1 00:00:02,410 --> 00:00:05,170 - FEMALE NARRATOR: On the heels of divorce and disappointment, 2 00:00:05,247 --> 00:00:07,622 they found each other. 3 00:00:07,699 --> 00:00:10,884 - When she got engaged to him, she was just beaming. 4 00:00:13,589 --> 00:00:15,514 - NARRATOR: Until one fall afternoon, 5 00:00:15,591 --> 00:00:18,017 when she suddenly goes missing. 6 00:00:18,093 --> 00:00:19,926 - DAN: She had not shown up for church, 7 00:00:20,003 --> 00:00:23,522 and into the evening, she didn't show up. 8 00:00:23,599 --> 00:00:26,692 - PAUL: There was a hole in the wall over the phone. 9 00:00:26,769 --> 00:00:30,812 There was actually some hair around the hole. 10 00:00:30,889 --> 00:00:32,698 - DAN: There was a bed and a bed frame 11 00:00:32,775 --> 00:00:35,868 that was missing from the basement of the house. 12 00:00:35,944 --> 00:00:37,944 - DANIEL: The feeling, um, almost from the beginning was 13 00:00:38,021 --> 00:00:39,913 this was not a missing person's case. 14 00:00:41,858 --> 00:00:46,161 - NARRATOR: Detectives uncover a suspect with an ax to grind. 15 00:00:46,238 --> 00:00:47,880 - She could be very ornery, 16 00:00:47,956 --> 00:00:49,664 especially if she'd been drinking. 17 00:00:49,741 --> 00:00:52,667 - That just caused a worse row between them. 18 00:00:52,744 --> 00:00:54,836 - It's a little bit suspicious that it took 19 00:00:54,913 --> 00:00:58,724 until late in the evening for him to call the police. 20 00:00:58,801 --> 00:01:01,343 - Things just started to spin out of control. 21 00:01:01,419 --> 00:01:04,888 - NARRATOR: And an unlikely accomplice leads investigators 22 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,290 to the truth. 23 00:01:06,292 --> 00:01:08,058 - DANIEL: Once the gate opened, it just opened. 24 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:09,902 Everything came out. 25 00:01:09,978 --> 00:01:12,687 - DAN: And I was told also in the house was his daughter. 26 00:01:12,764 --> 00:01:16,066 That immediately seemed odd to me. 27 00:01:16,077 --> 00:01:18,193 - GARY: She just couldn't handle somebody sleeping 28 00:01:18,270 --> 00:01:20,654 in the bed she used to sleep in. 29 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:21,988 - DANIEL: There was a catastrophic house fire 30 00:01:22,065 --> 00:01:24,241 where someone had died in the house. 31 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:26,576 - HEATHER: This obviously was a story of jealousy. 32 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:29,037 A murder of jealousy. 33 00:01:29,114 --> 00:01:30,238 - What's the old saying, 34 00:01:30,316 --> 00:01:32,883 "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? 35 00:01:37,172 --> 00:01:46,855 - ♪ 36 00:01:48,425 --> 00:01:52,986 - NARRATOR: October 25, 1998. Jerome County, Idaho. 37 00:01:54,189 --> 00:01:57,783 It's just after 11 p.m. on a chilly fall night 38 00:01:57,860 --> 00:01:59,618 when the Jerome County Sheriff's Office 39 00:01:59,695 --> 00:02:03,113 gets a call from local man, Milo Ross. 40 00:02:03,124 --> 00:02:07,626 Milo is concerned about his fiancee, Meta Jones. 41 00:02:07,703 --> 00:02:11,630 - Milo Ross had reported his fiancee missing. 42 00:02:11,707 --> 00:02:14,133 She had not shown up for church. 43 00:02:14,209 --> 00:02:17,752 She also didn't show up for the family dinner after. 44 00:02:17,829 --> 00:02:19,379 - NARRATOR: Additionally, Milo says 45 00:02:19,456 --> 00:02:23,142 he and his teenage son, Paul, found signs inside the home 46 00:02:23,218 --> 00:02:25,385 that something is amiss. 47 00:02:25,462 --> 00:02:26,478 - GARY: He called them to say, 48 00:02:26,555 --> 00:02:28,930 "Hey, we smell cleaner in the house 49 00:02:29,007 --> 00:02:30,473 "and we think we found a bullet hole 50 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:32,025 or something that looks like blood." 51 00:02:34,304 --> 00:02:36,488 - NARRATOR: When officers arrive at the home, 52 00:02:36,565 --> 00:02:39,992 Milo and Paul lead them to the dining room. 53 00:02:40,068 --> 00:02:41,610 - There was some carpet that looked like it had 54 00:02:41,686 --> 00:02:44,237 been recently cleaned and was still wet. 55 00:02:44,314 --> 00:02:47,616 - There was a hole in the wall over the phone. 56 00:02:47,692 --> 00:02:51,786 There was actually some hair around the hole. 57 00:02:51,863 --> 00:02:54,840 - DAN: It was about five and a half feet up the wall. 58 00:02:54,917 --> 00:02:58,084 You could see the brass coloration, something 59 00:02:58,161 --> 00:03:02,222 inside the hole that looked like it was a, uh, bullet. 60 00:03:05,093 --> 00:03:07,010 - Things like that, obviously, as an investigator, 61 00:03:07,021 --> 00:03:10,689 would raise some pretty big red flags 62 00:03:10,766 --> 00:03:12,524 - GARY: They knew, based on the evidence 63 00:03:12,601 --> 00:03:14,434 that they were seeing, there was some foul play 64 00:03:14,511 --> 00:03:16,361 involved, obviously. 65 00:03:16,438 --> 00:03:19,364 - NARRATOR: Officers immediately summon homicide detectives 66 00:03:19,441 --> 00:03:20,924 to the scene. 67 00:03:24,205 --> 00:03:27,614 When investigators arrive, they begin collecting details 68 00:03:27,691 --> 00:03:31,493 about the missing woman, Meta Jones. 69 00:03:31,569 --> 00:03:33,045 - DAN: I met with Milo Ross. 70 00:03:33,121 --> 00:03:36,790 He was concerned about his fiancee being missing. 71 00:03:36,866 --> 00:03:39,876 You kind of have to assume that you're looking at something 72 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:41,303 more than a missing person. 73 00:03:45,875 --> 00:03:47,676 - NARRATOR: Meta Jones spent her childhood 74 00:03:47,752 --> 00:03:51,396 on an idyllic farm in southern Idaho. 75 00:03:51,473 --> 00:03:54,233 - HEATHER: She was born in 1952. 76 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:58,311 She grew up on her family ranch in Lake Channel. 77 00:03:58,388 --> 00:04:02,649 When she was growing up, she liked to obviously 78 00:04:02,726 --> 00:04:06,236 be outside with her family, tending her ranch. 79 00:04:06,247 --> 00:04:08,863 - NARRATOR: Meta thrived in her rural upbringing, 80 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:12,242 but struggled to find fulfillment in her love life. 81 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:15,254 After two marriages led to two divorces, 82 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:19,424 Meta focused her energy on raising her four children. 83 00:04:19,501 --> 00:04:21,876 - HEATHER: As a mother, she was very caring to her children. 84 00:04:21,953 --> 00:04:24,504 Her kids were always involved in sports in high school 85 00:04:24,581 --> 00:04:25,747 and she never missed a game. 86 00:04:25,824 --> 00:04:28,341 She always had two to three different jobs 87 00:04:28,418 --> 00:04:31,395 trying to make the best for her kids and her family. 88 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:37,058 - NARRATOR: In 1997, 45-year-old Meta met 89 00:04:37,135 --> 00:04:41,113 a handsome new suitor: Milo Ross. 90 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:44,607 - HEATHER: She was working actually as a waitress 91 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:47,786 at the Hill Top Café in American Falls, 92 00:04:47,863 --> 00:04:51,531 and Milo was managing trucks at that time, 93 00:04:51,608 --> 00:04:54,743 and they crossed paths at that café. 94 00:04:54,819 --> 00:05:00,632 - He's quiet. He has the appeal of authority. 95 00:05:00,709 --> 00:05:03,126 He doesn't need to say anything, he was a boss, 96 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:06,096 you know what I mean? We always showed him respect. 97 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:10,133 - NARRATOR: Milo, a devout Mormon, 98 00:05:10,144 --> 00:05:12,477 confided in Meta that he was going 99 00:05:12,554 --> 00:05:15,055 through a difficult divorce. 100 00:05:15,131 --> 00:05:19,392 After 17 years and two kids, he and his soon-to-be-ex, 101 00:05:19,469 --> 00:05:23,071 Sandra Jonas, had reached the end of their marriage. 102 00:05:26,142 --> 00:05:28,327 Sandra was Milo's second wife, 103 00:05:28,403 --> 00:05:33,165 and when they originally met, Sandra was in her mid-20s. 104 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:35,283 - JACKIE: She had just gotten out of the army 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,502 and she needed a job, and I was getting ready 106 00:05:37,579 --> 00:05:38,912 to leave for college. 107 00:05:38,988 --> 00:05:41,173 So I asked her if she wanted to take my job, 108 00:05:41,249 --> 00:05:45,085 and then I took her out and I introduced her to Milo. 109 00:05:45,161 --> 00:05:49,422 He was my boss. And then I asked Milo if she could take my job. 110 00:05:49,499 --> 00:05:54,019 They began to like each other, spent time together. 111 00:05:54,096 --> 00:05:56,021 - CINDY: He's a big, tall, good-looking dude. 112 00:05:56,098 --> 00:05:58,515 And she was the little, short lady, 113 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:01,026 the stick of dynamite, you know? 114 00:06:01,103 --> 00:06:03,070 She liked him. [chuckles] 115 00:06:06,775 --> 00:06:10,369 - NARRATOR: Both Sandra and Milo grew up in the Mormon church, 116 00:06:10,445 --> 00:06:13,205 but as things grew serious between the young couple, 117 00:06:13,281 --> 00:06:16,449 Sandra made it clear that religion wouldn't be a part 118 00:06:16,526 --> 00:06:18,326 of their future. 119 00:06:18,403 --> 00:06:20,045 - PAUL: It was all witchery to her. 120 00:06:20,122 --> 00:06:23,540 It was it was makeup to try and make people feel good 121 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:27,961 about the terribleness and the awkwardness of life. 122 00:06:28,037 --> 00:06:30,889 - NARRATOR: In 1981, 27-year-old Sandra 123 00:06:30,966 --> 00:06:34,217 and 38-year-old Milo married. 124 00:06:34,228 --> 00:06:38,346 - My parents were married on the 1st of May, 1981, 125 00:06:38,423 --> 00:06:39,889 in Elko, Nevada. 126 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:40,974 They went down and were married 127 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:42,725 in front of the Justice of the Peace. 128 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,394 - NARRATOR: Within a few years of marriage, 129 00:06:44,405 --> 00:06:47,397 Sandra and Milo had a son and daughter: 130 00:06:47,408 --> 00:06:49,315 Paul and Andra. 131 00:06:49,392 --> 00:06:53,319 When it came to parenting, Sandra took the driver's seat. 132 00:06:53,396 --> 00:06:55,080 - She was very strict. She was headstrong. 133 00:06:55,157 --> 00:06:58,908 She had a strong personality and when she gave a command 134 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,536 or a look, you obeyed. 135 00:07:01,613 --> 00:07:03,922 - NARRATOR: Sandra didn't sugarcoat her feeling 136 00:07:03,999 --> 00:07:06,332 about religion with her kids. 137 00:07:06,409 --> 00:07:08,427 - PAUL: If you brought up any sort of religious topic, 138 00:07:08,503 --> 00:07:10,929 she would just fly off the handle she'd berate 139 00:07:11,006 --> 00:07:12,472 and just ridicule. 140 00:07:14,435 --> 00:07:17,769 - NARRATOR: But Sandra couldn't stop Paul from growing curious 141 00:07:17,846 --> 00:07:20,555 about the church she abandoned. 142 00:07:20,632 --> 00:07:23,516 - PAUL: I started attending a church when I was about seven, 143 00:07:23,593 --> 00:07:25,110 going on eight years of age. 144 00:07:25,187 --> 00:07:27,279 And then, uh, some short time later, 145 00:07:27,355 --> 00:07:30,690 my father started going with us, with me and my sister. 146 00:07:30,767 --> 00:07:34,068 And then my mother put her foot down and said, "No more," 147 00:07:34,145 --> 00:07:36,404 and so, we stopped going to church. 148 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:38,623 - NARRATOR: When Paul was in his early teens, 149 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,293 he sought out the church once again. 150 00:07:41,369 --> 00:07:44,129 Milo supported him, but this time, 151 00:07:44,206 --> 00:07:47,624 they hid their Sunday outings from Sandra. 152 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:51,136 - JACKIE: Milo and the kids wanted to go to church 153 00:07:51,213 --> 00:07:55,131 and she forbid them to go, but they went anyway. 154 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:58,384 They had to sneak-- sneak off to go. 155 00:07:58,461 --> 00:08:00,595 - PAUL: I think a lot of things just sort of started to spin 156 00:08:00,672 --> 00:08:02,814 out of control in our home. 157 00:08:02,891 --> 00:08:07,152 It was very tumultuous after about 13 or 14 years of age. 158 00:08:07,229 --> 00:08:08,937 - NARRATOR: Over the next few years, 159 00:08:09,013 --> 00:08:12,491 tensions between Sandra and Milo grew. 160 00:08:12,567 --> 00:08:17,070 - PAUL: That finally sort of boiled up into about 1997 or so. 161 00:08:17,146 --> 00:08:20,207 I graduated from high school, my parents separated. 162 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,495 - NARRATOR: While finalizing his divorce from Sandra, 163 00:08:25,506 --> 00:08:28,790 Milo's new friendship with waitress Meta Jones 164 00:08:28,866 --> 00:08:31,167 was a breath of fresh air. 165 00:08:31,178 --> 00:08:32,961 - PAUL: My dad had first told me about Meta 166 00:08:33,037 --> 00:08:35,463 when I was at college at Utah State, 167 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:37,632 and I had learned that, you know, he had taken 168 00:08:37,709 --> 00:08:40,185 an interest in her, but he didn't want to have 169 00:08:40,262 --> 00:08:43,638 any view of impropriety or inappropriateness. 170 00:08:43,715 --> 00:08:47,308 And so, he was going to maintain his arm length. 171 00:08:47,385 --> 00:08:49,519 - NARRATOR: Milo took Meta under his wing, 172 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:54,023 and helped the single mother of four secure a stable job. 173 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:55,692 - She actually worked with Milo. 174 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:59,538 She was a dispatcher for Circle A dispatching trucks. 175 00:08:59,614 --> 00:09:01,373 - PAUL: I got to know Meta quite a bit more. 176 00:09:01,449 --> 00:09:04,617 I thought she was a great woman, just very, very kind. 177 00:09:04,694 --> 00:09:07,120 There was nothing about her that I didn't like. 178 00:09:07,196 --> 00:09:09,539 - NARRATOR: It wasn't long before Meta and Milo 179 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:11,708 started a relationship. 180 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:16,337 - Meta's dream in life was to, um, have a good life 181 00:09:16,414 --> 00:09:19,224 with a good man and raise her kids that way. 182 00:09:19,301 --> 00:09:22,051 So, I'm assuming that she saw in him that that's 183 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:23,395 what she would have with him. 184 00:09:25,048 --> 00:09:26,973 - NARRATOR: In May of 1998, 185 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:30,351 Milo's divorce from Sandra was official. 186 00:09:30,428 --> 00:09:33,071 Around the same time, Meta found herself 187 00:09:33,148 --> 00:09:35,740 in need of a place to stay. 188 00:09:35,817 --> 00:09:37,409 - PAUL: At some point, she was having some remodeling 189 00:09:37,485 --> 00:09:39,077 done on her home, and so she ended up staying 190 00:09:39,154 --> 00:09:42,363 in--in the guest bedroom in our house. 191 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,749 - NARRATOR: The couple agreed they wouldn't share a bed 192 00:09:44,826 --> 00:09:46,418 before marriage. 193 00:09:46,494 --> 00:09:49,871 In October, Milo decided he wanted that day 194 00:09:49,947 --> 00:09:52,665 to come sooner rather than later. 195 00:09:52,742 --> 00:09:54,593 - PAUL: He pulled me aside and showed me a ring 196 00:09:54,669 --> 00:09:57,262 that he had purchased, and that he was planning 197 00:09:57,339 --> 00:10:00,506 on inviting Meta to marry him. 198 00:10:00,583 --> 00:10:03,092 - NARRATOR: Milo proposed on October 23, 199 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:05,770 and Meta said yes. 200 00:10:05,847 --> 00:10:08,765 - HEATHER: When she got engaged to him, she was just beaming. 201 00:10:08,775 --> 00:10:10,892 A lot of people would say that she was the happiest 202 00:10:10,968 --> 00:10:13,111 that she was ever...with Milo. 203 00:10:15,357 --> 00:10:17,616 - NARRATOR: Just two days after their engagement, 204 00:10:17,692 --> 00:10:20,360 Meta spent the morning preparing a pot roast 205 00:10:20,436 --> 00:10:25,114 for a mission send-off for her soon-to-be stepson, Paul. 206 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,959 She urged Milo and the kids to head on to the church 207 00:10:28,036 --> 00:10:30,244 while she finished up at home. 208 00:10:30,321 --> 00:10:31,704 - GARY: He was going, I think, to England, 209 00:10:31,781 --> 00:10:33,298 on a two-year Mormon mission, 210 00:10:33,375 --> 00:10:36,134 and it was customary for the LDS religion 211 00:10:36,211 --> 00:10:38,795 to have a farewell at their church 212 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:41,881 and have family and friends over to listen to him speak, 213 00:10:41,958 --> 00:10:44,092 to kind of give his farewell. 214 00:10:44,168 --> 00:10:46,636 - DAN: She was going to meet them at the church. 215 00:10:46,647 --> 00:10:49,722 She had stayed behind to start cooking food 216 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:52,484 for the dinner after church. 217 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,736 - NARRATOR: But Meta never showed. 218 00:10:56,064 --> 00:10:58,823 Milo tells detectives that upon returning home 219 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:01,159 to check on Meta, he began noticing 220 00:11:01,236 --> 00:11:04,320 a number of worrisome clues. 221 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,114 - PAUL: The roast was still in the oven, 222 00:11:06,190 --> 00:11:08,282 and it had completely burned to a crisp, 223 00:11:08,359 --> 00:11:09,501 which was not like Meta. 224 00:11:09,577 --> 00:11:12,671 My dad said, "Something's just not right." 225 00:11:12,747 --> 00:11:16,165 - NARRATOR: Based on Milo's observations and their own, 226 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:19,552 Jerome County sheriff's detectives fear the worst. 227 00:11:20,755 --> 00:11:22,013 - GARY: They noticed what they thought looked 228 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:24,349 like a bullet hole in the wall, 229 00:11:24,426 --> 00:11:26,926 and a little bit of blood splatter on the wall. 230 00:11:27,003 --> 00:11:29,521 It smelled of cleaning solution. 231 00:11:29,597 --> 00:11:31,597 - DANIEL: The feeling, um, almost from the beginning was, 232 00:11:31,674 --> 00:11:33,525 this was not a missing person's case. 233 00:11:33,601 --> 00:11:35,694 We were almost immediately convinced 234 00:11:35,770 --> 00:11:37,195 we were looking for a body. 235 00:11:40,224 --> 00:11:42,867 - NARRATOR: Coming up, detectives try to make sense 236 00:11:42,944 --> 00:11:46,154 of more bizarre clues. 237 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:48,781 - There was a bed and a bed frame that was missing 238 00:11:48,858 --> 00:11:50,542 from the basement of the house. 239 00:11:50,618 --> 00:11:53,536 - NARRATOR: And a snap judgment pays off. 240 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:55,204 - And that's one of the smartest decisions 241 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:56,548 I've made in my career. 242 00:11:59,410 --> 00:12:02,262 - ♪ 243 00:12:06,784 --> 00:12:09,185 - ♪ 244 00:12:12,974 --> 00:12:16,142 - NARRATOR: Just two days after accepting a marriage proposal 245 00:12:16,219 --> 00:12:18,478 from her boyfriend, Milo Ross, 246 00:12:18,554 --> 00:12:22,482 46-year-old Meta Jones is missing. 247 00:12:22,558 --> 00:12:24,734 - She was very excited, she was telling everybody 248 00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:28,738 that she got engaged and how excited she was. 249 00:12:28,749 --> 00:12:31,666 She loved Milo. She was very happy with him. 250 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:36,755 - NARRATOR: Around 1:30 a.m., Jerome County investigators 251 00:12:36,831 --> 00:12:40,041 gather at Meta's home to speak with her fiance 252 00:12:40,117 --> 00:12:41,876 and his children. 253 00:12:41,953 --> 00:12:45,263 - DAN: I met with Milo Ross and his son, Paul, 254 00:12:45,340 --> 00:12:48,674 and I was told also in the house was his daughter. 255 00:12:48,751 --> 00:12:51,770 Uh, she was 16, 17 years old at that time. 256 00:12:51,846 --> 00:12:53,763 Her name was Andra Ross, 257 00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:57,391 and that she was sick and was in bed. 258 00:12:57,468 --> 00:12:59,519 - She was in her bedroom downstairs, 259 00:12:59,595 --> 00:13:02,021 and she told her dad she was feeling ill 260 00:13:02,098 --> 00:13:04,232 and didn't wanna talk. 261 00:13:04,308 --> 00:13:06,359 - DAN: That immediately seemed odd to me. 262 00:13:06,435 --> 00:13:10,288 If your soon-to-be stepmother's missing 263 00:13:10,365 --> 00:13:11,790 and you just go to bed. 264 00:13:11,866 --> 00:13:14,575 The police are there, lots of activity, 265 00:13:14,652 --> 00:13:16,869 I would think if it wasn't something life and death, 266 00:13:16,946 --> 00:13:19,881 she would probably be out there seeing what was going on. 267 00:13:22,877 --> 00:13:25,637 - NARRATOR: With Andra self-sequestered to her room, 268 00:13:25,713 --> 00:13:30,475 detectives try to feel out Milo and 19-year-old Paul. 269 00:13:30,552 --> 00:13:32,635 - DANIEL: Paul was pretty quiet most of my conversation 270 00:13:32,646 --> 00:13:36,430 with Milo. Milo seemed just, you know, 271 00:13:36,507 --> 00:13:39,141 appropriately concerned and kind of lost and confused 272 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,561 about things going on and, you know, 273 00:13:41,637 --> 00:13:43,488 as distracted as you would expect. 274 00:13:44,807 --> 00:13:47,325 - NARRATOR: Paul explains that when Meta didn't show up 275 00:13:47,402 --> 00:13:49,902 for his mission trip send-off at the church, 276 00:13:49,979 --> 00:13:53,998 they considered the possibility that she'd gone into work. 277 00:13:54,075 --> 00:13:58,002 - She worked the graveyard shift and she did not show up to work. 278 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:01,956 And so they had called the house asking where Meta was... 279 00:14:02,033 --> 00:14:04,625 at 11 o'clock-- about 11:30. 280 00:14:04,702 --> 00:14:08,838 - DAN: Neither Milo nor Paul could really explain why 281 00:14:08,849 --> 00:14:11,591 she wouldn't show up or that she wouldn't come home 282 00:14:11,667 --> 00:14:14,927 that evening, go to work, all that. 283 00:14:15,004 --> 00:14:18,014 They were just kind of perplexed by the whole thing. 284 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:20,349 - PAUL: She was gonna come back for sacrament meeting, 285 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,642 but she never appeared. 286 00:14:21,719 --> 00:14:24,687 My sister was gonna come and she never showed up, 287 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:27,615 so we knew something was happening. 288 00:14:30,561 --> 00:14:33,037 - NARRATOR: Based on detectives' initial impression, 289 00:14:33,114 --> 00:14:36,949 Meta doesn't fit the typical profile of a runaway. 290 00:14:37,026 --> 00:14:41,045 - It's a little less common to have an adult turn up missing, 291 00:14:41,122 --> 00:14:44,874 and especially without some major event, you know, 292 00:14:44,885 --> 00:14:47,793 a fight with the husband or wife, or something like that 293 00:14:47,870 --> 00:14:50,630 that precedes them going missing. 294 00:14:50,706 --> 00:14:53,799 Losing a job, an event like that. 295 00:14:53,876 --> 00:14:58,062 There was no event. In fact, uh, she was engaged to be married. 296 00:14:58,139 --> 00:15:01,682 Her soon-to-be stepson was going on a mission for the church. 297 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,653 She had a job. Uh, no known reason for her to go missing. 298 00:15:09,725 --> 00:15:12,026 - NARRATOR: Detectives ask Milo and Paul to take a look 299 00:15:12,103 --> 00:15:14,737 around the house to see if anything is missing 300 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:16,656 or out of place. 301 00:15:16,732 --> 00:15:19,492 In the dining room, the father and son point out 302 00:15:19,568 --> 00:15:21,577 a few oddities. 303 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:23,996 - We realized that the newspapers-- 304 00:15:24,073 --> 00:15:26,999 the five or six newspapers that were on the dining room table 305 00:15:27,076 --> 00:15:29,919 were all gone and that the carpet underneath 306 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:33,389 the dining room table-- the throw rug--was also gone. 307 00:15:35,626 --> 00:15:37,760 - DAN: The other thing that we determined during 308 00:15:37,771 --> 00:15:41,555 the process of this is that there was a bed and a bed frame 309 00:15:41,632 --> 00:15:43,766 that was missing from the basement of the house. 310 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:49,230 We were told that that was where the victim had been sleeping. 311 00:15:49,306 --> 00:15:52,951 So, there's some question as to why that bed's missing. 312 00:15:53,027 --> 00:15:54,610 - NARRATOR: Why would an intruder take 313 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:57,121 such strangely specific items 314 00:15:57,198 --> 00:16:00,959 but leave actual valuables behind? 315 00:16:01,035 --> 00:16:04,370 In order to piece together what went on in Milo's house, 316 00:16:04,447 --> 00:16:09,133 investigators call on a mobile crime lab for assistance. 317 00:16:09,210 --> 00:16:12,086 - We're a very small organization, and we don't have 318 00:16:12,163 --> 00:16:16,215 crime scene techs, and we don't have people who do that. 319 00:16:16,292 --> 00:16:18,300 - NARRATOR: It will be morning before the crime lab 320 00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:22,054 makes the 100-mile drive from Pocatello. 321 00:16:22,131 --> 00:16:26,809 To preserve the evidence, detectives secure Milo's home. 322 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:29,821 - I made the decision that we were going to move everybody 323 00:16:29,897 --> 00:16:31,305 out of the house. 324 00:16:31,382 --> 00:16:34,567 We instructed them to just take a change of clothes 325 00:16:34,643 --> 00:16:36,986 and some personal items and everything else 326 00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:38,496 was to stay in the home. 327 00:16:38,573 --> 00:16:41,323 - PAUL: They were asking us to grab toothbrushes 328 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:44,785 and whatever else we needed to stay the night somewhere else. 329 00:16:44,862 --> 00:16:46,838 - NARRATOR: Milo gathers his family, 330 00:16:46,914 --> 00:16:49,915 including his 17-year-old daughter, Andra, 331 00:16:49,992 --> 00:16:52,677 who emerges from her room for the first time 332 00:16:52,754 --> 00:16:55,504 since detectives arrived. 333 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,348 - DANIEL: Extremely quiet, looking down, 334 00:16:57,425 --> 00:16:59,684 would not make eye contact with me at all. 335 00:16:59,761 --> 00:17:02,428 Her face was just as white as a sheet 336 00:17:02,505 --> 00:17:04,638 and I'd asked Milo about that again, 337 00:17:04,715 --> 00:17:07,016 and he said she'd been up throwing up most of the night, 338 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:09,444 had an upset stomach, didn't sleep at all. 339 00:17:12,181 --> 00:17:14,523 - NARRATOR: As the family prepares to leave, 340 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:18,778 Andra speaks up with a request for detectives. 341 00:17:18,854 --> 00:17:20,529 - DAN: The daughter, Andra, wanted to take 342 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,582 her pickup with her. 343 00:17:23,618 --> 00:17:26,285 I thought about it and I decided that, no, 344 00:17:26,362 --> 00:17:27,694 we would give everybody a ride. 345 00:17:27,772 --> 00:17:30,539 There would be no reason for them to have their cars, 346 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:32,875 so everything would stay on the property. 347 00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:35,878 - DANIEL: She was very insistent that she wanted her pickup. 348 00:17:35,889 --> 00:17:39,390 That was just one more thing that did not make any sense. 349 00:17:39,467 --> 00:17:41,175 The pickup was part of the crime scene, 350 00:17:41,252 --> 00:17:45,396 so we obviously decided not to release the pickup. 351 00:17:45,473 --> 00:17:47,389 - DAN: Nobody's a suspect at that point, 352 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,852 but we wanna control the scene, and Milo Ross agreed, 353 00:17:51,929 --> 00:17:54,989 and we arranged for a hotel room for the family. 354 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:00,486 - NARRATOR: The next morning, as detectives await 355 00:18:00,563 --> 00:18:02,822 the arrival of the mobile crime lab, 356 00:18:02,898 --> 00:18:06,918 they begin outreach in an attempt to find Meta. 357 00:18:06,994 --> 00:18:09,587 - DAN: Everybody pretty much were shocked that Meta 358 00:18:09,664 --> 00:18:11,422 would not show up for work, 359 00:18:11,499 --> 00:18:14,166 that she wouldn't have showed up at church, 360 00:18:14,243 --> 00:18:17,670 that her and Milo's relationship seemed to be pretty good, 361 00:18:17,746 --> 00:18:21,924 and that she was a good worker at her job, 362 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:24,102 and that she hadn't called in sick, 363 00:18:24,178 --> 00:18:26,762 never had a period of time where she just 364 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,597 didn't show up for work. 365 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:31,767 And all that was, uh, fairly early on. 366 00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:33,519 It fell in line with the fact that she didn't go missing 367 00:18:33,596 --> 00:18:34,862 on her own. 368 00:18:36,691 --> 00:18:40,776 - NARRATOR: Detectives also verify Milo's alibi. 369 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:44,122 - DAN: With Milo, it was fairly early on that his story 370 00:18:44,198 --> 00:18:46,699 of being in church, being at the dinner, 371 00:18:46,775 --> 00:18:48,626 he was never really alone. 372 00:18:48,703 --> 00:18:53,247 Some of Sandra's family saw him at the dinner. 373 00:18:53,324 --> 00:18:57,293 He and Paul were together at the house after the events. 374 00:18:57,303 --> 00:19:00,379 Andra came home a little bit later, she didn't go to church. 375 00:19:00,456 --> 00:19:03,299 We pretty much established a timeline for the movements 376 00:19:03,309 --> 00:19:06,477 of Milo and Paul during the course of the early part 377 00:19:06,554 --> 00:19:07,895 of the investigation. 378 00:19:10,174 --> 00:19:12,808 - NARRATOR: At 1 p.m. on October 27, 379 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:16,061 investigators get word that the crime lab has arrived 380 00:19:16,138 --> 00:19:17,730 at Milo's home. 381 00:19:17,806 --> 00:19:19,490 Partnering with the technicians, 382 00:19:19,567 --> 00:19:22,234 detectives search for new evidence. 383 00:19:22,311 --> 00:19:25,779 - DAN: We went into the house and I'm videotaping everything 384 00:19:25,856 --> 00:19:28,166 that you see in that house, taking photographs. 385 00:19:28,242 --> 00:19:29,950 - NARRATOR: Shortly after arriving, 386 00:19:30,027 --> 00:19:33,412 crime scene technicians retrieve a single bullet 387 00:19:33,489 --> 00:19:36,290 from inside the dining room wall. 388 00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:40,252 - DAN: It was badly misshapen, it was a small caliber. 389 00:19:40,329 --> 00:19:43,422 Those of us that looked at it believed that it was probably 390 00:19:43,499 --> 00:19:46,258 a .22, uh, round. 391 00:19:46,335 --> 00:19:48,761 -NARRATOR: Outside the home, Detective Kennedy 392 00:19:48,837 --> 00:19:51,680 takes a look at Andra's truck. 393 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:53,641 - DANIEL: I walked back, saw the pickup, looked at-- 394 00:19:53,717 --> 00:19:56,602 made a closer look at it, and almost immediately 395 00:19:56,679 --> 00:20:00,189 what rang out to me as I walked towards the back of the pickup, 396 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,118 was, coming under the tailgate, to me looked like blood stains. 397 00:20:05,446 --> 00:20:08,706 - It looked like blood had run out of the bed of the truck 398 00:20:08,783 --> 00:20:10,875 and was dried on the back bumper. 399 00:20:10,952 --> 00:20:13,118 - DAN: That was Andra Ross' pickup, 400 00:20:13,195 --> 00:20:15,338 the same pickup she had wanted to take with her. 401 00:20:17,199 --> 00:20:18,624 It's the first thing I thought of. 402 00:20:18,701 --> 00:20:20,292 I thought that's one of the smartest decisions I've made 403 00:20:20,369 --> 00:20:23,554 in my career, is not allowing somebody to take their vehicle 404 00:20:23,631 --> 00:20:24,722 from the crime scene. 405 00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:30,177 - NARRATOR: Coming up, investigators zero in 406 00:20:30,254 --> 00:20:33,389 on their most compelling evidence yet. 407 00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,901 - Andra became what we'd call now a person of interest. 408 00:20:36,978 --> 00:20:38,894 - NARRATOR: But a surprise witness sends them 409 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,355 in an unexpected direction. 410 00:20:41,432 --> 00:20:44,233 - She had said that her daughter could be very ornery, 411 00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:45,993 especially if she'd been drinking. 412 00:20:48,397 --> 00:20:51,249 - ♪ 413 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,921 - NARRATOR: Less than 24 hours after 46-year-old Meta Jones 414 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:07,548 was reported missing, 415 00:21:07,624 --> 00:21:10,935 detectives have just discovered blood on the bumper 416 00:21:11,012 --> 00:21:14,388 of a vehicle driven by her soon-to-be stepdaughter, 417 00:21:14,465 --> 00:21:16,015 Andra Ross. 418 00:21:16,091 --> 00:21:17,275 - DANIEL: It looked like somebody had actually 419 00:21:17,351 --> 00:21:18,834 attempted to clean it. 420 00:21:18,836 --> 00:21:20,894 But they were able to confirm that it was human blood 421 00:21:20,971 --> 00:21:23,689 that was found in the back of the pickup. 422 00:21:23,766 --> 00:21:26,900 - DAN: The fact that Andra had wanted to take that pickup 423 00:21:26,977 --> 00:21:29,945 raised a huge red flag, and she became 424 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,739 what we'd call now a person of interest, 425 00:21:31,815 --> 00:21:34,033 back then we'd say a suspect. 426 00:21:34,109 --> 00:21:37,953 And I knew that we needed to focus a little bit more on her. 427 00:21:37,964 --> 00:21:40,039 - NARRATOR: While detectives have yet to piece together 428 00:21:40,115 --> 00:21:42,041 exactly what happened, 429 00:21:42,117 --> 00:21:44,302 the blood on the pickup confirms 430 00:21:44,378 --> 00:21:46,879 their worst suspicions. 431 00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:48,881 - DAN: We pretty much assumed at that point that 432 00:21:48,957 --> 00:21:50,299 we were dealing with a homicide, 433 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:52,926 and that Meta was no longer with us. 434 00:21:53,003 --> 00:21:55,637 And so it was not a missing persons case 435 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:57,064 from that moment on. 436 00:21:59,343 --> 00:22:01,152 - [phone ringing] 437 00:22:01,228 --> 00:22:04,897 - NARRATOR: Before investigators get a chance to question Andra, 438 00:22:04,973 --> 00:22:07,566 they are contacted by her maternal grandmother, 439 00:22:07,643 --> 00:22:09,660 Colleen Jonas. 440 00:22:09,737 --> 00:22:13,906 Colleen tells detectives that she fears her daughter Sandra, 441 00:22:13,982 --> 00:22:17,409 Milo's ex-wife, might have had something to do 442 00:22:17,486 --> 00:22:20,287 with Meta's disappearance. 443 00:22:20,364 --> 00:22:21,914 - GARY: Colleen had said that her daughter 444 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:23,290 could be very ornery, 445 00:22:23,367 --> 00:22:25,959 and that she could be mean when she was drinking. 446 00:22:26,036 --> 00:22:29,963 I know--and that she had an alcohol problem. 447 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,465 - NARRATOR: Colleen tells the detective 448 00:22:31,542 --> 00:22:34,510 that her daughter's drinking contributed to the end 449 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,138 of her 14-year marriage to Milo. 450 00:22:38,215 --> 00:22:39,973 - CINDY: He quit drinking and she didn't. 451 00:22:40,050 --> 00:22:42,526 And then he started going back to church 452 00:22:42,603 --> 00:22:44,362 and getting back in the religion 453 00:22:44,438 --> 00:22:47,981 and that just caused a worse row between them. 454 00:22:48,058 --> 00:22:51,318 - PAUL: My parents separated about 1997 or so. 455 00:22:51,395 --> 00:22:55,197 And my parents were divorced, I believe, in May of '98. 456 00:22:55,208 --> 00:22:58,158 - JACKIE: Milo and her got separated and divorced, 457 00:22:58,235 --> 00:23:01,212 and then she went to work doing road construction, 458 00:23:01,288 --> 00:23:03,455 and it took her up to Sun Valley, 459 00:23:03,532 --> 00:23:06,550 and so she--she borrowed my mom's trailer 460 00:23:06,627 --> 00:23:09,128 and she was living up there. 461 00:23:09,204 --> 00:23:12,464 She lost a lot of weight, and she was looking really good. 462 00:23:12,541 --> 00:23:17,186 She seemed like she was happy, but she still loved Milo. 463 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:22,850 - Colleen said that Sandra had never accepted the divorce. 464 00:23:22,926 --> 00:23:25,018 In her mind, her and Milo, 465 00:23:25,095 --> 00:23:27,312 although they weren't legally married, 466 00:23:27,389 --> 00:23:30,032 they were still, uh, together. 467 00:23:31,268 --> 00:23:33,569 - NARRATOR: When Meta moved in with Milo, 468 00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:36,155 Sandra became enraged. 469 00:23:36,231 --> 00:23:39,417 - GARY: She just couldn't handle somebody taking her place, 470 00:23:39,493 --> 00:23:41,076 being around her kids, 471 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:43,370 living in the house she used to live in, 472 00:23:43,447 --> 00:23:47,425 sleeping in the bed she used to sleep in, and it wasn't her. 473 00:23:47,501 --> 00:23:49,334 - NARRATOR: Adding fuel to the fire, 474 00:23:49,411 --> 00:23:52,546 Sandra learned about Paul's mission trip. 475 00:23:52,623 --> 00:23:56,383 - DAN: Sandra was very anti-LDS at that time. 476 00:23:56,460 --> 00:23:59,178 She was upset that her son was going on a mission, 477 00:23:59,254 --> 00:24:02,398 kind of blamed Meta for directing him in that pursuit. 478 00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:07,394 - NARRATOR: Colleen tells detectives that when she saw 479 00:24:07,471 --> 00:24:10,230 Sandra on the morning Meta disappeared, 480 00:24:10,307 --> 00:24:13,859 her daughter was even more bad-tempered than usual, 481 00:24:13,936 --> 00:24:16,361 and she was armed. 482 00:24:16,438 --> 00:24:19,531 - DAN: Sandra had been seen with a .22-caliber pistol 483 00:24:19,608 --> 00:24:21,408 on Sunday afternoon. 484 00:24:21,485 --> 00:24:24,462 And she had even made a comment that--to her mother, 485 00:24:24,538 --> 00:24:28,424 I believe it was-- that she should kill Meta. 486 00:24:30,544 --> 00:24:34,129 If a mother says, "I think my child did this," 487 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,641 then you spend a little more time weighing that 488 00:24:37,718 --> 00:24:39,185 against everything. 489 00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:44,389 - NARRATOR: While investigators look into Sandra's whereabouts, 490 00:24:44,466 --> 00:24:47,559 they come across another possible clue. 491 00:24:47,636 --> 00:24:51,605 - We found out that Sandra had a storage unit in Burley. 492 00:24:51,682 --> 00:24:54,149 The sheriff took the lead on that search warrant. 493 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,609 - NARRATOR: At the front of the unit, 494 00:24:55,686 --> 00:24:59,488 investigators spot a promising piece of evidence. 495 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:02,407 - DAN: They noticed that there was a blue paper towel 496 00:25:02,484 --> 00:25:04,117 outside the door of the storage unit 497 00:25:04,194 --> 00:25:07,838 that looked like it had some blood smears on it. 498 00:25:07,915 --> 00:25:09,331 They opened up the storage unit. 499 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:12,292 They found a bed frame, mattress, box springs, 500 00:25:12,369 --> 00:25:16,421 cleaning supplies with blood residue on them. 501 00:25:16,498 --> 00:25:20,017 We determined during the process that was the bed 502 00:25:20,094 --> 00:25:22,061 and bed frame missing from the basement. 503 00:25:24,381 --> 00:25:26,690 - NARRATOR: Now, investigators must determine 504 00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:30,143 whether Sandra is trying to cover her own tracks 505 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:32,187 or someone else's. 506 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:34,523 And the blood found in Andra's truck 507 00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:38,360 doesn't bode well for the 17-year-old. 508 00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:41,321 - During this time, I'm also trying to piece together, uh, 509 00:25:41,398 --> 00:25:44,283 Sandra's movements on, uh, Sunday, 510 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,118 and also trying to find out where 511 00:25:46,194 --> 00:25:48,328 she is probably at right now. 512 00:25:48,405 --> 00:25:50,205 But we didn't have what we needed 513 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:53,217 to make an arrest on Sandra. 514 00:25:53,294 --> 00:25:57,054 Andra was definitely a suspect at that point. 515 00:25:57,131 --> 00:25:59,006 - GARY: The circumstantial evidence in this case 516 00:25:59,082 --> 00:26:01,058 was overwhelming. 517 00:26:01,135 --> 00:26:04,511 Obviously, the daughter knew what had happened, 518 00:26:04,588 --> 00:26:06,346 but hadn't been interviewed at this point 519 00:26:06,423 --> 00:26:09,016 and made any kind of confession. 520 00:26:09,092 --> 00:26:10,684 - NARRATOR: Hoping to get answers, 521 00:26:10,761 --> 00:26:15,188 detectives go straight to 17-year-old Andra. 522 00:26:15,265 --> 00:26:18,317 - Every moment counts, but you also have to, uh, 523 00:26:18,393 --> 00:26:21,361 proceed pretty cautiously because you're not gonna get 524 00:26:21,438 --> 00:26:24,990 a second chance to get that confession. 525 00:26:25,067 --> 00:26:27,751 - NARRATOR: They locate Andra at a home where she is staying 526 00:26:27,828 --> 00:26:30,588 with her father and brother. 527 00:26:30,664 --> 00:26:33,591 - DAN: We knew that Andra and her dad were staying 528 00:26:33,667 --> 00:26:36,043 at the home of some people in their church 529 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,503 about a mile from their house. 530 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:40,931 The people they were staying with were very active 531 00:26:41,008 --> 00:26:43,884 in the church, I suspected that, 532 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,594 come around 10 o'clock, 533 00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:49,222 the family would be praying for Meta's safe return. 534 00:26:49,299 --> 00:26:52,017 Emotions were going to be high, 535 00:26:52,094 --> 00:26:54,519 and that's the time that I wanted to show up 536 00:26:54,596 --> 00:26:55,738 to talk to Andra. 537 00:26:57,358 --> 00:27:00,859 I asked Milo if I could speak with him and his daughter Andra, 538 00:27:00,936 --> 00:27:02,444 because she's still a minor, 539 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:05,364 and he gave permission for me to talk to her. 540 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,909 And I asked Andra if she was willing to talk to me 541 00:27:08,985 --> 00:27:13,455 about what happened with Meta, and she looked at her dad, 542 00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:15,341 asked him to leave the room. 543 00:27:16,377 --> 00:27:17,751 - NARRATOR: Alone with Andra, 544 00:27:17,828 --> 00:27:21,254 investigators encourage her to open up. 545 00:27:21,331 --> 00:27:24,383 - You have to pretty much say, "Yeah we know," 546 00:27:24,459 --> 00:27:26,093 you know, "Nothing's gonna shock us, 547 00:27:26,169 --> 00:27:28,762 you just go ahead and tell us." 548 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,057 - NARRATOR: But what she says does come as a shock. 549 00:27:32,134 --> 00:27:35,268 - She proceeded to tell me, "One thing that you gotta know 550 00:27:35,345 --> 00:27:37,062 before we start." I said, "What's that?" 551 00:27:37,139 --> 00:27:39,114 She goes, "The head's not with the body." 552 00:27:40,851 --> 00:27:43,110 - DANIEL: Once the gate opened, it just opened, 553 00:27:43,186 --> 00:27:45,612 and just everything came out. 554 00:27:45,689 --> 00:27:47,823 - NARRATOR: Andra tells detectives it started 555 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,784 when Sandra asked her to help retrieve a bed 556 00:27:50,861 --> 00:27:52,411 from Milo's home. 557 00:27:52,487 --> 00:27:55,789 The bed Meta had been sleeping on. 558 00:27:55,866 --> 00:27:58,250 - DAN: She heard that Meta was living in the house, 559 00:27:58,326 --> 00:28:01,753 sleeping in a bed that Sandra thought was her bed, 560 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:03,922 and she wasn't going to allow that to happen. 561 00:28:03,999 --> 00:28:06,299 She was so obsessed with, uh, 562 00:28:06,376 --> 00:28:09,010 getting that bed out of that house. 563 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:11,689 - NARRATOR: She agreed to help her mother transport the bed 564 00:28:11,765 --> 00:28:14,766 in her truck on Sunday while the rest of the family 565 00:28:14,843 --> 00:28:16,685 was still at church. 566 00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:21,857 - DAN: So, they go to the house and Meta is in the kitchen. 567 00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:25,485 And her and, uh, Sandy start yelling at each other. 568 00:28:25,562 --> 00:28:27,654 Sandra tells Andra to go down in the basement 569 00:28:27,731 --> 00:28:29,097 and wait for her. 570 00:28:29,099 --> 00:28:32,951 - NARRATOR: Andra claims she did as her mother asked. 571 00:28:33,028 --> 00:28:35,537 - DAN: Andra says, "I hear loud voices and arguing, 572 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:36,830 and then I hear a gunshot." 573 00:28:36,907 --> 00:28:38,290 - [gunshot] 574 00:28:40,744 --> 00:28:43,721 - DAN: A few seconds later, she hears a second gunshot. 575 00:28:43,797 --> 00:28:45,264 - [gunshot] 576 00:28:46,416 --> 00:28:47,891 - Her mother tells her, "Stay in the basement, 577 00:28:47,968 --> 00:28:50,051 I've got a mess to clean up." 578 00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,730 And after a little bit, says that her mother called her 579 00:28:52,806 --> 00:28:55,566 to come upstairs because she needed help. 580 00:28:55,642 --> 00:28:58,402 And she says that Meta's body was wrapped 581 00:28:58,479 --> 00:29:00,696 in the, uh, area rug. 582 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:05,409 - GARY: She claimed she didn't see the actual shooting, 583 00:29:05,486 --> 00:29:07,527 but heard the two gunshots, 584 00:29:07,604 --> 00:29:10,989 and the mother wanted her to help her get rid of the body 585 00:29:11,066 --> 00:29:14,534 and help clean up, which she did. 586 00:29:14,611 --> 00:29:16,828 - NARRATOR: Together, they loaded Meta's body 587 00:29:16,905 --> 00:29:20,665 into the pickup truck, placing the bed frame on top. 588 00:29:20,742 --> 00:29:23,210 - DAN: Then they drove a mile or so from the house 589 00:29:23,286 --> 00:29:28,432 along the canal, which is a large canal, 590 00:29:28,509 --> 00:29:32,010 and that her mother told her to wait in the truck, 591 00:29:32,087 --> 00:29:36,774 and she says that she saw through the mirror her mom 592 00:29:36,850 --> 00:29:38,776 disrobed Meta's body, 593 00:29:38,852 --> 00:29:41,570 and then using a hunting knife, cut her head off. 594 00:29:43,807 --> 00:29:47,734 Her mother threw her head, uh, into the canal. 595 00:29:47,811 --> 00:29:50,111 Drug the body out to the canal as well. 596 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:52,280 And when her mom came back, 597 00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:54,199 told her, "Don't worry, nobody will ever be able 598 00:29:54,276 --> 00:29:57,628 to identify her if they do find her." 599 00:29:57,704 --> 00:29:59,037 - NARRATOR: After dumping the body, 600 00:29:59,114 --> 00:30:01,632 they took the bed frame to Sandra's storage locker 601 00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:02,949 in Burley. 602 00:30:03,027 --> 00:30:06,345 Andra returned home and went straight to bed. 603 00:30:09,791 --> 00:30:12,142 - DAN: She was very believable with her story. 604 00:30:12,219 --> 00:30:14,427 It matched with the physical evidence 605 00:30:14,504 --> 00:30:16,146 that we'd found in her pickup, 606 00:30:16,223 --> 00:30:18,640 it matched with the fact the rug's missing, 607 00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:22,310 and there was, uh, blood droplets on the back step, 608 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:25,322 but you didn't find blood droplets on the sidewalk 609 00:30:25,399 --> 00:30:28,441 leading to the driveway, that kind of stuff. 610 00:30:28,518 --> 00:30:30,569 - NARRATOR: Following Andra's confession, 611 00:30:30,645 --> 00:30:33,280 Detective Chatterton has a tough conversation 612 00:30:33,356 --> 00:30:35,666 with her father, Milo. 613 00:30:35,742 --> 00:30:38,502 - DAN: We didn't handcuff her at that time, I don't believe, 614 00:30:38,579 --> 00:30:42,914 and when we came out of the room, I explained to Milo 615 00:30:42,991 --> 00:30:46,293 what we had learned and that, uh, she was gonna go 616 00:30:46,369 --> 00:30:48,295 to the sheriff's office with us. 617 00:30:48,371 --> 00:30:50,797 He wasn't greatly upset. 618 00:30:50,874 --> 00:30:54,810 He was just kind of...accepting of what was going on. 619 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,638 - NARRATOR: As they transport Andra to the station, 620 00:30:58,715 --> 00:31:01,975 detectives have one more stop to make. 621 00:31:02,052 --> 00:31:05,604 - She'd helped her mom transport the body out to the canal. 622 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,481 She was with her when the body was disposed of in the canal 623 00:31:08,558 --> 00:31:11,359 and when the head was severed from the body. 624 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:13,912 - I asked her to take us to where this happened. 625 00:31:15,732 --> 00:31:18,158 - NARRATOR: Coming up, detectives attempt 626 00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:20,952 to recover Meta's remains. 627 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:24,456 - They were able to shut the water off at the Milner Dam. 628 00:31:24,532 --> 00:31:27,334 - Our searchers had noticed a severed human head 629 00:31:27,410 --> 00:31:29,836 on the canal bank. 630 00:31:29,913 --> 00:31:32,714 - NARRATOR: And as detectives close in on a killer, 631 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:36,894 a chilling piece of evidence falls into their laps. 632 00:31:36,970 --> 00:31:40,472 - DAN: Something small and shiny fell to the floor, 633 00:31:40,548 --> 00:31:43,224 and both of us looked at that 634 00:31:43,235 --> 00:31:45,777 as it bounced and landed on the floor. 635 00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:51,491 - ♪ 636 00:31:56,063 --> 00:31:58,040 - ♪ 637 00:32:00,827 --> 00:32:03,870 - NARRATOR: On October 26, 1998, 638 00:32:03,947 --> 00:32:06,757 escorted by Jerome County investigators, 639 00:32:06,833 --> 00:32:10,418 17-year-old Andra Ross leads detectives 640 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:13,505 to the spot where her mother, Sandra Jonas, 641 00:32:13,581 --> 00:32:17,517 dumped the body of 46-year-old Meta Jones. 642 00:32:18,628 --> 00:32:22,430 - She led us on the path, uh, to where, uh, 643 00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:23,941 they went with Meta. 644 00:32:24,017 --> 00:32:27,936 And she showed us the spot on the road there by the canal 645 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:30,105 where she backed up to the canal. 646 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,033 At that point, that becomes another crime scene. 647 00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:36,736 - NARRATOR: Investigators put in a request 648 00:32:36,813 --> 00:32:39,197 to have the canal drained. 649 00:32:39,274 --> 00:32:42,117 - GARY: They were able to shut the water off at the Milner Dam, 650 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,453 but it did take about eight or nine hours for it to drain 651 00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:48,081 low enough to start searching that canal. 652 00:32:48,158 --> 00:32:49,633 - DANIEL: We knew we weren't gonna get started 653 00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:52,252 until the next morning, so the plan was to have 654 00:32:52,328 --> 00:32:54,963 other people kind of come and secure the secondary site, 655 00:32:54,974 --> 00:32:57,516 and then just lining up divers to help us. 656 00:32:59,478 --> 00:33:00,869 - NARRATOR: Back at the station, 657 00:33:00,871 --> 00:33:05,140 detectives officially place Andra under arrest. 658 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,308 - DAN: We charged her with accessory to murder 659 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,654 and then we immediately began working on a warrant 660 00:33:10,731 --> 00:33:12,197 to have Sandra arrested. 661 00:33:13,567 --> 00:33:15,900 - PAUL: My mom was--uh, she was very strict. 662 00:33:15,977 --> 00:33:18,319 So, I wasn't surprised that when I found out 663 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:21,832 my sister was there that she ended up having to participate. 664 00:33:21,908 --> 00:33:25,168 And I think I would've had to have participated as well. 665 00:33:28,915 --> 00:33:31,174 - NARRATOR: Detectives decide to wait until morning 666 00:33:31,251 --> 00:33:35,837 to execute the arrest warrant for Sandra. 667 00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,797 - DAN: In rural homes like this, 668 00:33:37,874 --> 00:33:41,018 if you go up in the dark, could she get away from us? 669 00:33:41,094 --> 00:33:43,511 She's gonna know why we're there if we go up 670 00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:45,430 and start beating on the door. 671 00:33:45,507 --> 00:33:49,526 And so, the tactical decision was to wait until she came out 672 00:33:49,603 --> 00:33:52,946 to go to work the next morning and then take her into custody. 673 00:33:54,941 --> 00:33:58,526 - NARRATOR: Now, two days after Meta was reported missing, 674 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:01,988 detectives get word from officers at the canal. 675 00:34:02,065 --> 00:34:05,700 - As we were waiting for the arrest to take place, 676 00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:09,120 the sheriff had advised me that the canal water 677 00:34:09,197 --> 00:34:12,332 had been dropping down since about 11 o'clock, 678 00:34:12,408 --> 00:34:16,795 and that our searchers had noticed a severed human head, 679 00:34:16,871 --> 00:34:18,638 uh, on the canal bank. 680 00:34:22,969 --> 00:34:25,887 The human head doesn't float if it's severed from the body. 681 00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:28,065 It weighs roughly eight pounds, 682 00:34:28,141 --> 00:34:31,559 and when you fling it out into the water, 683 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:34,187 it's gonna reach the apex of your throw, 684 00:34:34,264 --> 00:34:36,898 hit the water, and sink. 685 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:40,869 And that's literally, uh, where we found the head. 686 00:34:41,938 --> 00:34:45,406 - NARRATOR: But Meta's body didn't stay put. 687 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:49,077 - The body floated downstream about a mile, mile and a half. 688 00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:51,496 - NARRATOR: Detectives transport the recovered remains 689 00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:54,257 to the medical examiner for autopsy. 690 00:34:56,578 --> 00:35:00,213 Then, they get word that Sandra was taken into custody 691 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:03,258 in Blaine County on her way into work. 692 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:05,927 - DAN: It is the first contact that any police had had 693 00:35:05,938 --> 00:35:09,514 directly with her, uh, involving this case. 694 00:35:09,591 --> 00:35:12,609 - NARRATOR: Detective Chatterton comes face to face with Sandra 695 00:35:12,686 --> 00:35:14,602 as she is booked. 696 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:17,438 While taking inventory of her personal items, 697 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:21,618 investigators make a shocking discovery in her pockets. 698 00:35:21,695 --> 00:35:24,287 - It was a typical hunting knife. 699 00:35:24,364 --> 00:35:26,698 It was a fixed blade, it wasn't a folding blade, 700 00:35:26,774 --> 00:35:28,950 probably about four to five inches in length, 701 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:30,034 with a very sturdy handle, 702 00:35:30,111 --> 00:35:31,911 and it was a sturdy, broad knife. 703 00:35:31,988 --> 00:35:33,964 It wasn't a flimsy one, like a filet knife. 704 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,882 It was a--a hunting knife. 705 00:35:37,827 --> 00:35:39,878 - NARRATOR: Detective Chatterton discovers that's not 706 00:35:39,954 --> 00:35:43,882 the only thing Sandra's been carrying around. 707 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:46,977 - DAN: When the property was being taken off of her person, 708 00:35:47,053 --> 00:35:50,638 something small and shiny came out of her pocket 709 00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,149 and fell to the floor. 710 00:35:54,469 --> 00:35:58,897 Both of us looked at that as it bounced and landed on the floor. 711 00:35:58,973 --> 00:36:01,733 - Dan hears this ding-ding-ding, and he looks down and... 712 00:36:01,809 --> 00:36:05,320 there's Meta Jones's ring rolling down the floor. 713 00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:08,823 - DAN: I scooped it up and it was just the top 714 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,575 of a diamond ring. 715 00:36:10,652 --> 00:36:13,912 The band itself was cut off from that. 716 00:36:13,988 --> 00:36:17,957 The significance of finding the head of the ring, 717 00:36:18,034 --> 00:36:22,512 with the decapitation of the victim... 718 00:36:22,589 --> 00:36:24,139 kind of a chilling thing. 719 00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:31,346 - NARRATOR: Shortly after booking Sandra, 720 00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:35,975 police get confirmation of what they already suspected. 721 00:36:36,052 --> 00:36:39,020 The medical examiner verifies that the head and body 722 00:36:39,031 --> 00:36:43,024 found in the canal belong to Meta. 723 00:36:43,035 --> 00:36:45,026 - GARY: The dentist that did the records, 724 00:36:45,037 --> 00:36:47,946 did the X-rays and took all the photos, 725 00:36:48,022 --> 00:36:50,707 compared it with her family dentist who had record 726 00:36:50,784 --> 00:36:52,325 of all of her dental records. 727 00:36:52,402 --> 00:36:54,794 The cause of death was gunshot wound to the head. 728 00:36:56,406 --> 00:36:58,706 There were two, there was one below her--I think it was 729 00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:01,960 her right eye, and then one behind the ear. 730 00:37:02,036 --> 00:37:04,379 - NARRATOR: Milo is able to verify that the ring 731 00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:07,715 Sandra had in her pocket was indeed the one 732 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:09,300 he gave to Meta. 733 00:37:09,377 --> 00:37:12,387 - Milo had a receipt for the ring that he had 734 00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:13,730 purchased for Meta. 735 00:37:13,807 --> 00:37:17,234 That is the same diamond that was sold to Milo. 736 00:37:19,929 --> 00:37:22,855 - NARRATOR: As the evidence piles up against Sandra, 737 00:37:22,932 --> 00:37:25,408 prosecutors and investigators feel confident about 738 00:37:25,485 --> 00:37:28,736 their changes of putting her away for good. 739 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:32,082 Still, they keep digging. 740 00:37:32,158 --> 00:37:34,084 - DANIEL: We're doing a murder investigation, so we're just 741 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,577 kind of going back and looking to see if there was, you know, 742 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,998 any issues with violence in her past, and this came up. 743 00:37:40,074 --> 00:37:42,333 - NARRATOR: Detectives learn that, eight years ago, 744 00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,919 a mysterious fire broke out in the home 745 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:47,839 of Milo's first wife, Vicky. 746 00:37:47,915 --> 00:37:49,933 - PAUL: My dad, he had met Vicky. 747 00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:51,843 They were married in 1961, 748 00:37:51,919 --> 00:37:57,724 and I believe they were divorced, um, 1980 or so. 749 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,942 - DANIEL: She had a catastrophic house fire 750 00:37:59,019 --> 00:38:00,518 where somebody had died in the house. 751 00:38:00,595 --> 00:38:02,854 Nobody ever conducted a serious interview with Vicky, 752 00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:05,273 the only survivor of the house fire. 753 00:38:05,284 --> 00:38:08,234 - NARRATOR: Was Meta Sandra's first victim? 754 00:38:08,311 --> 00:38:11,413 Or had Sandra Jonas killed before? 755 00:38:14,484 --> 00:38:18,286 Coming up: the investigation expands yet again, 756 00:38:18,297 --> 00:38:22,248 and Sandra's motive crystallizes. 757 00:38:22,325 --> 00:38:24,625 - There's just no way that one plus two 758 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:26,544 didn't equal three in that case. 759 00:38:26,621 --> 00:38:29,848 - That was her home, her husband, her children. 760 00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:35,812 - ♪ 761 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,193 - ♪ 762 00:38:46,182 --> 00:38:48,491 - NARRATOR: As Jerome County investigators continue 763 00:38:48,568 --> 00:38:52,662 to build their case against accused murderer Sandra Jonas, 764 00:38:52,739 --> 00:38:56,407 they find evidence that Meta Jones may not have been 765 00:38:56,484 --> 00:38:58,576 her first victim. 766 00:38:58,653 --> 00:39:01,913 Eight years prior, a mysterious fire broke out 767 00:39:01,989 --> 00:39:06,459 at the home of Milo Ross's first wife, Vicky. 768 00:39:06,536 --> 00:39:08,252 - DANIEL: There was a house fire and somebody died. 769 00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:11,130 Vicky had some very strong and definite concerns 770 00:39:11,207 --> 00:39:14,509 about the fire, that it occurred shortly after 771 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,145 the last confrontation that she had with Sandra. 772 00:39:19,674 --> 00:39:22,308 - NARRATOR: Vicky explains to police that she and Milo 773 00:39:22,385 --> 00:39:25,853 had remained in touch throughout his marriage to Sandra, 774 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:29,032 and Sandra didn't like it. 775 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:31,692 - DANIEL: She started off making threats towards Vicky, 776 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:34,529 and then a few short weeks later, we have, you know, 777 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:35,914 the fire at the house. 778 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,202 - NARRATOR: But while investigators have plenty 779 00:39:41,213 --> 00:39:43,213 of questions about the fire, 780 00:39:43,289 --> 00:39:46,707 the eight-year-old case is already closed. 781 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:48,543 - DANIEL: The state fire marshal's office wasn't willing 782 00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:50,711 to re-look at that because they had seen it 783 00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:53,548 as an accidental electrical fire, 784 00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:57,227 so there would be no way we could present that as evidence. 785 00:39:57,303 --> 00:40:00,230 - NARRATOR: Though never charged with starting the fire, 786 00:40:00,306 --> 00:40:03,233 the confrontations between the two women could be 787 00:40:03,309 --> 00:40:06,561 an indication of a motive towards Meta. 788 00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:10,189 - It shows the violent attitude that Sandra has, 789 00:40:10,266 --> 00:40:11,732 especially when it comes to anyone 790 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:13,243 in a relationship with Milo. 791 00:40:13,319 --> 00:40:17,247 And it kind of corroborated the potential motive 792 00:40:17,323 --> 00:40:20,491 of why Sandra would be so upset 793 00:40:20,568 --> 00:40:23,086 that another woman's sleeping in the house 794 00:40:23,163 --> 00:40:25,037 that she considers to be hers, 795 00:40:25,114 --> 00:40:27,415 in a bed that she considered to be hers, 796 00:40:27,426 --> 00:40:29,375 and in a relationship with a man 797 00:40:29,452 --> 00:40:32,336 that she considered to be her husband. 798 00:40:32,413 --> 00:40:35,381 The circumstance of Meta having stayed behind 799 00:40:35,458 --> 00:40:40,887 that morning and fixing food for their uh, family dinner, 800 00:40:40,963 --> 00:40:43,273 it just led to the perfect storm. 801 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:46,943 This was brewing for a long time, 802 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:50,229 and the main catalyst is she never accepted 803 00:40:50,306 --> 00:40:52,449 the divorce between her and Milo. 804 00:40:52,525 --> 00:40:56,110 That was her home, her husband, her children. 805 00:40:56,121 --> 00:40:57,454 - [gunshot] 806 00:41:00,983 --> 00:41:03,960 - NARRATOR: Even with all the evidence stacked against her, 807 00:41:04,037 --> 00:41:07,038 Sandra refuses to confess. 808 00:41:07,114 --> 00:41:11,468 In December 1998, Andra accepts a plea. 809 00:41:11,544 --> 00:41:14,962 As part of her deal, she agrees to take the stand 810 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:16,964 against her mother. 811 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:19,091 - DAN: She was charged as a juvenile, 812 00:41:19,168 --> 00:41:21,644 with--I believe it was accessory to murder. 813 00:41:21,721 --> 00:41:25,806 Her agreement to cooperate with the State 814 00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:29,810 in prosecuting her mother was taken into account. 815 00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:34,815 - NARRATOR: Andra is sentenced to two years' probation. 816 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,568 - Personally, I don't think she should have gotten anything. 817 00:41:37,645 --> 00:41:41,831 I think she was reacting to what her mother 818 00:41:41,908 --> 00:41:43,991 basically told her to do. 819 00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:46,669 You know, "You either do this or else." 820 00:41:50,157 --> 00:41:51,749 - NARRATOR: Almost ten months later, 821 00:41:51,826 --> 00:41:54,126 in July 1999, 822 00:41:54,203 --> 00:41:56,679 prosecutors learn that Sandra is ready 823 00:41:56,756 --> 00:41:58,681 to talk about a deal. 824 00:41:58,758 --> 00:42:02,685 - Initially we charged her with, uh, first-degree murder, 825 00:42:02,762 --> 00:42:07,014 and through the process of negotiations and pre-trial, 826 00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:09,976 she pled guilty to second-degree murder 827 00:42:10,052 --> 00:42:12,737 and was sentenced to 25 to life. 828 00:42:17,443 --> 00:42:19,694 - This obviously was a story of jealousy. 829 00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:21,779 A murder of jealousy. 830 00:42:21,856 --> 00:42:26,543 - DAN: To strip a victim naked, cut her head off, 831 00:42:26,619 --> 00:42:30,162 take an artifact from her body, the engagement ring, 832 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,664 that's pretty heinous. 833 00:42:31,741 --> 00:42:33,541 That goes up there on the list of some 834 00:42:33,552 --> 00:42:36,377 of the worst things you could do to somebody. 835 00:42:36,388 --> 00:42:37,612 - GARY: What's the old saying, 836 00:42:37,614 --> 00:42:40,223 "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? 837 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,342 I think she just couldn't handle 838 00:42:43,419 --> 00:42:46,563 somebody taking her place, being around her kids, 839 00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:48,639 living in the house she used to live in, 840 00:42:48,716 --> 00:42:53,236 sleeping in the bed she used to sleep in, and it wasn't her. 841 00:42:53,313 --> 00:42:55,187 - PAUL: The most tragic part of this thing is that 842 00:42:55,264 --> 00:42:56,406 it all could have been prevented. 843 00:42:56,482 --> 00:42:58,241 I don't put any responsibility on Meta. 844 00:42:58,318 --> 00:42:59,725 I don't put any on Andra. 845 00:42:59,803 --> 00:43:03,913 I don't put any on me or my Aunt Jackie or my grandma, 846 00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:06,032 but on my mom alone. 847 00:43:06,108 --> 00:43:09,201 My mom doesn't recognize that she's done anything wrong, 848 00:43:09,278 --> 00:43:12,413 or--and I don't know that she ever will. 849 00:43:12,424 --> 00:43:15,833 - HEATHER: Such a wonderful woman was taken from our family 850 00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:20,254 in such a tragic way that was super unnecessary, 851 00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:21,931 and it didn't need to happen. 852 00:43:22,008 --> 00:43:25,268 She just missed out on so many good things in her life. 853 00:43:27,513 --> 00:43:35,903 - ♪