1 00:00:01,534 --> 00:00:02,601 - ♪ 2 00:00:02,603 --> 00:00:03,936 - female narrator: For one veteran, 3 00:00:03,938 --> 00:00:07,206 the woods of oregon seemed like the perfect setting 4 00:00:07,208 --> 00:00:09,541 for a new beginning. 5 00:00:09,543 --> 00:00:12,461 - She spoke of coming to southern oregon 6 00:00:12,463 --> 00:00:18,467 to start a nice, quiet, simple life away from the city. 7 00:00:18,469 --> 00:00:22,354 - She was just a rough old woman that was living off the grid. 8 00:00:22,356 --> 00:00:24,473 - ♪ 9 00:00:24,475 --> 00:00:26,442 - narrator: But when a traveling handyman 10 00:00:26,444 --> 00:00:31,063 goes missing, it sends a chill rippling across this peaceful, 11 00:00:31,065 --> 00:00:32,781 rural community. 12 00:00:32,783 --> 00:00:34,366 - Julie: It certainly raises red flags 13 00:00:34,368 --> 00:00:37,703 when somebody is reported missing and they don't have 14 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:41,040 their most important belongings with them. 15 00:00:41,042 --> 00:00:44,209 - It made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. 16 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:45,544 We basically all, uh, 17 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:47,713 feared something bad had happened. 18 00:00:47,715 --> 00:00:49,748 - Narrator: As the investigation begins, 19 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,751 dark secrets are exposed. 20 00:00:52,753 --> 00:00:54,670 - He was having a little hard time with alcohol, 21 00:00:54,672 --> 00:00:58,290 I don't know how he was doing dealing with reality. 22 00:00:58,292 --> 00:01:00,459 - He was distraught, he was very angry. 23 00:01:00,461 --> 00:01:02,728 - ♪ 24 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:04,963 - narrator: And when the pieces fall into place, 25 00:01:04,965 --> 00:01:08,434 detectives will discover a disturbing crime, 26 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:11,987 more twisted than anyone could imagine. 27 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:15,574 - I've had nightmares about this case for years. 28 00:01:15,576 --> 00:01:17,543 - Eric: I'm thinking to myself as we're pulling up 29 00:01:17,545 --> 00:01:19,745 like, "are we in the twilight zone here?" 30 00:01:19,747 --> 00:01:23,882 like, what is this place? It's--it was crazy. 31 00:01:23,884 --> 00:01:25,484 - Mark: It looked like the setting of 32 00:01:25,486 --> 00:01:26,919 a low budget horror film. 33 00:01:26,921 --> 00:01:31,340 How many more bodies are they going to find? Four, five, six? 34 00:01:31,342 --> 00:01:33,175 - Allan: That is what caused us concern-- 35 00:01:33,177 --> 00:01:35,827 that indeed we were dealing with a serial killer. 36 00:01:35,829 --> 00:01:38,130 - ♪ 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,853 - ♪ 38 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:48,307 ♪♪ 39 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:51,777 - ♪ 40 00:01:51,779 --> 00:01:55,314 - narrator: January 1, 2014. 41 00:01:55,316 --> 00:01:58,050 It's the middle of a wet, frigid winter 42 00:01:58,052 --> 00:02:01,286 as the children of 56-year-old robert haney 43 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:05,657 gather in medford, oregon, to discuss their father. 44 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:09,661 - We haven't seen or heard from my dad for two months now, 45 00:02:09,663 --> 00:02:12,631 we just all started to kind of panic and worry. 46 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:17,736 - ♪ 47 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:19,838 - narrator: The haney siblings drive together 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,907 to the home of susan monica, 49 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:25,060 their father's employer and landlord. 50 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:28,814 When they arrive, susan says she hasn't seen their father 51 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:31,883 since he quit without notice in September-- 52 00:02:31,885 --> 00:02:34,736 nearly four months ago. 53 00:02:34,738 --> 00:02:37,940 - Jesse: Susan monica said that my dad just basically left. 54 00:02:37,942 --> 00:02:41,577 She wanted us to come get her-- uh, retrieve our dad's stuff. 55 00:02:41,579 --> 00:02:46,748 - ♪ 56 00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:48,250 - narrator: When robert's kids arrive 57 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:50,118 at their father's trailer, 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,673 they immediately know something is wrong. 59 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:57,075 - Jesse: His motorcycle and truck was there, 60 00:02:57,077 --> 00:02:59,094 his leather jacket was there, 61 00:02:59,096 --> 00:03:02,464 his dog was still running around, 62 00:03:02,466 --> 00:03:05,017 and all his tools were there. 63 00:03:05,019 --> 00:03:08,770 - Robert haney always took excellent care of his tools, 64 00:03:08,772 --> 00:03:10,439 they were his livelihood, 65 00:03:10,441 --> 00:03:14,643 and he would never leave them just strew about the location 66 00:03:14,645 --> 00:03:17,362 as they found them. 67 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:20,699 - Jesse: It made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. 68 00:03:20,701 --> 00:03:23,819 We basically all feared something bad had happened. 69 00:03:23,821 --> 00:03:29,074 - ♪ 70 00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:32,811 - narrator: Born on June 26, 1957, 71 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:36,848 robert haney had struggled most of his life. 72 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:42,054 - Robert wasn't very popular, he didn't have a lot of dates, 73 00:03:42,056 --> 00:03:45,474 or friends. He was just quiet. 74 00:03:45,476 --> 00:03:48,677 Robert did not finish high school, he took off. 75 00:03:48,679 --> 00:03:52,998 - Him and his brother, don, basically ran away 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,702 when the were younger and started out on their own. 77 00:03:56,704 --> 00:03:59,037 My dad, robert, would do plumbing, construction, 78 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,740 he would basically build a house from the bottom up. 79 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:05,210 - ♪ 80 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:06,912 - narrator: As he was establishing himself 81 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:08,680 in the construction business, 82 00:04:08,682 --> 00:04:13,552 robert met a woman named thalia larson at a party. 83 00:04:13,554 --> 00:04:17,456 The couple married in the early '80s and raised 5 children, 84 00:04:17,458 --> 00:04:20,892 but it wasn't an easy life. 85 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:23,528 - My dad was mainly working a lot, 86 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:26,598 he'd be working there six days a week. 87 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,802 He just wanted to provide for his kids, 88 00:04:30,804 --> 00:04:34,723 then there was issues between my dad and my mom. 89 00:04:34,725 --> 00:04:36,108 They were just arguing too much 90 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:41,113 and just couldn't--no longer be together, as far as I know. 91 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:44,783 He basically just kept working to drown out the feelings. 92 00:04:47,354 --> 00:04:50,789 - Narrator: In 2003, robert and his wife divorced, 93 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:54,159 and he and his children moved north to medford, oregon, 94 00:04:54,161 --> 00:04:56,895 for a change of pace. 95 00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:59,331 - When I was ten, we moved up to medford. 96 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:02,084 It was definitely a fresh start for my dad. 97 00:05:02,086 --> 00:05:03,919 He was able to get quite a few jobs, 98 00:05:03,921 --> 00:05:07,556 he really just wanted for provide for his kids. 99 00:05:07,558 --> 00:05:09,391 - ♪ 100 00:05:09,393 --> 00:05:13,595 - narrator: In 2012, after the last of his kids moved out, 101 00:05:13,597 --> 00:05:15,897 robert decided it was time to downsize 102 00:05:15,899 --> 00:05:18,767 and bought a dog and a camper. 103 00:05:18,769 --> 00:05:21,269 - My dad replied to an ad on craigslist 104 00:05:21,271 --> 00:05:25,073 about a job for handyman work 105 00:05:25,075 --> 00:05:27,442 in exchange to live on the property, 106 00:05:27,444 --> 00:05:30,195 that's when my dad met susan monica. 107 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,468 - Narrator: Susan monica was born in california 108 00:05:36,470 --> 00:05:39,204 on July 8, 1948, 109 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:42,907 but, her early days are somewhat of a mystery. 110 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:47,412 - Susan didn't open up quite often about her past. 111 00:05:47,414 --> 00:05:48,814 - Narrator: Although not much is known 112 00:05:48,816 --> 00:05:50,816 about susan's early life, 113 00:05:50,818 --> 00:05:54,286 according to veteran records, she was born a male 114 00:05:54,288 --> 00:05:57,856 and served in the navy during the vietnam era. 115 00:05:57,858 --> 00:06:00,425 - From the department of veteran affairs, 116 00:06:00,427 --> 00:06:04,763 I learned that susan was actually born steven buchanan. 117 00:06:04,765 --> 00:06:07,799 - ♪ 118 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:09,801 - narrator: After being honorably discharged, 119 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:14,506 susan began living her life as a female. 120 00:06:14,508 --> 00:06:20,145 - She got into an engineering career and was very successful. 121 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:25,851 - She worked on submarines in san francisco. 122 00:06:25,853 --> 00:06:27,519 - Narrator: Susan's demanding job 123 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:30,639 soon had her dreaming of a quieter life, 124 00:06:30,641 --> 00:06:33,425 away from the california rat race. 125 00:06:33,427 --> 00:06:39,231 So, in 1991, she bought a 20-acre farm in wimer, oregon. 126 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:42,517 - Susan spoke of coming to southern oregon 127 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:47,989 to start a new life, to have a farm, some animals, 128 00:06:47,991 --> 00:06:53,912 and just a nice, quiet, simple life away from the city. 129 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:56,998 - She lived on her place with no electricity, 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,667 it was a little shack. 131 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:03,355 She was just a rough old woman that was living off the grid. 132 00:07:03,357 --> 00:07:06,041 - Susan was a person that isolated herself, 133 00:07:06,043 --> 00:07:09,127 except when she needed to go into town to get something. 134 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:10,796 She didn't want to be around people. 135 00:07:10,798 --> 00:07:14,433 - ♪ 136 00:07:14,435 --> 00:07:16,852 - narrator: Susan raised a small crop of pigs 137 00:07:16,854 --> 00:07:19,771 and started a welding company. 138 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:24,443 - She made wrought-iron fences, and they were beautiful. 139 00:07:24,445 --> 00:07:29,347 She could put anything on them-- from decorative animals to trees 140 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:31,566 - ♪ 141 00:07:31,568 --> 00:07:32,784 - narrator: In her spare time, 142 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:36,154 susan focused on making improvements to her farm. 143 00:07:36,156 --> 00:07:37,589 - ♪ 144 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:40,375 - it was raw land when susan first got there, 145 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:42,727 she put that huge barn up, 146 00:07:42,729 --> 00:07:47,599 and then susan had decided she was going to build a house. 147 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:50,769 - Julie: She was looking for a handyman to help out. 148 00:07:50,771 --> 00:07:52,387 She had put up ads in stores, 149 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:55,390 and she had used the internet as well, 150 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,425 and that's how she met robert haney. 151 00:07:57,427 --> 00:08:00,395 - ♪ 152 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:02,230 - narrator: In 2013, 153 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:07,269 robert and his dog moved out to susan's property in his camper. 154 00:08:07,271 --> 00:08:10,405 - My dad and susan monica had a deal. 155 00:08:10,407 --> 00:08:15,610 My dad would get part cash and be able to stay on the property. 156 00:08:15,612 --> 00:08:19,414 My dad agreed to build the house from the bottom up. 157 00:08:19,416 --> 00:08:24,202 - He was her handyman, a laborer, a carpenter, 158 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:28,373 whatever she asked of him, he did. 159 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:30,742 - Narrator: By the summer of 2013, 160 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:34,095 robert seemed happier than ever. 161 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:35,630 - Jesse: He didn't mind living in the trailer, 162 00:08:35,632 --> 00:08:36,848 working out there. 163 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,683 He really just liked being out in the woods, 164 00:08:38,685 --> 00:08:43,555 basically by himself and to have nice peace and quiet. 165 00:08:43,557 --> 00:08:47,325 - ♪ 166 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:49,794 - narrator: So, when robert suddenly disappears 167 00:08:49,796 --> 00:08:52,163 in September 2013, 168 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:55,317 his children are stunned that their father would abandon 169 00:08:55,319 --> 00:09:00,739 such an ideal position, leaving all of his possessions behind. 170 00:09:00,741 --> 00:09:02,273 - It was really unlike my dad 171 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,826 to just leave all of his stuff like that. 172 00:09:04,828 --> 00:09:08,380 So, we went ahead and put a missing person's report. 173 00:09:08,382 --> 00:09:11,633 - This person's already been gone for three months or so, 174 00:09:11,635 --> 00:09:13,668 you know? You're behind the curve already, 175 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:15,971 and you don't know what's happened to this person 176 00:09:15,973 --> 00:09:18,223 or if anything bad has happened to them. 177 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:20,725 - ♪ 178 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:21,893 - narrator: Coming up, 179 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:24,179 the discovery of a horrific event 180 00:09:24,181 --> 00:09:26,565 in the weeks before robert's disappearance 181 00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:30,301 raises new concerns for the haney family. 182 00:09:30,303 --> 00:09:33,939 - He was distraught, he was very angry, 183 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:36,741 he wanted to seek revenge. 184 00:09:36,743 --> 00:09:39,844 - What if he got into something that he was not able to handle 185 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:42,664 and he was hurt, or someone killed him? 186 00:09:42,666 --> 00:09:45,750 - We called everywhere that we could think of. 187 00:09:45,752 --> 00:09:48,703 We were just all hoping my dad would still be alive. 188 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:53,992 - ♪ 189 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:03,368 - ♪ 190 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:06,504 - narrator: On January 1, 2014, 191 00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:08,573 robert haney's family arrives 192 00:10:08,575 --> 00:10:11,242 at the jackson county, oregon, sheriff's office 193 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:14,996 to file a missing person's report. 194 00:10:14,998 --> 00:10:16,865 - They told the sheriff's office 195 00:10:16,867 --> 00:10:19,284 that the last place that they were aware 196 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:21,036 that robert haney was, 197 00:10:21,038 --> 00:10:24,756 was working on susan monica's property. 198 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:27,208 - At that point, we had an idea that robert haney 199 00:10:27,210 --> 00:10:28,877 had been missing for a few months. 200 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:32,547 We know that he had been seen in early September. 201 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:34,099 It certainly raises red flags 202 00:10:34,101 --> 00:10:36,184 when somebody is reported missing 203 00:10:36,186 --> 00:10:39,888 and they don't have their most important belongings with them. 204 00:10:39,890 --> 00:10:42,774 They don't have their dog, especially. 205 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:45,360 - ♪ 206 00:10:45,362 --> 00:10:46,728 - narrator: Robert's children admit 207 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:48,346 that, since they moved out, 208 00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:53,318 their single father has enjoyed a more nomadic lifestyle. 209 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,519 - Eric: It was kind of spotty, 210 00:10:54,521 --> 00:10:57,989 like, you know, they would often go a month or two 211 00:10:57,991 --> 00:11:01,960 without talking to their dad, but, it was still consistent. 212 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:05,664 They always did continue to talk to their father. 213 00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:08,533 - It can be more difficult to track down somebody 214 00:11:08,535 --> 00:11:13,138 if they live a lifestyle where they don't have a regular home. 215 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:15,240 - Narrator: Making matters more difficult, 216 00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:16,474 the haney children 217 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:21,262 say their father worked in a cash-only business. 218 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:25,266 - They asked me and my siblings if my dad had any debit cards, 219 00:11:25,268 --> 00:11:29,754 credit cards, and we told him that he did have an ebt card. 220 00:11:29,756 --> 00:11:31,256 - The haney children also told me 221 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:34,592 that he didn't have any other, you know, bank accounts, 222 00:11:34,594 --> 00:11:38,329 or anything like that that they knew of. 223 00:11:38,331 --> 00:11:39,631 - Narrator: When detectives ask 224 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:42,300 how robert was behaving in the weeks leading up 225 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:43,768 to his disappearance, 226 00:11:43,770 --> 00:11:47,238 his children reveal that robert was deeply affected 227 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,792 by a recent traumatic event. 228 00:11:50,794 --> 00:11:54,262 - Jesse: Someone was assaulted in my family, 229 00:11:54,264 --> 00:11:56,598 and so my dad was going through a rough time with that. 230 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,099 - ♪ 231 00:11:58,101 --> 00:12:01,085 - sean: I know he did love his family, 232 00:12:01,087 --> 00:12:05,106 and he cared about what happened. 233 00:12:05,108 --> 00:12:08,860 He was distraught, he was very angry, 234 00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:11,229 he wanted to seek revenge. 235 00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:15,650 - Narrator: The haney children say 236 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:20,605 that the stress of the situation drove their father to drink. 237 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:25,443 - He was likable enough, you know, when he wasn't drunk. 238 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:26,661 But when robert was drunk, 239 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:29,614 he was a little hard to--like most of us-- 240 00:12:29,616 --> 00:12:31,666 are hard to deal with. 241 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:33,635 - Just seeing him go through that much pain 242 00:12:33,637 --> 00:12:38,056 and be in that much depression, it was pretty hard. 243 00:12:38,058 --> 00:12:42,961 - ♪ 244 00:12:42,963 --> 00:12:45,230 - narrator: After speaking with robert's children, 245 00:12:45,232 --> 00:12:46,765 jackson county detectives 246 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:49,400 head to the last place that he was seen-- 247 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:53,004 the home of his employer, susan monica. 248 00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:57,692 - When we were coming down this gravel road 249 00:12:57,694 --> 00:12:59,043 coming up to her property, 250 00:12:59,045 --> 00:13:00,879 I'm thinking to myself as we're pulling up 251 00:13:00,881 --> 00:13:03,715 like, "are in the twilight zone here?" 252 00:13:03,717 --> 00:13:04,883 like, what is this place? 253 00:13:04,885 --> 00:13:09,987 - ♪ 254 00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:12,190 - julie: The property is wooded, 255 00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:14,692 it's cluttered quite a bit with vehicles 256 00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:18,696 and outbuildings, and makeshift structures. 257 00:13:18,698 --> 00:13:23,167 It was really in a state of disrepair. 258 00:13:23,169 --> 00:13:26,104 - Eric: When I started talking to susan, 259 00:13:26,106 --> 00:13:29,440 she came across as very cordial, 260 00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:33,027 she was kind of a cheerful person, 261 00:13:33,029 --> 00:13:35,363 seemed to be helpful about, you know, 262 00:13:35,365 --> 00:13:37,565 wanting to help the investigation 263 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:40,318 and help us find him. 264 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,787 Robert haney had lived on her property 265 00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:45,323 for about six months or so, 266 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:48,526 and the initial agreement that susan told me they had 267 00:13:48,528 --> 00:13:52,363 was he would do some handy work around the property. 268 00:13:52,365 --> 00:13:56,401 Then, he received a concerning phone call from a family member 269 00:13:56,403 --> 00:13:59,470 that she'd been a victim of assault, 270 00:13:59,472 --> 00:14:02,841 and he was really upset about that. 271 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:05,727 Susan really described robert haney during that interview 272 00:14:05,729 --> 00:14:08,112 as, you know, being a depressed man. 273 00:14:08,114 --> 00:14:09,781 - ♪ 274 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:11,549 - narrator: After the alleged assault, 275 00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:14,602 susan says her formerly reliable handyman 276 00:14:14,604 --> 00:14:16,938 started drinking heavily. 277 00:14:16,940 --> 00:14:19,657 - ♪ 278 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,776 - he was having a little hard time with alcohol. 279 00:14:21,778 --> 00:14:23,578 I don't know how much he remembered. 280 00:14:23,580 --> 00:14:26,748 I don't know how robert was doing dealing with reality. 281 00:14:26,750 --> 00:14:28,499 I have no idea. 282 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:30,785 - Sean: Through the night, he would--down by his trailer, 283 00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:34,071 by himself, he would yell. 284 00:14:34,073 --> 00:14:38,743 You could hear him screaming, just, you know, "why?" 285 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:41,963 and, "god, why?" and all that kind of stuff. 286 00:14:45,084 --> 00:14:48,519 - Narrator: Susan says that on September 9, 2013, 287 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:51,973 she decided to confront robert about his drinking, 288 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:56,945 but before she could, he approached her. 289 00:14:56,947 --> 00:15:00,398 - He had come up from his trailer 290 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,968 and handed her some money. 291 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:06,154 He told her, you know, "will you take care of my dog? 292 00:15:06,156 --> 00:15:09,290 I've got some things to take care of." 293 00:15:09,292 --> 00:15:13,628 - she just assumed that he was going to return, took the money, 294 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:16,981 was going to agree to take care of his dog while he was gone. 295 00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:18,833 He had gotten in this white sedan 296 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:20,351 driven by another male, 297 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:23,137 she not seen him since that time. 298 00:15:23,139 --> 00:15:25,690 - Robert did mention something about the attack 299 00:15:25,692 --> 00:15:28,660 and wanting to look for the individuals. 300 00:15:28,662 --> 00:15:30,895 - Eric: That's something we had to consider as investigators: 301 00:15:30,897 --> 00:15:34,349 What if he got into something that he was not able to handle 302 00:15:34,351 --> 00:15:36,567 and he was hurt or someone killed him? 303 00:15:36,569 --> 00:15:40,488 - ♪ 304 00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:42,240 - narrator: After speaking to susan, 305 00:15:42,242 --> 00:15:44,475 detectives return to the station 306 00:15:44,477 --> 00:15:47,078 and attempt to track down robert, 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,415 or the white car susan says she saw him leave in 308 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:52,583 nearly four months ago. 309 00:15:52,585 --> 00:15:55,837 - Eric: Not having a make or model, license plate, 310 00:15:55,839 --> 00:16:00,041 we wouldn't put out bolo if we didn't have enough information 311 00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:02,660 to be descriptive about the vehicle. 312 00:16:02,662 --> 00:16:04,379 - Jesse: There was no clues. 313 00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:06,848 We did like call all of the homeless shelters, 314 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:09,000 we called all of the hospitals, 315 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:11,970 we called everywhere that we could think of. 316 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:14,906 We were just all hoping that my dad would still be alive. 317 00:16:14,908 --> 00:16:17,892 - ♪ 318 00:16:17,894 --> 00:16:19,193 - narrator: For detectives, 319 00:16:19,195 --> 00:16:23,398 the only possible lead is robert's ebt card. 320 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,018 On January 9, they contact the state agency 321 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:31,039 to see when and where the card was last used. 322 00:16:31,041 --> 00:16:34,292 - There had been activity on robert haney's card, 323 00:16:34,294 --> 00:16:40,197 and that the last activity was actually December of 2013. 324 00:16:40,199 --> 00:16:42,250 - It has been used at a date 325 00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:45,269 after susan monica said that he had disappeared. 326 00:16:45,271 --> 00:16:49,440 - ♪ 327 00:16:49,442 --> 00:16:53,644 - we were able to track down the last couple of purchases 328 00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:57,381 that were at a walmart in grant's pass, oregon. 329 00:16:57,383 --> 00:16:58,983 Grant's pass, oregon, is about 330 00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:02,403 maybe a 20-minute, 30-minute drive 331 00:17:02,405 --> 00:17:04,055 from susan monica's house. 332 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:05,823 - Narrator: With this new information, 333 00:17:05,825 --> 00:17:08,576 detectives can't help but wonder: 334 00:17:08,578 --> 00:17:13,081 Is robert's disappearance just a misunderstanding? 335 00:17:13,083 --> 00:17:16,233 - Maybe he was on the run, maybe he was going somewhere. 336 00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:21,172 - I met with investigator avery at the walmart in grant's pass 337 00:17:21,174 --> 00:17:25,076 and was able to actually look at the video 338 00:17:25,078 --> 00:17:27,929 of the person using robert haney's card. 339 00:17:27,931 --> 00:17:31,516 And you know, I'm expecting, well, hopefully it's robert. 340 00:17:31,518 --> 00:17:37,055 But what I saw was susan monica. 341 00:17:37,057 --> 00:17:38,523 That's when I was like, "okay, 342 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:41,159 we got something else going on here," and I was really 343 00:17:41,161 --> 00:17:43,311 concerned that there was some foul play involved 344 00:17:43,313 --> 00:17:45,029 in robert haney's disappearance. 345 00:17:47,267 --> 00:17:49,200 - Narrator: Coming up, 346 00:17:49,202 --> 00:17:53,788 this missing person's case takes a disturbing turn. 347 00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:56,908 - I would describe that property as eerie. 348 00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:01,612 There was a very strong odor there, a lot of decay. 349 00:18:01,614 --> 00:18:07,251 - He kind of stops, and he says, "I think that might be a leg." 350 00:18:16,129 --> 00:18:18,863 - ♪ 351 00:18:26,806 --> 00:18:29,924 - narrator: In early January 2014, 352 00:18:29,926 --> 00:18:32,410 jackson county detectives discover 353 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:35,813 that months after robert haney was last seen, 354 00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:37,882 his employer, susan monica, 355 00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:41,552 used his ebt card at a local walmart. 356 00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:43,154 - ♪ 357 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:44,772 - julie: We worked on a search warrant 358 00:18:44,774 --> 00:18:47,992 to search her property for the crime of identity theft. 359 00:18:47,994 --> 00:18:50,995 At that point, several detectives were more involved, 360 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:52,580 and we were mobilizing 361 00:18:52,582 --> 00:18:56,033 to serve a search warrant at her property. 362 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:02,440 - Narrator: On January 10, 2014, 363 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:07,178 law enforcement arrives at susan's farm. 364 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:08,679 - Eric: I'm like, "susan, you know, 365 00:19:08,681 --> 00:19:13,417 "you're on video using robert haney's oregon trail card, 366 00:19:13,419 --> 00:19:15,019 tell me about that." 367 00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:19,790 susan was, to me, visibly nervous 368 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:24,095 and what I would describe as worried. 369 00:19:24,097 --> 00:19:27,198 - Susan said that she had permission from robert 370 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,399 to use the card 371 00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:32,486 when she was tasked with having to feed his dog. 372 00:19:32,488 --> 00:19:33,871 - Eric: Susan explained to me 373 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:36,774 that she stopped using robert haney's card 374 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:41,245 because it had actually expired, there was no money left on it. 375 00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:46,617 - Narrator: A few hundred yards away, 376 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:49,453 officers begin to scour susan's property 377 00:19:49,455 --> 00:19:52,473 for signs of robert's possessions. 378 00:19:52,475 --> 00:19:55,977 - We went on with the search warrant procedure 379 00:19:55,979 --> 00:20:00,498 which involves a video of the property. 380 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,401 I would describe that property as eerie. 381 00:20:03,403 --> 00:20:09,040 There was a very strong odor there, a lot of decay. 382 00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:10,858 - It's like she never threw anything out, 383 00:20:10,860 --> 00:20:13,661 just piles and piles of garbage, 384 00:20:13,663 --> 00:20:19,217 and discarded food, just junk, pieces of metal. 385 00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:22,553 There's no running water, no septic system. 386 00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:26,374 It looked like the setting of a low-budget horror film. 387 00:20:29,195 --> 00:20:31,329 - Allan: Sergeant nathan sickler was the one 388 00:20:31,331 --> 00:20:34,065 who was doing that videotaping, 389 00:20:34,067 --> 00:20:36,667 and as he's walking around the property, 390 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:38,002 and describing the property, 391 00:20:38,004 --> 00:20:40,037 and videotaping the property, 392 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:45,209 he comes to like a catchment pond type of area. 393 00:20:45,211 --> 00:20:47,695 He's filming that, and in his camera, 394 00:20:47,697 --> 00:20:51,649 you can see come into video, something unusual. 395 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:56,237 - He kind of stops and he says, "I think that might be a leg." 396 00:20:56,239 --> 00:21:00,891 - ♪ 397 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:05,796 - julie: It was clear that it was not an animal bone. 398 00:21:05,798 --> 00:21:08,582 It appeared to me to be a human leg 399 00:21:08,584 --> 00:21:13,587 that had been severed mid-femur down to the toes. 400 00:21:13,589 --> 00:21:15,372 - Eric: Meanwhile, I'm interviewing susan, 401 00:21:15,374 --> 00:21:18,092 and I don't know anything about this, what they've discovered. 402 00:21:18,094 --> 00:21:20,511 And detective steve bone came over to me, 403 00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:23,948 and I remember he just whispered into my ear, 404 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:25,232 "we just found a leg." 405 00:21:25,234 --> 00:21:27,952 - ♪ 406 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:30,554 - eric: It was hard not to have a shocked look on my face, 407 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:33,624 and so I, at that point, we-- 408 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,577 I told susan, I said, "hey, let's go back 409 00:21:36,579 --> 00:21:39,613 to the police department for an interview in the office," 410 00:21:39,615 --> 00:21:41,082 and so she agreed to do that. 411 00:21:41,084 --> 00:21:44,752 - ♪ 412 00:21:44,754 --> 00:21:46,070 - narrator: At the station, 413 00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:50,308 detectives confront susan with their gruesome finding. 414 00:22:06,976 --> 00:22:09,026 - Narrator: Confronted with this information, 415 00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:11,395 susan changes her story, 416 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:16,283 and explains what supposedly happened in September of 2013. 417 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:28,189 - [gunshot blasts] 418 00:23:47,743 --> 00:23:50,878 - after robert was shot, 419 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,965 susan left him out in the pigpen for a couple of days. 420 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:57,551 She said she took his clothes off 421 00:23:57,553 --> 00:24:02,056 so that it would be easier for the pigs to have access to him. 422 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:07,595 - Narrator: Susan says after the pigs had eaten 423 00:24:07,597 --> 00:24:12,016 their fill, she gathered up what was left of robert haney. 424 00:24:23,329 --> 00:24:26,563 - Allan: It appears that some animal, perhaps a coyote 425 00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:29,583 or something like that, had smelled him, 426 00:24:29,585 --> 00:24:34,004 had gotten into and torn open one of these black trash bags 427 00:24:34,006 --> 00:24:37,975 and had pulled that leg out towards the pond area 428 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:40,177 in order to consume it. 429 00:24:40,179 --> 00:24:44,181 We asked susan monica why she did not call 911, 430 00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:47,768 why she didn't get the off of him, 431 00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:50,554 why she didn't shoot the pigs. 432 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:08,605 - The only remorse she expressed during this entire time, 433 00:25:08,607 --> 00:25:11,458 and the only emotion she really showed to us 434 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:15,279 was she did not want her pigs harmed. 435 00:25:15,281 --> 00:25:19,350 - Robert haney, she didn't think he was worth a lot as a person 436 00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:23,220 and her pigs were so valuable to her, 437 00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,055 the way she was talking, 438 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:29,226 was probably the most cold and uncaring 439 00:25:29,228 --> 00:25:33,314 I'd ever encountered before in any person who's killed anyone. 440 00:25:36,235 --> 00:25:37,851 - Julie: The detectives told susan 441 00:25:37,853 --> 00:25:39,770 that they were going to search every inch 442 00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:43,324 of her 20-acre property, and they asked her, 443 00:25:43,326 --> 00:25:46,810 "what else are we going to find on your property?" 444 00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:52,333 - eric: And that's when she visibly started to break down, 445 00:25:52,335 --> 00:25:54,585 and I could see the look on her face 446 00:25:54,587 --> 00:25:58,372 and her kind of stumbling with words 447 00:25:58,374 --> 00:26:00,841 to say what she was going to tell me next. 448 00:26:00,843 --> 00:26:02,159 - ♪ 449 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,211 - allan: She asked for a piece of paper, 450 00:26:04,213 --> 00:26:08,382 and she drew a rough outline of 451 00:26:08,384 --> 00:26:11,518 the pigpens and the barn. 452 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,688 She made an x that was just outside the fence line 453 00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:17,558 of the pigpens, and she told the detective 454 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,611 that there was something worse in that location. 455 00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:23,030 - ♪ 456 00:26:23,032 --> 00:26:24,682 - narrator: Coming up, 457 00:26:24,684 --> 00:26:29,236 what secrets are hiding on susan's homestead? 458 00:26:29,238 --> 00:26:32,456 - She had a whole back room 459 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:35,526 full of personal belongings from people. 460 00:26:35,528 --> 00:26:37,027 - Narrator: And detectives fear 461 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:38,429 they are sitting across 462 00:26:38,431 --> 00:26:42,132 from one of the deadliest killers in america. 463 00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:45,469 - She told me that if she told me about the 17 others 464 00:26:45,471 --> 00:26:47,671 that she would spend the rest of her life in jail. 465 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:54,044 - ♪ 466 00:26:59,135 --> 00:27:00,784 - ♪ 467 00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:04,438 - narrator: After confessing to her role in the brutal death 468 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,591 of 56-year-old handyman robert haney, 469 00:27:07,593 --> 00:27:09,827 susan monica tells detectives 470 00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:12,896 that there is something even more disturbing 471 00:27:12,898 --> 00:27:16,367 buried on her remote oregon homestead. 472 00:27:16,369 --> 00:27:18,986 - She kind of drew the layout of her barn area 473 00:27:18,988 --> 00:27:20,204 and kind of out in the pigpen, 474 00:27:20,206 --> 00:27:22,206 she put an x right in the middle, 475 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,624 and she said, "right there, 476 00:27:23,626 --> 00:27:25,626 that's where you're going to find steve." 477 00:27:25,628 --> 00:27:30,631 - ♪ 478 00:27:30,633 --> 00:27:32,800 - narrator: Susan says that robert haney 479 00:27:32,802 --> 00:27:37,171 wasn't the first handyman to work on the property, 480 00:27:37,173 --> 00:27:41,325 or the first to die there. 481 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,060 - Julie: We learned that stephen delicino 482 00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:46,397 was somebody who lived on a neighboring property, 483 00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:51,185 and he would do odd jobs for susan on her property, 484 00:27:51,187 --> 00:27:54,988 which was one year prior to robert's death. 485 00:27:54,990 --> 00:27:56,323 - My dad was a handyman. 486 00:27:56,325 --> 00:27:59,993 I always remember him carrying a box of tools. 487 00:27:59,995 --> 00:28:02,029 He was a hard worker. 488 00:28:02,031 --> 00:28:06,033 - He was this kind of transient person, loner, you know? 489 00:28:06,035 --> 00:28:08,619 Susan liked stephen. 490 00:28:08,621 --> 00:28:11,338 She described stephen as more of a gentleman, 491 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:13,757 that he would open the door for people, 492 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,377 and, you know, he was kind. 493 00:28:18,714 --> 00:28:21,849 - Narrator: Until, in the summer of 2012, 494 00:28:21,851 --> 00:28:27,538 susan claims she noticed that two of her guns were missing. 495 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:30,741 - Julie: She riled through his property 496 00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:35,846 and she found two guns--one was a handgun, one was a rifle. 497 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:38,198 - Susan says she confronted stephen 498 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,536 about these guns that she believed he had stolen, 499 00:28:42,538 --> 00:28:46,457 and that's when things kind of went south. 500 00:28:46,459 --> 00:28:50,193 She said that she had her .22 revolver 501 00:28:50,195 --> 00:28:55,365 and that they got into kind of a wrestling match 502 00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:57,701 over this .22 revolver. 503 00:28:57,703 --> 00:29:00,087 - She was trying to take it away from him 504 00:29:00,089 --> 00:29:01,939 and the gun went off, 505 00:29:01,941 --> 00:29:04,475 and he was shot in the back of his head. 506 00:29:04,477 --> 00:29:07,261 - ♪ 507 00:29:07,263 --> 00:29:09,563 - narrator: Susan says she was terrified 508 00:29:09,565 --> 00:29:11,615 that she had killed her friend, 509 00:29:11,617 --> 00:29:16,820 but, instead, he stood up, still bleeding from the head. 510 00:29:16,822 --> 00:29:20,991 - Allan: She said she ran out into the area in front 511 00:29:20,993 --> 00:29:25,095 of the barn, that he chased her, 512 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:26,663 that he grabbed her. 513 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:30,901 She had also managed to grab a rifle, at that point, 514 00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:35,038 she says that stephen delicino grabbed the rifle 515 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,110 and that there was a struggle, that he was grabbing her legs. 516 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:41,378 - ♪ 517 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:42,913 - at one point during the struggle, 518 00:29:42,915 --> 00:29:46,650 stephen was down on his knees, she was above him, 519 00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:49,119 and she picked up the rifle, 520 00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,121 and she shot him in the head with the rifle. 521 00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:52,523 - [gunshot] 522 00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:59,146 - she told me that he ended up 523 00:29:59,148 --> 00:30:03,033 dying in the barn area. 524 00:30:03,035 --> 00:30:05,486 Stephen was somebody that was closer to her, 525 00:30:05,488 --> 00:30:07,704 and, you know, she didn't-- wasn't happy 526 00:30:07,706 --> 00:30:09,990 that this had happened to him. 527 00:30:09,992 --> 00:30:13,944 - She said after that occurred, she was pretty distraught, 528 00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:15,712 she went into the other room to lay down, 529 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:18,715 to kind of think about things. 530 00:30:21,303 --> 00:30:23,720 - Narrator: She says that while she was laying down, 531 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:28,225 she realized she made a terrible mistake. 532 00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:30,727 - A little while later, she went back out, 533 00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:35,849 and she found that the pigs had actually gotten in stephen 534 00:30:35,851 --> 00:30:40,404 and actually started to lick some of the wounds 535 00:30:40,406 --> 00:30:42,606 that he had on his head 536 00:30:42,608 --> 00:30:45,976 and were beginning to eat him at that point. 537 00:30:45,978 --> 00:30:49,312 - Allan: She claimed the pigs then dragged his body back 538 00:30:49,314 --> 00:30:54,685 into the pigsty area where she again, 539 00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:57,421 left his body out there for a number of days 540 00:30:57,423 --> 00:31:01,592 for them to consume, and when she returned, 541 00:31:01,594 --> 00:31:04,511 the only parts of his body that were left 542 00:31:04,513 --> 00:31:09,433 were basically the skull, some of the bones, and his spine. 543 00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:13,637 - Narrator: Susan says two weeks later, 544 00:31:13,639 --> 00:31:18,942 she buried what was left of stephen's body behind her barn. 545 00:31:18,944 --> 00:31:21,678 But if her self-defense story was true, 546 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,033 detectives wonder why she hadn't called police. 547 00:31:26,035 --> 00:31:29,686 - Her excuse really at that point for not telling anyone 548 00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:32,289 is because she was worried that the authorities would come 549 00:31:32,291 --> 00:31:35,542 and euthanize all the pigs. 550 00:31:35,544 --> 00:31:37,244 - Julie: Susan specifically told us 551 00:31:37,246 --> 00:31:41,415 that she valued the lives of animals over people. 552 00:31:41,417 --> 00:31:42,633 - Eric: I asked her, you know, 553 00:31:42,635 --> 00:31:44,534 "are we going to find more people? 554 00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:46,887 Have you done anything like this to anyone else?" 555 00:31:46,889 --> 00:31:48,255 you know, all that. 556 00:31:48,257 --> 00:31:51,558 And she told me that if she told me about the 17 others 557 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,077 that she would spend the rest of her life in jail. 558 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,446 - ♪ 559 00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:58,432 - that is what cause us concern, that indeed, 560 00:31:58,434 --> 00:32:02,352 we were dealing with a serial killer. 561 00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:08,592 - Narrator: Detectives arrest susan monica 562 00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:10,560 for two counts of murder 563 00:32:10,562 --> 00:32:16,199 and two counts of abuse of a corpse. 564 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:20,304 The next day, January 11, 2014, 565 00:32:20,306 --> 00:32:23,073 dozens of csi agents and officers 566 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:26,126 descend on susan's remote farm 567 00:32:26,128 --> 00:32:29,680 where they quickly find the rest of robert haney's remains 568 00:32:29,682 --> 00:32:32,115 in the barn. 569 00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:36,019 - You could not smell them because the overall smell was, 570 00:32:36,021 --> 00:32:38,355 like I said, not pleasant at all. 571 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:41,458 We would have never located these 572 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:45,963 because we would not likely have been searching that area. 573 00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:51,168 - These are black garbage bags, contained his head, 574 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:57,074 and other bags contained other body parts, just decayed. 575 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:05,248 We began the large-scale search of her property, 576 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:10,687 and that involved having an excavator to dig holes 577 00:33:10,689 --> 00:33:16,393 where we thought we may find the body of stephen delicino. 578 00:33:16,395 --> 00:33:21,231 - Human bones were seen actually in the bucket of the backhoe, 579 00:33:21,233 --> 00:33:24,134 that was stopped immediately. 580 00:33:24,136 --> 00:33:28,438 Those were the remains of stephen delicino. 581 00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:33,877 - Narrator: Detectives reach out to both families 582 00:33:33,879 --> 00:33:36,980 to break the tragic news. 583 00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:39,583 - Jesse: I was really sad about the whole situation. 584 00:33:39,585 --> 00:33:44,087 I would never expect something like, uh, 585 00:33:44,089 --> 00:33:47,323 for what happened to my dad and what all went on, 586 00:33:47,325 --> 00:33:49,726 it was just unbelievable. 587 00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:54,598 - He was a wanderer, he would disappear and come back, 588 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,516 and that's just the person he was. 589 00:33:56,518 --> 00:34:00,270 Nobody thought that anything happened to him, 590 00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:03,407 and there was no real way to get a hold of my dad, 591 00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:08,111 we didn't think, "oh, years of not hearing from him, 592 00:34:08,113 --> 00:34:09,413 he must be dead." 593 00:34:09,415 --> 00:34:12,749 we just thought maybe he moved on to something else. 594 00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:16,703 But I did feel like a connection was going to happen 595 00:34:16,705 --> 00:34:18,221 with me and my dad. 596 00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:22,626 I'm very angry that I was robbed of this. 597 00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:27,064 Why would somebody do that to him, in that way? 598 00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:28,432 - Narrator: Both sets of remains 599 00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:32,052 are sent to the lab for analysis. 600 00:34:32,054 --> 00:34:38,008 - Eric: The forensics for both men matched her final stories 601 00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:39,893 about how they died, 602 00:34:39,895 --> 00:34:42,813 both robert haney and stephen delicino 603 00:34:42,815 --> 00:34:47,317 died from gunshot wounds to the head. 604 00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:52,105 - Forensic examination was able to show us places on the bones 605 00:34:52,107 --> 00:34:56,409 that indicated consumption by animals. 606 00:34:56,411 --> 00:34:58,779 - Narrator: Detectives continue their search efforts 607 00:34:58,781 --> 00:35:04,734 to determine if there are more bodies on susan's property. 608 00:35:04,736 --> 00:35:09,739 - We had a big excavator working just around the clock, you know, 609 00:35:09,741 --> 00:35:12,408 every day, the whole time, digging holes. 610 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:16,012 We dug approximately a 136 holes, 611 00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:20,484 one of the holes was the size of an olympic swimming pool. 612 00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:23,987 - Narrator: As police dig, they find chilling traces 613 00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:27,691 of other potential victims on the compound. 614 00:35:27,693 --> 00:35:30,093 - She had a whole back room 615 00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:34,314 full of personal belongings from people, um, 616 00:35:34,316 --> 00:35:36,149 furniture and televisions, 617 00:35:36,151 --> 00:35:41,471 all stacked in a area near the pigs, in the barn. 618 00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:47,127 - There was a large pile of shoes on the property. 619 00:35:47,129 --> 00:35:49,445 I think at that point, in our minds, 620 00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:51,948 we were thinking, "how many other people are out here?" 621 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:55,285 - ♪ 622 00:35:55,287 --> 00:35:57,220 - narrator: Coming up, 623 00:35:57,222 --> 00:36:02,509 a new witness comes forward with a terrifying testimony. 624 00:36:02,511 --> 00:36:04,194 - Jordan: She's not what she says she is, 625 00:36:04,196 --> 00:36:07,147 she's not just defending herself. 626 00:36:07,149 --> 00:36:09,149 She killed people on purpose. 627 00:36:09,151 --> 00:36:11,768 - That definitely kind of shook the courtroom up a little bit. 628 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,823 - ♪ 629 00:36:40,097 --> 00:36:42,465 - ♪ 630 00:36:45,837 --> 00:36:48,805 - narrator: In January of 2014, 631 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:53,910 susan monica stands accused of murdering her two handymen, 632 00:36:53,912 --> 00:36:58,114 robert haney and stephen delicino. 633 00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:01,635 And there could be more victims. 634 00:37:01,637 --> 00:37:03,970 - I think there were approximately 400 bones 635 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:05,472 that we found on the surface 636 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,960 that were later determined to be animal and not human. 637 00:37:09,962 --> 00:37:11,795 - Mark: Much to everybody's surprise, 638 00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:15,015 no other bodies were found on susan monica's property, 639 00:37:15,017 --> 00:37:19,102 and there was no sign of human remains. 640 00:37:19,104 --> 00:37:22,372 - We did have to look into susan's past, 641 00:37:22,374 --> 00:37:25,659 identify any people who had stayed on her property 642 00:37:25,661 --> 00:37:27,977 over the years, and there were quite a few. 643 00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:30,030 But we were able to track them all down 644 00:37:30,032 --> 00:37:33,016 and confirm that they were still alive. 645 00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:36,486 - ♪ 646 00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:39,089 - narrator: On April 15, 2015, 647 00:37:39,091 --> 00:37:43,727 susan monica's trial gets underway. 648 00:37:43,729 --> 00:37:48,665 - Every time I went into the court of the trials, 649 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,768 I just seen susan monica, it was pretty hard. 650 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:54,688 - ♪ 651 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:56,606 - narrator: In their opening statements, 652 00:37:56,608 --> 00:38:00,176 prosecutors assert susan monica killed her employees 653 00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:02,579 during two heated arguments 654 00:38:02,581 --> 00:38:07,083 and then fed their bodies to her beloved pigs. 655 00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:11,187 - Sean: Susan did have a short temper, for certain, 656 00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:12,922 for some of her workers. 657 00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:14,457 I don't think killing somebody 658 00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:17,877 was any different than shooting a pig for her. 659 00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:21,231 - Eric: Susan monica is an... 660 00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:24,634 Intelligent, calculated, 661 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:28,705 woman who knew exactly what she was doing. 662 00:38:28,707 --> 00:38:34,561 - That made me sick--just sick to find out that she shot him 663 00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:37,647 and fed him to the pigs. 664 00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:41,017 He didn't deserve that, not robert. 665 00:38:41,019 --> 00:38:42,452 No one deserves that. 666 00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:47,223 - ♪ 667 00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:49,442 - narrator: After laying out their evidence, 668 00:38:49,444 --> 00:38:53,963 prosecutors present a surprise witness: Jordan farris, 669 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:57,100 susan's former cellmate that she met in custody 670 00:38:57,102 --> 00:38:59,402 while awaiting trial. 671 00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:03,790 - Susan told me that robert and her got into an argument 672 00:39:03,792 --> 00:39:09,679 because he was drunk, and he was trying to come on to her. 673 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:12,515 She shot him and then pushed him into the pigpen. 674 00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:15,268 She told me that when she pushed him in, 675 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:19,222 he was still struggling, and the pigs started to devour him. 676 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:22,125 She was whining and crying, and screaming. 677 00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:26,196 After she told me, she just chuckled really creepily, 678 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:31,134 like--almost like the chills made you know it was real. 679 00:39:33,338 --> 00:39:36,539 - Narrator: To prove that susan killed without remorse, 680 00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:38,875 jordan shows the court a birthday card 681 00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:43,079 that susan gave her when they were cellmates in 2015. 682 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:47,550 - She signed it, "from the sweetest murderer 683 00:39:47,552 --> 00:39:50,553 in jackson county, susan b. Monica." 684 00:39:50,555 --> 00:39:54,057 - that definitely kind of, shook the courtroom up a little bit. 685 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:55,725 - She's not what she says she is, 686 00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:58,561 she's not just defending herself. 687 00:39:58,563 --> 00:40:00,480 She killed people on purpose. 688 00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:05,568 - ♪ 689 00:40:05,570 --> 00:40:06,703 - narrator: However, 690 00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:08,772 the defense claims that the birthday card 691 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:12,776 was just a poorly timed joke. 692 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:15,645 - It's consistent with susan's personality 693 00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:19,982 and what she would describe as her strange sense of humor. 694 00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:25,655 Susan monica will make comments and some are very inappropriate. 695 00:40:25,657 --> 00:40:29,459 - During her interviews, she had often joked in the past 696 00:40:29,461 --> 00:40:33,129 about allowing her pigs to consume humans. 697 00:40:37,436 --> 00:40:40,703 - Narrator: The defense argues that susan killed only in 698 00:40:40,705 --> 00:40:45,024 self-defense, or in the case of robert haney, for mercy. 699 00:40:47,212 --> 00:40:49,412 Susan is so sure of her innocence 700 00:40:49,414 --> 00:40:52,949 that she insists on not only testifying, 701 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:55,885 but representing herself. 702 00:40:55,887 --> 00:40:57,787 - Allan: In addition to her defense attorneys, 703 00:40:57,789 --> 00:41:01,875 susan monica wanted to also question witnesses 704 00:41:01,877 --> 00:41:04,794 and conduct cross examination 705 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:08,598 and make statements to the jury on her own. 706 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,901 - Susan is fairly narcissistic, 707 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:15,221 and the delusional part is just believing 708 00:41:15,223 --> 00:41:16,639 that she knows more than everyone 709 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:19,375 and that she can do it better than anyone. 710 00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:22,312 - Allan: Susan monica would also have outbursts 711 00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:24,213 where she would suddenly stand up 712 00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:28,735 and start making statements or answering questions. 713 00:41:28,737 --> 00:41:32,572 The trial basically was a bit of a circus. 714 00:41:35,059 --> 00:41:36,759 - Narrator: Susan's theatrics 715 00:41:36,761 --> 00:41:39,128 don't impress the jury. 716 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:43,333 On April 21, after just an hour of deliberation, 717 00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:48,788 they return with a verdict: Guilty on all counts. 718 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:53,443 - Murder in oregon carries a life in prison penalty. 719 00:41:53,445 --> 00:41:55,879 She's sentenced to a total of 50 years 720 00:41:55,881 --> 00:41:59,516 before she can even be considered for parole. 721 00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:05,138 - It was a little more of a relief, when we got the verdict, 722 00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:08,358 knowing she's going to rot in jail for the rest of her life. 723 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,929 - ♪ 724 00:42:12,931 --> 00:42:15,298 - narrator: Though the trial comes to a close, 725 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:18,635 law enforcement is still left to wonder: 726 00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:23,873 Have all of susan's victims really been accounted for? 727 00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:25,308 - My take on what she told me 728 00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:28,828 about the possibility of 17 other people being there was 729 00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:30,163 that it was true. 730 00:42:30,165 --> 00:42:34,450 I believe 100% that there are more people out there. 731 00:42:34,452 --> 00:42:37,453 - This is the strangest murder I've ever heard about. 732 00:42:37,455 --> 00:42:41,724 I've had nightmares about this case for years. 733 00:42:41,726 --> 00:42:45,028 I think this probably impacted the detectives 734 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:46,462 even more than it did me 735 00:42:46,464 --> 00:42:50,633 because they were involved in the actual hands on 736 00:42:50,635 --> 00:42:52,835 searches and discoveries. 737 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:57,840 - Narrator: For the families of robert haney 738 00:42:57,842 --> 00:43:03,029 and stephen delicino, the nightmares will never end. 739 00:43:03,031 --> 00:43:05,148 - My dad was a good, humble person 740 00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:08,351 that shouldn't have been murdered. 741 00:43:08,353 --> 00:43:12,322 At least he's able to finally rest in peace. 742 00:43:12,324 --> 00:43:14,991 - She's changed so many peoples lives 743 00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:19,362 and taken away two people that were loved. 744 00:43:19,364 --> 00:43:23,533 I hope she's remorseful for what she did 745 00:43:23,535 --> 00:43:26,102 and that, maybe one day, 746 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:30,023 she can find it in herself to forgive herself, 747 00:43:30,025 --> 00:43:33,509 and I hope one day I can find it to forgive her. 748 00:43:33,511 --> 00:43:39,532 - ♪