[upbeat music]
- Tonight, "The Real Housewives of Orange County"
reunion concludes.
- When you're upset that I called you a Snuffleupagus,
of course I didn't mean it mean.
- It's a mammoth.
A Snuffleupagus is a mammoth.
- John broke my fucking heart.
- Is he a friend with benefits?
- Sometimes.
- Heather had a lot of negative things to say about Tamra.
You said she was an asshole.
- She is an asshole.
- You're turning it around, and you're making
yourself out to be the victim.
- No.
- Poor Heather, poor Heather, poor Heather.
- Oh, my God!
Do you have a whistle?
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- Our job is to say how we feel.
- My job is to be Shannon Storms Beador.
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Can I address the CPS thing again?
- Yes.
- Because clearly, I'm not being clear.
Number one, I apologize for saying it.
And secondly, and I'm not downgrading it,
but I never, in that statement, was insinuating that your kids
would be taken away from you.
That's not what I meant.
It was that if no adult was present.
- We have to be careful-- - What we say on camera.
- The words that we choose to say.
- But you know it's being filmed.
- I understand, but I just-- - That's the problem.
- Want you to understand I would never--
- I get that, but you have to understand that I feel--
- I do. - That you have not hurt me.
I feel you have hurt my children.
- And I feel horrible about that.
- All right.
Let's take a break.
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- You OK? - Yeah.
- I know.
- Are you a little hot? - A little bit.
- Yeah.
- No, you must.
Breathe it out.
- We've got lunch?
OK, great. Thanks, everybody.
- Can I pee? - Squat in the beach.
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- Appreciation.
Hey. - Hi, gorgeous.
- Hi.
- I mean, that CPS thing was the most fucked thing
I've ever heard anyone say.
You know what you should be doing?
Throwing yourself on your sword.
- This is bullshit.
Anything falling out of that hole in her face
other than "I'm sorry" is not acceptable.
And she barely did that.
- Just shut the fuck up, Gina. Sorry.
- She had a lot to say.
- I do not have a friendship with Shannon.
I will never have a friendship with Shannon.
I will not let this go.
And fuck her.
- It's funny because Tamra had told me,
Shannon collects cards of, like, everything she's done
for people and then she just plays them.
- You did fine. It's over with.
- It'll be fine, OK?
- Get your dress back on. Get your boobies covered up.
- Now we're just gonna move on. You got this.
- No, I know. Yeah, I know.
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- Wait.
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- I feel like I need to pee all--I better pee now again.
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- I think it's nice that some of us are
in long and some are in short.
- Oh, I don't think I need my underwear.
- OK, guys, remember-- - What is that?
- Stick-on underwear.
- Seriously? - I can't wear underwear.
So you stick it on.
- But why do you need that? You gonna leak?
- Who knows? I'm very old.
- OK, folks, here we go.
5, 4, 3.
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- With her new at-home colonic, Shannon has no problem
unblocking her friends.
But when it came to her relationship issues
with John Janssen, her friends often struggled to unlock
Shannon's vault.
Take a look.
- Dr. Moon, I wanted to show you the Sitolonic.
- Let's turn shit into gold.
- I'm pooping. - Ah!
I don't want hear poop. I don't want to hear it.
- How does water and fire mix?
Do you put my fire out?
John and I have spoken about when the kids go out
of school, living together.
- I just want for us to have fun.
- Do we not still have fun?
- You've got your mind spinning.
- Heather shared some things with me
about their relationship.
- Shannon pays for everything.
The family dynamic isn't great, and he's never slept over,
and his son lives with him, so she doesn't go over there.
- Heather has been telling Emily
and Gina that the relationship with you and John is shit.
- He's called her names and said that she's
fat or unattractive.
- I am not taking a fall for defiling our friendship
because I didn't do that.
This is not the group to hide any information in.
- You know what, I don't have affairs,
I have arguments that paralyze me.
- Does he spend enough time with me?
Is there going to be enough money?
His kid doesn't like me.
I can't talk about that on camera.
- They just need to shut the fuck up.
- I'm so excited to dive into this.
It's just been so disappointing to me, Heather,
that you and I spent time before we started filming
over the season, and Terry and you would spend time
with John and I, and I felt that we were
forging a true friendship.
And right before filming started,
I, less fingers than I have on this hand,
would have conversations with you
when we were in an argument and you said, you should
bring this up on camera.
And I said, Heather, I want this relationship to work.
I'm not going to talk about all my arguments,
but again, Gina, I apologize that I saying,
you owe my husband a huge apology.
You owe my boyfriend a huge fucking apology!
- Your boyfriend owes you a thousand
apologies, apparently, from what everybody else is saying!
- Heather is telling me that you're talking
about my relationship when I haven't spoken
to you about it, and that Emily is talking
about my relationship, and Tamra is
talking about my relationship.
The only person that I discussed
my relationship was you.
- That's not true.
- They all said that you've discussed your relationship
with all of them.
- I have to be able to respond to this
because I have been really put to the fire--
- OK, so Emily--
- What did she say, Shannon? - Hold on.
- Oh, sorry. - Hold on.
Was there something that Heather said on camera--
- Nope. - About your relationship.
- She said it all off camera.
- I'm so manipulative.
- She never repeated anything.
- You told people off camera,
Shannon and John's relationship, it's not good,
but I can't tell you what it is because it's in the vault.
When you say, but I can't tell you, it's in the vault,
- No, I'm saying--
- People are going to think the worst.
- A million times--
- I agree with that because I didn't know
what was in the vault.
I couldn't figure out what the hell was in the vault.
- You said to me on camera in front of everyone,
and I said it back to you, there's nothing bad like that.
- We argued.
- Arguments that left you paralyzed.
- Paralyzed. - Yes.
Because what would happen is he would leave,
and he would ghost me, and I wouldn't
speak to him for days.
And it would be paralyzing to me because I have never
been more in love with anyone in my life
than I have with John Janssen.
And he said, I'm ready to take the next step with you.
- It's an exciting time for us to take
our relationship even deeper.
I think there's more.
- But if he wanted to take the next step with you,
why was he breaking up with you?
- Because he was saying what he wanted to say on camera.
- He was trying to get through filming
so that he didn't look bad.
- He just said that on camera--
- He said it on camera-- - And then he dumped you?
- And then week later, he broke up with me.
- Oh, horrible. - Can I ask you something?
Do you really believe that I was
this Machiavellian, behind-the-scenes--
- I do, Heather.
- Please don't get angry with me.
You tend to drink and call some of us--
- You know what, Heather-- - We're just the aftershock.
You're the epicenter.
- That's a fucked up thing to say to me.
- It's not. You're the town crier.
- Do I go out and drink sometimes?
For you to say I need rehab, for you to say--
paint a picture so that I'm calling
people every single night, for you to say that I can--
- I didn't say every single night.
- Breathalyze and-- - You should.
I think it's a good invention.
You need to put it on the phone.
- But you said, take a joke. Was that a joke?
- When I haven't had an intimate conversation?
- They don't want to look at all though, Shannon,
and you don't want to look at it at all.
- You don't know anything about my personal, in-depth life.
- If we don't know anything about you,
then what are you doing here?
- Let me reiterate, Gina, I don't like you.
- Yeah, I understand that.
I never done anything about you.
- And I get sick-- - And I get that.
And that's fine.
You can't say that-- - You don't like me.
- Show the truth. - It's quite clear.
- Shannon, let me ask you a question.
- Can I say something?
- You share things with people that you're
on a show with while we're filming a reality show.
You act like you don't understand how this works.
And it's an assumption of risk.
If you don't want any of us to talk about it
and you don't want it to come out--
- Don't tell us.
- That's the thing is, you can't be faulted for bringing
it up because that's our job.
- Everybody's relationships get brought up.
- I do not understand.
I'm interested because it seems like everyone here
has had private conversations with you
about your relationship.
It all got put on her by Tamra.
- I had a conv-- - And I'm curious.
- I had heard from Emily.
- I had a conversation with Gina in March of 2020
about relationships.
- And that's all I've ever said.
- I haven't had one since with her.
I had conversations with Jenn.
- But I don't think that Gina went after your relationship.
- No, I never did.
- But Gina, I'll apologize again,
I was told that you did.
- So then why don't you like me?
If all I've done is nothing to you, I don't understand it.
- From the beginning of you starting the show, you said--
- You were cruel to me.
- I your first season, when I was going
through my acrimonious divorce,
you said I masked with alcohol.
And I said, did I drink more this year?
Abso-frickin'-lutely, I did.
- Don't blame me. I am on this show too.
Our job is to say how we feel and to say the truth
about what's going on.
If that puts you in a bad situation...
- My job is-- - Shannon, then get out.
- To be Shannon Storms Beador.
- OK, well you're doing a great job of it.
- You're right.
- I'm on a reality show-- - You're Beador-ing it up.
- So I'm going to act different right now.
- That's great. But you do do that.
- I act the way I am.
- Our job is to say how we feel
and to say the truth about what's going on.
If that puts you in a bad situation--
- My job is-- - Shannon, then get off.
- To be Shannon Storms Beador. - OK.
Well, you're doing a great job of it.
- You're going to look at this and go, I'm on a reality show,
- You're Beador-ing it up. - So I'm going to act--
- That's great. - Different right now.
- No, but you do do that. - I act the way I am.
Do you know what I've done on reality TV?
I took my shirt off when I gained 42 pounds.
- OK, wow.
- Oh, my God.
- I'm the first housewife--
- We've all done stuff like that.
- We've all done stuff. - I have gone--
- Why does that make it better than anyone else?
- I've gone a step beyond in providing more details.
- You've gone a step beyond everyone else here?
- We've all done certain--
- Everyone has done that.
- Gina had a DUI.
Tamra weighed me at the gym.
I mean, we've all done it.
- I have been authentic and done things that are
very, very difficult to do.
- OK, all right.
Shannon, there were a lot of questions on Twitter
about this next topic.
Liz from Idaho Falls says, "Shannon,
"how is Heather the bad guy for talking about John when Emily
"was the first person to bring it up on camera,
"and then Tamra brought it up to you and Vicki?
Make it make sense."
- I'll tell you what happened.
Gina, Heather, and I filmed together at Gina's.
The cameras went down.
We were talking about Shannon.
We were talking about the relationship,
and Heather said something to the effect of,
when are you guys going to start following
their real relationship?
- And we've all said this, not just me,
that you don't show what's really going on,
but that was proven to be true.
- Thank you for bringing that up in front of production.
- We were already talking about your relationship.
- No, but you-- - But now, he dumped you?
- Are you together, or are you--
- No, we're not together, and I heard you said that we were.
Of course, I'm not together with him.
- I just--
- You know what, in the end, Heather,
he fucking broke up with me.
He broke my fucking heart.
- Well, that makes me sad.
And can I look back at certain scenes,
and you can see that he's checked out?
Absolutely, I can, but, I'm embarrassed.
I feel like I'm smart-- - You don't have to be--
- Like I'm a smart person-- - Embarrassed.
- That has a semi-decent head on their shoulder,
and it's like, my God, look at how he's looking at you,
or did you not see it then?
You know?
I'm embarrassed.
- You don't have to be embarrassed.
I think that the girls just want
you to be more open about it.
You can't say it off camera.
- Have enough faith that we'll help you through it.
- It feels like Shannon wants to be able to protect
her relationship.
- I wanted it to work, Jenn.
- I understand.
- We were fighting.
We were fighting so much before filming started.
You know, call me naive.
Call me in denial, whatever you want to do.
- But I feel I do.
- You've been hanging out with him a lot recently.
Are you back together? - No.
- Are you hoping?
- But you're posting with him on social media.
- I had to keep telling her, not a good idea.
- That's so confusing for you.
- I'm going through a lot right now.
Both of my kids left for college.
It's been really, really hard for me--
- It's stressful. - And you know what my kids--
- It is. - Said, Mom, if you can go out
to dinner with someone that you know instead of spending
the night by yourself--
- He's not the one. - Yeah.
- But, Shannon, he's not in it for you.
Doesn't that make you feel still tied to him and hopeful?
- You still rely on him.
Like, you need to cut ties.
I've been telling her that, and I'm like, Shannon,
why are you doing this?
- And maybe not completely over it.
Maybe it feels good to have him.
- I just don't know if you can move on
if you're just hanging out with him all the time.
- No, it's hard, it's hard.
And the conversation needs to be had.
Like, it does.
- Steven from Vancouver said, "Shannon,
"if John is a private person, why was he choosing
"to date you, an established cast member
"on a reality show that centers
around the lives of the cast?"
- That's a valid question. What's his name?
- Steven from Vancouver.
- Steven, it's a valid question.
- That is a valid question.
- What's the answer?
- I think he liked it probably, until he
got a little stung by it, and then he didn't like it.
- But, Heather, that's one of the conversations
I had with you.
I didn't know the definitive answer
because I had cast members saying,
oh, when the camera turns on, that guy lights up.
And I hated that after being with someone for three years,
I didn't know the real answer to that question.
- Shannon, Michael from New York
says, "Why can't you understand that Tamra
"is the root of all the gossip about your relationship?
Why are you giving her a pass?"
- I didn't say anything about her relationship this year.
It was, John left me in New York.
John left me at a restaurant.
Been together three years.
It's like, why doesn't he move in?
- Do you think there's trouble in paradise there?
- How old are her kids?
- 18.
- Well, you did a little.
- I also feel like that there's misplaced
aggression towards me.
- I never said I did.
I didn't go around and tell everyone.
- I didn't say that.
Why don't you listen to what I said?
I said I thought you had a smoking gun,
but then watching the show, you didn't say anything.
- Tamra, when she was with John and you had
been hearing things privately about what was going on,
did you think he wasn't the one for her?
- Absolutely.
- So what is the difference between the way you
roasted her for being in a relationship
you thought was wrong-- - Well, there was a--
- Versus her-- - This was two--
when I was on the show prior--
- Right when we first started. - I saw red flags.
She would call me, she would tell me,
he left her at a restaurant, he did this.
- He never left me at a restaurant.
But he would leave-- - He left you at New York then.
And he flew home, so that's even worse.
- No, he didn't leave me in New York either.
- Hold on, no, no, no, no, no. - I just want to--
I want to get the accurate story.
He didn't get on a plane and leave me in a city.
- What did he do? - I don't know.
We got in an argument, and he went back to the room.
- But you called me and told me he left you in New York.
- Yeah, I slept in Glam By Pam's room.
- But John's not a bad guy. That's the thing.
They just don't get along. - OK.
You think Ryan is a bad guy. - Well, I just don't--
- OK, all right.
- I don't want to talk about Ryan anymore.
But I just feel like I don't-- - I understand.
But I'm saying, you just roasted her,
and I'm wondering if you give her the same love.
- To me, it was like, that same grace was not given.
- Well, there was a lot more evidence.
There was no dick pics. There was no cheating.
There was no text messages.
They were just fighting all the time.
And I thought, he's not good for you.
Not that he's not a good guy.
- So he's not giving you the support you need--
- They're not good together.
- You're hurt, and I get that, but your pain
and everything going down in your relationship,
I was hurt by that.
And I just wish that you could just now
look at that and say, that was part of it too,
and I'm sorry, and I get that.
- This is what I'd like to say to you,
and you can take it in the spirit that it's given.
I never--
- I never pledged to not talk about your relationship.
What I promised you was that the things that you
told me that were hurtful, I will never repeat,
and I never did.
One of the things that I thought I was holding close
was when Emily said, he called you a pig
and said you were fat.
- By the way-- - I didn't say pig.
- I want to let you guys know that there's one thing
that John didn't do, but you told me that.
- And you told me too.
That was in the vault. You told two people that.
- If you mistook that, let me tell you--
- How did we both-- - We both mistook it?
- Interpret that wrong?
- He would wake up and say, why you got to be so pretty--
- May I just finish this? - Every morning--
- Listen. - When we slept together.
- I never said that I wouldn't
talk about your relationship.
That would be futile and ridiculous.
What I said was difficult, upsetting things,
details of all of that were kept close, and they were.
- Shannon, when you were upset about wearing
a bathing suit in Mexico, it was so relatable.
I think everyone watching can--
- We've all been there. - Identify with that.
I'm just curious what you thought
about Emily's assessment that the root of that--
- It was incorrect. - Was related to John Janssen.
- I want to be very clear that it's a Shannon issue.
- It didn't have anything to do with John Janssen.
- No.
Look, clearly, we're not together anymore, but--
- But--
- But I have spent time with him,
and it is something that I need to--
- Is he a friend with benefits?
- Sometimes.
- Wow.
All right, we're going to leave it there.
Anything else we need to clear up regarding this?
- Well, my makeup situation.
- Well, no, we're going to do that.
OK, all right.
We'll be right back.
Clean up Shannon's makeup.
[upbeat music]
- My biggest tweet, the whole season has been,
do you think Shannon is going to apologize to Heather?
- Oh.
- The answer is no. [laughs]
- No.
Coming up--
- Sometimes, you're an asshole.
- But we were in good terms!
I haven't even been an asshole to you yet!
- Little bit right. [phone buzzes]
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Oh, Vicki. - Oh, Jesus.
- This is hysterical.
Someone has posted a seating chart of the reunion,
and it's me with Vicki all around.
[laughter]
It's me with six Vickis. - I think she has some FOMO.
- Ready in 5, 4, 3.
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives
of Orange County" reunion.
While Annabelle was working on her model behavior,
Emily was working on her manners,
but it sometimes felt like she was reading
from an etiquette book written by her
on again, off again pal, Tamra.
Watch.
- Oh, God, what did I do now?
- Can I get two six-piece chicken nuggets,
two medium fries.
- Being a stay-at-home mom and being
so invested in their life--
She gets it from her mom!
It really brings up a lot of memories
about my own childhood.
Hi, Mom.
I just wanted to know if you wanted
to come out to Orange County.
- We've probably came from a different background
than other people.
And I think if we cracked this, I'm so tough--
- We might like each other.
- We might actually like each other.
We're both kind of scrappers, you know?
You're the one that has the phony relationship with her.
- You are a dick, Emily.
- Emily is going to the Tamra school of friendship.
- You're a liar. You're a liar. You're a liar.
Liar. - You are lying.
You are a liar.
- You're a fucking liar.
- I'm glad we're friends.
- Cheers to that, you double bitch.
- I don't trust her at all.
- I think you're a shitty friend--
- I think you're a shitty friend.
- And you've been horrible to me.
- I feel like you're being more just like aggressive
than is normal for you.
- Just because you do this with your fucking hands
doesn't it make it true either.
- I know I can be a little rough around the edges.
I have an amazing life, but there's just something
that is so deep inside of me.
It's just such hurt.
- My sister and I, that's what we
did to get through a lot of what we
had to deal with growing up.
- It seems like a lot of your anger
is deep rooted from your childhood.
- Oh, yeah.
- Why do you think that still comes up?
- Because I think it was really rough.
I mean, my relationship with my mom is so hard.
I don't have a relationship with her.
I think I talked to her the other day on the phone.
That was the first time I had talked to her since she
came out in December.
It's just-- it's all over the place.
It's not consistent.
- And there's no solution for it, and that's hard.
- Yeah.
- I'm sorry.
- In happier news, how's Annabelle?
Any more modeling?
- Yeah, she did a few jobs.
She did something for PacSun.
Then she did a whole kid's accessory line
for Carmen Sol, an Italian brand.
- That is awesome. - She's just fierce.
She's just so confident.
- Like her mom. - She's such a badass.
- She really is. - It's just--it's amazing.
She's so great.
- We saw you and Tamra get close
towards the end of the season.
How is your friendship?
- I think we're friends.
We talk a lot. We text a lot.
- Yeah, I adore her.
- Shannon, you had issues with Emily all season.
How do you feel about this new friendship
between she and Tamra.
- She doesn't love it.
- You know--and I know what it stems from because I read
my social media last night.
- What does that mean? What does it stem from?
- It's like, oh, because when we did the Teresa Mega show--
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Like I just want to go out there
not being worried that our cast is
in the audience somewhere.
And I said, we either have to invite the whole cast--
- And I wanted to. - But I think Jenn was invited.
Weren't you invited?
- But you know what, Taylor is the one who told me.
- Who invited you? - Taylor.
- Tamra reached out and said-- - I wanted her to go.
- I want to invite you, but Shannon is adamant
that you cannot be there.
- I was nervous--
- I know you're nervous. - Doing a live show.
- I know you're nervous, but you--
- But why don't you just say, I didn't want you there,
I don't like you?
Because that's the truth. - Is that what she said?
- It's not--no.
- She said that's what you said.
- Stop putting fucking words in my mouth.
- You didn't want her there because you
didn't like her at the time because the things
she said on the show!
- I didn't want certain members of the cast--
- You didn't want me there.
- No, I didn't want Gina there.
I was worried-- - Well, you don't like Gina.
You say it all the time.
- Oh, Jesus.
- Emily, Lana from Burlington, Vermont, said,
"You said at Nobu that Heather
"has a phony relationship with Tamra.
What did you mean by that?"
- Well, that's another thing that upset me because I had
heard you were friends with me only
because you were afraid of me.
- I never said the only reason I am friends with you
is because I'm afraid of you.
Why I've never gone against you is because I'm scared of you.
- You should be scared of me. - Because you get mean.
- When Tamra came back on the show,
Heather and I spent a lot of time together,
and we talked a lot about Tamra.
And Heather had a lot of negative things
to say about Tamra.
- That's not true. - It is true.
You said she was an asshole. - She is an asshole.
- Maybe we can all be assholes.
- And I love you, but sometimes, you're an asshole.
- But we were in good terms!
I haven't even been an asshole to you yet!
- But I don't remember--
- And then she comes back on the show, and you act like--
- Tamra, I don't remember what the context was.
- It's not even my package, it's yours, Judy.
You can just keep fucking talking.
So go ahead. I don't know.
I say Judy when people annoy me.
- I've always been good with you.
- But I'm sorry. It's Emily's package.
And she'd like to speak, so let's throw it back to Emily.
- Oh, thank you, Heather.
- Gina, do you think Emily is unfair with her behavior
towards Heather?
- I think that your delivery is rough,
and I think that it doesn't get you what I think you really
want out of it, because that's not indicative of how you
really want to be towards her.
- I feel like you and I had a lot of misfires,
and I think that's because you read me as being malicious.
- Aggressive maybe, but not malicious.
It's different. - But to me it's not--
to me in my head, it's not aggressive, it's passionate.
- But you made a spectacle.
I mean, I guess good for me because it
promoted the whole thing.
- Yeah, I should get a thank you note--
- But I mean, are we going to get branded with HD
on our heads?
- Heather, I think you should put
your initials on more things.
I'm surprised we didn't get branded when we got here.
- It's like so mean and rude.
- But don't you find it funny at all?
- It was funny.
- You have no sense of humor
and no ability to laugh at yourself.
- That's just fucking rude.
- Well, calling someone a mammoth is rude.
- You and I had a full conversation
about this when you were upset that I
called you a Snuffleupagus.
Of course, I didn't mean it mean, and I said it to you,
I said in a good way.
- It's a mammoth.
A Snuffleupagus is a mammoth.
- The truth was you came out of the water,
and your hair was all crazy and wiry,
and you looked like that, and that's why I said it.
I thought we were cool.
That's the problem I have with it.
- I guess I can't get past it, that it's a mammoth.
I don't know.
- And by the way, at some point,
it's not all my fault.
- Yeah, but here's the thing, Heather.
I say you look like a whale trainer,
and then I hear from other people
that you say I was an asshole, and I should be fired.
- I never said you should be fired.
- You told me that she said that.
- That is not true.
- Well, you didn't like her,
and you didn't want her on the show.
- Oh, my God, Tamra, that is a lie,
and now I'm gonna remind you what happened.
You were texting me hideous things about Emily,
and you went on "Watch What Happens Live" and you went,
you know who I love?
I love Emily-- you did a total 180.
- Wait a minute, I said all last season that Emily
was the breakout star.
- That's when it happened.
- No, I did that prior on my podcast.
I'm not going to deny, I did not like this bitch,
but we're in a good place now,
so why do you try to break that down?
- I'm just telling you that is exactly what happened.
- Coming up...
- I didn't call anyone a loser.
- Bullshit.
- There's a lot of hair on this side of the couch.
- You think?
They're all straight over there.
They all have straight hair over there
and pageant hair over here.
- You look like a country singer.
- Me? - No, Shannon.
I love big hair. I love it.
- There's a lot of big hair over here.
- No, I love it. - Thank you.
- They didn't weight the hair out evenly on the sides.
- I love it that you'll go with big hair.
- 5, 4, 3.
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives
of Orange County Reunion."
You know, whether these women were whooping it up in Mexico
or shoveling poop in Montana, they always
managed to have a ball, even when they
found one on a river raft.
Remember that?
Let's revisit your most memorable moments on vacation.
- Here we come. - Fun vacation.
Shannon has just landed.
[all shouting]
- I think I just shit myself.
I just thought getting out of Orange County
would be really fun.
- Oh, my God!
- Doing all the things that we normally don't do.
- We got a shovel and a rake.
Pick your poison.
- If you want me to shovel shfuck
- Oh, Heather.
- At least give me a Chanel shovel.
[screaming]
- Shannon, are you going to do this?
- It's too vagina.
I have a bony vagina.
- So always keep a hand down the shaft.
- I don't like that word, shaft.
- Kevin's balls are hanging out of his little, mini shorts.
- It was like purple and kind of shriveled.
- And I thought I was going to die.
- Who was the first to notice K-Dog's ball was coming out?
- I think it was me. - Shocking.
- Yeah.
- Well, he had short shorts on, even shorter than yours.
And every time he'd row-- - It peeked out.
It just came out. - One would just pop out.
- Did he want his balls on television?
- I don't know, but--
- Did he sign a release?
- He was literally, like, he had short shorts on, like,
really short shorts on.
- Did he ever figure it out?
- Well, you know how he figured it out?
- When he saw it on the show?
- No, so I was with Jeff Lewis and Shane,
and it happens to be Shane's cousin.
He came up to me in BravoCon, and he goes--
- That is Jeff's co-host on the radio.
- Co-host.
He goes, oh, my God, my cousin filmed
with you guys in Montana.
I go, who? He goes, Kevin.
I go, oh, my God, we saw his balls, like that.
And he was like, oh, my God.
- Shannon, Sarah from Eugene, Oregon,
wants to know, what exactly is a bony vagina,
and is this a self-diagnosis?
- Oh, it's just there are certain things
that might be uncomfortable, like a Peloton seat.
I just need little padding.
- I think it's funny.
- I want to feel it. I want to feel the bone.
Wait. - There's a bone right there.
- There's a bone. - It's bony.
- Can you just hold my-- with your vagina?
- No. - She has a bony vagina.
I don't know if you've heard.
- All right, we're going to leave it there.
When rumors swirled about who called who
a loser at BravoCon, several fingers quickly pointed to HD,
but it turns out the picture of what really happened
is blurrier than anyone thought.
So who really was the con here?
Take a look.
- Those eggs come right out of that bitch's vagina.
No thank you. - I like this.
- Thank you.
- Heather told me that Shannon apparently said bad things
about Gina and me at BravoCon.
- That's not what happened.
Tamra was the one that was talking about you guys.
- I was repeating what you told me.
You said, I'm with a bunch of fucking losers.
- I tried to be a good friend to you this entire
time, Heather.
You talk shit about me behind my back!
- You're going to believe that from the one
you're warning me against?
- If she will not admit the things that she said,
there will be no moving forward with me.
- She's the one that said it.
- Heather is rallying the troops.
- She thinks she's better than us.
- You're not destroying me, bitch.
- Are you fucking kidding me?
- Let's play your podcast.
Goodbye, bitch.
[dramatic music]
- All right, where did the whole loser's comment start?
Because you and Tamra have very different accounts.
- We do. Do you want to start?
- I don't think Heather remembers.
So basically, what happened before I got brought back
on the show, Heather said something on her podcast
that if anybody should come back, it should be Alexis.
And so I texted her, and I go, what is going on?
And I go, every time you get asked who should come back
when I've always rallied for you,
you will always say Alexis Bellino.
- Which former housewife would you like
to see returned for Season 17?
I've said this before, but I really mean this, Alexis.
- And she goes, well, you know they'll never bring her back.
That's why I say that.
So I said, but don't you want what's best for the show?
And she goes, what do you expect?
I'm working with a bunch of fucking losers.
- But that's not what happened.
- That is exactly what happened.
- No, it's not.
I was giving interviews when I came
back last season like this:
The show is great, the cast is gelling, we're all terrific,
and you were like, Heather, really?
Give me a break.
And I go, what do you want me to say?
This is what they gave me to work with.
I didn't call anyone a loser.
No, I didn't.
- Bullshit.
- I didn't.
- Emily, Kendall from Wilmington, North Carolina,
said, "Where were you and Gina when Heather first
"told you some very bad things were
said about you at BravoCon?"
- We were taking photos for the promo shots.
We were in LA, and the three of us
were in a room together getting hair and makeup.
Gina was getting her hair blow dried,
so I feel like that's where I miss who she was talking
about, but she said blah, blah, blah
was talking about you at BravoCon
and said very bad things.
And she did this with her finger,
because I remember the fingernail, very bad things.
I'm not done. Let me finish.
And then I said, really?
What did she say?
And you said, oh, no. No, no, no.
It's in the vault, so I'm not going to tell you.
That's exactly what you said. - No, I didn't.
- Yes, you did.
You said-- no, no, no, it's in the vault.
I'm not going to tell you, and that's why I was upset.
- What I said to you in that dressing room,
stupidly, in the dressing room because I thought
the three of us were having a private conversation
because you all have conversations
all the time that don't get repeated,
but I mistakenly said when we were all--
- Don't turn this around.
You're turning it around, and you're making
yourself out to be the victim.
If you were--
- By the way, I'm not making myself out to be a victim.
- Yes, you are.
- I think that you just need to own what you said.
- That's exactly what you're doing.
No, it's poor Heather, poor Heather,
poor Heather the whole fucking time, this whole day.
You're supposed to be my friend, but all I'm saying
is, I remember what you said.
- Oh, my God!
Do you have a whistle?
[dramatic music]
- If you know the whole time that it was Tamra
who said something bad about Emily and Gina,
why torture Shannon--
- But I didn't.
- The whole trip, making her think
it was her that said something?
- I didn't know what Emily was talking about.
- You did know what I was talking about.
- No, I didn't. - Yes, you did.
I think you took advantage of the fact
that I fucked up the names, and you made
it sound like I was crazy.
- I didn't know what you were talking about.
- I don't remember where you heard--
when I asked you what was said, you wouldn't tell me,
so let me ask you this.
What was your intent in telling me that?
- My mistake was mentioning everything,
and as soon as it came out of my mouth,
I knew it was a mistake.
But you know what--excuse me, instead of coming to me
and saying, what did she say--
- I didn't see you after that. - Yeah, you did.
- It was at your party, and I wasn't
going to bring it up there.
- Oh, but you brought it up to everyone else
and made a big deal--
- Well, I wasn't going to--
- And make a jerk of yourself.
- And that's your opinion.
That's your opinion.
- It's my opinion that you made a jerk out of yourself?
OK, you were perfectly behaved at my party.
- No, I wasn't, but from now on--
- Look, she was funny, right? She was funny.
Everybody was saying she's funny.
- Boring and appropriate, from now on, at all HD events.
- But you said to Gina, she was like, why are you so mad?
You go, I'm mad that she won't tell me what Shannon said,
but you never came back to me and talked about it to me.
I would have told you--
- But you guys were partying. - You were wrong.
- You were fighting.
- So, Heather, you claimed you were calling Noella a loser.
- No, I never said that. That got twisted around.
- No, you said, your instant response was,
I was talking about Dr. Jen and Noella.
- It did not come out correctly.
What I meant was, when you and I had that conversation
about cast members, I wasn't talking about them.
- Are you saying that--
- That is what I'm trying to say.
- All right, so let me ask you this--
- Heather, are you saying that you and I never had
a conversation about cast members?
- Oh, we've had many conversations, yes.
- OK.
- And you said you didn't think Gina should come back.
- Shannon and I had many conversations
over many different times that talked about everyone here,
and that is the truth, and I'm sorry if that is hurtful,
but in different scenarios, but it was like a what if.
What if we came back, and one person didn't--
it was conversations like that.
- I would have to assume-- - I'm sorry.
- That those are fairly common conversations--
- They are. - That you all have.
- I have conversations-- - But also--
- But the difference is, if I say it,
it's pulled out and dissected, and that is the difference.
You're telling me you guys don't talk about this?
- I'm saying that, that I have had conversations--
- Gina's telling everyone that I won't be back,
that she's not gonna film with me in all-cast events.
- Are you saying that? - Listen, Shannon.
I'm not saying-- I want to be clear about that.
Let me clear that up. - I don't think so.
- I'm telling you this right now.
And I'm telling this.
I am not giving, like, an ultimatum with that.
I'm not doing a me or you. It's a me thing.
I don't know if I'm willing to do this anymore.
I'm not saying--and I accept
that there's a possibility where--
- You told Taylor twice that,
oh, Shannon Storms Beador isn't coming back next year.
- I have never said that!
I have only said, I may not come back.
- She said you told Taylor that.
- I have not.
I've only said I may not--
- She said she doesn't-- - This is very upsetting to me.
This comment about my children.
I do too 'cause I've never said that.
This comment about my children has been very upsetting to me.
And to be honest, I don't know if I can do this
because I tried last year to say please don't bring this up.
It comes up again, and it's very upsetting to me.
And at a certain point, I have to say,
when is enough enough for me?
And I accept that you go head to head,
that you might be more valuable here than me,
but that's not what it's about to me.
- Taylor was on a flight with you.
- Just two days ago. - And you.
- It was a couple days ago.
- Yeah, and I said that exact thing.
- She said that you said you're not worried about Shannon
because she's getting fired.
- I never said that.
- All right, moving on.
OK, what did Tamra say at BravoCon?
- I sat down on a table and I said, you're
hanging out with the losers.
Because you had said that to me.
I was joking.
- By the way, you had said terrible things
about everyone that was still on the show
when you weren't on the show.
- But we're not talking about that, so fuck off.
- OK, but I mean, it's a double standard.
- OK--no, why are you trying to throw a wrench in it?
- Well, because I'm just pointing out that you
were calling them losers.
- Right, and because she said it, it's like OK?
- No. - OK, then be quiet.
- Oh.
- Heather, this is what hurt my feelings,
and this is what made me so upset,
is we sat down at that wine bar after the pumpkin party,
and we said, I'm sorry we've gotten this way.
Let's get back on track.
I'm not going to talk about anything anymore.
I love you. Life is good.
- We need to deal with each other in a better way.
- All right, cheers to that. - All right.
- I'm sorry, I don't ever want to hurt your feelings.
And then a couple days later, you go and tell them,
Tamra said horrible things about you.
What was your intention?
- I stupidly said that, and as soon as I said it,
I went, fuck.
And then you went and ran with it.
I understand why you're upset that I didn't tell you what.
I wish you had come to me, and I would
have talked to you privately and not made it a thing.
- Gina, why didn't you follow your own advice
in not trusting Tamra when Heather said it was
Tamra who called you losers?
- I should have. I think I should have.
- But you guys also sat there and compared stories and said,
Heather said I should remove myself from you.
Why did you tell Emily that she should move away from me
at the beginning of this year, and why did you tell me
that I should move away from her
at the beginning of this year?
- Because I thought it was very important for each
of you to develop your own identity.
But we've talked about that.
I was trying to be helpful.
It wasn't meant to be negative.
I didn't mean it that way.
- Yes, it was. You pulled me to the side.
- I would have said, you-- - And you said, you know what--
- Emily, you really need to separate yourself from Gina.
It's not good for you. It's not good for your career.
- I didn't say it like that. - Yes, you did.
And then she and I compared notes.
- Oh, my God, that's such a twist.
What I said was, it's important to have your own identity.
- OK, I'm sorry.
You see everything accurately, and I fuck it all up.
- That's not what I said, but I'm allowed to--
- I do know what you said. I do get some things right.
- Oh, I know you're so factually correct all the time.
- I got a pretty high rate.
- You said, I said about Shannon, it was like--
- I messed up the name.
- You messed up the whole thing.
It was like a game of Clue. You're Colonel Mustard--
- I remember what you said.
- In the billiard room with a rope.
- Emily, I'm not going to tell you.
- Or Professor Plum-- - Heather.
- In the kitchen with a knife.
- Oh, that was a good one, Heather.
Good job.
- Shannon, Preston from Ann Arbor, Michigan,
said, "Do you feel Heather
"was jealous that Tamra came back
and took away her alpha status from last season?"
- I have no alpha status.
I never had it.
- I know, but I'm asking Shannon.
- But she kept referring to me as like--
- If you want to be the alpha--
- Head cheerleader and this and the top dog.
I didn't want that.
- That wasn't about you, that was about how
you were being treated.
What do you mean?
- There's a lot of ego involved in this show, so I don't know.
I'm not inside her head.
- Can I just say something to you, Shannon?
I just want you to know, when you texted me the other day,
I was so happy that you called me, that you texted me.
And I just want you to know that even though I don't know
why you don't see who I am and you feel
these things about me, it makes me incredibly sad,
but it was really nice to talk to you
and have that moment with you.
- I feel that that's how our relationship has
been, Heather, that I can spend time
like you talk about in Cancun.
- It's when we're not together, things go awry,
and why is that?
- I'm like, wow, I really get along with this girl.
- If you wanted to have a relationship with me,
maybe we can figure out a way to do this a bit better.
- Which is why I said to you, if you have a concern,
talk to me about it.
Don't talk to all these other people about it.
- We all talked. It wasn't just me.
- Well, Jenn, what do you think of this?
- I wish I understood it.
I was not at BravoCon, and it was so frustrating.
- Next season.
- Yeah, it was very frustrating, to be honest,
coming in new because they've been together for so long,
and there's things that they have shared with each other
that sometimes--and the vault.
Like Shannon, you're right,
because when I heard about the vault,
I was imagining some bad shit.
- It wasn't my intention.
- Well, Tamra, where do you now go with Heather?
- I love Heather. I've always loved Heather.
It's been really difficult, not having Heather in my life
in the past year.
She's always-- every birthday, even when
we weren't even close, every birthday, every Christmas,
even my anniversary, she would send
me and Eddie a text message.
And then since this has been totally sideways,
it's hurt me bad.
I just want to move forward.
I want to get back to where we were and just
put all this behind us.
- Heather, how about you with Tamra?
- I mean, I said it from the beginning,
I've been incredibly sad.
I mean, I think for different reasons,
every single one of us sitting around here
has had a difficult year.
It's been a tough year. - It's been a tough year.
- And so as far as I'm concerned,
the more friends, the better.
I said it to you this season, in the 12 years
I've known you, you're the best I've ever seen you.
You look great. Your marriage is great.
Your kids are good.
You're successful.
All of it's good, and I said to you, why are you so angry?
What is going on?
And that's the thing I couldn't figure out all season.
- I came into the season in a hard time.
Like, it was fucking hard closing our gym down.
It was hard saying goodbye to all those people.
- And Bronx. - And Bronx.
My dog died a couple weeks before the--
at 14 years, died.
There was a lot that was hit, and then
I didn't know where my place was,
and I'm not trying to make excuses.
I drank way too much, way too much,
and I'm an asshole when I drink.
- Well, I'm happy that you two are
ending this reunion in a better place
than you ended the season.
- I think I've said this a million times before,
but she's my housewife maker.
So it's like a vampire when they bite you,
you love them forever.
- And I know, and I love you.
I appreciate you.
I'm sorry if you felt alienated from this group.
It's not what I intended at all.
- Gina, when are you getting married?
- I don't know.
- Do we get a wedding next season?
- If I get a rock like this.
- Well, we all want a rock like that.
5, 4, 3.
- We are back, and we've reached the end of the season
17, "Real Housewives of Orange County" reunion,
but before we go, I want to add this nice tweet
from Jack in New York.
He said, "I don't have a question.
I just want to say, this cast is perfection."
- It is.
- "I'm going to really miss this season."
And with that sentiment in mind,
I want to go around and ask everyone what you're going
to miss from this season.
Emily? - Oh, I'm first?
I mean, I'll miss the fun.
There were a lot of fun, funny times, you know?
And I think that was good because I think
for the last couple of years, there wasn't that element
of fun and camaraderie.
So I think that was really great.
- Jenn.
- It was my first season.
I'm never going to have another first experience like this
ever again.
And so even after we wrapped,
it was this weird feeling of like,
where did everybody go, you know?
I just--I missed everyone.
So just the first experiences. - Gina.
- There are things that you miss,
but there's also some things that you're happy
to just move past, honestly.
- Shannon.
- I always miss the vacations because that's always
fun for me, but--
I said I'm not going to cry again--
I'm going to miss filming with my kids.
- Aww.
- Heather.
- I think for all of the ups and downs of the season,
I mean, I do really love all of you.
You do have this sisterhood, this sorority of women.
And I know that if any of you call me, or I call any of you,
that you're going to answer, and I'm going to answer.
- That's so sweet, and I kind of take it back
because I will miss your house.
- We're going to miss Ponderosas.
- I have news. There's a better one coming.
- Tamra, what about you?
- Well, what am I going to miss?
Not much, bitch.
However, I will say, what I am looking
forward to for next season, if you have me back.
I look forward to seeing Ryan in a different way.
- Thank you. - And to see you happy.
- Thank you.
- And hopefully, everything--
- And accept her happiness.
- And accept your happiness and to not go there ever again
- Thank you. - That's nice.
I think it's nice we've left off predominantly in really
good places for most of you,
and I appreciate you all willing to come in here
and figure it all out.
I think this was, as far as reunions go,
a really successful time.
You all are going out tonight?
- Yep, we're going out. - Where are we going?
- We're going to Heather's new house in Beverly Hills.
- Great, great.
- Drinks are on me.
- I think that's so great.
That makes me so happy.
That means that we actually put in really good work today.
- I think that all of us really love each other.
- The point is for us all to come to this resolve--
- To figure it out. - And move on.
- And you did, and I really appreciate it and respect it.
- I think we all legitimately care about one another.
- Respect each other. - And we do.
And I know there's a lot of pettiness.
It's like a pressure cooker and the he said and she said,
and we all--
I explode sometimes, but I mean, I love Heather,
genuinely, and I mean that.
- I love you, too.
- Heather, Gina, and Emily, since you
were absent from Shannon's taco party,
you didn't get to meet Señor Noodles.
- I know Señor Noodles.
- You do? - Yeah.
- Oh, you do? - I had him for Shane's party.
- We have some tequila shots.
- Oh, let's stand up.
- Gina, we have a Red Bull for you.
- Are you taking tequila? - Yeah.
Who wants to lead us in a toast?
- Can I just say, Heather, do not break the shot glass.
- I didn't mean to.
- I just want to say, thank you all for accepting me back.
I'm glad that we have this core group of girls
that fucking killed it this year.
- Cheers to you, you devil bitch.
- Yeah, you fucking Satan.
- Oh, wow. Welcome back.
- Thank you. - I'm not throwing it, but--
- Really?
- Mm.
- Whew.
- Done and done. - That was great.
- I'm gonna see you, like, in a week.
- All right, whoo!
- Whoo-hoo!
Motherfucker--whoo!
Whoo! Might have twisted my ankle.
* *
I love you. I'm sorry.
- OK, but you have to be honest about it.
- Yeah, honest. - No, I'm burying it, done.
- Yeah, buried, done.
Buried. - And your swearing that to me.
- Swear to God. - OK.
I love you. - I love you.
I just want the best for you. That's all I want.
I just want what is best for you.
- Look, I found some Twizzlers.
- Come say hi to Terry.
Terry. - What?
- Come here. - Just waiting for my car.
I'm just waiting for my car.
- Are you hitchhiking or are you--
- I don't know. I may be needing a cab.
- Yes, I just want to stay here for a minute.
[both laugh]
It just feels good to stay right here.
- How are you? - We're best buds now.
- Really? - Yeah.
- Yes! - You're happy.
- Head cheerleader!
- Yes! We're going to.
- You got the text-- - Bye, guys.
all: Bye. - Love you!
See you next week. - It's so good to--
- Yes! - It's good, it's good.
- I'm gonna dry hump her!
- I lay in bed at night and eat Twizzlers.
- You do? - Don't tell Shane.
- [chuckles] - I'm just kidding.
He knows.
- Let's go party.
- Tamra, your car's back here. - Oh.
- How are you? - It's a fucking wrap!