[Narrator] A divorce fueled by greed and hatred...
They came to make a police report.
She was lookin' for someone to kill her husband.
[Narrator] Investigators rush to save a life that's on the line.
[Jason] There was just no margin for error.
It was truly life or death.
You could tell she was excited
and thrilled with what was goin' on.
[Narrator] A woman determined to kill
shows investigators how far she is willing to go.
[Jason] That let me know that
we are dealing with a truly evil woman.
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[theme music]
[Narrator] Montgomery County, Texas sits at
the northern edge of Houston's massive sprawl.
[Kelly] In the south of Montgomery County,
you have kinda your metropolitan Houston type suburb areas.
North of the county is very rural,
you have ranch communities.
So, you have a wide variety of people.
[Narrator] It's 5 P.M. on July 21, 2015,
when investigators are called to a remote spot
in Montgomery County
and uncover a scene unlike any other.
[Jason] It was a county-owned piece of property
that was very isolated,
had a lot of cover and concealment
due to trees and, and, and high grass.
[Narrator] Detective Jason Martinez
takes in an unsettling scene.
I was standing above the body of a dead man in a grave.
[Kelly] The grave was a shallow grave.
It looked like it was basically dug by hand, by shovels.
The body was wearing nothing but a pair of underwear.
His hands were bound behind his back.
There was an obvious gunshot wound to the head,
a close contact entry wound on the right temple.
It was like he was executed,
and then his body was placed in a hole
where no one else could find it.
[Narrator] Detective Martinez recognizes the victim.
The victim in the grave was Ramon Sosa.
Ramon was pretty well known in the community
as a local business owner.
He started up a boxing gym and he trained young boxers.
He was a mentor to people in our community.
[Narrator] Investigators and crime scene technicians
meticulously process the scene.
[Jason] We took a lot of photos, different angles.
Start outward, work inward. Get up close.
[Narrator] Then, in an instant,
what looks to be the scene of a cold-blooded murder
is transformed...
[indistinct]
Ramon Sosa, R-A-M-O-N S-O-S-A.
All I can hear is the clicking
of the 35mm camera goin' around me,
just taking pictures nonstop.
And then that was it, they said, "Okay, Mr. Sosa, you're done."
[Jason] Once we completed takin' the photos,
we helped Ramon out of the grave.
[Narrator] The "crime scene" is a part of
an elaborate sting operation.
The plan was to stage the murder of Ramon,
to fake Ramon's death.
He was havin' to pretend to be dead to save his own life.
[Ramon] I'm probably one of the few men
that has ever walked out of his own grave alive.
[Narrator] Two weeks earlier, on July 5th, 2015,
48-year-old Ramon Sosa and his good friend Mundo
first walked in to
the Montgomery County Constable's Office.
Ramon and his friend Mundo came to make a police report.
[Narrator] Mundo tells detectives that
a couple of weeks ago,
he overheard a bizarre conversation
between Ramon's wife, Lulu, and Lulu's teenage daughter
at the family-owned gym.
[Ramon] Mundo was at the gym this one evening,
and he walked in front of my office in the gym
and Lulu was talking to her daughter.
[Narrator] Mundo explains
the subject of their conversation
came as a shock.
They were talking about that Lulu wished that Ramon was dead.
Lulu was lookin' for someone to kill her husband.
[Kelly] Mundo decided to take it upon himself and approach Lulu,
and ask her what's goin' on.
That's when he started talkin' with Lulu
in order to make sure,
see, like, anybody would wanna know,
does she really want this to happen?
[Jason] She was a little vague in what she was asking for.
She said she wanted him to disappear.
Mundo wanted to confirm and verify
what she was talkin' about,
and made the motion with his hand,
as though he was holdin' a gun.
[Narrator] Mundo says in another twist he didn't see coming,
Lulu asked for his help.
Mundo had kind of a checkered past.
He had been involved in a gang.
And Lulu tried to enlist Mundo, knowing his history,
to see if he knew anyone that could do what she wanted.
[Narrator] Thinking on his feet,
Mundo went along with Lulu's request.
Mundo told Lulu that he had
someone by the name of Paco that could do the job.
But in fact, Paco didn't exist.
He was very close with Ramon.
He was concerned something was gonna happen,
and so that's why he got involved.
[Narrator] Following the conversation with Lulu,
Mundo tells investigators he called Ramon.
[Ramon] I remember, I get a call from Mundo.
And he tells me, "Hey, hey Pops," you know,
"this lady wants to kill you."
And I said, "What are you talkin' about?"
I was so upset, I mean, there was so much rage,
and I was so mad I couldn't, I couldn't...
I, I thought he was joking. He said, "Nah, man.
This is not a joke, it's for real."
He said, "I seen that look on people's eyes
when they wanna kill somebody,
and she has that look."
[Narrator] Ramon tells investigators
he was in shock.
With the divorce pending,
he and Lulu were still sharing a home.
She decided she was gonna live on the second floor,
and I was gonna live on the first floor of the house.
I just went in the house...
Went in my room, and locked the door, you know?
I just, I just laid in my bed,
staring at the, staring at the ceiling,
thinking, like, "What am I gonna do?
What am I gonna do?"
Sleeping, basically, with one eye open.
[Narrator] Ramon and Mundo tell investigators
they agreed that their best bet
was for Mundo to keep stringing Lulu along.
She might be sayin' this kinda stuff because
she's just mad right now.
There's really no evidence right now.
So, I told Mundo, "Get as much information as you can."
[Narrator] In an attempt to see just how serious Lulu was,
Mundo quickly took the next ste
and told Lulu he'd spoken with Paco,
who was on board for the job.
[Kelly] She believed him. There was no hesitation.
There was no worry on her part. She trusted Mundo completely.
[Narrator] Ramon tells investigators
he then purchased a burner phone,
which he used to text Mundo posing as Paco,
his own would-be killer.
He texted back and forth with me, like I was the hitmen.
You know, "I need $200, and let's go do this."
[Narrator] Mundo says he showed the texts to Lulu as proof.
[Ramon] She had no idea the whole time
that hitman was me.
I was playing my own hitman.
Was Mundo the only person that Lulu was talkin' to?
Was he the only one that she was seeking
this type of assistance from?
[Narrator] As the two men continue with their story,
they reveal an even more concerning detail.
[Kelly] There's money involved.
She's really serious about having Ramon killed.
[Narrator] Investigators are stunned by
how much information Mundo was able to obtain.
Time was of the essence, and this was a very serious matter.
So, the ball got to move quick.
[Narrator] Coming up.
Investigators dig into the broken marriage
that threatens Ramon's life.
She started getting really, really jealous,
her whole attitude changed.
She just wasn't the same person.
[Narrator] And a deadly plot is uncovered.
Mundo was recording everything.
It was chilling to listen to how she wanted me dead.
[Narrator] July 5th, 2015.
Texas gym owner Ramon Sosa and his friend Mundo
have just detailed to Montgomery County investigators
a shocking murder for hire plot
that has been coming to a head over the past two weeks.
They also presented some audio recordings
of Lulu speaking with Mundo.
[Narrator] Ramon and Mundo hand over cell phones
containing text messages from Lulu,
as well as a thumb drive.
[Narrator] As investigators hand off the phones and the drive
to be translated,
they request Ramon fill in the blanks
on his background.
[Narrator] Born in Puerto Rico in 1967,
Ramon came to the United States with his family
in the early '70s,
where after several years of moving around,
they eventually settled in Texas.
We moved to Texas when I was a young teenager,
12 or 13, somewhere around there.
There's four of us siblings, we were very close,
all of us are very close.
My parents always did a lotta things with us
when we were younger.
[Narrator] From an early age,
Ramon discovered a lifelong passion...
I really got the, you know, interested in boxing
when my father took me to the gym with him.
I fell in love with the sport, and never looked back.
I turned pro.
So, I was a professional boxer at 17,
still a senior in high school.
And that was pretty cool, you know?
[Narrator] But soon after he graduated high school,
Ramon's path to a professional career
was derailed.
[Ramon] Was not training the way I was supposed to be training,
and then my father sent me to Puerto Rico
to fight over there,
and when I came back,
my mind was not there with boxing anymore.
[Narrator] Barely in his 20s
and with one career already behind him,
Ramon was looking at the long term
when he embarked on his new profession
as a driver for FedEx.
From there, I moved to LA for a job opportunity.
And that's where I met the mother of my kids, Delores.
The way I met her was dancing.
We got together, and one thing led to another,
we, and she ended up gettin' pregnant with my oldest son,
and that's when I talked Delores
into comin' back to Texas with me.
They then shortly after had my brother, Chris.
And then I came, I came along.
[Ramon] We had a nice home.
And, and I was able to build a pool in the backyard, like,
like a little paradise.
The kids loved it.
[Narrator] After a decade together,
Ramon and Delores parted ways.
It's a common law, you know, marriage, what we had.
I think we kinda started growin' apart a little bit
because I didn't want her to work.
I was more of old school, you know,
and that kinda, I guess, bothered her a little bit.
We got joint custody.
And we ended up living separate lives.
[Narrator] During the breakup,
Ramon leaned heavily on his love of boxing.
[Ramon] I still kept goin' to the gym.
And I did more training young, you know, young fighters.
[Narrator] In 2004,
he founded an outreach program for kids in the community.
[Ramon] It was a nonprofit called Young Prospects Boxing.
We would pick 'em up after school,
take 'em to the gym,
and they would train, and kids loved it.
[Narrator] In the early days of the program,
Ramon first met Mundo.
Mundo one day came to the, to the gym.
He wanted to join a boxing team or club.
I told him, "Hey, you know,
if you want to, you can start today."
[Narrator] Ramon says Mundo never looked back.
In, like, three months, we became very, very close.
He kinda opened up a little more to me about his background.
He grew up as a gang member.
It's tough, he ended up goin' to prison for a little while.
He just went down the wrong path.
Then he, when he came out of the prison,
he decided to change his life.
[Narrator] Working as a delivery driver during the da
and training at night
kept 40-year-old Ramon Sosa busy,
but he still managed to find time for romance.
[Mia] My dad and Lulu met at a nightclub.
He saw her across the way and thought she was beautiful.
And when she walked past him, she stepped on his foot.
She did that and apologized, that was his gateway.
I just looked up at her and all I can say is like,
"Would you dance with me?"
And she goes, "Of course."
And the rest was history.
After about a year and a half of dating,
I just decided that, you know, this is the one.
[Narrator] Lulu Dorantes was born in 1974,
in Mexico City.
She was a middle child of three.
She grew up with her mother only.
They were a very tight-knit family.
She was workin' at a Ford factory in Mexico City,
and that's when she met her then-husband
and the father of her kids.
[Narrator] Lulu and her husband eventually divorced,
and she looked for a fresh stat in Texas in the mid 2000s.
[Maria] She was here on a visa, visitor visa.
She had an apartment where she lived with her two children
and her mother.
[Ramon] She was workin' cleaning houses.
She's a hard worker, she's doin' whatever it takes
to help her kids.
[Narrator] After dating for a couple of years,
Lulu and Ramon tied the knot in 2009.
You know, she loved my dad.
My dad was happy, they were happy.
[Ramon] She supported my boxing.
She becomes an American citizen, it was wonderful.
[Narrator] One year later, the family moved across town,
and together, Lulu and Ramon
opened Woodlands Boxing and Fitness.
[Ramon] I was the head coach,
and I would take care of the gym, the boxing part of it.
And then she did the business side of it.
Mundo, he became my right-hand man eventually.
Lulu thought that Mundo was a bad influence.
You know, ex-con, whatever.
And she thought he made the gym look bad.
But then when he started helpin' and takin' care of the gym,
and, and she found out how to get benefits out of him,
now he was good.
[Narrator] Over the next few years,
Ramon and Lulu focused on running the gym,
but the couple's marriage soon began to suffer.
[Ramon] We were okay the first three years,
and then after the third year,
that's when I saw little cracks started in our relationship.
It seemed like the more money we made,
the more arguments we got into.
I was workin' a lot, you know, literally basically all day.
All she could say was like, you know,
"You're always busy with boxing."
She started getting really, really jealous about my kids.
She would treat 'em totally the opposite
of how she treated them when she met them.
And I felt like now that she had a, a nice home,
she had money, and her whole attitude changed.
You know, she just wasn't the same person.
[Narrator] In 2015,
their relationship came to a breaking point
when Lulu surprised Ramon by filing for divorce.
They had the pickup truck and a couple of cars,
and I think a couple of motorcycles, too.
And she basically was out to get whatever she could.
[Ramon] It was a very difficult divorce.
Money, the greed of money, that's all it was.
[Narrator] For investigators, the more Ramon reveals,
the more Lulu's motive begins to crystallize.
[Narrator] Mundo and Ramon leave the office,
but not without specific instructions
on what to do next...
Ramon was advised to limit his interaction with Lulu
for obvious reasons,
and to distance himself.
But go to work.
Maintain your normal routine,
just limit your time and interaction with her.
[Ramon] I ended up staying with my parents.
They had no idea what was goin' on.
I didn't tell anybody, I was in constant fear.
It was horrible,
living day to day knowing that somebody wants to kill you.
And you don't know when or where or how.
[Narrator] Coming up.
Investigators speculate if there are two sides
to this sordid tale.
[Kelly] She had previously made 911 calls.
Accused Ramon of, of, of assaulting her.
[Narrator] And Lulu puts her plan into action.
[Narrator] Detectives in Montgomery County, Texas
are investigating a claim by former boxer, Ramon Sosa,
stating his wife Lulu is trying to kill him.
[Jason] This case was revolving around a person's life,
so we couldn't get it wrong.
There was just no margin for error,
because it was truly life or death.
[Narrator] On July 6th,
they listen to the recorded phone calls
between Lulu and Mundo from the past week.
And they quickly discover Lulu isn't shy
when it comes to her motive.
Ramon worked for FedEx for over 30 years,
and continued to work for them,
and he had a very large pension that Lulu would get
if he were murdered.
[Narrator] As investigators keep listening,
they learn that Lulu has a looming deadline.
Our finalization of the divorce was comin' up soon,
and she wanted the hit to happen before then.
Because if it happened after the divorce,
my kids would get all my inheritance.
[Narrator] With the deadline less than three weeks away,
investigators look closer at the Sosa marriage.
[Jason] As part of a criminal investigation,
it, it's standard practice to run a criminal history check
on everyone involved.
The call history for their residence was pulled,
and there did show to be several disturbance calls to the house.
[Kelly] She'd accused Ramon of, of, of assaulting her.
Sexually assaulting her.
Lulu called the police multiple times about that.
[Narrator] Investigators dig into
Lulu's allegations from 2013,
and find no evidence to back up her claims.
Lulu had called law enforcement several times,
they were summoned to the home.
I think after the third time that constables came out,
they began to believe that this woman was not genuine
in what she was telling them.
[Kelly] The sexual assault allegation by Lulu
against Ramon,
that case was fully investigated.
Ramon even took a lie detector test during it.
A grand jury in Montgomery County
refused to indict.
And they found there was no probable cause that,
that it happened.
[Narrator] Finding no reason to discredit Ramon
and with the clock ticking,
detectives consult with the district attorney's office.
In order to charge someone with solicitation of capital murder,
you have to develop your own investigation,
and our own evidence.
And we decided to do an undercover operation.
[James] At that point, the sheriff's office
took it very seriously
and got in touch with the Texas Department of Public Safety,
and DPS sent down an undercover officer
posing as the assassin.
[Kelly] Mundo told Lulu that he had someone by the name of Paco
that could do the job that she wanted to do.
[Jason] Law enforcement was able to set up an undercover
to assume the role of Paco.
The next step was a face-to-face meeting with Paco and Lulu.
[Ramon] I told 'em, I said, "Look," ya know,
"Lulu, she's used to only have conversations with, with Mundo.
So, if anything, y'all need to have Mundo around,
meeting with the undercover officer."
[Narrator] Mundo agrees to facilitate the meeting
between Lulu and the undercover agent.
The goal was to have Mundo ride with Paco to the location
to meet with Lulu,
and then have Mundo introduce Lulu to Paco.
And once that took place,
we wanted him to get back in his car and leave,
because we didn't want him involved.
[Narrator] On the evening of July 20th,
Mundo, Lulu, and the undercover agent
meet in the parking lot of a local department store.
There were a number of undercover officers
that were in the area,
watching and ready to act in case something went down.
Normally when you're dealing with solicitation of
capital murder cases,
your suspect, they may be a little more nervous.
And Lulu Sosa was not that at all.
[Narrator] Lulu reiterates that she needs the hit
to take place within the next 48 hours.
[Narrator] Lulu agrees to give Paco
an additional $500 upfront,
with more to come after the murder.
They agreed on $1,000 cash,
the title to Ramon's truck once the job was done,
and she was gonna give Paco some of Ramon's jewelry
to compensate him further.
I was pretty taken back.
That let me know that we are dealing with a truly evil woman.
[Narrator] Following the meeting,
investigators take the recordings to prosecutors.
While damning, they worry it still isn't enough.
[Jason] In this case, Lulu, had no prior criminal history.
She was a productive member of society,
so there, there were several things in her favor
that we wanted to negate a jury from falling for.
[Narrator] To seal Lulu's fate,
they will need Ramon's help in carrying out
an unorthodox plot.
On July 21, 2015,
Ramon reports to the constable's office.
When you're talking about a solicitation
of capital murder case,
you wanna be able to show a jury or a judge
what the suspect will do when they see
the person that they wanted dead actually dead.
And so, it's not uncommon to, during the investigation,
to try to stage the murder.
We knew one of the final pieces of the puzzle
was the proof of death.
The district attorney wanted
a certain bar to be met evidentiary wise.
And we knew that that was going to be staging Ramon's death.
Showing proof of death to Lulu,
and getting her reaction on video.
He said, "So, what I'm gonna do is...
I'm gonna take a picture,
show her a picture of you...
Dead, with a bullet wound on the side of your head."
And I'm like, "You're kidding me."
I couldn't, I couldn't believe it.
I didn't know what to say. I was like, I was stunned.
I was in total fear, and I was, just didn't know what to expect.
We had the investigators basically use makeup
to place a bullet hole on his head.
We made a close contact entry wound on the right temple,
what appeared to be a fatal gunshot wound to the head.
We collaboratively discussed, you know,
"Hey, do, do we have this right," you know?
"Is, is this stippling just right," you know?
This undercover operation had to be spot on,
had to look legit,
because ultimately, a man's life depended on it.
[Narrator] Coming up.
Will Lulu buy into the sting operation?
We had to put Ramon into hiding.
[Narrator] July 21, 2015.
Authorities in Montgomery County, Texas
are acting fast to save Ramon Sosa's life.
With less than 24 hours before Lulu's deadline
to have Ramon killed,
investigators prepare to stage his murder.
About 3 P.M. is when we took Mr. Sosa to
the gravesite that we used.
It was very isolated.
[Ramon] I'll never forget.
I was in the back of this SUV,
and it was blacked out, you know?
And, and me sitting in the backseat thinking, like,
"What am I doing?"
There were people there already waiting,
and there was a guy with a, with a camera.
And so, one of these officers told me
how I was gonna pose and all this.
They already had a, a shallow grave all dug up.
[Narrator] Ramon carefully steps down into the 4x4 foot grave.
I instructed Ramon to just put his hands behind his back.
That way it appeared as though they were tied behind his back,
and he was dumped in a hole.
[Ramon] They told me to close my eyes,
they added more blood to my nose, I think mouth, also.
We took pictures of him with our cell phones.
They had to be taken in a way to look like it was people
who had just committed a murder taking a photograph of someone.
[Narrator] When Ramon climbs out of the grave,
he is visibly shaken.
He was upset, like anybody would seeing basically
what is their own death.
[Ramon] I knew that was gonna be difficult.
So many different thoughts were going through my head.
I was thinkin' about my kids, my family.
What are they gonna say when they see this picture of me?
I mean, they gonna to see it sooner or later.
[Narrator] To keep Ramon safe,
investigators whisk him away
to a hotel at an undisclosed location.
The goal of that was to have Ramon's friends
reach out to Lulu and to ask where Ramon was,
to see what her reaction would be,
what her story would be.
We had to put Ramon into hiding for several days.
[Ramon] They took my phone away. I had no contact with anybody.
Not his employer. No family members.
Nobody.
And he had to understand that
that was the only key to makin' this work.
The officer, you know, when they dropped me off, they said,
"Well, we'll call you as soon as we arrest her."
I remember I just wanted this to be over.
[Narrator] On July 22nd,
Paco and Lulu meet for a second time.
Lulu got in the car.
You could tell she was excited and thrilled with
what was goin' on.
Probably the most chilling part of this entire case
was her immediate response to the photo.
And it was her smiling.
[Jason] We had enough. We had our case.
We'd gotten across the goal line.
[Narrator] The next day, on July 23rd,
Detective Martinez and a patrol officer
approach Lulu at the gym.
Lulu was in the back office of the boxing gym.
Her mom was there, her daughter was there.
Ramon had been off the grid for the previous 48 hours.
Our plan was to speak to her
under the guise of me investigating
a missing person's report.
[Jason] I just let her talk.
It was about a ten minute long production
of her attempting to give the appearance that
she was bein' helpful to us.
But it, it got to a point where I made the decision to,
to go ahead and place her in custody.
[Narrator] As soon as Lulu is in cuffs,
investigators make an important phone call.
[Ramon] They gave me a call, said, you know,
"She's being arrested, We're gonna go pick you up now."
And...
I had tears of sadness, of anger.
And so many emotions
came through me about everything that had gone down.
[Narrator] At the station,
police read Lulu her rights, but she refuses to talk.
[Jason] From the minute she was taken into custody,
she lawyered up and exercised her fifth amendment right.
[Narrator] Coming up.
The Sosa family hopes for closure.
I remember her when they brought her in, the sound of the chains,
you know, of her walking.
She never looked at me the whole time.
I just want it to be over.
[Narrator] On July 23, 2015,
Lulu Sosa is arrested for solicitation of capital murder
after hiring an undercover agen to kill her husband, Ramon.
During the sting, Ramon hid out in a hotel.
But news of Lulu's arrest break before he has the chance
to reach out to his family.
Hello everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield,
this is Primetime Justice.
Divorce can get messy.
My mom, she saw there was a breaking news
for Montgomery County, next to the Woodlands.
A woman tried murder her husband.
My mom's English is kinda broken
and the only thing she understood was that
she was arrested for killing her husband.
She saw her picture on the breaking news,
and my mom just fainted and just started screaming.
[Ramon] The first person that I call is my mother,
and oh my goodness.
I heard her in the background,
'cause my dad picked up the phone,
and I hear in the background my mom just yelling.
You know, that kind of cry you hear at funerals.
Just, just...
It, it, it was breaking me. She thought that I was dead.
[Narrator] Immediately, Ramon rushes to his family's side.
I get to the house, and my dad is there.
Eyes are bloodshot, my mom's in the back,
just couldn't catch her breath you know what I mean?
I started calling my sons.
'Cause everybody was,
so many people had already seen it on TV.
I called my sons and my daughter Mia.
[Mia] And I just immediately started bawling my eyes out.
I was crying, I remember, I just, I was so angry.
Because how could somebody wanna kill my father?
You know? Let alone his wife.
[Narrator] While awaiting trial,
Lulu never offers up an explanation
for her actions.
And the couple's divorce is finalized.
In the divorce, you know, everything was awarded.
Everything, the cars, the house, the gyms
was all awarded to me.
So, out of all that greed that she wanted everything,
she went, and her kids and her family and her mom,
without nothing.
[Narrator] By the fall of 2016,
over a year after Lulu's arrest
she sees the writing on the wall.
On October 11th, Lulu takes a plea.
She agreed to plead to 20 years in prison to what's called,
what's a second-degree felony.
Which carries a range of punishment from,
for her, for probation to 20 years.
So, she accepted the maximum punishment for that that crime.
Because no one was murdered,
her lack of criminal history in her past,
and the fact that she was going to accept responsibility,
I believe 20 years was a just sentence in this case.
I was just ready to be over with.
You know, it was about 15 months later.
I just want it to be over.
[Narrator] At her hearing,
the judge gives Ramon a chance to speak to his wife
and would-be killer.
[Ramon] And I remember her, when they brought her in,
the sound of the chains, you know, of her walking.
And I felt, I feel saddened to see this lady, how she ended up.
Somebody that came to this country
lookin' for a better life for herself and her kids.
[Kelly] Ramon was able to give what we call
a victim impact statement
about the impact that, that this has had on him,
and what she's done to him and his family.
And I forgave her, and it was as if I had released
all that anger and all that air in the balloon,
and I was at peace again.
She never looked at me the whole time.
And they just took her away,
and that's the last time I saw her.
[Narrator] But the Sosa family walks away from the ordeal
with something far more valuabl than money or possessions.
Our family is much, much closer.
The dynamics between my father and I has been amazing.
I mean, I have a four year old son, his grandson,
his first grandson.
He's an amazing grandfather.
I know that there's a day that's gonna come in the near future
that, that, that Lulu's gonna be released from prison.
I hope that she betters her life.
What's helped me a lot, too,
is talking to people,
men and women, that are goin' through
difficult situations and marriages.
I hope that people that see my story
can learn something from it,
and I hope that it, that it helps them.
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