1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,880 This programme contains some strong language. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,800 Hi, everybody. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,440 This is Quentin Tarantino welcoming you to The Graham Norton Show. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,560 Why? 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Because we love making talk shows! 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,520 APPLAUSE. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Roll cameras! 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,840 Oh, hello! Hi. 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,840 Oh! So lovely to see you all. 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,200 Hello. Hello. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Hi. 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,320 Thank you very much for being here. Good evening. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,080 You're all very welcome to the show. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,480 Such a great show tonight. 15 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:55,600 I tell you, I couldn't be more excited if I was Ross Kemp 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 on Celebrity Traitors. 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Good luck! 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,960 Singing for us tonight, look over there, it's Suede! 19 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:10,320 Yeah, they'll be singing their track Dancing with the Europeans. 20 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,200 But first on my sofa tonight, this comedian and sitcom star won 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,080 a whopping 64 Daytime Emmy Awards with a hugely successful talk show, 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:23,640 broke records with her star-studded Oscars selfie. 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 And as Dory in Finding Nemo, she taught us all to 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,280 just keep swimming. 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,000 It is a warm, first-time welcome to Ellen DeGeneres. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,080 I know! Hello. 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:42,040 So good to see you. 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Have a seat. I know! 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,880 This model and actor broke onto the scene in Humans and shot 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,360 to fame as Astrid in the smash hit Crazy Rich Asians. 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Now she brings us the heartbreaking drama Josephine. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,120 It's another first time welcome to Gemma Chan! 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Oh! Whoa! 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:10,320 Mwah, mwah! 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,920 This Irish star made us laugh in In Bruges, 37 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,320 cry in the Banshees of Inisherin and say "That's Colin 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Farrell" in The Penguin. 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Now he's running the Dublin Marathon with his friend and disability 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,480 campaigner Emma Fogarty in the documentary 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,520 The Slightest Touch. 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Always a pleasure to welcome Colin Farrell! 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,320 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,360 There he is. Hello, sir. 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Great to have you here. 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Hello. 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,280 And he's the two-time Oscar and BAFTA-winning director 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,440 and writer behind films like the iconic Pulp Fiction, 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Django Unchained, Inglourious Basterds 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,400 and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,560 His latest creation is a swashbuckling West End play, 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,600 The Popinjay Cavalier. 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Please welcome the great Quentin Tarantino. 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,280 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Here he comes. 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Hello. Good to see you. 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:10,440 There you go. 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Oh, lovely to see you all. I know - you picked a good night. 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,680 You picked a good night. 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Welcome back to Quentin and Colin. 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 First time welcome to Gemma. First time welcome to Ellen. 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Hello. Hello. 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 And I'm so pleased you're here. 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 And I don't want this to sound unfriendly in any way, 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 but why are you here? 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,760 I have nothing going on and I miss being on TV, so I thought 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,200 I would just come on. 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Great! 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,040 And of course, the big news is you now live amongst us. 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,960 You're in the UK. I live here now. 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Yeah, I love it. 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,720 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,360 So, do you live on a farm? 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,240 Well, we first moved to the Cotswolds, so we have a farm 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,680 and we live in the Cotswolds. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,840 But then we have a place here as well. 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,680 So when we want to be on the farm and have farm life, we have that. 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,000 And then when we want to see people with teeth, we come here. 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,480 That's a joke. They have teeth. 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,480 Burning crosses outside your house. 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Go home tomorrow! It's like, what happened? 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Well, we're happy to have you. 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,040 And here's the thing, Gemma Chan has quite an odd 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,080 connection to Colin Farrell. 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Do you know this? 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,800 No. It's quite convoluted. 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Let's do it. It's live television. 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,320 All right. Buckle up. 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,680 I have a rescue cat called Mr Kitty, who's five years old, from Puglia. 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,120 He has a short, stubby tail. 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 He had an accident. God is in the details. 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,120 We've got a picture of Mr Kitty. 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,200 There he is. There he is. 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:50,080 He looks like he did some MDMA. That looks like a painting. 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Oh, my God. 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,560 I wouldn't go to sleep if that cat was in the house. 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,560 He's a sweetheart. He's a very sweet boy. 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,280 Anyway, he has terrible balance. 99 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,680 And he had an accident and he hurt his leg, 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 and he was maybe going to lose that leg. 101 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,480 But we managed to get hold of Noel Fitzpatrick, the Supervet, 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,560 who saved the leg and gave him a hip replacement. 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,040 But Noel Fitzpatrick, I've heard, is only a vet 104 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,640 because he was an aspiring actor, but he lost out on a role 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,040 to you in Ballykissangel, and so indirectly, thanks to you, 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Mr Kitty has his leg. 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,480 You're very, very welcome. 108 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,120 What a great story! Shaggy dog story. 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Shaggy cat story. 110 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,520 And now, Ellen, you do know Colin Farrell? 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,920 I do, yeah. Colin's been on the show many times. 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Like, you've been on The Ellen Show more than you've been 113 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,960 on this and that's a lot. 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,040 How many times? 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,160 And we've never kissed, you and I. But we'll get to that later. 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,360 How many times? Ten, 15? 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,240 You've been on, I'd say 15 times you were on the show. 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,280 Yeah. 119 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:53,440 And the kissing. What's the thing about the kissing? 120 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,640 What? I have no idea. 121 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 What is the thing about the kissing? What are you talking about? 122 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Well, we've got clips. 123 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,000 This is Ellen meeting Colin on the show, and a similar thing 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,840 seems to happen each time. 125 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,720 So this is... 126 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,360 ..I think this is the first time Colin's on the show. 127 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Was it you? 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Well, this is the very first time - I think it was you. 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Look at you. 130 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,600 And now... 131 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Oh, you pulled me in. Oh my goodness! 132 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:29,200 There's more. Wow! 133 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,280 I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. 134 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:37,880 I feel like maybe we should swap places. 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,680 The first guy was drunk Colin, he was a lot less 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,840 shy than sober Colin - came out for the kiss like this. 137 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:46,000 Were you drunk that first time? Oh, hell, yeah. 138 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Really? I was always drunk. 139 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,240 No. Or hungover. 140 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Which is a kind of a mild form of being drunk. 141 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,040 I thought you were sober since I've known you. 142 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,920 Not then. No. 143 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,040 Well, I don't know how it started. It was just a mutual attraction. 144 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,120 You grabbed the back of my head. I think we saw. 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Yeah. 146 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:07,480 I have breath mints here, just in case later on. 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,040 Wow. Yeah. 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,560 When those glasses are all empty... 149 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:16,320 I'll start with the martini, then! 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 How did it happen? It was just organic. 151 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Were you ever on The Ellen Show? 152 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,280 I was never asked. I don't know why that is. 153 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,320 I have no... 154 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,480 No, no, no, I don't mean it like that. 155 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 No, I know. 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,280 As we know, there are producers that bring you people and I don't know 157 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,480 why you weren't on it. 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,880 I actually, you know, I mean, I was always kind 159 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,560 of hoping to be on your show. 160 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,600 I don't know. 161 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Well, I'm so glad we're meeting now. 162 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,200 I don't know why you wouldn't have been. 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Let's look into this. Now I'm angry. 164 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,560 It might have been the kissing. 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,920 We don't know. 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,560 One of your routines in the early part of your career 167 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,720 was one of my favourite, acting little set pieces 168 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,840 where you play the flight attendant right at the end of the flight. 169 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 170 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Goodbye. See-ya, bye-bye. 171 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,960 Goodbye. 172 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,360 That's really one of my favourite bits from the '90s. 173 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Thank you very much. 174 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,720 Very good. 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,680 He does impressions now! Very good! 176 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,080 It's true. It's like I just... 177 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,760 My stuff is observational because I'm looking 178 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,120 at everyone's side of it. 179 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,240 And I just think we're walking out and we just hear the bye-bye. 180 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,120 But that flight attendant has to say that to all 170 people. 181 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,320 So they're standing there, bye-bye. 182 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye... 183 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Thank you. 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Bye-bye, bye-bye. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye... 185 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:40,840 Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye... 186 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,600 APPLAUSE. 187 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Thank you! 188 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,560 You gave me a nice little greatest hits. 189 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:50,600 That was lovely. 190 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,000 Now... 191 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Ellen claims she's here with nothing to talk about. 192 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,320 Quentin Tarantino, au contraire. 193 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,920 You have a lot to talk about! So let's get started. 194 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,360 We begin with a play. Yes, a play. 195 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,360 It's called The Popinjay Cavalier. 196 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,680 It's opening at the Phoenix Theatre in London early next year. 197 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,560 So I guess the first question is like, how did this happen? 198 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,720 How did Quentin Tarantino end up writing a play 199 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,400 and putting it on the West End? 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Well, the thing about it was, I've been wanting to write a play 201 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,960 for a while, and then I came up with this idea and I wrote it. 202 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:32,440 And I think, because it's kind of like a jumping off 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 on swashbuckler movies and everything, I think 204 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,080 when I first started writing it, at least for like the first third, 205 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,400 I guess, what would be the first act, I wrote it as a screenplay. 206 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Oh, OK. 207 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,400 And then I was like, "No, there's something 208 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,280 about this character, there's something huge about this 209 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,400 character that if a comic actor were to play them on stage 210 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,240 in the room, eight shows a week, and you came up there 211 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,400 and you saw it back and forth, you know, with a real live 212 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 audience every time, it would be different than a movie - 213 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:07,400 that this might be the one to do as a play." 214 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,200 And so then for the rest of it, I just started writing it as a play. 215 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,360 And I was very, very happy with the results. 216 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,360 And who is starring? 217 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,600 I'm very excited to say it's Sacha Baron Cohen. 218 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,560 APPLAUSE. 219 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,880 And can you tell us? It's swashbuckling. 220 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,840 It's set in the 19th century. Yeah. 221 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Can you tell us anything about the story at all? 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,320 I want to kind of keep that a little bit under wraps. 223 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,160 OK. No, fair enough. 224 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,400 But there is a... 225 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Say no more! There is... 226 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,960 ..it's jumping off from the swashbuckling genre. 227 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 But there is a real French farce quality to it. 228 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,640 And you're directing it as well? Yeah, yeah. 229 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,360 But you've never directed a play before? 230 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,000 No, I've never directed a play before. 231 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Do you think that'll be hard? 232 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,120 No, I don't think so. I don't think so. 233 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,000 It's like... Well, well... 234 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,920 That's not arrogant, I actually... 235 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,040 But you never directed a film before - what was your first film? 236 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Reservoir Dogs. 237 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,120 APPLAUSE. 238 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,800 You'll be all right. That's a good point. 239 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,040 But, I mean, the thing is, as far as I get being in, 240 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,960 you know, these limited, you know, limited spaces, 241 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,440 I can't go everywhere. 242 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Well, I kind of figure that out on the page, 243 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,720 and that's kind of how I always do it in a movie. 244 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,320 I kind of figure it out on the page, and then I do it on, 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,560 you know, on the screen. 246 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,400 So here, I figured it out on the page, so it works 247 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,080 as a play or it doesn't work. 248 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,280 And I think it does. 249 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,920 And so now it's just about just getting with the actors 250 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,960 and just working it. 251 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,120 And then the idea of like eight weeks rehearsal 252 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,320 is a luxury in movies. 253 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,400 Yeah. 254 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,600 It's a full-on comedy. OK. 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,880 I mean, like the issue is if we do our job correctly, is... 256 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,040 They'll miss some of the dialogue because the laughter 257 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,680 will be so tumultuous! 258 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:52,320 Well, no, I mean, even I'm even more specific about it. 259 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,680 It's like we're gonna have to add 25 minutes for the laughs. 260 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:59,960 So I've got to take out 25 minutes of material. 261 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,600 Yeah, do that. Short is great. 262 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,240 OK. 263 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,960 I've seen 15 shows since I've been in the West End. 264 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,040 Nothing wrong with short. 265 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,760 No one ever complained about a play being short. 266 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,840 If only there'd been a third act...! 267 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 But now, Quentin, you are still making movies. 268 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Your latest is the Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth. 269 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,080 And this is in IMAX from November 25th. 270 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Now this... 271 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,080 You're getting around the not making your 10th film. 272 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,680 I've come up with a slippery, greasy pig loophole. 273 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you wrote this film. 274 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,080 It's a spin-off from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. 275 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,760 It's the Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth. 276 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,320 But the key is you haven't directed it. 277 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Well, I don't know if that's the KEY! 278 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 All right. But I haven't directed it. 279 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,160 You have not directed. David Fincher has. 280 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,720 Yeah. Well, and the thing about it is... 281 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,760 He's my favourite director, aside from myself, working. 282 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,520 And so when Brad suggested, "What about David doing it?" 283 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,240 And I go... 284 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,640 This is Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt, Cliff Booth. 285 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,280 All right. 286 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 I go, wow, if you think he would be interested, yeah. 287 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,960 All right. 288 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,400 And then he read the script and he was interested. 289 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,800 And we got together and talked. 290 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,960 And it was just a marriage made in heaven. 291 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,240 So what's happening to Cliff Booth now? 292 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,600 This is set about eight years later? Yeah, yeah, it takes place in 1977. 293 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,640 And Cliff's not really... 294 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,160 ..he's not really a stuntman that much anymore. 295 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,240 He has more like a series of odd jobs that he does every 296 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,320 week and everything. 297 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,480 And so that kind of helps make his nut. 298 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 But one of the things that he does is, you know, 299 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,600 he knows different people in the industry that are genuine 300 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,440 friends, genuine friends. 301 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,320 And when people in the Hollywood industry kind of end up crossing 302 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,720 over to the wild side and get themselves into trouble, 303 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:02,680 Cliff is the kind of guy who can get them out. 304 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,280 OK. 305 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,680 I'll tell you what, to give us a feel for what the movie's like, 306 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:12,720 here's a little taste of the trailer... 307 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,120 You heard the story about Bruce Lee getting his ass 308 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,160 kicked by a stuntman? 309 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Oh, yeah. This is the guy! 310 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Evening, fellas. 311 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,200 Do I know you from somewhere? 312 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Name's Cliff. 313 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Who's not drunk? 314 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,040 I lost count of how many jokers I killed on TV. 315 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,080 But you... 316 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,160 You actually killed people. 317 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Let's just say I know what it's like to kill someone with a knife. 318 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:59,480 APPLAUSE. 319 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 And you've done this thing - you did it with Once Upon a Time 320 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,640 in Hollywood, you've done a novelisation... 321 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Yes, I have. ..of the book. 322 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,880 And the movie theatre that's in the film and on the cover 323 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,000 of the book, this is a good bit of Hollywood trivia, you own it? 324 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Yes, I own the New Beverly. All right. 325 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,800 If you're in Los Angeles, we're a revival house and we only 326 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,840 show on 35 millimetre film, sometimes on 16. 327 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,280 All right. But only on film. 328 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,920 And if you're in Los Angeles, please check us out. 329 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Have you ever been there? Yeah, it's great. 330 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Have you been there? Yes? 331 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Fantastic. 332 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,800 And there's another - the Vista. 333 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,000 I also have the Vista. 334 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,200 I think it's so beautiful. 335 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Well, that's the jewel box of Los Angeles. 336 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,160 So beautiful. 337 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,800 The Vista is a theatre in Los Feliz as well 338 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,840 that he purchased post-Covid. 339 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Yeah, yeah. Right on. 340 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,960 It's beautiful, man. 341 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,600 You've got a collection. I'm an exhibitor. 342 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Somebody said that about me before! Keep your pants up! 343 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,040 It's great. 344 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,720 The sense of community that these theatres 345 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,400 also create is really, really cool, man. 346 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,440 We actually just fairly recently had a Cool Cop double feature. 347 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,560 At the New Beverly and we showed SWAT and it was a smash. 348 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,000 No! It was a smash. 349 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Old school man, old-school. 350 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, I remember. 351 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Very good. Thank you. 352 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,840 So, what's it like in real life? It's faster. 353 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,400 We were talking about Once Upon A Time in Hollywood 354 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,200 and we were remarking that your casting is extraordinary, 355 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,040 because we didn't really know who the young Manson family were, 356 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,120 and so many of them are now so famous. 357 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. 358 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Like, Austin Butler was in there. 359 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,680 Sydney Sweeney, Oscar winner Mikey Madison, Margaret Qualley. 360 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Like, is it because they were in a Quentin Tarantino film that 361 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,000 they've gone on to success or...? 362 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,040 Not at all. 363 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:56,920 You know, I appreciate having my name attached with them. 364 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,920 They all had... 365 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,800 It's not like I found them in a community theatre, all right? 366 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,040 They all had done things before in the past. 367 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,680 I mean, Austin Butler was acting in Iceman Cometh on Broadway 368 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:13,880 with Denzel Washington when I cast him. 369 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 But the thing is, though, is look, me and my casting director, 370 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Victoria Thomas, look, we just did a really, 371 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,720 really good job. 372 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,760 We looked at everybody in town that could play 373 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,680 those roles and, well, guess what, we picked 374 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,720 the right people. 375 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,760 The good ones. 376 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,160 We picked the right people, but they were all kind 377 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,760 of coming from somewhere. 378 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,440 And I'm getting a little bit more credit than I deserve 379 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 because they all were going where they were going on their own. 380 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,240 It did not hurt, all right. 381 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,880 But in the case of Sydney Sweeney, she had already done 382 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,920 Euphoria, the first season. 383 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,320 So she's actually doing us a favour, all right, being in the show. 384 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Gemma, you have kind of experienced this where Crazy Rich Asians, 385 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,080 like, a lot of you going into that movie weren't that well known 386 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,760 and then, you know, were. 387 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Yeah, yeah. It was an amazing thing. 388 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,800 It was kind of like Asians Assemble for this movie. 389 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,320 But yeah, incredible cast. 390 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,400 We've got brilliant people there who've gone on to do amazing things. 391 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Yeah. 392 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,120 And for your family, it must have been kind 393 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,040 of like, "Our daughter's in a big movie, 394 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,240 like a proper big movie." 395 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Yeah. 396 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,440 My parents are very, you know, they're both, 397 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,120 neither of them are in the arts. 398 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:24,160 They're very practical people. 399 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,320 And I originally did a law degree and switched 400 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,760 to then do acting. 401 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,200 That was a thrill for them. 402 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,640 Yeah, that was a quiet Christmas. Yeah. 403 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,160 But yeah, when they came to see the movie, 404 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,520 my mum told me that she heard a song that her mum used to 405 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,920 sing to her back in China when she was young 406 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,800 that she'd never heard, you know, not heard for a long time. 407 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,480 And it really moved her to tears. 408 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,160 So that was really powerful. Oh, wow. 409 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,000 She's here somewhere. Mum! 410 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,200 There she is. 411 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Aw. 412 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Hello. Hi. 413 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,840 And, you know, directors can make stars, but also, 414 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,680 they can kind of change the trajectory of established stars. 415 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,240 I'm thinking, like, Martin McDonagh. Yeah. 416 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,840 When he came to you with In Bruges, is there a story that you thought 417 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,280 you weren't right for In Bruges? 418 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,920 No, I thought I was right for it, but I thought 419 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,000 it was terrible casting. 420 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,960 OK. Correct. 421 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:31,480 I had just got out of rehab, and so I had burned a good few 422 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,560 bridges, and the phone wasn't ringing the way it did in the first 423 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,440 few years of my career. 424 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,640 And it was ringing also built on a promise that wasn't anything 425 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,880 to do with reality and I gained certainly a lot of finances 426 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,080 from that, but it was all crazy for the first three years. 427 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,960 But I had a little interesting journey and took a side trip 428 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,800 to rehab, and then I came out of rehab and Martin wanted 429 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,200 to meet me, and I knew Martin from back in the day from hanging 430 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,040 out with him in London when he was doing his theatre here. 431 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,200 And we'd had some good nights on the tiles. 432 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,480 All in the distant past now! Coffee and tea. 433 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,880 But we met and he said, "You read the script?" 434 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,720 And I had read it and I said yeah. And he said, "What do you think?" 435 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,360 I said, "I just think it's one of the most brilliant 436 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:15,400 things I've ever read. 437 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,600 It's so beautiful, so moving. 438 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760 It's such a love story between these two characters, 439 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,640 and it's just an anarchy as well in moments and it's hilarious". 440 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560 And he said, "Great, so you'll do it?" 441 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 And I said, "No, I think you can do better". 442 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,120 And he went, "Well, what are you talking about?" 443 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:29,680 And I said, "No, no, no". 444 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,960 I said, "To be honest with you", I was very... 445 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,360 I just said, "I come with a lot of baggage, 446 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:37,240 and I might not be known for the right stuff right now, 447 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,120 so I think you should get somebody that the audience doesn't come 448 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:42,280 in with any kind of prejudice at the beginning. 449 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,480 The writing is that good". 450 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,160 And he went, "OK, great. That's fantastic. 451 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,360 You're not the casting director. 452 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,240 Shut the fuck up. Do the film". 453 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,760 And I went, "OK, I'm in." 454 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,640 Such a great film. Yeah, it was a lovely thing to do. 455 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Ellen, can we talk about Dory in Finding Nemo? 456 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,640 We can. 457 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Yeah, because everyone loves that film. 458 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,120 Is it true... 459 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,280 APPLAUSE. 460 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,720 There you go. So... 461 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,800 A bit like what Colin was talking about. 462 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,240 So the director, Andrew Stanton? Yes. 463 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,160 So he rang you out of the blue to be in this movie or... 464 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,520 Yeah, it was right after I had come out and the show had been 465 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,560 cancelled because... 466 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Your sitcom. 467 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,560 My sitcom had been cancelled because I... 468 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,480 Gay people don't work in Hollywood. 469 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,320 So I was sitting at home and I wasn't getting offers 470 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,920 and the phone rings and it's this guy Andrew Stanton, who's this Pixar 471 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,400 nerd who didn't know anything about me not being able to work, 472 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,480 and said, I wrote this thing with you in mind, 473 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,040 because he would hear me in the background on the sitcom 474 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 rambling and even my stand-up. 475 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,720 I do these things where I just ramble and forget what I'm saying 476 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,920 and go back and forth. 477 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,080 And he said, I'm writing this character that has 478 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,120 short-term memory loss. 479 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,680 And I don't want... And I don't want to be offensive. 480 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 I'm like trying to do this in a delicate way. 481 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,280 And I think you can do it. 482 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,440 I believe you can forget. Yes. 483 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,240 And he was correct. 484 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,640 And Quentin, I've got to ask you about the 10th 485 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,360 film, the final film. 486 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,760 Have you written it? Do you know what it is? 487 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Uh... 488 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,600 Maybe. OK. 489 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,520 All right. Well, no, no, no, I'm not... 490 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,600 I'm not trying to be provocative. 491 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,640 I've written a script that I could do that I really, 492 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,760 really like, but I have to kind of do the play and see 493 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,960 kind of who I am. 494 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,360 I'll finish the play and then I'll go back and be with my family 495 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,000 for a while and then live, and then let's see what 496 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,200 that guy wants to do. 497 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,320 OK. 498 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,000 I should remind everybody, the Popinjay Cavalier, 499 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640 it starts previews on the 23rd of February, and it opens 500 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,840 on the 18th of March. 501 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760 Tickets are on sale now. Quentin Tarantino, everybody! 502 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:03,120 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 503 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,720 We move on to Colin Farrell. He brings us an extraordinary story. 504 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,520 It's a documentary called The Slightest Touch. 505 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,520 It's available to stream on HBO Max from November the 26th. 506 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,400 And this is the story of you and your friend Emma Fogarty. 507 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280 You'd need a heart of stone not to cry at this film. 508 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680 Tell us about your friend Emma Fogarty and the point 509 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,360 in which we meet her and you. 510 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:33,760 What you want to know about her? She's amazing. 511 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,680 Emma Fogarty was born with a condition called 512 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Epidermolysis Bullosa, known as EB, for obvious reasons. 513 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040 Um, and it is basically an issue with the collagen, 514 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,880 the proteins between the skin. 515 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440 So basically, if Emma as a child and anyone who has EB as a child, 516 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840 there are three different types. She has the most severe. 517 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960 She's one of three people in Ireland that has the most severe version. 518 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,400 If she bangs her arm off a table, she'll blister. 519 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,040 The arm will become an open wound. 520 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 She's not known a day since she was born 521 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,080 that hasn't been lived with pain as her constant companion, 522 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240 every second of every day since she was born. 523 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160 And yet she has lived the most beautiful, 524 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,480 most meaningful, most community driven, 525 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,680 cheeky... She's funny as fuck. 526 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,200 She is so bold. 527 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,880 She's such an incredible advocate for herself. 528 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Her family have obviously advocated on her behalf. 529 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,600 I met her 15 years ago. I sat beside her at a dinner. 530 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,960 She took the piss out of me. I took the piss out of her. 531 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,440 I was worried, was that inappropriate? 532 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Certainly not inappropriate to take the piss out of a celebrity. 533 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,720 But I was worried it was inappropriate to take the piss. 534 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,640 But she laughed, I laughed, it kept going. 535 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,080 And that was 15 years ago. 536 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,760 And then we started emailing each other. 537 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,160 And then I'd come home to Dublin, I'd see her. 538 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560 And long story short, I said to her in passing 539 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,600 about four years ago, 540 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000 I said, Jeez, we should do a marathon together someday. 541 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920 And I just didn't even think about it. 542 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600 And then two years later, I got a text from her. 543 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 "Do you remember when we said you said..." 544 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,680 I thought, "Ah, man." 545 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720 And I said, "I'm in, I'm in whatever." 546 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120 I said, look, if we're going to do a marathon, 547 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,520 you and me, we should do a documentary about it 548 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,560 just for the fun. 549 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200 I was just thinking of fun and raise some awareness around 550 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,120 Epidermolysis Bullosa to try and find a cure 551 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,240 and all the things that are needed for those who suffer with it. 552 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,920 And she went, what do you mean? 553 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320 I said, "I don't know, we'll try and find someone." 554 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,240 And we found someone. We found Rachel Flight, 555 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,160 who's an extraordinary director, and she did a... 556 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 I had seen her documentary work before and she came on board. 557 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,080 There was no structure. 558 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760 There was no... It was all vague. 559 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,800 It was just, 560 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,680 "Rachel, this is Emma, I'm Colin, we're going to do a marathon. 561 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,360 "And what do you want to do?" 562 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520 And then we opened up our lives to her. 563 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,720 And it became this documentary. 564 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,360 And it begins with sort of Emma beating all the odds. 565 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,400 Yeah. 566 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,440 Emma is 40. Yeah. 567 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,480 She was told... 568 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,880 Her parents were told to leave her in the hospital 569 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560 and to not bother taking her home, 570 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,480 that she wasn't going to last a week. 571 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,400 And so Emma's fingers now, by the way, 572 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 she has her fingers and she can move them under her hands, 573 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,440 but they're all melted together because of the condition. 574 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,480 It's mad. 575 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600 You'll see in her pictures there you can see that her hands are, 576 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 you know, so I'll just do this for Emma to the doctors. 577 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,680 She very much was like... 578 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,360 You know what I mean? Like 40. 579 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,400 40... Yes. 580 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,440 She's 42 now. 581 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,120 She was turning 40 for the marathon. 582 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,760 And the whole idea was I'd push her the last 4K. 583 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160 Each kilometre representing a decade that she had survived EB. 584 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320 We've got a little clip. 585 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200 This is you with Emma, and you're testing out the new wheelchair. 586 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,880 The new wheels, yeah, the new wheels. 587 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,840 Here we go. 588 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,440 Keep the eye on the road ahead of you. 589 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Exactly. 590 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:37,280 You owe me 20 euro for every pothole we go by that I don't hit. 591 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,600 How do you feel? 592 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,720 I feel great. 593 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,640 Is it an easy push? Yeah, it's grand. 594 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,680 It's heavy? No. 595 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,360 Just made a face behind your back. 596 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,400 Yeah, I know you. 597 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,320 Too easy now. 598 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:02,160 APPLAUSE 599 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,800 You can tell the friendship is genuine. 600 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,000 I love her so much. 601 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,160 She's the most inspiring human being I've ever met, 602 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560 and I've been fortunate enough to meet a few families 603 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,800 with children who have EB, 604 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,680 and the courage that they demonstrate every day 605 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,160 is just next level. It's unimaginable. 606 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,560 We've got a little bit here. 607 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,520 This is you. You must have been exhausted. 608 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,920 This is right at the end. 609 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 If you roll the clip there, we can just see. 610 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480 This is, so you'd run 38km at this point. 611 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,520 Yeah. 612 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Yeah. 613 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,720 And we've been talking about it, me and her, 614 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,760 for two years. 615 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,640 And it was a big thing and it was touch and go 616 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,320 whether we could do it or not, 617 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,240 because the Dublin Marathon organisers were really worried. 618 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,440 There was a point where they said to her, 619 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,080 look, we can't let you run 4K. 620 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,760 We've never had anyone with Epidermolysis Bullosa 621 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,960 be pushed in a marathon. 622 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,000 If something happens... 623 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,400 I was terrified I was going to spill her, like. 624 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Yeah. You know, spill Emma 625 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,640 and that's curtains. 626 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560 As I said in the film, it's curtains. 627 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,600 It's all, you know? 628 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,480 And so I literally like, Emma is, is a fully self-realised woman 629 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,440 and she's powerful as anyone I've ever met, 630 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,480 powerful more than most. 631 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080 And I still said to her, I just have to have 632 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,480 one of your parents at least tell me it's OK. 633 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,120 Just one of your parents. And her mother came on, Pat, 634 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,040 and she went, "Yeah, of course it's OK." 635 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Why wouldn't she? I mean, 636 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960 she can't just do nothing, you know? 637 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,960 She wants to do... 638 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Look at what she's done with her life. 639 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Of course it's OK, Colin, aye, and off she went. 640 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200 I was like, we also should say, yeah... 641 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,240 You're raising awareness. 642 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,880 But you also, we should say raised over a million euros. 643 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,080 A million euro, yeah, man. 644 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,120 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 645 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,360 That's the two of you. 646 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,960 I know the people of Ireland really got out behind us. 647 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600 We did a media blitz the two weeks before the marathon. 648 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,640 Sorry, love? 649 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,560 I would love if we could raise awareness 650 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,680 for something for you to push me in a marathon. 651 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,280 I will, definitely, but you have to say bye-bye to everyone. 652 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,960 26.2 fucking miles, 26.2 miles. 653 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600 I'd pay money for that. Yeah, I'd donate money for that. 654 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Yeah. 655 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,320 And the thing that struck me, it's obviously the story of Emma Fogarty 656 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,480 but I was really surprised that it's so much about you as well. 657 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320 There's a lot of your personal life and your family and stuff. 658 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,360 Were you... 659 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320 I wasn't a big fan of that part. 660 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480 Is that, what, you didn't sign up for that? 661 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,520 I did sign up. 662 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440 I can't blame anyone because the damn thing 663 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 was my idea, you know? 664 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800 So I don't know where to throw the stone, mirror, but... 665 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 But I knew that I was going to have to open up 666 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320 a bit of my life to get her story out there. 667 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480 And then our director is just so damn loving 668 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,520 and empathetic, Rachel. 669 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600 And so, so decent, fundamentally. 670 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,480 There was never any kind of journalistic angle 671 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,720 she was trying to take. 672 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360 And she was over in my house and we'd have conversations. 673 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760 And then things turned to my dad and my kids, 674 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,200 and yes, I end up blubbering. 675 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600 For the majority, we all do. 676 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560 I mean, but it's such an inspiring film. 677 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200 It really is such a hopeful... I'm delighted you think that. 678 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,360 You should be so proud of it. Thanks, man. 679 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,520 I'm delighted you think that. Thank you, thank you. 680 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400 Talking of marathons, 681 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,160 is it your mum who's marathon crazy? 682 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,040 My mum has run over 100 marathons. No! 683 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:05,640 That's amazing. That's amazing. 684 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,640 She's over 100. 685 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 And she only started running when my sister and I left home. 686 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,600 No way! 687 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,240 And she joined a local running club. 688 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,280 That's so cool. 689 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720 She keeps pitching me each year saying we should do 690 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,720 a mother-daughter marathon. 691 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,280 And I'm like, maybe next year! 692 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,360 As you're on telly, see what she says now. 693 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,640 Maybe you can push me! 694 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Graham. 695 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400 Yeah? I hate to do this. 696 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,720 I have to take a pee so bad. 697 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Go pee. 698 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:39,360 There's nothing worse. There's nothing worse. 699 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,800 When you gotta go, you gotta go. 700 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160 You gotta go, you gotta go, gotta go. 701 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Stop drinking these! 702 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,120 Do you know what I think it is? 703 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,560 The difference between performers and directors 704 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,640 because he's not used to having to hold his pee. 705 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600 We're all used to holding all that pee. 706 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,720 Exactly. Yeah. 707 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280 He should have thought of that before he came out here. 708 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,360 Yeah. 709 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 I've gone to the toilet twice sitting here! 710 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440 I would love to know how many countries are... 711 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,360 Did you run marathons all over the world? 712 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Yes, I did. 713 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Whereabouts? Give me a couple of places. 714 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,760 All over the States. All over Europe. 715 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Hong Kong. Marrakech. 716 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,960 You did Marrakech? Yeah. 717 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,640 Oh, and I did Dublin. Did you? 718 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Yeah. 719 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080 It was a raining or no? Was it all right? 720 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,240 It was OK, actually. It's flat enough, isn't it? 721 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,280 It's flat enough. 722 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,360 And what's your best time? 3:43. 723 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,320 Oh, that's amazing. Really good. 724 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,000 ELLEN: Has your father done the run? 725 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,440 He likes to cycle. That's OK. 726 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Can I just say you are going to end up running more marathons? 727 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Just stop talking to people about marathons! 728 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640 I know, yeah. Where do you want to go next? 729 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760 I'm free in February. 730 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200 I think Quentin's doing a number two, by the way! 731 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,200 LAUGHTER 732 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,600 I got so... I got so... 733 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 I got so... 734 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,240 I'll tell him. 735 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,640 I tell him I said that when he comes out 736 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,080 because I don't want to be... 737 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,280 His finest work. Yeah, yeah. 738 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Needs to sign it. 739 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480 Wait, here he is now! Yay! 740 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,040 I said he's probably doing a number two. 741 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840 No, no, no! 742 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,960 It literally was a situation where I had 743 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,800 to go so bad that I was actually like, argh, let go. 744 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,480 I had to talk myself down. 745 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960 It was all good. 746 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Yeah, yeah, I apologise. Very bad etiquette. 747 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,760 You're good, you're good, but don't have any more to drink! 748 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,040 We're done. We're done. 749 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:39,120 Now, Gemma Chan. 750 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Gemma Chan's latest film is such a powerful, beautiful film. 751 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920 It is called Josephine. It's in cinemas from November 20th. 752 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 I know this is a film you care deeply about. 753 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920 So tell us who you play, and who Josephine is. 754 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Yeah, 755 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,880 so Josephine is a psychological thriller. 756 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080 It is loosely inspired by an experience 757 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:04,040 that our director, Beth de Araujo, had in her childhood. 758 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,680 And it's about how an eight-year-old girl witnesses 759 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560 a brutal crime and her mind spirals, and it's about her journey 760 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,000 of resilience to overcoming her fear. 761 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360 And Channing Tatum and I play her parents who both love her very much, 762 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000 but they don't agree on the best way to help her. 763 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Well, actually, that's a very good kind of intro into the clip we have. 764 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,720 This is you and Channing Tatum with the daughter, 765 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Josephine, disagreeing. 766 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Um... 767 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,840 Jojo, do you have any questions about today? 768 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,960 When can I have a gun? 769 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:48,000 I do not want those in the house. I don't care even if they are a toy. 770 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840 I think it's absolutely absurd that they even make them for children. 771 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,880 Jo. 772 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040 It's the job of parents to keep kids safe. 773 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,720 Where were her parents in the park? 774 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Jojo, that's never going to happen to you. 775 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Ever. You can't say that to her. 776 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480 I absolutely can say that to her. 777 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,120 Ooh. 778 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,120 APPLAUSE 779 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,640 And the story... 780 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,840 The story is really compelling. 781 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960 But we've got to talk about that little girl played by Mason Reeves. 782 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,400 She is extraordinary. Oh, my goodness. 783 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,800 She just blew us away. 784 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,920 When we filmed she turned eight, and Beth actually found her 785 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,560 in a farmers' market in San Francisco. 786 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,720 So she was looking for someone who looked like 787 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,400 the love child of myself and Channing. 788 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,440 So tell me this... 789 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840 So, they cast they cast you and Channing Tatum first, 790 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,200 and then had to find a kid that looked like you might have had. 791 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,240 Yes. 792 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,400 So I was actually, I joined the project and 793 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,560 I got sent the script in 2019. So it was a winding road. 794 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560 We almost made it 795 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,240 and then Covid happened and the strikes 796 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,960 and it fell apart a few times. 797 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,320 And Beth went and made another film, which is brilliant. 798 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480 It's called Soft and Quiet. It's a one-take film. 799 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,560 If you haven't seen it, you absolutely should. 800 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,760 And then Channing joined, 801 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,920 and then we were six weeks out from shooting, 802 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560 and we still didn't have the little girl because the girl 803 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200 who we had originally cast had aged out of the role. 804 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,240 Yeah. 805 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:15,520 So Beth went to this farmers' market 806 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,960 that was like at the intersection 807 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600 between a very a Caucasian area and an East Asian area. 808 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000 And she said, I'm just going to find her here. 809 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,200 She sat... She sat in. 810 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,880 That sounds like good casting actually, and. 811 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Just was watching. 812 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,840 And then this little girl just ran past. 813 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,720 And you know, Josephine, the girl in the film, she's a tomboy. 814 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,760 She's very physically active. 815 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,200 And she just had that energy. 816 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,080 And so she just chased after her and went off and said, 817 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,520 you know, who are your parents? 818 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680 And Mason was like, who the hell are you, 819 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,720 strange lady? 820 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,120 So I went and spoke to the mum and said, 821 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040 I'm looking for someone to play the daughter 822 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,200 of Channing Tatum and Gemma Chan, and they just thought 823 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,840 she was making it up like, yeah, like, as you would. 824 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,720 And then they, they sent a tape in for her and she... 825 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,400 Yeah, she was just brilliant. She's incredible. 826 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080 It's one of the best child performances... 827 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,120 She's never acted before? 828 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,400 It's her first film. 829 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Did she find it hard? 830 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440 Were there scenes that she was really struggling with? 831 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,400 Never, never is the truth. 832 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040 I mean, I should say that, you know, our film deals 833 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,480 with some very challenging subject matter, 834 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360 but it was very important that she was protected and felt safe. 835 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,280 So she never read the script in full. 836 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,320 Her parents were around? 837 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000 We always had her mother or her father or both on set, every day. 838 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Yeah, we wanted to make sure she didn't read the script in full, 839 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,800 she's never seen the film in full. 840 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160 And, you know, we used a bit of VFX to put her into scenes 841 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,880 that she didn't want her to see. 842 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,280 So yeah, it's really so important. 843 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,040 You must be so gratified that, you know, 844 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,840 given, as you say, it was not easy to get this film made, that it's had 845 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,880 such a great response. 846 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640 It premiered at Sundance and it did so well. 847 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,320 It's brilliant. I saw it, it's magnificent. 848 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,520 It's devastating, but it's brilliant. 849 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,480 It really is. You're all... 850 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Yeah, thank you. 851 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680 Was amazing to watch it with an audience there 852 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,840 for the first time. And the response was incredible. 853 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480 And we see you flex your ballet muscles in this film. 854 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,360 I do. 855 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000 So I play a character that is inspired by Beth's mum 856 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,480 who was a ballet dancer. 857 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880 And so Beth spoke to me and said, you know, 858 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,160 I really think you need to dance in this film. 859 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,600 We're going to have to film. 860 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,720 And I was like, hold on, we have Magic Mike in the movie 861 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,120 and you want ME to dance? Like, are you serious? 862 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080 APPLAUSE 863 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,440 So she was like... 864 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560 It comes at an emotional point, like a mid point of the film. 865 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480 So yeah, I worked with an amazing choreographer 866 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,560 called Katerina Beckman, and they whipped me into shape. 867 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Had you done ballet before? 868 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,720 I did ballet until I was 11 years old 869 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,400 and then had... So you had some. 870 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,080 It was there. I was very rusty. 871 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,240 They make me look much better than I was. 872 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,160 Was Channing there on the day? He was. 873 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520 And he was like, thank God, 874 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,400 I can just sit back and I don't have to do this! 875 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,840 He was so happy about it. 876 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,520 You dance with him, Ellen, didn't you? 877 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,720 You danced with Channing Tatum. 878 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,720 I have danced with Channing Tatum and actually on one of 879 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,880 his Magic Mike performances. 880 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,320 I was on stage with him. 881 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,360 Really? Yeah. 882 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,640 I didn't know that. 883 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Yeah, we took the show to Vegas and we did a thing, and, um... 884 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,040 Yeah. 885 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,200 So were you taking his clothes off or something? 886 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,240 Kind of! OK! 887 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,160 But wait. Graham, you've danced with him. 888 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,720 I've seen a clip of you! 889 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,640 No, he danced with me. 890 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,360 I've worked with Channing. I've never danced with him! 891 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Excuse me. I missed out. 892 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920 It's a missed opportunity. 893 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800 And, Ellen, because you spent so much of your life on television. 894 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,880 Like, do you miss it? Um, yeah, I miss a lot about it. 895 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,760 I miss the, you know, I miss laughing 896 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,200 every single day with the writers. 897 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600 And I miss the guests, ad I miss kissing Colin. 898 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040 I miss a lot of it. 899 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,200 And I think about doing something here. 900 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,960 It does seem...it does seem easy to get on television here because... 901 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Charming! 902 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080 I mean... 903 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200 I just called you up and I said, I have nothing to promote. 904 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,920 Can I just sit on the couch? 905 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,360 And you're like, yeah. Yeah, sure. 906 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080 So... It's true! 907 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,880 No. 908 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,960 I mean, you know, I mean, there are shows here 909 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,800 that I'm just shocked that someone went and sold it and, 910 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480 you know, like, there's a sewing show. 911 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,640 So you're watching someone sew. 912 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080 There's a pottery show where there's... 913 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,240 There are things, there's a show of watching people 914 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,400 watch television, like... 915 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,000 And I'm like, I could just come up with like, 916 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,080 I mean, I mow every day, I like to mow. 917 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,440 And I thought people could mow, and see how long you disassociate 918 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360 from your family, because that's what you're doing. 919 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520 You're out there just by yourself and the lawn. 920 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,240 As long as you can be out there. 921 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,120 And I can call it Lawn And Order. 922 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,600 Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 923 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,720 There will be an email in your inbox before you leave the set! 924 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,760 Tomorrow, yeah. 925 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680 Well, it's so lovely to have you here 926 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,600 and good luck with whatever you do next. 927 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Ellen DeGeneres, everybody! 928 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,240 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 929 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,920 Right, it's time for music. 930 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960 This band won the prestigious Mercury Prize 931 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,800 for their debut album 33 years ago, 932 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,400 and this year they are up for another one. 933 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,920 Here, performing their single Dancing With The Europeans, 934 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:17,880 please welcome Suede! 935 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,440 # On the road we'll run like a river. 936 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080 # With the headlights on like a river, we'll run. 937 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,840 # Like a river, I'll run back to you. 938 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 # I'll run like a river. 939 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,360 # Through the parks and through the pavilions. 940 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,320 # Through the countryside like a human tide. 941 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:00,960 # Like a river tonight, we'll run, we'll run like a river. 942 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:08,240 # There's something inside that craves the artificial life. 943 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:16,280 # There's something inside the craves the blue and yellow lights. 944 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,240 # Oh, with a European stain within me 945 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:28,200 # And a European suffering in me, Dancing with the Europeans. 946 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:39,480 # I got a European stain within me and a European suffering. 947 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,240 # I want to be dancing with the Europeans. 948 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:50,560 # And the road will run like a river. 949 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,400 # And we want to be strong and we want to belong. 950 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,560 # To belong to the road and the rails. 951 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,000 # To belong to the rhythm. 952 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,240 # With the soldiers and the civilians. 953 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,680 # Well, the flesh might die. 954 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,120 # But our love will survive. 955 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,880 # When you're by my side. 956 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,840 # Well, death shall have no dominion. 957 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,720 # There's something inside that craves the simulated life. 958 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:31,000 # There's something inside that likes white artificial lights. 959 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,960 # Oh, with a European stain within me 960 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,880 # And a European suffering in me 961 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,480 # Dancing with the Europeans 962 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:53,440 # I got a European stain within me and a European suffering 963 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,920 # Dancing with the Europeans 964 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,440 # Sing it. 965 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,440 # Dancing with the Europeans 966 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:17,440 # Dancing with the Europeans 967 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:25,080 # Dancing with the Europeans 968 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:33,000 # Dancing with the Europeans 969 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:41,520 # Your ghosts are my ghosts. # 970 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,440 Thank you. 971 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040 Suede, everybody! 972 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,840 Great job. 973 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120 I think, Brett, you're coming over to see us. 974 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,080 Here comes Brett. 975 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,880 Hello, sir. 976 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,800 Lovely to see you. Very kind of you. 977 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,960 Hello, everyone. 978 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,240 This is Ellen. Hello. 979 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:06,280 Lovely to meet you. 980 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160 How do you do? 981 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,320 Have a seat. One of those drinks is yours. 982 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,000 Is it, like, lucky dip? 983 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,880 Yeah, really. 984 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520 Thank you so much for being here and doing that performance. 985 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,560 It's been a while. 986 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960 I think it's 23 years since you were last on. 987 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Yes, it was. 988 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,760 And now, I hesitate to bring this up because on the show 989 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,360 we had a lovely time with you, but the band had a less lovely time. 990 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,800 Yeah, I'm not blaming you specifically, 991 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200 but last time we were on here, we split up. 992 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,640 That's actually true. 993 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,600 It is, really. Yeah, it's actually true. 994 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,000 We had a... Did you used to film it here? 995 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,160 I can't remember. No, we were in London studios. 996 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,640 We've got a picture of you. 997 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520 You could sort of tell something was off. 998 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,800 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 999 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,480 You don't look like a happy band. 1000 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,800 Yeah. 1001 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,560 So was there a fight, or you just decided, "We've 1002 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960 reached a low ebb, we're on the Graham Norton Show?" 1003 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600 Well, you know, more bands should split up, to be honest. 1004 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,760 It's one of those. It was a mercy killing. 1005 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,840 How long did you stay split up for? 1006 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,160 Seven or eight years, I think. 1007 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,640 And then we reformed for Teenage Cancer Trust. 1008 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,400 They said, "Come and do a show", 1009 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,040 and then we were just going to do, like, a one-off 1010 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,040 show for teenage cancer. 1011 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,920 And it sort of, I don't know. Couldn't leave it alone, really. 1012 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,080 It's kind of adorable that you got back together 1013 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,920 and kind of went, "Actually, we miss each other". 1014 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,120 Yeah. No, it was lovely. 1015 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,520 And then we started making new records and, you know, 1016 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,400 and here we are. 1017 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,320 And that's everything that's happened in my life 1018 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,760 up until this point. 1019 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,840 Here we are, tenth studio album - Antidepressants. 1020 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000 Your debut album was nominated for the Mercury Prize 1021 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,360 and now you are nominated again. 1022 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,440 Debut album WON the Mercury Prize. 1023 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,600 Oh, you won it! Goddamn it, they won it! 1024 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,640 APPLAUSE 1025 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,080 There you are with the prize. 1026 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,560 With the prize. 1027 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,000 So, 33 years later, do you care more or less? 1028 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,920 I think you care more because it's very, 1029 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920 very, very rare for bands, 1030 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,840 33 years after winning the Mercury Music Prize, 1031 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,360 to still be relevant. 1032 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,640 And I think one of the reasons that we're still here now 1033 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,040 is because we approach the new music we're making now 1034 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,160 as passionately as we ever have. 1035 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560 And in a way, I think we've reinvented our sound 1036 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000 and all these kind of things. 1037 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,680 So I'm very, very proud of that, 1038 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,320 it's kind of like a symbol of recognition in a way. 1039 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,720 And you've got some die-hard fans in the audience tonight. 1040 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:32,760 CHEERING 1041 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,960 There they are. 1042 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600 And I'm guessing they might be showing up for your tour. 1043 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,000 You're heading out on tour with the Manic Street Preachers. 1044 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,040 That's right, yeah. 1045 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,080 Very good. 1046 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,120 MORE CHEERING 1047 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,280 Yes. Is that...? 1048 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120 That's me, yeah. 1049 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,320 No, that's now. That's this October. 1050 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,160 That's me with the microphone there. 1051 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,480 Like I'm eating a big piece of spaghetti. 1052 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,120 Like Lady And The Tramp. It's adorable. 1053 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,360 So when is the Mercury Prize announced? 1054 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,760 Oh, it's next week, isn't it? Next Thursday, I think. 1055 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,240 Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah. 1056 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,160 Oh, well, good luck. It's up in Newcastle. 1057 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,600 Are you going to come? Yes. 1058 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,640 Oh, no. I'm working. 1059 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:13,240 Oh. Good luck with the Mercury Prize. 1060 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,640 Thank you very much. I hope you pull it off. 1061 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,840 That'd be amazing. We won't. 1062 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,560 Good luck with the tour. 1063 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,720 Thank you for that performance. Thank you so much. 1064 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,960 Suede, everybody! 1065 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840 OK, that is nearly it. 1066 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,880 Before we go, 1067 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520 just time for a quick visit to the Big Red Chair! 1068 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,680 Who do we have? Hello? 1069 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,720 Hello. Hi. 1070 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:32,920 What's your name? I'm Renee. 1071 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,960 Renee. Lovely. 1072 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120 Where are you from, Renee? I'm from New Zealand. 1073 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960 Fabulous. Home of the anecdote. 1074 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,240 And, do you live here now, Renee? Yes, I'm here now. 1075 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,800 Oh, love, she's here now. Yeah. 1076 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,440 What do you do here, Renee? 1077 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,320 I work as a customer experience lead at a health tech start-up. 1078 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,280 Sweet Jesus. Pop that on a business card. 1079 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200 OK, Renee, off you go with your story. 1080 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,240 Yeah. 1081 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,720 So I've been in London just under a year, 1082 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,800 but a couple of months into moving here, 1083 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,720 I decided to get on the dating apps, 1084 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,400 downloaded the top three that everyone uses, 1085 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,840 cycled through every one. Wow. 1086 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,520 Yeah. Busy, busy, busy. 1087 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,800 Yeah, so then I decided to narrow my search 1088 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,720 into downloading an app that's for South Asians 1089 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,120 that are based all around the world. 1090 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,880 And I came across my cousin on there. 1091 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040 So I noped out of that because absolutely not, 1092 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,080 do not need that, 1093 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880 and then went back to one of the other apps 1094 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520 and turns out one of the other apps had marked him 1095 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,000 as my most compatible. 1096 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040 And yeah, I messaged him and he said, 1097 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,680 "Yeah, I saw you and it said that you're the most 1098 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,880 compatible for me as well". 1099 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,960 And now they're married. 1100 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,760 No, we're not! 1101 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,080 That's a bit creepy. 1102 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,120 OK, there we go. 1103 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200 That is really all we've got time for. 1104 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,360 Please say thank you to all of my guests. 1105 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,240 Suede, everybody! 1106 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,520 Ellen DeGeneres! 1107 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,720 Gemma Chan! 1108 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,080 Colin Farrell! 1109 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:10,040 And Quentin Tarantino. 1110 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,080 Join me next week with music from Jorja Smith, 1111 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,120 Aussie conservationist Robert Irwin, 1112 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,800 Ted Lasso star Hannah Waddingham 1113 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,360 and double Oscar winner Cate Blanchett. 1114 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,040 I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. 1115 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:27,880 Bye bye!