Can you see? The bones of a saint are in here.
Oh, I heard that.
That was as soon as we brought this out.
[narrator] A 19th century mansion with a religious past...
It was a rectory, so all the priests lived here.
[narrator] has TAPS enlisting a family member...
My son, Austin, this is going to be your first case.
I'll go first.
[bleep]
[narrator] ...to unlock chilling secrets.
There's a hidden room that they've never been into.
[Austin] It felt like I just got touched.
Oh, wow.
What the hell is that?
Holy [bleep].
It was just a whisper, like somebody is kneeling down and praying.
Whoa.
So, Ogdensburg, New York, man. The Claire house.
If you're thinking of a haunted mansion, it's this house.
Yeah.
[narrator] TAPS is in Ogdensburg, New York,
to investigate the Claire house,
which was built in the 1880s,
as a residence for the priest from a neighboring cathedral that has since burned down.
Dustin, always great having you here, man.
Thank you, sir. Always a pleasure, brother.
And my son, Austin, this is going to be your first case joining us.
Yeah, I'm excited.
-I remember when Austin was this. -Yeah.
-Now he's... and this. -Yeah, crazy.
Now, Hal and Rachel Kench, they own the Claire house.
They bought it in 2019.
Yeah, I know that they've been doing some renovations.
With that, they've been experiencing all this crazy activity
and not just them.
They have two teenage boys who have experienced a bunch of crazy things.
They're scared.
Yeah, you just don't want your children to be scared going home.
Right. I agree.
They're seeing the apparition of a priest.
The apparition of
a woman that looks skeletal.
Skeletal.
There is also claims of seeing an apparition of a little girl.
-A lot of different sound phenomena. -Yeah.
I'm hoping that we can help this family out.
There's no book on what to do when you buy a haunted house.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wow, this is it.
Wow.
That's a good sized house.
-Yeah, it is. -Yeah.
[narrator] TAPS case. Claire house. Ogdensburg, New York.
-Well, hey. Thanks for having us out. -Thanks for coming.
Hi, so nice to meet you. Thanks for coming out.
-Harry. -What's up?
-Caleb. -Hey.
-Wow, what a beautiful house. -Thank you.
-And you all took ownership 2019. -Yep, correct.
What's some of the history of the actual house?
[Hal] It was built in 1884.
It was originally the rectory for the cathedral next door.
So all the priests lived here.
Then that church burned in '47.
[narrator] St. Mary's Cathedral was destroyed
but miraculously, the rectory survived
and remained home to several priests
including Bishop Joseph Conroy
who had overseen the rectory's construction.
He lived there for 37 years.
Around 1960, all priests living at the rectory
were relocated to a nearby residence
built at the new cathedral's location.
Then the rectory became a residence
for the grey nuns of the sacred heart.
In 2005, the nuns moved away and the rectory became a privately-owned home.
It was not maintained and fell into disrepair.
In 2019, the former rectory and surrounding land
was purchased by the Kench family.
The minute we drove past, I was like, that's our house. We need to buy it.
-So you just felt drawn to it? -100%.
But then, when you got the house,
you felt like you're just not welcomed here?
-Correct. -Okay.
-And you bought this as a second home, right? -Yep.
Once Harry graduates from high school,
-we're going to live up here full-time. -Okay.
And if this stuff continues to be as frightening as it is,
we have to sell this house. Like, I can't live here.
-Gotcha. -Okay.
I mean, with all this renovation,
what have you come across in this house?
A lot of hidden doors.
-We actually have a hidden room. -Oh, wow.
[Rachel] If you're on the outside of what looks like a second floor, right?
There's two windows but we can't find a way to get into it.
-Nobody's been in there. -[Hal] We've never gone in.
-Are you okay if we try to... -Absolutely, yeah.
Do you know if anybody has ever passed away in the home?
We don't know about passing away here.
But underneath the cathedral, a couple of the bishops were buried.
Then there was also a family and their last name was Gardner.
For some reason, they were also buried in the crypt.
But when the cathedral burned in 1947,
they moved the bodies of the priests and the bishops
to the crypt at the new St. Mary's.
But allegedly, they never took out the Gardner family.
Do you know anything about the Gardners?
My thought was maybe they give a lot of money to the church. I don't know, though.
So what kind of things have you guys been experiencing?
It was late at night, everybody else was asleep
and I was walking down the first floor.
And I see in the doorway of the dining room, this big shadowy figure.
And a funny hat. And then he just fades away.
-Did it scare you? -I was horrified.
Okay, all right.
[narrator] Caleb has also encountered a terrifying apparition
in his second floor bedroom.
I was trying to fall asleep and I just got this distinct feeling
I was, like, being watched.
So I looked over, and in the corner of my room, there's this skeletal figure
of a woman wearing, like, a black dress.
Floating, almost, towards my bed, and I was paralyzed.
He doesn't sleep in that room anymore.
Wow. Okay.
Okay. Have you seen anything else on the second floor?
Oh, yeah.
I was in my room and my doorknob was jingling.
So I step outside my door
and I kind of do a double take,
because behind the corner of the stairs,
I see this little girl looking right at me.
And she was gone.
[narrator] Harry is not the only person
to see the little girl on the second floor.
Our son, who at the time had just turned five years old,
came downstairs and he said, mom, where'd that little girl go?
What little girl? Because there's no other children here.
And he's like, the little girl with a guy.
And my uncle had heard him and he was like, where did you see them?
So he brought us up into the bishop's room.
And he said, "She just kept saying help me, help me."
[narrator] In the attic and throughout the house, footsteps
and loud banging sounds have been heard.
So if you guys could say one area of this house is the most active,
where would you say that area would be?
The basement.
For the longest time, Rachel wouldn't even go in the basement.
[narrator] In the basement, ominous shadow figures have been seen.
It's also where the family made their most shocking discovery.
So we found this stone
and it's got crosses all over it
and then it's kind of charred-looking.
-Charred? -Yeah.
Do you think maybe it spent time at the cathedral and caught fire?
-Yeah. -We think it was the actual altar stone.
An altar stone actually has the bones of two saints in it.
Have you guys ever thought about removing it from the property
to see if the activity stops?
-No. -I feel like it belongs here.
[Hal] I feel like it needs to stay here.
What are you hoping that we're able to accomplish here?
Prove that we're not crazy. Hopefully, provide some answers.
Could we do something to make the energy feel not as frightening?
It's like, are we in denial?
Am I being a horrible mother, forcing my kids to come stay in this house?
Well, I think from here, we're going to go start figuring out how to set up.
-Thank you, guys, so much. -A lot of great information.
Well, thank you, guys. Talk to you soon, then.
-Right. -You got it.
-All righty. -Hey.
-So, it went well. -Yeah.
There's been a lot of creepy things that have been going on in this house.
The boys do not want to be here.
-One actually changed rooms. -Really?
Do you think the boys are all seeing it much more than the parents
because of their age?
That's very possible. We know that children are more prone to see things than adults.
And they found an altar stone
and there's actually the bones of a saint in it.
What?
-And it's still in the basement. -Oh, wow.
So that could be a great trigger object.
That's cool.
Also, there's a hidden room that they've never been into.
Ooh.
-Somebody, like, sealed it off? Why? -Exactly. Why?
-That's cool. -We're going to find a way to access it.
Oh, love that.
-I think we should start getting going, here. -Okay.
Let's do it.
Rachel and her husband, Hal, have called us because they are afraid
and the kids won't even stay in their rooms.
I'm looking forward to actually spending some time investigating
with my son, Austin.
This is the first investigation he's ever been on
but he's been raised in a household
where the paranormal was the normal.
Let's go forward a bit, if we can.
My dad's always taught me not to ever be scared of the paranormal
and it's more of a mystery and not a fear.
I hope we find out what's in there,
giving the family a little bit more comfort.
All right, guys. That's all angles, thank you.
All right. We have cameras everywhere.
You know, the first floor.
The parlor.
We have the second floor hall.
Harry and Caleb's rooms, because they're both terrified.
Yeah.
We have Bishop Conroy's room, where they've seen him and also a girl,
we have one in the attic
the basement.
This looks awesome.
Let's get the lights out and get ready to investigate.
All right.
So Austin, Steve, you guys take the attic.
Yeah.
-Shari and I will start in the basement. -All right.
-We'll hold down the fort, here. -Thanks, guys.
They should be coming in there in a moment.
So here we go to the attic, huh?
Okay. Ooh.
Austin and Steve are in the attic,
where the claims are footsteps and bangs.
-Let's go in there. -Yeah.
That's what I like to do first is just wander around and feel the space out.
Yeah.
Hello?
We know about the fire that happened.
There's a family who lives in here, now.
Whoa.
Sounded like a door and it kicked.
Let's go.
Hello?
Jay and Shari are in the basement
where they hear footsteps and also they've seen a shadow figure.
What are these?
Were these here for storage or confessional?
Oh, right.
Or somebody was kept down here.
Oh, my gosh.
-It was just... -Was it a voice?
Yeah. It sounded like a girl.
Oh my God.
[Shari] Is there a little girl in here?
[Jason] Can you tell us about your mom?
Yeah, it's somebody walking upstairs.
Jay to Dave?
Dave.
Dave, is there anybody on the first floor?
There's nobody in there.
100% somebody walking.
Holy crap.
-We both heard footsteps. -Oh, yeah. Definitely.
I say we follow those footsteps and head to the next floor.
Yeah.
We know there's a little girl.
Maybe if that was you walking, maybe you'll come talk to us.
Are you trying to get our attention?
Can you make some more noise for us?
What's that?
This is a laser grid.
So anything with mass that moves in front of it,
this will detect it.
We heard about everybody that lived up here.
All of the nuns.
Everybody knows who Bishop Conroy is, right?
Whoa.
Wow.
Something walking.
It was kind of just all around us for a minute.
I think whatever's up here does not want to be in the same room as us.
Jay and Shari are in the parlor room
where the claims are they hear footsteps.
That's what we were just hearing.
Yeah.
[Shari] We're in the dining room.
The son, Harry, thought that he saw a man that looked like Bishop Conroy.
We were told that there was a gentleman that walks around this house.
If the bishop is here, why is there a room upstairs that was closed off?
Did something happen in that room?
What the hell was that?
That literally looked like somebody moved by me.
[bleep]
[Shari] Are there any priests with us who once lived here when it was a rectory?
Hello?
That camera's right on us. I want to check that out.
Jay to TAPS.
Shari and I want to check out the security cameras.
So Tango, why don't you and Steve head to the basement.
Copy that.
Austin and Dustin, you two take the second floor.
Ten four.
[Austin] I feel like my dad doing this.
[Dustin] But you're younger and you have hair.
[Austin] Yeah, I don't pop whenever I move.
[laughs]
This is Dustin and Austin.
The second floor of the Claire house.
This is Caleb's room.
-He won't sleep in this room. -Yeah.
Caleb says he saw the skeletal woman.
Is there a woman that looks very thin here?
I'm 18. I'm almost the same age as Caleb.
Do younger people have an easier time seeing you?
Is there a woman in a dress here?
This room's pretty quiet. You want to go check out somewhere else?
Yeah.
I've been wanting to investigate the bishop room.
All right. The bishop's room.
Claims of seeing apparitions of both a child and the bishop.
Hello?
If you're here, could you maybe tap one of us on the hand or the shoulder?
We'd really appreciate if you can make yourself known.
You don't have to be scared of us.
Both the bishop and the little girl would have had to be...
-You okay? -Yeah, it's cold.
I'm getting, like, the chills.
Oh, wow.
So maybe she's close by.
It felt like I just got touched on the arm.
That's crazy.
Steve and Tango. We're in the basement.
This is where they've seen a shadow figure.
Is anyone here from the Gardner family?
Heard that you were left on the property after the cathedral burned down.
That's where that altar stone is.
Okay. I'm going to grab it.
Just be very careful. Two hands, take your time.
Be careful.
Look at this..
That must be where they put the bones.
I wonder if that's what's causing the unrest.
Just that. Like, it needs to be in a proper place.
Do you know what we found?
An altar stone and the bones of a saint are in here.
The family here, they want to do the right thing.
What should they do?
I heard that.
Sounds like a voice, Dave.
I agree.
It was as soon as we brought this out.
God have mercy.
Hello?
We heard you.
Can you see what I'm holding, here?
We're not going to take it,
we just want to know what the family should do with it.
If the little girl is here, can you tell us your name?
Did you touch me?
You can do it again.
Would you like to sit up on the bed next to Austin, there?
Hey, guys. I think it's time to wrap right now.
Copy that.
I don't like this bed.
I've never experienced that in my life.
Ceremonial first investigation.
No-look high five in three, two and one.
-We're out. -Well done, sir.
-Hey, guys. -Hey.
So Austin, how was your first night investigating?
-Yeah. -I felt something touch me.
Ooh.
It's crazy. I want to know why.
I don't know if we'll ever know why.
-Yeah. -But at least we know more.
-Absolutely. -Tomorrow, I'll have a meeting with the local historian.
And Dustin, if you want to come with me?
Yeah, that'd be great. Of course.
-And I was able to get a lift. -Oh, yeah.
So we can get up to the hidden room.
That's a great idea.
And they did say that they believe
the Gardner family is still buried on the grounds.
Maybe we should see about getting some cadaver dogs out here
and just seeing if there's any truth behind that.
Yeah.
Let's get out of here and get started early.
-All right, let's do it. -Good job, guys.
Take a listen to this.
This is when Shari and I were in the basement
I say, "Can you tell us about your mom?"
And there's this quick voice
that I couldn't make out till now.
While Austin and I review last night's evidence...
[high-pitched voice]
Yeah, that sounds like a little girl.
It does.
[vehicle beeping]
Tango and Steve bring in the lift
needed to access the hidden room tonight.
And Shari and Dustin
head to the Ogdensburg Public Library
to meet local historian, Julie Madlin.
Hi. Shari.
Hi. Julie.
Hi, Julie, I'm Dustin.
-Hi. -[Dustin] Pleased to meet you.
[Shari] Now, with the Claire House,
could you tell us about the history of that property?
Yes.
[Julie] Around 1835,
Father Foley built a small stone church
near where Claire House is today,
and he actually died in his home,
which was also on that property.
Okay.
Then Father Mackey came to Ogdensburg.
Um, he oversaw the construction
of St. Mary's Cathedral.
And does he pass away on the property as well,
-do we know, Father Mackey? -Yes.
[Dustin] Oh, okay.
[Julie] They were buried in the crypt at the cathedral.
Also buried at the crypt at the old St. Mary's Cathedral
-were the Gardner family. -[Dustin] Right.
[Julie] They were a wealthy family.
They purchased the land for the church.
[Dustin] Oh, okay.
-[Shari] That explains why they're buried there. -[Julie] Yes.
[Dustin] And is it correct that the Gardners
were not moved to the new cathedral
with Father Mackey and Foley?
I did not find documents that tell me that they were moved.
-[Shari] Okay. -[Julie] Yeah.
Do you know of any other deaths on the property?
Matthew Adams and his wife,
Irene Amo Adams,
took care of the property.
They had eight children.
-And they would have lived on the property as well? -Yes.
And Mrs. Adams at the age of 32
died of pneumonia.
[Shari] Oh, my God.
-[Dustin] Poor kids. -[Julie] Basically, tore the family apart.
[Shari] Oh, my gosh.
Um, and this was in 1935.
Oh, wow!
So, did any children die on the property?
No children that I'm aware of,
but there's always the possibility,
and there also was a small parochial school on that site
built around 1862.
That's something to consider.
[Shari] Absolutely.
Well, thank you so much for a lot of information.
We really appreciate it.
My pleasure.
Good, boy! Good boy.
Drop!
Hi, Nina.
-[Nina] Hi! -Hi!
-Jason Hawes, how are ya? -Nice to meet you.
Beautiful dog.
[Nina] This is Kevlar.
-Kevlar! -Cool.
So, there's local legend
that there was a family buried here.
Do you have a defined area you want me to search?
[Jason] Pretty much this field.
There used to be a cathedral up here, so,
we're just trying to see if there's any truth to this.
Okay.
You've had a lot of great results
-with Kevlar in the past? -Yeah.
-All right, well, let's do it. -Yeah. It's exciting.
[Nina] Come here. Sit.
[Jason] So, what kind of signal are we looking for?
[Nina] When Kev finds something,
he will do really intense sniffing.
[Jason] Oh, okay. All right.
Locking on to something.
Do they have different signals for an animal
or if it's a human?
He is only trained to locate human remains.
Gotcha.
[Jason] How'd he go?
[Nina] There is a couple spots where he slowed down
and returned to a couple of times,
but I would say that it's a little bit inconclusive.
With a dog like this,
is there an idea of how deep it can sense down to?
We know that they can find skeletal remains
several feet underground.
Oh, okay.
But two areas of interest at least.
Yes.
I think it'll help them to know it isn't definitive.
-Right. -Thank you very much.
You're very welcome.
[Jason] You have a great day now. This was great.
-Bye, Kevlar! -Bye, Kev.
[Jason] Hey.
-'Sup, boss. -What's up, guys.
[Jason] Hey, guys.
So, anything on the Gardner family?
[Shari] Yes.
They were the original owners who gave up this land.
-Oh! -Oh, wow!
So, they were buried in the crypt,
but nobody knows if they were actually removed from the crypt.
Could be where that dog did some slight hits.
That's true.
So, Father Foley died in 1839
-in his home that was behind the church. -Mmm-hmm.
[Shari] And that's no longer there.
So, that's one confirmed death on the property.
Okay.
And then Father James Mackey built St. Mary's Cathedral,
and did pass away on the property.
-Okay. -[Steve] Okay.
Also, there was just adjacent to this building,
a caretaker's house.
Unfortunately, the caretaker's wife,
uh, Irene Amo Adams,
she passed away leaving her eight children here...
-[Steve] Mmm. -...uh, with just her husband.
The Adams family then moved off the property.
[Steve] I wonder if Irene Adams
is the skeleton woman looking for her children.
You know, that is some emotion
that we don't understand, you know?
Yeah.
So, I think there's some good information here.
-We got the lift in... -[Steve] Mmm-hmm.
...so, we're gonna be able to try to access that hidden room.
[Steve] Yeah.
Was there anything on that?
She said that's where they put all the bats from the house.
All in that one room.
[all laughing]
All right, let's get into this hidden room.
[Steve] Yeah, let's get that lift going.
Good job, guys.
[Jason] We now have names of three people who died on the property,
and could be behind the activity experienced.
Father Foley and Mackey,
as well as the caretaker's wife, Irene Adams,
whose sudden death left behind eight devastated children.
We also learned about a Catholic school
that once stood on this land
that may have connection to the little girl seen.
All right, let's do this.
-See you guys. -See ya. Bye.
Where do you wanna sit?
[Jason] We're gonna start tonight's investigation
with Austin and Dustin at the monitors
watching for any activity.
[Jason] Woo-hoo!
[Steve] Oh, this makes me nervous, Jay.
[Jason] Steve will help me break into that secret hidden room
that can only be accessed through this high window,
and Tango and Shari will investigate the second floor.
[Dave] This is Dave and Shari. We're i on the second floor.
They've seen a little girl in multiple areas.
Possibly Bishop Conroy
and also the skeletal woman.
[Shari] I'm gonna put this here,
-so, all you have to do is come close to this antenna... -[antenna beeping]
[Shari] ...then those lights will come on,
-and then there's music. -[antenna beeping]
[Shari] Okay.
Irene, have you remained on the property?
Are you the skeletal woman that's been seen?
Whether you mean to or not...
...you're scaring the family that lives here now.
[Shari] If someone is here,
can you touch that piece of equipment that's on the ground?
[Dave] Ooh.
-[Antenna whistling] -[Shari] Oh, my gosh.
[Steve] Okay, everything's powered-up.
[lift whirring]
Wow!
That's way higher than I could go.
It's terrifying.
[Jason] All right.
[Steve] Oh, God, Jay.
[Jason] These windows are nailed shut.
[Steve] Wow.
I've never seen this on an investigation.
Very slow, calculated moves, Jay.
[Jason] No matter what happens...
...I love you like a brother.
[Steve] Thank you, I love you too.
[Jason] [bleep]!
[Jason] I'm in.
He's in.
Oh, my heart. God have mercy.
[Jason] I'm gonna send you a video.
All right, so, this is what we're up against.
[Steve] Whoa!
[Jason] This room's taken serious beatings
throughout the years.
[Steve] Wow.
[Jason] Look at the floor.
There's debris everywhere.
The ceiling is shot.
[Steve] Wow!
[Jason] I'm gonna flip this thing over so I can see.
We have a main line.
So, there's a toilet,
there's a sink,
I'm looking at old lead piping.
That is the original doorway.
That's the small hole in the door.
[Steve] I mean, that could have been used as a food pass.
It really could have.
Do you wanna head in to figure out where
the other side of the wall is?
That's a great idea.
This is Steve for Tango and Sheri.
Go for Tango and Sheri.
I'm just gonna run upstairs
-to see where Jay is. -Okay.
Jay, I'm at the area now.
I'm gonna tap on a pipe, so tell me if you hear it.
I don't hear it.
Where the hell am I?
So, do you see my flashlight coming through any window?
-I've got a green light. -Yep, I see it.
So, I'm directly to your right.
And to the right is a staircase.
[Jason] I'm right on the other side of that.
-[Jason tapping] -Yep.
Yep, that used to be the access for here.
This staircase would have just maybe came straight up.
That's weird.
All right, you can head back out.
[Steve] Leaving the house, guys.
[Dave] Copy that.
Is somebody here
that doesn't want me here?
Was this a room that somebody was put in to be kept here?
Or was this a room that somebody would
put themselves in to go into...
...seclusion?
[Steve] It's just so weird they would just seal it off.
[Jason] Maybe there's a reason.
Maybe they wanted to forget what happened here.
Oh, hang on.
-[crashing] -[bleep]
-[Steve] What happened? -There was just a voice.
It scared the [bleep] out of me.
That camera can't come back up
because the crane's blocking the signal.
[Steve] Did you just say something?
There was just a weird, like, just a huh.
Wow.
It sounded like it was, like, right in my ear.
Are there any nuns here who used to live in this rectory?
Were there any children that were kept here?
A little girl?
Are you still here on the property?
Father Mackey, you know, you built the cathedral that once stood here.
Do you remember when the church burned down?
Nope.
That was walking.
That was 100% walking.
Again.
Can anybody tell us what this room was used for?
That was, Steve, that was just a whisper.
Wow.
Holy [bleep].
Literally it was, like, if somebody's, like, kneeling down and praying
and they're just, like, [indistinct]
Maybe you're hearing the residual
of, you know, somebody repenting their sins
-or something. -Yeah.
I think I heard you praying.
What were you praying about?
I'm gonna have to head out of here in a second.
Irene, we are so sorry that you passed away so young
leaving behind eight children and your husband.
Are you still looking for your family?
All you have to do...
...is come in front of this.
[Shari] I just heard something.
-What did you hear? -Like a child going, "Da, da, da."
Oh, my God.
Hello?
We think we might have heard you.
[Shari] Is there anybody here that is willing to talk to us?
All right. That is a weird ass room.
Hey, how did that eerie room go?
It's one of the strangest rooms that I've ever been to.
It definitely gave me a bad feeling.
-Really? -I mean, at one point there was, like, somebody
sitting down and praying. You know, like, [indistinct].
-It scared the hell out of me. -Wow.
On that note, Austin and me should probably head in.
-Yeah. -Let's do it.
Steve for Dave.
Go for Dave.
Jay and Austin are heading upstairs
Why don't you and Dustin check out the basement?
Sheri and I will keep an eye on the monitors.
Copy that.
-[Jason] You know what these are for? -[Austin] No.
They're to ward off evil spirits,
-and it's no joke. -Yes, sir.
So this is Bishop Conroy's room?
Yeah. Claims of a little girl apparition saying, "Help me."
And people have seen Bishop Conroy.
This is also where I felt something touch me.
It felt like I just got touched on the arm.
Oh, yeah, jeez.
St. Mary's Cathedral.
-Did you look at this book? -No, I've never seen it.
So this is St. Mary's grade school
way back in 1877.
-Wasn't that the one that was built on the property? -Mmm-hmm.
It sounded like it was coming from upstairs in the attic.
All right.
I'll go first. I've lived a good life.
This is Dustin and Dave and we are in the basement.
This is where they've seen a shadow figure,
and where we got that voice.
-Ooh. -I heard that.
We're gonna set up a little toy here for you.
And the idea is if you touch it, it should light up.
[Dave] Father Foley, you built a small stone church.
Are you here with us?
Is there anybody here with us?
-[beeping] -Wow.
Austin and Jason, the attic of Claire House,
claim some footsteps.
What the hell was that?
[bleep] Was that a bat?
I didn't see anything. I heard that though.
Austin, I'll use you as a human shield.
No, Dad, I don't know if that was a bat.
It's not funny. I'm...
-It's a little funny. -...seriously terrified of it.
Do you know if St. Mary's grade school...
Were there any children that were kept here?
That was a click though.
Yeah, that sounded like a girl.
It almost sounded like...
..."I see you."
Oh, my God.
[Jason] Are there any children here?
I think we heard you.
Do you like playing with people in the house?
We're super-friendly. You don't have to be scared.
I'm just not hearing anything now.
If anyone is here with us, can you tell us your name?
Is anybody here that would like to communicate with us?
Does anybody want to say hello or hi,
or make a knocking sound?
Let us know that you're here, please.
[Jason] Hey, great night, everybody.
It's time to put the lights on,
get wrapped up, and start analyzing stuff
so we can come up with some answers.
Yep, we're leaving right now.
[Austin] The most memorable moment at the Claire House
was probably investigating with my dad.
The Hawes family has been chasing ghosts ever since I've been alive,
so I wanna keep that tradition going.
It's been a true pleasure having my son Austin out here
and I look forward to having him
on many other investigations.
Hal and Rachel have brought us in
because they wanted to know that they're not crazy.
But we were able to document some of the experiences that they had,
and now we've just got to figure out
the best way to help them.
[Jason] I think we got some answers doing our investigation,
but I also think whatever's there
-gave us some answers. -Oh, yeah.
I'm really looking forward to talking with Hal and Rachel and their sons.
-Hopefully this helps them and doesn't make it worse. -Mmm-hmm.
-Thank you for having us out. -Thank you for coming.
We had every area of this house
completely covered from top to bottom with surveillance
and of course all of our gadgetry.
We actually even had some cadaver dogs
-come to the house here and see what they uncovered. -What?
Well, because there was a possibility
of the Gardner family and others
still being buried on the property.
But it was inconclusive, so there could be remains on site.
I wasn't expecting that.
We did do a lot of research
and did find two gentlemen that did pass on the property.
There was a Father Foley,
and also there was a Father Mackey,
-and he died in the church's parsonage. -[Rachel] Okay.
There was an Irene Adams,
the wife of the church caretaker.
She was a mother of eight.
She ended up dying of pneumonia at the age of 32.
So we need to take that into consideration.
Could she be the skeleton woman seen here? Possibly.
You guys have seen the little girl.
-At one point there was a school on this property. -Oh.
So, the possibilities are endless as to who it could be.
All right, so this first piece
and you had that hidden room that was in the back
and I went up, climbed through the window.
I don't know why they would have closed it off.
Was it a place that somebody went to to get away from everybody?
Or was it a place that somebody was put to keep away from everybody?
But the fact that it was boarded up
-makes it pretty suspicious. -Right.
Of course the room's taken a beating
throughout the years.
I'm not sure, but while we were up there
we had a lot of activity.
Like there was this weird sound that went huh,
but then there was this whisper.
I'll play it for you.
Can anybody tell us what this room was used for?
-I just heard it. -Yeah.
Can anybody tell us what this room was used for?
-It sounded like somebody praying at their bed. -[Rachel] Oh, my God.
I'm sure there's been so much praying in here
in the 75 years that the priests lived here.
The team and I were investigating in the basement,
and we introduced the altar stone.
And we heard a voice.
What?
I heard that.
It almost sounds like, "Now I see her."
I heard that.
Now I can see?
What do you think, Har?
-I don't wanna think. -[all laughing]
But to really say what it's saying, is a bit hard.
-But it's there. -[Rachel] Right.
Sheri and I were downstairs in the basement,
and I didn't hear this voice sounding like a child
until later on when we were going through the evidence.
Can you tell us about your mom?
-I hear someone say mommy. -[Rachel] Ask your mom.
-Yeah, like a British accent. -[Rachel] Wow.
Can you tell us about your mom?
My son Austin and I, we were upstairs in the attic.
It was a quick voice that happened.
I wanna play it for you.
-I see you. -I see you, yeah!
It could be the little girl who was heard saying, "Help me."
That's freaking me out. Oh, my God.
It makes me a little bit sad.
-It's like a little child. -Yeah.
And she could be behind my son being touched in the bishop's room.
Maybe she's close by.
[Austin] It felt like I just got touched on my arm.
In your opinion, is it okay for us to talk to her?
If you're okay with that sort of living history, um, yes.
But that would also help keep her here as well.
If you're acknowledging her, she has every reason to stay here.
If you're ignoring her, she'll probably move on and go somewhere else.
-[Steve] But you don't get any, like, nefarious feeling? -No.
Could something nefarious have happened
in the hidden room? Yes.
But if there was something here negative,
we didn't get any of that.
-That's a load off, right? -Yeah.
But you two guys, how do you feel about all of this?
Because I know you were quite unsettled being in your rooms.
I'm just glad we're not crazy.
Hopefully, this eases the reasons to be frightened.
-Good, good. -[Rachel] Oh, good.
[Rachel] If you guys aren't as afraid anymore
that makes me feel better. Especially you Caleb,
-because your room was such a-- -[Jason] Hot spot.
It was a hot spot for activity for you.
If you guys need anything, we're only a call away.
-Thank you very much. -Thank you for having us.
-We appreciate it. -Thank you guys both.
-[Rachel] Oh, I feel much better. -Thank you.
It's nice to know that it's not just us
seeing and hearing these things.
I'm so glad particularly that Caleb is gonna go back to his room.
I feel a tremendous amount of relief
that I don't have to sell this house.
I'm definitely ready just to not be afraid here anymore
and maybe keep connecting
with whatever's sharing the house with us.
You know, I thought they were gonna be afraid,
but they were excited and happy.
Caleb's ready to take his room back.
-I know. -That's awesome.
-[Steve] Having Dustin out was great. -Yeah.
Having Austin was phenomenal.
I mean, just being able to get out there with my son
-was awesome. -It was cool.
This was a great one.
I'll go the next, brother.