1 00:00:01,867 --> 00:00:03,734 Can you see? The bones of a saint are in here. 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:05,867 Oh, I heard that. 3 00:00:05,867 --> 00:00:08,266 That was as soon as we brought this out. 4 00:00:08,266 --> 00:00:11,634 [narrator] A 19th century mansion with a religious past... 5 00:00:11,634 --> 00:00:14,600 It was a rectory, so all the priests lived here. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,367 [narrator] has TAPS enlisting a family member... 7 00:00:17,433 --> 00:00:19,467 My son, Austin, this is going to be your first case. 8 00:00:19,467 --> 00:00:20,900 I'll go first. 9 00:00:21,967 --> 00:00:23,266 [bleep] 10 00:00:23,266 --> 00:00:25,367 [narrator] ...to unlock chilling secrets. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,000 There's a hidden room that they've never been into. 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,066 There's a hidden room that they've never been into. 13 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:31,266 [Austin] It felt like I just got touched. 14 00:00:31,266 --> 00:00:32,867 Oh, wow. 15 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:33,967 What the hell is that? 16 00:00:33,967 --> 00:00:35,367 Holy [bleep]. 17 00:00:35,367 --> 00:00:37,900 It was just a whisper, like somebody is kneeling down and praying. 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,967 Whoa. 19 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:57,367 So, Ogdensburg, New York, man. The Claire house. 20 00:00:57,367 --> 00:01:00,000 If you're thinking of a haunted mansion, it's this house. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,900 If you're thinking of a haunted mansion, it's this house. 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,967 Yeah. 23 00:01:02,967 --> 00:01:05,467 [narrator] TAPS is in Ogdensburg, New York, 24 00:01:05,467 --> 00:01:07,266 to investigate the Claire house, 25 00:01:08,266 --> 00:01:10,166 which was built in the 1880s, 26 00:01:10,233 --> 00:01:14,166 as a residence for the priest from a neighboring cathedral that has since burned down. 27 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:16,166 Dustin, always great having you here, man. 28 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:17,634 Thank you, sir. Always a pleasure, brother. 29 00:01:17,734 --> 00:01:20,000 And my son, Austin, this is going to be your first case joining us. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,166 Yeah, I'm excited. 31 00:01:22,166 --> 00:01:24,467 -I remember when Austin was this. -Yeah. 32 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:26,734 -Now he's... and this. -Yeah, crazy. 33 00:01:28,367 --> 00:01:30,000 Now, Hal and Rachel Kench, they own the Claire house. 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,367 Now, Hal and Rachel Kench, they own the Claire house. 35 00:01:31,433 --> 00:01:33,500 They bought it in 2019. 36 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:35,500 Yeah, I know that they've been doing some renovations. 37 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,066 With that, they've been experiencing all this crazy activity 38 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:39,533 and not just them. 39 00:01:39,634 --> 00:01:41,900 They have two teenage boys who have experienced a bunch of crazy things. 40 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:45,467 They're scared. 41 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:48,166 Yeah, you just don't want your children to be scared going home. 42 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:49,800 Right. I agree. 43 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:52,166 They're seeing the apparition of a priest. 44 00:01:52,233 --> 00:01:53,166 The apparition of 45 00:01:53,166 --> 00:01:55,367 a woman that looks skeletal. 46 00:01:55,433 --> 00:01:56,734 Skeletal. 47 00:01:56,734 --> 00:01:59,634 There is also claims of seeing an apparition of a little girl. 48 00:01:59,634 --> 00:02:00,000 -A lot of different sound phenomena. -Yeah. 49 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,700 -A lot of different sound phenomena. -Yeah. 50 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:05,266 I'm hoping that we can help this family out. 51 00:02:05,266 --> 00:02:08,166 There's no book on what to do when you buy a haunted house. 52 00:02:08,233 --> 00:02:09,166 Yeah, absolutely. 53 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,467 Wow, this is it. 54 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:13,533 Wow. 55 00:02:14,734 --> 00:02:16,166 That's a good sized house. 56 00:02:17,367 --> 00:02:18,734 -Yeah, it is. -Yeah. 57 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,467 [narrator] TAPS case. Claire house. Ogdensburg, New York. 58 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:39,266 -Well, hey. Thanks for having us out. -Thanks for coming. 59 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,467 Hi, so nice to meet you. Thanks for coming out. 60 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:42,467 -Harry. -What's up? 61 00:02:42,467 --> 00:02:43,533 -Caleb. -Hey. 62 00:02:43,533 --> 00:02:45,600 -Wow, what a beautiful house. -Thank you. 63 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,266 -And you all took ownership 2019. -Yep, correct. 64 00:02:49,266 --> 00:02:51,734 What's some of the history of the actual house? 65 00:02:52,734 --> 00:02:54,266 [Hal] It was built in 1884. 66 00:02:54,266 --> 00:02:56,900 It was originally the rectory for the cathedral next door. 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,533 So all the priests lived here. 68 00:02:58,533 --> 00:03:00,000 Then that church burned in '47. 69 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,333 Then that church burned in '47. 70 00:03:01,266 --> 00:03:03,734 [narrator] St. Mary's Cathedral was destroyed 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,867 but miraculously, the rectory survived 72 00:03:05,867 --> 00:03:08,066 and remained home to several priests 73 00:03:08,066 --> 00:03:10,367 including Bishop Joseph Conroy 74 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:12,734 who had overseen the rectory's construction. 75 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:15,467 He lived there for 37 years. 76 00:03:15,467 --> 00:03:18,467 Around 1960, all priests living at the rectory 77 00:03:18,533 --> 00:03:20,600 were relocated to a nearby residence 78 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,266 built at the new cathedral's location. 79 00:03:23,333 --> 00:03:25,500 Then the rectory became a residence 80 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:28,467 for the grey nuns of the sacred heart. 81 00:03:28,467 --> 00:03:30,000 In 2005, the nuns moved away and the rectory became a privately-owned home. 82 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,266 In 2005, the nuns moved away and the rectory became a privately-owned home. 83 00:03:34,266 --> 00:03:36,634 It was not maintained and fell into disrepair. 84 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:41,367 In 2019, the former rectory and surrounding land 85 00:03:41,433 --> 00:03:43,634 was purchased by the Kench family. 86 00:03:43,734 --> 00:03:46,533 The minute we drove past, I was like, that's our house. We need to buy it. 87 00:03:46,634 --> 00:03:48,467 -So you just felt drawn to it? -100%. 88 00:03:48,467 --> 00:03:49,533 But then, when you got the house, 89 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:51,634 you felt like you're just not welcomed here? 90 00:03:51,634 --> 00:03:52,867 -Correct. -Okay. 91 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:55,266 -And you bought this as a second home, right? -Yep. 92 00:03:55,266 --> 00:03:56,734 Once Harry graduates from high school, 93 00:03:56,734 --> 00:03:58,634 -we're going to live up here full-time. -Okay. 94 00:03:58,634 --> 00:04:00,000 And if this stuff continues to be as frightening as it is, 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,266 And if this stuff continues to be as frightening as it is, 96 00:04:02,333 --> 00:04:04,100 we have to sell this house. Like, I can't live here. 97 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:05,100 -Gotcha. -Okay. 98 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:06,967 I mean, with all this renovation, 99 00:04:06,967 --> 00:04:09,100 what have you come across in this house? 100 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:10,467 A lot of hidden doors. 101 00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:12,266 -We actually have a hidden room. -Oh, wow. 102 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:15,166 [Rachel] If you're on the outside of what looks like a second floor, right? 103 00:04:15,166 --> 00:04:18,100 There's two windows but we can't find a way to get into it. 104 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:20,166 -Nobody's been in there. -[Hal] We've never gone in. 105 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:23,266 -Are you okay if we try to... -Absolutely, yeah. 106 00:04:23,266 --> 00:04:26,266 Do you know if anybody has ever passed away in the home? 107 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,266 We don't know about passing away here. 108 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,000 But underneath the cathedral, a couple of the bishops were buried. 109 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 But underneath the cathedral, a couple of the bishops were buried. 110 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,367 Then there was also a family and their last name was Gardner. 111 00:04:35,433 --> 00:04:37,800 For some reason, they were also buried in the crypt. 112 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:41,100 But when the cathedral burned in 1947, 113 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,734 they moved the bodies of the priests and the bishops 114 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,367 to the crypt at the new St. Mary's. 115 00:04:45,367 --> 00:04:48,533 But allegedly, they never took out the Gardner family. 116 00:04:48,634 --> 00:04:51,166 Do you know anything about the Gardners? 117 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:54,467 My thought was maybe they give a lot of money to the church. I don't know, though. 118 00:04:54,533 --> 00:04:57,367 So what kind of things have you guys been experiencing? 119 00:04:57,367 --> 00:04:59,266 It was late at night, everybody else was asleep 120 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:00,000 and I was walking down the first floor. 121 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,734 and I was walking down the first floor. 122 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,166 And I see in the doorway of the dining room, this big shadowy figure. 123 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:09,433 And a funny hat. And then he just fades away. 124 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:13,266 -Did it scare you? -I was horrified. 125 00:05:13,266 --> 00:05:14,700 Okay, all right. 126 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,533 [narrator] Caleb has also encountered a terrifying apparition 127 00:05:17,634 --> 00:05:19,634 in his second floor bedroom. 128 00:05:19,634 --> 00:05:23,166 I was trying to fall asleep and I just got this distinct feeling 129 00:05:23,166 --> 00:05:24,734 I was, like, being watched. 130 00:05:24,734 --> 00:05:28,634 So I looked over, and in the corner of my room, there's this skeletal figure 131 00:05:28,634 --> 00:05:30,000 of a woman wearing, like, a black dress. 132 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,800 of a woman wearing, like, a black dress. 133 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:33,467 Floating, almost, towards my bed, and I was paralyzed. 134 00:05:35,367 --> 00:05:36,867 He doesn't sleep in that room anymore. 135 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:38,066 Wow. Okay. 136 00:05:38,066 --> 00:05:40,634 Okay. Have you seen anything else on the second floor? 137 00:05:40,734 --> 00:05:42,066 Oh, yeah. 138 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:46,100 I was in my room and my doorknob was jingling. 139 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:47,734 So I step outside my door 140 00:05:47,734 --> 00:05:49,600 and I kind of do a double take, 141 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,100 because behind the corner of the stairs, 142 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,867 I see this little girl looking right at me. 143 00:05:54,867 --> 00:05:56,000 And she was gone. 144 00:05:58,734 --> 00:06:00,000 [narrator] Harry is not the only person 145 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,600 [narrator] Harry is not the only person 146 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,867 to see the little girl on the second floor. 147 00:06:02,867 --> 00:06:06,467 Our son, who at the time had just turned five years old, 148 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:10,266 came downstairs and he said, mom, where'd that little girl go? 149 00:06:10,266 --> 00:06:13,367 What little girl? Because there's no other children here. 150 00:06:13,367 --> 00:06:16,100 And he's like, the little girl with a guy. 151 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:19,533 And my uncle had heard him and he was like, where did you see them? 152 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,734 So he brought us up into the bishop's room. 153 00:06:22,734 --> 00:06:26,533 And he said, "She just kept saying help me, help me." 154 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:30,000 [narrator] In the attic and throughout the house, footsteps 155 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,333 [narrator] In the attic and throughout the house, footsteps 156 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:36,800 and loud banging sounds have been heard. 157 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:42,867 So if you guys could say one area of this house is the most active, 158 00:06:42,867 --> 00:06:44,734 where would you say that area would be? 159 00:06:44,734 --> 00:06:46,166 The basement. 160 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:48,867 For the longest time, Rachel wouldn't even go in the basement. 161 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:53,367 [narrator] In the basement, ominous shadow figures have been seen. 162 00:06:53,367 --> 00:06:56,734 It's also where the family made their most shocking discovery. 163 00:06:57,367 --> 00:06:59,367 So we found this stone 164 00:06:59,433 --> 00:07:00,000 and it's got crosses all over it 165 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,166 and it's got crosses all over it 166 00:07:01,233 --> 00:07:02,533 and then it's kind of charred-looking. 167 00:07:02,634 --> 00:07:04,000 -Charred? -Yeah. 168 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,467 Do you think maybe it spent time at the cathedral and caught fire? 169 00:07:06,467 --> 00:07:08,700 -Yeah. -We think it was the actual altar stone. 170 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:12,000 An altar stone actually has the bones of two saints in it. 171 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,533 Have you guys ever thought about removing it from the property 172 00:07:14,533 --> 00:07:16,634 to see if the activity stops? 173 00:07:16,734 --> 00:07:17,734 -No. -I feel like it belongs here. 174 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:19,367 [Hal] I feel like it needs to stay here. 175 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,800 What are you hoping that we're able to accomplish here? 176 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:25,367 Prove that we're not crazy. Hopefully, provide some answers. 177 00:07:25,367 --> 00:07:30,000 Could we do something to make the energy feel not as frightening? 178 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,066 Could we do something to make the energy feel not as frightening? 179 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:31,533 It's like, are we in denial? 180 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:35,066 Am I being a horrible mother, forcing my kids to come stay in this house? 181 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:37,467 Well, I think from here, we're going to go start figuring out how to set up. 182 00:07:37,467 --> 00:07:39,066 -Thank you, guys, so much. -A lot of great information. 183 00:07:39,066 --> 00:07:40,634 Well, thank you, guys. Talk to you soon, then. 184 00:07:40,734 --> 00:07:41,734 -Right. -You got it. 185 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:45,367 -All righty. -Hey. 186 00:07:45,367 --> 00:07:46,967 -So, it went well. -Yeah. 187 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:49,166 There's been a lot of creepy things that have been going on in this house. 188 00:07:49,166 --> 00:07:50,533 The boys do not want to be here. 189 00:07:50,533 --> 00:07:52,700 -One actually changed rooms. -Really? 190 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,166 Do you think the boys are all seeing it much more than the parents 191 00:07:55,166 --> 00:07:56,867 because of their age? 192 00:07:56,867 --> 00:08:00,000 That's very possible. We know that children are more prone to see things than adults. 193 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,367 That's very possible. We know that children are more prone to see things than adults. 194 00:08:00,433 --> 00:08:02,467 And they found an altar stone 195 00:08:02,533 --> 00:08:04,867 and there's actually the bones of a saint in it. 196 00:08:04,867 --> 00:08:05,867 What? 197 00:08:05,867 --> 00:08:07,900 -And it's still in the basement. -Oh, wow. 198 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,367 So that could be a great trigger object. 199 00:08:10,367 --> 00:08:11,600 That's cool. 200 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,467 Also, there's a hidden room that they've never been into. 201 00:08:14,533 --> 00:08:15,533 Ooh. 202 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:18,533 -Somebody, like, sealed it off? Why? -Exactly. Why? 203 00:08:18,533 --> 00:08:20,734 -That's cool. -We're going to find a way to access it. 204 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,266 Oh, love that. 205 00:08:22,333 --> 00:08:24,100 -I think we should start getting going, here. -Okay. 206 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:25,500 Let's do it. 207 00:08:29,266 --> 00:08:30,000 Rachel and her husband, Hal, have called us because they are afraid 208 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,500 Rachel and her husband, Hal, have called us because they are afraid 209 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:37,100 and the kids won't even stay in their rooms. 210 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:42,000 I'm looking forward to actually spending some time investigating 211 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,266 with my son, Austin. 212 00:08:43,266 --> 00:08:45,467 This is the first investigation he's ever been on 213 00:08:45,467 --> 00:08:47,700 but he's been raised in a household 214 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:49,634 where the paranormal was the normal. 215 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:53,166 Let's go forward a bit, if we can. 216 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:55,533 My dad's always taught me not to ever be scared of the paranormal 217 00:08:55,634 --> 00:08:57,433 and it's more of a mystery and not a fear. 218 00:09:00,266 --> 00:09:02,266 I hope we find out what's in there, 219 00:09:02,266 --> 00:09:04,900 giving the family a little bit more comfort. 220 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,166 All right, guys. That's all angles, thank you. 221 00:09:10,367 --> 00:09:12,700 All right. We have cameras everywhere. 222 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:14,166 You know, the first floor. 223 00:09:14,233 --> 00:09:15,100 The parlor. 224 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:16,500 We have the second floor hall. 225 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,367 Harry and Caleb's rooms, because they're both terrified. 226 00:09:19,433 --> 00:09:20,800 Yeah. 227 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,734 We have Bishop Conroy's room, where they've seen him and also a girl, 228 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,800 we have one in the attic 229 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,367 the basement. 230 00:09:27,433 --> 00:09:28,533 This looks awesome. 231 00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:29,967 Let's get the lights out and get ready to investigate. 232 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:30,000 All right. 233 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,166 All right. 234 00:09:46,166 --> 00:09:49,000 So Austin, Steve, you guys take the attic. 235 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,166 Yeah. 236 00:09:50,166 --> 00:09:51,867 -Shari and I will start in the basement. -All right. 237 00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:54,333 -We'll hold down the fort, here. -Thanks, guys. 238 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,533 They should be coming in there in a moment. 239 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,100 So here we go to the attic, huh? 240 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:14,533 Okay. Ooh. 241 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:17,166 Austin and Steve are in the attic, 242 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:19,634 where the claims are footsteps and bangs. 243 00:10:21,367 --> 00:10:23,100 -Let's go in there. -Yeah. 244 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:27,367 That's what I like to do first is just wander around and feel the space out. 245 00:10:27,367 --> 00:10:28,533 Yeah. 246 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:30,000 Hello? 247 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,467 Hello? 248 00:10:32,967 --> 00:10:35,066 We know about the fire that happened. 249 00:10:36,967 --> 00:10:39,100 There's a family who lives in here, now. 250 00:10:40,867 --> 00:10:41,900 Whoa. 251 00:10:43,066 --> 00:10:45,100 Sounded like a door and it kicked. 252 00:10:46,867 --> 00:10:47,900 Let's go. 253 00:10:49,367 --> 00:10:50,367 Hello? 254 00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:57,066 Jay and Shari are in the basement 255 00:10:57,100 --> 00:11:00,000 where they hear footsteps and also they've seen a shadow figure. 256 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,100 where they hear footsteps and also they've seen a shadow figure. 257 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,900 What are these? 258 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:10,367 Were these here for storage or confessional? 259 00:11:10,367 --> 00:11:11,634 Oh, right. 260 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:16,066 Or somebody was kept down here. 261 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,433 Oh, my gosh. 262 00:11:20,467 --> 00:11:23,066 -It was just... -Was it a voice? 263 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:24,467 Yeah. It sounded like a girl. 264 00:11:24,467 --> 00:11:25,467 Oh my God. 265 00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:28,634 [Shari] Is there a little girl in here? 266 00:11:29,867 --> 00:11:30,000 [Jason] Can you tell us about your mom? 267 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,533 [Jason] Can you tell us about your mom? 268 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,467 Yeah, it's somebody walking upstairs. 269 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:43,233 Jay to Dave? 270 00:11:45,166 --> 00:11:46,166 Dave. 271 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:49,800 Dave, is there anybody on the first floor? 272 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:52,900 There's nobody in there. 273 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,367 100% somebody walking. 274 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:02,166 Holy crap. 275 00:12:08,967 --> 00:12:11,634 -We both heard footsteps. -Oh, yeah. Definitely. 276 00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:24,166 I say we follow those footsteps and head to the next floor. 277 00:12:24,233 --> 00:12:25,166 Yeah. 278 00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:29,533 We know there's a little girl. 279 00:12:31,166 --> 00:12:35,057 Maybe if that was you walking, maybe you'll come talk to us. 280 00:12:35,057 --> 00:12:35,066 Maybe if that was you walking, maybe you'll come talk to us. 281 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,533 Are you trying to get our attention? 282 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,533 Can you make some more noise for us? 283 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:55,000 What's that? 284 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 This is a laser grid. 285 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:00,867 So anything with mass that moves in front of it, 286 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,800 this will detect it. 287 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:08,333 We heard about everybody that lived up here. 288 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:12,166 All of the nuns. 289 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:15,166 Everybody knows who Bishop Conroy is, right? 290 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:17,533 Whoa. 291 00:13:17,533 --> 00:13:18,634 Wow. 292 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,166 Something walking. 293 00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:26,467 It was kind of just all around us for a minute. 294 00:13:26,467 --> 00:13:30,066 I think whatever's up here does not want to be in the same room as us. 295 00:13:36,533 --> 00:13:38,467 Jay and Shari are in the parlor room 296 00:13:38,467 --> 00:13:41,367 where the claims are they hear footsteps. 297 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,166 That's what we were just hearing. 298 00:13:43,166 --> 00:13:44,367 Yeah. 299 00:13:44,433 --> 00:13:45,867 [Shari] We're in the dining room. 300 00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:50,367 The son, Harry, thought that he saw a man that looked like Bishop Conroy. 301 00:13:51,867 --> 00:13:56,734 We were told that there was a gentleman that walks around this house. 302 00:13:56,734 --> 00:14:01,433 If the bishop is here, why is there a room upstairs that was closed off? 303 00:14:03,734 --> 00:14:05,057 Did something happen in that room? 304 00:14:05,057 --> 00:14:05,433 Did something happen in that room? 305 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:11,467 What the hell was that? 306 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:13,233 That literally looked like somebody moved by me. 307 00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,166 [bleep] 308 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:18,900 [Shari] Are there any priests with us who once lived here when it was a rectory? 309 00:14:21,166 --> 00:14:22,266 Hello? 310 00:14:23,734 --> 00:14:26,900 That camera's right on us. I want to check that out. 311 00:14:28,734 --> 00:14:29,900 Jay to TAPS. 312 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,634 Shari and I want to check out the security cameras. 313 00:14:34,867 --> 00:14:35,057 So Tango, why don't you and Steve head to the basement. 314 00:14:35,057 --> 00:14:38,166 So Tango, why don't you and Steve head to the basement. 315 00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:39,600 Copy that. 316 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,333 Austin and Dustin, you two take the second floor. 317 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:44,233 Ten four. 318 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,634 [Austin] I feel like my dad doing this. 319 00:14:49,734 --> 00:14:51,967 [Dustin] But you're younger and you have hair. 320 00:14:51,967 --> 00:14:53,734 [Austin] Yeah, I don't pop whenever I move. 321 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,800 [laughs] 322 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,057 This is Dustin and Austin. 323 00:15:05,057 --> 00:15:05,166 This is Dustin and Austin. 324 00:15:05,233 --> 00:15:07,266 The second floor of the Claire house. 325 00:15:07,266 --> 00:15:09,100 This is Caleb's room. 326 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:11,533 -He won't sleep in this room. -Yeah. 327 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:16,467 Caleb says he saw the skeletal woman. 328 00:15:16,533 --> 00:15:19,166 Is there a woman that looks very thin here? 329 00:15:22,166 --> 00:15:24,800 I'm 18. I'm almost the same age as Caleb. 330 00:15:26,066 --> 00:15:28,533 Do younger people have an easier time seeing you? 331 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,333 Is there a woman in a dress here? 332 00:15:33,734 --> 00:15:35,057 This room's pretty quiet. You want to go check out somewhere else? 333 00:15:35,057 --> 00:15:36,533 This room's pretty quiet. You want to go check out somewhere else? 334 00:15:36,634 --> 00:15:37,634 Yeah. 335 00:15:37,634 --> 00:15:40,266 I've been wanting to investigate the bishop room. 336 00:15:40,266 --> 00:15:41,467 All right. The bishop's room. 337 00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:51,166 Claims of seeing apparitions of both a child and the bishop. 338 00:15:53,367 --> 00:15:54,900 Hello? 339 00:15:56,734 --> 00:16:01,734 If you're here, could you maybe tap one of us on the hand or the shoulder? 340 00:16:01,734 --> 00:16:04,634 We'd really appreciate if you can make yourself known. 341 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:11,634 You don't have to be scared of us. 342 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:16,100 Both the bishop and the little girl would have had to be... 343 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:18,367 -You okay? -Yeah, it's cold. 344 00:16:18,367 --> 00:16:20,000 I'm getting, like, the chills. 345 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,266 Oh, wow. 346 00:16:21,266 --> 00:16:22,800 So maybe she's close by. 347 00:16:25,367 --> 00:16:27,734 It felt like I just got touched on the arm. 348 00:16:27,734 --> 00:16:29,066 That's crazy. 349 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:37,634 Steve and Tango. We're in the basement. 350 00:16:37,734 --> 00:16:39,800 This is where they've seen a shadow figure. 351 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:43,166 Is anyone here from the Gardner family? 352 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:49,333 Heard that you were left on the property after the cathedral burned down. 353 00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:53,333 That's where that altar stone is. 354 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:55,734 Okay. I'm going to grab it. 355 00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:58,800 Just be very careful. Two hands, take your time. 356 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,467 Be careful. 357 00:17:00,467 --> 00:17:01,634 Look at this.. 358 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,533 That must be where they put the bones. 359 00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:05,057 I wonder if that's what's causing the unrest. 360 00:17:05,057 --> 00:17:07,533 I wonder if that's what's causing the unrest. 361 00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:11,066 Just that. Like, it needs to be in a proper place. 362 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:12,433 Do you know what we found? 363 00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:16,634 An altar stone and the bones of a saint are in here. 364 00:17:18,734 --> 00:17:20,634 The family here, they want to do the right thing. 365 00:17:22,634 --> 00:17:23,800 What should they do? 366 00:17:32,634 --> 00:17:33,800 I heard that. 367 00:17:35,734 --> 00:17:36,967 Sounds like a voice, Dave. 368 00:17:36,967 --> 00:17:38,734 I agree. 369 00:17:38,734 --> 00:17:40,900 It was as soon as we brought this out. 370 00:17:41,734 --> 00:17:42,800 God have mercy. 371 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:47,634 Hello? 372 00:17:50,367 --> 00:17:51,433 We heard you. 373 00:17:52,266 --> 00:17:54,433 Can you see what I'm holding, here? 374 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,233 We're not going to take it, 375 00:17:57,233 --> 00:18:00,166 we just want to know what the family should do with it. 376 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,333 If the little girl is here, can you tell us your name? 377 00:18:07,266 --> 00:18:08,266 Did you touch me? 378 00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:11,734 You can do it again. 379 00:18:11,734 --> 00:18:14,196 Would you like to sit up on the bed next to Austin, there? 380 00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:14,700 Would you like to sit up on the bed next to Austin, there? 381 00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:24,634 Hey, guys. I think it's time to wrap right now. 382 00:18:24,634 --> 00:18:26,100 Copy that. 383 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:27,266 I don't like this bed. 384 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,367 I've never experienced that in my life. 385 00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:33,900 Ceremonial first investigation. 386 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:36,800 No-look high five in three, two and one. 387 00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:40,166 -We're out. -Well done, sir. 388 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:42,800 -Hey, guys. -Hey. 389 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,196 So Austin, how was your first night investigating? 390 00:18:44,196 --> 00:18:44,800 So Austin, how was your first night investigating? 391 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,100 -Yeah. -I felt something touch me. 392 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,000 Ooh. 393 00:18:48,066 --> 00:18:49,100 It's crazy. I want to know why. 394 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,433 I don't know if we'll ever know why. 395 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:51,900 -Yeah. -But at least we know more. 396 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:55,233 -Absolutely. -Tomorrow, I'll have a meeting with the local historian. 397 00:18:55,233 --> 00:18:56,634 And Dustin, if you want to come with me? 398 00:18:56,634 --> 00:18:58,100 Yeah, that'd be great. Of course. 399 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,800 -And I was able to get a lift. -Oh, yeah. 400 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:03,867 So we can get up to the hidden room. 401 00:19:03,867 --> 00:19:04,800 That's a great idea. 402 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:06,266 And they did say that they believe 403 00:19:06,266 --> 00:19:09,467 the Gardner family is still buried on the grounds. 404 00:19:09,467 --> 00:19:12,100 Maybe we should see about getting some cadaver dogs out here 405 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:14,100 and just seeing if there's any truth behind that. 406 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:14,196 Yeah. 407 00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:15,100 Yeah. 408 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:16,433 Let's get out of here and get started early. 409 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,000 -All right, let's do it. -Good job, guys. 410 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:30,233 Take a listen to this. 411 00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:31,734 This is when Shari and I were in the basement 412 00:19:31,734 --> 00:19:34,100 I say, "Can you tell us about your mom?" 413 00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,266 And there's this quick voice 414 00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:37,233 that I couldn't make out till now. 415 00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:39,700 While Austin and I review last night's evidence... 416 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:42,634 [high-pitched voice] 417 00:19:43,634 --> 00:19:44,196 Yeah, that sounds like a little girl. 418 00:19:44,196 --> 00:19:44,800 Yeah, that sounds like a little girl. 419 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:45,734 It does. 420 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,233 [vehicle beeping] 421 00:19:48,533 --> 00:19:50,233 Tango and Steve bring in the lift 422 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:52,433 needed to access the hidden room tonight. 423 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,333 And Shari and Dustin 424 00:19:55,367 --> 00:19:57,533 head to the Ogdensburg Public Library 425 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,233 to meet local historian, Julie Madlin. 426 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:01,233 Hi. Shari. 427 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:02,533 Hi. Julie. 428 00:20:02,533 --> 00:20:03,634 Hi, Julie, I'm Dustin. 429 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:04,734 -Hi. -[Dustin] Pleased to meet you. 430 00:20:04,734 --> 00:20:06,233 [Shari] Now, with the Claire House, 431 00:20:06,266 --> 00:20:08,100 could you tell us about the history of that property? 432 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,333 Yes. 433 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,734 [Julie] Around 1835, 434 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,196 Father Foley built a small stone church 435 00:20:14,196 --> 00:20:14,734 Father Foley built a small stone church 436 00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:17,100 near where Claire House is today, 437 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:20,800 and he actually died in his home, 438 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,867 which was also on that property. 439 00:20:22,867 --> 00:20:23,800 Okay. 440 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:26,000 Then Father Mackey came to Ogdensburg. 441 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,433 Um, he oversaw the construction 442 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,367 of St. Mary's Cathedral. 443 00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:32,367 And does he pass away on the property as well, 444 00:20:32,367 --> 00:20:33,900 -do we know, Father Mackey? -Yes. 445 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,100 [Dustin] Oh, okay. 446 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,634 [Julie] They were buried in the crypt at the cathedral. 447 00:20:37,634 --> 00:20:41,233 Also buried at the crypt at the old St. Mary's Cathedral 448 00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:42,900 -were the Gardner family. -[Dustin] Right. 449 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:44,196 [Julie] They were a wealthy family. 450 00:20:44,196 --> 00:20:44,867 [Julie] They were a wealthy family. 451 00:20:44,867 --> 00:20:47,100 They purchased the land for the church. 452 00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:48,367 [Dustin] Oh, okay. 453 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,266 -[Shari] That explains why they're buried there. -[Julie] Yes. 454 00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:51,900 [Dustin] And is it correct that the Gardners 455 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,100 were not moved to the new cathedral 456 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,734 with Father Mackey and Foley? 457 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,100 I did not find documents that tell me that they were moved. 458 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,634 -[Shari] Okay. -[Julie] Yeah. 459 00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:03,467 Do you know of any other deaths on the property? 460 00:21:03,467 --> 00:21:06,266 Matthew Adams and his wife, 461 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:08,233 Irene Amo Adams, 462 00:21:08,233 --> 00:21:09,533 took care of the property. 463 00:21:09,533 --> 00:21:11,000 They had eight children. 464 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,233 -And they would have lived on the property as well? -Yes. 465 00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:14,196 And Mrs. Adams at the age of 32 466 00:21:14,196 --> 00:21:17,266 And Mrs. Adams at the age of 32 467 00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:18,367 died of pneumonia. 468 00:21:18,367 --> 00:21:19,800 [Shari] Oh, my God. 469 00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:21,634 -[Dustin] Poor kids. -[Julie] Basically, tore the family apart. 470 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:22,634 [Shari] Oh, my gosh. 471 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:24,634 Um, and this was in 1935. 472 00:21:24,634 --> 00:21:25,533 Oh, wow! 473 00:21:25,533 --> 00:21:27,800 So, did any children die on the property? 474 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,333 No children that I'm aware of, 475 00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:30,800 but there's always the possibility, 476 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,533 and there also was a small parochial school on that site 477 00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:36,233 built around 1862. 478 00:21:36,233 --> 00:21:38,100 That's something to consider. 479 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:39,233 [Shari] Absolutely. 480 00:21:39,233 --> 00:21:41,367 Well, thank you so much for a lot of information. 481 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:42,266 We really appreciate it. 482 00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:43,233 My pleasure. 483 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,196 Good, boy! Good boy. 484 00:21:44,196 --> 00:21:45,266 Good, boy! Good boy. 485 00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:49,533 Drop! 486 00:21:49,533 --> 00:21:50,634 Hi, Nina. 487 00:21:50,634 --> 00:21:51,734 -[Nina] Hi! -Hi! 488 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,634 -Jason Hawes, how are ya? -Nice to meet you. 489 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:54,467 Beautiful dog. 490 00:21:54,467 --> 00:21:55,533 [Nina] This is Kevlar. 491 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:56,800 -Kevlar! -Cool. 492 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,533 So, there's local legend 493 00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:00,533 that there was a family buried here. 494 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Do you have a defined area you want me to search? 495 00:22:03,066 --> 00:22:04,467 [Jason] Pretty much this field. 496 00:22:04,467 --> 00:22:07,367 There used to be a cathedral up here, so, 497 00:22:07,367 --> 00:22:09,367 we're just trying to see if there's any truth to this. 498 00:22:09,367 --> 00:22:10,367 Okay. 499 00:22:10,367 --> 00:22:11,533 You've had a lot of great results 500 00:22:11,533 --> 00:22:12,800 -with Kevlar in the past? -Yeah. 501 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,196 -All right, well, let's do it. -Yeah. It's exciting. 502 00:22:14,196 --> 00:22:15,266 -All right, well, let's do it. -Yeah. It's exciting. 503 00:22:15,266 --> 00:22:16,900 [Nina] Come here. Sit. 504 00:22:18,166 --> 00:22:20,000 [Jason] So, what kind of signal are we looking for? 505 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,800 [Nina] When Kev finds something, 506 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,000 he will do really intense sniffing. 507 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,166 [Jason] Oh, okay. All right. 508 00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,900 Locking on to something. 509 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Do they have different signals for an animal 510 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,100 or if it's a human? 511 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,100 He is only trained to locate human remains. 512 00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:35,166 Gotcha. 513 00:22:39,734 --> 00:22:40,900 [Jason] How'd he go? 514 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,367 [Nina] There is a couple spots where he slowed down 515 00:22:42,367 --> 00:22:44,000 and returned to a couple of times, 516 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,196 but I would say that it's a little bit inconclusive. 517 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:46,333 but I would say that it's a little bit inconclusive. 518 00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:47,467 With a dog like this, 519 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:50,333 is there an idea of how deep it can sense down to? 520 00:22:50,367 --> 00:22:52,533 We know that they can find skeletal remains 521 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,100 several feet underground. 522 00:22:54,166 --> 00:22:54,900 Oh, okay. 523 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:56,634 But two areas of interest at least. 524 00:22:56,634 --> 00:22:57,800 Yes. 525 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,233 I think it'll help them to know it isn't definitive. 526 00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:01,367 -Right. -Thank you very much. 527 00:23:01,367 --> 00:23:02,467 You're very welcome. 528 00:23:02,467 --> 00:23:03,900 [Jason] You have a great day now. This was great. 529 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,100 -Bye, Kevlar! -Bye, Kev. 530 00:23:09,734 --> 00:23:10,634 [Jason] Hey. 531 00:23:10,634 --> 00:23:12,000 -'Sup, boss. -What's up, guys. 532 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,800 [Jason] Hey, guys. 533 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,196 So, anything on the Gardner family? 534 00:23:14,196 --> 00:23:14,734 So, anything on the Gardner family? 535 00:23:14,734 --> 00:23:15,900 [Shari] Yes. 536 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,100 They were the original owners who gave up this land. 537 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:19,367 -Oh! -Oh, wow! 538 00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:20,734 So, they were buried in the crypt, 539 00:23:20,734 --> 00:23:22,800 but nobody knows if they were actually removed from the crypt. 540 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:24,900 Could be where that dog did some slight hits. 541 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,900 That's true. 542 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,467 So, Father Foley died in 1839 543 00:23:28,467 --> 00:23:30,867 -in his home that was behind the church. -Mmm-hmm. 544 00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:32,467 [Shari] And that's no longer there. 545 00:23:32,467 --> 00:23:34,634 So, that's one confirmed death on the property. 546 00:23:34,634 --> 00:23:35,900 Okay. 547 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,100 And then Father James Mackey built St. Mary's Cathedral, 548 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,100 and did pass away on the property. 549 00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:41,100 -Okay. -[Steve] Okay. 550 00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:43,467 Also, there was just adjacent to this building, 551 00:23:43,467 --> 00:23:44,196 a caretaker's house. 552 00:23:44,196 --> 00:23:44,467 a caretaker's house. 553 00:23:44,467 --> 00:23:46,734 Unfortunately, the caretaker's wife, 554 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,100 uh, Irene Amo Adams, 555 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,433 she passed away leaving her eight children here... 556 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,634 -[Steve] Mmm. -...uh, with just her husband. 557 00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:54,867 The Adams family then moved off the property. 558 00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:56,467 [Steve] I wonder if Irene Adams 559 00:23:56,467 --> 00:23:59,367 is the skeleton woman looking for her children. 560 00:23:59,367 --> 00:24:01,000 You know, that is some emotion 561 00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:02,000 that we don't understand, you know? 562 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,333 Yeah. 563 00:24:03,367 --> 00:24:05,266 So, I think there's some good information here. 564 00:24:05,266 --> 00:24:06,634 -We got the lift in... -[Steve] Mmm-hmm. 565 00:24:06,634 --> 00:24:09,233 ...so, we're gonna be able to try to access that hidden room. 566 00:24:09,266 --> 00:24:10,233 [Steve] Yeah. 567 00:24:10,266 --> 00:24:11,734 Was there anything on that? 568 00:24:11,734 --> 00:24:14,100 She said that's where they put all the bats from the house. 569 00:24:14,166 --> 00:24:14,196 All in that one room. 570 00:24:14,196 --> 00:24:15,100 All in that one room. 571 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,634 [all laughing] 572 00:24:16,634 --> 00:24:18,367 All right, let's get into this hidden room. 573 00:24:18,367 --> 00:24:20,100 [Steve] Yeah, let's get that lift going. 574 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,634 Good job, guys. 575 00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:32,634 [Jason] We now have names of three people who died on the property, 576 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:35,000 and could be behind the activity experienced. 577 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,900 Father Foley and Mackey, 578 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,734 as well as the caretaker's wife, Irene Adams, 579 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,100 whose sudden death left behind eight devastated children. 580 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:44,196 We also learned about a Catholic school 581 00:24:44,196 --> 00:24:45,100 We also learned about a Catholic school 582 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,867 that once stood on this land 583 00:24:46,867 --> 00:24:50,467 that may have connection to the little girl seen. 584 00:24:50,467 --> 00:24:51,900 All right, let's do this. 585 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,367 -See you guys. -See ya. Bye. 586 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:54,533 Where do you wanna sit? 587 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,233 [Jason] We're gonna start tonight's investigation 588 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,100 with Austin and Dustin at the monitors 589 00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,533 watching for any activity. 590 00:25:00,467 --> 00:25:01,367 [Jason] Woo-hoo! 591 00:25:01,367 --> 00:25:03,100 [Steve] Oh, this makes me nervous, Jay. 592 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,734 [Jason] Steve will help me break into that secret hidden room 593 00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,100 that can only be accessed through this high window, 594 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,000 and Tango and Shari will investigate the second floor. 595 00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:14,196 [Dave] This is Dave and Shari. We're i on the second floor. 596 00:25:14,196 --> 00:25:14,433 [Dave] This is Dave and Shari. We're i on the second floor. 597 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:17,100 They've seen a little girl in multiple areas. 598 00:25:17,166 --> 00:25:19,467 Possibly Bishop Conroy 599 00:25:19,467 --> 00:25:22,333 and also the skeletal woman. 600 00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:23,800 [Shari] I'm gonna put this here, 601 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,000 -so, all you have to do is come close to this antenna... -[antenna beeping] 602 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,734 [Shari] ...then those lights will come on, 603 00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:30,266 -and then there's music. -[antenna beeping] 604 00:25:30,266 --> 00:25:31,233 [Shari] Okay. 605 00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:34,000 Irene, have you remained on the property? 606 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:38,533 Are you the skeletal woman that's been seen? 607 00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:42,333 Whether you mean to or not... 608 00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:44,196 ...you're scaring the family that lives here now. 609 00:25:44,196 --> 00:25:45,800 ...you're scaring the family that lives here now. 610 00:25:48,867 --> 00:25:50,734 [Shari] If someone is here, 611 00:25:50,734 --> 00:25:54,433 can you touch that piece of equipment that's on the ground? 612 00:25:56,367 --> 00:25:57,233 [Dave] Ooh. 613 00:25:57,367 --> 00:25:58,800 -[Antenna whistling] -[Shari] Oh, my gosh. 614 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,634 [Steve] Okay, everything's powered-up. 615 00:26:07,467 --> 00:26:08,800 [lift whirring] 616 00:26:10,233 --> 00:26:12,000 Wow! 617 00:26:12,066 --> 00:26:13,433 That's way higher than I could go. 618 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,100 It's terrifying. 619 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,266 [Jason] All right. 620 00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:20,367 [Steve] Oh, God, Jay. 621 00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:22,233 [Jason] These windows are nailed shut. 622 00:26:22,233 --> 00:26:23,333 [Steve] Wow. 623 00:26:24,734 --> 00:26:27,533 I've never seen this on an investigation. 624 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,734 Very slow, calculated moves, Jay. 625 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,100 [Jason] No matter what happens... 626 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,233 ...I love you like a brother. 627 00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:36,100 [Steve] Thank you, I love you too. 628 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,166 [Jason] [bleep]! 629 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:43,467 [Jason] I'm in. 630 00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:44,634 He's in. 631 00:26:45,467 --> 00:26:48,100 Oh, my heart. God have mercy. 632 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,533 [Jason] I'm gonna send you a video. 633 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,000 All right, so, this is what we're up against. 634 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,800 [Steve] Whoa! 635 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,100 [Jason] This room's taken serious beatings 636 00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:57,967 throughout the years. 637 00:26:57,967 --> 00:26:59,000 [Steve] Wow. 638 00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:02,333 [Jason] Look at the floor. 639 00:27:02,367 --> 00:27:04,100 There's debris everywhere. 640 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,333 The ceiling is shot. 641 00:27:05,367 --> 00:27:06,533 [Steve] Wow! 642 00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:08,363 [Jason] I'm gonna flip this thing over so I can see. 643 00:27:08,363 --> 00:27:08,433 [Jason] I'm gonna flip this thing over so I can see. 644 00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:12,433 We have a main line. 645 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,233 So, there's a toilet, 646 00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:15,967 there's a sink, 647 00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:18,433 I'm looking at old lead piping. 648 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,233 That is the original doorway. 649 00:27:21,233 --> 00:27:23,533 That's the small hole in the door. 650 00:27:23,533 --> 00:27:26,467 [Steve] I mean, that could have been used as a food pass. 651 00:27:26,467 --> 00:27:27,467 It really could have. 652 00:27:27,467 --> 00:27:29,233 Do you wanna head in to figure out where 653 00:27:29,233 --> 00:27:31,333 the other side of the wall is? 654 00:27:31,333 --> 00:27:32,634 That's a great idea. 655 00:27:32,634 --> 00:27:34,433 This is Steve for Tango and Sheri. 656 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:35,900 Go for Tango and Sheri. 657 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,533 I'm just gonna run upstairs 658 00:27:37,533 --> 00:27:38,363 -to see where Jay is. -Okay. 659 00:27:38,363 --> 00:27:39,900 -to see where Jay is. -Okay. 660 00:27:41,166 --> 00:27:43,533 Jay, I'm at the area now. 661 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,166 I'm gonna tap on a pipe, so tell me if you hear it. 662 00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:51,734 I don't hear it. 663 00:27:51,734 --> 00:27:53,166 Where the hell am I? 664 00:27:54,233 --> 00:27:59,333 So, do you see my flashlight coming through any window? 665 00:27:59,367 --> 00:28:02,333 -I've got a green light. -Yep, I see it. 666 00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:04,100 So, I'm directly to your right. 667 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,734 And to the right is a staircase. 668 00:28:05,734 --> 00:28:07,967 [Jason] I'm right on the other side of that. 669 00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:08,363 -[Jason tapping] -Yep. 670 00:28:08,363 --> 00:28:09,900 -[Jason tapping] -Yep. 671 00:28:11,367 --> 00:28:14,000 Yep, that used to be the access for here. 672 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,800 This staircase would have just maybe came straight up. 673 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,433 That's weird. 674 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,800 All right, you can head back out. 675 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,100 [Steve] Leaving the house, guys. 676 00:28:21,166 --> 00:28:22,166 [Dave] Copy that. 677 00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,266 Is somebody here 678 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,233 that doesn't want me here? 679 00:28:27,233 --> 00:28:32,000 Was this a room that somebody was put in to be kept here? 680 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,734 Or was this a room that somebody would 681 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,734 put themselves in to go into... 682 00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:38,363 ...seclusion? 683 00:28:38,363 --> 00:28:39,433 ...seclusion? 684 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:41,867 [Steve] It's just so weird they would just seal it off. 685 00:28:41,867 --> 00:28:43,467 [Jason] Maybe there's a reason. 686 00:28:43,467 --> 00:28:46,333 Maybe they wanted to forget what happened here. 687 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,533 Oh, hang on. 688 00:28:50,867 --> 00:28:53,333 -[crashing] -[bleep] 689 00:28:53,367 --> 00:28:55,967 -[Steve] What happened? -There was just a voice. 690 00:28:55,967 --> 00:28:57,333 It scared the [bleep] out of me. 691 00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,800 That camera can't come back up 692 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,533 because the crane's blocking the signal. 693 00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,000 [Steve] Did you just say something? 694 00:29:10,634 --> 00:29:13,266 There was just a weird, like, just a huh. 695 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:15,233 Wow. 696 00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:17,333 It sounded like it was, like, right in my ear. 697 00:29:19,734 --> 00:29:23,266 Are there any nuns here who used to live in this rectory? 698 00:29:27,967 --> 00:29:30,634 Were there any children that were kept here? 699 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,367 A little girl? 700 00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:36,433 Are you still here on the property? 701 00:29:41,467 --> 00:29:45,634 Father Mackey, you know, you built the cathedral that once stood here. 702 00:29:46,533 --> 00:29:48,433 Do you remember when the church burned down? 703 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:50,900 Nope. 704 00:29:52,967 --> 00:29:54,000 That was walking. 705 00:29:54,734 --> 00:29:56,533 That was 100% walking. 706 00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:58,533 Again. 707 00:29:59,967 --> 00:30:02,533 Can anybody tell us what this room was used for? 708 00:30:07,367 --> 00:30:08,363 That was, Steve, that was just a whisper. 709 00:30:08,363 --> 00:30:09,100 That was, Steve, that was just a whisper. 710 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100 Wow. 711 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,166 Holy [bleep]. 712 00:30:14,467 --> 00:30:16,000 Holy [bleep]. 713 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,100 Literally it was, like, if somebody's, like, kneeling down and praying 714 00:30:18,166 --> 00:30:20,634 and they're just, like, [indistinct] 715 00:30:20,634 --> 00:30:22,433 Maybe you're hearing the residual 716 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,467 of, you know, somebody repenting their sins 717 00:30:25,467 --> 00:30:26,734 -or something. -Yeah. 718 00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,500 I think I heard you praying. 719 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,166 What were you praying about? 720 00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:38,734 I'm gonna have to head out of here in a second. 721 00:30:44,533 --> 00:30:48,634 Irene, we are so sorry that you passed away so young 722 00:30:48,634 --> 00:30:51,367 leaving behind eight children and your husband. 723 00:30:52,533 --> 00:30:54,500 Are you still looking for your family? 724 00:30:56,166 --> 00:30:57,367 All you have to do... 725 00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:01,066 ...is come in front of this. 726 00:31:01,066 --> 00:31:02,433 [Shari] I just heard something. 727 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,433 -What did you hear? -Like a child going, "Da, da, da." 728 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,000 Oh, my God. 729 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Hello? 730 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:10,634 We think we might have heard you. 731 00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:13,545 [Shari] Is there anybody here that is willing to talk to us? 732 00:31:13,545 --> 00:31:15,367 [Shari] Is there anybody here that is willing to talk to us? 733 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,100 All right. That is a weird ass room. 734 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:27,433 Hey, how did that eerie room go? 735 00:31:27,433 --> 00:31:31,000 It's one of the strangest rooms that I've ever been to. 736 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,967 It definitely gave me a bad feeling. 737 00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:35,166 -Really? -I mean, at one point there was, like, somebody 738 00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:37,100 sitting down and praying. You know, like, [indistinct]. 739 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,634 -It scared the hell out of me. -Wow. 740 00:31:38,634 --> 00:31:41,266 On that note, Austin and me should probably head in. 741 00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:42,533 -Yeah. -Let's do it. 742 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,545 Steve for Dave. 743 00:31:43,545 --> 00:31:44,333 Steve for Dave. 744 00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:45,533 Go for Dave. 745 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Jay and Austin are heading upstairs 746 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,533 Why don't you and Dustin check out the basement? 747 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,800 Sheri and I will keep an eye on the monitors. 748 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,000 Copy that. 749 00:31:59,467 --> 00:32:01,333 -[Jason] You know what these are for? -[Austin] No. 750 00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,967 They're to ward off evil spirits, 751 00:32:03,967 --> 00:32:06,100 -and it's no joke. -Yes, sir. 752 00:32:13,634 --> 00:32:17,100 So this is Bishop Conroy's room? 753 00:32:17,166 --> 00:32:21,000 Yeah. Claims of a little girl apparition saying, "Help me." 754 00:32:21,734 --> 00:32:25,066 And people have seen Bishop Conroy. 755 00:32:25,066 --> 00:32:27,100 This is also where I felt something touch me. 756 00:32:29,734 --> 00:32:31,800 It felt like I just got touched on the arm. 757 00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:33,900 Oh, yeah, jeez. 758 00:32:35,266 --> 00:32:36,900 St. Mary's Cathedral. 759 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,166 -Did you look at this book? -No, I've never seen it. 760 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,266 So this is St. Mary's grade school 761 00:32:42,266 --> 00:32:43,545 way back in 1877. 762 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:44,333 way back in 1877. 763 00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:47,000 -Wasn't that the one that was built on the property? -Mmm-hmm. 764 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,367 It sounded like it was coming from upstairs in the attic. 765 00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:55,100 All right. 766 00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:58,900 I'll go first. I've lived a good life. 767 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:09,100 This is Dustin and Dave and we are in the basement. 768 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,533 This is where they've seen a shadow figure, 769 00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:13,545 and where we got that voice. 770 00:33:13,545 --> 00:33:15,634 and where we got that voice. 771 00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,800 -Ooh. -I heard that. 772 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:26,533 We're gonna set up a little toy here for you. 773 00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:30,100 And the idea is if you touch it, it should light up. 774 00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:36,000 [Dave] Father Foley, you built a small stone church. 775 00:33:36,867 --> 00:33:38,000 Are you here with us? 776 00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:43,545 Is there anybody here with us? 777 00:33:43,545 --> 00:33:43,734 Is there anybody here with us? 778 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,734 -[beeping] -Wow. 779 00:33:50,967 --> 00:33:54,166 Austin and Jason, the attic of Claire House, 780 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,900 claim some footsteps. 781 00:33:58,533 --> 00:33:59,900 What the hell was that? 782 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,634 [bleep] Was that a bat? 783 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,734 I didn't see anything. I heard that though. 784 00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:08,433 Austin, I'll use you as a human shield. 785 00:34:08,433 --> 00:34:11,100 No, Dad, I don't know if that was a bat. 786 00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:12,800 It's not funny. I'm... 787 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,545 -It's a little funny. -...seriously terrified of it. 788 00:34:13,545 --> 00:34:14,533 -It's a little funny. -...seriously terrified of it. 789 00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:20,266 Do you know if St. Mary's grade school... 790 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,900 Were there any children that were kept here? 791 00:34:36,867 --> 00:34:37,867 That was a click though. 792 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:39,533 Yeah, that sounded like a girl. 793 00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:40,634 It almost sounded like... 794 00:34:42,066 --> 00:34:43,467 ..."I see you." 795 00:34:43,467 --> 00:34:43,545 Oh, my God. 796 00:34:43,545 --> 00:34:44,533 Oh, my God. 797 00:34:50,066 --> 00:34:52,166 [Jason] Are there any children here? 798 00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:53,500 I think we heard you. 799 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,600 Do you like playing with people in the house? 800 00:34:58,467 --> 00:35:01,166 We're super-friendly. You don't have to be scared. 801 00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:04,166 I'm just not hearing anything now. 802 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,583 If anyone is here with us, can you tell us your name? 803 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:17,800 If anyone is here with us, can you tell us your name? 804 00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,166 Is anybody here that would like to communicate with us? 805 00:35:21,166 --> 00:35:22,967 Does anybody want to say hello or hi, 806 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,700 or make a knocking sound? 807 00:35:25,367 --> 00:35:26,967 Let us know that you're here, please. 808 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,734 [Jason] Hey, great night, everybody. 809 00:35:32,734 --> 00:35:34,000 It's time to put the lights on, 810 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,967 get wrapped up, and start analyzing stuff 811 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,433 so we can come up with some answers. 812 00:35:37,433 --> 00:35:39,000 Yep, we're leaving right now. 813 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,967 [Austin] The most memorable moment at the Claire House 814 00:35:48,967 --> 00:35:50,734 was probably investigating with my dad. 815 00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:53,233 The Hawes family has been chasing ghosts ever since I've been alive, 816 00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:54,967 so I wanna keep that tradition going. 817 00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,333 It's been a true pleasure having my son Austin out here 818 00:35:59,333 --> 00:36:01,000 and I look forward to having him 819 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,533 on many other investigations. 820 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,600 Hal and Rachel have brought us in 821 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,066 because they wanted to know that they're not crazy. 822 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,367 But we were able to document some of the experiences that they had, 823 00:36:12,367 --> 00:36:13,634 and now we've just got to figure out 824 00:36:13,634 --> 00:36:15,000 the best way to help them. 825 00:36:24,533 --> 00:36:27,800 [Jason] I think we got some answers doing our investigation, 826 00:36:27,867 --> 00:36:30,233 but I also think whatever's there 827 00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:32,800 -gave us some answers. -Oh, yeah. 828 00:36:32,867 --> 00:36:36,467 I'm really looking forward to talking with Hal and Rachel and their sons. 829 00:36:36,467 --> 00:36:39,266 -Hopefully this helps them and doesn't make it worse. -Mmm-hmm. 830 00:36:47,367 --> 00:36:49,333 -Thank you for having us out. -Thank you for coming. 831 00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,433 We had every area of this house 832 00:36:51,433 --> 00:36:54,233 completely covered from top to bottom with surveillance 833 00:36:54,266 --> 00:36:56,066 and of course all of our gadgetry. 834 00:36:56,066 --> 00:36:58,800 We actually even had some cadaver dogs 835 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,700 -come to the house here and see what they uncovered. -What? 836 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:03,066 Well, because there was a possibility 837 00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,333 of the Gardner family and others 838 00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,867 still being buried on the property. 839 00:37:06,867 --> 00:37:09,900 But it was inconclusive, so there could be remains on site. 840 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:11,166 I wasn't expecting that. 841 00:37:11,233 --> 00:37:12,900 We did do a lot of research 842 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,583 and did find two gentlemen that did pass on the property. 843 00:37:16,583 --> 00:37:17,433 and did find two gentlemen that did pass on the property. 844 00:37:17,433 --> 00:37:19,333 There was a Father Foley, 845 00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,867 and also there was a Father Mackey, 846 00:37:21,867 --> 00:37:25,233 -and he died in the church's parsonage. -[Rachel] Okay. 847 00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:27,166 There was an Irene Adams, 848 00:37:27,233 --> 00:37:28,900 the wife of the church caretaker. 849 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,166 She was a mother of eight. 850 00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:33,800 She ended up dying of pneumonia at the age of 32. 851 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,700 So we need to take that into consideration. 852 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:39,066 Could she be the skeleton woman seen here? Possibly. 853 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,433 You guys have seen the little girl. 854 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,600 -At one point there was a school on this property. -Oh. 855 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,583 So, the possibilities are endless as to who it could be. 856 00:37:46,583 --> 00:37:47,233 So, the possibilities are endless as to who it could be. 857 00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,266 All right, so this first piece 858 00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:50,700 and you had that hidden room that was in the back 859 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:52,533 and I went up, climbed through the window. 860 00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:54,967 I don't know why they would have closed it off. 861 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,634 Was it a place that somebody went to to get away from everybody? 862 00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:01,600 Or was it a place that somebody was put to keep away from everybody? 863 00:38:01,634 --> 00:38:02,900 But the fact that it was boarded up 864 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:04,800 -makes it pretty suspicious. -Right. 865 00:38:04,867 --> 00:38:06,367 Of course the room's taken a beating 866 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,433 throughout the years. 867 00:38:07,433 --> 00:38:09,367 I'm not sure, but while we were up there 868 00:38:09,367 --> 00:38:10,967 we had a lot of activity. 869 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,266 Like there was this weird sound that went huh, 870 00:38:13,266 --> 00:38:14,800 but then there was this whisper. 871 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,333 I'll play it for you. 872 00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:16,583 Can anybody tell us what this room was used for? 873 00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:18,900 Can anybody tell us what this room was used for? 874 00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:24,233 -I just heard it. -Yeah. 875 00:38:24,233 --> 00:38:26,800 Can anybody tell us what this room was used for? 876 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,333 -It sounded like somebody praying at their bed. -[Rachel] Oh, my God. 877 00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:36,233 I'm sure there's been so much praying in here 878 00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:38,533 in the 75 years that the priests lived here. 879 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,634 The team and I were investigating in the basement, 880 00:38:41,634 --> 00:38:45,066 and we introduced the altar stone. 881 00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,583 And we heard a voice. 882 00:38:46,583 --> 00:38:47,166 And we heard a voice. 883 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:48,266 What? 884 00:38:52,734 --> 00:38:53,967 I heard that. 885 00:38:53,967 --> 00:38:55,800 It almost sounds like, "Now I see her." 886 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,967 I heard that. 887 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,333 Now I can see? 888 00:39:03,367 --> 00:39:04,367 What do you think, Har? 889 00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:07,066 -I don't wanna think. -[all laughing] 890 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,166 But to really say what it's saying, is a bit hard. 891 00:39:10,233 --> 00:39:11,800 -But it's there. -[Rachel] Right. 892 00:39:11,867 --> 00:39:13,800 Sheri and I were downstairs in the basement, 893 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,233 and I didn't hear this voice sounding like a child 894 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:16,583 until later on when we were going through the evidence. 895 00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:18,800 until later on when we were going through the evidence. 896 00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:21,433 Can you tell us about your mom? 897 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:26,967 -I hear someone say mommy. -[Rachel] Ask your mom. 898 00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:29,533 -Yeah, like a British accent. -[Rachel] Wow. 899 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,266 Can you tell us about your mom? 900 00:39:34,533 --> 00:39:36,867 My son Austin and I, we were upstairs in the attic. 901 00:39:36,867 --> 00:39:38,467 It was a quick voice that happened. 902 00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:39,800 I wanna play it for you. 903 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,583 -I see you. -I see you, yeah! 904 00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:46,967 -I see you. -I see you, yeah! 905 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,100 It could be the little girl who was heard saying, "Help me." 906 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,333 That's freaking me out. Oh, my God. 907 00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,600 It makes me a little bit sad. 908 00:39:59,634 --> 00:40:02,266 -It's like a little child. -Yeah. 909 00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:05,333 And she could be behind my son being touched in the bishop's room. 910 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,900 Maybe she's close by. 911 00:40:09,734 --> 00:40:12,367 [Austin] It felt like I just got touched on my arm. 912 00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:14,800 In your opinion, is it okay for us to talk to her? 913 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,583 If you're okay with that sort of living history, um, yes. 914 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,000 If you're okay with that sort of living history, um, yes. 915 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,166 But that would also help keep her here as well. 916 00:40:21,233 --> 00:40:24,000 If you're acknowledging her, she has every reason to stay here. 917 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,066 If you're ignoring her, she'll probably move on and go somewhere else. 918 00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:29,800 -[Steve] But you don't get any, like, nefarious feeling? -No. 919 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,634 Could something nefarious have happened 920 00:40:31,634 --> 00:40:33,066 in the hidden room? Yes. 921 00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:35,600 But if there was something here negative, 922 00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:37,367 we didn't get any of that. 923 00:40:37,367 --> 00:40:39,233 -That's a load off, right? -Yeah. 924 00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:42,333 But you two guys, how do you feel about all of this? 925 00:40:42,333 --> 00:40:45,800 Because I know you were quite unsettled being in your rooms. 926 00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:46,583 I'm just glad we're not crazy. 927 00:40:46,583 --> 00:40:47,233 I'm just glad we're not crazy. 928 00:40:49,066 --> 00:40:52,233 Hopefully, this eases the reasons to be frightened. 929 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,333 -Good, good. -[Rachel] Oh, good. 930 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:57,800 [Rachel] If you guys aren't as afraid anymore 931 00:40:57,867 --> 00:40:59,600 that makes me feel better. Especially you Caleb, 932 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,233 -because your room was such a-- -[Jason] Hot spot. 933 00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:04,000 It was a hot spot for activity for you. 934 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,800 If you guys need anything, we're only a call away. 935 00:41:05,867 --> 00:41:07,333 -Thank you very much. -Thank you for having us. 936 00:41:07,367 --> 00:41:09,266 -We appreciate it. -Thank you guys both. 937 00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:11,166 -[Rachel] Oh, I feel much better. -Thank you. 938 00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:15,533 It's nice to know that it's not just us 939 00:41:15,533 --> 00:41:16,583 seeing and hearing these things. 940 00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:17,734 seeing and hearing these things. 941 00:41:17,734 --> 00:41:20,900 I'm so glad particularly that Caleb is gonna go back to his room. 942 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,333 I feel a tremendous amount of relief 943 00:41:24,367 --> 00:41:26,100 that I don't have to sell this house. 944 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,100 I'm definitely ready just to not be afraid here anymore 945 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,533 and maybe keep connecting 946 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,266 with whatever's sharing the house with us. 947 00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,634 You know, I thought they were gonna be afraid, 948 00:41:39,634 --> 00:41:41,533 but they were excited and happy. 949 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,066 Caleb's ready to take his room back. 950 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,967 -I know. -That's awesome. 951 00:41:44,967 --> 00:41:46,583 -[Steve] Having Dustin out was great. -Yeah. 952 00:41:46,583 --> 00:41:46,800 -[Steve] Having Dustin out was great. -Yeah. 953 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,000 Having Austin was phenomenal. 954 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,800 I mean, just being able to get out there with my son 955 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,066 -was awesome. -It was cool. 956 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,600 This was a great one. 957 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,734 I'll go the next, brother.