1 00:00:00,709 --> 00:00:01,959 - FEMALE NARRATOR: Rugged good looks 2 00:00:01,959 --> 00:00:04,918 made him leading man material. 3 00:00:04,918 --> 00:00:07,042 - He was in shows like "Gunsmoke" 4 00:00:07,042 --> 00:00:08,959 and did some actual western movies. 5 00:00:08,959 --> 00:00:10,626 He was kind of a big deal. 6 00:00:10,626 --> 00:00:12,959 - JAMES T: He'd purportedly dated Rita Hayworth 7 00:00:12,959 --> 00:00:14,042 for a little while. 8 00:00:14,042 --> 00:00:15,834 He was known for having known 9 00:00:15,834 --> 00:00:18,584 a lot of actors and famous people. 10 00:00:18,584 --> 00:00:22,083 - NARRATOR: Long after his Hollywood career faded to black, 11 00:00:22,083 --> 00:00:27,000 he played the role of hero to this small-town Nevada girl. 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,751 - He was more than 30 years older than her. 13 00:00:29,751 --> 00:00:34,042 - He came in and swooped up and--and you know saved her. 14 00:00:34,042 --> 00:00:37,083 - He was interested in wining and dining her. 15 00:00:37,083 --> 00:00:38,334 - NARRATOR: But her Hollywood hero 16 00:00:38,334 --> 00:00:41,626 is met with a sudden tragic ending. 17 00:00:41,626 --> 00:00:43,250 - [gunshot] 18 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:45,000 - There were four bullet wounds. 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,042 One to the chest, one to the chin 20 00:00:48,042 --> 00:00:50,375 and one in each eye. 21 00:00:50,375 --> 00:00:53,834 - It looked like an execution style murder. 22 00:00:53,834 --> 00:00:56,292 - She believed that he was involved with the mafia. 23 00:00:56,292 --> 00:00:58,334 - NARRATOR: When all leads run dry, 24 00:00:58,334 --> 00:01:00,918 police embark on a decades long search 25 00:01:00,918 --> 00:01:04,083 to uncover a plot far darker 26 00:01:04,083 --> 00:01:17,083 than anything conjured on the silver screen. 27 00:01:17,083 --> 00:01:19,959 - They actually start plotting 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,000 what they're going to do. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,209 - It snowballs into a plan for murder. 30 00:01:24,209 --> 00:01:27,292 - NARRATOR: When a family secret is finally revealed, 31 00:01:27,292 --> 00:01:40,000 the cold case breaks wide open. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,125 - PATRICK: He just didn't think 33 00:01:41,125 --> 00:01:43,792 that he deserved to get away with this crime. 34 00:01:43,792 --> 00:01:45,000 - [gunshot] 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,584 - In the end, justice is going to find you. 36 00:01:48,584 --> 00:01:53,042 - ♪ 37 00:01:53,042 --> 00:02:00,292 ♪♪ 38 00:02:00,292 --> 00:02:03,292 - NARRATOR: September 30, 1985. 39 00:02:03,292 --> 00:02:06,000 It's just after midnight when a call comes 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,042 into the Yuma, Arizona, Police Department. 41 00:02:09,042 --> 00:02:12,459 The caller is local resident, Phil Carey, 42 00:02:12,459 --> 00:02:15,501 who's just left the home of his neighbor and friend, 43 00:02:15,501 --> 00:02:20,083 former Hollywood star, Jimmie Ferrara. 44 00:02:20,083 --> 00:02:22,083 - Phil made a call to 911 45 00:02:22,083 --> 00:02:24,834 and described the scene that he'd found. 46 00:02:24,834 --> 00:02:27,834 He found Jimmie Ferrara, in his house. 47 00:02:27,834 --> 00:02:29,876 Blood everywhere, blood under his body. 48 00:02:29,876 --> 00:02:31,584 He was very upset, of course. 49 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:33,876 - [police sirens] 50 00:02:33,876 --> 00:02:34,959 - PATRICK: So they send out 51 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:36,876 investigators and police to the home, 52 00:02:36,876 --> 00:02:38,125 and when they get there, 53 00:02:38,125 --> 00:02:41,959 they find that the back door is ajar. 54 00:02:41,959 --> 00:02:44,584 They go inside... 55 00:02:44,584 --> 00:02:49,167 and they find Jimmie in the middle of the floor. 56 00:02:49,167 --> 00:02:52,292 - He's in a hallway with like part of his body 57 00:02:52,292 --> 00:02:56,042 going into like a kitchen area and then a living room area. 58 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:57,876 - PATRICK: They see a lot of blood 59 00:02:57,876 --> 00:03:00,250 around his chest and head area. 60 00:03:00,250 --> 00:03:02,876 Something is horribly wrong. 61 00:03:02,876 --> 00:03:05,209 - NARRATOR: 65-year-old Jimmie Ferrara 62 00:03:05,209 --> 00:03:09,876 is pronounced dead at the scene. 63 00:03:09,876 --> 00:03:12,751 Based on the type of injuries, there is no question 64 00:03:12,751 --> 00:03:15,584 as to how Jimmie died. 65 00:03:15,584 --> 00:03:18,959 - LORI: We could tell that he had been shot multiple times. 66 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:20,250 It appears that somebody just came up 67 00:03:20,250 --> 00:03:22,459 and boom, boom, boom right into the head. 68 00:03:22,459 --> 00:03:24,250 It was done with anger. 69 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:26,167 - JAMES T: There were four bullet wounds. 70 00:03:26,167 --> 00:03:28,959 One to the chest, one to the chin, 71 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:33,000 and one in each eye. 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,626 - NARRATOR: Based on the crime scene, 73 00:03:34,626 --> 00:03:38,250 investigators are certain that this was anything but, 74 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:40,501 a random act 75 00:03:40,501 --> 00:03:42,876 - JAMES T: There was no signs of forced entry. 76 00:03:42,876 --> 00:03:45,417 It didn't seem as if burglary was a motive 77 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:47,918 because it didn't seem like anything was missing. 78 00:03:47,918 --> 00:03:51,459 Jimmie's body still had his wallet on it. 79 00:03:51,459 --> 00:03:53,834 He still had jewelry on him. 80 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:55,501 - LORI: There were .22 caliber casings 81 00:03:55,501 --> 00:03:56,834 that were on the floor. 82 00:03:56,834 --> 00:03:59,000 They actually found four of 'em, three in the beginning 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,417 and then once they moved the body 84 00:04:00,417 --> 00:04:03,959 they found the fourth one laying underneath. 85 00:04:03,959 --> 00:04:05,334 - ANDREW: Beyond that, 86 00:04:05,334 --> 00:04:07,792 they were not able to glean much from the crime scene. 87 00:04:07,792 --> 00:04:11,709 There was very little of evidentiary value 88 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:14,334 that could lead them to a suspect. 89 00:04:14,334 --> 00:04:16,626 - LORI: We don't have any suspects to go on right now 90 00:04:16,626 --> 00:04:18,834 so we're going to have to use investigative skills 91 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:25,334 to go out and try to figure out who did this. 92 00:04:25,334 --> 00:04:28,083 - NARRATOR: Born in New York in 1920, 93 00:04:28,083 --> 00:04:31,125 Jimmie Ferrara was a first generation American 94 00:04:31,125 --> 00:04:33,459 whose parents came to the United States 95 00:04:33,459 --> 00:04:35,751 in search of a better life. 96 00:04:35,751 --> 00:04:39,876 - Jimmie's parents came over from Sicily in 1910. 97 00:04:39,876 --> 00:04:41,792 They settled in New York. 98 00:04:41,792 --> 00:04:45,834 The Italian culture is pretty important to our family. 99 00:04:45,834 --> 00:04:47,459 - NARRATOR: After Jimmie was born, 100 00:04:47,459 --> 00:04:52,167 the Ferrara's traded the east coast for the west coast. 101 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:54,334 - When the Ferraras moved to Sacramento, 102 00:04:54,334 --> 00:04:56,334 they were definitely blue collar. 103 00:04:56,334 --> 00:04:58,876 My grandfather worked for Southern Pacific Railroad. 104 00:04:58,876 --> 00:05:00,751 My grandmother stayed home. 105 00:05:00,751 --> 00:05:06,125 Having eight children, I'm sure she was quite busy. 106 00:05:06,125 --> 00:05:08,334 - NARRATOR: As the fifth of eight kids, 107 00:05:08,334 --> 00:05:11,751 Jimmie was determined to make a name for himself, 108 00:05:11,751 --> 00:05:15,876 with his eyes set on fame and adventure. 109 00:05:15,876 --> 00:05:17,501 - Jimmie did do a stint 110 00:05:17,501 --> 00:05:19,876 in, uh, the coast guard for a couple of years. 111 00:05:19,876 --> 00:05:23,375 Then he wound up getting into acting in like the 1940s. 112 00:05:23,375 --> 00:05:25,083 And he was in shows like "Gunsmoke" 113 00:05:25,083 --> 00:05:27,083 and then he got into some western movies 114 00:05:27,083 --> 00:05:29,834 and kind of a big deal back then. 115 00:05:29,834 --> 00:05:34,501 - I saw short skits of "Gunsmoke," 116 00:05:34,501 --> 00:05:36,209 and I thought they were very good. 117 00:05:36,209 --> 00:05:40,209 He was very proud of his things he was in. 118 00:05:40,209 --> 00:05:41,125 - He had purportedly 119 00:05:41,125 --> 00:05:43,709 dated Rita Hayworth for a little while. 120 00:05:43,709 --> 00:05:45,125 He was known for having known 121 00:05:45,125 --> 00:05:47,417 a lot of actors and famous people. 122 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:49,709 - ♪ 123 00:05:49,709 --> 00:05:52,792 - NARRATOR: Behind the scenes, Jimmie's personal life 124 00:05:52,792 --> 00:05:56,125 was as exciting as his budding acting career, 125 00:05:56,125 --> 00:06:00,125 with a series of whirlwind romances. 126 00:06:00,125 --> 00:06:02,042 - Jimmie's first wedding was in 1942, 127 00:06:02,042 --> 00:06:03,709 and he married an actress and dancer 128 00:06:03,709 --> 00:06:05,834 by the name of Kathleen Cartmill. 129 00:06:05,834 --> 00:06:07,751 That only lasted a couple of years 130 00:06:07,751 --> 00:06:09,667 and then he married Carol Gallagher, 131 00:06:09,667 --> 00:06:11,459 who was also an actress. 132 00:06:11,459 --> 00:06:13,042 That lasted a few years. 133 00:06:13,042 --> 00:06:15,751 After that, he married Margaret Bartlett. 134 00:06:15,751 --> 00:06:17,751 That only lasted one year. 135 00:06:17,751 --> 00:06:21,125 Then he married a lady by the name of Leona. 136 00:06:21,125 --> 00:06:23,042 - NARRATOR: By the early 1960s, 137 00:06:23,042 --> 00:06:25,667 Jimmie's acting career was fading. 138 00:06:25,667 --> 00:06:28,083 He and Leona looked toward the future 139 00:06:28,083 --> 00:06:31,584 and invested the money he had earned in Hollywood. 140 00:06:31,584 --> 00:06:33,792 - PATRICK: He tries his hand at owning ranches. 141 00:06:33,792 --> 00:06:37,125 He has real estate, owns a--a bar. 142 00:06:37,125 --> 00:06:39,709 Uh, he starts making his money in other ways, 143 00:06:39,709 --> 00:06:41,459 other than acting. 144 00:06:41,459 --> 00:06:45,959 And he splits his time between Los Angeles and Yuma, Arizona. 145 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:49,042 - NARRATOR: After 19 years of marriage and no children, 146 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:55,167 Jimmie and Leona divorced in 1976. 147 00:06:55,167 --> 00:06:56,918 - PATRICK: So, Jimmie is a single man at this time 148 00:06:56,918 --> 00:06:59,751 and he decides to take a trip to Reno, Nevada. 149 00:06:59,751 --> 00:07:02,000 And there at a motel, 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,167 he meets a woman by the name of Delma, 151 00:07:04,167 --> 00:07:06,667 who is about 30 years his junior. 152 00:07:06,667 --> 00:07:10,667 And they really hit it off. 153 00:07:10,667 --> 00:07:13,626 - NARRATOR: Born in 1952, Delma was raised 154 00:07:13,626 --> 00:07:17,459 in the rural town of Hawthorne, Nevada. 155 00:07:17,459 --> 00:07:19,626 In her early 20s, Delma married 156 00:07:19,626 --> 00:07:24,626 and became an instant mother to her husband's three sons. 157 00:07:24,626 --> 00:07:26,584 - I was about three or four years old. 158 00:07:26,584 --> 00:07:29,584 And, uh, I took to her, 159 00:07:29,584 --> 00:07:33,501 you know, right off the bat. 160 00:07:33,501 --> 00:07:36,751 - NARRATOR: Delma focused on caring for her stepsons. 161 00:07:36,751 --> 00:07:41,501 But behind closed doors, her marriage was unbearable. 162 00:07:41,501 --> 00:07:43,584 - DEAN: There was more bad times than happy times 163 00:07:43,584 --> 00:07:44,667 with her and my father. 164 00:07:44,667 --> 00:07:45,918 My father was, uh, 165 00:07:45,918 --> 00:07:49,459 verbally abusive and physically abusive. 166 00:07:49,459 --> 00:07:53,250 She told me she was leaving. She couldn't take it anymore. 167 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:54,876 And that she loved me. 168 00:07:54,876 --> 00:07:59,375 And, uh, she was sorry that she had to leave. 169 00:07:59,375 --> 00:08:01,834 - NARRATOR: Looking for a new lease on life, 170 00:08:01,834 --> 00:08:04,542 25-year-old Delma was living in Reno 171 00:08:04,542 --> 00:08:10,709 when she met 57-year-old Jimmie Ferrara in 1977. 172 00:08:10,709 --> 00:08:12,918 Despite the 30-year age difference, 173 00:08:12,918 --> 00:08:15,959 she was instantly attracted to him. 174 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:17,167 - PATRICK: Jimmie still had 175 00:08:17,167 --> 00:08:18,959 his studio good looks at the time. 176 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:21,125 He definitely acted like he had a lot of money. 177 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:24,083 He loved flashing big bills of cash around 178 00:08:24,083 --> 00:08:26,918 and loved to be the life of the party. 179 00:08:26,918 --> 00:08:28,542 - JAMES T: Delma was drawn to that 180 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:29,501 and wanted to be part of that. 181 00:08:29,501 --> 00:08:30,709 When Jimmie came along, 182 00:08:30,709 --> 00:08:33,584 she saw this flashy confident man 183 00:08:33,584 --> 00:08:37,292 that could get her away from her bad situation. 184 00:08:37,292 --> 00:08:39,417 - LORI: She was really struggling for money. 185 00:08:39,417 --> 00:08:40,876 Jimmie kind of came in 186 00:08:40,876 --> 00:08:42,751 and swooped up, and saved her. 187 00:08:42,751 --> 00:08:44,876 - Jimmie was more than 30 years older than her, 188 00:08:44,876 --> 00:08:47,334 at this point in his life, he was quite wealthy. 189 00:08:47,334 --> 00:08:48,667 None of the men 190 00:08:48,667 --> 00:08:49,876 that she had dated up to that point, 191 00:08:49,876 --> 00:08:55,792 had really offered her this stability that she needed. 192 00:08:55,792 --> 00:08:57,459 - NARRATOR: Jimmie convinced Delma 193 00:08:57,459 --> 00:08:59,083 to return to Yuma with him 194 00:08:59,083 --> 00:09:01,375 where they dated for several years 195 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:06,751 and ultimately tied the knot in October of 1981. 196 00:09:06,751 --> 00:09:08,584 - Jimmie and Delma decide to set up shop 197 00:09:08,584 --> 00:09:09,876 in Yuma, Arizona. 198 00:09:09,876 --> 00:09:12,083 They move into a nice suburban neighborhood, 199 00:09:12,083 --> 00:09:14,667 Jimmie was interested in wining and dining her. 200 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:19,292 Things seem to be going great. 201 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:20,542 But after a few years 202 00:09:20,542 --> 00:09:22,459 of Jimmie and Delma being together, 203 00:09:22,459 --> 00:09:23,959 their relationship started to sour. 204 00:09:23,959 --> 00:09:27,501 They both had incredibly fiery personalities. 205 00:09:27,501 --> 00:09:29,042 They had a lot of fights. 206 00:09:29,042 --> 00:09:31,918 They definitely were at each other's throats. 207 00:09:31,918 --> 00:09:34,292 - NARRATOR: In 1984, Jimmie and Delma 208 00:09:34,292 --> 00:09:39,000 decided they needed to put a little distance between them. 209 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,751 - When Jimmie and Delma separated, 210 00:09:40,751 --> 00:09:45,417 Delma had gone back to Nevada for, you know, several months. 211 00:09:45,417 --> 00:09:47,125 - Absence makes the heart grow fonder. 212 00:09:47,125 --> 00:09:48,375 The two were separated, 213 00:09:48,375 --> 00:09:52,626 but they got back together in 1985. 214 00:09:52,626 --> 00:09:55,000 - NARRATOR: To celebrate their reprised role 215 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,584 as a happy couple, 216 00:09:56,584 --> 00:10:00,918 Jimmie and Delma planned a romantic road trip. 217 00:10:00,918 --> 00:10:05,209 - He was preparing the RV to go on this trip with her. 218 00:10:05,209 --> 00:10:08,209 It was a second honeymoon. 219 00:10:08,209 --> 00:10:11,542 - So Delma and Jimmie had taken a couple month trip. 220 00:10:11,542 --> 00:10:14,501 They were actually going to go up to Nevada, 221 00:10:14,501 --> 00:10:18,501 and then kind of up to Oregon, and go many different places. 222 00:10:18,501 --> 00:10:20,542 - JAMES T: This was a chance for them 223 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:23,000 to try to mend their relationship, 224 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,626 to get things better from where they had been. 225 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,501 - NARRATOR: The couple returned to Yuma 226 00:10:28,501 --> 00:10:31,584 after a two-month journey on September 28, 227 00:10:31,584 --> 00:10:36,542 with their love reignited. 228 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:39,918 But after being home for less than 48 hours, 229 00:10:39,918 --> 00:10:43,083 Jimmie now lies dead in a pool of blood 230 00:10:43,083 --> 00:10:46,459 inside the couple's home. 231 00:10:46,459 --> 00:10:49,125 - Detectives first looked at Jimmie Ferrara's body 232 00:10:49,125 --> 00:10:50,125 in the middle of the living room, 233 00:10:50,125 --> 00:10:51,334 and they could tell 234 00:10:51,334 --> 00:10:52,834 just from the blood that was pooling 235 00:10:52,834 --> 00:10:56,959 that this crime had happened pretty recently. 236 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:59,375 - LORI: We learned that Jimmie was married. 237 00:10:59,375 --> 00:11:00,709 So, the main thing we wanted to do 238 00:11:00,709 --> 00:11:08,292 was we need to find his wife. 239 00:11:08,292 --> 00:11:09,459 - NARRATOR: Coming up: 240 00:11:09,459 --> 00:11:13,125 Investigators finally track down Jimmie's wife, 241 00:11:13,125 --> 00:11:15,876 and she drops a bombshell. 242 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:19,083 - She was asked, "Did you kill your husband?" 243 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,667 - She had actually thought about killing Jimmie. 244 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,334 - NARRATOR: But are they on the wrong path? 245 00:11:25,334 --> 00:11:28,125 - They thought maybe it was a jealousy thing 246 00:11:28,125 --> 00:11:31,459 or, uh, a love triangle. 247 00:11:31,459 --> 00:11:33,417 - LORI: We know that she visited Jimmie, 248 00:11:33,417 --> 00:11:36,501 and she was potentially the last person 249 00:11:36,501 --> 00:11:41,042 to actually see Jimmie alive. 250 00:11:41,042 --> 00:11:41,042 - ♪ 251 00:11:41,042 --> 00:11:47,584 - FEMALE NARRATOR: Rugged good looks 252 00:11:47,584 --> 00:11:52,334 - ♪ 253 00:11:52,334 --> 00:11:55,250 - NARRATOR: On September 30, 1985, 254 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:59,292 detectives in Yuma, Arizona, are investigating the murder 255 00:11:59,292 --> 00:12:01,375 of former Hollywood star, 256 00:12:01,375 --> 00:12:04,918 65-year-old, Jimmie Ferrara. 257 00:12:04,918 --> 00:12:08,292 - They found Jimmie Ferrara's body 258 00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:11,083 lying in the hallway of his home, 259 00:12:11,083 --> 00:12:13,000 and he'd been shot 260 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,626 several times in the head and upper torso. 261 00:12:19,626 --> 00:12:21,501 - NARRATOR: Outside, investigators get 262 00:12:21,501 --> 00:12:24,292 more information from Phil Carey, 263 00:12:24,292 --> 00:12:29,292 the neighbor who called 911 after finding Jimmie's body. 264 00:12:29,292 --> 00:12:32,250 - JAMES T: Phil told the police that Delma and Jimmie 265 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:34,918 had just gotten back from a long RV trip. 266 00:12:34,918 --> 00:12:38,334 And he had stopped by that very morning to say hi 267 00:12:38,334 --> 00:12:41,501 and see if maybe he could watch some TV with Jimmie. 268 00:12:41,501 --> 00:12:42,709 - LORI: Phil said, it just kind of 269 00:12:42,709 --> 00:12:45,584 seemed like uh, a normal day. 270 00:12:45,584 --> 00:12:48,667 Later on, at approximately 11:30 p.m., 271 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:52,501 Phil receives a phone call from Delma. 272 00:12:52,501 --> 00:12:56,375 Delma is not at home. She is up at a relative's house. 273 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,709 She's worried about Jimmie, because apparently, 274 00:12:58,709 --> 00:13:02,417 he had like some chest pains or wasn't feeling good that day. 275 00:13:02,417 --> 00:13:04,375 She has called multiple times, 276 00:13:04,375 --> 00:13:05,375 she's getting the answering machine, 277 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:07,167 she's not getting through. 278 00:13:07,167 --> 00:13:09,542 So she calls Phil, asking if he could go over 279 00:13:09,542 --> 00:13:11,959 and check on Jimmie. 280 00:13:11,959 --> 00:13:14,334 And that's when he found Jimmie in the house, 281 00:13:14,334 --> 00:13:16,167 then called the police. 282 00:13:16,167 --> 00:13:18,834 - ♪ 283 00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:20,501 - NARRATOR: Phil tells investigators 284 00:13:20,501 --> 00:13:24,209 that 33-year-old Delma is just a couple of miles away 285 00:13:24,209 --> 00:13:29,459 at the home of Jimmie's niece, Pam Denman. 286 00:13:29,459 --> 00:13:31,667 - Investigator's arrive at Pamela Denman's house 287 00:13:31,667 --> 00:13:34,375 and they find Delma, and it is there 288 00:13:34,375 --> 00:13:37,459 that she asks them, "Is Jimmie okay?" 289 00:13:37,459 --> 00:13:39,709 And the investigators had to deliver the terrible news 290 00:13:39,709 --> 00:13:42,876 that her husband had been killed. 291 00:13:42,876 --> 00:13:46,292 - She, um, was pretty hysterical at-- 292 00:13:46,292 --> 00:13:52,000 learning from the officers that Jimmie had passed away. 293 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,542 - NARRATOR: When Delma begins to calm down, 294 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:58,959 detectives ask her about the hours before the murder. 295 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:04,334 - Jimmie and Delma just returned to Yuma 296 00:14:04,334 --> 00:14:09,125 after a two-month vacation in Nevada. 297 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:10,626 - The day after they got back, 298 00:14:10,626 --> 00:14:13,459 she said Phil had come over to watch the football game 299 00:14:13,459 --> 00:14:18,542 and then a woman by the name of Sally Cook came over. 300 00:14:18,542 --> 00:14:21,334 - NARRATOR: Delma admits she was less than thrilled 301 00:14:21,334 --> 00:14:25,167 to see 19-year-old Sally. 302 00:14:25,167 --> 00:14:28,167 - LORI: She's a younger lady, younger than Delma. 303 00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:30,459 Somebody that Jimmie's kind of taken under his wing 304 00:14:30,459 --> 00:14:33,459 to like acting classes 305 00:14:33,459 --> 00:14:35,876 and just to help out in--in general. 306 00:14:35,876 --> 00:14:37,292 Um, Sally is also 307 00:14:37,292 --> 00:14:40,792 thought to have had an affair with Jimmie. 308 00:14:40,792 --> 00:14:44,000 - NARRATOR: According to Delma, sally's behavior that morning 309 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,626 only heightened her suspicions that there was perhaps more 310 00:14:47,626 --> 00:14:50,834 to Jimmie and Sally's friendship. 311 00:14:50,834 --> 00:14:53,334 - JAMES T: Sally asked where Jimmie was, 312 00:14:53,334 --> 00:14:56,167 Delma told her that he was taking a shower, 313 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:58,083 so she goes back into the bedroom 314 00:14:58,083 --> 00:15:01,918 while he's taking a shower. Delma doesn't go in there. 315 00:15:01,918 --> 00:15:04,542 - Delma said that Jimmie had multiple girlfriends 316 00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:06,375 throughout the time that they'd been together. 317 00:15:06,375 --> 00:15:09,334 So she was kind of used to it. 318 00:15:09,334 --> 00:15:11,584 - NARRATOR: Delma tried to shrug it off 319 00:15:11,584 --> 00:15:13,834 but admits that, later that afternoon, 320 00:15:13,834 --> 00:15:17,209 she and Jimmie got into an argument. 321 00:15:17,209 --> 00:15:18,667 - JAMES T: Delma told the police 322 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:21,334 after the fight with Jimmie, she left the house. 323 00:15:21,334 --> 00:15:25,042 She wanted to get away from him and clear her head. 324 00:15:25,042 --> 00:15:27,834 So, she started walking around the neighborhood. 325 00:15:27,834 --> 00:15:29,375 - PATRICK: At one point, she circled back around 326 00:15:29,375 --> 00:15:33,083 towards the home and saw Sally Cook's car 327 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:38,209 outside of the home and Jimmie's car gone. 328 00:15:38,209 --> 00:15:40,834 - NARRATOR: Delma admits the sight of Sally's car 329 00:15:40,834 --> 00:15:44,542 still being at the house made her more angry. 330 00:15:44,542 --> 00:15:46,167 - She decides that she's not 331 00:15:46,167 --> 00:15:47,667 going to go back to the home yet. 332 00:15:47,667 --> 00:15:49,375 She didn't want to enter that situation. 333 00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:51,292 And so she turns around, does some more walking 334 00:15:51,292 --> 00:15:53,042 and ultimately ends up 335 00:15:53,042 --> 00:15:56,250 at her niece Pamela Denman's house. 336 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:58,042 - NARRATOR: The story forces detectives 337 00:15:58,042 --> 00:16:01,334 to ask the obvious question. 338 00:16:01,334 --> 00:16:03,876 - We did ask Delma if she killed her husband, 339 00:16:03,876 --> 00:16:04,834 she said no. 340 00:16:04,834 --> 00:16:07,167 She was also asked, you know, did she know 341 00:16:07,167 --> 00:16:08,667 who might want to kill her husband? 342 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:13,626 Again, she said she didn't know. 343 00:16:13,626 --> 00:16:15,459 - NARRATOR: After speaking with Delma, 344 00:16:15,459 --> 00:16:17,292 detectives question neighbors 345 00:16:17,292 --> 00:16:21,083 to see if her version of events checks out. 346 00:16:21,083 --> 00:16:23,751 - LORI: Delma was out walking through the neighborhood 347 00:16:23,751 --> 00:16:26,959 at that specific time that she said she was. 348 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:28,125 Several people had seen her. 349 00:16:28,125 --> 00:16:31,584 She was actually up at, uh, Pam's house, 350 00:16:31,584 --> 00:16:33,375 during the time that you know, that we think 351 00:16:33,375 --> 00:16:36,167 that the homicide took place. 352 00:16:36,167 --> 00:16:37,584 - NARRATOR: Neighbors also back up 353 00:16:37,584 --> 00:16:39,792 Delma's allegation that Sally Cook 354 00:16:39,792 --> 00:16:43,292 returned to the Ferrara home that evening. 355 00:16:43,292 --> 00:16:44,959 - One of the neighbors had said 356 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:47,209 that they had seen Jimmie driving his car up 357 00:16:47,209 --> 00:16:49,000 with another woman in a passenger seat 358 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,000 that was definitely not Delma. 359 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 - NARRATOR: But before they can move on to other leads, 360 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,125 investigators bring Delma down to the police station 361 00:17:00,125 --> 00:17:03,417 to see if there are any cracks in her story. 362 00:17:03,417 --> 00:17:05,626 - They asked Delma if she would take 363 00:17:05,626 --> 00:17:08,918 a polygraph test, to which she said she would. 364 00:17:08,918 --> 00:17:12,042 - JAMES T: She was asked, "Did you kill your husband?" 365 00:17:12,042 --> 00:17:13,501 She said no, 366 00:17:13,501 --> 00:17:16,834 and the polygraph indicated that she was being truthful. 367 00:17:16,834 --> 00:17:17,876 When she was asked, 368 00:17:17,876 --> 00:17:22,125 "Did you plan or conspire to kill your husband?" 369 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:24,250 She also said no. 370 00:17:24,250 --> 00:17:28,959 But the findings came back inconclusive. 371 00:17:28,959 --> 00:17:30,209 - NARRATOR: Delma offers up 372 00:17:30,209 --> 00:17:34,125 a damning explanation for the findings. 373 00:17:34,125 --> 00:17:35,918 - LORI: Delma kind of opened up about 374 00:17:35,918 --> 00:17:40,334 Jimmie being domineering, uh, very controlling, 375 00:17:40,334 --> 00:17:43,584 very much a womanizer. 376 00:17:43,584 --> 00:17:48,959 Delma said she had actually thought about killing Jimmie. 377 00:17:48,959 --> 00:17:52,751 Maybe that is why she may have sparked, uh, 378 00:17:52,751 --> 00:17:56,334 deception on that part of the polygraph. 379 00:17:56,334 --> 00:17:58,959 - JAMES T: There seemed to be at least a motive there. 380 00:17:58,959 --> 00:18:02,542 And they thought maybe she was connected in some way. 381 00:18:02,542 --> 00:18:05,334 They just couldn't figure out exactly how. 382 00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:07,125 - NARRATOR: Following the polygraph, 383 00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:10,375 detectives press Delma on any other information 384 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,626 that could be useful. 385 00:18:12,626 --> 00:18:14,542 Delma tells them that her husband 386 00:18:14,542 --> 00:18:18,584 had a glamorous but complicated past. 387 00:18:18,584 --> 00:18:20,501 - Delma did say that, at one point, 388 00:18:20,501 --> 00:18:25,918 she believed that he was involved with the mafia. 389 00:18:25,918 --> 00:18:26,959 - NARRATOR: To investigators, 390 00:18:26,959 --> 00:18:29,792 Delma's reasoning seems plausible, 391 00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:33,459 but they make one more request before releasing her. 392 00:18:33,459 --> 00:18:35,250 - We did ask if we could take her clothes 393 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:37,876 for evidence, um, there was a spot or two 394 00:18:37,876 --> 00:18:41,584 that may have resembled, could have been possibly blood. 395 00:18:41,584 --> 00:18:44,584 So, she did agree to--to give us 396 00:18:44,584 --> 00:18:46,459 the evidentiary clothing off of her 397 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:51,375 and that was put into evidence and then later tested. 398 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:52,751 - NARRATOR: While awaiting the results 399 00:18:52,751 --> 00:18:55,918 of the gunshot residue and blood trace tests, 400 00:18:55,918 --> 00:18:58,876 investigator's next move is to find anyone 401 00:18:58,876 --> 00:19:01,792 who might know about Jimmie's personal history 402 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:03,834 beyond movie sets. 403 00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:07,501 They head to the home of his niece, Pam Denman. 404 00:19:07,501 --> 00:19:09,834 - This is where Delma had gone 405 00:19:09,834 --> 00:19:11,501 the night of the murder. 406 00:19:11,501 --> 00:19:15,292 So, we really needed to get, uh, her side of the story. 407 00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:17,209 - They talked to Pamela Denman, 408 00:19:17,209 --> 00:19:19,292 and she does corroborate Delma's alibis. 409 00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:22,501 She corroborates what time she arrived at the home 410 00:19:22,501 --> 00:19:27,000 and that Delma had been there the entire time. 411 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,834 - NARRATOR: Pam doesn't know about any mob ties, 412 00:19:29,834 --> 00:19:32,667 but she does tell detectives that her uncle had 413 00:19:32,667 --> 00:19:35,959 a definite weak spot when it came to women. 414 00:19:35,959 --> 00:19:39,042 Allegedly, including his neighbor's wife, 415 00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:41,751 Mrs. Carey. 416 00:19:41,751 --> 00:19:43,876 - Apparently, Jimmie Ferrara 417 00:19:43,876 --> 00:19:48,417 forced a kiss on his neighbor, Noreen Carey. 418 00:19:48,417 --> 00:19:53,209 Phil Carey, of course, was the man who called 911. 419 00:19:53,209 --> 00:19:54,792 - NARRATOR: Coming up: 420 00:19:54,792 --> 00:19:58,125 Did Jimmie put the moves on the wrong woman? 421 00:19:58,125 --> 00:19:59,667 - We asked Pamela, you know, 422 00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:02,334 "What would Phil think about if he found out 423 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:05,334 that Jimmie, had tried to kiss Noreen?" 424 00:20:05,334 --> 00:20:08,250 And Pam said that he'd be furious. 425 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:10,000 - NARRATOR: And a close friend of Jimmie's 426 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,375 casts suspicion on herself. 427 00:20:13,375 --> 00:20:14,876 - If you have nothing to hide, 428 00:20:14,876 --> 00:20:20,209 why will you not take a polygraph? 429 00:20:20,209 --> 00:20:26,959 - ♪ 430 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:31,250 - ♪ 431 00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:33,501 - NARRATOR: Investigators in Yuma, Arizona, 432 00:20:33,501 --> 00:20:36,000 have just learned that Phil Carey, 433 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,250 the man who called 911, 434 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:40,292 might have had a motive to kill 435 00:20:40,292 --> 00:20:43,542 65-year-old Jimmie Ferrara. 436 00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:46,959 - We asked Pamela, you know, "What would Phil think about 437 00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:50,334 if he found out that Jimmie had tried to kiss Noreen?" 438 00:20:50,334 --> 00:20:54,751 And Pam said that he'd be furious. 439 00:20:54,751 --> 00:20:57,542 - JAMES T: Pamela also told the police that Phil Carey 440 00:20:57,542 --> 00:21:00,542 had dealings with, uh, Jimmie. 441 00:21:00,542 --> 00:21:03,834 In fact, he had recently borrowed $500 from Jimmie. 442 00:21:03,834 --> 00:21:08,459 - She did know that Jimmie had lent Phil $500. 443 00:21:08,459 --> 00:21:11,459 But she said that he hadn't paid Jimmie back. 444 00:21:11,459 --> 00:21:14,167 - Now Pam says to investigators 445 00:21:14,167 --> 00:21:15,501 that Jimmie was not the kind of guy 446 00:21:15,501 --> 00:21:22,751 you wanted to borrow money from, because he never forgave a debt. 447 00:21:22,751 --> 00:21:23,709 - NARRATOR: With Jimmie Ferrara 448 00:21:23,709 --> 00:21:27,000 proving to be a man of many faces, 449 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,209 investigators bring in Phil Carey 450 00:21:29,209 --> 00:21:31,751 for a second interview. 451 00:21:31,751 --> 00:21:35,751 Phil insists he took care of the outstanding loan. 452 00:21:35,751 --> 00:21:39,375 - He tells him well, actually, that debt was cleared 453 00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:41,876 because his wife Noreen, had been cleaning Jimmie's house 454 00:21:41,876 --> 00:21:44,584 while he and Delma, were on vacation. 455 00:21:44,584 --> 00:21:48,209 - NARRATOR: As far as Jimmie's advances towards Phil's wife, 456 00:21:48,209 --> 00:21:50,834 Phil claims he was unaware. 457 00:21:50,834 --> 00:21:53,417 - PATRICK: They ask him about this forced kiss 458 00:21:53,417 --> 00:21:56,501 that Jimmie put on Phil's wife, Noreen. 459 00:21:56,501 --> 00:21:58,042 Well, Phil didn't know anything about it. 460 00:21:58,042 --> 00:22:00,209 He tells investigators that, uh, 461 00:22:00,209 --> 00:22:01,626 that wouldn't have been motive for him 462 00:22:01,626 --> 00:22:03,876 to want to hurt Jimmie because he didn't know. 463 00:22:03,876 --> 00:22:05,000 - JAMES T: At the end of his interview, 464 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,834 Phil agrees to take a polygraph, and he is found to be truthful. 465 00:22:11,834 --> 00:22:14,667 - NARRATOR: With Phil Carey taken off the suspect's list, 466 00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:18,250 investigators next focus on Jimmie's friend, 467 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:20,667 19-year-old Sally Cook. 468 00:22:20,667 --> 00:22:23,792 - We know that Sally had come over, 469 00:22:23,792 --> 00:22:27,459 she visited Jimmie, and she was potentially 470 00:22:27,459 --> 00:22:32,709 the last person to actually see Jimmie alive. 471 00:22:32,709 --> 00:22:34,709 - NARRATOR: Detectives locate Sally 472 00:22:34,709 --> 00:22:37,918 and bring her in for an interview. 473 00:22:37,918 --> 00:22:39,709 - When we got there, 474 00:22:39,709 --> 00:22:43,751 I remember them telling me that he was killed. 475 00:22:43,751 --> 00:22:46,709 And I just-- it was so shocking, 476 00:22:46,709 --> 00:22:51,584 I had--I had just seen him just a few hours before that. 477 00:22:51,584 --> 00:22:55,667 It didn't seem real to me. 478 00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:58,751 - NARRATOR: Investigators cut to the chase. 479 00:22:58,751 --> 00:23:00,751 - When asked did she kill him, 480 00:23:00,751 --> 00:23:02,542 she absolutely said no. 481 00:23:02,542 --> 00:23:04,751 Did she know who may have killed him? 482 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:08,542 She said she had no idea. She denied any of it. 483 00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,959 - NARRATOR: Sally also denies Delma's claim 484 00:23:10,959 --> 00:23:13,250 that Jimmie was her lover. 485 00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:16,334 Sally tells them that her boyfriend, Don Endres, 486 00:23:16,334 --> 00:23:18,584 is a friend of Jimmie's. 487 00:23:18,584 --> 00:23:22,167 - I remember trying to explain to them 488 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:24,792 Jimmie and I weren't involved in that way. 489 00:23:24,792 --> 00:23:27,250 We were strictly platonic. 490 00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:31,667 We never did anything along those lines. 491 00:23:31,667 --> 00:23:34,209 - Police asked Sally what she was doing 492 00:23:34,209 --> 00:23:36,667 when she went to visit Jimmie that day. 493 00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:39,501 She said that when she went to talk to him, 494 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,375 she did not go in the shower with him 495 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:42,542 and did not see him naked. 496 00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:44,709 But only talked to him outside of the shower, 497 00:23:44,709 --> 00:23:50,000 that they were just making plans for the day. 498 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,876 - NARRATOR: Sally says, when she returned that evening, 499 00:23:52,876 --> 00:23:56,626 it was to take Jimmie to her boyfriend's house. 500 00:23:56,626 --> 00:23:58,667 - She comes back over to Jimmie's house. 501 00:23:58,667 --> 00:24:01,459 Jimmie said he'll drive, so they get into Jimmie's car, 502 00:24:01,459 --> 00:24:05,250 and they're going out to the foothills. 503 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:08,334 - SALLY: We visited him. We had dinner, 504 00:24:08,334 --> 00:24:11,459 and we drove back to town to Jimmie's. 505 00:24:11,459 --> 00:24:14,292 I got in my car and left. 506 00:24:14,292 --> 00:24:17,167 - She said that was the last time she saw him. 507 00:24:17,167 --> 00:24:18,501 - NARRATOR: For investigators, 508 00:24:18,501 --> 00:24:22,834 Sally's visit to Don raises another question. 509 00:24:22,834 --> 00:24:24,542 - Delma's saying that Sally's got 510 00:24:24,542 --> 00:24:26,751 a sexual relationship with her husband. 511 00:24:26,751 --> 00:24:28,083 Sally's saying that she's had 512 00:24:28,083 --> 00:24:30,375 no sexual relationship with Jimmie. 513 00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,501 Now learning that Sally has a boyfriend 514 00:24:32,501 --> 00:24:33,876 and that Jimmie, actually, 515 00:24:33,876 --> 00:24:37,584 went out to visit the boyfriend that night with her, 516 00:24:37,584 --> 00:24:39,167 now you've got a whole 'nother realm 517 00:24:39,167 --> 00:24:41,709 you got to think about. 518 00:24:41,709 --> 00:24:44,167 - They thought maybe it was a jealousy thing 519 00:24:44,167 --> 00:24:47,751 or, uh, a love triangle. 520 00:24:47,751 --> 00:24:56,542 It quickly turned to, "If it wasn't you, it was Don." 521 00:24:56,542 --> 00:24:58,542 - NARRATOR: But before they move on to Don, 522 00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:02,584 detectives ask Sally to take a polygraph. 523 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,000 - She tells investigators that she would prefer 524 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,918 to speak to a lawyer first. 525 00:25:08,918 --> 00:25:11,209 - A declination to a polygraph, 526 00:25:11,209 --> 00:25:13,125 it doesn't mean that you're guilty 527 00:25:13,125 --> 00:25:16,250 but, again, in law enforcement mind, 528 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:17,459 it's, "If you have nothing to hide, 529 00:25:17,459 --> 00:25:20,626 why will you not take a polygraph?" 530 00:25:20,626 --> 00:25:24,709 - Immediately, they made it clear to me 531 00:25:24,709 --> 00:25:27,876 that I was a person of interest. 532 00:25:27,876 --> 00:25:31,834 I was young. I was scared. 533 00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:33,334 - NARRATOR: With a lawyer present, 534 00:25:33,334 --> 00:25:37,334 Sally relents and agrees to the polygraph. 535 00:25:37,334 --> 00:25:39,334 - LORI: So, Sally was given a polygraph. 536 00:25:39,334 --> 00:25:41,334 She showed no deception, 537 00:25:41,334 --> 00:25:46,083 and Sally was basically taken off the list. 538 00:25:46,083 --> 00:25:47,292 - NARRATOR: The next day, 539 00:25:47,292 --> 00:25:49,334 police give Sally Cook's boyfriend, 540 00:25:49,334 --> 00:25:51,459 Don Endres, a polygraph 541 00:25:51,459 --> 00:25:55,125 to see if he knows more about Jimmie's death. 542 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:57,125 - Don, was asked if he was in possession 543 00:25:57,125 --> 00:25:59,417 of any firearms? Don said he did not. 544 00:25:59,417 --> 00:26:02,334 Don was asked if he killed Jimmie. He said no. 545 00:26:02,334 --> 00:26:05,459 He asked if he knew who killed Jimmie. No. 546 00:26:05,459 --> 00:26:08,167 - PATRICK: He tells them that he trusts Sally 547 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,417 and that he's friends with Jimmie. 548 00:26:10,417 --> 00:26:11,459 And he just says 549 00:26:11,459 --> 00:26:13,709 that they're all friends and everything is okay. 550 00:26:13,709 --> 00:26:16,167 He was basically able to back up everything 551 00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:20,584 that Sally had told investigators. 552 00:26:20,584 --> 00:26:23,792 - NARRATOR: With every potential suspect seemingly cleared, 553 00:26:23,792 --> 00:26:29,542 the only lead left to follow is Jimmie's potential mob ties. 554 00:26:29,542 --> 00:26:33,042 - Police interviewed Jimmie's former wife, Leona, 555 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:35,584 of like 19 years. 556 00:26:35,584 --> 00:26:37,250 She's never known Jimmie to hang out 557 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:40,584 with anybody in the mafia, anything like that. 558 00:26:40,584 --> 00:26:42,459 - There was never any direct evidence 559 00:26:42,459 --> 00:26:45,626 that pointed to the fact that he may have been a mobster. 560 00:26:45,626 --> 00:26:46,876 - NARRATOR: What's more, 561 00:26:46,876 --> 00:26:49,042 Yuma investigators get the results 562 00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:51,834 of gunshot residue and blood trace tests 563 00:26:51,834 --> 00:26:53,834 on Jimmie's wife's clothing. 564 00:26:53,834 --> 00:26:58,584 Both are negative, and Delma is officially clear. 565 00:26:58,584 --> 00:27:01,459 - We just could not get enough probable cause 566 00:27:01,459 --> 00:27:06,417 or evidence to link anybody to this homicide. 567 00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,959 - NARRATOR: With no other witnesses 568 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,167 coming forward and no fingerprints 569 00:27:10,167 --> 00:27:12,501 on the shell casings found at the scene, 570 00:27:12,501 --> 00:27:18,459 police are officially out of leads. 571 00:27:18,459 --> 00:27:22,292 - LORI: We went through numerous, numerous interviews, 572 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:25,292 following every lead that we possibly could. 573 00:27:25,292 --> 00:27:28,459 We just didn't have anything solid. 574 00:27:28,459 --> 00:27:32,125 The case, you know, goes cold. 575 00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:34,042 - NARRATOR: Over 20 years pass, 576 00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:38,334 and Jimmie Ferrara's murder remains unsolved. 577 00:27:38,334 --> 00:27:40,334 - When you have a cold case that has gone on 578 00:27:40,334 --> 00:27:41,667 for decades like this, 579 00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:44,417 really, the only way you are ever going to break it 580 00:27:44,417 --> 00:27:46,375 is if you happen to stumble upon evidence 581 00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:48,667 from some other unrelated crime 582 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:52,083 or if a tipster comes forward. 583 00:27:52,083 --> 00:27:53,584 - I think we all assumed that the murder 584 00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:54,918 would never be solved. 585 00:27:54,918 --> 00:27:57,334 - NARRATOR: Then, out of the blue, 586 00:27:57,334 --> 00:28:00,459 detectives in Yuma get exactly what they need 587 00:28:00,459 --> 00:28:03,876 on January 9, 2006. 588 00:28:03,876 --> 00:28:06,292 - Yuma Police Department gets an anonymous phone call 589 00:28:06,292 --> 00:28:09,292 from a tipster saying he knew the killer 590 00:28:09,292 --> 00:28:13,000 in the Jimmie Ferrara murder. 591 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,375 - NARRATOR: Coming up: 592 00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:16,334 After two long decades, 593 00:28:16,334 --> 00:28:20,250 a suspect finally comes into focus. 594 00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:21,417 - LORI: He's gettin' cotton mouth, 595 00:28:21,417 --> 00:28:30,542 he's startin' to get like a little bit pale. 596 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:38,125 - ♪ 597 00:28:38,125 --> 00:28:42,417 - ♪ 598 00:28:42,417 --> 00:28:44,209 - NARRATOR: In 2006, 599 00:28:44,209 --> 00:28:48,250 investigators in Yuma, Arizona, have just received a tip 600 00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:51,876 that could crack the 20-year-old cold case murder 601 00:28:51,876 --> 00:28:58,167 of western film star, Jimmie Ferrara. 602 00:28:58,167 --> 00:29:00,334 - JAMES T: This is a huge break. 603 00:29:00,334 --> 00:29:04,042 This case has been cold for almost 20 years, 604 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:06,125 and now out of the blue they get a tip 605 00:29:06,125 --> 00:29:09,125 that might give them the answer. 606 00:29:09,125 --> 00:29:12,834 - NARRATOR: The man identifies himself as Cary Elliot. 607 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,501 He claims his nephew, Rick Kosterow, 608 00:29:15,501 --> 00:29:19,334 is responsible for Jimmie's death. 609 00:29:19,334 --> 00:29:20,417 - PATRICK: He tells investigators 610 00:29:20,417 --> 00:29:24,125 that Rick, who was a Marine in Yuma at the time, 611 00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:27,292 had planned the murder of Jimmie Ferrara 612 00:29:27,292 --> 00:29:30,501 with his buddy Don White. 613 00:29:30,501 --> 00:29:33,292 - LORI: He explains that his nephew 614 00:29:33,292 --> 00:29:36,751 and Donald White, soon after the homicide, 615 00:29:36,751 --> 00:29:39,667 came up to his place in California. 616 00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:42,125 They were drinking around a bonfire, 617 00:29:42,125 --> 00:29:46,250 and Rick just starts talking about everything that happened. 618 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:48,167 How they killed this guy, 619 00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:54,375 that he was a western movie star. 620 00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:55,751 - NARRATOR: For two decades, 621 00:29:55,751 --> 00:29:59,167 Cary chose to protect his nephew. 622 00:29:59,167 --> 00:30:00,709 - But 20 years later, 623 00:30:00,709 --> 00:30:04,209 Cary has had a falling out with his nephew, Rick, 624 00:30:04,209 --> 00:30:05,501 and he's upset with him. 625 00:30:05,501 --> 00:30:08,042 And he just didn't think that Rick Kosterow 626 00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:10,375 deserved to get away with this crime. 627 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:11,542 And that is why he is finally, 628 00:30:11,542 --> 00:30:13,167 after so many years, 629 00:30:13,167 --> 00:30:18,292 calling the police to blow the whistle. 630 00:30:18,292 --> 00:30:19,667 - NARRATOR: Investigators find 631 00:30:19,667 --> 00:30:22,000 that if Don White and Rick Kosterow 632 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,334 did actually commit a murder 20 years earlier, 633 00:30:25,334 --> 00:30:28,876 they have since kept their noses clean. 634 00:30:28,876 --> 00:30:30,959 - LORI: Both have gotten out of the Marine Corp 635 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:34,250 and kinda gone on with their lives. 636 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,501 Donald White is now a commercial pilot. 637 00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:38,918 He's in the Army Reserves. 638 00:30:38,918 --> 00:30:40,083 Rick Kosterow is-- 639 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:43,334 is successfully running his family's bagel company, 640 00:30:43,334 --> 00:30:47,125 doing quite well, each one of 'em. 641 00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:48,792 - NARRATOR: In May 2006, 642 00:30:48,792 --> 00:30:51,918 detectives fly to Ft. Still, Oklahoma, 643 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:56,292 to meet with 41-year-old Master Sergeant Don White. 644 00:30:56,292 --> 00:30:58,250 - He's about to deploy to Iraq, 645 00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:01,709 so they rush to make sure that they get a hold of him 646 00:31:01,709 --> 00:31:04,292 before he ships out to overseas. 647 00:31:04,292 --> 00:31:06,125 And they are able to get there in time. 648 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:10,667 And they interview Don White at the military base. 649 00:31:10,667 --> 00:31:12,501 - NARRATOR: Don admits to being friends 650 00:31:12,501 --> 00:31:14,542 with Rick Kosterow when they were both 651 00:31:14,542 --> 00:31:17,459 young marines stationed in Yuma. 652 00:31:17,459 --> 00:31:21,125 But when detectives bring up Jimmie Ferrara's murder, 653 00:31:21,125 --> 00:31:24,167 Don quickly becomes tense. 654 00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:27,417 - He's gettin' cotton mouth, he starts asking for water. 655 00:31:27,417 --> 00:31:31,584 He's startin' to get like a little bit pale. 656 00:31:31,584 --> 00:31:34,167 - NARRATOR: Don explains that, in 1985, 657 00:31:34,167 --> 00:32:07,459 Rick introduced him to a woman he was having an affair with. 658 00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:09,459 - NARRATOR: The woman's name? 659 00:32:09,459 --> 00:32:14,000 Delma Lee Ferrara. 660 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,834 Don says, the one time he met Delma, 661 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:41,000 she showed him evidence of Jimmie's alleged abuse. 662 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,459 - She had promised to pay them each $25,000. 663 00:32:46,459 --> 00:32:50,167 - At that meeting, they actually start plotting 664 00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:51,709 what they're going to do. 665 00:32:51,709 --> 00:32:55,125 Rick and Don and Delma draw a diagram of the house, 666 00:32:55,125 --> 00:32:59,167 and they start talking about when Jimmie is going to be home. 667 00:32:59,167 --> 00:33:01,667 - They start talking about this, 668 00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:06,834 and it snowballs into a plan for murder. 669 00:33:06,834 --> 00:33:10,042 - NARRATOR: On September 29, 1985, 670 00:33:10,042 --> 00:33:13,459 Rick called Don and told him it was time. 671 00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:16,459 They drove to the Ferrara home and entered through 672 00:33:16,459 --> 00:33:20,042 an unlocked door while Jimmie was out with Sally. 673 00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:59,501 When Jimmie returned home, the two men were waiting. 674 00:33:59,501 --> 00:34:00,626 - NARRATOR: Following the murder, 675 00:34:00,626 --> 00:34:04,459 Delma didn't come through on her promise of a reward. 676 00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:07,125 In fact, Don says he never had 677 00:34:07,125 --> 00:34:15,042 any contact with her after that. 678 00:34:15,042 --> 00:34:17,667 - NARRATOR: Investigators place Don under arrest 679 00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:22,918 for the murder of Jimmie Ferrara. 680 00:34:22,918 --> 00:34:25,709 As he awaits extradition to Arizona, 681 00:34:25,709 --> 00:34:30,167 investigators head north to track down Don's accomplice. 682 00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:32,083 - PATRICK: Investigators track down Rick Kosterow 683 00:34:32,083 --> 00:34:35,584 at his family bagel business in Washington State. 684 00:34:35,584 --> 00:34:37,501 He doesn't want to be questioned. 685 00:34:37,501 --> 00:34:38,751 But they, of course tell him, 686 00:34:38,751 --> 00:34:41,334 "If you don't come with us, we're going to arrest you." 687 00:34:41,334 --> 00:34:44,000 And at that point, he agrees to be questioned. 688 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,167 - NARRATOR: When asked how he knew Delma, 689 00:34:46,167 --> 00:34:49,167 47-year-old Rick reluctantly admits 690 00:34:49,167 --> 00:35:09,000 to having an affair with her back in 1985. 691 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,375 - NARRATOR: Detectives bring Don's confession to the table. 692 00:35:12,375 --> 00:35:16,417 But instead of caving, Rick holds his ground. 693 00:35:16,417 --> 00:35:17,918 - Rick was just, you know, 694 00:35:17,918 --> 00:35:20,459 "I don't remember. I don't remember." 695 00:35:20,459 --> 00:35:22,042 - PATRICK: At one point, investigators say, 696 00:35:22,042 --> 00:35:24,417 "Did Don White, ever tell you 697 00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:26,459 about the way the crime went down?" 698 00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:51,667 And that was the first moment that he cracked. 699 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:53,834 - NARRATOR: Rick refuses to admit more, 700 00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:56,501 but it's all detectives need. 701 00:35:56,501 --> 00:35:58,292 - At the end of the interview, 702 00:35:58,292 --> 00:36:04,626 Rick is arrested and extradited back to Yuma. 703 00:36:04,626 --> 00:36:07,792 - NARRATOR: With both Rick and Don behind bars, 704 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:11,959 investigators have one person left to corral-- 705 00:36:11,959 --> 00:36:17,083 a now remarried Delma Troy. 706 00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:18,375 Coming up: 707 00:36:18,375 --> 00:36:26,209 Investigators put Delma on record. 708 00:36:26,209 --> 00:36:28,542 - NARRATOR: Was she a femme fatale 709 00:36:28,542 --> 00:36:38,375 or trapped in a vicious cycle? 710 00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:45,501 - ♪ 711 00:36:45,501 --> 00:36:50,209 - ♪ 712 00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:53,918 - NARRATOR: On May 31, 2006, investigators 713 00:36:53,918 --> 00:36:58,626 from Yuma, Arizona, locate 54-year-old Delma Troy 714 00:36:58,626 --> 00:37:03,584 650 miles away in Fallon, Nevada. 715 00:37:03,584 --> 00:37:05,167 - They put a local tail on her 716 00:37:05,167 --> 00:37:06,918 with the local police department. 717 00:37:06,918 --> 00:37:09,083 And they finally track her down and decide that 718 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:12,459 they are going to arrest her at a local retail store. 719 00:37:12,459 --> 00:37:19,375 And they walk right up to her and they take her into custody. 720 00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:21,959 - NARRATOR: When detectives sit down with Delma, 721 00:37:21,959 --> 00:37:29,125 she claims she doesn't remember Don White. 722 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:33,250 - NARRATOR: But Rick Kosterow is a different story. 723 00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:37,292 According to Delma, she met Rick on a flight back to Nevada, 724 00:37:37,292 --> 00:37:41,250 when she was separated from Jimmie in 1984. 725 00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:45,501 - She strikes up a conversation with the pilot of this flight, 726 00:37:45,501 --> 00:37:47,542 who happens to be Rick Kosterow. 727 00:37:47,542 --> 00:37:49,584 They strike up a bit of a friendship. 728 00:37:49,584 --> 00:37:54,959 And sure enough, at some point, they started a relationship. 729 00:37:54,959 --> 00:37:56,542 - NARRATOR: Delma tells detectives 730 00:37:56,542 --> 00:37:57,876 that her affair with Rick 731 00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:31,042 was a reprieve from her tumultuous marriage. 732 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:33,250 - NARRATOR: She alleges that on the afternoon 733 00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:36,375 of September 29, 1985, 734 00:38:36,375 --> 00:38:37,959 Jimmie beat her badly 735 00:38:37,959 --> 00:39:08,542 after Sally Cook visited their home. 736 00:39:08,542 --> 00:39:25,959 - NARRATOR: Delma insists her involvement stopped there. 737 00:39:25,959 --> 00:39:28,125 - NARRATOR: Delma claims that Don and Rick 738 00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:30,125 acted on their own. 739 00:39:30,125 --> 00:39:33,042 - [gunshot] 740 00:39:33,042 --> 00:39:34,751 - NARRATOR: Soon after the murder, 741 00:39:34,751 --> 00:39:49,792 her relationship with Rick soured. 742 00:39:49,792 --> 00:39:51,667 - NARRATOR: Delma says that even if she had 743 00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:53,542 promised them money, 744 00:39:53,542 --> 00:40:10,709 Jimmie left her with little to give. 745 00:40:10,709 --> 00:40:13,417 - NARRATOR: Having already interviewed Don and Rick, 746 00:40:13,417 --> 00:40:16,250 investigators have one glaring problem 747 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:44,751 with Delma's claims of innocence. 748 00:40:44,751 --> 00:40:46,667 - NARRATOR: As the interview concludes, 749 00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:49,375 Delma's motive comes into focus: 750 00:40:49,375 --> 00:40:53,959 a twofold desire to escape her husband's alleged abuse, 751 00:40:53,959 --> 00:40:58,584 and to get her hands on whatever money he had left. 752 00:40:58,584 --> 00:41:00,959 - LORI: Nobody really knew how much he was worth. 753 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:04,542 But he was getting, annually, $40,000 just in interest 754 00:41:04,542 --> 00:41:07,584 on the sale of the--the two ranches up there. 755 00:41:07,584 --> 00:41:11,167 I mean, lord knows what the property was worth. 756 00:41:11,167 --> 00:41:15,167 I think that she was tired of waiting for Jimmie 757 00:41:15,167 --> 00:41:17,959 to die of natural causes. 758 00:41:17,959 --> 00:41:20,501 - Delma is then charged with first-degree murder 759 00:41:20,501 --> 00:41:25,000 and conspiracy to commit murder. 760 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,209 - NARRATOR: While Delma's claims of abuse 761 00:41:27,209 --> 00:41:29,667 might garner sympathy from jurors, 762 00:41:29,667 --> 00:41:33,375 Delma and her defense team face a significant hurdle 763 00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:36,834 in order to substantiate those allegations. 764 00:41:36,834 --> 00:41:40,542 - There was nothing for us to--to show that, 765 00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:42,459 you know, that she had ever made a police report 766 00:41:42,459 --> 00:41:45,626 as far as being abused or anything like that. 767 00:41:45,626 --> 00:41:48,626 - No one else was able to confirm 768 00:41:48,626 --> 00:41:52,626 this side of Jimmie and Delma's relationship. 769 00:41:52,626 --> 00:41:55,459 - NARRATOR: In 2007, Delma pleads guilty 770 00:41:55,459 --> 00:41:58,459 to attempted second degree murder. 771 00:41:58,459 --> 00:42:01,042 Don makes the same decision, 772 00:42:01,042 --> 00:42:05,542 while Rick chooses to take his chances in court. 773 00:42:05,542 --> 00:42:08,876 - JAMES G: Both Delma and Donald White 774 00:42:08,876 --> 00:42:12,083 had accepted plea offers from the prosecution. 775 00:42:12,083 --> 00:42:15,417 So basically, Kosterow 776 00:42:15,417 --> 00:42:19,000 was going to trial with two people 777 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,042 who he's accused of committing a crime with, 778 00:42:22,042 --> 00:42:24,417 who will testify against him. 779 00:42:24,417 --> 00:42:27,834 - NARRATOR: The gamble doesn't pay off. 780 00:42:27,834 --> 00:42:32,626 - The verdict's read off, "Guilty on all counts." 781 00:42:32,626 --> 00:42:38,334 The judge sentenced him to 25 years to life. 782 00:42:38,334 --> 00:42:40,000 - NARRATOR: Following Rick's trial, 783 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,709 Delma and Don are both sentenced to twelve and a half years. 784 00:42:44,709 --> 00:42:47,542 Having served over half of her sentence, 785 00:42:47,542 --> 00:42:50,459 in February 2015, 786 00:42:50,459 --> 00:42:55,501 62-year-old Delma dies in prison. 787 00:42:55,501 --> 00:42:58,584 - I think she painted Jimmie as somewhat of a monster, 788 00:42:58,584 --> 00:42:59,751 to be honest with you, 789 00:42:59,751 --> 00:43:02,501 and that they-- they wanted to rescue her. 790 00:43:02,501 --> 00:43:05,667 - Delma Lee wasn't evil. 791 00:43:05,667 --> 00:43:08,501 But the men in her life were. 792 00:43:08,501 --> 00:43:11,042 - LORI: She was probably dealt a pretty crappy hand. 793 00:43:11,042 --> 00:43:13,918 But you know it's up to you what you do with it. 794 00:43:13,918 --> 00:43:16,542 In the end, justice is going to find you 795 00:43:16,542 --> 00:43:18,959 no matter how many years later. 796 00:43:18,959 --> 00:43:22,959 - ♪