0 00:00:45,392 --> 00:00:46,859 NIXON ON TAPE; They'd better not push me on him, 1 00:00:46,927 --> 00:00:48,360 or I'II just kick them in the teeth on it; 2 00:00:48,428 --> 00:00:50,726 NIXON AIDE; WeII, I think, if they;;; 3 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,934 NIXON; ;;;InternaI Revenue peopIe that are kicking 4 00:00:56,002 --> 00:00:58,596 BiIIy Graham around is Rosenberg; 5 00:00:58,672 --> 00:01:00,469 He is to be out; 6 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:02,633 I don't give a goddamn what the story is; 7 00:01:02,709 --> 00:01:04,267 He went on teIevision; 8 00:01:06,313 --> 00:01:08,076 I have not; I've aIready ordered ConnaIIy, 9 00:01:08,148 --> 00:01:09,843 we're going after the ChandIers, 10 00:01:09,916 --> 00:01:11,975 every one individuaIIy, coIIectiveIy, 11 00:01:12,052 --> 00:01:14,043 their income taxes are starting this week; 12 00:01:14,121 --> 00:01:16,817 Every one of those sons of bitches; 13 00:01:19,192 --> 00:01:21,990 NIXON; WeII, this is something that we can reaIIy hang Teddy or;;; 14 00:01:22,062 --> 00:01:23,051 MAN; Yeah; 15 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:24,427 NIXON; ;;;or the Kennedy cIan with; 16 00:01:24,498 --> 00:01:26,762 I'm gonna want to put that in CoIson's hands; 17 00:01:26,833 --> 00:01:28,994 And we're gonna want to run with it; 18 00:01:31,338 --> 00:01:33,203 NEWS REPORTER 1; A controversiaI day in poIitics; 19 00:01:33,273 --> 00:01:35,639 A man arrested trying to bug the offices 20 00:01:35,709 --> 00:01:38,371 of the Democratic NationaI Committee in Washington 21 00:01:38,445 --> 00:01:39,742 turns out to be an empIoyee 22 00:01:39,813 --> 00:01:42,907 of President Richard Nixon's re-eIection campaign committee; 23 00:01:42,983 --> 00:01:46,384 He is one of five persons surprised and arrested yesterday 24 00:01:46,453 --> 00:01:48,887 inside the headquarters of the Democratic NationaI Committee 25 00:01:48,955 --> 00:01:50,149 in Washington; 26 00:01:50,223 --> 00:01:51,713 And guess what eIse he is; 27 00:01:51,792 --> 00:01:53,760 A consuItant of President Richard Nixon's 28 00:01:53,827 --> 00:01:55,761 re-eIection campaign committee; 29 00:01:55,829 --> 00:01:57,820 NEWS REPORTER 2; The triaI started today at the federaI courthouse 30 00:01:57,898 --> 00:01:59,525 for the five burgIars caught breaking into 31 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,397 the Democratic NationaI Party headquarters; 32 00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:03,561 CAMERAMAN: Stand by for camera; 33 00:02:03,637 --> 00:02:06,162 MUDD; John Dean, the ex-White House CounseI, testified today 34 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,265 that President Nixon knew about the Watergate cover-up; 35 00:02:10,110 --> 00:02:11,600 DEAN; At one point in the conversation, 36 00:02:11,678 --> 00:02:13,111 I recaII the President teIIing me 37 00:02:13,180 --> 00:02:16,616 to keep a good Iist of the press peopIe giving us troubIe 38 00:02:16,683 --> 00:02:19,982 because we wiII make Iife difficuIt for them after the eIection; 39 00:02:20,053 --> 00:02:22,817 NEWS REPORTER 3; Dean read through a 245-page statement 40 00:02:22,889 --> 00:02:25,449 characterizing a president who was easiIy outraged 41 00:02:25,525 --> 00:02:28,289 over war protesters and poIiticaI adversaries, 42 00:02:28,361 --> 00:02:30,192 and outIining a range of offenses, 43 00:02:30,263 --> 00:02:32,026 incIuding wiretapping of newsmen, 44 00:02:32,098 --> 00:02:34,225 a CharIes CoIson pIan to firebomb 45 00:02:34,301 --> 00:02:36,360 and burgIarize the Brookings Institution, 46 00:02:36,436 --> 00:02:39,405 and spying on Senator Kennedy and other Democrats; 47 00:02:39,473 --> 00:02:42,909 LAWYER; The misuse of power is the very essence of tyranny; 48 00:02:42,976 --> 00:02:45,035 And consider, if you wiII, 49 00:02:45,111 --> 00:02:49,070 the frightening impIications of that for a free society; 50 00:02:49,416 --> 00:02:53,284 NEWS REPORTER 4; The President today accepted the resignation of three of his cIosest aides; 51 00:02:53,353 --> 00:02:55,947 Out is H;R; HaIdeman, Chief of Staff; 52 00:02:56,022 --> 00:02:58,513 AIso quitting under fire is John EhrIichman; 53 00:02:58,592 --> 00:03:00,856 EhrIichman was a key poIiticaI advisor; 54 00:03:00,927 --> 00:03:02,155 NEWS REPORTER 5; Good morning; The Supreme Court 55 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:03,856 has just ruIed on the tapes controversy, 56 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:06,262 and here is CarI Stern, who has that ruIing; 57 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:08,665 It is a unanimous decision, Doug, eight to zero; 58 00:03:08,735 --> 00:03:11,033 Justice Rehnquist took no part in the decision 59 00:03:11,104 --> 00:03:14,972 ordering the President of the United States to turn over the tapes; 60 00:03:15,041 --> 00:03:17,168 (CROWD CHEERING) 61 00:03:17,244 --> 00:03:19,405 It's an eight-to-zero unanimous opinion; 62 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,208 A White House aide toId NBC News today 63 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:22,976 that impeachment of the President 64 00:03:23,049 --> 00:03:26,849 by the fuII House of Representatives now is a virtuaI certainty; 65 00:03:28,722 --> 00:03:30,656 These are, with no serious doubt, 66 00:03:30,724 --> 00:03:34,160 the Iast hours of the 37th presidency of the United States; 67 00:03:38,431 --> 00:03:40,626 This is indeed an historic day, 68 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:44,329 the onIy time a president has ever resigned from office 69 00:03:44,404 --> 00:03:47,066 in our nearIy 200 years of history; 70 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:50,041 You see the White House there, and in the White House, 71 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:51,441 in just a few moments now, 72 00:03:51,511 --> 00:03:54,605 President Nixon wiII be appearing before the peopIe, 73 00:03:54,681 --> 00:03:58,583 perhaps for the Iast time as President of the United States; 74 00:03:59,953 --> 00:04:02,148 WHITE HOUSE DIRECTOR: 15 seconds, Mr; President; 75 00:04:08,028 --> 00:04:11,725 Okay, that's five, four, three;;; 76 00:04:15,569 --> 00:04:18,697 Good evening; This is the 37th time 77 00:04:18,772 --> 00:04:21,502 I have spoken to you from this office 78 00:04:21,575 --> 00:04:24,135 where so many decisions have been made 79 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:26,735 that have shaped the history of our nation; 80 00:04:26,813 --> 00:04:28,804 I remember exactIy where I was; 81 00:04:30,216 --> 00:04:33,583 My father caIIed; The phone rang, my father caIIed and he said, 82 00:04:33,653 --> 00:04:36,918 ''Turn on the TV right now; Richard Nixon's going down;'' 83 00:04:36,990 --> 00:04:40,721 I was at home with friends, and we were watching teIevision at home; 84 00:04:40,794 --> 00:04:43,592 We stayed up and, Iike everyone eIse, I'd been gIued to 85 00:04:43,663 --> 00:04:46,154 the SeIect and Judiciary Committee hearings night after night; 86 00:04:46,232 --> 00:04:48,359 And then finaIIy, it had come to this; 87 00:04:48,435 --> 00:04:54,237 Therefore, I shaII resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow; 88 00:04:54,307 --> 00:04:57,299 But instead of the satisfaction I imagined I'd feeI, 89 00:04:57,377 --> 00:04:59,641 I just got angrier and angrier, 90 00:04:59,713 --> 00:05:02,477 because there was no admission of guiIt; 91 00:05:02,549 --> 00:05:03,982 There was no apoIogy; 92 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:05,449 LittIe did I know 93 00:05:05,518 --> 00:05:07,645 that I wouId one day be part of the team 94 00:05:07,721 --> 00:05:10,121 that wouId try and eIicit that apoIogy; 95 00:05:10,190 --> 00:05:13,216 NIXON: To Ieave office before my term is compIeted 96 00:05:13,293 --> 00:05:16,285 is abhorrent to every instinct in my body; 97 00:05:16,363 --> 00:05:18,854 I have never been a quitter; 98 00:05:18,932 --> 00:05:20,593 And that that team wouId be Ied 99 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:24,364 by the most unIikeIy of white knights, 100 00:05:24,437 --> 00:05:26,371 a man with no poIiticaI convictions whatsoever, 101 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:30,671 a man who, as far as I know, had never even voted once in his Iife; 102 00:05:31,478 --> 00:05:35,608 But he was a man who had one big advantage over the rest of us; 103 00:05:36,883 --> 00:05:39,181 He understood teIevision; 104 00:05:39,719 --> 00:05:41,880 (FROST OVER AUSTRALIA THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 105 00:05:45,725 --> 00:05:50,788 ANNOUNCER; And now, the host of Frost Over AustraIia, 106 00:05:50,864 --> 00:05:53,492 Mr; David Frost! 107 00:05:53,667 --> 00:05:54,691 (CHUCKLES) 108 00:05:54,768 --> 00:05:57,362 Thank you, thank you; 109 00:05:59,172 --> 00:06:00,764 HeIIo; Good evening; 110 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:03,968 And with the eyes of the worId focused on the White House, 111 00:06:04,044 --> 00:06:06,672 here in AustraIia, burgIars have broken into 112 00:06:06,746 --> 00:06:09,078 a meat factory in Brisbane 113 00:06:09,149 --> 00:06:11,982 and stoIen a ton of pork sausages; 114 00:06:12,052 --> 00:06:13,144 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 115 00:06:13,219 --> 00:06:17,883 The QueensIand poIice are Iooking for men in a Iong, thin getaway car; 116 00:06:20,927 --> 00:06:22,622 Now, my first guest tonight;;; 117 00:06:22,696 --> 00:06:23,856 WeII, we in the Nixon camp 118 00:06:23,930 --> 00:06:25,397 reaIIy didn't know that much about David Frost, 119 00:06:25,465 --> 00:06:28,457 other than he was a British taIk show host 120 00:06:28,535 --> 00:06:30,298 with something of a pIayboy reputation; 121 00:06:30,370 --> 00:06:34,101 He'd had a taIk show here in the US that had won some awards 122 00:06:34,174 --> 00:06:39,271 but hadn't syndicated weII and had been dropped by the network; 123 00:06:39,345 --> 00:06:40,835 He ended up taking it down to AustraIia, 124 00:06:40,914 --> 00:06:44,645 which is, I beIieve, where he was when the President resigned; 125 00:06:44,918 --> 00:06:47,409 FROST: Next week's guest wiII be Evonne GooIagong; 126 00:06:47,487 --> 00:06:49,387 We'II see you then; God bIess; 127 00:06:52,192 --> 00:06:53,887 Great show, David; Thanks, Noah; 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,154 NOAH: Come and Iook at this; 129 00:06:55,228 --> 00:06:56,354 Nixon Ieaving the White House; 130 00:06:56,429 --> 00:06:59,159 NEWS REPORTER; A dark day for Richard Nixon, who has drawn crowds 131 00:06:59,232 --> 00:07:00,597 to the vast EIIipse south of the White House before; 132 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:02,191 What, this is Iive? Yeah; 133 00:07:02,268 --> 00:07:04,930 NEWS REPORTER; But those were triumphs; This is not; 134 00:07:05,004 --> 00:07:07,495 What time is it in Washington? 135 00:07:07,574 --> 00:07:09,007 9:00 a;m; 136 00:07:09,075 --> 00:07:10,201 Why didn't he wait? 137 00:07:10,276 --> 00:07:11,743 It's 6:00 in the morning on the West Coast; 138 00:07:11,811 --> 00:07:13,904 HaIf his audience is stiII asIeep; 139 00:07:15,448 --> 00:07:18,281 AII right, you bIokes, Iet's get the set broken down; 140 00:07:18,351 --> 00:07:22,412 NEWS REPORTER; ;;;are witnesses to the saddest day in the Iife of Richard Nixon, 141 00:07:22,489 --> 00:07:26,425 his Iast moments as President of the United States, 142 00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:30,122 a moment unIike any other in the history of this country; 143 00:07:47,113 --> 00:07:48,978 Richard Nixon, who goes now 144 00:07:49,048 --> 00:07:51,312 from the power of the presidency 145 00:07:51,384 --> 00:07:53,614 to a form of exiIe in CaIifornia; 146 00:07:53,686 --> 00:07:56,484 Find out the numbers for this, wiII you? WorIdwide; 147 00:08:09,969 --> 00:08:11,869 BRENNAN; I remember his face; 148 00:08:13,373 --> 00:08:15,705 Staring out the window; 149 00:08:15,775 --> 00:08:20,439 Down beIow him, a IiberaI America cheered, gIoated; 150 00:08:22,148 --> 00:08:24,673 Hippies, draft dodgers, diIettantes, 151 00:08:24,751 --> 00:08:28,118 the same peopIe who'd spit on me when I got back from Vietnam; 152 00:08:29,289 --> 00:08:33,316 They'd gotten rid of Richard Nixon, their bogeyman; 153 00:08:46,005 --> 00:08:49,031 So what's so important that it couIdn't wait, that it had to be today? 154 00:08:49,108 --> 00:08:53,545 I've had an idea, John, rather a boId idea for an interview; 155 00:08:53,613 --> 00:08:55,080 Fish and chips, pIease; 156 00:08:55,148 --> 00:08:56,547 And in a moment;;; 157 00:08:56,616 --> 00:08:57,981 WeII, it's too Iate now; It's done; 158 00:08:58,051 --> 00:08:59,382 I've caIIed his peopIe;;; 159 00:08:59,452 --> 00:09:00,612 You? 160 00:09:00,687 --> 00:09:03,053 Beans, peas and Iamb, pIease; 161 00:09:03,122 --> 00:09:04,589 And made an offer; 162 00:09:04,657 --> 00:09:09,117 Now, if the subject were to say yes, 163 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:16,525 weII, he's rather a big fish that swims in not-untricky waters; 164 00:09:17,036 --> 00:09:20,802 So it goes without saying that I'd want a dear friend 165 00:09:20,874 --> 00:09:23,707 and the finest producer I know by my side; 166 00:09:28,848 --> 00:09:30,042 So who is it? 167 00:09:31,451 --> 00:09:33,248 Richard Nixon; 168 00:09:33,353 --> 00:09:35,981 (LAUGHS) Richard Nixon? 169 00:09:36,055 --> 00:09:38,455 WeII, come on, don't Iook Iike that; 170 00:09:38,524 --> 00:09:40,185 WeII, how wouId you expect me to Iook? 171 00:09:40,260 --> 00:09:43,525 I spent yesterday evening watching you interview the Bee Gees; 172 00:09:43,596 --> 00:09:45,461 Weren't they terrific? 173 00:09:45,531 --> 00:09:49,524 Come on, John, we've done poIiticaI interviews before; 174 00:09:50,803 --> 00:09:53,294 So, okay, so what kind of interview? 175 00:09:53,373 --> 00:09:58,606 A fuII, extensive Iook-back over his Iife, his presidency; 176 00:09:58,678 --> 00:10:00,236 And? 177 00:10:00,313 --> 00:10:01,746 And what? Come on, David; 178 00:10:01,814 --> 00:10:03,281 SureIy the onIy thing that wouId interest anyone 179 00:10:03,349 --> 00:10:05,681 about Richard Nixon wouId be a confession; 180 00:10:05,752 --> 00:10:07,515 A fuII, no-hoIds-barred confession; 181 00:10:07,587 --> 00:10:09,817 WeII, we'II get that, too; 182 00:10:09,889 --> 00:10:10,878 From Richard Nixon? 183 00:10:10,957 --> 00:10:12,288 Come on, John; 184 00:10:12,358 --> 00:10:14,656 Just think of the numbers it wouId get; 185 00:10:15,395 --> 00:10:17,056 Do you know how many peopIe watched 186 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:18,757 his fareweII speech in the White House? 187 00:10:18,831 --> 00:10:20,856 Four hundred miIIion; 188 00:10:22,235 --> 00:10:24,226 But in the end, David heard nothing; 189 00:10:24,304 --> 00:10:25,965 And soon after arriving in CaIifornia, 190 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:29,634 Nixon was rushed to hospitaI with an acute attack of phIebitis; 191 00:10:43,089 --> 00:10:45,523 I think it was around this time that GeraId Ford, 192 00:10:45,591 --> 00:10:46,615 who was the new President, 193 00:10:46,693 --> 00:10:48,752 and who was desperate to move the agenda on from Watergate, 194 00:10:48,828 --> 00:10:51,922 gave Nixon a fuII, free and absoIute pardon; 195 00:10:51,998 --> 00:10:54,728 Now therefore, I, GeraId R; Ford, 196 00:10:54,801 --> 00:10:57,463 President of the United States, 197 00:10:57,537 --> 00:11:01,473 have granted, and by these presents do grant, 198 00:11:01,541 --> 00:11:04,066 a fuII, free and absoIute pardon 199 00:11:04,143 --> 00:11:09,342 unto Richard Nixon for aII offenses against the United States; 200 00:11:09,415 --> 00:11:11,815 It meant that the man who had committed the greatest feIony 201 00:11:11,884 --> 00:11:14,546 in American poIiticaI history wouId never stand triaI; 202 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:17,020 It was Iike he sIipped out the back door; 203 00:11:18,257 --> 00:11:20,020 A pubIic opinion poII indicates 204 00:11:20,093 --> 00:11:23,460 a two-to-one disapprovaI of the pardoning of Richard Nixon; 205 00:11:23,529 --> 00:11:26,726 CHANCELLOR; One teIegram from Virginia said, ''RooseveIt had his New DeaI, 206 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,394 ''Truman had his Fair DeaI, now Ford has his crooked deaI; '' 207 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:32,461 There was no deaI, period; 208 00:11:32,538 --> 00:11:34,904 I don't think the truth wiII ever come out; 209 00:11:34,974 --> 00:11:36,635 The American peopIe need to know the truth, 210 00:11:36,709 --> 00:11:39,940 and I don't think it wiII ever now be fuIIy known; 211 00:12:03,069 --> 00:12:05,902 GANNON: So how do we want to address the coIIege protests? 212 00:12:05,972 --> 00:12:07,166 WeII, do we want to Iift some quotes 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,368 from the ''stand up and be counted'' speech in 1970? 214 00:12:10,443 --> 00:12:12,070 Sir? GANNON: You know, maybe we're just better off 215 00:12:12,145 --> 00:12:13,669 using the whoIe LincoIn MemoriaI memo; 216 00:12:13,746 --> 00:12:15,213 SAWYER: Just incIude the whoIe thing; 217 00:12:15,281 --> 00:12:17,749 Mr; President, Swifty Lazar is here; 218 00:12:17,817 --> 00:12:20,081 Okay; No, no, stick around; 219 00:12:20,153 --> 00:12:22,348 You're gonna get a kick out of this; 220 00:12:22,422 --> 00:12:25,653 This is my Iiterary agent from HoIIywood; 221 00:12:25,725 --> 00:12:27,920 Hygiene obsessive; 222 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:33,390 Mr; President, good to see you; 223 00:12:33,466 --> 00:12:35,093 Nice to see you; 224 00:12:35,168 --> 00:12:37,762 These are foIks heIping me with my book; 225 00:12:37,837 --> 00:12:40,738 Diane Sawyer, Frank Gannon, Irving Lazar; 226 00:12:40,807 --> 00:12:42,365 Nice to meet you; Miss Sawyer; 227 00:12:42,442 --> 00:12:44,171 PIeasure; Mr; Gannon; 228 00:12:48,081 --> 00:12:50,106 Okay, that's it; I'II see you after Iunch; 229 00:12:50,183 --> 00:12:52,174 SWIFTY: So how you feeIing, sir? 230 00:12:52,585 --> 00:12:57,147 I'm better, thank you; Though not yet weII enough to goIf, 231 00:12:57,990 --> 00:13:00,857 thank God; I despise that game; 232 00:13:01,861 --> 00:13:04,386 Imagine, six weeks out of office 233 00:13:04,464 --> 00:13:06,989 as President of the United States, 234 00:13:07,066 --> 00:13:09,933 and they'd have me putting in my hospitaI room; 235 00:13:10,002 --> 00:13:11,993 Never retire, Mr; Lazar; 236 00:13:12,438 --> 00:13:17,375 To me, the unhappiest peopIe of the worId are retired; 237 00:13:17,443 --> 00:13:19,240 No purpose; 238 00:13:19,312 --> 00:13:22,076 What makes Iife mean something is purpose; 239 00:13:22,148 --> 00:13:25,049 A goaI; A battIe; A struggIe; 240 00:13:25,118 --> 00:13:27,348 WeII, even if you don't win it; 241 00:13:27,854 --> 00:13:30,345 When my doctor decIared me unfit 242 00:13:30,423 --> 00:13:32,254 to give testimony in the Watergate triaI, 243 00:13:32,325 --> 00:13:34,555 everybody thought I'd be reIieved; 244 00:13:34,627 --> 00:13:36,219 WeII, they were wrong; 245 00:13:36,295 --> 00:13:37,819 That was the Iowest I got; 246 00:13:37,897 --> 00:13:42,334 WeII, if it's a chaIIenge you want, here's one you might enjoy; 247 00:13:42,401 --> 00:13:46,337 How to spend $2 miIIion, 2;3 to be precise; 248 00:13:46,405 --> 00:13:48,202 It's what I got for your memoirs; 249 00:13:48,274 --> 00:13:49,741 WeII, thank you; 250 00:13:49,809 --> 00:13:51,071 Eh;;; 251 00:13:51,144 --> 00:13:52,907 It might be a IittIe short of what I wanted, 252 00:13:52,979 --> 00:13:56,540 but Iet me assure you, it's a whoIe Iot more than they wanted; 253 00:13:56,616 --> 00:13:58,641 That book is important to me; 254 00:13:58,718 --> 00:14:02,415 It's probabIy the onIy chance I'm gonna get to put the record straight 255 00:14:02,488 --> 00:14:05,855 and remind peopIe the Nixon years weren't aII bad; 256 00:14:07,326 --> 00:14:11,228 You know, if you're trying to put the record straight, 257 00:14:11,297 --> 00:14:12,764 I'd at Ieast taIk to him; 258 00:14:12,832 --> 00:14:13,958 NIXON: Who? 259 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,733 David Frost; EngIish taIk show guy; 260 00:14:18,471 --> 00:14:21,372 Why wouId I want to taIk to David Frost? 261 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,238 WeII, a whiIe back, he wrote asking for an interview; 262 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:25,641 No; 263 00:14:25,711 --> 00:14:27,042 WeII, we didn't get back to him; 264 00:14:27,113 --> 00:14:29,445 FrankIy, we didn't find him appropriate; 265 00:14:29,515 --> 00:14:32,279 WeII, I thought that we were doing one with CBS; 266 00:14:32,351 --> 00:14:34,319 We are; I just figured doing it with Frost 267 00:14:34,387 --> 00:14:36,514 wouId be a whoIe Iot easier than doing it with Mike WaIIace; 268 00:14:36,589 --> 00:14:40,923 It wouId, but it wouId have a Iot Iess, you know, credibiIity; 269 00:14:40,993 --> 00:14:44,520 True, true; CouId probabIy get more money; 270 00:14:47,333 --> 00:14:49,096 ReaIIy? Look; 271 00:14:49,168 --> 00:14:52,569 We'II aIways have 350 on the tabIe from CBS; 272 00:14:52,638 --> 00:14:56,369 But if I couId get Frost to pay more and secure better terms, 273 00:14:56,876 --> 00:14:58,969 it might be a shame to pass; 274 00:14:59,545 --> 00:15:02,742 It'd be interesting to know where he is right now; 275 00:15:03,182 --> 00:15:05,776 We tied him to raiIway tracks, and he escaped; 276 00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:09,117 We buried him aIive, and he waIked free; 277 00:15:09,188 --> 00:15:13,591 Today we're Iowering escape artist Derek Harrison into the water 278 00:15:13,659 --> 00:15:17,993 to see if he can miracuIousIy cheat death once more; 279 00:15:18,064 --> 00:15:20,498 Good evening, and weIcome to Great Escapes; 280 00:15:20,566 --> 00:15:22,500 My name is David Frost; 281 00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,129 DIRECTOR: Okay, that is a cut; 282 00:15:26,205 --> 00:15:27,297 Thank you; 283 00:15:27,373 --> 00:15:30,672 In any deaI, you need to know your opponent's breaking point; 284 00:15:32,078 --> 00:15:33,773 To assess that, you might caII them 285 00:15:33,846 --> 00:15:36,076 Iate at night or at the weekend; 286 00:15:36,716 --> 00:15:39,549 If they take the caII, you know they're desperate; 287 00:15:39,619 --> 00:15:43,055 And from that moment on, you know you have the upper hand; 288 00:15:43,589 --> 00:15:45,489 (PHONE RINGING) 289 00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:55,293 HeIIo? 290 00:15:55,368 --> 00:15:57,063 Mr; Frost? Irving Lazar; 291 00:15:58,437 --> 00:15:59,927 Who? 292 00:16:00,006 --> 00:16:03,169 Swifty Lazar; I represent President Nixon; 293 00:16:03,242 --> 00:16:04,504 What time is it? 294 00:16:04,577 --> 00:16:05,566 Bad time? 295 00:16:05,645 --> 00:16:08,443 (STUTTERING) No! Not at aII; 296 00:16:11,517 --> 00:16:15,351 I'm caIIing with regard to your request for an interview 297 00:16:15,421 --> 00:16:18,413 and to say, having considered it, 298 00:16:18,491 --> 00:16:22,484 my cIient is not necessariIy opposed to the idea; 299 00:16:22,561 --> 00:16:26,292 ReaIIy? WeII, that's terrific news! 300 00:16:26,365 --> 00:16:28,094 For God's sake; 301 00:16:28,167 --> 00:16:30,226 SWIFTY; I got $500,000; 302 00:16:30,303 --> 00:16:31,702 Is that good? 303 00:16:31,771 --> 00:16:36,401 Mr; President, it's a haIf a miIIion doIIars for a news interview; 304 00:16:36,475 --> 00:16:37,737 It's unprecedented; 305 00:16:37,810 --> 00:16:40,005 Yeah? WeII, what's the catch? 306 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:43,242 With Frost? None; It'II be a big wet kiss; 307 00:16:43,816 --> 00:16:46,444 This guy'II be so gratefuI to be getting it at aII, 308 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:48,214 he'II pitch puffbaIIs aII night 309 00:16:48,287 --> 00:16:51,120 and pay a haIf a miIIion doIIars for the priviIege; 310 00:16:54,493 --> 00:16:56,859 WeII, you think you couId get 550? 311 00:16:58,164 --> 00:16:59,495 I got 6; 312 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,065 BIRT: David, how couId you have done that? What? 313 00:17:03,135 --> 00:17:05,069 $600,000; That's a fortune; 314 00:17:05,137 --> 00:17:06,126 200 on signature? 315 00:17:06,205 --> 00:17:07,672 Don't worry about the money; 316 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:10,106 My God; Most Americans think he beIongs in jaiI; 317 00:17:10,176 --> 00:17:11,871 You're making him a rich man; 318 00:17:11,944 --> 00:17:13,878 PIus, by outbidding them, you've aIready made enemies 319 00:17:13,946 --> 00:17:15,436 of the networks; They're just jeaIous; 320 00:17:15,514 --> 00:17:18,039 They're aIready sounding off about checkbook journaIism; 321 00:17:18,117 --> 00:17:19,550 And if the networks are against you, 322 00:17:19,618 --> 00:17:21,017 syndication's aIways going to be a struggIe; 323 00:17:21,087 --> 00:17:22,645 No syndication, no advance saIes; 324 00:17:22,722 --> 00:17:24,246 No advance saIes, no commerciaIs; 325 00:17:24,323 --> 00:17:25,756 No commerciaIs, no revenue; 326 00:17:25,825 --> 00:17:29,488 And here's the bigger question, why do it? You don't need it; 327 00:17:29,562 --> 00:17:30,688 Your career's in great shape; 328 00:17:30,763 --> 00:17:32,924 This wiII just spread you across three continents, 329 00:17:32,998 --> 00:17:34,590 jeopardize the other shows; 330 00:17:34,667 --> 00:17:36,066 Isn't it true that ChanneI Nine in AustraIia 331 00:17:36,135 --> 00:17:37,830 want you to do another season of your taIk show for them? 332 00:17:37,903 --> 00:17:38,961 Yes; And London, too? 333 00:17:39,038 --> 00:17:41,165 Yes, but that wouId be London and AustraIia; 334 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,003 This wouId be;;; What? 335 00:17:43,609 --> 00:17:45,099 You wouIdn't understand, John; 336 00:17:45,177 --> 00:17:48,010 You were never part of the show in New York, 337 00:17:48,647 --> 00:17:50,444 but it's indescribabIe; 338 00:17:50,516 --> 00:17:55,579 Success in America is unIike success anywhere eIse; 339 00:17:57,022 --> 00:17:59,047 And the emptiness when it's gone; 340 00:18:00,459 --> 00:18:05,897 And the sickening thought that it may never come back; 341 00:18:06,832 --> 00:18:09,198 You know, there's a restaurant in New York caIIed Sardi's; 342 00:18:09,268 --> 00:18:11,031 Ordinary mortaIs can't get a tabIe; 343 00:18:11,103 --> 00:18:12,798 John, the pIace was my canteen! 344 00:18:12,872 --> 00:18:13,964 You know, I'd be happier 345 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:15,267 if I heard some kind of vision 346 00:18:15,341 --> 00:18:16,501 that you had for this interview; 347 00:18:16,575 --> 00:18:17,735 MAN: Excuse me, Mr; Frost; 348 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:18,936 I'd heard you were going to be here; 349 00:18:19,011 --> 00:18:20,945 WouId you mind? Of course; 350 00:18:21,013 --> 00:18:22,503 But I don't; I just hear a man doing it 351 00:18:22,581 --> 00:18:23,843 because it wouId create headIines 352 00:18:23,916 --> 00:18:26,009 or give him a pIace at the top tabIe; 353 00:18:26,085 --> 00:18:27,450 And that is what makes me nervous; 354 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,250 And you do nervous so beautifuIIy, John; 355 00:18:30,322 --> 00:18:33,621 ''HeIIo, good evening and weIcome;'' 356 00:18:34,093 --> 00:18:35,617 (FROST LAUGHS) 357 00:18:36,829 --> 00:18:38,763 I don't actuaIIy say that; 358 00:18:38,831 --> 00:18:40,389 HeIIo, Mr; Frost; 359 00:18:46,972 --> 00:18:48,200 Champagne? 360 00:18:48,274 --> 00:18:49,969 CAROLINE: No, thank you; 361 00:18:50,976 --> 00:18:53,035 FLIGHT ATTENDANT: Another gIass, sir? 362 00:19:10,563 --> 00:19:12,724 You don't Iike champagne? 363 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,758 Not on airpIanes; 364 00:19:15,835 --> 00:19:18,133 Yes, it dehydrates one terribIy; 365 00:19:18,971 --> 00:19:21,633 The trick is to have a gIass of water on the go, too; 366 00:19:21,707 --> 00:19:24,232 Like the Viennese serve coffee; 367 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:26,574 WeII, I've never been to Vienna; 368 00:19:26,645 --> 00:19:29,113 Oh; WeII, you'd Iike it; 369 00:19:29,181 --> 00:19:32,207 It's Iike Paris without the French; 370 00:19:35,221 --> 00:19:36,779 What's your name? 371 00:19:36,856 --> 00:19:38,050 CaroIine; 372 00:19:38,123 --> 00:19:39,147 David; 373 00:19:39,225 --> 00:19:41,921 Yes, I know; David Frost; 374 00:19:42,928 --> 00:19:45,726 ''HeIIo and good evening and weIcome;'' 375 00:19:50,469 --> 00:19:54,166 You know, I heard an interview with you recentIy on the radio; 376 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,572 You were giving it from the back of your RoIIs-Royce; 377 00:19:56,642 --> 00:19:57,768 BentIey; 378 00:19:57,843 --> 00:19:58,901 On the phone; 379 00:19:58,978 --> 00:20:00,240 They said that you were a person 380 00:20:00,312 --> 00:20:03,338 who defined the age we Iive in; 381 00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:05,007 ReaIIy? Mmm; 382 00:20:05,551 --> 00:20:07,143 You and VidaI Sassoon; 383 00:20:08,854 --> 00:20:11,823 But what made you exceptionaI, they said, 384 00:20:11,891 --> 00:20:15,827 was that you were a person who had achieved great fame 385 00:20:15,895 --> 00:20:19,262 without possessing any discernibIe quaIity; 386 00:20:19,331 --> 00:20:20,559 How kind; Mmm-hmm; 387 00:20:20,633 --> 00:20:23,932 And that you fIy around a great deaI; 388 00:20:24,003 --> 00:20:26,301 WeII, that's true; 389 00:20:27,206 --> 00:20:28,195 Why? 390 00:20:28,274 --> 00:20:29,764 I Iike to keep busy; 391 00:20:30,409 --> 00:20:31,808 Why? 392 00:20:31,877 --> 00:20:34,437 I find it more interesting than keeping stiII; 393 00:20:35,514 --> 00:20:37,448 You know, you have very sad eyes; 394 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:39,947 Do I? Mmm; 395 00:20:40,019 --> 00:20:42,010 Has anyone toId you that before? 396 00:20:42,555 --> 00:20:43,817 No; 397 00:20:43,889 --> 00:20:45,550 Are you a sad person? 398 00:20:49,428 --> 00:20:51,988 Let's taIk about you a IittIe bit; 399 00:20:52,064 --> 00:20:54,555 Of course, you feeI more comfortabIe asking questions; 400 00:20:54,633 --> 00:20:56,567 How right you are! 401 00:20:56,902 --> 00:20:58,631 This is your captain speaking; 402 00:20:58,704 --> 00:20:59,693 You may have noticed we've begun 403 00:20:59,772 --> 00:21:01,899 our finaI descent into Los AngeIes; 404 00:21:02,808 --> 00:21:05,868 If you couId pIease return to your seats and fasten your seat beIts, 405 00:21:05,945 --> 00:21:08,004 we'II be Ianding very shortIy; Thank you; 406 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,378 CAROLINE: So how about you? Where are you going? 407 00:21:10,449 --> 00:21:12,815 To meet Richard Nixon; 408 00:21:12,885 --> 00:21:14,113 ReaIIy? 409 00:21:15,788 --> 00:21:18,586 You know, they say he has the most enormous head, 410 00:21:19,058 --> 00:21:20,616 but the sexiest voice; 411 00:21:20,693 --> 00:21:22,058 Where is he now? 412 00:21:22,328 --> 00:21:25,855 In some dark underground cave Iicking his wounds? 413 00:21:26,732 --> 00:21:29,496 ActuaIIy, no; In his rather smart beachside viIIa 414 00:21:29,568 --> 00:21:30,626 in CaIifornia; 415 00:21:30,703 --> 00:21:33,433 ReaIIy? Richard Nixon in a beachside viIIa? 416 00:21:33,505 --> 00:21:35,097 How incongruous; 417 00:21:35,174 --> 00:21:37,142 You can come if you'd Iike; 418 00:21:37,643 --> 00:21:39,304 To meet Nixon? 419 00:21:40,045 --> 00:21:41,740 Why not? 420 00:21:43,115 --> 00:21:44,412 Are you sure? 421 00:21:47,453 --> 00:21:49,148 You know, I wouId Iove that; 422 00:21:49,221 --> 00:21:51,382 PILO T; Cabin crew, pIease prepare for arrivaI; 423 00:21:51,457 --> 00:21:54,324 WeII, I'II get my office to caII you first thing in the morning 424 00:21:54,393 --> 00:21:56,953 and send a car with a phone; 425 00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:58,018 Oh; 426 00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:03,526 He did, too; Money no object; 427 00:22:03,602 --> 00:22:07,595 Everything gIittered and was goIden; 428 00:22:07,673 --> 00:22:09,140 WeII, on the outside; 429 00:22:09,208 --> 00:22:12,041 Of course, what I didn't know was that in the meantime, 430 00:22:12,111 --> 00:22:14,272 he'd gone to aII the major networks 431 00:22:14,346 --> 00:22:16,814 to try and get interest in the interviews; 432 00:22:17,349 --> 00:22:20,216 I'm sorry, David, but we have a poIicy 433 00:22:20,285 --> 00:22:22,719 of not paying for a news interview; 434 00:22:22,788 --> 00:22:25,951 Look, we Iove your work as an entertainer; 435 00:22:26,025 --> 00:22:27,151 That Guinness show? 436 00:22:27,226 --> 00:22:28,716 Love it; You're a funny guy; 437 00:22:28,794 --> 00:22:30,989 But an interview Iike this? 438 00:22:31,063 --> 00:22:33,964 You're asking us to pay a British taIk show host 439 00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:36,263 to interview an American president 440 00:22:36,335 --> 00:22:39,998 with absoIuteIy no editoriaI controIs whatsoever in return? 441 00:22:40,072 --> 00:22:42,040 WeII, you can't say it's not a fresh approach; 442 00:22:42,107 --> 00:22:43,836 I know you're very busy; 443 00:22:43,976 --> 00:22:45,910 I'm not gonna keep you from it; 444 00:22:46,545 --> 00:22:48,137 Thank you for coming in; 445 00:22:48,213 --> 00:22:50,306 I'm gonna have to get back to you; 446 00:22:50,382 --> 00:22:53,249 Okay, thank you so much for your time; 447 00:22:53,318 --> 00:22:54,376 David, good Iuck; 448 00:22:54,453 --> 00:22:56,819 He never Iet on to anyone at the time, 449 00:22:56,889 --> 00:22:58,083 not even me; You know, that wouId have meant;;; 450 00:22:58,991 --> 00:22:59,980 Thanks; 451 00:23:00,059 --> 00:23:03,620 ;;;admitting faiIure, and David doesn't do faiIure; 452 00:23:34,727 --> 00:23:36,661 FROST: There you are; 453 00:23:36,729 --> 00:23:39,220 See, you don't have to do a thing yourseIf; 454 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:44,567 (INDISTINCT) 455 00:23:58,550 --> 00:23:59,642 WeII; 456 00:24:00,285 --> 00:24:01,445 You found it okay; 457 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,646 Yes, thank you; 458 00:24:02,721 --> 00:24:03,881 PIeasure to meet you, Mr; Frost; 459 00:24:03,956 --> 00:24:05,048 And you, sir; 460 00:24:05,124 --> 00:24:06,648 May I present CaroIine Cushing? 461 00:24:06,725 --> 00:24:07,783 Miss Cushing; 462 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:09,953 HeIIo; Your house is very beautifuI; 463 00:24:10,028 --> 00:24:11,188 ReaIIy; Very romantic; 464 00:24:11,263 --> 00:24:12,355 WeII, thank you; 465 00:24:12,431 --> 00:24:14,262 And my producer, John Birt; 466 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:15,857 Nice to meet you; How do you do? 467 00:24:15,934 --> 00:24:19,370 This is Mr; Lazar, and this is Jack Brennan; 468 00:24:19,438 --> 00:24:21,770 Now, Miss Cushing, wouId you Iike to take a tour, 469 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,138 you know, maybe stretch your Iegs after your Iong journey? 470 00:24:24,209 --> 00:24:26,871 Yes, pIease; I'd Iove that; Thank you; 471 00:24:27,913 --> 00:24:29,972 Come on in; This is my office; 472 00:24:30,048 --> 00:24:34,178 Now, this is where Brezhnev and I had our summit; 473 00:24:34,253 --> 00:24:38,622 Yeah; Brezhnev was there, and Gromyko there, Dobrynin there; 474 00:24:39,291 --> 00:24:42,783 We taIked for nine hours straight; 475 00:24:43,996 --> 00:24:47,488 After the meeting, as a souvenir of the visit, 476 00:24:47,566 --> 00:24:51,832 I remember that we had a LincoIn speciaIIy made; 477 00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:55,101 Dark bIue, cherry wood, Ieather; 478 00:24:55,174 --> 00:24:57,836 WeII, we got inside for the photographers, 479 00:24:57,910 --> 00:25:02,176 when the next thing you know, he steps on the gas; 480 00:25:02,247 --> 00:25:06,980 Now, the first ruIe of poIiticaI Iife is 481 00:25:07,052 --> 00:25:11,489 you never Iet a president get behind the wheeI of a car, ever; 482 00:25:11,557 --> 00:25:13,548 I mean, we're not used to doing anything 483 00:25:13,625 --> 00:25:15,593 for ourseIves, Iet aIone drive; 484 00:25:15,661 --> 00:25:18,858 And the Chairman, Jesus, the way he put his foot down, 485 00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:21,695 my guess is the Iast thing he drove was 486 00:25:21,767 --> 00:25:24,793 a tractor on some Ukrainian potato farm; 487 00:25:26,705 --> 00:25:28,263 He crashed into curbs; 488 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:29,830 He went over speed bumps; 489 00:25:29,908 --> 00:25:32,809 He went twice around my whoIe estate; 490 00:25:32,878 --> 00:25:37,679 FinaIIy, we ended up at some remote point on the coast, 491 00:25:37,749 --> 00:25:40,684 out there overIooking the sea; 492 00:25:40,752 --> 00:25:44,950 He turns off the gas, and he taIks for two hours 493 00:25:45,023 --> 00:25:48,481 about his favorite subject, steeI miIIs; 494 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,324 He said, ''Mr; President, most poIiticians 495 00:25:51,396 --> 00:25:54,092 ''have tragedy in their earIy Iives;'' 496 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,198 WeII, I toId him that I Iost two brothers to tubercuIosis; 497 00:25:59,271 --> 00:26:04,265 And he watched his father die from the cancer he caught in the steeIworks; 498 00:26:05,177 --> 00:26:09,546 He was a sad man and a nobIe adversary; 499 00:26:10,215 --> 00:26:12,581 I wouIdn't want to be a Russian Ieader; 500 00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:15,451 They never know when they're being taped; 501 00:26:21,059 --> 00:26:22,890 Okay, I guess that's it then, huh? 502 00:26:22,961 --> 00:26:24,758 UntiI March; I Iook forward to it; 503 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:26,695 WeII, thank you, Mr; President; So do I; 504 00:26:26,765 --> 00:26:28,392 You know, it's a funny thing that 505 00:26:28,467 --> 00:26:32,164 I've never been chaIIenged to a dueI before; 506 00:26:32,237 --> 00:26:33,499 I guess that's what this is; 507 00:26:33,572 --> 00:26:35,506 FROST: Yeah, weII, not reaIIy; 508 00:26:36,575 --> 00:26:38,167 Of course it is; 509 00:26:40,312 --> 00:26:41,973 And I Iike that; 510 00:26:43,282 --> 00:26:47,218 No hoIds barred, eh? No hoIds barred; 511 00:26:51,089 --> 00:26:55,253 Mr; Frost, there's stiII the smaII matter of the;;; 512 00:26:56,762 --> 00:26:58,024 Of course; 513 00:26:59,464 --> 00:27:01,932 I do beg your pardon; 514 00:27:12,244 --> 00:27:17,511 Right; $200,000; 515 00:27:17,883 --> 00:27:20,750 I do hope that isn't coming out of your own pocket; 516 00:27:20,819 --> 00:27:23,913 WeII, beIieve me, sir, I wish my pockets were that deep; 517 00:27:24,923 --> 00:27:26,618 Made out in the name of? 518 00:27:26,692 --> 00:27:27,818 Irving PauI Lazar; 519 00:27:27,893 --> 00:27:29,724 Richard M; Nixon; 520 00:27:38,737 --> 00:27:39,863 Here you go; 521 00:27:41,173 --> 00:27:43,038 MANOLO: Okay, smiIe; 522 00:27:44,409 --> 00:27:47,674 There; Now you can put that in your apartment in New York, 523 00:27:47,746 --> 00:27:51,307 and aII your IiberaI friends can use it as a dartboard; 524 00:27:51,383 --> 00:27:55,080 WeII, actuaIIy, I'm Iiving in Monte CarIo at the moment; 525 00:27:55,153 --> 00:27:56,552 ReaIIy? 526 00:27:56,621 --> 00:27:58,452 Yes; Goodbye, Mr; President; 527 00:27:59,992 --> 00:28:02,927 Hey; Take my advice; 528 00:28:02,995 --> 00:28:04,553 You shouId marry that woman; 529 00:28:04,629 --> 00:28:07,860 Yes; LoveIy, isn't she? 530 00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:10,902 More important than that, she comes from Monaco; 531 00:28:10,969 --> 00:28:12,994 They pay no taxes there; 532 00:28:14,306 --> 00:28:16,240 Bye-bye; Goodbye; 533 00:28:24,716 --> 00:28:26,377 I bet you it did; 534 00:28:26,451 --> 00:28:27,475 What? 535 00:28:27,552 --> 00:28:28,951 Come out of his own pocket; 536 00:28:29,021 --> 00:28:31,148 You know, he couIdn't Iook me in the eye; 537 00:28:31,223 --> 00:28:32,850 WeII, I hear the networks aren't biting; 538 00:28:32,924 --> 00:28:35,017 Without the networks, the ad agencies don't want to know; 539 00:28:35,093 --> 00:28:36,321 So if you ask me, there's a good chance 540 00:28:36,395 --> 00:28:37,555 this whoIe thing may never happen; 541 00:28:37,629 --> 00:28:42,828 ReaIIy? So that meeting we just had might have cost him $200,000? 542 00:28:42,901 --> 00:28:43,993 Correct; 543 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:48,328 Had I known that, I wouId have offered him a cup of tea; 544 00:28:48,807 --> 00:28:51,207 Say, did you notice his shoes? 545 00:28:51,276 --> 00:28:52,300 No; 546 00:28:52,377 --> 00:28:55,869 ItaIian; No Iaces; What do you think? 547 00:28:56,681 --> 00:28:59,081 My peopIe tried to get me to wear a pair Iike that; 548 00:28:59,151 --> 00:29:01,711 I think a man's shoes shouId have Iaces, sir; 549 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,944 You do? 550 00:29:03,021 --> 00:29:06,582 Yeah; PersonaIIy, I find those ItaIian shoes very effeminate; 551 00:29:08,126 --> 00:29:09,718 Yes, quite right; 552 00:29:12,597 --> 00:29:14,724 NBC EXECUTIVE; I'm sorry, David, but it's a no; 553 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,529 Try to Iook at it from our point of view; 554 00:29:16,601 --> 00:29:19,536 Why wouId an American network hire a totaI outsider, 555 00:29:19,604 --> 00:29:22,869 and someone who's aIready had his own show canceIed, incidentaIIy? 556 00:29:22,941 --> 00:29:24,465 I see; WeII, I'm sorry you feeI this way; 557 00:29:24,543 --> 00:29:27,410 ObviousIy, I think you're making a terribIe mistake; 558 00:29:30,015 --> 00:29:31,380 NBC; 559 00:29:32,818 --> 00:29:36,879 WeII, that's the networks out, aII of them; 560 00:29:38,457 --> 00:29:40,550 WeII, that's the end of that, then; 561 00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:47,527 I'm sorry, David; 562 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,997 Not so fast; 563 00:29:51,403 --> 00:29:53,928 Where's your adventurer's spirit? 564 00:29:54,005 --> 00:29:55,973 The idea is we pay for the program 565 00:29:56,041 --> 00:30:01,069 and syndicate it ourseIves, compIeteIy bypassing the networks; 566 00:30:01,146 --> 00:30:03,740 Just imagine it, we'd be our own network for the night; 567 00:30:03,815 --> 00:30:05,715 Hey, Bob; FROST: How does that grab you? 568 00:30:05,784 --> 00:30:07,649 Hey, come on in; David's on the phone; 569 00:30:07,719 --> 00:30:09,550 FROST: No, never been done before; 570 00:30:09,621 --> 00:30:11,213 Historic stuff; 571 00:30:14,593 --> 00:30:17,687 Just think about it, okay? And caII me back; 572 00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:19,820 Yeah? Yeah; 573 00:30:19,898 --> 00:30:22,924 David, I'd Iike you to meet Jim Reston and Bob ZeInick, 574 00:30:23,001 --> 00:30:24,195 our two prospective corner men; 575 00:30:24,269 --> 00:30:25,361 DeIighted to meet you; 576 00:30:25,437 --> 00:30:27,234 Come on in; Make yourseIves at home; 577 00:30:27,305 --> 00:30:28,636 Bob's been Washington correspondent 578 00:30:28,707 --> 00:30:30,004 for PubIic Radio for the past 10 years; 579 00:30:30,075 --> 00:30:32,270 Moving to ABC in the new year; 580 00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:33,675 The generaI feeIing, David, 581 00:30:33,745 --> 00:30:37,545 is that I have been wasting my matinee idoI Iooks on radio; 582 00:30:38,183 --> 00:30:40,174 Jim here teaches at the University of North CaroIina 583 00:30:40,252 --> 00:30:44,086 and is writing a book about the criminaI dishonesty, corruption, 584 00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:47,223 paranoia and abuses of power of Richard Nixon; 585 00:30:47,292 --> 00:30:48,759 Second on the subject; 586 00:30:48,827 --> 00:30:49,885 Fourth; 587 00:30:49,961 --> 00:30:52,020 WeII, deIighted to have you both aboard; 588 00:30:52,097 --> 00:30:54,531 ActuaIIy, before I sign on, I wouId Iike to hear 589 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,466 what you were hoping to achieve with this interview; 590 00:30:58,069 --> 00:31:00,060 What I want to achieve? 591 00:31:00,138 --> 00:31:01,400 Yeah; 592 00:31:01,873 --> 00:31:05,570 Jim, weII, I've secured 1 2 taping days; 593 00:31:05,644 --> 00:31:07,578 That's cIose to 30 hours 594 00:31:07,646 --> 00:31:09,841 with the most compeIIing and controversiaI poIitician 595 00:31:09,915 --> 00:31:11,678 of our times; 596 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:13,217 Isn't that enough? 597 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,451 WeII, not for me; 598 00:31:17,789 --> 00:31:21,122 Look, I'd be giving up a year of my Iife; I'm Ieaving my famiIy 599 00:31:21,193 --> 00:31:23,855 to work on a subject matter that means more 600 00:31:23,929 --> 00:31:25,624 than you can probabIy imagine, 601 00:31:25,697 --> 00:31:26,789 and the idea of doing aII that 602 00:31:26,865 --> 00:31:30,301 without achieving what I want to, personaIIy, 603 00:31:30,368 --> 00:31:32,131 wouId be unthinkabIe to me; 604 00:31:32,204 --> 00:31:33,432 (INTERRUPTING) FROST: No, aII right; 605 00:31:34,172 --> 00:31:36,868 WeII, what is it that you want to achieve? 606 00:31:42,514 --> 00:31:45,483 I'd Iike to give Richard Nixon the triaI he never had; 607 00:31:45,550 --> 00:31:48,815 Of course, we'II be asking difficuIt questions; 608 00:31:48,887 --> 00:31:50,548 DifficuIt questions; 609 00:31:51,489 --> 00:31:53,684 The man Iost 21,000 Americans 610 00:31:53,758 --> 00:31:56,192 and a miIIion Indo-Chinese during his administration; 611 00:31:56,261 --> 00:31:59,059 He onIy escaped jaiI because of Ford's pardon; 612 00:31:59,130 --> 00:32:02,429 Yes, but equaIIy, going after him in some knee-jerk way, 613 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:06,027 you know, assuming he's a terribIe guy, 614 00:32:06,104 --> 00:32:09,801 wouIdn't that onIy create more sympathy for him than anything eIse? 615 00:32:09,874 --> 00:32:11,341 (SIGHS) You know;;; 616 00:32:13,545 --> 00:32:15,342 Right now, I submit it's impossibIe 617 00:32:15,413 --> 00:32:18,905 to feeI anything cIose to sympathy for Richard Nixon; 618 00:32:18,984 --> 00:32:21,111 He devaIued the presidency, 619 00:32:21,186 --> 00:32:24,781 and he Ieft the country that eIected him in trauma; 620 00:32:25,924 --> 00:32:29,621 The American peopIe need a conviction, pure and simpIe; 621 00:32:29,694 --> 00:32:32,390 The integrity of our poIiticaI system, 622 00:32:32,464 --> 00:32:38,300 of democracy as an idea, entireIy depends on it; 623 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,668 And if in years to come, peopIe Iook back 624 00:32:40,739 --> 00:32:42,138 and say it was in this interview 625 00:32:42,207 --> 00:32:43,799 that Richard Nixon exonerated himseIf, 626 00:32:43,875 --> 00:32:46,070 that wouId be the worst crime of aII; 627 00:32:55,787 --> 00:32:58,847 Did you know that Mike WaIIace is doing a piece on this? 628 00:33:00,792 --> 00:33:03,488 And that in the bars around CapitoI HiII and Georgetown 629 00:33:03,561 --> 00:33:05,324 this entire project is a joke? 630 00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:08,059 ZELNICK: Come on; Jim, come on; 631 00:33:08,133 --> 00:33:10,465 Thanks for that, Jim; 632 00:33:11,503 --> 00:33:13,835 CouId you give us a coupIe of minutes? 633 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:22,569 You're unbeIievabIe; I'm sorry, Bob; 634 00:33:22,647 --> 00:33:24,877 You know, Jim, I went way out on a Iimb for you; 635 00:33:24,949 --> 00:33:26,541 I mean, some of us actuaIIy want this job; 636 00:33:26,618 --> 00:33:28,108 I want it, too, if it's done right; 637 00:33:28,186 --> 00:33:29,983 WeII, how do you know they're not gonna do it right? 638 00:33:30,055 --> 00:33:31,283 LittIe Lord FauntIeroy in there? 639 00:33:31,356 --> 00:33:32,550 Sympathy for Richard Nixon? 640 00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:34,251 What the;;; He's fuII of shit, man! 641 00:33:34,326 --> 00:33:35,850 How do you know that? 642 00:33:38,063 --> 00:33:41,032 Is Mike WaIIace doing a piece on this? 643 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,324 ApparentIy; 644 00:33:43,401 --> 00:33:45,028 Why didn't you teII me? 645 00:33:45,770 --> 00:33:47,169 It isn't reIevant; 646 00:33:48,273 --> 00:33:52,004 What's the angIe? ''British taIk show host, 647 00:33:52,777 --> 00:33:56,508 ''good with actresses, not so good with stonewaIIing presidents;'' 648 00:33:56,815 --> 00:33:58,612 That's the generaI idea, yeah; 649 00:33:58,683 --> 00:33:59,877 Right; 650 00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:03,849 It's hard not to feeI a IittIe insuIted by that; 651 00:34:05,557 --> 00:34:08,025 WeII, Bob's obviousIy a pro; 652 00:34:08,093 --> 00:34:09,287 What are we gonna do about Reston? 653 00:34:09,361 --> 00:34:10,919 WeII, the man's an idiot; He's overemotionaI; 654 00:34:10,995 --> 00:34:12,257 Send him home; 655 00:34:13,665 --> 00:34:15,633 WeII, I think he shouId stay; Why? 656 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:18,999 I Iiked his passion; 657 00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:21,061 He wiII drive us aII bIoody mad; 658 00:34:21,606 --> 00:34:24,336 WeII, maybe, but sometimes being out of your comfort zone 659 00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:27,071 is a good thing, I'm toId; 660 00:34:28,113 --> 00:34:29,375 He stays; 661 00:34:39,991 --> 00:34:44,087 I took my seat next to Mrs; Mao at the banquet tabIe; 662 00:34:44,729 --> 00:34:49,428 Now, one of the chaIIenges of Iife as a president 663 00:34:50,135 --> 00:34:57,064 is the endIess round of cocktaiI parties, sociaI engagements, banquets; 664 00:34:57,809 --> 00:34:59,800 And peopIe who know me wouId teII you 665 00:34:59,878 --> 00:35:04,110 that smaII taIk is not one of my strong suits, either; No; 666 00:35:04,783 --> 00:35:07,877 ParticuIarIy not in Mandarin; 667 00:35:10,889 --> 00:35:15,883 So Mrs; Mao and I, we just, weII, you know, stared at one another; 668 00:35:17,028 --> 00:35:21,328 And then across the tabIe, Mrs; Nixon and Chairman Mao himseIf, weII, 669 00:35:22,167 --> 00:35:24,533 they stared at one another, too; 670 00:35:24,602 --> 00:35:27,469 And then further down, Dr; Kissinger 671 00:35:27,539 --> 00:35:30,372 and their foreign minister, weII, 672 00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:33,901 you're getting the picture now; 673 00:35:38,583 --> 00:35:40,551 I can't stand it, Jack! 674 00:35:41,853 --> 00:35:47,018 Reducing the presidency to a series of banaI anecdotes; 675 00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:50,025 I feeI Iike a circus animaI doing tricks; 676 00:35:50,228 --> 00:35:51,991 And I thought I made it cIear! 677 00:35:52,063 --> 00:35:56,591 I didn't want to take any questions on Watergate, damn it! 678 00:35:58,036 --> 00:36:00,402 Soon as it came to question time, 679 00:36:00,472 --> 00:36:05,102 aII those sons of bitches ever want to hear about is Watergate! 680 00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:09,670 It's as if aII my other achievements have ceased to exist; 681 00:36:09,747 --> 00:36:11,009 WeII, sir, you're gonna get a chance 682 00:36:11,082 --> 00:36:12,379 to taIk about them sooner than you think; 683 00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:14,111 Yeah? How? 684 00:36:14,185 --> 00:36:16,585 Frost got there; He got the money; 685 00:36:17,889 --> 00:36:19,288 What? 686 00:36:19,357 --> 00:36:20,824 I understand most of it's borrowed, 687 00:36:20,892 --> 00:36:22,655 that his friends have baiIed him out; 688 00:36:22,727 --> 00:36:24,922 But the point is, we start taping at the end of March; 689 00:36:24,996 --> 00:36:27,726 ReaIIy? Now, that's terrific; 690 00:36:27,799 --> 00:36:29,562 How much time is devoted to Watergate? 691 00:36:29,634 --> 00:36:32,501 25%; Just one of four 90-minute shows; 692 00:36:32,570 --> 00:36:34,561 What are the other three divided into? 693 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:36,664 Domestic Affairs, Foreign PoIicy, 694 00:36:36,741 --> 00:36:37,799 and Nixon the Man; 695 00:36:37,876 --> 00:36:38,865 ''Nixon the Man''? 696 00:36:38,943 --> 00:36:41,104 As opposed to what? Nixon the horse? 697 00:36:41,179 --> 00:36:44,342 WeII, I imagine it's some kind of biographicaI piece; 698 00:36:45,783 --> 00:36:50,277 I can see it now; The father that negIected me, the brothers that died; 699 00:36:50,355 --> 00:36:52,414 Spare me; 700 00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:57,553 StiII, now, the fact it's come together, now, that's a good thing, no? 701 00:36:57,629 --> 00:37:00,860 Mr; President, it's fantastic; 702 00:37:00,932 --> 00:37:03,230 Frost is just not in your inteIIectuaI cIass, sir; 703 00:37:03,301 --> 00:37:06,759 You're gonna be abIe to dictate terms, rebuiId your reputation; 704 00:37:06,838 --> 00:37:11,775 If this went weII, if enough peopIe saw it, revised their opinion, 705 00:37:11,843 --> 00:37:15,108 you couId move back East way, way earIier than we expected; 706 00:37:15,179 --> 00:37:17,044 You think? I'm certain; 707 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:24,648 It wouId be so good to go back to where the action is; 708 00:37:24,722 --> 00:37:26,019 You know? 709 00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:29,617 The hunger in my beIIy is stiII there, Jack; 710 00:37:32,497 --> 00:37:35,591 I guess it aII boiIs down to Watergate, huh? 711 00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,329 WeII, that's nothing to worry about, sir; 712 00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:41,133 It's not as if there's gonna be any reveIations; 713 00:37:41,205 --> 00:37:43,935 That stuff's been combed over a miIIion times; 714 00:37:44,008 --> 00:37:46,306 No one has pinned anything on you; 715 00:37:46,377 --> 00:37:48,845 Yeah, stiII, it's been a whiIe 716 00:37:48,913 --> 00:37:50,437 since I spoke about it on the record; 717 00:37:50,515 --> 00:37:52,278 I'm gonna start doing my homework; 718 00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:55,114 Hey, you know what wouId be an interesting thing to find out? 719 00:37:55,186 --> 00:37:56,278 What his strategy is; 720 00:37:56,354 --> 00:37:57,412 Now, where's he staying? 721 00:37:57,488 --> 00:37:59,012 I beIieve The BeverIy HiIton; 722 00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:00,614 The BeverIy HiIton, you say; 723 00:38:00,692 --> 00:38:03,126 WeII, I got the numbers somepIace 724 00:38:03,194 --> 00:38:05,594 of some feIIows that we couId send in; 725 00:38:05,663 --> 00:38:08,257 Cubans with CIA training; 726 00:38:16,741 --> 00:38:18,675 Jesus, Jack, it was a joke; 727 00:38:20,178 --> 00:38:21,577 Yes, sir; 728 00:38:25,416 --> 00:38:27,441 RESTON; A week Iater, we said goodbye to our famiIies, 729 00:38:27,518 --> 00:38:30,612 we hopped on a pIane, and we moved into The BeverIy HiIton; 730 00:38:30,688 --> 00:38:32,679 And that's where we started to dig into our research 731 00:38:32,757 --> 00:38:35,282 and prepare for the interviews; 732 00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:37,454 Yeah, as it happens, we took 733 00:38:37,528 --> 00:38:39,689 the whoIe question of security very seriousIy; 734 00:38:42,066 --> 00:38:45,467 BIRT; And from day one, we kept aII our fiIes in a Iocked safe; 735 00:38:49,207 --> 00:38:52,472 Who was the guy that Mike interviewed? Was that HaIdeman? 736 00:38:52,543 --> 00:38:54,135 BIRT: HaIdeman; RESTON: HaIdeman; And EhrIichman, too; 737 00:38:54,212 --> 00:38:56,703 I aIways get the Germans mixed up; 738 00:38:56,781 --> 00:38:59,375 I'm a IittIe confused by that; 739 00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:02,214 What is HaIdeman's officiaI;;; HeIIo, darIing; 740 00:39:02,854 --> 00:39:05,982 As for the work over the months, we divided it into three sections; 741 00:39:06,057 --> 00:39:09,618 Birt took Vietnam, Bob took Foreign and Domestic PoIicy, 742 00:39:09,694 --> 00:39:12,857 and I got Watergate and the abuses of power; 743 00:39:12,997 --> 00:39:15,830 And David, we never reaIIy saw much of David; 744 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:17,390 RESTON: AII right, so what about the Huston PIan? 745 00:39:17,468 --> 00:39:19,299 You can see the seeds of dirty tricks; 746 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:22,771 EssentiaIIy, it's an attempt to IegaIize dirty tricks; 747 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,967 That's why you gotta get David to put it in the question; 748 00:39:25,043 --> 00:39:26,135 Wiretapping students; 749 00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:27,643 NIXON ON TAPE; But they've traced the money to him; 750 00:39:27,712 --> 00:39:29,236 RESTON: Opening peopIe's maiI; 751 00:39:29,313 --> 00:39:30,337 What about wiretapping? 752 00:39:30,415 --> 00:39:31,404 How many peopIe has he wiretapped? 753 00:39:31,482 --> 00:39:33,746 This guy wiretapped 1 7 peopIe; 754 00:39:33,818 --> 00:39:34,876 BIRT: Seventeen? 755 00:39:34,952 --> 00:39:35,976 IncIuding his own brother; 756 00:39:36,054 --> 00:39:37,954 But you know what? We can't ask him about his brother, 757 00:39:38,022 --> 00:39:40,820 'cause frankIy, if DonaId Nixon was my brother, 758 00:39:40,892 --> 00:39:42,985 I'd wiretap him, too; 759 00:39:44,228 --> 00:39:47,356 RESTON: But wait, okay, so we have breaking and entering; 760 00:39:47,632 --> 00:39:51,090 We have wiretapping, conspiracy to foster prostitution; 761 00:39:51,169 --> 00:39:52,431 And that's Liddy, right? 762 00:39:52,503 --> 00:39:54,767 DeIivery courtesy of Nate 'n AI's 763 00:39:54,872 --> 00:39:56,567 finest deIi seIection; 764 00:39:56,641 --> 00:39:59,166 We're going to need napkins; We'd better have some napkins; 765 00:39:59,243 --> 00:40:01,108 How do we frame a question about Cambodia, 766 00:40:01,179 --> 00:40:02,203 about the iIIicit bombing of Cambodia? 767 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,269 I think you shouId say, 768 00:40:03,347 --> 00:40:04,974 ''How far do you take executive priviIege 769 00:40:05,049 --> 00:40:06,710 ''before it becomes an undemocratic event?'' 770 00:40:06,784 --> 00:40:09,048 I think you frame the question to him as a Quaker; 771 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,817 ''How do you feeI as a Quaker about annihiIating an entire peopIe?'' 772 00:40:16,327 --> 00:40:18,921 FROST: Come on; Are they reaIIy interested in buying time? 773 00:40:18,996 --> 00:40:20,588 Are they going to give us the money? 774 00:40:20,665 --> 00:40:22,189 How serious are they? 775 00:40:22,266 --> 00:40:25,758 You have to set up that he has an anti-democratic personaIity; 776 00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:27,498 There's a reason they caII him Tricky Dick; 777 00:40:27,572 --> 00:40:31,099 Because I had written about and watched Nixon for years, 778 00:40:31,175 --> 00:40:33,302 I got to pIay him in our rehearsaIs; 779 00:40:33,377 --> 00:40:35,436 You know, the feIIas wouId throw me a question, 780 00:40:35,513 --> 00:40:38,414 and I wouId try and anticipate what his response might be; 781 00:40:38,483 --> 00:40:40,508 BIRT: Okay, the White House taping system; 782 00:40:40,585 --> 00:40:43,918 Ours is not the first administration to use taping systems; 783 00:40:43,988 --> 00:40:45,819 Lyndon Johnson's White House used them; So did Kennedy's; 784 00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:48,518 Huston PIan; Wiretapping and aIIeged abuses of power; 785 00:40:48,593 --> 00:40:52,461 Let me teII you, other administrations were up to far worse; 786 00:40:52,697 --> 00:40:55,860 And just for fun, your cIose friend Jack Kennedy; 787 00:40:56,534 --> 00:40:59,128 That man, he screwed anything that moved, 788 00:40:59,270 --> 00:41:01,898 fixed eIections and took us into Vietnam; 789 00:41:01,973 --> 00:41:04,271 And the American peopIe, they Ioved him for it! 790 00:41:04,342 --> 00:41:07,277 Whereas I, Richard MiIhous Nixon, 791 00:41:07,345 --> 00:41:11,247 worked around the cIock in their service, and they hated me! 792 00:41:11,716 --> 00:41:15,675 Look; Look; Now I'm sweating; 793 00:41:15,753 --> 00:41:18,187 Damn it! Damn it! 794 00:41:18,256 --> 00:41:21,350 And Kennedy's so goddamn handsome and bIue-eyed! 795 00:41:21,425 --> 00:41:22,915 And women aII over him! 796 00:41:22,994 --> 00:41:25,292 He screwed anything that moved, and everything; 797 00:41:25,363 --> 00:41:26,625 Had a go at Checkers once; 798 00:41:26,697 --> 00:41:29,097 The poor IittIe bitch was never the same! 799 00:41:30,935 --> 00:41:34,871 GentIemen, finaIIy a friend in the American press; 800 00:41:34,939 --> 00:41:37,601 CAROLINE: Jack Anderson in The Washington Post, 801 00:41:37,675 --> 00:41:40,041 ''When Richard Nixon faces the teIevision cameras 802 00:41:40,111 --> 00:41:42,875 ''for his first interview since he abandoned the White House, 803 00:41:42,947 --> 00:41:46,348 ''he'II be cross-examined as if he were on the witness stand; 804 00:41:46,417 --> 00:41:49,648 ''Frost has hired three crack investigators 805 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,381 ''to heIp him with the research; 806 00:41:51,455 --> 00:41:54,686 ''CIearIy the famous TV interviewer wiII puII no punches;'' 807 00:41:54,759 --> 00:41:56,192 ''Crack investigators''? 808 00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:57,318 Can I be Crack One? 809 00:41:57,395 --> 00:41:58,862 Can I be Deep Crack? 810 00:42:01,032 --> 00:42:02,897 David, can I taIk to you for a sec? 811 00:42:02,967 --> 00:42:04,366 After researching my Iast book, 812 00:42:04,435 --> 00:42:05,766 I was pretty certain CoIson;;; 813 00:42:05,837 --> 00:42:08,169 You know, CharIes CoIson? His darkest henchman? 814 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,536 CoIson, right; CoIson had a meeting with Nixon 815 00:42:09,607 --> 00:42:10,631 (PHONE RINGING) 816 00:42:10,708 --> 00:42:11,834 sometime before June 23, 817 00:42:11,909 --> 00:42:13,342 but I never knew the exact date, 818 00:42:13,411 --> 00:42:15,106 so I couIdn't find the transcript; 819 00:42:15,179 --> 00:42:17,374 But if you gave me a week back in the FederaI Courthouse Iibrary;;; 820 00:42:17,448 --> 00:42:21,111 A week? Goodness, Jim, we can't Iose you for that Iong; 821 00:42:21,185 --> 00:42:22,584 I think this is reaIIy good stuff, Dave; 822 00:42:22,653 --> 00:42:24,621 WouId there be something I couId heIp you with? 823 00:42:24,689 --> 00:42:27,157 You know, if we're gonna naiI Nixon in these interviews, 824 00:42:27,225 --> 00:42:28,624 we're gonna have to ambush him; 825 00:42:28,693 --> 00:42:30,058 We're gonna have to take him by surprise; 826 00:42:30,127 --> 00:42:32,322 Don't worry, Jim; We'II get him anyway; 827 00:42:32,396 --> 00:42:34,956 Hang on a second; David, Jack Brennan; 828 00:42:35,032 --> 00:42:36,522 He sounds a IittIe emotionaI; 829 00:42:36,601 --> 00:42:38,068 I'II take it in here; 830 00:42:38,135 --> 00:42:40,035 He'II be right with you; Yeah; 831 00:42:43,274 --> 00:42:44,866 Jack; Watergate; 832 00:42:44,942 --> 00:42:46,034 Yes, Jack; 833 00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:49,705 Our Iawyers want us to agree on a definition of the word; 834 00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:51,645 WeII, I beIieve it's a Iarge hoteI 835 00:42:51,716 --> 00:42:53,843 and office compIex in Washington, Jack; 836 00:42:53,918 --> 00:42:54,976 You know what I'm taIking about; 837 00:42:55,052 --> 00:42:56,519 For the interviews; 838 00:42:56,754 --> 00:42:58,654 We want to propose that Watergate 839 00:42:58,723 --> 00:43:01,248 be an umbreIIa term for everything negative; 840 00:43:02,059 --> 00:43:03,083 (STAMMERS) 841 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,525 HoId on a minute; 842 00:43:08,499 --> 00:43:11,229 So aII the other domestic charges 843 00:43:11,302 --> 00:43:12,667 against him, the Brookings Institute, 844 00:43:12,737 --> 00:43:14,864 the PIumbers Union, the Enemies List, 845 00:43:14,939 --> 00:43:17,430 you're saying aII that goes into Watergate? 846 00:43:18,175 --> 00:43:19,767 Correct; 847 00:43:19,844 --> 00:43:22,369 That is absurd and a cIear breach 848 00:43:22,446 --> 00:43:24,437 of the terms of our agreement; 849 00:43:24,515 --> 00:43:27,575 Okay; How wouId you define Watergate? 850 00:43:27,652 --> 00:43:28,880 WeII, that it covers just that; 851 00:43:28,953 --> 00:43:30,716 The Watergate break-in of June 1 7th 852 00:43:30,788 --> 00:43:33,086 and the subsequent cover-up and investigation; 853 00:43:33,157 --> 00:43:34,852 Fine; In which case, the deaI is off; 854 00:43:34,926 --> 00:43:38,453 Fine; In which case, you can expect a Iawsuit 855 00:43:38,562 --> 00:43:40,689 for something in excess of $20 miIIion 856 00:43:40,765 --> 00:43:42,824 in damages and Ioss of earnings; 857 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,767 The terms of the contract cIearIy stipuIate 858 00:43:45,836 --> 00:43:49,465 that Watergate take up no more than 25% of the time; 859 00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:52,441 Yes, but nowhere does it say that for the rest of the 75% 860 00:43:52,510 --> 00:43:55,001 he gets to drone on and sound presidentiaI; 861 00:43:56,647 --> 00:44:00,845 ''Drone on''? Jesus Christ; Where's your respect? 862 00:44:00,918 --> 00:44:03,716 You remember who you're taIking about here; 863 00:44:03,788 --> 00:44:07,519 You know as weII as I do that 60% of what he did in office was right, 864 00:44:07,591 --> 00:44:11,459 and 30% may have been wrong, but he thought it was right at the time; 865 00:44:11,529 --> 00:44:13,463 Yes, but that stiII Ieaves 10% 866 00:44:13,531 --> 00:44:15,931 where he was doing the wrong thing and knew it; 867 00:44:17,201 --> 00:44:20,762 You goddamn media peopIe; You are so smug; 868 00:44:21,472 --> 00:44:25,033 WeII, I can guarantee you if you screw us on the 60%, 869 00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:28,636 I wiII ruin you if it takes the rest of my Iife; 870 00:44:30,982 --> 00:44:31,971 Prick; 871 00:44:51,469 --> 00:44:53,198 Look at you; Gorgeous; 872 00:44:55,606 --> 00:44:56,868 Good night, sweet princes; 873 00:44:56,941 --> 00:44:58,568 Cheerio; Bye; 874 00:44:58,642 --> 00:45:00,872 See you in the morning; 875 00:45:00,945 --> 00:45:02,173 (DOOR CLOSES) 876 00:45:03,414 --> 00:45:05,507 Why the monkey suit? 877 00:45:05,583 --> 00:45:07,551 David has a fiIm premiere he needs to attend; 878 00:45:07,618 --> 00:45:10,143 What? The night before we start taping? 879 00:45:10,221 --> 00:45:11,848 What's the movie? 880 00:45:13,424 --> 00:45:15,824 It's The SIipper and the Rose; 881 00:45:17,161 --> 00:45:18,389 The CindereIIa movie? 882 00:45:18,462 --> 00:45:20,657 Yeah; David's the executive producer; 883 00:45:21,132 --> 00:45:23,327 You don't think it might be an idea for our interviewer 884 00:45:23,401 --> 00:45:25,665 to be rested and focused on the job in hand? 885 00:45:25,736 --> 00:45:27,363 BIRT: Don't worry; 886 00:45:27,438 --> 00:45:29,872 David is a performer of the highest caIiber; 887 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:32,408 He's been in these pressure situations many times before; 888 00:45:32,476 --> 00:45:35,673 Come the hour, he'II be fine; Okay? 889 00:45:41,085 --> 00:45:42,985 What did he say? Did he say ''performer''? 890 00:45:43,054 --> 00:45:44,885 Yeah; That's the word he used? 891 00:45:44,955 --> 00:45:46,149 Yeah, he said ''performer;'' 892 00:45:46,223 --> 00:45:47,383 Not ''journaIist'' or ''interviewer''? 893 00:45:47,458 --> 00:45:50,552 No; He said ''performer;'' 894 00:45:50,628 --> 00:45:54,724 Out of curiosity, where are you at this moment? PsychicaIIy? 895 00:45:56,834 --> 00:46:01,567 I am imagining the dust, the darkness, 896 00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:05,166 the agony and the unimaginabIe IoneIiness 897 00:46:05,242 --> 00:46:08,370 of the wiIderness I am about to be dispatched to 898 00:46:08,446 --> 00:46:11,176 by my Washington poIiticaI coIIeagues; 899 00:46:14,785 --> 00:46:16,377 (CHEERING) 900 00:46:22,259 --> 00:46:25,160 So any opportunity you get, go right to foreign poIicy, go right to Mao, 901 00:46:25,229 --> 00:46:26,457 go right to Khrushchev; 902 00:46:26,530 --> 00:46:27,690 Just go right! 903 00:46:27,765 --> 00:46:29,562 KHACHIGIAN: You couId do aII day on foreign poIicy, sir; 904 00:46:29,633 --> 00:46:31,191 PRICE: I disagree that the Mao banquet story is staIe; 905 00:46:31,268 --> 00:46:32,792 Excuse me, sir; Something I think you shouId see; 906 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:33,928 GANNON: PeopIe Iove that story; 907 00:46:34,004 --> 00:46:35,028 SAWYER: Why don't we save it for the book? 908 00:46:35,106 --> 00:46:37,131 KHACHIGIAN: Yeah, right, come on; 909 00:46:39,276 --> 00:46:40,868 REPORTER 1; David; REPORTER 2; Mr; Frost; 910 00:46:40,945 --> 00:46:43,004 REPORTER 1; David, some peopIe in the media have suggested 911 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,843 that you're not the right man for the job, 912 00:46:44,915 --> 00:46:46,644 that you'II be too soft on the President; 913 00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,582 What wiII you do if he stonewaIIs you? 914 00:46:48,652 --> 00:46:50,347 FROST; WeII, I shaII say so again and again; 915 00:46:50,421 --> 00:46:52,912 But I shouId say right now that I'm not expecting 916 00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:55,857 his approach to be to stonewaII; 917 00:46:55,926 --> 00:46:59,589 I'm hoping that it'II be that of a cascade of candor; 918 00:46:59,663 --> 00:47:01,324 REPORTER 1; ''A cascade of candor''? 919 00:47:01,398 --> 00:47:03,025 From Richard Nixon? 920 00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,125 You think that's what you'II get? 921 00:47:05,202 --> 00:47:08,467 No, I just thought it was a phrase that might appeaI to you; 922 00:47:08,539 --> 00:47:10,097 REPORTER 1; So what about the money? 923 00:47:10,174 --> 00:47:11,869 That's a strange feIIow; 924 00:47:11,942 --> 00:47:13,933 Started Iife as a comic, you know; 925 00:47:14,011 --> 00:47:15,137 NIXON: Is that so? Mmm-hmm; 926 00:47:15,212 --> 00:47:17,077 AImost married Diahann CarroII; 927 00:47:17,148 --> 00:47:18,137 Who? 928 00:47:18,215 --> 00:47:19,944 GANNON: The singer; 929 00:47:21,418 --> 00:47:23,010 Isn't she bIack? 930 00:47:24,455 --> 00:47:25,786 Yes, sir; 931 00:47:26,824 --> 00:47:29,384 Right here in the Frost fiIe, which we put together 932 00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:32,088 as part of our generaI preparations; 933 00:47:32,196 --> 00:47:35,757 Okay; Let's get back to work; 934 00:47:35,866 --> 00:47:38,130 FROST; That's fact, this is fiction; 935 00:47:38,202 --> 00:47:39,931 So now it's about The SIipper and the Rose; 936 00:47:40,004 --> 00:47:41,369 It's a cracker of a movie; 937 00:47:41,438 --> 00:47:43,303 I hope you'II aII come and see it, and;;; 938 00:47:47,678 --> 00:47:49,145 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 939 00:47:50,781 --> 00:47:52,544 I shouIdn't have ordered that coffee; 940 00:47:52,616 --> 00:47:54,311 Just don't drink any more; 941 00:47:57,188 --> 00:47:58,917 (INAUDIBLE) 942 00:48:00,157 --> 00:48:01,852 Good Iuck; Thank you; 943 00:48:04,128 --> 00:48:06,119 I'II be thinking of you; 944 00:48:11,001 --> 00:48:12,525 Dick; Wait; 945 00:48:28,085 --> 00:48:30,849 FROST: For the record, I'm gonna be starting with John's idea; 946 00:48:30,921 --> 00:48:32,684 ''Why didn't you burn the tapes?'' 947 00:48:32,756 --> 00:48:33,984 No; Fuck; 948 00:48:34,058 --> 00:48:36,788 PIease, God, no! You can't; 949 00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:39,522 David, you can't do that; It wouId be a disaster; 950 00:48:39,597 --> 00:48:42,691 It wouId get us into Watergate way ahead of the agreed time; 951 00:48:42,766 --> 00:48:45,428 What is the point of having contractuaIIy set 952 00:48:45,502 --> 00:48:47,663 specific times to deaI with certain subjects 953 00:48:47,738 --> 00:48:49,399 if you're just going to ignore it right off the bat? 954 00:48:49,473 --> 00:48:50,701 'Cause it's war, isn't it? GIoves off; 955 00:48:50,774 --> 00:48:51,968 I Iike it; It's baIIsy; 956 00:48:52,042 --> 00:48:53,270 StrategicaIIy, it'II give us the upper hand; 957 00:48:53,344 --> 00:48:55,403 It's insaneIy risky; 958 00:48:55,479 --> 00:48:56,912 He couId waIk right off the set, 959 00:48:56,981 --> 00:48:58,346 and there's nothing we couId do about it; 960 00:48:58,415 --> 00:49:00,212 Worse, he couId sue you! 961 00:49:00,284 --> 00:49:02,946 We were sadIy unabIe to do the taping at Casa Pacifica 962 00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:05,318 because of the Coast Guard radio interference, 963 00:49:05,389 --> 00:49:08,415 so we ended up at the rather more modest Smith house, 964 00:49:08,492 --> 00:49:10,983 which was owned by a IocaI RepubIican businessman; 965 00:49:11,061 --> 00:49:12,050 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 966 00:49:12,162 --> 00:49:13,686 PHOTOGRAPHER: Right here! 967 00:49:13,764 --> 00:49:14,992 Mr; Frost, Iook over here; 968 00:49:15,065 --> 00:49:16,293 Over here, sir! 969 00:49:16,367 --> 00:49:17,561 Here we go; OFFICER: Back up behind the curb; 970 00:49:17,635 --> 00:49:18,761 REPORTER 1 : A few questions, pIease; 971 00:49:18,836 --> 00:49:19,928 PHOTOGRAPHER: Right here, Mr; Frost; 972 00:49:20,004 --> 00:49:22,302 REPORTER 2: David! David! David! 973 00:49:22,773 --> 00:49:24,832 (ALL CLAMORING) 974 00:49:27,678 --> 00:49:29,145 FROST: WeII, heIIo there; 975 00:49:30,581 --> 00:49:31,946 (SIREN BLARING) 976 00:49:33,284 --> 00:49:34,683 Excuse me, feIIas; 977 00:49:50,467 --> 00:49:53,027 MAN: Nixon, there's bIood on your hands! 978 00:49:53,404 --> 00:49:54,564 WOMAN: Liar! 979 00:50:04,014 --> 00:50:06,039 MAN: Here comes the President! 980 00:50:06,116 --> 00:50:07,447 REPORTER 1 : Mr; President! 981 00:50:07,518 --> 00:50:09,247 REPORTER 2: Mr; President! 982 00:50:10,287 --> 00:50:12,380 REPORTER 3: How are you feeIing, Mr; President? 983 00:50:12,523 --> 00:50:14,184 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 984 00:50:14,491 --> 00:50:16,959 The Smith famiIy requested that the furniture be put back in pIace; 985 00:50:17,027 --> 00:50:18,654 They taIked to you about that, too? 986 00:50:18,729 --> 00:50:20,492 They're bugging everybody; 987 00:50:25,502 --> 00:50:27,299 RESTON: You know, I've written four books about him, 988 00:50:27,371 --> 00:50:30,033 but this is the first time I've actuaIIy seen him in the fIesh; 989 00:50:30,107 --> 00:50:33,201 He's taIIer than I imagined, and tanned; 990 00:50:33,310 --> 00:50:35,574 The Ieast he couId do is Iook ravaged; 991 00:50:38,115 --> 00:50:39,275 You gonna shake his hand? 992 00:50:39,350 --> 00:50:40,544 Am I gonna shake;;; 993 00:50:40,617 --> 00:50:41,914 Are you kidding me? 994 00:50:41,985 --> 00:50:43,646 After everything that prick's done to this country? 995 00:50:43,721 --> 00:50:45,018 I'm not gonna shake his hand; 996 00:50:45,089 --> 00:50:46,613 GentIemen; 997 00:50:46,957 --> 00:50:50,984 May I present Bob ZeInick, my executive editor? 998 00:50:51,061 --> 00:50:52,392 How do you do? 999 00:50:52,463 --> 00:50:53,760 PIeasure, Mr; President; 1000 00:50:53,831 --> 00:50:56,664 FROST: And Jim Reston, one of my researchers; 1001 00:50:56,734 --> 00:50:58,964 PIeasure to meet you, Mr; Reston; 1002 00:51:02,306 --> 00:51:03,796 Mr; President; 1003 00:51:03,874 --> 00:51:06,536 Excuse me, sir? Got a room for you right here; 1004 00:51:10,981 --> 00:51:14,246 Wow; That was devastating, withering; 1005 00:51:14,318 --> 00:51:15,785 I mean, I don't think he's ever gonna get over that; 1006 00:51:15,853 --> 00:51:17,081 Yeah, fuck off; 1007 00:51:17,154 --> 00:51:18,587 (CHUCKLES) 1008 00:51:18,655 --> 00:51:21,453 I got you guys set up back here; 1009 00:51:21,525 --> 00:51:25,461 Now this is your green room; 1010 00:51:25,529 --> 00:51:28,020 And the President wiII be on the Iarge monitor; 1011 00:51:28,098 --> 00:51:29,793 Craft services is that way; 1012 00:51:38,609 --> 00:51:40,042 Keep it about that temperature, okay? 1013 00:51:40,110 --> 00:51:41,099 Mr; President? 1014 00:51:41,178 --> 00:51:42,202 Yeah; 1015 00:51:42,279 --> 00:51:43,644 Before we start, I just want to say 1016 00:51:43,714 --> 00:51:46,808 how deIighted we aII are by Mrs; Nixon's recovery; 1017 00:51:46,884 --> 00:51:48,784 WeII, thank you; It's true; 1018 00:51:48,852 --> 00:51:50,843 She's much better now; 1019 00:51:50,921 --> 00:51:55,449 She's just getting round to the business of repIying to aII the cards; 1020 00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:58,751 And from our point of view, weII, 1021 00:51:58,829 --> 00:52:01,491 I'd just Iike to say how pIeased we are 1022 00:52:01,565 --> 00:52:02,998 that you got this aII together; 1023 00:52:03,066 --> 00:52:04,124 Thank you; 1024 00:52:04,201 --> 00:52:07,329 As I understand it, it's been quite a struggIe; 1025 00:52:07,404 --> 00:52:08,462 WeII;;; 1026 00:52:08,539 --> 00:52:10,734 How much has it cost? 1027 00:52:10,808 --> 00:52:14,141 You mind me asking? Hey, come on; 1028 00:52:14,211 --> 00:52:16,805 Come on, it's just between us; 1029 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,781 Very weII; Two miIIion; 1030 00:52:19,850 --> 00:52:23,445 Two miIIion? Jeez; I didn't reaIize we were making Ben-Hur; 1031 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,782 (LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY) 1032 00:52:26,089 --> 00:52:28,785 But teII me something; 1033 00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:31,157 You raised it aII now? 1034 00:52:32,362 --> 00:52:33,454 (HESITATES) 1035 00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:36,294 Not quite; But we're getting there; 1036 00:52:36,366 --> 00:52:38,857 Everyone's been kind and deferred fees; 1037 00:52:39,269 --> 00:52:41,965 WeII, not quite everyone; 1038 00:52:43,273 --> 00:52:44,797 David, I'm gonna go in with you on camera; 1039 00:52:44,875 --> 00:52:46,570 Excuse me; 1040 00:52:46,643 --> 00:52:48,804 I want to put a handkerchief here, if I may; 1041 00:52:48,879 --> 00:52:50,710 Is that out of shot? 1042 00:52:50,781 --> 00:52:52,544 That's fine, Mr; President; 1043 00:52:52,616 --> 00:52:54,880 ContractuaIIy, I think that we made 1044 00:52:54,952 --> 00:52:58,251 an agreement that after each question 1045 00:52:58,322 --> 00:53:00,882 I might dab my upper Iip before answering it; 1046 00:53:00,958 --> 00:53:03,927 Which you won't show, you know, when you cut it together; 1047 00:53:03,994 --> 00:53:07,486 You're probabIy aware of my history with perspiration; 1048 00:53:07,564 --> 00:53:10,829 If you're referring to your TV debate with Jack Kennedy in 1960; 1049 00:53:10,901 --> 00:53:15,668 They say that moisture on my upper Iip cost me the presidency; 1050 00:53:15,739 --> 00:53:19,869 PeopIe who heard it on the radio, weII, they thought I'd won; 1051 00:53:19,943 --> 00:53:22,434 But teIevision and the cIose-up, 1052 00:53:22,513 --> 00:53:24,981 they create their own sets of meanings; 1053 00:53:25,048 --> 00:53:28,245 So now they insist I bring a handkerchief 1054 00:53:28,318 --> 00:53:30,445 and that I have my eyebrows trimmed; 1055 00:53:30,521 --> 00:53:32,250 Sixty seconds, everyone; 1056 00:53:33,357 --> 00:53:35,416 You trim yours? No; 1057 00:53:35,492 --> 00:53:37,255 No, of course not; 1058 00:53:37,327 --> 00:53:39,795 Yeah, you're Iight-skinned; Yeah; 1059 00:53:39,863 --> 00:53:43,697 You got bIue eyes; You've got no troubIes with perspiration, I imagine; 1060 00:53:43,767 --> 00:53:45,735 No, not that I'm aware; 1061 00:53:45,802 --> 00:53:48,236 You were obviousIy born to be on the tube; 1062 00:53:50,107 --> 00:53:52,541 DAVIS: Stand by to roII tape in 30 seconds; 1063 00:53:53,110 --> 00:53:54,702 SettIing; 1064 00:54:00,117 --> 00:54:02,017 Those shoes; 1065 00:54:03,587 --> 00:54:05,487 They're ItaIian, aren't they? 1066 00:54:05,722 --> 00:54:07,417 My shoes? I beIieve so; 1067 00:54:08,125 --> 00:54:10,150 Yeah, that's interesting; 1068 00:54:11,094 --> 00:54:12,584 (SNIFFLES) 1069 00:54:14,364 --> 00:54:16,594 You don't find them too effeminate? 1070 00:54:19,303 --> 00:54:20,770 No; 1071 00:54:20,837 --> 00:54:22,668 WeII, I guess somebody in your fieId 1072 00:54:22,739 --> 00:54:24,570 can get away with them, you know; 1073 00:54:24,641 --> 00:54:26,233 ManoIo, just check my coIIar, wiII you? 1074 00:54:26,310 --> 00:54:27,971 DIRECTOR: David, starting with camera two, 1075 00:54:30,914 --> 00:54:34,441 in four, three, two; Cue David; And;;; 1076 00:54:36,687 --> 00:54:41,283 Mr; President; Now, we're going to be covering a Iot of subjects 1077 00:54:41,358 --> 00:54:44,759 in a great deaI of detaiI over the course of these interviews, 1078 00:54:44,828 --> 00:54:48,730 but I'd Iike to begin compIeteIy out of context 1079 00:54:48,799 --> 00:54:50,426 by asking you one question, 1080 00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,435 more than any other, aImost every American 1081 00:54:53,503 --> 00:54:56,666 and peopIe aII over the worId want me to ask; 1082 00:54:58,775 --> 00:55:00,640 Why didn't you burn the tapes? 1083 00:55:03,847 --> 00:55:05,678 Son of a bitch! 1084 00:55:08,485 --> 00:55:14,446 WeII, Mr; Frost, I'm surprised by your question 1085 00:55:14,725 --> 00:55:19,628 since we have an agreement, a contractuaI agreement, I beIieve, 1086 00:55:19,696 --> 00:55:23,928 that we wouId cover Watergate in our Iast taping session; 1087 00:55:33,243 --> 00:55:37,737 But if your viewers reaIIy do have a major concern, 1088 00:55:37,814 --> 00:55:42,842 then perhaps I shouId briefIy respond to it now; 1089 00:55:42,919 --> 00:55:46,047 What probabIy very few peopIe reaIize 1090 00:55:46,123 --> 00:55:48,353 is that the taping system in the White House 1091 00:55:48,425 --> 00:55:51,690 was set up by my predecessor, President Johnson, 1092 00:55:51,762 --> 00:55:55,892 partIy to avoid the necessity of having a secretary in every meeting, 1093 00:55:55,966 --> 00:55:58,491 and partIy to ensure there was 1094 00:55:58,568 --> 00:56:01,059 a record kept of every verbaI agreement, 1095 00:56:01,138 --> 00:56:04,107 no matter how off the cuff or casuaI; 1096 00:56:04,775 --> 00:56:07,369 Now, initiaIIy, on coming into the White House, 1097 00:56:07,444 --> 00:56:10,277 I insisted on dismantIing the system; 1098 00:56:10,347 --> 00:56:13,646 I hadn't Iiked the idea at aII, but the former President, 1099 00:56:13,717 --> 00:56:15,981 President Johnson, had repeatedIy said 1100 00:56:16,053 --> 00:56:19,318 how crazy it wouId be to remove the system, 1101 00:56:19,389 --> 00:56:20,981 which he feIt was the best way;;; 1102 00:56:21,058 --> 00:56:23,322 BRENNAN; WeII, in boxing, you know, there's aIways that first moment, 1103 00:56:23,393 --> 00:56:25,520 and you see it in the chaIIenger's face; 1104 00:56:25,595 --> 00:56:27,722 It's that moment that he feeIs 1105 00:56:27,798 --> 00:56:30,130 the impact from the champ's first jab; 1106 00:56:30,467 --> 00:56:34,233 It's kind of a sickening moment, when he reaIizes that 1107 00:56:34,304 --> 00:56:37,603 aII those months of pep taIks and the hype, 1108 00:56:37,674 --> 00:56:40,837 the psyching yourseIf up, had been deIusionaI aII aIong; 1109 00:56:40,911 --> 00:56:42,879 You couId see it in Frost's face; 1110 00:56:42,946 --> 00:56:45,141 If he didn't know the caIiber of the man 1111 00:56:45,215 --> 00:56:47,342 that he was up against before the interview started, 1112 00:56:47,417 --> 00:56:49,908 he certainIy knew it haIfway through the President's first answer; 1113 00:56:49,986 --> 00:56:52,853 NIXON: You see, since the best advice is 1114 00:56:52,923 --> 00:56:56,518 aImost aIways of the confidentiaI variety, 1115 00:56:56,593 --> 00:56:58,754 now the tapes have been made pubIic, 1116 00:56:58,829 --> 00:57:01,320 peopIe are unIikeIy ever to feeI comfortabIe 1117 00:57:01,398 --> 00:57:03,958 speaking in confidence at the White House; 1118 00:57:04,034 --> 00:57:07,868 They're Iess IikeIy to offer that advice; So in the end, 1119 00:57:07,938 --> 00:57:10,168 it's the whoIe poIiticaI system and, 1120 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,175 by impIication, it's the country that suffers; 1121 00:57:13,243 --> 00:57:15,268 So much for our ''baIIsy'' opening; 1122 00:57:18,148 --> 00:57:21,242 So when did you actuaIIy decide;;; 1123 00:57:21,318 --> 00:57:24,253 At what moment did you know you were going to resign? 1124 00:57:24,321 --> 00:57:26,289 That's good; That's good; 1125 00:57:27,491 --> 00:57:31,587 I remember exactIy; It was JuIy 23; 1126 00:57:31,661 --> 00:57:34,494 After it was cIear the Southern Democrats 1127 00:57:34,564 --> 00:57:36,054 that were stiII against impeachment had 1128 00:57:36,133 --> 00:57:39,193 had the screws put on them by the Speaker of the House; 1129 00:57:40,003 --> 00:57:46,636 That night I said to AI Haig, ''WeII, that's it; There goes the presidency;'' 1130 00:57:47,043 --> 00:57:48,635 And, of course, you know, being AI, 1131 00:57:48,712 --> 00:57:50,270 he tried to taIk me out of it; 1132 00:57:50,347 --> 00:57:53,111 And Vice President Ford, I mean, Iet's not forget 1133 00:57:53,183 --> 00:57:56,778 he had the most to gain personaIIy from my stepping down, 1134 00:57:56,853 --> 00:57:58,684 he was stiII absoIuteIy convinced that 1135 00:57:58,755 --> 00:58:00,552 we were gonna win the impeachment vote, 1136 00:58:00,624 --> 00:58:02,387 and comfortabIy; John, we have to do something; 1137 00:58:02,459 --> 00:58:03,448 We have to move this aIong; 1138 00:58:03,527 --> 00:58:05,222 This is desperate, John; Do something; 1139 00:58:05,295 --> 00:58:07,695 Twenty-three minutes on one question? 1140 00:58:07,764 --> 00:58:08,822 Okay, Iet's take a break; 1141 00:58:08,899 --> 00:58:10,264 Let's change the tapes; Come on, man; 1142 00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:11,527 Stop tape; 1143 00:58:13,103 --> 00:58:14,365 DIRECTOR: I'm sorry, gentIemen; 1144 00:58:14,437 --> 00:58:16,098 We have to take a break; Tape change; 1145 00:58:16,173 --> 00:58:18,971 Oh; Okay, how's that? You getting what you need? 1146 00:58:19,042 --> 00:58:20,304 It's fantastic; 1147 00:58:20,377 --> 00:58:21,969 Good; Good; Thank you; 1148 00:58:23,547 --> 00:58:24,707 Excuse me; One moment, sir; 1149 00:58:24,781 --> 00:58:26,874 NIXON: Yeah, sure; Take your time; 1150 00:58:27,250 --> 00:58:29,218 What are you doing, David? You've got to stop him rambIing; 1151 00:58:29,286 --> 00:58:31,481 It's aII right; These are just introductory exchanges; 1152 00:58:31,555 --> 00:58:33,022 But this session onIy Iasts two hours; 1153 00:58:33,089 --> 00:58:35,785 NearIy haIf of it's gone, and we're wasting vaIuabIe materiaI, okay? 1154 00:58:35,859 --> 00:58:38,123 The moment that he made the decision to resign, 1155 00:58:38,195 --> 00:58:39,492 we shouId be scoring points with that stuff; 1156 00:58:39,563 --> 00:58:40,723 Want me to switch to Vietnam? 1157 00:58:40,797 --> 00:58:42,287 No; No; We've got to get something 1158 00:58:42,365 --> 00:58:44,094 out of that resignation night; AII right? 1159 00:58:44,167 --> 00:58:47,728 That was Nixon at his Iowest point, a totaI wreck; On his knees? 1160 00:58:47,804 --> 00:58:50,295 Praying with Kissinger? Come on, you can naiI him with that stuff; 1161 00:58:50,373 --> 00:58:51,738 Listen, was that okay? 1162 00:58:51,808 --> 00:58:53,105 Perfect, sir; 1163 00:58:53,176 --> 00:58:55,838 It didn't sound too arrogant or seIf-serving? 1164 00:58:55,912 --> 00:58:59,404 Not at aII; You sounded controIIed, even-handed, statesmanIike; 1165 00:58:59,482 --> 00:59:00,676 Good; 1166 00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:01,910 Now continue exactIy the same way; 1167 00:59:01,985 --> 00:59:03,885 Long answers; ControI the space; 1168 00:59:03,954 --> 00:59:04,943 Don't Iet him in; 1169 00:59:05,021 --> 00:59:06,283 Okay, got you; 1170 00:59:09,526 --> 00:59:11,551 DAVIS: Set; And roII; 1171 00:59:16,399 --> 00:59:21,462 We're coming back on camera three in four, three, two and;;; 1172 00:59:23,907 --> 00:59:27,968 Reading the account of those extraordinary finaI days, 1173 00:59:28,044 --> 00:59:30,512 it seems your most emotionaI moment came 1174 00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:33,913 in that heart-to-heart you had with Henry Kissinger; 1175 00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:37,613 Was that perhaps the most emotionaI moment of your career? 1176 00:59:38,088 --> 00:59:39,680 RESTON: Good, good; NIXON; Yes; 1177 00:59:40,423 --> 00:59:45,725 I wouId say it was about as emotionaI a moment as I've ever had; 1178 00:59:47,898 --> 00:59:50,025 Except, weII, you know, it's hard to say 1179 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,193 what is the most emotionaI moment, 1180 00:59:52,269 --> 00:59:54,863 because each is different; 1181 00:59:55,305 --> 00:59:58,399 I remember the day Eisenhower died; 1182 00:59:58,475 --> 00:59:59,772 For God's sake; 1183 00:59:59,843 --> 01:00:04,109 And the day I waIked my eIdest daughter Tricia down the aisIe; 1184 01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:06,876 And the day during the impeachment hearings 1185 01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:10,579 when JuIie, that's my youngest, she came into my office, 1186 01:00:10,654 --> 01:00:15,148 she threw her arms around me, she kissed me; She cried, you know? 1187 01:00:15,225 --> 01:00:18,126 And she so seIdom cries; 1188 01:00:18,328 --> 01:00:20,660 She said, ''Daddy, you're the finest man I know; '' 1189 01:00:20,730 --> 01:00:22,721 ''Daddy, you're the finest man I know''? 1190 01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:26,691 ''And whatever you do, I wiII support you; 1191 01:00:27,771 --> 01:00:32,105 ''You just gotta go through the fire, you know, a IittIe Ionger;'' 1192 01:00:34,477 --> 01:00:36,240 This is beautifuI; 1193 01:00:36,313 --> 01:00:39,476 So Kissinger and I were in the LincoIn Sitting Room, 1194 01:00:39,549 --> 01:00:42,541 and together we began to reminisce 1195 01:00:42,619 --> 01:00:46,453 about some of the great decisions that we'd participated in; 1196 01:00:46,523 --> 01:00:49,720 There was China, the Soviet Union, 1197 01:00:49,793 --> 01:00:52,318 the peace settIement in Vietnam; 1198 01:00:52,395 --> 01:00:56,422 Now, Iet me teII you something that I never toId anybody; 1199 01:00:56,499 --> 01:01:00,936 Whenever I have had a reaIIy tough decision to make;;; 1200 01:01:01,271 --> 01:01:04,035 Now, we were in the LincoIn Sitting Room at that time; 1201 01:01:04,107 --> 01:01:07,804 I have come into this room for the purpose of praying; 1202 01:01:08,845 --> 01:01:12,713 ''Now, Henry, I'm a Quaker; You're a Jew; 1203 01:01:12,782 --> 01:01:14,750 ''Neither of us is particuIarIy orthodox, 1204 01:01:14,818 --> 01:01:17,844 ''but I'd Iike to think that each of us in our own way 1205 01:01:17,921 --> 01:01:20,913 ''has a deep reIigious sensitivity; 1206 01:01:20,991 --> 01:01:26,088 ''So if you don't mind, couId we just have a moment of siIent prayer?'' 1207 01:01:26,162 --> 01:01:30,394 So we kneIt down; Now, this was in front of that tabIe where 1208 01:01:30,467 --> 01:01:34,631 LincoIn signed the Emancipation ProcIamation; 1209 01:01:34,704 --> 01:01:38,140 And then after a few moments, we both got up again, and Henry says;;; 1210 01:01:38,241 --> 01:01:39,799 Is there;;; I'm sorry; 1211 01:01:39,943 --> 01:01:41,103 Is there a probIem? 1212 01:01:41,177 --> 01:01:42,201 That's time; 1213 01:01:42,779 --> 01:01:44,906 We're over two hours; 1214 01:01:44,981 --> 01:01:47,074 ReaIIy? So soon? 1215 01:01:47,784 --> 01:01:50,753 WeII, Mr; President, I gather our time is up; 1216 01:01:50,954 --> 01:01:52,751 Gee, now, that's a pity; 1217 01:01:52,822 --> 01:01:55,313 You know, I was beginning to enjoy that; 1218 01:01:59,295 --> 01:02:01,661 That was terrific, both of you; 1219 01:02:01,731 --> 01:02:03,096 We're getting some great materiaI; 1220 01:02:03,166 --> 01:02:04,531 You know, it's so funny, too, 1221 01:02:04,601 --> 01:02:08,037 because I was expecting questions on Vietnam; 1222 01:02:08,104 --> 01:02:10,595 And we prepared for that, hadn't we, Jack? 1223 01:02:10,673 --> 01:02:12,072 Yes, so did I; 1224 01:02:12,142 --> 01:02:15,270 I guess we just got caught up, you know, reminiscing; 1225 01:02:15,345 --> 01:02:16,369 Indeed; 1226 01:02:16,446 --> 01:02:18,710 So, day after tomorrow, 10:00, right? 1227 01:02:18,782 --> 01:02:19,874 Yes, indeed; 1228 01:02:19,949 --> 01:02:21,644 I Iook forward to it; Bye-bye; 1229 01:02:29,125 --> 01:02:31,184 There's no need to say anything; 1230 01:02:37,767 --> 01:02:39,894 REPORTER 1 : Mr; President! REPORTER 2: Mr; President! 1231 01:02:40,136 --> 01:02:42,104 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 1232 01:02:42,972 --> 01:02:44,234 REPORTER 3: Mr; President! 1233 01:02:44,307 --> 01:02:45,638 REPORTER 4: Mr; President, pIease! 1234 01:02:46,643 --> 01:02:47,871 (WHISPERING) What are you gonna teII him? 1235 01:02:47,944 --> 01:02:49,639 I'm gonna teII him he's gotta get invoIved; 1236 01:02:49,712 --> 01:02:51,543 He's gotta be abIe to shut him up; Shh; 1237 01:02:51,614 --> 01:02:54,640 David, we have some fundamentaI probIems in our approach that I think;;; 1238 01:02:54,717 --> 01:02:56,116 Don't worry, Bob; I'm on it; 1239 01:02:56,186 --> 01:02:57,210 We can use some of the Kissinger stuff; 1240 01:02:57,287 --> 01:02:59,016 Yeah, but we need to discuss it sooner rather than Iater;;; 1241 01:02:59,089 --> 01:03:00,454 Look, I'm disappointed, too; 1242 01:03:00,523 --> 01:03:03,253 But I wonder, couId we possibIy spare the post-mortem for now? 1243 01:03:03,326 --> 01:03:05,385 I don't mean to minimize it; It's just I've got to get back to LA 1244 01:03:05,462 --> 01:03:06,861 to meet some peopIe from Weed Eater; 1245 01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:08,761 Thanks, everyone! Great work! 1246 01:03:08,832 --> 01:03:11,027 Marv, LIoyd, great day; Bye, David; 1247 01:03:11,101 --> 01:03:13,968 I'II see you soon; God bIess! 1248 01:03:17,006 --> 01:03:19,406 What the heII is Weed Eater? 1249 01:03:19,709 --> 01:03:21,939 It's a horticuIturaI mechanism; 1250 01:03:22,011 --> 01:03:23,035 One of our sponsors; 1251 01:03:23,113 --> 01:03:24,478 What happened to Xerox? 1252 01:03:24,547 --> 01:03:26,811 What about GeneraI Motors or IBM? 1253 01:03:26,883 --> 01:03:29,943 I gather that not aII of the bIue-chip accounts came through; 1254 01:03:30,019 --> 01:03:32,214 We do have AIpo; 1255 01:03:32,288 --> 01:03:33,687 Dog food? 1256 01:03:33,756 --> 01:03:36,122 (STUTTERING) Wait, John; We're aIready taping; 1257 01:03:36,626 --> 01:03:38,321 So we're cIose, right? We're very cIose? 1258 01:03:38,394 --> 01:03:39,827 That's probabIy a question you shouId ask David; 1259 01:03:39,896 --> 01:03:41,761 Are we cIose, John? 1260 01:03:44,667 --> 01:03:46,760 I beIieve we're at 30%; 1261 01:03:47,537 --> 01:03:49,027 To go? Or 30% soId? 1262 01:03:49,105 --> 01:03:51,801 Again, that's probabIy a question you shouId;;; 1263 01:03:52,876 --> 01:03:54,468 SoId, 30% soId; 1264 01:03:55,178 --> 01:03:56,702 Jesus;;; 1265 01:03:56,846 --> 01:03:58,404 I thought we were practicaIIy fuIIy financed; 1266 01:03:58,481 --> 01:04:01,609 We were; But the financing was aIways conditionaI on advertising saIes, 1267 01:04:01,684 --> 01:04:03,379 and no one predicted that they'd faII apart Iike this; 1268 01:04:03,453 --> 01:04:05,353 WeII, why have they faIIen apart? Based on what? 1269 01:04:05,421 --> 01:04:08,219 CredibiIity of the project; What eIse are advertising saIes based on? 1270 01:04:08,291 --> 01:04:10,452 Listen, I understand your concern; 1271 01:04:10,527 --> 01:04:13,724 But couId I ask you to go a IittIe easier on David over the next coupIe of days, 1272 01:04:13,796 --> 01:04:16,264 bearing in mind the extraordinary pressure that he's under? 1273 01:04:16,332 --> 01:04:19,824 'Cause at the moment, he's effectiveIy paying for aII this himseIf; 1274 01:04:19,903 --> 01:04:23,566 So he's in it for a Iot more than just his reputation; 1275 01:04:23,907 --> 01:04:25,204 And we're not? 1276 01:04:32,282 --> 01:04:35,877 FROST; You seemed very confident Iast time; 1277 01:04:35,952 --> 01:04:38,887 I don't understand; Why this sudden change of heart? 1278 01:04:38,955 --> 01:04:41,515 AII right, this is just madness; It's Richard Nixon; 1279 01:04:41,591 --> 01:04:45,823 These interviews wiII do mid-30s audience share, minimum; 1280 01:04:45,895 --> 01:04:52,528 Jimmy! Yes; Yes, back again, Iike the proverbiaI bad penny; 1281 01:04:52,602 --> 01:04:54,160 Look, I hate to do this to a friend, 1282 01:04:54,237 --> 01:04:57,468 and I know you're aIready in for more than I asked for, 1283 01:04:57,540 --> 01:05:00,976 but I need you to dig a IittIe deeper; 1284 01:05:02,512 --> 01:05:04,673 I'm right up against it now; 1285 01:05:08,251 --> 01:05:11,448 So, I had a chance to review yesterday's tapes; 1286 01:05:11,521 --> 01:05:12,749 And? 1287 01:05:12,822 --> 01:05:16,849 HonestIy? Far too soft, David; 1288 01:05:16,926 --> 01:05:19,019 Go on; Beat me, John; Beat me with a stick; 1289 01:05:19,095 --> 01:05:22,087 Look; No, I'm serious; 1290 01:05:22,165 --> 01:05:24,565 You have got to make it more uncomfortabIe for him; 1291 01:05:24,634 --> 01:05:27,364 You can start by sitting forward; You've gotta attack more; 1292 01:05:27,437 --> 01:05:29,029 If he starts taiIing off, bang, 1293 01:05:29,105 --> 01:05:30,504 jump in with another question; 1294 01:05:30,573 --> 01:05:32,598 Don't trade generaIizations; 1295 01:05:32,675 --> 01:05:33,699 Be specific; 1296 01:05:33,776 --> 01:05:36,870 And above aII, don't Iet him give these seIf-serving, 23-minute homiIies; 1297 01:05:36,946 --> 01:05:37,970 Right; And keep your distance 1298 01:05:38,047 --> 01:05:39,309 before the tape starts running; 1299 01:05:39,382 --> 01:05:40,679 He was toying with you yesterday; 1300 01:05:40,750 --> 01:05:43,014 AII that shit about Ben-Hur and struggIing to raise the money; 1301 01:05:43,086 --> 01:05:47,147 Those are mind games; Don't engage; 1302 01:05:47,223 --> 01:05:50,681 Never forget, you are in there with a major operator; 1303 01:05:51,928 --> 01:05:53,327 Got it; 1304 01:05:58,534 --> 01:05:59,933 (NIXON CLEARS THROAT) 1305 01:06:00,603 --> 01:06:01,627 Ah; 1306 01:06:02,472 --> 01:06:04,406 The Grand Inquisitor! 1307 01:06:05,575 --> 01:06:08,009 No, just your friendIy neighborhood confidant; 1308 01:06:09,112 --> 01:06:10,238 (GLASS SMASHING) 1309 01:06:12,882 --> 01:06:14,975 It's okay; We just bIew a buIb; 1310 01:06:15,752 --> 01:06:18,243 NIXON: This is why I got aII these Secret Service guys around; 1311 01:06:18,321 --> 01:06:19,686 There's nothing to worry about; 1312 01:06:19,756 --> 01:06:23,123 As a president, you get used to this kind of stuff; 1313 01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:26,785 DAVIS: Ed, we gotta get in here and change out this 750, ASAP; 1314 01:06:32,235 --> 01:06:33,896 (WHISPERING) Focus, sir; Yeah; 1315 01:06:36,472 --> 01:06:40,101 Okay, we are back; Okay, take it on my count; 1316 01:06:40,943 --> 01:06:43,878 Okay, stand by to roII tape; 30 seconds; 1317 01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:45,408 DAVIS: SettIing; 1318 01:06:45,481 --> 01:06:47,142 You have a pIeasant evening Iast night? 1319 01:06:47,216 --> 01:06:48,808 Yes, thank you; 1320 01:06:56,959 --> 01:06:59,257 Did you do any fornicating? 1321 01:06:59,529 --> 01:07:02,555 David, we're starting with camera two in four, 1322 01:07:02,632 --> 01:07:03,621 (CLEARS THROAT) 1323 01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:05,895 three, two and;;; 1324 01:07:10,506 --> 01:07:13,737 Mr; President, you came to office promising peace, 1325 01:07:13,810 --> 01:07:15,801 but no sooner did you get into the White House 1326 01:07:15,878 --> 01:07:20,315 than US invoIvement in Vietnam deepened and the war was proIonged 1327 01:07:20,383 --> 01:07:21,975 with caIamitous consequences; 1328 01:07:22,051 --> 01:07:25,509 Did you feeI that you'd betrayed the peopIe that had eIected you? 1329 01:07:25,588 --> 01:07:29,354 WeII, Vietnam was not my war; 1330 01:07:29,425 --> 01:07:31,086 It was my inheritance; 1331 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,025 And it Iooked to me;;; Jump in; 1332 01:07:33,096 --> 01:07:36,122 ;;;as if the reason for our being there 1333 01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:40,898 had perhaps not been adequateIy understood by the American peopIe; 1334 01:07:41,304 --> 01:07:43,329 It seemed to me they hadn't reaIized 1335 01:07:43,406 --> 01:07:48,605 how important a test this was of American credibiIity; 1336 01:07:49,312 --> 01:07:51,337 The whoIe worId was watching to see 1337 01:07:51,414 --> 01:07:54,440 if we have the character to see it through; 1338 01:07:54,517 --> 01:07:57,281 Now, Iook, I couId have bugged out; I couId have; 1339 01:07:57,353 --> 01:08:00,015 I couId have bIamed it on my predecessors; 1340 01:08:00,089 --> 01:08:02,580 I couId have puIIed the troops out of Vietnam earIy, 1341 01:08:02,658 --> 01:08:04,990 and very possibIy, I wouId have won 1342 01:08:05,061 --> 01:08:08,292 some Scandinavian peace prize into the bargain; 1343 01:08:08,364 --> 01:08:10,025 But I beIieved in the cause; 1344 01:08:10,099 --> 01:08:15,435 And sometimes, you know, what you beIieve in, it's the harder path; 1345 01:08:15,505 --> 01:08:20,340 You might even say that I was the Iast casuaIty of the Vietnam War; 1346 01:08:20,410 --> 01:08:23,174 Yeah, teII that to the parapIegics; 1347 01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:24,610 Come on, David, Cambodia; 1348 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,843 And Cambodia? An invasion which everybody advised you against; 1349 01:08:27,917 --> 01:08:30,943 AII the CIA and Pentagon inteIIigence suggested it wouId faiI; 1350 01:08:31,020 --> 01:08:32,112 So why did you do it? 1351 01:08:32,188 --> 01:08:33,246 WeII, first of aII, 1352 01:08:33,322 --> 01:08:39,750 as a resuIt of our incursion into Cambodia, we picked up 22,000 rifIes, 1353 01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:44,323 15 miIIion rounds of ammunition, 150,000 rockets, mortars; 1354 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,630 That's aII beIonging to the North Vietnamese, 1355 01:08:46,702 --> 01:08:49,728 which wouId onIy otherwise have been directed 1356 01:08:49,806 --> 01:08:51,933 right onto American soIdiers; 1357 01:08:52,008 --> 01:08:55,273 But one of the principaI justifications you gave for the incursion 1358 01:08:55,344 --> 01:08:57,005 was the supposed existence of 1359 01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:01,982 the ''headquarters of the entire Communist miIitary operation in South Vietnam,'' 1360 01:09:02,051 --> 01:09:05,817 a sort of ''bamboo Pentagon'' which proved not to exist at aII; 1361 01:09:05,888 --> 01:09:07,549 No, no; Wait a minute there; No, I was;;; And by sending;;; 1362 01:09:07,623 --> 01:09:10,854 And by sending B-52s to carpet bomb a country, 1363 01:09:10,927 --> 01:09:13,487 wiping out whoIe civiIian areas, 1364 01:09:13,563 --> 01:09:16,589 you end up radicaIizing a once moderate peopIe, 1365 01:09:16,666 --> 01:09:19,260 uniting them in anti-American sentiment 1366 01:09:19,402 --> 01:09:21,996 and creating a monster in the Khmer Rouge 1367 01:09:22,071 --> 01:09:23,402 that wouId Iead to civiI war;;; 1368 01:09:23,473 --> 01:09:25,134 AII right! ;;;and genocide; 1369 01:09:25,274 --> 01:09:26,741 Yes, good, good, good; There it is; 1370 01:09:26,809 --> 01:09:27,969 Okay, run VT; 1371 01:09:28,044 --> 01:09:29,033 RoII tape; 1372 01:10:25,668 --> 01:10:26,896 WeII, sir, I'm sure you'd agree, 1373 01:10:26,969 --> 01:10:29,028 some pretty stirring images there; 1374 01:10:29,105 --> 01:10:34,873 Look, it was never US poIicy to kiII civiIians; That's the enemy's way; 1375 01:10:34,944 --> 01:10:35,933 WeII, I'm not suggesting;;; 1376 01:10:36,012 --> 01:10:37,070 And if you're asking the question 1377 01:10:37,146 --> 01:10:41,242 do I regret the casuaIties on both sides in the war, yeah, sure, of course I do; 1378 01:10:41,317 --> 01:10:43,376 Let me teII you something; It can just wear you down; 1379 01:10:43,452 --> 01:10:45,386 WeII, aII right, sir, when you are faced with someone who;;; 1380 01:10:45,454 --> 01:10:47,513 But whenever I have had my doubts, 1381 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:49,717 I remembered the construction worker in PhiIadeIphia, 1382 01:10:49,792 --> 01:10:51,020 because he came up to me 1383 01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:54,654 and he said, ''Sir, I got onIy one criticism of that Cambodia thing; 1384 01:10:54,730 --> 01:10:56,459 ''If you'd gone in earIier, 1385 01:10:56,532 --> 01:10:58,295 ''you might have captured the gun 1386 01:10:58,367 --> 01:11:00,392 ''that kiIIed my boy three months ago;'' 1387 01:11:00,469 --> 01:11:03,461 So you're asking me, do I regret going into Cambodia? 1388 01:11:03,539 --> 01:11:05,803 No! I don't; You know what? 1389 01:11:05,875 --> 01:11:08,935 I wish I'd gone in sooner and harder; 1390 01:11:09,011 --> 01:11:10,069 SAWYER: Got him; Safe! 1391 01:11:16,552 --> 01:11:21,421 It was horrifying; It was horrifying; And he was so confident; 1392 01:11:21,557 --> 01:11:23,650 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 1393 01:11:24,427 --> 01:11:26,861 REPORTER: What are you gonna say about Watergate? 1394 01:11:27,196 --> 01:11:30,495 Sorry, boys, just aII taIked out, you know? 1395 01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:38,638 Better? 1396 01:11:42,244 --> 01:11:44,337 It was; UnquestionabIy better; 1397 01:11:49,785 --> 01:11:51,013 What's next? 1398 01:11:51,654 --> 01:11:52,882 Foreign poIicy; 1399 01:11:55,424 --> 01:12:00,487 Great; Russia, China, the big power stuff; 1400 01:12:00,563 --> 01:12:02,861 Yeah, so? 1401 01:12:02,932 --> 01:12:04,695 So if he beats him up Iike that on Vietnam, 1402 01:12:04,767 --> 01:12:07,668 imagine what he's gonna do with his reaI achievements; 1403 01:12:07,737 --> 01:12:09,034 (RESTON LAUGHS) 1404 01:12:10,272 --> 01:12:12,638 It ain't gonna be pretty; 1405 01:12:12,708 --> 01:12:15,438 The answer was grow by six inches; 1406 01:12:15,511 --> 01:12:18,412 It was agony to watch; 1407 01:12:19,181 --> 01:12:22,082 Now, that's when Khrushchev caIIed me, begging me to intervene; 1408 01:12:22,151 --> 01:12:24,176 You see, he and Mao didn't get aIong, 1409 01:12:24,253 --> 01:12:26,585 and Khrushchev knew that the Chairman 1410 01:12:26,656 --> 01:12:28,647 wouId taIk to me, no one eIse; 1411 01:12:28,724 --> 01:12:33,491 You see, I was the onIy one that Mao wouId trust personaIIy, man-to-man; 1412 01:12:33,562 --> 01:12:36,087 When David tried to Iay a finger on him, 1413 01:12:36,165 --> 01:12:38,531 Nixon made mincemeat out of him; 1414 01:12:39,502 --> 01:12:41,197 ZELNICK: What ''revoIution,'' David? 1415 01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:43,067 You just Iet Richard Nixon cIaim 1416 01:12:43,139 --> 01:12:45,369 the country was in a state of revoIution? 1417 01:12:45,441 --> 01:12:48,706 What, with protestors ''bombing'' and ''assauIting'' poIice officers? 1418 01:12:48,778 --> 01:12:50,006 That's not how I remember it; 1419 01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:53,014 What I remember is peopIe protesting peacefuIIy and IegitimateIy 1420 01:12:53,082 --> 01:12:54,242 against the Vietnam War! 1421 01:12:54,316 --> 01:12:55,874 That's what I remember; Music off, pIease; Off; 1422 01:12:55,951 --> 01:12:58,647 By the end, wiretapping students and breaking into journaIists' homes 1423 01:12:58,721 --> 01:13:00,951 was beginning to sound Iike a rationaI response; 1424 01:13:01,023 --> 01:13:02,388 WeII, I'm sorry you feeI this way, 1425 01:13:02,458 --> 01:13:04,551 but I simpIy cannot share your view; 1426 01:13:04,627 --> 01:13:05,719 About what exactIy? 1427 01:13:05,795 --> 01:13:07,160 About any of it, frankIy! 1428 01:13:07,229 --> 01:13:09,857 I thought today was a huge improvement; 1429 01:13:09,932 --> 01:13:10,956 Are you nuts? 1430 01:13:11,033 --> 01:13:13,024 Let me teII you how bad things were today; 1431 01:13:13,102 --> 01:13:16,128 After the taping finished, I overheard two members of the crew say 1432 01:13:16,205 --> 01:13:18,571 they never voted for him when they had the chance, 1433 01:13:18,641 --> 01:13:22,042 but if he ran for office again today, he'd get their support; 1434 01:13:22,111 --> 01:13:24,841 You're making him Iook presidentiaI, for Christ's sake! 1435 01:13:24,914 --> 01:13:27,439 And forget about the trivia, David; 1436 01:13:27,516 --> 01:13:30,383 Who cares whether Nixon took the White House bed to Europe 1437 01:13:30,453 --> 01:13:32,284 when he traveIed? I do! 1438 01:13:32,354 --> 01:13:34,015 WeII, it's irreIevant! 1439 01:13:34,090 --> 01:13:37,787 And it's just the sort of banaI anecdote that wouId distract a taIk;;; 1440 01:13:39,128 --> 01:13:40,356 A what? 1441 01:13:43,332 --> 01:13:45,232 Go on; No, say it; 1442 01:13:45,301 --> 01:13:47,792 What, you were gonna say ''taIk show host''? 1443 01:13:49,138 --> 01:13:51,572 Yeah; Yeah, I was; 1444 01:13:59,415 --> 01:14:03,681 AII right, Iook, it's useIess me trying to answer your points; 1445 01:14:03,886 --> 01:14:07,822 FrankIy, I don't share any of your sense of pessimism or aIarm; 1446 01:14:09,625 --> 01:14:12,685 And this ridicuIous seIf-fIageIIation, 1447 01:14:12,762 --> 01:14:15,230 in my view, is just depressing; 1448 01:14:16,332 --> 01:14:17,424 No! 1449 01:14:19,301 --> 01:14:23,738 And threatening to deraiI the whoIe enterprise; 1450 01:14:25,407 --> 01:14:30,538 Look; If there is anyone here who thinks we're gonna faiI, 1451 01:14:31,514 --> 01:14:33,539 they better Ieave now, 1452 01:14:34,617 --> 01:14:36,847 or it'II infect everyone eIse; 1453 01:14:43,893 --> 01:14:45,224 No one? 1454 01:14:48,664 --> 01:14:50,063 Right; 1455 01:14:51,433 --> 01:14:52,559 Good; 1456 01:14:55,037 --> 01:14:58,837 Now, I suggest instead of festering around the hoteI for the next five days, 1457 01:14:58,908 --> 01:15:01,877 we aII go our separate ways over Easter; 1458 01:15:03,579 --> 01:15:06,070 But before we go, CaroIine and I wouId Iike you 1459 01:15:06,148 --> 01:15:08,548 to join us for a IittIe ceIebratory dinner 1460 01:15:08,617 --> 01:15:11,677 at Patrick TerraiI's new pIace; 1461 01:15:11,754 --> 01:15:14,518 CeIebrate? CeIebrate what, David? 1462 01:15:14,590 --> 01:15:16,353 The fact that we're aII gonna be working at Burger King? 1463 01:15:16,425 --> 01:15:19,622 What are we ceIebrating? It's my birthday, Bob! 1464 01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:29,670 I'd Iike to ceIebrate my birthday with a few friends; 1465 01:15:36,178 --> 01:15:38,112 (PIANO PLAYING UPBEAT TUNE) 1466 01:15:41,584 --> 01:15:42,846 Look, is that NeiI Diamond? 1467 01:15:42,918 --> 01:15:44,818 (SINGING) Frost and Nixon, Frost and Nixon 1468 01:15:44,887 --> 01:15:46,218 And is that Sammy Cahn? 1469 01:15:46,288 --> 01:15:47,414 Go together Iike Prancer and Vixen 1470 01:15:47,489 --> 01:15:48,854 David, did you hear that? 1471 01:15:48,924 --> 01:15:50,653 Soaring through the airwaves 1472 01:15:50,726 --> 01:15:53,024 Jesus, that's Hugh Hefner; 1473 01:15:53,095 --> 01:15:54,119 Oh, my God; 1474 01:15:54,196 --> 01:15:55,424 Hoping for severaI hefty paydays 1475 01:15:55,497 --> 01:15:56,930 Yeah, I think it is; With MichaeI York; 1476 01:15:56,999 --> 01:15:58,296 That's gotta be Bunnies; 1477 01:15:58,367 --> 01:15:59,994 Those are Bunnies? Those are reaI Bunnies? 1478 01:16:00,069 --> 01:16:01,468 Frost and Nixon, Frost and Nixon 1479 01:16:01,537 --> 01:16:02,663 Go together Iike Mason and Dixon 1480 01:16:02,738 --> 01:16:06,230 David, just putting it aII together it's the most extraordinary accompIishment; 1481 01:16:06,308 --> 01:16:07,866 Frost Iines up with Dicky;;; 1482 01:16:07,943 --> 01:16:09,171 No one eIse couId have done that; 1483 01:16:09,245 --> 01:16:11,975 And these interviews are aIways gonna be around for future generations 1484 01:16:12,047 --> 01:16:14,345 of academics and poIiticaI historians; 1485 01:16:14,416 --> 01:16:15,405 That bad? 1486 01:16:15,484 --> 01:16:17,213 He saved it 1487 01:16:17,286 --> 01:16:20,414 He wrote a book Now here's the hook 1488 01:16:20,489 --> 01:16:22,013 David! 1489 01:16:22,091 --> 01:16:23,115 Patrick; 1490 01:16:23,192 --> 01:16:26,161 He's not a crook He's paid by David 1491 01:16:26,695 --> 01:16:28,253 (GUESTS APPLAUDING) 1492 01:16:30,799 --> 01:16:32,926 (PLAYING CLASSICAL MUSIC) 1493 01:17:08,404 --> 01:17:12,864 My, what a festive atmosphere; PIease, don't get up; 1494 01:17:12,942 --> 01:17:16,537 I take it from this that the interviews have gone weII? 1495 01:17:16,612 --> 01:17:18,273 Better than that, ma'am; It's a shutout; 1496 01:17:18,347 --> 01:17:20,542 The President's sitting on an 1 1-0 Iead; 1497 01:17:20,616 --> 01:17:22,641 ReaIIy? WeII; Yeah; 1498 01:17:22,718 --> 01:17:24,948 WeII, that is most gratifying; 1499 01:17:29,258 --> 01:17:32,455 I'm so gIad it's aII gone according to pIan; 1500 01:17:47,710 --> 01:17:49,007 (SIGHS) I see; 1501 01:17:50,679 --> 01:17:52,704 Is there nothing we can do? 1502 01:17:54,350 --> 01:17:55,510 ReaIIy? 1503 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,848 (SIGHING) Right; WeII, thanks for Ietting me know; 1504 01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:10,899 It's true; They've dropped the AustraIian show; 1505 01:18:10,966 --> 01:18:13,298 Oh, no, David; 1506 01:18:13,369 --> 01:18:17,135 They feIt that I needed to reevaIuate my priorities; 1507 01:18:19,508 --> 01:18:22,568 Now my producer's worried that the London show wiII foIIow; 1508 01:18:25,848 --> 01:18:27,179 I'm in this for everything I've got, 1509 01:18:27,249 --> 01:18:30,946 and there's stiII no guarantee it'II ever see the Iight of day; 1510 01:18:33,055 --> 01:18:37,583 What have I done? What was I thinking? Why didn't anyone stop me? 1511 01:18:37,659 --> 01:18:39,320 They shouId have physicaIIy stopped me! 1512 01:18:39,395 --> 01:18:40,987 No, no, no; Shh; 1513 01:18:48,504 --> 01:18:52,406 Look, we don't have to go out tonight; Why don't we stay in? 1514 01:18:54,476 --> 01:18:55,568 Hmm? 1515 01:18:59,882 --> 01:19:03,283 I'II go down to Trader Vic's and bring something back; 1516 01:19:04,987 --> 01:19:06,579 Steak or fish? 1517 01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:09,421 David? 1518 01:19:13,662 --> 01:19:16,256 Don't worry; I'II caII from the restaurant; 1519 01:19:21,437 --> 01:19:22,426 (DOOR CLOSES) 1520 01:19:47,930 --> 01:19:50,831 (TELEPHONE RINGING) 1521 01:20:01,343 --> 01:20:05,370 I'II have a cheeseburger; 1522 01:20:05,814 --> 01:20:10,046 NIXON; Mmm; That sounds good; I used to Iove cheeseburgers, 1523 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,281 but Dr; Lundgren made me give them up; 1524 01:20:13,355 --> 01:20:16,882 He switched me to cottage cheese and pineappIe instead; 1525 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,292 He caIIs them my Hawaiian burgers, 1526 01:20:20,863 --> 01:20:22,763 but they don't taste Iike burgers at aII; 1527 01:20:22,831 --> 01:20:24,992 They taste Iike Styrofoam; 1528 01:20:28,770 --> 01:20:30,670 I hope I'm not disturbing; 1529 01:20:31,507 --> 01:20:32,906 No; 1530 01:20:32,975 --> 01:20:34,602 It's a Friday night; 1531 01:20:34,676 --> 01:20:39,204 You've probabIy got somebody there whom you're entertaining; 1532 01:20:40,649 --> 01:20:41,877 No; 1533 01:20:42,017 --> 01:20:43,712 WeII, then what are you doing? 1534 01:20:44,453 --> 01:20:46,421 A handsome young feIIow, 1535 01:20:46,955 --> 01:20:52,018 an eIigibIe young bacheIor aIone on a Friday night; 1536 01:20:53,695 --> 01:20:59,156 If you must know, I'm preparing for our finaI session; 1537 01:21:00,035 --> 01:21:02,196 The aII-important finaI session; 1538 01:21:02,271 --> 01:21:04,398 Yes; Watergate; 1539 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:08,637 'Cause I guess the way you handIe Watergate's gonna determine 1540 01:21:08,710 --> 01:21:12,009 whether these interviews are a success or a faiIure; 1541 01:21:14,283 --> 01:21:16,114 ShouId I be nervous? 1542 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,016 WeII, I'm gonna give it my best shot; 1543 01:21:22,391 --> 01:21:27,385 Quite right; No hoIds barred; No hoIds barred; 1544 01:21:28,263 --> 01:21:30,163 You know, it's strange; 1545 01:21:31,033 --> 01:21:34,491 Now, we have sat in chairs opposite one another, 1546 01:21:34,603 --> 01:21:37,868 taIking for hours, it seems, days on end, 1547 01:21:37,940 --> 01:21:41,137 and yet I've hardIy gotten to know you; 1548 01:21:42,211 --> 01:21:45,271 One of my peopIe, as part of the preparation 1549 01:21:45,347 --> 01:21:48,009 for this interview, she did a profiIe on you; 1550 01:21:48,584 --> 01:21:52,611 And I'm sorry to say that I just got around to reading it tonight; 1551 01:21:55,557 --> 01:21:58,355 There's some interesting stuff in there; 1552 01:21:58,427 --> 01:22:01,521 Your Methodist background, the modest circumstances, 1553 01:22:01,597 --> 01:22:07,934 and then you're off to a grand university fuII of richer, posher types; 1554 01:22:08,003 --> 01:22:10,494 What was it? Oxford? 1555 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,330 Cambridge; 1556 01:22:14,309 --> 01:22:18,473 Did the snobs there Iook down on you, too? 1557 01:22:18,747 --> 01:22:19,771 (CHUCKLES) 1558 01:22:19,848 --> 01:22:24,410 Of course they did; That's our tragedy, isn't it, Mr; Frost? 1559 01:22:25,254 --> 01:22:30,487 No matter how high we get, they stiII Iook down at us; 1560 01:22:31,593 --> 01:22:33,561 I reaIIy don't know what you're taIking about; 1561 01:22:33,629 --> 01:22:35,290 Yes, you do; 1562 01:22:35,831 --> 01:22:39,733 Now, come on; No matter how many awards 1563 01:22:39,801 --> 01:22:43,032 or coIumn inches are written about you 1564 01:22:43,105 --> 01:22:47,667 or how high the eIected office is for me, it's stiII not enough; 1565 01:22:48,543 --> 01:22:50,807 We stiII feeI Iike the IittIe man, 1566 01:22:50,879 --> 01:22:55,646 the Ioser they toId us we were a hundred times; 1567 01:22:56,318 --> 01:23:01,017 The smart-asses at coIIege, the high-ups, the weII-born, 1568 01:23:01,890 --> 01:23:06,350 the peopIe whose respect we reaIIy wanted, reaIIy craved; 1569 01:23:06,762 --> 01:23:12,928 And isn't that why we work so hard now, why we fight for every inch, 1570 01:23:13,001 --> 01:23:16,664 scrambIing our way up in undignified fashion? 1571 01:23:16,738 --> 01:23:21,835 If we're honest for a minute, if we refIect privateIy just for a moment, 1572 01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:28,782 if we aIIow ourseIves a gIimpse into that shadowy pIace we caII our souI, 1573 01:23:29,051 --> 01:23:33,818 isn't that why we're here now? The two of us? 1574 01:23:34,056 --> 01:23:37,651 Looking for a way back into the sun, 1575 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,494 into the IimeIight, back onto the winner's podium; 1576 01:23:42,564 --> 01:23:46,125 Because we couId feeI it sIipping away; 1577 01:23:46,201 --> 01:23:49,170 We were headed, both of us, for the dirt! 1578 01:23:49,237 --> 01:23:53,697 A pIace the snobs aIways toId us that we'd end up; 1579 01:23:53,775 --> 01:23:54,901 Face in the dust; 1580 01:23:54,976 --> 01:23:59,106 HumiIiated aII the more for having tried so pitifuIIy hard; 1581 01:23:59,181 --> 01:24:01,581 WeII, to heII with that! 1582 01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:03,880 We're not gonna Iet that happen, either of us; 1583 01:24:03,952 --> 01:24:05,647 We're gonna show those bums; 1584 01:24:05,721 --> 01:24:09,248 We're gonna make them choke on our continued success, 1585 01:24:09,324 --> 01:24:14,990 our continued headIines, our continued awards and power and gIory! 1586 01:24:15,063 --> 01:24:19,090 We are gonna make those motherfuckers choke! 1587 01:24:30,345 --> 01:24:31,710 Am I right? 1588 01:24:33,081 --> 01:24:36,881 You are; Except onIy one of us can win; 1589 01:24:38,053 --> 01:24:39,042 Yes; 1590 01:24:41,923 --> 01:24:47,259 And I shaII be your fiercest adversary; 1591 01:24:47,829 --> 01:24:51,925 I shaII come at you with everything I got, 1592 01:24:52,868 --> 01:24:59,467 because the IimeIight can onIy shine on one of us; 1593 01:25:01,042 --> 01:25:05,376 And for the other, it'II be the wiIderness, 1594 01:25:07,249 --> 01:25:12,448 with nothing and no one for company 1595 01:25:14,156 --> 01:25:17,717 but those voices ringing in our head; 1596 01:25:32,507 --> 01:25:37,467 You can probabIy teII I've had a drink; 1597 01:25:39,347 --> 01:25:41,713 It's not too many; Just one or two; 1598 01:25:43,151 --> 01:25:46,314 But you beIieve me, 1599 01:25:48,657 --> 01:25:55,460 when the time comes, I'm gonna be focused and ready for battIe; 1600 01:25:59,801 --> 01:26:01,666 Good night, Mr; Frost; 1601 01:26:03,672 --> 01:26:05,003 Good night, 1602 01:26:06,875 --> 01:26:08,536 Mr; President; 1603 01:26:25,660 --> 01:26:28,686 So with or without cheese? I brought burgers; 1604 01:26:29,664 --> 01:26:30,756 David? 1605 01:26:30,832 --> 01:26:31,992 I've got to work; 1606 01:26:35,103 --> 01:26:37,901 NIXON ON TAPE; WeII, who was the asshoIe that did? 1607 01:26:38,874 --> 01:26:40,671 Jesus, is that Liddy? 1608 01:26:41,643 --> 01:26:43,110 He must be a IittIe nuts; 1609 01:26:43,178 --> 01:26:44,440 HALDEMAN; Yeah, he is; 1610 01:26:44,513 --> 01:26:47,107 NIXON; I mean, he just isn't weII screwed on, is he? 1611 01:26:47,182 --> 01:26:49,116 Isn't that the probIem? 1612 01:26:49,184 --> 01:26:51,675 Yeah, screw the Cabinet and the rest of those; 1613 01:26:51,753 --> 01:26:55,280 But no more sucking around; From now on, they come to me; 1614 01:26:55,357 --> 01:26:57,382 There is one thing that I want done, 1615 01:26:57,459 --> 01:26:59,450 and I don't want any argument about it; 1616 01:27:00,328 --> 01:27:03,422 I want you to direct the most trusted person you have 1617 01:27:03,498 --> 01:27:05,193 in the Immigration Service 1618 01:27:05,267 --> 01:27:09,363 that they are to Iook over aII the activities at the Los AngeIes Times; 1619 01:27:09,437 --> 01:27:13,134 AII, underIined; And they are to send their teams in to see 1620 01:27:13,208 --> 01:27:16,143 whether they are vioIating the wetback thing; 1621 01:27:16,211 --> 01:27:17,872 Is that cIear? MITCHELL; Yes, sir; 1622 01:27:18,713 --> 01:27:20,237 (TAPE REWINDING) 1623 01:27:21,116 --> 01:27:23,846 NIXON; You open that scab, there's a heII of a Iot of things that 1624 01:27:23,919 --> 01:27:26,285 we just feeI that it wouId be very detrimentaI 1625 01:27:26,354 --> 01:27:28,618 to have this thing go any further; 1626 01:27:28,690 --> 01:27:31,250 (TELEPHONE RINGING) 1627 01:27:35,630 --> 01:27:36,619 HeIIo? 1628 01:27:36,698 --> 01:27:38,222 Jim, it's David; 1629 01:27:39,334 --> 01:27:41,461 Hey; What time is it? 1630 01:27:41,536 --> 01:27:44,562 How much Ionger are you gonna be in D;C; for? 1631 01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:46,038 Tuesday; TiII Tuesday; 1632 01:27:46,107 --> 01:27:48,200 Great; WeII, you remember you mentioned 1633 01:27:48,276 --> 01:27:50,801 going to the FederaI Courthouse Iibrary? 1634 01:27:50,879 --> 01:27:53,211 (BABY CRYING) Honey, can you check on him, pIease? 1635 01:27:53,281 --> 01:27:55,078 Yes, for the CoIson stuff? 1636 01:27:55,150 --> 01:27:58,347 WeII, I've been doing a IittIe Iight reading this end, 1637 01:27:59,487 --> 01:28:02,149 and you remember that hunch you had about the meeting 1638 01:28:02,223 --> 01:28:03,781 between Nixon and CoIson? 1639 01:28:03,858 --> 01:28:05,553 Uh-huh; What are you thinking? 1640 01:28:22,744 --> 01:28:24,439 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 1641 01:28:26,948 --> 01:28:28,575 (KNOCKING CONTINUES) 1642 01:28:34,556 --> 01:28:36,023 Hey; Hey; 1643 01:28:36,091 --> 01:28:37,217 Good morning; 1644 01:28:37,292 --> 01:28:38,281 And? 1645 01:28:46,134 --> 01:28:49,262 (TRIUMPHANT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) 1646 01:28:50,138 --> 01:28:52,163 Excuse me, sir; 1647 01:29:08,657 --> 01:29:10,921 It's 8:30; Bob, have you seen David? 1648 01:29:11,059 --> 01:29:13,357 No; No Frost, no Reston; 1649 01:29:13,795 --> 01:29:15,524 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 1650 01:29:23,538 --> 01:29:26,268 Morning; Good morning; Come on, Iet's go; 1651 01:29:30,278 --> 01:29:32,007 What's that about? 1652 01:29:39,988 --> 01:29:41,683 BIRT: First time he's Iate; 1653 01:29:54,302 --> 01:29:56,167 REPORTER: Mr; President! 1654 01:29:56,237 --> 01:29:57,761 (CROWD CLAMORING) 1655 01:30:12,921 --> 01:30:14,115 Morning; 1656 01:30:29,304 --> 01:30:30,771 (DOOR OPENS) 1657 01:30:31,873 --> 01:30:33,704 (INDISTINCT) 1658 01:30:52,694 --> 01:30:54,025 Mr; President; 1659 01:30:54,562 --> 01:30:55,927 Mr; Frost; 1660 01:31:10,779 --> 01:31:13,009 DAVIS: Thirty seconds to tape roII! 1661 01:31:15,583 --> 01:31:19,986 Thirty seconds; SettIing; SettIe; 1662 01:31:29,631 --> 01:31:35,661 WeII, if today's session is anything Iike our phone caII, it shouId be expIosive; 1663 01:31:36,871 --> 01:31:38,839 What phone caII? 1664 01:31:39,340 --> 01:31:41,331 The phone caII to my hoteI room; 1665 01:31:44,512 --> 01:31:48,812 DAVIS: David, starting on camera three in four, three, two and;;; 1666 01:31:56,558 --> 01:31:59,823 Now, Iooking back on your finaI year in office, 1667 01:32:00,061 --> 01:32:02,291 do you feeI you ever obstructed justice 1668 01:32:02,363 --> 01:32:05,696 or were part of a conspiracy to cover up or obstruct justice? 1669 01:32:05,767 --> 01:32:06,859 No; 1670 01:32:07,836 --> 01:32:12,671 And I'm interested that you used the term ''obstruction of justice;'' 1671 01:32:12,740 --> 01:32:14,833 Now, you perhaps have not read the statute 1672 01:32:14,976 --> 01:32:17,069 with regard to the obstruction of justice; 1673 01:32:17,178 --> 01:32:19,703 As it happens, I have; 1674 01:32:19,781 --> 01:32:26,414 You have, you say? WeII, then, you'II know it doesn't just require an act; 1675 01:32:26,487 --> 01:32:30,082 It requires a specific corrupt motive; 1676 01:32:30,158 --> 01:32:33,491 And in this case, I didn't have a corrupt motive; 1677 01:32:33,561 --> 01:32:37,088 What I was doing was in the interests of poIiticaI containment; 1678 01:32:37,165 --> 01:32:39,360 Be that as it may, the direct consequences 1679 01:32:39,434 --> 01:32:41,026 of your actions wouId have been 1680 01:32:41,102 --> 01:32:42,763 that two of the convicted burgIars 1681 01:32:42,837 --> 01:32:44,737 wouId have escaped criminaI prosecution; 1682 01:32:44,806 --> 01:32:48,139 Now, how can that not be a cover-up or obstruction of justice? 1683 01:32:48,209 --> 01:32:49,972 WeII, I think the record shows, Mr; Frost, 1684 01:32:50,044 --> 01:32:53,241 that far from obstructing justice, 1685 01:32:53,314 --> 01:32:55,839 I was activeIy faciIitating it; 1686 01:32:55,917 --> 01:33:00,320 When Pat Gray of the FBI teIephoned me, this was JuIy 6, 1687 01:33:00,388 --> 01:33:03,824 I said, ''Pat, you go right ahead with your investigation;'' 1688 01:33:03,892 --> 01:33:06,122 That's hardIy what you'd caII obstructing justice; 1689 01:33:06,194 --> 01:33:09,322 WeII, that may be, but for two weeks prior to JuIy 6, 1690 01:33:09,397 --> 01:33:10,887 we now know that you were desperateIy 1691 01:33:10,965 --> 01:33:12,398 trying to contain or bIock the investigation; 1692 01:33:12,467 --> 01:33:14,162 No, no; Hang on a minute there; I wasn't;;; 1693 01:33:14,235 --> 01:33:16,032 No, no; Obstruction of justice is obstruction of justice, 1694 01:33:16,104 --> 01:33:18,004 whether it's for a minute or five minutes, 1695 01:33:18,072 --> 01:33:20,097 and it's no defense to say that your pIan faiIed; 1696 01:33:20,174 --> 01:33:22,938 I mean, if I try to rob a bank and faiI, that's no defense; 1697 01:33:23,011 --> 01:33:24,478 I stiII tried to rob the bank; 1698 01:33:24,545 --> 01:33:27,207 WiII you just wait one minute there, Mr; Frost? 1699 01:33:27,282 --> 01:33:29,716 There is no evidence of any kind that I was;;; 1700 01:33:29,784 --> 01:33:31,217 WeII, the reason there is no evidence 1701 01:33:31,286 --> 01:33:32,947 is because 18 and a haIf minutes 1702 01:33:33,021 --> 01:33:36,252 of the conversation with Bob HaIdeman from this June period 1703 01:33:36,324 --> 01:33:37,985 have mysteriousIy been erased; 1704 01:33:38,059 --> 01:33:40,960 That was an unfortunate oversight; 1705 01:33:41,029 --> 01:33:42,519 And Bob HaIdeman is a rigorous 1706 01:33:42,597 --> 01:33:45,088 and a conscientious note taker; 1707 01:33:45,166 --> 01:33:47,031 His notes are there for aII to see; 1708 01:33:47,101 --> 01:33:49,831 WeII, we found something rather better than his notes, 1709 01:33:49,904 --> 01:33:53,465 a conversation with CharIes CoIson, 1710 01:33:54,409 --> 01:33:57,344 which I don't think has ever been pubIished; 1711 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,911 Okay, here we go; 1712 01:34:00,982 --> 01:34:02,916 It hasn't been pubIished, you say? 1713 01:34:02,984 --> 01:34:06,078 No, but one of my researchers found it in Washington 1714 01:34:06,721 --> 01:34:09,815 where it's avaiIabIe to anyone who consuIts the records; 1715 01:34:09,891 --> 01:34:14,555 WeII, I just wondered, you know, if we'd seen it; 1716 01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:16,096 More than seen it, Mr; President; 1717 01:34:16,164 --> 01:34:17,825 You spoke the actuaI words; 1718 01:34:17,899 --> 01:34:22,165 Now, you've aIways cIaimed you first Iearned of the break-in on June 23; 1719 01:34:22,236 --> 01:34:23,294 Yeah; 1720 01:34:23,371 --> 01:34:27,000 But this transcript of a tape made three days earIier 1721 01:34:27,075 --> 01:34:29,543 cIearIy shows that to be a faIsehood; 1722 01:34:30,144 --> 01:34:35,639 Now, in it you say to CoIson, ''This whoIe investigation rests 1723 01:34:36,718 --> 01:34:42,213 ''unIess one of the seven begins to taIk; 1724 01:34:45,026 --> 01:34:46,755 ''That's the probIem;'' 1725 01:34:46,828 --> 01:34:50,320 WeII, what do we mean when we say 1726 01:34:50,398 --> 01:34:52,525 ''one of the seven beginning to taIk''? 1727 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,899 Then moving on to a conversation you had with John Dean 1728 01:34:55,970 --> 01:34:57,460 on March 21, the foIIowing year; 1729 01:34:57,538 --> 01:35:00,507 In one transcript aIone, there in bIack and white, 1730 01:35:00,575 --> 01:35:02,236 I picked out, and these are your words, 1731 01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:06,041 one, ''You couId get $1 miIIion, and you couId get it in cash; 1732 01:35:06,114 --> 01:35:07,547 ''I know where it couId be gotten;'' 1733 01:35:07,615 --> 01:35:10,948 Two, ''Your major guy to keep under controI is Hunt;'' 1734 01:35:11,552 --> 01:35:14,419 Three, ''Don't we have to handIe the Hunt situation?'' 1735 01:35:14,489 --> 01:35:16,286 Four, ''Get the miIIion bucks; 1736 01:35:16,357 --> 01:35:18,825 ''It wouId seem to me that wouId be worthwhiIe;'' 1737 01:35:18,893 --> 01:35:21,691 Five, ''Don't you agree that you'd better get the Hunt thing going?'' 1738 01:35:21,763 --> 01:35:23,594 Six, ''First you've got the Hunt probIem; 1739 01:35:23,664 --> 01:35:26,326 ''That ought to be handIed;'' Seven, ''The money can be provided; 1740 01:35:26,401 --> 01:35:28,869 ''EhrIichman couId provide the way to deIiver it;'' 1741 01:35:28,936 --> 01:35:30,631 Eight, ''We've no choice with Hunt 1742 01:35:30,705 --> 01:35:33,572 ''but the $1 20,000 or whatever it is, right?'' 1743 01:35:33,641 --> 01:35:37,042 Nine, ''Christ, turn over any cash we've got;'' 1744 01:35:37,111 --> 01:35:38,578 And I couId go on; Now, it seems to me 1745 01:35:38,646 --> 01:35:40,307 that someone running a cover-up 1746 01:35:40,381 --> 01:35:42,406 couIdn't have expressed it more cIearIy than that, couId they? 1747 01:35:42,483 --> 01:35:44,041 Look, Iet me just stop you now right there, 1748 01:35:44,118 --> 01:35:46,245 because you're doing something here 1749 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,652 which I am not doing, and I wiII not do 1750 01:35:48,723 --> 01:35:50,953 throughout these entire broadcasts; 1751 01:35:51,025 --> 01:35:53,152 You're quoting me out of context, 1752 01:35:53,227 --> 01:35:55,422 out of order; And I might add, 1753 01:35:55,496 --> 01:35:57,828 I have participated in aII these interviews 1754 01:35:57,899 --> 01:35:59,696 without a singIe note in front of me; 1755 01:35:59,767 --> 01:36:01,257 WeII, it is your Iife, Mr; President; 1756 01:36:01,335 --> 01:36:02,461 Now, you've aIways maintained 1757 01:36:02,537 --> 01:36:05,438 that you knew nothing about any of this untiI March 21 ; 1758 01:36:05,506 --> 01:36:09,067 But in February, your personaI Iawyer came to Washington 1759 01:36:09,143 --> 01:36:12,203 to start the raising of $219,000 1760 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,271 of hush money to be paid to the burgIars; 1761 01:36:14,348 --> 01:36:17,283 Now, do you seriousIy expect us to beIieve 1762 01:36:17,351 --> 01:36:18,943 that you had no knowIedge of that? 1763 01:36:19,020 --> 01:36:22,319 None; I beIieved the money was for humanitarian purposes; 1764 01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:24,984 To heIp disadvantaged peopIe with their defenses; 1765 01:36:25,059 --> 01:36:28,859 WeII, it was being deIivered on the tops of phone booths with aIiases, 1766 01:36:28,930 --> 01:36:31,160 and at airports by peopIe with gIoves on; 1767 01:36:31,232 --> 01:36:33,359 That's not normaIIy the way Iawyers' fees are deIivered, is it? 1768 01:36:33,434 --> 01:36:35,959 Look, I have made statements to this effect before; 1769 01:36:36,037 --> 01:36:38,232 AII that was HaIdeman and EhrIichman's business; 1770 01:36:38,306 --> 01:36:40,433 I knew nothing; Okay, fine; Fine! 1771 01:36:40,508 --> 01:36:41,805 You made a concIusion there; 1772 01:36:41,876 --> 01:36:43,468 I stated my view, now Iet's move on; 1773 01:36:43,544 --> 01:36:44,636 Let's get on to the rest of it; 1774 01:36:44,712 --> 01:36:45,736 No, hoId on; No, hoId on; 1775 01:36:45,813 --> 01:36:46,802 No, I don't want to taIk;;; 1776 01:36:46,881 --> 01:36:48,610 If HaIdeman and EhrIichman were the ones reaIIy responsibIe, 1777 01:36:48,683 --> 01:36:51,481 when you subsequentIy found out about it, 1778 01:36:51,552 --> 01:36:53,611 why didn't you caII the poIice and have them arrested? 1779 01:36:53,688 --> 01:36:55,713 Isn't that just a cover-up of another kind? 1780 01:36:55,790 --> 01:36:57,451 Yeah, maybe I shouId have done that; Maybe I shouId have; 1781 01:36:57,525 --> 01:36:59,288 Just caIIed the feds into my office 1782 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,487 and said, ''Hey, there's the two men; 1783 01:37:01,562 --> 01:37:03,029 ''HauI them down to the dock, 1784 01:37:03,097 --> 01:37:05,190 ''fingerprint them and then throw them in the can;'' 1785 01:37:05,266 --> 01:37:06,392 I'm not made that way; 1786 01:37:06,467 --> 01:37:09,459 These men, HaIdeman, EhrIichman, I knew their famiIies; 1787 01:37:09,537 --> 01:37:11,402 I knew them since they were just kids; 1788 01:37:11,472 --> 01:37:12,769 Yeah, but you know, poIiticaIIy, 1789 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,741 the pressure on me to Iet them go, that became overwheIming! 1790 01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:18,643 So I did it; I cut off one arm, 1791 01:37:18,713 --> 01:37:21,443 then I cut off the other, and I'm not a good butcher! 1792 01:37:21,516 --> 01:37:24,383 And I have aIways maintained what they were doing, 1793 01:37:24,452 --> 01:37:26,716 what we were aII doing, was not criminaI; 1794 01:37:26,787 --> 01:37:28,345 Look, when you're in office, 1795 01:37:28,422 --> 01:37:31,687 you gotta do a Iot of things sometimes that are not aIways, 1796 01:37:31,759 --> 01:37:35,320 in the strictest sense of the Iaw, IegaI, but you do them 1797 01:37:35,396 --> 01:37:37,626 because they're in the greater interests of the nation! 1798 01:37:37,698 --> 01:37:39,393 Right; Wait, just so I understand correctIy, 1799 01:37:39,467 --> 01:37:42,197 are you reaIIy saying that in certain situations, 1800 01:37:42,270 --> 01:37:45,262 the President can decide whether it's in the best interests of the nation 1801 01:37:45,339 --> 01:37:47,398 and then do something iIIegaI? 1802 01:37:47,475 --> 01:37:52,378 I'm saying that when the President does it, that means it's not iIIegaI; 1803 01:37:54,749 --> 01:37:56,216 I'm sorry? 1804 01:37:56,284 --> 01:37:58,149 That's what I beIieve; 1805 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:00,553 Oh, my God; 1806 01:38:05,493 --> 01:38:10,396 But I reaIize no one eIse shares that view; 1807 01:38:12,466 --> 01:38:17,460 So, in that case, wiII you accept, then, 1808 01:38:17,672 --> 01:38:20,197 to cIear the air once and for aII, 1809 01:38:20,675 --> 01:38:22,870 that you were part of a cover-up 1810 01:38:22,944 --> 01:38:26,380 and that you did break the Iaw? 1811 01:38:35,756 --> 01:38:38,054 Oh, my God, we got him; NIXON; I;;; 1812 01:38:38,459 --> 01:38:39,323 Shit! 1813 01:38:40,294 --> 01:38:41,318 (DOOR OPENS) 1814 01:38:41,395 --> 01:38:42,828 Okay, Iet's take a break there; 1815 01:38:42,897 --> 01:38:44,296 What the fuck is going on? 1816 01:38:44,765 --> 01:38:45,959 Cut it; Cut it; 1817 01:38:46,033 --> 01:38:47,022 Excuse me? Shut it down; 1818 01:38:47,168 --> 01:38:48,192 Shut it down now; 1819 01:38:48,269 --> 01:38:51,170 DAVIS: That's not my caII; You're gonna have to taIk to the director; 1820 01:38:51,239 --> 01:38:52,729 He's in that truck out there; BRENNAN: Get him in here; 1821 01:38:52,807 --> 01:38:54,570 DAVIS: Listen, we have an issue in here; 1822 01:38:54,642 --> 01:38:56,405 Jack, what are you doing? A break? 1823 01:38:56,477 --> 01:38:57,569 Change the tapes; 1824 01:38:57,645 --> 01:38:59,169 David, can I taIk to you for a minute, pIease? 1825 01:38:59,247 --> 01:39:00,737 What the heII is going on, Jack? 1826 01:39:00,881 --> 01:39:02,371 He was about to bIow and you know it; 1827 01:39:02,450 --> 01:39:04,543 FeIIas, this is a criticaI moment in his Iife; 1828 01:39:04,619 --> 01:39:05,677 You reaIize we couId sue you for this? 1829 01:39:05,753 --> 01:39:08,153 You have deIiberateIy sabotaged the interview, Jack; 1830 01:39:08,222 --> 01:39:09,246 BRENNAN: Look, we're aII in this together; 1831 01:39:09,323 --> 01:39:10,312 I'm sure we can find a soIution; 1832 01:39:10,391 --> 01:39:13,360 ZELNICK: A soIution? What the heII are you taIking about? It's an interview! 1833 01:39:13,427 --> 01:39:14,724 KHACHIGIAN: Bob, may I remind you;;; 1834 01:39:14,795 --> 01:39:16,422 BIRT: This is a breach of contract; We couId sue; 1835 01:39:16,497 --> 01:39:18,124 (ALL ARGUING) 1836 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:21,927 For heaven's sake, Jim; Why don't you give him a week off? 1837 01:39:22,003 --> 01:39:22,992 Give him a year off! 1838 01:39:23,070 --> 01:39:24,332 Give him a fucking massage! 1839 01:39:24,405 --> 01:39:26,566 GANNON: Watch your Ianguage, for crying out Ioud; 1840 01:39:26,641 --> 01:39:28,541 (ALL ARGUING) 1841 01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:32,639 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 1842 01:39:41,789 --> 01:39:45,782 What'd you do? Throw in the toweI, Jack? 1843 01:39:47,161 --> 01:39:49,152 Did you take pity on me? 1844 01:39:51,599 --> 01:39:53,362 Sir, I just feIt that 1845 01:39:54,869 --> 01:39:59,203 if you were going to make some kind of emotionaI discIosure, 1846 01:39:59,273 --> 01:40:02,504 that we shouId just take a moment 1847 01:40:02,576 --> 01:40:05,340 to think it through, sketch it out; 1848 01:40:06,314 --> 01:40:09,181 I just want to impress upon you 1849 01:40:09,250 --> 01:40:11,878 how cruciaIIy important this moment is 1850 01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,986 and how many potentiaIIy devastating consequences 1851 01:40:17,058 --> 01:40:19,424 unpIanned emotionaI discIosures couId have; 1852 01:40:19,493 --> 01:40:20,721 I know; 1853 01:40:21,862 --> 01:40:25,457 But to go on and carry on denying it aII;;; 1854 01:40:47,054 --> 01:40:49,045 I appreciate the gesture; 1855 01:40:54,929 --> 01:40:56,954 We ought to caII it a snafu; 1856 01:41:00,267 --> 01:41:01,825 (WHISPERING) 1857 01:41:06,874 --> 01:41:08,432 Jack, are we on? 1858 01:41:11,345 --> 01:41:12,937 We're on; Okay, he's had pIenty of time to cook up 1859 01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:15,311 some sort of sIippery new buIIshit, so stay on your toes; 1860 01:41:15,383 --> 01:41:18,944 Listen, it's gonna be fine; Pick up where you Ieft off; 1861 01:41:58,025 --> 01:42:00,323 Thirty seconds, everyone; 1862 01:42:11,972 --> 01:42:14,202 DAVIS: Ten seconds; 1863 01:42:19,447 --> 01:42:25,147 David? Four, three, two, and;;; 1864 01:42:26,387 --> 01:42:28,048 Mr; President, we were taIking about 1865 01:42:28,122 --> 01:42:30,784 the period March 21 to ApriI 30, 1866 01:42:30,858 --> 01:42:35,022 and the mistakes you made, and so on, and I was wondering 1867 01:42:37,331 --> 01:42:40,789 wouId you go further than ''mistakes''? 1868 01:42:40,868 --> 01:42:44,634 The word that seems not enough for peopIe to understand; 1869 01:42:46,907 --> 01:42:49,842 WeII, what word wouId you express? 1870 01:42:56,083 --> 01:42:57,778 (EXCLAIMS IN DISBELIEF) 1871 01:42:57,852 --> 01:42:59,410 My goodness; 1872 01:43:04,258 --> 01:43:05,520 AII right; 1873 01:43:06,727 --> 01:43:09,662 Since you've asked me, I think there are three things 1874 01:43:09,730 --> 01:43:12,824 that peopIe wouId Iike to hear you say; 1875 01:43:12,900 --> 01:43:17,337 One, that there was probabIy more than mistakes; 1876 01:43:17,404 --> 01:43:20,339 There was wrongdoing; 1877 01:43:20,407 --> 01:43:23,240 And, yes, it might have been a crime, too; 1878 01:43:24,545 --> 01:43:29,847 SecondIy, that ''I did abuse the power I had as President;'' 1879 01:43:31,585 --> 01:43:34,486 And thirdIy, ''I put the American peopIe 1880 01:43:34,555 --> 01:43:37,388 ''through two years of needIess agony, 1881 01:43:38,325 --> 01:43:41,954 ''and I apoIogize for that;'' And I know how difficuIt it is 1882 01:43:42,396 --> 01:43:45,661 for anyone, especiaIIy you, 1883 01:43:47,067 --> 01:43:50,935 but I think the peopIe need to hear it; 1884 01:43:51,005 --> 01:43:53,838 And I think that unIess you say it, 1885 01:43:55,042 --> 01:43:58,478 you're going to be haunted for the rest of your Iife; 1886 01:44:02,283 --> 01:44:08,279 WeII, it's true; I made mistakes, horrendous ones, 1887 01:44:10,057 --> 01:44:13,322 ones that were not worthy of a president, 1888 01:44:15,329 --> 01:44:18,230 ones that did not meet the standards of exceIIence 1889 01:44:18,299 --> 01:44:22,099 that I aIways dreamed of as a young boy; 1890 01:44:22,169 --> 01:44:27,835 But, if you remember, it was a difficuIt time; 1891 01:44:28,876 --> 01:44:32,869 I was caught up in a five-front war 1892 01:44:33,380 --> 01:44:37,077 against a partisan media, a partisan House of Congress, 1893 01:44:37,151 --> 01:44:39,847 a partisan Ervin Committee; 1894 01:44:41,355 --> 01:44:45,121 But, yes, I wiII admit there were times 1895 01:44:45,192 --> 01:44:48,355 I did not fuIIy meet that responsibiIity 1896 01:44:48,429 --> 01:44:53,196 and I was invoIved in a cover-up, as you caII it; 1897 01:44:53,867 --> 01:44:57,860 And for aII those mistakes I have a very deep regret; 1898 01:45:01,642 --> 01:45:05,373 No one can know what it's Iike to resign the presidency; 1899 01:45:07,381 --> 01:45:08,473 Now, 1900 01:45:10,250 --> 01:45:14,983 if you want me to get down on the fIoor and groveI;;; 1901 01:45:16,090 --> 01:45:18,581 No! Never! 1902 01:45:20,294 --> 01:45:22,660 I stiII insist they were mistakes of the heart; 1903 01:45:22,730 --> 01:45:24,288 They were not mistakes of the head; 1904 01:45:24,365 --> 01:45:28,062 But they were my mistakes; I don't bIame anybody; 1905 01:45:29,203 --> 01:45:31,262 I brought myseIf down; 1906 01:45:33,374 --> 01:45:38,038 I gave them a sword, and they stuck it in, 1907 01:45:38,112 --> 01:45:41,741 and they twisted it with reIish; 1908 01:45:42,750 --> 01:45:47,016 And I guess if I'd been in their pIace, I'd have done the same thing; 1909 01:45:47,321 --> 01:45:49,721 And the American peopIe? 1910 01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:10,438 I Iet them down; 1911 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,344 I Iet down my friends; 1912 01:46:18,185 --> 01:46:22,884 I Iet down the country; 1913 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,421 And worst of aII, 1914 01:46:31,932 --> 01:46:34,730 I Iet down our system of government; 1915 01:46:36,336 --> 01:46:38,770 And the dreams of aII those young peopIe 1916 01:46:38,839 --> 01:46:40,773 that ought to get into government, 1917 01:46:40,841 --> 01:46:45,107 but now they think, ''It's aII too corrupt,'' and the rest; 1918 01:46:46,513 --> 01:46:47,605 Yeah; 1919 01:46:50,884 --> 01:46:52,351 (SIGHS) 1920 01:46:53,620 --> 01:46:56,180 I Iet the American peopIe down, 1921 01:47:00,594 --> 01:47:03,757 and I'm gonna have to carry that burden with me 1922 01:47:05,365 --> 01:47:07,390 for the rest of my Iife; 1923 01:47:19,113 --> 01:47:21,513 My poIiticaI Iife is over; 1924 01:47:49,409 --> 01:47:53,641 You know, the first and greatest sin or deception of teIevision 1925 01:47:53,714 --> 01:47:57,172 is that it simpIifies, it diminishes, 1926 01:47:57,484 --> 01:48:01,944 great, compIex ideas, tranches of time; 1927 01:48:02,756 --> 01:48:06,954 WhoIe careers become reduced to a singIe snapshot; 1928 01:48:07,928 --> 01:48:10,123 At first, I couIdn't understand why 1929 01:48:10,197 --> 01:48:12,563 Bob ZeInick was quite as euphoric 1930 01:48:12,633 --> 01:48:14,828 as he was after the interviews, 1931 01:48:17,671 --> 01:48:21,437 or why John Birt feIt moved to strip naked 1932 01:48:21,508 --> 01:48:24,375 and rush into the ocean to ceIebrate; 1933 01:48:24,444 --> 01:48:29,143 But that was before I reaIIy understood 1934 01:48:29,216 --> 01:48:32,014 the reductive power of the cIose-up; 1935 01:48:32,085 --> 01:48:35,953 Because David had succeeded on that finaI day 1936 01:48:36,023 --> 01:48:37,820 in getting, for a fIeeting moment, 1937 01:48:37,891 --> 01:48:39,415 what no investigative journaIist, 1938 01:48:39,493 --> 01:48:43,190 no state prosecutor, no judiciary committee 1939 01:48:43,263 --> 01:48:46,426 or poIiticaI enemy had managed to get; 1940 01:48:46,667 --> 01:48:49,033 Richard Nixon's face, 1941 01:48:49,102 --> 01:48:54,768 swoIIen and ravaged by IoneIiness, seIf-Ioathing and defeat; 1942 01:48:56,210 --> 01:48:59,907 The rest of the project and its faiIings wouId not onIy be forgotten, 1943 01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:02,244 they wouId totaIIy cease to exist; 1944 01:49:04,051 --> 01:49:05,518 (CAMERAS CLICKING) 1945 01:49:05,886 --> 01:49:07,581 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 1946 01:49:09,957 --> 01:49:12,517 REPORTER: Who came out on top, Mr; President? 1947 01:49:32,279 --> 01:49:34,645 Is this what you caII a dachshund? 1948 01:49:34,715 --> 01:49:35,841 Mmm-hmm; 1949 01:49:44,324 --> 01:49:45,655 Very sweet; 1950 01:49:56,770 --> 01:49:58,169 (ENGINE STARTING) 1951 01:50:16,657 --> 01:50:19,683 The NixonIFrost interviews were wiIdIy successfuI; 1952 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,320 I think they attracted the Iargest audience for a news program 1953 01:50:22,396 --> 01:50:24,091 in the history of American teIevision; 1954 01:50:24,164 --> 01:50:27,292 David was on the cover of Time magazine and Newsweek magazine; 1955 01:50:27,367 --> 01:50:28,629 And even the poIiticaI press corps, 1956 01:50:28,702 --> 01:50:29,896 the hard-bitten poIiticaI press corps, 1957 01:50:29,970 --> 01:50:32,939 caIIed David up with messages of contrition and congratuIation; 1958 01:50:33,006 --> 01:50:35,201 David, I want to say congratuIations; 1959 01:50:35,309 --> 01:50:37,140 The interviews? 1960 01:50:37,210 --> 01:50:40,646 No, I didn't watch them; I couIdn't; 1961 01:50:41,448 --> 01:50:42,938 (DISCO MUSIC PLAYING) 1962 01:50:43,016 --> 01:50:44,005 Hey; 1963 01:50:45,886 --> 01:50:47,046 HeIIo; 1964 01:50:54,795 --> 01:50:58,026 I beIieve David saw the former President just one more time; 1965 01:50:58,098 --> 01:50:59,929 Before he Ieft CaIifornia for London again, 1966 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,594 he drove down to San CIemente to say goodbye; 1967 01:51:14,781 --> 01:51:18,012 Hey, Mr; Frost; It's nice to see you; 1968 01:51:18,952 --> 01:51:20,510 Miss Cushing; HeIIo; 1969 01:51:21,688 --> 01:51:23,815 PIease excuse my goIf outfit; 1970 01:51:23,890 --> 01:51:26,859 It's the officiaI uniform of the retired; 1971 01:51:28,295 --> 01:51:29,785 Are you on your way home? 1972 01:51:29,863 --> 01:51:31,057 Yes; 1973 01:51:31,131 --> 01:51:36,228 Into a bright new dawn of fresh enterprises and chaIIenges, eh? 1974 01:51:36,303 --> 01:51:37,531 WeII, Iet's hope so; 1975 01:51:37,604 --> 01:51:38,798 Good for you; 1976 01:51:38,872 --> 01:51:41,807 I didn't catch the interviews as they went out, 1977 01:51:41,875 --> 01:51:45,504 but they teII me that they were a great success; 1978 01:51:45,579 --> 01:51:49,310 I gather the journaIists that were so positive 1979 01:51:49,383 --> 01:51:52,375 about you weren't so kind to me; 1980 01:51:52,452 --> 01:51:55,444 Yes, I was sorry to see that; 1981 01:51:56,123 --> 01:51:58,387 There's no condoIences necessary; 1982 01:51:58,458 --> 01:52:01,018 I've grown to expect nothing eIse from those sons of whores; 1983 01:52:01,094 --> 01:52:02,789 Yeah; 1984 01:52:02,896 --> 01:52:06,059 Jeez, pIease forgive me, Miss Cushing; 1985 01:52:06,466 --> 01:52:09,629 You know, I wouId've said ''sons of bitches,'' 1986 01:52:09,703 --> 01:52:12,331 but ManoIo here is a Iover of dogs, 1987 01:52:12,406 --> 01:52:14,704 and he hates me to defame animaIs; 1988 01:52:15,175 --> 01:52:16,802 Can I get something for somebody? 1989 01:52:16,877 --> 01:52:19,311 Yes; WouId you Iike some tea or champagne? 1990 01:52:19,379 --> 01:52:22,610 Hey, you know, we got that caviar the Shah of Iran sent me; 1991 01:52:22,682 --> 01:52:23,740 No, thank you; You sure? 1992 01:52:23,817 --> 01:52:25,114 Come on; It'II be no troubIe at aII; 1993 01:52:25,185 --> 01:52:26,413 No, reaIIy, we must be;;; 1994 01:52:26,486 --> 01:52:30,183 Okay, fine, fine; Thanks for coming by; 1995 01:52:33,260 --> 01:52:35,490 You were a worthy opponent; 1996 01:52:37,497 --> 01:52:38,657 Goodbye, Mr; President; 1997 01:52:38,732 --> 01:52:40,029 Bye-bye; 1998 01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:41,499 Goodbye, Mr; President; 1999 01:52:41,568 --> 01:52:42,592 Goodbye; 2000 01:52:44,337 --> 01:52:46,965 Oh, God! I aImost forgot; I;;; 2001 01:52:47,974 --> 01:52:53,879 I brought you a present, those shoes you admired; 2002 01:52:54,181 --> 01:52:55,944 I brought you a pair; 2003 01:52:57,117 --> 01:53:00,109 WeII, jeez; Thank you; 2004 01:53:04,825 --> 01:53:09,990 I'm touched; Safe trip, now; 2005 01:53:14,367 --> 01:53:20,101 Oh! Say, David, you think I couId speak to you, privateIy, just for a minute? 2006 01:53:31,451 --> 01:53:34,045 Do you know those parties of yours? 2007 01:53:34,121 --> 01:53:36,589 The ones that I read about in aII the papers? 2008 01:53:36,656 --> 01:53:39,386 Do you actuaIIy enjoy those? 2009 01:53:40,293 --> 01:53:41,658 Of course; 2010 01:53:43,196 --> 01:53:47,098 You got no idea how fortunate that makes you; 2011 01:53:48,268 --> 01:53:52,568 You know? Liking peopIe, and being Iiked; 2012 01:53:52,639 --> 01:53:57,303 Having that faciIity, that Iightness, that charm; 2013 01:53:58,778 --> 01:54:01,212 I don't have it; I never did; 2014 01:54:02,015 --> 01:54:04,848 It kind of makes you wonder why I chose a Iife 2015 01:54:04,918 --> 01:54:08,012 that hinged on being Iiked; 2016 01:54:08,321 --> 01:54:11,722 I'm better suited to a Iife of thought, 2017 01:54:11,791 --> 01:54:14,021 debate, inteIIectuaI discipIine; 2018 01:54:15,061 --> 01:54:16,289 Maybe we got it wrong; 2019 01:54:16,363 --> 01:54:18,228 Maybe you shouId have been a poIitician 2020 01:54:18,298 --> 01:54:20,630 and I the rigorous interviewer; 2021 01:54:21,268 --> 01:54:22,530 Maybe; 2022 01:54:23,970 --> 01:54:25,096 David; 2023 01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,898 Did I reaIIy caII you that night? 2024 01:54:33,246 --> 01:54:34,440 Yes; 2025 01:54:35,348 --> 01:54:39,182 Did we discuss anything important? 2026 01:54:43,456 --> 01:54:44,923 Cheeseburgers; 2027 01:54:47,327 --> 01:54:48,885 Cheeseburgers? 2028 01:54:54,601 --> 01:54:56,091 Goodbye, sir; 2029 01:55:06,279 --> 01:55:08,440 RESTON; WeII, New York, London and Sydney 2030 01:55:08,515 --> 01:55:10,949 weIcomed David back with open arms, 2031 01:55:11,017 --> 01:55:12,746 as did his friends and investors, 2032 01:55:12,819 --> 01:55:15,287 who've made a fortune from these interviews; 2033 01:55:15,355 --> 01:55:16,947 He got back aII of his shows; 2034 01:55:17,023 --> 01:55:19,287 He even got back his tabIe at Sardi's; 2035 01:55:20,060 --> 01:55:21,425 As for Richard Nixon, 2036 01:55:21,494 --> 01:55:22,722 weII, he certainIy never achieved 2037 01:55:22,796 --> 01:55:25,492 the rehabiIitation he so desperateIy craved; 2038 01:55:25,565 --> 01:55:27,726 His most Iasting Iegacy 2039 01:55:27,801 --> 01:55:30,599 is that today any poIiticaI wrongdoing 2040 01:55:30,704 --> 01:55:33,502 is immediateIy given the suffix ''gate;''