Hello. I'm George Takei.
You know, people are always asking me about playing
Sulu on "Star Trek." Ooh!
George, George, George. Hold that "Star Trek" anecdote,
you're needed backstage.
Oh, no problem. Beam us up.
[Beam warbles]
Ohhh!
Impressive, right?
He's still got it. Let's start the show!
♪♪
Oh! Oh!
Oh-ho-ho! I ran. I ran. I ran.
Hello! Good evening.
You're all so welcome to the show.
We've got a great show for you tonight.
I tell you, I couldn't be more thrilled and fascinated
if I was Prince William looking at a basketball.
I mean...[Laughs]
Like, has he never seen one before?
He's like his godmother talking to a black person.
Eh -- That's --
[Applause]
"Oh!"
That's Kate and Wills. That's Kate and Wills
on their visit to Boston this week.
Some locals were pleased to see Wills at a basketball game,
though he wasn't the royal
they most wanted to see at a court in America.
[Laughter]
And --
[Applause]
[Grunts] Eh! The World Cup continues, yes.
Good. Yes. Can I just say, commiserations to Wales,
if there's anyone [mumbles]
But congratulations to England,
who are through to the next round. Yeah.
Did you see that one brave English fan
watching the game in Cardiff?
Look at that. [Laughs]
If you want to pay your respects,
her funeral's on Wednesday.
Yeah.
England's next game is against Senegal.
Could be interesting --
a bankrupt third-world country with a corrupt government
against the African champions.
You see? [Laughs]
Hey, let's get some guests on!
Later, we'll have music from Swedish rock sensations
First Aid Kit!
I love them.
But, first, it wouldn't be Christmas without a new cookbook
from this celebrity chef and campaigner.
It's the "One-Pan Wonder," Jamie Oliver!
[Cheers and applause]
Oh! Hello, sir.
Lovely to see you. I'm gonna hug you.
Kiss with hugging. Yeah, hug.
Hello! Have a seat, do.
She's the queen of "Strictly," an author,
and now presenter of the reality game show "The Traitors."
It's Claudia Winkleman!
[Cheers and applause]
Oh!
Whoo! Dazzling, dazzling.
Mwah! Mwah! Have a seat, do.
This man has lived long and prospered as Sulu
in the classic sci-fi hit "Star Trek."
Now he's bringing his new musical, "Allegiance,"
to the West End Stage.
It is none other than George Takei, everybody!
[Cheers and applause]
It's always a pleasure. Lovely to see you.
I'm hanging on to you for support.
You're doing good. Sit. Sit as fast as you can.
George Takei, everyone.
[Cheers and applause]
And she is the Oscar-nominated star of "The English Patient,"
"Four Weddings and a Funeral," and "Darkest Hour,"
now returning to our TV screens
in the spy thriller "Slow Horses,"
it's Kristin Scott Thomas!
[Cheers and applause]
Hello!
Mwah and mwah! Have a seat, do.
Hey!
Very good. Lovely to see you all.
And so welcome back, welcome back.
First-time welcome to George.
Hello.
And, now, Kristin, it's your first time on the sofa, I think.
I think so, because last time,
we were in funny little kind of chairs.
Pods. Yeah, pods. Pods.
Yeah, it was like pods.
But, no, now sofa, back.
And have we dragged you over from France to be here?
I -- No. Okay.
But tomorrow morning, at the crack of dawn,
I'm going to Belgium.
Oh, okay.Yes, I like to keep moving.
[Laughs] Always keeps moving.
But you don't live in Belgium.
No, no, no. I live in London.
Okay.Yeah.
Wow. She is like a spy.
I'm not surprised you're in a spy thriller, yeah.
Yeah, "I cannot tell you where I live."
And, George Takei, "Star Trek" legend.
But -- Yes. But -- He can still do it.
Live long and prosper.
Yeah. He can still do it.
But the weird thing is, you have a catchphrase,
and it's not that.
And then your catchphrase isn't even from "Star Trek."
No. It's from a shock jock named Howard Stern.
Yeah, yeah.
He's a dear friend and he's been a partner of ours, my husband,
Brad, in talking up equality for LGBT people.
And --[Cheers and applause]
But I had never met him
when I was first invited to do his show.
I was doing a play in New York, and when you're doing a play,
the publicist gives you your assignment. Yeah.
So I went to that address on Madison Avenue.
They asked me to wait on a couch sort of like this.
And they had the radio on.
And I was looking through magazines and I thought,
"That show that they have on is disgusting.
It's vile conversation."
So I said to the person sitting next to me waiting --
I said, "Why can't we have good music here?
This is terrible."
And she said, "That's the show we're waiting to go on."
And then, right on cue, the receptionist came,
ushered me into the studio.
I walked in, and there's this tall,
wild-haired, horn-rimmed-glassed guy.
And I said, "Good morning."
And he says, "You have a deep voice.
A voice like that must have a big dong below."
[Laughter]
I asked, "Are we on the air?"
And he said, "Yep."
And I said, "Oh, my!"
[Laughter]
And he had it on tape.
And so whether I'm there on the show or not,
when someone says something or does something outrageous,
he presses a button, and my voice comes on --
"Oh, my!"
[Laughter]
And it's become -- become my signature.
Oh, my!
I'm sure there was plenty of occasions to say
"oh, my" in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago, Claudia.
Yes, there is that. Yes.
I can't believe you brought up the B-word.
I do a dancing thing, and we all go to Blackpool.
And I'm just trying to explain it.
Yeah, I wouldn't.Okay.
[Laughter]
And we love going to Blackpool
because it's the world's greatest ballroom.
It's called the Tower Ballroom.
Mm-hmm. We all go up there.
There's gazillions of us.
We do this show and then we get pickled.
And I'm -- Pickled?
Yeah. Eh! Hammered. Oh.
I thought that's that sour cucumber that we --
Oh, yeah. We might also do that.
To be honest, we -- we can't remember a lot of it,
but we have a brilliant time. We end up doing the conga.
We're just so excited to be in Blackpool.
Yeah.
And, of course, on "Strictly" this weekend, mad,
'cause it's already been on tonight.
Yes. I apologize. And then the results
is tomorrow, I think.
Yeah. They all did very well.I don't even know.
I just turn up whenever I --
You know, I go, "Okay, I'm here with sandwiches."
Okay.
And Jamie Oliver is here. I can't believe this.
Is it true this is gonna be your 26th cookbook?
I believe so. Yeah.
Wow! That's amazing.
It's been a long time.That's amazing.
But I -- And --
And you limit yourself now, not just in recipes.
But, apparently, there is words you won't use in recipes.
Is that right? Yes. No, we --
Well, 'cause when I write books, I'm dyslexic,
so I have quite a relationship with the books
and how I put them together and numbers and words.
And then there were certain words
that didn't quite work in the culinary situation.
So I basically banned words.
And then I made the whole editorial team agree and sign
to never, ever use --
Now, some of them I understand, but there's a list of them.
This is the list of the banned words.
Now, moist -- I know --
I know what you mean, but some things --
some recipes should be moist.
They all have reason.
I'm not sure you -- I mean, do you ever need "crevice"?
No, crevice -- Well, yeah, because if you're stuffing,
like, a shoulder of lamb and you want to really get it
into the crevice, you say "crevice."
But "crevice" and "dinner" doesn't really work,
as does "rimming." Now, rimming is --
Rimming is really important in pastry work.
Is it? Yeah, 'cause you have to give it
a good rimming to get the pastry.
And then you bake the --We're in Blackpool again.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh, my!Takei: Oh, my!
[Laughter and applause]
Yeah.
Bad words. Alright, we're starting tonight
with Kristin Scott Thomas.
She returns in Season 2 of "Slow Horses."
It starts tonight, with new episodes
every Friday on Apple TV+.
I am so looking forward to this.
I was gushing to you out front.
I am a big fan of the show.
But if people hadn't seen the first season,
what did they miss? What do they need to know
going into Season 2?
Well, Gary Oldman plays a sort of --
a spy who's done unspeakable things
and has been relegated to a distant department,
which is still part of all the service,
but they kind of put them in a cupboard over there.
And anyone who does anything silly,
like leave a top secret file on a tray
or sleep with an ambassador's wife
or anything like that, you know, they get shoved --
That's a sort of sin bin, if you like. Yeah.
It's the sort of underbelly of spying.
Of course, I don't belong there.
No. [Laughs]No.
Actually, no, I'm at Regent's Park,
which is where the main thing happens.
Yeah.
And I'm sort of keeping an eye on them,
making sure they don't mess anything up again,
'cause they're always interfering with my plans.
I tell you what -- look, let's have a clip
of what to expect from Season 2.
I do not need the Slow Horses digging around the past.
♪ Except for the ring
♪ Of that truncheon thing
This feels too suspicious.
What does that actually mean?
Man: There's more to it.
Stay back!
There's been an alert.
It's a traitor -- right at the top.
And he has unfinished business.
♪ London calling to the faraway towns ♪
There is a plane packed with explosives.
♪ Now war is declared
Man #2: Thousands of people -- they're gonna die.
Man #3: Sometimes, the only way to work out
why a trap has been set is to walk into it.
♪♪
Ooh! Ooh, ooh! Ooh!
[Cheers and applause]
Doesn't that look good?
-Yeah. -Yeah.
And it's got --Oliver: Love that.
It's also got fantastic music.
Yeah, really good music.
The theme tune is fantastic.
No, it's fantastic. Yep.
And you don't do much TV.
Was -- was "Fleabag" the last bit of television you did?
Yes, I think it was. Yeah.
I did do quite a bit of television in my youth.
I haven't done very much recently.
And "Slow Horses" was irresistible. Yeah.
But "Fleabag" was also irresistible.
I mean, I'd been longing for that woman to call me
and ask me to do something, and she did.
And it was only one episode, but it made quite the impact.
Yes, it did. It did.
I'm -- Yes, I'm a reference.
Yeah. [Laughs]
You're a reference?
Yes, a menopause reference.
Anyway, let's celebrate that.
But, now, obviously, you were in the episode of "Fleabag"
and you did TV when you were young,
but this, I think, as a kind of a lead actor,
this is your first kind of foray into long-form television.
Yep. Yep.So, what's that like, coming from film to --
to this, episodic TV?
Well, it's very -- It's quite -- it's quite --
I find it quite challenging,
because I'm not in it all the time.
So it's a bit like being a new girl.
Every three weeks, you get to be a new girl again
and have to start again with everything.
And so, I go in and I shoot one day, and then it's goodbye.
And just as you're getting into a rhythm, you're whipped away,
and they've forgotten all about you.
And then you come back sort of six weeks later,
and it's start again. Yeah.
So it's quite -- it's quite tricky.
And you have to remember so many different plotlines
in your head, which is difficult for me.
And, also, I suppose it's trying to pace
your performance over six hours.
Yeah. And, also, then you're shooting --
you're shooting Episode 7, but then,
because you're in the same place, you're gonna shoot
Episode 1, but not necessarily in the right --
in that order, and a different order.
And then you'll do half of one and half of another.
And you're completely muddling.
'Cause, George, I mean, "Star Trek" --
basically, you were in it over a span of 30 years.
What's it like playing one character for that long?
Takei: Well, it's science fiction,
so unlike series television,
where you play the same character week after week,
in one episode, we might have been attacked
by a vibration that destroys our inhibition,
and we start acting out what we were trying to hide, all of us.
And so we get to play a whole totally different character.
Okay. And, Jamie, I know you're a big "Star Wars" fan.
Yep. "Star Trek" -- did it do it for you?
I loved it. Oh, did you?
Oh, good.No, I loved it to bits.
Used to watch it all the time as a kid.
It was exciting.
But the merch wasn't quite up there with "Star Wars."
I was into the merch, all the figures
and stuff like that, you know?
But, no, it's lots of memories as a kid.
I've eaten at your restaurants, too, and --
Have you? Oh! You're Italian.
Thank you.I love Italian food.
Oh, bless you. Well, we'll get you some more.
Come 'round. While you're here --
You gonna be here for a while?
I am, until April.I'll cook for you.
How about that? That will be a deal.We'll be there.
And, George, the conventions --
I know you're going to --
Are you going to a "Star Trek" convention this weekend?
Takei: Day after tomorrow.
Okay.Yes.
Where? In Telford.
They call it the Welsh convention,
but, apparently, there's something happened --
a reconstruction happening at the venue in Wales,
so they brought it over the border to Telford.
And so, "Star Trek" fans, I'll see you.
Live long and prosper.
[Laughter and applause]
Have you gone to loads of these conventions?
I do quite a few of them, yes.
Yeah. Wow!All over the world.
Yeah. Brazil, Germany,
Italy, Japan.
What happens there?
We talk about "Star Trek."
But, like, in a group? Like --
Well, we have questions and answers.Oh, in like -- Okay.
And we have autograph signing.
Yeah. And we have the --
the photos that we pose together, you know, like this.
Norton: Of course.
And, now, Kristin, I feel like a fool,
because it wasn't until Season 1 came out
that I'd heard about the books.Yep.
The "Slow Horses" books, which people love.
They love them.
I'd never heard of them, because I don't --
It's not really my thing, you know.
But, anyway, I was told,
"You've got to read these books."
But, you know, they're --
they're a stack of books this big.
So I started to listen to the -- to the audiobooks.
But, of course, that's a disaster, because what happens?
You know, after about -- It could be 20 seconds.
It could be two hours. You have no idea.
But, suddenly, you're asleep.
So I then had to, you know, really apply myself
and read these books, which are marvelous.
Mick Herron -- fantastic.
So, are there loads of these books?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.So, there's gonna be more --
There will be more "Slow Horses."
Perhaps.
No, I think it's been -- I think -- Hasn't it --
Has it been -- has it been announced?
It has.
No, I'm pretty sure that's out in the public world.
Is it? Yeah.
Unless you die in this season and no one told you.
No, I don't know. No, no, no, I don't die.
I know that.Well, then you're in it.
I'm not sure how many there are
or for how long it goes on for.
Okay. I thought I read somewhere that they've commissioned
two more seasons.
Have I made that up?
No. That's true. Yeah.
Yeah, let's just throw it out into the ether.
Yeah, let's manifest it.
Let's make it true.
It's a terrific show.
Just a reminder that "Slow Horses" continues on Apple TV+.
Very good. Okay.
[Cheers and applause]
Yeah. Yeah.
We move on to Claudia Winkleman's latest.
This is great.
It's a reality psychological game show called "The Traitors."
And it's stripped Tuesday to Thursday on BBC One.
If you haven't seen it yet, you can catch up on iPlayer.
And the reviews of this are great.
They are so good, because it is very hooky.
It's a Dutch format.
Tell us what goes on.
So, they asked me to do it, which was polite of them.
I mean, I must have been 51st on their list,
but I imagine -- You did turn it down.
No, I didn't. Yes, you did.
So did you, George. And Jamie and of course you.
Anyway, they said, "Would you like to do this show?
And you have to move to Scotland."
And I -- I mean, I don't travel anywhere.
And I said, "No, thank you. Thanks for asking.
Can't -- No can do."
And they said, "Will you just watch the Dutch version?
Just be open-minded."
They sent me it.
Those kids did not get fed.
I didn't brush my teeth.
I watched it, the Dutch version, like this, weeping.
I loved it so much, because it's a game of --
Every other game show is sort of about luck or about,
"Oh, yeah, I've got that bit of knowledge.
I remember I did ancient history.
I know this."
This is purely a game of charm, of nous, of being wily.
And, yeah, so I phoned up the boss and said,
"I'm getting the train. Please let me do it."
So, it's 22 people. They get to a castle
in Scotland.Yeah.
You choose three people to be the traitors.
Yes, they all come together, 22 people.
There's an awful lot of money they can win.
They win this money by, all together,
doing trials in the day, which is quite good,
when they don't have to think about,
"Who's a traitor, who's a faithful?"
Every night, they all come together.
They're allowed to banish somebody.
There are three traitors.
They can murder people at night.
Whoever's left gets the money, and if there is a traitor
left in their midst, they take it all.
And it's up to £120,000.
So, it's one of those shows, if you watch it,
it's the sort of show you will want
to talk to people about the next day.
"Did you see --" And we've got a little clip.
This is from next Tuesday's episode, Episode 4.
And there's an explosive revelation at breakfast.
Guys, guys, straight up, straight up, this is a lot.
Man: Yep.
Obviously, we've got three people on the line here,
and I'm gonna be honest, love you all.
Alex isn't a traitor, straight up.
She's my girlfriend.
We --What?
Yeah.What?!
We came in here as a couple,
but we came to try and find traitors.
What we tried to do is come apart separately,
hear whether -- individual stories
to combine them to then put a try --
try and spot out traitors.
She is a faithful 100%. I am faithful 100%.
What are you thinking about it?
To be honest with you, I do think Ivan is a traitor.
Ivan, I've been getting really close to you
because I actually think you are the traitor.
I think you're an incredible traitor, by the way.
10 points to Gryffindor.
Tom, Tom, you're barking up the wrong tree.
No, he is!No, no, no.
Tom, you lied to us for three days.
No, stop, stop.
You managed to lie to us for three days.
-Say something -- -Hear him out!
Oh, my God, man.
[Cheers and applause]
Ah! They're losing their minds.
They --
Can I just say, the duty of care is really good on this show.
They maybe were just like,
"Let's put them in a castle and make them not trust anyone."
But, Claudia, I love that, though,
'cause she looked shocked that he --
that she's his girlfriend. "You're my girlfriend."
"What?!"
She was like, "Don't do that,
because then you've just -- You're --
They're gonna come for us."
But now that you've seen it all --
I haven't -- I can't watch myself.
It's disgusting.No, but you've seen them.
But do you now know what makes someone good at this game?Yes.
And what makes someone good at this game?Charm.
Charm.I --
But lying -- lying must be a big part of being good at this game.
Lying is really good, and deception, yeah.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
No, 'cause I'm just thinking an actor would be very good
at this game, good at lying.
Yes. No.
Norton: Oh, you must be lying.
No, I'm terrible, terrible.
Really? Yeah.
You have to pay me. Then I'm good.
[Laughter]
There's money on the line here.Yeah.
No, but I can't think of anything --
Sorry.Yeah, go on.
I can't think of anything worse
than being involved in something like that.
It must be so stressful.It is stre--
Well, the other thing that's interesting is,
when you watch it unfold, you think, immediately,
"I'm just gonna be on the side of the faithful,
and I want them to get those naughty traitors out."
But your allegiances change. They go back again.
Because you actually respect great game play.
Yes.Listen, I'm obsessed.
I'm far too in. We can start a WhatsApp chat.
Yeah. If you watch it, I would genuinely --
I need to find people to talk about it with.
No, I'm with you. You watch it, you want to talk about it.
I'm like, "Ah --"
Jamie, you -- Chefs must lie all the time.
What do you -- What do you mean?
"Delicious!"
"Oh, yes, it's done.
Yes, it's meant to be like that."
Can I just ask you?
The special -- You know when you go to a restaurant?
Yeah. It's not special, right?
It's called "the special." That's the first lie.
"We have a special.
We have ox tongue with a little bit of baked beans
and some parsley."
Is it just stuff that you've got?
It can be utilizing leftovers and the whole meat
and being creative with carcass balance.
No, I mean, it should represent something special and --
and seasonal. Oh, good.
But, I mean, don't get me wrong.
The specials board can lie.
Norton: Yeah, yeah.
And, also, that -- "Oh, this is really easy."
I feel sometimes, that's a lie, as well.
"Anyone can do this."Depends on who's watching.
Yeah, yeah.It's quite subjective.
I love lying. I lie to my kids all the time.
Really?I mean, all -- Yes.
And, again, don't worry. They're not watching.
I lied for the first 12 years of my son's life, my eldest son.
He was like, "Mommy, have you found Nutella?"
I was like, "Do you know what?
I'm keeping my eyes peeled.
And the minute I find it, I'm gonna get a jar."
He was like, "Oh, fingers crossed."
I was like, "I am looking."
They still believe that iPads don't work
in residential properties.
I was like, "I didn't know why.
It's such a -- It's a malfunction, because
if they did work at home, of course we would have them.
They only work at the dentist."
And they were like, "It seems, like, so --"
And the little one is like,
"It's so elusive of the iPad that it doesn't work."
I'm like, "Yeah, go read a book."
But, now, hasn't your daughter got her own back, though,
with another big lie?This is bad.
Yeah, so, our daughter -- she's 16.
She was -- In lockdown, she was doing revising for her
GCSEs or whatever, and we had a parent-teacher meeting.
It was like eight months in.
The poor teacher's working so hard.
We were incredibly grateful.
We sat there. And she's super cute.
Obviously, I think she's super cute.
But she's, like, in bunches next to me.
And the head of VA said,
"Look, I know we shouldn't bring this up,
because Tilda says you guys are really embarrassed about it,
but we just have to say we are so sorry
about your lack of Wi-Fi."
[Laughter]
I was like, "Come again?"
Also, by the way, I do my Radio 2 show live
from the airing cupboard.
We've got full Wi-Fi, if nothing else.
And I just went, "I'm sorry?"
And like, "Tilda, can I have a word?"
For eight months, I was like, "Good luck in Double Maths."
She was like, "Uh-huh."
Doing, like, TikToks in her room.
Hadn't done anything. The biggest lie of all.
And also wrote, quite cleverly, in the e-mail,
"Please don't mention it to my parents,
because they're slightly embarrassed,
and the Wi-Fi is really dodgy.
And I don't want to tell them,
because they're home sorting three of us,
and I just want to be supportive.
So I'm going to --"So, what did you do?
Did you go along with it? Did you back her up?
Absolutely not. No.
[Laughter]
I'm not that good a liar.
I was like, "No, we have Wi-Fi.
We're okay." Tilda!
[Laughter]
Let's jump in. You can follow the fortunes
of the traitors on BBC One
Tuesday through Thursday evenings.
Very good. Now...
[Cheers and applause]
George Takei, you bring us a new musical.
I mean, you didn't see this coming.
You just thought, you know, "It'll be a film, a TV --"
No, it's a new musical. It's called "Allegiance."
It's at the Charing Cross Theatre
from the 7th of January to the 8th of April.
And this is a sort of --
So, this is based on an experience that your family had.
Well, 120,000 Japanese-Americans,
American citizens of Japanese ancestry.
Pearl Harbor was bombed by Japan.
Mm-hmm.And overnight, the rest --
Racism and war hysteria swept through the country.
We looked just like the people that bombed Pearl Harbor.
We were shout -- yelled at, spat at, called ugly names.
Graffitis were painted on businesses, homes.
My father's car had the letters J-A-P painted on it.
It was a horrible time.
And the government was swept up, as well.
With no charge, no trial, they came down with a curfew on us.
The next morning, when my father went to the bank
to make a deposit or a withdrawal,
our bank account was frozen.
Our money was taken over by the government.
Some families lost their entire life savings.
And then, on a fateful day, February 19th,
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a great president,
signed Executive Order 9066, which ordered all
Japanese-Americans on the West Coast,
approximately 120,000 of us, to be summarily rounded up
and imprisoned in 10 barbed-wire prison camps
in some of the most God awful places in the country.
Three layers of barbed-wire fence,
machine guns in the sentry towers,
and a half-a-dozen tanks intimidating and bullying --
Yeah. The tanks were vehicles of warfare.
And you were experiencing all this as a child.
And I read somewhere, later on,
you were talking to your father about it.
So things you remembered as a child --
Like, you remembered, when you were taken out of your house,
that you thought the neighbors were kind of waving goodbye,
lining the streets.
But that isn't what they were doing.
Oh, well, on that --
on that morning, my father came into our bedroom
that I shared with my brother, Henry.
He dresses hurriedly and told us to play in the living room
while our parents did some last-minute packing.
And there was nothing to do in the living room,
so we were standing by the front window,
just gazing out at the neighborhood,
when we suddenly saw two soldiers
marching up our driveway.
They carried rifles with shiny bayonets on them.
They stomped up the porch.
And our window was right by the steps.
They stomped across the porch and started banging on the door.
Henry and I were frozen.
My father came rushing out of the bedroom, answered the door.
They pointed the bayonet at my father and said,
"Get your family out."
My father gave us -- Henry and me --
boxes tied with twine to carry.
He hefted two heavy suitcases.Yeah.
And we followed him out onto the driveway
and we waited for our mother.
And when she emerged, escorted by the other soldier,
she had our baby sister in one arm,
a huge duffel bag in the other,
and tears were streaming down her cheek.
That -- The terror of that morning
is seared into my memory.
I will never -- I mean, that happened, now -- What?
Just about 80 years ago.
It's still there and vivid.
I can never forget that morning.
But now you've done this beautiful thing.
You've transformed it into a musical.
It's played on Broadway.
Now it's coming to London.
We've got a little taste.
This is you in that production with the Tony Award winner
Lea Salonga. Here we go.
Listen to Ojii-chan.
♪ Keiko look at page
♪ Paper very bad
♪ Now I look at Keiko, see how Keiko very sad ♪
♪ But paper also change
♪ I fold it up this way
♪♪
♪ A paper flower blossom
♪ Just like Kei
♪♪
Nothing blooms at Heart Mountain.
You want bet?
$2 say I make garden grow in hard ground.
You're on! Ha!
You gonna lose.
[Cheers and applause]
And --
I mean, it's such a beautiful way
to complete this horrible story.
And I just wonder, have your brother and sister --
did they come to see it on Broadway?
Oh, of course. Of course.
I mean, it must have been so weird for them
to see their memories onstage like that.
My baby sister, who's now a lady,
says she thinks she remembers, but she's not sure.
She thinks she remembers because we've told her,
our parents and me. Yeah.
But Henry doesn't remember too much either.
They went through that, but they were too young
to really be affected by it.
George, it's a fascinating story.
You can see George Takei's "Allegiance"
at the Charing Cross Theatre from the 7th of January.
Now...let's move on.
Jamie Oliver, with more to see,
brings us a new cookbook for Christmas.
And what's great about Jamie is, it's not just a book.
It's always a great idea.
And this year is no different.
So, Jamie, tell us all about "ONE."
Oh, well, this is a book devoted to your hatred of washing up.
[Cheers and applause]
Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah.
So, I've been trying for years to find the sweet spot,
and, clearly, I have.
But, yeah, I think just the idea,
especially now more than ever,
just time, not too many ingredients,
in one vessel, less washing up, cover all the bases --
breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, nibbles, hangovers --
hangover cures, sorry, not hangovers.
But, yeah, I mean, it's -- I'm still, you know,
plucking away, trying to be, you know, useful.
And there's dishes for everyone.
There's dishes -- Now, Claudia, are you a fussy eater?
I feel --Can I just say this?
I'm not just saying this 'cause I'm sitting next to you.
Your food is unbelievable.Bless.
And I love your videos on Instagram.
And I always -- Even stuff that I'm not sure,
like, "Get an apple, grate it, put it on some --
I don't know -- meringue."
Whatever you do, I want to do it.
So, I'm just saying --I'm not sure he's done that.
No, but you put up ribs this week. Yep.
And me and my husband were, "Oh, let's try and do that."
But I don't believe in aubergine.
Is there aubergine in there?
Yes. Yeah.
It's one of my favorite --Feast your eyes.
Yeah. Feast your eyes on --
What is that?Hasselback aubergine pie.
Yeah, man.No, guys, no.
I don't -- No.
Britain has a bad relationship with aubergines.
We don't really understand the beauty that is within them.
So, you know, my job is to give you
basically about 80% of what you want
and about 20% of what you didn't know you wanted yet.
Yeah. It's true.
And aubergine's definitely in that camp.
But it's amazing, 'cause it's not --
You don't just have to have it fried.
It can be, like, really soft and steamed.
Mulchy.And you can put any flavor you can imagine on it.
Yes. But you can make it tender.
You can make it crisp. Anyway --
The fact that it both happens at the same time,
so it's, like, fleshy but also hard.
Yeah.I'm like, "Ugh!"
It's all of those things.It, like, breaks science.
I don't -- I don't accept it.
But I will -- But "one pan" is genius.
Yes. Kristin, are you, like, Cordon Bleu, French chef?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But I do love to cook.
I do love to cook.French food.
Yes, I do like to cook French food,
but I find it very difficult to want to cook here.
Why? What's that -- What happened?
Well, because I can't find --
I don't like going to farmer's markets,
because the market is obviously a farmer, right?
Yeah.
So you have to go to a supermarket --
Is it the name that annoys you?
Yes, it does. It does.
It annoys me. I mean, you wouldn't say,
"No, I'm going to this really nice industrial market."
Would you? No. There's some amazing markets --
Because I can't find anything that doesn't come in a packet.
Yeah, well, the plastic problem --
That is a real problem.
And now, with this no sale-by date,
but you can't actually get to what you're buying
with no sale-by date,
so you don't know that it's completely had it
when you get it home and you open it.
So it's sort of -- I feel a campaign coming.
Yeah.I feel a campaign coming.
Yeah. And, weirdly, he's --
Isn't it funny how things change?
I had forgotten that in --
I think it was 2008 -- we all saw you, George,
eating all sorts on "I'm a Celebrity."
I'd forgotten you were on "I'm a Celebrity." You were top three.
Takei: Yeah.There you are.
I don't know what you're eating there.
You liked some of it, didn't you?
Oh, yes. Insects are delicious.
There, they were alive, skittering about.
That's less delicious.
So the challenging part was catching them.
And then, once you put it in your mouth,
you start chewing right away.
And it's crunchy and nut-like.
Cockroaches, grasshoppers.
Fresh enough for you, Kristin?
It was delicious.
No packaging there.
[Laughter]
The French are venturesome eaters.
Who would think of eating frog's legs
or all the other things that the French eat?
Snails -- delicious. Yeah.
If you love French food, you have to be venturesome.
In the jungles, we had to be venturesome to survive.
Yeah.That's my line.
I couldn't do that.Yes.
I couldn't do it.
You couldn't? No.
Oh, we're gonna eat a kangaroo's penis.
Like --No, you're right about that.
I would definitely throw up.I did it.
But no one -- Has anyone actually thrown up yet?
Yes, I think some -- As you said it, I had a memory.
I'm sure -- And, also,
because we could probably all eat kangaroo penis,
but you need to do something, like, you know,
sauté it in garlic or something.
Put it in one pan.Some aubergine.
Put it in one pan.
There's nothing more tasteless than kangaroo penis.
There's no taste.
You have a lot of experience?
It's leathery and thick, and you got to chew it.
Norton: I know.And it --
It's sort of a relief to know it's tasteless, though.
Totally, totally.
They could have, like, slow-cooked it or something.
Mm-hmm. Slow-cooked it.
Well, it's a lot of chewing, isn't it?
No, but there's no flavor to it.
Yeah.You'd have to add garlic.
I had something --Yeah.
Helps definitely with the penis.
I had a --Sometimes.
Say that again.It helps with the penis.
Oh, my! Oh, my, indeed.
Yeah.
[Laughter]
And -- And, Jamie,
we must mention your extraordinary campaigning,
the amount of energy you put into your campaigning.
And are you one of the very few people who met
Prime Minister Liz Truss?
No, no. I -- No, no.
I knew it would be quick innings.
I could feel it in my -- you know, in my heart.
No. No, I didn't.
But we kind of knew it wasn't gonna be great for child health,
because we'd been tracking her for about three years.
And we kind of know they move around
quite a lot in their jobs.
So I knew it wasn't gonna last very long.
And as we head towards --
But she did beat my expectations.
Really?
But as we head towards the Christmas holidays
and the Christmas school holidays, what are --
what are you hoping for?
We have a campaign at the moment where there is a gap between
the free-school-lunch kids and the universal-credit kids.
And it's about 800,000 children.
And they're from very challenged families, financially.
And they're very vulnerable.
And I've seen it, and I've worked in it,
and I've been in this area for 17 years.
And it is hard to take when you see it
and the pressure on the family.
We've recognized it for about four years.
And as we go into winter, as we go into cost of living,
I think we have to fix it, and no one wants to fix it
'cause there's a lot of problems.
But I just think when it comes to vulnerable kids
and how we treat them and how society treats them,
there is limits, and I think this is one.
So we don't believe it's really, really important.
It is really important. And good luck with the new book.
It's "ONE: Simple One-Pan Wonders,"
and that is out now. Jamie Oliver, everybody.
[Cheers and applause]
Okay, it is time for music.
These soulful Swedish sisters are back after five years
with a stunning new album, "Palomino."
Performing "Out of My Head," it is First Aid Kit!
[Cheers and applause]
♪♪
♪ Back in time, oh, I go wandering ♪
♪ Through the rooms of my mind ♪
♪ Every door that I've been closing ♪
♪ All the people that I have let down ♪
♪ On a river
♪ I'm floating down the stream ♪
♪ And back again
♪ Like a beggar
♪ On my knees
♪ Am I running out of time? ♪
Both: ♪ Stuck inside my dreaming
♪ Falling behind
♪ Running on low
♪ Does it matter now?
♪ Let me out
♪ Out of my mind
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪ Ooh, ooh
♪♪
♪ Words hung heavy upon my shoulders ♪
♪ Slowly drowning in the sound ♪
♪ Every door just flew open
♪ Praying I'd stay tethered to the ground ♪
♪ On a river
♪ I'm floating down the stream ♪
♪ And back again
♪ Like a prisoner
♪ Set me free
♪ Am I running out of time?
♪ Stuck inside my dreaming
♪ Falling behind
♪ Running on low
♪ Does it matter now?
♪ Let me out
♪ Out of my mind
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
Out of my head ♪
♪ Out of my mind
♪♪
♪ On a river
♪ I'm floating down the stream ♪
♪ And back again
♪ Like a beggar
♪ On my knees
♪ Am I running out of time?
♪ All my dreaming, all my trials ♪
♪ Where they'll lead, does it matter now? ♪
♪ Let me out
♪ Out of my mind
♪♪
♪ Stuck inside my dreaming
♪ Falling behind
♪ Running on low
♪ Does it matter now?
♪ Let me out
♪ Out of my mind
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪ Ooh, ooh
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪ Ooh, ooh
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪♪
♪ Ooh, ooh
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
♪ Ooh, ooh
♪ Out of my head
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh
[Cheers and applause]
Oh! Gorgeous!
First Aid Kit, everybody!
How beautiful was that?
Klara, Johanna, come on over, join us, do.
And big up the rest of the band, as well.
Come on over. Thank you so much.
That was beautiful.
Come in, have a sit-down.
There's champagne waiting for you.
Hello, hello, hello. Sit down, champagne.
More champagne.
Oh, thank you so much.
Now, there's room for all.
Thank you so much for that. Yes, cheers.
Cheers, ladies. Beautiful.
Absolutely gorgeous.
That is from the new album, "Palomino."
There you are. And there you are with some horses.
"Palomino." So, are you both big fans of horses?
No.
[Laughter]
I'm terrified, to be honest.
I mean, we like them from afar.
But that's you right beside a horse.
Yeah, I was terrified.She was.
We were by a cliff with aggressive horses.
No, they weren't aggressive.
They were. I was so scared.
I know you were really scared.
Why did you choose to call it "Palomino"
and then pose with horses?
Yeah, and they're not even palomino horses.
No, I wasn't gonna say that.
I wasn't going to push it further.
But, you know, no, they're not.
They're just some random horses.I know.
But well done for your art, for your art.
Thank you. Very good.
'Cause, Kristin, now, people think you like horses.
Why do people think --I can't stand horses.
I'm with you. No, 'cause I --
When I was, yes, a younger woman,
along with the champagne and cigarettes,
I got a lot of horses to ride in films.
One very, very good film called "The Horse Whisperer,"
and as I signed the contract, I thought, "Oh, God.
Might have to ride a horse."
Yeah, chances are, yeah. Yeah.
Actually, I really enjoyed that part of the --
I liked riding horses in America.
Is it easier in America or something?
Yes, it is.Is it really?
Yes. Yeah. Western style.
There you go. Yeah.Yeah.
You have a big saddle and you have huge stirrups
and -- Yeah.
Try horses in America. You'll love it there.
Okay, okay.
Okay, so, you don't like horses,
but I know that you really love dogs.
Now, so, who -- who owns this little guy?
[Laughter]
That's my baby. That's Pablo.
Pablo.Yeah.
He's the Spanish street dog.
He's new in your life?
I've had him for about four years.
Oh, okay.Yeah.
So, how did he get from Spain?
I found him on Facebook. And there was -- So --
Did he just friend you randomly?
And this was the picture, and it said,
"I'm so ugly, nobody wants me."
And then it was done. I had to have him.
And I think he's the most beautiful little man.
He is gorgeous.Yeah.
Is there something wrong with him?
Yes. Yes, there is.
I call him El Diablo.
Yes. Yeah. Pablo Diablo, yeah.
He's not a nice dog to most.
He's nice to me. He loves you.
He loves -- Like, the people he knows he loves,
but he's scared of strangers,
and, you know, probably for the --
you know, reasonable -- reasons, 'cause people have been --
He's probably had some stuff go on.
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Fair enough. Yes.
So, Pablo must be missing you,
'cause you're on tour right now, aren't you?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Oh! Aww, I miss him, yeah.
And so, how long -- Is the tour just here
or are you going other places?
Yeah, it's just -- It's UK.It's UK right now.
Yeah. Okay.
And I'm not gonna talk about it,
'cause I think it's all sold out, isn't it?
Pretty much. There's a few tickets left in Cardiff.
Yeah, Cardiff.
Cardiff.Stupid Cardiff.
They're all going to the "Star Trek" convention.
That's the problem.
May you live long and prosper.
[Laughter]
Well, listen, good luck with the rest of the tour.
And come on, Cardiff. Sell out.
Thank you so much for that gorgeous performance.
Johanna and Klara, First Aid Kit, everybody.
[Cheers and applause]
Right, that's nearly it.
Before we go, just time for a visit to the Big Red Chair.
This is your favorite part of the show, I know.
I have a vague memory of something
being really repulsive, some really repulsive story.
Really? That sounds so unlikely.
It's amazing.I find this whole thing really perplexing.
Well, bless --
The whole idea of coming -- Anyway -- Yeah.
No, but sometimes, they have brilliant stories.
Okay. And they're so nervous about being flipped,
and then they're not flipped and it's so magical.
Alright. Claudia, I hope --
I hope this doesn't disappoint you. Here we go.
Norton: Hello.Hello.
I have high hopes.Come on.
I have high hopes. What's your name?
I'm Sue. Sue. Lovely, Sue.
And where do you live, Sue?Sutton Coldfield.
Oh, Sutton Coldfield! Home of the anecdote.
And -- and what do you do in Sutton Coldfield, Sue?
Is your name Sue?Yes, it is, yeah.
Oh, it is. Good.
I'm a health-and-safety lawyer.
Ooh!
Come on, Sue. Give us the dirt.
You know why she's here.
[Laughter]
It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Yeah. You wearing a neck brace?
Yeah, you're not gonna get flipped.
[Laughter]
Okay, off you go with your story, Sue.
Well, this was a few years ago.
I went on holiday with the family,
and we decided to go to a water park for the day with the kids.
Good start.And as soon as you walk in,
there's these great big drop slides in front of you,
and the kids immediately wanted to go on those.
So, "Oh, okay. Better go now before the queues build up."
But it took us about an hour
to get to the top of these slides,
and there were hundreds of people around.
It was just massive, massive queues.
And I thought, "I've got to go first,
because, otherwise, I'm just not going to do it."
I'd psych myself out.
So, I'd read all the instructions, obviously,
and got on to the top of the --I love you.
I got to the top of the slide, and it said "cross your legs,"
which I did, and "cross your arms," which I did.
And the guy then said, "Wait for my signal."
"Okay." And I am a big screamer on the thrill rides.
So he said -- he said, "Right, wait for my signal.
Go!"
And I shut my eyes and opened my mouth and I screamed.
At the top of my voice, I was screaming.
And I was obviously flying down this ride.
It was so smooth, and there was water rushing down.
And it was just the most amazing ride.
And as my scream came to an end, as it petered out,
I could hear this voice in my ear saying, "Ma'am?
Ma'am, you need to push off if you want to enjoy this ride."
[Laughter]
Oh, you can walk, Sue.
You can walk.
Good, clean family fun.
That really is all we've got time for.
If you'd like to have a go in that Red Chair yourself
and tell your story, you can contact us
via our website at this very address.
Please say a huge thank-you to all of my guests tonight.
First Aid Kit!
Jamie Oliver!
Claudia Winkleman!
George Takei!
And Kristin Scott Thomas!
Join me next week with music from Olly Murs,
comedian Jack Whitehall, celebrity baker Nadiya Hussain,
national treasure Sir Lenny Henry,
and Oscar winner Kate Winslet. I'll see you then.
Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
♪♪
[Cheers and applause]