1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Hey, Dad. It's Cathy. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Their prodigal daughter returns home. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,120 I didn't want to be there, but I had to be. 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,600 To the place that haunted her youth. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,760 I could feel the dread start to come in the room. 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,000 I couldn't scream. I couldn't do anything. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Only to find the house won't give up its ghosts. 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Something dark is definitely up there. 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,560 I had no control. 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,360 In this world there is real evil. 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Someone's in my room. 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,400 It lurks in the darkest shadows. 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Between what we see and the things we fear... 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,640 there are doors. 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,320 When they are opened... 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,800 nightmares become reality. 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,520 The town of Bergen in upstate New York 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,920 was founded in 1812, 19 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,760 a community of farmers and lumber workers 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 carved their future out of the region's 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,320 dense woods and fertile soil. 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,880 But they were not the first to inhabit this ancient land. 23 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,120 Bergen sits on the edge of a vast primordial swamp. 24 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,080 For over 10,000 years, 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,720 its black creeks still pulse through the wetlands, 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,240 bringing new life to age-old darkness. 27 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,720 You have to pick the right kind of plants to put in this soil. 28 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,520 They all can't survive here. 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,480 It is here, at the edge of the swamp, 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,960 where Cathy Heglund grew up. 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,120 My parents moved to Bergen in the late fifties... 32 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,960 and they found this old farmhouse out in the country 33 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,640 that they could afford. 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,680 My father thought he would fix it up 35 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,400 and he'd have a little land and a bigger home. 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,520 My father was in the backyard 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,800 tilling up a garden space for my mother 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,640 to have a vegetable garden. 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,480 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS 40 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,360 What is it, Dad? 41 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,280 And he uncovered part of a woman's body. 42 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:02,960 There was tufts of hair that were still curled. 43 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,120 You could tell that this woman had red hair. 44 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,280 There were seven or eight vertebrae from like a spine. 45 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,040 That looks like a piece of a lady's dress. 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,920 Do you think? Don't. It's nothing for you to worry about, Cathy. 47 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,160 I want you to go inside now. 48 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,640 Go inside. Now. 49 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,960 I have no idea if the authorities were ever called. 50 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 We didn't really talk about that incident after that. 51 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Cathy sensed that there was something unusual about her home 52 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 and the land it sat upon. 53 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,920 JINGLING 54 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,800 One night I noticed a shadow in the corner. 55 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,240 I could feel the dread start to come in the room, 56 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 that creepy feeling that makes you just want to run and hide. 57 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,840 And I remember the room got very, very, very cold. 58 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,280 And I couldn't move. The only thing I could move was my eyes. 59 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,440 It was like I was paralysed. 60 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 I couldn't scream. I couldn't do anything. 61 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,440 MUSIC INTENSIFIES 62 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Cathy. Cathy. Are you OK? 63 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Are you OK? Shh. What happened? 64 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,160 I don't know. I, I don't... God, come here. 65 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,400 It took me a few minutes to gather myself 66 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,640 so I could even think to tell my dad what my side of the story was. 67 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,600 You all right? Tell me you're OK. 68 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,760 I'm OK. 69 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Cathy tells her father what she remembers. 70 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 He would listen to me and he would be afraid for me 71 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,160 but he didn't know what to do. 72 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Cathy, we can't let our fears get the best of us, OK? 73 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,440 You understand? 74 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,360 We have to be careful who we talk to about this stuff 75 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,480 because most people don't believe in ghosts. 76 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,800 But, Dad. Put it out of your mind. 77 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,920 OK? 78 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,160 My father wasn't as open 79 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,920 to acknowledging some of the things that were going on in the house, 80 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,840 I think, because he didn't know how to handle those things. 81 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,040 He didn't know how to protect us from those things. 82 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Nothing here can hurt you. OK? 83 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,040 I think in his mind, if he ignored it 84 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 and he didn't give it any attention, it would go away. 85 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,720 But it didn't go away. 86 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,040 As soon as she could leave Bergen, 87 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Cathy started a new life in Rochester, New York. 88 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,560 When I was old enough to get married and I moved out of the house, 89 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,480 it was a great relief to me. 90 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,880 She starts her own family, builds her own home... 91 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,320 And tries to forget about the nightmare in Bergen. 92 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,040 I actually tried to convince my father 93 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,840 to sell that house more than once... 94 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,720 to get my mother out of there. Hey, Dad. 95 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,680 He was very firm that he would never sell that house. 96 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Hey, Dad, it's Cathy. 97 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Dad? 98 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,520 What do you got here? Oh, Dad. 99 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,480 MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING 100 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,480 You're OK. 101 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,080 He actually became sick and had to go into a nursing home. 102 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,240 We were gone for eight years. 103 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Eight years that house stood like that. 104 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Like the day we just shut the door. 105 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:47,320 By 2018, Cathy's children are grown and her marriage has ended. 106 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,320 Health problems have forced her into early retirement 107 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,320 and taken a toll on her finances, 108 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,440 leaving her only one place to go. 109 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,400 She returns to the Bergen house with her new boyfriend. 110 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,680 Could be worse. Could it? 111 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,160 Only one way to find out. 112 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,840 During that time period, 113 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,160 people had been breaking into the house, 114 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,760 because they realized it was empty and it's off the road. 115 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Stealing antiques, dropping garbage off. 116 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 I don't know where to start. Come on now. 117 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,360 We're in this together. 118 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,760 I just can't believe I had to move back here. 119 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,800 I promised myself I'd never move back. 120 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,680 It'll be OK. 121 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,840 It'll be great. We'll make the best of it. 122 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,880 I'm glad you're here with me. 123 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,680 I didn't want to be there. 124 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,560 I didn't want to be there, but I had to be there. 125 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,440 The idea was that we would fix up the house, 126 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,720 try to get it cleared, sell it, move on with our lives. 127 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,280 The very first night, my boyfriend, he fell asleep rather quickly. 128 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,400 I was very nervous. I got that old familiar feeling. 129 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,720 -JINGLING -INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING 130 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Hey, wake up. Wake up! 131 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,160 What's wrong? What happened? 132 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Look. 133 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,680 It brought back all of those fears I had as a kid. 134 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 MUSIC INTENSIFIES 135 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,400 It was like it got to the end of the bed 136 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,000 and it would just disappeared. It was just gone. 137 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,000 Sorry, Cath. I'm not sleeping in this bed. 138 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:42,680 Air mattress. Living room. I'm not sleeping in this house. 139 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,360 What? 140 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Come with me, Cath. 141 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,680 Or don't. I, I just can't. 142 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,400 JINGLING CONTINUES 143 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960 I did feel like this might be a mistake 144 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,640 moving back into this house. 145 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,640 But yet that was my family home. 146 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,000 When I thought about home as a kid, that's what I thought of. 147 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,200 So even though I was terrified, that was also my comfort. 148 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,400 SERENE MUSIC PLAYING 149 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,360 Give your mum a hug. 150 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,250 00:23:39.880 -- 00:23:41.880 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS 151 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Thanks for coming, sweetheart. Hey, Mum. 152 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,240 You remember Justin. Justin, so good to see you. 153 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,640 I'd say pardon the mess, but it is way too far gone for that. 154 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,400 I saw someone behind her. 155 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,960 So, what do you think? Can we salvage this wreck? 156 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,640 It was like their face was coming through her face. 157 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Justin is a good, good family friend. 158 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,240 It was almost like they were pushing through her from the back. 159 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Out of the kindness of his heart he volunteered to help us 160 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,720 try to clean it up a little bit. 161 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,200 It's gonna take a lot of work but, yeah, it's under there somewhere. 162 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Janet. Are you OK? 163 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,800 Can you hear me? 164 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Let me show you around before you get too optimistic. 165 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Janet? Janet? 166 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,160 Janet? Janet? 167 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,800 I called to her and she wasn't responding. 168 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520 You OK? 169 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480 Can you hear me now? 170 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,880 Yeah, I just feel like someone walked across my grave or something. 171 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,880 I was like, "Janet!" You know, a little bit louder. 172 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,880 Yeah, what was that? 173 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,120 It was definitely a warm day when I walked in. 174 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,640 I just remember kind of feeling dazed, 175 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,920 like sort of out of it. 176 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080 And I walked in and I felt, definitely felt a chill. 177 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,800 I got something here. 178 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 Just kinda sent hairs up my spine a little bit. 179 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,400 Look at this. 180 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,040 It's a strange old house. What do you mean? 181 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,640 Come to find out, after reviewing the video and the pictures... 182 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Make yourself useful. 183 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:53,520 there was a spirit that had stepped inside of my body. 184 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,440 You could actually see another face over the top of hers. 185 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,400 After a full day of sifting through years of debris, 186 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,880 It's a very creepy photo because, 187 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,400 Justin and Mack settle in for the night. 188 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,240 in the photo, the face that's turned to look at you, 189 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,880 I'm done, man. Yeah, me too. 190 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 the eyes are completely black. 191 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Hey, you crash upstairs. I'll take the couch. Cool. 192 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,520 The woman who died here. She needs our help. 193 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,200 OK. 194 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,040 Cathy reaches out to a local historian, 195 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,800 in hopes of identifying the woman who died in her barn. 196 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720 The town historian is the one that told us about the woman 197 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,240 who hung herself in the barn. Katherine. 198 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520 I am with child. 199 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,240 It was like someone put their hand on me... 200 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040 With your child. 201 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,160 and just fully extended their arm. 202 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Come to find out that this young girl 203 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160 Are you OK? Yeah, I think so. 204 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,800 actually had an affair 205 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,000 with one of the married Justices of the Peace at the time. 206 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,680 I felt the initial fall of when my butt hit the stairs. 207 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,560 I remember my head hitting, 208 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960 And when he found out she was pregnant, 209 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,640 but I don't, I didn't... there was no pain. 210 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,120 he broke off the relationship. 211 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,800 You want my counsel? 212 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,720 My head didn't hurt. 213 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,400 Did you see anybody? No. 214 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,720 End it. 215 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 It was like bouncing your head off of a mattress. 216 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:11,960 Be rid of it. 217 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,720 To be an unmarried young woman pregnant... 218 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,400 I can't explain it other than, 219 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 no, her whole life was over with. 220 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,280 whatever it was didn't want me to get hurt. 221 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,760 They just didn't want me there. They didn't want me upstairs. 222 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080 Something dark is definitely up there. 223 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,640 DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING 224 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,480 We slept in the living room. 225 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,320 In the morning, Justin tells Cathy about his experience in the house. 226 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Hey, boys. Here you go. 227 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,520 Thanks, Mum. Thank you. 228 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Miss Cathy? 229 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,160 You know how you said to give this house a chance? 230 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,320 Yeah. I think I know what you meant. 231 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,160 Something happen? 232 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480 Yeah. 233 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Her family wouldn't help or anything. 234 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,560 They would turn their back on you back in those days, you know? 235 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,400 I let him tell me his story. 236 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,680 So, she became very despondent and, and took her life. 237 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040 I let him know that I believed him. 238 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Yeah, I was like, "So I'm not..." 239 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040 She's like, "No, you're not, you're not crazy. No." 240 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,720 Because of the aggressive nature of the hauntings, 241 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Have you ever seen anything? 242 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,640 Cathy invites investigator and psychic Tim Shaw 243 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,120 Yes. 244 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,000 to help get answers to the questions 245 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:27,600 I mean as a kid, I saw a lot. There was crazy stuff that happened. 246 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,320 that have plagued her since childhood. 247 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,880 Oh, come in. 248 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Dad told me not to talk about it ever so... 249 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,040 You must be Cathy. Mr. Shaw. 250 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Janet knew Reverend Tim Shaw and she mentioned the house to him. 251 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,920 yes, a lot. 252 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,200 I asked, "What are they?" She goes, "I'm not really sure who they are." 253 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 And he wanted to come see it for himself 254 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,880 Do you know what they want? 255 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,760 and experience it for himself. 256 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,800 No. 257 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,200 Let me see. What can I tell you? 258 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,280 I haven't even really thought about what they want. 259 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600 If you don't mind. I'd like to take a walk 260 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,320 around the house first myself. 261 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,440 Whenever I go to a "haunted house", 262 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,120 Cathy decides it is time to seek definite answers 263 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,040 about who or what is haunting her house. 264 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,280 I'll do a cold walk, 265 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,760 which means I want to go, and I want to read the energy in the house. 266 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,880 We had a neighbour, he suggested, you know, you meet this woman, 267 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,520 I want to get impressions. I want to go in every single room. 268 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320 she could enlighten you on some of the other things 269 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,480 I want the house to tell me what's going on. 270 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,360 that are going on there because Janet is a psychic medium. 271 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,160 Of course. Let me know if you need anything. 272 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Thank you. 273 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,640 I'm so glad you could join me, Janet. 274 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,680 Thank you so much for calling me. 275 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040 How did you, um, find out about me? 276 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,840 I'm standing in the home of Cathy Heglund. 277 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:26,080 Scott told me that you might be willing to talk to me. 278 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Because I had never spoken to a psychic medium before, 279 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,120 I'm kind of looking around and I got like a sick feeling 280 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,000 in my solar plexus. 281 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,800 I, I was fascinated and intrigued but I was also a little sceptical. 282 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,120 And the first thing that you learn about if you work with exorcists 283 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480 or demonologists... 284 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,240 if you get a little butterfly in your solar plexus, 285 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,880 How did you figure out that you're a, oh, what's the right word? 286 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,520 that usually means there's something that's not 287 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,440 real happy that you're there. 288 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Psychic? Right. 289 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Well, I guess I always knew, 290 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,200 but it took me a long time to call it what it is. 291 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800 I was walking up the stairs 292 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440 I realised that I was a psychic medium when I was a child 293 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,360 and I got about halfway, and I got a gentle push. 294 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,400 and I'd be in my bedroom at night 295 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,720 and I would see and feel things that would scare me. 296 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Felt it like right in my chest, 297 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120 centralized, like somebody had just put their hand out. 298 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,360 I would see figures come in and out of the room. 299 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Said, "Stop." 300 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,360 There's definitely something here. 301 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,920 At first, I was afraid. 302 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,840 It's stronger on the second floor. 303 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,880 I, I tried to block them out, just to pretend they weren't there. 304 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640 The same thing happened to me. 305 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,720 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS 306 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200 When I was much older, I told my mother finally 307 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600 TIM GASPS 308 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,800 that I had these abilities and, uh, she started to believe it. 309 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480 And I was like, what the hell did I hit? What did I... 310 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Erm, my father I never really could tell. 311 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,120 It was one of those things that you didn't really talk about 312 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,160 Was there something here? 313 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,280 because you were told you were crazy, or it wasn't real. 314 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040 EERIE MUSIC PLAYING 315 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Eventually I started helping other people 316 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 who were having those same experiences. 317 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,080 How do you help them? 318 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Well, I visit people's homes and I tell them what I sense there. 319 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040 I'm in the upstairs bedroom. 320 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,920 Sometimes I see things that happened a long time ago. 321 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Whatever attacked me on the stairs seems to have backed off. 322 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,440 It, in my mind's eye. 323 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,960 I feel things that people felt there. 324 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 If the house is truly haunted, 325 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,320 I went to the back window 326 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040 and I looked out. And I'm looking into the swamp. 327 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800 I try to communicate with the spirits that remain. 328 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,280 We definitely had a lot in common 329 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,160 and she had asked me 330 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,760 if I would like to come over and visit the haunted Bergen house. 331 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,600 Would you be willing to come 332 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,240 to my house to see what you sense there? 333 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,440 I'm not afraid of you. And you can't hide from me. 334 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000 I would love to. Thank you. 335 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360 INTENSE MUSIC GROWS 336 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160 I kinda gave her a tour. I walked her around. 337 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,040 I told her what I knew. 338 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880 The original house was built in 1858 339 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,640 but most of the rooms were added in the 1880s and 1930s. 340 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,600 Mr. Shaw. Is everything OK? Yes. 341 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680 But I thought I saw someone out there. 342 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480 I said how do I get out to, in the middle of that swamp 343 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200 SERENE MUSIC PLAYING 344 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,120 so I can look at the house? There's not really a way to get out there. 345 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,840 What do you mean? 346 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,160 I just saw a guy standing in the middle of that damn swamp. 347 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,280 There's no path. It's just swamp. 348 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760 It's full of copperheads and God knows what else. 349 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,720 What is it, Dad? 350 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,250 00:31:14.840 -- 00:31:17.400 Tim Shaw's experience gives him an idea 351 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,520 I didn't tell her anything about the garden and she just stopped. 352 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,480 She stopped in the exact spot 353 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,480 about the cause of the haunting. 354 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,240 my father dug up that body. 355 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,920 We know that water plays an important part 356 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Something happened here. 357 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,760 in amplifying psychic phenomena. 358 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,880 I had a feeling of... death. 359 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,200 That primordial swamp predates European occupation of the area. 360 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720 I had felt there was a woman back there 361 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,280 that had been killed on the property and had been buried. 362 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,720 That tells you that that swamp has a lot of energy to it. 363 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,480 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING 364 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,240 So, I believe that, that is what's powering whatever's in the house. 365 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,920 I immediately thought to myself, 366 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,960 this would be a great location to attempt a séance, 367 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,240 And she goes, "There's people buried on this property." 368 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640 if it was done correctly, done safely... 369 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960 And I said "Yes, I think so." 370 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,600 that we could go and we could contact something, 371 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 get some kind of two-way communication going. 372 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,720 Because it just felt that the house was alive. 373 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Can we go in there? Of course. 374 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200 EERIE MUSIC PLAYING 375 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,840 Cathy recruits a team of paranormal investigators 376 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920 including researcher and psychic medium Rob Thompson 377 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,000 and his assistant, Renata, to help with the séance. 378 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,280 From the moment we arrived, I felt that we were being observed. 379 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960 When I entered the barn, I got a feeling, 380 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,640 And immediately I felt that there were multiple spirits 381 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,880 overwhelming feeling of fear and dread and sadness. 382 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,560 there who needed our help. 383 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Let's get started. Right. 384 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,760 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING 385 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,080 MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING 386 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Being a mother, I could feel that feeling of being pregnant. 387 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,280 Everybody ready? Yes. 388 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,120 There's several ways of doing a séance 389 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,560 And that's when I saw the woman hanging 390 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440 but every séance is almost the same. 391 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,560 from the rafters in the barn. 392 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560 You start off with a prayer. 393 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,960 We ask your protection for all those within this circle tonight. 394 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160 I know what happened here. 395 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Help us to raise our energy to communicate with the spirits here. 396 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,520 A woman took her own life. 397 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,960 You can really raise the vibration enough to give them enough energy, 398 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS 399 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,560 to be able to move things, do things. 400 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 It can get pretty intense during a séance. 401 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,480 Is there someone out there who'd like to communicate with us? 402 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200 Janet decides to conduct an investigation, 403 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,840 Damn it. 404 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,480 to see if she can calm the restless spirit lurking in Cathy's barn. 405 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Our equipment was starting to drain. 406 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,640 She has her friend, DJ, a paranormal investigator, join her. 407 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,480 Brand new batteries that just been fully charged. 408 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Even the disposable ones, boom. 409 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Is there someone here who wishes to communicate? 410 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,080 It's a sign that spirit 411 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800 We were actually out there one night, 412 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,920 is willing to come forward and is using energy. 413 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,600 and we were actually going to try to cross over 414 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920 the spirit of the woman that hung herself. 415 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,280 I'm reaching out to the woman who died here. 416 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,160 OK. Good to go. 417 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,480 We are here to help you. Make your presence known to us. 418 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,720 I know what happened to you. 419 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,760 Can you help me understand why? 420 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,760 The energy is building. 421 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,160 All of a sudden, the table... you could feel the vibrations 422 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160 I glanced over at her 423 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:33,840 coming up through the table. Right through the table itself. 424 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:36,720 and I instantly knew something was wrong with her. 425 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,720 You could just feel 'em. 426 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880 MUSIC INTENSIFIES 427 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,920 I can't believe I'm seeing this. 428 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,240 It was the first séance I had ever experienced first-hand. 429 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320 The table was actually off the ground. 430 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000 The table had levitated off the floor 431 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,400 and was shaking back and forth and it was just incredible. 432 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,480 It went up and stayed there for, I don't, 3, 4, 5 seconds. 433 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,200 I felt something behind me. 434 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,840 It was nasty. 435 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,280 And then you could feel just the energy just drop. 436 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,440 GASPS 437 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,600 And it was over. It was done. 438 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,680 Dammit. Again? 439 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,760 I think I need some air. 440 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,200 OK. 441 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080 Let's give it a few minutes and we'll try again. 442 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,400 When the investigators regroup, Janet Toal leads the séance. 443 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120 I am reaching out to the young woman who died on this property. 444 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000 Katherine, can you hear me? 445 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,960 As the séance was going on, 446 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,240 one of the participants started crying uncontrollably. 447 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,000 She just was wailing, and we couldn't get her to stop. 448 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,640 Are you there? 449 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,640 For me, a séance is giving a spirit like a giant antenna. 450 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,280 Sometimes things can go awry. 451 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,240 Sometimes people can break the circle out of fear. 452 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Everyone, keep holding hands. 453 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,600 I looked over and I saw in my mind's eye that Katherine, 454 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,800 the woman who had hung herself in the barn, 455 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,200 had stepped in too close to her and was making her cry. 456 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,720 Katherine, listen to my voice. 457 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,440 I need you to step away from the circle. 458 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,280 I had to ask her if she could please step back from her, 459 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600 you know, that she wasn't allowed to be that close, 460 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,280 that you could communicate with us 461 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,360 but she wasn't allowed to be that close to the woman. 462 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,080 As soon as she stepped back, 463 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,920 the woman just completely stopped crying. 464 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,640 That was it. She was done. 465 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,760 And she didn't know what was happening. 466 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,720 I was sitting in the front room 467 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000 and I felt the dark presence come into the room. 468 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040 I could feel the anger. 469 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,280 There is something in here with us. 470 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,000 What is it? 471 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,480 It's him. 472 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,720 We could feel this rush of negative energy come in. 473 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,240 INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING 474 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,560 GROWLING 475 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,080 ROB YELLS 476 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,440 At some point, I blacked out. 477 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,120 I have no connection with what is going on. 478 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,120 I had no control. 479 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,880 It was very aggressive energy from that spirit. 480 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,960 And he definitely was trying to intimidate. 481 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:15,360 Who are you? Tell me your name. 482 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,360 GROWLS 483 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,120 Who are you? 484 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,000 I'm not afraid of you at all. 485 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,880 I never will be either. 486 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,000 SINISTER LAUGHTER 487 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,240 Now I know who you are. 488 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,560 That was me showing the confidence that I can't be intimidated by him. 489 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,080 CONTINUES LAUGHING 490 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 MUSIC INTENSIFIES 491 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320 GASPING FOR AIR 492 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,160 Rob? Are you back with us? 493 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,360 You could tell that, that this man who was in the séance with us, 494 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,880 he just came out of it. 495 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,880 Is he gone? Yes. For now. 496 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,400 His whole purpose was to make us afraid. 497 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,400 And when somebody stood up to him, he lost that power and he left. 498 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,640 The séance is over. 499 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,000 Thank you. 500 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960 With the séance concluded, 501 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,840 the investigators give Cathy what she has long awaited. Answers. 502 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,360 Tim, thank you. 503 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,720 You have a very active house. 504 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,440 Hopefully it'll quiet down but with the swamp, I doubt it. 505 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,120 I believe there's a young woman here from another time, 506 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120 demure, quiet. 507 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,360 Seems like she was in an abusive relationship. 508 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,960 I hope she's found peace. 509 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,080 Me too. 510 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480 You told me that you loved me. 511 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,480 I see now that you are incapable of loving anyone. 512 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,400 You are a monster and I hope that you are damned in hell. 513 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,120 And you have a male spirit who feels dark, putative, cruel. 514 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,320 The darker guy, the darker spirit personality... 515 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120 I believe that he is someone who has lived in the house. 516 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480 He feels as if he's part of that house. 517 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,160 And I believe that he was somebody that was just unbelievably stern. 518 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,680 He ruled by having an iron fist. 519 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,880 Uh, women had no rights. 520 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,480 I don't like you sharing a space with him. 521 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,040 Be careful, Cathy. 522 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,360 Cathy, uh, good luck with this place. 523 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,800 I'm afraid you might need it. 524 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,000 I feel we did good work while we were there. 525 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,640 I feel that the energy changed. It shifted. 526 00:42:55,720 --> 00:43:01,760 But honestly, I wouldn't go back there for all the tea in China. 527 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,880 I started to talk to my father a little bit 528 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,320 about the spirit activity in that house. 529 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,640 And about why he would never let us tell anybody 530 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,640 about things when we were kids. 531 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:19,720 And I told him I want to know why this place is so haunted 532 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,720 and why we had to grow up the way we grew up, 533 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,480 experiencing those things. 534 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,600 And he agreed with me, that we needed to find out why. 535 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,000 I've kind told myself 536 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,840 that the spirits in the house, they're people. 537 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,760 They're part of my family, whether I like it or not. 538 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,440 I talk out loud to my ghosts sometimes 539 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,200 and I said, you know, like me or not 540 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,280 we, we are in this together... 541 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,560 and we can either get along or we don't have to get along.