1 00:00:00,934 --> 00:00:02,401 [investigator] I heard a sound before. 2 00:00:02,403 --> 00:00:03,402 Before we came here. 3 00:00:03,404 --> 00:00:05,604 -[loud crash] -[bleep] Christmas! 4 00:00:05,606 --> 00:00:07,639 [Jason] A historic house of tragedies... 5 00:00:07,741 --> 00:00:09,842 While he was here, he had four wives. 6 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:11,710 [man] Three died here. 7 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:14,813 My staff gets concerned about working alone. 8 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:16,715 [Jason] Reunite family and friends... 9 00:00:17,618 --> 00:00:19,218 [woman] Oh, my God. Hello? 10 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:21,253 [Jason] ...To dig up grave revelations. 11 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:23,789 There is a record of there having been a cemetery. 12 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:25,524 Could it be underneath the mansion? 13 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:27,126 [man] It's right out of the movie Poltergeist. 14 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,828 I can hear it. The distant screaming. 15 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:31,330 -[voice] Yeah... -[woman gasps] 16 00:00:31,332 --> 00:00:33,232 -[man] You heard that? -I heard that! 17 00:00:34,602 --> 00:00:36,635 [theme music playing] 18 00:00:40,241 --> 00:00:41,707 [train horn blaring] 19 00:00:43,644 --> 00:00:45,911 So, Bethlehem, PA, man. 20 00:00:45,913 --> 00:00:48,247 I'm excited about this one. 21 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:51,116 [Jason] The TAPS team is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvani 22 00:00:51,118 --> 00:00:54,119 to investigate the centurie old Sayre Mansion. 23 00:00:54,121 --> 00:00:56,355 Which has a history of mysterious deaths 24 00:00:56,423 --> 00:00:59,591 and terrifying paranormal activity. 25 00:00:59,593 --> 00:01:03,429 The Sayre Mansion was built in the 1800's by Robert Sayre, 26 00:01:03,431 --> 00:01:08,100 who had made his fortune in iron and steel and a big part of the railroad. 27 00:01:08,102 --> 00:01:10,936 Robert Sayre had four wives, 28 00:01:11,005 --> 00:01:14,039 and three of them actually died in the house. 29 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:17,142 -[Jason] Yeah. -I would think twice about getting married to this guy. 30 00:01:17,244 --> 00:01:19,011 [both laughing] 31 00:01:19,013 --> 00:01:22,047 Supposedly, there are certain rooms in the house 32 00:01:22,049 --> 00:01:25,050 that experience the brunt of the activity. 33 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:26,952 So, it'd be interesting to find out if, maybe, 34 00:01:27,021 --> 00:01:30,022 those are the rooms that the wives stayed in? 35 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:32,157 Or they-- Where they passed on. 36 00:01:32,226 --> 00:01:34,827 [Steve] But the activity, it's pretty rampant. 37 00:01:34,829 --> 00:01:37,696 People have been experiencing everything from shadow figures, 38 00:01:37,698 --> 00:01:40,499 feeling like something is keeping them in rooms. 39 00:01:40,501 --> 00:01:41,733 [Jason] Sarah, who runs the place, 40 00:01:41,835 --> 00:01:44,203 she was also saying stuff about laying in the bed 41 00:01:44,205 --> 00:01:46,638 lying and feeling like somebody was lying beside her. 42 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:48,040 And, she's not the only one. 43 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:51,210 She's actually afraid of what is happening, 44 00:01:51,212 --> 00:01:54,513 in that it might drive people out. 45 00:01:54,515 --> 00:01:56,315 It certainly would be a misfortune 46 00:01:56,317 --> 00:01:59,151 if the paranormal is a reason for a place to close. 47 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:02,020 Yeah. Also, it's a decent sized place. 48 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:04,723 We're bringing Dustin and my daughter, Samantha, in. 49 00:02:04,725 --> 00:02:06,391 -Nice. -[Jason] It'd be good to investigate with them. 50 00:02:06,393 --> 00:02:07,793 Awesome! 51 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:09,962 Well, I'm excited to get over there and see how we can help. 52 00:02:09,964 --> 00:02:11,363 Let's figure this place out! 53 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:14,299 [Shari] Here we go! 54 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:21,106 [Steve] Look at this. 55 00:02:21,842 --> 00:02:23,142 This is a haunted mansion. 56 00:02:27,014 --> 00:02:28,213 [Jason] TAPS case. 57 00:02:28,215 --> 00:02:31,116 Sayre Mansion, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. 58 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,152 Let's go find Sarah. 59 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:34,820 Let's do it! 60 00:02:39,426 --> 00:02:41,527 [ominous music] 61 00:02:42,997 --> 00:02:44,496 Hey Sarah, I'm Jason. 62 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:46,698 Thanks so much for making the trip out. Hi, nice to meet you. 63 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,233 Thanks for having us out. 64 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:50,335 [Jason] So, tell us some of the history of Sayre Mansion. 65 00:02:50,437 --> 00:02:52,604 Robert Sayre was the Chief Engineer 66 00:02:52,606 --> 00:02:54,106 for the Lehigh Valley Railroad. 67 00:02:54,108 --> 00:02:56,842 [Sarah] And with that came a hefty salary. 68 00:02:56,944 --> 00:03:00,212 So, this home was completed in 1858. 69 00:03:00,214 --> 00:03:02,714 While Mr. Sayre was here, he had four wives. 70 00:03:02,716 --> 00:03:04,950 -Not at the same time. -[both men chuckling] 71 00:03:04,952 --> 00:03:07,586 [Sarah] Three of those wives did pass away here at the mansion. 72 00:03:07,588 --> 00:03:09,621 Do you know his wives names? 73 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:12,758 Yeah, his first wife was Mary and his second wife was Mary-- 74 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:13,926 Makes it easy. 75 00:03:13,928 --> 00:03:15,460 [Sarah chuckles] And then, the third wife was Helena. 76 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:16,395 And the fourth wife? 77 00:03:16,397 --> 00:03:17,795 Fourth wife was Martha. 78 00:03:17,797 --> 00:03:20,899 And, as he got older, the wives got younger and younger. 79 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:23,302 DId they die under strange circumstances? 80 00:03:23,304 --> 00:03:25,938 I can't find any records of how they passed. 81 00:03:25,940 --> 00:03:29,708 One of them only lived 13 months after they married. 82 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:32,244 -Okay. -[Steve] How many children did Robert Sayre have? 83 00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:35,214 Uhm, Mr. Sayre had 12 children. 84 00:03:35,216 --> 00:03:38,450 Three of those children did pass away here at the mansion. 85 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:40,786 Do you know what the children passed away from? 86 00:03:40,788 --> 00:03:43,322 I don't. I could never identify that. 87 00:03:43,324 --> 00:03:46,425 [Jason] Robert Sayre lived in the home with his fourth wife 88 00:03:46,427 --> 00:03:50,062 until he died in the mansio of natural causes in 1907, 89 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:52,264 at the age of 82. 90 00:03:52,332 --> 00:03:54,499 What kind of person was Mr. Sayre, do you know? 91 00:03:54,501 --> 00:03:57,736 I don't get the sense that he was a very loving person. 92 00:03:57,838 --> 00:03:59,504 [Jason] After Mr. Sayre's death, 93 00:03:59,506 --> 00:04:02,641 the mansion changed hands for the next several decades 94 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:04,710 Eventually, converted into apartments. 95 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:07,012 And then, low-income housing 96 00:04:07,014 --> 00:04:09,314 In the early '90s, the building was sold, 97 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:11,650 restored and became a bed and breakfast. 98 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 So, what are you hoping that we're able to accomplish here? 99 00:04:15,322 --> 00:04:18,957 Some of my staff gets really concerned about working alone. 100 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:20,592 They're getting scared a lot. 101 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:24,630 And, more importantly, I had a guest check out halfway through their stay, 102 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:27,699 because they felt like something was moving over their bed at night. 103 00:04:27,701 --> 00:04:29,534 I certainly don't want to lose business 104 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:31,303 because of what's going on here. 105 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:34,239 And, now that we're busier, and I'm hearing more... 106 00:04:34,308 --> 00:04:36,208 -Experiences. Yeah. Right. -It's upticking. Okay. 107 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:38,744 So, what type of activity are you all experiencing here? 108 00:04:38,812 --> 00:04:41,747 One night, I was here late so, I figured, I would just stay here. 109 00:04:41,848 --> 00:04:44,216 And, I stayed in room 11, on the first floor. 110 00:04:44,218 --> 00:04:46,418 -[door creaking] -[Sarah] At one o'clock in the morning, 111 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:50,922 I woke up out of a dead sleep and felt something laying next to me. 112 00:04:50,924 --> 00:04:52,624 I just told myself it was all in my head 113 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,393 and forced myself back to sleep. 114 00:04:54,395 --> 00:04:55,827 That same night, 115 00:04:55,829 --> 00:04:57,629 I woke up to a crash. 116 00:04:58,299 --> 00:05:00,632 [loud crash] 117 00:05:00,701 --> 00:05:03,502 The curtain rod was pulled out of the wall. 118 00:05:03,504 --> 00:05:05,137 So, I jumped up and ran out of that room 119 00:05:05,238 --> 00:05:08,240 and I won't sleep in there anymore. 120 00:05:08,309 --> 00:05:10,509 [Jason] There's also a bedroom on the second floo 121 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:12,244 that is significant. 122 00:05:12,313 --> 00:05:15,614 [Sarah] Room 23, in particular, was the wives' quarters. 123 00:05:15,616 --> 00:05:18,317 Three of his wives had passed away in that space. 124 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,853 [Jason] It's also the room where people looking into an old mirror 125 00:05:21,922 --> 00:05:25,657 have seen a reflection of a female apparition brushing her hair. 126 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,759 I try not to look in that mirror. 127 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:30,329 [Felicia] I leave the door propped open when I'm cleaning, 128 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:34,833 'cause it's almost a feeling of needing to escape if I had to. 129 00:05:34,902 --> 00:05:37,602 Definitely like a presence of a person. 130 00:05:37,604 --> 00:05:39,137 But you don't feel anything 131 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:41,807 has had any malicious intent while you've been here, right? 132 00:05:41,809 --> 00:05:43,709 Sometimes on the third floor, yeah. 133 00:05:43,711 --> 00:05:46,545 [Sarah] The third floor has just a different kind of feeling to it. 134 00:05:46,613 --> 00:05:49,614 A bit ominous. Uhm, scary. 135 00:05:49,616 --> 00:05:52,718 [Felicia] I also had an experience in room 34. 136 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,119 Right as I got to the door, 137 00:05:54,121 --> 00:05:56,054 something was like, stopping me from going in. 138 00:05:57,024 --> 00:05:59,091 It was that intense. 139 00:05:59,093 --> 00:06:02,160 Whatever it was didn't want to enter the room. 140 00:06:02,229 --> 00:06:06,264 [Sarah] Innkeepers have had experiences in room 32, on the third floor. 141 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:08,700 I hadn't told anyone about what I experienced 142 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,203 feeling like there was someone next to me in room 11. 143 00:06:11,205 --> 00:06:15,107 My overnight innkeeper said in room 32, she experienced the same thing. 144 00:06:15,109 --> 00:06:17,909 [innkeeper] The first night that I stayed in room 32, 145 00:06:17,911 --> 00:06:20,312 I was by myself, I woke up. 146 00:06:22,316 --> 00:06:25,751 And it felt like there was somebody sleeping next to me. 147 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:28,653 I was terrified but then, I just kept trying to think, 148 00:06:28,722 --> 00:06:30,522 like, it has to be my mind playing tricks on me. 149 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:32,791 Uhm, it wasn't till that same night later, 150 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:34,559 is when I felt the pressure on my legs. 151 00:06:34,661 --> 00:06:36,795 I felt like somebody crawling up into the bed. 152 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:38,864 Like, somebody was like, you know, tugging the sheets 153 00:06:38,932 --> 00:06:40,799 Or somebody was like, sitting on me. 154 00:06:42,503 --> 00:06:44,202 [Jason] In the basement, 155 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:46,805 Maggie and others have witnessed a shadow figure. 156 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:49,740 [Maggie] There's been a couple of nights 157 00:06:49,742 --> 00:06:53,011 where I was downstairs, where I saw like a shadow moving across the wall. 158 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:54,713 And there was nobody down there at the time. 159 00:06:54,715 --> 00:06:56,481 And I was absolutely terrified. 160 00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:02,721 [Jason] Throughout the house there are reports of disembodied voices... 161 00:07:03,357 --> 00:07:05,157 [sinister voices whispering] 162 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:07,259 -[footsteps approaching] -[Jason] Footsteps. 163 00:07:08,562 --> 00:07:11,062 Electronics not working. 164 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,665 And claims of an entity tugging on clothing. 165 00:07:16,503 --> 00:07:19,104 Guests are also frequently woken up at night 166 00:07:19,706 --> 00:07:21,306 by strange disturbances. 167 00:07:22,709 --> 00:07:24,309 So, anything else you think we should know? 168 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:25,776 I think that's it. 169 00:07:25,778 --> 00:07:27,145 All right, I think from here, we're going to go talk to the crew. 170 00:07:27,247 --> 00:07:28,814 Figure out where to start setting up the equipment 171 00:07:28,816 --> 00:07:30,115 and get investigating. 172 00:07:30,117 --> 00:07:32,417 Thanks so much for making the trip, guys. Thank you. 173 00:07:32,419 --> 00:07:33,718 We'll get you some answers. 174 00:07:38,091 --> 00:07:39,891 Well, well, well. 175 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:41,726 -Long time no see. -So good to see you. 176 00:07:41,728 --> 00:07:44,062 [Samantha] I'm really excite to be back investigating with the TAPS team. 177 00:07:44,064 --> 00:07:47,599 My dad and Steve and Dave have taught me just so much about investigating. 178 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:49,801 But there's also just so much that I've learned on my own 179 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,803 about how I want to approac an investigation like this. 180 00:07:51,805 --> 00:07:53,872 I mean, there might be women involved here, 181 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:56,842 children involved here. I'm a mother, I'm a teacher. 182 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,812 There's that individualized plan that I'm going to attack this with. 183 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:02,214 -Good to see you man. -[Dustin] Good to see you. 184 00:08:02,216 --> 00:08:04,716 It's great to be back out on the road with the TAPS crew, again. 185 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:08,053 Really looking forward to checking out the Sayre Mansion. 186 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:11,289 Mr. Sayre was important with not only the railroad, 187 00:08:11,291 --> 00:08:14,226 but also the development of the Bethlehem Steel Company. 188 00:08:14,228 --> 00:08:17,662 And, my father actually hauled steel out of the stee yards here. 189 00:08:17,731 --> 00:08:19,264 So, I'm interested to see 190 00:08:19,299 --> 00:08:21,700 if some of the things I can talk about, maybe, might bring out 191 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:23,602 the spirits to speak with us. 192 00:08:24,705 --> 00:08:26,738 -[Steve] Hey guys! -[Samantha] Hey! how are you? 193 00:08:26,773 --> 00:08:28,006 Hey, Stevie! 194 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:30,108 All right, so we just got done talking with Sarah. 195 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:32,310 -Okay. -I mean, there's a lot of different claims. 196 00:08:32,312 --> 00:08:34,813 And, a lot of loss of life throughout the years. 197 00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:39,417 Mr. Sayre's had four wives. Three died here. He died here. 198 00:08:39,419 --> 00:08:40,752 -[Dave] In the house? Jeez. -[Jason] Yeah. 199 00:08:40,821 --> 00:08:42,554 Been experiencing everything from laying on the beds 200 00:08:42,656 --> 00:08:44,022 and feeling somebody laying beside them, 201 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:46,424 and seeing shadow type entities, voices. 202 00:08:46,426 --> 00:08:48,293 [Dave] Since the three of the wives died in here, 203 00:08:48,295 --> 00:08:50,028 do they say they see any females... 204 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:51,897 [Jason] Well, they do. They have a mirror upstairs 205 00:08:51,899 --> 00:08:54,299 where they see a lady brushing her hair, in the mirror. 206 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:57,402 Also, they have a lot of problems with electronics in here too. 207 00:08:57,404 --> 00:08:59,037 So, it'd be interesting to see if anything 208 00:08:59,106 --> 00:09:00,906 -messes with our electronics. -[Dave] Yeah. 209 00:09:00,908 --> 00:09:03,041 -So, let's get cracking. -All right, let's do it. 210 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:04,409 I'm excited for this one. 211 00:09:05,546 --> 00:09:08,113 [Steve] There have been no formal investigations her 212 00:09:08,115 --> 00:09:11,716 so, it allows us to go in with no preconceived notions. 213 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:16,288 And really dig into this pla and figure out everything th we want to know. 214 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:19,324 Was there some foul play? We'll find out. 215 00:09:19,326 --> 00:09:20,692 [Jason] They've been losing business here. 216 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:22,627 But, they've also had employees who are terrified 217 00:09:22,629 --> 00:09:24,496 to go into a lot of these locations. 218 00:09:24,498 --> 00:09:25,797 And we don't want that for anybody. 219 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:27,532 We want people to feel comfortable. 220 00:09:31,705 --> 00:09:34,005 So yeah, we have cameras on every level. 221 00:09:34,007 --> 00:09:37,042 Every bedroom, everywhere that has an experience. 222 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:38,376 We had it all covered. 223 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:40,512 -Anything moves, we'll be able to catch it. -Right. 224 00:09:40,514 --> 00:09:43,315 I think from here we can get the lights out and get investigating. 225 00:09:43,317 --> 00:09:44,616 I think so, it's time. 226 00:09:44,618 --> 00:09:46,251 All right, let's do it. Good job, guys. 227 00:09:48,522 --> 00:09:50,121 [switch flips] 228 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:56,261 [Jason] Tonight, Dave and Dustin will start in the basement. 229 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:59,431 [Dave] Dave and Dustin, on our way towards the conference room, 230 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:00,799 in the basement. 231 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:02,667 All right, buddy. 232 00:10:02,669 --> 00:10:05,303 [Jason] And Steve and I wil head up to the third floor. 233 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:08,940 [Steve] J and Steve. Heading all the way upstairs. 234 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:13,144 [Jason] Sam and Shari will keep an eye on any activity 235 00:10:13,246 --> 00:10:14,813 that we pick up on the monitors. 236 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:20,552 [Dustin] Down in this area, 237 00:10:20,554 --> 00:10:22,754 we know that there are claims of shadow figures. 238 00:10:26,393 --> 00:10:28,059 [Dave] Definitely a different feel in here. 239 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,829 -It sounds different, the stone. -[Dustin] Yeah. 240 00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:32,330 [Dustin] We're trying to speak to anybody 241 00:10:32,332 --> 00:10:34,499 that might be here with us this evening. 242 00:10:34,501 --> 00:10:37,235 [Dave] What I have in my hand can copy your voice. 243 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:39,404 Like a record. 244 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:42,340 I can play it back later. 245 00:10:42,409 --> 00:10:46,144 [Dustin] Is any member of the Sayre family here with us this evening? 246 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:49,614 Maybe Robert Sayre? 247 00:10:50,951 --> 00:10:53,518 [Dave] Mary? Robert's first wife. 248 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,719 Are you here with us? 249 00:10:56,123 --> 00:10:57,756 Maybe the second Mary. 250 00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,226 You probably didn't like being called that though. 251 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:05,430 [groans softly] 252 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,932 DId you hear that? 253 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:10,935 [Dave] Yup. 254 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:22,414 [Jason] So, here on the third floor, there's claims of electronics acting up. 255 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:25,917 And, I guess, in room 32, something was climbing into the bed. 256 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:28,820 We've got a full spectrum camera. 257 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:32,090 [Steve] This device here is an EM pump. 258 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:37,629 And what it does is it ionizes the atmosphere by introducing positive ions. 259 00:11:37,631 --> 00:11:40,799 Whatever's here, if it does need energy 260 00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:44,502 to manifest, to move objects, create a voice. 261 00:11:44,504 --> 00:11:47,238 This is basically adding a little more fuel for it. 262 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:49,107 -Steve? -Yo. 263 00:11:49,109 --> 00:11:52,277 I just went from a full battery to one bar. 264 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:53,778 [Steve] Oh, wow. 265 00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:58,049 Maybe there's something to those reports of electronics fuddling. 266 00:11:58,151 --> 00:11:59,417 [floor creaking] 267 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:02,187 This is the top floor. 268 00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:04,556 So, I heard-- Sounded like we just heard footsteps above us. 269 00:12:04,624 --> 00:12:05,723 Like, above us? 270 00:12:07,127 --> 00:12:09,060 [Jason] If there's somebody here, can you knock? 271 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:11,229 Let us know you're here, like this? 272 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,933 [faint knock] 273 00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:18,136 That was a knock, Steve. That was a direct knock. 274 00:12:18,205 --> 00:12:19,237 I heard it. 275 00:12:20,006 --> 00:12:21,606 What the [bleep] 276 00:12:32,719 --> 00:12:36,221 If we knock again, can you knock back to us? 277 00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:40,225 -[faint knock] -Ooh. 278 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:44,362 It's weird. Sounds like somebody's hitting a pillow. 279 00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:46,498 -It was like a... -[knock] 280 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:47,799 -[Jason] Nope. -[knock] 281 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,601 Nothing sounds like it. 282 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:54,806 [Steve] Is anyone here from the Sayre family? 283 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:57,308 Robert Sayre? 284 00:12:58,845 --> 00:12:59,911 [faint knock] 285 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:02,313 -Just then. -All right, there was a knock, 286 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:04,349 -but there's a noise in here. -[Steve] Really? 287 00:13:08,155 --> 00:13:12,357 [Jason] Now, there's nothing. It's only happening when we're asking something. 288 00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:17,328 Somebody was trying to talk to us through these rapping sounds, 289 00:13:17,330 --> 00:13:20,565 and we'd love to figure out who that is. 290 00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:27,505 Do you know who Mr. Sayre is? Robert Sayre. 291 00:13:27,507 --> 00:13:29,407 [faint knock] 292 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,675 [Jason] I mean, that was intelligent. 293 00:13:30,677 --> 00:13:33,511 There's absolutely no knock until you ask a question. 294 00:13:34,948 --> 00:13:39,684 I want to see if maybe, I can locate that source. 295 00:13:39,686 --> 00:13:40,684 [Jason] That'd be great. 296 00:13:40,686 --> 00:13:44,355 [Steve] I can use this thermal IR detector. 297 00:13:44,424 --> 00:13:47,125 It'll at least tell us if there's a mass here 298 00:13:47,127 --> 00:13:49,694 that has a different temperature than we do. 299 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,729 Robert Sayre? 300 00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:53,832 Are you here? 301 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:56,401 Are you willing to talk with us? 302 00:13:59,206 --> 00:14:01,306 -[faint knock] -[Steve] That was a knock. 303 00:14:04,044 --> 00:14:05,343 Robert Sayre? 304 00:14:07,314 --> 00:14:09,581 We're looking for you. 305 00:14:09,583 --> 00:14:11,683 -Just-- -[device beeping] 306 00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:12,851 [Jason] What the hell's going on? 307 00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:15,119 It's picking up a heat signature? 308 00:14:15,121 --> 00:14:17,121 [Steve] I sure am. Right here. 309 00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:19,224 [device continues beeping] 310 00:14:28,034 --> 00:14:30,335 [Dave] We heard a sound before. 311 00:14:30,436 --> 00:14:32,704 If that was you, can you do it again? 312 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,908 What are you doing down here in the basement? 313 00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:45,817 There are some questions about how the Sayre wives passed away. 314 00:14:48,455 --> 00:14:50,054 [Dustin] Was Robert to blame? 315 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:52,056 [soft whimpering] 316 00:14:52,058 --> 00:14:53,124 [Dave] Ooh. 317 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,327 What did that sound like to you? 318 00:14:56,329 --> 00:14:58,096 It sounded to me like a higher pitched voice. 319 00:14:58,098 --> 00:14:59,664 -[Dave] Really? -Yeah. 320 00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:03,034 I was only able to kind of hear almost a distant scream or a whimper. 321 00:15:03,036 --> 00:15:04,102 [Dustin] Oh, okay. 322 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:06,704 Mary, are you here with us? 323 00:15:08,808 --> 00:15:11,209 [Dave] Mary, Robert's second wife, 324 00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:12,543 was that you? 325 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:20,518 [Dustin] Anybody else down here? 326 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,522 -Ah, we found where all the spirits came. -[Dave exclaims] 327 00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:27,425 -[Dustin] Shall we have a seat and do a session? -[Dave] Sure. 328 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:34,799 People reported seeing shadow figures moving around down here. 329 00:15:34,801 --> 00:15:38,102 Maybe, someone is here that is a member of the Sayre family? 330 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,205 Mary Sayre, are you here with us? 331 00:15:42,342 --> 00:15:44,108 [whistling noise] 332 00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:49,514 [Dustin] What was that? 333 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:52,817 -Similar to what I heard before. -[whistling noise] 334 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:55,119 There. I can hear it. 335 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,721 [Dustin] Sounds like somebody drinking through a straw. 336 00:15:58,024 --> 00:16:00,725 Mary, if that's you, we are able to hear you. 337 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:03,628 Could you possibly do it again, Miss Mary Sayre? 338 00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:07,565 [whistling noise] 339 00:16:15,709 --> 00:16:17,442 [device beeping] 340 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:19,444 [Steve] There's a mass here, 341 00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:23,014 I've got to triangulate it though. I gotta find the source. 342 00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:25,516 -[beeping continues] -Oh, going away. That's going away from it. 343 00:16:25,518 --> 00:16:27,518 I think it may be moving. 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,355 [beeping continues] 345 00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:32,690 [Steve] Oh, oh! I had it! 346 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:35,693 Lit up even more when you went down just a hair-- Like, look. 347 00:16:35,695 --> 00:16:39,263 -[Jason] Hmm. Right there. -[exclaims] Almost on it. 348 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:40,731 [Jason] What is that high? 349 00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:44,602 I mean, it really makes you wonder if this is like, a kid. 350 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:48,406 [Steve groans] Right here, J. 351 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:52,210 -Right here. -[beeping] 352 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,514 [Jason] Are any of the Sayre children here? 353 00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:58,249 Do you like to play in the house? 354 00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:00,351 It's moving. 355 00:17:01,921 --> 00:17:04,022 [Steve] All happening around that device. 356 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:08,726 -[Jason] Is it fully gone? -[Steve] Completely gone. 357 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:15,500 [Jason] All right, why don't we head back to command center? 358 00:17:17,604 --> 00:17:18,803 [Jason on radio] Hey, Sam, Shari? 359 00:17:18,805 --> 00:17:20,705 We're heading down to go over some evidence. 360 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:22,440 Why don't you two hit the second floor? 361 00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:24,108 [Sam] Yeah, sure. 362 00:17:30,683 --> 00:17:33,618 [Sam] So, this is Sam and Shari 363 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,153 on the second floor. 364 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:39,724 Room 23. 365 00:17:41,928 --> 00:17:45,263 [Sam] One of the claims was a woman brushing her hair in the mirror. 366 00:17:45,331 --> 00:17:47,665 Which makes sense, this was the wives' room. 367 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:50,301 So, if you're listening at the mirror, 368 00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:53,337 we have a device that has a red light on it, 369 00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:55,506 and if you touch it, we will know. 370 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:58,409 [Shari] Wives of Robert Sayre, 371 00:17:58,411 --> 00:18:02,013 who all seemed to pass away in this house, 372 00:18:02,015 --> 00:18:03,614 are any of you here? 373 00:18:05,518 --> 00:18:11,856 [floor creaking] 374 00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:13,825 -[Shari] Who's upstairs? -Nobody should be up there. 375 00:18:13,827 --> 00:18:16,527 -I know. -[footsteps above] 376 00:18:16,529 --> 00:18:18,763 -[Shari] That's loud. -Do you want to walk up there? 377 00:18:18,832 --> 00:18:19,864 [Shari] Yeah. 378 00:18:21,901 --> 00:18:23,601 [footsteps] 379 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:27,105 [Sam] Hello? 380 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:32,510 [Shari] So, we were just downstairs, 381 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:35,046 we heard you walking around up here. 382 00:18:35,048 --> 00:18:37,215 [Sam] If you're here, could you make a sound? 383 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:43,321 Robert, we heard you walking. Can you come back in here? 384 00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:47,325 [Sam] Soon, we're gonna go somewhere else. 385 00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,061 So, if you're comfortable with us, 386 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,963 and you would like to say something before we go, 387 00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:53,464 now is your time. 388 00:19:01,141 --> 00:19:03,107 [Jason on radio] Hey, great night, everybody. 389 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:04,709 We've had some interesting activity. 390 00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:06,611 So, let's regroup at command center. 391 00:19:07,614 --> 00:19:08,513 [Dave] Copy. 392 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:11,315 [insects trilling] 393 00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,051 hey ladies, how'd it go? 394 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,553 -Pretty good. -[Sam] We started on the second floor 395 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,088 and there were footsteps above us. 396 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:19,357 -You think, definitely paranormal? -Yeah, they were. 397 00:19:19,425 --> 00:19:21,726 -[Dustin] Hey, guys. -Hey, guys, how's it go? 398 00:19:21,728 --> 00:19:24,428 We were getting a few sounds that reacts to Mary, so... 399 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:27,098 -Yeah. Two of 'em died here. -Well, right. 400 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,500 I mean, it's getting late, so, what are you thinking? 401 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:32,103 [Dave] You know, people have had experiences when they sleep here. 402 00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:34,405 Does anybody want to just stay the night? 403 00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:35,940 Yeah, the people who've stayed here, 404 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:38,509 mainly that have an experience have been females. 405 00:19:38,511 --> 00:19:41,879 Right? I mean, is that something you two would feel comfortable with? 406 00:19:41,881 --> 00:19:43,314 -Definitely. 100 percent. -Yeah, we'll stay. 407 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:45,249 -Absolutely. -[Sam] I'll take the office. 408 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:48,419 -And I'll take upstairs. -Well, cool, then let's wrap it up. 409 00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:53,925 [Jason] Samantha and Shari are going to continue the investigation overnight 410 00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:56,694 [Sam] All right, I'm going to take 11. 411 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:59,297 -You're going to take 32? -Okay. I'm gonna take 32. Yup. 412 00:19:59,299 --> 00:20:01,199 -Good night. -Good night. 413 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:04,936 [Jason] Witnesses claim to feel someone is in or on the bed with them. 414 00:20:04,938 --> 00:20:06,837 While sleeping in these two bedrooms. 415 00:20:08,107 --> 00:20:11,609 [Sam] This is Sam in room 11 416 00:20:11,611 --> 00:20:14,545 I know that this was Robert Sayre's office. 417 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:22,853 Mr. Sayre, if you're here, my name is Samantha. 418 00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:25,122 And I'm going to be spending the night 419 00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:27,024 in your office. 420 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:33,464 I hear somebody likes to tear the curtains off the windows. 421 00:20:33,499 --> 00:20:35,299 I wouldn't want you to rip it down again. 422 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:37,602 But I would love for you to move those curtains. 423 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:48,346 This is Shari, I'm up here in room 32. 424 00:20:48,447 --> 00:20:50,514 Where the sheets were being tugged 425 00:20:50,516 --> 00:20:55,419 and they also felt somebody coming into bed with them. 426 00:20:56,623 --> 00:21:00,358 Robert Sayre? Are you in here with me? 427 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:05,696 Mary, did you die in this room? 428 00:21:18,144 --> 00:21:21,045 [Sam] I'm going to be laying here all night. 429 00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:24,148 And, if you need me, I would love for you to grab my attention. 430 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,332 [clicking sound] 431 00:21:42,035 --> 00:21:43,401 [Shari] Oh, my God. 432 00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:00,484 [Shari] Hello? 433 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,423 [Shari on radio] Sam? 434 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,926 How is it up on the third floor? 435 00:22:08,928 --> 00:22:12,229 [Shari] I think that I hear, like, movement. 436 00:22:12,298 --> 00:22:14,498 [Sam] If you need me, just let me know, okay? 437 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,067 [Shari on radio] Absolutely 438 00:22:16,069 --> 00:22:17,568 Have a good night. 439 00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:26,911 -[Jason] Hey, hey! -[Sam] Hey, guys. 440 00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:28,045 So, how'd it go? 441 00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:29,480 [Shari] I only had, like, a noise. 442 00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:32,283 Right in the middle, there was like, a little shifting. 443 00:22:32,285 --> 00:22:35,386 What was it? A response? After like a direct question? 444 00:22:35,388 --> 00:22:37,121 No question. I was just lying down. 445 00:22:37,223 --> 00:22:38,923 -Interesting. -What about you, Sam? 446 00:22:38,925 --> 00:22:42,727 I mean, I was trying everything but, it was quiet for me. 447 00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:45,129 -[Dave] We'll still need to check out the footage. -Yeah. 448 00:22:45,231 --> 00:22:47,164 What are your thoughts on researching this property? 449 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:49,600 -We just have so many gaps. -[Dave] Mmm-hmm. 450 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:52,169 I thought maybe, me and you could meet up with a historian. 451 00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:53,471 -Perfect. -Let's do it. 452 00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:56,240 [Jason] As the team reviews footage 453 00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:58,509 from Shari and Samantha's overnight stay, 454 00:22:58,511 --> 00:23:01,312 as well as evidence from our night's investigation.. 455 00:23:01,314 --> 00:23:02,980 I see, I see, yup. 456 00:23:02,982 --> 00:23:05,282 All right, I even marked the video on that. 457 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:08,185 [Jason] ...Samantha and Tang are at steel stacks, 458 00:23:08,187 --> 00:23:10,421 formally known as Bethlehem Steel. 459 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,190 [Dave] I mean, Robert Sayre, he had a big part of this. 460 00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:16,427 [Jason] To learn more about Robert Sayre and his family 461 00:23:16,462 --> 00:23:18,729 Martha, thank you so much for meeting with us. 462 00:23:18,831 --> 00:23:21,265 Oh, it's a pleasure. Nice to meet you both. 463 00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:24,568 [Dave] So, how is this steel site connected to Robert Sayre? 464 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:26,303 [Martha] Where we are right now, 465 00:23:26,305 --> 00:23:28,973 at the site of the former Bethlehem Steel, 466 00:23:28,975 --> 00:23:31,609 actually originated as Bethlehem Iron. 467 00:23:31,611 --> 00:23:34,512 And Robert Sayre founded Bethlehem Iron 468 00:23:34,514 --> 00:23:38,115 for the purpose of making train tracks. 469 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:41,118 Can you tell us a little bit more about Robert Sayre, himself? 470 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:45,022 Robert Sayre was the most important resident 471 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,291 of eastern Pennsylvania in the 19th century. 472 00:23:47,293 --> 00:23:49,093 -[Dave] Wow. -[Martha] We know he was well off 473 00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:52,129 for the work that he had don to build the railroad. 474 00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:53,296 [Dave] Right, okay. 475 00:23:53,366 --> 00:23:55,599 Is there anything you can tell me about his wives? 476 00:23:55,701 --> 00:23:59,003 I mean, we know that three passed away during their time at the property. 477 00:23:59,005 --> 00:24:01,806 He was married the longest with his first wife. 478 00:24:01,808 --> 00:24:04,008 Had most of his children with Mary Evelyn. 479 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:06,677 It's not known exactly what she died of. 480 00:24:06,679 --> 00:24:11,782 HIs second wife was Mary Bradford. She died in 1877. 481 00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:16,821 And then, his third wife, Helen Augusta died only a few years later. 482 00:24:16,922 --> 00:24:20,224 -She apparently had tuberculosis. -Wow. 483 00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:24,628 I think that Sayre married as often as he did 484 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:27,231 because he had these young children at home. 485 00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:30,401 And I think he wanted them to have a mother. 486 00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:32,202 [Dave] Okay. 487 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:34,038 And didn't he also have three children who died on the property? 488 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,442 Yes, unfortunately, Francis Rodolphus died before he was five. 489 00:24:38,444 --> 00:24:40,978 Then, Cecil died when he was 11 months. 490 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,913 And, Ellen May, was a baby. 491 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:44,615 -[Dave] Okay. -[Martha] Very sad. 492 00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,218 [Shari] So, Robert lost so many wives and so many children. 493 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:48,919 Was there anything suspicious about that? 494 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:50,421 There really wasn't. 495 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:54,124 Industrialization was doing pretty bad things to the air. 496 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:56,293 [Dave] Can you tell us more just about the mansion itself? 497 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,929 Apparently, when he bought the property, 498 00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:01,565 there is a record of there having been a cemetery. 499 00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,367 -A cemetery? -[Martha] Yes. Yes. 500 00:25:03,369 --> 00:25:08,005 The cemetery only shows up in some 18th century maps. 501 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:09,707 [Dave] So, is there a possibility 502 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:12,877 that there's still remains in the ground? 503 00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,979 Could it be underneath the mansion itself? 504 00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,479 It might have been... 505 00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:19,116 But if there were people buried there, there were not very many. 506 00:25:19,218 --> 00:25:20,517 Okay. 507 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,786 -This is a lot of information. -A lot of great information. 508 00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:24,722 Martha, you've been fantastic. 509 00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:26,056 -[Shari] Thank you so much. -Pleasure. Thank you. 510 00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:30,794 [Steve] Hey, how did that go 511 00:25:30,796 --> 00:25:32,329 -It was great, actually. -Really? 512 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,765 So, were you able to find out anything on wives? 513 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:37,101 So, we do know three wives died in the home. 514 00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:40,070 We don't have to refer to them as Mary One and Mary Two, anymore. 515 00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:42,006 His first wife was Mary Evelyn. 516 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:44,475 She died aged 44, no suspicious causes. 517 00:25:44,477 --> 00:25:47,077 She had lived a hard life. This was a very polluted area. 518 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,113 His second wife was Mary Bradford. 519 00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:52,616 The third wife, Helen Augusta, passed away in 1880. 520 00:25:52,685 --> 00:25:56,487 But again, no mysterious causes. That was the times. 521 00:25:56,489 --> 00:25:59,023 -[Dustin] Well, it still seems pretty unlucky. -Yeah. 522 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:02,893 So, about the mansion, it was built on a burial ground. 523 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:04,128 -Oh. -This place was? 524 00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:06,997 -[Dave] Yes. -The plot thickens. Wow. 525 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:08,799 I feel like it's right out of the movie, Poltergeis 526 00:26:08,801 --> 00:26:10,701 [chuckles softly] It's still a mystery here. 527 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:12,670 -So, it's more than mystery now. -Yeah. 528 00:26:19,178 --> 00:26:21,178 [Jason] Tonight, we're goin to continue to try 529 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,314 and reach Robert and his three wives, 530 00:26:23,316 --> 00:26:27,217 Mary Evelyn, Mary Bradford and Helen Augusta. 531 00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,386 All of whom passed away in the mansion. 532 00:26:29,388 --> 00:26:31,722 As well, as one of Robert's children 533 00:26:31,824 --> 00:26:34,091 four and a half year old, Francis Rodolphus. 534 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:36,961 As the others would be too young to communicate with us. 535 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:40,631 We're also going to see if there's any connection 536 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:43,300 to phenomena and the graves beneath the mansion. 537 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:49,373 Samantha and Dustin will start tonight's investigatio on the third floor. 538 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:51,709 [Dave] All right, I think we're all set. 539 00:26:51,711 --> 00:26:54,311 [Jason] Steve and Tango will check out Robert Sayre's office, 540 00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:56,413 adjoining the library on the main floor. 541 00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:59,617 Shari and I will watch the monitors. 542 00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:06,323 [Dustin] This is Sam and Dustin and we are on the top floor, 543 00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:08,592 in room 32. 544 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:12,596 Here, we have claims of someone laying next to somebody in the bed, 545 00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:14,598 someone crawling up on the bed. 546 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,101 [Sam] And then, just an ominous feeling. 547 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,770 [Dustin] I'll put my recorder here. 548 00:27:19,772 --> 00:27:22,272 Is any member of the Sayre family here? 549 00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:28,212 [Sam] Is Robert's son, Francis Rodolphus, here with us? 550 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,482 [Dustin] You can make a knocking sound. 551 00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:32,716 -[knock] -[Dustin] Once for yes. 552 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:34,585 -[double knock] -[Dustin] Twice for no. 553 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:39,523 [faint knock] 554 00:27:39,525 --> 00:27:42,292 -I just heard a knock behind me. -[Sam] I heard that, too. 555 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:48,298 [Steve] Do you think that's Mr. Sayre? 556 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,300 -[Dave] Yeah, that's him. -Let's bring this. 557 00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:51,535 [Dave] Absolutely. 558 00:27:51,537 --> 00:27:53,303 Robert Sayre, you're coming with us. 559 00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:01,812 [Steve] This is where curtains were torn down and a presence was felt. 560 00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:03,514 100 percent where he would be. 561 00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:08,285 Does anybody in here recognize this gentleman? 562 00:28:08,287 --> 00:28:10,120 This is Mr. Robert Sayre. 563 00:28:11,424 --> 00:28:12,923 He built this house. 564 00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:17,127 [Dave] Robert, are you still here? 565 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,468 [Steve] We're sorry that so much tragedy was experienced here. 566 00:28:25,971 --> 00:28:27,271 [Dave] Mary Bradford? 567 00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:29,506 Mary Evelyn? 568 00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:31,809 Helen? 569 00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:33,877 Can you tell us anything about your husband? 570 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:36,613 -Before we came here-- -[loud rumble] 571 00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:37,948 [bleep] Christmas! 572 00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:45,054 [bleep] 573 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:46,423 I was trying to call you guys on the walkie. 574 00:28:46,425 --> 00:28:48,292 [chuckles] Oh, you popped out of nowhere. 575 00:28:48,294 --> 00:28:49,593 Scared the hell out of me. 576 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:52,396 -[Jason] Shari and I are gonna head downstairs. -Okay. 577 00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:54,198 [Jason] Pretty much you guys, right? 578 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,265 Gotcha. 579 00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:57,101 [Steve] All right, let's wrap up our gear. 580 00:28:58,804 --> 00:29:01,905 [Dave] I honestly feel like someone was listening. 581 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,607 [Steve] Yeah, you're right. I don't think 582 00:29:03,609 --> 00:29:06,310 -what we said here fell on deaf ears. -[Dave] Right. 583 00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:14,885 [Jason] J and Shari heading to basement area. 584 00:29:14,887 --> 00:29:19,123 [Shari] Claims downstairs are shadow figures running around. 585 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,693 [eerie sound] 586 00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:26,597 [Jason] All right so, this is a 360 motion sensor. 587 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,065 -[Shari] Okay. -And when I turn it on, 588 00:29:28,067 --> 00:29:30,033 we'll have to make sure we're out of the perimeter. 589 00:29:30,035 --> 00:29:32,469 -About ten feet. -[Shari] Okay. 590 00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:34,304 [Jason] And now when I walk out of it. 591 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:35,873 -[beeping] -[Shari] Oh, okay. 592 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:39,777 All right. Is there anyone here who would like to talk with us? 593 00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:43,480 We have some pieces of equipment in here which will allow us to communicate. 594 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:46,083 There's a device that's lighting up blue. 595 00:29:46,085 --> 00:29:47,785 That if you walk near... 596 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:49,620 It should let us know that you're there. 597 00:29:52,191 --> 00:29:54,158 [Shari] Is there anybody here 598 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,628 that was buried in the cemetery that used to be here? 599 00:29:59,832 --> 00:30:01,598 If you get close to that device, 600 00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:03,400 that's going on in a circle, 601 00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,302 it'll let us know that you're there. 602 00:30:06,772 --> 00:30:08,138 [beeping] 603 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:09,907 -I mean, it's picking up something. -[Shari] Right. 604 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:12,709 -[Jason] Like, towards the doorway. -[Shari] Right. 605 00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:14,511 Whatever it is, seems to be getting closer. 606 00:30:16,882 --> 00:30:19,016 -[beeping continues] -Yeah, I mean, it's picking it up. 607 00:30:19,018 --> 00:30:20,617 [Shari] Oh, my God! 608 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:33,730 [Dustin] I think the knocking came from across the hall there. 609 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:38,769 [Sam] Sam and Dustin entering room 31. 610 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,373 [Sam] Is anybody in here? 611 00:30:43,375 --> 00:30:46,410 [Dustin] Maybe, someone who is buried on this property? 612 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:50,314 [Sam] One knock for yes? Two knocks for no? 613 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:56,620 Knock once if you lived in this house. 614 00:30:57,723 --> 00:30:59,823 -[knock] -That's one. 615 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,596 You lived in this house. Are you Mr. Sayre? 616 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,467 Were you married to Mr. Sayre? 617 00:31:11,871 --> 00:31:14,004 -[knock] -Yup. 618 00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:17,274 If your name was Mary Evelyn, could you knock once? 619 00:31:19,812 --> 00:31:23,413 If your name was Mary Bradford, could you knock once? 620 00:31:24,817 --> 00:31:26,583 -[knock] -[Sam] Yup. 621 00:31:26,585 --> 00:31:28,485 Mary Bradford, that's the one Dave and I were talking to. 622 00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:32,489 'Cause I was calling her Mary the second and I don't think she likes that. 623 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,793 Mary, do you still love this house? 624 00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:38,695 [two knocks] 625 00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:39,730 [together] No. 626 00:31:46,939 --> 00:31:48,104 Wow. 627 00:31:49,308 --> 00:31:51,975 Can you tell us why you don't love this house, Mary? 628 00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,582 Mary, if you're still here with us, 629 00:31:58,584 --> 00:32:03,220 we'd like to know, was Robert Sayre a good husband and father? 630 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:06,089 [Sam] One knock for yes. Two knocks for no. 631 00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:09,793 -[single knock] -[Dustin] Yup. 632 00:32:09,795 --> 00:32:11,328 -That's one. -That's one. 633 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:14,164 [Dustin] Thank you so much, Mary, we appreciate it. 634 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:16,800 The main reason we were asked to come here was to find out... 635 00:32:16,869 --> 00:32:19,069 Is the Sayre house still a safe place? 636 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,273 [single knock] 637 00:32:24,677 --> 00:32:26,076 Just one. That's a yes. 638 00:32:26,078 --> 00:32:27,210 I mean, that's the big question, 639 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,046 that's what we needed to know. 640 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,814 [Dustin] Mary, are you still here with us? 641 00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:36,887 -Maybe she's gone. -She might just be gone, yeah. 642 00:32:38,590 --> 00:32:42,526 [eerie music playing] 643 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:54,705 [Jason] Maybe make any of these pieces of equipment go off a little more. 644 00:32:54,707 --> 00:32:56,707 Just by getting closer to them. 645 00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:59,109 -[device vibrating] -[Jason] All right. 646 00:32:59,111 --> 00:33:01,678 -That's happening on cue. -[Shari] Right. 647 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,081 [Jason] Only when we're asking questions. 648 00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:05,749 There's the other device on the table. 649 00:33:05,751 --> 00:33:06,883 It's lit up blue. 650 00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:09,386 By going to one side, it'll light up green. 651 00:33:09,388 --> 00:33:11,488 And on the other side, it'll light up red. 652 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:13,323 [Shari] So, when we ask you questions, 653 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:17,494 if the answer is yes, you're going to go to the green side. 654 00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:21,231 And if the answer is no, you'll light up the red side. 655 00:33:23,035 --> 00:33:25,702 Again, is there anyone here with us 656 00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:29,673 who was buried in the cemetery on this property in the 1700s? 657 00:33:31,977 --> 00:33:33,276 -[Shari] If so, can-- -[device beeping] 658 00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:36,813 -[Jason] Oh. -No? Okay. 659 00:33:36,915 --> 00:33:39,216 -[Jason] That's the first time it lit up. -Yeah. 660 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,786 [Jason] Is anyone here from the Sayre family? 661 00:33:44,289 --> 00:33:46,790 [Shari] Francis Rodolphus? Is that you? 662 00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:50,427 Are you still playing in this room? 663 00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:53,997 We know that you might be afraid of us. 664 00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:58,402 Because nobody's ever been in here before asking you questions. 665 00:33:58,470 --> 00:34:00,303 Please do not be afraid. 666 00:34:02,007 --> 00:34:06,009 If it's somebody who's not one of the Sayre's children, 667 00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:07,878 would you be willing to come and talk with us? 668 00:34:09,314 --> 00:34:10,947 -[device beeps] -[Shari] Oh. 669 00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:14,017 [Shari] Green for yes. Thank you. 670 00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:15,519 [Jason] That was-- That was dead on. 671 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:17,521 -[Shari] Yeah. -Right when I asked the question. Boom. 672 00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:18,388 Yeah. 673 00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:22,926 Is your name Robert Sayre? 674 00:34:22,928 --> 00:34:24,194 -[device beeps] -[together] Oh. 675 00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,196 -[Jason] Okay. -Thank you. 676 00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:28,131 So, Robert, you're here with us? 677 00:34:30,903 --> 00:34:34,037 Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again? 678 00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:38,475 [deep male voice] Yeah. 679 00:34:38,477 --> 00:34:40,677 [Shari gasps] 680 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,946 -You-- You heard that? -[Shari] I heard that! 681 00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,389 [Shari] Go harder! 682 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:53,690 [Jason] Holy [bleep] 683 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:56,193 If I had hair, it would all be standing up right now. 684 00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,527 [Shari chuckles] 685 00:34:57,529 --> 00:35:00,430 So, first time, initially asked if it was Robert Sayre. 686 00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:01,431 [Shari] And it went to green. 687 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:02,999 [Jason] And then we're asking again... 688 00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:05,202 [Shari] And it's like, "Yeah." 689 00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:08,305 Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again? 690 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:13,810 -[deep male voice] Yeah. -[Shari gasps] 691 00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:17,781 -You-- You heard that? -[Shari] I heard that! 692 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,583 -Ask away. I mean... -[Shari] Okay. 693 00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:20,984 So, Robert, 694 00:35:20,986 --> 00:35:24,521 we definitely heard you that time and thank you so much. 695 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:28,692 Robert, did you harm anybody in your family? 696 00:35:30,996 --> 00:35:32,629 -[device beeps] -[Shari] No? 697 00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:34,797 Thank you. 698 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:38,034 That's why we're here. We're just trying to get your story straight. 699 00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:40,770 Is there anything that you'd like to tell anybody? 700 00:35:43,876 --> 00:35:45,709 Robert, are you still here? 701 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,812 [Jason] Robert? 702 00:35:54,386 --> 00:35:57,287 [Steve on radio] Hey guys, I think we got the answers we came for. 703 00:35:57,289 --> 00:36:00,323 -So, let's wrap and go through our footage. -Copy that. 704 00:36:06,131 --> 00:36:08,365 The activity that many people have experienced here, 705 00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:10,867 I think that we've been able to document and back up. 706 00:36:10,869 --> 00:36:12,802 Now, we just need to start going through all the stuff, 707 00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,105 finding some answers to help Sarah out 708 00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:18,575 and everybody else here at the Sayre Mansion, to the best of our abilities. 709 00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:21,111 This is a case where I think we're going to help the client, 710 00:36:21,113 --> 00:36:23,980 mostly, through our research. 711 00:36:23,982 --> 00:36:27,117 Once we wrap our heads around all of the data, 712 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,385 we may have an answer. 713 00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:30,320 [car door closes] 714 00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:37,427 [Steve] Looking forward to sitting down with Sarah. 715 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:40,730 I'm excited to let her know about the history. 716 00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:43,466 Well, until we tell her about the whole burial plot. 717 00:36:43,468 --> 00:36:45,702 Yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting. 718 00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:54,978 Well, Sarah, thanks for entrusting us to see what was going on here. 719 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:56,112 Thank you for being here. 720 00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:57,614 And you told us about the claims. 721 00:36:57,616 --> 00:36:59,416 People seeing shadow type figures, 722 00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,184 hearing voices, laying in the bed, 723 00:37:01,186 --> 00:37:03,119 and feeling a presence beside you. 724 00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:05,589 We were able to have a bunch of experiences. 725 00:37:05,591 --> 00:37:08,191 So, I'd like to play some of those. Get your take on it. 726 00:37:08,193 --> 00:37:09,959 Okay. 727 00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:12,429 Dave and Dustin, two of our investigators, they were down in the wine cellar, 728 00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:13,897 and there was this weird whistle 729 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:16,199 that seemed to happen while they were down there. 730 00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:18,034 Let's take a listen to it. 731 00:37:18,036 --> 00:37:19,502 [Dave] Similar to what I heard before. 732 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:22,372 [whistling] 733 00:37:22,374 --> 00:37:23,873 I definitely heard that. 734 00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:27,611 [Dustin] What was that? 735 00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:29,479 Similar to what I heard before. 736 00:37:29,481 --> 00:37:31,114 [whistling] 737 00:37:32,484 --> 00:37:35,619 J and I were investigating upstairs, 738 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:39,389 and it was, you know, directly responding to the questions. 739 00:37:39,391 --> 00:37:40,523 You can actually take a listen. 740 00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:43,193 -Oh, this is right by 32. -Yeah. I think so. 741 00:37:43,195 --> 00:37:45,962 -[Jason on tape] Let us know you're here, like this -[knock] 742 00:37:47,332 --> 00:37:48,598 [knock] 743 00:37:49,801 --> 00:37:51,368 [inhales deeply] Wow. 744 00:37:51,370 --> 00:37:55,405 It's just getting direct communication back and forth. 745 00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:56,673 That's interesting. 746 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:58,575 [Jason] If somebody's here, can you knock? 747 00:37:58,577 --> 00:38:01,311 -Let us know you're here. Like this. -[knock] 748 00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:04,547 [faint knock] 749 00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:06,216 That was a knock, Steve. 750 00:38:06,218 --> 00:38:09,619 Sometimes, it's the only way that they're able to do that back and forth. 751 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:13,723 Dustin and Samantha, my daughter, headed upstairs. 752 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:16,693 And, they got direct responses, as well. 753 00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:20,997 "Give us a knock once for yes, twice for no." 754 00:38:20,999 --> 00:38:24,501 [Sam] If your name is Mary Bradford, could you knock once? 755 00:38:26,038 --> 00:38:28,104 -[knock] -Wow. 756 00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:30,407 And you see how quick those happen. Boom-boom. 757 00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:33,009 This just went on and on, listen to this as well. 758 00:38:33,945 --> 00:38:36,379 [Sam] Mary, do you still love this house? 759 00:38:37,416 --> 00:38:38,515 -[double knock] -Oh my God. 760 00:38:38,517 --> 00:38:39,783 [Sam and Dustin] No. 761 00:38:39,918 --> 00:38:41,317 [Jason] Now, when you hear that, 762 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,321 you might take it as like, "Why doesn't she love this house?" 763 00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:46,690 It wasn't the house that was technically built for her. 764 00:38:46,692 --> 00:38:49,693 -I mean, she's coming in as the second wife. -[Sarah] Mmm-hmm. 765 00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:52,128 But you've also got to consider it's changed a lot. 766 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,930 -Yeah. -If she's still here. 767 00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:56,399 Shari, one of the investigators and myself, 768 00:38:56,401 --> 00:38:58,501 we were downstairs in the conference room. 769 00:38:58,603 --> 00:39:00,337 Just take a listen to this voice. 770 00:39:00,339 --> 00:39:03,506 [Jason] Robert, if that's yo can you go near one of the devices again? 771 00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:04,808 [device beeping] 772 00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:08,778 -[device beeping] -[male voice] Yeah. 773 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,480 Oh, my goodness. 774 00:39:10,482 --> 00:39:13,216 -Is he saying, "Yeah"? -Yeah, it's exactly what we heard. 775 00:39:13,285 --> 00:39:14,750 Wow. 776 00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:18,722 Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again? 777 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:19,789 [device beeping] 778 00:39:21,426 --> 00:39:23,126 -[device beeping] -[male voice] Yeah. 779 00:39:23,128 --> 00:39:25,428 [Shari gasps] 780 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,397 I mean, they're really interesting, I have to be honest, 781 00:39:27,399 --> 00:39:28,631 Yikes, okay. 782 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:32,402 We had Samantha and Shari stay in the rooms 11 and 32. 783 00:39:32,404 --> 00:39:35,572 Where you had people lying on the beds and feeling people laying beside them. 784 00:39:35,574 --> 00:39:38,041 -Wow. -Shari heard some noises, 785 00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:41,678 but besides that, they really didn't have anything happen. 786 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,414 I know when we first got here, you had told us that 787 00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:47,917 Robert Sayre seemed a little disconnected from family. 788 00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:50,420 -[Sarah] Mmm-hmm. -But what we discovered 789 00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:52,422 was somebody who was the family man, 790 00:39:52,524 --> 00:39:55,592 no record of foul play, at all. 791 00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:58,395 [Shari] Robert, did you harm anybody in your family? 792 00:39:59,431 --> 00:40:00,897 -[device beeping] -[Shari] No? 793 00:40:01,366 --> 00:40:02,665 Okay. 794 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:05,935 So, this paints a much different picture of Robert Sayre. 795 00:40:05,937 --> 00:40:08,872 That could change the experience from something scary 796 00:40:08,874 --> 00:40:12,108 to "Oh, maybe, he should be here with us." 797 00:40:12,110 --> 00:40:13,977 -Yeah. -[Jason] But we did find out 798 00:40:13,979 --> 00:40:18,515 that where the house is built now, used to be an actual burial plot. 799 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,784 -What was an old cemetery. -Oh, my gosh, really? 800 00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:22,185 Yeah. 100 percent, yeah. 801 00:40:22,187 --> 00:40:24,220 I did not know that. Wow. 802 00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:25,822 But everything we caught 803 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:30,727 seems to come back to Robert Sayre or his wives. 804 00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:32,294 Could it be one of the Sayre's children? 805 00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:35,865 Yeah, but most of them passed when they were young. Really young. 806 00:40:35,867 --> 00:40:37,500 That's very interesting. 807 00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,668 It's actually awesome. 808 00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:40,804 You know, to think about it, it's a living history. 809 00:40:40,872 --> 00:40:42,571 [Sarah] Yeah. 810 00:40:42,573 --> 00:40:45,975 It doesn't sound like you captured anything that wants to do harm or anything. 811 00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:49,312 When you're able to make direct communication and they respond, 812 00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:51,414 that's the sign of an intelligent type spirit. 813 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:53,016 So, if something intelligent, 814 00:40:53,018 --> 00:40:54,717 a lot of times, you can just tell it, 815 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,787 "Hey, you know, I don't feel comfortable with this. Please leave me alone." 816 00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,689 And most of the time, they'll respect that. 817 00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:00,723 Right. 818 00:41:01,827 --> 00:41:03,326 I have no problem doing that. 819 00:41:03,328 --> 00:41:05,128 I mean, hopefully, the things that we've shown you 820 00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:07,697 takes away some of that fear and just empowers you 821 00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:09,232 but if you need anything, we're only a call away 822 00:41:09,267 --> 00:41:11,301 and we can be here as quickly as you need. So... 823 00:41:11,403 --> 00:41:13,470 -Awesome. -[Jason] Thank you so much for having us out. 824 00:41:13,472 --> 00:41:14,938 Thank you guys. Thank you so much. 825 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:16,606 -Sarah, this was great. Thank you. -[Sarah] Thank you. 826 00:41:17,943 --> 00:41:19,375 I do feel better 827 00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:24,681 knowing that TAPS confirmed what we've all been experiencing. 828 00:41:24,683 --> 00:41:29,519 Sounds like if we want these spirits to leave us alone, that we can just simply ask. 829 00:41:29,588 --> 00:41:32,789 And, I'm not concerned that my guests will feel unsafe. 830 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,428 Sarah seemed happy with the evidence we caught. 831 00:41:38,497 --> 00:41:40,129 But, it spooked her out. 832 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:41,965 -It did, but... -We had to be honest. 833 00:41:41,967 --> 00:41:43,066 [Steve] We have to be honest. 834 00:41:43,068 --> 00:41:46,169 And, knowing what Robert Sayre was like, 835 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:47,703 I think that's gonna help her. 836 00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:51,074 And just having Dustin and Samantha out there was a big plus, as well. 837 00:41:51,076 --> 00:41:53,209 -Oh, yeah. -Great job, brother. 838 00:41:53,311 --> 00:41:54,677 On to the next, man.