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This programme contains
some strong language.
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Hi, everybody.
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This is Quentin Tarantino welcoming
you to The Graham Norton Show.
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Why?
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Because we love making talk shows!
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Roll cameras!
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Oh, hello!
Hi.
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Oh!
So lovely to see you all.
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Hello.
Hello.
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Hi.
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Thank you very much for being here.
Good evening.
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You're all very welcome to the show.
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Such a great show tonight.
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I tell you, I couldn't be more
excited if I was Ross Kemp
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on Celebrity Traitors.
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Good luck!
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Singing for us tonight,
look over there, it's Suede!
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Yeah, they'll be singing their track
Dancing with the Europeans.
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But first on my sofa tonight,
this comedian and sitcom star won
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a whopping 64 Daytime Emmy Awards
with a hugely successful talk show,
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broke records with her
star-studded Oscars selfie.
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And as Dory in Finding Nemo,
she taught us all to
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just keep swimming.
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It is a warm, first-time
welcome to Ellen DeGeneres.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
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I know!
Hello.
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So good to see you.
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Have a seat.
I know!
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This model and actor broke
onto the scene in Humans and shot
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to fame as Astrid in the smash hit
Crazy Rich Asians.
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Now she brings us the
heartbreaking drama Josephine.
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It's another first time
welcome to Gemma Chan!
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Oh!
Whoa!
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Mwah, mwah!
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This Irish star made
us laugh in In Bruges,
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cry in the Banshees of Inisherin
and say "That's Colin
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Farrell" in The Penguin.
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Now he's running the Dublin Marathon
with his friend and disability
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campaigner Emma Fogarty
in the documentary
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The Slightest Touch.
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Always a pleasure to
welcome Colin Farrell!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
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There he is.
Hello, sir.
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Great to have you here.
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Hello.
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And he's the two-time Oscar
and BAFTA-winning director
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and writer behind films
like the iconic Pulp Fiction,
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Django Unchained,
Inglourious Basterds
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and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
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His latest creation
is a swashbuckling West End play,
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The Popinjay Cavalier.
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Please welcome the great
Quentin Tarantino.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
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Here he comes.
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Hello.
Good to see you.
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There you go.
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Oh, lovely to see you all.
I know - you picked a good night.
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You picked a good night.
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Welcome back to Quentin and Colin.
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First time welcome to Gemma.
First time welcome to Ellen.
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Hello.
Hello.
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And I'm so pleased you're here.
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And I don't want this to sound
unfriendly in any way,
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but why are you here?
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I have nothing going on and I miss
being on TV, so I thought
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I would just come on.
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Great!
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And of course, the big news
is you now live amongst us.
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You're in the UK.
I live here now.
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Yeah, I love it.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
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So, do you live on a farm?
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Well, we first moved
to the Cotswolds, so we have a farm
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and we live in the Cotswolds.
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But then we have a
place here as well.
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So when we want to be on the farm
and have farm life, we have that.
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And then when we want to see people
with teeth, we come here.
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That's a joke.
They have teeth.
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Burning crosses outside your house.
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Go home tomorrow!
It's like, what happened?
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Well, we're happy to have you.
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And here's the thing,
Gemma Chan has quite an odd
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connection to Colin Farrell.
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Do you know this?
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No.
It's quite convoluted.
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Let's do it.
It's live television.
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All right.
Buckle up.
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I have a rescue cat called Mr Kitty,
who's five years old, from Puglia.
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He has a short, stubby tail.
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He had an accident.
God is in the details.
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We've got a picture of Mr Kitty.
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There he is.
There he is.
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He looks like he did some MDMA.
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I wouldn't go to sleep if that
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He's a sweetheart.
He's a very sweet boy.
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and he was maybe going
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of Noel Fitzpatrick, the Supervet,
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who saved the leg and gave him
a hip replacement.
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But Noel Fitzpatrick,
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because he was an aspiring actor,
but he lost out on a role
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to you in Ballykissangel,
and so indirectly, thanks to you,
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Mr Kitty has his leg.
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You're very, very welcome.
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What a great story!
Shaggy dog story.
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Shaggy cat story.
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And now, Ellen, you do
know Colin Farrell?
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I do, yeah.
Colin's been on the show many times.
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Like, you've been on The Ellen Show
more than you've been
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on this and that's a lot.
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How many times?
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And we've never kissed, you and I.
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How many times?
Ten, 15?
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You've been on, I'd say 15 times
you were on the show.
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And the kissing.
What's the thing about the kissing?
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What?
I have no idea.
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What is the thing about the kissing?
What are you talking about?
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Well, we've got clips.
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This is Ellen meeting Colin
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seems to happen each time.
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So this is...
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..I think this is the first time
Colin's on the show.
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Was it you?
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Well, this is the very first time -
I think it was you.
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Look at you.
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Oh, you pulled me in.
Oh my goodness!
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There's more.
Wow!
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I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
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I feel like maybe we
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The first guy was drunk
Colin, he was a lot less
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shy than sober Colin -
came out for the kiss like this.
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Were you drunk that first time?
Oh, hell, yeah.
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Really?
I was always drunk.
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Or hungover.
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I thought you were sober
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Not then.
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It was just a mutual attraction.
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You grabbed the back of my head.
I think we saw.
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I have breath mints here,
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Wow.
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When those glasses are all empty...
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I'll start with the martini, then!
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How did it happen?
It was just organic.
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Were you ever on The Ellen Show?
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I don't know why that is.
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No, no, no, I don't
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As we know, there are producers that
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why you weren't on it.
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I don't know why you
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Let's look into this.
Now I'm angry.
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It might have been the kissing.
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We don't know.
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One of your routines
in the early part of your career
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was one of my favourite,
acting little set pieces
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where you play the flight attendant
right at the end of the flight.
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Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
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Goodbye.
See-ya, bye-bye.
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Goodbye.
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That's really one of my favourite
bits from the '90s.
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Very good.
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He does impressions now!
Very good!
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It's true.
It's like I just...
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My stuff is observational
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at everyone's side of it.
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And I just think we're walking out
and we just hear the bye-bye.
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But that flight attendant has to say
that to all 170 people.
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So they're standing there, bye-bye.
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Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye...
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Thank you.
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Bye-bye, bye-bye.
Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye...
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Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye...
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Thank you!
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You gave me a nice
little greatest hits.
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That was lovely.
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Now...
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Ellen claims she's here
with nothing to talk about.
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Quentin Tarantino, au contraire.
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You have a lot to talk about!
So let's get started.
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We begin with a play.
Yes, a play.
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It's called The Popinjay Cavalier.
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It's opening at the Phoenix Theatre
in London early next year.
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So I guess the first question
is like, how did this happen?
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How did Quentin Tarantino
end up writing a play
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and putting it on the West End?
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Well, the thing about it was,
I've been wanting to write a play
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for a while, and then I came up
with this idea and I wrote it.
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of like a jumping off
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on swashbuckler movies
and everything, I think
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when I first started writing it,
at least for like the first third,
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I guess, what would be the first
act, I wrote it as a screenplay.
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"No, there's something
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about this character,
there's something huge about this
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character that if a comic actor
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in the room, eight shows a week,
and you came up there
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and you saw it back and forth,
you know, with a real live
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audience every time,
it would be different than a movie -
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that this might be
the one to do as a play."
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And so then for the rest of it,
I just started writing it as a play.
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And I was very, very
happy with the results.
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And who is starring?
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I'm very excited to say
it's Sacha Baron Cohen.
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APPLAUSE.
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And can you tell us?
It's swashbuckling.
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It's set in the 19th century.
Yeah.
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Can you tell us anything
about the story at all?
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I want to kind of keep that
a little bit under wraps.
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OK.
No, fair enough.
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But there is a...
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Say no more!
There is...
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..it's jumping off from
the swashbuckling genre.
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But there is a real French
farce quality to it.
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And you're directing it as well?
Yeah, yeah.
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But you've never
directed a play before?
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No, I've never directed
a play before.
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Do you think that'll be hard?
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No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
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It's like...
Well, well...
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That's not arrogant, I actually...
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But you never directed a film before
- what was your first film?
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Reservoir Dogs.
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You'll be all right.
That's a good point.
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But, I mean, the thing is,
as far as I get being in,
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you know, these limited,
you know, limited spaces,
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I can't go everywhere.
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Well, I kind of figure
that out on the page,
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and that's kind of how I always do
it in a movie.
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I kind of figure it out on the page,
and then I do it on,
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you know, on the screen.
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So here, I figured it out
on the page, so it works
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as a play or it doesn't work.
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And I think it does.
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And so now it's just about just
getting with the actors
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and just working it.
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And then the idea of like
eight weeks rehearsal
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is a luxury in movies.
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Yeah.
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It's a full-on comedy.
OK.
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I mean, like the issue
is if we do our job correctly, is...
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They'll miss some of the dialogue
because the laughter
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will be so tumultuous!
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Well, no, I mean, even I'm even
more specific about it.
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It's like we're gonna have to add 25
minutes for the laughs.
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So I've got to take out 25
minutes of material.
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Yeah, do that.
Short is great.
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OK.
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I've seen 15 shows since I've
been in the West End.
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Nothing wrong with short.
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No one ever complained
about a play being short.
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If only there'd been a third act...!
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But now, Quentin, you are
still making movies.
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Your latest is the Further
Misadventures of Cliff Booth.
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And this is in IMAX
from November 25th.
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Now this...
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You're getting around the not
making your 10th film.
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I've come up with a slippery,
greasy pig loophole.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you wrote this film.
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It's a spin-off from Once Upon
a Time in Hollywood.
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It's the Further Misadventures
of Cliff Booth.
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But the key is you
haven't directed it.
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Well, I don't know
if that's the KEY!
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All right.
But I haven't directed it.
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You have not directed.
David Fincher has.
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Yeah.
Well, and the thing about it is...
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He's my favourite director,
aside from myself, working.
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And so when Brad suggested,
"What about David doing it?"
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And I go...
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This is Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt, Cliff Booth.
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All right.
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I go, wow, if you think
he would be interested, yeah.
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All right.
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And then he read the script
and he was interested.
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And we got together and talked.
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And it was just a marriage
made in heaven.
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So what's happening
to Cliff Booth now?
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This is set about eight years later?
Yeah, yeah, it takes place in 1977.
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And Cliff's not really...
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..he's not really a stuntman
that much anymore.
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He has more like a series of odd
jobs that he does every
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week and everything.
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And so that kind of
helps make his nut.
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But one of the things
that he does is, you know,
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he knows different people
in the industry that are genuine
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friends, genuine friends.
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And when people in the Hollywood
industry kind of end up crossing
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over to the wild side and get
themselves into trouble,
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Cliff is the kind of guy
who can get them out.
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OK.
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I'll tell you what, to give us
a feel for what the movie's like,
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here's a little taste
of the trailer...
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You heard the story
about Bruce Lee getting his ass
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kicked by a stuntman?
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Oh, yeah.
This is the guy!
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Evening, fellas.
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Do I know you from somewhere?
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Name's Cliff.
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Who's not drunk?
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I lost count of how many
jokers I killed on TV.
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But you...
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You actually killed people.
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Let's just say I know what it's
like to kill someone with a knife.
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APPLAUSE.
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And you've done this thing -
you did it with Once Upon a Time
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in Hollywood, you've
done a novelisation...
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Yes, I have.
..of the book.
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And the movie theatre that's
in the film and on the cover
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of the book, this is a good bit
of Hollywood trivia, you own it?
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Yes, I own the New Beverly.
All right.
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If you're in Los Angeles,
we're a revival house and we only
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show on 35 millimetre film,
sometimes on 16.
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All right.
But only on film.
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And if you're in Los Angeles,
please check us out.
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Have you ever been there?
Yeah, it's great.
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Have you been there?
Yes?
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Fantastic.
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And there's another - the Vista.
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I also have the Vista.
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I think it's so beautiful.
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Well, that's the jewel
box of Los Angeles.
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So beautiful.
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The Vista is a theatre
in Los Feliz as well
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that he purchased post-Covid.
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Yeah, yeah.
Right on.
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It's beautiful, man.
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You've got a collection.
I'm an exhibitor.
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Somebody said that about me before!
Keep your pants up!
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It's great.
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The sense of community
that these theatres
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also create is really,
really cool, man.
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We actually just fairly recently had
a Cool Cop double feature.
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At the New Beverly and we showed
SWAT and it was a smash.
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No!
It was a smash.
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Old school man, old-school.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
yeah, I remember.
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Very good.
Thank you.
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So, what's it like in real life?
It's faster.
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We were talking about
Once Upon A Time in Hollywood
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and we were remarking
that your casting is extraordinary,
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because we didn't really know
who the young Manson family were,
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and so many of them
are now so famous.
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Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
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Like, Austin Butler was in there.
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Sydney Sweeney, Oscar winner
Mikey Madison, Margaret Qualley.
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Like, is it because they were in
a Quentin Tarantino film that
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they've gone on to success or...?
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Not at all.
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You know, I appreciate
having my name attached with them.
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They all had...
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It's not like I found them
in a community theatre, all right?
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They all had done things
before in the past.
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I mean, Austin Butler was acting
in Iceman Cometh on Broadway
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with Denzel Washington
when I cast him.
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But the thing is, though, is look,
me and my casting director,
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Victoria Thomas, look,
we just did a really,
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really good job.
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We looked at everybody
in town that could play
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those roles and, well,
guess what, we picked
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the right people.
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The good ones.
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We picked the right people,
but they were all kind
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of coming from somewhere.
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And I'm getting a little bit more
credit than I deserve
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because they all were going where
they were going on their own.
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It did not hurt, all right.
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But in the case of Sydney Sweeney,
she had already done
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Euphoria, the first season.
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So she's actually doing us a favour,
all right, being in the show.
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Gemma, you have kind of experienced
this where Crazy Rich Asians,
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like, a lot of you going into that
movie weren't that well known
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and then, you know, were.
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Yeah, yeah.
It was an amazing thing.
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It was kind of like Asians
Assemble for this movie.
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But yeah, incredible cast.
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We've got brilliant people there
who've gone on to do amazing things.
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Yeah.
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And for your family,
it must have been kind
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of like, "Our daughter's
in a big movie,
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like a proper big movie."
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Yeah.
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My parents are very,
you know, they're both,
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neither of them are in the arts.
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They're very practical people.
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And I originally did
a law degree and switched
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to then do acting.
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That was
a thrill for them.
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Yeah, that was a quiet Christmas.
Yeah.
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But yeah, when they came
to see the movie,
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my mum told me that she heard a song
that her mum used to
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sing to her back in China
when she was young
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that she'd never heard, you know,
not heard for a long time.
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And it really moved her to tears.
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So that was really powerful.
Oh, wow.
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She's here somewhere.
Mum!
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There she is.
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Aw.
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Hello.
Hi.
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And, you know, directors can
make stars, but also,
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they can kind of change
the trajectory of established stars.
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I'm thinking, like, Martin McDonagh.
Yeah.
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When he came to you with In Bruges,
is there a story that you thought
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you weren't right for In Bruges?
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No, I thought I was right
for it, but I thought
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it was terrible casting.
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OK.
Correct.
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I had just got out of rehab,
and so I had burned a good few
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bridges, and the phone wasn't
ringing the way it did in the first
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few years of my career.
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And it was ringing also built
on a promise that wasn't anything
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to do with reality and I gained
certainly a lot of finances
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from that, but it was all crazy
for the first three years.
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But I had a little interesting
journey and took a side trip
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to rehab, and then I came out
of rehab and Martin wanted
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to meet me, and I knew Martin
from back in the day from hanging
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out with him in London
when he was doing his theatre here.
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And we'd had some good
nights on the tiles.
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All in the distant past now!
Coffee and tea.
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But we met and he said,
"You read the script?"
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And I had read it and I said yeah.
And he said, "What do you think?"
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I said, "I just think it's one
of the most brilliant
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things I've ever read.
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It's so beautiful, so moving.
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It's such a love story
between these two characters,
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and it's just an anarchy as well
in moments and it's hilarious".
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And he said, "Great,
so you'll do it?"
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And I said, "No, I think
you can do better".
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And he went, "Well,
what are you talking about?"
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And I said, "No, no, no".
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I said, "To be honest
with you", I was very...
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I just said, "I come
with a lot of baggage,
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and I might not be known
for the right stuff right now,
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so I think you should get somebody
that the audience doesn't come
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in with any kind of
prejudice at the beginning.
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The writing is that good".
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And he went, "OK, great.
That's fantastic.
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You're not the casting director.
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Shut the fuck up.
Do the film".
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And I went, "OK, I'm in."
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Such a great film.
Yeah, it was a lovely thing to do.
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Ellen, can we talk about
Dory in Finding Nemo?
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We can.
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Yeah, because everyone
loves that film.
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Is it true...
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APPLAUSE.
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There you go.
So...
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A bit like what Colin
was talking about.
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So the director, Andrew Stanton?
Yes.
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So he rang you out of the blue
to be in this movie or...
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Yeah, it was right after I had come
out and the show had been
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cancelled because...
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Your sitcom.
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My sitcom had been
cancelled because I...
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Gay people don't work in Hollywood.
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So I was sitting at home
and I wasn't getting offers
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and the phone rings and it's this
guy Andrew Stanton, who's this Pixar
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nerd who didn't know anything
about me not being able to work,
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and said, I wrote this
thing with you in mind,
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because he would hear me
in the background on the sitcom
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rambling and even my stand-up.
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I do these things where I just
ramble and forget what I'm saying
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and go back and forth.
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And he said, I'm writing
this character that has
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short-term memory loss.
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And I don't want...
And I don't want to be offensive.
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I'm like trying to do
this in a delicate way.
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And I think you can do it.
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I believe you can forget.
Yes.
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And he was correct.
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And Quentin, I've got
to ask you about the 10th
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film, the final film.
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Have you written it?
Do you know what it is?
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Uh...
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Maybe.
OK.
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All right.
Well, no, no, no, I'm not...
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I'm not trying to be provocative.
491
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,640
I've written a script that
I could do that I really,
492
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,760
really like, but I have to kind
of do the play and see
493
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,960
kind of who I am.
494
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,360
I'll finish the play and then I'll
go back and be with my family
495
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,000
for a while and then live,
and then let's see what
496
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,200
that guy wants to do.
497
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,320
OK.
498
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,000
I should remind everybody,
the Popinjay Cavalier,
499
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640
it starts previews on the 23rd
of February, and it opens
500
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,840
on the 18th of March.
501
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Tickets are on sale now.
Quentin Tarantino, everybody!
502
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:03,120
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
503
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,720
We move on to Colin Farrell.
He brings us an extraordinary story.
504
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,520
It's a documentary called
The Slightest Touch.
505
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,520
It's available to stream on HBO Max
from November the 26th.
506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,400
And this is the story
of you and your friend Emma Fogarty.
507
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280
You'd need a heart of stone not
to cry at this film.
508
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Tell us about your friend
Emma Fogarty and the point
509
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,360
in which we meet her and you.
510
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:33,760
What you want to know about her?
She's amazing.
511
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,680
Emma Fogarty was born
with a condition called
512
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,600
Epidermolysis Bullosa, known as EB,
for obvious reasons.
513
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040
Um, and it is basically
an issue with the collagen,
514
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,880
the proteins between the skin.
515
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440
So basically, if Emma as a child
and anyone who has EB as a child,
516
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840
there are three different types.
She has the most severe.
517
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960
She's one of three people in Ireland
that has the most severe version.
518
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,400
If she bangs her arm off
a table, she'll blister.
519
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,040
The arm will become an open wound.
520
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000
She's not known a day
since she was born
521
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,080
that hasn't been lived with pain
as her constant companion,
522
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240
every second of every
day since she was born.
523
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160
And yet she has lived
the most beautiful,
524
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,480
most meaningful,
most community driven,
525
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,680
cheeky...
She's funny as fuck.
526
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,200
She is so bold.
527
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,880
She's such an incredible
advocate for herself.
528
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Her family have obviously
advocated on her behalf.
529
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,600
I met her 15 years ago.
I sat beside her at a dinner.
530
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,960
She took the piss out of me.
I took the piss out of her.
531
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,440
I was worried,
was that inappropriate?
532
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080
Certainly not inappropriate to
take the piss out of a celebrity.
533
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,720
But I was worried it was
inappropriate to take the piss.
534
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,640
But she laughed,
I laughed, it kept going.
535
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,080
And that was 15 years ago.
536
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,760
And then we started
emailing each other.
537
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,160
And then I'd come home
to Dublin, I'd see her.
538
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560
And long story short,
I said to her in passing
539
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,600
about four years ago,
540
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000
I said, Jeez, we should do
a marathon together someday.
541
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920
And I just didn't
even think about it.
542
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600
And then two years later,
I got a text from her.
543
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560
"Do you remember when
we said you said..."
544
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,680
I thought, "Ah, man."
545
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720
And I said, "I'm in,
I'm in whatever."
546
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120
I said, look, if we're
going to do a marathon,
547
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,520
you and me, we should
do a documentary about it
548
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,560
just for the fun.
549
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200
I was just thinking of fun and raise
some awareness around
550
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,120
Epidermolysis Bullosa
to try and find a cure
551
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,240
and all the things that are needed
for those who suffer with it.
552
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,920
And she went, what do you mean?
553
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320
I said, "I don't know,
we'll try and find someone."
554
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,240
And we found someone.
We found Rachel Flight,
555
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,160
who's an extraordinary
director, and she did a...
556
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040
I had seen her documentary work
before and she came on board.
557
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,080
There was no structure.
558
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760
There was no...
It was all vague.
559
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,800
It was just,
560
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,680
"Rachel, this is Emma, I'm Colin,
we're going to do a marathon.
561
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,360
"And what do you want to do?"
562
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520
And then we opened
up our lives to her.
563
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,720
And it became this documentary.
564
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,360
And it begins with sort of Emma
beating all the odds.
565
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,400
Yeah.
566
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,440
Emma is 40.
Yeah.
567
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,480
She was told...
568
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,880
Her parents were told
to leave her in the hospital
569
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560
and to not bother
taking her home,
570
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,480
that she wasn't
going to last a week.
571
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,400
And so Emma's fingers
now, by the way,
572
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280
she has her fingers and she can move
them under her hands,
573
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,440
but they're all melted together
because of the condition.
574
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,480
It's mad.
575
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600
You'll see in her pictures there
you can see that her hands are,
576
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480
you know, so I'll just do this
for Emma to the doctors.
577
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,680
She very much was like...
578
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,360
You know what I mean?
Like 40.
579
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,400
40...
Yes.
580
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,440
She's 42 now.
581
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,120
She was turning 40 for the marathon.
582
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,760
And the whole idea was
I'd push her the last 4K.
583
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160
Each kilometre representing a decade
that she had survived EB.
584
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320
We've got a little clip.
585
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200
This is you with Emma, and you're
testing out the new wheelchair.
586
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,880
The new wheels,
yeah, the new wheels.
587
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Here we go.
588
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,440
Keep the eye on
the road ahead of you.
589
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320
Exactly.
590
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:37,280
You owe me 20 euro for every pothole
we go by that I don't hit.
591
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,600
How do you feel?
592
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,720
I feel great.
593
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Is it an easy push?
Yeah, it's grand.
594
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,680
It's heavy?
No.
595
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,360
Just made a face behind your back.
596
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,400
Yeah, I know you.
597
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,320
Too easy now.
598
00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:02,160
APPLAUSE
599
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,800
You can tell the
friendship is genuine.
600
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,000
I love her so much.
601
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,160
She's the most inspiring
human being I've ever met,
602
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560
and I've been fortunate
enough to meet a few families
603
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,800
with children who have EB,
604
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,680
and the courage that
they demonstrate every day
605
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,160
is just next level.
It's unimaginable.
606
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,560
We've got a little bit here.
607
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,520
This is you.
You must have been exhausted.
608
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,920
This is right at the end.
609
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320
If you roll the clip
there, we can just see.
610
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480
This is, so you'd
run 38km at this point.
611
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Yeah.
612
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Yeah.
613
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,720
And we've been talking
about it, me and her,
614
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,760
for two years.
615
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,640
And it was a big thing
and it was touch and go
616
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,320
whether we
could do it or not,
617
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,240
because the Dublin Marathon
organisers were really worried.
618
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,440
There was a point
where they said to her,
619
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,080
look, we can't let you run 4K.
620
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,760
We've never had anyone
with Epidermolysis Bullosa
621
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,960
be pushed in a marathon.
622
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,000
If something happens...
623
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,400
I was terrified I was
going to spill her, like.
624
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Yeah.
You know, spill Emma
625
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,640
and that's curtains.
626
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560
As I said in the film,
it's curtains.
627
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,600
It's all, you know?
628
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,480
And so I literally like, Emma is,
is a fully self-realised woman
629
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,440
and she's powerful
as anyone I've ever met,
630
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,480
powerful more than most.
631
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
And I still said to her,
I just have to have
632
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,480
one of your parents at
least tell me it's OK.
633
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,120
Just one of your parents.
And her mother came on, Pat,
634
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,040
and she went, "Yeah,
of course it's OK."
635
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Why wouldn't she?
I mean,
636
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960
she can't just do nothing, you know?
637
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,960
She wants to do...
638
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,880
Look at what she's
done with her life.
639
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,280
Of course it's OK, Colin,
aye, and off she went.
640
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200
I was like, we also
should say, yeah...
641
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,240
You're raising awareness.
642
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,880
But you also, we should say raised
over a million euros.
643
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,080
A million euro,
yeah, man.
644
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,120
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
645
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,360
That's the two of you.
646
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,960
I know the people of Ireland
really got out behind us.
647
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600
We did a media blitz the two weeks
before the marathon.
648
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,640
Sorry, love?
649
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,560
I would love if we
could raise awareness
650
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,680
for something for you to
push me in a marathon.
651
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,280
I will, definitely, but you have
to say bye-bye to everyone.
652
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,960
26.2 fucking miles, 26.2 miles.
653
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600
I'd pay money for that.
Yeah, I'd donate money for that.
654
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Yeah.
655
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,320
And the thing that struck me, it's
obviously the story of Emma Fogarty
656
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,480
but I was really surprised that
it's so much about you as well.
657
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320
There's a lot of your personal life
and your family and stuff.
658
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Were you...
659
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320
I wasn't a big fan of that part.
660
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Is that, what, you didn't
sign up for that?
661
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,520
I did sign up.
662
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440
I can't blame anyone
because the damn thing
663
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160
was my idea, you know?
664
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800
So I don't know where to throw
the stone, mirror, but...
665
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
But I knew that I was
going to have to open up
666
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320
a bit of my life to get
her story out there.
667
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480
And then our director
is just so damn loving
668
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,520
and empathetic, Rachel.
669
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600
And so, so decent, fundamentally.
670
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,480
There was never any kind
of journalistic angle
671
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,720
she was trying to take.
672
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360
And she was over in my house
and we'd have conversations.
673
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760
And then things turned
to my dad and my kids,
674
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,200
and yes, I end up blubbering.
675
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600
For the majority, we all do.
676
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560
I mean, but it's such
an inspiring film.
677
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200
It really is such a hopeful...
I'm delighted you think that.
678
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,360
You should be so proud of it.
Thanks, man.
679
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,520
I'm delighted you think that.
Thank you, thank you.
680
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Talking of marathons,
681
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,160
is it your mum who's marathon crazy?
682
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,040
My mum has run over 100 marathons.
No!
683
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:05,640
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
684
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,640
She's over 100.
685
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520
And she only started running
when my sister and I left home.
686
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,600
No way!
687
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,240
And she joined a local running club.
688
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,280
That's so cool.
689
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720
She keeps pitching me each
year saying we should do
690
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,720
a mother-daughter marathon.
691
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,280
And I'm like, maybe next year!
692
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,360
As you're on telly,
see what she says now.
693
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,640
Maybe you can push me!
694
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Graham.
695
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Yeah?
I hate to do this.
696
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,720
I have to take a pee so bad.
697
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Go pee.
698
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:39,360
There's nothing worse.
There's nothing worse.
699
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,800
When you gotta go, you gotta go.
700
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160
You gotta go,
you gotta go, gotta go.
701
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Stop drinking these!
702
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,120
Do you know what I think it is?
703
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,560
The difference between performers
and directors
704
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,640
because he's not
used to having to hold his pee.
705
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600
We're all used to
holding all that pee.
706
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,720
Exactly.
Yeah.
707
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280
He should have thought of that
before he came out here.
708
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Yeah.
709
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280
I've gone to the toilet
twice sitting here!
710
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
I would love to know
how many countries are...
711
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Did you run marathons
all over the world?
712
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,400
Yes, I did.
713
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Whereabouts?
Give me a couple of places.
714
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,760
All over the States.
All over Europe.
715
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Hong Kong.
Marrakech.
716
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,960
You did Marrakech?
Yeah.
717
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Oh, and I did Dublin.
Did you?
718
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Yeah.
719
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080
It was a raining or no?
Was it all right?
720
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,240
It was OK, actually.
It's flat enough, isn't it?
721
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,280
It's flat enough.
722
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,360
And what's your best time?
3:43.
723
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Oh, that's amazing.
Really good.
724
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,000
ELLEN: Has your father done the run?
725
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,440
He likes to cycle.
That's OK.
726
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Can I just say you are going to end
up running more marathons?
727
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Just stop talking to
people about marathons!
728
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
I know, yeah.
Where do you want to go next?
729
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760
I'm free in February.
730
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200
I think Quentin's doing
a number two, by the way!
731
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,200
LAUGHTER
732
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,600
I got so...
I got so...
733
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200
I got so...
734
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,240
I'll tell him.
735
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,640
I tell him I said that
when he comes out
736
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,080
because I don't want to be...
737
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,280
His finest work.
Yeah, yeah.
738
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Needs to sign it.
739
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Wait, here he is now!
Yay!
740
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,040
I said he's probably
doing a number two.
741
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840
No, no, no!
742
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,960
It literally was
a situation where I had
743
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,800
to go so bad that I was actually
like, argh, let go.
744
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,480
I had to talk myself down.
745
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960
It was all good.
746
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Yeah, yeah, I apologise.
Very bad etiquette.
747
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,760
You're good, you're good,
but don't have any more to drink!
748
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,040
We're done.
We're done.
749
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Now, Gemma Chan.
750
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Gemma Chan's latest film is such
a powerful, beautiful film.
751
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
It is called Josephine.
It's in cinemas from November 20th.
752
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320
I know this is a film
you care deeply about.
753
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920
So tell us who you play,
and who Josephine is.
754
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480
Yeah,
755
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,880
so Josephine is
a psychological thriller.
756
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080
It is loosely inspired
by an experience
757
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:04,040
that our director, Beth de Araujo,
had in her childhood.
758
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,680
And it's about how
an eight-year-old girl witnesses
759
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560
a brutal crime and her mind spirals,
and it's about her journey
760
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,000
of resilience to
overcoming her fear.
761
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360
And Channing Tatum and I play her
parents who both love her very much,
762
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000
but they don't agree
on the best way to help her.
763
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Well, actually, that's a very good
kind of intro into the clip we have.
764
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,720
This is you and Channing Tatum
with the daughter,
765
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Josephine, disagreeing.
766
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,600
Um...
767
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,840
Jojo, do you have any
questions about today?
768
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,960
When can I have a gun?
769
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:48,000
I do not want those in the house.
I don't care even if they are a toy.
770
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
I think it's absolutely absurd that
they even make them for children.
771
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Jo.
772
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040
It's the job of parents
to keep kids safe.
773
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,720
Where were her parents in the park?
774
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Jojo,
that's never going to happen to you.
775
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,800
Ever.
You can't say that to her.
776
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480
I absolutely can say that to her.
777
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,120
Ooh.
778
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,120
APPLAUSE
779
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,640
And the story...
780
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,840
The story is really compelling.
781
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960
But we've got to talk about that
little girl played by Mason Reeves.
782
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,400
She is extraordinary.
Oh, my goodness.
783
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,800
She just blew us away.
784
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,920
When we filmed she turned eight,
and Beth actually found her
785
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,560
in a farmers' market
in San Francisco.
786
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,720
So she was looking for
someone who looked like
787
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,400
the love child of
myself and Channing.
788
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,440
So tell me this...
789
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840
So, they cast they cast
you and Channing Tatum first,
790
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,200
and then had to find a kid that
looked like you might have had.
791
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,240
Yes.
792
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,400
So I was actually,
I joined the project and
793
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,560
I got sent the script in 2019.
So it was a winding road.
794
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560
We almost made it
795
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,240
and then Covid happened
and the strikes
796
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,960
and it fell apart a few times.
797
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,320
And Beth went and made another film,
which is brilliant.
798
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
It's called Soft and Quiet.
It's a one-take film.
799
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,560
If you haven't seen it,
you absolutely should.
800
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,760
And then Channing joined,
801
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,920
and then we were six weeks out
from shooting,
802
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560
and we still didn't have
the little girl because the girl
803
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200
who we had originally cast
had aged out of the role.
804
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,240
Yeah.
805
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:15,520
So Beth went to this farmers' market
806
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,960
that was like at the intersection
807
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
between a very a Caucasian area
and an East Asian area.
808
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000
And she said, I'm just
going to find her here.
809
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,200
She sat...
She sat in.
810
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,880
That sounds like good
casting actually, and.
811
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,920
Just was watching.
812
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,840
And then this little
girl just ran past.
813
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,720
And you know, Josephine, the girl
in the film, she's a tomboy.
814
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,760
She's very physically active.
815
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,200
And she just had that energy.
816
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,080
And so she just chased
after her and went off and said,
817
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,520
you know, who are your parents?
818
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
And Mason was like,
who the hell are you,
819
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,720
strange lady?
820
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,120
So I went and spoke
to the mum and said,
821
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040
I'm looking for someone
to play the daughter
822
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,200
of Channing Tatum and Gemma Chan,
and they just thought
823
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,840
she was making it up like,
yeah, like, as you would.
824
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,720
And then they, they sent a tape
in for her and she...
825
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,400
Yeah, she was just brilliant.
She's incredible.
826
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080
It's one of the best
child performances...
827
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,120
She's never acted before?
828
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,400
It's her first film.
829
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,280
Did she find it hard?
830
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
Were there scenes that she was
really struggling with?
831
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,400
Never, never is the truth.
832
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040
I mean, I should say that,
you know, our film deals
833
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,480
with some very challenging
subject matter,
834
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360
but it was very important that
she was protected and felt safe.
835
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,280
So she never read
the script in full.
836
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,320
Her parents were around?
837
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000
We always had her mother or her
father or both on set, every day.
838
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Yeah, we wanted to make sure
she didn't read the script in full,
839
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,800
she's never
seen the film in full.
840
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160
And, you know, we used a bit of VFX
to put her into scenes
841
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,880
that she didn't want her to see.
842
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,280
So yeah, it's really so important.
843
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,040
You must be so gratified
that, you know,
844
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,840
given, as you say, it was not easy
to get this film made, that it's had
845
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,880
such a great response.
846
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640
It premiered at Sundance
and it did so well.
847
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,320
It's brilliant.
I saw it, it's magnificent.
848
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,520
It's devastating,
but it's brilliant.
849
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,480
It really is.
You're all...
850
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Yeah, thank you.
851
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Was amazing to watch
it with an audience there
852
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,840
for the first time.
And the response was incredible.
853
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480
And we see you flex
your ballet muscles in this film.
854
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,360
I do.
855
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
So I play a character
that is inspired by Beth's mum
856
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,480
who was a ballet dancer.
857
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880
And so Beth spoke to me
and said, you know,
858
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,160
I really think you need
to dance in this film.
859
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,600
We're going to have to film.
860
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,720
And I was like, hold on,
we have Magic Mike in the movie
861
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,120
and you want ME to dance?
Like, are you serious?
862
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080
APPLAUSE
863
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,440
So she was like...
864
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560
It comes at an emotional point,
like a mid point of the film.
865
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480
So yeah, I worked with
an amazing choreographer
866
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,560
called Katerina Beckman,
and they whipped me into shape.
867
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Had you done ballet before?
868
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,720
I did ballet until
I was 11 years old
869
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,400
and then had...
So you had some.
870
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,080
It was there.
I was very rusty.
871
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,240
They make me look much
better than I was.
872
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,160
Was Channing there on the day?
He was.
873
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520
And he was like, thank God,
874
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,400
I can just sit back
and I don't have to do this!
875
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,840
He was so happy about it.
876
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,520
You dance with him,
Ellen, didn't you?
877
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,720
You danced with Channing Tatum.
878
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,720
I have danced with Channing Tatum
and actually on one of
879
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,880
his Magic Mike performances.
880
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,320
I was on stage with him.
881
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Really?
Yeah.
882
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,640
I didn't know that.
883
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000
Yeah, we took the show to Vegas
and we did a thing, and, um...
884
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Yeah.
885
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,200
So were you taking his
clothes off or something?
886
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,240
Kind of!
OK!
887
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,160
But wait.
Graham, you've danced with him.
888
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,720
I've seen a clip of you!
889
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,640
No, he danced with me.
890
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,360
I've worked with Channing.
I've never danced with him!
891
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,560
Excuse me.
I missed out.
892
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920
It's a missed opportunity.
893
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800
And, Ellen, because you spent
so much of your life on television.
894
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,880
Like, do you miss it?
Um, yeah, I miss a lot about it.
895
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,760
I miss the, you know,
I miss laughing
896
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,200
every single day with the writers.
897
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600
And I miss the guests,
ad I miss kissing Colin.
898
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040
I miss a lot of it.
899
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,200
And I think about
doing something here.
900
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,960
It does seem...it does seem easy
to get on television here because...
901
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,000
Charming!
902
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080
I mean...
903
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200
I just called you up and I said,
I have nothing to promote.
904
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Can I just sit on the couch?
905
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,360
And you're like, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
906
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080
So...
It's true!
907
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,880
No.
908
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,960
I mean, you know,
I mean, there are shows here
909
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,800
that I'm just shocked that
someone went and sold it and,
910
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480
you know, like,
there's a sewing show.
911
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,640
So you're watching someone sew.
912
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080
There's a pottery
show where there's...
913
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,240
There are things, there's
a show of watching people
914
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,400
watch television, like...
915
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,000
And I'm like, I could
just come up with like,
916
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,080
I mean, I mow every
day, I like to mow.
917
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,440
And I thought people could mow,
and see how long you disassociate
918
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360
from your family, because that's
what you're doing.
919
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520
You're out there just
by yourself and the lawn.
920
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,240
As long as you can be out there.
921
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,120
And I can call it Lawn And Order.
922
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Oh!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
923
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,720
There will be an email in your inbox
before you leave the set!
924
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,760
Tomorrow, yeah.
925
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Well, it's so lovely
to have you here
926
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,600
and good luck with
whatever you do next.
927
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Ellen DeGeneres, everybody!
928
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,240
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
929
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,920
Right, it's time for music.
930
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960
This band won the prestigious
Mercury Prize
931
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,800
for their debut
album 33 years ago,
932
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,400
and this year
they are up for another one.
933
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Here, performing their single
Dancing With The Europeans,
934
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:17,880
please welcome Suede!
935
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,440
# On the road
we'll run like a river.
936
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
# With the headlights
on like a river, we'll run.
937
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,840
# Like a river,
I'll run back to you.
938
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120
# I'll run like a river.
939
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,360
# Through the parks
and through the pavilions.
940
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,320
# Through the countryside
like a human tide.
941
00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:00,960
# Like a river tonight, we'll run,
we'll run like a river.
942
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:08,240
# There's something inside
that craves the artificial life.
943
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:16,280
# There's something inside the
craves the blue and yellow lights.
944
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,240
# Oh, with a European
stain within me
945
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:28,200
# And a European suffering in me,
Dancing with the Europeans.
946
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:39,480
# I got a European stain within me
and a European suffering.
947
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,240
# I want to be dancing
with the Europeans.
948
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:50,560
# And the road will
run like a river.
949
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,400
# And we want to be strong
and we want to belong.
950
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,560
# To belong to the road
and the rails.
951
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,000
# To belong to the rhythm.
952
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,240
# With the soldiers
and the civilians.
953
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,680
# Well, the flesh might die.
954
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,120
# But our love will survive.
955
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,880
# When you're by my side.
956
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,840
# Well, death
shall have no dominion.
957
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,720
# There's something inside
that craves the simulated life.
958
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:31,000
# There's something inside that
likes white artificial lights.
959
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,960
# Oh, with a European stain
within me
960
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,880
# And a European suffering in me
961
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,480
# Dancing with the Europeans
962
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:53,440
# I got a European stain within me
and a European suffering
963
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,920
# Dancing with the Europeans
964
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,440
# Sing it.
965
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,440
# Dancing with the Europeans
966
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:17,440
# Dancing with the Europeans
967
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:25,080
# Dancing with the Europeans
968
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:33,000
# Dancing with the Europeans
969
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:41,520
# Your ghosts are my ghosts.
#
970
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Thank you.
971
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Suede, everybody!
972
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,840
Great job.
973
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
I think, Brett, you're
coming over to see us.
974
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,080
Here comes Brett.
975
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,880
Hello, sir.
976
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,800
Lovely to see you.
Very kind of you.
977
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Hello, everyone.
978
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,240
This is Ellen.
Hello.
979
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:06,280
Lovely to meet you.
980
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160
How do you do?
981
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,320
Have a seat.
One of those drinks is yours.
982
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,000
Is it, like, lucky dip?
983
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,880
Yeah, really.
984
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Thank you so much for being here
and doing that performance.
985
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,560
It's been a while.
986
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960
I think it's 23 years
since you were last on.
987
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Yes, it was.
988
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,760
And now, I hesitate to bring this up
because on the show
989
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,360
we had a lovely time with you,
but the band had a less lovely time.
990
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,800
Yeah, I'm not blaming
you specifically,
991
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
but last time we were
on here, we split up.
992
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,640
That's actually true.
993
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,600
It is, really.
Yeah, it's actually true.
994
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,000
We had a...
Did you used to film it here?
995
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,160
I can't remember.
No, we were in London studios.
996
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,640
We've got a picture of you.
997
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520
You could sort of tell
something was off.
998
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,800
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
999
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,480
You don't look like a happy band.
1000
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,800
Yeah.
1001
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,560
So was there a fight,
or you just decided, "We've
1002
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960
reached a low ebb, we're on
the Graham Norton Show?"
1003
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Well, you know, more bands
should split up, to be honest.
1004
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,760
It's one of those.
It was a mercy killing.
1005
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,840
How long did you stay split up for?
1006
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Seven or eight years, I think.
1007
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,640
And then we reformed
for Teenage Cancer Trust.
1008
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,400
They said, "Come
and do a show",
1009
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,040
and then we were just going
to do, like, a one-off
1010
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,040
show for teenage cancer.
1011
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,920
And it sort of, I don't know.
Couldn't leave it alone, really.
1012
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,080
It's kind of adorable
that you got back together
1013
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,920
and kind of went,
"Actually, we miss each other".
1014
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,120
Yeah.
No, it was lovely.
1015
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,520
And then we started making
new records and, you know,
1016
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,400
and here we are.
1017
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,320
And that's everything that's
happened in my life
1018
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,760
up until this point.
1019
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,840
Here we are, tenth studio album -
Antidepressants.
1020
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Your debut album was nominated
for the Mercury Prize
1021
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,360
and now you are nominated again.
1022
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,440
Debut album WON the Mercury Prize.
1023
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Oh, you won it!
Goddamn it, they won it!
1024
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,640
APPLAUSE
1025
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,080
There you are with the prize.
1026
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,560
With the prize.
1027
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000
So, 33 years later, do
you care more or less?
1028
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,920
I think you care more
because it's very,
1029
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920
very, very rare for bands,
1030
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,840
33 years after winning
the Mercury Music Prize,
1031
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,360
to still be relevant.
1032
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,640
And I think one of the reasons
that we're still here now
1033
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,040
is because we approach
the new music we're making now
1034
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,160
as passionately as we ever have.
1035
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560
And in a way, I think
we've reinvented our sound
1036
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000
and all these kind of things.
1037
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,680
So I'm very, very proud of that,
1038
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,320
it's kind of like a symbol
of recognition in a way.
1039
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,720
And you've got some die-hard fans
in the audience tonight.
1040
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:32,760
CHEERING
1041
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,960
There they are.
1042
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600
And I'm guessing they might be
showing up for your tour.
1043
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,000
You're heading out on tour
with the Manic Street Preachers.
1044
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,040
That's right, yeah.
1045
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,080
Very good.
1046
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,120
MORE CHEERING
1047
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Yes.
Is that...?
1048
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120
That's me, yeah.
1049
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,320
No, that's now.
That's this October.
1050
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,160
That's me with the microphone there.
1051
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,480
Like I'm eating a big
piece of spaghetti.
1052
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,120
Like Lady And The Tramp.
It's adorable.
1053
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,360
So when is the Mercury
Prize announced?
1054
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,760
Oh, it's next week, isn't it?
Next Thursday, I think.
1055
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,240
Oh, is it?
Yeah, yeah.
1056
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,160
Oh, well, good luck.
It's up in Newcastle.
1057
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,600
Are you going to come?
Yes.
1058
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Oh, no.
I'm working.
1059
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:13,240
Oh.
Good luck with the Mercury Prize.
1060
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,640
Thank you very much.
I hope you pull it off.
1061
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,840
That'd be amazing.
We won't.
1062
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,560
Good luck with the tour.
1063
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,720
Thank you for that performance.
Thank you so much.
1064
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,960
Suede, everybody!
1065
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840
OK, that is nearly it.
1066
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,880
Before we go,
1067
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520
just time for a quick visit
to the Big Red Chair!
1068
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,680
Who do we have?
Hello?
1069
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,720
Hello.
Hi.
1070
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:32,920
What's your name?
I'm Renee.
1071
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Renee.
Lovely.
1072
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Where are you from, Renee?
I'm from New Zealand.
1073
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Fabulous.
Home of the anecdote.
1074
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,240
And, do you live here now, Renee?
Yes, I'm here now.
1075
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,800
Oh, love, she's here now.
Yeah.
1076
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,440
What do you do here, Renee?
1077
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,320
I work as a customer experience lead
at a health tech start-up.
1078
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,280
Sweet Jesus.
Pop that on a business card.
1079
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200
OK, Renee,
off you go with your story.
1080
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,240
Yeah.
1081
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,720
So I've been in London
just under a year,
1082
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,800
but a couple of months
into moving here,
1083
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,720
I decided to get on the dating apps,
1084
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,400
downloaded the top three
that everyone uses,
1085
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,840
cycled through every one.
Wow.
1086
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,520
Yeah.
Busy, busy, busy.
1087
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,800
Yeah, so then I decided
to narrow my search
1088
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,720
into downloading an app
that's for South Asians
1089
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,120
that are based
all around the world.
1090
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,880
And I came across my
cousin on there.
1091
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040
So I noped out of that
because absolutely not,
1092
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,080
do not need that,
1093
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880
and then went back to
one of the other apps
1094
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520
and turns out one of the other
apps had marked him
1095
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,000
as my most compatible.
1096
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040
And yeah, I messaged
him and he said,
1097
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,680
"Yeah, I saw you and it said
that you're the most
1098
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,880
compatible for me as well".
1099
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,960
And now they're married.
1100
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,760
No, we're not!
1101
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,080
That's a bit creepy.
1102
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,120
OK, there we go.
1103
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200
That is really all
we've got time for.
1104
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,360
Please say thank you
to all of my guests.
1105
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,240
Suede, everybody!
1106
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,520
Ellen DeGeneres!
1107
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,720
Gemma Chan!
1108
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,080
Colin Farrell!
1109
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:10,040
And Quentin Tarantino.
1110
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,080
Join me next week with
music from Jorja Smith,
1111
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Aussie conservationist Robert Irwin,
1112
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,800
Ted Lasso star Hannah Waddingham
1113
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,360
and double Oscar
winner Cate Blanchett.
1114
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,040
I'll see you then.
Good night, everybody.
1115
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:27,880
Bye bye!