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[Tori] Jackson, good goal!
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Previously on
Little People, Big World...
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Whoo!
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It was a fun, like, first DAAA
experience for our family.
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[Zach] I saw my dad and Caryn
at Jackson's soccer.
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I got to meet Josiah.
He's a little button.
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[Matt] But Zach and Tori
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So we didn't see
a lot of them.
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They were busy, you know,
taking care of the kids.
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[Tori] You want a snack?
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Lilah has stuff going on
with her ears
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which is, like, not good.
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So we're going to go see
a ear, nose, throat doctor
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to see if it's affecting
her hearing,
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delaying her speech.
Know what's going on.
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[Lilah cries]
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Have you talked to Matt
about this whole farm deal?
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He thinks he's owned up
to all his mistakes.
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-I'm like...
-[laughs]
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I think he better ask
all four of us. I don't know.
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[Lisa] I know the boys
are really hurt.
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I've actually had
some conversations
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and their heart was into it.
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But this wasn't
a "family deal".
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It was a business deal.
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[Tori] Are you going to be
a soccer player now?
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[Zach] I feel like he's
getting close to realizing,
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like, he's different.
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He's so proud of himself.
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I hope that that doesn't
break him down, you know.
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That collision of confidence
and self-worth
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and then reality...
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It's coming for him.
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[Zach speaking]
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[Tori] I didn't get the memo
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that we're all wearing
blue today.
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Look how cute all of you are.
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[Tori] Thank you.
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-[hostess] You're welcome.
-[Tori] Hi.
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[Tori] Or do you want to
just sit here?
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-[Lilah] Yeah.
-[Jackson] Yeah, yeah.
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-Are you going to have
mac and cheese?
-[Lilah] Yeah.
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Do you want mac and cheese?
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-[server] How are you guys
doing today?
-[Lilah] Milk.
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-She would like a milk.
-[server] A milk?
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[server] A strawberry
lemonade? Yeah, of course.
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[Tori] And I will also do
a strawberry lemonade.
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[server] Strawberry lemonade.
All right, I'll get
started on that.
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-Thank you.
-[server] Of course.
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What did they check?
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[Jackson speaking]
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They checked your ears?
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-Mm-hmm.
-[Zach] Yeah and your mouth?
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When he checked your mouth,
what did you do?
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[Tori laughs]
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[Tori] A few weeks ago,
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got Lilah's annual
well-child check.
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They do the ear test
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for hearing and she failed it.
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So they were worried that
she has water behind her ears
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and that she maybe couldn't
hear us all the way,
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like it was muffled.
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And it's a possibility
that it could be
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contributing to her delay
in speech.
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So today I took her to
a hearing specialist
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to have more tests ran on her
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to figure out
what's happening.
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-[Jackson] Hey, Lilah.
-Is she deaf?
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-[Jackson speaking]
-[Lilah] Huh?
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-Yeah.
-[Tori laughs]
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So is she deaf?
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She has perfect hearing.
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-She has perfect hearing?
-[Tori] She has
perfect hearing.
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So she's just slow in talking.
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She's just slow in talking.
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The reason why she failed
the pressure test
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at the pediatrician's office
is because she has
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just an irregularly
shaped eardrum.
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But there's no water.
There's no water
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-behind her ear.
-There's nothing behind
her eardrums?
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No.
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She's just behind
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because she had two
ear infections in a row.
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However, currently
her ears look clear.
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Fascinating.
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[Tori] I think he was relived
to hear that.
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Yeah, she doesn't have
a hearing issue.
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Huge relief. Huge relief.
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Doesn't need any sort
of surgeries or anything.
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Yeah. Lilah does not
need tubes,
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that's not, like, even
a question anymore...
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-Is a relief.
-Yes, it's perfect.
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She also said,
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we can put her
in speech therapy.
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[Zach] When Jackson starts
full day's kindergarten,
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I really think you'll have
more time
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to work with her and do
your teaching thing.
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-Right.
-Not to put it all on you,
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-but I think--
-Totally.
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[Tori] I have a background
in child development.
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Not that I consider myself
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a speech pathologist,
by any means.
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-However, like I do have a lot
of tools in my back pocket.
-You have the basics.
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And I think that we can
help her a lot at home
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before we have to,
like, step into
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-a specialist's office.
-Yes.
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-[babbles]
-[Tori laughing]
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[Zach] I think I did
speech therapy
growing up.
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I think my pronunciation
was just...
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My pronunciation still sucks.
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[Tori] Well, it's
pruh-nuhn-ciiation,
first of all.
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-Pro-noun-ciation.
-It's pruh-nuhn-ciation.
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That's unbelievable.
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-[Tori laughs]
-I've never heard
that word before.
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I did have speech therapy.
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And if you ask Tori,
it did not work.
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[laugh]
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-I have pronunciation issues.
-"Pro-noun-ciation" issues...
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I love you.
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But also though, like,
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Amy Roloff, I love you
but "Or-gone..."
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-Oregon?
-"Or-gone",
"per-mia-sion" cheese?
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"Amb-lance".
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Again, sorry.
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[Zach] Um, so...
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This week, we have
the Witouses...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...are coming.
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Jess and Mikey and they have
a boy named Michael.
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And Jackson, he's pretty much
your same age.
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I've known them for years
in LPA.
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They are from Indiana,
South Bend, Indiana.
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Their son is the same age
as our son.
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He is an LP as well.
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So it will be kind of fun
to get Jackson a friend,
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you know, that's an LP
and see how he interacts.
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[Tori] It's been... What?
Five years, six years
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since you've seen them?
That will be fun.
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Hopefully we'll all get along.
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[Tori] Jackson doesn't
really have
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a lot of friends
with achondroplasia.
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I don't think he's made that
distinction anyway of, like,
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this friend doesn't
have achondroplasia
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and this friend does,
you know.
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[Zach] So when this Michael
guy comes,
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what do you want to
show him first?
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Oh, yeah.
He wants to figure out
if he's faster or not.
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This could easily not go well.
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Two alpha dudes going at it
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and just right off the bat
are going to be like,
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"I'm not sharing with you."
And then that's going to set
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the tone for the next
four days.
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There's definitely
a little bit like,
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"Ah! Is this going to work?"
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Ball.
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Josiah.
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[Tori] Very good.
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Look at you.
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[Amy] All right.
Okay, are we going
to be ready for this?
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I'm ready to go.
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Yeah, we're going to kick
some booty.
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-Oh, yeah. Right.
Good to see you.
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-[Amy] Me too.
-Hey, good to see you.
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[Amy] Well, I don't know.
Chris had an energy drink.
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-[Lisa laughs] Oh, no!
-[Art] We're in trouble now.
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[Chris] Art and Lisa Fletcher
are closest long term friends.
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-[Chris] Rally time.
-[Amy] Bring it on!
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The funny thing is, I've got
two friends
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that are Lisa and Art,
Lisa and Art.
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I mean, what are the odds
of that?
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So I have Lisa and Art Dixon
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and then I have Lisa
and Art Fletcher.
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-[Chris] Ooh!
-[Amy grunts]
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-[Art] All right.
-[Chris] Nice move.
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-They are a perfect couple
to play with. It's just...
-Yeah.
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-They are a lot of fun.
-It's just really all about
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exercising and enjoying
the game.
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[Lisa] 2-4.
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[Chris exhales] All right!
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[Amy] For me, I always think
it's a challenge
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playing with people
of average height
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because they just have
a better leverage than I do.
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I mean, I'm...
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Not only a longer reach
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but I'm right even
with the net.
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So even if I have
a great back hand,
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my back hand is not
over the net.
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It's going right into the net.
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[Amy and Chris groans]
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But if I tilt my paddle up
to go over the net,
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it has a tendency to pop up.
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-[Amy] Oh.
-[Lisa] Yes! [laughs]
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Three, four, one.
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-[Amy groans]
-[Art] Game? Game point?
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[Amy] Ooh!
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[Chris laughs]
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No!
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-[Chris groans]
-Victory!
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-All right.
-Woop-woop!
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I don't know. We can't leave
it at one
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-but let's take a break.
-[Chris groans]
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[Amy] You know, Chris and I
look at each other,
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-"Oh, okay. They won this one.
We're gonna get the next one."
-Yeah.
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[Amy] I went to
the farmer's market,
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got all those raspberries
and I told you I'll bring it,
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you know, at our next game.
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I wanted to try something
that I've never done before.
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So I made raspberry sorbet
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and I made some
homemade granola
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and I just thought
that was a nice treat
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after being hot
and sweaty and...
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Yeah, good thinking.
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Do you guys want
anything more?
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[Art] No, I'm good.
This is great.
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That's plenty for me.
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Well, you know that
crazy farm of mine.
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Or not mine anymore.
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It's still up for sale,
right babe?
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It's still up for sale?
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[Art] No? Any interested
buyers at all?
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-I don't know.
-You're out of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I'll tell you.
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If I would have known now
what I did...
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I just had an idea, we kind of
generally talked about it
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and I thought it would go
this certain way, and...
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I was too afraid to take
that financial risk.
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-You're conservative.
-Yeah.
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[Amy] There's parts of me
that wished
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that I would have just
bought Matt out.
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And maybe I could have held
on to it for a year or two
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and I probably would have
just sold it
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to, you know, one of the boys.
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But obviously, with what Matt
has it at now,
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I mean, none of those boys
are able to afford that.
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I have all these memories
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-of, you know,
the Western town.
-I know.
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And... What was it?
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The progressive dinner
through the farm.
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-Oh, yeah, wasn't that fun?
-Yeah, that was awesome.
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-I loved that
progressive dinner.
-[Lisa] Like, driving mule.
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[Chris] When I first met Amy,
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it was kind of talked about
and assumed
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that the side that Amy
lived on,
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that side would continue on
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with one of the twins,
the older boys.
246
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So I was disappointed
that neither Zach or Jeremy
247
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was able to work that out
with their dad, and...
248
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You know, unfortunately,
Zach and Tori,
249
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they headed north
to Battle Ground, and...
250
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Um, it's a shame that
they are farther away.
251
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We don't see them
nearly as often.
252
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Yeah, I definitely think both
the boys have moved on
253
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but it doesn't mean
whatever feelings
254
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and emotions and history
suddenly goes away
255
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and everything's back
to hunky-dory.
256
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I think it will take time
for them.
257
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[Amy speaking]
258
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[Zach speaking]
259
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[Zach] I hope that Jackson
will get along with Michael.
260
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If they don't get along,
it could be a long weekend.
261
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[Michael screams] Maa!
262
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[Amy speaks]
263
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[Caryn] Oh, I'm sorry.
I know this is hard for you.
264
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My dad was getting
more and more ill and...
265
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No, no, no, no, no.
266
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We'll do this later.
267
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This will take forever
to wrap back up.
268
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So my dad let us know
that papa's in the hospital
269
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with complications from COVID.
270
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The whole family got
a group text from my dad
271
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that Papa's not doing well.
272
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But he's fighting.
273
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You know, so it's not time
to come down yet
274
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and so we're going to enjoy
our time with the Witouses.
275
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Um, but I'm on standby.
276
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I honestly think we need about
eight stools.
277
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Tori and Josiah went
to go pick up
278
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the Witouses from the airport.
279
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And Jackson and Lilah
and me waited at home.
280
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The Witouses were not at
the Spokane convention
281
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and so we are glad that
they are able to come out here
282
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and visit us here
in Washington.
283
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Go put these in your room.
284
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Quick, run fast as you can.
Go, go, go.
285
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'Cause they are coming. Quick!
286
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Five, four, three, two...
287
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I think it should be fun
for Jackson to play
288
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with someone else
that has achondroplasia
289
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and it's kind of nice being
able to talk to parents
290
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that just might go through
the same thing
291
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or are going through
the same thing.
292
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[Zach] Hey.
293
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-[Jess] Hello.
-[Tori] Ooh! You're looking
fresh, J.
294
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-[Zach] How are we doing?
-[Mikey] Good, how are you?
295
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-[Zach] I'm good, how was it?
-It was a good flight.
296
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-[Mikey] Not bad.
-[Jess] Yeah.
297
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-Early but good.
-[Zach] Yeah?
298
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-Good thing you got...
-Yeah, you too.
299
00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:18,436
-Thanks for coming out.
-Yeah, thanks for having us.
300
00:12:19,272 --> 00:12:20,939
So we are Mike
and Jess Witous.
301
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The way to remember it is,
"Witous or against us."
302
00:12:23,677 --> 00:12:25,577
It's how I have always
said it.
303
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People tend to remember it
that way.
304
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Hey, Michael.
305
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[Tori] Are you Michael too?
306
00:12:31,651 --> 00:12:33,318
-Technically, yeah.
-[Tori] Technically, okay.
307
00:12:33,353 --> 00:12:34,619
Because my dad's Michael,
308
00:12:34,654 --> 00:12:35,787
so he goes by Mike,
I go by Mikey.
309
00:12:35,822 --> 00:12:36,955
[Zach] So it's a whole
family thing.
310
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-[Tori] This is like
a family thing.
-[Jess] Yeah.
311
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-[Tori] I love that.
-It's not confusing at all.
312
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-[Mikey] Yeah, yeah.
-[Jess] By any means.
313
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[Mikey] I'm one of four
kids in my family.
314
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Everyone's average height
in my family.
315
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I was born into an average
height family
316
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and then at three months
I was adopted
317
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into another average height...
318
00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:54,606
a family of average
height parents
319
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but they had already adopted
two girls, in different times,
320
00:12:58,345 --> 00:13:00,345
but two girls with
dwarfism already.
321
00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:04,015
So I have two sisters
that are both dwarfs.
322
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[Zach] Oh hey, Lilah,
are you part of this too?
323
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Here, we can jump inside.
324
00:13:06,653 --> 00:13:08,319
[Zach] Let's get out
of the heat here.
325
00:13:08,355 --> 00:13:09,687
[Zach] Go on, Jackson.
326
00:13:09,723 --> 00:13:10,755
Can you say hi?
327
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This guy is Michael.
328
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,261
Yeah, Mikey and me go back
a couple of years.
329
00:13:16,296 --> 00:13:18,830
We've played on
a couple of dwarf athletic
teams together.
330
00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:21,466
Her first convention,
we hung out with them
331
00:13:21,501 --> 00:13:23,034
but that was before
any of us had kids.
332
00:13:23,069 --> 00:13:25,036
-We got along really well.
-Yeah.
333
00:13:25,071 --> 00:13:26,004
[Zach] I think Jackson
just knows
334
00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:27,438
that someone's
coming to visit.
335
00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:28,773
-So all of the next
four days--
- [Tori] He's stoked, yeah.
336
00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:30,208
[Zach] ... is going to be,
like, different.
337
00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:32,310
So there's gonna always be
someone to play with.
338
00:13:32,345 --> 00:13:35,079
I hope that Jackson
will get along with Michael.
339
00:13:35,115 --> 00:13:38,683
If they don't get along,
it could be a long weekend.
340
00:13:38,718 --> 00:13:40,418
[Jess] You want to show me
your Batman?
341
00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:42,220
-I bet Jackson likes Batman.
-Is that your Batman?
342
00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:44,622
-Jackson's a Spiderman guy.
-[Jess] Yeah.
343
00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:49,527
-[Zach] Yeah.
-[Jess] He's the same, right?
344
00:13:49,563 --> 00:13:54,032
And you kind of like
the bad guys too, don't you?
345
00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:56,401
[Jess] No?
346
00:13:59,139 --> 00:14:00,839
You like superheroes.
That's a good thing.
347
00:14:00,874 --> 00:14:03,508
[Zach] You guys ever been
to the Northwest?
348
00:14:03,543 --> 00:14:05,643
-[Jess and Mikey] No.
-Were you at the Seattle
conference a few years ago?
349
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,412
[Mikey and Jess] No.
350
00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:08,813
And obviously
the Spokane Convention, no.
351
00:14:08,849 --> 00:14:10,815
-Yeah, we didn't go
to Spokane.
-[Zach] Okay.
352
00:14:10,851 --> 00:14:13,218
-[Zach] All of you, come on.
We can sit down.
-[Tori] Come on in.
353
00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:15,019
-[Zach] See the place.
-[Mikey] You want to see
his room?
354
00:14:15,989 --> 00:14:17,922
[Tori] Oh, you want wa-wa?
355
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:20,225
[Zach] We recently took him
to Spokane.
356
00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:21,593
-[Mikey] Yeah.
-[Zach] And he's like...
357
00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:23,528
He's, like, starting to figure
it out a little bit.
358
00:14:23,563 --> 00:14:25,129
-You know, like?
-[Mikey] Yeah.
359
00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:27,065
We keep trying
to tell him that...
360
00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:28,833
Like, you're not going to be
like grandpa,
361
00:14:28,869 --> 00:14:29,934
-or...
-Yes.
362
00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:31,469
He's like, "Oh,
I'm going to be
tall, like..."
363
00:14:31,504 --> 00:14:32,937
-I'm like, "No."
-[Zach] Yeah.
364
00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,540
[Jess] I feel like I grew up
and I didn't even know...
365
00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:37,408
I don't remember being told.
366
00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:39,177
-[Zach] Yeah.
-You just do it.
367
00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,745
Yeah or it's like a gradual...
368
00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:42,647
I don't remember having
like a doorbell,
369
00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:43,615
-you know.
-[Jess] Yeah.
370
00:14:43,650 --> 00:14:44,883
It just became what it was.
371
00:14:44,918 --> 00:14:46,251
-[Tori] For what?
-Like recognizing
372
00:14:46,286 --> 00:14:47,752
-that you're different,
you're a dwarf.
-Oh, yes.
373
00:14:58,899 --> 00:15:00,398
[Tori] Lilah loved Michael.
374
00:15:01,735 --> 00:15:03,668
Lilah wants to be a part
of the boys
375
00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:05,570
-and, like, wants to do
what they are doing.
-Yes.
376
00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:10,475
-And she got excited about it.
-And she was with Jackson
all the time
377
00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:12,543
-and she's like,
"I want to do that."
-Yeah.
378
00:15:14,214 --> 00:15:15,914
[Michael screams] Maa!
379
00:15:19,619 --> 00:15:21,019
Can you go to Michael's
birthday party?
380
00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:21,986
You want to go
to Michael's birthday?
381
00:15:22,022 --> 00:15:23,254
Michael invited you
to his birthday?
382
00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:24,856
-Absolutely.
-It's a Batman party.
383
00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,824
-[Zach laughing]
-I didn't even know
he's having one.
384
00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:28,559
-...out.
-Yeah.
385
00:15:28,595 --> 00:15:29,594
Yeah, absolutely.
386
00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:32,630
[Mikey] You are invited 100%.
387
00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:35,133
[Zach] I was worried but once
they got together
388
00:15:35,168 --> 00:15:37,669
and got along so quickly,
I was relieved.
389
00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:39,137
So you want to have
a Batman party?
390
00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:41,172
And you invited Jackson?
391
00:15:41,207 --> 00:15:42,573
Okay.
392
00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:44,242
[Zach] They just gel
very well.
393
00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:45,209
[screams]
394
00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:47,845
[Jess] Look at them.
395
00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:55,420
[Chris speaking]
396
00:15:57,023 --> 00:15:58,690
[Amy] Does it not say in here?
397
00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:00,458
Like how big it is?
398
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,061
222 acres.
399
00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:04,629
-That's big.
-Yeah, that is kind of big.
400
00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:05,997
-Isn't it?
-It is.
401
00:16:06,032 --> 00:16:07,465
Because when you think
of the farm,
402
00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,802
where I lived and the 75 acres
where Matt lived,
403
00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,170
or he has it all now.
404
00:16:12,939 --> 00:16:14,639
Um, that's a 100.
405
00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:17,809
Well, we kind of need to talk
to him about pumpkin season.
406
00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:19,410
Whether you were gonna
be a part of it.
407
00:16:19,446 --> 00:16:22,613
Yeah. Before I commit to that
or figure that out...
408
00:16:23,917 --> 00:16:26,317
Um, I got to get
my head around it.
409
00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:28,353
Well, I have been thinking
about pumpkin season
410
00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:31,522
'cause I know it's coming
up here sooner than later
411
00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:35,159
and obviously, the north side
part of it is up for sale.
412
00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:37,228
So I don't know,
I just have to have
413
00:16:37,263 --> 00:16:40,698
a little bit more info as to
what does this year look like?
414
00:16:40,734 --> 00:16:41,866
What's changing?
415
00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:45,103
You know, what are the tour...
What is his gameplan?
416
00:16:45,138 --> 00:16:47,238
You know, he asked me
to do a tour
417
00:16:47,273 --> 00:16:48,906
that he had forgotten about
and stuff
418
00:16:48,942 --> 00:16:50,808
and I said, "Sure." You know,
"I'll go and do it."
419
00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,443
[Amy] We also heard from Matt
420
00:16:52,479 --> 00:16:54,712
that his dad had to go
in the hospital
421
00:16:54,748 --> 00:16:57,248
and he had a tour,
a private tour
422
00:16:57,283 --> 00:16:58,616
scheduled on the farm.
423
00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:01,252
So, you know, I definitely
said yes right away
424
00:17:01,287 --> 00:17:03,187
because, you know,
he's in Arizona
425
00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:04,822
attending a family matter.
426
00:17:04,858 --> 00:17:06,858
And, you know,
you just help out,
427
00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:09,027
regardless of what's going on.
428
00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:10,528
It's just what you do.
429
00:17:10,563 --> 00:17:13,064
But I tell you, I said "yes"
way too quick.
430
00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:15,333
-Hmm.
-Because I was like...
431
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,101
-"Okay, what do I
talk about now?"
-Hmm.
432
00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:21,305
It's been quite some time
since I've done a tour.
433
00:17:21,341 --> 00:17:23,174
Ever since I've moved off
the farm,
434
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,543
I kind of feel,
like, disconnected.
435
00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:28,079
Last year was my first time
doing the wagon tour,
436
00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,148
-first time I've volunteered.
-Ever participated.
437
00:17:30,183 --> 00:17:32,250
Yeah, participated in any
part of that.
438
00:17:32,285 --> 00:17:34,952
And definitely be open to
doing it again.
439
00:17:34,988 --> 00:17:36,921
Obviously this is our big
pumpkin area.
440
00:17:36,956 --> 00:17:39,724
-We've got several varieties
of pumpkins to choose from.
-[woman] Oh, oh!
441
00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:41,826
Is a pumpkin a fruit
or a vegetable?
442
00:17:43,163 --> 00:17:44,395
[woman laughs]
443
00:17:44,431 --> 00:17:45,730
Have you read the script?
444
00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:51,903
We just tweaked and critiqued
him a little bit but...
445
00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,038
-So harsh.
-I was not.
446
00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:56,074
He might have had a little
rough start
447
00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:58,709
but he did fantastic
the rest of the time.
448
00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:03,147
Yeah, if Matt needs help
with tours, you know,
449
00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:04,549
depending on what the tourists
look like,
450
00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,018
I'd be happy to help out
but, um...
451
00:18:07,954 --> 00:18:09,787
Yeah, I'm not sure...
452
00:18:09,823 --> 00:18:13,458
Pumpkin season's lost
it's lure for me now.
453
00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:15,960
Half of it up for sale,
it's like...
454
00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:18,563
I... I guess I'm afraid
of being asked
455
00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:19,897
so many questions.
"What do you think?"
456
00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:22,533
"Oh, it's so sad that
that part of the farm..."
457
00:18:22,569 --> 00:18:24,202
"It's not pumpkin
season anymore"
458
00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:25,803
-You know, whatever people...
-Mm-hmm.
459
00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,939
...may think.
460
00:18:27,974 --> 00:18:29,740
[Amy] I think what makes
pumpkin season
461
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:30,875
a little more unique
462
00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:34,479
is when there's some of
the family members involved
463
00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:37,548
but when you have
a rift in family,
464
00:18:37,584 --> 00:18:39,851
that doesn't always go away
right away.
465
00:18:39,886 --> 00:18:43,354
And so, when it's just another
pumpkin place,
466
00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:46,791
I just wonder how I could
fit in in the future.
467
00:18:46,826 --> 00:18:50,194
Regardless, I think you should
go and do your costume thing.
468
00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:52,430
Oh dear, oh dear.
469
00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:53,831
I think you're a big
part of it.
470
00:18:53,867 --> 00:18:56,367
-Oh dear, oh dear.
-I think you should be there.
471
00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:58,469
-I don't know.
-You know...
472
00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:01,439
[Chris] Well, if Amy is not up
for working at pumpkin season,
473
00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,541
I'd feel funny going there
without her.
474
00:19:03,576 --> 00:19:05,810
Um, I'm just doing it,
one, for the fun of it
475
00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:08,880
and two, something that
her and I can do together.
476
00:19:08,915 --> 00:19:11,949
But wouldn't be near as much
fun if Amy wasn't there.
477
00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:14,018
You being there
is a bigger part
478
00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:16,053
of it then me doing tours.
479
00:19:20,126 --> 00:19:21,058
[Amy speaking]
480
00:19:23,096 --> 00:19:24,996
[Zach] Yeah, the Witouses
are really positive people
481
00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:26,664
but they also have
been through a lot.
482
00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:29,433
Moments that are hard,
anniversaries, of course.
483
00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:32,236
-Like birthdays and stuff.
-The things you don't think of
before it happens.
484
00:19:46,586 --> 00:19:48,686
[Zach] Michael and Jackson
are playing great together.
485
00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:51,289
Yeah, I don't know. They just
read each other so well.
486
00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:52,890
It's nice when kids...
Forget the dwarfism.
487
00:19:52,926 --> 00:19:54,192
It's nice when kids
are on the same page.
488
00:19:54,227 --> 00:19:55,359
-[Jess] Yeah.
-Yeah.
489
00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:57,795
[Zach] Jackson is really
hitting it off with Michael
490
00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:00,498
who is Mikey and Jess'
only son.
491
00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:04,101
Um, it is awesome
when you have two, you know,
five, four-year-olds
492
00:20:04,137 --> 00:20:06,337
that get together,
that get along so well
493
00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:07,205
right off the bat.
494
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:11,842
How are you guys doing?
495
00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:14,779
Uh, we're good, like...
496
00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:19,016
You know, it's like
good for the most part.
497
00:20:19,052 --> 00:20:22,220
We have our resources,
our support that have
really helped us.
498
00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:25,022
-[Mikey] Losing [stutters]
a child, like it's...
-[Jessica] Losing ch-- yeah.
499
00:20:25,058 --> 00:20:29,227
There's mental, uh, grief
that everyone has
to go through.
500
00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:33,331
[Zach] Yeah, the Witous'
are really positive people.
501
00:20:33,366 --> 00:20:35,600
But they also have
been through a lot.
502
00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:39,337
Mikey and Jess
had two, um, daughters
503
00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:41,572
that died very, very early.
504
00:20:42,976 --> 00:20:45,676
[Jessica] Two years ago,
we found out
we were pregnant again.
505
00:20:45,712 --> 00:20:48,112
And then, at 18 weeks,
we learned that
506
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:51,949
there was a possibility
that the baby would have
double dominant dwarfism.
507
00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:54,785
We both have achondroplasia.
508
00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:57,488
So because we have
the same type of dwarfism,
509
00:20:57,523 --> 00:21:01,158
basically, it's kinda like
two dominant genes
fighting that,
510
00:21:01,194 --> 00:21:04,795
you know, one doesn't win.
And so their lungs
are under-developed,
511
00:21:04,831 --> 00:21:07,865
and there's some narrowing
of the, um, foramen magnum.
512
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,333
Yeah, even more narrowing
513
00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:10,768
-of the spinal columns, like.
-Yeah.
514
00:21:10,803 --> 00:21:14,272
Basically, every complication
that could happen
with achondroplasia
515
00:21:14,307 --> 00:21:16,807
-is made... made...
-Like magnified, yeah.
516
00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:19,243
[Mikey] Typically,
with like, achondroplasia
and double dominancy,
517
00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,913
the children only last, like,
seconds to minutes,
maybe even hours.
518
00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:27,251
[Zach] I didn't realize, like,
519
00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:35,192
like, the stories
are starting to come out.
520
00:21:35,228 --> 00:21:38,763
It is. It's 25% chance
that it can happen.
521
00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:41,399
Every time. It's not like,
oh, you had it once,
522
00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:43,434
-so you're not gonna
have it again.
-[Tori] Right.
523
00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:46,137
-It's 25% every time.
-[Zach] With any...
any couple that's,
524
00:21:46,172 --> 00:21:49,173
-has the same type
of dwarfism.
-Same type, yeah.
525
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:51,942
If there's two parents
with achondroplasia,
526
00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:55,579
there's a 50% chance
that your child will have
achondroplasia,
527
00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:58,983
there's a 25% chance
that your child will be
average height,
528
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:02,019
and there's a 25% chance
that your child will be born
with double dominance.
529
00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:04,889
[Zach] Can't imagine what
they're going through, like,
530
00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:07,825
going through the pregnancy,
going through all that
and then
531
00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:12,530
watching your baby, you know,
pass away. Um, can't imagine.
532
00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:18,235
It's more like
moments that are hard.
Anniversaries, of course,
533
00:22:18,271 --> 00:22:20,738
like birth dates
and stuff and um...
534
00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:23,074
-But... Yeah.
-Some things you don't
think of, like,
535
00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:24,075
before it happens.
536
00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:26,243
[Jessica] This is Margot Ann
537
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:28,713
and this is
Bernadette Suzanne.
538
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,115
Margot was with us
for two and a half months.
539
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:32,750
-Which is very--
-She even came home with us.
540
00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:36,887
She came home with us,
so her last three weeks,
she was home with us, um...
541
00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:41,125
Bernadette Suzanne is
our third and she, um,
542
00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,594
she lived four days.
543
00:22:43,629 --> 00:22:45,996
So, but we were able to
take her home again.
544
00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:48,099
Everyone thinks
of the big moments,
but it's like...
545
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,468
-[Jessica] It's a little...
-It's the little things. Like,
546
00:22:50,503 --> 00:22:52,970
oh, what would we be doing
547
00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:54,438
-if both girls--
-[Jessica] They were here.
548
00:22:54,474 --> 00:22:56,240
Or one of the girls
was here with us.
549
00:22:56,275 --> 00:22:58,376
And, like, I'm sure you guys
do the same thing.
550
00:22:58,411 --> 00:22:59,810
-Wh... Where would you be?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
551
00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:01,178
-[Mikey] Like, or what
would you be doing?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
552
00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:03,547
I mean, I don't know. [sighs]
553
00:23:03,583 --> 00:23:06,884
Credit God
and the hospital staff
for working with us
554
00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:09,420
and getting our girls
to come home.
555
00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:12,056
That's a miracle
in itself, you know.
556
00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:14,458
[Mikey] It was great
to have that moment.
557
00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:18,262
Um, and happy that Michael
got to meet his sisters.
558
00:23:18,297 --> 00:23:21,065
Nothing gives a reason
or makes it better but, um,
559
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:24,301
we like to think
we have two saints in heaven
560
00:23:24,337 --> 00:23:25,803
that are watching out for us.
561
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:33,444
[Tori] How's he been
with everything?
562
00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:34,912
-[Jessica] Pretty good, and--
-[Mikey] Yeah, he's...
563
00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:37,081
he's been good, he has...
he has his days where,
564
00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:39,850
like, he'll... he'll say
something that just, like,
565
00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:42,820
tugs at our heart strings,
like, "Oh, I wish
Bernie was here"
566
00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:44,688
or "I wish Margo was here",
but like,
567
00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:45,856
then like...
568
00:23:45,892 --> 00:23:47,725
-the next subject is like...
-He changes the subject.
569
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,561
"Can we watch, like, uh, TV?
Can we turn on the TV?"
570
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:54,598
-Are you guys... You'll...
You'll try again?
-[baby crying]
571
00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:56,734
-[Mikey] Yeah, we're--
-[Jessica] I mean,
that's the plan. I gotta...
572
00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:58,836
I still need
to do some healing,
some recovery.
573
00:23:58,871 --> 00:23:59,904
Yeah.
574
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:03,174
Physically and emotionally
and mentally. But um,
575
00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:04,475
yeah, I mean, that's our plan
576
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:08,779
is to grow our family.
So... we'll figure out a way.
577
00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:10,714
-[Zach] I think it's
super brave of them to...
-[Tori] Yeah.
578
00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:15,252
[Zach] ...even try
to have kids after
maybe at the first loss.
579
00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:19,323
People say, like [exhales]
you know, "Why do you
bring people into the world?"
580
00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:22,960
Like, they think it's not good
that we procreated
581
00:24:22,995 --> 00:24:27,865
and brought more dwarfs
into the world
to suffer, you know.
582
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,700
But I totally
disagree with that.
583
00:24:30,670 --> 00:24:32,703
I think people
with disabilities
584
00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:35,940
have a right to procreate
and have family.
585
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:37,842
You know, so.
586
00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:39,710
-[Jessica] How about
you guys, I mean?
-[Mikey] Yeah.
587
00:24:39,745 --> 00:24:42,513
-[bary
ou know.
588
00:24:42,548 --> 00:24:44,415
-[Tori] Just as what happened
with us last year?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
589
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:46,016
-[Mikey] Yeah.
-I mean, like,
590
00:24:46,052 --> 00:24:47,184
it's hard to, like,
sit and, like,
591
00:24:47,220 --> 00:24:48,452
talk to someone,
like, you know,
592
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:49,920
you guys have
been through so much.
593
00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:52,823
-And it was like... It was
like a traumatic experience...
-[Jessica] Yeah.
594
00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:54,358
...for sure,
but I think that, like,
595
00:24:56,329 --> 00:24:57,962
I don't know.
596
00:24:57,997 --> 00:24:59,864
-[Jessica] Well, that's
the thing. Like, don't ever...
-[Mikey] We won't downplay
597
00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:00,831
-your feelings.
-[Tori] Right.
598
00:25:00,867 --> 00:25:02,500
-Compare because--
-A loss is a loss.
599
00:25:02,535 --> 00:25:04,201
-[Tori] Totally.
-[Jessica] Yeah,
your loss is your loss.
600
00:25:04,237 --> 00:25:07,204
-And it's big and it's major.
-[Tori] I think that like,
for... for me,
601
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,039
what I think about everything
that happened was just
602
00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:10,441
-the way that it happened.
-[baby cooing]
603
00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:11,842
-[Jessica] Hmm.
-And like,
604
00:25:13,179 --> 00:25:16,714
you know, like, it was just--
it was really hard.
605
00:25:16,749 --> 00:25:21,585
But I mean, we were
so blessed to get Josiah.
606
00:25:21,621 --> 00:25:24,488
-I mean, like,
pretty quickly after.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
607
00:25:24,524 --> 00:25:26,524
Like it didn't take very long
for him to come along
608
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,127
and so, I think that
that helped our healing a lot.
609
00:25:31,497 --> 00:25:34,331
It was hard for me to compare
610
00:25:35,334 --> 00:25:37,468
-with Jess, like,
'cause I... this...
-Yeah...
611
00:25:37,503 --> 00:25:40,437
What they went through
was so significant
612
00:25:40,473 --> 00:25:43,073
and like, it doesn't discount
what we went through.
613
00:25:43,109 --> 00:25:46,310
However, it was hard for me
to connect on that level.
614
00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,712
Because it was like,
what do I have to
complain about
615
00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:52,016
when we're sitting there
with three healthy babies
that...
616
00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:55,085
they should be sitting there
with three healthy babies.
617
00:25:55,121 --> 00:25:57,721
The fact that you guys
have been so strong
in your faith
618
00:25:57,757 --> 00:26:01,058
and the fact that
you've been able to, like,
go through this twice,
619
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:02,660
-like, not just once.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
620
00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:06,730
But twice. The courage that
you guys have is unbelievable.
621
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:09,600
You... You become grateful
for the things you do have
622
00:26:09,635 --> 00:26:11,769
rather than focusing
on the things you don't have.
623
00:26:11,804 --> 00:26:13,904
Makes you be that much
more appreciative
624
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:18,842
of the fact that we have
Michael and that he's,
uh, fully healthy.
625
00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,945
-It's not an easy subject
to talk, like, you go over it.
-[Tori] It's not.
626
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,346
But it happens to so many.
627
00:26:22,381 --> 00:26:24,048
[Tori] So many, yeah.
628
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:26,250
And like, people
who haven't gone through it
629
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:29,520
are afraid to talk to people
who have, like, about it.
630
00:26:29,555 --> 00:26:31,655
'Cause like, they think that
they're gonna make
people sad, but it's like,
631
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:35,659
no, like, it's... it's a form
of therapy for parents
when they talk about it.
632
00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:38,629
It's been taboo for so long
to not talk about miscarriage
633
00:26:38,664 --> 00:26:40,998
and nottoalk about
losing children.
634
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:42,967
So I think that
when Mikey and Jess
635
00:26:43,002 --> 00:26:48,272
talk about losses, it makes
other people feel less alone.
636
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:54,011
It could be a healing
and an encouraging thing for
637
00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:56,280
them to see other couples
talking about it.
638
00:26:58,284 --> 00:26:59,550
Papa!
639
00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:05,789
[Tori] Coming up...
640
00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:06,690
[Zach] Are you ready?
641
00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:08,826
Set. Go.
642
00:27:08,861 --> 00:27:11,528
-[Mikey] Come on, bud, run.
-[all cheering]
643
00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:19,503
-[Tori] Okay.
-[Zach] All right,
let's go check it out.
644
00:27:19,538 --> 00:27:20,804
[baby cooing]
645
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,206
[woman cheers]
646
00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:24,074
[Zach] Come on, onward.
647
00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:27,077
[kid talking]
648
00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:30,914
The Witous' have
never been to Oregon
or the Northwest, really.
649
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:34,318
Um, so it's exciting
to bring them to, you know,
the Oregon beach.
650
00:27:34,353 --> 00:27:36,020
And yeah, show them
a little bit
651
00:27:36,055 --> 00:27:37,655
of our neck of the woods.
652
00:27:38,691 --> 00:27:39,757
Look what Jackson's doing.
653
00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:43,560
-[Mikey laughs]
-Oh, my God.
654
00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:48,966
-Yay!
-[Tori exclaiming]
655
00:27:50,503 --> 00:27:52,102
[Zach] Whoa, good job, bud.
656
00:27:52,138 --> 00:27:54,138
-Wa-wa.
-[gasps]
657
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,206
Was that your
favorite thing
at the beach?
658
00:27:56,242 --> 00:27:58,442
-Wa-wa.
-It was the wa-wa?
659
00:27:58,477 --> 00:27:59,576
What is your favorite?
660
00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:03,914
[cheering]
661
00:28:05,885 --> 00:28:08,686
[Zach] This age, this is like
the last years our kids
662
00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:10,554
before they become
aware of who they are.
663
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:12,990
There's like an ignorance.
664
00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:16,393
-Not an ignorance,
there's a child--
-[both] Innocence.
665
00:28:16,429 --> 00:28:19,897
It is just a thought I had
when I watched them
playing, and like,
666
00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:21,565
the older they get,
they're gonna start
667
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,701
realizing that the world maybe
looks at them differently
668
00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:24,835
or that they are different.
669
00:28:25,638 --> 00:28:27,271
He's unaware of who he is.
670
00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:29,840
And next summer
could be different.
671
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,609
And I think it's our job
to protect their innocence
672
00:28:32,645 --> 00:28:34,912
-as long as we possibly can.
-Yeah.
673
00:28:36,348 --> 00:28:39,283
I was telling Mikey how
it's their last years, like,
674
00:28:39,318 --> 00:28:41,819
they can run down the beach
and not think about, like,
675
00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:43,687
-who's looking at me,
who's staring, who's...
-Yeah.
676
00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:45,823
...making fun of my
waddle feet, you know.
677
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:47,191
I know.
678
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:51,161
And you want to, like...
You want them to, like,
keep that forever.
679
00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:54,465
Yeah, okay.
680
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,600
The confidence to just,
like, do whatever...
681
00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:57,968
-[Zach] Yes.
-Again, like, you know,
682
00:28:58,003 --> 00:28:59,436
"I can do this too."
683
00:28:59,472 --> 00:29:01,805
There's "What do you mean
I can't do this?"
684
00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:03,841
[Zach] They're both
the tallest, the fastest,
the smartest,
685
00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:05,109
the coolest kids in the room.
686
00:29:05,144 --> 00:29:06,610
-And they know it,
you know what I'm saying?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
687
00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:09,613
But then it's gonna like,
that, like, when
that hits them...
688
00:29:09,648 --> 00:29:11,448
Yeah, you go from the fastest
to the slowest.
689
00:29:11,484 --> 00:29:15,018
[Zach] Well, and there's
another additional challenge
that they're gonna face.
690
00:29:15,821 --> 00:29:17,387
I think it hit me earlier.
691
00:29:17,423 --> 00:29:18,655
I don't think
I had the confidence.
692
00:29:18,691 --> 00:29:21,925
I think already had, like,
a depreciatingness
about myself.
693
00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:25,395
Jackson, I just think
he has stronger confidence
in himself
694
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:28,799
that, uh, might just burst
his bubble even more. Or...
695
00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:30,801
I've also seen dwarves
that never lose it.
696
00:29:30,836 --> 00:29:33,370
Like, they're still,
"I'm the fastest
one in the room."
697
00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:35,405
I hope he doesn't lose it.
698
00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:37,541
But yeah, like,
do you remember
699
00:29:37,576 --> 00:29:39,309
-noticing the difference?
-[Zach] Oh, yeah.
700
00:29:39,345 --> 00:29:41,512
-It's during the PE classes--
-It was... I was
just gonna say
701
00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:43,547
I noticed it when
I was playing soccer
702
00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:46,784
that the kids were bigger.
And I was like, like I knew
I was a little person
703
00:29:46,819 --> 00:29:47,918
but like...
704
00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:49,787
I liked playing goalie,
and then, like, eventually,
705
00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:51,655
the goals were just the cones
706
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,357
-and then once we
went to, like, goals...
-Yeah.
707
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:56,093
-[Zach] Like, I was just
ushered out, you know.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
708
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,095
-If we were,
like, winning...
-Yeah.
709
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:00,664
...they'd, like, let me score
the goal and I was like,
"Thanks for the--"
710
00:30:00,699 --> 00:30:02,533
-Oh, I hated that.
I hated that.
-Thank you.
711
00:30:02,568 --> 00:30:03,567
-[Mikey] Thanks
for the handout.
-Whatever...
712
00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:05,803
Yeah, like, thanks
for the handout, but...
713
00:30:06,906 --> 00:30:08,372
That's what I always
try to, like, push, like,
714
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,874
I've tried parents who're,
like, asking, "Oh, what...
what can they do?"
715
00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:12,442
-Anything. Just let them
do anything.
-[Zach] Yeah.
716
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:16,146
So the base thing
I always, like, try to
717
00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:19,183
tell every child parents
that have a child
with dwarfism is, like,
718
00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:21,919
find a way to give them
the experience
of doing the things
719
00:30:21,954 --> 00:30:24,254
that they want and that they
seek enjoyment in.
720
00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:26,657
Uh, don't shelter them
from society.
721
00:30:26,692 --> 00:30:29,359
Let them be in society,
let them know what
society is like
722
00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:30,928
and how it will treat them,
723
00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:33,831
so that they're ready for it
when they become
an adult on their own.
724
00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:37,234
But until then,
725
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:39,336
let's give them
a good life and...
726
00:30:39,371 --> 00:30:41,138
we don't want them
to grow up too fast.
727
00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:47,377
I don't think there's one way
to prepare your kids to,
728
00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:51,148
you know, take on the world
that thinks they're different.
729
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,284
Just instilling confidence
and resilience in them,
730
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,821
when challenges come up,
will definitely address them,
you know.
731
00:31:00,426 --> 00:31:03,026
-[Tori] Who's more fast?
-[boy] Me.
732
00:31:03,062 --> 00:31:04,328
Do you guys wanna race?
733
00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:05,562
-[Zach] Jackson, Michael.
-[boy] Yeah.
734
00:31:05,598 --> 00:31:06,797
Let's do it.
735
00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:08,665
[boys exclaiming]
736
00:31:08,701 --> 00:31:10,801
-Here, grab like the other...
-I'm gonna grab the hoe.
737
00:31:10,836 --> 00:31:12,636
-[Zach] Jackson wants to race.
-[Tori] He's like,
I wanna race!
738
00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:13,804
-[Zach] Jackson--
-[Tori] He has testosterone,
739
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,839
-just raging through his body.
-[Zach] Yeah.
740
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,207
But that's not just
with Michael.
741
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:18,442
-That's with anyone
who comes in.
-No, that's with all the boys.
742
00:31:18,477 --> 00:31:21,511
That's like,
any boy who comes in,
he thinks he's faster.
743
00:31:22,815 --> 00:31:24,314
Jackson, Michael, come here.
744
00:31:26,719 --> 00:31:28,085
[woman giggles softly]
745
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,620
-[Mikey] You guys--
You guys are gonna have fun.
-[Zach] Okay...
746
00:31:29,655 --> 00:31:30,587
Michael, you ready?
747
00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:32,122
Set!
748
00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:34,024
Hey... Ready?
749
00:31:34,526 --> 00:31:35,659
Set! Go!
750
00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:36,827
-Go!
-Go!
751
00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:38,795
[dramatic music playing]
752
00:31:48,974 --> 00:31:50,807
[music intensifies and stops]
753
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:55,579
[Zach chuckling]
That was pretty even.
754
00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:56,413
[Mikey] Yeah.
755
00:31:57,182 --> 00:31:58,248
[Zach] Who was faster?
756
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:01,952
Are you sure you were faster?
757
00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:05,422
Give him high-five.
758
00:32:06,225 --> 00:32:08,158
Now Zach and Mikey!
759
00:32:08,193 --> 00:32:09,760
[Zach] When Tori said,
Mikey and Zach race,
760
00:32:09,795 --> 00:32:10,861
I was like, "Oh, heck yeah."
761
00:32:10,896 --> 00:32:12,863
No, I was totally into it.
I'm super competitive.
762
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,298
Let's go.
763
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:16,099
[upbeat music playing]
764
00:32:19,939 --> 00:32:23,640
-[women cheering]
-[men chuckling]
765
00:32:23,676 --> 00:32:25,676
[Mikey] I could've
knocked you down.
766
00:32:25,711 --> 00:32:26,877
Did you pull anything?
767
00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:28,578
Yeah, but what was that?
Who won?
768
00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:30,414
-I don't know.
-[all chuckle]
769
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:32,749
Who do you think won?
770
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:35,752
Argh!
771
00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:37,020
-Probably was.
-That's a good answer.
772
00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:38,155
I'll take a tie! [chuckles]
773
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:39,656
You're both winners.
774
00:32:39,692 --> 00:32:41,124
[Tori] You're both
winners in our hearts.
775
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,494
[Zach] Best part about
the Witous' visit was
776
00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:46,530
-the beach day
was a lot of fun.
-Mm-hmm.
777
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:48,899
Catchin' up with Mikey
and Jess was a lot of fun too.
778
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,702
-[Tori] The kids rallying.
-[Zach] The most was just
watching Michael and Jackson
779
00:32:51,737 --> 00:32:53,670
-rally and...
-And he did an awesome job.
780
00:32:53,706 --> 00:32:55,872
-I think that he was
a great friend to Michael.
-Yeah.
781
00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:58,208
Lilah, smile! Say cheese!
782
00:33:01,647 --> 00:33:02,579
[narrator] Coming up...
783
00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:05,015
[whistles]
784
00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:07,084
Well, you know,
one of the things
my dad said was,
785
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,686
"I just want everybody
in the family to get along."
786
00:33:09,722 --> 00:33:13,724
Those were powerful words,
so I got a lot of work to do.
787
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,459
Zach and Tori said
they needed space,
788
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,961
but I'm gonna
try to work constantly on
789
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:19,796
making sure that
the family gets along.
790
00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:47,858
[whistles]
791
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:54,431
[Matt] Caryn and I
were down in Arizona,
792
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,767
um, 'cause my dad was getting
more and more ill.
793
00:33:56,802 --> 00:34:02,506
And, um, after puttin' up
a very big fight,
for several weeks,
794
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:06,243
uh, he finally succumbed
to his lung issues.
795
00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:10,414
Um... And he
passed away peacefully.
796
00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:11,782
[sniffles]
797
00:34:16,121 --> 00:34:18,588
I'm just glad
we got down there
when we did.
798
00:34:18,624 --> 00:34:20,424
I thought he was gonna
[chuckles] walk out of it.
799
00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:24,227
And then there was a point,
when, like, "Uh-oh!"
800
00:34:25,264 --> 00:34:27,397
Yeah, it's...
a chance he might not.
801
00:34:27,433 --> 00:34:30,500
And then...
And then the next day
it would be like...
802
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:33,703
[stutters] You know,
going good.
803
00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:35,972
Yeah,
the roller-coaster of it.
804
00:34:37,276 --> 00:34:38,141
[sighs softly]
805
00:34:40,846 --> 00:34:42,512
Very nice,
that all of you were...
806
00:34:43,615 --> 00:34:47,017
Kids... flew there
to say their goodbyes.
807
00:34:47,052 --> 00:34:48,418
That meant a lot to me,
808
00:34:48,454 --> 00:34:49,920
and I'm sure
it meant a lot to him.
809
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:56,960
Towards the end when we knew
things looked more dire. I...
810
00:34:56,995 --> 00:34:59,729
uh... notified everybody.
All the kids.
811
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,901
And, um... they... um...
812
00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:09,072
Yeah, they all came in.
813
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:11,541
They...
814
00:35:12,811 --> 00:35:14,911
simply all dropped everything.
815
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,081
When it mattered most,
we can all
816
00:35:18,117 --> 00:35:20,117
not get along for this, that,
or the other thing,
817
00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,284
But when the... when the
818
00:35:22,054 --> 00:35:23,887
crap hit the fan,
819
00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:28,058
within hours,
they were... in my dad's...
by my dad's side.
820
00:35:29,495 --> 00:35:31,461
A... And all of them
were able to be there.
821
00:35:31,497 --> 00:35:32,829
[gulping]
822
00:35:32,865 --> 00:35:36,733
And then, you know, Jeremy,
Zachary, Molly, Jacob,
and then...
823
00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:40,370
You know, 'course my mom--
mother was there and um...
824
00:35:40,405 --> 00:35:42,906
So, um, it was...
825
00:35:42,941 --> 00:35:45,108
You know, we were there
by his side.
826
00:35:47,513 --> 00:35:49,546
[choking up]
827
00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:54,885
[sniffles softly]
828
00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:01,124
Oh, I'm sorry.
I know this is hard for you.
829
00:36:04,163 --> 00:36:06,429
I just figured that
they were gonna...
830
00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:08,732
You know, we were gonna
get more time with them
down there... I mean,
831
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:12,569
they just barely
got settled in Arizona.
832
00:36:12,604 --> 00:36:16,039
My parents decided to
seek warmer ground
833
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:17,307
so they moved down to Arizona,
834
00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:21,211
and they happened to land
about a mile and a half--
835
00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:23,680
two miles maybe,
from Caryn's parents.
836
00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:26,383
Caryn's parents helped them
acclimate to the-- to the area
837
00:36:26,418 --> 00:36:28,351
and get to know people.
838
00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:31,421
I was lookin' forward to,
you know, all the time
we were gonna be able
839
00:36:31,456 --> 00:36:32,756
to spend with them down there.
840
00:36:32,791 --> 00:36:35,158
And, um... it just kind of...
841
00:36:36,195 --> 00:36:37,727
You know,
you feel a little bit,
842
00:36:37,763 --> 00:36:39,930
you feel a little bit robbed.
843
00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:41,765
Yeah, we took 'em
to the movies, remember?
844
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,334
-[Matt] Yeah, we took 'em
to the movies. Yeah.
-[Caryn chuckles]
845
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:47,237
-[Matt] That was good. Yeah.
-That was adorable,
watchin' them holdin' hands.
846
00:36:48,207 --> 00:36:50,674
[melancholy music playing]
847
00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:52,409
Boy, he sure loved my mother.
848
00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:54,211
[Caryn] Mm-hmm.
849
00:36:54,246 --> 00:36:57,581
You know that... She's strong,
but you know, she's...
850
00:36:57,616 --> 00:37:00,350
Definitely havin' to
re-figure out what she can do
851
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:01,885
and what she can't do and...
852
00:37:03,055 --> 00:37:04,254
-[sighing] Yeah.
-Um...
853
00:37:05,157 --> 00:37:06,990
My mother is doing good,
854
00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:09,025
but she also
doesn't have him there
855
00:37:09,061 --> 00:37:10,126
as a safety net.
856
00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:12,996
He doted on my mom,
and one of his...
857
00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:16,733
one of his last words
to me was,
858
00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:19,202
"You know,
I really spoiled your mom.
859
00:37:19,238 --> 00:37:21,805
And so, now,
I really need to look...
860
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,806
look to you to...
861
00:37:22,841 --> 00:37:25,508
look to me
to help take care of her
862
00:37:25,544 --> 00:37:29,479
and make sure she, you know,
lives a comfortable,
happy life." So um...
863
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:31,748
And I told him I had...
would have that under control.
864
00:37:33,085 --> 00:37:34,684
[Caryn] I loved your dad.
He was a great guy.
865
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:38,722
He was very... positive and...
866
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,290
[Matt] Mm-hmm.
867
00:37:40,325 --> 00:37:43,193
Um... He's gonna be missed,
for sure.
868
00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:44,294
-[sniffles]
-[Matt] Mm-hmm.
869
00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:48,298
He lived life large, you know,
no doubt about that.
870
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:51,501
My dad was sort of a...
larger than life character,
871
00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:54,971
and, um, my dad
had a pretty good
sense of humor,
872
00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:57,340
and, you know, he gave me
a hard time sometimes.
873
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:00,143
My dad had no fear
to say what was on his mind,
874
00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:01,745
and... he'd
tell it like it is.
875
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:05,649
You're... You're
buildin' a house for whom?
876
00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:07,484
-For these grandbabies
that we're talkin' about.
-You guys gonna get married?
877
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,252
-What's the deal here?
-[chuckling]
878
00:38:09,288 --> 00:38:12,722
-How can you have a home
without a wife?
-[chuckles]
879
00:38:12,758 --> 00:38:15,525
He had a big person...
"I love people."
880
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,495
He never met a person
that he didn't, you know,
881
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:21,097
wanna visit with
and learn about.
882
00:38:21,133 --> 00:38:24,034
-Great to see you, Papa.
Thanks for drivin' up.
-[laughing with joy]
883
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:25,769
-Wanna say, "Hi!"?
-Lilah, good to see...
884
00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:27,003
-[softly] Hey! Hey!
-[Tori] Is he...
885
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:28,038
[woman] Lilah Ray!
886
00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:30,140
Hey! Not too many
guys to say I...
887
00:38:30,175 --> 00:38:32,776
I've snuggled with
my great grandpa.
888
00:38:32,811 --> 00:38:34,711
Okay! Here we come! Oh!
889
00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:38,348
[all laughing]
890
00:38:38,383 --> 00:38:40,950
He led a really good life.
891
00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:43,053
And... Uh, he made
a big impact
892
00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:45,055
on a lot of people,
so it was um...
893
00:38:45,791 --> 00:38:47,223
But it's never easy.
894
00:38:47,259 --> 00:38:49,893
It's always kinda hard
to say goodbye to somebody,
895
00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:52,629
here on Earth,
but, um, I think,
896
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:55,999
you know, we can...
rest assured that he's
897
00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,834
um... in a better place.
898
00:38:57,869 --> 00:38:59,736
So I'm comforted by that.
899
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:03,340
I don't know
if I told you this, but...
900
00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:05,608
couple of days
before he passed,
he made some
901
00:39:07,245 --> 00:39:08,812
private comments to me.
902
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:12,349
He wanted everybody to...
everybody to love each other.
903
00:39:13,819 --> 00:39:17,487
One of the things my dad said
in his final hours or days,
904
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,956
was, "I just want everybody
in the family to get along."
905
00:39:19,991 --> 00:39:22,225
You know,
and I want the same thing.
906
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:24,994
And it's not just me and them.
It's everybody.
907
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:27,397
So, all you can do is
make sure that
908
00:39:27,432 --> 00:39:31,000
you don't bring
any additional negativity
to the table.
909
00:39:32,404 --> 00:39:35,071
Sometimes things just
take time, you know, and...
910
00:39:35,107 --> 00:39:36,873
I'm being respectful
of the fact that
911
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:38,742
Zach and Tori
said they needed space,
912
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:40,844
but I'm gonna try
to work constantly
913
00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:42,879
on making sure that
the family gets along.
914
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:47,217
He always wanted everybody
to get along.
915
00:39:47,252 --> 00:39:51,421
Those were powerful words that
I have embedded in my head.
916
00:39:51,456 --> 00:39:53,656
So, I got a lot of work to do.
917
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,827
[somber instrumental
music playing]
918
00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:06,436
-[upbeat music playing]
-[narrator] Next on
Little People, Big World...
919
00:40:06,471 --> 00:40:08,204
[Chris] We are
turning the big six-o.
920
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,672
I know, the big 6-0.
921
00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:12,709
So, are we on agreement of
doing a... little celebration.
922
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:14,711
Yeah, I think we said
we were gonna do that.
923
00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:16,112
-Yeah.
-Oh, okay.
924
00:40:16,148 --> 00:40:19,082
I've told Chris that,
"Yeah, sure. We can have
a joint birthday party."
925
00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:21,351
What Chris doesn't know
is that I'm working on
926
00:40:21,386 --> 00:40:24,421
a surprise birthday party
that's just for him.
927
00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:25,555
It's nerve-wracking,
928
00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:27,624
I find anxiety and just...
929
00:40:27,659 --> 00:40:28,892
casually find out...
930
00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:29,959
Does have a clue?
931
00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:31,928
So, I' really gonna
have to work hard
932
00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:33,463
to be able to pull this off.
933
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,368
Jackson! You got
your very own bridge?
934
00:40:38,403 --> 00:40:42,071
Feeling reflective
on my dad passing away.
935
00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:43,606
And with all the kids,
936
00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:45,341
I'm re-doubling my efforts
937
00:40:45,377 --> 00:40:48,378
to check in on 'em all
as often as possible.
938
00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:50,480
Look at that little Josiah.
939
00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:53,049
We want him to be...
Have a relationship with
his grandkids and all that,
940
00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:55,618
but we wish things didn't go
the way they did.
941
00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:58,655
I'm so glad I got to come up
and see your farm.
942
00:40:58,690 --> 00:40:59,989
[Zach] Sometimes,
things can be awkward
943
00:41:00,025 --> 00:41:01,491
but that's what's
to be expected
944
00:41:01,526 --> 00:41:02,725
with where
our relationship's at.
945
00:41:09,568 --> 00:41:11,000
-[indistinct chatter]
-Hey, guys! They're here!
946
00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:12,769
-[woman] They're pulling in...
-They're here, you guys!
947
00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:14,704
-Quiet! [shushes]
-[indistinct chatter]
948
00:41:14,739 --> 00:41:16,306
Walkin' up to the venue,
949
00:41:16,341 --> 00:41:18,708
I... I mean,
I really got, like, nervous.
950
00:41:18,743 --> 00:41:21,144
[chuckling] I have not
pulled this off yet,
951
00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:22,979
until I see
the look on his face
952
00:41:23,014 --> 00:41:25,181
and is he actually surprised?