[narrator] Previously on Little People, Big World...
[Zach] It's a boy, it's a boy!
It's a boy.
Yeah, Josiah's a little person,
has achondroplasia like his siblings.
[Jackson speaking]
[yelling]
There's times, yeah, we feel outnumbered.
Jackson has his needs, Lilah has hers, and then Josiah...
[crying]
Last night was rough.
[Tori] Sleep training is just...
It's been impossible.
I haven't slept since I gave birth to him.
[Josiah crying]
Look at this little Josiah!
[Zach] We don't have plans for Caryn to meet Josiah.
Like, they still think they did nothing wrong.
[Matt] Zach and Tori have really isolated themselves
from me and Cha-Cha, and the farm.
At some point, you and Zach need to have another conversation.
[Caryn] I miss the kids every day,
but I don't have the tools to fix it.
Caryn tells other people that she's waiting for our olive branch,
and the dove took it to another island, I don't know.
[both] Go!
Whoo!
[Zach] The older they get, they're gonna start realizing
that the world maybe looks at them differently,
or that they are different.
So you said you had a big plan B.
The farmhouse sale is, you know, still out there.
It's just a matter that it's a tough time.
So I am, um, gonna pivot.
Plan B, to do short-term rental.
Now the farm stays in the family.
That could be a nice little side income.
Wow...
Okay, so you're doing pumpkin season this year?
I agreed to do pumpkin season
because there's an element of it that I enjoy.
And if it goes south, that's a choice I live with,
if it goes great, that's a choice I live with, too.
[Matt] Zach's not gonna be, you know, here doing the tours,
and he's not gonna be doing pumpkin season.
So, we're hoping that Chris is interested in, uh, filling some of that role.
Matt opened up that he might, uh, want to do private tours.
Would you hold it against me if I did?
[Zach] My dad bringing back private tours,
trying to sell it off like it's the same thing as me doing private tours.
It's like, whatever.
The farm is not a place of joy for me anymore.
[Amy] I... I just think it's sad.
You know, we're all trying to figure out...
This is still family, but how do we interact with that family now?
[Matt] Okay, everybody.
We're almost back to Helvetia Road,
so we're gonna open up the line here.
Two minute warning till opening on 2022.
Grand opening pumpkin season, 19...
No, 2000...
2022.
Caryn Chandler to Matt Roloff,
Leif is now available because I have Josh in parking.
Where should I send Leif?
The first few hours before we open the doors
is always a mad dash to get things all set.
But we're very excited.
Amy and Chris will be here later,
we're real excited about that.
It's always fun to have them out.
And hopefully the other kids will show up as well.
We are open for Roloff Farms 2022 pumpkin season...
...celebration!
I really miss Jackson sitting there next to me,
and greeting folks as they come in the... in the gate,
I think that's a really important role.
Yeah, wave! There you go.
That's a cool one, I like that wave.
It's sad, but we're just, you know,
I believe in moving forward the best you can.
Go on!
Let's go, good girl.
I can't believe it's October or pumpkin season again.
And Chris will be here a little bit later.
I don't think I'm as excited as I have been in the past.
It just doesn't have that feeling.
Like, it has kind of last year, the year before.
[murmuring] Well, I don't even know where to go now.
I don't know if any of the kids,
or Zach and Tori, or even Jackson,
or any of those guys will show up.
I mean...
...there's always drama in the family,
and... and we just look at this place much differently than...
...we ever have before.
-Oh, hey! -I'm late.
Late? Oh, wait a minute. Late?
Late? Oh, you guys, he's late!
He's late!
That's usually her, so she likes to rub it in when I'm late.
-I gotta go. -All right.
All right, well I'm running late,
I'm getting ready for my first tour,
and they're waiting on me, so I gotta go.
Good morning... or afternoon.
Sorry, I'm late, I should've been here about 20 minutes ago.
-How you doin'? -[driver] Hey.
[guests murmuring]
[Chris] Okay...
[woman speaking]
-Oh, jeez. -[guests laughing]
Ah...
Last year was my first time doing the wagon tour.
I... I wouldn't want to do it as a full-time job,
but a couple hours a day?
It's fun, I enjoy meeting the new people,
and I'm looking forward to doing it again.
So a lot of parents like to build their kids a...
a dollhouse or a tree fort, or... or you know,
some sort of play structure.
Well, Matt wanted to build a whole town for his boys.
So we're gonna stop here for a few minutes,
you can wander around, check it out, take some pictures.
I'll be doing the wagon tours for about two hours a day,
and Matt's gonna make it available if, uh,
anyone wants to do a private tour,
then I'll do another hour,
but I wanted to make sure that he had my name on it.
And, you know, the people don't show up and go,
"Aw, it's you... I wanted Matt or Amy!"
Hi there, how are ya?
-[woman] Good, how's it going? -[man] This is my other daughter, Ava...
-Oh. -[man] This is my wife, Amy.
[Matt] Nice to meet you, Amy. Yeah, right on.
-[Amy] What's up? -Hey.
Okay, well it's a pleasure, guys, meeting you.
-I'm gonna catch up with her and we'll finish then. -[guests] Yeah.
-[Matt] We'll be around, okay? -[Amy] Bye!
It's fun to meet those that have come to the farm,
and find out why, or a lot of them have come
and this is their second, third, maybe fourth time,
and I enjoy meeting everybody!
-And how's Daisy doing? -[Amy] Oh, she's like...
-[Matt] Low-key? -Yeah.
What do you think about this whole plan B idea?
Well, you know, don't get me started on that, Matty.
-[Matt chuckling] -I think it's a sad state of affairs.
Yeah, I sent a text to everybody
saying I was pivoting and gonna go to plan B,
um, which was a short-term rental, uh, concept.
I didn't get any response, like I don't most of the time, you know.
Everybody's living their own life,
and I think everybody in the family's gonna protect their emotions,
and not go through a roller coaster,
because they're used to all the flux and the change
and... and the shifting, and, um, shifting gears.
I get it.
-It didn't sell, and that can be your other option. -[Matt] Yeah, mmm-hmm.
You do whatever you... need to do.
Matt has a tendency to be more business-orientated.
A lot more than maybe personal, at least, you know,
from my perspective and what I think.
And so I just learned over time that that's just the way it is.
-Okay, I'll take off? -All right, thanks Amy. Yup.
-Thanks for coming out and thanks for checking in. -[Amy] Yeah, absolutely.
All in all, it was a very good day,
I'm very pleased.
We didn't see Zach and Tori, but I suspect they may come through
at some point in the, um, process.
Uh, but I don't know.
You know, we'll have to wait and see.
[Zach] Are you stoked?
Let's go check it out.
[Tori] He's like, "Aw, dang! I can't reach the door."
-[Zach] He can't reach it? -[Tori laughing]
[Tori] Oh, Lilah, are you ready?
[Zach] So we rented an RV, and we're gonna go
like an hour, hour and a half north of us to the Mount St. Helens area.
Yeah, we wanna take Josiah on his first camping trip
before it gets colder.
It's been a pretty mild October,
and good time to do it.
All right, where do you want them to sit...
-...while we drive? -I don't... well, I don't know.
Like, that's the thing.
-I don't know. -And then you and Lilah in the big bed,
-I'll be up there, and then Jackson's on the couch? -[Tori] Can you...
And Siah will be in the Pack 'n Play?
Yeah.
Siah can be right here in the Pack 'n Play,
-and then Murphy's right there. -[Tori] Murphy... yeah.
-I love RVing. We've done a... -Love it.
...a couple RV trips with the kids,
and I'm excited to do it again.
We did a road trip, though, with Lilah when she was, like...
-[Zach] Yeah. -If we could do it with Lilah
when she was four months old, we can do it with anyone.
-[Zach] Easy-peasy. -[Tori] We went to the Grand Canyon.
That kid just cried the entire time we were there.
-[Zach] Yeah. -So...
-[Zach] This'll be easy. -This'll be easy.
[Zach] Hey, that's where Dad's sleeping.
-You already said you wanted to sleep on the couch. -[Tori] Gimme high-five, dude!
Chris and my mom will be joining us,
but, uh, it's a pretty quick trip for everyone.
Uh, especially for them, they have to get back for pumpkin season.
[Jackson speaking]
[Tori] We have a big fridge.
Pumpkin season is starting, and I don't feel that weird
not being part of it.
It is nice not to have to deal with it,
and just not... yeah. It's just...
It is nice.
I don't know if we're gonna go to pumpkin season,
but we'll, uh, we'll see.
[Tori] What do you think, sis?
-It... It won't... -[Tori] Lilah's unsure.
My dad texted us that he's renting out the house as a short-term rental.
I kind of just try to numb myself to everything.
It's just irrelevant now.
Like, if things worked out differently,
it's kind of...
...you know, just ironic, like, ridiculous, honestly.
But, you know, I have a family...
Everything could've just been different.
Um, instead, now he's going to this plan B of renting it to strangers,
and a lot of it just doesn't make sense, you know?
All right, let's go inside and pack.
[Amy] Coming up...
-Tori! Tori! -[Tori laughing]
-[screaming] Ah! -[Lilah wailing]
[Zach and Jackson laughing]
There's a tidal wave, just over them.
Her world ended that day.
[Matt] And later...
I have to make a huge announcement.
You have got to be high.
I... I can't see any of my kids doing that.
I... I would gamble my life on it.
[Tori] Do you have all your stuff, sister girl?
[Lilah speaking softly]
-[Tori] Can I help you put it in? -[Lilah speaking softly]
[Jackson speaking]
[Zach] I'll lock up, bud. Don't worry about it.
Today, we're going on our RV trip.
We just have to pack a few more essentials,
and then we're on our way.
-[Tori] You ready? -Yeah!
-[Tori] You buckled? -Yeah!
[Tori] Okay.
Did you get all your stuff?
Okay, where is it at?
Say "R..."
[Lilah mumbling]
-"V..." -[Lilah repeating]
RV.
[Lilah repeating]
-There you go. -Good job.
-[Zach] We rollin'... -[Tori] Roll out, Roloffs!
Whoa! Here we go.
We're just going up to Mount St. Helens.
We're just going for a night, you know,
Jackson's got soccer, and it's just a fun way to end the summer.
[Chris] Amy and I haven't, uh, done an overnight bike trip,
uh, since we got back from Alaska.
So, I'm looking forward to an opportunity of getting out of town,
and it'll be fun to go up and see Zach and Tori.
Since we're on the motorcycle, we are going to be staying in a...
in a little cabin that this RV park provides.
Graciously, my friend Deb said yes to taking care of Daisy
while we're on this camping trip... with Zach and Tori and family.
I think potty training is going pretty good with Daisy.
I mean, she has an occasional accident here.
But, she is a whole lot better.
[Tori] You gonna come out, Sai-Sai?
-[Zach] Oh, look who's here! -[Tori] Whoa, look who's rolling in!
Hey, Jackson!
[Lilah speaking]
-[Tori] Who's that, Lilah babe? -[Chris] Hey, Lilah!
It happened overnight.
All of a sudden, Lilah just woke up talking about Mimi.
-Yeah. -She went from disliking everyone to...
...she loves her grandmas, but she loves Mimi.
Her and Amy have a really special bond,
which is... it's fun.
[Amy] Hi!
How you doin', little peanut?
Huh? How you doin'?
-This handle okay? -Yeah, it's a tank, dude. It's like...
[Zach] Yeah?
We're sleeping in the RV.
He wins MVP.
-What? -He wins MVP of the whole trip.
-He didn't make a peep. -Oh, yeah?
-[Tori] Aren't you? -How did... How did Lilah and Jackson do in it?
-They loved it. -Yeah?
They loved it, yeah. They had so much fun.
They fell asleep at the end, which was really cute.
I'm glad that Zach and Tori...
...you know, invited us, and you know,
to join them on their camping trip.
And I'm not sure if Zach has heard anything
in regards to what Matt's doing with the farmhouse
in turning it into a short rental.
I don't know.
I don't picture it as my place to tell him.
That... That is Matt's, and I just really want to have a good time.
[Zach] Well Jackson, where are you sitting on this thing?
Wait, let's see if... Jackson, jump in right here.
Can you... Can you fit there?
We're all settled into our campsite.
Josiah's taking a nap, so Mimi and Chris are gonna watch him
while we go kayaking.
-[Chris] Oh, good job. -God... okay.
[Chris] All right.
-[Amy] You got her? -[Tori] Yeah.
Where is the... What is a... Do you know what a...
Where does the boat go?
In the wa wa... are you gonna go on the boat?
No?
How cool is this, Lilah girl?
Aren't you glad that you tried it?
[Lilah mumbling] Yeah.
[Amy] Hey guys, we'll see you later.
[Zach] Yeah, hey...
-[Amy] Oh, yeah. -[Zach] Wait... you have responsibilities.
-[Chris laughing] -[Amy] That's right.
-Chris, you have a role in this too! -[Tori] You got this one?
[Chris] Wha...
...I think I'm doin' it!
[Zach] Lilah's face is so miserable.
[laughing] She's just miserable.
[Tori] No, she's not terrified, she's just over it.
[Zach laughing] Tori, she is so just...
Lilah!
She's sitting there, like bundled up with her life jacket,
just literally with the biggest...
...grump face I've ever seen.
-Lilah... -[crying]
[Tori] No... Lilah.
Lilah, stop.
[Zach] Why don't you drop her off with Mimi?
-Tori? -I'm trying to make memories with my daughter, okay?
[Zach] No, drop her off with Mimi.
I really did think, like, Lilah, try it,
-and I thought she would like it. -Yeah.
But I was... I was wrong.
[Zach] Look how slow Mom is.
-Oh, my gosh! -[Zach] Mom's so slow.
[laughing] How can you go so fast?
[shrieking and laughing] Stop... okay!
[Zach] Tori!
Get out of the way!
Mom's so... Tori! Tori!
-Tori! -[Lilah crying]
-[Jackson] Tori! You're crazy! -[Zach] Tori...
-[Jackson] Tori! -Ah!
-[Lilah wails loudly] -Ah!
[Jackson and Zach laughing]
[in a high-pitched voice] Ah!
[Zach] Let's get out of here.
-[Tori laughing] -[Lilah wailing]
[Tori] Poor... Lilah.
Lilah, you're okay. It's just wa wa, honey.
[Amy] Okay, I thought we had to save you!
[Zach] Lilah needs help.
-[Amy] What happened? -[Zach] Lilah needs a savior.
[Amy] Lilah girl, hi!
Daddy got her all wet.
It's just water!
Tori did this little flick to Jackson and me,
trying to get us wet,
so I took my paddle and just bam!
[Tori] 'Cause I just, his... his competitiveness just gets so annoying!
I'm just so over his...
There's a tidal wave just over them.
-Lilah just... her world... -He's even competitive about how wet he got everyone.
-I'm just like-- -Her world ended that day.
-[Tori] You got her? -[Amy] There you go. Yup.
Hey, Lilah.
I love you, good job!
You did a good job, sis!
[Caryn] This is nice...
It's almost like a... like a little private wine cellar.
Love the bricks.
Pumpkin season has been, uh, hectic,
and busy, it's always a very crazy time of year.
It's nice to get out and have, like, a date night,
and just the two of us to sit down and sort of just breathe and you know,
enjoy each other's company.
Are you getting excited to see if your new short-term rental works well?
Uh, you know, I hear that, um, big house, you know,
-it's coming together with the... -[Caryn] Mmm-hmm.
-...design team, that... -[Caryn] I haven't walked through it either.
I'm curious to see it.
I mean, I've seen a lot of people coming and going and bringing and...
Right.
So, I hope... I hope you like the furniture,
since you're paying for all of it.
Well, I like what I've seen so far,
so you know... but that's gonna...
that's an interesting... maybe we should...
You know, maybe we should drag Chris and Amy.
'Cause I'm sure they would be curious
-if we ask... if we invited them. -Oh, yeah.
I'm excited to see what the house looks like
once it's been all decorated and dolled up.
And I'm also excited to bring Chris and Amy through it
and get their opinion, uh, you know, as well.
So what are your thoughts lately on building your house?
I know you were side railed a little, but are you still...
So, the house is sort of paused,
not by me, but by the bureaucracy.
And, uh, I am very, very, aware...
...that we cannot get married until we have a place together.
Well, I mean, we can.
There's nothing, you know, but, that would be weird to get married,
and then like... I go to my house and you go to yours.
Like, isn't that kind of weird?
Bye, husband! See you tomorrow... [laughing]
[Matt] We're not gonna do that.
[Caryn] You know, Matt and I have talked about
living together for many years.
It hasn't quite come to be.
I love having my house, I love being with him in Arizona,
but I am feeling a pull more towards...
...really planning our future.
And we're on the same page, and it feels really healthy.
I don't know, what do you think?
I think we are. It just...
It just... the stars haven't aligned yet.
[Caryn] Chris and Amy seem to be doing really well.
-[Matt] Yeah. -I saw them, you know, Chris is out doing the...
-...tours, and Amy's greeting people. -Mmm-hmm.
-[Caryn] It's always fun to see them out and around. -Yup.
I haven't seen, um, Zach and Tori.
I don't know if they're gonna actually plan on coming down
for pumpkin season or not.
I... I have no expectation of them coming.
But if they come, I think that's great.
[Matt] With Zach and Tori, space seems to be the best antidote.
So, it's difficult because you'd like to see 'em a little bit more often.
But um...
...I think there's hope for the future.
Well...
I'm sorry that...
...they're still angry.
You know, I think there was a time when it all went down that I was...
...waiting for this big discussion to... to sort of...
...talk about all the feelings involved so we could put things to rest,
and I didn't mean it that way or this wasn't... you know.
But I've come to understand that that's not gonna happen.
-So we have to just... move... move on. -Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm.
You know, when you're young you don't think about age.
You don't think about aging, and then as you hit, I don't know,
I guess for me maybe 50, I think you kind of realize that...
...holding on to anger doesn't hurt anybody else but yourself.
-And so, you pick your battles better. -Yeah, your...
...perspective is a little different.
I hope that everybody feels as settled and happy as I do.
Caryn would like to just get together and, like,
hash out, 'cause that's the way she thinks about things,
hash it out.
Um, but unfortunately, um, you know,
there's not a desire on one side I don't think.
I think it was, "Hey, we need space."
Great, we'll give you lots of space.
How much space you need?
More space, so, we're giving more space,
and focusing on other elements of the family for the moment.
I feel like we are stronger than ever.
Mmm-hmm. Thank you. Yes, I feel the same way.
So, let's see what...
Let's get through this pumpkin season first.
-[Matt] Okay. Maybe I'll... -[chuckles]
Let's get through this pumpkin season and then, um,
maybe I'll pop the question.
Oh, you're not supposed to tell me.
[Matt] Maybe... oh, you're right. [chuckles]
-No, I'm not telling you. -[laughs]
[announcer] Coming up...
[Tori Roloff] How did the opening, uh,
weekend go at pumpkin season?
-[Chris Marek] Very, very light turnout. -Oh, really?
Are you gonna bring, uh, Jackson around in a costume?
[Zachary Roloff] I don't really wanna go, Tori doesn't wanna go.
There's plenty of pumpkin patches up here to go to.
Um, it's just not needed.
[Amy] This is a perfect way to end summer,
with a campfire.
[Zach] It's incredible, it's mid-October though,
and I still haven't put a sweatshirt on yet.
[Tori] Josiah's going night-night.
He couldn't hang on his first night of camping.
[Zach] Josiah, night-night.
-[Tori] Say night-night. -[child speaking]
[Tori] Josiah's sleeping a little bit better,
which is a huge blessing, for sure.
I think Josiah's, like, a perfect mix
-of Jackson and Lilah. -Perfect mix.
He's like, can be super chill...
...but then he also has a little bit of spice to him.
He's, like, the most agile.
Held his head up faster, rolled over faster.
-Squirmiest. -Yeah, ready to roll.
Guys, we didn't even ask you,
how did the opening, uh,
weekend go at pumpkin season?
-It was slow. -[Chris] Very, very light turnout.
-[Tori] Oh, really? -Yeah, really, really light.
[Chris] But he checked, and it's, um,
it wasn't just that farm, a lot of the pumpkin farms
-are really down this year for some reason. -[Tori] That's a bummer.
You have any private tours?
No, and I'm really not ready yet.
I mean, I would wanna run around the farm with somebody
and find out where to go, what to talk about.
I mean, I know nothing about doing a private tour.
I've only had more than a couple minutes on one of those mules.
I mean, I would want to run one of those around for a little bit.
-[laughing] Have you, have you driven a mule? -[laughs]
-Now you're supposed to drive and talk at the same time. -[laughs]
What could go wrong? [chuckles]
Chris told me he's doing the private tours,
and he's a pretty sociable guy, so, like,
I'm sure, you know, he'll be able to talk with people.
And I met a lot of cool people during the private tours.
I heard a lot, a lot of cool stories.
I don't, like, miss it, you know, but it's, you know, it wasn't...
I look back on private tours as a positive experience.
Are you gonna bring Jackson around in a costume?
[Zach] I'm not gonna go to pumpkin season.
We're not going to go to pumpkin season this year.
I don't really wanna go, Tori doesn't wanna go.
There's plenty of pumpkin patches up here to go to.
Um, it's just not needed.
[Chris] So, you won't, you won't, uh,
-be able to see Mimi, then, in costume. -Yeah.
[Amy] I totally, totally understand why.
It's just not, it just doesn't feel right for them.
And I don't think Zach and Tori
are gonna regret not coming there.
[Tori] Lilah, you tired, girl?
[Tori] Yeah? It's been a long day for you, huh?
There's been a lot of emotions that have run through your little body today.
-[Amy] Did you want to go to night-night right now? -[Lilah speaking]
[Zach] Yeah, it's a special time for the family,
they're all in this great age.
Jackson's adjusting really well to his new school, he's making friends.
He did their soccer, the after-school soccer program.
-So he's loving all that. -Mmm-hmm.
[Zach] Lilah continues to make great progress with her speech.
She still defaults to whining
when things aren't working out for her,
instead of, like, talking.
But she's getting a lot better with her speech.
She's got preschool coming up next fall.
Preschool's next, and being a big sister.
-Doing her thing. -Big sister, doing her thing.
-Thanks, babe, 60 in our first year. -[Chris] Yeah.
Battleground's not so bad.
-Clink, clink. -Not so far, according to Mimi.
-I... oh, cheers. -[Tori] Cheers, baby J.
[Zach] Cheers.
[Amy] So far, I think we've had a, you know, a pretty good year.
Just seeing the family, and a new grandson,
and just enjoying that grandma role, for me.
And now we have a new member of our family, Daisy, which...
She's a handful, but she's adorable.
Don't forget, you had a year with a new husband.
-Oh, yeah, you're the new husband. -That's right.
Well, you've been a part of me for so long, but yes,
a year with a new husband, and...
-And my first year, ever, of having a wife. -Yeah.
-Yeah, isn't that weird? -Yes.
-So strange. -[both chuckle]
-You could-- -But so good, so good.
I can still see you, you are... yeah.
-It's been a good year. -It's been a great year.
[Chris] Well, I miss camping with my family, I mean,
we used to do it religiously every summer
and then last few years, we haven't.
-[Chris] And you know, I... -[Amy] Jackson, you used to do that.
-[Amy] Do you do that anymore? -So I'm enjoying doing it with your family.
Growing up as a kid, I always enjoyed going camping
with, um, you know, my siblings and my parents.
And, and now, um,
I'm experiencing it from a grandparent's view.
Uh, I see why so many people like being a grandparent.
You get to, you get to be around these little kids
when they're at their best, you know?
And they're happy to be with you,
and you're happy to be with them,
and they're usually on their best behavior, and...
I'm having a blast.
Other than, uh, Josiah being the newest member of your family, um...
...enjoying watching you all grow.
-[Amy] They'll keep growing. -Yeah.
[Amy] He sometimes gets so sentimental, isn't it cute?
-Sentimental. -[Chris] Hush.
[Amy laughs]
[Zach] We got three beautiful kids with dwarfism,
and, uh, we just... yeah, we're gonna raise them,
hopefully confident, with resilience,
and they're gonna start recognizing that
they're different than everyone else.
Those are just gonna be challenges that
we address when the time comes.
[Tori] Yeah, we're just ready to take on whatever
God has in store for us,
and we'll do it together as a family.
Thanks for joining us on a camping trip.
-Oh, thanks for having us. -[Chris] Yeah, thanks for including us.
-[Chris] This is fun. -[Amy] Yeah.
[Amy] Coming up...
I wanna remember that house like I had it.
I think Matt forgets the personal toll...
...over the years, that coming to this
point right now may have
on some of us, individually, in different ways.
[Matt] We are headed into our third weekend.
You know, we're right in the thick of it right now.
-Hi, there. -I love your little grandbaby.
-That's Caryn's grandson. -Oh, okay.
Caryn on Fridays has Liam, her grandbaby.
And so I'm getting my baby fix, uh, for the day.
[Amy] All right.
-[woman] Hi. -How're y'all doing?
-[woman] Good, how are you? -[Amy] Where are you guys from?
-Missouri. -Oh, wow.
-Thanks for coming. -[woman] Yeah.
[Matt] Amy just does an amazing job
greeting everybody,
and Chris, he's great on those tours.
We're having a ball, and a lot of first timers
on the farm, um, which is always fun.
[woman] Well, thank you so much.
[Matt] Yeah, you guys, I'm glad you guys made it here, okay?
I'm disappointed that Zach, Tori, and the kids
didn't come to the pumpkin patch,
but, you know, it's just the way it is.
[cell phone ringing]
Well, apparently, I'd gotten a text that morning that,
uh, somebody had signed up for a private tour.
I missed the text, so,
when I did hear about it, uh, it was coming up quick.
I did get a chance to drive around the farm
with Matt, and he...
He showed me, uh, you know,
roughly what areas to go to,
and the openings in the fences and everything,
but, you know, it's just one time through.
Hopefully I can remember it.
-So you guys are gonna be my first victims. -[woman] Yes, we are.
We're excited.
Being a realtor for... you know, as a profession,
I'm used to touring properties
and I'm used to talking with people,
and, and, um, you know,
talking about the surroundings and everything,
and so I'm not nervous in that sense.
I'm actually, I'm looking forward to it.
When Amy and I got married, we stood right in front of this gazebo right here.
All the chairs were set out here,
and all our friends and family got to sit out here on the grass
and have this beautiful background.
I definitely like the personal tour better.
I like that I can just sit close to somebody
and have a real conversation, and ask and answer questions.
And that just whole interaction,
the personal touch, the personal feel of it, I like it a lot better.
-[Amy] Hi. -[gasps] Oh, there's Amy.
[Chris] Well, babe, I'm doing my first tour and I'm way over time.
-[laughs] -[Amy] I kinda figured that.
-How are you guys doing? -Oh, wonderful.
[Amy] Good, good to see you. Where y'all from?
-Idaho. Yeah. -Oh, really?
I think the tour went well, they seemed to be, um,
interested in, um, the things that I showed them
and the things that I had to say.
Do you know what you want?
Um, I'll just do a taco if they have a taco.
They were very warm and friendly, and, um,
just had some great conversations with them.
So, it was a good experience.
[Amy] So, did the, um...
...tour go okay?
-[Chris] Mmm-hmm. -Yeah?
Matt opened up the log cabin, I took them down there and let them walk through.
[Amy] Well, I think later on
he wants us to show the house.
Then he's gonna open up, you know, the house, the farmhouse.
-Is it all staged now, or... -I guess.
[Chris] I'm gonna say, just out of curiosity,
because I'm, I'm, because...
I think he's saying that it can sleep 16,
so I wanna see how he's doing that.
How he's staging it for it to sleep 16,
and I'm curious what style he's decorating it in.
[Amy] I wanna remember that house like I had it.
[Chris] You know, it's, uh...
-...kinda like going to a funeral. -Mmm-hmm.
I don't like seeing, looking at it all... [clears throat]
-...open caskets anymore. -Yeah.
Because that's not... they never look how you remember them,
and I wanna remember them how I'm...
So I see what you're saying about the house,
you wanna remember the house how it was when you...
[Amy] I don't wanna have it.
That is my last memory in my head.
It's a good way to, you know,
do something with it while he figures out,
you know, whatever else he's gonna do next year.
But I think, um...
...I also think that he forgets
the personal toll...
...over the years, that coming to this point
right now may have
on some of us individually,
in different ways.
You know, it's just a reminder of...
-...what it's turned into and what it could've been. -Mmm-hmm.
[Matt] Coming up...
Are you excited to see what they did with the place?
Well, Amy's gonna stay out with the dog.
by the way, are you, uh, allowing pets, or no?
[Matt] Amy, what do you mean, you're gonna stay out? You gotta go in with me.
-[Amy] No, I ain't going in. -[Matt] You don't have any curiosity?
[Amy] This is your thing.
[Matt] You can get mad with me.
I'm already mad.
[man] Smile!
-[Matt] All right. -Thanks very much.
[Matt] Yeah, all right, okay.
Today was another great day at the pumpkin patch, I mean,
the weather was perfect, all the guests were having a good time, and, uh,
everybody was enjoying themselves.
[Chris] That's pretty flat.
[Amy] Yeah, that's why I got it for our yard.
[Matt] Now that the day is winding down,
I have a little bit of time to show Chris and Amy
the almost-completed, new, decorated farmhouse.
Are you excited to see what they did with the place?
Well, Amy's gonna stay out with the dog,
by the way, are you allowing pets?
[Matt] Amy, what do you mean, you're gonna stay out? You gotta go in with me.
-[Amy] No, I ain't going in. -[Matt] You don't have any curiosity?
[Amy] This is your thing.
[Matt] You don't have any... you can get mad with me.
I'm already mad.
-[Matt chuckles] -[Chris] Are you sure, babe?
[Chris] My pictures aren't gonna do it justice.
-Come on, you can just tie your dog up. -[Caryn] She can come in.
-Bring your dog in. -[Caryn] Why can't she come in?
[Chris] I'll buy you dinner. It's Friday night, I'll take you out.
-[Amy] Oh, brother. -[Matt] Oh, yeah, okay.
[Amy] No, I didn't want to do it at first,
-but Chris can sometimes be a little... -She had a little coaxing.
Yeah, coaxing and persuasive, and...
Now I'm taking her out to a nice dinner.
Hopefully.
-[Matt] Here we go. -[Amy] Okay.
-[Caryn] Hello! I like the entrance. -[Chris laughs]
[Matt] Okay. Oh! Well, that looks like home.
[Caryn] I think this is, this is a nice room. It's simple, it's...
-[Chris] It's cozy. -[Caryn] It's, it's simple, it's farmhouse.
[Chris] Wow, the office looks good.
So are you making this, like, into a Roloff Farm family thing?
[Matt] Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be.
[Amy] It definitely was my home,
it's where I raised our kids,
and there was family time where Matt did a lot, and...
It's just sad to see it go to this point
as a short-term rental.
It's so strange.
It's like I'm in a foreign land.
[Chris] Is that the old table? The original table?
-[Caryn] Yes. -[Chris] Wow. They kept the dining table.
[Matt] I like this couch choice, though.
[Chris] That's the original, uh, coffee table, too.
-Is that sitting in the garage? Yeah. -Yep.
-[Chris] You don't wanna go in the bedroom? Okay. -No.
[Amy] The farm will always have a special place in my heart.
My memories and everything else.
It was my home, and it was definitely a place,
you know, that still holds tons of memories.
But there comes a time where you gotta end the chapter
and move on to the next one.
And, you know, seeing the house as a short rental,
this doesn't connect with me at all.
It was really like seeing something...
...that wasn't real.
It just feels very strange.
[Chris] So, I think you said you're advertising it that it'll sleep 16?
[Caryn] That's what they wanna do.
[Chris] That's a cute bunk bed.
Actually, I thought, you know, I liked the way it was decorated.
-[snorts] -You know, Amy thought it was sterile,
but I thought it was clean and neat and tidy.
-I liked it. -Of course, no.
-I... -It doesn't feel lived in.
-This is Jeremy's room, wasn't it? -No, Jeremy and Zach's.
And I think Jacob was in here for a while.
Well, Jake, it's time to wake up, buddy.
-Hey, Jeremy, Zach, good morning. -[bell ringing]
[Amy] Just kind of like that.
[Caryn] You know what, I think some of the rooms are missing,
-is those luggage racks that you can open up. -[Matt] Ah.
[Matt] Right, good point.
It definitely spoke volumes of, um...
...seeing something that is gone.
An there's no reviving that.
-This makes you want to sit here and read a book. -[Chris] Oh, yeah.
[Chris] It's decorated well.
[Chris] Oh, that's one of the original pieces of furniture, too.
Yeah, wait until one of my pieces of art in there
-or something gets written on with a crayon, and... -[laughs]
Then we'll have something to worry about.
I can't imagine the poor first renter,
'cause if he's not out there with binoculars,
-I just don't know what he'll be doing. -[Chris chuckles]
[Caryn] We might have you guys over for drinks that night, take turns.
-[all laughing] -[Caryn] "How do they look?"
Okay, I'm not part of that.
-A watch party. Yeah. -[laughing]
Well, Chris, what do you think? All in all, I mean...
[Chris] I, I could see, uh,
I could see large groups wanting to, um, wanting this, um,
especially for the amount you're charging for it. Um...
[Amy] Well, no, you definitely have to have a couple of families.
[Chris] Any restrictions on the outside where people can go?
[Matt] They can walk out there to that red barn, but they can't go in it.
[Chris] Okay, so can they go into western town or the castle?
Can't go into there, no.
The thing is, you're opening this up to the public.
You don't have control of this anymore.
[Caryn] Oh, no, he's sweating it. He's already,
"I don't wanna give them the gate code,
and how am I gonna know who's here?"
and blah, blah, blah, so...
[Chris] Can you do, like, a one-time code
each time somebody rents it,
so that as soon as they leave, the code is changed?
No, I think we're just gonna continue with the phone
and change them... one of them goes to farm phone,
and we're just gonna use the, you know...
[Chris] But they might be out late at night, you know?
-They might come home late. -[Amy] Yeah, I disagree with that.
[Amy] You have got to have a code just for rental.
Matt doesn't... he's like, "I wanna know when they're coming and going."
-[Amy] No, no, no... -But there could be times
you could be in the shower, or asleep.
-They need their own code. -[Chris] People could be going out for a late night dinner
and come in after you're already in bed.
Another option is once they come in the first time,
we might just leave the gate open.
-No, that's worse. -[laughs] Oh, yeah, gosh.
-Oh, my gosh. You crazy? -[laughs]
[Matt] Are you people crazy?
-Let me handle all that. I think I know what-- -[Amy] No.
What do you mean, "no"?
No, each family needs their own code.
You guys, you know how long I have lived with this?
Before, when I, you know, we lived together
and, you know, raising our kids and everything,
I mean, it was ultra-paranoia,
about who's coming on to this farm.
But when you have opened this home,
you have made the choice.
You have to now let the people have free rein,
-Good point. -you know, of it.
So, I have to make a huge announcement.
Family can reserve it for no cost.
-Really? -Yes.
Wait, what did he say?
He says we can get a discount and rent it, have the whole family rent it.
-[Matt] Yeah, we can have-- -Listen--
[Matt] No, not even a discount.
there might be a limit on how many weeks you can do it, but I don't think there is.
-But we can... -[Caryn] You could block dates out.
-[Matt] We could block it out for... -For who?
[Matt] Family, they say family, so we could have...
...Jeremy and his family, uh,
-Chris and Amy could be in-- -You have got to be high.
-[Matt] Chris and Amy-- -To even be thinking of that.
[Matt] Zach and Tori in one room...
I can't see any of my kids doing that.
I would gamble my life on it,
but it ain't gonna be any of the four kids.
I would be flabbergasted if any of them do it.
You had texted the kids about opening this up.
Have you heard back from them?
No. I let them all know, but I didn't expect an answer.
Sent out a text, I think I did a group text. Were you in it?
-I don't remember getting anything. -[Chris] I don't remember.
I, well, sent it to the kids, that we're going to Plan B.
Um, I don't think anybody cared.
-[Amy] They don't wanna care, man. -Yeah, they don't care, right.
-They don't wanna care, and I don't blame them. -[laughs] Okay.
You know, since Matt owns all of this property,
I mean, good for him. I mean, he wasn't able to sell it.
And to turn it into a place like that, good for him.
-[Chris] Yeah. -[Matt] Well...
[Caryn] Well, it just happened so fast, it's kinda crazy.
You know, I definitely don't blame them there,
the, the thing I have a hard time with
is more of the personal side.
This hurt a lot on the personal end of it.
It's just a lot of memories that flood back,
as to what were the kids' rooms, and, you know, the mini kitchen,
uh, dinners that I've made, and kids hanging out,
you know, and stuff.
It's very weird to me, it's very weird. It's very strange.
I don't even know how to explain it.
[Amy on recording] Say bye, guys.
-Bye! -Bye!
[Amy] Yeah.
[Matt] Some elements of the family are never
are never going to agree with me
on the way I'm selling the farm
or the way the farm deal went down.
I just have to accept that and do the best that I can
to keep everybody together, um, the best that I can.
One big lesson I learned from my father was
he always gave everybody
that he ever met unconditional love.
And I try to do that with my kids.
We may not agree on politics,
we may not agree on the farm thing is, or went down.
But all I can do as a father and a grandfather
is keep loving my kids and my grandkids,
um, and hope for the best.
All right, well, let's hope it works.
-[Amy] We'll see. -[Matt] We'll see what happens.