1 00:00:01,917 --> 00:00:04,916 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,917 --> 00:00:12,083 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:16,916 [tense music] 4 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:23,250 ♪ ♪ 5 00:00:23,375 --> 00:00:28,416 - We have been screaming, justice for Rob Cobain. 6 00:00:28,417 --> 00:00:30,416 Screaming it. I'm screaming it. 7 00:00:30,417 --> 00:00:32,707 Justice. 8 00:00:32,708 --> 00:00:34,082 [Corey] He was an artist. 9 00:00:34,083 --> 00:00:36,499 He worked, supported his kids. 10 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,583 No criminal history whatsoever. 11 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:41,500 And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment, 12 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:43,957 for no reason that we have been able to find. 13 00:00:43,958 --> 00:00:45,833 ♪ ♪ 14 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:48,250 It's not just a homicide case anymore. 15 00:00:48,375 --> 00:00:50,124 I take it personal that this is sitting 16 00:00:50,125 --> 00:00:51,667 unsolved on my name. 17 00:00:51,792 --> 00:00:54,582 ♪ ♪ 18 00:00:54,583 --> 00:00:57,125 - Detective Shaffer, he was passionate about this case, 19 00:00:57,250 --> 00:01:00,250 but he got promoted and put back on the road. 20 00:01:00,375 --> 00:01:02,917 So I'm gonna pick up where he left off. 21 00:01:03,042 --> 00:01:05,042 ♪ ♪ 22 00:01:05,208 --> 00:01:06,707 [Linda] He was a beacon of light. 23 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:09,125 No matter where you saw him, he was smiling. 24 00:01:09,292 --> 00:01:11,374 He was always encouraging. 25 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:14,167 And his biggest thing was unity. 26 00:01:14,292 --> 00:01:16,875 [Arielle] He loved music, and he loved his kids. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,082 That was his life. 28 00:01:19,083 --> 00:01:21,249 - He was a fan of all music. 29 00:01:21,250 --> 00:01:24,375 Kurt Cobain, that was one of his idols. 30 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:28,457 And he took that moniker, and thus Rob Cobain was born. 31 00:01:28,458 --> 00:01:30,750 He was just a phenomenal artist. 32 00:01:30,875 --> 00:01:35,791 But as a father and an artist, his story got cut short. 33 00:01:35,792 --> 00:01:39,208 [Arielle] He definitely did not deserve this. 34 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,374 We're all just so heartbroken. 35 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:43,041 [Rob] ♪ I must be Captain Planet ♪ 36 00:01:43,042 --> 00:01:44,667 ♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪ 37 00:01:44,792 --> 00:01:46,207 ♪ My little heart is damaged ♪ 38 00:01:46,208 --> 00:01:49,207 ♪ Heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪ 39 00:01:49,208 --> 00:01:50,707 ♪ I'm heartbroken, heartbroken ♪ 40 00:01:50,708 --> 00:01:52,082 ♪ Whoo ♪ 41 00:01:52,083 --> 00:01:54,292 [music winds down, stops] 42 00:01:55,167 --> 00:01:58,000 [tense music] 43 00:01:58,125 --> 00:02:01,292 ♪ ♪ 44 00:02:09,292 --> 00:02:10,749 [Narrator] In North Charleston's 45 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:12,500 Forest Hills neighborhood, 46 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:17,083 the property manager of an apartment complex calls 911. 47 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:18,833 [line ringing] 48 00:02:41,542 --> 00:02:44,542 [siren wailing] 49 00:02:44,708 --> 00:02:47,542 [dramatic music] 50 00:02:47,708 --> 00:02:51,582 ♪ ♪ 51 00:02:51,583 --> 00:02:53,208 [Officer] Is that your apartment? 52 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:55,875 [Officer] Do we know whose apartment that is? 53 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:05,000 115 to dispatch, this appears to be a shooting. 54 00:03:05,125 --> 00:03:07,167 I'm clearing the apartment. 55 00:03:07,292 --> 00:03:08,833 North Charleston Police Department. 56 00:03:08,958 --> 00:03:14,000 ♪ ♪ 57 00:03:14,125 --> 00:03:15,708 Hey, EMS, you guys are clear. 58 00:03:15,875 --> 00:03:18,208 ♪ ♪ 59 00:03:18,333 --> 00:03:20,583 [indistinct police radio chatter] 60 00:03:20,708 --> 00:03:21,708 Check on him. 61 00:03:26,208 --> 00:03:27,500 [Officer] OK. 62 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,417 115 to dispatch, this can be a confirmed 10-7. 63 00:03:36,208 --> 00:03:39,417 [clock ticking] 64 00:03:43,958 --> 00:03:45,333 [Detective] 232 en route, arrived. 65 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:46,916 [Dispatcher] 232. 66 00:03:46,917 --> 00:03:48,458 [Corey] Detectives on scene. 67 00:03:54,042 --> 00:03:56,958 [indistinct chatter] 68 00:03:58,042 --> 00:03:59,124 - What's up, man? 69 00:03:59,125 --> 00:04:00,625 - What up? 70 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,542 - This next-door neighbor at 5:00 a.m. heard two bangs. 71 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:06,667 Two loud bangs. 72 00:04:06,792 --> 00:04:09,207 She thought it was a car accident or whatever. 73 00:04:09,208 --> 00:04:10,500 At around 10:00-ish, 74 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:12,707 she noticed the glass was shattered. 75 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:15,667 And then at that point, she called for the maintenance. 76 00:04:15,792 --> 00:04:16,874 [Narrator] When the maintenance man 77 00:04:16,875 --> 00:04:18,291 spotted the victim, 78 00:04:18,292 --> 00:04:20,000 he contacted the property manager, 79 00:04:20,125 --> 00:04:22,000 who called 911. 80 00:04:30,167 --> 00:04:31,582 [somber music] 81 00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:33,542 [Narrator] 40-year-old Robert Brown III, 82 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,042 known by his stage name Rob Cobain, 83 00:04:36,167 --> 00:04:37,708 was a local hip-hop artist 84 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:40,624 who also worked at a jewelry store. 85 00:04:40,625 --> 00:04:43,417 Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son 86 00:04:43,542 --> 00:04:45,833 with his ex-wife and a 13-year-old daughter 87 00:04:45,958 --> 00:04:48,207 from a previous relationship. 88 00:04:48,208 --> 00:04:53,541 ♪ ♪ 89 00:04:53,542 --> 00:04:55,041 [Officer] The front door was locked when I got here. 90 00:04:55,042 --> 00:04:56,333 Deadbolted. 91 00:04:56,458 --> 00:04:57,542 I made entry through this hole right here. 92 00:05:00,875 --> 00:05:03,583 [ominous music] 93 00:05:03,708 --> 00:05:05,250 ♪ ♪ 94 00:05:11,083 --> 00:05:12,625 [Detective] Check his body yet? 95 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:17,249 [Narrator] Rob was shot four times, 96 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:20,957 in the back, legs, and ankle. 97 00:05:20,958 --> 00:05:22,666 ♪ ♪ 98 00:05:22,667 --> 00:05:24,667 [Detective] He's in his underwear. 99 00:05:24,792 --> 00:05:26,083 ♪ ♪ 100 00:05:26,208 --> 00:05:27,249 [Detective] What is this, a PS4? 101 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:29,374 ♪ ♪ 102 00:05:29,375 --> 00:05:30,874 [Detective] They were maybe playing a game. 103 00:05:30,875 --> 00:05:32,875 ♪ ♪ 104 00:05:33,042 --> 00:05:35,167 [Detective] Oh, there you go. Right there. 105 00:05:35,292 --> 00:05:37,249 - So one shell casing. 106 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:39,917 [Narrator] The team finds a shell casing 107 00:05:40,042 --> 00:05:41,583 on the living room floor. 108 00:05:44,542 --> 00:05:46,958 [Narrator] Another one behind the couch. 109 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:51,707 [Narrator] And one in the front hallway. 110 00:05:51,708 --> 00:05:54,707 [dramatic music] 111 00:05:54,708 --> 00:05:55,749 ♪ ♪ 112 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:58,042 [Corey] Whoever it was, he was very close 113 00:05:58,167 --> 00:05:59,417 when they started shooting him. 114 00:05:59,542 --> 00:06:02,207 There's blood all over. 115 00:06:02,208 --> 00:06:04,541 There clearly was a scuffle at the door. 116 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:06,833 Guess is that him and someone else were fighting, 117 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:09,417 and that's when the shots started going off. 118 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:11,541 Maybe he's trying to flee. 119 00:06:11,542 --> 00:06:14,582 Could have been shooting at him and put one through the glass. 120 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:16,833 And then from there, he had collapsed 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,125 right in front of the couch. 122 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:20,333 ♪ ♪ 123 00:06:20,458 --> 00:06:22,041 There's a bag of weed. 124 00:06:22,042 --> 00:06:23,583 ♪ ♪ 125 00:06:23,708 --> 00:06:26,625 [Officer] His phone is in his back bedroom. 126 00:06:26,750 --> 00:06:29,333 ♪ ♪ 127 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,082 [Detective] The original responding officer 128 00:06:31,083 --> 00:06:34,167 said he noticed that the front door was bolt-locked. 129 00:06:34,292 --> 00:06:35,500 [Detective] The window was open. 130 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:36,957 I'm thinking that's how they went in. 131 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,083 - Could be. 132 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:39,832 Not impossible. 133 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,000 There's a possibility this was just 134 00:06:41,125 --> 00:06:42,792 a random burglary gone wrong. 135 00:06:42,917 --> 00:06:45,042 ♪ ♪ 136 00:06:45,167 --> 00:06:46,707 [Scott] My personal opinion, 137 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:49,457 somebody else was let in the house. 138 00:06:49,458 --> 00:06:52,500 Maybe possible girlfriend involved or something 139 00:06:52,625 --> 00:06:55,667 because he's in his underwear in there. 140 00:06:55,792 --> 00:06:57,749 And I don't think he would have been, like, hanging out 141 00:06:57,750 --> 00:07:00,332 with one of his buddies or another dude in there, like, 142 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:02,874 half naked or whatever. 143 00:07:02,875 --> 00:07:05,500 [Corey] Right now, we have to canvass for video, 144 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:07,500 hopefully get lucky, because right now, 145 00:07:07,625 --> 00:07:09,082 we don't have a lot to go off of. 146 00:07:09,083 --> 00:07:11,167 ♪ ♪ 147 00:07:11,292 --> 00:07:12,083 It's gonna be a tough one. 148 00:07:12,208 --> 00:07:16,208 ♪ ♪ 149 00:07:16,375 --> 00:07:19,333 [clock ticking] 150 00:07:19,458 --> 00:07:20,916 Can I ask you a question real quick? 151 00:07:20,917 --> 00:07:22,749 Did you hear anything earlier this morning? 152 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:24,707 Any shouting, arguing, or anything like that? 153 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:25,791 OK. 154 00:07:25,792 --> 00:07:27,582 All right, well, I appreciate you guys. 155 00:07:27,583 --> 00:07:29,332 [knocking] [dog barking] 156 00:07:29,333 --> 00:07:30,792 Has anybody already talked to you? 157 00:07:31,875 --> 00:07:33,458 [Corey] OK. 158 00:07:34,208 --> 00:07:36,083 [knocking] 159 00:07:36,208 --> 00:07:37,792 Everybody must be at work. 160 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:40,208 ♪ ♪ 161 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:41,417 [Narrator] Then... 162 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:44,041 - OK. 163 00:07:44,042 --> 00:07:46,374 [Narrator] One of Rob's neighbors comes forward. 164 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:47,791 [Witness] His ex-wife-- 165 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:50,417 know that they just got recently divorced. 166 00:07:50,542 --> 00:07:52,875 He has two kids, um, Journey, 167 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,582 and then he has an autistic son. 168 00:07:54,583 --> 00:07:56,500 - OK. Did they live there? 169 00:07:56,625 --> 00:07:58,250 [Witness] Sometimes. 170 00:07:58,375 --> 00:08:00,082 [Narrator] Rob's car was broken down, 171 00:08:00,083 --> 00:08:02,208 so his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife 172 00:08:02,375 --> 00:08:05,000 so she could get a ride to school. 173 00:08:05,125 --> 00:08:06,832 [Corey] And you don't know him to have any drama 174 00:08:06,833 --> 00:08:08,167 or beef with anybody like that? 175 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:14,458 [Corey] What are those two people named 176 00:08:14,583 --> 00:08:16,083 that would live with him before? 177 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:21,708 [Corey] OK. 178 00:08:24,417 --> 00:08:26,000 [Corey] When was that that he kicked them out? 179 00:08:28,167 --> 00:08:29,250 [Corey] OK. 180 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:30,875 Thank you. 181 00:08:32,625 --> 00:08:35,749 [dramatic music] 182 00:08:35,750 --> 00:08:37,874 ♪ ♪ 183 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:39,707 [Narrator] Two hours in... 184 00:08:39,708 --> 00:08:42,500 - Neighbors next door made a call to her, 185 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:44,333 so she came over here to give us 186 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:45,542 a little bit more information. 187 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:47,042 [Corey] OK. 188 00:08:47,208 --> 00:08:49,541 [Narrator] Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene. 189 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:51,042 [Corey] Hello. I'm Detective Shaffer. 190 00:08:53,708 --> 00:08:56,041 [Corey] So what's your relationship to Robert? 191 00:08:56,042 --> 00:08:56,917 [Nyisha] We're friends. 192 00:08:57,042 --> 00:08:58,374 [Corey] OK. 193 00:08:58,375 --> 00:08:59,208 Has there been any drama recently 194 00:08:59,333 --> 00:09:00,667 in the house over there? 195 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:03,166 Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that? 196 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:04,457 [Nyisha] No. 197 00:09:04,458 --> 00:09:05,708 That's what we were trying to figure out, 198 00:09:05,875 --> 00:09:07,375 because he--honestly, he's not that type of person. 199 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:08,874 [Corey] Right. 200 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:10,291 [Nyisha] He's really a happy-go-lucky guy. 201 00:09:10,292 --> 00:09:11,500 [Corey] Hm. [Nyisha] So. 202 00:09:11,625 --> 00:09:12,542 [Corey] How's the relationship with the ex-wife? 203 00:09:12,708 --> 00:09:14,042 Is everything good? 204 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:15,000 [Nyisha] Yeah, they're fine. 205 00:09:15,208 --> 00:09:16,541 They recently just signed their papers. 206 00:09:16,542 --> 00:09:17,667 [Corey] OK. 207 00:09:17,792 --> 00:09:19,082 [Nyisha] But it wasn't a heated divorce. 208 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:20,292 It wasn't bad. 209 00:09:20,417 --> 00:09:21,375 - Do you know him to be involved 210 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:22,750 in anything bad, like drug dealing 211 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,499 or anything like that, narcotics, 212 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:25,833 anything to that extent? 213 00:09:25,958 --> 00:09:26,667 [Nyisha] No. 214 00:09:26,792 --> 00:09:27,917 He smoked a little weed. 215 00:09:28,042 --> 00:09:29,042 [Corey] OK. 216 00:09:31,333 --> 00:09:32,541 What about friend-wise? 217 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:33,916 Who all would Rob hang out with? 218 00:09:33,917 --> 00:09:35,374 [Nyisha] He was a ladies man. 219 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,582 He hung out with different girls. 220 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:40,082 He just had been going through some things, 221 00:09:40,083 --> 00:09:41,667 you know, going through a new divorce, 222 00:09:41,792 --> 00:09:43,333 trying to figure it out. 223 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:44,417 [Corey] Yeah. OK. 224 00:09:44,542 --> 00:09:46,083 [Nyisha] This summer, he allowed 225 00:09:46,208 --> 00:09:47,750 people to live with him. 226 00:09:47,875 --> 00:09:49,333 [Narrator] She gives to Shaffer the names 227 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,707 of Rob's former roommates. 228 00:09:51,708 --> 00:09:53,249 - Did everything work out when they got moved out, 229 00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:54,792 or was it like a bad move-out? 230 00:09:56,625 --> 00:09:57,917 - It wasn't that good? [Nyisha] No. 231 00:09:58,042 --> 00:09:58,958 - OK. 232 00:09:59,083 --> 00:10:01,582 ♪ ♪ 233 00:10:01,583 --> 00:10:02,667 - This is wild. 234 00:10:02,792 --> 00:10:04,541 - No, I know it's a lot for everybody. 235 00:10:04,542 --> 00:10:05,541 Thank you, ma'am. 236 00:10:05,542 --> 00:10:11,000 ♪ ♪ 237 00:10:11,167 --> 00:10:14,875 [clock ticking] 238 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,208 [Narrator] As word of Rob's murder continues to spread... 239 00:10:22,792 --> 00:10:24,582 [Narrator] The manager of the jewelry store 240 00:10:24,583 --> 00:10:27,583 where he worked shows up on scene. 241 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:38,541 [Narrator] She says last night, 242 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:40,667 a woman picked Rob up from work. 243 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:46,750 [Scott] What kind of car they left in? 244 00:10:50,375 --> 00:10:53,207 [Corey] So he left last night from work with a girl. 245 00:10:53,208 --> 00:10:55,041 ♪ ♪ 246 00:10:55,042 --> 00:10:56,167 - But that's the last time she saw him. 247 00:10:56,292 --> 00:10:57,916 ♪ ♪ 248 00:10:57,917 --> 00:10:59,000 [Narrator] Then... 249 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,833 [Narrator] Another possible break. 250 00:11:05,083 --> 00:11:06,667 [Narrator] Rob's neighbors remember that 251 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:09,333 he has a security camera in his living room. 252 00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:11,042 [Corey] OK, let me go check that out real quick. 253 00:11:11,167 --> 00:11:12,374 Give me one second. 254 00:11:12,375 --> 00:11:15,207 [tense music] 255 00:11:15,208 --> 00:11:17,250 ♪ ♪ 256 00:11:17,375 --> 00:11:19,625 Maybe that Ring camera was on during the whole incident 257 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:21,667 and just recording things, which would tell us 258 00:11:21,792 --> 00:11:24,166 exactly what happened and who did it. 259 00:11:24,167 --> 00:11:25,416 That would be huge. 260 00:11:25,417 --> 00:11:26,792 ♪ ♪ 261 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,833 ♪ ♪ 262 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,750 [Corey] The camera's on 'cause he's getting 263 00:11:37,875 --> 00:11:39,875 Ring notifications on his phone. 264 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,957 So we have high hopes for that. 265 00:11:41,958 --> 00:11:43,749 ♪ ♪ 266 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:46,833 [clock ticking] 267 00:11:46,958 --> 00:11:48,208 ♪ ♪ 268 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:50,000 We're hoping it's been on since this morning, 269 00:11:50,125 --> 00:11:51,750 which means that it just-- it would have been activating 270 00:11:51,917 --> 00:11:53,374 from whatever happened inside. 271 00:11:53,375 --> 00:11:58,125 ♪ ♪ 272 00:12:04,917 --> 00:12:07,249 [George] My name is George Robert Van Tine, Jr. 273 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:09,749 I've been with the North Charleston Police Department 274 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:11,541 for 23 years. 275 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:12,874 ♪ ♪ 276 00:12:12,875 --> 00:12:14,499 I spent just shy of five years 277 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:18,707 in the persons unit working violent crime and homicides. 278 00:12:18,708 --> 00:12:20,250 ♪ ♪ 279 00:12:20,375 --> 00:12:23,582 I'm honored with working in cold cases now. 280 00:12:23,583 --> 00:12:26,624 The department set up this unit to help bring justice 281 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:28,167 to the victims and the families 282 00:12:28,292 --> 00:12:30,250 where the case agent has moved on. 283 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:32,875 They've either been transferred out or they retired, 284 00:12:33,042 --> 00:12:36,249 and the case still isn't solved. 285 00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:38,333 Detective Shaffer has transferred back to the road. 286 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:41,500 So we're gonna continue looking into Lowell Drive 287 00:12:41,625 --> 00:12:43,874 and pick up where he left off. 288 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:47,457 Looks like in the report when Shaffer left 289 00:12:47,458 --> 00:12:50,917 the crime scene that night, his head was spinning. 290 00:12:52,375 --> 00:12:56,582 Probably had half a dozen potential motives. 291 00:12:56,583 --> 00:12:58,250 It could be a burglary gone bad 292 00:12:58,375 --> 00:13:02,750 because there is a window partially opened. 293 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:06,332 There's been indication that he is a ladies' man. 294 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:07,875 He's in his underwear. 295 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,583 So it could be something with a lovers' quarrel. 296 00:13:11,708 --> 00:13:14,583 The ex-roommate may have been involved. 297 00:13:14,708 --> 00:13:17,375 There was some type of argument. 298 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,917 And then there is a female that picked him up from work 299 00:13:21,042 --> 00:13:24,333 and who was the last person to see him. 300 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:26,249 Once Shaffer goes home, 301 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:28,667 evening shift starts running with it, 302 00:13:28,792 --> 00:13:30,333 trying to get into the victim's phone. 303 00:13:30,458 --> 00:13:33,208 Maybe there's some indication of who that female 304 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,874 that picked him up from work may be. 305 00:13:35,875 --> 00:13:38,749 [tense music] 306 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:41,541 ♪ ♪ 307 00:13:41,542 --> 00:13:44,749 [clock ticking] 308 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:46,333 [Narrator] Seven hours in... 309 00:13:47,458 --> 00:13:48,916 [Sam] Mm-hmm. 310 00:13:48,917 --> 00:13:51,375 [Narrator] Digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel 311 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,375 was downloading Rob's phone... 312 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:00,332 [Narrator] And found a text conversation between Rob 313 00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:02,792 and the woman who picked him up from work last night. 314 00:14:05,417 --> 00:14:07,500 [Officer] Get her in here, see what she knows. 315 00:14:07,625 --> 00:14:14,250 ♪ ♪ 316 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:17,292 [clock ticking] 317 00:14:18,708 --> 00:14:20,167 [Narrator] Two hours later... 318 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:25,542 [Narrator] Amanda agrees to talk. 319 00:14:36,167 --> 00:14:39,000 I sent my husband over there after he got off work. 320 00:14:39,125 --> 00:14:40,332 - OK. 321 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:42,916 All right, so you saw him yesterday, correct? 322 00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:45,000 - Yeah, I picked him up from work yesterday. 323 00:14:45,125 --> 00:14:47,249 It was about 10 till 6:00, 324 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:51,083 and we went to the Publix to get a sandwich. 325 00:14:57,542 --> 00:15:00,249 [Danielle] And once you guys were there, what happened? 326 00:15:00,250 --> 00:15:02,875 - We smoked for a little bit. 327 00:15:03,042 --> 00:15:04,708 And we watched "Yo! MTV Raps," 328 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:08,041 and we ate our sandwich. 329 00:15:08,042 --> 00:15:10,041 And we smoked some more. 330 00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:12,707 [Tim] I don't know, like, why her husband 331 00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:13,917 would think it'd be cool if she goes 332 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:16,541 to some other dude's house and smokes weed with him. 333 00:15:16,542 --> 00:15:19,707 Is he, like, jealous of their relationship? 334 00:15:19,708 --> 00:15:22,082 It's weird. 335 00:15:22,083 --> 00:15:24,041 - And I took off about 9:30. 336 00:15:24,042 --> 00:15:26,000 He walked me outside. 337 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,042 We didn't spend too much time outside because it was cold. 338 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:34,041 He just said, I love you. 339 00:15:34,042 --> 00:15:36,041 The last that I heard from him was last night 340 00:15:36,042 --> 00:15:38,624 when I told him I'm home, and he responded, 341 00:15:38,625 --> 00:15:39,916 the little heart thing. 342 00:15:39,917 --> 00:15:41,417 [Danielle] And roughly how long is the drive? 343 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:42,874 - About an hour. 344 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:44,500 - OK. 345 00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:48,416 And did he mention having any plans afterwards? 346 00:15:48,417 --> 00:15:50,750 [Amanda] No, I think he was gonna go to bed. 347 00:15:50,875 --> 00:15:53,666 He had to work today. 348 00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:55,207 - How did the two of you meet? 349 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:56,499 And how long have you known him? 350 00:15:56,500 --> 00:16:00,916 [Amanda] Since April of 2016 in Northwoods Mall. 351 00:16:00,917 --> 00:16:02,042 [Narrator] She says she and Rob have 352 00:16:02,167 --> 00:16:04,332 been friends for eight years. 353 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:06,542 [Amanda] We had a conversation about Prince, 354 00:16:06,667 --> 00:16:11,249 the singer, and we've just been friends ever since. 355 00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:14,167 [crying] 356 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:20,333 - Have you and Rob ever had, like, a sexual relationship? 357 00:16:22,875 --> 00:16:23,958 [Danielle] So it's just friends? 358 00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:25,875 - Exactly. - OK. 359 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:27,917 Is he--he's pretty cool with your husband? 360 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,707 - Oh, yeah, absolutely. 361 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:33,500 [tense music] 362 00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:36,208 ♪ ♪ 363 00:16:36,333 --> 00:16:37,374 [Danielle] What was Rob wearing 364 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,541 when you saw him last night? 365 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,917 - Um... 366 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:43,917 I think it was a black long sleeve 367 00:16:44,042 --> 00:16:46,707 just shirt that he had on, 368 00:16:46,708 --> 00:16:48,249 jeans. 369 00:16:48,250 --> 00:16:50,958 ♪ ♪ 370 00:17:06,042 --> 00:17:08,541 - And do you know what his relationship was like 371 00:17:08,542 --> 00:17:11,000 with the guy that used to live with him? 372 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,333 - No. 373 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,624 But he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend. 374 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:17,749 [Danielle] So what happened? 375 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:19,083 - I don't know, honestly. 376 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:21,792 Rob just referred to them as houseguests, 377 00:17:21,917 --> 00:17:24,874 and I didn't ask too many questions. 378 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:28,333 The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about 379 00:17:28,458 --> 00:17:32,417 is his neighbor smelling the weed. 380 00:17:32,542 --> 00:17:34,749 And we did talk about that because he had his-- 381 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:38,083 he propped his sliding glass door open a little bit, 382 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:39,583 so it would air out. 383 00:17:39,708 --> 00:17:40,999 [Danielle] Do you know if Rob kept that door open 384 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,375 after you left? 385 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:43,708 - Probably. 386 00:17:43,833 --> 00:17:46,875 He made me nervous because he didn't lock things, 387 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,041 that being one of them. 388 00:17:48,042 --> 00:17:49,375 [Danielle] Mm-hmm. 389 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,582 [Danielle] I'm sorry for your loss. 390 00:17:56,583 --> 00:17:59,042 ♪ ♪ 391 00:17:59,167 --> 00:18:00,875 Give me one more second. 392 00:18:01,042 --> 00:18:07,417 ♪ ♪ 393 00:18:07,542 --> 00:18:09,875 It does sound like her and the victim 394 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,750 had a good friendship. 395 00:18:11,875 --> 00:18:15,250 Since she says that her husband was cool with it, 396 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:18,207 we do plan on following up with the husband 397 00:18:18,208 --> 00:18:20,500 just to make sure that there wasn't any type 398 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,749 of jealousy on his end. 399 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:24,250 - Yeah. 400 00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:30,041 ♪ ♪ 401 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,375 [George] From glancing at this, 402 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,374 Shaffer did talk to Amanda's husband, 403 00:18:34,375 --> 00:18:38,500 and it seemed like he was OK with his wife going over there, 404 00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:41,374 that he knew the victim and he didn't 405 00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:42,875 have any issues with him. 406 00:18:43,042 --> 00:18:45,541 He did not feel the husband was involved. 407 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:47,874 So after the shift ended, they were no closer 408 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:49,749 to a motive behind this. 409 00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:51,374 ♪ ♪ 410 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:54,625 According to witnesses, Rob was a ladies' man. 411 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:57,875 So Shaffer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing 412 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,667 and track down the couple that used to live with the victim. 413 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:05,749 And he also wanted access to the footage 414 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:08,458 on the phone, a Ring camera that was inside 415 00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:12,042 the victim's home that may have the possible suspect, 416 00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:14,707 which would have been huge. 417 00:19:14,708 --> 00:19:17,500 [tense music] 418 00:19:17,625 --> 00:19:21,708 ♪ ♪ 419 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:24,792 [clock ticking] 420 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:29,208 [Narrator] The next morning, Detective Parker Bush, 421 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:32,125 and Shaffer head out to try to find some of the women 422 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,708 that Rob had been seeing. 423 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:36,249 [Corey] Could still be a chick. 424 00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:37,250 Sleeping around with different women, 425 00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:39,041 some chick could not like it. 426 00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:40,541 [Parker] Well, that and then 427 00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:42,624 one of their significant others finds out. 428 00:19:42,625 --> 00:19:44,999 [Corey] Yeah, and shows up there at the door going, 429 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,208 hey, can I talk to you? 430 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:47,750 And things go south. 431 00:19:47,875 --> 00:19:49,000 [Parker] Yep. 432 00:19:49,125 --> 00:19:51,374 ♪ ♪ 433 00:19:51,375 --> 00:19:53,082 [ringtone chiming] 434 00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:54,083 [Narrator] Then... 435 00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:56,374 [Corey] Hey, sir, how are you? 436 00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:58,375 [Narrator] The team gets a tip... 437 00:20:02,667 --> 00:20:05,500 [Narrator] From Robert Brown's female ex-roommate. 438 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,667 [Narrator] She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend, 439 00:20:12,833 --> 00:20:16,625 who's Rob's other ex-roommate, may be the killer. 440 00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:20,874 [Corey] OK. 441 00:20:20,875 --> 00:20:22,667 All right, well, I appreciate it. 442 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,708 - All right, take it easy. 443 00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:27,458 ♪ ♪ 444 00:20:38,667 --> 00:20:41,207 [Corey] Let's see what this chick has to say. 445 00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:43,082 ♪ ♪ 446 00:20:43,083 --> 00:20:46,041 [clock ticking] 447 00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:50,125 ♪ ♪ 448 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,374 [Corey] Hey, how are you? 449 00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:54,208 What happened? 450 00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:04,625 [Detective] OK. 451 00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:09,500 [Narrator] She says while they were living with Rob, 452 00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:12,207 she and her boyfriend weren't getting along. 453 00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:16,583 [Detective] How did it end with y'all and Rob 454 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:18,625 and staying at his apartment? 455 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:25,375 [Narrator] Rob asked them to leave because his daughter 456 00:21:25,542 --> 00:21:27,500 was coming back to live with him. 457 00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,624 [Narrator] And shortly after they moved out, 458 00:21:30,625 --> 00:21:33,083 she and her boyfriend broke up. 459 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:34,208 [Corey] What makes you think 460 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:35,416 he would be the one involved? 461 00:21:35,417 --> 00:21:36,292 Was there bad things between him and Rob 462 00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:37,500 when they were living there? 463 00:21:47,042 --> 00:21:48,417 [Corey] OK. 464 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:54,958 [Corey] Right, right, OK. 465 00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:57,958 [Corey] OK. 466 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:10,458 [Corey] OK. 467 00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:11,750 We're gonna continue investigating 468 00:22:11,875 --> 00:22:13,416 and go from there. 469 00:22:13,417 --> 00:22:15,000 We have to go based off where the evidence takes us. 470 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,417 I know you said your intuition, but... 471 00:22:18,542 --> 00:22:19,583 - Yeah. 472 00:22:25,292 --> 00:22:26,792 - No, 100%. 473 00:22:28,333 --> 00:22:30,749 All right, well, thank you for your time, ma'am. 474 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:36,499 ♪ ♪ 475 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,874 [tense music] 476 00:22:38,875 --> 00:22:41,541 [George] It was basically woman's intuition 477 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,291 that the ex-roommate may have been involved. 478 00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:47,374 But Detective Shaffer did a search warrant 479 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:50,624 on the ex-roommate's phone. 480 00:22:50,625 --> 00:22:52,749 And during the time frame of the murder, 481 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:57,082 that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina. 482 00:22:57,083 --> 00:22:59,124 And I believe Shaffer spoke to that person on the phone, 483 00:22:59,125 --> 00:23:00,625 and he was very cooperative. 484 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,083 So I think he ruled him out. 485 00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:05,750 ♪ ♪ 486 00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,374 Detective Shaffer, in his notes and what he told me, 487 00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:11,291 seems like everyone he talked to, whether it be 488 00:23:11,292 --> 00:23:15,208 girlfriends, anybody, spoke very highly of the victim. 489 00:23:15,375 --> 00:23:17,957 And he got the sense that no one 490 00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:22,458 in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim. 491 00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:25,042 And everyone was baffled as to who would do this. 492 00:23:28,083 --> 00:23:29,708 Shaffer hit a dead end. 493 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,667 And so they had the Hail Mary of the Ring camera 494 00:23:32,792 --> 00:23:34,875 that was inside the victim's home 495 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,333 that would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it. 496 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,374 [tense music] 497 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:44,958 ♪ ♪ 498 00:23:45,083 --> 00:23:47,833 [clock ticking] 499 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,542 [Narrator] As the first 48 slips away... 500 00:23:50,667 --> 00:23:53,042 [Sam] The camera covers the living room. 501 00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:55,541 [Narrator] Shaffer gets an update on the security camera 502 00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:57,499 in Rob's living room. 503 00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,707 - But the Ring camera that was in there, 504 00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:02,583 the plan is inactive, 505 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,207 which means it will give you 506 00:24:04,208 --> 00:24:07,083 notifications and alerts, 507 00:24:07,208 --> 00:24:08,500 but it doesn't record any of it. 508 00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:11,667 It's live view only. 509 00:24:11,792 --> 00:24:13,958 [Officer] So there's no video of the actual shooting? 510 00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:15,667 - Nope. 511 00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:16,833 - Oh. 512 00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:19,958 Can't get freaking lucky on none of it. 513 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:21,541 - Back to square one on that. 514 00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:22,957 [Officer] Felt too good to be true. 515 00:24:22,958 --> 00:24:25,874 ♪ ♪ 516 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,374 - So yeah, things are going well. 517 00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:29,582 Everything's coming together nicely. 518 00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:32,541 And I mean that with the most sarcasm possible. 519 00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:35,417 [tense music] 520 00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:38,707 [clock ticking] 521 00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:44,916 ♪ ♪ 522 00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,875 [Narrator] Six days later... 523 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,082 [Corey] Number one, I am so sorry. 524 00:24:49,083 --> 00:24:50,875 This is the worst way to meet someone, like I said, 525 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,500 in such a situation. 526 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,500 [Narrator] Shaffer speaks to Rob's mother. 527 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:57,875 - He didn't deserve what he got 528 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 because the type of person that he was. 529 00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,707 Before I leave South Carolina, 530 00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:06,707 I need to go home with some kind of closure. 531 00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:08,874 - Yes. - Not just leaving my child. 532 00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:11,083 - I want to help and tell you as much as I can, 533 00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:12,582 but it is ongoing, 534 00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:14,791 so there's a lot I can't tell you right now. 535 00:25:14,792 --> 00:25:16,208 What I can tell you is this. 536 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:17,750 There's two possibilities. 537 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:20,417 It was either a random burglary gone wrong 538 00:25:20,583 --> 00:25:22,125 or it was someone he knew. 539 00:25:40,958 --> 00:25:44,125 [Narrator] The team turns to Rob's ex-wife and daughter. 540 00:25:50,417 --> 00:25:52,582 - Did your dad ever mention 541 00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:54,917 that his house got broken into previously? 542 00:25:56,542 --> 00:25:58,500 [Danielle] So tell me about that. 543 00:26:07,708 --> 00:26:08,667 [Danielle] OK. 544 00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:10,624 And did he tell you how he thought 545 00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:12,542 the person was able to get inside? 546 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:19,541 [dramatic music] 547 00:26:19,542 --> 00:26:21,792 ♪ ♪ 548 00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:28,499 [Danielle] Gotcha. 549 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,667 Like, what time of day did it happen? 550 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,333 [Danielle] So night time? 551 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:43,417 [Danielle] Thank you again for coming in. 552 00:26:43,542 --> 00:26:46,667 I'm sorry for y'all's loss. 553 00:26:46,833 --> 00:26:49,541 Give me one second, OK? 554 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,167 ♪ ♪ 555 00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:53,875 - He did get his stuff broken into a couple of weeks ago. 556 00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:56,500 ♪ ♪ 557 00:26:56,625 --> 00:26:58,500 - And then I don't really see-- 558 00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:01,707 there's no calls for service over there. 559 00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:04,249 [Corey] So if he did, he never reported it to us. 560 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:05,416 That's interesting. 561 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:07,749 We'll have to chase that down too. 562 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:10,416 We're just gonna keep talking to more and more people. 563 00:27:10,417 --> 00:27:12,082 We're hoping to get a bunch of video 564 00:27:12,083 --> 00:27:14,832 from the surrounding streets and surrounding areas, 565 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,041 hoping that somebody's camera somewhere 566 00:27:17,042 --> 00:27:19,792 caught someone running from the scene that we could track 567 00:27:19,917 --> 00:27:22,291 or someone jumping in a car right afterwards. 568 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:23,333 - Yeah. 569 00:27:23,458 --> 00:27:25,041 [Corey] We just need to get something. 570 00:27:25,042 --> 00:27:29,207 ♪ ♪ 571 00:27:29,208 --> 00:27:32,207 [dramatic music] 572 00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:34,500 ♪ ♪ 573 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:36,875 [Narrator] Four days later... 574 00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:41,333 [Narrator] The team watches surveillance video 575 00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:42,832 from the grocery store 576 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,208 next to Rob's apartment complex. 577 00:27:45,375 --> 00:27:49,125 [Corey] The victim's building is right here. 578 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:52,041 Right there is, like, right by where the window is at. 579 00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:53,667 We need, like, some video of somebody 580 00:27:53,792 --> 00:27:56,583 running from the scene or some [bleep]. 581 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,458 Otherwise, it's like a [bleep] "Dateline" special. 582 00:27:59,583 --> 00:28:00,916 ♪ ♪ 583 00:28:00,917 --> 00:28:05,291 So far, not a lot of luck. 584 00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:07,042 [Narrator] Then... 585 00:28:09,042 --> 00:28:10,999 Where the green thing is at. 586 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,791 A thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside 587 00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:16,500 of the victim's building at 4:15 in the morning 588 00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:19,667 right before the shooting. 589 00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:22,583 We think the murder time is around, like, 5:00 a.m., 590 00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:25,458 but this is about 55 minutes before that. 591 00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:29,082 This figure is just wandering around. 592 00:28:29,083 --> 00:28:30,791 ♪ ♪ 593 00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:32,125 Very suspicious to me 594 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:33,708 'cause he's not going into an apartment. 595 00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:35,374 He's not walking a dog. 596 00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:37,750 ♪ ♪ 597 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:39,417 He's just wandering around behind buildings 598 00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:41,041 in the middle of the night. 599 00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:42,457 I think the temperature that night 600 00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:44,874 was, like, 40 degrees or less. 601 00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,917 So it was cold as hell out. 602 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,916 And you're wandering around at 4:00 in the morning. 603 00:28:49,917 --> 00:28:52,917 So my curiosity is, why are you doing that? 604 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:55,041 ♪ ♪ 605 00:28:55,042 --> 00:28:57,749 [Officer] They're looking to break into somewhere. 606 00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:59,332 [Corey] That's what I was getting a feel for. 607 00:28:59,333 --> 00:29:01,874 Like, are they looking for open windows and [bleep]? 608 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,333 The homicide, he did have his window left open. 609 00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:08,083 And his mother said that he did get broken into 610 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,541 a couple weeks ago. 611 00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:13,250 ♪ ♪ 612 00:29:16,083 --> 00:29:20,499 ♪ ♪ 613 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,542 Then I don't see him again. 614 00:29:21,708 --> 00:29:27,000 ♪ ♪ 615 00:29:29,542 --> 00:29:31,874 And then this video we're getting 616 00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:34,042 is from right about here. 617 00:29:34,208 --> 00:29:35,957 [Narrator] Shaffer pulls up doorbell footage 618 00:29:35,958 --> 00:29:37,791 they got from a neighbor down the street 619 00:29:37,792 --> 00:29:39,874 from Rob's apartment. 620 00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:43,791 - This is at 5:12 a.m., minutes after we believe 621 00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:46,041 the homicide occurred, of an individual 622 00:29:46,042 --> 00:29:47,707 walking down the street. 623 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:52,707 ♪ ♪ 624 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:54,624 Lowell Drive, 625 00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:56,832 which is where the homicide occurred. 626 00:29:56,833 --> 00:29:57,917 [Officer] This could potentially be 627 00:29:58,042 --> 00:29:59,792 the same person from the video walking 628 00:29:59,958 --> 00:30:01,333 behind the apartment building. 629 00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:03,582 ♪ ♪ 630 00:30:03,583 --> 00:30:05,875 - This guy is a potential suspect. 631 00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:14,292 But he's our best lead so far, as you can say. 632 00:30:14,417 --> 00:30:15,749 - Yeah. 633 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,208 ♪ ♪ 634 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:20,916 - It's possible that it was a burglary gone wrong. 635 00:30:20,917 --> 00:30:22,708 He's laying down and someone was trying to break in. 636 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,333 - Yeah. 637 00:30:24,458 --> 00:30:29,875 ♪ ♪ 638 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,750 [Narrator] Three weeks later... 639 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:32,957 [Officer] Hey, Cason? 640 00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:34,541 [Cason] Yes, sir? 641 00:30:34,542 --> 00:30:37,000 [Narrator] Detectives Cason Alex and Carlos Ochoajaya 642 00:30:37,167 --> 00:30:39,166 are working a case that they believe 643 00:30:39,167 --> 00:30:41,958 could be connected to Rob's. 644 00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:45,207 - So I have a rash of burglaries 645 00:30:45,208 --> 00:30:47,291 in the Forest Hills area. 646 00:30:47,292 --> 00:30:50,208 And that's the same area where the homicide was. 647 00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:52,166 [Narrator] The most recent burglary 648 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:55,083 occurred around 10:00 last night. 649 00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:56,791 - He went into the window of their house 650 00:30:56,792 --> 00:30:58,749 while everybody was inside the house 651 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:01,041 and just stole all their stuff. 652 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:02,916 The MO is exact same for this kid. 653 00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:05,374 I dealt with him before, where he likes 654 00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:08,000 to break into people houses while people are home. 655 00:31:08,167 --> 00:31:11,332 [Narrator] Alex realized the MO of last night's robbery 656 00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:12,874 matched that of a juvenile burglar 657 00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,083 that he arrested three months ago. 658 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:22,707 The case I arrested him for back in September, 659 00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:24,167 he broke in the house. 660 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,000 One of the roommates came home, confronted him. 661 00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,624 He pulled a gun out on them. 662 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,916 When me and other detectives went to go pick him up, 663 00:31:29,917 --> 00:31:31,333 he tried to pull a gun out on us, 664 00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:34,167 but we were able to stop him before he was able to do it. 665 00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:36,708 [Narrator] Charges against the juvenile for burglary 666 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:39,499 three months ago were dismissed. 667 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,167 - So he may be connected into the homicide 668 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,583 because the MO is just the same. 669 00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,875 ♪ ♪ 670 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,375 [Cason] The juvenile suspect was 671 00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,416 definitely on the street at the time Rob's murder happened. 672 00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:59,500 ♪ ♪ 673 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,500 [Officer] So did she see the guy who broke in? 674 00:32:02,958 --> 00:32:04,916 [Narrator] The victim of last night's burglary 675 00:32:04,917 --> 00:32:07,167 was in her bedroom when it happened. 676 00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:18,000 So then, this morning, 677 00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,832 a neighbor gives her video footage. 678 00:32:20,833 --> 00:32:22,417 She see two Black males. 679 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,917 [Carlos] Out of that video that she sees, 680 00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:29,500 she identifies the juvenile. 681 00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:31,832 [Narrator] The burglary victim recognized 682 00:32:31,833 --> 00:32:33,041 one of the suspects in the video 683 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,582 from the neighborhood. 684 00:32:34,583 --> 00:32:37,707 He's the same juvenile that Detective Alex arrested 685 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,417 for the previous burglary. 686 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:44,207 - So we think this may be our suspect from the homicide. 687 00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:46,083 [Officer] It's possible. 688 00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:48,249 [Cason] The fact that he was willing to pull a gun out 689 00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:51,332 on three officers in uniform, the fact that he actually did 690 00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:55,041 pull a gun out on my other victim and threatened her, 691 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,000 I feel like he could escalate that point, 692 00:32:58,167 --> 00:32:59,333 especially if he's inside somebody house 693 00:32:59,458 --> 00:33:02,249 breaking in there and they catch him. 694 00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:04,250 I wouldn't be surprised he would do something like that. 695 00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,207 ♪ ♪ 696 00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:07,832 Unfortunately, we don't have enough to arrest him 697 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:08,916 for this burglary. 698 00:33:08,917 --> 00:33:12,333 ♪ ♪ 699 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,875 So the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case 700 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,332 for those two. 701 00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:18,416 We're gonna follow up with the victim. 702 00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:19,333 We're gonna go out to her house. 703 00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:20,667 We'll start going around the neighborhood 704 00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,041 canvassing for video. 705 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,999 And then when we can get enough to charge them 706 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,208 with the burglary, we can pick them up. 707 00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:28,000 And while they're up here, 708 00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:29,583 talk to them about the homicide. 709 00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:33,124 ♪ ♪ 710 00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:34,999 [George] Detective Shaffer, in his notes 711 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,292 and what he told me, he wasn't able to develop 712 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,332 enough probable cause or enough evidence 713 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,957 for that one particular burglary to charge him. 714 00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:47,957 And then Shaffer was beginning the process 715 00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:50,167 of being promoted out of the unit. 716 00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:54,374 [Narrator] Six months after Shaffer left the unit... 717 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,167 [George] The property detectives, Detective Cason, 718 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,875 ended up charging that juvenile suspect 719 00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:01,875 with yet another burglary. 720 00:34:02,042 --> 00:34:04,291 ♪ ♪ 721 00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:07,208 When Detective Cason went to apprehend 722 00:34:07,375 --> 00:34:10,792 that juvenile suspect, he had a backpack, 723 00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:13,332 just like the suspect that is on camera, 724 00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:16,292 walking back towards his residence 725 00:34:16,417 --> 00:34:19,374 minutes after the homicide. 726 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:23,332 So that's a strong person of interest. 727 00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:25,917 So needed to somehow find some way 728 00:34:26,042 --> 00:34:28,083 to convince him to come to city hall 729 00:34:28,208 --> 00:34:30,542 to put him in a room and interview him. 730 00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:34,458 ♪ ♪ 731 00:34:34,583 --> 00:34:37,582 [tense music] 732 00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:41,291 ♪ ♪ 733 00:34:41,292 --> 00:34:44,541 [Narrator] 13 months after Rob's murder... 734 00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:46,457 [George] That juvenile suspect just 735 00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,916 came in today to pick up some items from another case. 736 00:34:49,917 --> 00:34:52,041 So a phone, his backpack. 737 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,958 So I'm gonna try to interview him and see what he says. 738 00:34:55,083 --> 00:34:57,167 See if we can get him to admit to this. 739 00:34:58,708 --> 00:34:59,750 Hey, how's it going? 740 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,333 I'm Detective Van Tine. 741 00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:04,249 So you're looking to get some items back? 742 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:05,874 You're talking about, like, a backpack. 743 00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:07,083 You're talking about a phone. 744 00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:11,707 [George] OK, Apple iPhone was seized, 745 00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:12,833 and then you said your-- 746 00:35:14,833 --> 00:35:16,000 [George] I got you. 747 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:17,625 Do you always--how long you had that backpack for? 748 00:35:21,708 --> 00:35:23,707 [George] We had some burglaries in the area. 749 00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:26,582 And I'm wondering if-- if I show you a picture, 750 00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:28,791 if you ever hit this place or remember it. 751 00:35:28,792 --> 00:35:33,500 ♪ ♪ 752 00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,333 [George] Yeah. 753 00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:42,250 December 3rd, early in the morning, 2024, 754 00:35:42,375 --> 00:35:46,083 this place was broken into. 755 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,167 This window is open. 756 00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:49,625 This was shattered. 757 00:35:51,792 --> 00:35:52,625 [chuckles] 758 00:35:57,083 --> 00:35:59,875 [George] The thing is, I think you do. 759 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:04,624 You would go into, like, different places, right? 760 00:36:04,625 --> 00:36:07,167 And so I'm asking about this particular one. 761 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,875 Get it off your chest. What happened? 762 00:36:14,792 --> 00:36:15,624 [George] Let me ask you this. 763 00:36:15,625 --> 00:36:16,916 When you did these break-ins, 764 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,375 did you have someone with you? 765 00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,750 [George] What do you do? 766 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,125 [George] How do you get in usually, though? 767 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,417 [George] You always go through, like, a window? 768 00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:37,624 [George] This window is open. 769 00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,707 You ever go through this window and chill? 770 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:44,708 ♪ ♪ 771 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,542 [tense music] 772 00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:55,083 [George] Have you ever gone to a place 773 00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,458 where somebody lives while they're in there? 774 00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:04,333 [George] Yeah, well, not knowing they're in there. 775 00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:09,375 [George] When you go and chill in these houses, 776 00:37:09,542 --> 00:37:11,292 you usually have a weapon on you? 777 00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:16,583 [George] You were arrested with guns in the past. 778 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:21,875 [George] Right. 779 00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:39,333 [George] The phone, do you know the passcode to that phone? 780 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,541 [Narrator] He gives Van Tine the passcode. 781 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:44,833 [George] I'm gonna be honest with you. 782 00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:46,750 I won't be able to release it today, that's for sure. 783 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:51,707 [George] Well, I got you. 784 00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:52,625 I feel you. 785 00:37:54,542 --> 00:37:55,917 [George] Yeah, you're good. 786 00:38:04,792 --> 00:38:06,666 Just denying, denying. 787 00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:09,666 He mentioned that he did usually go through the windows. 788 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:13,000 And this is entry through a window unsecured. 789 00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:14,542 But I just don't have enough to say-- 790 00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,582 I don't have any DNA putting him there. 791 00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:19,333 I don't have any video putting him there. 792 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,667 I got the passcode to his phone so we can do the phone dump. 793 00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:24,374 So maybe there's something in the text message 794 00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:27,207 that will either rule him out or rule him in. 795 00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:32,667 ♪ ♪ 796 00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:34,667 The burglary suspect that we just interviewed, 797 00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:36,416 we did dump his phone. 798 00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:39,250 Unfortunately, there's nothing to prove 799 00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:41,249 that he committed this crime, 800 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:43,917 but he is still a strong person of interest. 801 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:47,208 As far as the community, maybe somebody knows something 802 00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:49,249 or he confided in somebody. 803 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:51,000 Maybe someone has some crucial information 804 00:38:51,125 --> 00:38:53,541 that will help solve it. 805 00:38:53,542 --> 00:38:55,500 I know this suspect commits burglaries 806 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,374 with other juveniles. 807 00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:00,083 Maybe they will cooperate 808 00:39:00,208 --> 00:39:02,125 and they'll be able to come forward. 809 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:04,499 I think the thing is just trying to-- 810 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:09,582 never giving up and just hoping that something will break. 811 00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,250 [Rob] ♪ And I won't let them break me ♪ 812 00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:13,042 ♪ Them demons, they won't take me ♪ 813 00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:14,707 ♪ I keep spreading love ♪ 814 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:16,625 ♪ And you'll continue hatin' ♪ 815 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,708 [George] Unsolved cases are never closed. 816 00:39:18,875 --> 00:39:21,375 [Rob] ♪ Is what it is, I'm the last one standin' ♪ 817 00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:23,583 ♪ I'm the heartbreak kid ♪ 818 00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:25,082 [George] I'm gonna do everything in my power 819 00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:27,000 to figure out who did this. 820 00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:29,167 Rob's life was taken. 821 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:30,708 Thank you. 822 00:39:30,917 --> 00:39:33,792 And so I feel it's important to let the families know 823 00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:36,583 we are still actively trying to solve it. 824 00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:40,874 - Yeah. 825 00:39:40,875 --> 00:39:44,500 If it's been over a year or two years or three 826 00:39:44,625 --> 00:39:46,333 or ten or whatever the case is, 827 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,166 we're never gonna give up hope. 828 00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:49,582 We're never gonna stop trying. 829 00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,000 I'm never gonna quit on it. 830 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,167 Never. 831 00:39:52,292 --> 00:39:59,167 ♪ ♪ 832 00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:01,000 [somber music] 833 00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:04,208 - He made people laugh just by stepping in the room. 834 00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:05,875 ♪ ♪ 835 00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:07,041 He was just that silly. 836 00:40:07,042 --> 00:40:08,957 ♪ ♪ 837 00:40:08,958 --> 00:40:11,041 [Jimmie] Just proud of him, you know? 838 00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,541 Never had nothing bad to say about my nephew. 839 00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:16,417 [Rosa] I just can't wrap my mind around 840 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:19,000 why somebody would do that to him. 841 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:22,167 [Linda] Whoever did it, they took something 842 00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:25,542 away from me that could never be replaced. 843 00:40:25,667 --> 00:40:30,374 They took a daddy away from his kids. 844 00:40:30,375 --> 00:40:32,042 - It's been a struggle. 845 00:40:38,292 --> 00:40:42,582 With Kingston, he doesn't understand. 846 00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:46,082 So he asks for him, and I can't really explain 847 00:40:46,083 --> 00:40:47,957 why he's not there. 848 00:40:47,958 --> 00:40:49,666 ♪ ♪ 849 00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:51,583 With Journey, it's a different type 850 00:40:51,708 --> 00:40:53,082 of difficulty, 'cause she knows. 851 00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:54,666 ♪ ♪ 852 00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:56,958 [Linda] She's angry and upset 853 00:40:57,125 --> 00:41:00,458 because somebody took something so valuable 854 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:03,874 away from her, from all of us. 855 00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:08,041 And I want to be able to look at the person in their eyes 856 00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:10,582 and ask them why. 857 00:41:10,583 --> 00:41:13,707 [tense music] 858 00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,166 ♪ ♪ 859 00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:20,167 Father God, we gather today in honor of Robert, 860 00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:23,249 hoping that this will bring justice. 861 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:24,832 ♪ ♪ 862 00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:27,707 Somebody knows exactly what happened, 863 00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:31,707 and I pray that their conscience will allow them 864 00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:34,666 to tell somebody so that we'll know 865 00:41:34,667 --> 00:41:36,374 who did it and why. 866 00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:37,833 Put yourself in our shoes. 867 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,249 What if it was your family member 868 00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:42,500 and you know somebody know? 869 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:45,000 Wouldn't you want them to say it? 870 00:41:45,167 --> 00:41:46,750 It would help a lot. 871 00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:49,333 Please and thank you, whoever you are. 872 00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,416 I know you know something. 873 00:41:51,417 --> 00:41:54,500 ♪ ♪ 874 00:41:54,625 --> 00:42:00,167 In loving memories, Robert LaNorris Brown III. 875 00:42:00,292 --> 00:42:02,875 ♪ ♪ 876 00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,417 Justice for Rob Cobain. 877 00:42:05,542 --> 00:42:06,832 Say it loud. 878 00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:09,417 [All] Justice for Rob Cobain. 879 00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:13,041 Justice for Rob Cobain. 880 00:42:13,042 --> 00:42:14,457 Amen. 881 00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:16,292 ♪ ♪ 882 00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:17,167 [Rob] ♪ World ain't stoppin' ♪ 883 00:42:17,375 --> 00:42:18,624 ♪ Even if the people dyin' ♪ 884 00:42:18,625 --> 00:42:20,249 ♪ And their bodies keep droppin' ♪ 885 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,332 ♪ Heartbroken ♪ 886 00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:22,667 ♪ I must be Captain Planet ♪ 887 00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:24,333 ♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪ 888 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:25,917 ♪ My little heart is damaged ♪ 889 00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:29,041 ♪ Heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪ 890 00:42:29,042 --> 00:42:31,332 ♪ I'm heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪ 891 00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:34,042 ♪ ♪