Kris: How are you doing, khlo? You okay?
Good.
-Mom, you look gorgeous. -Kris: You look beautiful.
-Kendall: I love you guys. -Kris: Don't you wish we could just do this
-And then put it on, like, in the morning? -Yeah, like a sticker.
-Andy: Hey. -Kim: Hi. How are you?
-Andy: Mwah. Mwah. -Uh, I got to be honest,
-My mom's a bit nervous. -I know.
So, just, like, I told her, "just go with it."
-Yeah. I just want to... -Totally.
-...Talk about all this (bleep). -Totally.
-Kris: Wow. -Khloe: You look so gorgeous.
Look who's talking, miss thing.
-Do you have the tequila? -Kim: They're bringing it.
Oh, perfect.
(all gasping)
Andy: Hi.
And by the way, you've been doing this
-For 20 seasons... -Right.
...And there's so much (bleep) that's happened on the show.
-So I just want to talk about as much of it as I possibly can. -Okay.
Okay. All right, kids.
Oh, my god. No, thank you.
-(laughter) -andy: I'll take a shot.
-Kris (laughs): Yeah. -Khloe: Oh, my god,
You look amazing.
Kris: You don't come often,
-What? -But when you do, you show up.
-(gasps) thank you. -You look like an angel.
-I am. And if you guys... -You look like a black angel.
If you guys felt how soft my feet are...
They're angel feet.
-Woman: Are you guys ready? -Khloe: Kourt, let's go.
-Mom, come here. -Khloe: Mom.
-Kourtney: Tell me we're not next to each other. -Kim: Oh, this looks so good.
-Kris: Wow. -Kendall: So cute.
Kris: This is so fab.
Khloe: You both are very bridgerton,
-You two on the... -That's the only way I go now: Bridgerton.
-Really? Bridgerton is...? -Until I go home with the duke.
-(laughing) -p.A.: All right, five seconds to clear the set, please.
Man: In five, four, three, two...
♪ ♪
Hey, everybody. Welcome to a sit-down
20 seasons in the making.
I'm andy cohen here with the kardashian-jenners
At a family reunion like no other.
Ladies, it is wonderful seeing all of you today.
-Hi, kris. -Hi. We're excited to be here.
-Good. -Yeah.
Is that one of the 65 outfits that kim gave you?
-It's not, but it should've been. -It should've been.
Yeah. I know. I took some inspiration from kim's...
One of her favorite designers, vivienne...
-Kim/andy: Westwood. -Westwood.
-(laughter) -andy: Right.
-Well, you look beautiful. -Thank you.
-Hi, kim. -Hi.
-How are you? -Good. How are you?
Great. Who are you wearing tonight?
-Vivienne westwood. -Oh, perfect.
-(laughter) -oh, wow, it's a theme.
Mom, you know, tends to take inspo and copy,
So we-we kind of got ready together.
-Oh, okay. She copies. -Yep, she does.
-Hi, kourtney. -Hi.
You seem to be living your best life lately.
I am. Living... It's about living life.
Excellent. And you're pooshing your way through life.
-Pooshing my way. Pooshing the boundaries. -Yes.
Pooshing the boundaries. Hey, khloé.
-Hi, andé. -How you doing?
I'm good. How are you?
Are you and camille excited to be here today?
Uh, we are, but ctc all the way. You can't see a thing.
-Hi, kendall. -Hi.
-It's nice to see you. -Nice to see you, too.
-Can I call you kenny, or is it...? -Yeah, you can call me kenny.
-All right. Excellent. Okay... -Of course.
-It's actually what I prefer sometimes, you know. -Oh, okay, good.
Now that andy's a part of the family.
-Yeah, right. -Andy: Wow.
Last but not least-- hi, kylie.
-Hi. How are you? -It's great to see you.
-Good to see you. -I'm hoping that I can borrow
A few coins if my meter runs out in front.
-I'll think about it. -Okay, good. Thank you.
Well, we have a lot of ground to cover tonight,
Especially considering all that's happened to your family
In the decade and a half you've been on television.
Between the six of you, you've had nine spin-offs.
Two of you are billionaires.
You've had headline-making relationships,
Leading to three marriages and three and a half divorces.
Over a dozen disappeared pets.
-(laughter) -ten grandchildren.
And nearly 800 million google search results.
We are wrapping up 20 seasons of your incredible run.
None of you has any idea
The questions that I'm gonna be asking you.
-No. -You gave me no ground rules,
So I'm gonna go there.
-That's a next level of trust that we have for you. -Yes.
Yes. Anyone nervous about this?
I was anxious. I don't know why,
'cause I'm not really an anxious person,
But more so yesterday or the day before.
Today I feel fine.
-But I was anxious. -I feel slight,
Like a tequila shot could be in favor...
-Andy: Okay. -With a glass of wine.
-Me and kylie took one. -I did, I did take a...
Kim: Oh, you're already a few tequila shots in?
-Kylie, you took... -I did take a 818 shot before this.
-Okay, can we take a shot? -So did I.
-Well, let's get rolling, and we will see... -No. I want to take a shot.
And we'll see what we need.
Um, who wanted the show to go on the most,
And who wanted it to end the most?
I think we can all agree
Kourtney wanted it to end the most.
At the end, but I think I really was there for it
For a long time.
And why did you want it to end?
I just felt like it wasn't productive.
Like, the time that it was taking to film
And the turnaround, and then it was like six months later
The episode would air, it just felt...
And then you had to relive it all.
Yeah. And then it also just felt like
A slightly toxic environment at times.
Like, we weren't enjoying it.
-But you were nominated for best fight. -Mtv awards.
-Oh, on the mtv awards, yes. -Yeah. So that's impressive.
-I also have the most iconic quotes of all time. -Kris: There are good things.
Which is?
-Just all of them. -Yes. All of them.
-Yes. -Right. So, why is the show
Coming to an end if you're coming back on another platform?
I think that for all of us, when the... It was time
To make the decision because our contract was up for renewal.
-Andy: Yeah. -It was a decision, like,
Do we sign on for another three or five years, or...
-Yep. -And I think we were all feeling a little overwhelmed.
-We had done it for so long. -Yep.
When I discussed it with each one of the girls,
And then as a group, kim was somebody who said:
You know what, 20's a really nice, beautiful number.
-Andy: Right. -Why don't we do the last season
And see how we feel,
And, you know, I think it's about time.
Right. Stonkstodamoon tweeted...
-Going to the grocery store. -Really?
Yeah. My all-time.
I was gonna say grocery store and gas station.
Like, those just normal things.
Obviously, we could still do them, but...
I would say pre-paparazzi.
Like, the other things I can deal with,
And I am very personable, so I don't mind, really, people.
You have to be mentally prepared to, like,
Always talk and say hi to people,
But it's more the paparazzi, just everywhere you go,
Or if you're just with your kids,
-And you're just, like... Yeah. -The irony of that
Is that I remember talking to you once,
And you were talking to me about how badly you wanted
-To be famous before all this started. -Yeah. Yeah.
Did you used to call the paparazzi?
No, but I knew exactly where they were.
So if you wanted to be seen...
Anytime I would get hair and makeup for the show,
There was no way I was going home and washing it off.
I would stop off at robertson.
-I would stop off at the ivy to pick up something to go... -Right.
Even if it was, like, some bread to go.
-Anything. An empty bag. -Some bread to go at the ivy?
I would run in and pretend like, "did I leave my glasses here?"
Isn't that funny? Wow, really?
I think I can talk about it 'cause it's, like,
It's so funny, and just, I think people need to be
More honest about those moments in life
When you're just super desperate and want that.
I can't even remember a time...
-That's what I was gonna say, too. -Before we were famous.
I mean, I think the cool part about kylie and I
Starting so young is that it kind of all grew with us.
So it wasn't, like, an overnight thing
That really startled us or made us feel really uncomfortable.
It was really gradual.
Andy: Do you feel that the show
Would have had its massive initial success
Without the publicity that surrounded the sex tape?
Looking back, probably not.
I think that everything happens for a reason,
And I really try to, like, live like that.
And every time there's, like, something and a crazy scandal
That feels like you can't breathe
And how are you gonna get through this,
It always is a lesson.
Even if it's a private lesson,
Or even if it's just something
That we didn't know we had to go through...
Andy: Have you thought about the time that you're gonna have
To explain it to any of the kids?
-Absolutely. -Or have you had to explain it?
I haven't had to as of yet.
And luckily, I think that so many years have gone on
-And so many things have happened... -Yeah.
Um, positively, that it really erases that.
That is something that I have to live with
For the rest of my life.
That is something that's, like, being held over my head.
I try not to have any regrets,
But it's probably the one thing that I wish didn't exist,
And if I could erase any of the stupid things
That I've done in life, that's probably it.
And it's more so from being a mom than anything.
Andy: One of the raps
That you have all faced for years
Is that you are famous for being famous.
-I never got that. I don't... -Yeah. I think it was
Just something somebody said, and it stuck.
I think that when you think about it,
We're famous because we have a tv show.
-Andy: Right. -Just like anybody else who would be.
When we started doing our show, there was barely twitter.
I say this all the time. I remember when ryan called
And said, "you should tell kim about this thing called twitter
And tell her to get on twitter." and I'm like, "really?"
There was no instagram.
There was no snapchat and tiktok and all this stuff.
We were, like... Came along at a time
When it was the perfect storm.
But don't you guys remember having so many haters
Of our personal friends?
-Yeah, so many people... -Kourtney: Haters, like...
-Were your friends? -Kourtney: Our friends.
-Your friends. -Kourtney: Like, our-our close friends
Were such haters and so jealous.
Kim: If I was mature,
I would have wanted the annulment, too.
I wish I was only married once.
Kris, do you think you would have split up from your ex
-Were it not for the transition? -That's...
That's an interesting question.
Don't you guys remember having so many haters
Of our personal friends?
-Yeah, so many people... -Kourtney: Haters, like...
-Were your friends? -Kourtney: Our friends.
-Your friends. -Like, our-our close friends
Were such haters and so jealous.
Kris: I remember I heard that some of my girlfriends were...
That, you know, I don't really hang out with
-As much anymore, obviously. -Andy: Right.
But some of these girls were saying, "oh!
Her daughter was on a stripper pole."
And then I'm thinking, "did you watch the show?
-Or that's the only two seconds you saw?" -well, it's not even that.
So many people really alienated my mom and was like,
"oh, this so low-rent. She's on a reality show."
Like, and they really shunned you for a while.
And then, like, by season three or four,
They all want to now be invited
-To her things, and it's, you know... -Interesting.
Kendall: This is all reminding me, but I remember
Kids at school would even come up to me
And kind of, like, make fun of us.
Probably, uh, like,
They probably weren't even watching our show.
It was probably things their parents were saying.
-It would be their parents. Yeah. -And they were just following.
Well, kourtney, kim, khloe and kris,
You're all producers on the show,
But you're also subjects.
How does that work? Because in my mind,
The show is better, the more you let people in.
So is there a push-pull going on?
Everyone has to be comfortable
Talking about whatever we're film...
Like, whatever we're talking about on camera.
I would say the producer part comes in more in the editing.
If someone wants to just maybe take something out,
And then, you know, others...
Others of us are good at saying, "you know what?
This doesn't really matter."
Like, "I think people would really enjoy seeing that.
It tells the story better. I think you should put that in."
Is there something that you can remember
That was a point of contention
About whether to leave in or whether to take out?
I mean, I even think the fight between you guys.
If I didn't want to work my ass off
And I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom,
That's (bleep) fine, you (bleep) literal (bleep).
-Literally... -What the (bleep)
-Is wrong with you? -I will literally (bleep) you up.
Don't ever come at me like that. I'll punch you in your face.
-Do it already. -Don't (bleep) use your...
-Really? -Stop, you two.
Guys, stop!
-Don't ever (bleep)... -You guys, stop it!
-Khloe: So much of that... -That was... That was something
I didn't want to leave in, actually.
-Andy: You didn't want it in. -And at the end of the day,
Like we always do, we all decide that it's...
Well, and one day, out of all of filming,
We have an e! Representative come to set,
And that day an e! Representative was on set.
-Andy: What? Really? -During the fight.
-(laughs) -and it's like, out of all the things.
-And my mom wasn't there. -Run for cover.
And they were figh... And we were like...
-Kendall and I were just kind of in shock. -We thought
-It was a joke at first. -Khloe: I think we thought
They were joking at first.
And, so, they didn't want it shown,
-But also an e! Rep is there, and it's like... -Andy: Right.
-And they know it happened. -They know it happened.
-And it's... -Andy: Right. It's hard to put it back
-In the bottle sometimes. -Kris: Yeah.
Even our fight we didn't want to show.
-Oh, yeah. -What fight did you guys have?
-Kourtney: Palm springs. -Kylie: You know, palm s...
-The big fight. -Oh, yes.
Kylie: Kendall.
Oh, like you deserve the outfit more.
Kendall: It was for me. She literally offered it to me
-While we were laying... -Khloe: Kendall,
I have such a cute dress coming.
It's sheer. It's red.
Kylie: Whatever. You're a hater. You're not gonna ruin my (bleep) night.
-I'm having a good time. -Khloe: Hey, it's...
You ruined my (bleep) night, so I can do whatever the (bleep)
-I want to. -Khloe: No, I have the best dress
-Coming here, you guys. -♪ come on, baby. ♪
This sister night is turning into just catfights
-Left and right. -Kendall (over phone): No!
-(indistinct shouting) -corey: Stop! Stop! -What's happening?
-Do you want to come with us? -We have to go get kendall!
-Turn around, sir! -Khloe: Where are they?
-This is crazy. -Where are you guys?
(kendall and kylie shouting indistinctly)
Kris: I have no idea. We need to find her.
-Kim: Where are they? -Kendall: Where are you?
-Kourtney: Where's kendall? -They left in the other car.
Kourtney: No, we need to find them.
I think in the moment, you're thinking, oh, I'm...
We're never... I'm never gonna show this.
-Andy: Right. -Khloe: Yeah. -We kind of just...
We're very free. We let, you know, everything be filmed.
And in the moment you're like,
"I'm never gonna let this air on television."
But once those emotions go away and months pass,
You're like, "okay, I'm ready."
I'm... It doesn't bother me as much.
Well, then there's also the negative side
Where you kind of have to relive it.
'cause I even experienced that with our situation,
-And I'm sure you guys did, too. -Kendall and I fought again
-When it aired. -Yeah. We literally fought again.
-(kim laughs) -like, we get... You can...
-When-when it reairs? -Kendall: Right.
Well, not even reairs. When we ha...
When we watch it before it airs,
You kind of relive all those emotions
-And, like, that anger in a way. -Andy: Right. -And is...
And, like, is the story being told
-The right way? -The right way. Right.
Like, whose lens is it through?
'cause, you know, you drove off.
You took your mic off, but our mics were on,
So you're seeing, like, our pov, not really yours.
-So it's like, how do we... -You're hearing us literally through a phone,
So, like, you don't know...
This is very different from their fight,
'cause you didn't know exactly, like, what happened in our car,
Like, when it did happen, so...
And I would think you both have such different perceptions.
Yeah. Well, I mean, that's with any,
-I think, situation between two people. -Andy: Right.
But it's tough as a producer to find...
-Kendall: Right. Make it look... -...How do you narrate
-From a very nonbiased position? -What happened.
-Right. Exactly. -Andy: Okay, I want to switch gears.
There's a famous meme online that says,
"the devil works hard, but kris jenner works harder."
You know, people think you're some devilish mastermind,
Pulling all the strings, but is that what a manager does?
No. I think a manager
Is definitely somebody who organizes all the chaos,
You know, and-and tries to come up with some great ideas
-And-and work together and collab with the kids. -(mouthing)
-I don't think... Are you doing something behind my back? -No.
She just keeps looking at me
And s... Doing these weird faces,
-So I don't think it's helping. -Kendall: But I also think,
To that point, of you being "devilish,"
It's, like, really fun for social media.
But, like, in reality, I have so much respect for her
Because she deals with so much. Like, there's five of us.
There's always something going on.
-There's always something. -Every day, if not more.
Andy: Ashley from seattle said,
"what inspired you to become a momager?"
Kris: Well, I think it just evolved
From when we started filming the show,
And things happened really fast.
And we threw a lot of spaghetti at the walls,
But, you know, we figured it out.
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
There's a perception that you are the brains
Behind a lot of the stories that come out about the family.
We're all doing so much and so busy,
And there's so much going on.
I don't even know half the stories that come out,
-Let alone know who I would even call. -Andy: Uh-huh.
It bugs me when they say, like...
If something, like, really tragic happened
Or something really sad, and they're like,
"you know kris jenner was behind this."
Like, that stuff just is like, who would do that?
We're such a close family. Like, it's all love.
Kris: I think there's so much misconception
On so many things and how we are
And-and the, the relationship with all of us.
-We're actually just such a close... -Kendall: To the point
-Where it's very overwhelming. -Kim: But she doesn't know
-Half the stuff that's being said. -Kris: Yeah.
Which of the kids is the easiest to manage,
And who's the hardest to manage?
-Um... -Kylie: Good question.
-Khloe: Good question. -Good question. -Kris: Well,
-If I'm gonna be honest... -I already know the hardest.
If I'm gonna be honest...
Well, we only want pure honesty here.
-(all laugh) -kris: Okay.
I think kendall's the easiest.
-Okay. -Kris: She's also the kid--
When she was seven-- would put herself to bed every night
And say, "I'm done for the day, mommy.
-My room is clean." -I'm very, like, independent.
Who's the hardest? Who gives you the most lip?
-Kourtney. -Andy: Kourtney.
-Kris: Yeah. -And is that who you were gonna say, kourtney?
-You said, "I..." yes. -Yes. 'cause I don't want to do things
If it's not something I'm really into doing.
-Andy: Okay. -So, I...
My answer is, like, no to most things.
And if it's gonna be yes,
Like, I want to know every detail
Of what I'm gonna be asked of.
Andy: Tony from virginia said,
"do you actually take ten percent
"from every business deal the kids do?
Do you ever feel guilty taking a cut from them?"
I don't feel guilty because I work really hard,
And I think that I'm valuable to the deals that we do
And the businesses that we create.
Our mom works so hard,
And no one, especially at the beginning,
Would believe... Did believe in us
The way that our mom did.
Like, she really just knew that we can do all these things.
And my mom is giving us our careers
Or helping us navigate through that, and it's only fair
That she gets paid for that, and she does a good job.
Kris: I think that we all are happy
Working together, so... And I think,
If I'm not mistaken,
There's other managers out there that take a lot more.
Andy: You've all mentioned at various times on the show
That the amount of attention you receive from your mom
As a manager directly correlates to how much money you bring in.
-Oh, god. -Do you all feel that way?
My love for makeup started with my insecurity with my lips.
And I didn't ever think about it
Until I had one of my first kisses.
You've all mentioned at various times on the show
That the amount of attention you receive from your mom
As a manager directly correlates to how much money you bring in.
-Oh, god. -Do you all feel that way?
I think we're seriously joking.
-Okay. -Like, I think it did start...
But, I mean, it would also make sense.
If she's in the middle of a huge business deal
With one of you, that's...
Completely, and I think it first started
'cause kim was the first one
That was having all these really lucrative deals.
And kourtney and I were more so left
To the dash and smooch stores by ourselves
While they were out doing all these things, and so,
We knew it was a sensitive topic for my mom.
And we would almost just, like, do it
To screw with her a little bit.
And then kylie came around, and we-we saw that it... You know,
-There was something true. -Kourtney: That it was true.
Well, as the youngest of the family,
Kylie jenner's made a name
And a lip kit for herself that can't be denied.
So, kylie, how does it feel to have the title
"youngest self-made billionaire"?
I don't really think of myself as...
I don't wake up in the morning and look at myself in the mirror
Like, "good morning, self-made billionaire."
-You don't? I do. -(laughter)
But I mean, yeah, it's amazing.
You talked a lot about your lips
And insecurities around them.
Did that catapult you into the beauty industry?
For sure. I think my love for makeup started
With my insecurity with my lips, and...
And what was your insecurity about your lips?
I actual... I had really small lips.
-Okay. -And I didn't ever think about it
Until I had one of my first kisses,
And a guy said to me, "oh, my god, you're such a good kisser,
But you have such small lips," or something like that.
-Oh. -Kris: Aw.
-Wow. -And then, from then... From then on,
I felt... Unkissable.
-What? -You felt unkissable?
-That's amazing. -I had an insecurity
'cause this guy said
Something to me one time.
Then I got an obsession with makeup
Because I would overline my lips,
And it just made me feel confident.
We should name a lip kit after him.
I obviously don't think about it now.
-You should. -Seriously. -You should. You should do
-A collab. Yeah. Right. -(laughter)
Kylie, we followed a lot of your relationship with tyga
-On keeping up with the kardashians. -Yes.
How is your relationship with him today?
We're not friends, but we are okay.
If I see him out, or if I run into him anywhere,
You know, I always wish him well.
I have no bad feelings towards him.
Andy: Molly from san antonio, texas
Wants to know, "why didn't
We see travis on the show?"
I don't know. I guess he just...
Sometimes he didn't want to be filmed.
I never pressured him to be on the show.
-Um, you kept your pregnancy a secret... -Mm-hmm.
...Because why?
I shared so much of my life.
I was also really young when I got pregnant.
And it was just a lot for me, personally.
I didn't know how I would bring that to the public, too,
And have, you know, everyone's opinions.
I think it was just something
That I needed to go through by myself.
So I just decided to not even deal with that type of...
I think it wasn't that she was secretive
From her circle of friends, and...
Like, it was very joyous in our private life.
-I think it was the greatest decision you made. -Kylie: Yeah.
-You do? Why? -Right. And to the public. -Kendall: I really do.
I don't know. This is obviously a theory.
I've never been pregnant, and I'm sure
There's studies on this, but I think that the more at peace
You are when you are pregnant, that goes into your child.
And I think it's a reflection
Of even her daughter today and how, like,
Amazing and beautiful she is
Is just 'cause kylie was so at peace in her pregnancy.
And I am... I really do think it was, like, the best decision.
I do, too. I also think that it could get really heightened.
I mean, there were times when, like,
We would be driving and pregnant,
And paparazzi would almost crash into our cars...
-Kylie: Right. -...'cause they just wanted a picture.
Like, kylie really wanted to, I think,
Protect her safety, the baby,
Like, everything and have that just be a private moment.
How did you hide? You just stayed behind the gate
And didn't go out, or what?
I stayed in my house and around my neighborhood.
And then, towards the end, there would be helicopters every day.
-I couldn't even leave my... -Kourtney: At your house?
Yeah. I couldn't even go outside,
'cause they would be shooting all my deliveries.
I remember people thought it was a crib, but it was, like,
-This piece of furniture showing up at my house. -(kris laughs)
And it... They would...
It was crazy all day, so I just didn't even leave.
Andy: Wild. Do you think marriage is in the cards for you?
I'm not thinking about marriage right now,
But I would hope to get married one day.
Andy: Okay. Let's move on to the next topic.
Well, kim, as kris famously said,
You're doing amazing, sweetie.
Whether she's draping you in skims
Or freeing people from prison, kkw's journey
From entrepreneur to esquire is the gift that keeps on kimming.
-E-s-q. That's my goal. -So where are you in that?
I take the test again in June. I didn't pass it.
-Right. -So, um, california has, like, a 20% pass rate.
So I know... I'm confident that I will hopefully
Pass it this time, and then I have two years left.
There was a famous moment
Where you said you wouldn't buy kourtney a pair of shoes
Because you bought her a (bleep) career. Um...
-Um... -Kim: Yes.
-Oh, awesome. -Andy: Do you, uh... Do you
Resent that your siblings don't give you your due
For catapulting them to fame?
What people don't know is,
You said to me, "go. I'm gonna put you in a car.
-No one will find you. Just leave." -kris: Right.
-"and I'll take care of it." -andy: Wow.
Do you think you owe him an apology?
Absolutely.
Do you resent that your siblings
Don't give you your due
For catapulting them to fame?
No. Khloe and I talk about it a lot.
-(chuckles) -this was the journey that
I thought that I was gonna be on.
My mom was on board with me to try
To think about what show idea we were gonna do
And bring in the whole family.
And the one thing that I always was certain of is
That I'm ten times more boring in real life.
I think that people assume that I'm, like, super sexy
Or I'm wild, or I love to just get up and drink, and this, and
I knew that that wasn't me, and I was nothing
Without my sisters and my family.
And I knew that the show, that the real
Interesting stuff would be about my family.
And I know I needed them.
And so, I always was really well aware of that.
Andy: Have you ever explained
What-what happened with you and paris?
I think just when, like, everything started
To kind of blow up, it was just a little bit like,
-"what's happening?" -right.
And then, we just stopped talking, and
She did that interview about, like, something
That was negative to me and called my butt fat
Or, like, something gross or something. I don't know.
-Right. -Cottage cheese in the trash bag.
-(laughter) -uh...
Andy: Boy, you-you-you... You had access to that.
I was spaced out, too,
-And I just heard it on... -Andy: Right.
-Kourtney: It just came to me. -Kim: Um,
But we spoke afterwards and had a real,
Like, mature conversation about that.
And then I think, you know, we drifted for a while,
But we're super back cool, and I think that...
(whispers): "super back cool."
You know. My words.
Um, I think that, you know, I have a lot of respect.
She definitely put me on. Like, I'm never...
I will never, ever think that I'm, like, too good
Or to-to not know where, you know, I came from,
And understand that she was a big part
Of my career and my life.
And just being her best friend for so long,
Traveling the world with her.
I mean, I traveled to places I never thought
That I would go to and see things I never thought I would.
Like, she opened up my mind to a whole other world
That I'll always be so grateful for those experiences.
And we've talked about that, and we have,
Like, a really good relationship now.
-Andy: That's great. -Kim: Yeah.
So, you're now transitioning to become a lawyer.
Will you pull back on presenting yourself
So suggestively or sexually?
I thought about this, and then I thought, "you can do it all.
You can do whatever you want." like...
When... I remember going to the white house
One time, and I was like, "I just posted a bikini pic.
"I hope, you know, they're not looking at my instagram
While I'm, you know, in here."
-Andy: Right. -Kim: And then I thought,
"you know what? You got to be you." but I will say that--
I don't know-- there's something so freeing about feeling like,
"(bleep), I'm 40, and I-I look...
"I'm in the best shape of my life,
"and I want to post a bikini
Studying if I want to."
There's something powering about that,
But then there's also, like...
I also want to... Don't want to embarrass, you know, my kids
Or make them feel a way if they're in high school,
And I'm the embarrassing mom that's, like, posing,
You know, in selfies and in bikinis.
-There will be limits. -Andy: By the way,
Do any of you...? I mean, you all...
You all put yourselves out there suggestively. Is there...?
Do any of you think about changing that up?
-Or do you think...? -Khloe: I think we just do
What we're comfortable with. Like, there's a lot of things
That some might do that I'm not as comfortable showing,
But we do things, and I'm sure vice versa.
-Andy: Yeah. -So we just, I think, support each other
For what we do, but we also... We have group chats,
And we'll... Someone will...
-I'll send pictures sometimes to them. -"is this too much?"
-Kim: And I'll say, "guys." -and we keep saying,
-"is this too much?" -"is this picture too much?"
-Andy: Really? -Khloe: And kim will continuously send the photo
-On following days. -And do they ever say,
-"no, don't do it"? -Kim: Absolutely.
There was a photo I wanted to post
From my last trip, and, uh...
She sent it two days in a row, thinking we w-wouldn't remember
That it was the same photo from the day before.
-We would change our minds. -Andy: And it didn't...
And you listened to them?
I listened to them, but it's national
Peach day soon, and I was debating...
-No. It's not happening. -Kimberly, let it go!
-Kim, do not post the photo. -But here's the thing. I also...
Andy: I love it that you know that it's national peach day.
Kendall: The fact that you looked up national peach day just
-To get this photo out. -Kim: I know. I know...
Andy: I mean, is it national peach day or national
-Thirst trap day? -Kendall: Yeah.
-Both. On the same day. -That's what she said
She wanted to post was a thirst trap, and we're, like...
Now everyone's gonna want to see... Know this photo.
Well, before kanye, there was kim's famous
Ten-million-dollar wedding
To kris humphries that lasted
Almost as long as my last hangover-- 72 days.
Let's bring him out. Kris?
-Stop. Stop. I was gonna say. -Andy: Just kidding. Um...
-Kendall: Oh, my gosh. Could you imagine? -We loved him.
-Andy: Would you have liked that? -Khloe: Yeah.
-Andy: Yeah. -I would have died.
-He-he probably... Yeah. -I would love it.
That would be amazing.
-He probably what? -Kendall: I love
Uncomfortable, awkward encounters.
I don't know. I-I don't think he...
-Khloe: Please bring him out. -Andy: Yeah. Um...
-Khloe: Is he here? Go get him. -He wouldn't have come for sure.
So, who here thought
The marriage to kris was going to last?
-I kind of did. -Andy: You did? -(kim gasps)
-Really? -Well, no, looking back,
-Absolutely not. -Khloe: No, it's an omen.
Why on earth did you guys let me do that?
-Khloe: Do you not remember...? -Kris: Excuse me.
-Hello! I had... I came to her. -Khloe: You are the only one.
-So... -I was the only one... Do you not remember
The engagement party I hosted at my house,
And the speech I made saying how it's not gonna l...? I...
-Totally. Totally. But... -I mean, I'm the one that said...
-What did you say, kris? Did you...? -Oh, well,
So, the... It was the re... It was the night before.
-It was the r-rehearsal. -Andy: Yeah.
And I just went upstairs, and I said, "can I talk to you?"
And she said, "sure." and I said, "listen,
"if you really don't want to do this,
"I don't think you should do it.
"I think this could be a really bad idea, and if
-You want to get out of it..." -no, what you said to me is,
"go. I'm gonna put you in a car. No one will find you."
-Kris: Right. -"just leave, and-and I'll handle it."
-"and I'll take care of it." -andy: Wow.
And I thought, "okay."
-Get out of here. -Everyone...
"you know, we're filming this for a tv show.
"if I leave, I'm gonna be known as the runaway bride forever,
"and it's gonna be a huge joke,
And I think I just have cold feet."
So I was like, "okay, guys. It's just cold feet.
I got this. It's cold feet. We're filming a show."
And, you know, the show paid us,
Obviously, a fee to film the show.
I took my entire fee, and probably kris's,
'cause I wanted a bigger wedding
Than what they were gonna pay for.
So I used all of our production money on the wedding.
-Right. -So if that was, like, fake, I would have
Like, saved my money. Like, I wouldn't have, like...
-(chuckles) -andy: Would you say you partially went through
With the wedding because of the show?
-Yes. -You did?
I will say, because I felt like I was let...
-Pressure. -I felt pressured, and I felt like
Everyone was gonna... I was gonna let everyone down.
So in the first few weeks, were you thinking,
"oh, no, this is gonna go the distance"?
-Um, no. What happened was, -okay.
We get to Italy for our honeymoon,
And I was like, "(bleep).
-I think I made the wrong decision." -khloe: (bleep)
-Andy: Wow. -And then I went to new york,
And I was miserable, and I thought, "you know what?
If you have cold feet..."
For anyone out there listening,
If you have cold feet, it's not it.
Andy: The marriage to kris-- was there
One moment that made you say, "I have to end it now"?
The marriage to kris-- was there one moment that made you say,
"I have to end it now"?
He had a size, like, 17 shoe lined up around
My whole room, and I just freaked the (bleep) out.
-I literally got claustrophobic. -Andy: The shoes?
I was, like, just shoes everywhere.
-You were in a hotel. -Andy: The shoes did it?
-Kim: We were living in a hotel. -Khloe: The shoes.
-(laughter) -it was the shoes?
-It was the shoes. -Khloe: It was the shoes.
-Andy: Okay. It was the shoes. -Kim: I was so nervous
To break up with someone.
I handled it totally the wrong way.
I fully broke up with him in the worst way, and I couldn't...
I just didn't know how to deal.
-I learned so much from it. -Andy: Do you...?
Do you think you owe him an apology?
Absolutely. And I tried to.
I tried calling him for months. I mean, you know...
She saw him at the beverly hills hotel pregnant.
-He wouldn't say "hi" to her. -Kim: Oh, I had north
In my hand and my big, huge belly.
-I was about to give birth to saint. -Oh, my god, yes.
And I saw him, and all of his friends got up from the table.
We had the tables next to each other.
All of his friends got up and said "hi" to me,
And he just literally looked at me and,
Like, wouldn't even speak to me.
-Wow. -He's very faith-based.
And so, I'm sure he would've loved
To not have a marriage on his record.
He wanted an annulment. The only legal way
To get an annulment is if fraud is involved.
So he marked "fraud" to get an annulment.
And so the whole world wondered, "what is this fraud?"
-Andy: Right. -"did she marry me for a show to the public?"
And that is what I think people started to say,
"was this really fraudulent?"
Because that legally had to be written down.
-Andy: Right. -If I was mature,
I would've wanted the annulment, too.
I wish I was only married once.
Andy: We saw
Glimpses into your relationship with kanye over the seasons.
At what point in your friendship
Did you say, "I'm in love with this guy"?
I would say six months after my divorce with kris humphries,
I called kanye, and I was like,
"you're not even gonna call me to say I told you so?"
Like, you know, and he didn't.
And then we met up six months later.
And from that first night, I knew I was...
I knew it was over.
My-my marriage with kanye and my kids
Was, you know... Is so real and lots of love.
And that, to me, was, like, my first real marriage.
Andy: If I asked you, point-blank,
"why did your marriage not work,"
What would you attribute it to?
I honestly don't think I would even say it here on-on tv,
Um, but it was not, like, one specific thing
That happened on either part.
I think it was just a general difference of opinions
On a few things that led to this decision.
And, like, in no way would I want someone
To think that I didn't give it my all or not really try.
Um, you know, we have four kids.
There's nothing that, um,
I think parents would want more than to see,
Or even kids want more, than to see their parents together.
I grew up, and I-I lived that myself.
How is your relationship with him today?
We have an amazing co-parenting relationship, and
I-I respect him so much.
And-and I think we, um...
I think we'll have...
You know, that was my friend first.
First and foremost, for a long time.
So I-I can't see that going away.
I will forever be kanye's biggest fan.
He's the father of my kids.
Kanye will always be family.
Could you see yourself dating a non-celebrity?
-Yeah. Absolutely. -Andy: Yeah?
Just someone that's, you know,
I think would understand what this life is about, though.
But I think what I was looking for and who I was, you know,
Years ago is completely different than who I am today.
And I value privacy, and I just want something
That's, like, really real.
There are rumors that you're dating van jones.
-Oh, my gosh. -Van texted me and was like,
"this rumor has gotten me so many dates.
I'm so grateful. So I owe you."
Rumors that you're dating maluma.
No. I'm not dating either one. Not van jones, not maluma.
I-I've known him. I've seen him a few times.
Always in miami. Such a nice guy.
-So nice. -Andy: Okay. So, moving on.
You've all shared so much of your lives on the show.
Fans have fallen in love with your vulnerability.
Who do you think, kourtney,
Has handled fame the best and the worst?
I think kim handles it the best.
And I don't know. I feel like it gets to khloe.
Andy: Do you agree?
I feel like it's more recently.
I don't really know why that is. I'm...
I try to remember,
Like, what was the breaking point for me,
But I feel like maybe after years and years and years
Of being, like, this punching bag
Or personal attacks on the way I look or my body
Or how fat I am or how skinny I am
Or my face isn't good and, like, all these compar...
Like, I was, you know, open target for all that.
And I think 15 years of the same commentary
And narrative going on and on, I think it's just,
Like, there's only so much anyone can take.
So more recently was, like,
Really when I was like, "okay, I think I'm at my..."
But maybe, also, personal situations
That you've dealt with or just anything in your life,
Just as an outsider's perspective.
More of the rise of, like, more social media things
-And more filters and more apps. -Kendall: Yeah.
-Stuff like that. -But I also think you've been through
A lot of trauma, is what I'm saying,
So I think that that could also play into...
-Khloe: Mm-hmm. -Andy: Kim,
The robbery, I'm sure,
Changed your life and everybody's lives.
How has it affected
The way you live your life on a daily basis?
Um, I mean, just as far as jewelry,
If I'm wearing something, it's borrowed. It's fake.
No expensive items ever come to my home.
I have it all taken from security
Before I even enter my home.
I can't sleep if I have, like, jewelry in my safe
Or anything like that or money or anything at my house.
Like, I don't... I just don't live my life like that.
But on a positive note,
I'm a completely different person because of it
In the best way.
Like, I had to have the coolest car,
The best rims, the best outfit,
And I thought that I was the (bleep) because of that.
I thought that made me.
The things I valued before that happened
Were genuinely completely different than what I value now.
It's fun to get dressed up and all this here,
But, like, things don't make me.
But even as a sister...
Like, kim was obviously a great sister prior,
But this significant shift
In how she caters to her relationships
And the attentiveness that she now gives her family
As opposed to red carpets or things, and...
And, I mean, our relationship has significantly changed.
Khloe, in season 17,
You pointed out that in later seasons,
You shared a lot more of your personal life,
Uh, than kourtney, kendall, kylie and your mom did.
Do you feel like you carried the show
For the past few seasons?
I mean, there's been times
That I think maybe what I was going through...
Because you could also say, you know,
Kourtney and scott at the beginning.
They had... So much was about them,
But maybe there wasn't as much going on
In other people's lives.
But I will say that it's...
Sometimes kim and I have had this conversation really openly,
Is that we feel like we give so much,
And maybe others aren't holding up
Their end of the deal, too.
If-if other people are going through things
And are choosing not to share, that's when it's unfair.
But if there's really nothing else going on
In someone's life, what are they supposed to share?
Is there something that you can pinpoint
That someone else was going through
That you thought should be shared on the show?
Well, like kourt. Kourt.
But I think kourt learned from how much the public
Was in her relationship with scott.
It made her not want to share future dating relationships.
And we weren't even allowed to talk about it.
We're not saying to put him on,
But kourtney wouldn't even let us mention
Even though there's paparazzi photos.
So we were frustrated that we couldn't even talk
About what kourtney was doing.
Like, we weren't even allowed to talk about it.
We're not saying to put him on,
But kourtney wouldn't even let us mention
Even though there's paparazzi photos.
So we were frustrated that we couldn't even talk
-About what kourtney was doing. -Kim: I think it was just, like,
We never would want to make it seem
Like we're holding back or being fake on the show,
So if you see everything in paparazzi photos
-And then we're acting like... -Why isn't it on the show?
It's... We don't acknowledge it.
-You know? -Khloe: But if no one knew about it,
-Then we wouldn't make her film it. -Andy: Right.
But we felt frustrated that why do we have to share things
-And you can't if there's already paparazzi? -Andy: So...
So was that unfair, kourtney?
Did you get an unfair advantage?
Um, sure.
(chuckles): Whatever we'd like to call it, I don't mind.
Andy: Do you think your relationship with scott
Might have turned out differently
If you hadn't shared so much of it on television?
Probably, but I think everything happens for a reason.
That's what was meant to be, you know?
Andy: Kendall, in season 13,
We saw the toll that anxiety was taking on you.
Do you feel that fame is to blame for your anxiety?
I don't think it's to blame, because it's something
That I remember dealing with really young.
I think it was just something that I kind of had in me.
Um, but I think fame brought it to a new level,
Um, and I think the things that we all have to deal with
On a daily basis are not any... By any means normal or anything.
It's not normal the amount of stalkers
-That you have to deal with. -Right.
The energy and the environment that we're constantly put in,
Whether it be paparazzi,
I think it's always really high energy,
And for someone who's dealt with it
Since a really young kid,
Um, it definitely, like, heightens the experience.
There was a story that was going around
About you guys telling fake stories
To people in your circles
To see what was getting leaked
-So that you could kill the rat. -Kendall: Oh.
Andy: Is that true? Did that happen?
-Oh. -We sent people different photos.
I sent people different photos of north,
And one of them got out to tmz.
And it was not the right one.
So then you knew who had leaked it.
I knew by the few people,
But I still, out of that circle of the few...
-I wasn't smart enough. -Oh, you failed.
-I should've... I should've, like... -Oh, it was a fail.
-Andy: So you didn't drop them. -Kim: I know.
-Dang. -No. -No.
Wait, tell me the few. (chuckles)
-Kris: Yeah. -Kim: I'll tell you. -Andy: All right.
Well, kris, you started the series as a married woman,
But as your relationship status changed,
You've never been one to shy away
-From a gamble with love. -(chuckles)
Um, how long have you and corey been together now?
-Like, six years. -Andy: Wow.
-Yeah. -What do you think makes you work as a couple?
I think it's the chemistry.
It's the dynamic between the two of us.
And he's just a really great guy
Who brings a lot of joy to my life
And loves my kids, and it just works.
And we know a lot of the same people,
Which was really weird. Because I met him on, um...
I went to Spain with kim for 24 hours,
-And I met him while I was gone. -And me. That's fine.
-(andy laughs) -I was there, too.
And, um, I just feel like it was meant to be.
Andy: Kim, kourtney and khloe,
Why weren't you more accepting of corey
In the beginning of the relationship?
I actually was. Him and I were really, really close.
-Andy: You were? -Yeah.
Khloe: And for me, you know,
My mom just got out of a 24-year marriage,
And I think what happened
With cait and my mom was really surprising,
And I just wanted to make sure
My mom actually healed from that.
'cause my mom went from my dad to cait, and then...
You know, I just wanted to make sure
She didn't get hurt again like that.
So kim and I were definitely...
We interrogated the hell out of corey,
But we really love corey now.
And the fact that he put up with all of us is wild.
-(kris chuckles) -andy: Kris, do you have
Fond memories of your time on the show with your ex?
Yeah, I do. I think that we had a lot of really great years.
I think that everything, also, is meant to be,
And what was meant to be out of that relationship
Was kendall and kylie.
So without that, I wouldn't have
One-sixth and one-sixth of my heart sitting here.
And that, I'm so grateful for
And feel like it was such a blessing.
Hard question: Do you think you would have split up from your ex
Were it not for the transition?
That's...
That's an interesting question. I think so.
-I think so. -Kris: I think so. -Kendall: I think so, too.
-I think so, too. -Andy: You do?
-Yeah. -Did you know at that time
That caitlyn planned to transition?
No.
Andy: Have you forgiven caitlyn
For how she treated you after the divorce?
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Keeping up with the kardashians: The final curtain...
Scott, what's up with dating much younger women?
Everybody gets this wrong.
You tell 'em, scott.
It seems like you have consciously decided
To keep your relationship
-Out of the public eye. -Kendall: Yeah.
So, what's happening with you and devin booker?
Um... (chuckles)
When tristan first cheated on you,
How did you know it would be done again?
-Well, it was done again. -Why did you take him back?
I don't understand why someone would go through all that
If they weren't really serious.