08,879 --> 00:28:10,303
'cause that's out
of his control.

662
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:12,764
-Is he dating?
-Yes.

663
00:28:12,841 --> 00:28:15,192
-Oh, he is? Oh, that's great.
-I mean... (chuckles softly)

664
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:18,195
-I was gonna suggest
malika and rob.
-Khloe: I know.

665
00:28:18,272 --> 00:28:19,863
-Been there, done that.
-Khloe: I know.

666
00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:21,773
We have been there
and done that, but...

667
00:28:21,808 --> 00:28:23,191
Andy:
What do you mean?

668
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,193
-You've tried?
-No.

669
00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:26,370
-They've hooked up before.
-Andy: Oh, they... Oh.

670
00:28:26,447 --> 00:28:27,871
They did, a while ago.

671
00:28:27,948 --> 00:28:29,114
-They were dating-ish.
-Khloe: Yeah.

672
00:28:29,149 --> 00:28:30,449
Andy:
Let's switch gears. Khloe,

673
00:28:30,525 --> 00:28:32,159
Let me start with lamar.

674
00:28:32,235 --> 00:28:34,953
Where do things stand
with the two of you today?

675
00:28:34,988 --> 00:28:36,714
-Um...
-Are you in touch at all?

676
00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:38,957
No, we're not in touch,
but I honestly

677
00:28:39,034 --> 00:28:42,461
Wish him nothing but the best
and good health, and I'm...

678
00:28:42,496 --> 00:28:44,796
I think we're all, like,
really rooting for him

679
00:28:44,873 --> 00:28:46,965
-And just want the best for him.
-If you could

680
00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:50,177
Go back in time, would you do
anything differently?

681
00:28:50,253 --> 00:28:53,180
Would you still get married
in such a short period of time?

682
00:28:53,256 --> 00:28:55,307
Yeah.

683
00:28:55,342 --> 00:28:58,351
I loved that chapter
in my life.

684
00:28:58,428 --> 00:29:01,405
I did, regardless of how dark

685
00:29:01,482 --> 00:29:04,316
And crazy that might sound.

686
00:29:04,351 --> 00:29:07,077
It was just still
a very significant part

687
00:29:07,154 --> 00:29:09,079
Of my story and my life,
and I wouldn't change it.

688
00:29:09,156 --> 00:29:10,489
I mean, how...

689
00:29:10,565 --> 00:29:12,699
It sounds crazy,
but that was meant to happen,

690
00:29:12,776 --> 00:29:15,327
And it happened. Yeah.

691
00:29:15,362 --> 00:29:17,496
What does it mean to you
that in recent years

692
00:29:17,572 --> 00:29:21,425
Lamar has been vocal about
owning his mistreatment of you?

693
00:29:21,502 --> 00:29:23,427
I really appreciate it.

694
00:29:23,504 --> 00:29:26,421
It's something
that our marriage ended

695
00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:30,091
In a way that there was not
a lot of closure on my end,

696
00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:31,843
And I would assume on his.

697
00:29:31,878 --> 00:29:33,845
And so when you ha...
When you get out of a marriage

698
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,775
Where you're not really able to
have a discussion with someone,

699
00:29:37,851 --> 00:29:41,061
I feel like it's hard
for you to move on.

700
00:29:41,137 --> 00:29:43,280
You feel always
incomplete... Incomplete,

701
00:29:43,357 --> 00:29:45,273
Or you're always
questioning things.

702
00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:48,443
So finally
to kind of get that closure,

703
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,363
Or just that acknowledgement
for me,

704
00:29:51,439 --> 00:29:55,459
Like, "okay, I did... I did
do everything I thought I did."

705
00:29:55,536 --> 00:29:57,202
'cause for a long time,
I was questioning

706
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,205
Maybe I didn't do enough,
or maybe I wasn't the wife

707
00:30:00,282 --> 00:30:03,416
I thought I was or that
I really believed I was living.

708
00:30:03,493 --> 00:30:05,544
But then to hear that,
you do get, like,

709
00:30:05,579 --> 00:30:07,137
Yeah, the validation, I guess.

710
00:30:07,214 --> 00:30:09,807
Andy:
Okay, so moving on to tristan.

711
00:30:09,883 --> 00:30:11,475
Before you found out
that he was cheating

712
00:30:11,552 --> 00:30:14,353
The first time, did you suspect?

713
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:28,108
Okay, so moving on to tristan.

714
00:30:28,184 --> 00:30:29,943
Before you found out
that he was cheating

715
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:32,830
The first time, did you suspect?

716
00:30:33,857 --> 00:30:35,499
No. I didn't.

717
00:30:35,576 --> 00:30:39,119
You know, finding out
just two days

718
00:30:39,195 --> 00:30:41,496
Before you're going into labor
about that, it was...

719
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:45,175
I didn't... I didn't have enough
time or energy,

720
00:30:45,252 --> 00:30:48,011
Maybe, to process
really what was happening.

721
00:30:48,088 --> 00:30:52,257
And I...
Just wanted to have my baby,

722
00:30:52,292 --> 00:30:54,092
And it just happened. (chuckles)

723
00:30:54,127 --> 00:30:55,802
Andy:
That was one
of the most fascinating,

724
00:30:55,879 --> 00:30:59,180
Real, surprising,

725
00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:04,144
Emotional things that I've seen
on the show, in the run.

726
00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:06,021
In the delivery room,

727
00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:08,648
You're sitting there,
your family is around you,

728
00:31:08,725 --> 00:31:10,692
-Protecting you.
-Mm-hmm.

729
00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:12,703
(loud grunting)

730
00:31:12,779 --> 00:31:14,946
-(indistinct chatter)
-(true cries)

731
00:31:14,981 --> 00:31:18,658
Khloe:
Having these beginning moments
with my daughter

732
00:31:18,735 --> 00:31:20,285
And seeing him be
such a great father to her,

733
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,622
That's really
what's important to me.

734
00:31:23,657 --> 00:31:25,624
Andy:
You are able to

735
00:31:25,659 --> 00:31:28,543
See the greater good
of having this man,

736
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:31,671
Who's the father of your baby,
there with you for this moment

737
00:31:31,748 --> 00:31:34,007
-And putting that aside.
-Khloe: Well...

738
00:31:34,084 --> 00:31:36,301
What does it feel like to
watch that, when you see that?

739
00:31:36,378 --> 00:31:39,730
It's strange. That was a very
out-of-body experience.

740
00:31:39,806 --> 00:31:42,733
I genuinely don't really
remember a lot

741
00:31:42,809 --> 00:31:44,643
Of in the delivery room.

742
00:31:44,678 --> 00:31:47,062
I think I was zoning out,
and my eye was just, like...

743
00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:50,315
-Andy: Yeah.
-I was focused,
and I had blinders on

744
00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:54,986
For a lot of things,
but I knew, okay,

745
00:31:55,021 --> 00:31:57,322
My daughter is gonna want
to see her birth video

746
00:31:57,357 --> 00:31:59,324
One day, I would hope,
and I wanted

747
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:01,326
To think about true,
at that moment,

748
00:32:01,403 --> 00:32:03,203
And say, "this is not about me.

749
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,997
"we're gonna handle this
on our own, later.

750
00:32:06,074 --> 00:32:08,041
This should not ever
affect my child."

751
00:32:08,118 --> 00:32:10,594
And I wanted
to have these memories,

752
00:32:10,671 --> 00:32:12,170
To have these moments
for her, and...

753
00:32:12,247 --> 00:32:14,047
-That's incredible. I...
-Kim: No, it really was.

754
00:32:14,124 --> 00:32:17,092
I mean, you wanted true
to have this experience

755
00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:19,094
That she'll remember
for the rest of her life.

756
00:32:19,104 --> 00:32:21,346
I couldn't have been that calm,
and I just remember thinking,

757
00:32:21,381 --> 00:32:24,849
Like, "you are the, like,
bravest, calmest, most,

758
00:32:24,926 --> 00:32:27,852
Like, honorable person
I've ever met."

759
00:32:27,887 --> 00:32:30,855
Bean bag lover tweeted,
"khloe, when tristan first

760
00:32:30,932 --> 00:32:33,191
"cheated on you,
how did you know he...

761
00:32:33,226 --> 00:32:35,610
It hadn't been done
nor will be done again?"

762
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,362
Well, it was done again.
(chuckles)

763
00:32:37,439 --> 00:32:40,365
-Andy: It was.
-It was done again.

764
00:32:40,442 --> 00:32:42,033
Why did you take him back?
Just for true?

765
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:44,035
The first time, when I had true,

766
00:32:44,112 --> 00:32:46,630
It was a very strange...

767
00:32:46,707 --> 00:32:50,208
But not for the baby. It was
just, like, the circumstances.

768
00:32:50,243 --> 00:32:52,877
It's so hard to explain.
I'm now in cleveland,

769
00:32:52,912 --> 00:32:55,973
Stuck here,
I'm in this media storm.

770
00:32:56,049 --> 00:32:59,142
I couldn't really face
going home, either.

771
00:32:59,219 --> 00:33:03,814
Like, I felt so... Overwhelmed.

772
00:33:03,890 --> 00:33:06,224
Like, if I go home, there's
gonna be all this paparazzi,

773
00:33:06,301 --> 00:33:07,934
Everyone asking questions,
everyone coming over.

774
00:33:08,011 --> 00:33:09,644
I needed to just be alone
with my daughter.

775
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:11,271
And it was the best thing
I did, was having

776
00:33:11,347 --> 00:33:13,148
Three months alone with true.

777
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:15,942
And then, I mean,
it just sort of happened.

778
00:33:16,019 --> 00:33:17,944
And I did then have this thing.

779
00:33:18,021 --> 00:33:21,823
Like, "okay this is for
my baby." which is a strange...

780
00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:23,408
It seems from social media

781
00:33:23,443 --> 00:33:25,952
That the two of you
are back together.

782
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:29,289
We weren't... For season 20,
we weren't together.

783
00:33:29,365 --> 00:33:31,249
And then-- I don't know--

784
00:33:31,284 --> 00:33:34,419
We just really, really
became genuine,

785
00:33:34,454 --> 00:33:37,756
Great friends with one another
and great co-p...

786
00:33:37,791 --> 00:33:39,841
He's a great dad and a good...

787
00:33:39,852 --> 00:33:41,176
But co-parenting's
not the thing.

788
00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,761
We just really...
I don't know.

789
00:33:42,796 --> 00:33:44,929
It just was
this natural progression.

790
00:33:44,964 --> 00:33:46,931
And I'm not saying
that's, you know,

791
00:33:46,966 --> 00:33:49,142
What I would encourage
other people to do.

792
00:33:49,219 --> 00:33:51,352
It's just what naturally
happened for him and I.

793
00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:53,438
Do you trust him?

794
00:33:53,515 --> 00:33:55,940
I mean, I definitely trust him
as a friend

795
00:33:55,975 --> 00:33:58,359
And all those things,
but I'm not someone that...

796
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,446
You know, what I need to find
out, everything comes my way.

797
00:34:01,481 --> 00:34:03,448
I just have to trust.

798
00:34:03,483 --> 00:34:05,992
I need to focus on today
and go day by day.

799
00:34:06,069 --> 00:34:10,330
I don't really...
I can't worry too much about

800
00:34:10,406 --> 00:34:12,123
Everything else.
I know the growth

801
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,292
And all the work
that he's done.

802
00:34:14,327 --> 00:34:16,836
I know all the help
that he's got

803
00:34:16,913 --> 00:34:19,964
And the constant efforts
that he makes every single day

804
00:34:19,999 --> 00:34:24,728
And how hard he fought
to get back with me currently.

805
00:34:24,805 --> 00:34:27,013
I mean, you could ask everyone.

806
00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:28,473
It really wasn't an easy thing
for him.

807
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:30,233
But I don't understand
why someone would

808
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:33,019
Go through all that
if they weren't really serious.

809
00:34:33,096 --> 00:34:34,896
-Um...
-He really did try.

810
00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:37,741
He came to each and every one
of us and really apologized

811
00:34:37,818 --> 00:34:40,985
And was, you know,
genuinely, um,

812
00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:44,322
Sorry that he had hurt khloe,
and true and the family,

813
00:34:44,357 --> 00:34:46,491
And really worked
on that relationship

814
00:34:46,568 --> 00:34:49,494
For a year and a half,
and really... I mean,

815
00:34:49,571 --> 00:34:52,080
Seeing them together,
because I was with them a lot

816
00:34:52,091 --> 00:34:54,165
During covid, and we would be

817
00:34:54,242 --> 00:34:55,759
In the desert
or wherever we were,

818
00:34:55,836 --> 00:34:57,752
And he would always make sure
he was there,

819
00:34:57,763 --> 00:34:59,754
And really showed her

820
00:34:59,765 --> 00:35:02,766
How he could step it up as a man

821
00:35:02,843 --> 00:35:04,935
And take responsibility
for what had happened.

822
00:35:05,011 --> 00:35:08,271
-Do you want more kids?
-Khloe: I do want more kids.

823
00:35:08,348 --> 00:35:10,056
-With tristan?
-Yeah.

824
00:35:10,133 --> 00:35:13,017
-Yeah.
-I do want more kids,
um, with tristan.

825
00:35:13,052 --> 00:35:16,062
You know, tristan and
I definitely are not perfect,

826
00:35:16,139 --> 00:35:18,281
And... But it's also
like kourtney said,

827
00:35:18,358 --> 00:35:20,859
I get when you open up
your personal life

828
00:35:20,894 --> 00:35:22,402
To so many people, too.

829
00:35:22,478 --> 00:35:25,238
You hear so much outside noise,
as well.

830
00:35:25,315 --> 00:35:29,459
Where are you
with your surrogacy journey?

831
00:35:29,536 --> 00:35:32,912
It's a very, um,
tedious, hard process.

832
00:35:32,989 --> 00:35:34,247
And, well, it's interesting

833
00:35:34,324 --> 00:35:36,040
'cause kim went
through the journey,

834
00:35:36,117 --> 00:35:38,084
And I swear it felt like,
she's like,

835
00:35:38,161 --> 00:35:39,460
"I want to get pregnant."

836
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:40,971
Two weeks later,
she found a surrogate.

837
00:35:41,047 --> 00:35:43,807
And it's a lot to do with covid.

838
00:35:43,884 --> 00:35:47,552
-Um, I did have one,
and then it fell through.
-Yeah.

839
00:35:47,587 --> 00:35:51,314
Um, there are so many tests
they have to do,

840
00:35:51,391 --> 00:35:53,433
And all these things.
So I'm still on that journey.

841
00:35:53,509 --> 00:35:55,435
It's just, I thought it would be
a much easier process.

842
00:35:55,511 --> 00:35:57,395
-Andy: Yeah.
-Khloe: And it's not.

843
00:35:57,430 --> 00:36:01,107
-It's challenging for me.
-Andy: Another key player

844
00:36:01,184 --> 00:36:02,483
In your relationship
with tristan

845
00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,569
Is your old friend jordyn woods.

846
00:36:04,646 --> 00:36:07,447
W-what's the status
with her today, would you say?

847
00:36:07,523 --> 00:36:10,333
Um, I personally don't talk
to her, but I think

848
00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:13,828
She's doing really well
in her personal life.

849
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,338
Matilda from kansas city wants
to know

850
00:36:15,415 --> 00:36:17,174
Why you haven't given
the same pass to jordyn

851
00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:20,844
-As you did to tristan.
-I mean, I'm really happy

852
00:36:20,921 --> 00:36:22,420
To hear that question,

853
00:36:22,455 --> 00:36:25,256
Because I think that's a huge
misconception. I have...

854
00:36:25,291 --> 00:36:27,300
And that's also the thing,
where some narratives aren't

855
00:36:27,377 --> 00:36:31,429
As fun to pass around,
and spread like wildfire.

856
00:36:31,506 --> 00:36:34,599
I've actually tweeted, I've
actually done insta stories

857
00:36:34,634 --> 00:36:39,354
That I don't have any grudge
against jordyn.

858
00:36:39,364 --> 00:36:42,023
I think people make mistakes,
people live, and they learn.

859
00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:43,483
And I forgive both parties.

860
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,486
How could I forgive tristan
and not jordyn?

861
00:36:46,562 --> 00:36:49,489
That sounds, you know,
asinine, in my opinion.

862
00:36:49,565 --> 00:36:52,158
-You do forgive her?
-I forgive jordyn.
But because...

863
00:36:52,235 --> 00:36:54,494
Or else I would be a prisoner,
in my life.

864
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:56,496
I have to forgive these people
for me.

865
00:36:56,572 --> 00:36:58,882
And it's up to them
to forgive themselves

866
00:36:58,959 --> 00:37:02,293
And to be accountable,
and learn,

867
00:37:02,328 --> 00:37:04,629
And hopefully don't repeat these
same cycles that they're doing.

868
00:37:04,706 --> 00:37:06,631
But of course I forgive jordyn.

869
00:37:06,708 --> 00:37:08,549
Andy:
Sarah from rochester,
new york said,

870
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,895
"kylie, jordyn was a huge
part of your life for years

871
00:37:11,972 --> 00:37:14,064
"and practically a part
of the family.

872
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:16,557
"did you guys have a chance
to talk about everything

873
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:18,893
That went down
between she and tristan?"

874
00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:21,187
Jordyn and I did talk...
Have a talk after that.

875
00:37:21,264 --> 00:37:23,398
When we were friends,
we never thought

876
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:25,075
That we wouldn't be friends.

877
00:37:25,151 --> 00:37:28,152
It was kind of
an overnight thing.

878
00:37:28,229 --> 00:37:31,155
And, you know...

879
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:35,410
When... She did something
to my family,

880
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,496
It felt like she did something,
you know, to me.

881
00:37:38,573 --> 00:37:40,298
Did she apologize
to you personally?

882
00:37:42,118 --> 00:37:43,084
I'm gonna keep it real.

883
00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:44,919
Tristan has a baby with khloe.

884
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,421
We have to always, like,
keep it cool.

885
00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:48,172
If there's no babies involved,

886
00:37:48,249 --> 00:37:50,642
And (bleep) goes down,
like, "sorry."

887
00:37:56,924 --> 00:37:59,484
♪ ♪

888
00:38:02,305 --> 00:38:05,398
Did she apologize
to you personally?

889
00:38:05,475 --> 00:38:06,899
-No.
-No. You think

890
00:38:06,976 --> 00:38:08,735
She'll ever be invited
back into your...

891
00:38:08,811 --> 00:38:10,737
The inner circle
of the family?

892
00:38:10,813 --> 00:38:13,456
I have told kylie,
um, intimately,

893
00:38:13,533 --> 00:38:16,784
That I would genuinely not care
whatsoever

894
00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:19,787
If kylie wants
to be her friend again. I...

895
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,799
My sisters matter way more to me

896
00:38:22,876 --> 00:38:24,876
Than any grudge or issue

897
00:38:24,952 --> 00:38:27,470
That I would have
with another individual.

898
00:38:27,547 --> 00:38:29,714
And if I can allow tristan back
into my life,

899
00:38:29,749 --> 00:38:32,592
I need to allow
the same forgiveness

900
00:38:32,668 --> 00:38:33,718
And acceptance
of other people.

901
00:38:33,795 --> 00:38:35,386
And if kylie-kylie has...

902
00:38:35,421 --> 00:38:37,388
We've had these conversations.
If kylie wants...

903
00:38:37,423 --> 00:38:39,223
We've had a lot
of conversations.

904
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:40,892
...Jordyn to be her friend,
that's up to kylie.

905
00:38:40,927 --> 00:38:42,393
Kim:
But I'm-I'm gonna keep it real.

906
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:46,439
Tristan has a baby with khloe,
so they...

907
00:38:46,516 --> 00:38:48,441
Tristan will always be in
our lives, one way or the other.

908
00:38:48,518 --> 00:38:50,318
-Right. That's what
I was thinking.
-Kim: If a girl was...

909
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:52,662
If-if anyone else came
in the situation,

910
00:38:52,739 --> 00:38:55,782
I wouldn't choose to want
to spend all my extra time.

911
00:38:55,858 --> 00:38:57,742
I get it.
Like, tristan's family.

912
00:38:57,819 --> 00:38:59,660
We have to always,
like, keep it cool.

913
00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:02,339
There's a baby involved. So
if there's no babies involved,

914
00:39:02,415 --> 00:39:05,500
And (bleep) goes down,
like, "sorry."

915
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,835
That part is true,
but I'm also...

916
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,754
Right,
if there was no baby involved,

917
00:39:09,831 --> 00:39:11,756
-There would be
a different story.
-Andy: That's true.

918
00:39:11,791 --> 00:39:13,299
-But what I'm saying is that...
-But she also said

919
00:39:13,376 --> 00:39:14,684
That he's atoned
for a year and a half, and...

920
00:39:14,761 --> 00:39:16,803
-Kim: Totally.
-But also, there... It's...

921
00:39:16,879 --> 00:39:18,846
What I am, what

922
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,848
Kylie and I have had multiple
conversations about is...

923
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,809
-Kim: Yes.
-You know, 'cause at times,

924
00:39:22,885 --> 00:39:24,811
Kylie might feel,

925
00:39:24,887 --> 00:39:26,938
"oh, I miss someone."
or she's spent so many years

926
00:39:26,973 --> 00:39:28,940
-Of her life with jordyn.
-Totally. I get that.

927
00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:31,692
Khloe:
And I've said to her 100 times,
I never want

928
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,279
Kylie to fast-forward ten years,
and kylie to be like,

929
00:39:35,314 --> 00:39:38,950
"wow. I really regret
not getting

930
00:39:38,985 --> 00:39:40,618
To be back friends
with jordyn again,"

931
00:39:40,695 --> 00:39:42,453
Or she has resentment
towards me.

932
00:39:42,488 --> 00:39:45,331
I don't care enough
to ever hurt my sister.

933
00:39:45,408 --> 00:39:47,792
Did she ever send you
the letter she promised?

934
00:39:47,827 --> 00:39:49,961
-No.
-I-I want to ask everybody,

935
00:39:50,037 --> 00:39:53,548
As you've looked back on the
series today and your lives,

936
00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:55,550
Tell me something
that you've learned or that

937
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,885
You've come away
from tonight realizing.

938
00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,896
Kylie:
This entire experience

939
00:39:59,973 --> 00:40:02,348
Has brought me a lot closer
to you guys

940
00:40:02,425 --> 00:40:05,476
And appreciate you all
so much more.

941
00:40:05,553 --> 00:40:08,646
And I feel like
I did throw myself in my friends

942
00:40:08,723 --> 00:40:11,399
For so many years
and didn't realize

943
00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:13,484
I have the best friends
here with me.

944
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,736
-We've been trying to tell you.
-Kylie: My permanent friends.

945
00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:17,321
(laughing):
We've been trying to tell you.

946
00:40:17,398 --> 00:40:19,031
But it made me all...

947
00:40:19,108 --> 00:40:22,368
Every situation, and all the
heartbreak and the trust issues,

948
00:40:22,445 --> 00:40:25,037
Like, has just brought me
so much closer to you guys,

949
00:40:25,114 --> 00:40:27,999
And I appreciate you all
on another level.

950
00:40:28,075 --> 00:40:31,761
Kim:
I love you. I think the one
thing I took away just from this

951
00:40:31,838 --> 00:40:34,839
Whole experience of filming
<i>keeping up with the kardashians</i>

952
00:40:34,874 --> 00:40:39,436
And even watching it all back,
is we are so lucky.

953
00:40:39,512 --> 00:40:40,845
-We have an awesome life.
-Kylie: We are very lucky.

954
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Kim:
We are so blessed to have found

955
00:40:42,715 --> 00:40:45,850
Each other in this life, to...

956
00:40:45,885 --> 00:40:48,853
Just have all these experiences
together.

957
00:40:48,888 --> 00:40:50,521
Have our babies together.

958
00:40:50,556 --> 00:40:52,523
Kim:
We're lucky, guys.

959
00:40:52,558 --> 00:40:53,858
Kris:
We have the best family
in the world.

960
00:40:53,935 --> 00:40:55,452
-Kendall: We get to do it
together.
-Mm-hmm.

961
00:40:55,528 --> 00:40:56,786
And I don't think a lot
of people can say that--

962
00:40:56,863 --> 00:40:58,696
Even people that are in
our positions.

963
00:40:58,773 --> 00:41:00,364
Not a lot of people can say

964
00:41:00,441 --> 00:41:02,459
That every single one
of their family members

965
00:41:02,535 --> 00:41:04,076
Can completely understand, like,
what they're going through

966
00:41:04,153 --> 00:41:05,536
-On a daily basis.
-Kris: Yeah.

967
00:41:05,571 --> 00:41:06,537
So, like, I think
that's something

968
00:41:06,572 --> 00:41:08,080
That I really appreciate.

969
00:41:08,157 --> 00:41:10,541
And also a thing that I think
keeps us all, like, sane.

970
00:41:10,576 --> 00:41:12,043
-Grounded.
-Kylie: Grounded.

971
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:13,636
-Absolutely. Absolutely.
-To-to as much as we can be.

972
00:41:13,713 --> 00:41:15,379
-You know what I mean?
-That's the key.

973
00:41:15,414 --> 00:41:17,548
But also that everyone has
something like this,

974
00:41:17,625 --> 00:41:21,552
Like, families that,
as adults, like,

975
00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:26,390
Are actually this close and
spend this much time together.

976
00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:29,435
-Scott, what about you?
-Scott: I think I've learned

977
00:41:29,512 --> 00:41:32,063
Probably mostly just,

978
00:41:32,139 --> 00:41:35,107
Like, what you need
to respect in life,

979
00:41:35,184 --> 00:41:37,109
I guess, to have,
like, a good life.

980
00:41:37,186 --> 00:41:40,112
Khloe:
I think I've learned
a couple things. It's just,

981
00:41:40,189 --> 00:41:42,499
You really... We don't know
who you can trust,

982
00:41:42,575 --> 00:41:45,910
But we can definitely trust
and rely on one another.

983
00:41:45,945 --> 00:41:48,838
And you keep your circle small,
but that doesn't mean

984
00:41:48,915 --> 00:41:50,915
You don't allow a rare few in,

985
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:53,417
But we're just really guarded
about who we let in.

986
00:41:53,494 --> 00:41:55,419
I also think that, like,
something that I can

987
00:41:55,496 --> 00:41:57,922
Thank you for is almost
the uncomfortable questions,

988
00:41:57,999 --> 00:41:59,757
'cause I think, personally...

989
00:41:59,792 --> 00:42:01,518
This is a personal issue
that I have. Like,

990
00:42:01,594 --> 00:42:03,970
I'm... I consider myself, like,
somewhat of a realist--

991
00:42:04,046 --> 00:42:06,022
You guys can correct me
if you think I'm wrong--

992
00:42:06,099 --> 00:42:08,140
But, like, I love, like...
I appreciate, like, honesty,

993
00:42:08,217 --> 00:42:11,018
And, like, I'm sometimes,
like, brutally honest.

994
00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:13,646
So I think the false narratives
around my family,

995
00:42:13,723 --> 00:42:16,524
I get really protective
over them, but also,

996
00:42:16,535 --> 00:42:18,701
It frustrates me when there's
false narratives about me.

997
00:42:18,778 --> 00:42:20,778
So I think that it was
really actually, like,

998
00:42:20,855 --> 00:42:22,872
Almost, like, refreshing
to be able to, like,

999
00:42:22,949 --> 00:42:24,949
Address maybe
those uncomfortable questions

1000
00:42:25,026 --> 00:42:28,536
And be like,
"okay. But this isn't true,

1001
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:30,538
Or this is actually
what happened."

1002
00:42:30,549 --> 00:42:32,832
Or... You know what I mean?
I think that that, you know,

1003
00:42:32,908 --> 00:42:34,875
Is a really nice...
It's a nice thing to be able

1004
00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:36,719
To talk about sometimes,
'cause most of the time,

1005
00:42:36,796 --> 00:42:38,629
We don't really say anything
about all the things.

1006
00:42:38,706 --> 00:42:40,464
And we don't want to usually
bring it up or talk about it.

1007
00:42:40,541 --> 00:42:42,174
-Yeah.
-Right. Or bring it
any more light.

1008
00:42:42,251 --> 00:42:43,676
-So that's kind of...
-Andy: Well,
that makes me happy,

1009
00:42:43,753 --> 00:42:45,177
'cause that was the point
of tonight.

1010
00:42:45,254 --> 00:42:46,563
-Kendall and kourtney: Yeah.
-To look back, but also,

1011
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:48,139
I mean, there has been...

1012
00:42:48,174 --> 00:42:51,017
It's unusual how much of a swirl

1013
00:42:51,093 --> 00:42:54,145
Goes on around you guys
when you do everything.

1014
00:42:54,221 --> 00:42:59,150
Well, kris, kourtney,
kim, khloe, kendall,

1015
00:42:59,185 --> 00:43:02,528
Kylie and scott,
congratulations.

1016
00:43:02,605 --> 00:43:03,863
-Thank you.
-I want to thank you all

1017
00:43:03,939 --> 00:43:05,823
For inviting me
to end this amazing run.

1018
00:43:05,858 --> 00:43:10,086
I think we should grab
some 818 tequila, and...

1019
00:43:10,163 --> 00:43:12,163
-Let's take a shot.
-Andy: ...Have a little toast.
-Yes.

1020
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,748
-Kendall, what cute
shot glasses.
-I know.

1021
00:43:13,758 --> 00:43:15,091
Kris:
All right, guys.

1022
00:43:15,168 --> 00:43:18,210
To the best family
in the entire world...

1023
00:43:18,287 --> 00:43:20,096
(voice breaking):
That I wouldn't want to do this

1024
00:43:20,173 --> 00:43:22,599
With anybody else.
I love you guys.

1025
00:43:22,675 --> 00:43:24,175
-Mm.
-Love you.
-Love you.

1026
00:43:24,210 --> 00:43:26,844
-Love you.
-Look me in the eyes, guys.

1027
00:43:26,879 --> 00:43:28,846
Oh. Cheers.

1028
00:43:28,923 --> 00:43:30,773
That's a lot of people
to cheers.

1029
00:43:30,850 --> 00:43:33,017
-(khloe laughs)
-kim: Is that not
the smoothest tequila,

1030
00:43:33,052 --> 00:43:35,019
-Or what?
-Wow.
-That's good.

1031
00:43:35,054 --> 00:43:36,228
-Really good.
-Good stuff.

1032
00:43:36,305 --> 00:43:37,772
-Yeah.
-It's the best.

1033
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,231
-It's really good.
-Just for good luck.

1034
00:43:39,308 --> 00:43:41,192
-I just had a tiny sip.
-I took a little sip.

1035
00:43:41,227 --> 00:43:43,119
-Kris: Mmm.
-Oh, I took the full shot.

1036
00:43:43,196 --> 00:43:44,862
-Oh, I just had a tiny sip.
-What?! Ooh.
-As you should.

1037
00:43:44,939 --> 00:43:46,572
-(laughter)
-whatever.

1038
00:43:46,649 --> 00:43:48,574
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