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[female narrator]
<i> a competitive cyclist</i>

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<i> Is killed under</i>
<i> mysterious circumstances.</i>

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[andre]<i> he had several</i>
<i> small cuts, abrasions,</i>

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But you don't have this
obvious cause of death.

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[narrator]
<i> the investigation provides</i>

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<i> A number of questionable leads.</i>

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She said that
he had had an affair.

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He had been charged with
a domestic battery offense

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And, also,
an invasion of privacy.

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Usually sex, drugs, or money
is why someone gets murdered.

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[greg]<i> we drew fluids.</i>

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We went the extra step
and took the stomach contents.

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[narrator]<i> but the truth</i>
<i> turns out to be stranger</i>

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<i> Than anyone could've imagined.</i>

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We found a screenshot
of the death cap mushroom.

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You eat it and you are dead.

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We have to take all these
little pieces of a puzzle

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And put them together.

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It is almost the perfect murder.

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Almost.

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[theme music]

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[music]

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[narrator]<i> noblesville,</i>
<i> indiana is a quiet city</i>

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25 miles north of indianapolis.

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[andre]<i> the southern half</i>
<i> of this 400 square mile county</i>

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<i> Is very suburban.</i>

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We have some of
the safest and, in many ways,

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Wealthiest per capita-wise
communities in the state,

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If not the whole country.

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[narrator]
<i> but on April 24, 2020,</i>

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<i> An urgent 911 call</i>
<i> from a local resident</i>

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<i> Serves as a reminder that</i>

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<i> The area</i>
<i> isn't immune to violence.</i>

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[narrator]<i> investigators</i>
<i> are immediately</i>

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<i> Dispatched to the scene.</i>

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[greg]<i> I found a, a white male.</i>

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I estimated his age
to be between 45 and 55.

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He had no shirt on,
had a pair of sweats on,

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<i> And a shirt was tied</i>
<i> around his left wrist.</i>

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You could physically see some
red dots throughout the shirt

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<i> And you could assume</i>
<i> it was blood.</i>

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<i> At that point,</i>
<i> we secured the scene.</i>

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<i> It's on a, on a country road.</i>

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<i> It's not very populated,</i>
<i> but it is a traveled road.</i>

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There is what they reported
as a dog collar or a dog leash

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Wrapped around his neck.

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I saw it and immediately
recognized it as a rifle sling

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<i> That you'd put on a rifle.</i>

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You could tell from
the, the amount of lividity

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And some insect activity

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<i> That it had been deceased</i>
<i> for a couple of days.</i>

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[narrator]<i> unfortunately,</i>
<i> there is little evidence</i>

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<i> Indicating who</i>
<i> the victim is or how he died.</i>

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[andre]<i> he had several</i>
<i> small cuts, abrasions,</i>

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Not sufficient
to cause blood loss

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That would result in death.

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<i> So, you don't have</i>
<i> this obvious cause of death.</i>

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He has no id on him.
So, we have no clue who he is.

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<i> Dna would take months</i>
<i> to identify him.</i>

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So, our only real option
was to do fingerprints.

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<i> We obtained fingerprints</i>
<i> from the deceased.</i>

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<i> We conducted a, an area canvass</i>

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<i> And there were no vehicles</i>
<i> found in the area,</i>

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<i> No neighbors have seen</i>
<i> anything or heard anything.</i>

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[narrator]<i> while awaiting</i>
<i> the fingerprint results,</i>

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<i> Investigators further</i>
<i> assess the man's condition</i>

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<i> And a theory surfaces.</i>

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Not only was
he shoeless and sockless,

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But the bottoms of his feet
and the tops of the feet,

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Uh, weren't dirty.

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<i> One could draw</i>
<i> a conclusion there of</i>

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Not only had he not died
in that position,

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But he likely
had been dropped there.

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[chris]<i> we're not too far away</i>
<i> from a neighborhood</i>

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<i> We've had a lot of overdoses in</i>

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Is this somebody
that's overdosed and died,

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And their friends
didn't know what to do,

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And so they dumped
the body right over here?

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We kind of start to
establish our next steps

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<i> To figure out exactly</i>
<i> what's going on.</i>

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[narrator]<i> with nothing else</i>
<i> to gain from the scene,</i>

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<i> Investigators transport</i>
<i> the body to the morgue</i>

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<i> For closer inspection.</i>

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When I take photographs
at the morgue,

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I do an overall
of the entire body,

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And then I start to
section the body off.

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As I got to the arms,
uh, I noticed around the wrists

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Some adhesive,

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<i> And that kind of</i>
<i> seemed a little strange.</i>

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As I continued,
I got to the ankles

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And I noticed the same,
basically, demarcation

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Where you can see that
it appeared a piece of tape

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<i> Had been wrapped</i>
<i> around his ankles.</i>

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So, I'm thinking
this is probably

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Not just an overdose death,
probably a homicide.

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<i> We need to start digging</i>
<i> into that aspect</i>

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Of who is this guy
and what's going on here.

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Luckily, we were able
to get some fingerprints

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That, uh, were on file
with the state that matched.

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He was identified as
david michael fouts

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<i> Of pendleton.</i>

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[narrator]<i> indiana</i>
<i> native david fouts</i>

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<i> Was born on may 23, 1969</i>

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<i> And raised on the family farm.</i>

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<i> As an adult,</i>
<i> david left his rural roots</i>

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<i> For a fast-paced career</i>
<i> in technology.</i>

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Dave was involved
in, uh, computers

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And, and technical side
of things.

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David was manager at salesforce,
based out of indianapolis.

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<i> He worked from home.</i>

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[bob]<i> he was a top-notch</i>
<i> professional</i>

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<i> In the technology</i>
<i> and computer field.</i>

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He had a fairly high-profile job

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And I know it got
stressful at times.

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[narrator]<i> in addition to</i>
<i> professional stresses,</i>

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<i> David struggled in love.</i>

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<i> By his mid-40's,</i>

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<i> He had been</i>
<i> married and divorced,</i>

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As far as when dave separated
from his first wife,

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<i> I began to notice</i>
<i> a change in his personality,</i>

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Probably around 2013.

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He was not quite happy-go-lucky.

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<i> He seemed to be more withdrawn.</i>

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[narrator]<i> david found relief</i>
<i> from the pressures of his caree</i>

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<i> And personal life</i>
<i> through his hobbies.</i>

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[greg]<i> david had a house</i>
<i> on the east side of the county,</i>

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<i> Where he had greyhounds,</i>

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And they were
retired racing dogs.

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[bob]<i> also, he was heavily</i>
<i> involved in cycling</i>

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<i> And road racing.</i>

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He truly wanted to
improve and get better.

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<i> I would see him two</i>
<i> or three times a week,</i>

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When he would attend
my training classes.

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<i> I found that dave</i>
<i> was always quick witted,</i>

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Had a, a good joke ready for
anybody who crossed his path.

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<i> He was always concerned</i>
<i> about the well-being of</i>

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<i> His fellow cyclists</i>
<i> or his friends.</i>

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I think he did that as a way to
take the attention off himself.

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He would pour that
compassion into his friends

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<i> Rather than draw them</i>
<i> into any heartache</i>

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<i> He might have been experiencing</i>

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[narrator]<i> by 2016,</i>
<i> 47-year-old david</i>

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<i> Was committed to</i>
<i> his work and pastimes</i>

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<i> And content to live life alone.</i>

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<i> Until 50-year-old</i>
<i> katrina gentry</i>

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<i> Walked into his life.</i>

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[greg]<i> katrina's</i>
<i> one of, I believe,</i>

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<i> Three daughters of glen gentry,</i>
<i> and he owned a roofing business</i>

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<i> In richmond, indiana.</i>

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They had
a very rough upbringing.

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<i> She had children, I believe,</i>
<i> fairly young, three children.</i>

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[narrator]<i> like david,</i>

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<i> Katrina had never</i>
<i> been lucky in love.</i>

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<i> By 2016, she had a divorce</i>

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<i> And several failed</i>
<i> relationships behind her.</i>

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<i> Her children were also adults</i>
<i> with their own families.</i>

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<i> But katrina</i>
<i> didn't look or act like</i>

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<i> A typical grandmother.</i>

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Katrina was very attractive,
very outgoing.

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She liked going to concerts.
She liked going to comedy clubs.

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<i> She didn't like to be</i>
<i> in a crowd, but if she were,</i>

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<i> She liked to be</i>
<i> the center of attention.</i>

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[narrator]
<i> katrina's outgoing nature</i>

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<i> Balanced david's</i>
<i> introverted personality.</i>

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<i> After three years of dating,</i>
<i> the couple married in 2019.</i>

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<i> But their new family unit</i>
<i> has been destroyed</i>

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<i> After david is found murdered</i>
<i> on a rural stretch of road.</i>

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<i> Now investigators</i>
<i> must apply forensic knowledge</i>

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<i> To make sense of this</i>
<i> puzzling crime scene.</i>

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It's clear that
he hadn't died that day.

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<i> We found fly eggs</i>
<i> in his sweatpants,</i>

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Which suggest that
he had been deceased

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<i> At least for a day or two.</i>

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[greg]<i> there were</i>
<i> no signs of trauma, none.</i>

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<i> So, you know, you would expect</i>

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Maybe some ligature marks
on the neck,

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Uh, a gunshot wound.

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<i> But there was nothing noticeabl</i>

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<i> That would have</i>
<i> caused his death.</i>

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We start to lean towards
we're going to need toxicology

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Because we're thinking,
you know,

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Maybe it's
some type of poisoning.

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[greg]<i> we drew fluids,</i>
<i> uh, urine, blood,</i>

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For examination for toxicology,

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<i> But we found nothing physically</i>
<i> that we could say killed him.</i>

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<i> So, we went the extra step</i>
<i> and took the stomach contents</i>

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<i> To see if maybe it was</i>
<i> something that he had ingested.</i>

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You couldn't tell
what food he had to eat last,

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Except for it looked like
there were bits of mushrooms

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<i> That had been chewed up</i>
<i> and swallowed.</i>

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<i> Purdue university is in indiana</i>

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<i> And we were able to get ahold</i>
<i> of their mycology department.</i>

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<i> The doctor identified</i>
<i> the mushrooms as l-connatum,</i>

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<i> Which is</i>
<i> a poisonous mushroom</i>

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<i> That can kill you.</i>

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Even if you're dead, it will
metabolize out of your body,

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<i> So there will be</i>
<i> no signs of this poison,</i>

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This toxin in your body within,
I think, 72 hours, maybe less.

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<i> And david had been dead</i>
<i> for a few days.</i>

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[narrator]<i> detectives are</i>
<i> left with a new conundrum.</i>

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<i> Had david eaten</i>
<i> the mushrooms willingly,</i>

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<i> Unaware that they were deadly?</i>

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<i> Or, is this indeed a murder,</i>
<i> one unlike any seen before?</i>

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[greg]<i> there is</i>
<i> so little known about mushrooms</i>

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And there was no case
in the history of the world

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Where they had been
intentionally used

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To kill someone,
this type of mushroom.

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[narrator]<i> coming up,</i>

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<i> A grieving widow</i>
<i> points the finger.</i>

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[narrator]<i> until suspicious</i>
<i> internet queries</i>

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<i> Put a new suspect</i>
<i> in the spotlight.</i>

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That extraction
revealed web searches

213
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<i> For what it takes to get</i>
<i> an arrest warrant for murder.</i>

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[theme music]

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[narrator]
<i> detectives are nine hours</i>

216
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<i> Into investigating the death</i>
<i> of 51-year-old david fouts.</i>

217
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<i> After finding evidence</i>
<i> in david's stomach</i>

218
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<i> That might point to</i>
<i> a unique murder method,</i>

219
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<i> Investigators speak</i>
<i> with his widow, katrina.</i>

220
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I informed her
that david was dead

221
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And that we'd found him
in a ditch in hamilton county,

222
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<i> Off of overdorf road.</i>

223
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<i> She grabbed her chest</i>
<i> and she was crying.</i>

224
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It's hard to explain
how anybody's gonna react

225
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To the notification that
their loved one's been killed.

226
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It seemed over the top.
It felt off.

227
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[narrator]<i> once katrina</i>
<i> recovers from the shock,</i>

228
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<i> She reveals a surprising piece</i>
<i> of information to detectives.</i>

229
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She described that she and david
had a loving relationship,

230
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<i> But he had had an affair,</i>

231
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And katrina knew who it was
and what was going on.

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She told us she started noticing
in their bank statements

233
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That monies were being spent.

234
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<i> And she could not</i>
<i> account for them.</i>

235
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So that was interesting.

236
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[narrator]
<i> when katrina looked into it,</i>

237
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<i> She found out david</i>
<i> had given his lover money</i>

238
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<i> To purchase a vehicle.</i>

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[andre]<i> katrina was</i>
<i> spending most of her time</i>

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At the country house
in, in noblesville,

241
00:13:58,371 --> 00:14:00,938
And he was living at
the pendleton house.

242
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:04,408
<i> They weren't necessarily seeing</i>
<i> each other a lot at that time.</i>

243
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[greg]<i> we asked when the</i>
<i> last time she had seen him was,</i>

244
00:14:07,647 --> 00:14:11,715
<i> And she told us that</i>
<i> it had been on Tuesday.</i>

245
00:14:11,717 --> 00:14:14,118
And this was on a,
now a Saturday morning.

246
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:18,756
So, we asked her,
usually sex, drugs, or money,

247
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Is why someone gets murdered.

248
00:14:20,593 --> 00:14:22,126
<i> "well, what would be</i>
<i> the reason to kill david?"</i>

249
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[andre]<i> katrina said</i>
<i> david had been involved with</i>

250
00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:30,634
<i> This other woman</i>
<i> and it was a love triangle.</i>

251
00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:33,937
<i> So, david had been</i>
<i> previously threatened</i>

252
00:14:33,939 --> 00:14:37,008
By this other third party,

253
00:14:37,076 --> 00:14:39,577
This other leg
in this love triangle.

254
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[greg]<i> she described to</i>
<i> us on several occasions</i>

255
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<i> That a male</i>
<i> had come to the house</i>

256
00:14:45,351 --> 00:14:48,386
And that he had
threatened david directly.

257
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[greg]<i> she said</i>
<i> he was very clean-cut.</i>

258
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And then she gave us
a rough timeframe

259
00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:05,069
Of what she had been doing
Tuesday through Friday.

260
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[narrator]
<i> detectives request access</i>

261
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<i> To katrina's phone records</i>
<i> to verify her alibi,</i>

262
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<i> As well as the name</i>
<i> of david's lover,</i>

263
00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:19,117
<i> Which katrina</i>
<i> willingly provides.</i>

264
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[greg]<i> there was nothing</i>
<i> to physically say</i>

265
00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:24,788
<i> Or point to katrina,</i>

266
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So it was unclear whether

267
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She was a suspect
at that point or not.

268
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[narrator]<i> to verify</i>
<i> katrina's claims,</i>

269
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<i> Investigators track</i>
<i> down david's lover,</i>

270
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<i> And she says</i>
<i> katrina was misinformed.</i>

271
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[greg]<i> we did</i>
<i> an interview with her.</i>

272
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She said that david
had never met her ex-lovers.

273
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<i> She cooperated fully</i>

274
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And gave us
everything that we asked for.

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[narrator]<i> due to</i>
<i> her easy cooperation,</i>

276
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<i> Detectives dismiss david's love</i>

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<i> As a potential</i>
<i> person of interest.</i>

278
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They also go
and talk to any of the men

279
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That she's ultimately
involved with.

280
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[greg]<i> one was in prison,</i>

281
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<i> So he could</i>
<i> immediately be ruled out.</i>

282
00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:09,100
The other one lives in florida,

283
00:16:09,168 --> 00:16:11,235
And we were able to
make contact with him.

284
00:16:11,237 --> 00:16:12,737
<i> He was able to provide an alibi</i>

285
00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:15,773
<i> Which we were able to</i>
<i> follow up on and check out.</i>

286
00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:18,209
There's just nothing there
that, that corroborates

287
00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:21,312
That they would be
involved in david's death.

288
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[narrator]
<i> in search of further leads,</i>

289
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<i> Detectives take a closer look</i>
<i> at david's lifestyle.</i>

290
00:16:32,258 --> 00:16:33,591
[chris]<i> who is david fouts?</i>

291
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:35,593
What other connections
may he have

292
00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:39,196
That could give us evidence
of who maybe did this?

293
00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:41,565
[greg]<i> neighbors really didn't</i>
<i> even have much to say about him</i>

294
00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:44,602
<i> He just seems like</i>
<i> he worked and then he came home</i>

295
00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:47,771
I would describe david to be
somewhat of a private person,

296
00:16:47,773 --> 00:16:50,007
<i> Especially</i>
<i> with his personal life.</i>

297
00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:53,877
He always gave a big smile and
a hug when he would greet you.

298
00:16:53,947 --> 00:16:55,713
<i> I found that dave was a, uh,</i>

299
00:16:55,782 --> 00:17:00,818
A very engaging and
a willing to help type of guy.

300
00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:04,122
[chris]<i> there was nothing</i>
<i> that we found that was like,</i>

301
00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:05,790
"aha, this is gonna
lead us somewhere."

302
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:11,162
[narrator]<i> for a more thorough</i>
<i> idea of his character,</i>

303
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<i> Investigators run</i>
<i> a background check</i>

304
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:15,533
<i> On david fouts.</i>

305
00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:19,136
<i> What they discover</i>
<i> is surprising.</i>

306
00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:20,704
[andre]<i> in the public records,</i>

307
00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:23,140
David had been charged with
a domestic battery offense

308
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,776
In September of 2019

309
00:17:25,845 --> 00:17:28,146
<i> And, also,</i>
<i> an invasion of privacy.</i>

310
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[greg]<i> katrina accused</i>
<i> him of domestic battery.</i>

311
00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:33,751
And he was,
he was arrested for that.

312
00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:37,588
<i> David said it didn't happen,</i>
<i> that he had never touched her.</i>

313
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There was no contact order
between them

314
00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:41,893
<i> As a condition of david's bond.</i>

315
00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:43,995
[greg]<i> I spoke with his attorney</i>

316
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:47,164
And they were going to
fight the case in court.

317
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:48,833
<i> And that court date</i>
<i> was coming up.</i>

318
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[narrator]
<i> to find out the truth</i>

319
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<i> About their relationship,</i>

320
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<i> Detectives analyze</i>
<i> the couple's phone records.</i>

321
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:02,179
[andre]<i> katrina talks about</i>
<i> seeing david on the 21st.</i>

322
00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:05,216
And, in her phone calls,
ah, in the, I think,

323
00:18:05,284 --> 00:18:07,418
Three-four weeks up to that,

324
00:18:07,486 --> 00:18:09,320
<i> There were a lot</i>
<i> of phone contacts</i>

325
00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:10,755
<i> Between their two phones.</i>

326
00:18:12,992 --> 00:18:14,558
<i> What is interesting is,</i>

327
00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:19,096
After 2-3 o'clock in
the afternoon on the 22nd,

328
00:18:19,165 --> 00:18:20,964
<i> There is no more contact</i>

329
00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:23,434
<i> Between katrina's phone</i>
<i> and david's phone.</i>

330
00:18:23,502 --> 00:18:25,903
Why does that suddenly stop?

331
00:18:25,972 --> 00:18:29,440
<i> She never tried to</i>
<i> contact him after the 22nd.</i>

332
00:18:29,508 --> 00:18:31,943
We found him dead
on Friday the 24th.

333
00:18:34,146 --> 00:18:36,413
[narrator]<i> katrina's</i>
<i> photos and web history</i>

334
00:18:36,482 --> 00:18:39,650
<i> Are even more incriminating.</i>

335
00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:41,953
That extraction revealed
web searches

336
00:18:42,021 --> 00:18:43,387
For interesting things

337
00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:45,890
<i> Like, "crimes of</i>
<i> passion in indiana",</i>

338
00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:51,395
<i> "what it takes to get an arrest</i>
<i> warrant for murder in indiana",</i>

339
00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:55,399
<i> Very concerning</i>
<i> and questionable things.</i>

340
00:18:55,401 --> 00:18:57,000
[greg]<i> within that,</i>
<i> in her pictures,</i>

341
00:18:57,002 --> 00:19:01,772
We found a screenshot
of the death cap mushroom.

342
00:19:01,841 --> 00:19:04,709
Deadly ones like the death cap,
you eat it and you are dead.

343
00:19:08,347 --> 00:19:11,916
[narrator]<i> for investigators,</i>
<i> it all points to one theory.</i>

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00:19:13,086 --> 00:19:14,217
[greg]<i> we strongly believe that</i>

345
00:19:14,219 --> 00:19:16,087
These mushrooms
played a huge part

346
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:18,188
And likely killed david.

347
00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,825
<i> And the death cap mushroom is</i>
<i> the one that was on her phone.</i>

348
00:19:22,394 --> 00:19:24,395
From the cell site
location information,

349
00:19:24,463 --> 00:19:26,297
David's phone
never left pendleton

350
00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:29,300
<i> And katrina had, had not</i>
<i> tried calling him again,</i>

351
00:19:29,368 --> 00:19:32,135
Which suggest she knows

352
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:34,371
Exactly what has happened
to david.

353
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,573
<i> He's already gone.</i>

354
00:19:40,546 --> 00:19:41,879
[narrator]
<i> now that investigators</i>

355
00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:45,983
<i> Have zeroed in on katrina</i>
<i> being involved in david's death</i>

356
00:19:46,051 --> 00:19:50,287
<i> The question is</i>
<i> whether she acted alone.</i>

357
00:19:50,356 --> 00:19:53,791
[andre]<i> an additional review of</i>
<i> the phone records reveals that</i>

358
00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,593
Katrina has a very close friend,

359
00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:58,696
A lot of contact
with terry hopkins.

360
00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:02,700
Terry hopkins cares for
katrina's dad, glen.

361
00:20:02,768 --> 00:20:04,334
Deputies are trying to
figure out

362
00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:07,270
Exactly what
their relationship is.

363
00:20:07,272 --> 00:20:08,606
<i> Sometimes it almost seems like</i>

364
00:20:08,674 --> 00:20:11,208
<i> A boyfriend-girlfriend</i>
<i> relationship,</i>

365
00:20:11,276 --> 00:20:14,412
And sometimes it seems like
a father-daughter relationship.

366
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,414
<i> So, we're thinking,</i>
<i> "is terry involved?"</i>

367
00:20:17,483 --> 00:20:20,618
[narrator]<i> there is no doubt</i>
<i> that terry cares for katrina,</i>

368
00:20:20,686 --> 00:20:22,586
<i> And messages between the two</i>

369
00:20:22,654 --> 00:20:26,323
<i> Make his feelings</i>
<i> about david clear.</i>

370
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:28,425
David and terry
did not get along.

371
00:20:28,494 --> 00:20:29,860
<i> They hated each other.</i>

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[theme music]

373
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Heme music]
[narrator]<i> after</i>
<i> phone records reveal</i>

374
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<i> Terry hopkins'</i>
<i> close relationship</i>

375
00:20:49,615 --> 00:20:51,449
<i> With katrina fauts</i>

376
00:20:51,451 --> 00:20:54,385
<i> And his intense hatred</i>
<i> for her husband,</i>

377
00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:56,954
<i> Indiana detectives</i>
<i> must investigate</i>

378
00:20:57,022 --> 00:21:00,291
<i> Whether one or both</i>
<i> could be responsible for</i>

379
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,493
<i> David fauts's murder.</i>

380
00:21:03,763 --> 00:21:05,296
[chris]<i> we looked</i>
<i> into terry hopkins</i>

381
00:21:05,364 --> 00:21:06,764
<i> And we find out that he was</i>

382
00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:08,399
<i> A former richmond police</i>
<i> officer,</i>

383
00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:11,435
And that he'd been retired.

384
00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:16,840
[narrator]<i> on April 26th,</i>

385
00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:19,843
<i> Two days after</i>
<i> david's body was found,</i>

386
00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:24,548
<i> Detectives request that</i>
<i> katrina come to the station.</i>

387
00:21:24,550 --> 00:21:28,051
We asked if she and terry
had ever been romantic,

388
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,688
And she kind of laughed
and said, "no."

389
00:21:30,756 --> 00:21:34,357
<i> She described terry as</i>
<i> a father from another mother,</i>

390
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,726
<i> A dear family friend,</i>

391
00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:38,929
As well as the caretaker
for her father.

392
00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:40,364
<i> They lived in richmond</i>

393
00:21:40,433 --> 00:21:41,599
<i> And they'd been friends</i>
<i> for some time.</i>

394
00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:44,935
[deb]<i> he got to know her father</i>

395
00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:47,705
<i> Through an organization</i>
<i> in the community.</i>

396
00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,940
And they formed a friendship.

397
00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:54,611
And her father slowly started
showing signs of dementia.

398
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,082
<i> So, terry assisted him</i>
<i> in day-to-day living tasks.</i>

399
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,352
[greg]<i> terry was known to have,</i>
<i> according to katrina,</i>

400
00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:03,454
<i> Some health issues as well.</i>

401
00:22:03,522 --> 00:22:05,022
He was diabetic.

402
00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,957
He had congestive heart failure.

403
00:22:10,295 --> 00:22:11,595
[andre]<i> they talked to her about</i>

404
00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,297
<i> When they would have</i>
<i> been together last,</i>

405
00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:16,734
And she indicated that,
on the night of the 21st,

406
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:21,171
<i> That there had been plans</i>
<i> for katrina, terry,</i>

407
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:23,440
<i> And katrina's dad, glen.</i>

408
00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:25,042
[greg]<i> glen decided</i>
<i> he did not wanna come.</i>

409
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:28,779
<i> So, terry met her at</i>
<i> a close-by convenience store,</i>

410
00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:32,249
And then they went
and picked up food

411
00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:33,918
<i> And went to the country house.</i>

412
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,388
[andre]<i> it got late,</i>
<i> so they fell asleep.</i>

413
00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:39,757
<i> And when one of</i>
<i> them finally roused,</i>

414
00:22:39,825 --> 00:22:41,892
<i> It was, like,</i>
<i> three in the morning.</i>

415
00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:44,728
They split
and went back to their homes.

416
00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:47,565
Thursday, terry had come back up

417
00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:50,167
And was nice enough
to bring her this,

418
00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:51,102
Uh, hydraulic lift cart

419
00:22:51,170 --> 00:22:55,639
To help her move articles
around the country house.

420
00:22:55,641 --> 00:22:57,741
And that was pretty much
all the summation

421
00:22:57,743 --> 00:22:59,944
Of what she said
that they had done.

422
00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,014
[narrator]<i> rather than</i>
<i> take katrina's story</i>

423
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:05,582
<i> At face value,</i>

424
00:23:05,651 --> 00:23:07,551
<i> Investigators use cell data</i>

425
00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:10,120
<i> To track her</i>
<i> and terry's locations</i>

426
00:23:10,189 --> 00:23:13,524
<i> Leading up to</i>
<i> the time david was killed.</i>

427
00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:19,029
[greg]<i> we learned terry</i>
<i> came up to meet with katrina</i>

428
00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:22,466
<i> Around six o'clock</i>
<i> in the evening.</i>

429
00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:24,067
<i> We have video surveillance</i>
<i> from a bank</i>

430
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:27,370
<i> Of them going toward</i>
<i> the country house.</i>

431
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,473
<i> Their gps services</i>
<i> put them at the country house</i>

432
00:23:30,475 --> 00:23:32,609
<i> For an extended period of time.</i>

433
00:23:32,678 --> 00:23:35,746
At some point in
the wee hours of the 22nd,

434
00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:38,482
<i> Both their phones</i>
<i> are shut off for gps</i>

435
00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:40,217
<i> And/or powered down.</i>

436
00:23:40,285 --> 00:23:42,453
<i> So, we do not know where</i>
<i> they're at, at that point.</i>

437
00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:45,789
The services were
turned on again around

438
00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:47,424
11:00 in the morning

439
00:23:47,493 --> 00:23:50,995
<i> And katrina pretty much</i>
<i> stayed at home for that day.</i>

440
00:23:54,499 --> 00:23:57,200
<i> That was a pretty big flag.</i>

441
00:23:57,202 --> 00:24:00,137
So, it is our belief
that katrina and terry

442
00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,573
<i> Shut off their,</i>
<i> their cellphone devices</i>

443
00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:05,008
<i> So they couldn't be located.</i>

444
00:24:05,077 --> 00:24:08,111
<i> Based upon a totality</i>
<i> of the circumstances,</i>

445
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,780
<i> That gave us</i>
<i> enough probable cause</i>

446
00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:12,283
To actually get search warrants.

447
00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:18,655
<i> On the 29th of April,</i>

448
00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:20,891
<i> We executed</i>
<i> three search warrants.</i>

449
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,895
One in richmond at terry
and glen gentry's house,

450
00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:26,429
<i> The other at</i>
<i> the pendleton house,</i>

451
00:24:26,499 --> 00:24:30,934
<i> And then the last one</i>
<i> was at the country house.</i>

452
00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:34,905
Nothing of substance was really
located at the pendleton house,

453
00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:36,640
<i> But there was</i>
<i> a walkie-talkie found</i>

454
00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:40,878
<i> In the glovebox of</i>
<i> katrina's vehicle.</i>

455
00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:44,781
It just kind of seemed
out of place because,

456
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:46,249
Why would this middle-aged lady

457
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,818
<i> Have a walkie-talkie</i>
<i> in her vehicle?</i>

458
00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,991
[narrator]<i> the country</i>
<i> house also provides</i>

459
00:24:54,059 --> 00:24:57,227
<i> Some interesting discoveries.</i>

460
00:24:57,296 --> 00:24:59,597
They find a rifle sling

461
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,933
That is the same brand
as the rifle sling

462
00:25:03,002 --> 00:25:04,602
<i> That was found</i>
<i> around david's body.</i>

463
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:07,905
To our knowledge,
david didn't own rifles.

464
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:09,773
Katrina's dad owned rifles,

465
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:13,343
But david really wasn't
there using the rifles,

466
00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:16,279
The rifle slings.

467
00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,080
[narrator]<i> in the garage,</i>

468
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:19,716
<i> Detectives find</i>
<i> the hydraulic cart</i>

469
00:25:19,785 --> 00:25:21,618
<i> Katrina told them</i>
<i> terry had brought</i>

470
00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,821
<i> When they last saw each other.</i>

471
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:26,756
On top of the cart
is a piece of cardboard

472
00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:27,758
That has a footprint on it,

473
00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:30,794
<i> Or a footwear impression</i>
<i> of a shoe.</i>

474
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:34,431
There's another piece
that has tire tread impressions.

475
00:25:34,499 --> 00:25:36,933
<i> So, we take all those things.</i>

476
00:25:37,002 --> 00:25:38,134
In all this moving,

477
00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:40,603
We do move a mat
that's right inside the door

478
00:25:40,605 --> 00:25:42,139
From the garage to the house.

479
00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:43,941
And there is,
uh, what appears to be

480
00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:46,911
<i> A little bit of blood on</i>
<i> the floor underneath this mat.</i>

481
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:55,252
[narrator]<i> samples of</i>
<i> the blood are taken for testing</i>

482
00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:56,987
<i> If it's david's,</i>

483
00:25:57,056 --> 00:26:00,758
<i> This is likely</i>
<i> the true crime scene.</i>

484
00:26:00,826 --> 00:26:02,359
[chris]<i> the rifle</i>
<i> sling on his body</i>

485
00:26:02,427 --> 00:26:03,961
<i> And the rifle sling</i>
<i> found in the house,</i>

486
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:05,395
It just kind of
was consistent that,

487
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:07,598
"hey, we need some
kind of leather strap

488
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,167
"or some kind of way
to hoist this body.

489
00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:12,035
<i> Let's use that."</i>

490
00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:13,070
<i> Then they have to figure out,</i>

491
00:26:13,138 --> 00:26:15,138
<i> "okay, now he's in the garage.</i>

492
00:26:15,207 --> 00:26:19,176
"how do we use this cart
to load him into the car

493
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:22,313
<i> And move him from here</i>
<i> over and dump him?"</i>

494
00:26:27,687 --> 00:26:28,952
[narrator]
<i> the final search warrant</i>

495
00:26:28,954 --> 00:26:33,324
<i> Executed at terry's home</i>
<i> only heightens their suspicions</i>

496
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,959
[greg]<i> in the back</i>
<i> of terry's car,</i>

497
00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:39,530
We found a box of
miscellaneous articles.

498
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,031
<i> A box cutter.</i>

499
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,866
<i> There was a roll of duct tape.</i>

500
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,968
<i> There was, uh, what's</i>
<i> called a dead-blow hammer,</i>

501
00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:47,071
<i> Which is like a plastic hammer</i>
<i> that's filled with sand.</i>

502
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:50,407
[narrator]<i> investigators</i>
<i> also track down</i>

503
00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:53,844
<i> Receipts and surveillance</i>
<i> from a local hardware store</i>

504
00:26:53,912 --> 00:26:56,914
<i> Where terry purchased the items</i>

505
00:26:56,982 --> 00:26:58,348
[chris]<i> not only do</i>
<i> they buy this big cart,</i>

506
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:00,650
<i> But a couple of</i>
<i> different knives,</i>

507
00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:03,386
Duct tape, zip ties,
rubber gloves,

508
00:27:03,456 --> 00:27:05,422
<i> A tarp, some rope,</i>

509
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:07,090
<i> Things that you may want to get</i>

510
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:09,193
If you are involved
in a homicide.

511
00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:14,697
<i> We also search</i>
<i> terry's f-150 pickup truck.</i>

512
00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:17,768
I find a onn walkie-talkie

513
00:27:17,836 --> 00:27:20,070
That matches exactly to the one

514
00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:21,805
<i> That I found in</i>
<i> katrina's vehicle.</i>

515
00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:28,879
They were both set to
channel 10, subchannel 11.

516
00:27:30,849 --> 00:27:33,416
It is our belief
that katrina and terry,

517
00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:36,319
When they shut off their,
their cellphone phone devices,

518
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:40,891
<i> They used these walkie-talkies</i>
<i> to communicate.</i>

519
00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:47,064
[narrator]
<i> while this evidence alone</i>

520
00:27:47,132 --> 00:27:49,532
<i> Doesn't justify</i>
<i> an arrest warrant,</i>

521
00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:54,204
<i> It does lead law enforcement</i>
<i> to a likely conclusion.</i>

522
00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:57,241
[chris]<i> there is no smoking gun,</i>
<i> if you will, in this case.</i>

523
00:27:58,577 --> 00:28:00,944
We have to take all these
little pieces of a puzzle

524
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,513
And put them together.

525
00:28:03,582 --> 00:28:05,115
This picture is, you know,

526
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,684
That terry and katrina

527
00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:09,753
<i> Were in cahoots</i>
<i> to get rid of david.</i>

528
00:28:12,557 --> 00:28:13,990
[narrator]<i> coming up,</i>

529
00:28:14,059 --> 00:28:18,061
<i> Detectives uncover</i>
<i> a chilling pattern of behavior.</i>

530
00:28:18,063 --> 00:28:21,732
<i> She would've blown up my house,</i>
<i> cashed that check,</i>

531
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,500
And she would've been gone.

532
00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:24,901
[narrator]<i> but will it be enough</i>

533
00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:28,539
<i> To bring a suspected killer</i>
<i> to justice?</i>

534
00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:33,210
I think she saw the slow decline
in logical thinking

535
00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:35,112
<i> And she used it</i>
<i> to her advantage.</i>

536
00:28:36,815 --> 00:28:40,818
[theme music]

537
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:51,794
[narrator]<i> five days into</i>
<i> the murder investigation</i>

538
00:28:51,796 --> 00:28:53,296
<i> Of david fauts,</i>

539
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:55,632
<i> A mountain of</i>
<i> circumstantial evidence</i>

540
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:56,867
<i> Has been gathered,</i>

541
00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:59,135
<i> Incriminating</i>
<i> his widow, katrina,</i>

542
00:28:59,204 --> 00:29:02,673
<i> And her friend, terry hopkins.</i>

543
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,341
<i> When investigators ask katrina</i>

544
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:07,143
<i> To explain</i>
<i> the evidence they found,</i>

545
00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:10,113
<i> She answers with a lawyer.</i>

546
00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:12,449
<i> So instead,</i>
<i> they bring terry in</i>

547
00:29:12,451 --> 00:29:13,817
<i> For questioning.</i>

548
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:19,656
Here we are about
four or five days after,

549
00:29:19,725 --> 00:29:21,792
Uh, after david's body
was found.

550
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:24,928
<i> And we see</i>
<i> there's massive bruising</i>

551
00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:26,563
<i> On terry's chest.</i>

552
00:29:26,631 --> 00:29:29,266
<i> There's all these abrasions</i>
<i> on, on terry's hands.</i>

553
00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:30,767
<i> It looked like he'd been--</i>

554
00:29:30,836 --> 00:29:32,569
He'd had a rough go
at some point.

555
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:36,539
I thought we are definitely
on to something here.

556
00:29:36,609 --> 00:29:37,941
That he is involved.

557
00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:06,536
[narrator]<i> with terry exercising</i>
<i> his right to an attorney,</i>

558
00:30:06,605 --> 00:30:09,940
<i> Investigators pivot</i>
<i> their focus back to katrina.</i>

559
00:30:11,009 --> 00:30:12,743
<i> A deeper look into her past</i>

560
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:15,379
<i> Provides some revealing</i>
<i> information.</i>

561
00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:19,149
[andre]<i> she had a conviction</i>
<i> for false informing,</i>

562
00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:20,918
Rising out of
a rape investigation.

563
00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:23,420
[greg]<i> I think</i>
<i> it was a rough timeframe</i>

564
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,623
<i> Of 2009 to 2011.</i>

565
00:30:26,691 --> 00:30:30,093
She had engaged in
a sexual act with someone

566
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,462
<i> And then had said</i>
<i> that she had been raped.</i>

567
00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:37,634
[narrator]<i> the accused</i>
<i> insisted the sex was consensual</i>

568
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:40,136
<i> And an official police</i>
<i> investigation determined</i>

569
00:30:40,205 --> 00:30:42,839
<i> The allegations were false.</i>

570
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,474
<i> As a result,</i>

571
00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:47,444
<i> Katrina was formally charged</i>
<i> with false informing.</i>

572
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:50,547
[greg]<i> katrina was</i>
<i> subsequently forced to pay for</i>

573
00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:52,349
<i> The state police swat team,</i>

574
00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:55,219
<i> All their fuel, all their</i>
<i> overtime, and everything.</i>

575
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:00,557
[narrator]
<i> when investigators speak to</i>

576
00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:03,526
<i> Katrina's ex-boyfriend,</i>
<i> joe o'brien,</i>

577
00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:06,930
<i> He says lying</i>
<i> came naturally to her.</i>

578
00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:10,200
[joe]<i> I met her</i>
<i> through her first husband.</i>

579
00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:13,236
<i> The marriage ended in 2013.</i>

580
00:31:13,238 --> 00:31:17,374
<i> She shows up and tells me</i>
<i> that she's back in town,</i>

581
00:31:17,442 --> 00:31:19,876
<i> But she doesn't have</i>
<i> a place to stay.</i>

582
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,545
So, I let her stay at my place.

583
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:27,250
Katrina is a person
who, one-on-one,

584
00:31:27,252 --> 00:31:29,085
<i> She will try to best you.</i>

585
00:31:29,154 --> 00:31:33,190
<i> She has to be the focus</i>
<i> of everybody in the room.</i>

586
00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:35,458
<i> And if you listen to</i>
<i> some of her stories,</i>

587
00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:38,362
<i> You'll know right off</i>
<i> the bat that they're lies.</i>

588
00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:44,100
[narrator]<i> according to joe,</i>

589
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:49,105
<i> Katrina only cared</i>
<i> about one thing--money.</i>

590
00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:53,042
If that person is giving
her money, she's happy.

591
00:31:53,112 --> 00:31:54,577
<i> But the moment that person says</i>

592
00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:56,046
<i> "you're not getting</i>
<i> another dime from me,"</i>

593
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:57,514
She's going on
to the next person.

594
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:01,284
[narrator]<i> joe says</i>
<i> katrina's behavior</i>

595
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:03,219
<i> Became even more alarming</i>

596
00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:05,322
<i> Right before their break-up.</i>

597
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,458
[joe]<i> I had been</i>
<i> in a car accident.</i>

598
00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:10,427
And the first words
out of her mouth were,

599
00:32:10,495 --> 00:32:13,997
"oh my god, we need
to get life insurance.

600
00:32:14,066 --> 00:32:17,600
<i> What's gonna happen to me</i>
<i> if you were to get killed?"</i>

601
00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:20,470
She just kept pressuring me
every day,

602
00:32:20,539 --> 00:32:22,873
"have you looked into
getting life insurance?"

603
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,140
<i> And I finally broke down.</i>

604
00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:27,044
I looked into it,
gave her a price of

605
00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:28,512
<i> A half a million dollars.</i>

606
00:32:32,817 --> 00:32:34,817
<i> One day, in the basement,</i>

607
00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:40,190
I found a basket that is
not supposed to be there.

608
00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:43,193
<i> And in that basket,</i>
<i> I found five grenades.</i>

609
00:32:44,529 --> 00:32:47,764
<i> They were right underneath</i>
<i> my chair that I sat in</i>

610
00:32:47,832 --> 00:32:49,632
<i> On the floor above that.</i>

611
00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:52,469
I think she was
going to kill me.

612
00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:57,107
She would've blown up
my house, cashed that check,

613
00:32:57,175 --> 00:32:58,342
And she would've been gone.

614
00:32:59,844 --> 00:33:02,044
[narrator]<i> although katrina</i>
<i> was never charged with anything</i>

615
00:33:02,046 --> 00:33:03,647
<i> Regarding joe,</i>

616
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,015
<i> To investigators,</i>

617
00:33:05,083 --> 00:33:06,983
<i> The pattern of behavior suggest</i>

618
00:33:07,051 --> 00:33:10,387
<i> She'd be capable of doing</i>
<i> something similar with david.</i>

619
00:33:15,594 --> 00:33:17,928
<i> To find out if</i>
<i> terry was the kind of man</i>

620
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,930
<i> Who'd be a willing accomplice,</i>

621
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:23,567
<i> Detectives talk to his ex-wife,</i>
<i> deb hopkins.</i>

622
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,438
[deb]<i> I was interviewed by</i>

623
00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,673
The hamilton county
sheriff's department.

624
00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:32,743
They wanted to get to know
terry's character.

625
00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:36,212
<i> We were high school sweethearts</i>

626
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:39,049
I just fell in love
with his personality.

627
00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:43,820
<i> He was fun loving,</i>
<i> onery, gentle, kind,</i>

628
00:33:43,888 --> 00:33:46,656
<i> Everything that I always</i>
<i> enjoyed in a person.</i>

629
00:33:47,992 --> 00:33:49,526
[narrator]
<i> deb tells investigators</i>

630
00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:52,095
<i> Terry began his career</i>
<i> in law enforcement</i>

631
00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:54,697
<i> Right after they were married.</i>

632
00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:58,001
He, um, started out
obviously as a patrolman.

633
00:33:58,069 --> 00:33:59,436
<i> When he retired,</i>

634
00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:01,638
<i> He was the captain</i>
<i> over internal affairs.</i>

635
00:34:05,276 --> 00:34:07,009
[narrator]<i> but in 2014,</i>

636
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,179
<i> A year after his retirement,</i>

637
00:34:09,247 --> 00:34:12,649
<i> Terry's health</i>
<i> took a turn for the worst.</i>

638
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,650
[deb]<i> he had</i>
<i> a frontal lobe stroke.</i>

639
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,452
<i> We don't know</i>
<i> what brought it on.</i>

640
00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:18,622
But I noticed
a change in his personality.

641
00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:42,012
[narrator]<i> deb filed</i>
<i> for divorce in 2019</i>

642
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,548
<i> After 45 years of marriage.</i>

643
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:47,817
<i> That's when katrina stepped in,</i>

644
00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:50,587
<i> Asking terry to move in</i>
<i> with her father.</i>

645
00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:53,556
[deb]<i> he and katrina's dad</i>
<i> were friends</i>

646
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:55,892
<i> For approximately ten years.</i>

647
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,429
Terry just moved in
with him to help him.

648
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:05,702
[narrator]<i> deb says</i>
<i> katrina used the situation</i>

649
00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:09,673
<i> To turn terry</i>
<i> against her husband, david.</i>

650
00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:15,344
Terry liked david.
And as the marriage went on,

651
00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:18,581
<i> He started getting</i>
<i> the, "oh, he's abusing me."</i>

652
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:22,251
<i> The hatred of david</i>
<i> was very evident.</i>

653
00:35:22,321 --> 00:35:24,520
I mean, you could see,
physically see,

654
00:35:24,522 --> 00:35:26,823
Tense muscles, clenched jaw

655
00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:29,325
<i> Whenever he would</i>
<i> talk about david.</i>

656
00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:34,131
I think she saw the slow decline
in logical thinking

657
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,167
<i> And thought processes</i>
<i> and judgment.</i>

658
00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:39,202
<i> And I think she used it</i>
<i> to her advantage.</i>

659
00:35:54,552 --> 00:35:56,886
[narrator]<i> what detectives</i>
<i> still need, however,</i>

660
00:35:56,888 --> 00:36:00,223
<i> Is physical evidence</i>
<i> linking terry and katrina</i>

661
00:36:00,292 --> 00:36:02,358
<i> To david's murder.</i>

662
00:36:02,427 --> 00:36:04,794
<i> They hope science</i>
<i> will provide it.</i>

663
00:36:06,665 --> 00:36:07,730
[greg]<i> the shirt</i>
<i> that was wrapped around</i>

664
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:11,367
<i> David's left wrist</i>
<i> was sent for dna analysis,</i>

665
00:36:11,436 --> 00:36:15,538
And we learned it
contained david's dna,

666
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:19,141
But a lot of blood on it
belonged to terry hopkins.

667
00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:21,544
<i> I can't justify</i>
<i> why terry's blood</i>

668
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:24,247
Would be on david's shirt.

669
00:36:24,315 --> 00:36:26,382
<i> When did they come into contact</i>

670
00:36:26,451 --> 00:36:28,351
[andre]<i> also,</i>
<i> terry and katrina's dna</i>

671
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:30,553
<i> Was on the cardboard box</i>
<i> for the lift cart.</i>

672
00:36:30,622 --> 00:36:33,256
<i> Terry's dna was on</i>
<i> the lift cart itself</i>

673
00:36:33,325 --> 00:36:35,391
And david's dna
was on the rubber mat

674
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:38,728
That would have been
on top of the lift cart.

675
00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:40,130
<i> And that was all</i>

676
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,933
Very significant
forensic evidence.

677
00:36:44,536 --> 00:36:46,803
<i> The concept</i>
<i> that we have is that</i>

678
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:49,439
He had been,
in some way, incapacitated

679
00:36:49,507 --> 00:36:51,407
At the pendleton house.

680
00:36:51,476 --> 00:36:54,411
<i> From there, was killed,</i>
<i> loaded in the car.</i>

681
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:56,813
<i> Because there's no</i>
<i> clear explanation,</i>

682
00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:59,315
Nor really is there
a reasonable one,

683
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:01,818
<i> That says that</i>
<i> terry's and katrina's dna</i>

684
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,987
<i> Are involved in</i>
<i> the box and the cart</i>

685
00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:06,656
<i> And david's on the mat</i>

686
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:09,726
That doesn't involve
katrina and terry

687
00:37:09,794 --> 00:37:11,428
<i> Being directly involved with</i>

688
00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:13,530
<i> The transportation</i>
<i> of david's body.</i>

689
00:37:17,568 --> 00:37:19,702
[narrator]<i> but even</i>
<i> with the dna evidence,</i>

690
00:37:19,771 --> 00:37:24,374
<i> Investigators still</i>
<i> have big questions.</i>

691
00:37:24,442 --> 00:37:26,542
At the end of the day,

692
00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:29,445
We couldn't prove that
the mushrooms killed him.

693
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:31,981
[greg]<i> any samples</i>
<i> we had from david</i>

694
00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:35,852
Did not test positive for
the, the muscarine toxin,

695
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,255
<i> Which is the toxin,</i>
<i> again, that could kill you.</i>

696
00:37:39,324 --> 00:37:40,590
<i> We didn't know how he died.</i>

697
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,925
It is almost the perfect murder.

698
00:37:42,994 --> 00:37:44,794
<i> I don't think there was</i>
<i> a point where we thought</i>

699
00:37:44,863 --> 00:37:46,696
<i> We wouldn't be able to solve it</i>

700
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,665
But, will the prosecutor
accept charges?

701
00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:51,368
<i> That was the issue.</i>

702
00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:57,507
[theme music]

703
00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:09,419
[theme music]
[narrator]<i> after</i>
<i> a five-month investigation,</i>

704
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:11,621
<i> Indiana detectives</i>
<i> take their findings</i>

705
00:38:11,689 --> 00:38:13,856
<i> To the district</i>
<i> attorney's office,</i>

706
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:16,693
<i> Looking for arrest warrants</i>
<i> for katrina fauts</i>

707
00:38:16,761 --> 00:38:18,695
<i> And terry hopkins.</i>

708
00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:23,566
[greg]<i> the weirdest thing about</i>
<i> this case is the mushrooms.</i>

709
00:38:23,568 --> 00:38:25,768
<i> The murder was almost perfect.</i>

710
00:38:25,837 --> 00:38:28,438
<i> But there are certain things</i>
<i> that you can't get away from.</i>

711
00:38:28,506 --> 00:38:29,939
They overthought it.

712
00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:31,908
They did stupid stuff
in the end.

713
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:40,316
[narrator]<i> the da agrees</i>
<i> the evidence is compelling.</i>

714
00:38:40,384 --> 00:38:45,054
<i> On September 17, 2020,</i>
<i> the arrests are made.</i>

715
00:38:46,091 --> 00:38:48,524
[greg]<i> terry had a lot of guns.</i>
<i> He was living in a house</i>

716
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:52,128
Which he and his ex-wife
were supposed to be selling.

717
00:38:52,197 --> 00:38:53,930
<i> We surrounded his house,</i>

718
00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:56,032
<i> Used a swat team</i>
<i> to call him out.</i>

719
00:38:57,169 --> 00:38:59,669
<i> There was a point where,</i>
<i> where I was worried.</i>

720
00:38:59,737 --> 00:39:02,438
I thought he was just
gonna commit suicide.

721
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:03,606
<i> But he finally came out.</i>

722
00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:08,978
[andre]<i> katrina was arrested</i>
<i> through a traffic stop.</i>

723
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:11,514
<i> She has two phones with her.</i>
<i> One is a burner phone,</i>

724
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:14,217
And she also has
$40,000 in cash.

725
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,120
[narrator]<i> if katrina</i>
<i> was planning to flee,</i>

726
00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:19,956
<i> It's too late now.</i>

727
00:39:23,227 --> 00:39:26,195
[greg]<i> katrina had</i>
<i> made me promise her</i>

728
00:39:26,197 --> 00:39:28,898
<i> That I would let her see</i>
<i> the killer.</i>

729
00:39:28,967 --> 00:39:31,201
So, I walked into her jail cell,

730
00:39:31,269 --> 00:39:34,003
<i> And I had a clipboard</i>
<i> with a mirror on it,</i>

731
00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:35,638
<i> And I made her</i>
<i> look at me, and said,</i>

732
00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:37,941
<i> "here she is, you did it."</i>

733
00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:44,013
<i> And she looked</i>
<i> back down and said,</i>

734
00:39:44,082 --> 00:39:46,015
<i> "he doesn't even</i>
<i> like mushrooms."</i>

735
00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:48,485
<i> That was all she said,</i>
<i> and I walked out.</i>

736
00:39:52,023 --> 00:39:55,091
[narrator]<i> detectives find terry</i>
<i> more willing to cooperate</i>

737
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:59,295
<i> Now that he's free of</i>
<i> katrina's influence.</i>

738
00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:03,599
[greg]<i> he told us that</i>
<i> katrina had devised a plan to</i>

739
00:40:03,668 --> 00:40:05,968
<i> Feed david mushrooms.</i>

740
00:40:05,970 --> 00:40:09,638
That that night, they did
indeed meet on the 21st.

741
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,074
<i> They came back to</i>
<i> the pendleton house.</i>

742
00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:15,144
<i> Katrina walked in</i>
<i> and said to the effect of,</i>

743
00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:17,947
<i> "honey, did you eat those</i>
<i> mushrooms I made for you?"</i>

744
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:20,516
<i> And david said, "yes."</i>
<i> said he didn't feel good</i>

745
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,785
<i> And was having trouble</i>
<i> with breathing.</i>

746
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:24,687
<i> At that point, terry walked in</i>

747
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:28,691
<i> And there was</i>
<i> an altercation of some sort.</i>

748
00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:30,092
<i> Terry said he put</i>
<i> his arm around david's neck</i>

749
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:32,328
<i> And just kind of squeezed him,</i>

750
00:40:32,397 --> 00:40:34,597
<i> And david stopped moving.</i>

751
00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:40,136
So, we asked, "well, how did
you get david into a car?

752
00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:42,672
Was he dead or alive
when you got him in a car?"

753
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:44,507
<i> "I don't really remember."</i>

754
00:40:44,575 --> 00:40:45,708
<i> He couldn't keep</i>
<i> his story straight</i>

755
00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:48,344
<i> Because of illness</i>
<i> at that point.</i>

756
00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:50,980
[narrator]<i> due to terry's</i>
<i> quickly declining health,</i>

757
00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:53,116
<i> He never makes it to court.</i>

758
00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:56,519
[andre]<i> his health just</i>
<i> continued to deteriorate.</i>

759
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,921
<i> His heart was failing him.</i>

760
00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:02,492
And, ultimately, before
he could be brought to trial,

761
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,660
He passed away.

762
00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:12,601
[narrator]<i> in 2022,</i>
<i> katrina's murder trial begins.</i>

763
00:41:12,671 --> 00:41:14,604
<i> Without terry's confession,</i>

764
00:41:14,672 --> 00:41:17,273
<i> The case is</i>
<i> largely circumstantial.</i>

765
00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:20,610
What we had was
physical evidence that had dna

766
00:41:20,678 --> 00:41:22,144
That had microanalysis

767
00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:24,914
<i> That kind of matched</i>
<i> everybody together.</i>

768
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:25,915
[greg]<i> either alive or dead,</i>

769
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:28,685
David was transported
to the country house.

770
00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:30,320
<i> His body was stored</i>
<i> there for two days.</i>

771
00:41:31,556 --> 00:41:34,023
[chris]<i> david was</i>
<i> around 200 pounds.</i>

772
00:41:34,092 --> 00:41:36,125
<i> The rifle sling was</i>
<i> something they could just grab</i>

773
00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:37,693
When they're trying
to figure out,

774
00:41:37,762 --> 00:41:39,395
"how are we gonna
move this body?"

775
00:41:39,464 --> 00:41:41,263
<i> Then, using this hydraulic cart</i>

776
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,365
<i> They could jack the body</i>
<i> up off the ground</i>

777
00:41:43,367 --> 00:41:46,669
<i> And push it into</i>
<i> wherever they needed to.</i>

778
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:48,404
The night of the 23rd
into the 24th,

779
00:41:48,472 --> 00:41:49,672
<i> They used the walkie-talkies</i>

780
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:53,009
<i> To coordinate between</i>
<i> the two cars and dump the body.</i>

781
00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:58,681
[narrator]<i> the defense argues</i>

782
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,352
<i> The state's theory</i>
<i> is just that--a theory.</i>

783
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:05,221
<i> There's no way to prove</i>
<i> beyond a reasonable doubt</i>

784
00:42:05,290 --> 00:42:07,656
<i> Katrina was involved.</i>

785
00:42:07,726 --> 00:42:11,193
<i> The jury agrees--in part.</i>

786
00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:14,296
She was not found
guilty of murder.

787
00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:17,533
[andre]<i> the jury just couldn't</i>
<i> be sure that she killed him,</i>

788
00:42:17,602 --> 00:42:21,638
But they knew that she had made
an agreement to kill david,

789
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:23,973
That certain overt acts
had been taken.

790
00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:28,278
[narrator]<i> instead,</i>
<i> they find katrina guilty of</i>

791
00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:30,379
<i> Conspiracy to commit murder</i>

792
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:34,416
<i> And failure to</i>
<i> report human remains.</i>

793
00:42:34,418 --> 00:42:36,686
Katrina was sentenced
to 34 years in prison.

794
00:42:37,822 --> 00:42:39,755
[deb]<i> I felt</i>
<i> she should've got life.</i>

795
00:42:39,824 --> 00:42:41,123
She took a life.

796
00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:42,825
I think she should've been
in there for life.

797
00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:45,327
But indiana says different.

798
00:42:45,329 --> 00:42:47,497
[joe]<i> she's in the best place</i>
<i> that she can be right now.</i>

799
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:52,835
I just feel that whoever is her
friend in prison, think twice.

800
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,075
[music]

801
00:42:59,143 --> 00:43:00,810
[greg]<i> david</i>
<i> finally had a family</i>

802
00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:03,946
<i> And grandkids he loved</i>
<i> unconditionally.</i>

803
00:43:04,014 --> 00:43:08,184
And katrina's daughter,
I know that they loved him.

804
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:10,119
He didn't deserve
to die the way he did.

805
00:43:10,188 --> 00:43:12,922
It's terrible.
Absolutely terrible.

806
00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:18,494
If nothing else,
dave's murder shows us all

807
00:43:18,563 --> 00:43:21,063
That we, we can do
a better job of

808
00:43:21,132 --> 00:43:24,334
<i> Being more interactive</i>
<i> on a human level</i>

809
00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:26,569
<i> With our friends and loved ones</i>

810
00:43:26,637 --> 00:43:30,940
<i> And get the support</i>
<i> that you and we all deserve.</i>

811
00:43:33,344 --> 00:43:43,453
[music]