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Can you see?
The bones of a saint
are in here.
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Oh, I heard that.
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That was as soon as
we brought this out.
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[narrator]
A 19th century mansion
with a religious past...
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It was a rectory,
so all the priests lived here.
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[narrator] has TAPS enlisting
a family member...
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My son, Austin,
this is going to be
your first case.
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I'll go first.
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[bleep]
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[narrator] ...to unlock
chilling secrets.
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There's a hidden room
that they've never been into.
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There's a hidden room
that they've never been into.
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[Austin] It felt like
I just got touched.
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Oh, wow.
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What the hell is that?
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Holy [bleep].
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It was just a whisper,
like somebody is kneeling down
and praying.
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Whoa.
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So, Ogdensburg, New York, man.
The Claire house.
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If you're thinking
of a haunted mansion,
it's this house.
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If you're thinking
of a haunted mansion,
it's this house.
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Yeah.
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[narrator]
TAPS is in Ogdensburg,
New York,
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to investigate
the Claire house,
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which was built in the 1880s,
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as a residence for the priest
from a neighboring cathedral
that has since burned down.
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Dustin, always great
having you here, man.
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Thank you, sir.
Always a pleasure, brother.
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And my son, Austin,
this is going to be
your first case joining us.
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Yeah, I'm excited.
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-I remember when
Austin was this.
-Yeah.
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-Now he's... and this.
-Yeah, crazy.
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Now, Hal and Rachel Kench,
they own the Claire house.
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Now, Hal and Rachel Kench,
they own the Claire house.
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They bought it in 2019.
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Yeah, I know that they've been
doing some renovations.
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With that,
they've been experiencing
all this crazy activity
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and not just them.
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They have two teenage boys
who have experienced
a bunch of crazy things.
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They're scared.
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Yeah, you just don't want
your children to be scared
going home.
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Right. I agree.
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They're seeing the apparition
of a priest.
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The apparition of
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a woman that looks skeletal.
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Skeletal.
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There is also claims
of seeing an apparition
of a little girl.
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-A lot of different
sound phenomena.
-Yeah.
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-A lot of different
sound phenomena.
-Yeah.
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I'm hoping that we can
help this family out.
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There's no book on what to do
when you buy a haunted house.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Wow, this is it.
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Wow.
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That's a good sized house.
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-Yeah, it is.
-Yeah.
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[narrator] TAPS case.
Claire house.
Ogdensburg, New York.
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-Well, hey. Thanks for
having us out.
-Thanks for coming.
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Hi, so nice to meet you.
Thanks for coming out.
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-Harry.
-What's up?
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-Caleb.
-Hey.
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-Wow, what a beautiful house.
-Thank you.
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-And you all
took ownership 2019.
-Yep, correct.
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What's some of the history
of the actual house?
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[Hal] It was built in 1884.
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It was originally the rectory
for the cathedral next door.
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So all the priests lived here.
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Then that church
burned in '47.
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Then that church
burned in '47.
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[narrator]
St. Mary's Cathedral
was destroyed
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but miraculously,
the rectory survived
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and remained home
to several priests
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including Bishop Joseph Conroy
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who had overseen
the rectory's construction.
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He lived there for 37 years.
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Around 1960, all priests
living at the rectory
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were relocated
to a nearby residence
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built at the new
cathedral's location.
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Then the rectory
became a residence
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for the grey nuns
of the sacred heart.
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In 2005, the nuns moved away
and the rectory became
a privately-owned home.
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In 2005, the nuns moved away
and the rectory became
a privately-owned home.
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It was not maintained
and fell into disrepair.
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In 2019, the former rectory
and surrounding land
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was purchased
by the Kench family.
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The minute we drove past,
I was like, that's our house.
We need to buy it.
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-So you just felt
drawn to it?
-100%.
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But then, when you
got the house,
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you felt like you're just
not welcomed here?
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-Correct.
-Okay.
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-And you bought this
as a second home, right?
-Yep.
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Once Harry graduates
from high school,
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-we're going to live up here
full-time.
-Okay.
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And if this stuff
continues to be
as frightening as it is,
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And if this stuff
continues to be
as frightening as it is,
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we have to sell this house.
Like, I can't live here.
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-Gotcha.
-Okay.
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I mean,
with all this renovation,
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what have you come across
in this house?
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A lot of hidden doors.
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-We actually have
a hidden room.
-Oh, wow.
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[Rachel] If you're
on the outside of what looks
like a second floor, right?
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There's two windows
but we can't find
a way to get into it.
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-Nobody's been in there.
-[Hal] We've never gone in.
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-Are you okay if we try to...
-Absolutely, yeah.
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Do you know
if anybody has ever
passed away in the home?
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We don't know about
passing away here.
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But underneath the cathedral,
a couple of the bishops
were buried.
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But underneath the cathedral,
a couple of the bishops
were buried.
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Then there was also a family
and their last name
was Gardner.
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For some reason,
they were also
buried in the crypt.
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But when the cathedral burned
in 1947,
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they moved the bodies
of the priests and the bishops
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to the crypt
at the new St. Mary's.
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But allegedly, they never
took out the Gardner family.
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Do you know anything
about the Gardners?
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My thought was maybe they give
a lot of money to the church.
I don't know, though.
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So what kind of things
have you guys
been experiencing?
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It was late at night,
everybody else was asleep
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and I was walking
down the first floor.
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and I was walking
down the first floor.
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And I see in the doorway
of the dining room,
this big shadowy figure.
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And a funny hat.
And then he just fades away.
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-Did it scare you?
-I was horrified.
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Okay, all right.
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[narrator]
Caleb has also encountered
a terrifying apparition
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in his second floor bedroom.
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I was trying to fall asleep
and I just got
this distinct feeling
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I was, like, being watched.
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So I looked over,
and in the corner of my room,
there's this skeletal figure
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of a woman wearing, like,
a black dress.
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of a woman wearing, like,
a black dress.
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Floating, almost,
towards my bed,
and I was paralyzed.
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He doesn't sleep
in that room anymore.
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Wow. Okay.
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Okay. Have you seen
anything else
on the second floor?
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Oh, yeah.
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I was in my room
and my doorknob was jingling.
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So I step outside my door
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and I kind of do
a double take,
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because behind the corner
of the stairs,
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I see this little girl
looking right at me.
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And she was gone.
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[narrator] Harry is not
the only person
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[narrator] Harry is not
the only person
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to see the little girl
on the second floor.
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Our son, who at the time
had just turned
five years old,
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came downstairs
and he said, mom,
where'd that little girl go?
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What little girl?
Because there's no other
children here.
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And he's like,
the little girl with a guy.
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And my uncle had heard him
and he was like,
where did you see them?
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So he brought us up
into the bishop's room.
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And he said,
"She just kept saying
help me, help me."
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[narrator] In the attic
and throughout the house,
footsteps
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[narrator] In the attic
and throughout the house,
footsteps
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and loud banging sounds
have been heard.
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So if you guys could say
one area of this house
is the most active,
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where would you say
that area would be?
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The basement.
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For the longest time,
Rachel wouldn't even
go in the basement.
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[narrator] In the basement,
ominous shadow figures
have been seen.
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It's also where the family
made their most
shocking discovery.
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So we found this stone
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and it's got crosses
all over it
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and it's got crosses
all over it
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and then it's kind of
charred-looking.
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-Charred?
-Yeah.
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Do you think maybe
it spent time at the cathedral
and caught fire?
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-Yeah.
-We think it was the actual
altar stone.
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An altar stone actually has
the bones of two saints in it.
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Have you guys ever
thought about removing it
from the property
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to see if the activity stops?
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-No.
-I feel like it belongs here.
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[Hal] I feel like
it needs to stay here.
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What are you hoping
that we're able to
accomplish here?
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Prove that we're not crazy.
Hopefully, provide
some answers.
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Could we do something
to make the energy feel
not as frightening?
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Could we do something
to make the energy feel
not as frightening?
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It's like, are we in denial?
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Am I being a horrible mother,
forcing my kids
to come stay in this house?
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Well, I think from here,
we're going to go start
figuring out how to set up.
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-Thank you, guys, so much.
-A lot of great information.
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Well, thank you, guys.
Talk to you soon, then.
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-Right.
-You got it.
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-All righty.
-Hey.
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-So, it went well.
-Yeah.
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There's been a lot
of creepy things that have
been going on in this house.
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The boys do not
want to be here.
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-One actually changed rooms.
-Really?
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Do you think the boys
are all seeing it
much more than the parents
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because of their age?
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That's very possible. We know
that children are more prone
to see things than adults.
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That's very possible. We know
that children are more prone
to see things than adults.
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And they found an altar stone
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and there's actually
the bones of a saint in it.
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What?
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-And it's still
in the basement.
-Oh, wow.
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So that could be
a great trigger object.
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That's cool.
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Also, there's a hidden room
that they've never been into.
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Ooh.
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-Somebody, like,
sealed it off? Why?
-Exactly. Why?
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-That's cool.
-We're going to find a way
to access it.
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Oh, love that.
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-I think we should start
getting going, here.
-Okay.
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Let's do it.
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Rachel and her husband, Hal,
have called us because
they are afraid
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Rachel and her husband, Hal,
have called us because
they are afraid
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and the kids won't even
stay in their rooms.
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I'm looking forward
to actually spending some time
investigating
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with my son, Austin.
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This is the first
investigation
he's ever been on
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but he's been raised
in a household
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where the paranormal
was the normal.
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Let's go forward a bit,
if we can.
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My dad's always taught me
not to ever be scared
of the paranormal
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and it's more of a mystery
and not a fear.
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I hope we find out
what's in there,
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giving the family
a little bit more comfort.
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All right, guys.
That's all angles, thank you.
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All right.
We have cameras everywhere.
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You know, the first floor.
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The parlor.
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We have the second floor hall.
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Harry and Caleb's rooms,
because they're
both terrified.
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Yeah.
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We have Bishop Conroy's room,
where they've seen him
and also a girl,
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we have one in the attic
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the basement.
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This looks awesome.
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Let's get the lights out
and get ready
to investigate.
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All right.
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All right.
234
00:09:46,166 --> 00:09:49,000
So Austin, Steve,
you guys take the attic.
235
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,166
Yeah.
236
00:09:50,166 --> 00:09:51,867
-Shari and I will start
in the basement.
-All right.
237
00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:54,333
-We'll hold down
the fort, here.
-Thanks, guys.
238
00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,533
They should be coming in there
in a moment.
239
00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,100
So here we go
to the attic, huh?
240
00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:14,533
Okay. Ooh.
241
00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:17,166
Austin and Steve
are in the attic,
242
00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:19,634
where the claims are
footsteps and bangs.
243
00:10:21,367 --> 00:10:23,100
-Let's go in there.
-Yeah.
244
00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:27,367
That's what I like to do first
is just wander around
and feel the space out.
245
00:10:27,367 --> 00:10:28,533
Yeah.
246
00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:30,000
Hello?
247
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,467
Hello?
248
00:10:32,967 --> 00:10:35,066
We know about the fire
that happened.
249
00:10:36,967 --> 00:10:39,100
There's a family
who lives in here, now.
250
00:10:40,867 --> 00:10:41,900
Whoa.
251
00:10:43,066 --> 00:10:45,100
Sounded like a door
and it kicked.
252
00:10:46,867 --> 00:10:47,900
Let's go.
253
00:10:49,367 --> 00:10:50,367
Hello?
254
00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:57,066
Jay and Shari
are in the basement
255
00:10:57,100 --> 00:11:00,000
where they hear footsteps
and also they've seen
a shadow figure.
256
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,100
where they hear footsteps
and also they've seen
a shadow figure.
257
00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,900
What are these?
258
00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:10,367
Were these here for storage
or confessional?
259
00:11:10,367 --> 00:11:11,634
Oh, right.
260
00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:16,066
Or somebody was
kept down here.
261
00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,433
Oh, my gosh.
262
00:11:20,467 --> 00:11:23,066
-It was just...
-Was it a voice?
263
00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:24,467
Yeah. It sounded like a girl.
264
00:11:24,467 --> 00:11:25,467
Oh my God.
265
00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:28,634
[Shari] Is there
a little girl in here?
266
00:11:29,867 --> 00:11:30,000
[Jason] Can you tell us
about your mom?
267
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,533
[Jason] Can you tell us
about your mom?
268
00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,467
Yeah, it's somebody
walking upstairs.
269
00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:43,233
Jay to Dave?
270
00:11:45,166 --> 00:11:46,166
Dave.
271
00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:49,800
Dave, is there anybody
on the first floor?
272
00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:52,900
There's nobody in there.
273
00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,367
100% somebody walking.
274
00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:02,166
Holy crap.
275
00:12:08,967 --> 00:12:11,634
-We both heard footsteps.
-Oh, yeah. Definitely.
276
00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:24,166
I say we follow
those footsteps
and head to the next floor.
277
00:12:24,233 --> 00:12:25,166
Yeah.
278
00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:29,533
We know there's a little girl.
279
00:12:31,166 --> 00:12:35,057
Maybe if that was you walking,
maybe you'll come talk to us.
280
00:12:35,057 --> 00:12:35,066
Maybe if that was you walking,
maybe you'll come talk to us.
281
00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,533
Are you trying
to get our attention?
282
00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,533
Can you make
some more noise for us?
283
00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:55,000
What's that?
284
00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800
This is a laser grid.
285
00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:00,867
So anything with mass
that moves in front of it,
286
00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,800
this will detect it.
287
00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:08,333
We heard about everybody
that lived up here.
288
00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:12,166
All of the nuns.
289
00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:15,166
Everybody knows
who Bishop Conroy is, right?
290
00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:17,533
Whoa.
291
00:13:17,533 --> 00:13:18,634
Wow.
292
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,166
Something walking.
293
00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:26,467
It was kind of just
all around us for a minute.
294
00:13:26,467 --> 00:13:30,066
I think whatever's up here
does not want to be
in the same room as us.
295
00:13:36,533 --> 00:13:38,467
Jay and Shari
are in the parlor room
296
00:13:38,467 --> 00:13:41,367
where the claims are
they hear footsteps.
297
00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,166
That's what we were
just hearing.
298
00:13:43,166 --> 00:13:44,367
Yeah.
299
00:13:44,433 --> 00:13:45,867
[Shari] We're in
the dining room.
300
00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:50,367
The son, Harry, thought
that he saw a man that looked
like Bishop Conroy.
301
00:13:51,867 --> 00:13:56,734
We were told that
there was a gentleman
that walks around this house.
302
00:13:56,734 --> 00:14:01,433
If the bishop is here,
why is there a room upstairs
that was closed off?
303
00:14:03,734 --> 00:14:05,057
Did something happen
in that room?
304
00:14:05,057 --> 00:14:05,433
Did something happen
in that room?
305
00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:11,467
What the hell was that?
306
00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:13,233
That literally looked like
somebody moved by me.
307
00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,166
[bleep]
308
00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:18,900
[Shari] Are there any priests
with us who once lived here
when it was a rectory?
309
00:14:21,166 --> 00:14:22,266
Hello?
310
00:14:23,734 --> 00:14:26,900
That camera's right on us.
I want to check that out.
311
00:14:28,734 --> 00:14:29,900
Jay to TAPS.
312
00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,634
Shari and I want to check out
the security cameras.
313
00:14:34,867 --> 00:14:35,057
So Tango, why don't
you and Steve
head to the basement.
314
00:14:35,057 --> 00:14:38,166
So Tango, why don't
you and Steve
head to the basement.
315
00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:39,600
Copy that.
316
00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,333
Austin and Dustin,
you two take the second floor.
317
00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:44,233
Ten four.
318
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,634
[Austin] I feel like my dad
doing this.
319
00:14:49,734 --> 00:14:51,967
[Dustin] But you're younger
and you have hair.
320
00:14:51,967 --> 00:14:53,734
[Austin] Yeah, I don't pop
whenever I move.
321
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,800
[laughs]
322
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,057
This is Dustin and Austin.
323
00:15:05,057 --> 00:15:05,166
This is Dustin and Austin.
324
00:15:05,233 --> 00:15:07,266
The second floor
of the Claire house.
325
00:15:07,266 --> 00:15:09,100
This is Caleb's room.
326
00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:11,533
-He won't sleep in this room.
-Yeah.
327
00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:16,467
Caleb says he saw
the skeletal woman.
328
00:15:16,533 --> 00:15:19,166
Is there a woman
that looks very thin here?
329
00:15:22,166 --> 00:15:24,800
I'm 18. I'm almost
the same age as Caleb.
330
00:15:26,066 --> 00:15:28,533
Do younger people
have an easier time
seeing you?
331
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,333
Is there a woman
in a dress here?
332
00:15:33,734 --> 00:15:35,057
This room's pretty quiet.
You want to go check out
somewhere else?
333
00:15:35,057 --> 00:15:36,533
This room's pretty quiet.
You want to go check out
somewhere else?
334
00:15:36,634 --> 00:15:37,634
Yeah.
335
00:15:37,634 --> 00:15:40,266
I've been wanting
to investigate
the bishop room.
336
00:15:40,266 --> 00:15:41,467
All right. The bishop's room.
337
00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:51,166
Claims of seeing apparitions
of both a child
and the bishop.
338
00:15:53,367 --> 00:15:54,900
Hello?
339
00:15:56,734 --> 00:16:01,734
If you're here, could you
maybe tap one of us
on the hand or the shoulder?
340
00:16:01,734 --> 00:16:04,634
We'd really appreciate
if you can
make yourself known.
341
00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:11,634
You don't have to be
scared of us.
342
00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:16,100
Both the bishop
and the little girl
would have had to be...
343
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:18,367
-You okay?
-Yeah, it's cold.
344
00:16:18,367 --> 00:16:20,000
I'm getting, like, the chills.
345
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,266
Oh, wow.
346
00:16:21,266 --> 00:16:22,800
So maybe she's close by.
347
00:16:25,367 --> 00:16:27,734
It felt like I just
got touched on the arm.
348
00:16:27,734 --> 00:16:29,066
That's crazy.
349
00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:37,634
Steve and Tango.
We're in the basement.
350
00:16:37,734 --> 00:16:39,800
This is where they've
seen a shadow figure.
351
00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:43,166
Is anyone here
from the Gardner family?
352
00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:49,333
Heard that you were left
on the property after
the cathedral burned down.
353
00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:53,333
That's where that
altar stone is.
354
00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:55,734
Okay. I'm going to grab it.
355
00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:58,800
Just be very careful.
Two hands, take your time.
356
00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,467
Be careful.
357
00:17:00,467 --> 00:17:01,634
Look at this..
358
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,533
That must be
where they put the bones.
359
00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:05,057
I wonder if that's
what's causing the unrest.
360
00:17:05,057 --> 00:17:07,533
I wonder if that's
what's causing the unrest.
361
00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:11,066
Just that. Like,
it needs to be
in a proper place.
362
00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:12,433
Do you know what we found?
363
00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:16,634
An altar stone
and the bones of a saint
are in here.
364
00:17:18,734 --> 00:17:20,634
The family here,
they want to do
the right thing.
365
00:17:22,634 --> 00:17:23,800
What should they do?
366
00:17:32,634 --> 00:17:33,800
I heard that.
367
00:17:35,734 --> 00:17:36,967
Sounds like a voice, Dave.
368
00:17:36,967 --> 00:17:38,734
I agree.
369
00:17:38,734 --> 00:17:40,900
It was as soon as we
brought this out.
370
00:17:41,734 --> 00:17:42,800
God have mercy.
371
00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:47,634
Hello?
372
00:17:50,367 --> 00:17:51,433
We heard you.
373
00:17:52,266 --> 00:17:54,433
Can you see
what I'm holding, here?
374
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,233
We're not going to take it,
375
00:17:57,233 --> 00:18:00,166
we just want to know
what the family
should do with it.
376
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,333
If the little girl is here,
can you tell us your name?
377
00:18:07,266 --> 00:18:08,266
Did you touch me?
378
00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:11,734
You can do it again.
379
00:18:11,734 --> 00:18:14,196
Would you like to sit up
on the bed next to Austin,
there?
380
00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:14,700
Would you like to sit up
on the bed next to Austin,
there?
381
00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:24,634
Hey, guys. I think it's time
to wrap right now.
382
00:18:24,634 --> 00:18:26,100
Copy that.
383
00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:27,266
I don't like this bed.
384
00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,367
I've never experienced that
in my life.
385
00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:33,900
Ceremonial
first investigation.
386
00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:36,800
No-look high five
in three, two and one.
387
00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:40,166
-We're out.
-Well done, sir.
388
00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:42,800
-Hey, guys.
-Hey.
389
00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,196
So Austin, how was your
first night investigating?
390
00:18:44,196 --> 00:18:44,800
So Austin, how was your
first night investigating?
391
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,100
-Yeah.
-I felt something touch me.
392
00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,000
Ooh.
393
00:18:48,066 --> 00:18:49,100
It's crazy.
I want to know why.
394
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,433
I don't know
if we'll ever know why.
395
00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:51,900
-Yeah.
-But at least we know more.
396
00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:55,233
-Absolutely.
-Tomorrow, I'll have a meeting
with the local historian.
397
00:18:55,233 --> 00:18:56,634
And Dustin,
if you want to come with me?
398
00:18:56,634 --> 00:18:58,100
Yeah, that'd be great.
Of course.
399
00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,800
-And I was able to get a lift.
-Oh, yeah.
400
00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:03,867
So we can get up to
the hidden room.
401
00:19:03,867 --> 00:19:04,800
That's a great idea.
402
00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:06,266
And they did say
that they believe
403
00:19:06,266 --> 00:19:09,467
the Gardner family
is still buried
on the grounds.
404
00:19:09,467 --> 00:19:12,100
Maybe we should see about
getting some cadaver dogs
out here
405
00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:14,100
and just seeing
if there's any truth
behind that.
406
00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:14,196
Yeah.
407
00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:15,100
Yeah.
408
00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:16,433
Let's get out of here
and get started early.
409
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,000
-All right, let's do it.
-Good job, guys.
410
00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:30,233
Take a listen to this.
411
00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:31,734
This is when Shari and I
were in the basement
412
00:19:31,734 --> 00:19:34,100
I say, "Can you tell us
about your mom?"
413
00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,266
And there's this quick voice
414
00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:37,233
that I couldn't
make out till now.
415
00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:39,700
While Austin and I review
last night's evidence...
416
00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:42,634
[high-pitched voice]
417
00:19:43,634 --> 00:19:44,196
Yeah, that sounds like
a little girl.
418
00:19:44,196 --> 00:19:44,800
Yeah, that sounds like
a little girl.
419
00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:45,734
It does.
420
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,233
[vehicle beeping]
421
00:19:48,533 --> 00:19:50,233
Tango and Steve
bring in the lift
422
00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:52,433
needed to access
the hidden room tonight.
423
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,333
And Shari and Dustin
424
00:19:55,367 --> 00:19:57,533
head to the Ogdensburg
Public Library
425
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,233
to meet local historian,
Julie Madlin.
426
00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:01,233
Hi. Shari.
427
00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:02,533
Hi. Julie.
428
00:20:02,533 --> 00:20:03,634
Hi, Julie, I'm Dustin.
429
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:04,734
-Hi.
-[Dustin] Pleased to meet you.
430
00:20:04,734 --> 00:20:06,233
[Shari] Now,
with the Claire House,
431
00:20:06,266 --> 00:20:08,100
could you tell us about
the history of that property?
432
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,333
Yes.
433
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,734
[Julie] Around 1835,
434
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,196
Father Foley built
a small stone church
435
00:20:14,196 --> 00:20:14,734
Father Foley built
a small stone church
436
00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:17,100
near where Claire House
is today,
437
00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:20,800
and he actually
died in his home,
438
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,867
which was also
on that property.
439
00:20:22,867 --> 00:20:23,800
Okay.
440
00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:26,000
Then Father Mackey
came to Ogdensburg.
441
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,433
Um, he oversaw
the construction
442
00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,367
of St. Mary's Cathedral.
443
00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:32,367
And does he pass away
on the property as well,
444
00:20:32,367 --> 00:20:33,900
-do we know, Father Mackey?
-Yes.
445
00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,100
[Dustin] Oh, okay.
446
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,634
[Julie] They were buried
in the crypt at the cathedral.
447
00:20:37,634 --> 00:20:41,233
Also buried at the crypt at
the old St. Mary's Cathedral
448
00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:42,900
-were the Gardner family.
-[Dustin] Right.
449
00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:44,196
[Julie] They were
a wealthy family.
450
00:20:44,196 --> 00:20:44,867
[Julie] They were
a wealthy family.
451
00:20:44,867 --> 00:20:47,100
They purchased the land
for the church.
452
00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:48,367
[Dustin] Oh, okay.
453
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,266
-[Shari] That explains
why they're buried there.
-[Julie] Yes.
454
00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:51,900
[Dustin] And is it correct
that the Gardners
455
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,100
were not moved
to the new cathedral
456
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,734
with Father Mackey
and Foley?
457
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,100
I did not find documents that
tell me that they were moved.
458
00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,634
-[Shari] Okay.
-[Julie] Yeah.
459
00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:03,467
Do you know of any other
deaths on the property?
460
00:21:03,467 --> 00:21:06,266
Matthew Adams and his wife,
461
00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:08,233
Irene Amo Adams,
462
00:21:08,233 --> 00:21:09,533
took care of the property.
463
00:21:09,533 --> 00:21:11,000
They had eight children.
464
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,233
-And they would have
lived on the property as well?
-Yes.
465
00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:14,196
And Mrs. Adams
at the age of 32
466
00:21:14,196 --> 00:21:17,266
And Mrs. Adams
at the age of 32
467
00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:18,367
died of pneumonia.
468
00:21:18,367 --> 00:21:19,800
[Shari] Oh, my God.
469
00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:21,634
-[Dustin] Poor kids.
-[Julie] Basically,
tore the family apart.
470
00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:22,634
[Shari] Oh, my gosh.
471
00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:24,634
Um, and this was in 1935.
472
00:21:24,634 --> 00:21:25,533
Oh, wow!
473
00:21:25,533 --> 00:21:27,800
So, did any children
die on the property?
474
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,333
No children that I'm aware of,
475
00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:30,800
but there's always
the possibility,
476
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,533
and there also was a small
parochial school on that site
477
00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:36,233
built around 1862.
478
00:21:36,233 --> 00:21:38,100
That's something to consider.
479
00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:39,233
[Shari] Absolutely.
480
00:21:39,233 --> 00:21:41,367
Well, thank you so much
for a lot of information.
481
00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:42,266
We really appreciate it.
482
00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:43,233
My pleasure.
483
00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,196
Good, boy! Good boy.
484
00:21:44,196 --> 00:21:45,266
Good, boy! Good boy.
485
00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:49,533
Drop!
486
00:21:49,533 --> 00:21:50,634
Hi, Nina.
487
00:21:50,634 --> 00:21:51,734
-[Nina] Hi!
-Hi!
488
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,634
-Jason Hawes, how are ya?
-Nice to meet you.
489
00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:54,467
Beautiful dog.
490
00:21:54,467 --> 00:21:55,533
[Nina] This is Kevlar.
491
00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:56,800
-Kevlar!
-Cool.
492
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,533
So, there's local legend
493
00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:00,533
that there was
a family buried here.
494
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000
Do you have a defined
area you want me to search?
495
00:22:03,066 --> 00:22:04,467
[Jason] Pretty much
this field.
496
00:22:04,467 --> 00:22:07,367
There used to be
a cathedral up here, so,
497
00:22:07,367 --> 00:22:09,367
we're just trying to see
if there's any truth to this.
498
00:22:09,367 --> 00:22:10,367
Okay.
499
00:22:10,367 --> 00:22:11,533
You've had a lot
of great results
500
00:22:11,533 --> 00:22:12,800
-with Kevlar in the past?
-Yeah.
501
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,196
-All right, well, let's do it.
-Yeah. It's exciting.
502
00:22:14,196 --> 00:22:15,266
-All right, well, let's do it.
-Yeah. It's exciting.
503
00:22:15,266 --> 00:22:16,900
[Nina] Come here. Sit.
504
00:22:18,166 --> 00:22:20,000
[Jason] So, what kind
of signal are we looking for?
505
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,800
[Nina] When Kev
finds something,
506
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,000
he will do really
intense sniffing.
507
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,166
[Jason] Oh, okay. All right.
508
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,900
Locking on to something.
509
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Do they have different
signals for an animal
510
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,100
or if it's a human?
511
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,100
He is only trained
to locate human remains.
512
00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:35,166
Gotcha.
513
00:22:39,734 --> 00:22:40,900
[Jason] How'd he go?
514
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,367
[Nina] There
is a couple spots
where he slowed down
515
00:22:42,367 --> 00:22:44,000
and returned to
a couple of times,
516
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,196
but I would say that it's
a little bit inconclusive.
517
00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:46,333
but I would say that it's
a little bit inconclusive.
518
00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:47,467
With a dog like this,
519
00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:50,333
is there an idea of how deep
it can sense down to?
520
00:22:50,367 --> 00:22:52,533
We know that they
can find skeletal remains
521
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,100
several feet underground.
522
00:22:54,166 --> 00:22:54,900
Oh, okay.
523
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:56,634
But two areas
of interest at least.
524
00:22:56,634 --> 00:22:57,800
Yes.
525
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,233
I think it'll help them
to know it isn't definitive.
526
00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:01,367
-Right.
-Thank you very much.
527
00:23:01,367 --> 00:23:02,467
You're very welcome.
528
00:23:02,467 --> 00:23:03,900
[Jason] You have a great
day now. This was great.
529
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,100
-Bye, Kevlar!
-Bye, Kev.
530
00:23:09,734 --> 00:23:10,634
[Jason] Hey.
531
00:23:10,634 --> 00:23:12,000
-'Sup, boss.
-What's up, guys.
532
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,800
[Jason] Hey, guys.
533
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,196
So, anything
on the Gardner family?
534
00:23:14,196 --> 00:23:14,734
So, anything
on the Gardner family?
535
00:23:14,734 --> 00:23:15,900
[Shari] Yes.
536
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,100
They were the original owners
who gave up this land.
537
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:19,367
-Oh!
-Oh, wow!
538
00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:20,734
So, they were
buried in the crypt,
539
00:23:20,734 --> 00:23:22,800
but nobody knows if they
were actually removed
from the crypt.
540
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:24,900
Could be where that dog
did some slight hits.
541
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,900
That's true.
542
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,467
So, Father Foley
died in 1839
543
00:23:28,467 --> 00:23:30,867
-in his home that was
behind the church.
-Mmm-hmm.
544
00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:32,467
[Shari] And that's
no longer there.
545
00:23:32,467 --> 00:23:34,634
So, that's one confirmed
death on the property.
546
00:23:34,634 --> 00:23:35,900
Okay.
547
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,100
And then Father James Mackey
built St. Mary's Cathedral,
548
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,100
and did pass away
on the property.
549
00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:41,100
-Okay.
-[Steve] Okay.
550
00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:43,467
Also, there was just
adjacent to this building,
551
00:23:43,467 --> 00:23:44,196
a caretaker's house.
552
00:23:44,196 --> 00:23:44,467
a caretaker's house.
553
00:23:44,467 --> 00:23:46,734
Unfortunately,
the caretaker's wife,
554
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,100
uh, Irene Amo Adams,
555
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,433
she passed away leaving
her eight children here...
556
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,634
-[Steve] Mmm.
-...uh, with just her husband.
557
00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:54,867
The Adams family then
moved off the property.
558
00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:56,467
[Steve] I wonder
if Irene Adams
559
00:23:56,467 --> 00:23:59,367
is the skeleton woman
looking for her children.
560
00:23:59,367 --> 00:24:01,000
You know, that is some emotion
561
00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:02,000
that we don't understand,
you know?
562
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,333
Yeah.
563
00:24:03,367 --> 00:24:05,266
So, I think there's some
good information here.
564
00:24:05,266 --> 00:24:06,634
-We got the lift in...
-[Steve] Mmm-hmm.
565
00:24:06,634 --> 00:24:09,233
...so, we're gonna be able
to try to access that hidden
room.
566
00:24:09,266 --> 00:24:10,233
[Steve] Yeah.
567
00:24:10,266 --> 00:24:11,734
Was there anything on that?
568
00:24:11,734 --> 00:24:14,100
She said that's where they put
all the bats from the house.
569
00:24:14,166 --> 00:24:14,196
All in that one room.
570
00:24:14,196 --> 00:24:15,100
All in that one room.
571
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,634
[all laughing]
572
00:24:16,634 --> 00:24:18,367
All right, let's get
into this hidden room.
573
00:24:18,367 --> 00:24:20,100
[Steve] Yeah,
let's get that lift going.
574
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,634
Good job, guys.
575
00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:32,634
[Jason] We now have
names of three people
who died on the property,
576
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:35,000
and could be behind
the activity experienced.
577
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,900
Father Foley and Mackey,
578
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,734
as well as the caretaker's
wife, Irene Adams,
579
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,100
whose sudden death left behind
eight devastated children.
580
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:44,196
We also learned about
a Catholic school
581
00:24:44,196 --> 00:24:45,100
We also learned about
a Catholic school
582
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,867
that once stood on this land
583
00:24:46,867 --> 00:24:50,467
that may have connection
to the little girl seen.
584
00:24:50,467 --> 00:24:51,900
All right, let's do this.
585
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,367
-See you guys.
-See ya. Bye.
586
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:54,533
Where do you wanna sit?
587
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,233
[Jason] We're gonna start
tonight's investigation
588
00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,100
with Austin and Dustin
at the monitors
589
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,533
watching for any activity.
590
00:25:00,467 --> 00:25:01,367
[Jason] Woo-hoo!
591
00:25:01,367 --> 00:25:03,100
[Steve] Oh, this makes
me nervous, Jay.
592
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,734
[Jason] Steve will help me
break into that secret
hidden room
593
00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,100
that can only be accessed
through this high window,
594
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,000
and Tango and Shari will
investigate the second floor.
595
00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:14,196
[Dave] This is Dave and Shari.
We're i on the second floor.
596
00:25:14,196 --> 00:25:14,433
[Dave] This is Dave and Shari.
We're i on the second floor.
597
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:17,100
They've seen a little girl
in multiple areas.
598
00:25:17,166 --> 00:25:19,467
Possibly Bishop Conroy
599
00:25:19,467 --> 00:25:22,333
and also the skeletal woman.
600
00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:23,800
[Shari] I'm gonna
put this here,
601
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,000
-so, all you have to do is
come close to this antenna...
-[antenna beeping]
602
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,734
[Shari] ...then those lights
will come on,
603
00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:30,266
-and then there's music.
-[antenna beeping]
604
00:25:30,266 --> 00:25:31,233
[Shari] Okay.
605
00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:34,000
Irene, have you remained
on the property?
606
00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:38,533
Are you the skeletal woman
that's been seen?
607
00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:42,333
Whether you mean to or not...
608
00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:44,196
...you're scaring the family
that lives here now.
609
00:25:44,196 --> 00:25:45,800
...you're scaring the family
that lives here now.
610
00:25:48,867 --> 00:25:50,734
[Shari] If someone is here,
611
00:25:50,734 --> 00:25:54,433
can you touch that piece
of equipment that's
on the ground?
612
00:25:56,367 --> 00:25:57,233
[Dave] Ooh.
613
00:25:57,367 --> 00:25:58,800
-[Antenna whistling]
-[Shari] Oh, my gosh.
614
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,634
[Steve] Okay,
everything's powered-up.
615
00:26:07,467 --> 00:26:08,800
[lift whirring]
616
00:26:10,233 --> 00:26:12,000
Wow!
617
00:26:12,066 --> 00:26:13,433
That's way higher
than I could go.
618
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,100
It's terrifying.
619
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,266
[Jason] All right.
620
00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:20,367
[Steve] Oh, God, Jay.
621
00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:22,233
[Jason] These windows
are nailed shut.
622
00:26:22,233 --> 00:26:23,333
[Steve] Wow.
623
00:26:24,734 --> 00:26:27,533
I've never seen this
on an investigation.
624
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,734
Very slow,
calculated moves, Jay.
625
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,100
[Jason] No matter
what happens...
626
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,233
...I love you like a brother.
627
00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:36,100
[Steve] Thank you,
I love you too.
628
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,166
[Jason] [bleep]!
629
00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:43,467
[Jason] I'm in.
630
00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:44,634
He's in.
631
00:26:45,467 --> 00:26:48,100
Oh, my heart.
God have mercy.
632
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,533
[Jason] I'm gonna
send you a video.
633
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,000
All right, so, this is
what we're up against.
634
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,800
[Steve] Whoa!
635
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,100
[Jason] This room's
taken serious beatings
636
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:57,967
throughout the years.
637
00:26:57,967 --> 00:26:59,000
[Steve] Wow.
638
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:02,333
[Jason] Look at the floor.
639
00:27:02,367 --> 00:27:04,100
There's debris everywhere.
640
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,333
The ceiling is shot.
641
00:27:05,367 --> 00:27:06,533
[Steve] Wow!
642
00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:08,363
[Jason] I'm gonna flip this
thing over so I can see.
643
00:27:08,363 --> 00:27:08,433
[Jason] I'm gonna flip this
thing over so I can see.
644
00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:12,433
We have a main line.
645
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,233
So, there's a toilet,
646
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:15,967
there's a sink,
647
00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:18,433
I'm looking at
old lead piping.
648
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,233
That is the original doorway.
649
00:27:21,233 --> 00:27:23,533
That's the small hole
in the door.
650
00:27:23,533 --> 00:27:26,467
[Steve] I mean, that could
have been used as a food pass.
651
00:27:26,467 --> 00:27:27,467
It really could have.
652
00:27:27,467 --> 00:27:29,233
Do you wanna head in
to figure out where
653
00:27:29,233 --> 00:27:31,333
the other side
of the wall is?
654
00:27:31,333 --> 00:27:32,634
That's a great idea.
655
00:27:32,634 --> 00:27:34,433
This is Steve
for Tango and Sheri.
656
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:35,900
Go for Tango and Sheri.
657
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,533
I'm just gonna run upstairs
658
00:27:37,533 --> 00:27:38,363
-to see where Jay is.
-Okay.
659
00:27:38,363 --> 00:27:39,900
-to see where Jay is.
-Okay.
660
00:27:41,166 --> 00:27:43,533
Jay, I'm at the area now.
661
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,166
I'm gonna tap on a pipe,
so tell me if you hear it.
662
00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:51,734
I don't hear it.
663
00:27:51,734 --> 00:27:53,166
Where the hell am I?
664
00:27:54,233 --> 00:27:59,333
So, do you see my flashlight
coming through any window?
665
00:27:59,367 --> 00:28:02,333
-I've got a green light.
-Yep, I see it.
666
00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:04,100
So, I'm directly
to your right.
667
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,734
And to the right
is a staircase.
668
00:28:05,734 --> 00:28:07,967
[Jason] I'm right
on the other side of that.
669
00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:08,363
-[Jason tapping]
-Yep.
670
00:28:08,363 --> 00:28:09,900
-[Jason tapping]
-Yep.
671
00:28:11,367 --> 00:28:14,000
Yep, that used to be
the access for here.
672
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,800
This staircase would have
just maybe came straight up.
673
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,433
That's weird.
674
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,800
All right, you
can head back out.
675
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,100
[Steve] Leaving
the house, guys.
676
00:28:21,166 --> 00:28:22,166
[Dave] Copy that.
677
00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,266
Is somebody here
678
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,233
that doesn't want me here?
679
00:28:27,233 --> 00:28:32,000
Was this a room that somebody
was put in to be kept here?
680
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,734
Or was this a room
that somebody would
681
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,734
put themselves in
to go into...
682
00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:38,363
...seclusion?
683
00:28:38,363 --> 00:28:39,433
...seclusion?
684
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:41,867
[Steve] It's just so weird
they would just seal it off.
685
00:28:41,867 --> 00:28:43,467
[Jason] Maybe there's
a reason.
686
00:28:43,467 --> 00:28:46,333
Maybe they wanted
to forget what happened here.
687
00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,533
Oh, hang on.
688
00:28:50,867 --> 00:28:53,333
-[crashing]
-[bleep]
689
00:28:53,367 --> 00:28:55,967
-[Steve] What happened?
-There was just a voice.
690
00:28:55,967 --> 00:28:57,333
It scared the [bleep]
out of me.
691
00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,800
That camera
can't come back up
692
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,533
because the crane's
blocking the signal.
693
00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,000
[Steve] Did you just
say something?
694
00:29:10,634 --> 00:29:13,266
There was just a weird,
like, just a huh.
695
00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:15,233
Wow.
696
00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:17,333
It sounded like it
was, like, right in my ear.
697
00:29:19,734 --> 00:29:23,266
Are there any nuns here
who used to live
in this rectory?
698
00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:30,634
Were there any children
that were kept here?
699
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,367
A little girl?
700
00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:36,433
Are you still here
on the property?
701
00:29:41,467 --> 00:29:45,634
Father Mackey, you know,
you built the cathedral
that once stood here.
702
00:29:46,533 --> 00:29:48,433
Do you remember when
the church burned down?
703
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:50,900
Nope.
704
00:29:52,967 --> 00:29:54,000
That was walking.
705
00:29:54,734 --> 00:29:56,533
That was 100% walking.
706
00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:58,533
Again.
707
00:29:59,967 --> 00:30:02,533
Can anybody tell us
what this room was used for?
708
00:30:07,367 --> 00:30:08,363
That was, Steve,
that was just a whisper.
709
00:30:08,363 --> 00:30:09,100
That was, Steve,
that was just a whisper.
710
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100
Wow.
711
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,166
Holy [bleep].
712
00:30:14,467 --> 00:30:16,000
Holy [bleep].
713
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,100
Literally it was, like,
if somebody's, like,
kneeling down and praying
714
00:30:18,166 --> 00:30:20,634
and they're just, like,
[indistinct]
715
00:30:20,634 --> 00:30:22,433
Maybe you're
hearing the residual
716
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,467
of, you know, somebody
repenting their sins
717
00:30:25,467 --> 00:30:26,734
-or something.
-Yeah.
718
00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,500
I think I heard you praying.
719
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,166
What were you praying about?
720
00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:38,734
I'm gonna have to head out
of here in a second.
721
00:30:44,533 --> 00:30:48,634
Irene, we are so sorry
that you passed away so young
722
00:30:48,634 --> 00:30:51,367
leaving behind eight children
and your husband.
723
00:30:52,533 --> 00:30:54,500
Are you still looking
for your family?
724
00:30:56,166 --> 00:30:57,367
All you have to do...
725
00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:01,066
...is come in front of this.
726
00:31:01,066 --> 00:31:02,433
[Shari] I just
heard something.
727
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,433
-What did you hear?
-Like a child going,
"Da, da, da."
728
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,000
Oh, my God.
729
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Hello?
730
00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:10,634
We think we might
have heard you.
731
00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:13,545
[Shari] Is there anybody here
that is willing to talk to us?
732
00:31:13,545 --> 00:31:15,367
[Shari] Is there anybody here
that is willing to talk to us?
733
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,100
All right. That
is a weird ass room.
734
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:27,433
Hey, how did that
eerie room go?
735
00:31:27,433 --> 00:31:31,000
It's one of the strangest
rooms that I've ever been to.
736
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,967
It definitely gave me
a bad feeling.
737
00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:35,166
-Really?
-I mean, at one point
there was, like, somebody
738
00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:37,100
sitting down and praying.
You know, like, [indistinct].
739
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,634
-It scared the hell out of me.
-Wow.
740
00:31:38,634 --> 00:31:41,266
On that note, Austin and me
should probably head in.
741
00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:42,533
-Yeah.
-Let's do it.
742
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,545
Steve for Dave.
743
00:31:43,545 --> 00:31:44,333
Steve for Dave.
744
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:45,533
Go for Dave.
745
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800
Jay and Austin
are heading upstairs
746
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,533
Why don't you and Dustin
check out the basement?
747
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,800
Sheri and I will keep an eye
on the monitors.
748
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,000
Copy that.
749
00:31:59,467 --> 00:32:01,333
-[Jason] You know what
these are for?
-[Austin] No.
750
00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,967
They're to ward off
evil spirits,
751
00:32:03,967 --> 00:32:06,100
-and it's no joke.
-Yes, sir.
752
00:32:13,634 --> 00:32:17,100
So this
is Bishop Conroy's room?
753
00:32:17,166 --> 00:32:21,000
Yeah. Claims of a little girl
apparition saying, "Help me."
754
00:32:21,734 --> 00:32:25,066
And people have seen
Bishop Conroy.
755
00:32:25,066 --> 00:32:27,100
This is also where I felt
something touch me.
756
00:32:29,734 --> 00:32:31,800
It felt like I just got
touched on the arm.
757
00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:33,900
Oh, yeah, jeez.
758
00:32:35,266 --> 00:32:36,900
St. Mary's Cathedral.
759
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,166
-Did you look at this book?
-No, I've never seen it.
760
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,266
So this is St. Mary's
grade school
761
00:32:42,266 --> 00:32:43,545
way back in 1877.
762
00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:44,333
way back in 1877.
763
00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:47,000
-Wasn't that the one that
was built on the property?
-Mmm-hmm.
764
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,367
It sounded like it was coming
from upstairs in the attic.
765
00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:55,100
All right.
766
00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:58,900
I'll go first.
I've lived a good life.
767
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:09,100
This is Dustin and Dave
and we are in the basement.
768
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,533
This is where they've seen
a shadow figure,
769
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:13,545
and where we got that voice.
770
00:33:13,545 --> 00:33:15,634
and where we got that voice.
771
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,800
-Ooh.
-I heard that.
772
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:26,533
We're gonna set up
a little toy here for you.
773
00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:30,100
And the idea is if you
touch it, it should light up.
774
00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:36,000
[Dave] Father Foley, you built
a small stone church.
775
00:33:36,867 --> 00:33:38,000
Are you here with us?
776
00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:43,545
Is there anybody here with us?
777
00:33:43,545 --> 00:33:43,734
Is there anybody here with us?
778
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,734
-[beeping]
-Wow.
779
00:33:50,967 --> 00:33:54,166
Austin and Jason,
the attic of Claire House,
780
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,900
claim some footsteps.
781
00:33:58,533 --> 00:33:59,900
What the hell was that?
782
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,634
[bleep] Was that a bat?
783
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,734
I didn't see anything.
I heard that though.
784
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:08,433
Austin, I'll use you as
a human shield.
785
00:34:08,433 --> 00:34:11,100
No, Dad, I don't know
if that was a bat.
786
00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:12,800
It's not funny. I'm...
787
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,545
-It's a little funny.
-...seriously terrified of it.
788
00:34:13,545 --> 00:34:14,533
-It's a little funny.
-...seriously terrified of it.
789
00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:20,266
Do you know if St. Mary's
grade school...
790
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,900
Were there any children
that were kept here?
791
00:34:36,867 --> 00:34:37,867
That was a click though.
792
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:39,533
Yeah, that sounded
like a girl.
793
00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:40,634
It almost sounded like...
794
00:34:42,066 --> 00:34:43,467
..."I see you."
795
00:34:43,467 --> 00:34:43,545
Oh, my God.
796
00:34:43,545 --> 00:34:44,533
Oh, my God.
797
00:34:50,066 --> 00:34:52,166
[Jason] Are there
any children here?
798
00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:53,500
I think we heard you.
799
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Do you like playing
with people in the house?
800
00:34:58,467 --> 00:35:01,166
We're super-friendly.
You don't have to be scared.
801
00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:04,166
I'm just not
hearing anything now.
802
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,583
If anyone is here with us,
can you tell us your name?
803
00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:17,800
If anyone is here with us,
can you tell us your name?
804
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,166
Is anybody here that would
like to communicate with us?
805
00:35:21,166 --> 00:35:22,967
Does anybody want
to say hello or hi,
806
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,700
or make a knocking sound?
807
00:35:25,367 --> 00:35:26,967
Let us know that
you're here, please.
808
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,734
[Jason] Hey, great night,
everybody.
809
00:35:32,734 --> 00:35:34,000
It's time to put
the lights on,
810
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,967
get wrapped up,
and start analyzing stuff
811
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,433
so we can come up
with some answers.
812
00:35:37,433 --> 00:35:39,000
Yep, we're leaving right now.
813
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,967
[Austin] The most memorable
moment at the Claire House
814
00:35:48,967 --> 00:35:50,734
was probably investigating
with my dad.
815
00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:53,233
The Hawes family
has been chasing ghosts
ever since I've been alive,
816
00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:54,967
so I wanna keep that
tradition going.
817
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,333
It's been a true pleasure
having my son Austin out here
818
00:35:59,333 --> 00:36:01,000
and I look forward
to having him
819
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,533
on many other investigations.
820
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,600
Hal and Rachel have
brought us in
821
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,066
because they wanted to know
that they're not crazy.
822
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,367
But we were able to document
some of the experiences
that they had,
823
00:36:12,367 --> 00:36:13,634
and now we've just got
to figure out
824
00:36:13,634 --> 00:36:15,000
the best way to help them.
825
00:36:24,533 --> 00:36:27,800
[Jason] I think we got
some answers doing
our investigation,
826
00:36:27,867 --> 00:36:30,233
but I also think
whatever's there
827
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:32,800
-gave us some answers.
-Oh, yeah.
828
00:36:32,867 --> 00:36:36,467
I'm really looking forward
to talking with Hal and Rachel
and their sons.
829
00:36:36,467 --> 00:36:39,266
-Hopefully this helps them
and doesn't make it worse.
-Mmm-hmm.
830
00:36:47,367 --> 00:36:49,333
-Thank you for having us out.
-Thank you for coming.
831
00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,433
We had every area
of this house
832
00:36:51,433 --> 00:36:54,233
completely covered from top
to bottom with surveillance
833
00:36:54,266 --> 00:36:56,066
and of course
all of our gadgetry.
834
00:36:56,066 --> 00:36:58,800
We actually even had
some cadaver dogs
835
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,700
-come to the house here
and see what they uncovered.
-What?
836
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:03,066
Well, because there
was a possibility
837
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,333
of the Gardner family
and others
838
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,867
still being buried
on the property.
839
00:37:06,867 --> 00:37:09,900
But it was inconclusive,
so there could be
remains on site.
840
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:11,166
I wasn't expecting that.
841
00:37:11,233 --> 00:37:12,900
We did do a lot of research
842
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,583
and did find two gentlemen
that did pass on the property.
843
00:37:16,583 --> 00:37:17,433
and did find two gentlemen
that did pass on the property.
844
00:37:17,433 --> 00:37:19,333
There was a Father Foley,
845
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,867
and also there
was a Father Mackey,
846
00:37:21,867 --> 00:37:25,233
-and he died
in the church's parsonage.
-[Rachel] Okay.
847
00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:27,166
There was an Irene Adams,
848
00:37:27,233 --> 00:37:28,900
the wife of the church
caretaker.
849
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,166
She was a mother of eight.
850
00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:33,800
She ended up dying
of pneumonia at the age of 32.
851
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,700
So we need to take that
into consideration.
852
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:39,066
Could she be the skeleton
woman seen here? Possibly.
853
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,433
You guys have seen
the little girl.
854
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,600
-At one point there
was a school on this property.
-Oh.
855
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,583
So, the possibilities are
endless as to who it could be.
856
00:37:46,583 --> 00:37:47,233
So, the possibilities are
endless as to who it could be.
857
00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,266
All right, so this first piece
858
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:50,700
and you had that hidden room
that was in the back
859
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:52,533
and I went up, climbed
through the window.
860
00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:54,967
I don't know why they
would have closed it off.
861
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,634
Was it a place
that somebody went to
to get away from everybody?
862
00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:01,600
Or was it a place
that somebody was put
to keep away from everybody?
863
00:38:01,634 --> 00:38:02,900
But the fact that it
was boarded up
864
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:04,800
-makes it pretty suspicious.
-Right.
865
00:38:04,867 --> 00:38:06,367
Of course the room's
taken a beating
866
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,433
throughout the years.
867
00:38:07,433 --> 00:38:09,367
I'm not sure, but while
we were up there
868
00:38:09,367 --> 00:38:10,967
we had a lot of activity.
869
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,266
Like there was this weird
sound that went huh,
870
00:38:13,266 --> 00:38:14,800
but then there
was this whisper.
871
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,333
I'll play it for you.
872
00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:16,583
Can anybody tell us what
this room was used for?
873
00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:18,900
Can anybody tell us what
this room was used for?
874
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:24,233
-I just heard it.
-Yeah.
875
00:38:24,233 --> 00:38:26,800
Can anybody tell us what
this room was used for?
876
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,333
-It sounded like somebody
praying at their bed.
-[Rachel] Oh, my God.
877
00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:36,233
I'm sure there's been
so much praying in here
878
00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:38,533
in the 75 years that
the priests lived here.
879
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,634
The team and I were
investigating in the basement,
880
00:38:41,634 --> 00:38:45,066
and we introduced
the altar stone.
881
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,583
And we heard a voice.
882
00:38:46,583 --> 00:38:47,166
And we heard a voice.
883
00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:48,266
What?
884
00:38:52,734 --> 00:38:53,967
I heard that.
885
00:38:53,967 --> 00:38:55,800
It almost sounds like,
"Now I see her."
886
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,967
I heard that.
887
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,333
Now I can see?
888
00:39:03,367 --> 00:39:04,367
What do you think, Har?
889
00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:07,066
-I don't wanna think.
-[all laughing]
890
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,166
But to really say what
it's saying, is a bit hard.
891
00:39:10,233 --> 00:39:11,800
-But it's there.
-[Rachel] Right.
892
00:39:11,867 --> 00:39:13,800
Sheri and I were downstairs
in the basement,
893
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,233
and I didn't hear this voice
sounding like a child
894
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:16,583
until later on when we were
going through the evidence.
895
00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:18,800
until later on when we were
going through the evidence.
896
00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:21,433
Can you tell us about
your mom?
897
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:26,967
-I hear someone say mommy.
-[Rachel] Ask your mom.
898
00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:29,533
-Yeah, like a British accent.
-[Rachel] Wow.
899
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,266
Can you tell us about
your mom?
900
00:39:34,533 --> 00:39:36,867
My son Austin and I,
we were upstairs in the attic.
901
00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:38,467
It was a quick voice
that happened.
902
00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:39,800
I wanna play it for you.
903
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,583
-I see you.
-I see you, yeah!
904
00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:46,967
-I see you.
-I see you, yeah!
905
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,100
It could be the little girl
who was heard
saying, "Help me."
906
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,333
That's freaking me out.
Oh, my God.
907
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,600
It makes me a little bit sad.
908
00:39:59,634 --> 00:40:02,266
-It's like a little child.
-Yeah.
909
00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:05,333
And she could be behind
my son being touched
in the bishop's room.
910
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,900
Maybe she's close by.
911
00:40:09,734 --> 00:40:12,367
[Austin] It felt like I just
got touched on my arm.
912
00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:14,800
In your opinion, is it okay
for us to talk to her?
913
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,583
If you're okay with that
sort of living history,
um, yes.
914
00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,000
If you're okay with that
sort of living history,
um, yes.
915
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,166
But that would also help
keep her here as well.
916
00:40:21,233 --> 00:40:24,000
If you're acknowledging her,
she has every reason
to stay here.
917
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,066
If you're ignoring her,
she'll probably move on
and go somewhere else.
918
00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:29,800
-[Steve] But you don't get
any, like, nefarious feeling?
-No.
919
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,634
Could something nefarious
have happened
920
00:40:31,634 --> 00:40:33,066
in the hidden room? Yes.
921
00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:35,600
But if there was something
here negative,
922
00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:37,367
we didn't get any of that.
923
00:40:37,367 --> 00:40:39,233
-That's a load off, right?
-Yeah.
924
00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:42,333
But you two guys, how do
you feel about all of this?
925
00:40:42,333 --> 00:40:45,800
Because I know you were quite
unsettled being in your rooms.
926
00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:46,583
I'm just glad we're not crazy.
927
00:40:46,583 --> 00:40:47,233
I'm just glad we're not crazy.
928
00:40:49,066 --> 00:40:52,233
Hopefully, this eases
the reasons to be frightened.
929
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,333
-Good, good.
-[Rachel] Oh, good.
930
00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:57,800
[Rachel] If you guys aren't
as afraid anymore
931
00:40:57,867 --> 00:40:59,600
that makes me feel better.
Especially you Caleb,
932
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,233
-because your room
was such a--
-[Jason] Hot spot.
933
00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:04,000
It was a hot spot
for activity for you.
934
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,800
If you guys need anything,
we're only a call away.
935
00:41:05,867 --> 00:41:07,333
-Thank you very much.
-Thank you for having us.
936
00:41:07,367 --> 00:41:09,266
-We appreciate it.
-Thank you guys both.
937
00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:11,166
-[Rachel] Oh, I feel
much better.
-Thank you.
938
00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:15,533
It's nice to know that it's
not just us
939
00:41:15,533 --> 00:41:16,583
seeing and hearing
these things.
940
00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:17,734
seeing and hearing
these things.
941
00:41:17,734 --> 00:41:20,900
I'm so glad particularly that
Caleb is gonna go back
to his room.
942
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,333
I feel a tremendous
amount of relief
943
00:41:24,367 --> 00:41:26,100
that I don't have
to sell this house.
944
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,100
I'm definitely ready just
to not be afraid here anymore
945
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,533
and maybe keep connecting
946
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,266
with whatever's sharing
the house with us.
947
00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,634
You know, I thought they
were gonna be afraid,
948
00:41:39,634 --> 00:41:41,533
but they were
excited and happy.
949
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,066
Caleb's ready to take
his room back.
950
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,967
-I know.
-That's awesome.
951
00:41:44,967 --> 00:41:46,583
-[Steve] Having Dustin out
was great.
-Yeah.
952
00:41:46,583 --> 00:41:46,800
-[Steve] Having Dustin out
was great.
-Yeah.
953
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Having Austin was phenomenal.
954
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,800
I mean, just being able
to get out there with my son
955
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,066
-was awesome.
-It was cool.
956
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,600
This was a great one.
957
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,734
I'll go the next, brother.