1 00:00:08,167 --> 00:00:09,458 [tense music] 2 00:00:09,542 --> 00:00:11,792 Being in a relationship is difficult enough. 3 00:00:11,875 --> 00:00:13,417 Add to it addiction, and you have 4 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:16,500 a perfect recipe for a tornado to come that you're 5 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:20,042 not gonna be able to stop. 6 00:00:20,125 --> 00:00:22,458 There's that old saying, misery loves company. 7 00:00:25,250 --> 00:00:28,208 I can't see it being anything other than a nightmare. 8 00:00:28,375 --> 00:00:32,417 The worst hell you have ever had in your entire life. 9 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:35,250 [tense music] 10 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:41,583 Couples in their addiction just tear each other apart. 11 00:00:41,708 --> 00:00:43,083 You were done with that. 12 00:00:43,167 --> 00:00:45,625 We were done with that, and you brought it back! 13 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:46,667 The dishonesty. 14 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:47,583 (Bleep). 15 00:00:47,667 --> 00:00:48,417 I'm going. 16 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:49,417 I'm done. 17 00:00:49,542 --> 00:00:50,583 - The manipulation. - The fighting. 18 00:00:50,667 --> 00:00:51,417 I got these. 19 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:52,458 It was your fault! 20 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:56,125 And the codependency is deep. 21 00:00:56,208 --> 00:00:58,167 The only thing harder than fighting an addiction 22 00:00:58,208 --> 00:01:01,000 is fighting codependency at the same time. 23 00:01:01,083 --> 00:01:03,333 [tense music] 24 00:01:03,417 --> 00:01:05,333 They're playing that dance of death, 25 00:01:05,417 --> 00:01:07,625 and they're killing each other. 26 00:01:07,708 --> 00:01:10,500 [tense music] 27 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:14,625 I met Garrett because he was supplying me with drugs. 28 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:19,583 We've been together for almost four years. 29 00:01:19,708 --> 00:01:20,833 - Shantell? - Hmm? 30 00:01:20,917 --> 00:01:22,458 OK, she's already slumped. 31 00:01:22,542 --> 00:01:26,542 So much of their relationship is focused on that drug. 32 00:01:26,625 --> 00:01:28,167 There's no way of telling how much 33 00:01:28,250 --> 00:01:29,875 fentanyl is in these pills. 34 00:01:29,958 --> 00:01:33,833 Garrett has been addicted to drugs for upwards of 10 years. 35 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:37,542 Shantell has probably been addicted to drugs six years. 36 00:01:37,667 --> 00:01:39,667 How did you even get that one off of me? 37 00:01:39,792 --> 00:01:41,083 Dummy, you still have yours. 38 00:01:41,167 --> 00:01:43,208 Our addiction just makes us fight way too much. 39 00:01:43,292 --> 00:01:44,917 At least hold my [bleep] hand, dude. 40 00:01:44,917 --> 00:01:46,167 [bleep] you. 41 00:01:46,250 --> 00:01:47,833 Their relationship has literally 42 00:01:47,917 --> 00:01:49,792 been founded in drug addiction. 43 00:01:49,875 --> 00:01:52,333 [tense music] 44 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:55,792 And I'm gonna ask you, please, accept this help. 45 00:01:55,875 --> 00:02:00,125 This is my dying wish, for you to fight for your life as well. 46 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:01,500 I need to go step outside. 47 00:02:01,583 --> 00:02:03,333 No, I don't want to hear any bull-[bleep] 48 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:04,208 you guys have to say. 49 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:06,625 So get away from me! 50 00:02:06,708 --> 00:02:11,833 Staying on this track, they're either gonna go to jail or die. 51 00:02:11,917 --> 00:02:14,833 [tense music] 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,792 My name is Garrett. 53 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:49,458 I'm 29. 54 00:02:49,542 --> 00:02:51,292 And my name is Shantell, and I'm 26, 55 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:53,417 and we both live in Omak, Washington. 56 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:55,333 (SINGING) Skidamarink-a-dink-a dink-a, 57 00:02:55,417 --> 00:02:57,958 dink-a, skidamarink-a-doo. 58 00:02:58,042 --> 00:03:01,375 I love you. 59 00:03:01,458 --> 00:03:03,292 I love you in the morning-- 60 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:05,083 (SINGING) --and in the afternoon. 61 00:03:05,167 --> 00:03:07,625 You don't want to skidamarink-a-dink with me? 62 00:03:07,708 --> 00:03:08,958 No. 63 00:03:09,042 --> 00:03:10,042 Garrett is my boyfriend, and we've been 64 00:03:10,125 --> 00:03:12,250 together for almost four years. 65 00:03:12,333 --> 00:03:13,667 - Hi. - Hello. 66 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:14,542 Hello. 67 00:03:14,625 --> 00:03:16,167 He brings happiness to my life. 68 00:03:16,208 --> 00:03:18,500 [chuckles] And he supports me in, 69 00:03:18,583 --> 00:03:21,333 like, whatever I want to do. 70 00:03:21,375 --> 00:03:24,042 Can I get a 12-ounce white chocolate mocha? 71 00:03:24,125 --> 00:03:25,667 Yeah. 72 00:03:25,792 --> 00:03:29,042 What I love about Shantell is that we can be ourselves. 73 00:03:29,125 --> 00:03:30,667 She is my best friend. 74 00:03:30,708 --> 00:03:33,500 We do everything together, and without her in my life, 75 00:03:33,542 --> 00:03:35,875 it would be a lot more depressing. 76 00:03:35,958 --> 00:03:36,667 Thank you. 77 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:37,875 Thank you. 78 00:03:37,958 --> 00:03:39,167 Things would be a lot harder. 79 00:03:58,792 --> 00:04:02,458 Right now, me and Garrett are addicted to fentanyl and meth. 80 00:04:07,458 --> 00:04:11,125 Garrett and Shantell definitely fuel each other 81 00:04:11,208 --> 00:04:12,708 in the whole situation. 82 00:04:12,792 --> 00:04:15,792 I don't know if they're addicted to each other's company 83 00:04:15,875 --> 00:04:18,250 or more so just the using, but I don't 84 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:19,625 believe Garrett and Shantell would 85 00:04:19,708 --> 00:04:22,333 be together without the drugs. 86 00:04:22,375 --> 00:04:24,500 Dude, at least walk and hold my [bleep] hand, dude. 87 00:04:24,625 --> 00:04:25,833 [bleep] you! 88 00:04:25,875 --> 00:04:27,792 Dude, why do you always got to [bleep] argue? 89 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:29,417 Then don't be with me. 90 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:31,500 I don't want to, not when you're [bleep] being like this, 91 00:04:31,542 --> 00:04:32,167 no. 92 00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:34,167 OK, then we're done. 93 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:37,167 I don't know what Shantell sees in Garrett. 94 00:04:37,208 --> 00:04:40,542 I've asked myself that a million times. 95 00:04:40,625 --> 00:04:43,667 I've even asked her that, but I never get a answer. 96 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:46,875 I think right now, it just is someone to do drugs with. 97 00:04:53,458 --> 00:04:55,667 Piece of [bleep]. 98 00:04:55,708 --> 00:04:57,333 [bleep] you. 99 00:04:57,417 --> 00:04:58,500 I'm [bleep] done with you. 100 00:04:58,542 --> 00:05:01,583 I'm done with this house. 101 00:05:01,708 --> 00:05:03,375 When there's tension in our relationship, 102 00:05:03,458 --> 00:05:06,500 it's usually over drugs. 103 00:05:06,542 --> 00:05:09,500 Like, usually being out of drugs, being stressed out, 104 00:05:09,583 --> 00:05:12,167 like, how we're gonna get money to get drugs. 105 00:05:12,208 --> 00:05:15,292 [tense music] 106 00:05:17,167 --> 00:05:19,375 It takes over your life. 107 00:05:19,458 --> 00:05:23,167 Once you're using it, everything revolves around fentanyl. 108 00:05:23,208 --> 00:05:30,083 We use anywhere from 10 to 20 pills a piece every day. 109 00:05:30,167 --> 00:05:32,833 [tense music] 110 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:36,833 We need to have it in order to do anything. 111 00:05:36,917 --> 00:05:39,958 To function normally, not be withdrawing or sick. 112 00:05:43,042 --> 00:05:45,417 We also use meth, and we probably 113 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:48,042 do about a half gram a day. 114 00:05:48,125 --> 00:05:50,375 We just use meth to wake ourselves up 115 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:54,167 because the fentanyl pills pass us out so much. 116 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:57,792 [tense music] 117 00:06:05,167 --> 00:06:08,208 I believe Garrett has been addicted to some form of drugs 118 00:06:08,292 --> 00:06:11,833 for upwards of 10 years. 119 00:06:11,917 --> 00:06:14,667 I think Garrett's been numbing the pain of a lot 120 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:16,458 of things he's experienced. 121 00:06:16,542 --> 00:06:19,333 And I just don't think Garrett has the coping skills 122 00:06:19,417 --> 00:06:20,917 to face a lot of the traumatic issues 123 00:06:21,042 --> 00:06:23,208 that have happened in his life. 124 00:06:23,292 --> 00:06:25,333 Physical changes I've noticed in Garrett? 125 00:06:25,375 --> 00:06:27,208 Definitely his gray hair. 126 00:06:27,292 --> 00:06:29,417 He's pretty much completely gray now. 127 00:06:29,542 --> 00:06:31,458 He's skinnier. 128 00:06:31,542 --> 00:06:35,958 And his drug use is on a steady downhill slope. 129 00:06:35,958 --> 00:06:38,375 [tense music] 130 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:43,667 Shantell's never came out and said exactly what she's doing. 131 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:48,542 I thought it was just THC, marijuana, so on and so forth. 132 00:06:48,625 --> 00:06:52,292 I had no idea that it was progressively getting worse. 133 00:06:52,375 --> 00:06:53,125 Shantell? 134 00:06:53,208 --> 00:06:53,833 Hmm? 135 00:06:53,917 --> 00:06:55,292 Here. 136 00:06:55,375 --> 00:06:58,792 OK, she's already slumped. 137 00:06:58,875 --> 00:07:01,167 When I first tried fentanyl, that was probably, like, 138 00:07:01,250 --> 00:07:03,375 the highest I've ever been. 139 00:07:03,458 --> 00:07:05,333 It just kind of made me stop thinking 140 00:07:05,375 --> 00:07:09,083 about everything for a minute that was going on in my life. 141 00:07:09,167 --> 00:07:11,833 [tense music] 142 00:07:11,917 --> 00:07:14,667 I've noticed a lot of changes in Shantell's 143 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,792 physical appearance because of the drug use. 144 00:07:17,875 --> 00:07:19,833 The weight gain, the weight loss. 145 00:07:19,875 --> 00:07:23,458 She does have a lot of little sores and stuff on her face, 146 00:07:23,542 --> 00:07:26,542 and her teeth are pretty much gone. 147 00:07:26,625 --> 00:07:28,167 Yeah, it makes me really embarrassed. 148 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:28,958 It sucks. 149 00:07:29,042 --> 00:07:30,125 [chuckles] 150 00:07:30,208 --> 00:07:31,000 It's pissing her off right now. 151 00:07:31,042 --> 00:07:31,833 I can tell. - Yeah. 152 00:07:31,917 --> 00:07:34,333 [chuckles] 153 00:07:34,417 --> 00:07:36,667 The last three years, Shantell's 154 00:07:36,708 --> 00:07:39,500 been arrested at least two times that I'm aware of, 155 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:42,500 and she ended up with a felony for identity theft 156 00:07:42,583 --> 00:07:44,208 for check cashing. 157 00:07:44,292 --> 00:07:47,167 To pay for drugs, Shantell has done a lot of rotten things. 158 00:07:47,208 --> 00:07:48,750 She's stolen money from me. 159 00:07:48,833 --> 00:07:50,625 She's stolen money from the whole family. 160 00:07:50,708 --> 00:07:54,667 I mean, God only knows what she's done for money. 161 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:56,792 I don't like to think about it. 162 00:07:59,292 --> 00:08:01,667 35 bucks. 163 00:08:01,708 --> 00:08:04,292 I spent the rest of the hundred and freaking 20 164 00:08:04,375 --> 00:08:05,792 that I got from my mom. 165 00:08:05,875 --> 00:08:08,750 I help Garrett and Shantell financially every month, 166 00:08:08,833 --> 00:08:11,417 even though I'm just on a fixed income. 167 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:13,292 I give them money to do yard work, 168 00:08:13,375 --> 00:08:16,792 and then that doesn't get done. 169 00:08:16,875 --> 00:08:19,708 I think this is their last chance. 170 00:08:19,792 --> 00:08:21,458 I don't think they can make it much 171 00:08:21,542 --> 00:08:23,583 further if they don't get help. 172 00:08:23,667 --> 00:08:26,125 [tense music] 173 00:08:27,625 --> 00:08:31,417 Their relationship is not a healthy one. 174 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:36,792 Staying on this track, you're either gonna go to jail or die. 175 00:08:36,875 --> 00:08:39,750 [tense music] 176 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:48,000 There it is. 177 00:08:57,042 --> 00:08:58,500 I really like playing basketball. 178 00:08:58,542 --> 00:09:00,042 Basketball was, like, my favorite sport 179 00:09:00,125 --> 00:09:01,458 once I started playing it. 180 00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:02,750 I should have started playing a lot sooner. 181 00:09:05,375 --> 00:09:09,292 I started playing for Omak High School. 182 00:09:09,375 --> 00:09:12,708 I played up until my 11th grade year. 183 00:09:12,792 --> 00:09:15,708 Garrett excels at sports. 184 00:09:15,833 --> 00:09:17,833 I really thought Garrett, when he was younger, 185 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:21,500 would become some type of athlete. 186 00:09:21,583 --> 00:09:23,333 But he just ended up tucking it away. 187 00:09:23,458 --> 00:09:24,167 Oh, my God. 188 00:09:30,042 --> 00:09:32,333 Oh, my God, dude. 189 00:09:32,375 --> 00:09:33,167 Dude-- 190 00:09:39,792 --> 00:09:41,208 I've only known Shantell in addiction. 191 00:09:41,292 --> 00:09:42,000 - Yeah. - So I don't-- 192 00:09:42,083 --> 00:09:42,875 I don't know. 193 00:09:49,958 --> 00:09:51,708 It's in the car. 194 00:09:51,833 --> 00:09:54,500 The sickness really [bleep] sucks. 195 00:09:54,583 --> 00:09:57,125 I wish I would have never taken that first hit 196 00:09:57,208 --> 00:09:59,375 and gotten into it. 197 00:09:59,542 --> 00:10:02,958 [tense music] 198 00:10:04,125 --> 00:10:05,125 It's not good. 199 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:08,500 It's not the life I wanted to live. 200 00:10:08,583 --> 00:10:11,583 [tense music] 201 00:10:12,833 --> 00:10:15,250 Garrett was a cute baby. 202 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:16,667 He was big. 203 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:19,167 He was 8 and 1/2 pounds. 204 00:10:19,292 --> 00:10:22,417 Garrett and I were always basically hand-in-hand 205 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:24,083 everywhere we went. 206 00:10:24,167 --> 00:10:28,167 Hunting, fishing, hiking, being out in the mountains. 207 00:10:28,208 --> 00:10:30,333 We learned a lot of stuff from my dad, 208 00:10:30,375 --> 00:10:33,333 and it got us to be a lot closer. 209 00:10:33,417 --> 00:10:36,500 But life was pretty rough, I guess 210 00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:37,833 you could say, growing up. 211 00:10:37,875 --> 00:10:39,250 It wasn't normal at all. 212 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:40,917 [chuckles] 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,458 Their dad and I had a very volatile relationship. 214 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:45,292 There was physical abuse. 215 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:47,167 There was mental abuse. 216 00:10:47,250 --> 00:10:50,583 But we also used together. 217 00:10:50,708 --> 00:10:55,875 My mom's also an addict, and my dad was, too. 218 00:10:55,958 --> 00:10:59,708 Addiction was pretty prevalent in our lives. 219 00:10:59,792 --> 00:11:01,333 Ever since I could remember, they 220 00:11:01,417 --> 00:11:03,833 were both addicted to cocaine. 221 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:07,042 The cocaine is what destroyed our relationship. 222 00:11:07,125 --> 00:11:13,000 And Garrett was four and a half when their dad and I broke up. 223 00:11:13,125 --> 00:11:16,875 Once my parents split up, we moved around quite a bit. 224 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:21,500 Going house to house, school to school for over eight years. 225 00:11:21,583 --> 00:11:22,917 It was unstable. 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,917 It made me feel pretty scared. 227 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,833 I needed my parents to be there more for us. 228 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:29,500 It wasn't normal, that's for sure. 229 00:11:29,583 --> 00:11:32,375 [tense music] 230 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:41,000 And I got into smoking weed around 13 or so 231 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:44,250 because my mom smoked every day. 232 00:11:44,333 --> 00:11:49,500 I even found their cocaine once and tried that when 233 00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:51,167 she had one of her slip-ups. 234 00:11:51,208 --> 00:11:54,083 I actually thought that I hid that from them. 235 00:11:54,167 --> 00:11:57,542 But as they got older, my boys would snoop around in my things 236 00:11:57,625 --> 00:11:59,292 and find it. 237 00:11:59,375 --> 00:12:01,958 I eventually ended up starting smoking weed with her, too. 238 00:12:02,042 --> 00:12:06,000 That got me into trying out other things. 239 00:12:06,083 --> 00:12:08,958 [tense music] 240 00:12:13,917 --> 00:12:15,958 Basketball and baseball would have been his route 241 00:12:16,042 --> 00:12:20,708 into college, but after he joined high school sports 242 00:12:20,792 --> 00:12:22,792 and started hanging out with the older kids, 243 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:26,000 he was introduced to opioids and the painkillers. 244 00:12:26,083 --> 00:12:29,042 When I was a junior in high school, 245 00:12:29,167 --> 00:12:32,000 OxyContin got introduced to me through the guys 246 00:12:32,083 --> 00:12:33,875 on the basketball team that were really good. 247 00:12:33,958 --> 00:12:36,833 So we were thinking it was cool. 248 00:12:36,917 --> 00:12:40,125 That's when I got addicted. 249 00:12:40,208 --> 00:12:41,958 Like, at the end of my junior year, 250 00:12:42,042 --> 00:12:45,583 I was smoking OxyContin close to every day. 251 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:47,042 His grades went down. 252 00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:50,167 His attendance and sports started to go down. 253 00:12:50,208 --> 00:12:53,000 I barely graduated high school. 254 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:55,667 Yeah, it was all downhill from there. 255 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:58,000 After he graduated from high school, 256 00:12:58,083 --> 00:13:00,292 he was enrolled in community college, 257 00:13:00,375 --> 00:13:03,500 but his drug usage had increased so much 258 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:05,833 that he didn't go to college. 259 00:13:05,958 --> 00:13:10,125 When Garrett was 19 years old, our dad passed away. 260 00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:16,875 Yeah, it was [bleep] really sad. 261 00:13:19,375 --> 00:13:21,083 Really hit me hard. 262 00:13:21,083 --> 00:13:22,625 I mean, we were pretty close. 263 00:13:22,708 --> 00:13:24,750 We spent a lot of time together because I 264 00:13:24,833 --> 00:13:26,958 lived with him at the time. 265 00:13:27,042 --> 00:13:28,583 He would always tell me, like, when he'd be, 266 00:13:28,667 --> 00:13:32,333 like, passing out drunk how much he loved me and my brother. 267 00:13:32,458 --> 00:13:34,875 Yeah, it affected me pretty-- 268 00:13:34,958 --> 00:13:36,792 pretty bad. 269 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:41,875 It was just almost more than we could take. 270 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,417 And Garrett's drug use was markedly getting worse 271 00:13:44,542 --> 00:13:46,917 after his dad passed away. 272 00:13:47,042 --> 00:13:51,833 I guess I just didn't want to feel anything anymore. 273 00:13:51,917 --> 00:13:54,167 I was really messed up in the head. 274 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,833 I was really sad, so I just wanted to do nothing 275 00:13:56,917 --> 00:13:59,083 but numb the pain. 276 00:13:59,167 --> 00:14:01,000 And after that, through the years, 277 00:14:01,042 --> 00:14:02,792 I've had to bury a lot of friends, 278 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:04,333 a lot of family members. 279 00:14:04,417 --> 00:14:09,083 Having so many losses back to back really takes a toll. 280 00:14:09,208 --> 00:14:12,292 The way I've always coped is just numbing my feelings. 281 00:14:14,875 --> 00:14:17,000 I worry about Garrett every day. 282 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,792 Garrett and Shantell both thrive off of each other's using. 283 00:14:20,875 --> 00:14:23,958 So eventually, this is gonna kill them. 284 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:37,917 [tense music] 285 00:14:41,208 --> 00:14:47,750 All right, well, let's get going. 286 00:14:47,833 --> 00:14:49,833 [tense music] 287 00:15:05,833 --> 00:15:09,708 Garrett and Shantell have nothing in common, 288 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:12,000 I think, besides their drug use. 289 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:23,125 Garrett and Shantell feed off each other, enable each other. 290 00:15:23,208 --> 00:15:25,417 This is what I needed for today. 291 00:15:28,208 --> 00:15:31,333 So much of their time and energy together 292 00:15:31,417 --> 00:15:34,208 is spent on that drug, focused on that drug. 293 00:15:34,292 --> 00:15:36,500 How are we gonna get it? Where are we gonna get it? 294 00:15:36,625 --> 00:15:37,917 How are we gonna pay for it? 295 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,292 Day after day. 296 00:15:39,375 --> 00:15:42,167 [tense music] 297 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:44,375 I just can't see her and Garrett continue 298 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:47,167 to do what they're doing it without ending up 299 00:15:47,208 --> 00:15:49,708 either in prison or dead. 300 00:15:49,708 --> 00:15:51,542 [tense music] 301 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:01,917 [dog barking] 302 00:16:09,833 --> 00:16:12,125 Right now, me and Garrett are living together in a home 303 00:16:12,208 --> 00:16:14,625 owned by his family friend. 304 00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:17,417 She's like, really lenient when we don't have, like, 305 00:16:17,542 --> 00:16:18,833 enough for rent. 306 00:16:18,875 --> 00:16:20,417 Like, she'll let us do, like, work for her, 307 00:16:20,542 --> 00:16:22,708 like, out at her house, like cleaning out her chicken coop 308 00:16:22,792 --> 00:16:24,833 or, you know, like, stuff like that. 309 00:16:24,833 --> 00:16:28,500 We've been living here for, I think, like five months now. 310 00:16:28,583 --> 00:16:30,375 Previously, we were living at my mom's house, 311 00:16:30,458 --> 00:16:32,792 and a situation happened there to where 312 00:16:32,875 --> 00:16:34,500 we couldn't live there anymore. 313 00:16:34,542 --> 00:16:36,542 I let her and Garrett live at the house, 314 00:16:36,625 --> 00:16:39,500 and then a lot of things would end up missing, 315 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:42,417 and I just couldn't deal with the drugs and stuff. 316 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:45,917 I just couldn't watch it anymore. 317 00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:48,125 The best part about living here, I think, 318 00:16:48,208 --> 00:16:51,042 is just, like, knowing we have a roof over our head. 319 00:16:51,125 --> 00:16:54,083 Like, we have our own place that we can call home. 320 00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:58,292 That house is a dangerous situation. 321 00:16:58,375 --> 00:17:00,542 It's rundown. 322 00:17:00,625 --> 00:17:02,208 You know, those toys and the garbage 323 00:17:02,292 --> 00:17:04,833 bags around the front yard. 324 00:17:04,917 --> 00:17:06,667 There's different people coming in and out, 325 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:08,458 lots of cars parked out front. 326 00:17:08,542 --> 00:17:11,583 She just lives probably six or eight blocks away, 327 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:13,458 but I don't go anywhere near that place. 328 00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:18,542 It's just a bunch of druggies and creepy people. 329 00:17:18,542 --> 00:17:20,583 Yeah, I definitely miss having a stable home 330 00:17:20,667 --> 00:17:23,083 where you don't have to worry about all the people always 331 00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:24,708 coming in and out of the house or, like, 332 00:17:24,833 --> 00:17:27,875 if a fight is gonna break out or all my stuff getting stolen. 333 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,667 I didn't have to worry about all that stuff. 334 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:32,000 Before we fall asleep, we'll lock our door because, 335 00:17:32,083 --> 00:17:33,792 like, people came in and just, like, 336 00:17:33,875 --> 00:17:36,292 while I was sleeping and stole our phone, like, off the bed 337 00:17:36,375 --> 00:17:37,667 and just, like, stuff like that. 338 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:42,083 What makes this room feel like home to me, 339 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:45,125 I think just all the pictures I have, 340 00:17:45,208 --> 00:17:47,667 different memories and stuff. 341 00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:49,333 It just makes me feel good. 342 00:17:49,417 --> 00:17:51,167 These are pictures of me and my older 343 00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:52,500 sister and my older brother. 344 00:17:52,625 --> 00:17:54,667 We don't see each other often, but we're 345 00:17:54,708 --> 00:17:56,708 all still really close. 346 00:17:56,708 --> 00:18:00,333 I never dreamed that Shantell would be like she is now 347 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:05,333 and all the problems and just not 348 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:09,167 care about anything or anybody. 349 00:18:09,250 --> 00:18:11,417 That's just not her. 350 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:14,167 [tense music] 351 00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:17,500 Shantell was a happy...a happy girl. 352 00:18:17,542 --> 00:18:19,417 My relationship with my mom was pretty good. 353 00:18:19,542 --> 00:18:21,667 She made sure that we got, like, what we wanted 354 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:25,000 or what we needed and was always there, for the most part. 355 00:18:25,042 --> 00:18:28,667 But my dad, he hasn't been in my life since I was probably, 356 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:31,250 I think, like six months old. 357 00:18:31,333 --> 00:18:33,583 It was just better that he not be in the picture. 358 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,458 [tense music] 359 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:42,167 Me and my mom raised Shantell. 360 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:43,542 My mom was working a lot. 361 00:18:43,542 --> 00:18:45,208 She'd drop us off at my grandma's house. 362 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:47,542 So, like, me and my grandma were really, really close. 363 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:49,167 She was always around. 364 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:51,167 Grandma's been in her life a lot. 365 00:18:51,208 --> 00:18:53,750 She went to school plays, Christmas concerts, stuff 366 00:18:53,875 --> 00:18:55,542 like that. 367 00:18:55,625 --> 00:18:58,208 So she was very much involved in her everyday life. 368 00:18:58,292 --> 00:19:00,000 Shantell did really good in school. 369 00:19:00,042 --> 00:19:03,667 In high school, she was involved in cheerleading and volleyball. 370 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:06,333 She's pretty social. 371 00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:10,250 When I was a teenager, I was around alcohol and weed 372 00:19:10,333 --> 00:19:14,375 most of the time, but I didn't use harder drugs. 373 00:19:14,458 --> 00:19:18,250 When Shantell was about 16, she started dating a guy who 374 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:20,958 she seemed pretty happy with. 375 00:19:21,042 --> 00:19:22,500 We had a lot in common. 376 00:19:22,542 --> 00:19:26,625 He was really supportive, and, like, I loved him. 377 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,792 I graduated high school early, and we moved to Spokane. 378 00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:32,917 And I had a really good career going for myself. 379 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,500 And I was really happy. 380 00:19:34,583 --> 00:19:37,333 Everything was working out the way it was supposed to. 381 00:19:37,417 --> 00:19:39,667 She was doing really good for herself. 382 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:41,167 I was pretty proud of her. 383 00:19:41,292 --> 00:19:43,167 Shantell had some pretty big hopes. 384 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:44,833 She wanted to do something with her life, 385 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:48,000 and, you know, early on, I told her, anything you want to do, 386 00:19:48,125 --> 00:19:49,125 I'll help you get there. 387 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:51,500 Just put your mind to it. 388 00:19:51,542 --> 00:19:53,792 Me and my boyfriend were together for about five years. 389 00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:58,250 And then when I just had turned 21, he ended up cheating on me 390 00:19:58,375 --> 00:20:00,417 in our house with my friend while I was sleeping. 391 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:08,208 Their relationship coming to an end impacted her a lot. 392 00:20:08,292 --> 00:20:09,917 It felt horrible. 393 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,625 Like, it was really hard to, like, accept the fact that, you 394 00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:14,125 know, when you're with someone for so long and then stuff 395 00:20:14,208 --> 00:20:16,667 like that happens, like, unexpectedly. 396 00:20:16,792 --> 00:20:18,958 Like, I just felt really heartbroken. 397 00:20:19,042 --> 00:20:21,708 [tense music] 398 00:20:30,042 --> 00:20:31,750 Her grandma was her world. 399 00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:35,917 She'd tell her grandma things that she'd never tell her mom. 400 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 It was really hard losing her. 401 00:20:39,042 --> 00:20:39,750 Sorry. 402 00:20:46,083 --> 00:20:49,333 Sorry, I get super emotional when I talk about my grandma. 403 00:20:49,417 --> 00:20:53,167 Just her whole life got turned upside down. 404 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:55,208 But I think it was only like a month and a half 405 00:20:55,292 --> 00:20:56,875 after she passed away that I tried heroin. 406 00:20:59,583 --> 00:21:02,667 I had this one friend come over, and she was into heroin. 407 00:21:02,708 --> 00:21:05,000 We were pretty close friends, and she made it 408 00:21:05,083 --> 00:21:06,625 look like it wasn't that bad. 409 00:21:06,708 --> 00:21:09,000 I was still, like, dealing with a breakup. 410 00:21:09,083 --> 00:21:11,375 I had just lost my grandmother. 411 00:21:11,458 --> 00:21:15,167 I was just feeling really hurt and just 412 00:21:15,250 --> 00:21:18,417 wanted to forget everything. 413 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:23,625 When I took the first hit of heroin, I felt, like, numb. 414 00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:27,625 From there, I just started doing it every day after that. 415 00:21:30,875 --> 00:21:35,208 Shantell, during this time, I seen her shut down. 416 00:21:35,292 --> 00:21:37,458 It got really deep, dark. 417 00:21:37,542 --> 00:21:41,083 And her drug use was progressively getting worse. 418 00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:42,750 And before you know it, it was too late. 419 00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:45,125 She had gotten herself in trouble, lost her job. 420 00:21:45,208 --> 00:21:47,500 She ended up homeless. 421 00:21:47,625 --> 00:21:49,292 So I moved back to Omak. 422 00:21:49,375 --> 00:21:51,583 It was harder to get heroin here in Omak, 423 00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:54,667 so I slowly just switched over to fentanyl. 424 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:56,542 At that point, I was like, well, everything 425 00:21:56,625 --> 00:21:58,000 can't get much more messed up. 426 00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:01,167 And, like, I slowly just ended up losing everything. 427 00:22:01,208 --> 00:22:02,583 I was hoping that maybe it would 428 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:04,833 get tough enough where she'd smarten up 429 00:22:04,917 --> 00:22:06,208 and say, hey, I need to-- 430 00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:07,542 something needs to change. 431 00:22:11,583 --> 00:22:14,500 When I moved back to Omak, I met Garrett because he 432 00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:15,792 was supplying me with heroin. 433 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:23,833 Garrett gave me the heroin. 434 00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:28,042 I did too big of a shot, and I don't really remember much. 435 00:22:28,125 --> 00:22:30,875 Here's this girl that I just invited over to my house, 436 00:22:30,958 --> 00:22:33,875 and she starts turning blue. 437 00:22:33,958 --> 00:22:35,250 I started freaking out. 438 00:22:35,333 --> 00:22:36,792 It scared the [bleep] out of me. 439 00:22:36,875 --> 00:22:39,167 And I tossed her in the tub and hit her with cold water, 440 00:22:39,292 --> 00:22:40,583 and it made her come back to. 441 00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:42,917 And the only thing I could think of to do 442 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,917 was to get her, like, heart going fast 443 00:22:47,042 --> 00:22:48,708 again, which was by doing meth. 444 00:22:48,792 --> 00:22:58,167 So yeah, she came back to us in a bunch of soaked clothes. 445 00:22:58,250 --> 00:23:00,458 [chuckles] 446 00:23:01,875 --> 00:23:03,833 He's the one that actually saved my life. 447 00:23:03,875 --> 00:23:05,500 Then afterward, he comforted me, and I 448 00:23:05,542 --> 00:23:07,167 could tell, like, he was really freaked 449 00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:10,000 out about the situation. 450 00:23:10,125 --> 00:23:13,000 It made me realize what life would be like without her 451 00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:17,583 and how much I liked her and I wanted to be with her. 452 00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:19,625 When Garrett and Shantell first started dating, 453 00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:23,833 I automatically knew it was not a good thing. 454 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:25,792 Garrett was already heavily using at that time, 455 00:23:25,875 --> 00:23:28,750 and I suspected her of also being a user. 456 00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:32,333 So it was just going to be a codependent relationship. 457 00:23:32,375 --> 00:23:36,292 My family feels like we are definitely 458 00:23:36,375 --> 00:23:38,292 dependent on one another. 459 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,083 Yeah, and I'm not gonna argue with that. 460 00:23:41,167 --> 00:23:42,583 [chuckles] 461 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:46,292 But we see each other growing old together, having kids. 462 00:23:46,375 --> 00:23:49,833 We talk a lot about having kids and getting 463 00:23:49,917 --> 00:23:53,375 clean together and living life like we're supposed to, 464 00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:54,917 like adults. 465 00:23:57,833 --> 00:24:01,875 Garrett and Shantell started dating already under addiction. 466 00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:07,000 So who knows whether it's the drugs or their actual feelings? 467 00:24:07,083 --> 00:24:09,667 I don't want them together because Shantell needs to worry 468 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:11,583 about herself right now. 469 00:24:11,708 --> 00:24:13,500 I don't think she needs any relationship 470 00:24:13,542 --> 00:24:17,000 to feed her addiction. 471 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:18,042 I don't trust Garrett. 472 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:19,667 I don't like Garrett. 473 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:22,833 And I don't see him in my future or my daughter's future. 474 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,167 I just don't. 475 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:27,292 At the end of the day, we still love each other, 476 00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:28,958 and we go to bed happy. 477 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,833 [tense music] 478 00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:45,667 All right, there's more Malt-O-Meal up here. 479 00:24:51,542 --> 00:24:54,250 Garrett and Shantell are living with his two best 480 00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:57,833 friends, Lane, then Adrian. 481 00:24:57,917 --> 00:24:59,833 Adrian and Lane are also addicted to drugs. 482 00:25:04,708 --> 00:25:05,958 You guys are [bleep] high. 483 00:25:08,542 --> 00:25:10,000 I don't know what they do. 484 00:25:10,083 --> 00:25:11,458 I mean, none of them work. 485 00:25:11,542 --> 00:25:14,125 Do they just sit around and get high or what? 486 00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:15,333 It's pretty sad. 487 00:25:15,417 --> 00:25:18,125 [tense music] 488 00:25:20,292 --> 00:25:21,958 That house, it's full of a bunch 489 00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:24,542 of users that are all codependent on each other, 490 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:25,708 just using in there. 491 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:33,875 There is nothing that's gonna get better in that house. 492 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,208 I do feel like this is Garrett and Shantell's last shot. 493 00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:38,500 [tense music] 494 00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:56,042 Garrett, his two best friends, Adrian and Lane, 495 00:25:56,042 --> 00:25:58,708 and Shantell all live in the same home 496 00:25:58,792 --> 00:25:59,917 and are addicted to drugs. 497 00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:14,208 I think having Adrian and Lane in the house 498 00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:17,000 makes it better just because we're all there for each other. 499 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:19,125 You know, if you get that one pill that 500 00:26:19,208 --> 00:26:21,375 has too much fentanyl in it, and you're not ever 501 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,792 gonna know until you smoke it. 502 00:26:30,958 --> 00:26:33,833 [tense music] 503 00:26:46,917 --> 00:26:51,333 Adrian's mom, Marlene, owns the home that we live in. 504 00:26:51,375 --> 00:26:54,333 I honestly don't know why they're allowed to stay there. 505 00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:57,500 As a homeowner, I know that I wouldn't want my home, 506 00:26:57,542 --> 00:27:00,167 you know, to be used as a drug house. 507 00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:08,792 [tense music] 508 00:27:21,167 --> 00:27:23,167 Mm-hmm. 509 00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:27,083 Oh, [bleep], my mom called 36 minutes ago. 510 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:27,958 Hey, Mom. 511 00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:29,708 Hi. 512 00:27:29,792 --> 00:27:32,000 We're gonna be heading out there here pretty soon, OK? 513 00:27:32,042 --> 00:27:32,875 OK. 514 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,292 OK, we'll be up there shortly. 515 00:27:35,375 --> 00:27:36,958 OK. 516 00:27:37,042 --> 00:27:39,625 Babe, jump in the shower real quick. 517 00:28:05,125 --> 00:28:08,917 Shantell and I do fight a lot, and it's usually over drugs. 518 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,208 Even throwing [bleep] back and forth at each other. 519 00:28:11,292 --> 00:28:12,042 It gets pretty bad. 520 00:28:15,167 --> 00:28:18,000 [tense music] 521 00:28:23,792 --> 00:28:25,458 I know what I want. 522 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:28,958 Are those guys on their way? 523 00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:31,667 Garrett and I get together probably about once a month, 524 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:33,917 and I usually take both him and Shantell out 525 00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:37,333 to eat so we can have a little family time together 526 00:28:37,417 --> 00:28:39,625 and kind of keep up with what's going on. 527 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:42,083 It's kind of a ritual for us. 528 00:28:42,167 --> 00:28:42,833 Hey. 529 00:28:42,875 --> 00:28:44,917 Hi, son, how's it going? 530 00:28:45,042 --> 00:28:45,833 Right on. 531 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,333 Man. Me too. 532 00:28:47,375 --> 00:28:48,167 Hello. 533 00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:49,958 Hi, Shantell. 534 00:28:50,042 --> 00:28:52,958 Growing up, my mom was always a really good mother. 535 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:56,333 She always held a job. 536 00:28:56,417 --> 00:29:00,083 She partied and stuff a lot, too, but she took care of us 537 00:29:00,167 --> 00:29:00,875 really good. 538 00:29:00,958 --> 00:29:02,333 How's your mama doing? 539 00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:03,250 Better. 540 00:29:03,333 --> 00:29:04,792 That's good. 541 00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:07,292 Of my three kids that I have, he's the one 542 00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:08,708 that comes and helps me. 543 00:29:08,792 --> 00:29:11,333 He helps me keeping my place clean at times. 544 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:15,542 And if something is broken, he can usually fix it. 545 00:29:15,625 --> 00:29:17,000 And I love him so much for that. 546 00:29:17,083 --> 00:29:18,708 Have you talked to Von at all? 547 00:29:24,375 --> 00:29:27,458 Garrett's relationship right now with his brother, Von, 548 00:29:27,542 --> 00:29:29,250 is nonexistent. 549 00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:32,750 Von has chosen to not speak with us. 550 00:29:32,833 --> 00:29:34,500 Won't answer his phone. 551 00:29:34,542 --> 00:29:36,792 I don't know if he's blocked Garrett, but he's blocked me. 552 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:38,542 We can't go to his house. 553 00:29:38,625 --> 00:29:41,125 I haven't seen Von for a year. 554 00:29:41,208 --> 00:29:44,458 I know that Von is upset because he knows of the drugs that 555 00:29:44,542 --> 00:29:47,500 go on and that I'm still in the picture with you 556 00:29:47,625 --> 00:29:49,917 and I will help you, you know, and-- 557 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,500 I believe my mom enables Garrett. 558 00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:54,333 You know, there's not a real-- a whole lot of pushback 559 00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:56,083 there to get them some help. 560 00:29:56,167 --> 00:29:59,875 I can't not help you, because you're my baby. 561 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,167 It's like hard to cut the cord. 562 00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:05,833 I help them because I love them and I want 563 00:30:05,917 --> 00:30:07,750 them not to be on the streets. 564 00:30:12,042 --> 00:30:13,292 I could do that, too, but you know what? 565 00:30:13,375 --> 00:30:14,500 It's killing me. 566 00:30:14,583 --> 00:30:15,667 It's not right. 567 00:30:15,708 --> 00:30:17,667 No, it's not. 568 00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:19,000 I don't know, [bleep]. 569 00:30:19,042 --> 00:30:21,333 It is what it is. 570 00:30:21,417 --> 00:30:23,500 Garrett loves his brother, and I know 571 00:30:23,583 --> 00:30:28,500 it hurts him that his brother thinks that way about him. 572 00:30:28,583 --> 00:30:30,167 Nice seeing you. 573 00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:30,917 Love you. 574 00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:39,000 Oh, yeah, I told you you could. 575 00:30:39,083 --> 00:30:40,583 Yeah. 576 00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,542 With him not working, there's definitely a chance that he 577 00:30:42,625 --> 00:30:44,208 is receiving money from my mom. 578 00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:48,667 And I feel she does not want him to get help, in some way. 579 00:30:48,750 --> 00:30:51,583 So I disconnected from that side of my family. 580 00:30:51,708 --> 00:30:53,667 Thank you. 581 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:57,167 [tense music] 582 00:31:04,833 --> 00:31:08,500 I got a couple of blues. 583 00:31:08,583 --> 00:31:10,167 These are 30 pills. 584 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:13,167 These are what we're addicted to. 585 00:31:13,292 --> 00:31:15,333 There's no way of telling how much fentanyl 586 00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:18,542 is in these pills, and if you don't have a tolerance, 587 00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:23,208 it's very dangerous, because you can overdose very easily. 588 00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:25,500 They have hot pills, too, and they're called hot pills, 589 00:31:25,625 --> 00:31:27,042 you know? 590 00:31:27,125 --> 00:31:29,333 There's like every one in five pills is, like-- 591 00:31:29,375 --> 00:31:32,583 has five times more fentanyl than, you know, the other ones. 592 00:31:32,667 --> 00:31:35,083 Somebody who has no tolerance would OD on them. 593 00:31:35,167 --> 00:31:37,833 Or if you're drinking alcohol, like, it amplifies it big time. 594 00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:38,875 You know what I'm saying? 595 00:31:38,875 --> 00:31:40,667 It's like Russian roulette. 596 00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:42,958 We're gonna smoke these and get lit. 597 00:31:43,042 --> 00:31:45,458 [chuckles] All right. 598 00:31:46,542 --> 00:31:47,250 Baby? 599 00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:48,083 Shantell? 600 00:31:48,167 --> 00:31:48,833 Hmm? 601 00:31:48,917 --> 00:31:51,458 Here. 602 00:31:51,542 --> 00:31:53,208 OK, she's already slumped. 603 00:31:53,292 --> 00:31:54,292 Mm-mm. 604 00:31:54,375 --> 00:31:55,167 Mm-mm? 605 00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:56,500 [chuckles] 606 00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:57,750 I don't know. 607 00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:02,125 I haven't really felt like I wanted-- 608 00:32:02,208 --> 00:32:03,667 like I want to get clean. 609 00:32:03,833 --> 00:32:08,375 I mean, I had a lot of [bleep]-up [bleep] happen in my life, 610 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:14,625 and I've just been really [bleep] careless and not really 611 00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:16,125 giving two [bleep] anymore. 612 00:32:25,167 --> 00:32:27,333 Why would you do that? 613 00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:29,417 How'd you even get that one off of me? 614 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,500 I didn't, dummy. 615 00:32:30,625 --> 00:32:31,667 You still have yours. 616 00:32:31,708 --> 00:32:33,292 Then so what is this? 617 00:32:33,375 --> 00:32:35,833 This is the three that I just went and got. 618 00:32:35,958 --> 00:32:38,333 Our addiction just makes us fight way too much 619 00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:41,333 and have a lot of negativity in our relationship. 620 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:42,167 The three? 621 00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:43,500 Yeah, I only got three. 622 00:32:43,583 --> 00:32:44,625 Why? 623 00:32:44,708 --> 00:32:47,000 Because someone else is gonna be 624 00:32:47,125 --> 00:32:48,792 coming over with some [bleep] skills later, 625 00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:50,292 so calm the [bleep] down. 626 00:32:50,375 --> 00:32:52,333 Shantell and Garrett, even if they did get clean, 627 00:32:52,375 --> 00:32:53,875 I don't think would be good. 628 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,583 I mean, they're always fighting and arguing. 629 00:33:00,542 --> 00:33:03,667 I think Garrett cared for Shantell early on. 630 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:08,083 Now, I think he's just using it as a handicap crutch 631 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:09,667 because they're in the same scenario. 632 00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:21,083 Yep. 633 00:33:23,667 --> 00:33:24,667 Nope. 634 00:33:24,708 --> 00:33:26,208 Shut the [bleep] up, dude. 635 00:33:26,292 --> 00:33:29,292 Quit being a [bleep] bitch, dude. 636 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:31,542 Their relationship, so far, I haven't seen 637 00:33:31,667 --> 00:33:34,042 much positive come out of it. 638 00:33:34,125 --> 00:33:35,792 Gosh damn. 639 00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:37,833 Why do you always got to start some [bleep] [bleep], dude? 640 00:33:37,917 --> 00:33:38,708 Like-- 641 00:33:40,333 --> 00:33:42,500 I have no [bleep] idea what you did with it, dude. 642 00:33:42,583 --> 00:33:45,458 [tense music] 643 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,958 Zach, my friend, we definitely have our hands full. 644 00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:00,917 - Very. - Yeah. 645 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,875 Very full. 646 00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:03,667 My name is Mike Diamond. 647 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,042 I'm a certified interventionist. 648 00:34:06,125 --> 00:34:09,583 I've been working with addicts for 14 years. 649 00:34:09,667 --> 00:34:12,083 And I've been an interventionist for 12 years. 650 00:34:12,167 --> 00:34:16,333 We have Shantell and Garrett, who are a couple. 651 00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,833 And they are living with Garrett's childhood 652 00:34:18,875 --> 00:34:20,333 friend, Lane and Adrian. 653 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:22,333 And now all four of them are using 654 00:34:22,417 --> 00:34:23,875 together in the same house. 655 00:34:23,958 --> 00:34:25,500 Okay. 656 00:34:25,625 --> 00:34:27,292 My name is Zach Livingston, and I'm an interventionist. 657 00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:29,250 We're here to intervene on Garrett and Shantell 658 00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:33,292 and hopefully save their life. 659 00:34:33,417 --> 00:34:36,417 Didn't Garrett bring Shantell back to life or something? 660 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,250 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so here's the short and sweet. 661 00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:40,875 So Garrett gets Shantell high. 662 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,625 She overdoses and crashes out. 663 00:34:42,708 --> 00:34:45,500 Garrett, to swoop in and try to save the day, 664 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:49,042 just starts shooting her up with meth in some kind of hope 665 00:34:49,125 --> 00:34:50,500 to, like, jumpstart her heart. 666 00:34:50,625 --> 00:34:51,333 And here's the thing. 667 00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:52,333 Like, it worked, and the story goes 668 00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:53,917 is when she opened her eyes, they 669 00:34:54,042 --> 00:34:56,375 was-- they was love at first sight, 670 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:57,667 and they've just been inseparable ever since. 671 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:58,792 - Oh, my God. - Yeah. 672 00:34:58,875 --> 00:34:59,625 Like something out of Pulp Fiction? 673 00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,042 Yeah. 674 00:35:01,125 --> 00:35:03,208 Garrett and Shantell have not known a sober day 675 00:35:03,292 --> 00:35:05,583 the entire time that they've been together, 676 00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:08,708 which means the only way they know how to do anything 677 00:35:08,792 --> 00:35:09,875 is under the influence. 678 00:35:09,958 --> 00:35:11,542 This is not love. 679 00:35:11,625 --> 00:35:12,917 This is enablement. 680 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,750 This is enmeshment. 681 00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:18,875 And this is just complete fear of leaving the other. 682 00:35:18,958 --> 00:35:20,375 It's the house on the right, isn't it? 683 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,667 Yeah, this blue one on the corner. 684 00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:25,500 There's so many layers to peel back on this one. 685 00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,708 Like, this whole dynamic between all of them 686 00:35:27,833 --> 00:35:32,417 is just based in death, trauma, and rampant addiction. 687 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,375 It's quite a challenge because Garrett and Shantell 688 00:35:35,458 --> 00:35:37,250 are codependent on each other. 689 00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:40,125 So if one person doesn't go to treatment, 690 00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:42,542 it could trigger the next person not to go. 691 00:35:42,625 --> 00:35:45,917 Are you OK if I take Shantell and you take Garrett? 692 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,292 - Let's run that. - OK. 693 00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:48,917 We got a lot of work to do. 694 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,708 We have a lot of work to do, but if we don't do it, Shantell 695 00:35:51,833 --> 00:35:53,083 and Garrett, they're gonna die. 696 00:35:53,167 --> 00:35:55,500 There's not even a question. 697 00:35:55,542 --> 00:35:58,250 [tense music] 698 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:03,333 You ready? 699 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:04,500 Mm-hmm. 700 00:36:04,583 --> 00:36:06,042 I think our tolerance is pretty high. 701 00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:08,542 Yeah, the average person, like, 702 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:10,875 if they took one of the size of hits that we took, 703 00:36:10,958 --> 00:36:12,750 they would probably-- 704 00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:13,583 Overdose. 705 00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:14,542 Yeah, overdose. 706 00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:15,458 [chuckles] 707 00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:17,708 Go. 708 00:36:17,792 --> 00:36:20,042 He doesn't ever think that's gonna happen because he 709 00:36:20,125 --> 00:36:21,375 thinks he's so smart. 710 00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:23,708 No, I-- I-- I would never do that. 711 00:36:23,792 --> 00:36:26,125 The people that are ODing and dying are dah, dah, dah. 712 00:36:26,208 --> 00:36:29,667 I'm not that dumb, you know, and you just never know. 713 00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:36,667 [tense music] 714 00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:39,500 I'm going to Garrett's family right now. 715 00:36:39,625 --> 00:36:42,292 I'm gonna meet with Von and Cassie, his brother 716 00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:43,833 and his brother's fiancee. 717 00:36:43,917 --> 00:36:46,250 I'm hoping to learn about Garrett's upbringing 718 00:36:46,333 --> 00:36:47,708 and his childhood years. 719 00:36:47,792 --> 00:36:50,250 I want to know about, you know, the relationship 720 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,042 that he has with his mother and why Garrett only 721 00:36:53,125 --> 00:36:56,333 has Von and Cassie on Team Garrett 722 00:36:56,458 --> 00:36:58,792 to be involved in the intervention. 723 00:36:58,875 --> 00:37:00,042 You must be Von. - Yes. 724 00:37:00,167 --> 00:37:02,042 - Hey man, I'm, Zach Livingston. - Hey. 725 00:37:02,125 --> 00:37:03,458 First of all, one, thanks for having 726 00:37:03,542 --> 00:37:05,375 me and setting aside the time. 727 00:37:05,458 --> 00:37:07,917 We are in a life-or-death situation right now. 728 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,167 Yes. 729 00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:11,292 That's where the urgency comes in. 730 00:37:11,375 --> 00:37:13,000 OK, how does this start? 731 00:37:13,083 --> 00:37:14,417 Was mom and dad alcoholic? 732 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:15,875 Or were there drugs in the home? 733 00:37:15,958 --> 00:37:16,958 Definitely alcoholics, yes. 734 00:37:17,042 --> 00:37:18,042 Both of them? 735 00:37:18,125 --> 00:37:18,833 - Yes, both parents. - OK. 736 00:37:18,875 --> 00:37:20,250 Yes, growing up. 737 00:37:20,333 --> 00:37:21,167 Can you recall around like what age you guys 738 00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:22,667 started to see some of that? 739 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:24,542 9, 10 years old. 740 00:37:24,625 --> 00:37:26,917 So that would make him seven and a half, eight and half? 741 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,042 - Yeah, yes. - OK. 742 00:37:28,125 --> 00:37:29,625 Is she still drinking? 743 00:37:29,625 --> 00:37:31,333 Is she still-- is there-- is she using anything, 744 00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:33,083 whether it's alcohol, narcotics, whatever? 745 00:37:33,167 --> 00:37:35,000 So she's definitely drinking. 746 00:37:35,083 --> 00:37:38,458 I don't know about on the narcotics side of things. 747 00:37:38,458 --> 00:37:39,333 OK. 748 00:37:42,292 --> 00:37:46,208 Currently, I do drink alcohol a few nights a week. 749 00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:47,833 If we go out to dinner, I'll have 750 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:49,542 a nice glass of wine or two. 751 00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:51,458 But that's pretty much the extent of it. 752 00:37:51,542 --> 00:37:56,250 And for other drugs in my life right now, it's just marijuana. 753 00:37:56,333 --> 00:37:58,125 She's got an active role in his life right now. 754 00:37:58,208 --> 00:37:59,667 Yes. 755 00:37:59,708 --> 00:38:01,125 They're both very codependent on each other. 756 00:38:01,208 --> 00:38:02,167 - OK. - Yeah. 757 00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:02,833 - So there's enablement. - Yeah. 758 00:38:02,875 --> 00:38:04,625 Yes. 759 00:38:04,708 --> 00:38:07,333 When you look at Garrett and what he saw in growing up-- 760 00:38:07,417 --> 00:38:10,292 alcohol abuse, drug abuse, physical, verbal, 761 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:12,375 emotional abuse, divorce. 762 00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:15,375 I mean, he had the deck stacked against him 763 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,167 since the very start. 764 00:38:17,292 --> 00:38:19,625 So what we see as toxic, what we see 765 00:38:19,708 --> 00:38:22,708 as unhealthy in his relationship with Shantell, 766 00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:24,542 he sees it as normal. 767 00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:26,542 So where's Mom in all this? 768 00:38:26,625 --> 00:38:28,583 Is she gonna be a part on intervention day? 769 00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:31,292 At this point, I don't know if that's going to happen 770 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:32,792 or how she would react. 771 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,167 Mm-hmm. 772 00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:35,667 Is there any moment that you could magnify 773 00:38:35,708 --> 00:38:37,625 in your head where you're like, OK, here's 774 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,500 where I saw a turn with Garrett? 775 00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:41,000 Just a lot of his friends passing. 776 00:38:41,083 --> 00:38:42,750 Who-- who passed and how'd they go? 777 00:38:42,833 --> 00:38:46,083 When Garrett was 19 years old, he was in a car wreck, 778 00:38:46,167 --> 00:38:49,375 and the driver of the car passed away. 779 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,500 Garrett and two other girls took some Molly, 780 00:38:52,542 --> 00:38:54,083 and then they went driving around. 781 00:38:54,167 --> 00:38:57,333 And the girl was driving fast and didn't make the corner, 782 00:38:57,417 --> 00:39:02,542 and they went over a 285-foot embankment. 783 00:39:02,625 --> 00:39:05,208 They were all thrown from the vehicle. 784 00:39:05,292 --> 00:39:11,292 Garrett was thrown up into a tree somewhere. 785 00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:13,333 The driver, she passed. 786 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:15,125 She died. 787 00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:17,625 We were pretty close friends. 788 00:39:17,708 --> 00:39:20,833 We did a lot of things together growing up. 789 00:39:20,958 --> 00:39:24,917 I switched from pills to heroin after my car accident. 790 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,792 It was pretty-- pretty bad, though, pretty traumatic. 791 00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:30,583 And then after that, my dad died. 792 00:39:32,958 --> 00:39:33,750 How? 793 00:39:44,208 --> 00:39:45,333 [clears throat] 794 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:46,208 Take your time. 795 00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:47,000 It's OK. 796 00:39:54,083 --> 00:39:55,792 So, yeah, my dad passing-- 797 00:39:55,875 --> 00:39:58,625 he was at a friend's house the night before. 798 00:39:58,708 --> 00:40:02,333 And he was drinking because he was still a heavy drinker. 799 00:40:02,375 --> 00:40:04,042 And it was winter. 800 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:08,500 And he ended up slipping off the porch and broke his neck. 801 00:40:08,583 --> 00:40:10,583 I was really messed up in the head. 802 00:40:10,667 --> 00:40:13,667 I was really sad, so I just wanted to do nothing but numb 803 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:16,792 the pain and just started using a lot more, 804 00:40:16,875 --> 00:40:20,917 and that was actually around the time I started shooting up. 805 00:40:21,042 --> 00:40:22,583 What came next? 806 00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:26,625 Five years ago, he had his best friend, Alex, overdose. 807 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,667 What did you see from Garrett after Alex died? 808 00:40:28,792 --> 00:40:30,250 It's just been a steady progression down. 809 00:40:30,333 --> 00:40:32,000 OK. 810 00:40:32,042 --> 00:40:33,625 And that's when I had, like, the serious talk with him 811 00:40:33,708 --> 00:40:35,208 and, like, hey, like, you're seeing your friends die 812 00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:36,708 from this stuff now. 813 00:40:36,792 --> 00:40:38,708 Like, it's-- you know, you can die from this. 814 00:40:38,792 --> 00:40:40,958 Did that bring him closer or push him away further? 815 00:40:40,958 --> 00:40:42,667 I think it might have just pushed him away more. 816 00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:44,000 OK. 817 00:40:44,083 --> 00:40:45,875 Well, I think after his death, they really all just 818 00:40:45,875 --> 00:40:47,500 really numbed themselves. - Yeah. 819 00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:48,917 Exactly. Like, it's been-- 820 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,167 It was down-- 821 00:40:50,208 --> 00:40:51,333 --like, the worst it's ever been. 822 00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:52,625 --really extra downhill from there. 823 00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:54,250 How worried about him are you right now? 824 00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:55,375 This is the last straw. 825 00:40:55,458 --> 00:40:57,292 Like, he's gonna die from this. 826 00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,542 I've told him that. 827 00:40:58,625 --> 00:41:00,167 You've seen your friends die from this. 828 00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:01,375 Like, this is gonna kill you. 829 00:41:01,458 --> 00:41:03,167 Garrett has experienced a lot of trauma, 830 00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:04,792 and it's all been back to back. 831 00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:08,750 And what Garrett has done is use it as fuel to the fire. 832 00:41:08,875 --> 00:41:11,417 I mean, it's the perfect reason for him to continue 833 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:12,917 to do what he's doing. 834 00:41:13,042 --> 00:41:14,375 Like, don't you guys know what I've been through? 835 00:41:14,458 --> 00:41:15,833 Like, that kind of mentality. 836 00:41:15,917 --> 00:41:18,083 Ultimately, that's the same kind of mentality 837 00:41:18,167 --> 00:41:20,167 that's gonna kill him. 838 00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:23,125 [tense music] 839 00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:32,333 Shantell called about a hour ago, 840 00:41:32,458 --> 00:41:33,875 said she was gonna stop by. 841 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:36,042 I told her, you know, I'm not always gonna be here, 842 00:41:36,167 --> 00:41:39,417 and we need to spend some time together and talk 843 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,833 about things because, you know, I really 844 00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:44,458 want to see you get some help. 845 00:41:44,542 --> 00:41:49,708 So I'm just waiting for her to get here. 846 00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:52,875 I normally have to wait. 847 00:41:52,958 --> 00:41:54,333 She'll say, I'll be there, and two 848 00:41:54,458 --> 00:41:56,375 or three days later, you know? 849 00:41:56,458 --> 00:41:58,083 I've waited for a week. 850 00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,833 And then all that time, I sit and worry. 851 00:42:00,917 --> 00:42:03,667 She just lives six blocks down the road. 852 00:42:03,708 --> 00:42:05,333 That's what's so hard is that she's so close, 853 00:42:05,417 --> 00:42:09,375 but yet, she's so far away, and I know what goes on over there. 854 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:13,083 It just sometimes drives me crazy. 855 00:42:13,167 --> 00:42:17,375 She doesn't want to make things harder, 856 00:42:17,458 --> 00:42:19,000 and sometimes it does get hard. 857 00:42:19,125 --> 00:42:24,375 I mean, because it's just a bad situation. 858 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:25,333 Hello. 859 00:42:25,375 --> 00:42:27,333 Hi, Mom. 860 00:42:27,417 --> 00:42:29,708 Long time, no see. 861 00:42:29,792 --> 00:42:31,333 How are you feeling? 862 00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,250 I'm good. 863 00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:35,833 These days, Garrett is not allowed in our house at all. 864 00:42:35,875 --> 00:42:38,583 If he even attempted to knock on the door, 865 00:42:38,708 --> 00:42:40,333 I don't think he would get far. 866 00:42:40,417 --> 00:42:41,250 Did you have dinner? 867 00:42:41,333 --> 00:42:42,042 No. 868 00:42:46,625 --> 00:42:49,000 I know you're always hungry when you come over. 869 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,708 [chuckles] 870 00:42:50,792 --> 00:42:54,042 I think my addiction causes a lot of stress on my family. 871 00:42:54,125 --> 00:42:57,583 But my relationship with my mom currently is pretty good. 872 00:42:57,667 --> 00:43:00,708 I know she wants to see me clean and whatnot. 873 00:43:00,792 --> 00:43:04,458 But I think for the most part, it's pretty good. 874 00:43:04,542 --> 00:43:06,917 What do you guys do over there? 875 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,167 Nothing. 876 00:43:08,208 --> 00:43:09,083 Just watch DVDs. 877 00:43:12,042 --> 00:43:14,667 I'll be glad when you get some help and get your own place. 878 00:43:19,875 --> 00:43:22,000 Well, I just think if you got out of the situation 879 00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:25,875 that you're in, you might have a better outlook. 880 00:43:25,958 --> 00:43:30,083 You always just kind of avoid what's really going on. 881 00:43:32,875 --> 00:43:35,250 What's scary is, I mean, you could smoke something 882 00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:37,167 and be dead in a minute. 883 00:43:37,292 --> 00:43:39,583 When I look at Shantell, it just breaks my heart 884 00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:41,333 because I see somebody whose life 885 00:43:41,417 --> 00:43:46,042 could be totally different if she would just accept the help. 886 00:43:46,167 --> 00:43:48,875 I'd like to see you do something to get better. 887 00:43:48,958 --> 00:43:50,500 So if something does happen to me, 888 00:43:50,542 --> 00:43:52,708 I would feel a little better knowing 889 00:43:52,792 --> 00:43:55,333 that you're gonna be OK. 890 00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:56,833 Well, you think you can work on it? 891 00:43:56,875 --> 00:43:58,583 Yeah, definitely. 892 00:44:02,208 --> 00:44:03,167 I think I'm done. 893 00:44:03,167 --> 00:44:04,417 OK. 894 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,542 Thank you for dinner. 895 00:44:06,625 --> 00:44:10,583 So it's really hard when she goes out that door. 896 00:44:10,667 --> 00:44:12,250 I love you. 897 00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:13,625 Love you, Mom. 898 00:44:13,708 --> 00:44:15,167 She'll probably go home and get 899 00:44:15,208 --> 00:44:16,833 high and just forget about everything 900 00:44:16,917 --> 00:44:20,000 we talked about, you know? 901 00:44:20,042 --> 00:44:22,708 You know, it just scares me. 902 00:44:22,792 --> 00:44:24,167 She needs to get some help. 903 00:44:32,375 --> 00:44:36,417 Me and Garrett, we're addicted to fentanyl and meth. 904 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,042 When Garrett and Shantell first started dating, 905 00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:41,500 I automatically knew it was just going to be 906 00:44:41,583 --> 00:44:42,917 a codependent relationship. 907 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,583 How did you even get that one off of me? 908 00:44:44,708 --> 00:44:45,625 I didn't, dummy. 909 00:44:45,708 --> 00:44:47,167 You still have yours. 910 00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:49,375 I do not think Shantell and Garrett would be together 911 00:44:49,458 --> 00:44:50,917 if they weren't using drugs. 912 00:44:50,917 --> 00:44:52,500 Sorry, I get super emotional when 913 00:44:52,583 --> 00:44:54,000 I talk about my grandmother. 914 00:44:54,083 --> 00:44:55,958 When my grandma had passed away, Shantell shut down, 915 00:44:55,958 --> 00:44:58,708 and her drug use was progressively getting worse. 916 00:44:58,833 --> 00:45:00,375 Garrett's experienced a lot of trauma, 917 00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:01,917 and it's all been back to back. 918 00:45:02,042 --> 00:45:04,375 It started with the car crash where the driver died. 919 00:45:04,458 --> 00:45:06,000 Then his father passed away. 920 00:45:06,042 --> 00:45:08,708 What Garrett has done is use it as fuel to the fire. 921 00:45:08,708 --> 00:45:09,833 That's the same kind of mentality 922 00:45:09,875 --> 00:45:11,125 that's gonna kill him. 923 00:45:11,208 --> 00:45:12,583 Where's Mom in all this? 924 00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,375 They're both very codependent on each other. 925 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:15,375 So there's enablement? 926 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:16,208 Yes. 927 00:45:18,042 --> 00:45:19,625 - Oh, yeah. - We got a lot of work to do. 928 00:45:19,708 --> 00:45:21,667 But if we don't do it, Shantell and Garrett 929 00:45:21,708 --> 00:45:22,667 are gonna die. 930 00:45:22,792 --> 00:45:23,625 There's not even a question. 931 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:26,667 [tense music] 932 00:45:34,875 --> 00:45:38,000 So right now, I'm on my way to meet Shantell's mom, 933 00:45:38,083 --> 00:45:40,917 Peggy, and Shantell's sister. 934 00:45:41,042 --> 00:45:44,875 I'm really interested in getting Peggy's take on Shantell's 935 00:45:44,958 --> 00:45:49,708 relationship with Garrett, because Shantell 936 00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:52,708 was in a relationship when she was in Spokane. 937 00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,542 And that didn't go well. 938 00:45:54,625 --> 00:45:56,333 And then she started using. 939 00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:57,625 Hi. - Hi. 940 00:45:57,708 --> 00:45:59,042 I'm Jody. - Mike Diamond. 941 00:45:59,167 --> 00:46:00,417 Lovely to meet you. - Nice to you. 942 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,208 Thank you. 943 00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,042 So I really want to find out if having these bad relationships 944 00:46:04,125 --> 00:46:07,625 and then relapsing is a pattern and hopefully 945 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:09,167 break that pattern. 946 00:46:09,167 --> 00:46:12,083 So I'm here today just to ask you a few questions 947 00:46:12,208 --> 00:46:14,833 so it'll help me construct a better 948 00:46:14,917 --> 00:46:16,375 intervention to help you. - OK. 949 00:46:16,458 --> 00:46:17,292 - OK? - Yeah. 950 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:18,875 OK. 951 00:46:18,958 --> 00:46:20,625 Does she talk to you about her using or anything? 952 00:46:20,708 --> 00:46:21,958 No, she's never. 953 00:46:22,042 --> 00:46:23,083 - How about you? - No. 954 00:46:23,167 --> 00:46:24,583 What do you think she's using? 955 00:46:24,667 --> 00:46:26,167 You know, I really don't know. 956 00:46:26,250 --> 00:46:28,792 I'm thinking that they're smoking pills or something. 957 00:46:28,875 --> 00:46:30,542 Yeah, fentanyl. 958 00:46:30,542 --> 00:46:31,542 Yeah. 959 00:46:31,625 --> 00:46:32,667 They're going pretty hard. 960 00:46:32,708 --> 00:46:34,917 It's deadly. 961 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,625 What would trigger her to just take such drastic measures? 962 00:46:37,708 --> 00:46:40,167 Well, my mom had passed away. 963 00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:42,000 And she was very close with her, right? 964 00:46:42,042 --> 00:46:44,542 Oh, yeah, because we pretty much lived with my mom. 965 00:46:44,667 --> 00:46:46,917 Mom basically was their other mom. 966 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,500 And just, like, her whole life just 967 00:46:48,625 --> 00:46:50,083 went upside down and sideways. 968 00:46:50,167 --> 00:46:51,667 That's when her personality changed. 969 00:46:51,708 --> 00:46:52,500 Yeah. 970 00:46:52,583 --> 00:46:53,833 Friends changed. 971 00:46:53,875 --> 00:46:55,667 So what's the story with Garrett? 972 00:46:55,708 --> 00:46:58,000 I don't like Garrett. 973 00:46:58,083 --> 00:46:58,917 Yeah. 974 00:46:58,917 --> 00:47:01,042 I didn't start out that way. 975 00:47:01,167 --> 00:47:04,667 You know, I wanted to help him, and he took advantage of that. 976 00:47:04,708 --> 00:47:06,000 And she lived with Garrett here? 977 00:47:06,083 --> 00:47:08,083 Yes, that was a nightmare. 978 00:47:08,167 --> 00:47:10,042 You know, she came to me and said that, you know, 979 00:47:10,208 --> 00:47:11,500 Garrett didn't have anywhere to go. 980 00:47:11,583 --> 00:47:12,750 Yeah. 981 00:47:12,833 --> 00:47:14,708 And things just didn't go well at all. 982 00:47:14,833 --> 00:47:16,292 They were using, had people in and out. 983 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:18,083 And, well, of course, you know, they always 984 00:47:18,167 --> 00:47:19,375 had their bedroom door locked. 985 00:47:19,458 --> 00:47:21,542 You knock on the door, you know, open the door. 986 00:47:21,625 --> 00:47:22,958 Are you dead or alive in there? 987 00:47:23,042 --> 00:47:24,208 You know, what's-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 988 00:47:24,292 --> 00:47:26,000 --you know, what are you-- what's going on? 989 00:47:26,042 --> 00:47:27,833 And my youngest brother ended up kicking the door in, 990 00:47:27,917 --> 00:47:30,417 and then they got into it physically. 991 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,542 You know, and then I throwed them out. 992 00:47:33,625 --> 00:47:34,417 And what about you? 993 00:47:34,542 --> 00:47:35,708 What's going on? 994 00:47:35,792 --> 00:47:37,750 Well, I just got out of the hospital. 995 00:47:37,833 --> 00:47:39,208 It's been a week? 996 00:47:41,875 --> 00:47:43,500 I found out I had cancer. 997 00:47:43,625 --> 00:47:45,458 Oh, God. 998 00:47:45,542 --> 00:47:47,000 I'm sorry. 999 00:47:47,042 --> 00:47:48,625 The last few months have been just-- 1000 00:47:48,708 --> 00:47:49,458 Horrible. 1001 00:47:49,542 --> 00:47:51,125 Yeah. 1002 00:47:51,208 --> 00:47:53,333 I'm always nagging Shantell about her going to treatment, 1003 00:47:53,417 --> 00:47:55,042 especially now that I'm sick, because it 1004 00:47:55,208 --> 00:48:01,000 just worries me that I-- you know, I'm not gonna be there. 1005 00:48:01,125 --> 00:48:03,083 With my mom, there's definitely, like, 1006 00:48:03,208 --> 00:48:06,208 a sense of, like, urgency, and it makes me really stressed out 1007 00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:08,958 because I don't think anyone's gonna get 1008 00:48:09,042 --> 00:48:11,083 clean until they're ready to. 1009 00:48:11,208 --> 00:48:13,333 Because you're sick, she can, in her mind, 1010 00:48:13,458 --> 00:48:15,875 feel trapped, like but I can't leave because you're sick. 1011 00:48:15,958 --> 00:48:17,375 Mm-hmm, and she's said that before. 1012 00:48:17,458 --> 00:48:18,417 Ah, see? 1013 00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:19,542 I have to be there for mom. 1014 00:48:19,667 --> 00:48:20,833 No, you need to set a boundary. 1015 00:48:20,875 --> 00:48:22,000 Yeah. I told her. 1016 00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:23,500 I said, you know, if I have to fight, 1017 00:48:23,542 --> 00:48:24,875 you're gonna have to fight. 1018 00:48:24,875 --> 00:48:25,875 You know? 1019 00:48:25,875 --> 00:48:27,000 I got to go through chemo. 1020 00:48:27,042 --> 00:48:29,208 I got to want to get better. 1021 00:48:29,292 --> 00:48:30,333 Yeah. 1022 00:48:30,375 --> 00:48:31,750 Say, OK, you got six months to live. 1023 00:48:31,875 --> 00:48:34,292 My wish would be for you to get better 1024 00:48:34,375 --> 00:48:36,458 so that I could leave this world knowing 1025 00:48:36,542 --> 00:48:38,333 that you're gonna be OK. 1026 00:48:38,458 --> 00:48:42,667 If I were to die next month and Shantell-- 1027 00:48:42,708 --> 00:48:44,458 Wasn't sober and healthy in herself. 1028 00:48:44,542 --> 00:48:47,042 Yeah, I mean, it would-- 1029 00:48:47,125 --> 00:48:48,542 I wouldn't be able to let go. 1030 00:48:48,625 --> 00:48:49,708 I mean-- 1031 00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:50,667 Yeah, we need to help them. 1032 00:48:50,708 --> 00:48:52,083 Yeah. 1033 00:48:52,167 --> 00:48:54,500 If they stay together, they're not gonna make it. 1034 00:48:54,583 --> 00:48:56,833 Yeah. 1035 00:48:56,917 --> 00:48:59,875 [tense music] 1036 00:49:06,958 --> 00:49:08,542 How come you're driving? 1037 00:49:09,792 --> 00:49:11,417 Of course, we're going straight there. 1038 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,333 Be right back. 1039 00:49:13,375 --> 00:49:16,125 Alex was, like, one of my best friends. 1040 00:49:17,708 --> 00:49:21,125 But he overdosed and passed away five years ago today. 1041 00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:23,083 Shantell and I are going to Alex's memorial 1042 00:49:23,167 --> 00:49:25,167 with Lane, Adrian, and our families. 1043 00:50:05,417 --> 00:50:06,750 Excuse me. 1044 00:50:06,833 --> 00:50:09,625 [tense music] 1045 00:50:21,125 --> 00:50:24,125 [somber music] 1046 00:50:31,083 --> 00:50:33,000 I have known Alex since kindergarten. 1047 00:50:33,042 --> 00:50:36,083 I had heard from a friend that Alex had overdosed 1048 00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:41,167 and that he was gone. 1049 00:50:41,208 --> 00:50:43,375 It was one of the worst things that-- that's 1050 00:50:43,458 --> 00:50:44,667 ever happened to me, probably. 1051 00:50:48,333 --> 00:50:51,333 Well, I want to thank you guys all for coming today. 1052 00:50:51,375 --> 00:50:54,292 I know it was hard, and I know it's cold. 1053 00:50:54,375 --> 00:50:57,167 This sucks without Shantell here. 1054 00:50:57,250 --> 00:50:58,875 We do everything together. 1055 00:50:58,958 --> 00:51:02,750 I mean, it's just a lot more depressing and a lot harder. 1056 00:51:02,833 --> 00:51:04,417 I'm sure glad you guys came. 1057 00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:16,833 Garrett, he hasn't really grieved or really dealt 1058 00:51:16,917 --> 00:51:18,833 with it, like, emotionally. 1059 00:51:18,917 --> 00:51:20,958 So he started using drugs a lot more. 1060 00:51:21,042 --> 00:51:23,667 You know, that makes us fight, and that's just 1061 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:27,625 too much to handle sometimes. 1062 00:51:27,708 --> 00:51:29,167 It was good seeing you. 1063 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:32,083 I thought when Garrett's friends were dying, 1064 00:51:32,167 --> 00:51:33,792 he might snap out of it, you know? 1065 00:51:33,875 --> 00:51:36,167 I was like, oh, my God. 1066 00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:40,667 That could happen to me, too, but it's not. 1067 00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:41,833 I love you, too. 1068 00:51:41,917 --> 00:51:44,667 The drug use is getting worse. 1069 00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:47,583 [tense music] 1070 00:51:58,917 --> 00:52:02,083 Seeing one of my best friends lying there dead like that, 1071 00:52:02,208 --> 00:52:04,000 yeah, I really don't want things to end up turning 1072 00:52:04,083 --> 00:52:06,042 out like that with myself. 1073 00:52:06,167 --> 00:52:08,500 Definitely wanting to start doing better in life 1074 00:52:08,583 --> 00:52:11,333 and actually live, you know, and not 1075 00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:15,083 have to frigging worry about supporting this habit anymore. 1076 00:52:24,875 --> 00:52:25,500 Sorry, Mom. 1077 00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:27,208 I don't care. 1078 00:52:27,292 --> 00:52:28,625 I'm gonna smoke this. 1079 00:52:28,708 --> 00:52:29,667 Sorry. 1080 00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:32,750 Yes, I'm afraid of death. 1081 00:52:32,833 --> 00:52:35,958 I think about death a lot because there's so much death 1082 00:52:35,958 --> 00:52:38,000 going on around me all the time. 1083 00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:39,625 But I can't stop using fentanyl. 1084 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:47,583 Using feels pretty amazing. 1085 00:52:47,583 --> 00:52:49,542 It feels like all my problems have gone away. 1086 00:52:59,542 --> 00:53:02,333 Garrett's number one priority is his addiction 1087 00:53:02,333 --> 00:53:07,083 I'm afraid he's going to get some bad dope and O.D. 1088 00:53:07,167 --> 00:53:08,667 And that's scary. 1089 00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:11,417 [tense music] 1090 00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:20,375 How do you want to do it? 1091 00:53:20,458 --> 00:53:22,208 Well, I want to do Garrett and Shantell together. 1092 00:53:22,292 --> 00:53:24,583 That way, we can do the preintervention together. 1093 00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:26,292 That way, we can have them set up 1094 00:53:26,375 --> 00:53:28,167 to do an intervention together because I do really 1095 00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:30,958 want to use, like, the codependency between Garrett 1096 00:53:31,042 --> 00:53:33,375 and Shantell in our favor. 1097 00:53:33,458 --> 00:53:35,083 From what you've just told me, we 1098 00:53:35,167 --> 00:53:39,792 also have to stand strong to make sure that Garrett's mom-- 1099 00:53:39,875 --> 00:53:41,208 Mm-hmm. 1100 00:53:41,292 --> 00:53:42,833 --can't cause any interference there. 1101 00:53:42,875 --> 00:53:43,708 Yep. 1102 00:53:43,792 --> 00:53:45,167 We know she drinks. 1103 00:53:45,208 --> 00:53:46,750 We don't to what extent. 1104 00:53:46,833 --> 00:53:49,208 But I believe that she's probably drinking more 1105 00:53:49,333 --> 00:53:50,792 than people are letting on. 1106 00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:54,167 There's a big level of codependency and enablement 1107 00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:56,292 between Garrett and Connie. 1108 00:53:56,375 --> 00:53:58,167 And it goes both ways. 1109 00:53:58,292 --> 00:53:59,750 They're in communication daily. 1110 00:53:59,833 --> 00:54:02,417 Like, Connie has emotional pull and leverage. 1111 00:54:02,542 --> 00:54:05,375 Unless Connie says, I love you, I support this, 1112 00:54:05,458 --> 00:54:07,042 I think you should get healthy-- 1113 00:54:07,167 --> 00:54:09,708 unless we get that from her, I don't think Garrett's going. 1114 00:54:09,708 --> 00:54:12,625 You're saying that Garrett wouldn't go without Connie? 1115 00:54:12,625 --> 00:54:15,417 You don't think Shantell going is enough leverage? 1116 00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:17,500 In and of itself, no, I don't think it's enough. 1117 00:54:17,583 --> 00:54:19,208 We need his mom, Connie, involved. 1118 00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:20,583 This is my plan. 1119 00:54:20,708 --> 00:54:23,500 We leave Connie out of the preintervention. 1120 00:54:23,583 --> 00:54:24,792 OK. 1121 00:54:24,875 --> 00:54:26,583 We don't include her at all, because then we 1122 00:54:26,667 --> 00:54:29,000 have a whole day gap between the time we do a preintervention 1123 00:54:29,083 --> 00:54:31,542 and an intervention, and there's a whole lot of opportunity 1124 00:54:31,667 --> 00:54:34,292 for Connie to go backdooring us and going straight to Garrett 1125 00:54:34,375 --> 00:54:36,000 and letting him know exactly what's going on. 1126 00:54:36,042 --> 00:54:37,292 Right, right. 1127 00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:39,417 So we don't include her in any way, 1128 00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,958 shape, form, or fashion until the day of the intervention. 1129 00:54:42,042 --> 00:54:43,542 All right, well, I'm down. 1130 00:54:43,625 --> 00:54:45,542 Come on, we got a lot of work to do, but we got a plan. 1131 00:54:45,625 --> 00:54:47,792 So at this point, we just need to go execute it. 1132 00:54:47,875 --> 00:54:48,750 Love it. Let's do it. 1133 00:54:48,750 --> 00:54:50,833 Cool. 1134 00:54:50,875 --> 00:54:53,667 [somber music] 1135 00:54:57,458 --> 00:54:58,667 - Hey. - How are you? 1136 00:54:58,750 --> 00:54:59,583 I'm good. 1137 00:54:59,583 --> 00:55:00,958 I'm Zack. 1138 00:55:01,042 --> 00:55:02,542 We don't know what the future holds for this couple. 1139 00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:05,417 That's why we need to bring both families together. 1140 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,167 If Garrett and Shantell come back, they relapse, they AMA, 1141 00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:11,708 anything in between, we still need the families unified. 1142 00:55:11,792 --> 00:55:14,750 So, guys, thank you for-- for real, for being here. 1143 00:55:14,833 --> 00:55:17,208 I know we're all here for the same reason, right , is we 1144 00:55:17,292 --> 00:55:18,792 want these two to get healthy. - Yep. 1145 00:55:18,875 --> 00:55:20,125 Right? 1146 00:55:20,125 --> 00:55:21,208 So we need to become a team on this. 1147 00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,500 I wanted to exclude Connie from today. 1148 00:55:23,542 --> 00:55:25,250 There's a lot of time between right now 1149 00:55:25,375 --> 00:55:27,250 and the time of intervention tomorrow for things 1150 00:55:27,333 --> 00:55:28,583 to go sideways. 1151 00:55:28,667 --> 00:55:30,833 But we want to bring Connie in tomorrow 1152 00:55:30,917 --> 00:55:34,833 prior to the actual intervention to ask for her to be involved 1153 00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:38,083 in the process because Connie's got the emotional pull 1154 00:55:38,167 --> 00:55:39,792 with Garrett. 1155 00:55:39,875 --> 00:55:43,167 If Garrett can hear his mom say, hey, I love you, it's OK, 1156 00:55:43,250 --> 00:55:46,500 go to treatment, that's gonna have so much pull on him. 1157 00:55:46,542 --> 00:55:47,792 Yes. 1158 00:55:47,875 --> 00:55:49,458 How do you guys feel about the relationship 1159 00:55:49,542 --> 00:55:51,625 between Garrett and Shantell? 1160 00:55:51,708 --> 00:55:53,167 I didn't think it was a healthy 1161 00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:54,750 relationship for 'em to be in. 1162 00:55:54,833 --> 00:55:56,917 I thought it was gonna be pretty self-destructive. 1163 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,208 There's a lot of fighting, a lot of arguing over mainly 1164 00:56:00,292 --> 00:56:01,958 who's got the dope and who don't, you know? 1165 00:56:01,958 --> 00:56:04,167 They depend on each other because they have some kind 1166 00:56:04,292 --> 00:56:05,875 of trust between them. 1167 00:56:05,875 --> 00:56:07,833 But we can all agree that this is not a functional-- 1168 00:56:07,833 --> 00:56:08,667 Yes. 1169 00:56:08,708 --> 00:56:09,417 Absolutely. 1170 00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:10,917 --healthy relationship. 1171 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:17,208 So what have we done with good intentions that may 1172 00:56:17,292 --> 00:56:19,417 have allowed this to continue? 1173 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:21,042 Give money. 1174 00:56:21,125 --> 00:56:23,083 Any dollar amounts or frequency, anything like that? 1175 00:56:23,167 --> 00:56:25,167 Anywhere from $4 to $20. 1176 00:56:25,250 --> 00:56:26,667 Mm-hmm. 1177 00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:29,375 I mean, just, like, what are you gonna do with $4? 1178 00:56:29,458 --> 00:56:31,167 You can do a lot with $4 when it's fentanyl. 1179 00:56:31,292 --> 00:56:32,500 Yeah. 1180 00:56:32,583 --> 00:56:34,042 - It's-- it's dirt, dirt cheap. - Yeah. 1181 00:56:34,125 --> 00:56:35,333 What about with Garrett? 1182 00:56:35,417 --> 00:56:37,333 I cut him off pretty much in high school. 1183 00:56:37,375 --> 00:56:38,833 My mom helps him out. 1184 00:56:38,958 --> 00:56:40,583 I don't know how much she really helps him out. 1185 00:56:40,708 --> 00:56:43,167 So she's definitely been a part of their abuse and stuff 1186 00:56:43,292 --> 00:56:44,792 they've been doing. 1187 00:56:44,875 --> 00:56:46,542 Peggy, you've been quiet, but you've got that look 1188 00:56:46,625 --> 00:56:48,250 of, like, real concern. 1189 00:56:48,333 --> 00:56:49,875 What's going on in your head? 1190 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,542 I mean, it's gonna be hard because I'm sick right now, 1191 00:56:53,625 --> 00:56:58,417 and I don't want her to use that as an excuse not to go. 1192 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,458 You have to stand strong saying it's your wish, 1193 00:57:01,542 --> 00:57:03,167 your dying wish, for her to get better. 1194 00:57:03,208 --> 00:57:04,833 Yeah. 1195 00:57:04,917 --> 00:57:06,250 Not the excuse, well, I've got to be there for my mom, 1196 00:57:06,333 --> 00:57:07,500 because she's not there for you right now. 1197 00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:08,333 That's the truth. 1198 00:57:08,417 --> 00:57:09,542 Yeah, she's not. 1199 00:57:09,667 --> 00:57:11,042 I'm gonna flip that around-- - Yes. 1200 00:57:11,125 --> 00:57:12,375 --on her. 1201 00:57:12,458 --> 00:57:14,292 You know, the best thing you could do for me 1202 00:57:14,375 --> 00:57:15,750 is go get better right now. 1203 00:57:15,833 --> 00:57:18,250 That way, if something does happen to me, 1204 00:57:18,375 --> 00:57:22,208 I know that you're gonna be OK. 1205 00:57:22,333 --> 00:57:25,000 On tomorrow, if we get a yes from one, 1206 00:57:25,042 --> 00:57:28,250 there's a high probability we can get a yes from the second. 1207 00:57:28,375 --> 00:57:30,917 On the flip side, though, if one says no, 1208 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,792 the other is, for sure, saying no. 1209 00:57:32,875 --> 00:57:33,792 Yeah. 1210 00:57:33,875 --> 00:57:36,125 So if we're all committed together, 1211 00:57:36,208 --> 00:57:37,458 we've got more weight. 1212 00:57:37,542 --> 00:57:38,417 They get better. 1213 00:57:38,542 --> 00:57:39,583 - Yeah. - OK? 1214 00:57:39,667 --> 00:57:41,000 Well, we'll see you guys tomorrow. 1215 00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:42,167 - Yeah. - Thank you. 1216 00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:43,500 - Hey, likewise. - Absolutely. 1217 00:57:43,583 --> 00:57:45,375 Garrett and Shantell's relationship 1218 00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:51,250 has literally been founded in drug addiction the entire time. 1219 00:57:51,375 --> 00:57:53,167 So what we're really asking is that they 1220 00:57:53,208 --> 00:57:56,833 give up everything that they know of that relationship. 1221 00:57:56,917 --> 00:57:59,500 [tense music] 1222 00:57:59,583 --> 00:58:02,833 I mean, this is a big ask. 1223 00:58:02,958 --> 00:58:06,042 There's really no way to gauge how they're gonna react to that 1224 00:58:06,125 --> 00:58:07,833 and how it's gonna go. 1225 00:58:07,875 --> 00:58:10,583 [tense music] 1226 00:58:11,917 --> 00:58:12,667 Yeah. 1227 00:58:22,542 --> 00:58:23,833 What's up, man? 1228 00:58:23,917 --> 00:58:25,292 - How's it going, Zach? - It's going good. 1229 00:58:25,375 --> 00:58:26,750 How are you? - Good, good. 1230 00:58:26,833 --> 00:58:28,542 Garrett's brother was a little concerned 1231 00:58:28,625 --> 00:58:30,917 that their mother wouldn't be able to keep the secret. 1232 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,875 She's here. 1233 00:58:32,958 --> 00:58:35,417 She's been enabling Garrett a lot lately, 1234 00:58:35,542 --> 00:58:38,833 so she doesn't know about the intervention yet. 1235 00:58:38,875 --> 00:58:42,125 [tense music] 1236 00:58:45,542 --> 00:58:46,833 Hey. Hey. 1237 00:58:46,875 --> 00:58:47,625 Hey. 1238 00:58:52,583 --> 00:58:55,833 So good to see you. 1239 00:58:55,917 --> 00:58:58,083 See the baby? 1240 00:58:58,208 --> 00:59:01,375 Oh, my goodness. 1241 00:59:01,458 --> 00:59:03,500 Go ahead and take a seat right here. 1242 00:59:03,583 --> 00:59:05,500 Hi there, precious. 1243 00:59:05,625 --> 00:59:08,333 Oh, you are just a doll baby. 1244 00:59:08,375 --> 00:59:09,833 Look at you. 1245 00:59:09,917 --> 00:59:11,417 She's beautiful, Cassie. - Mm-hmm. 1246 00:59:11,542 --> 00:59:12,833 Thank you. 1247 00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:13,917 Hey, I'm Zach Livingston, by the way. 1248 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,375 - Nice to meet you. - Yeah, you too. 1249 00:59:15,458 --> 00:59:16,500 You too. 1250 00:59:16,542 --> 00:59:17,375 Hey, one, thanks for coming. 1251 00:59:17,458 --> 00:59:18,667 Yeah. 1252 00:59:18,792 --> 00:59:19,833 I'm a substance abuse professional. 1253 00:59:19,958 --> 00:59:21,375 I'm an interventionist. - Mm-hmm. 1254 00:59:21,458 --> 00:59:24,042 And today, what we really want to do 1255 00:59:24,125 --> 00:59:26,917 is be able to offer him some help. 1256 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,667 We want to hand him, like, the golden opportunity to, like, 1257 00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:32,958 get sober and, like, do treatment. 1258 00:59:33,042 --> 00:59:33,833 Really? 1259 00:59:33,917 --> 00:59:34,500 [exhales] 1260 00:59:34,583 --> 00:59:36,167 I know. 1261 00:59:36,250 --> 00:59:39,500 So we really want you to be involved in that process, 1262 00:59:39,625 --> 00:59:40,667 if you're willing. 1263 00:59:40,667 --> 00:59:42,500 We always talked about the day-- 1264 00:59:42,583 --> 00:59:44,000 Yeah. 1265 00:59:44,042 --> 00:59:46,375 --that, you know, he would start his healing. 1266 00:59:46,458 --> 00:59:47,500 - Today's that day. - Oh. 1267 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,667 For real. 1268 00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:50,000 We're gonna hand Garrett a miracle. 1269 00:59:50,125 --> 00:59:52,542 Today's the day, and you get to be a part of it. 1270 00:59:52,625 --> 00:59:54,000 Now, I have to ask you, though. 1271 00:59:54,042 --> 00:59:57,500 Like, in the past, how have you enabled him? 1272 00:59:57,542 --> 00:59:59,208 I have given him money. 1273 00:59:59,208 --> 01:00:00,625 OK. 1274 01:00:00,708 --> 01:00:02,167 And I know what he-- he-- he spends it on. 1275 01:00:02,250 --> 01:00:03,500 Mm-hmm. 1276 01:00:03,542 --> 01:00:05,750 I live in an RV, which I kind of bit 1277 01:00:05,833 --> 01:00:07,333 off more than I could chew and didn't 1278 01:00:07,417 --> 01:00:08,542 realize how hard it would be. 1279 01:00:08,667 --> 01:00:10,000 And so he does come and help me. 1280 01:00:10,125 --> 01:00:12,500 And I'm afraid his rebuttal might be, 1281 01:00:12,583 --> 01:00:13,667 I can't, I got to stay here. 1282 01:00:13,708 --> 01:00:15,000 I got to help my mom. 1283 01:00:15,083 --> 01:00:16,292 Almost like he's gonna need your permission. 1284 01:00:16,375 --> 01:00:16,833 - He can't leave me? - Mm-hmm. 1285 01:00:16,875 --> 01:00:18,375 Yeah. 1286 01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:19,792 Like, he's gonna need to hear you say, like, hey, it's OK, 1287 01:00:19,792 --> 01:00:20,833 I love you, and I want you to do this. 1288 01:00:20,917 --> 01:00:22,167 Like, this is the best plan. 1289 01:00:22,208 --> 01:00:23,500 Like, go get healthy. 1290 01:00:23,542 --> 01:00:25,875 Going forward, the enabling stops. 1291 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000 OK. 1292 01:00:27,083 --> 01:00:28,167 That's not gonna be an issue for me. 1293 01:00:28,292 --> 01:00:29,583 - OK, cool. - Yeah, yeah. 1294 01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:31,000 Just to catch you up to speed, we 1295 01:00:31,042 --> 01:00:32,583 think the best way to go about this 1296 01:00:32,667 --> 01:00:35,167 is to do an intervention for Shantell 1297 01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:37,375 and an intervention for Garrett at the same time 1298 01:00:37,375 --> 01:00:38,500 with both families. 1299 01:00:38,625 --> 01:00:40,292 Yeah, that's-- that's-- that's awesome 1300 01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:43,000 because they just kind of feed off of each other, you know? 1301 01:00:43,042 --> 01:00:44,000 Mm-hmm. 1302 01:00:44,083 --> 01:00:45,083 And she needs it as much as he does. 1303 01:00:45,167 --> 01:00:46,167 - Yeah. - Exactly. 1304 01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:47,833 When these two get here-- - Uh-huh. 1305 01:00:47,875 --> 01:00:49,042 --we're gonna stay calm. We're gonna stay cool. 1306 01:00:49,167 --> 01:00:50,958 We're gonna stay collected. - Uh-huh. 1307 01:00:51,042 --> 01:00:53,167 Me and Mike are gonna guide you guys every step of the way. 1308 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:54,375 OK. 1309 01:00:54,458 --> 01:00:55,292 - Let's get it done, OK? - OK. 1310 01:00:55,417 --> 01:00:56,458 Cool. 1311 01:00:56,542 --> 01:00:59,625 [tense music] 1312 01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:11,125 Perfect. 1313 01:01:11,208 --> 01:01:12,542 Thanks, Laura. 1314 01:01:12,542 --> 01:01:13,500 - How we feeling? - I'm nervous. 1315 01:01:13,583 --> 01:01:14,542 You guys ready? 1316 01:01:14,625 --> 01:01:15,500 Nervous? Positive? 1317 01:01:15,542 --> 01:01:16,875 - Nervous. - Excited. 1318 01:01:16,958 --> 01:01:17,708 Hopeful. 1319 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:18,917 We're locked and loaded, man. 1320 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,208 Von, you ready? - I'm ready. 1321 01:01:20,292 --> 01:01:21,000 I'm ready. 1322 01:01:26,708 --> 01:01:28,083 - OK, got it. - Yeah. 1323 01:01:28,083 --> 01:01:29,500 Nice and easy, guys. Relax. 1324 01:01:29,542 --> 01:01:30,667 We'll be good. - Yeah. 1325 01:01:30,750 --> 01:01:32,625 Go time. 1326 01:01:32,708 --> 01:01:35,792 [tense music] 1327 01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:40,667 Breathe and relax, all right? 1328 01:01:51,542 --> 01:01:52,542 OK. 1329 01:01:52,625 --> 01:01:53,625 - Hey, Garrett-- - Hey, guys. 1330 01:01:53,708 --> 01:01:54,500 - --Shantell. - Hi. 1331 01:01:54,583 --> 01:01:55,667 Hi. 1332 01:01:55,792 --> 01:01:57,042 You can come around here. 1333 01:01:57,125 --> 01:01:57,792 Come on. 1334 01:02:07,208 --> 01:02:08,500 I love you. 1335 01:02:08,583 --> 01:02:09,792 I'll just sit right here. 1336 01:02:12,958 --> 01:02:15,583 Well, guys, my name is Zach. 1337 01:02:15,667 --> 01:02:16,375 This is Mike. 1338 01:02:16,458 --> 01:02:17,833 Hi, guys. 1339 01:02:17,917 --> 01:02:19,792 And we're both substance abuse professionals, 1340 01:02:19,875 --> 01:02:22,667 and today, we want to have a conversation 1341 01:02:22,708 --> 01:02:24,333 about your drug addiction. 1342 01:02:24,375 --> 01:02:26,667 There's a lot of love in this room for you on both sides. 1343 01:02:26,750 --> 01:02:28,833 They've put some time and effort in to writing 1344 01:02:28,917 --> 01:02:30,708 their thoughts down on paper, and they were 1345 01:02:30,833 --> 01:02:32,958 hoping to share those with you. 1346 01:02:33,042 --> 01:02:34,958 Jody? 1347 01:02:35,042 --> 01:02:38,083 "Shantell, I love you past the moon and the stars. 1348 01:02:38,167 --> 01:02:41,833 You're kind, silly, and when you love, 1349 01:02:41,917 --> 01:02:43,667 you love with your whole heart. 1350 01:02:43,708 --> 01:02:45,625 You've always been very special to me, 1351 01:02:45,708 --> 01:02:47,333 and I hope you've always felt that. 1352 01:02:47,417 --> 01:02:49,750 And I hope you see the love and support you have 1353 01:02:49,833 --> 01:02:51,167 to help you through anything. 1354 01:02:51,208 --> 01:02:53,917 I only wish that best for you and hope 1355 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,625 that you see this as an opportunity that can change 1356 01:02:56,708 --> 01:02:58,083 your life for the better. 1357 01:02:58,167 --> 01:02:59,083 I love you." 1358 01:02:59,208 --> 01:03:00,500 Thanks, Jody. 1359 01:03:00,542 --> 01:03:01,667 Jason? 1360 01:03:01,750 --> 01:03:05,792 "Shantell, I remember when we-- 1361 01:03:05,875 --> 01:03:07,625 when we were a lot closer. 1362 01:03:07,708 --> 01:03:09,625 We used to take a lot of trips together. 1363 01:03:09,625 --> 01:03:12,833 I would give anything to make more memories like that. 1364 01:03:12,875 --> 01:03:17,208 Your addiction has taken my little sister away. 1365 01:03:17,292 --> 01:03:20,333 And that worries me. 1366 01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:22,958 I love you." 1367 01:03:23,042 --> 01:03:26,458 "Shantell, I'm writing you this letter from my heart. 1368 01:03:26,542 --> 01:03:29,167 We have lost our way. 1369 01:03:29,208 --> 01:03:32,083 I miss the way I could fix things when you were little. 1370 01:03:32,208 --> 01:03:36,750 Moms always have a way of fixing stuff and making things better. 1371 01:03:36,875 --> 01:03:40,333 I know you are worried about me being sick. 1372 01:03:40,417 --> 01:03:43,958 The best thing you can do for me, if this were my dying wish, 1373 01:03:44,042 --> 01:03:48,042 is for you to fight for your life as well 1374 01:03:48,125 --> 01:03:50,667 and accept this life-changing gift 1375 01:03:50,750 --> 01:03:54,167 and fight with me so we can both have lots 1376 01:03:54,250 --> 01:03:58,167 more time to enjoy life as it should be. 1377 01:03:58,250 --> 01:04:02,000 So please, please, would you fight with me? 1378 01:04:02,083 --> 01:04:05,667 I love you so much, and we can do this together. 1379 01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:08,542 Love, Mom." 1380 01:04:08,625 --> 01:04:11,542 I'm asking you to accept this gift 1381 01:04:11,625 --> 01:04:14,083 that they are offering you. 1382 01:04:14,167 --> 01:04:15,333 Please fight with me. 1383 01:04:18,458 --> 01:04:20,167 We would leave today. 1384 01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:23,083 [tense music] 1385 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:37,042 It's OK. It's OK. 1386 01:04:37,125 --> 01:04:38,375 I don't want to talk to you. 1387 01:04:42,208 --> 01:04:42,750 Are you OK? 1388 01:04:42,833 --> 01:04:43,750 It's OK, Shantell. 1389 01:04:43,833 --> 01:04:46,417 No, this is [bleep] up. 1390 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:48,208 [tense music] 1391 01:04:52,292 --> 01:04:52,833 It's OK, Shantell. 1392 01:04:52,875 --> 01:04:54,250 No, this is [bleep] up. 1393 01:04:54,333 --> 01:04:56,000 I don't want to talk to anyone right now. 1394 01:04:56,083 --> 01:04:59,500 Just please leave me by myself right now. 1395 01:04:59,583 --> 01:05:02,542 [tense music] 1396 01:05:19,542 --> 01:05:21,458 Right now, yeah. 1397 01:05:21,542 --> 01:05:22,458 He's ready. 1398 01:05:22,542 --> 01:05:23,458 I think he is. 1399 01:05:23,542 --> 01:05:24,333 She's scared. 1400 01:05:24,417 --> 01:05:25,167 She's scared. 1401 01:05:26,708 --> 01:05:27,750 Yeah. 1402 01:05:27,833 --> 01:05:28,792 How strong are you right now-- 1403 01:05:28,875 --> 01:05:29,833 I'm good. 1404 01:05:29,917 --> 01:05:31,000 - --emotionally? - I'm OK. 1405 01:05:31,083 --> 01:05:32,417 Do you want to come with me? 1406 01:05:32,417 --> 01:05:34,083 Yeah. 1407 01:05:34,167 --> 01:05:36,667 The goal is not to tear you guys apart. 1408 01:05:36,708 --> 01:05:38,167 The goal is to allow you guys to have 1409 01:05:38,167 --> 01:05:39,375 an opportunity to be healthy. 1410 01:05:52,875 --> 01:05:54,958 Just get the [bleep] away from me right now! 1411 01:05:55,042 --> 01:05:56,500 I'm literally about to take off if you 1412 01:05:56,625 --> 01:05:57,875 guys don't quit following me. 1413 01:05:57,958 --> 01:05:58,667 What the [bleep]? 1414 01:06:03,292 --> 01:06:07,083 Right now, you can see how deep the codependency runs. 1415 01:06:07,167 --> 01:06:09,417 And she's so caught in her addiction 1416 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:15,333 that she would rather use and be in pain than lose Garrett. 1417 01:06:15,458 --> 01:06:17,250 And I think what we're gonna have to do 1418 01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:19,500 is have Garrett lean into her and say, 1419 01:06:19,583 --> 01:06:22,583 hey, you want to have a healthy relationship, I'm going. 1420 01:06:33,875 --> 01:06:35,208 - Is Garrett with her now? - Yeah, yeah. 1421 01:06:35,292 --> 01:06:36,542 - Are they out back? - Yeah, yeah. 1422 01:06:36,667 --> 01:06:37,583 Cool. Cool, cool, cool. 1423 01:06:45,208 --> 01:06:46,708 We'll go for him, get him in-- 1424 01:06:46,792 --> 01:06:48,125 Mm-hmm. 1425 01:06:48,208 --> 01:06:49,583 --and then establish the bottom lines. 1426 01:06:49,667 --> 01:06:51,750 If we got to play bottom lines, we'll play bottom lines. 1427 01:06:51,833 --> 01:06:54,250 But let's see what Garrett can do on his own first. 1428 01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:55,792 And she's the most receptive to him. 1429 01:06:55,875 --> 01:06:56,625 Yes. 1430 01:06:58,542 --> 01:07:00,333 I'm sure they're worried about each other. 1431 01:07:00,375 --> 01:07:01,000 - Yes. - Yeah. 1432 01:07:01,042 --> 01:07:01,958 Yeah, immensely. 1433 01:07:02,042 --> 01:07:03,458 That totally what it is. 1434 01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:05,417 Because if one leaves, and then it's like, oh, no, 1435 01:07:05,542 --> 01:07:06,167 what am I gonna do? 1436 01:07:06,208 --> 01:07:07,292 How is he gonna survive? 1437 01:07:07,375 --> 01:07:08,292 Yeah. 1438 01:07:08,375 --> 01:07:09,417 I know. 1439 01:07:09,542 --> 01:07:11,208 All right, so Garrett's with her now. 1440 01:07:11,292 --> 01:07:13,500 And it sounds like they're slowly making their way back. 1441 01:07:13,583 --> 01:07:14,250 OK. 1442 01:07:24,708 --> 01:07:25,667 Sorry. 1443 01:07:25,708 --> 01:07:26,542 Zach? 1444 01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:47,500 You just want to knock and say Garrett? 1445 01:07:47,583 --> 01:07:48,292 Yeah. 1446 01:07:59,042 --> 01:07:59,833 Hey, Garrett? 1447 01:07:59,958 --> 01:08:01,125 Yeah? 1448 01:08:01,208 --> 01:08:02,292 Are you ready to come back in, man? 1449 01:08:03,542 --> 01:08:04,292 Cool. 1450 01:08:08,583 --> 01:08:10,292 We know they're getting high in there, 1451 01:08:10,375 --> 01:08:12,125 but now we know that they're not slumped over 1452 01:08:12,208 --> 01:08:14,167 or [bleep] nodded out in there. 1453 01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:22,000 Are you guys ready to finish up? 1454 01:08:22,125 --> 01:08:23,208 OK, come on. 1455 01:08:26,542 --> 01:08:28,333 You guys want to come over to the balcony? 1456 01:08:28,417 --> 01:08:31,792 That would be out of the rain. 1457 01:08:31,875 --> 01:08:34,958 I have no idea. 1458 01:08:35,042 --> 01:08:38,458 [tense music] 1459 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,750 OK. 1460 01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:49,750 You want to read out first? 1461 01:08:53,417 --> 01:08:55,833 "Garrett, I always think about the endless amount of time 1462 01:08:55,875 --> 01:08:58,000 we spent together as kids hiking, 1463 01:08:58,083 --> 01:09:00,833 fishing, hunting, how much fun we had. 1464 01:09:00,917 --> 01:09:04,000 You are missing out on bonding with my daughters 1465 01:09:04,042 --> 01:09:05,958 as their uncle. 1466 01:09:06,042 --> 01:09:08,667 I love you, and I can't wait for you to be a part of our lives 1467 01:09:08,792 --> 01:09:09,500 once again, Garrett." 1468 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,625 Connie, I know you took some time to write something down, 1469 01:09:14,708 --> 01:09:15,500 too. - Yes. 1470 01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:22,750 "My dear son, Garrett, who I love more than life itself, 1471 01:09:22,833 --> 01:09:26,583 I became very frightened and spent a lot of time 1472 01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:31,000 worrying about what can I do for you, how can I help you, 1473 01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:33,542 especially when I'm an addict, too. 1474 01:09:33,542 --> 01:09:37,000 You have so much to offer in the way of things that would 1475 01:09:37,083 --> 01:09:38,958 make you happy in your life. 1476 01:09:39,042 --> 01:09:43,333 And I can't wait for the day to see my son smiling and his head 1477 01:09:43,375 --> 01:09:46,875 and his eyes clear, as he gets to enjoy 1478 01:09:46,958 --> 01:09:51,083 life with his girlfriend, who is going to be clean, too. 1479 01:09:51,167 --> 01:09:53,500 And I so much want that for you, Garrett. 1480 01:09:53,667 --> 01:09:58,667 And I'm gonna ask you, please, please accept this help." 1481 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,875 Will you accept going to treatment? 1482 01:10:06,958 --> 01:10:09,792 Are you accepting the offer? 1483 01:10:09,875 --> 01:10:11,708 [tense music] 1484 01:10:16,042 --> 01:10:20,792 And I'm gonna ask you, please, please accept this help. 1485 01:10:24,375 --> 01:10:26,167 Are you-- are you accepting the offer? 1486 01:10:30,167 --> 01:10:31,125 - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 1487 01:10:31,208 --> 01:10:32,167 Shantell? 1488 01:10:33,417 --> 01:10:34,083 Yeah? 1489 01:10:34,167 --> 01:10:35,417 OK, great. 1490 01:10:38,042 --> 01:10:39,833 I love you so much. 1491 01:10:39,958 --> 01:10:40,833 Big step. 1492 01:10:40,875 --> 01:10:41,583 This place is amazing. 1493 01:10:48,208 --> 01:10:50,792 I'm feeling really good and really relieved. 1494 01:10:50,875 --> 01:10:53,500 Shantell going to treatment is gonna be tremendous. 1495 01:10:53,583 --> 01:10:55,750 I know she's in a safe place, and she's getting help. 1496 01:11:12,042 --> 01:11:14,750 It's not gonna be easy. 1497 01:11:14,833 --> 01:11:15,500 But she's got it. 1498 01:11:18,708 --> 01:11:20,833 Just stay strong. 1499 01:11:20,875 --> 01:11:22,708 OK. 1500 01:11:22,833 --> 01:11:24,083 Oh. - I love you. 1501 01:11:24,167 --> 01:11:24,875 I love you, too. 1502 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,208 All right. 1503 01:11:26,292 --> 01:11:27,667 With happiness and joy in my heart, 1504 01:11:27,792 --> 01:11:31,667 I can't believe that this happened. 1505 01:11:31,708 --> 01:11:33,833 They're gonna take care of you, honey. 1506 01:11:33,917 --> 01:11:38,083 For those kids to say yes, I can go home this evening 1507 01:11:38,208 --> 01:11:41,833 with joy in my heart and hope. 1508 01:11:41,875 --> 01:11:43,333 Love you, too. 1509 01:11:43,375 --> 01:11:45,250 It's gonna be extremely important for Garrett 1510 01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:47,542 and Shantell to both remain sober, 1511 01:11:47,625 --> 01:11:50,708 and not just remain sober, but, like, grow in their sobriety 1512 01:11:50,792 --> 01:11:53,500 if they want a shot. 1513 01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:55,625 I mean, I'm really excited, personally, 1514 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:58,750 to see what that looks like for them on the other side. 1515 01:11:58,875 --> 01:11:59,833 And they're off. 1516 01:11:59,875 --> 01:12:00,875 It's a blessing. 1517 01:12:00,958 --> 01:12:02,000 It is. 1518 01:12:02,083 --> 01:12:04,917 [tense music] 1519 01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:14,500 I do see myself having a future with Shantell. 1520 01:12:14,583 --> 01:12:17,167 I do want to spend the rest of my life with her. 1521 01:12:17,208 --> 01:12:22,833 I'd be happy if she were to have my kid in the future. 1522 01:12:22,917 --> 01:12:25,583 I do love her a lot. 1523 01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:39,667 We were also able to find treatment 1524 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:42,083 for the two friends that were living 1525 01:12:42,083 --> 01:12:44,375 with Garrett and Shantell. 1526 01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:46,833 Getting Adrian and Lane into treatment 1527 01:12:46,875 --> 01:12:50,875 is really important because if Garrett or Shantell relapse, 1528 01:12:50,875 --> 01:12:54,083 the first place they could go back to is the house. 1529 01:12:54,208 --> 01:12:56,458 And we want to avoid that. 1530 01:12:56,542 --> 01:12:59,875 [pensive music] 1531 01:13:26,542 --> 01:13:27,667 - How are ya? - Good. 1532 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:28,833 I'm Bill. 1533 01:13:28,958 --> 01:13:30,250 Ready to start your recovery? - Hi, Garrett. 1534 01:13:30,375 --> 01:13:31,125 Hi. 1535 01:13:31,208 --> 01:13:32,750 I'm at detox? 1536 01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:34,542 I don't really know how to say I'm feeling about it. 1537 01:13:34,625 --> 01:13:39,042 I'm kind of depressed right now, but I'm feeling all right, 1538 01:13:39,125 --> 01:13:40,292 I guess. 1539 01:13:40,375 --> 01:13:42,292 Feeling tired? 1540 01:13:42,375 --> 01:13:43,750 Yeah. 1541 01:13:43,833 --> 01:13:47,417 I'm depressed because I'm away from my girlfriend 1542 01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:50,750 when we spent every day together, every minute. 1543 01:13:50,833 --> 01:13:52,917 I mean, we did everything together. 1544 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,333 [chuckles] 1545 01:13:54,458 --> 01:13:56,708 This is, like, the first step in a big step. 1546 01:13:56,792 --> 01:14:00,458 It's just something that's a little hard to adjust to, 1547 01:14:00,542 --> 01:14:02,292 you know? 1548 01:14:02,375 --> 01:14:05,792 [tense music] 1549 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:15,250 This morning, everything was great, 1550 01:14:15,333 --> 01:14:17,292 but we had issues with two airlines, 1551 01:14:17,375 --> 01:14:20,750 and the delay resulted in her starting 1552 01:14:20,833 --> 01:14:23,542 to have withdrawal symptoms that we weren't planning on. 1553 01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:25,708 So we decided to abort the mission 1554 01:14:25,792 --> 01:14:30,458 and get her by ground to the detox center. 1555 01:14:30,542 --> 01:14:33,417 [pensive music] 1556 01:14:36,375 --> 01:14:38,000 So we finally made it to detox. 1557 01:14:38,083 --> 01:14:41,333 They're going to monitor Shantell, check her vitals, 1558 01:14:41,375 --> 01:14:45,500 and make sure she's OK, which is the most important thing. 1559 01:14:45,583 --> 01:14:49,333 And it was the best decision to get her off the plane. 1560 01:14:49,375 --> 01:14:50,167 Hi. 1561 01:14:50,250 --> 01:14:51,042 Sorry. 1562 01:14:51,167 --> 01:14:52,500 No, you're good. 1563 01:14:52,583 --> 01:14:56,083 It's really important to have a strategic, short, 1564 01:14:56,167 --> 01:14:58,333 and comfortable detox. 1565 01:14:58,417 --> 01:14:59,125 What's up? 1566 01:15:02,375 --> 01:15:03,125 [tense music] 1567 01:15:07,667 --> 01:15:09,667 So we finally made it to detox. 1568 01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:11,958 They're going to make sure she's OK. 1569 01:15:12,042 --> 01:15:14,833 And it was the best decision to get her off the plane. 1570 01:15:14,958 --> 01:15:15,708 What's up? 1571 01:15:19,125 --> 01:15:22,542 [tense music] 1572 01:15:47,875 --> 01:15:50,125 When we went to the airport, we missed our flight, 1573 01:15:50,208 --> 01:15:53,417 and then our next flight, my withdrawals were too bad. 1574 01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:55,167 So I had to get off the plane. 1575 01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:58,583 And then that's all I remember from there. 1576 01:15:58,667 --> 01:16:02,667 And then I woke up to some guy giving me an ultrasound, 1577 01:16:02,708 --> 01:16:09,208 letting me know that I'm six weeks and four days pregnant. 1578 01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:11,375 I just want this next 90 days to be over with so I 1579 01:16:11,458 --> 01:16:15,042 can see Garrett and move on. 1580 01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:21,875 Now that Garrett and Shantell are expecting a baby together-- 1581 01:16:21,875 --> 01:16:22,458 Hi. 1582 01:16:22,542 --> 01:16:23,708 Hi. 1583 01:16:23,833 --> 01:16:25,458 --their centers will help them prepare 1584 01:16:25,542 --> 01:16:27,708 for parenthood and sobriety. 1585 01:16:27,792 --> 01:16:30,458 All right, so we're gonna take you into the intake room. 1586 01:16:30,542 --> 01:16:32,750 We have 90 days to give her the tools 1587 01:16:32,833 --> 01:16:35,375 that she needs to get sober and to stay 1588 01:16:35,375 --> 01:16:39,583 sober and also be able to look at that relationship 1589 01:16:39,667 --> 01:16:41,333 with Garrett. 1590 01:16:41,375 --> 01:16:44,333 We really need to have that time to separate her from Garrett 1591 01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:46,083 to start giving her her autonomy, 1592 01:16:46,167 --> 01:16:48,833 to help her start finding her identity, 1593 01:16:48,917 --> 01:16:53,750 and also, who is she gonna be as a mother? 1594 01:16:53,833 --> 01:16:55,625 As long as she's motivated to get well, 1595 01:16:55,708 --> 01:16:59,917 we will give her the tools to be able to obtain 1596 01:17:00,042 --> 01:17:03,083 long-term sobriety, and she can do it. 1597 01:17:03,167 --> 01:17:06,083 [pensive music] 1598 01:17:19,375 --> 01:17:23,875 Lane's friends all went to treatment at the same time. 1599 01:17:23,958 --> 01:17:25,667 I think it's really good for them 1600 01:17:25,833 --> 01:17:28,083 to continue their friendship, as long as they're 1601 01:17:28,167 --> 01:17:30,250 all on the same path. 1602 01:17:30,333 --> 01:17:31,833 Lots of changes coming, I hear. 1603 01:17:31,917 --> 01:17:33,583 I was kind of shocked to hear that Garrett 1604 01:17:33,667 --> 01:17:34,833 and Shantell are having a baby. 1605 01:17:34,917 --> 01:17:36,333 I'm super excited for 'em. 1606 01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:37,583 I'm happy for 'em. 1607 01:17:37,667 --> 01:17:39,000 I'm excited to be an uncle. 1608 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,375 You know, I think the biggest transformation that Adrian has 1609 01:17:48,458 --> 01:17:51,667 had in our process is just recognizing his worth, 1610 01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:53,833 his value, and having some confidence 1611 01:17:53,917 --> 01:17:55,917 in his newfound sobriety. 1612 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,917 I heard that Shantell was actually pregnant. 1613 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,917 And Garrett, in his letter, wrote to me 1614 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,667 that he wants to make me the godfather-- 1615 01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:05,250 the godfather of the child. 1616 01:18:05,333 --> 01:18:09,208 So it's just been blessing after blessing. 1617 01:18:09,208 --> 01:18:12,708 [pensive music] 1618 01:18:24,833 --> 01:18:27,000 The journey has been real so far. 1619 01:18:27,042 --> 01:18:28,708 I haven't felt these emotions I've 1620 01:18:28,708 --> 01:18:30,833 been feeling in a long time. 1621 01:18:30,917 --> 01:18:33,250 My first few days, I was really lost. 1622 01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:35,792 And then finally, Mike Diamond gets on the phone, 1623 01:18:35,875 --> 01:18:38,458 and he's like, hey, man, you don't got to-- like, 1624 01:18:38,542 --> 01:18:39,833 I got Shantell on the phone. 1625 01:18:39,917 --> 01:18:41,667 And she's like, I'm in the hospital right now. 1626 01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:43,500 They woke me up to an ultrasound. 1627 01:18:43,583 --> 01:18:45,167 I'm seven weeks pregnant. 1628 01:18:45,208 --> 01:18:47,083 So, like, right then and there, I made the decision, 1629 01:18:47,167 --> 01:18:48,833 like, OK, like, we got to do this. 1630 01:18:48,875 --> 01:18:50,292 I'm in it to win it now. 1631 01:18:50,375 --> 01:18:52,167 Let's don't practice, huh, it for a little bit? 1632 01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:53,625 Cool. 1633 01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:55,958 Garrett has really become a leader here at Legacy. 1634 01:18:56,042 --> 01:18:58,000 The guys look up to him and see him 1635 01:18:58,083 --> 01:19:00,750 as someone who's been through some really tough stuff 1636 01:19:00,833 --> 01:19:04,417 and is-- is making really amazing progress. 1637 01:19:04,500 --> 01:19:08,083 He's also in the process of, you know, becoming a father, 1638 01:19:08,208 --> 01:19:10,875 and that was very challenging, too, to think about. 1639 01:19:10,958 --> 01:19:13,583 His father was also struggling with substance abuse, 1640 01:19:13,667 --> 01:19:16,167 and so he wants to be able to make sure that he's not gonna 1641 01:19:16,292 --> 01:19:18,917 have that as an element in his relationship 1642 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,333 with his son or daughter as he becomes a father. 1643 01:19:22,417 --> 01:19:23,333 Nice. 1644 01:19:23,375 --> 01:19:24,333 Hell, yeah. - Yeah. 1645 01:19:24,417 --> 01:19:26,083 Nice. 1646 01:19:26,167 --> 01:19:28,750 Being a dad is, like, huge motivation for me in my life 1647 01:19:28,833 --> 01:19:31,167 because I didn't have the best childhood growing up, 1648 01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:33,125 and, like, I want a good life for my kid. 1649 01:19:33,125 --> 01:19:34,958 I want to be a great father. 1650 01:19:35,042 --> 01:19:37,042 I want to be the father that, like, I never had, you know? 1651 01:19:37,125 --> 01:19:39,625 What are your plans after Legacy and going home? 1652 01:19:39,708 --> 01:19:40,792 I've got a kid on the way. 1653 01:19:40,875 --> 01:19:43,667 So after I find my sober community, 1654 01:19:43,792 --> 01:19:45,667 we're gonna start looking for jobs and stuff. 1655 01:19:45,708 --> 01:19:47,875 But we're gonna try to be in our own place 1656 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,208 before the baby is born. 1657 01:19:49,292 --> 01:19:50,875 Nice. 1658 01:19:50,875 --> 01:19:53,125 I know we're, like, two completely different people. 1659 01:19:53,208 --> 01:19:57,167 So, like, it might be hard, but I think as long as we don't 1660 01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:59,000 stray from each other's paths that we will 1661 01:19:59,083 --> 01:20:02,583 do well in recovering together. 1662 01:20:02,583 --> 01:20:04,500 Appreciate you, brother. 1663 01:20:04,583 --> 01:20:05,500 Love you, dude. 1664 01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:06,292 Love you, too, man. 1665 01:20:10,667 --> 01:20:14,125 [pensive music] 1666 01:20:18,125 --> 01:20:22,458 I've been sober for 95 days, and I feel really good. 1667 01:20:22,542 --> 01:20:24,167 I have self-confidence again. 1668 01:20:24,250 --> 01:20:26,792 And it feels nice to feel my feelings 1669 01:20:26,875 --> 01:20:28,958 and not be numbing them. 1670 01:20:29,042 --> 01:20:31,000 Since arriving, Shantell has really 1671 01:20:31,042 --> 01:20:35,042 embraced our 12-step immersion program at Infinite Recovery. 1672 01:20:35,125 --> 01:20:38,583 She's been given a lot of educational information 1673 01:20:38,708 --> 01:20:40,542 about motherhood and what to expect 1674 01:20:40,667 --> 01:20:44,333 with the birthing process and the immediate motherhood. 1675 01:20:44,417 --> 01:20:47,083 Going to treatment knowing I was pregnant was scary, 1676 01:20:47,167 --> 01:20:49,625 but finding out I was gonna be a mother definitely 1677 01:20:49,708 --> 01:20:51,167 motivated me a lot more. 1678 01:20:51,250 --> 01:20:53,458 So these are pictures from my sonogram. 1679 01:20:53,542 --> 01:20:54,917 That's her. 1680 01:20:55,042 --> 01:20:57,292 I'm 20 and 1/2 weeks. 1681 01:20:57,375 --> 01:21:00,292 Shantell has been visiting with medical teams 1682 01:21:00,375 --> 01:21:03,833 since arriving at treatment, and all indications 1683 01:21:03,917 --> 01:21:06,583 are she has a very healthy baby, and we're 1684 01:21:06,708 --> 01:21:10,833 anticipating no complications during the birth process. 1685 01:21:10,917 --> 01:21:12,792 I'm really excited that it's a girl. 1686 01:21:12,792 --> 01:21:13,583 I wanted a girl. 1687 01:21:13,667 --> 01:21:16,167 [chuckles] 1688 01:21:17,292 --> 01:21:19,708 Me and Garrett are still together. 1689 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:21,292 We would write letters to each other 1690 01:21:21,375 --> 01:21:23,000 so we'd get them like every other week, 1691 01:21:23,083 --> 01:21:26,083 and then we had like three Zoom calls with each other. 1692 01:21:26,167 --> 01:21:28,042 Learning to know who Garrett is sober, 1693 01:21:28,125 --> 01:21:29,833 I'm really excited for it, but I'm also kind 1694 01:21:29,917 --> 01:21:31,083 of nervous at the same time. 1695 01:21:31,167 --> 01:21:35,250 But I'm really excited for our future. 1696 01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:37,917 I do see myself spend the rest of my life with Garrett. 1697 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,583 I know we're both gonna be sober and be the best 1698 01:21:40,667 --> 01:21:42,667 parents that we can be. 1699 01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:46,125 [upbeat music] 1700 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,833 My plans are going to Portland to stay with my sister 1701 01:21:58,917 --> 01:22:02,000 and trying to find a job and just trying 1702 01:22:02,042 --> 01:22:03,542 to get ready to have a baby. 1703 01:22:03,542 --> 01:22:04,417 Hi. 1704 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:06,625 Hi, love. 1705 01:22:06,708 --> 01:22:09,250 I'm really excited to see Shantell. 1706 01:22:09,333 --> 01:22:11,042 Yeah, I'm really nervous. My hands are sweaty. 1707 01:22:11,125 --> 01:22:12,458 Freaking-- my armpits are sweaty. 1708 01:22:12,542 --> 01:22:13,917 I'm like, dude, no. 1709 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,500 [chuckles] 1710 01:22:15,625 --> 01:22:19,000 In person, the last time I saw Garrett was like a little 1711 01:22:19,042 --> 01:22:20,667 over three months ago. 1712 01:22:20,792 --> 01:22:23,250 I'm nervous because I've never actually been around him sober, 1713 01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:26,292 so we'll be getting to know each other all over again. 1714 01:22:28,125 --> 01:22:30,958 I'm very excited about my new life in Portland. 1715 01:22:31,042 --> 01:22:35,083 Really excited to prepare for our child on the way 1716 01:22:35,167 --> 01:22:39,125 and to jump into a new sober community around here. 1717 01:22:39,208 --> 01:22:42,000 Yeah, I'm really excited. 1718 01:22:42,083 --> 01:22:43,667 How's Shantell feeling right now? 1719 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:44,417 Is she nervous? 1720 01:22:45,667 --> 01:22:46,500 Maybe? 1721 01:22:46,583 --> 01:22:49,333 [chuckles] Oh, man. 1722 01:22:49,417 --> 01:22:52,333 [upbeat music] 1723 01:23:02,708 --> 01:23:03,583 Babe! 1724 01:23:03,708 --> 01:23:05,167 Hey! 1725 01:23:05,250 --> 01:23:06,000 Oh. 1726 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,667 I missed you so much. 1727 01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:08,917 I missed you. 1728 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,500 I got you some flowers. 1729 01:23:11,583 --> 01:23:13,042 Thank you. 1730 01:23:13,042 --> 01:23:16,000 It feels amazing to see Shantell after 90 days. 1731 01:23:16,042 --> 01:23:18,667 Yeah, being away from her was pretty hard for me. 1732 01:23:18,708 --> 01:23:21,333 But knowing, like, we're in a better place now 1733 01:23:21,458 --> 01:23:24,208 and that we're gonna be great parents doing this together, 1734 01:23:24,333 --> 01:23:26,500 and we're here to support one another, it just feels awesome. 1735 01:23:26,583 --> 01:23:29,500 I'm so glad to finally get to see you, though. 1736 01:23:29,583 --> 01:23:32,667 It's been such a freaking long journey. 1737 01:23:32,750 --> 01:23:34,167 Oh, gosh. 1738 01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:36,708 I'm really excited to get to know him sober. 1739 01:23:36,792 --> 01:23:38,000 It's going really good so far. 1740 01:23:38,042 --> 01:23:39,167 Yeah, how's the baby doing? 1741 01:23:39,250 --> 01:23:40,375 Good. 1742 01:23:40,458 --> 01:23:42,625 Oh, my gosh, look at your little baby bump. 1743 01:23:42,708 --> 01:23:46,250 I feel like we just need to keep pushing forward in our recovery 1744 01:23:46,333 --> 01:23:48,458 and, like, doing this together and not straying 1745 01:23:48,542 --> 01:23:49,667 from each other's paths. 1746 01:23:49,792 --> 01:23:50,500 First step. 1747 01:23:50,625 --> 01:23:51,375 Yeah. 1748 01:23:51,458 --> 01:23:52,000 [chuckles] 1749 01:23:52,083 --> 01:23:55,750 [upbeat music]