1 00:00:03,378 --> 00:00:04,963 [chime] 2 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:07,465 Tonight, the reunion concludes. 3 00:00:07,507 --> 00:00:10,552 Heather, like seeing you wake and bake mushrooms, I mean. 4 00:00:10,635 --> 00:00:12,178 Who are you? 5 00:00:12,303 --> 00:00:14,848 Does anyone still have their painted dick from Amsterdam? 6 00:00:14,931 --> 00:00:15,974 I just have a broken dick, 7 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:17,767 that's all. [laughs] 8 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:20,770 Katie, we have a conversation we need to have. 9 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:23,273 Because when I was in the trailer, I got a call. 10 00:00:23,398 --> 00:00:24,816 - Oh, my God. - I felt badly 11 00:00:24,899 --> 00:00:26,651 - for Gina. As her friend-- - Why do you have 12 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,278 to be an asshole all the time? 13 00:00:28,403 --> 00:00:29,320 You're an asshole all the time. 14 00:00:29,487 --> 00:00:30,655 You want to talk about an asshole 15 00:00:30,739 --> 00:00:31,823 all the time? That's you. 16 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:33,366 But the post came from somewhere. 17 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:36,077 A lot of accounts, these posts were tied to Tamra. 18 00:00:36,161 --> 00:00:37,912 I'm gonna show you an interaction 19 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:39,581 after cameras went down. 20 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:45,337 That's insane. 21 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:46,254 I didn't do this! 22 00:00:46,338 --> 00:00:47,505 I fucked up! 23 00:00:47,547 --> 00:00:49,007 This is life destroying. 24 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:50,967 - I didn't do this. - Okay. 25 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:53,887 We are not... playing a game of survivor. 26 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:57,265 And this is bullshit and this is an ambush. 27 00:00:57,390 --> 00:00:58,350 This has got to stop. 28 00:00:58,516 --> 00:01:01,227 This is not what this show's about. 29 00:01:01,686 --> 00:01:05,190 [upbeat music] 30 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:06,483 Welcome back to 31 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:08,777 The Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion. 32 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:14,032 From exotic locales such as Amsterdam to New Orleans, 33 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:15,950 to Heather Dubrow's penthouse... 34 00:01:16,034 --> 00:01:17,702 - Hmm. - ...the Orange County women 35 00:01:17,827 --> 00:01:21,873 were elite in the art of tripping, so to speak. 36 00:01:21,956 --> 00:01:25,960 Especially when space cakes and mushrooms were on the menu. 37 00:01:26,044 --> 00:01:28,380 I love this. Watch. 38 00:01:30,882 --> 00:01:32,884 Girls' trip, number one priority. 39 00:01:32,967 --> 00:01:34,219 - Ah! - Cheers! 40 00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:35,720 Show me your tits! 41 00:01:35,804 --> 00:01:36,680 Is to have fun. 42 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:37,972 [creepy music playing] 43 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:39,891 - I baptize you in the name of- - Emily. 44 00:01:39,974 --> 00:01:41,559 I'm not vibin' with the voodoo. 45 00:01:41,685 --> 00:01:44,145 - Aye-ee bah-bo! - I like to be spanked. 46 00:01:44,229 --> 00:01:46,356 - Good evening. - Oh, put your dick away. 47 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:49,192 Do we need to say it in front of the waiter? 48 00:01:49,317 --> 00:01:51,695 - Bottoms up. - Chew it up. Shoot 'er back. 49 00:01:51,778 --> 00:01:54,030 I think I do feel these mushrooms. 50 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:57,534 - A gummy is five milligrams. - Just take a bite. 51 00:01:57,575 --> 00:01:59,244 [psychedelic music] 52 00:01:59,285 --> 00:02:00,912 [voice echoing]: Come in here. 53 00:02:00,995 --> 00:02:03,331 This is a little creepy for me. 54 00:02:03,915 --> 00:02:05,333 Wait, that was her face! 55 00:02:05,417 --> 00:02:07,627 [screaming] 56 00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:09,587 This is a house of horrors! 57 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:11,381 [loud band music] 58 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:13,341 Sometimes moms need a night out and it's not a night 59 00:02:13,383 --> 00:02:15,385 to remember. Maybe it's just a night to forget. 60 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:16,803 [laughs] 61 00:02:16,886 --> 00:02:18,680 Am I gonna be looking at your vagina all night? 62 00:02:18,763 --> 00:02:20,223 That's the point. I'm just kidding. 63 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:21,516 [laughs] 64 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:23,601 This is exhausting. Is it time to go home now? 65 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:24,978 I'm ready to go home now. 66 00:02:25,061 --> 00:02:26,521 Aw, that was cute. 67 00:02:26,604 --> 00:02:29,149 It was fun seeing you all have fun. 68 00:02:29,274 --> 00:02:32,819 And I have to say, Shannon, when you were sitting there 69 00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:34,487 and you thought you heard the theme song 70 00:02:34,571 --> 00:02:35,905 for the show. - It was! 71 00:02:35,989 --> 00:02:37,407 Was it, guys? 72 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:39,200 [singing theme song] I don't think it was. 73 00:02:40,952 --> 00:02:42,287 I couldn't hear it. She kept singing it. 74 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:44,456 - No. - But it didn't. 75 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:45,999 It was, you guys! 76 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:47,292 - Ask production. - Sure. 77 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:50,920 That was the Real Housewives music, wasn't it? 78 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:52,464 Am I tripping? 79 00:02:52,547 --> 00:02:53,882 Just tell me it was the music, right? 80 00:02:53,923 --> 00:02:55,050 Yes. 81 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:57,218 Come on, you're screwing with me. 82 00:02:57,302 --> 00:02:58,553 She thought she asked production, 83 00:02:58,636 --> 00:03:00,013 she asked the plant in the corner. 84 00:03:00,096 --> 00:03:01,556 [laughter] 85 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,894 Shannon, have you ever eaten that much 86 00:03:05,977 --> 00:03:07,771 - space cake before? - I've never had 87 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:09,314 - a space cake before. - Oh, really? 88 00:03:09,397 --> 00:03:10,732 - No. - It's so good for her though. 89 00:03:10,815 --> 00:03:11,983 Was it fun? 90 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:13,401 I, well then they said like-- 91 00:03:13,526 --> 00:03:14,986 We feel like she'd eat them a lot. 92 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:16,446 Tamra said... no! 93 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:19,157 Tamra said when you eat it, like in a muffin, 94 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,952 it stays with your body, and I felt like it stayed... 95 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:24,412 a while. 96 00:03:24,496 --> 00:03:27,082 I love that Shannon's... when she's on pot. 97 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:29,918 What is this? What is this noise? 98 00:03:32,671 --> 00:03:34,547 What person? 99 00:03:36,174 --> 00:03:39,177 What is she talking about, someone special? 100 00:03:42,263 --> 00:03:43,848 Did you eat it? 101 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:46,685 [laughs] 102 00:03:46,851 --> 00:03:49,312 She needs to eat space cakes daily. 103 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:54,359 It's so funny seeing all of your evolution over the years. 104 00:03:54,484 --> 00:03:56,319 And I mean, I'm looking at you, Shannon. 105 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:59,072 And Heather, like seeing you wake and bake mushrooms, 106 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:01,950 you're like, oh yeah, oh we're going to the tulip fields? 107 00:04:02,033 --> 00:04:04,828 Here we go. I mean, I just loved it. 108 00:04:04,911 --> 00:04:07,455 - When did that happen? - You know, my kids are... 109 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:08,873 older and you know, - Gone, yeah. 110 00:04:08,957 --> 00:04:11,126 gotta have a little fun. Why not? 111 00:04:11,209 --> 00:04:14,004 - Right. Anna in Fort Wayne, IN said Shannon, Gretchen, 112 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:17,716 and Tamra seemed like the only thing any of you agreed on 113 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:20,635 this year was not wanting to have any part in voodoo. 114 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:23,430 Are we sure this isn't the first sign of the apocalypse? 115 00:04:23,471 --> 00:04:26,016 When we heard stories later on that 116 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:27,892 Heather had all these things happen. 117 00:04:28,018 --> 00:04:29,227 - She ripped it apart--- - What? 118 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:30,603 ...and threw 'em out in different trashcans. 119 00:04:30,687 --> 00:04:32,022 - Oh yeah. - As soon as I heard 120 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:33,606 you have to feed it, I'm like okay, 121 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:34,941 I'm gonna screw it up the first night. 122 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:36,818 - I had bad things happen. 123 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:39,571 And she told us that if you want to get rid of it, 124 00:04:39,612 --> 00:04:41,656 you can't just throw it away. 125 00:04:41,823 --> 00:04:44,492 I broke that thing up. I put it in separate trashcans. 126 00:04:44,534 --> 00:04:46,244 - No way! - Because I was thinking about 127 00:04:46,327 --> 00:04:47,787 those movies where all the pieces come back together. 128 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:49,205 Part went down the trash chute. 129 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:50,749 - Oh, my gosh. - Part went over here, 130 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:52,083 - part went over there. Gone. - Wow. 131 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:53,960 Jenn was very into it. And she was feeding it 132 00:04:54,044 --> 00:04:56,087 and talking to it. - I still feed her. 133 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,715 Tonight I made us sleepy time tea 134 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:00,425 because we're gonna sleep very good tonight. 135 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:04,512 We're gonna wake up tomorrow and you are going to do your job 136 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:08,641 and bring us a lot of financial opportunities. 137 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:13,646 That is for you. 138 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:18,234 And then let's go night night. 139 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:20,403 Don't break your twig arm. 140 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:21,529 Honest to God. 141 00:05:21,613 --> 00:05:22,697 You still have your voodoo doll? 142 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:24,115 What do you mean, feed her? 143 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:25,617 Like, if I'm having my coffee in the morning 144 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:27,327 and I think about it, I spit coffee in her. 145 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:30,163 Hawk-tuah. Spit it right in the top of it. 146 00:05:30,246 --> 00:05:32,374 Can you do a picture and put it on your social media, please? 147 00:05:32,457 --> 00:05:34,334 - We need to see that. - Yes. Yes. 148 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:35,669 Katie, Philip in Cleveland 149 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:38,463 said you didn't know England was an island. 150 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:40,215 I didn't. 151 00:05:40,256 --> 00:05:42,008 You didn't know where the Mississippi River is. 152 00:05:42,092 --> 00:05:46,137 Can you name the two oceans the United States are flanked by? 153 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:49,099 The Pacific and the Atlantic. But let me just say... 154 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:51,142 - That would be bad. - ...that when we were on 155 00:05:51,226 --> 00:05:53,269 the boat. And I was looking for the river, it doesn't 156 00:05:53,311 --> 00:05:54,896 name it. And I actually went back, it doesn't say. 157 00:05:54,979 --> 00:05:56,272 I kept being like, what river are we on? 158 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:58,858 - I had no clue. - Yeah, I had no clue either. 159 00:05:58,983 --> 00:06:01,903 Does anyone still have their painted dick from Amsterdam? 160 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:04,030 - No. - I think that was left behind. 161 00:06:04,114 --> 00:06:06,324 - I think I left mine behind. - It was. 162 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:07,534 I just have a broken dick, that's all. 163 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:09,452 - Good one, Gretchen. - Thanks. 164 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:11,788 I just want to say one last thing which is, 165 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,792 I thought it was very moving seeing you reconcile 166 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:17,377 your past with your dad. 167 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:18,878 - I was in tears. - And the ashes. 168 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:21,840 [somber music] 169 00:06:21,923 --> 00:06:23,633 Bye, Dad. 170 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:26,344 And I just thought that was a beautiful moment. 171 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:28,054 - So beautiful. - To be able to do that, 172 00:06:28,138 --> 00:06:30,181 and where you did it. And that must have been 173 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:31,433 a little closure for you. 174 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:34,602 It so was. You know, it started off being like, yeah, 175 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:36,479 I should do this thing. Okay, I should do this. 176 00:06:36,563 --> 00:06:39,482 And it... it was just so crazy. 177 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:41,151 And obviously you didn't see the whole thing 178 00:06:41,276 --> 00:06:44,362 but I told my dad like, how my mom is doing. 179 00:06:44,446 --> 00:06:46,031 - Oh. - And my kids. 180 00:06:46,114 --> 00:06:50,618 Everyone's good. Ace is going into high school. He's happy. 181 00:06:50,702 --> 00:06:53,038 He's good, he's got friends. 182 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:57,459 And you probably, I don't even know 183 00:06:57,542 --> 00:06:59,669 what you remember her like. 184 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:02,589 Cooking in her little kitchen. She's going to Yale. 185 00:07:02,714 --> 00:07:06,676 Max is studying in Paris and she has a cat named Vincent, 186 00:07:06,843 --> 00:07:08,345 who weirdly has your eyes. 187 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:11,222 Nicky is doing great. Got his real estate license. 188 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:13,641 He's going to work in hospitality this summer. 189 00:07:14,893 --> 00:07:17,562 They're all really good. You'd be really... 190 00:07:19,606 --> 00:07:23,860 You know, he doesn't, he didn't know, especially Ace and-- 191 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:25,195 He knows. 192 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:27,113 I don't know if you know this, but my mother recently 193 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:28,990 - moved to Los Angeles. - No! 194 00:07:29,115 --> 00:07:31,117 - She did. - Oh, yes. 195 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:33,119 - I know. - Season 20. Anyway. 196 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:35,705 Yes, I had to explain to him 197 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:37,957 - what's going on with her. - She is. 198 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:40,335 And everything. So, it was cathartic. It felt so good. 199 00:07:40,418 --> 00:07:42,087 And I have to say thank you again to Emily. 200 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:45,256 We had the best conversation right before about our parents, 201 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:48,176 our upbringing, our parenting styles, our children. 202 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:50,303 - And we had so many... - Mm-hmm. 203 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:53,181 ...similarities. And then, to be able to just sit there 204 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:56,184 - and do that, it was amazing. - I wish we could've 205 00:07:56,226 --> 00:07:58,311 - all been there. - That's great. It was great. 206 00:07:58,395 --> 00:08:01,981 This season ended on a dark and dramatic note, to say the least. 207 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:04,693 I want to start with the emotional final dinner 208 00:08:04,776 --> 00:08:07,654 in Amsterdam, where you all confronted Gretchen 209 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:10,448 about her alleged social media activity. 210 00:08:10,532 --> 00:08:14,536 You are intentionally liking hate rhetoric. 211 00:08:14,619 --> 00:08:16,079 I don't know that I was doing that 212 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:17,664 - so that's why I'm asking. - You did that. 213 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:21,251 Gretchen, your immediate excuse about liking these posts 214 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:23,086 was to say, if I liked something, I probably 215 00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:25,338 didn't know what it was about and that you weren't 216 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,674 paying attention to what you were liking. 217 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:30,218 What did you mean by that? 218 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:34,139 Um... well, listen, 219 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:36,516 I just want to make it clear that there's absolutely 220 00:08:36,599 --> 00:08:41,521 no excuse for liking anything that has any sort of offensive, 221 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:45,650 you know, sentiment to it. 222 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:47,277 And I also want to make it very clear 223 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,945 to every single one of you here, 224 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:54,784 that I completely denounce anything that it seems 225 00:08:54,826 --> 00:08:57,120 homophobic, or transphobic, or anything like that. 226 00:08:57,162 --> 00:08:59,998 I was very confused. 227 00:09:00,081 --> 00:09:03,126 I was in shock by what was being brought forward to me. 228 00:09:03,168 --> 00:09:05,962 Did you recognize any of the posts that you saw? 229 00:09:06,129 --> 00:09:07,756 - No. No. - You didn't. 230 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:09,466 Which posts are we talking about? 231 00:09:09,507 --> 00:09:11,259 The pedophilia one. 232 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:13,303 But you followed that account. 233 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:15,305 I know, you said that I followed that account. 234 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:20,101 But at the end of the day, you know, I think we've all been 235 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:24,105 guilty of scrolling, you know, mindlessly at night. 236 00:09:24,189 --> 00:09:25,982 And I might have seen something and I liked it, 237 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:29,486 not really looking at the content of the post or whatnot. 238 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,197 I get that, but when you have a good friend 239 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:35,283 that's sitting across the table from you, who's so emotional 240 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:36,701 and so invested in this, 241 00:09:36,785 --> 00:09:39,245 and really does not want this to be true... 242 00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:41,373 - Yes. - I get it that you were shocked 243 00:09:41,456 --> 00:09:44,084 and all this, but that was surprising to me. 244 00:09:44,167 --> 00:09:46,127 That the girls had to say, "Go after Heather." 245 00:09:46,252 --> 00:09:48,588 I legitimately was like wait, 246 00:09:48,672 --> 00:09:50,507 are they serious? Like, they're actually saying this? 247 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,008 Because I knew fundamentally, 248 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:53,760 that is not what I believed or who I was. 249 00:09:53,802 --> 00:09:55,136 There was just-- Or who I've ever been 250 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:56,596 in my life. 251 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,264 So, you didn't know you were following all these 252 00:09:58,348 --> 00:10:00,392 - hate accounts? - There was just so many. 253 00:10:00,475 --> 00:10:01,810 - No, no, no. - It wasn't one. 254 00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:03,436 One, I would've rolled my eyes. 255 00:10:03,478 --> 00:10:05,146 The way that it was presented to me... 256 00:10:05,188 --> 00:10:07,107 - Right, it's 200. - No, I followed a lot. 257 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:08,692 There were 200 on that feed? 258 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:12,153 She followed, she unfollowed over 200 accounts 259 00:10:12,237 --> 00:10:13,363 when she got back from Amsterdam. 260 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,657 But how do you know they're all-- 261 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:17,117 And you know they were all hate accounts? 262 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,327 - Yes. - I mean, listen, 263 00:10:19,411 --> 00:10:21,037 I gravely apologize if I liked something 264 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:23,540 that was offensive or something like that. 265 00:10:23,581 --> 00:10:27,002 But I will say, that one post that was brought forward, 266 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:33,133 it was very... upsetting and very suspect to me. 267 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:34,676 It doesn't align with who I am. 268 00:10:34,718 --> 00:10:36,011 Then why would you follow a guy like that? 269 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:38,221 Because that's all he does is post stuff like that. 270 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:41,558 Right. And so, I took steps to go and look at 271 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,270 who I was following. Because I had over 4,500 272 00:10:45,353 --> 00:10:46,604 accounts or something I was following. 273 00:10:46,688 --> 00:10:48,440 - Okay. - And you know what? 274 00:10:48,565 --> 00:10:50,984 Maybe that's my mistake, that I had been following 275 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:54,070 a lot of accounts that I really didn't know exactly everything 276 00:10:54,195 --> 00:10:55,321 that they were posting. 277 00:10:55,447 --> 00:10:57,282 I followed a lot of left wing accounts. 278 00:10:57,365 --> 00:10:59,075 I follow a lot of right wing accounts. 279 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:01,619 Back in 2020 when the election was going on, 280 00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:03,455 that's why I followed a lot of those accounts. 281 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:06,041 So, I don't feel like I should be-- 282 00:11:06,124 --> 00:11:07,375 It's a free country, by the way. 283 00:11:07,459 --> 00:11:09,586 You can follow the right wing accounts... 284 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:12,047 True, but I will say it was a good lesson for me to learn. 285 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:15,425 And so, I went and rectified, and I went and looked 286 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:17,594 at a lot of the accounts that I was following. I was like, 287 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,221 I do not stand for this. And I am not going to follow 288 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:23,016 accounts that have this type of rhetoric. 289 00:11:23,141 --> 00:11:25,602 I don't know initially why I followed it. Maybe they had 290 00:11:25,643 --> 00:11:28,355 a post about God. Maybe they had a post about something. 291 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,399 I don't, I can't tell you because it's a lot of accounts. 292 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:33,193 The reason why I followed something 293 00:11:33,276 --> 00:11:34,652 and didn't follow something. 294 00:11:34,778 --> 00:11:35,945 By the way, if you're following 4,500 accounts, 295 00:11:36,071 --> 00:11:38,365 it stands to reason that you are not seeing 296 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:40,367 what most of these accounts are posting. 297 00:11:40,492 --> 00:11:42,702 - No, I'm not. No, I'm not. - On a daily basis. 298 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:44,496 - Right. - Can I say something to you? 299 00:11:44,579 --> 00:11:45,955 - Yes. - I've known you 300 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:47,332 - a very long time. - Yes. 301 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,958 - I think 14 years. - Yes. 302 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:52,253 You have never been anything but kind to me and my family. 303 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:53,672 Thank you. Yeah. 304 00:11:53,797 --> 00:11:55,965 And I never believed that you were that person. 305 00:11:56,091 --> 00:12:00,220 But I have people that I've had in my life for a long time, 306 00:12:00,303 --> 00:12:02,555 that I thought were that way, and found out some 307 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:05,517 - very disturbing things... - I know that. 308 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,519 - ...that go against my family. - I understand that. 309 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:09,145 My children specifically. 310 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:11,314 And everything I believe in. And it has shattered me. 311 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:15,819 I will tell you that I have heard over the years, 312 00:12:15,902 --> 00:12:19,906 rumblings of this kind of rhetoric from you 313 00:12:19,989 --> 00:12:23,660 in different communities, that I have always chosen to ignore. 314 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:28,123 But when I saw all these posts and saw that you liked them, 315 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:30,041 this is what worries me. 316 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:34,587 When you follow a multitude of hatemongers, 317 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:38,425 what you are going to see in your for you page is hate. 318 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:39,801 She's saying like, 319 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:41,344 - our is dogs, right? - Ours is dogs. 320 00:12:41,386 --> 00:12:44,055 - I'm saying yours is animals. - Mine's fitness and dogs. 321 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:46,891 It shows you what you follow. 322 00:12:46,975 --> 00:12:50,645 Mine's guys, housewives, and like, Diana Ross. 323 00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:54,149 Yeah, like I have cake decorating and folding. 324 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:56,860 But Heather, you've got to understand, that was 325 00:12:56,901 --> 00:12:59,112 a small percentage of all the accounts I follow. 326 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,531 The last few days, have you been unliking 327 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:03,783 - problematic posts? - No, I told you guys that I-- 328 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:05,952 How do you know when she unlikes things, though? 329 00:13:06,036 --> 00:13:09,664 Well, because I printed out two days ago posts 330 00:13:09,748 --> 00:13:11,833 that she still had likes on. 331 00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:15,003 And all but this one, making fun of Dylan about 332 00:13:15,086 --> 00:13:16,629 being on the Bud Light can, 333 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:20,592 this is the only that's still liked by you, Gretchen. 334 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:22,719 Shouldn't she have unliked them? 335 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:24,137 I mean, wasn't that the right thing to do? 336 00:13:24,179 --> 00:13:25,638 - Isn't that the goal? - Yes, I did. 337 00:13:25,722 --> 00:13:27,307 That's the goal. [talking over each other] 338 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:29,059 Okay, but so then? 339 00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:30,977 Yeah, but just be honest about it. 340 00:13:31,019 --> 00:13:33,480 - Well, she-- - I accidentally did it? 341 00:13:33,563 --> 00:13:35,607 No, no, she said, she just went through 342 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:37,400 - and she unfollowed a bunch. - As she should. 343 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:39,694 Okay, well then- but you were saying it was-- 344 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,363 I appreciate the accountability. 345 00:13:41,446 --> 00:13:42,864 It was a good lesson for me. 346 00:13:42,947 --> 00:13:45,533 I don't subscribe to this, I don't align with this. 347 00:13:45,617 --> 00:13:47,327 But the post came from somewhere. 348 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:49,704 So, if you're telling us-- 349 00:13:49,746 --> 00:13:51,664 If it wasn't you, where did it come from? 350 00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:53,166 You mean, the original post? 351 00:13:53,249 --> 00:13:55,168 Yeah, where does the, so then where did it come from? 352 00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:56,252 Well, that is the question. 353 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:59,798 So, when I went home, 354 00:13:59,881 --> 00:14:02,550 I hired a cyber analysis company. 355 00:14:02,634 --> 00:14:05,762 And you said to me, Heather, 356 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,014 "I need you to prove to me it's not true." 357 00:14:08,098 --> 00:14:10,725 So I did. [shocking music] 358 00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:23,071 When I went home, I hired a cyber analysis company. 359 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:25,281 And you said to me, Heather, 360 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:28,702 "I need you to prove to me it's not true." So I did. 361 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:34,207 I spent thousands of dollars getting a cyber analysis done 362 00:14:34,249 --> 00:14:35,875 on these posts. 363 00:14:35,959 --> 00:14:39,921 And you can see it's a 25-page report. 364 00:14:40,005 --> 00:14:45,427 The most egregious post is a fabricated, fake post. 365 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:46,928 It's important to note that 366 00:14:47,012 --> 00:14:48,430 at the time of our initial investigation, 367 00:14:48,513 --> 00:14:51,141 the most egregious and offensive post did not exist 368 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:54,728 anywhere online. Our system detected it may be a combination 369 00:14:54,769 --> 00:14:56,813 of AI and some other image editing software. 370 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,773 Did we have AI three years ago? 371 00:14:58,815 --> 00:15:02,360 Leading to us to the conclusion that it's a manufactured post 372 00:15:02,444 --> 00:15:04,612 and could not be authenticated. 373 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,449 I think with the word pedophilia in there, 374 00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:11,202 it's probably a post that Instagram removed. 375 00:15:11,286 --> 00:15:13,371 This third-party cyber analysis company 376 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:16,249 continued to do a lot of research on, 377 00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:18,460 on a lot of accounts that, unfortunately, 378 00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:19,878 were tied to Tamra. 379 00:15:19,961 --> 00:15:24,174 - Oh, my God! - What does that mean? 380 00:15:24,299 --> 00:15:26,217 - I will sue your fucking ass. - What does that mean? 381 00:15:26,301 --> 00:15:27,886 Okay, then sue my ass. I mean, what-- 382 00:15:27,969 --> 00:15:30,096 I have nothing to do with this. 383 00:15:30,138 --> 00:15:32,140 - Okay. - How did you find that post? 384 00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:33,767 How did you find it? 385 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,226 It's been, it's been cycling around social media 386 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:36,895 - for a long time. - No, it has not. 387 00:15:36,978 --> 00:15:38,355 You said it came on Two T's in a-- 388 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:40,106 Exactly, let me finish. 389 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:41,941 No, it was on one Twitter feed. 390 00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:43,651 And so, two years ago, it came through to Teddi. 391 00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:44,903 It was, it was tweeted 392 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:46,780 - or X or whatever. - You said a year ago. 393 00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,323 Now it's two years ago? 394 00:15:48,365 --> 00:15:50,075 I don't know, I can look it up on my phone 395 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:51,618 if you really want to know the date. 396 00:15:51,701 --> 00:15:53,578 No, you said on the thing it was one year ago 397 00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:55,163 and now you're saying two years ago. 398 00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:57,374 I'm not quite sure. I know the post was from like, 2022. 399 00:15:57,499 --> 00:16:00,293 You were the only person that knew anything about this. 400 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:02,462 You knew about that Twitter feed. 401 00:16:02,545 --> 00:16:04,339 - No, I wasn't the only person! - Yes, you were. 402 00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:07,050 - You were the only person. - Oh, my God! 403 00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:08,426 And Gina, I really like you 404 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:09,969 but it really was frustrating to me... 405 00:16:10,053 --> 00:16:11,471 - Oh, my God. - ...because I had somebody 406 00:16:11,554 --> 00:16:13,431 call me and said that you and her were plotting 407 00:16:13,515 --> 00:16:15,975 - and planning it together. - Yeah, I know. 408 00:16:16,101 --> 00:16:17,560 But you saw what you saw, Gretchen. 409 00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,020 And the reality is she brought up to me. 410 00:16:19,104 --> 00:16:21,356 Let me ask you this, 411 00:16:21,398 --> 00:16:23,441 why after you had made up with her several times... 412 00:16:23,525 --> 00:16:25,610 - Yes. - Did you bring it up 413 00:16:25,735 --> 00:16:27,904 - at the end? Like, why-- - When did I bring it up, Andy? 414 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:29,531 - In Amsterdam. - No, I didn't. 415 00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:31,116 You talked to her-- 416 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:32,742 I brought it up the night after she, 417 00:16:32,784 --> 00:16:34,035 her and Slade went after me. 418 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,122 I'm saying, you had resolved everything with her. 419 00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:38,915 - Yes! - And then you two talked 420 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:40,208 about bringing it up. 421 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:42,043 So, why didn't you tell Gina to squash it? 422 00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,503 Because anytime I bring anything up, it's like, 423 00:16:43,586 --> 00:16:46,214 Oh, my God, here Tamra goes! Here Tamra goes! 424 00:16:46,297 --> 00:16:48,550 But you did bring it up. I understand, but I'm saying, 425 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,385 what doesn't make sense to me is that you've had this 426 00:16:50,427 --> 00:16:52,554 for a long time. Heather: Why now? 427 00:16:52,637 --> 00:16:54,097 It's not like I was sitting on it! 428 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,099 Yes, you were! You just said for two years! 429 00:16:56,141 --> 00:16:57,642 You said you knew about it for two years. 430 00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:59,227 I found out about it two fucking years ago. 431 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:01,855 So, you've been sitting on it for two years. 432 00:17:01,896 --> 00:17:04,357 And I never even thought about it again until recently... 433 00:17:04,399 --> 00:17:06,401 - No, that's such bullshit. - ...when you came on the show. 434 00:17:06,484 --> 00:17:07,819 Yeah, and you wanted to figure out 435 00:17:07,902 --> 00:17:09,029 how to weaponize it against me 436 00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:10,655 and harm me and hurt me. That's what you did. 437 00:17:10,739 --> 00:17:12,407 Then why didn't I bring it up the first day? 438 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:14,409 I don't know, Tamra. 439 00:17:14,492 --> 00:17:16,745 Why is this changing into you're a homophobic bitch! 440 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:18,913 - I'm not, and you know that. - Yes you are! 441 00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:20,206 - No! - Bullshit. 442 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:21,666 You are so gross. 443 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:23,293 But when you say tied to Tamra, 444 00:17:23,335 --> 00:17:25,253 - what does that mean though? - Like she made it up? 445 00:17:25,337 --> 00:17:27,297 - Yeah, I made this up? - That's not what I said. 446 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:29,132 There is a Twitter feed 447 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,842 that Tamra happened to have on her phone that night. 448 00:17:30,925 --> 00:17:32,344 - Yeah. - She was like, look at this. 449 00:17:32,469 --> 00:17:33,303 - Yeah. - Here's this. 450 00:17:33,428 --> 00:17:34,888 That Twitter feed, 451 00:17:34,971 --> 00:17:36,806 that was the only feed that it was on. 452 00:17:36,931 --> 00:17:40,143 It had not been anywhere else but on that Twitter. 453 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:42,187 Gretchen, it's all over Reddit. 454 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:43,772 - Now it is. - Because you started putting 455 00:17:43,855 --> 00:17:45,648 - it out everywhere. - No, no, no. 456 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:47,525 Tamra, do you know how many-- 457 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:49,569 That is a lie! You're a fucking liar. 458 00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:51,654 - Do you know how many DMs-- - You spit. 459 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:53,448 ...how many people have sent me that you are the one 460 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:55,033 that is out, putting that out into the press 461 00:17:55,158 --> 00:17:56,534 - with everybody? - Oh, my God. 462 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:57,911 Do you know how many people are saying that? 463 00:17:57,952 --> 00:17:59,204 Who? Show me the proof. 464 00:18:00,246 --> 00:18:01,581 Can I say one more thing to Gretchen? 465 00:18:01,664 --> 00:18:04,167 'Cause I want to say this directly to you. 466 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,336 In hindsight, was this something that I felt 467 00:18:06,378 --> 00:18:08,338 I needed to bring up? Yeah, because it was something 468 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,465 that was brought to me and it was a little disturbing to me. 469 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:14,969 I wish that I had brought it up to you not... 470 00:18:15,053 --> 00:18:16,930 - Thank you for saying that. - ...at the dinner table. 471 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:18,598 And I am very sorry for doing it there. 472 00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:20,350 Thank you. I appreciate that. 473 00:18:20,475 --> 00:18:23,353 Because I did think that you and I had a good enough 474 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:25,939 relationship that if something was bothering you that much. 475 00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:27,691 - Yeah. - And especially knowing 476 00:18:27,816 --> 00:18:31,194 that you knew about it for what, I understood, a couple weeks. 477 00:18:31,236 --> 00:18:33,071 - Yeah. - Maybe a month before. 478 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,656 - I did, yeah. - I wish that 479 00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:36,658 - you had brought it to me. - I do, too. 480 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:39,953 Because I do, I felt very... 481 00:18:40,078 --> 00:18:42,205 - Blindsided? - Blindsided and ambushed. 482 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:43,748 Yeah, and I am sorry for that. 483 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:46,459 Tamra, what were your intentions of bringing this 484 00:18:46,543 --> 00:18:48,086 to Gina in the first place? 485 00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:50,338 And I'm curious, did you think about bringing it to Heather, 486 00:18:50,422 --> 00:18:53,174 who it kind of most personally affected? 487 00:18:53,258 --> 00:18:54,843 Me and Heather have had conversations in the past 488 00:18:54,884 --> 00:18:56,469 about her beliefs. 489 00:18:56,511 --> 00:18:58,638 You, yourself, said three years ago that you had to distance 490 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,349 - yourself from Gretchen. - I did not say that to you. 491 00:19:01,433 --> 00:19:04,310 We were sitting after Jenn's yoga thing in Newport. 492 00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:06,021 - Tamra had-- - It wasn't about the post, 493 00:19:06,104 --> 00:19:08,565 - it was about other stuff. - No, you sent me the post. 494 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,358 - Yeah, well after. - No, you sent it to me 495 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,235 while we were in the middle of filming, you sent it 496 00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:14,654 to me, and I texted you back, I don't want any part of this. 497 00:19:14,738 --> 00:19:15,905 Oh, that's right. You're right. 498 00:19:15,947 --> 00:19:17,407 And then you brought it up again at the, 499 00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:19,951 in front of everyone, at the cake party. 500 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:21,703 You sat down with me and said, I don't 501 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:23,830 - want to talk about her. - I didn't-- 502 00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:25,957 Because of her political stance and her stance 503 00:19:26,041 --> 00:19:28,001 - on gay, lesbian-- - Do not, do not do that, 504 00:19:28,043 --> 00:19:30,462 - Tamra. Do not do that. - But that's what Tamra does! 505 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:33,923 I felt like you were trying to give it to me, 506 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:36,343 to drop it in my lap to do something with it, 507 00:19:36,426 --> 00:19:38,887 and I really didn't want any part of that. 508 00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:40,638 But why did you tell Gina? 'Cause I feel like 509 00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:42,515 you put her in an awkward position. 510 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,060 Because that's who I filmed with after-- 511 00:19:45,143 --> 00:19:47,270 But if this was something that you were going to bring up 512 00:19:47,354 --> 00:19:48,813 about Gretchen, why not just bring it up yourself? 513 00:19:48,897 --> 00:19:51,274 Why am I getting blamed for her 514 00:19:51,316 --> 00:19:53,068 - liking homophobic stuff? - You're not. 515 00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:54,694 - It's getting gross. - You're not-- 516 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,863 And it's like, I'm questioning 517 00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:58,573 - all of you. - I'm trying to understand 518 00:19:58,615 --> 00:20:00,450 - the lead up to it. - Like, this is crazy. 519 00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:02,285 I'm trying to understand. 520 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:04,120 I'm filming a reality show, Emily. 521 00:20:04,204 --> 00:20:07,165 - I understand that. - And okay, then let me explain. 522 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:08,917 Don't talk to me condescending. 523 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,418 Well then don't talk to me condescending. 524 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:11,961 I'm not being condescending at all. 525 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:13,838 Yeah, you are. Why did you do this? 526 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,507 That's not condescending. I'm asking you a question. 527 00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:17,592 I felt badly for Gina. As her friend, I felt badly. 528 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:19,803 I felt like she was in a very bad spot. 529 00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,346 - Tamra-- - Why do you have to be 530 00:20:21,388 --> 00:20:23,014 - an asshole all the time? 531 00:20:23,098 --> 00:20:25,100 - I'm not an asshole. You're an asshole all the time. 532 00:20:25,183 --> 00:20:27,644 You wanna talk about an asshole all the time, that's you. 533 00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:30,522 That's you! You're always poking at me and all I've ever done 534 00:20:30,647 --> 00:20:33,233 - is been supportive of you. - I know, here we go again. 535 00:20:34,192 --> 00:20:35,819 Oh, really, are we going back? 536 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:38,071 Oh yeah, but also what, she's got a podcast on my network. 537 00:20:38,154 --> 00:20:39,781 - I'm not on your network anymore! 538 00:20:39,906 --> 00:20:41,616 - She separated. - Stop bringing that up! 539 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,159 By the way, sweetheart, yes you are. 540 00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:44,911 - Don't call me sweetheart. - Wow. 541 00:20:44,953 --> 00:20:46,496 We had to put you back on because when you 542 00:20:46,621 --> 00:20:47,831 got off, your, it tanked. 543 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:49,916 This is the problem, Tamra. 544 00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:51,876 - That's the problem. - That's not cool. 545 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,837 Let's talk about who's an asshole right now. 546 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,046 I just got the text message 547 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,298 that they had to put you back on. 548 00:20:57,340 --> 00:20:59,342 - Okay, but that's not nice. - That is not true. 549 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:02,012 But then don't call me fucking shit like that. 550 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:04,389 What? Call you shit like what? What are you talking about? 551 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:07,350 You just started. You called her an asshole. 552 00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:09,144 - You said it first! - All I've ever been 553 00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:10,729 - is nice to you! - Oh, you have not! 554 00:21:10,812 --> 00:21:12,439 You treated me like shit for years then 555 00:21:12,522 --> 00:21:13,982 - I forgave you recently. - You treated me 556 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,984 - like shit for years, too. - Okay. 557 00:21:16,067 --> 00:21:17,777 [tense music playing] 558 00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:26,453 When you got off, it tanked. 559 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,913 Let's talk about who's an asshole right now. 560 00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:30,832 - I just got the text message... - Jesus. 561 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,459 ...that they had to put you back on. 562 00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:34,711 - Okay, but that's not nice. - That is not true! 563 00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:37,756 But then don't call me fucking shit like that! 564 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:39,841 What, call you shit like what? What are you talking about? 565 00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:42,344 You just started. You called her an asshole. 566 00:21:42,385 --> 00:21:44,095 - Okay, all right. - You said it first! 567 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:45,180 All I've ever been is 568 00:21:45,305 --> 00:21:46,681 - nice to you! - Oh, you have not! 569 00:21:46,723 --> 00:21:48,224 You treated me like shit for years and then 570 00:21:48,308 --> 00:21:49,809 - I forgave you recently. - Oh, you treated me 571 00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,269 - like shit for years, too. - Okay. 572 00:21:51,311 --> 00:21:52,604 I treated you like shit? 573 00:21:52,729 --> 00:21:55,148 - Yes, you did. - Okay. Right. 574 00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:58,109 Well, you guys have seen all of the episodes 575 00:21:58,234 --> 00:22:01,613 from this season, but we didn't send you the aftermath 576 00:22:01,696 --> 00:22:03,323 of the Amsterdam dinner. We wanted you 577 00:22:03,365 --> 00:22:05,033 to watch this together today as a group 578 00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:06,368 - Oh, wow. - ...for the first time. 579 00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:09,621 And then get your reactions on the other side. 580 00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:12,374 So, the day after that dinner, we captured a car ride 581 00:22:12,415 --> 00:22:17,545 to the airport with Jenn, Emily, Gina, Tamra, and Heather, 582 00:22:17,587 --> 00:22:19,214 and we're going to take a look at it. 583 00:22:19,297 --> 00:22:22,550 [tense music playing] 584 00:22:22,634 --> 00:22:24,260 Gina: I felt awful. 585 00:22:24,302 --> 00:22:26,930 Like, that way, that dinner went. 586 00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:28,765 It didn't sleep 'til almost 3:45. 587 00:22:28,807 --> 00:22:29,974 I don't like it. 588 00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:32,310 But I went to the actual pages of the people 589 00:22:32,394 --> 00:22:34,646 and she does follow these accounts, 590 00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:39,693 but then went to the posts that she's supposedly liked 591 00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:44,197 and I can't find anyone that she actually liked. 592 00:22:45,615 --> 00:22:49,577 Well, did she know when I liked these accounts? 593 00:22:49,619 --> 00:22:51,162 Well, I don't know, that's the question. 594 00:22:51,246 --> 00:22:53,164 You can't just sit across from someone and accuse them 595 00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:55,375 of doing something without knowing for sure. 596 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,460 This is going back to the root of the problem. 597 00:22:57,585 --> 00:23:01,297 You and Gretchen go tit for tat all the time, 598 00:23:01,381 --> 00:23:03,675 and I feel this is all stemming from that. 599 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,344 And to be honest, like at this point... 600 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:09,055 I want to remove myself from that. 601 00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:11,516 All you guys do is bring up shit that you see 602 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:13,226 on the internet to hurt each other. 603 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:15,478 It's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 604 00:23:15,562 --> 00:23:17,856 And it's like you're gonna both destroy both of your lives. 605 00:23:17,939 --> 00:23:19,858 How much shit can I take from this girl? 606 00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,068 All these things she can say about me and I just sit back? 607 00:23:22,152 --> 00:23:25,280 No, I'm not doing that. Checkmate, bitch. 608 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,577 So, Gretchen, how does it feel seeing that there was remorse 609 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:33,163 from Emily, Gina, and Heather? 610 00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:35,582 Does that make you feel any better? 611 00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:37,375 - [teary] Yeah. - Yeah? 612 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:38,543 I didn't even-- 613 00:23:38,585 --> 00:23:40,337 I mean, we all went to our room that night 614 00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,255 and stayed up looking at stuff. 615 00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:43,715 Thanks. 616 00:23:43,798 --> 00:23:45,258 And you know, you wake up the next day 617 00:23:45,383 --> 00:23:47,010 and you go, how did this happen? 618 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:50,472 Has anyone, since Amsterdam, seen any article 619 00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:53,850 or credible sources talking about the posts that Gretchen 620 00:23:53,892 --> 00:23:57,854 - has claimed to have liked? - No, I searched for it. 621 00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:00,190 'Cause I was trying to find something legitimate. 622 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:03,193 And I couldn't find anything. 623 00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:07,155 And to me, a screenshot is not clear and convincing evidence. 624 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,366 Like, I want to see the actual post. 625 00:24:09,491 --> 00:24:12,911 I do remember seeing that night that there were 626 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:15,121 live posts still up there 627 00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:16,539 - that you had liked. - Mm-hmm, 628 00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,208 they were as of two days ago. 629 00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:19,918 Whether intentionally or not, they were there. 630 00:24:20,001 --> 00:24:21,294 I'm curious, Katie, you weren't there. 631 00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:22,754 - No. - You're seeing all this 632 00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:24,547 for the first time. What's your reaction to all this? 633 00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:27,050 - It's a little heartbreaking 634 00:24:27,175 --> 00:24:29,427 because I don't stand on that side of things. 635 00:24:29,552 --> 00:24:31,179 I'm very much pro-LGBTQIA. 636 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:34,766 And I'm very outward about that and I don't follow 637 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:38,311 the accounts that would be the opposite. I just don't. 638 00:24:38,395 --> 00:24:41,481 You know, Heather, much of your story this season 639 00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:43,566 - was about... - Allyship, yeah. 640 00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:46,569 ...supporting your children through Allyship. 641 00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:49,197 So, where does this leave the two of you? 642 00:24:51,741 --> 00:24:55,120 I mean, I... I guess the only thing I could say to you, 643 00:24:55,245 --> 00:24:58,081 like I said to you that night was I gravely apologize 644 00:24:58,123 --> 00:25:01,251 if I had inadvertently liked a post that I didn't realize 645 00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:04,170 was, you know, hurtful towards you or your family, 646 00:25:04,295 --> 00:25:05,630 or anybody in the community, 647 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:08,091 because it's just not who I am, or what I align with, 648 00:25:08,216 --> 00:25:09,801 or what I subscribe to. 649 00:25:09,926 --> 00:25:13,805 So, I think you know who I am as a person and I hope you believe 650 00:25:13,888 --> 00:25:16,850 who I am as a person, and that I'm extremely sorry. 651 00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:18,309 Well, like I said at the beginning of this, 652 00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:21,813 you've always been supportive and kind to me 653 00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:24,482 and my family, and I think that's why it was so shocking. 654 00:25:24,607 --> 00:25:27,569 That's hurtful to everyone in your life 655 00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:31,614 that identifies like that. 656 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:33,616 Gretchen, you're crying because? 657 00:25:33,742 --> 00:25:38,204 [sobbing] Because like I said that night, it's not who I am, 658 00:25:38,288 --> 00:25:39,914 it's not what I align with. 659 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,377 And I just felt like it was such a personal attack on me. 660 00:25:44,461 --> 00:25:45,837 [sniffles] 661 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,173 And you know, Tamra and I had made up the day before 662 00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,717 and I really thought that we were like, 663 00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:54,971 maybe having a chance to move forward. 664 00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:56,556 Okay, just stop right there. 665 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:58,516 Gina, when did I show you that post? 666 00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,186 When we were in Orange County. 667 00:26:01,227 --> 00:26:03,980 Which you're not understanding is that from my point of view, 668 00:26:04,105 --> 00:26:06,232 it felt like it was being plotted and planned 669 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:08,943 and brought back memories of even 670 00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:11,029 naked wasted to be honest. [scoffs] 671 00:26:11,112 --> 00:26:12,364 Of when I saw you on camera going, 672 00:26:12,405 --> 00:26:14,115 we're gonna get her naked wasted. 673 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,492 We're gonna make her do something stupid. 674 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:17,118 And you know what, Tamra? 675 00:26:17,243 --> 00:26:20,497 That's fucking hard to sit there and think that somebody's 676 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:23,958 plotting and planning something and you have no fucking idea 677 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:25,335 that somebody's doing. 678 00:26:25,377 --> 00:26:27,337 That's fucked up! It's fucked up! 679 00:26:27,462 --> 00:26:29,172 Oh, bring on the tears, Gretchen. 680 00:26:29,297 --> 00:26:31,216 No, you know what, Andy? This is life-changing. 681 00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:33,051 - This is life-destroying. - It can be. 682 00:26:33,093 --> 00:26:34,928 - And you brought that up-- - Yeah, so is drugging somebody 683 00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:37,305 - is life-destroying, too. - I've gotten so many 684 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:38,682 - death threats. - I have businesses. 685 00:26:38,807 --> 00:26:40,350 I've gotten so much shit because of the stuff that 686 00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:42,769 you are out disseminating and telling people. 687 00:26:42,894 --> 00:26:44,646 I am not disseminating anything. 688 00:26:44,729 --> 00:26:46,314 You are out disseminating this to so many people. 689 00:26:46,398 --> 00:26:48,316 There is a whole thread out there that's been out there 690 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:49,776 - for two years. - Oh, my God, Tamra. 691 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,277 [shouting over each other] 692 00:26:51,361 --> 00:26:53,279 She's not talking about the Twitter feed. 693 00:26:53,363 --> 00:26:55,824 They're posting them currently because they got them recently. 694 00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:57,992 Tamra is out... yes! 695 00:26:58,076 --> 00:26:59,744 I didn't say that but you can make 696 00:26:59,869 --> 00:27:01,579 - whatever connection you want. - Oh, show me. Show me. 697 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,456 I get these messages on the daily! 698 00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:05,792 You are so full of shit! You are so full of shit! 699 00:27:12,966 --> 00:27:14,843 I get these messages on the daily! 700 00:27:15,010 --> 00:27:17,095 You are so full of shit! You are so full of shit! 701 00:27:17,137 --> 00:27:19,014 Every single one of those accounts... 702 00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:20,890 - Oh, my God. - ...you are attached to. 703 00:27:20,932 --> 00:27:23,059 There are accounts out there that are very pro-Tamra 704 00:27:23,143 --> 00:27:24,978 - and those are the accounts... - Yeah, there are. 705 00:27:25,145 --> 00:27:26,354 ...that are posting screenshots. 706 00:27:26,521 --> 00:27:28,565 There's accounts that are pro everybody. 707 00:27:28,648 --> 00:27:30,400 - There's accounts that hate me. - I'm just saying... 708 00:27:30,442 --> 00:27:32,402 - This digital thing. - ...it very suspect that-- 709 00:27:32,527 --> 00:27:34,821 - Well, thank you, Emily. - Well, just so you know... 710 00:27:34,863 --> 00:27:36,614 I'm saying it's suspect, Tamra. 711 00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:38,366 Yeah, okay, thanks Emily. 712 00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:40,201 You should flip through this because they, 713 00:27:40,243 --> 00:27:41,911 they are linking accounts that they say 714 00:27:41,995 --> 00:27:44,622 you are somehow involved with. 715 00:27:44,664 --> 00:27:46,291 There's all these little accounts. 716 00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:48,251 - For spreading this around. - Tamra's the only one that's 717 00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:50,670 - following those accounts. - I am not spreading anything. 718 00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:51,921 I have nothing to do with this. 719 00:27:52,047 --> 00:27:53,840 - This is Slade's bullshit - It's your little 720 00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:56,009 criminal network that you're reaching out to everybody. 721 00:27:56,051 --> 00:27:57,010 I don't have a criminal network. 722 00:27:57,135 --> 00:27:58,470 - Okay, Tamra. - Oh, my goodness. 723 00:27:58,511 --> 00:27:59,888 Gretchen, I have a job. 724 00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:01,931 Sure. Do you ever not talk to bloggers? 725 00:28:01,973 --> 00:28:04,184 Do you never leak any information about the show? 726 00:28:04,351 --> 00:28:05,935 No, what are you talking about? 727 00:28:05,977 --> 00:28:07,771 - You've never done that? Okay. - Never in my life. 728 00:28:07,812 --> 00:28:09,064 Okay, Tamra. 729 00:28:09,147 --> 00:28:12,400 Well, about a week after the Amsterdam trip ended 730 00:28:12,567 --> 00:28:14,694 we picked cameras back up to see how everyone 731 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:16,321 - was processing. - Oh, wow. 732 00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:19,532 So, I'm going to show you now an interaction that happened 733 00:28:19,657 --> 00:28:21,743 between Jenn, Gina, and Shannon, 734 00:28:21,868 --> 00:28:24,913 at Jenn's house, after cameras went down. 735 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,084 Keep in mind, this was shot on May 9th, 2025, 736 00:28:29,209 --> 00:28:33,129 before any trailers or episodes had aired. 737 00:28:33,171 --> 00:28:34,673 Watch this. 738 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,351 Oh, my God, the account is back 739 00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:49,104 - and it has a different name? - Wait, how did you get it? 740 00:28:49,145 --> 00:28:51,064 Emily just sent me a screenshot. They said, 741 00:28:51,231 --> 00:28:52,732 I know you don't know who I am, 742 00:28:52,816 --> 00:28:54,901 I'm just someone who wants to expose the truth. 743 00:28:54,984 --> 00:28:58,071 Tamra has been leaking details about the entire season 744 00:28:58,196 --> 00:28:59,864 - throughout filming... - What? 745 00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:02,200 ...to bloggers and fan pages. If you want to test knowledge, 746 00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:04,452 feel free, I can prove everything I'm saying. 747 00:29:04,494 --> 00:29:05,954 What?! 748 00:29:12,002 --> 00:29:13,920 - Can you give us a couple of things that you know? 749 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:24,431 Yeah. 750 00:29:28,727 --> 00:29:31,187 This might be, like, the last time anyone sees me 751 00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:32,814 with this group of women. 752 00:29:35,984 --> 00:29:37,402 - Katie Ginella. - Hi. 753 00:29:37,444 --> 00:29:39,696 Fancy meeting you here. 754 00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:41,573 There are so many things that are coming up 755 00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:42,907 that haven't even aired. 756 00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:49,664 Gretchen lied and said 757 00:29:49,706 --> 00:29:51,541 she went to a hospital. - Wait, what? 758 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,335 - Wow. - Yeah. 759 00:29:53,376 --> 00:29:55,628 Tamra is getting away with leaking info 760 00:29:55,712 --> 00:29:57,172 yet holding Katie accountable for doing 761 00:29:57,213 --> 00:29:59,341 - the exact same thing. - Oh, my God. 762 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:03,178 - Hi. - No. 763 00:30:16,316 --> 00:30:17,901 That's insane. 764 00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:20,487 She's clearly trying to make this like, a my fault 765 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:22,447 thing when I have nothing to do with this. 766 00:30:22,489 --> 00:30:23,740 Like, it's, that's insane. 767 00:30:23,823 --> 00:30:24,824 You know what, Tamra? 768 00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:26,910 I'm not here to do your dirty work. 769 00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:29,245 I'm not your fuckin' henchman, I'm not your minion. 770 00:30:29,329 --> 00:30:30,955 And now you've pissed me off. 771 00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:34,125 This is everything. 772 00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:35,919 - This is insane. - You guys, let's-- 773 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,212 This is insane. 774 00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:41,925 Wow. Who's this guy? 775 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:44,469 - The voice. I don't know. - Who is he? Who is he? 776 00:30:44,594 --> 00:30:45,428 This is someone that 777 00:30:45,512 --> 00:30:48,056 - contacted who? - All of us. 778 00:30:48,139 --> 00:30:51,142 When you all agree to do the show, you all agree to keep 779 00:30:51,226 --> 00:30:52,727 - everything that you shoot... - Absolutely. 780 00:30:52,894 --> 00:30:55,438 - ...confidential. - Yep. Stories got leaked. 781 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,273 So, how do you explain how this person knows this? 782 00:30:57,399 --> 00:31:01,945 It is not me, Andy. This is bullshit and this is an ambush. 783 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:04,322 - Like you did to me? - So, you don't talk to anybody? 784 00:31:04,489 --> 00:31:06,408 You don't talk to bloggers. You don't tell information? 785 00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:08,076 I don't give away storyline. No, I don't. 786 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:09,327 But do you talk to bloggers? 787 00:31:09,369 --> 00:31:11,413 We all talk to bloggers. 788 00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:12,789 - I don't. - But there's a difference 789 00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,208 between saying hi, bye, thank you, yes, great. 790 00:31:15,291 --> 00:31:16,835 Well, that's not what I'm talking about. 791 00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,211 Good luck at the reunion. 792 00:31:18,253 --> 00:31:19,587 That's different than giving away storyline. 793 00:31:19,713 --> 00:31:21,548 - Very true. - I've been on this show 794 00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:23,091 for 15 years. We've never had this problem 795 00:31:23,174 --> 00:31:24,467 until you came back. 796 00:31:24,509 --> 00:31:26,511 Oh, okay, sure. 797 00:31:26,594 --> 00:31:29,472 People are finally coming out and talking about it. 798 00:31:29,556 --> 00:31:30,890 What am I doing? 799 00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,809 This guy said you've been doing it for years. 800 00:31:32,934 --> 00:31:34,853 Well, show your face, buddy! Show the proof! 801 00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:37,981 And then when people come after you, 802 00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:41,234 they go out on social media and support you 803 00:31:41,317 --> 00:31:43,570 and they do it because you supply them 804 00:31:43,695 --> 00:31:45,280 with storyline ahead of time. 805 00:31:45,363 --> 00:31:47,073 - You keep them in the know. - This is bullshit. 806 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,616 And that's how that they help you. 807 00:31:48,658 --> 00:31:50,076 - This is bullshit - That's what he said. 808 00:31:50,118 --> 00:31:52,871 This guy. Uh-huh. Slade's friend. 809 00:31:53,038 --> 00:31:54,581 It's not Slade's friend. 810 00:31:54,664 --> 00:31:56,291 But they weren't scenes that she was in. 811 00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:58,126 Yes, there was scenes that I wasn't in, Tamra. 812 00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:01,880 Show me the proof. Show me my writing. 813 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,758 On that call he said something that happened 814 00:32:04,841 --> 00:32:08,428 in Amsterdam was you were upset that you didn't 815 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:10,138 get asked to go to the upfront. 816 00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:23,943 But we all knew that. 817 00:32:24,027 --> 00:32:25,695 That was the clincher. How is this guy... 818 00:32:25,737 --> 00:32:27,614 I had just gotten back from Paris the day before. 819 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:29,074 How's this guy gonna know that? 820 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:32,827 Did every single person from our cast 821 00:32:32,952 --> 00:32:34,496 get invited to the upfronts but me? 822 00:32:34,537 --> 00:32:36,081 No. 823 00:32:36,164 --> 00:32:39,000 I did call up Bravo today and I said, 824 00:32:39,167 --> 00:32:41,419 I just want to know is there a reason 825 00:32:41,461 --> 00:32:43,546 - that was I wasn't asked to-- - Wait, you really did that? 826 00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:44,964 Yeah, I really did. And they said, 827 00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:46,966 No, absolutely not. We love you. 828 00:32:47,050 --> 00:32:48,843 - I didn't do this! - But this is the problem. 829 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:50,595 - This is where now lie. - Oh, my God. 830 00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:52,263 Like, we don't know. Do you do this? 831 00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:53,515 - She does! - I don't! 832 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,225 Why did you guys find this person 833 00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:56,935 to be credible on the call? 834 00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,728 Because he knew things. 835 00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:01,106 Do you think I'm the only person on this cast? 836 00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:03,525 - Well, it's someone here. - Not me. 837 00:33:03,608 --> 00:33:06,861 Right, well, you exonerated yourself on this one, lady. 838 00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,863 Guess what, Katie? You're clean on this one. 839 00:33:08,905 --> 00:33:11,199 It's very suspect to me that he knew about 840 00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:13,952 a specific setup between... - Absolutely! 841 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:17,038 - ...these two people about Gretchen and the screenshots. 842 00:33:17,122 --> 00:33:19,040 The only people that knew about that are the people 843 00:33:19,124 --> 00:33:21,001 - sitting in this room. - It wasn't me. Wasn't even me. 844 00:33:21,126 --> 00:33:22,377 - And I know it wasn't her. 845 00:33:22,544 --> 00:33:26,297 Hearing the person say, and Gina's plotting 846 00:33:26,423 --> 00:33:30,427 against Gretchen, it made me feel like you're doing this 847 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:31,845 and you're trying to now pass 848 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,680 - the buck to me? - Why would I say that? 849 00:33:33,763 --> 00:33:36,349 That same person had texted me and said Tamra has been 850 00:33:36,433 --> 00:33:37,934 plotting and planning this thing against you... 851 00:33:38,018 --> 00:33:39,436 I want to see the guy's messages. 852 00:33:39,477 --> 00:33:41,521 But she didn't know you were coming back to the show. 853 00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:43,857 This is such-- - No, no, he said 854 00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:45,734 that it would be in the last two weeks. 855 00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:47,360 - He said he knew-- - It was from you. 856 00:33:47,444 --> 00:33:49,362 - No, it wasn't from me, Tamra. - Yes, it was. 857 00:33:49,404 --> 00:33:51,698 Yes, Slade is working overtime. 858 00:33:51,781 --> 00:33:53,783 Oh, my God, you're such a fucking liar. 859 00:33:53,825 --> 00:33:55,660 You're just mad 'cause you got caught. That's why. 860 00:33:55,785 --> 00:33:58,038 - No, I'm not mad I got caught. - Yeah, you're mad that 861 00:33:58,121 --> 00:34:00,165 - you got caught. - I'm mad because it is a lie! 862 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,374 [shouting over each other] 863 00:34:01,541 --> 00:34:03,251 Okay, I want to hear from Shannon. 864 00:34:03,376 --> 00:34:04,878 Gina and Jenn, you were on the call. 865 00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:06,212 - Yes. - Do you also remember 866 00:34:06,296 --> 00:34:07,756 that he said when those crank calls were 867 00:34:07,922 --> 00:34:09,341 happening where it says Kelly Dodd... 868 00:34:09,507 --> 00:34:10,800 You said it happened. 869 00:34:10,925 --> 00:34:12,761 - What was the prank call? - I got prank called 870 00:34:12,886 --> 00:34:15,555 and I didn't tell one person about it. 871 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,140 You thought it would be funny 872 00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:18,850 and you gave Heather's number 873 00:34:18,975 --> 00:34:20,268 - and my number. - What? 874 00:34:20,435 --> 00:34:21,770 And I remember getting the prank call. 875 00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:23,772 - Oh, I did get that call. - And they recorded it. 876 00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:27,359 I have never given, on my children's life, 877 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,527 I have never done this! 878 00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:32,614 This is fucked up. 879 00:34:36,993 --> 00:34:40,872 On my children's life, I have never done this! 880 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,917 - Heather, what's your... - This is insane and gross! 881 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,460 ...what's your take about this? 882 00:34:45,543 --> 00:34:48,296 - This I find concerning. - Yeah. 883 00:34:48,338 --> 00:34:50,048 - It's, it's, you know. - Yeah, is it concerning 884 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:52,717 that they never come out until Gretchen's on and Slade's here? 885 00:34:52,884 --> 00:34:54,511 - Oh, my God. - And all the shit 886 00:34:54,636 --> 00:34:56,471 - that he's done? - Gina, you clearly 887 00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:59,724 believed this, based on the conversation. 888 00:34:59,766 --> 00:35:01,059 Well, I got pissed off 889 00:35:01,142 --> 00:35:02,936 because my name got thrown around in there. 890 00:35:03,019 --> 00:35:04,729 I do believe it. I don't play this game. 891 00:35:04,771 --> 00:35:06,272 This whole inter, under works. 892 00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:08,400 You say you felt like you were set up by Tamra. 893 00:35:08,441 --> 00:35:10,694 Or whatever. That's what I'm saying. I did, I believed this 894 00:35:10,819 --> 00:35:13,446 because the only people who knew that we knew 895 00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:15,907 about the posts about Gretchen are you and I. 896 00:35:15,949 --> 00:35:17,909 So, what's your response to her? 897 00:35:17,992 --> 00:35:20,078 - No, that is bullshit. - No, I mean with regards... 898 00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:21,871 - It's all over social media. - ...I mean with regards 899 00:35:21,996 --> 00:35:22,997 - to our season. - Oh. 900 00:35:23,081 --> 00:35:25,166 With regards to our season. 901 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:28,003 So, she's saying that she feels like set up by you. 902 00:35:28,086 --> 00:35:29,671 What's your response to her? 903 00:35:29,754 --> 00:35:31,756 She should be felt set up by Slade. 904 00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:34,467 No one knew that this whole thing about accusing Gretchen 905 00:35:34,592 --> 00:35:35,677 was between the two of you. 906 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,262 I know, and that's why I got hurt-- 907 00:35:37,345 --> 00:35:38,888 If it's not Gina's the one who's telling him, 908 00:35:38,972 --> 00:35:40,348 then it has to be you. 909 00:35:46,062 --> 00:35:47,814 Right, and that's bullshit. That's not fair. 910 00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:53,987 Fifteen fucking years I've been on this show 911 00:35:54,112 --> 00:35:55,321 and never had this problem. 912 00:35:55,405 --> 00:35:57,991 And this cunt comes back and guess what? 913 00:35:58,033 --> 00:35:59,868 - Okay. The words. - Guess what? 914 00:35:59,909 --> 00:36:01,411 Now all of a sudden, Slade's pulling his magic. 915 00:36:01,494 --> 00:36:03,747 I know, but Slade but wouldn't have known 916 00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:05,915 that information because she didn't know it. 917 00:36:06,041 --> 00:36:08,585 I didn't even know. I was ambushed with that. 918 00:36:08,626 --> 00:36:11,796 - This is bullshit. Bullshit. - Don't yell at me. 919 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840 On the finale night, we went out to dinner afterwards. 920 00:36:13,923 --> 00:36:16,384 You had a very smug look on your face. 921 00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:18,345 In fact I said you looked orgasmic. 922 00:36:18,511 --> 00:36:20,388 It was like, I got it. I won. And it made, 923 00:36:20,513 --> 00:36:23,475 and all of us commented on it. 924 00:36:23,516 --> 00:36:25,769 We did. We felt uncomfortable. 925 00:36:25,852 --> 00:36:27,520 Because the thing, this is what I keep going back to 926 00:36:27,562 --> 00:36:29,481 between the two of you guys, though. 927 00:36:29,606 --> 00:36:34,736 On my children's life. This is not true. 928 00:36:34,778 --> 00:36:37,030 - To a group of bloggers. - No, I didn't! 929 00:36:37,113 --> 00:36:38,239 Well, isn't it interesting 930 00:36:38,281 --> 00:36:40,033 - that they got them? - No, I didn't! 931 00:36:40,158 --> 00:36:42,160 Production knows! He said these are her taglines! 932 00:36:42,285 --> 00:36:44,120 - Yes, they called me about it. - Before they came out 933 00:36:44,245 --> 00:36:45,997 - and you did them. - I shared my alternative 934 00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:48,041 - taglines... - You literally have been 935 00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:49,834 - showing so much information. - ...with my guy that ran 936 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:51,628 my fan page for 15 years. 937 00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:53,922 But a group of people got all your taglines. 938 00:36:53,963 --> 00:36:55,715 They didn't get mine. They didn't get Jenn's. 939 00:36:55,799 --> 00:36:57,384 Well, no, I just want to say the tagline thing-- 940 00:36:57,425 --> 00:36:58,968 ...something totally different. 941 00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:01,513 Well, hold on, I do want to say about the tagline thing, 942 00:37:01,596 --> 00:37:04,182 I think it is different because I know housewives who like, 943 00:37:04,307 --> 00:37:06,976 - run their taglines by people. - Yes. 944 00:37:07,102 --> 00:37:11,564 I think that the thing that I would like to know from Tamra 945 00:37:11,648 --> 00:37:15,610 before I end this is, to me, 946 00:37:15,652 --> 00:37:17,487 - you and Gina are good buddies. - Mm-hmm. 947 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:20,824 And so, I actually think this 948 00:37:20,907 --> 00:37:22,867 kinda comes down to between the two of you. 949 00:37:22,992 --> 00:37:25,954 Because I know that things have been troubled with Jenn, 950 00:37:26,037 --> 00:37:27,789 and we know where you've been with Shannon. 951 00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:31,835 So, how do you two move on from this? 952 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,922 Because she's saying she felt set up by you in this situation. 953 00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:37,924 I feel set up by this whole situation. 954 00:37:38,008 --> 00:37:39,342 - Okay. - So, I don't... 955 00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:40,927 Gina, I didn't do that. 956 00:37:41,052 --> 00:37:45,640 On my children's life, I did not do that. 957 00:37:45,724 --> 00:37:49,477 But what I'm saying is, did they, did this person 958 00:37:49,602 --> 00:37:51,563 show you any proof that 959 00:37:51,604 --> 00:37:53,898 - this stuff came from Tamra? - Right, where's the proof? 960 00:37:53,982 --> 00:37:56,943 They just, they gave us a storyline. 961 00:37:56,985 --> 00:37:59,571 Yes. [talking over each other] 962 00:38:03,783 --> 00:38:05,577 Why don't we get this person out here 963 00:38:05,702 --> 00:38:07,662 and ask him where this is coming from? 964 00:38:07,746 --> 00:38:09,247 I would love for him to come out. 965 00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,166 - I would too. - Even this situation, 966 00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:13,668 this doesn't even have to do with Gretchen, right? 967 00:38:13,752 --> 00:38:17,172 This has to do, like for between you and I, 968 00:38:17,213 --> 00:38:20,008 like if you are telling anybody about anything 969 00:38:20,050 --> 00:38:22,093 that's happening here, it's getting fucking out. 970 00:38:22,177 --> 00:38:23,678 And it's becoming a problem, you know? 971 00:38:23,803 --> 00:38:25,055 - It is. - And so that's what 972 00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:27,474 - I'm saying is-- - Yeah, but you're making it 973 00:38:27,557 --> 00:38:30,101 sound like I'm reaching out to bloggers. 974 00:38:30,185 --> 00:38:33,021 - That's what they're saying. - That is what they're saying. 975 00:38:33,146 --> 00:38:36,316 [talking over each other] I am telling you I am not. 976 00:38:36,441 --> 00:38:38,234 Well this is what you all were accusing Katie of. 977 00:38:38,276 --> 00:38:40,904 Yeah, and I gave Katie shit for it a lot, too, you know. 978 00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:43,156 I mean, this is what we're saying is, 979 00:38:43,198 --> 00:38:45,617 if this is happening, it's not okay. 980 00:38:45,742 --> 00:38:47,243 No, it's not okay. 981 00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:48,620 And the same accountability that happens to Katie 982 00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:50,705 should be taken across the board. 983 00:38:50,789 --> 00:38:52,457 Do you still feel set up by Tamra? 984 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,836 I don't know. I mean, I have a hard time with that because 985 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,838 ultimately I like to take responsibility for the things 986 00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:01,925 that I choose to do when we're here, okay? 987 00:39:01,966 --> 00:39:03,802 And I understand how this works. And I understand that 988 00:39:03,885 --> 00:39:06,554 sometimes when things are told to you, there's an expectation 989 00:39:06,721 --> 00:39:08,390 that then you're gonna go and tell your other friends. 990 00:39:08,556 --> 00:39:11,685 So, I have a really hard time putting it all on her 991 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:13,687 when I chose to bring it up to you, 992 00:39:13,812 --> 00:39:15,313 at the end of the day. Okay? 993 00:39:15,397 --> 00:39:18,650 And I apologize for the way I brought that up to you. 994 00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:21,986 I'm, and I clearly had a lot of then remorse 995 00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:23,613 - for bringing it up to you. - Yeah. 996 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:25,949 And I don't know if I believe all this. And I don't know 997 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:29,285 if I believe all this. But I know it's all a problem. 998 00:39:29,327 --> 00:39:30,745 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 999 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:32,706 - It is. - And I'm over a lot of it. 1000 00:39:32,789 --> 00:39:35,041 - And I wish, I wish that there had been you maybe going 1001 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,085 and verifying if that post was even true. 1002 00:39:37,127 --> 00:39:39,421 Yeah, or verifying this stuff until you guys-- 1003 00:39:39,504 --> 00:39:41,548 Do you think someone close to you is betraying you? 1004 00:39:41,673 --> 00:39:44,009 I don't know. I don't know. 1005 00:39:44,092 --> 00:39:46,678 But I'm telling you, Andy, I'm not reaching out to bloggers. 1006 00:39:46,761 --> 00:39:48,138 I've been on this show for 15 years. 1007 00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,432 I don't fucking do that. 1008 00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:52,934 But it's just a coincidence that now he's on the show 1009 00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:55,687 and that they've been attacking me for so long. 1010 00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:57,939 - He wouldn't have, known that. - You know what you just 1011 00:39:58,023 --> 00:39:59,607 said to Andy at Watch What Happens Live? 1012 00:39:59,649 --> 00:40:02,193 You're like, "This is how I keep my job!" 1013 00:40:02,235 --> 00:40:03,278 That's not what I said, 1014 00:40:03,361 --> 00:40:04,904 - shut up. - Something like that. 1015 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:07,782 But listen, this is a moment for everyone to say, 1016 00:40:07,866 --> 00:40:10,535 it is enough. I... you know what? 1017 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:11,953 I joined this show when my youngest kid 1018 00:40:12,078 --> 00:40:14,539 was nine months old. He's turning 15. 1019 00:40:14,664 --> 00:40:16,166 You've been on this show longer than me. 1020 00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:17,792 You started before me. 1021 00:40:17,834 --> 00:40:21,921 Things have changed. It has got to stop. 1022 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:24,215 - Yeah. - No careers, no kids, 1023 00:40:24,299 --> 00:40:26,134 - no bloggers. - But I think we all agree... 1024 00:40:26,176 --> 00:40:28,011 - None of this. - And then it doesn't change. 1025 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:29,804 This is about our friendship. 1026 00:40:29,888 --> 00:40:34,517 This is about conflict and resolution between us, 1027 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,228 and that's all it's ever been and all it ever should be. 1028 00:40:37,354 --> 00:40:40,065 And anyone that arrives in this group and thinks 1029 00:40:40,148 --> 00:40:43,401 they're playing a game of survivor, is sadly mistaken. 1030 00:40:43,526 --> 00:40:47,697 And I think everyone needs to agree, once and for all, 1031 00:40:47,822 --> 00:40:50,658 - this has go to stop. - Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree. 1032 00:40:50,742 --> 00:40:53,036 It's hard enough, it's hard enough to be in this group. 1033 00:40:53,078 --> 00:40:54,579 It really is. 1034 00:40:54,662 --> 00:40:57,165 And to be in this dynamic and to navigate all of this. 1035 00:40:57,207 --> 00:40:58,708 And share your lives and your families. 1036 00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:00,710 And to be authentic and to talk. I mean, it's hard 1037 00:41:00,752 --> 00:41:02,754 for me to share about Luke. It's hard for me to talk 1038 00:41:02,879 --> 00:41:04,339 about marriage. I mean, it's hard for all of us. 1039 00:41:04,422 --> 00:41:06,341 We're sharing authentic things about our lives. 1040 00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:08,677 But it is so much harder 1041 00:41:08,718 --> 00:41:11,304 when we have to navigate outside people. 1042 00:41:11,471 --> 00:41:13,223 And the outside people aren't our friends. 1043 00:41:13,348 --> 00:41:16,101 - No. - So, we have to not deal with 1044 00:41:16,184 --> 00:41:17,936 those outside people. It's hard enough to deal with 1045 00:41:18,019 --> 00:41:21,314 this as it is, without bringing more people into this group. 1046 00:41:21,439 --> 00:41:24,734 All right, very well said. I want to leave it there 1047 00:41:24,776 --> 00:41:27,946 and I want to come back and we're gonna wrap things up. 1048 00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:38,915 We are back with final thoughts 1049 00:41:38,957 --> 00:41:44,254 from the Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19 Reunion. 1050 00:41:44,295 --> 00:41:46,339 Ladies, Christina from the UK said, 1051 00:41:46,381 --> 00:41:49,009 If you could take back one thing you've said this season, 1052 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:51,928 what would it be? Gretchen, starting with you. 1053 00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:56,266 That I brought up the thing about Tamra 1054 00:41:56,349 --> 00:41:57,475 and that whole situation. 1055 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:58,935 Shannon? 1056 00:41:58,977 --> 00:42:00,645 My reaction to you was too extreme. 1057 00:42:00,729 --> 00:42:02,981 You are nothing like Alexis Bellino. 1058 00:42:03,106 --> 00:42:04,899 Thank you, Shannon. 1059 00:42:04,941 --> 00:42:06,484 Katie? 1060 00:42:06,526 --> 00:42:08,903 I think I said something about Jenn in a confessional 1061 00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:12,574 about just having a strong distaste for her, 1062 00:42:12,615 --> 00:42:13,825 and I regret that. 1063 00:42:14,701 --> 00:42:15,827 Heather? 1064 00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:18,413 Um... It's not something I regret saying, 1065 00:42:18,496 --> 00:42:21,041 but I wish I had been more vocal about the photo. 1066 00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:23,084 Thank you. 1067 00:42:23,209 --> 00:42:24,836 Emily? 1068 00:42:26,212 --> 00:42:29,424 I can't think of anything. 1069 00:42:29,507 --> 00:42:32,802 Other than I'll just go back to Katie, to last year. 1070 00:42:32,927 --> 00:42:35,889 And I wish I would have formed the question better, 1071 00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:38,475 as opposed to making it about your children, 1072 00:42:38,558 --> 00:42:41,144 because that wasn't my intent. I wouldn't want to do that. 1073 00:42:41,186 --> 00:42:44,647 So, I wish I had said it in a better, more articulate way. 1074 00:42:44,773 --> 00:42:45,940 Thank you, Emily. 1075 00:42:46,066 --> 00:42:47,776 Gina? 1076 00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:50,236 It wasn't this season, but obviously I regret 1077 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,073 having asked you what you were wearing that day, 1078 00:42:53,156 --> 00:42:54,949 the bicycle, I do. 1079 00:42:55,075 --> 00:42:58,078 This season, I obviously deeply regret 1080 00:42:58,203 --> 00:42:59,996 saying that I thought you weren't funny. 1081 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,664 - Thank you. - And I do think you're funny. 1082 00:43:01,748 --> 00:43:02,916 Thank you, Gina. 1083 00:43:02,999 --> 00:43:04,459 - And I love you. - Love you, too. 1084 00:43:04,584 --> 00:43:07,462 - Tamra? - Sharing the picture of Jenn. 1085 00:43:08,338 --> 00:43:09,839 Jenn? 1086 00:43:09,923 --> 00:43:11,925 Two for me. That I gave Shannon the feeling 1087 00:43:12,008 --> 00:43:13,468 that I didn't appreciate the bridal party. 1088 00:43:13,551 --> 00:43:16,262 Oh, sweetie, that's nothing. - And then the video 1089 00:43:16,346 --> 00:43:17,806 that was hurtful for Katie. 1090 00:43:17,931 --> 00:43:19,808 Thank you, Jenn. 1091 00:43:19,891 --> 00:43:22,686 You know, Katie and Jenn, do you see a path forward? 1092 00:43:22,811 --> 00:43:24,270 I hope so. 1093 00:43:25,438 --> 00:43:26,690 We have a conversation 1094 00:43:26,773 --> 00:43:28,441 - we need to have. - Yeah. 1095 00:43:28,525 --> 00:43:30,193 Because when I was in the trailer, I got a call 1096 00:43:30,235 --> 00:43:31,778 that you were with Nicole just yesterday. 1097 00:43:31,903 --> 00:43:34,447 - Yeah. - And Nicole's my friend. 1098 00:43:34,531 --> 00:43:35,907 - Yeah. - Not that she can't be yours. 1099 00:43:36,032 --> 00:43:38,410 But you went right up to her and Nicole's like, you said, 1100 00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:40,745 I'm going to ask you something and tell me the truth, 1101 00:43:40,829 --> 00:43:42,247 was Ryan involved with Matt's booking? 1102 00:43:42,288 --> 00:43:44,290 - I, no, no, I didn't say-- - And Nicole said, Jenn, 1103 00:43:44,374 --> 00:43:46,626 - she was phishing. - I said, Was he involved? 1104 00:43:50,755 --> 00:43:54,259 And to know she went there to pump Nicole for information 1105 00:43:54,384 --> 00:43:57,554 so she and Tamra can go sit out there like some united front? 1106 00:43:57,637 --> 00:43:59,014 She can go fuck herself. 1107 00:43:59,097 --> 00:44:02,100 My friend Leli hosted an event, and she was a guest. 1108 00:44:02,225 --> 00:44:04,477 And I was invited by my friend Leli, who owns the event space. 1109 00:44:04,561 --> 00:44:06,187 But you went out phishing again for me. 1110 00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:08,440 And this is where, Katie, I had nothing but love, 1111 00:44:08,523 --> 00:44:09,983 100 percent love for you. 1112 00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:11,860 You can't do this stuff in real friendships. 1113 00:44:11,985 --> 00:44:13,570 You can't go to my friends and say-- 1114 00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:15,238 I haven't heard from you, Jenn. 1115 00:44:15,321 --> 00:44:17,949 But you're sitting here today saying, I hope there's a path. 1116 00:44:18,033 --> 00:44:19,617 I'm in my trailer eating lunch. 1117 00:44:19,701 --> 00:44:22,287 Nicole says, I'm driving Matt to prison today. 1118 00:44:22,328 --> 00:44:24,247 - She told me... - You came right up. 1119 00:44:24,289 --> 00:44:25,790 ... that she doesn't talk to you anymore. 1120 00:44:25,832 --> 00:44:27,083 Because you've been hurtful to her. 1121 00:44:27,125 --> 00:44:28,710 Matt is the bookie that Ryan worked with? 1122 00:44:28,793 --> 00:44:30,670 She said she hasn't talked to you for weeks and you said 1123 00:44:30,795 --> 00:44:32,339 you submitted her for casting. 1124 00:44:32,422 --> 00:44:34,799 No, she said you told her that they want her on the show 1125 00:44:34,883 --> 00:44:36,760 and that you will submit her for casting. 1126 00:44:36,801 --> 00:44:39,179 She said you sent her a message and said I submitted 1127 00:44:39,262 --> 00:44:41,014 - you for casting. - Not true. She said you did. 1128 00:44:41,056 --> 00:44:42,640 I just met her for the second time last night. 1129 00:44:42,724 --> 00:44:45,393 I'm sorry, it's the phone call I just got. 1130 00:44:45,518 --> 00:44:47,395 You can have a call with Leli and you can 1131 00:44:47,479 --> 00:44:49,147 hear the real story and it's exactly what I'm saying. 1132 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:50,648 But I don't need it. I trust Nicole. 1133 00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:52,609 Okay. 1134 00:44:52,692 --> 00:44:55,612 Okay. All right, for our final toast this year, 1135 00:44:55,653 --> 00:44:58,615 we are doing hurricanes from New Orleans. 1136 00:44:58,698 --> 00:45:01,117 Gina, we made you a mocktail. 1137 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,036 - Thank you. - I want to get this right. 1138 00:45:04,371 --> 00:45:07,749 Heather, why don't you lead us in a toast? 1139 00:45:07,791 --> 00:45:09,834 - Oh, I... oh, dear. - Did you ChatGPT it? 1140 00:45:09,959 --> 00:45:11,586 - Here, Gretchen. - I didn't prep. 1141 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:13,421 I think we said it all best. 1142 00:45:13,505 --> 00:45:14,881 I think in order to move forward, 1143 00:45:14,923 --> 00:45:16,966 the path has to be clear. 1144 00:45:17,008 --> 00:45:18,176 - Cheers to that. - Cheers. 1145 00:45:18,301 --> 00:45:20,970 Cheers to Season 19. 1146 00:45:21,054 --> 00:45:22,681 Woo! In the books, baby. 1147 00:45:22,806 --> 00:45:24,265 - Incredible. In the books. 1148 00:45:24,307 --> 00:45:27,310 Thank you all for being here. Thanks for your openness. 1149 00:45:27,394 --> 00:45:30,522 - Oh, that's got a lot of sugar. - Lot of sugar. Wow. 1150 00:45:30,605 --> 00:45:34,067 For more, go to BravoTV.com. Cheers. 1151 00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:36,111 Tamra? 1152 00:45:38,113 --> 00:45:39,406 Gretchen. 1153 00:45:39,489 --> 00:45:41,700 Heather: You okay? 1154 00:45:41,783 --> 00:45:43,660 - No, this is not okay. 1155 00:45:43,743 --> 00:45:47,956 It's a fucking lie, it's a set up, and it's not fucking true. 1156 00:45:48,081 --> 00:45:50,208 Where do you think it is coming from? 1157 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:52,127 I don't know! 1158 00:45:52,210 --> 00:45:53,878 Thank you, you guys. 1159 00:45:55,714 --> 00:45:58,091 Can I get one too? I never take a photo with Andy. 1160 00:45:58,216 --> 00:45:59,551 What's the name of the account 1161 00:45:59,634 --> 00:46:00,969 that reached out to you about this? 1162 00:46:01,052 --> 00:46:02,804 They deleted the DM that they originally sent me 1163 00:46:02,929 --> 00:46:04,806 so and I honestly do not remember the name. 1164 00:46:04,931 --> 00:46:07,934 - You're trying to be taller? - Yes? 1165 00:46:07,976 --> 00:46:10,186 But to say that I called bloggers when there's 1166 00:46:10,228 --> 00:46:12,439 absolutely no fucking information on it? 1167 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,692 Like, it's bullshit and what's more bullshit 1168 00:46:15,734 --> 00:46:17,569 is I can't find my fucking phone. 1169 00:46:17,652 --> 00:46:19,654 Good job tonight. You did really good. 1170 00:46:19,738 --> 00:46:21,072 - Thank you. - Pull my Spanx down. 1171 00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:23,783 I only have one on today. Newsflash. 1172 00:46:23,908 --> 00:46:25,410 What are you looking for, Tamra? 1173 00:46:25,535 --> 00:46:27,245 - My phone. - Did you find it? 1174 00:46:27,328 --> 00:46:29,581 - Yep. - Oh, okay. It's gonna be okay. 1175 00:46:29,706 --> 00:46:31,708 No, it's not okay. 1176 00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:33,209 Okay, can I be in the group? 1177 00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:35,003 - Yeah, of course. - Can I take a group shot? 1178 00:46:35,128 --> 00:46:36,838 Oh, my God. Just wait, here, I'll go in here. 1179 00:46:37,922 --> 00:46:38,923 [camera shutter snaps] 1180 00:46:39,007 --> 00:46:40,592 - I didn't do this. - Okay. 1181 00:46:40,717 --> 00:46:42,802 This is such a good dress. 1182 00:46:42,927 --> 00:46:45,555 Oh man, I can't wait to burn it. [laughs] 1183 00:46:45,638 --> 00:46:48,099 Thank you, everybody, for a wonderful day. 1184 00:46:48,183 --> 00:46:51,061 Thank you everybody! Woo! 1185 00:46:51,102 --> 00:46:52,979 Geez Louise, that was a lot. 1186 00:46:53,021 --> 00:46:57,025 Heather: My feet are in pain. They're like sausages. 1187 00:46:59,527 --> 00:47:01,196 - Then say you do. - Then say you do. 1188 00:47:01,237 --> 00:47:03,031 It's obvious. Jenn, you were on the call. 1189 00:47:03,073 --> 00:47:04,324 I was on the call. 1190 00:47:04,407 --> 00:47:05,700 It was too much circumstantial evidence. 1191 00:47:05,825 --> 00:47:07,494 - This is my leg tape. - I see that. 1192 00:47:07,577 --> 00:47:10,038 You know what it does? It lifts! 1193 00:47:15,835 --> 00:47:18,338 - I know, I was... you were very, very... I know, 1194 00:47:18,421 --> 00:47:20,382 she came at you at the end. Like, why? 1195 00:47:21,883 --> 00:47:23,885 I didn't do it. 1196 00:47:23,927 --> 00:47:25,553 I know you didn't. 1197 00:47:25,637 --> 00:47:29,391 I value my job and I've never done that. 1198 00:47:29,474 --> 00:47:30,975 Well, you just know going forward, 1199 00:47:31,101 --> 00:47:33,353 who's in your corner and who's not, you know what I mean? 1200 00:47:33,436 --> 00:47:35,730 I mean, at the end of the day, Katie and Tamra, 1201 00:47:35,772 --> 00:47:37,232 no wonder they're friends. They're the same person. 1202 00:47:37,357 --> 00:47:40,068 They can't trust me? Why can't you trust me? 1203 00:47:45,323 --> 00:47:47,659 This is not what this show's about. 1204 00:47:47,742 --> 00:47:49,202 - I know. - It's retaliation. 1205 00:47:49,285 --> 00:47:50,787 - Of course it is. - Gretchen and Slade 1206 00:47:50,912 --> 00:47:52,997 - are so fucking dangerous. - Yeah, they're very dangerous. 1207 00:47:53,081 --> 00:47:55,625 There were some things on there that only her 1208 00:47:55,709 --> 00:47:57,919 and I would have known. 1209 00:47:58,003 --> 00:48:02,841 So, if it's not you, then it doesn't take a fucking 1210 00:48:02,924 --> 00:48:05,677 rocket scientist to figure out 1211 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,513 - who the guilty party is. - I know.