[investigator] I heard a sound before.
Before we came here.
-[loud crash] -[bleep] Christmas!
[Jason] A historic house of tragedies...
While he was here, he had four wives.
[man] Three died here.
My staff gets concerned about working alone.
[Jason] Reunite family and friends...
[woman] Oh, my God. Hello?
[Jason] ...To dig up grave revelations.
There is a record of there having been a cemetery.
Could it be underneath the mansion?
[man] It's right out of the movie Poltergeist.
I can hear it. The distant screaming.
-[voice] Yeah... -[woman gasps]
-[man] You heard that? -I heard that!
[theme music playing]
[train horn blaring]
So, Bethlehem, PA, man.
I'm excited about this one.
[Jason] The TAPS team is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvani
to investigate the centurie old Sayre Mansion.
Which has a history of mysterious deaths
and terrifying paranormal activity.
The Sayre Mansion was built in the 1800's by Robert Sayre,
who had made his fortune in iron and steel and a big part of the railroad.
Robert Sayre had four wives,
and three of them actually died in the house.
-[Jason] Yeah. -I would think twice about getting married to this guy.
[both laughing]
Supposedly, there are certain rooms in the house
that experience the brunt of the activity.
So, it'd be interesting to find out if, maybe,
those are the rooms that the wives stayed in?
Or they-- Where they passed on.
[Steve] But the activity, it's pretty rampant.
People have been experiencing everything from shadow figures,
feeling like something is keeping them in rooms.
[Jason] Sarah, who runs the place,
she was also saying stuff about laying in the bed
lying and feeling like somebody was lying beside her.
And, she's not the only one.
She's actually afraid of what is happening,
in that it might drive people out.
It certainly would be a misfortune
if the paranormal is a reason for a place to close.
Yeah. Also, it's a decent sized place.
We're bringing Dustin and my daughter, Samantha, in.
-Nice. -[Jason] It'd be good to investigate with them.
Awesome!
Well, I'm excited to get over there and see how we can help.
Let's figure this place out!
[Shari] Here we go!
[Steve] Look at this.
This is a haunted mansion.
[Jason] TAPS case.
Sayre Mansion, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Let's go find Sarah.
Let's do it!
[ominous music]
Hey Sarah, I'm Jason.
Thanks so much for making the trip out. Hi, nice to meet you.
Thanks for having us out.
[Jason] So, tell us some of the history of Sayre Mansion.
Robert Sayre was the Chief Engineer
for the Lehigh Valley Railroad.
[Sarah] And with that came a hefty salary.
So, this home was completed in 1858.
While Mr. Sayre was here, he had four wives.
-Not at the same time. -[both men chuckling]
[Sarah] Three of those wives did pass away here at the mansion.
Do you know his wives names?
Yeah, his first wife was Mary and his second wife was Mary--
Makes it easy.
[Sarah chuckles] And then, the third wife was Helena.
And the fourth wife?
Fourth wife was Martha.
And, as he got older, the wives got younger and younger.
DId they die under strange circumstances?
I can't find any records of how they passed.
One of them only lived 13 months after they married.
-Okay. -[Steve] How many children did Robert Sayre have?
Uhm, Mr. Sayre had 12 children.
Three of those children did pass away here at the mansion.
Do you know what the children passed away from?
I don't. I could never identify that.
[Jason] Robert Sayre lived in the home with his fourth wife
until he died in the mansio of natural causes in 1907,
at the age of 82.
What kind of person was Mr. Sayre, do you know?
I don't get the sense that he was a very loving person.
[Jason] After Mr. Sayre's death,
the mansion changed hands for the next several decades
Eventually, converted into apartments.
And then, low-income housing
In the early '90s, the building was sold,
restored and became a bed and breakfast.
So, what are you hoping that we're able to accomplish here?
Some of my staff gets really concerned about working alone.
They're getting scared a lot.
And, more importantly, I had a guest check out halfway through their stay,
because they felt like something was moving over their bed at night.
I certainly don't want to lose business
because of what's going on here.
And, now that we're busier, and I'm hearing more...
-Experiences. Yeah. Right. -It's upticking. Okay.
So, what type of activity are you all experiencing here?
One night, I was here late so, I figured, I would just stay here.
And, I stayed in room 11, on the first floor.
-[door creaking] -[Sarah] At one o'clock in the morning,
I woke up out of a dead sleep and felt something laying next to me.
I just told myself it was all in my head
and forced myself back to sleep.
That same night,
I woke up to a crash.
[loud crash]
The curtain rod was pulled out of the wall.
So, I jumped up and ran out of that room
and I won't sleep in there anymore.
[Jason] There's also a bedroom on the second floo
that is significant.
[Sarah] Room 23, in particular, was the wives' quarters.
Three of his wives had passed away in that space.
[Jason] It's also the room where people looking into an old mirror
have seen a reflection of a female apparition brushing her hair.
I try not to look in that mirror.
[Felicia] I leave the door propped open when I'm cleaning,
'cause it's almost a feeling of needing to escape if I had to.
Definitely like a presence of a person.
But you don't feel anything
has had any malicious intent while you've been here, right?
Sometimes on the third floor, yeah.
[Sarah] The third floor has just a different kind of feeling to it.
A bit ominous. Uhm, scary.
[Felicia] I also had an experience in room 34.
Right as I got to the door,
something was like, stopping me from going in.
It was that intense.
Whatever it was didn't want to enter the room.
[Sarah] Innkeepers have had experiences in room 32, on the third floor.
I hadn't told anyone about what I experienced
feeling like there was someone next to me in room 11.
My overnight innkeeper said in room 32, she experienced the same thing.
[innkeeper] The first night that I stayed in room 32,
I was by myself, I woke up.
And it felt like there was somebody sleeping next to me.
I was terrified but then, I just kept trying to think,
like, it has to be my mind playing tricks on me.
Uhm, it wasn't till that same night later,
is when I felt the pressure on my legs.
I felt like somebody crawling up into the bed.
Like, somebody was like, you know, tugging the sheets
Or somebody was like, sitting on me.
[Jason] In the basement,
Maggie and others have witnessed a shadow figure.
[Maggie] There's been a couple of nights
where I was downstairs, where I saw like a shadow moving across the wall.
And there was nobody down there at the time.
And I was absolutely terrified.
[Jason] Throughout the house there are reports of disembodied voices...
[sinister voices whispering]
-[footsteps approaching] -[Jason] Footsteps.
Electronics not working.
And claims of an entity tugging on clothing.
Guests are also frequently woken up at night
by strange disturbances.
So, anything else you think we should know?
I think that's it.
All right, I think from here, we're going to go talk to the crew.
Figure out where to start setting up the equipment
and get investigating.
Thanks so much for making the trip, guys. Thank you.
We'll get you some answers.
Well, well, well.
-Long time no see. -So good to see you.
[Samantha] I'm really excite to be back investigating with the TAPS team.
My dad and Steve and Dave have taught me just so much about investigating.
But there's also just so much that I've learned on my own
about how I want to approac an investigation like this.
I mean, there might be women involved here,
children involved here. I'm a mother, I'm a teacher.
There's that individualized plan that I'm going to attack this with.
-Good to see you man. -[Dustin] Good to see you.
It's great to be back out on the road with the TAPS crew, again.
Really looking forward to checking out the Sayre Mansion.
Mr. Sayre was important with not only the railroad,
but also the development of the Bethlehem Steel Company.
And, my father actually hauled steel out of the stee yards here.
So, I'm interested to see
if some of the things I can talk about, maybe, might bring out
the spirits to speak with us.
-[Steve] Hey guys! -[Samantha] Hey! how are you?
Hey, Stevie!
All right, so we just got done talking with Sarah.
-Okay. -I mean, there's a lot of different claims.
And, a lot of loss of life throughout the years.
Mr. Sayre's had four wives. Three died here. He died here.
-[Dave] In the house? Jeez. -[Jason] Yeah.
Been experiencing everything from laying on the beds
and feeling somebody laying beside them,
and seeing shadow type entities, voices.
[Dave] Since the three of the wives died in here,
do they say they see any females...
[Jason] Well, they do. They have a mirror upstairs
where they see a lady brushing her hair, in the mirror.
Also, they have a lot of problems with electronics in here too.
So, it'd be interesting to see if anything
-messes with our electronics. -[Dave] Yeah.
-So, let's get cracking. -All right, let's do it.
I'm excited for this one.
[Steve] There have been no formal investigations her
so, it allows us to go in with no preconceived notions.
And really dig into this pla and figure out everything th we want to know.
Was there some foul play? We'll find out.
[Jason] They've been losing business here.
But, they've also had employees who are terrified
to go into a lot of these locations.
And we don't want that for anybody.
We want people to feel comfortable.
So yeah, we have cameras on every level.
Every bedroom, everywhere that has an experience.
We had it all covered.
-Anything moves, we'll be able to catch it. -Right.
I think from here we can get the lights out and get investigating.
I think so, it's time.
All right, let's do it. Good job, guys.
[switch flips]
[Jason] Tonight, Dave and Dustin will start in the basement.
[Dave] Dave and Dustin, on our way towards the conference room,
in the basement.
All right, buddy.
[Jason] And Steve and I wil head up to the third floor.
[Steve] J and Steve. Heading all the way upstairs.
[Jason] Sam and Shari will keep an eye on any activity
that we pick up on the monitors.
[Dustin] Down in this area,
we know that there are claims of shadow figures.
[Dave] Definitely a different feel in here.
-It sounds different, the stone. -[Dustin] Yeah.
[Dustin] We're trying to speak to anybody
that might be here with us this evening.
[Dave] What I have in my hand can copy your voice.
Like a record.
I can play it back later.
[Dustin] Is any member of the Sayre family here with us this evening?
Maybe Robert Sayre?
[Dave] Mary? Robert's first wife.
Are you here with us?
Maybe the second Mary.
You probably didn't like being called that though.
[groans softly]
DId you hear that?
[Dave] Yup.
[Jason] So, here on the third floor, there's claims of electronics acting up.
And, I guess, in room 32, something was climbing into the bed.
We've got a full spectrum camera.
[Steve] This device here is an EM pump.
And what it does is it ionizes the atmosphere by introducing positive ions.
Whatever's here, if it does need energy
to manifest, to move objects, create a voice.
This is basically adding a little more fuel for it.
-Steve? -Yo.
I just went from a full battery to one bar.
[Steve] Oh, wow.
Maybe there's something to those reports of electronics fuddling.
[floor creaking]
This is the top floor.
So, I heard-- Sounded like we just heard footsteps above us.
Like, above us?
[Jason] If there's somebody here, can you knock?
Let us know you're here, like this?
[faint knock]
That was a knock, Steve. That was a direct knock.
I heard it.
What the [bleep]
If we knock again, can you knock back to us?
-[faint knock] -Ooh.
It's weird. Sounds like somebody's hitting a pillow.
-It was like a... -[knock]
-[Jason] Nope. -[knock]
Nothing sounds like it.
[Steve] Is anyone here from the Sayre family?
Robert Sayre?
[faint knock]
-Just then. -All right, there was a knock,
-but there's a noise in here. -[Steve] Really?
[Jason] Now, there's nothing. It's only happening when we're asking something.
Somebody was trying to talk to us through these rapping sounds,
and we'd love to figure out who that is.
Do you know who Mr. Sayre is? Robert Sayre.
[faint knock]
[Jason] I mean, that was intelligent.
There's absolutely no knock until you ask a question.
I want to see if maybe, I can locate that source.
[Jason] That'd be great.
[Steve] I can use this thermal IR detector.
It'll at least tell us if there's a mass here
that has a different temperature than we do.
Robert Sayre?
Are you here?
Are you willing to talk with us?
-[faint knock] -[Steve] That was a knock.
Robert Sayre?
We're looking for you.
-Just-- -[device beeping]
[Jason] What the hell's going on?
It's picking up a heat signature?
[Steve] I sure am. Right here.
[device continues beeping]
[Dave] We heard a sound before.
If that was you, can you do it again?
What are you doing down here in the basement?
There are some questions about how the Sayre wives passed away.
[Dustin] Was Robert to blame?
[soft whimpering]
[Dave] Ooh.
What did that sound like to you?
It sounded to me like a higher pitched voice.
-[Dave] Really? -Yeah.
I was only able to kind of hear almost a distant scream or a whimper.
[Dustin] Oh, okay.
Mary, are you here with us?
[Dave] Mary, Robert's second wife,
was that you?
[Dustin] Anybody else down here?
-Ah, we found where all the spirits came. -[Dave exclaims]
-[Dustin] Shall we have a seat and do a session? -[Dave] Sure.
People reported seeing shadow figures moving around down here.
Maybe, someone is here that is a member of the Sayre family?
Mary Sayre, are you here with us?
[whistling noise]
[Dustin] What was that?
-Similar to what I heard before. -[whistling noise]
There. I can hear it.
[Dustin] Sounds like somebody drinking through a straw.
Mary, if that's you, we are able to hear you.
Could you possibly do it again, Miss Mary Sayre?
[whistling noise]
[device beeping]
[Steve] There's a mass here,
I've got to triangulate it though. I gotta find the source.
-[beeping continues] -Oh, going away. That's going away from it.
I think it may be moving.
[beeping continues]
[Steve] Oh, oh! I had it!
Lit up even more when you went down just a hair-- Like, look.
-[Jason] Hmm. Right there. -[exclaims] Almost on it.
[Jason] What is that high?
I mean, it really makes you wonder if this is like, a kid.
[Steve groans] Right here, J.
-Right here. -[beeping]
[Jason] Are any of the Sayre children here?
Do you like to play in the house?
It's moving.
[Steve] All happening around that device.
-[Jason] Is it fully gone? -[Steve] Completely gone.
[Jason] All right, why don't we head back to command center?
[Jason on radio] Hey, Sam, Shari?
We're heading down to go over some evidence.
Why don't you two hit the second floor?
[Sam] Yeah, sure.
[Sam] So, this is Sam and Shari
on the second floor.
Room 23.
[Sam] One of the claims was a woman brushing her hair in the mirror.
Which makes sense, this was the wives' room.
So, if you're listening at the mirror,
we have a device that has a red light on it,
and if you touch it, we will know.
[Shari] Wives of Robert Sayre,
who all seemed to pass away in this house,
are any of you here?
[floor creaking]
-[Shari] Who's upstairs? -Nobody should be up there.
-I know. -[footsteps above]
-[Shari] That's loud. -Do you want to walk up there?
[Shari] Yeah.
[footsteps]
[Sam] Hello?
[Shari] So, we were just downstairs,
we heard you walking around up here.
[Sam] If you're here, could you make a sound?
Robert, we heard you walking. Can you come back in here?
[Sam] Soon, we're gonna go somewhere else.
So, if you're comfortable with us,
and you would like to say something before we go,
now is your time.
[Jason on radio] Hey, great night, everybody.
We've had some interesting activity.
So, let's regroup at command center.
[Dave] Copy.
[insects trilling]
hey ladies, how'd it go?
-Pretty good. -[Sam] We started on the second floor
and there were footsteps above us.
-You think, definitely paranormal? -Yeah, they were.
-[Dustin] Hey, guys. -Hey, guys, how's it go?
We were getting a few sounds that reacts to Mary, so...
-Yeah. Two of 'em died here. -Well, right.
I mean, it's getting late, so, what are you thinking?
[Dave] You know, people have had experiences when they sleep here.
Does anybody want to just stay the night?
Yeah, the people who've stayed here,
mainly that have an experience have been females.
Right? I mean, is that something you two would feel comfortable with?
-Definitely. 100 percent. -Yeah, we'll stay.
-Absolutely. -[Sam] I'll take the office.
-And I'll take upstairs. -Well, cool, then let's wrap it up.
[Jason] Samantha and Shari are going to continue the investigation overnight
[Sam] All right, I'm going to take 11.
-You're going to take 32? -Okay. I'm gonna take 32. Yup.
-Good night. -Good night.
[Jason] Witnesses claim to feel someone is in or on the bed with them.
While sleeping in these two bedrooms.
[Sam] This is Sam in room 11
I know that this was Robert Sayre's office.
Mr. Sayre, if you're here, my name is Samantha.
And I'm going to be spending the night
in your office.
I hear somebody likes to tear the curtains off the windows.
I wouldn't want you to rip it down again.
But I would love for you to move those curtains.
This is Shari, I'm up here in room 32.
Where the sheets were being tugged
and they also felt somebody coming into bed with them.
Robert Sayre? Are you in here with me?
Mary, did you die in this room?
[Sam] I'm going to be laying here all night.
And, if you need me, I would love for you to grab my attention.
[clicking sound]
[Shari] Oh, my God.
[Shari] Hello?
[Shari on radio] Sam?
How is it up on the third floor?
[Shari] I think that I hear, like, movement.
[Sam] If you need me, just let me know, okay?
[Shari on radio] Absolutely
Have a good night.
-[Jason] Hey, hey! -[Sam] Hey, guys.
So, how'd it go?
[Shari] I only had, like, a noise.
Right in the middle, there was like, a little shifting.
What was it? A response? After like a direct question?
No question. I was just lying down.
-Interesting. -What about you, Sam?
I mean, I was trying everything but, it was quiet for me.
-[Dave] We'll still need to check out the footage. -Yeah.
What are your thoughts on researching this property?
-We just have so many gaps. -[Dave] Mmm-hmm.
I thought maybe, me and you could meet up with a historian.
-Perfect. -Let's do it.
[Jason] As the team reviews footage
from Shari and Samantha's overnight stay,
as well as evidence from our night's investigation..
I see, I see, yup.
All right, I even marked the video on that.
[Jason] ...Samantha and Tang are at steel stacks,
formally known as Bethlehem Steel.
[Dave] I mean, Robert Sayre, he had a big part of this.
[Jason] To learn more about Robert Sayre and his family
Martha, thank you so much for meeting with us.
Oh, it's a pleasure. Nice to meet you both.
[Dave] So, how is this steel site connected to Robert Sayre?
[Martha] Where we are right now,
at the site of the former Bethlehem Steel,
actually originated as Bethlehem Iron.
And Robert Sayre founded Bethlehem Iron
for the purpose of making train tracks.
Can you tell us a little bit more about Robert Sayre, himself?
Robert Sayre was the most important resident
of eastern Pennsylvania in the 19th century.
-[Dave] Wow. -[Martha] We know he was well off
for the work that he had don to build the railroad.
[Dave] Right, okay.
Is there anything you can tell me about his wives?
I mean, we know that three passed away during their time at the property.
He was married the longest with his first wife.
Had most of his children with Mary Evelyn.
It's not known exactly what she died of.
HIs second wife was Mary Bradford. She died in 1877.
And then, his third wife, Helen Augusta died only a few years later.
-She apparently had tuberculosis. -Wow.
I think that Sayre married as often as he did
because he had these young children at home.
And I think he wanted them to have a mother.
[Dave] Okay.
And didn't he also have three children who died on the property?
Yes, unfortunately, Francis Rodolphus died before he was five.
Then, Cecil died when he was 11 months.
And, Ellen May, was a baby.
-[Dave] Okay. -[Martha] Very sad.
[Shari] So, Robert lost so many wives and so many children.
Was there anything suspicious about that?
There really wasn't.
Industrialization was doing pretty bad things to the air.
[Dave] Can you tell us more just about the mansion itself?
Apparently, when he bought the property,
there is a record of there having been a cemetery.
-A cemetery? -[Martha] Yes. Yes.
The cemetery only shows up in some 18th century maps.
[Dave] So, is there a possibility
that there's still remains in the ground?
Could it be underneath the mansion itself?
It might have been...
But if there were people buried there, there were not very many.
Okay.
-This is a lot of information. -A lot of great information.
Martha, you've been fantastic.
-[Shari] Thank you so much. -Pleasure. Thank you.
[Steve] Hey, how did that go
-It was great, actually. -Really?
So, were you able to find out anything on wives?
So, we do know three wives died in the home.
We don't have to refer to them as Mary One and Mary Two, anymore.
His first wife was Mary Evelyn.
She died aged 44, no suspicious causes.
She had lived a hard life. This was a very polluted area.
His second wife was Mary Bradford.
The third wife, Helen Augusta, passed away in 1880.
But again, no mysterious causes. That was the times.
-[Dustin] Well, it still seems pretty unlucky. -Yeah.
So, about the mansion, it was built on a burial ground.
-Oh. -This place was?
-[Dave] Yes. -The plot thickens. Wow.
I feel like it's right out of the movie, Poltergeis
[chuckles softly] It's still a mystery here.
-So, it's more than mystery now. -Yeah.
[Jason] Tonight, we're goin to continue to try
and reach Robert and his three wives,
Mary Evelyn, Mary Bradford and Helen Augusta.
All of whom passed away in the mansion.
As well, as one of Robert's children
four and a half year old, Francis Rodolphus.
As the others would be too young to communicate with us.
We're also going to see if there's any connection
to phenomena and the graves beneath the mansion.
Samantha and Dustin will start tonight's investigatio on the third floor.
[Dave] All right, I think we're all set.
[Jason] Steve and Tango will check out Robert Sayre's office,
adjoining the library on the main floor.
Shari and I will watch the monitors.
[Dustin] This is Sam and Dustin and we are on the top floor,
in room 32.
Here, we have claims of someone laying next to somebody in the bed,
someone crawling up on the bed.
[Sam] And then, just an ominous feeling.
[Dustin] I'll put my recorder here.
Is any member of the Sayre family here?
[Sam] Is Robert's son, Francis Rodolphus, here with us?
[Dustin] You can make a knocking sound.
-[knock] -[Dustin] Once for yes.
-[double knock] -[Dustin] Twice for no.
[faint knock]
-I just heard a knock behind me. -[Sam] I heard that, too.
[Steve] Do you think that's Mr. Sayre?
-[Dave] Yeah, that's him. -Let's bring this.
[Dave] Absolutely.
Robert Sayre, you're coming with us.
[Steve] This is where curtains were torn down and a presence was felt.
100 percent where he would be.
Does anybody in here recognize this gentleman?
This is Mr. Robert Sayre.
He built this house.
[Dave] Robert, are you still here?
[Steve] We're sorry that so much tragedy was experienced here.
[Dave] Mary Bradford?
Mary Evelyn?
Helen?
Can you tell us anything about your husband?
-Before we came here-- -[loud rumble]
[bleep] Christmas!
[bleep]
I was trying to call you guys on the walkie.
[chuckles] Oh, you popped out of nowhere.
Scared the hell out of me.
-[Jason] Shari and I are gonna head downstairs. -Okay.
[Jason] Pretty much you guys, right?
Gotcha.
[Steve] All right, let's wrap up our gear.
[Dave] I honestly feel like someone was listening.
[Steve] Yeah, you're right. I don't think
-what we said here fell on deaf ears. -[Dave] Right.
[Jason] J and Shari heading to basement area.
[Shari] Claims downstairs are shadow figures running around.
[eerie sound]
[Jason] All right so, this is a 360 motion sensor.
-[Shari] Okay. -And when I turn it on,
we'll have to make sure we're out of the perimeter.
-About ten feet. -[Shari] Okay.
[Jason] And now when I walk out of it.
-[beeping] -[Shari] Oh, okay.
All right. Is there anyone here who would like to talk with us?
We have some pieces of equipment in here which will allow us to communicate.
There's a device that's lighting up blue.
That if you walk near...
It should let us know that you're there.
[Shari] Is there anybody here
that was buried in the cemetery that used to be here?
If you get close to that device,
that's going on in a circle,
it'll let us know that you're there.
[beeping]
-I mean, it's picking up something. -[Shari] Right.
-[Jason] Like, towards the doorway. -[Shari] Right.
Whatever it is, seems to be getting closer.
-[beeping continues] -Yeah, I mean, it's picking it up.
[Shari] Oh, my God!
[Dustin] I think the knocking came from across the hall there.
[Sam] Sam and Dustin entering room 31.
[Sam] Is anybody in here?
[Dustin] Maybe, someone who is buried on this property?
[Sam] One knock for yes? Two knocks for no?
Knock once if you lived in this house.
-[knock] -That's one.
You lived in this house. Are you Mr. Sayre?
Were you married to Mr. Sayre?
-[knock] -Yup.
If your name was Mary Evelyn, could you knock once?
If your name was Mary Bradford, could you knock once?
-[knock] -[Sam] Yup.
Mary Bradford, that's the one Dave and I were talking to.
'Cause I was calling her Mary the second and I don't think she likes that.
Mary, do you still love this house?
[two knocks]
[together] No.
Wow.
Can you tell us why you don't love this house, Mary?
Mary, if you're still here with us,
we'd like to know, was Robert Sayre a good husband and father?
[Sam] One knock for yes. Two knocks for no.
-[single knock] -[Dustin] Yup.
-That's one. -That's one.
[Dustin] Thank you so much, Mary, we appreciate it.
The main reason we were asked to come here was to find out...
Is the Sayre house still a safe place?
[single knock]
Just one. That's a yes.
I mean, that's the big question,
that's what we needed to know.
[Dustin] Mary, are you still here with us?
-Maybe she's gone. -She might just be gone, yeah.
[eerie music playing]
[Jason] Maybe make any of these pieces of equipment go off a little more.
Just by getting closer to them.
-[device vibrating] -[Jason] All right.
-That's happening on cue. -[Shari] Right.
[Jason] Only when we're asking questions.
There's the other device on the table.
It's lit up blue.
By going to one side, it'll light up green.
And on the other side, it'll light up red.
[Shari] So, when we ask you questions,
if the answer is yes, you're going to go to the green side.
And if the answer is no, you'll light up the red side.
Again, is there anyone here with us
who was buried in the cemetery on this property in the 1700s?
-[Shari] If so, can-- -[device beeping]
-[Jason] Oh. -No? Okay.
-[Jason] That's the first time it lit up. -Yeah.
[Jason] Is anyone here from the Sayre family?
[Shari] Francis Rodolphus? Is that you?
Are you still playing in this room?
We know that you might be afraid of us.
Because nobody's ever been in here before asking you questions.
Please do not be afraid.
If it's somebody who's not one of the Sayre's children,
would you be willing to come and talk with us?
-[device beeps] -[Shari] Oh.
[Shari] Green for yes. Thank you.
[Jason] That was-- That was dead on.
-[Shari] Yeah. -Right when I asked the question. Boom.
Yeah.
Is your name Robert Sayre?
-[device beeps] -[together] Oh.
-[Jason] Okay. -Thank you.
So, Robert, you're here with us?
Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again?
[deep male voice] Yeah.
[Shari gasps]
-You-- You heard that? -[Shari] I heard that!
[Shari] Go harder!
[Jason] Holy [bleep]
If I had hair, it would all be standing up right now.
[Shari chuckles]
So, first time, initially asked if it was Robert Sayre.
[Shari] And it went to green.
[Jason] And then we're asking again...
[Shari] And it's like, "Yeah."
Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again?
-[deep male voice] Yeah. -[Shari gasps]
-You-- You heard that? -[Shari] I heard that!
-Ask away. I mean... -[Shari] Okay.
So, Robert,
we definitely heard you that time and thank you so much.
Robert, did you harm anybody in your family?
-[device beeps] -[Shari] No?
Thank you.
That's why we're here. We're just trying to get your story straight.
Is there anything that you'd like to tell anybody?
Robert, are you still here?
[Jason] Robert?
[Steve on radio] Hey guys, I think we got the answers we came for.
-So, let's wrap and go through our footage. -Copy that.
The activity that many people have experienced here,
I think that we've been able to document and back up.
Now, we just need to start going through all the stuff,
finding some answers to help Sarah out
and everybody else here at the Sayre Mansion, to the best of our abilities.
This is a case where I think we're going to help the client,
mostly, through our research.
Once we wrap our heads around all of the data,
we may have an answer.
[car door closes]
[Steve] Looking forward to sitting down with Sarah.
I'm excited to let her know about the history.
Well, until we tell her about the whole burial plot.
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting.
Well, Sarah, thanks for entrusting us to see what was going on here.
Thank you for being here.
And you told us about the claims.
People seeing shadow type figures,
hearing voices, laying in the bed,
and feeling a presence beside you.
We were able to have a bunch of experiences.
So, I'd like to play some of those. Get your take on it.
Okay.
Dave and Dustin, two of our investigators, they were down in the wine cellar,
and there was this weird whistle
that seemed to happen while they were down there.
Let's take a listen to it.
[Dave] Similar to what I heard before.
[whistling]
I definitely heard that.
[Dustin] What was that?
Similar to what I heard before.
[whistling]
J and I were investigating upstairs,
and it was, you know, directly responding to the questions.
You can actually take a listen.
-Oh, this is right by 32. -Yeah. I think so.
-[Jason on tape] Let us know you're here, like this -[knock]
[knock]
[inhales deeply] Wow.
It's just getting direct communication back and forth.
That's interesting.
[Jason] If somebody's here, can you knock?
-Let us know you're here. Like this. -[knock]
[faint knock]
That was a knock, Steve.
Sometimes, it's the only way that they're able to do that back and forth.
Dustin and Samantha, my daughter, headed upstairs.
And, they got direct responses, as well.
"Give us a knock once for yes, twice for no."
[Sam] If your name is Mary Bradford, could you knock once?
-[knock] -Wow.
And you see how quick those happen. Boom-boom.
This just went on and on, listen to this as well.
[Sam] Mary, do you still love this house?
-[double knock] -Oh my God.
[Sam and Dustin] No.
[Jason] Now, when you hear that,
you might take it as like, "Why doesn't she love this house?"
It wasn't the house that was technically built for her.
-I mean, she's coming in as the second wife. -[Sarah] Mmm-hmm.
But you've also got to consider it's changed a lot.
-Yeah. -If she's still here.
Shari, one of the investigators and myself,
we were downstairs in the conference room.
Just take a listen to this voice.
[Jason] Robert, if that's yo can you go near one of the devices again?
[device beeping]
-[device beeping] -[male voice] Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
-Is he saying, "Yeah"? -Yeah, it's exactly what we heard.
Wow.
Robert, if that's you, can you go near one of the devices again?
[device beeping]
-[device beeping] -[male voice] Yeah.
[Shari gasps]
I mean, they're really interesting, I have to be honest,
Yikes, okay.
We had Samantha and Shari stay in the rooms 11 and 32.
Where you had people lying on the beds and feeling people laying beside them.
-Wow. -Shari heard some noises,
but besides that, they really didn't have anything happen.
I know when we first got here, you had told us that
Robert Sayre seemed a little disconnected from family.
-[Sarah] Mmm-hmm. -But what we discovered
was somebody who was the family man,
no record of foul play, at all.
[Shari] Robert, did you harm anybody in your family?
-[device beeping] -[Shari] No?
Okay.
So, this paints a much different picture of Robert Sayre.
That could change the experience from something scary
to "Oh, maybe, he should be here with us."
-Yeah. -[Jason] But we did find out
that where the house is built now, used to be an actual burial plot.
-What was an old cemetery. -Oh, my gosh, really?
Yeah. 100 percent, yeah.
I did not know that. Wow.
But everything we caught
seems to come back to Robert Sayre or his wives.
Could it be one of the Sayre's children?
Yeah, but most of them passed when they were young. Really young.
That's very interesting.
It's actually awesome.
You know, to think about it, it's a living history.
[Sarah] Yeah.
It doesn't sound like you captured anything that wants to do harm or anything.
When you're able to make direct communication and they respond,
that's the sign of an intelligent type spirit.
So, if something intelligent,
a lot of times, you can just tell it,
"Hey, you know, I don't feel comfortable with this. Please leave me alone."
And most of the time, they'll respect that.
Right.
I have no problem doing that.
I mean, hopefully, the things that we've shown you
takes away some of that fear and just empowers you
but if you need anything, we're only a call away
and we can be here as quickly as you need. So...
-Awesome. -[Jason] Thank you so much for having us out.
Thank you guys. Thank you so much.
-Sarah, this was great. Thank you. -[Sarah] Thank you.
I do feel better
knowing that TAPS confirmed what we've all been experiencing.
Sounds like if we want these spirits to leave us alone, that we can just simply ask.
And, I'm not concerned that my guests will feel unsafe.
Sarah seemed happy with the evidence we caught.
But, it spooked her out.
-It did, but... -We had to be honest.
[Steve] We have to be honest.
And, knowing what Robert Sayre was like,
I think that's gonna help her.
And just having Dustin and Samantha out there was a big plus, as well.
-Oh, yeah. -Great job, brother.
On to the next, man.