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Hello.
I'm George Takei.

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You know, people are always
asking me about playing

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Sulu on "Star Trek."
Ooh!

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George, George, George.
Hold that "Star Trek" anecdote,

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you're needed backstage.

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Oh, no problem.
Beam us up.

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[Beam warbles]

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Ohhh!

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Impressive, right?

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He's still got it.
Let's start the show!

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♪♪

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♪♪

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Oh! Oh!

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Oh-ho-ho!
I ran. I ran. I ran.

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Hello! Good evening.

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You're all so welcome
to the show.

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We've got a great show
for you tonight.

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I tell you, I couldn't be more
thrilled and fascinated

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if I was Prince William
looking at a basketball.

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I mean...[Laughs]

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Like, has he never seen one
before?

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He's like his godmother
talking to a black person.

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Eh -- That's --

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[Applause]

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"Oh!"

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That's Kate and Wills.
That's Kate and Wills

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on their visit to Boston
this week.

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Some locals were pleased to see
Wills at a basketball game,

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though he wasn't the royal

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they most wanted to see
at a court in America.

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[Laughter]

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And --

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[Applause]

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[Grunts] Eh!
The World Cup continues, yes.

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Good. Yes. Can I just say,
commiserations to Wales,

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if there's anyone [mumbles]

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But congratulations to England,

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who are through
to the next round. Yeah.

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Did you see that one brave
English fan

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watching the game in Cardiff?

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Look at that. [Laughs]

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If you want to pay
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her funeral's on Wednesday.

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Yeah.

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England's next game
is against Senegal.

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Could be interesting --

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a bankrupt third-world country
with a corrupt government

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against the African champions.

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You see? [Laughs]

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Hey, let's get some guests on!

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Later, we'll have music
from Swedish rock sensations

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First Aid Kit!

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I love them.

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But, first, it wouldn't be
Christmas without a new cookbook

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from this celebrity chef
and campaigner.

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It's the "One-Pan Wonder,"
Jamie Oliver!

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[Cheers and applause]

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Oh! Hello, sir.

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Lovely to see you.
I'm gonna hug you.

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I'm gonna hug you.
Kiss with hugging.
Yeah, hug.

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Hello!
Have a seat, do.

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She's the queen of "Strictly,"
an author,

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and now presenter of the reality
game show "The Traitors."

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It's Claudia Winkleman!

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[Cheers and applause]

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Oh!

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Whoo!
Dazzling, dazzling.

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Mwah! Mwah!
Have a seat, do.

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This man has lived long
and prospered as Sulu

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in the classic sci-fi hit
"Star Trek."

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Now he's bringing his
new musical, "Allegiance,"

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to the West End Stage.

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It is none other
than George Takei, everybody!

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[Cheers and applause]

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It's always a pleasure.
Lovely to see you.

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I'm hanging on to you
for support.

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You're doing good. Sit.
Sit as fast as you can.

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George Takei, everyone.

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[Cheers and applause]

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And she is the Oscar-nominated
star of "The English Patient,"

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"Four Weddings and a Funeral,"
and "Darkest Hour,"

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now returning
to our TV screens

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in the spy thriller
"Slow Horses,"

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it's Kristin Scott Thomas!

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[Cheers and applause]

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Hello!

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Mwah and mwah!
Have a seat, do.

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Hey!

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Very good.
Lovely to see you all.

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And so welcome back,
welcome back.

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First-time welcome
to George.

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Hello.

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And, now, Kristin, it's your
first time on the sofa, I think.

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I think so, because last time,

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we were in funny
little kind of chairs.

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Pods. Yeah, pods.
Pods.

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Yeah, it was like pods.

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But, no, now sofa, back.

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And have we dragged you
over from France to be here?

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I -- No.
Okay.

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But tomorrow morning,
at the crack of dawn,

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I'm going to Belgium.

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Oh, okay.Yes, I like to keep moving.

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[Laughs]
Always keeps moving.

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But you don't live
in Belgium.

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No, no, no.
I live in London.

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Okay.Yeah.

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Wow.
She is like a spy.

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I'm not surprised you're
in a spy thriller, yeah.

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Yeah, "I cannot tell you
where I live."

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And, George Takei,
"Star Trek" legend.

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But -- Yes.
But -- He can still do it.

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Live long and prosper.

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Yeah.
He can still do it.

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But the weird thing is,
you have a catchphrase,

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and it's not that.

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And then your catchphrase
isn't even from "Star Trek."

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No. It's from a shock jock
named Howard Stern.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He's a dear friend and he's been
a partner of ours, my husband,

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Brad, in talking up
equality for LGBT people.

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And --[Cheers and applause]

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But I had never met him

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when I was first invited
to do his show.

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I was doing a play in New York,
and when you're doing a play,

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the publicist gives you
your assignment.
Yeah.

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So I went to that address
on Madison Avenue.

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They asked me to wait
on a couch sort of like this.

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And they had the radio on.

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And I was looking through
magazines and I thought,

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"That show that they have on
is disgusting.

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It's vile conversation."

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So I said to the person
sitting next to me waiting --

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I said, "Why can't we have
good music here?

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This is terrible."

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And she said, "That's the show
we're waiting to go on."

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And then, right on cue,
the receptionist came,

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ushered me into the studio.

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I walked in,
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wild-haired,
horn-rimmed-glassed guy.

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And I said, "Good morning."

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And he says,
"You have a deep voice.

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A voice like that must have
a big dong below."

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[Laughter]

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I asked, "Are we on the air?"

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And he said, "Yep."

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And I said, "Oh, my!"

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[Laughter]

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And he had it on tape.

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And so whether I'm there
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when someone says something
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he presses a button,
and my voice comes on --

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"Oh, my!"

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[Laughter]

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And it's become --
become my signature.

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Oh, my!

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I'm sure there was plenty
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"oh, my" in Blackpool
a couple of weeks ago, Claudia.

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Yes, there is that.
Yes.

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I can't believe you brought up
the B-word.

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I do a dancing thing,
and we all go to Blackpool.

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And I'm just trying
to explain it.

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Yeah, I wouldn't.Okay.

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[Laughter]

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And we love
going to Blackpool

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because it's the world's
greatest ballroom.

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It's called
the Tower Ballroom.

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Mm-hmm.
We all go up there.

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There's gazillions of us.

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We do this show
and then we get pickled.

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And I'm --
Pickled?

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Yeah. Eh!
Hammered.
Oh.

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I thought that's that
sour cucumber that we --

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Oh, yeah.
We might also do that.

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To be honest, we --
we can't remember a lot of it,

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but we have a brilliant time.
We end up doing the conga.

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We're just so excited
to be in Blackpool.

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Yeah.

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And, of course, on "Strictly"
this weekend, mad,

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'cause it's already been
on tonight.

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Yes. I apologize.
And then the results

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is tomorrow, I think.

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Yeah. They all did very well.I don't even know.

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I just turn up
whenever I --

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You know, I go, "Okay,
I'm here with sandwiches."

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Okay.

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And Jamie Oliver is here.
I can't believe this.

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Is it true this is gonna
be your 26th cookbook?

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I believe so.
Yeah.

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Wow!
That's amazing.

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It's been a long time.That's amazing.

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But I --
And --

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And you limit yourself now,
not just in recipes.

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But, apparently, there is words
you won't use in recipes.

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Is that right?
Yes. No, we --

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Well, 'cause when I write books,
I'm dyslexic,

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so I have quite a relationship
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and how I put them together
and numbers and words.

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And then there were
certain words

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that didn't quite work
in the culinary situation.

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So I basically banned words.

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And then I made the whole
editorial team agree and sign

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to never, ever use --

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Now, some of them I understand,
but there's a list of them.

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This is the list
of the banned words.

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Now, moist -- I know --

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I know what you mean,
but some things --

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some recipes should be moist.

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They all have reason.

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I'm not sure you -- I mean,
do you ever need "crevice"?

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No, crevice -- Well, yeah,
because if you're stuffing,

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like, a shoulder of lamb
and you want to really get it

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into the crevice,
you say "crevice."

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But "crevice" and "dinner"
doesn't really work,

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as does "rimming."
Now, rimming is --

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Rimming is really important
in pastry work.

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Is it?
Yeah, 'cause you have
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a good rimming
to get the pastry.

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And then you bake the --We're in Blackpool again.

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That's all I'm saying.

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Oh, my!Takei: Oh, my!

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[Laughter and applause]

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Yeah.

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Bad words.
Alright, we're starting tonight

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with Kristin Scott Thomas.

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She returns in Season 2 of
"Slow Horses."

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It starts tonight,
with new episodes

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every Friday on Apple TV+.

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I am so looking forward
to this.

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I was gushing to you
out front.

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I am a big fan of the show.

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But if people hadn't seen
the first season,

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what did they miss?
What do they need to know

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going into Season 2?

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Well, Gary Oldman
plays a sort of --

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a spy who's done
unspeakable things

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and has been relegated
to a distant department,

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which is still part
of all the service,

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but they kind of put them
in a cupboard over there.

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And anyone who does
anything silly,

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like leave a top secret file
on a tray

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or sleep with
an ambassador's wife

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or anything like that,
you know, they get shoved --

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That's a sort of sin bin,
if you like.
Yeah.

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It's the sort of underbelly
of spying.

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Of course,
I don't belong there.

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No. [Laughs]No.

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Actually, no,
I'm at Regent's Park,

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which is where
the main thing happens.

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Yeah.

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And I'm sort of keeping
an eye on them,

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making sure they don't
mess anything up again,

253
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'cause they're always
interfering with my plans.

254
00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,480
I tell you what -- look,
let's have a clip

255
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of what to expect
from Season 2.

256
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I do not need the Slow Horses
digging around the past.

257
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♪ Except for the ring

258
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♪ Of that truncheon thing

259
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This feels too suspicious.

260
00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,720
What does that actually mean?

261
00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,000
Man: There's more to it.

262
00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,520
Stay back!

263
00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,160
There's been an alert.

264
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It's a traitor --
right at the top.

265
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And he has unfinished
business.

266
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♪ London calling
to the faraway towns ♪

267
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There is a plane packed
with explosives.

268
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♪ Now war is declared

269
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Man #2: Thousands of people --
they're gonna die.

270
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Man #3: Sometimes, the only way
to work out

271
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why a trap has been set
is to walk into it.

272
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♪♪

273
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Ooh! Ooh, ooh!
Ooh!

274
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[Cheers and applause]

275
00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,360
Doesn't that
look good?

276
00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,840
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

277
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And it's got --Oliver: Love that.

278
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It's also got fantastic music.

279
00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,920
Yeah, really good music.

280
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The theme tune is fantastic.

281
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No, it's fantastic.
Yep.

282
00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,280
And you don't do much TV.

283
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,280
Was -- was "Fleabag" the last
bit of television you did?

284
00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,760
Yes, I think it was.
Yeah.

285
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,640
I did do quite a bit
of television in my youth.

286
00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,560
I haven't done very much
recently.

287
00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:14,920
And "Slow Horses"
was irresistible.
Yeah.

288
00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160
But "Fleabag"
was also irresistible.

289
00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,200
I mean, I'd been longing for
that woman to call me

290
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,920
and ask me to do something,
and she did.

291
00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,920
And it was only one episode,
but it made quite the impact.

292
00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,640
Yes, it did.
It did.

293
00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,440
I'm --
Yes, I'm a reference.

294
00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:29,760
Yeah.
[Laughs]

295
00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,760
You're a reference?

296
00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,800
Yes, a menopause reference.

297
00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,640
Anyway, let's celebrate that.

298
00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,080
But, now, obviously, you were
in the episode of "Fleabag"

299
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000
and you did TV
when you were young,

300
00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360
but this, I think,
as a kind of a lead actor,

301
00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,360
this is your first kind of foray
into long-form television.

302
00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,480
Yep. Yep.So, what's that like,
coming from film to --

303
00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,080
to this, episodic TV?

304
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,880
Well, it's very --
It's quite -- it's quite --

305
00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,120
I find it quite challenging,

306
00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,880
because I'm not in it
all the time.

307
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200
So it's a bit like being
a new girl.

308
00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,640
Every three weeks, you get
to be a new girl again

309
00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,520
and have to start again
with everything.

310
00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,440
And so, I go in and I shoot
one day, and then it's goodbye.

311
00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,800
And just as you're getting into
a rhythm, you're whipped away,

312
00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,320
and they've forgotten
all about you.

313
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,040
And then you come back sort of
six weeks later,

314
00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,880
and it's start again.
Yeah.

315
00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,320
So it's quite --
it's quite tricky.

316
00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,320
And you have to remember so many
different plotlines

317
00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,040
in your head,
which is difficult for me.

318
00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,640
And, also, I suppose it's trying
to pace

319
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,400
your performance
over six hours.

320
00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,120
Yeah. And, also,
then you're shooting --

321
00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,040
you're shooting Episode 7,
but then,

322
00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,400
because you're in the same
place, you're gonna shoot

323
00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,200
Episode 1, but not necessarily
in the right --

324
00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,240
in that order,
and a different order.

325
00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,040
And then you'll do half of one
and half of another.

326
00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,040
And you're
completely muddling.

327
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,240
'Cause, George, I mean,
"Star Trek" --

328
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,640
basically, you were in it
over a span of 30 years.

329
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,960
What's it like playing
one character for that long?

330
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,600
Takei: Well,
it's science fiction,

331
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so unlike series television,

332
00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,840
where you play the same
character week after week,

333
00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,760
in one episode,
we might have been attacked

334
00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,840
by a vibration
that destroys our inhibition,

335
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:17,360
and we start acting out what we
were trying to hide, all of us.

336
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,240
And so we get to play a whole
totally different character.

337
00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,720
Okay. And, Jamie, I know
you're a big "Star Wars" fan.

338
00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,680
Yep.
"Star Trek" --
did it do it for you?

339
00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,920
I loved it.
Oh, did you?

340
00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,680
Oh, good.No, I loved it to bits.

341
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,320
Used to watch it all the time
as a kid.

342
00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,480
It was exciting.

343
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,040
But the merch wasn't quite up
there with "Star Wars."

344
00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,360
I was into the merch,
all the figures

345
00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,280
and stuff like that,
you know?

346
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,720
But, no, it's lots of memories
as a kid.

347
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,600
I've eaten at your restaurants,
too, and --

348
00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,520
Have you?
Oh! You're Italian.

349
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,160
Thank you.I love Italian food.

350
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,440
Oh, bless you.
Well, we'll get you some more.

351
00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:50,880
Come 'round.
While you're here --

352
00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,360
You gonna be here
for a while?

353
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960
I am, until April.I'll cook for you.

354
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,360
How about that?
That will be a deal.We'll be there.

355
00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,720
And, George,
the conventions --

356
00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,360
I know you're going to --

357
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,440
Are you going to a "Star Trek"
convention this weekend?

358
00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:03,600
Takei:
Day after tomorrow.

359
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,840
Okay.Yes.

360
00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,920
Where?
In Telford.

361
00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,200
They call it
the Welsh convention,

362
00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,280
but, apparently,
there's something happened --

363
00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,680
a reconstruction happening
at the venue in Wales,

364
00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,120
so they brought it
over the border to Telford.

365
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,280
And so, "Star Trek" fans,
I'll see you.

366
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,520
Live long and prosper.

367
00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,680
[Laughter and applause]

368
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,120
Have you gone to loads
of these conventions?

369
00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,960
I do quite a few of them,
yes.

370
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,760
Yeah. Wow!All over the world.

371
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,800
Yeah.
Brazil, Germany,

372
00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,920
Italy, Japan.

373
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,880
What happens there?

374
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,640
We talk about "Star Trek."

375
00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,920
But, like, in a group?
Like --

376
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680
Well, we have
questions and answers.Oh, in like -- Okay.

377
00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,120
And we have
autograph signing.

378
00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,480
Yeah.
And we have the --

379
00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,080
the photos that we pose
together, you know, like this.

380
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,040
Norton: Of course.

381
00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,680
And, now, Kristin,
I feel like a fool,

382
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,560
because it wasn't until
Season 1 came out

383
00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360
that I'd heard about
the books.Yep.

384
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920
The "Slow Horses" books,
which people love.

385
00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,320
They love them.

386
00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,840
I'd never heard of them,
because I don't --

387
00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,360
It's not really my thing,
you know.

388
00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,600
But, anyway, I was told,

389
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,720
"You've got to read
these books."

390
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,920
But, you know, they're --

391
00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,280
they're a stack of books
this big.

392
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,120
So I started to listen to the --
to the audiobooks.

393
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,400
But, of course, that's a
disaster, because what happens?

394
00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,400
You know, after about --
It could be 20 seconds.

395
00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320
It could be two hours.
You have no idea.

396
00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,520
But, suddenly, you're asleep.

397
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,920
So I then had to, you know,
really apply myself

398
00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,560
and read these books,
which are marvelous.

399
00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,080
Mick Herron -- fantastic.

400
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,560
So, are there loads
of these books?

401
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.So, there's gonna be more --

402
00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,360
There will be more
"Slow Horses."

403
00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,000
Perhaps.

404
00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,320
No, I think it's been --
I think -- Hasn't it --

405
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,080
Has it been --
has it been announced?

406
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,600
It has.

407
00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,440
No, I'm pretty sure that's out
in the public world.

408
00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,120
Is it?
Yeah.

409
00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,320
Unless you die in this season
and no one told you.

410
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,480
No, I don't know.
No, no, no, I don't die.

411
00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,360
I know that.Well, then you're in it.

412
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,440
I'm not sure how many
there are

413
00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,400
or for how long
it goes on for.

414
00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,200
Okay. I thought I read somewhere
that they've commissioned

415
00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,520
two more seasons.

416
00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,760
Have I made that up?

417
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,280
No. That's true.
Yeah.

418
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,600
Yeah, let's just throw it
out into the ether.

419
00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,280
Yeah, let's manifest it.

420
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,200
Let's make it true.

421
00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,840
It's a terrific show.

422
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,560
Just a reminder that "Slow
Horses" continues on Apple TV+.

423
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,360
Very good. Okay.

424
00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,400
[Cheers and applause]

425
00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,520
Yeah. Yeah.

426
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,520
We move on to
Claudia Winkleman's latest.

427
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,240
This is great.

428
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,040
It's a reality psychological
game show called "The Traitors."

429
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,480
And it's stripped Tuesday
to Thursday on BBC One.

430
00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,280
If you haven't seen it yet,
you can catch up on iPlayer.

431
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,440
And the reviews of this
are great.

432
00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,840
They are so good,
because it is very hooky.

433
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,080
It's a Dutch format.

434
00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,880
Tell us what goes on.

435
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,800
So, they asked me to do it,
which was polite of them.

436
00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,080
I mean, I must have been 51st
on their list,

437
00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,040
but I imagine --
You did turn it down.

438
00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,600
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.

439
00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,960
So did you, George.
And Jamie and of course you.

440
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,360
Anyway, they said,
"Would you like to do this show?

441
00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,960
And you have to move
to Scotland."

442
00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:09,400
And I -- I mean,
I don't travel anywhere.

443
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,440
And I said, "No, thank you.
Thanks for asking.

444
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,400
Can't -- No can do."

445
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,319
And they said, "Will you just
watch the Dutch version?

446
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,200
Just be open-minded."

447
00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:18,680
They sent me it.

448
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,200
Those kids did not get fed.

449
00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:21,839
I didn't brush my teeth.

450
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,920
I watched it, the Dutch version,
like this, weeping.

451
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,160
I loved it so much,
because it's a game of --

452
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560
Every other game show
is sort of about luck or about,

453
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,000
"Oh, yeah,
I've got that bit of knowledge.

454
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,480
I remember
I did ancient history.

455
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,480
I know this."

456
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,880
This is purely a game of charm,
of nous, of being wily.

457
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,400
And, yeah, so I phoned up
the boss and said,

458
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,960
"I'm getting the train.
Please let me do it."

459
00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,960
So, it's 22 people.
They get to a castle

460
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,400
in Scotland.Yeah.

461
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,600
You choose three people
to be the traitors.

462
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,360
Yes, they all come together,
22 people.

463
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,680
There's an awful lot of money
they can win.

464
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,640
They win this money by,
all together,

465
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,920
doing trials in the day,
which is quite good,

466
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,240
when they don't have
to think about,

467
00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,240
"Who's a traitor,
who's a faithful?"

468
00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,880
Every night,
they all come together.

469
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,640
They're allowed to banish
somebody.

470
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,880
There are three traitors.

471
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,800
They can murder people
at night.

472
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,240
Whoever's left gets the money,
and if there is a traitor

473
00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,240
left in their midst,
they take it all.

474
00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,160
And it's up to £120,000.

475
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,840
So, it's one of those shows,
if you watch it,

476
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,040
it's the sort of show
you will want

477
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,880
to talk to people
about the next day.

478
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,600
"Did you see --"
And we've got a little clip.

479
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,640
This is from next Tuesday's
episode, Episode 4.

480
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,040
And there's an explosive
revelation at breakfast.

481
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,240
Guys, guys, straight up,
straight up, this is a lot.

482
00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:38,920
Man: Yep.

483
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,000
Obviously, we've got
three people on the line here,

484
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,480
and I'm gonna be honest,
love you all.

485
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,320
Alex isn't a traitor,
straight up.

486
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,440
She's my girlfriend.

487
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,440
We --What?

488
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,560
Yeah.What?!

489
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,920
We came in here as a couple,

490
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,120
but we came to try
and find traitors.

491
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,120
What we tried to do
is come apart separately,

492
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,080
hear whether --
individual stories

493
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,320
to combine them
to then put a try --

494
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,240
try and spot out traitors.

495
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,880
She is a faithful 100%.
I am faithful 100%.

496
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,680
What are you thinking
about it?

497
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,920
To be honest with you,
I do think Ivan is a traitor.

498
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,560
Ivan, I've been getting
really close to you

499
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,040
because I actually think
you are the traitor.

500
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,440
I think you're an incredible
traitor, by the way.

501
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,960
10 points to Gryffindor.

502
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,760
Tom, Tom, you're barking up
the wrong tree.

503
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,120
No, he is!No, no, no.

504
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,280
Tom, you lied to us
for three days.

505
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,640
No, stop, stop.

506
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,840
You managed to lie to us
for three days.

507
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,240
-Say something --
-Hear him out!

508
00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:25,800
Oh, my God, man.

509
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,800
[Cheers and applause]

510
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,880
Ah!
They're losing their minds.

511
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,600
They --

512
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,560
Can I just say, the duty of care
is really good on this show.

513
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,400
They maybe were just like,

514
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,320
"Let's put them in a castle
and make them not trust anyone."

515
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,760
But, Claudia, I love that,
though,

516
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,280
'cause she looked shocked
that he --

517
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,320
that she's his girlfriend.
"You're my girlfriend."

518
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,880
"What?!"

519
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,280
She was like,
"Don't do that,

520
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,800
because then you've just --
You're --

521
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,000
They're gonna come for us."

522
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,000
But now that
you've seen it all --

523
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,440
I haven't --
I can't watch myself.

524
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,400
It's disgusting.No, but you've seen them.

525
00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,160
But do you now know what makes
someone good at this game?Yes.

526
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,000
And what makes someone good
at this game?Charm.

527
00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:03,800
Charm.I --

528
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,200
But lying -- lying must be a big
part of being good at this game.

529
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,560
Lying is really good,
and deception, yeah.

530
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,240
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.

531
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,080
No, 'cause I'm just thinking
an actor would be very good

532
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,200
at this game,
good at lying.

533
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,760
Yes.
No.

534
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,680
Norton:
Oh, you must be lying.

535
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,040
No, I'm terrible,
terrible.

536
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,320
Really?
Yeah.

537
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,360
You have to pay me.
Then I'm good.

538
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,960
[Laughter]

539
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,280
There's money on the line here.Yeah.

540
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,200
No, but I can't think
of anything --

541
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,360
Sorry.Yeah, go on.

542
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,880
I can't think
of anything worse

543
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,040
than being involved
in something like that.

544
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,960
It must be so stressful.It is stre--

545
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,080
Well, the other thing
that's interesting is,

546
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,600
when you watch it unfold,
you think, immediately,

547
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,160
"I'm just gonna be
on the side of the faithful,

548
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,760
and I want them to get
those naughty traitors out."

549
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,160
But your allegiances change.
They go back again.

550
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,920
Because you actually respect
great game play.

551
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,760
Yes.Listen, I'm obsessed.

552
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,240
I'm far too in.
We can start a WhatsApp chat.

553
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,080
Yeah.
If you watch it,
I would genuinely --

554
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,680
I need to find people
to talk about it with.

555
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,560
No, I'm with you. You watch it,
you want to talk about it.

556
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,000
I'm like, "Ah --"

557
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:02,160
Jamie, you --
Chefs must lie all the time.

558
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,320
What do you --
What do you mean?

559
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,560
"Delicious!"

560
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,040
"Oh, yes, it's done.

561
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,280
Yes, it's meant
to be like that."

562
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,800
Can I just ask you?

563
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,440
The special -- You know when
you go to a restaurant?

564
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,160
Yeah.
It's not special, right?

565
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,920
It's called "the special."
That's the first lie.

566
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,640
"We have a special.

567
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,760
We have ox tongue with
a little bit of baked beans

568
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,000
and some parsley."

569
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,520
Is it just stuff
that you've got?

570
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,960
It can be utilizing leftovers
and the whole meat

571
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,440
and being creative
with carcass balance.

572
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,720
No, I mean, it should represent
something special and --

573
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,240
and seasonal.
Oh, good.

574
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:37,560
But, I mean,
don't get me wrong.

575
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,560
The specials board can lie.

576
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,000
Norton: Yeah, yeah.

577
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,000
And, also, that --
"Oh, this is really easy."

578
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,280
I feel sometimes, that's a lie,
as well.

579
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,560
"Anyone can do this."Depends on who's watching.

580
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,400
Yeah, yeah.It's quite subjective.

581
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800
I love lying.
I lie to my kids all the time.

582
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,080
Really?I mean, all -- Yes.

583
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,920
And, again, don't worry.
They're not watching.

584
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,080
I lied for the first 12 years
of my son's life, my eldest son.

585
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,960
He was like, "Mommy,
have you found Nutella?"

586
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,320
I was like, "Do you know what?

587
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,280
I'm keeping my eyes peeled.

588
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880
And the minute I find it,
I'm gonna get a jar."

589
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,760
He was like,
"Oh, fingers crossed."

590
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,000
I was like, "I am looking."

591
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,320
They still believe that iPads
don't work

592
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,880
in residential properties.

593
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,560
I was like,
"I didn't know why.

594
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,560
It's such a --
It's a malfunction, because

595
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800
if they did work at home,
of course we would have them.

596
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,400
They only work at the dentist."

597
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,320
And they were like,
"It seems, like, so --"

598
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,000
And the little one is like,

599
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,920
"It's so elusive of the iPad
that it doesn't work."

600
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,560
I'm like, "Yeah,
go read a book."

601
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,920
But, now, hasn't your daughter
got her own back, though,

602
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,760
with another big lie?This is bad.

603
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Yeah, so, our daughter --
she's 16.

604
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,240
She was -- In lockdown,
she was doing revising for her

605
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:45,240
GCSEs or whatever, and we had
a parent-teacher meeting.

606
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,520
It was like eight months in.

607
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,720
The poor teacher's
working so hard.

608
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,400
We were incredibly grateful.

609
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,760
We sat there.
And she's super cute.

610
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,960
Obviously, I think
she's super cute.

611
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,000
But she's, like,
in bunches next to me.

612
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,600
And the head of VA said,

613
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480
"Look, I know we shouldn't
bring this up,

614
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280
because Tilda says you guys
are really embarrassed about it,

615
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,400
but we just have to say
we are so sorry

616
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,920
about your lack of Wi-Fi."

617
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520
[Laughter]

618
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,200
I was like, "Come again?"

619
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800
Also, by the way,
I do my Radio 2 show live

620
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,960
from the airing cupboard.

621
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,120
We've got full Wi-Fi,
if nothing else.

622
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,880
And I just went,
"I'm sorry?"

623
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240
And like, "Tilda,
can I have a word?"

624
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,920
For eight months, I was like,
"Good luck in Double Maths."

625
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,960
She was like, "Uh-huh."

626
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Doing, like,
TikToks in her room.

627
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,440
Hadn't done anything.
The biggest lie of all.

628
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,040
And also wrote, quite cleverly,
in the e-mail,

629
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,960
"Please don't mention it
to my parents,

630
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,120
because they're
slightly embarrassed,

631
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,000
and the Wi-Fi is really dodgy.

632
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:39,640
And I don't want to tell them,

633
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160
because they're home
sorting three of us,

634
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,520
and I just want
to be supportive.

635
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,000
So I'm going to --"So, what did you do?

636
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,280
Did you go along with it?
Did you back her up?

637
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,960
Absolutely not. No.

638
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,400
[Laughter]

639
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,680
I'm not that good a liar.

640
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,680
I was like,
"No, we have Wi-Fi.

641
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,240
We're okay."
Tilda!

642
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,960
[Laughter]

643
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,480
Let's jump in.
You can follow the fortunes

644
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,200
of the traitors on BBC One

645
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,560
Tuesday through
Thursday evenings.

646
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Very good. Now...

647
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,240
[Cheers and applause]

648
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,880
George Takei,
you bring us a new musical.

649
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280
I mean, you didn't see
this coming.

650
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,200
You just thought, you know,
"It'll be a film, a TV --"

651
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760
No, it's a new musical.
It's called "Allegiance."

652
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,080
It's at
the Charing Cross Theatre

653
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,920
from the 7th of January
to the 8th of April.

654
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,560
And this is a sort of --

655
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,520
So, this is based on an
experience that your family had.

656
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,800
Well,
120,000 Japanese-Americans,

657
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,080
American citizens
of Japanese ancestry.

658
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Pearl Harbor was bombed
by Japan.

659
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,400
Mm-hmm.And overnight, the rest --

660
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,400
Racism and war hysteria
swept through the country.

661
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,520
We looked just like the people
that bombed Pearl Harbor.

662
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,000
We were shout -- yelled at,
spat at, called ugly names.

663
00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:00,360
Graffitis were painted
on businesses, homes.

664
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,160
My father's car had the letters
J-A-P painted on it.

665
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,640
It was a horrible time.

666
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320
And the government
was swept up, as well.

667
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,120
With no charge, no trial, they
came down with a curfew on us.

668
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,960
The next morning, when my father
went to the bank

669
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,640
to make a deposit
or a withdrawal,

670
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,480
our bank account was frozen.

671
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,160
Our money was taken over
by the government.

672
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,040
Some families lost
their entire life savings.

673
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,840
And then, on a fateful day,
February 19th,

674
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,520
President Franklin Delano
Roosevelt, a great president,

675
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,400
signed Executive Order 9066,
which ordered all

676
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,240
Japanese-Americans
on the West Coast,

677
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:53,960
approximately 120,000 of us,
to be summarily rounded up

678
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,760
and imprisoned
in 10 barbed-wire prison camps

679
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,400
in some of the most God awful
places in the country.

680
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,640
Three layers
of barbed-wire fence,

681
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000
machine guns
in the sentry towers,

682
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:11,000
and a half-a-dozen tanks
intimidating and bullying --

683
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,800
Yeah.
The tanks were vehicles
of warfare.

684
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,040
And you were experiencing
all this as a child.

685
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,080
And I read somewhere,
later on,

686
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,280
you were talking
to your father about it.

687
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,000
So things you remembered
as a child --

688
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,520
Like, you remembered, when you
were taken out of your house,

689
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,680
that you thought the neighbors
were kind of waving goodbye,

690
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,920
lining the streets.

691
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,880
But that isn't
what they were doing.

692
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Oh, well, on that --

693
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,960
on that morning,
my father came into our bedroom

694
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,400
that I shared
with my brother, Henry.

695
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,120
He dresses hurriedly and told us
to play in the living room

696
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,240
while our parents
did some last-minute packing.

697
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,160
And there was nothing to do
in the living room,

698
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,480
so we were standing
by the front window,

699
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,680
just gazing out
at the neighborhood,

700
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,360
when we suddenly
saw two soldiers

701
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,680
marching up our driveway.

702
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,800
They carried rifles
with shiny bayonets on them.

703
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,360
They stomped up the porch.

704
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,560
And our window was right
by the steps.

705
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:12,680
They stomped across the porch
and started banging on the door.

706
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,680
Henry and I were frozen.

707
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,200
My father came rushing out of
the bedroom, answered the door.

708
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560
They pointed the bayonet
at my father and said,

709
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,920
"Get your family out."

710
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440
My father gave us --
Henry and me --

711
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,440
boxes tied with twine
to carry.

712
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,840
He hefted two heavy suitcases.Yeah.

713
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680
And we followed him out
onto the driveway

714
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,760
and we waited for our mother.

715
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,360
And when she emerged,
escorted by the other soldier,

716
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
she had our baby sister
in one arm,

717
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760
a huge duffel bag
in the other,

718
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880
and tears were streaming
down her cheek.

719
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,560
That -- The terror
of that morning

720
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,120
is seared into my memory.

721
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,480
I will never -- I mean,
that happened, now -- What?

722
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160
Just about 80 years ago.

723
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680
It's still there and vivid.

724
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880
I can never forget
that morning.

725
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,080
But now you've done
this beautiful thing.

726
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,240
You've transformed it
into a musical.

727
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,360
It's played on Broadway.

728
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Now it's coming to London.

729
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,320
We've got a little taste.

730
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,880
This is you in that production
with the Tony Award winner

731
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Lea Salonga.
Here we go.

732
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,640
Listen to Ojii-chan.

733
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520
♪ Keiko look at page

734
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,440
♪ Paper very bad

735
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,920
♪ Now I look at Keiko,
see how Keiko very sad ♪

736
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160
♪ But paper also change

737
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,880
♪ I fold it up this way

738
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,560
♪♪

739
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,520
♪ A paper flower blossom

740
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,880
♪ Just like Kei

741
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,880
♪♪

742
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Nothing blooms
at Heart Mountain.

743
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,280
You want bet?

744
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:04,120
$2 say I make garden grow
in hard ground.

745
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,840
You're on!
Ha!

746
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,680
You gonna lose.

747
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,400
[Cheers and applause]

748
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,560
And --

749
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,600
I mean, it's such
a beautiful way

750
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,440
to complete
this horrible story.

751
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,120
And I just wonder,
have your brother and sister --

752
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,520
did they come
to see it on Broadway?

753
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,960
Oh, of course.
Of course.

754
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,640
I mean, it must have been
so weird for them

755
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,480
to see their memories
onstage like that.

756
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,560
My baby sister,
who's now a lady,

757
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,120
says she thinks she remembers,
but she's not sure.

758
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,720
She thinks she remembers
because we've told her,

759
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,000
our parents and me.
Yeah.

760
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,920
But Henry doesn't remember
too much either.

761
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
They went through that,
but they were too young

762
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,080
to really be affected by it.

763
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,480
George,
it's a fascinating story.

764
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,160
You can see George Takei's
"Allegiance"

765
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,280
at the Charing Cross Theatre
from the 7th of January.

766
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Now...let's move on.

767
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Jamie Oliver,
with more to see,

768
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,040
brings us a new cookbook
for Christmas.

769
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
And what's great about Jamie is,
it's not just a book.

770
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,520
It's always a great idea.

771
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,720
And this year
is no different.

772
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,200
So, Jamie, tell us
all about "ONE."

773
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Oh, well, this is a book devoted
to your hatred of washing up.

774
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,600
[Cheers and applause]

775
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Yes. Oh, yes.
Yeah. Yeah.

776
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,200
So, I've been trying for years
to find the sweet spot,

777
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,640
and, clearly, I have.

778
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,920
But, yeah, I think
just the idea,

779
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,080
especially now
more than ever,

780
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400
just time,
not too many ingredients,

781
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,320
in one vessel, less washing up,
cover all the bases --

782
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,440
breakfast, brunch, lunch,
dinner, nibbles, hangovers --

783
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800
hangover cures, sorry,
not hangovers.

784
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560
But, yeah, I mean, it's --
I'm still, you know,

785
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200
plucking away,
trying to be, you know, useful.

786
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,760
And there's dishes
for everyone.

787
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,920
There's dishes -- Now, Claudia,
are you a fussy eater?

788
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,640
I feel --Can I just say this?

789
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,840
I'm not just saying this
'cause I'm sitting next to you.

790
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Your food is unbelievable.Bless.

791
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,000
And I love your videos
on Instagram.

792
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120
And I always --
Even stuff that I'm not sure,

793
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,160
like, "Get an apple, grate it,
put it on some --

794
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,200
I don't know -- meringue."

795
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Whatever you do,
I want to do it.

796
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,960
So, I'm just saying --I'm not sure
he's done that.

797
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
No, but you put up ribs
this week.
Yep.

798
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
And me and my husband were,
"Oh, let's try and do that."

799
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,200
But I don't believe
in aubergine.

800
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Is there aubergine in there?

801
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,560
Yes. Yeah.

802
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,800
It's one of my favorite --Feast your eyes.

803
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Yeah.
Feast your eyes on --

804
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,120
What is that?Hasselback aubergine pie.

805
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Yeah, man.No, guys, no.

806
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
I don't -- No.

807
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Britain has a bad relationship
with aubergines.

808
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160
We don't really understand
the beauty that is within them.

809
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,000
So, you know, my job
is to give you

810
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,280
basically about 80%
of what you want

811
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
and about 20% of what you
didn't know you wanted yet.

812
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Yeah. It's true.

813
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,360
And aubergine's definitely
in that camp.

814
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040
But it's amazing,
'cause it's not --

815
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,160
You don't just have
to have it fried.

816
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520
It can be, like,
really soft and steamed.

817
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Mulchy.And you can put any flavor
you can imagine on it.

818
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,120
Yes.
But you can make it tender.

819
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,360
You can make it crisp.
Anyway --

820
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,520
The fact that it both
happens at the same time,

821
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840
so it's, like, fleshy
but also hard.

822
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,480
Yeah.I'm like, "Ugh!"

823
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
It's all of those things.It, like, breaks science.

824
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,800
I don't --
I don't accept it.

825
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,960
But I will --
But "one pan" is genius.

826
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Yes. Kristin, are you, like,
Cordon Bleu, French chef?

827
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,640
No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.

828
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800
But I do love to cook.

829
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840
I do love to cook.French food.

830
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Yes, I do like to cook
French food,

831
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080
but I find it very difficult
to want to cook here.

832
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Why? What's that --
What happened?

833
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Well, because
I can't find --

834
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,240
I don't like going
to farmer's markets,

835
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,200
because the market is obviously
a farmer, right?

836
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,480
Yeah.

837
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,680
So you have to go
to a supermarket --

838
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Is it the name
that annoys you?

839
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Yes, it does.
It does.

840
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920
It annoys me.
I mean, you wouldn't say,

841
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280
"No, I'm going to this really
nice industrial market."

842
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Would you?
No.
There's some amazing markets --

843
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Because I can't find anything
that doesn't come in a packet.

844
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,120
Yeah, well,
the plastic problem --

845
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,320
That is a real problem.

846
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,320
And now, with this
no sale-by date,

847
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640
but you can't actually get to
what you're buying

848
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,160
with no sale-by date,

849
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
so you don't know that
it's completely had it

850
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,440
when you get it home
and you open it.

851
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,600
So it's sort of --
I feel a campaign coming.

852
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,840
Yeah.I feel a campaign coming.

853
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,800
Yeah.
And, weirdly, he's --

854
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160
Isn't it funny
how things change?

855
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600
I had forgotten that in --

856
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,720
I think it was 2008 --
we all saw you, George,

857
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800
eating all sorts on
"I'm a Celebrity."

858
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,720
I'd forgotten you were on "I'm a
Celebrity." You were top three.

859
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Takei: Yeah.There you are.

860
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,440
I don't know what you're
eating there.

861
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,840
You liked some of it,
didn't you?

862
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,000
Oh, yes.
Insects are delicious.

863
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,080
There, they were alive,
skittering about.

864
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,720
That's less delicious.

865
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,480
So the challenging part
was catching them.

866
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,680
And then, once you put it
in your mouth,

867
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,440
you start chewing right away.

868
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
And it's crunchy and nut-like.

869
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Cockroaches, grasshoppers.

870
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Fresh enough for you,
Kristin?

871
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120
It was delicious.

872
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,400
No packaging there.

873
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,040
[Laughter]

874
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,400
The French are
venturesome eaters.

875
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Who would think of eating
frog's legs

876
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,440
or all the other things
that the French eat?

877
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Snails -- delicious.
Yeah.

878
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,159
If you love French food,
you have to be venturesome.

879
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,320
In the jungles, we had to be
venturesome to survive.

880
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Yeah.That's my line.

881
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:17,520
I couldn't do that.Yes.

882
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:18,639
I couldn't do it.

883
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,239
You couldn't?
No.

884
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Oh, we're gonna eat
a kangaroo's penis.

885
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,600
Like --No, you're
right about that.

886
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,120
I would definitely throw up.I did it.

887
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,280
But no one -- Has anyone
actually thrown up yet?

888
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,560
Yes, I think some --
As you said it, I had a memory.

889
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,040
I'm sure --
And, also,

890
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:33,639
because we could probably
all eat kangaroo penis,

891
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,360
but you need to do something,
like, you know,

892
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,040
sauté it in garlic
or something.

893
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,639
Put it in one pan.Some aubergine.

894
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Put it in one pan.

895
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,560
There's nothing more tasteless
than kangaroo penis.

896
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,199
There's no taste.

897
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,800
You have a lot
of experience?

898
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,880
It's leathery and thick,
and you got to chew it.

899
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Norton: I know.And it --

900
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,960
It's sort of a relief to know
it's tasteless, though.

901
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,520
Totally, totally.

902
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,280
They could have, like,
slow-cooked it or something.

903
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,600
Mm-hmm.
Slow-cooked it.

904
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:01,760
Well, it's a lot of chewing,
isn't it?

905
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,680
No, but there's
no flavor to it.

906
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,360
Yeah.You'd have to add garlic.

907
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,800
I had something --Yeah.

908
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Helps definitely
with the penis.

909
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
I had a --Sometimes.

910
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,640
Say that again.It helps with the penis.

911
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Oh, my!
Oh, my, indeed.

912
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Yeah.

913
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,960
[Laughter]

914
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,520
And -- And, Jamie,

915
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,040
we must mention
your extraordinary campaigning,

916
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080
the amount of energy
you put into your campaigning.

917
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,760
And are you one of the very
few people who met

918
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Prime Minister Liz Truss?

919
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,680
No, no.
I -- No, no.

920
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,880
I knew it would be
quick innings.

921
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560
I could feel it in my --
you know, in my heart.

922
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,400
No. No, I didn't.

923
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,320
But we kind of knew it wasn't
gonna be great for child health,

924
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,680
because we'd been tracking her
for about three years.

925
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480
And we kind of know
they move around

926
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,040
quite a lot in their jobs.

927
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,840
So I knew it wasn't gonna
last very long.

928
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,080
And as we head towards --

929
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,560
But she did beat
my expectations.

930
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Really?

931
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,120
But as we head towards
the Christmas holidays

932
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,760
and the Christmas school
holidays, what are --

933
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,240
what are you hoping for?

934
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,480
We have a campaign at the moment
where there is a gap between

935
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,800
the free-school-lunch kids
and the universal-credit kids.

936
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,720
And it's
about 800,000 children.

937
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,520
And they're from very challenged
families, financially.

938
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,000
And they're very vulnerable.

939
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,320
And I've seen it,
and I've worked in it,

940
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,040
and I've been in this area
for 17 years.

941
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,760
And it is hard to take
when you see it

942
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,160
and the pressure
on the family.

943
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
We've recognized it
for about four years.

944
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,120
And as we go into winter,
as we go into cost of living,

945
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,240
I think we have to fix it,
and no one wants to fix it

946
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,880
'cause there's
a lot of problems.

947
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
But I just think when it comes
to vulnerable kids

948
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,520
and how we treat them
and how society treats them,

949
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,720
there is limits,
and I think this is one.

950
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,800
So we don't believe it's really,
really important.

951
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,840
It is really important.
And good luck with the new book.

952
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040
It's "ONE:
Simple One-Pan Wonders,"

953
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
and that is out now.
Jamie Oliver, everybody.

954
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,440
[Cheers and applause]

955
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,800
Okay, it is time for music.

956
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,920
These soulful Swedish sisters
are back after five years

957
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,200
with a stunning new album,
"Palomino."

958
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Performing "Out of My Head,"
it is First Aid Kit!

959
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,400
[Cheers and applause]

960
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,640
♪♪

961
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,960
♪ Back in time,
oh, I go wandering ♪

962
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,680
♪ Through the rooms
of my mind ♪

963
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,160
♪ Every door that
I've been closing ♪

964
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,280
♪ All the people
that I have let down ♪

965
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680
♪ On a river

966
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,000
♪ I'm floating
down the stream ♪

967
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,200
♪ And back again

968
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,440
♪ Like a beggar

969
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,240
♪ On my knees

970
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,960
♪ Am I running
out of time? ♪

971
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,160
Both:
♪ Stuck inside my dreaming

972
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,480
♪ Falling behind

973
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,160
♪ Running on low

974
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,000
♪ Does it matter now?

975
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,320
♪ Let me out

976
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680
♪ Out of my mind

977
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
♪ Out of my head

978
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,120
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

979
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,520
♪ Ooh, ooh

980
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560
♪ Ooh, ooh

981
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,000
♪♪

982
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,960
♪ Words hung heavy
upon my shoulders ♪

983
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,920
♪ Slowly drowning
in the sound ♪

984
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,200
♪ Every door just flew open

985
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,680
♪ Praying I'd stay tethered
to the ground ♪

986
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,720
♪ On a river

987
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,840
♪ I'm floating
down the stream ♪

988
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,560
♪ And back again

989
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,480
♪ Like a prisoner

990
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,040
♪ Set me free

991
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,280
♪ Am I running out of time?

992
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,360
♪ Stuck inside my dreaming

993
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,440
♪ Falling behind

994
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,040
♪ Running on low

995
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,600
♪ Does it matter now?

996
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,600
♪ Let me out

997
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,640
♪ Out of my mind

998
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,560
♪ Out of my head

999
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,440
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1000
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,520
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh

1001
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Out of my head ♪

1002
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
♪ Out of my mind

1003
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,360
♪♪

1004
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,360
♪ On a river

1005
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,520
♪ I'm floating down
the stream ♪

1006
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,520
♪ And back again

1007
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,040
♪ Like a beggar

1008
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,800
♪ On my knees

1009
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,040
♪ Am I running out of time?

1010
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,120
♪ All my dreaming,
all my trials ♪

1011
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:55,200
♪ Where they'll lead,
does it matter now? ♪

1012
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,040
♪ Let me out

1013
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,800
♪ Out of my mind

1014
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,200
♪♪

1015
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,320
♪ Stuck inside my dreaming

1016
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,440
♪ Falling behind

1017
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,800
♪ Running on low

1018
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,480
♪ Does it matter now?

1019
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480
♪ Let me out

1020
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,520
♪ Out of my mind

1021
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
♪ Out of my head

1022
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1023
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,760
♪ Ooh, ooh

1024
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,560
♪ Ooh, ooh

1025
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,480
♪ Out of my head

1026
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,480
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1027
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600
♪ Ooh, ooh

1028
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,680
♪ Ooh, ooh

1029
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,640
♪ Out of my head

1030
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,600
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1031
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,800
♪♪

1032
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,880
♪ Ooh, ooh

1033
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,800
♪ Out of my head

1034
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,600
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1035
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:48,000
♪ Ooh, ooh

1036
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,840
♪ Out of my head

1037
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,440
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh

1038
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,920
[Cheers and applause]

1039
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Oh! Gorgeous!

1040
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600
First Aid Kit, everybody!

1041
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,080
How beautiful was that?

1042
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Klara, Johanna,
come on over, join us, do.

1043
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,880
And big up the rest of the band,
as well.

1044
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Come on over.
Thank you so much.

1045
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,600
That was beautiful.

1046
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,000
Come in, have a sit-down.

1047
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,440
There's champagne
waiting for you.

1048
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Hello, hello, hello.
Sit down, champagne.

1049
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,040
More champagne.

1050
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,280
Oh, thank you so much.

1051
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,440
Now, there's room for all.

1052
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Thank you so much for that.
Yes, cheers.

1053
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Cheers, ladies.
Beautiful.

1054
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,600
Absolutely gorgeous.

1055
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,960
That is from the new album,
"Palomino."

1056
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,520
There you are. And there you are
with some horses.

1057
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,400
"Palomino." So, are you both
big fans of horses?

1058
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,640
No.

1059
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,360
[Laughter]

1060
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,880
I'm terrified, to be honest.

1061
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560
I mean, we like them
from afar.

1062
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,840
But that's you right
beside a horse.

1063
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,400
Yeah, I was terrified.She was.

1064
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,840
We were by a cliff
with aggressive horses.

1065
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,440
No, they weren't
aggressive.

1066
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,360
They were.
I was so scared.

1067
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,680
I know you were
really scared.

1068
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Why did you choose to call it
"Palomino"

1069
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,360
and then pose with horses?

1070
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Yeah, and they're not even
palomino horses.

1071
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,920
No, I wasn't gonna say that.

1072
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
I wasn't going to push it
further.

1073
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,560
But, you know,
no, they're not.

1074
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,120
They're just
some random horses.I know.

1075
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,600
But well done for your art,
for your art.

1076
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,320
Thank you.
Very good.

1077
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,600
'Cause, Kristin, now,
people think you like horses.

1078
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,000
Why do people think --I can't stand horses.

1079
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,240
I'm with you.
No, 'cause I --

1080
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,560
When I was, yes,
a younger woman,

1081
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,960
along with the champagne
and cigarettes,

1082
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,800
I got a lot of horses
to ride in films.

1083
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,280
One very, very good film
called "The Horse Whisperer,"

1084
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,200
and as I signed the contract,
I thought, "Oh, God.

1085
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Might have to ride a horse."

1086
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,280
Yeah, chances are, yeah.
Yeah.

1087
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Actually, I really enjoyed
that part of the --

1088
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,440
I liked riding horses
in America.

1089
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Is it easier in America
or something?

1090
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,760
Yes, it is.Is it really?

1091
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Yes.
Yeah. Western style.

1092
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,240
There you go. Yeah.Yeah.

1093
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,360
You have a big saddle
and you have huge stirrups

1094
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,720
and --
Yeah.

1095
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Try horses in America.
You'll love it there.

1096
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:56,840
Okay, okay.

1097
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Okay, so,
you don't like horses,

1098
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,560
but I know that
you really love dogs.

1099
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,320
Now, so, who --
who owns this little guy?

1100
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,760
[Laughter]

1101
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480
That's my baby.
That's Pablo.

1102
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,840
Pablo.Yeah.

1103
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,080
He's the Spanish street dog.

1104
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,360
He's new in your life?

1105
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,680
I've had him for
about four years.

1106
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Oh, okay.Yeah.

1107
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,600
So, how did he get
from Spain?

1108
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,960
I found him on Facebook.
And there was -- So --

1109
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Did he just friend you
randomly?

1110
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480
And this was the picture,
and it said,

1111
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,240
"I'm so ugly,
nobody wants me."

1112
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,240
And then it was done.
I had to have him.

1113
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,880
And I think he's the most
beautiful little man.

1114
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,120
He is gorgeous.Yeah.

1115
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:38,080
Is there something wrong
with him?

1116
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,320
Yes. Yes, there is.

1117
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,560
I call him El Diablo.

1118
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Yes. Yeah.
Pablo Diablo, yeah.

1119
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,720
He's not a nice dog
to most.

1120
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,200
He's nice to me.
He loves you.

1121
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200
He loves -- Like, the people
he knows he loves,

1122
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,120
but he's scared of strangers,

1123
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,400
and, you know,
probably for the --

1124
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080
you know, reasonable -- reasons,
'cause people have been --

1125
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,520
He's probably had
some stuff go on.

1126
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Yes. Yes.
Yeah.

1127
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,400
Fair enough.
Yes.

1128
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,280
So, Pablo must be
missing you,

1129
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,920
'cause you're on tour
right now, aren't you?

1130
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,160
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.

1131
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Oh!
Aww, I miss him, yeah.

1132
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,000
And so, how long --
Is the tour just here

1133
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,600
or are you going other places?

1134
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,200
Yeah, it's just -- It's UK.It's UK right now.

1135
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,320
Yeah.
Okay.

1136
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960
And I'm not gonna talk
about it,

1137
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,880
'cause I think
it's all sold out, isn't it?

1138
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,840
Pretty much. There's a few
tickets left in Cardiff.

1139
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,840
Yeah, Cardiff.

1140
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,480
Cardiff.Stupid Cardiff.

1141
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,840
They're all going to
the "Star Trek" convention.

1142
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,160
That's the problem.

1143
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,040
May you live long
and prosper.

1144
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,640
[Laughter]

1145
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,800
Well, listen, good luck
with the rest of the tour.

1146
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
And come on, Cardiff.
Sell out.

1147
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,160
Thank you so much
for that gorgeous performance.

1148
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Johanna and Klara,
First Aid Kit, everybody.

1149
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,200
[Cheers and applause]

1150
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Right, that's nearly it.

1151
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,640
Before we go, just time for
a visit to the Big Red Chair.

1152
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,480
This is your favorite part
of the show, I know.

1153
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,440
I have a vague memory
of something

1154
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520
being really repulsive,
some really repulsive story.

1155
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,400
Really?
That sounds so unlikely.

1156
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,960
It's amazing.I find this whole thing
really perplexing.

1157
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,400
Well, bless --

1158
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,240
The whole idea of coming --
Anyway -- Yeah.

1159
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
No, but sometimes,
they have brilliant stories.

1160
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Okay.
And they're so nervous
about being flipped,

1161
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,720
and then they're not flipped
and it's so magical.

1162
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,360
Alright.
Claudia, I hope --

1163
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,720
I hope this doesn't
disappoint you. Here we go.

1164
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,360
Norton: Hello.Hello.

1165
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,920
I have high hopes.Come on.

1166
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,520
I have high hopes.
What's your name?

1167
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,280
I'm Sue.
Sue. Lovely, Sue.

1168
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,560
And where do you live, Sue?Sutton Coldfield.

1169
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,320
Oh, Sutton Coldfield!
Home of the anecdote.

1170
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,320
And -- and what do you do
in Sutton Coldfield, Sue?

1171
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Is your name Sue?Yes, it is, yeah.

1172
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Oh, it is. Good.

1173
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,320
I'm a health-and-safety lawyer.

1174
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Ooh!

1175
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,680
Come on, Sue.
Give us the dirt.

1176
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,960
You know why she's here.

1177
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,200
[Laughter]

1178
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,920
It's a lawsuit
waiting to happen.

1179
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,840
Yeah.
You wearing a neck brace?

1180
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,800
Yeah, you're not gonna
get flipped.

1181
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,160
[Laughter]

1182
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Okay, off you go
with your story, Sue.

1183
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Well, this was
a few years ago.

1184
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,480
I went on holiday
with the family,

1185
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,920
and we decided to go to a water
park for the day with the kids.

1186
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,320
Good start.And as soon as you walk in,

1187
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080
there's these great big
drop slides in front of you,

1188
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,160
and the kids immediately
wanted to go on those.

1189
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,840
So, "Oh, okay. Better go now
before the queues build up."

1190
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,520
But it took us about an hour

1191
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,080
to get to the top
of these slides,

1192
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,840
and there were hundreds
of people around.

1193
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,440
It was just massive,
massive queues.

1194
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,320
And I thought,
"I've got to go first,

1195
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,360
because, otherwise,
I'm just not going to do it."

1196
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,400
I'd psych myself out.

1197
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,480
So, I'd read all
the instructions, obviously,

1198
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:40,080
and got on to the top of the --I love you.

1199
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,240
I got to the top of the slide,
and it said "cross your legs,"

1200
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,800
which I did, and "cross your
arms," which I did.

1201
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000
And the guy then said,
"Wait for my signal."

1202
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,920
"Okay." And I am a big screamer
on the thrill rides.

1203
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,400
So he said -- he said,
"Right, wait for my signal.

1204
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,280
Go!"

1205
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,360
And I shut my eyes and opened
my mouth and I screamed.

1206
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,160
At the top of my voice,
I was screaming.

1207
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,680
And I was obviously
flying down this ride.

1208
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,520
It was so smooth, and there
was water rushing down.

1209
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,080
And it was just
the most amazing ride.

1210
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,160
And as my scream came to an end,
as it petered out,

1211
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,680
I could hear this voice
in my ear saying, "Ma'am?

1212
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,240
Ma'am, you need to push off if
you want to enjoy this ride."

1213
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,200
[Laughter]

1214
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Oh, you can walk, Sue.

1215
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,520
You can walk.

1216
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,440
Good, clean family fun.

1217
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,440
That really is all
we've got time for.

1218
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,360
If you'd like to have a go
in that Red Chair yourself

1219
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,000
and tell your story,
you can contact us

1220
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,360
via our website
at this very address.

1221
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,520
Please say a huge thank-you
to all of my guests tonight.

1222
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,640
First Aid Kit!

1223
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,440
Jamie Oliver!

1224
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Claudia Winkleman!

1225
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,720
George Takei!

1226
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,200
And Kristin Scott Thomas!

1227
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Join me next week with music
from Olly Murs,

1228
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,800
comedian Jack Whitehall,
celebrity baker Nadiya Hussain,

1229
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,760
national treasure
Sir Lenny Henry,

1230
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,960
and Oscar winner Kate Winslet.
I'll see you then.

1231
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!

1232
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,640
♪♪

1233
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:19,400
♪♪

1234
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:27,360
♪♪

1235
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:35,120
♪♪

1236
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:38,160
[Cheers and applause]