1 00:00:23,375 --> 00:00:28,416 We have been screaming, justice for Rob Cobain. 2 00:00:28,417 --> 00:00:30,416 Screaming it. I'm screaming it. 3 00:00:30,417 --> 00:00:32,707 Justice. 4 00:00:32,708 --> 00:00:34,082 He was an artist. 5 00:00:34,083 --> 00:00:36,499 He worked, supported his kids. 6 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,583 No criminal history whatsoever. 7 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:41,500 And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment, 8 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:43,957 for no reason that we have been able to find. 9 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:48,250 It's not just a homicide case anymore. 10 00:00:48,375 --> 00:00:50,124 I take it personal that this is sitting 11 00:00:50,125 --> 00:00:51,667 unsolved on my name. 12 00:00:54,583 --> 00:00:57,125 Detective Shaffer, he was passionate about this case, 13 00:00:57,250 --> 00:01:00,250 but he got promoted and put back on the road. 14 00:01:00,375 --> 00:01:02,917 So I'm gonna pick up where he left off. 15 00:01:05,208 --> 00:01:06,707 He was a beacon of light. 16 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:09,125 No matter where you saw him, he was smiling. 17 00:01:09,292 --> 00:01:11,374 He was always encouraging. 18 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:14,167 And his biggest thing was unity. 19 00:01:14,292 --> 00:01:16,875 He loved music, and he loved his kids. 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,082 That was his life. 21 00:01:19,083 --> 00:01:21,249 He was a fan of all music. 22 00:01:21,250 --> 00:01:24,375 Kurt Cobain, that was one of his idols. 23 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:28,457 And he took that moniker, and thus Rob Cobain was born. 24 00:01:28,458 --> 00:01:30,750 He was just a phenomenal artist. 25 00:01:30,875 --> 00:01:35,791 But as a father and an artist, his story got cut short. 26 00:01:35,792 --> 00:01:39,208 He definitely did not deserve this. 27 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,374 We're all just so heartbroken. 28 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:43,041 ♪ I must be Captain Planet ♪ 29 00:01:43,042 --> 00:01:44,667 ♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪ 30 00:01:44,792 --> 00:01:46,207 ♪ My little heart is damaged ♪ 31 00:01:46,208 --> 00:01:49,207 ♪ Heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪ 32 00:01:49,208 --> 00:01:50,707 ♪ I'm heartbroken, heartbroken ♪ 33 00:01:50,708 --> 00:01:52,082 ♪ Whoo ♪ 34 00:02:09,292 --> 00:02:10,749 In North Charleston's 35 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:12,500 Forest Hills neighborhood, 36 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:17,083 the property manager of an apartment complex calls 911. 37 00:02:51,583 --> 00:02:53,208 Is that your apartment? 38 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:55,875 Do we know whose apartment that is? 39 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:05,000 115 to dispatch, this appears to be a shooting. 40 00:03:05,125 --> 00:03:07,167 I'm clearing the apartment. 41 00:03:07,292 --> 00:03:08,833 North Charleston Police Department. 42 00:03:14,125 --> 00:03:15,708 Hey, EMS, you guys are clear. 43 00:03:20,708 --> 00:03:21,708 Check on him. 44 00:03:26,208 --> 00:03:27,500 OK. 45 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,417 115 to dispatch, this can be a confirmed 10-7. 46 00:03:43,958 --> 00:03:45,333 232 en route, arrived. 47 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:46,916 232. 48 00:03:46,917 --> 00:03:48,458 Detectives on scene. 49 00:03:58,042 --> 00:03:59,124 What's up, man? 50 00:03:59,125 --> 00:04:00,625 What up? 51 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,542 This next-door neighbor at 5:00 a.m. heard two bangs. 52 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:06,667 Two loud bangs. 53 00:04:06,792 --> 00:04:09,207 She thought it was a car accident or whatever. 54 00:04:09,208 --> 00:04:10,500 At around 10:00-ish, 55 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:12,707 she noticed the glass was shattered. 56 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:15,667 And then at that point, she called for the maintenance. 57 00:04:15,792 --> 00:04:16,874 When the maintenance man 58 00:04:16,875 --> 00:04:18,291 spotted the victim, 59 00:04:18,292 --> 00:04:20,000 he contacted the property manager, 60 00:04:20,125 --> 00:04:22,000 who called 911. 61 00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:33,542 40-year-old Robert Brown III, 62 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,042 known by his stage name Rob Cobain, 63 00:04:36,167 --> 00:04:37,708 was a local hip-hop artist 64 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:40,624 who also worked at a jewelry store. 65 00:04:40,625 --> 00:04:43,417 Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son 66 00:04:43,542 --> 00:04:45,833 with his ex-wife and a 13-year-old daughter 67 00:04:45,958 --> 00:04:48,207 from a previous relationship. 68 00:04:53,542 --> 00:04:55,041 The front door was locked when I got here. 69 00:04:55,042 --> 00:04:56,333 Deadbolted. 70 00:04:56,458 --> 00:04:57,542 I made entry through this hole right here. 71 00:05:11,083 --> 00:05:12,625 Check his body yet? 72 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:17,249 Rob was shot four times, 73 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:20,957 in the back, legs, and ankle. 74 00:05:22,667 --> 00:05:24,667 He's in his underwear. 75 00:05:26,208 --> 00:05:27,249 What is this, a PS4? 76 00:05:29,375 --> 00:05:30,874 They were maybe playing a game. 77 00:05:33,042 --> 00:05:35,167 Oh, there you go. Right there. 78 00:05:35,292 --> 00:05:37,249 So one shell casing. 79 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:39,917 The team finds a shell casing 80 00:05:40,042 --> 00:05:41,583 on the living room floor. 81 00:05:44,542 --> 00:05:46,958 Another one behind the couch. 82 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:51,707 And one in the front hallway. 83 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:58,042 Whoever it was, he was very close 84 00:05:58,167 --> 00:05:59,417 when they started shooting him. 85 00:05:59,542 --> 00:06:02,207 There's blood all over. 86 00:06:02,208 --> 00:06:04,541 There clearly was a scuffle at the door. 87 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:06,833 Guess is that him and someone else were fighting, 88 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:09,417 and that's when the shots started going off. 89 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:11,541 Maybe he's trying to flee. 90 00:06:11,542 --> 00:06:14,582 Could have been shooting at him and put one through the glass. 91 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:16,833 And then from there, he had collapsed 92 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,125 right in front of the couch. 93 00:06:20,458 --> 00:06:22,041 There's a bag of weed. 94 00:06:23,708 --> 00:06:26,625 His phone is in his back bedroom. 95 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,082 The original responding officer 96 00:06:31,083 --> 00:06:34,167 said he noticed that the front door was bolt-locked. 97 00:06:34,292 --> 00:06:35,500 The window was open. 98 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:36,957 I'm thinking that's how they went in. 99 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,083 Could be. 100 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:39,832 Not impossible. 101 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,000 There's a possibility this was just 102 00:06:41,125 --> 00:06:42,792 a random burglary gone wrong. 103 00:06:45,167 --> 00:06:46,707 My personal opinion, 104 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:49,457 somebody else was let in the house. 105 00:06:49,458 --> 00:06:52,500 Maybe possible girlfriend involved or something 106 00:06:52,625 --> 00:06:55,667 because he's in his underwear in there. 107 00:06:55,792 --> 00:06:57,749 And I don't think he would have been, like, hanging out 108 00:06:57,750 --> 00:07:00,332 with one of his buddies or another dude in there, like, 109 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:02,874 half naked or whatever. 110 00:07:02,875 --> 00:07:05,500 Right now, we have to canvass for video, 111 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:07,500 hopefully get lucky, because right now, 112 00:07:07,625 --> 00:07:09,082 we don't have a lot to go off of. 113 00:07:11,292 --> 00:07:12,083 It's gonna be a tough one. 114 00:07:19,458 --> 00:07:20,916 Can I ask you a question real quick? 115 00:07:20,917 --> 00:07:22,749 Did you hear anything earlier this morning? 116 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:24,707 Any shouting, arguing, or anything like that? 117 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:25,791 OK. 118 00:07:25,792 --> 00:07:27,582 All right, well, I appreciate you guys. 119 00:07:29,333 --> 00:07:30,792 Has anybody already talked to you? 120 00:07:31,875 --> 00:07:33,458 OK. 121 00:07:36,208 --> 00:07:37,792 Everybody must be at work. 122 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:41,417 Then... 123 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:44,041 OK. 124 00:07:44,042 --> 00:07:46,374 One of Rob's neighbors comes forward. 125 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:47,791 His ex-wife-- 126 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:50,417 know that they just got recently divorced. 127 00:07:50,542 --> 00:07:52,875 He has two kids, um, Journey, 128 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,582 and then he has an autistic son. 129 00:07:54,583 --> 00:07:56,500 OK. Did they live there? 130 00:07:56,625 --> 00:07:58,250 Sometimes. 131 00:07:58,375 --> 00:08:00,082 Rob's car was broken down, 132 00:08:00,083 --> 00:08:02,208 so his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife 133 00:08:02,375 --> 00:08:05,000 so she could get a ride to school. 134 00:08:05,125 --> 00:08:06,832 And you don't know him to have any drama 135 00:08:06,833 --> 00:08:08,167 or beef with anybody like that? 136 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:14,458 What are those two people named 137 00:08:14,583 --> 00:08:16,083 that would live with him before? 138 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:21,708 OK. 139 00:08:24,417 --> 00:08:26,000 When was that that he kicked them out? 140 00:08:28,167 --> 00:08:29,250 OK. 141 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:30,875 Thank you. 142 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:39,707 Two hours in... 143 00:08:39,708 --> 00:08:42,500 Neighbors next door made a call to her, 144 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:44,333 so she came over here to give us 145 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:45,542 a little bit more information. 146 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:47,042 OK. 147 00:08:47,208 --> 00:08:49,541 Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene. 148 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:51,042 Hello. I'm Detective Shaffer. 149 00:08:53,708 --> 00:08:56,041 So what's your relationship to Robert? 150 00:08:56,042 --> 00:08:56,917 We're friends. 151 00:08:57,042 --> 00:08:58,374 OK. 152 00:08:58,375 --> 00:08:59,208 Has there been any drama recently 153 00:08:59,333 --> 00:09:00,667 in the house over there? 154 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:03,166 Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that? 155 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:04,457 No. 156 00:09:04,458 --> 00:09:05,708 That's what we were trying to figure out, 157 00:09:05,875 --> 00:09:07,375 because he--honestly, he's not that type of person. 158 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:08,874 Right. 159 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:10,291 He's really a happy-go-lucky guy. 160 00:09:10,292 --> 00:09:11,500 Hm. So. 161 00:09:11,625 --> 00:09:12,542 How's the relationship with the ex-wife? 162 00:09:12,708 --> 00:09:14,042 Is everything good? 163 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:15,000 Yeah, they're fine. 164 00:09:15,208 --> 00:09:16,541 They recently just signed their papers. 165 00:09:16,542 --> 00:09:17,667 OK. 166 00:09:17,792 --> 00:09:19,082 But it wasn't a heated divorce. 167 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:20,292 It wasn't bad. 168 00:09:20,417 --> 00:09:21,375 Do you know him to be involved 169 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:22,750 in anything bad, like drug dealing 170 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,499 or anything like that, narcotics, 171 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:25,833 anything to that extent? 172 00:09:25,958 --> 00:09:26,667 No. 173 00:09:26,792 --> 00:09:27,917 He smoked a little weed. 174 00:09:28,042 --> 00:09:29,042 OK. 175 00:09:31,333 --> 00:09:32,541 What about friend-wise? 176 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:33,916 Who all would Rob hang out with? 177 00:09:33,917 --> 00:09:35,374 He was a ladies man. 178 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,582 He hung out with different girls. 179 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:40,082 He just had been going through some things, 180 00:09:40,083 --> 00:09:41,667 you know, going through a new divorce, 181 00:09:41,792 --> 00:09:43,333 trying to figure it out. 182 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:44,417 Yeah. OK. 183 00:09:44,542 --> 00:09:46,083 This summer, he allowed 184 00:09:46,208 --> 00:09:47,750 people to live with him. 185 00:09:47,875 --> 00:09:49,333 She gives to Shaffer the names 186 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,707 of Rob's former roommates. 187 00:09:51,708 --> 00:09:53,249 Did everything work out when they got moved out, 188 00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:54,792 or was it like a bad move-out? 189 00:09:56,625 --> 00:09:57,917 It wasn't that good? No. 190 00:09:58,042 --> 00:09:58,958 OK. 191 00:10:01,583 --> 00:10:02,667 This is wild. 192 00:10:02,792 --> 00:10:04,541 No, I know it's a lot for everybody. 193 00:10:04,542 --> 00:10:05,541 Thank you, ma'am. 194 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,208 As word of Rob's murder continues to spread... 195 00:10:22,792 --> 00:10:24,582 The manager of the jewelry store 196 00:10:24,583 --> 00:10:27,583 where he worked shows up on scene. 197 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:38,541 She says last night, 198 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:40,667 a woman picked Rob up from work. 199 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:46,750 What kind of car they left in? 200 00:10:50,375 --> 00:10:53,207 So he left last night from work with a girl. 201 00:10:55,042 --> 00:10:56,167 But that's the last time she saw him. 202 00:10:57,917 --> 00:10:59,000 Then... 203 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,833 Another possible break. 204 00:11:05,083 --> 00:11:06,667 Rob's neighbors remember that 205 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:09,333 he has a security camera in his living room. 206 00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:11,042 OK, let me go check that out real quick. 207 00:11:11,167 --> 00:11:12,374 Give me one second. 208 00:11:17,375 --> 00:11:19,625 Maybe that Ring camera was on during the whole incident 209 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:21,667 and just recording things, which would tell us 210 00:11:21,792 --> 00:11:24,166 exactly what happened and who did it. 211 00:11:24,167 --> 00:11:25,416 That would be huge. 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,750 The camera's on 'cause he's getting 213 00:11:37,875 --> 00:11:39,875 Ring notifications on his phone. 214 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,957 So we have high hopes for that. 215 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:50,000 We're hoping it's been on since this morning, 216 00:11:50,125 --> 00:11:51,750 which means that it just-- it would have been activating 217 00:11:51,917 --> 00:11:53,374 from whatever happened inside. 218 00:12:04,917 --> 00:12:07,249 My name is George Robert Van Tine, Jr. 219 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:09,749 I've been with the North Charleston Police Department 220 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:11,541 for 23 years. 221 00:12:12,875 --> 00:12:14,499 I spent just shy of five years 222 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:18,707 in the persons unit working violent crime and homicides. 223 00:12:20,375 --> 00:12:23,582 I'm honored with working in cold cases now. 224 00:12:23,583 --> 00:12:26,624 The department set up this unit to help bring justice 225 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:28,167 to the victims and the families 226 00:12:28,292 --> 00:12:30,250 where the case agent has moved on. 227 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:32,875 They've either been transferred out or they retired, 228 00:12:33,042 --> 00:12:36,249 and the case still isn't solved. 229 00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:38,333 Detective Shaffer has transferred back to the road. 230 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:41,500 So we're gonna continue looking into Lowell Drive 231 00:12:41,625 --> 00:12:43,874 and pick up where he left off. 232 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:47,457 Looks like in the report when Shaffer left 233 00:12:47,458 --> 00:12:50,917 the crime scene that night, his head was spinning. 234 00:12:52,375 --> 00:12:56,582 Probably had half a dozen potential motives. 235 00:12:56,583 --> 00:12:58,250 It could be a burglary gone bad 236 00:12:58,375 --> 00:13:02,750 because there is a window partially opened. 237 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:06,332 There's been indication that he is a ladies' man. 238 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:07,875 He's in his underwear. 239 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,583 So it could be something with a lovers' quarrel. 240 00:13:11,708 --> 00:13:14,583 The ex-roommate may have been involved. 241 00:13:14,708 --> 00:13:17,375 There was some type of argument. 242 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,917 And then there is a female that picked him up from work 243 00:13:21,042 --> 00:13:24,333 and who was the last person to see him. 244 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:26,249 Once Shaffer goes home, 245 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:28,667 evening shift starts running with it, 246 00:13:28,792 --> 00:13:30,333 trying to get into the victim's phone. 247 00:13:30,458 --> 00:13:33,208 Maybe there's some indication of who that female 248 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,874 that picked him up from work may be. 249 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:46,333 Seven hours in... 250 00:13:47,458 --> 00:13:48,916 Mm-hmm. 251 00:13:48,917 --> 00:13:51,375 Digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel 252 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,375 was downloading Rob's phone... 253 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:00,332 And found a text conversation between Rob 254 00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:02,792 and the woman who picked him up from work last night. 255 00:14:05,417 --> 00:14:07,500 Get her in here, see what she knows. 256 00:14:18,708 --> 00:14:20,167 Two hours later... 257 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:25,542 Amanda agrees to talk. 258 00:14:36,167 --> 00:14:39,000 I sent my husband over there after he got off work. 259 00:14:39,125 --> 00:14:40,332 OK. 260 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:42,916 All right, so you saw him yesterday, correct? 261 00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:45,000 Yeah, I picked him up from work yesterday. 262 00:14:45,125 --> 00:14:47,249 It was about 10 till 6:00, 263 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:51,083 and we went to the Publix to get a sandwich. 264 00:14:57,542 --> 00:15:00,249 And once you guys were there, what happened? 265 00:15:00,250 --> 00:15:02,875 We smoked for a little bit. 266 00:15:03,042 --> 00:15:04,708 And we watched "Yo! MTV Raps," 267 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:08,041 and we ate our sandwich. 268 00:15:08,042 --> 00:15:10,041 And we smoked some more. 269 00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:12,707 I don't know, like, why her husband 270 00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:13,917 would think it'd be cool if she goes 271 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:16,541 to some other dude's house and smokes weed with him. 272 00:15:16,542 --> 00:15:19,707 Is he, like, jealous of their relationship? 273 00:15:19,708 --> 00:15:22,082 It's weird. 274 00:15:22,083 --> 00:15:24,041 And I took off about 9:30. 275 00:15:24,042 --> 00:15:26,000 He walked me outside. 276 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,042 We didn't spend too much time outside because it was cold. 277 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:34,041 He just said, I love you. 278 00:15:34,042 --> 00:15:36,041 The last that I heard from him was last night 279 00:15:36,042 --> 00:15:38,624 when I told him I'm home, and he responded, 280 00:15:38,625 --> 00:15:39,916 the little heart thing. 281 00:15:39,917 --> 00:15:41,417 And roughly how long is the drive? 282 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:42,874 About an hour. 283 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:44,500 OK. 284 00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:48,416 And did he mention having any plans afterwards? 285 00:15:48,417 --> 00:15:50,750 No, I think he was gonna go to bed. 286 00:15:50,875 --> 00:15:53,666 He had to work today. 287 00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:55,207 How did the two of you meet? 288 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:56,499 And how long have you known him? 289 00:15:56,500 --> 00:16:00,916 Since April of 2016 in Northwoods Mall. 290 00:16:00,917 --> 00:16:02,042 She says she and Rob have 291 00:16:02,167 --> 00:16:04,332 been friends for eight years. 292 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:06,542 We had a conversation about Prince, 293 00:16:06,667 --> 00:16:11,249 the singer, and we've just been friends ever since. 294 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:20,333 Have you and Rob ever had, like, a sexual relationship? 295 00:16:22,875 --> 00:16:23,958 So it's just friends? 296 00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:25,875 - Exactly. - OK. 297 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:27,917 Is he--he's pretty cool with your husband? 298 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,707 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 299 00:16:36,333 --> 00:16:37,374 What was Rob wearing 300 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,541 when you saw him last night? 301 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,917 Um... 302 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:43,917 I think it was a black long sleeve 303 00:16:44,042 --> 00:16:46,707 just shirt that he had on, 304 00:16:46,708 --> 00:16:48,249 jeans. 305 00:17:06,042 --> 00:17:08,541 And do you know what his relationship was like 306 00:17:08,542 --> 00:17:11,000 with the guy that used to live with him? 307 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,333 No. 308 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,624 But he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend. 309 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:17,749 So what happened? 310 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:19,083 I don't know, honestly. 311 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:21,792 Rob just referred to them as houseguests, 312 00:17:21,917 --> 00:17:24,874 and I didn't ask too many questions. 313 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:28,333 The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about 314 00:17:28,458 --> 00:17:32,417 is his neighbor smelling the weed. 315 00:17:32,542 --> 00:17:34,749 And we did talk about that because he had his-- 316 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:38,083 he propped his sliding glass door open a little bit, 317 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:39,583 so it would air out. 318 00:17:39,708 --> 00:17:40,999 Do you know if Rob kept that door open 319 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,375 after you left? 320 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:43,708 Probably. 321 00:17:43,833 --> 00:17:46,875 He made me nervous because he didn't lock things, 322 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,041 that being one of them. 323 00:17:48,042 --> 00:17:49,375 Mm-hmm. 324 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,582 I'm sorry for your loss. 325 00:17:59,167 --> 00:18:00,875 Give me one more second. 326 00:18:07,542 --> 00:18:09,875 It does sound like her and the victim 327 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,750 had a good friendship. 328 00:18:11,875 --> 00:18:15,250 Since she says that her husband was cool with it, 329 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:18,207 we do plan on following up with the husband 330 00:18:18,208 --> 00:18:20,500 just to make sure that there wasn't any type 331 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,749 of jealousy on his end. 332 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:24,250 Yeah. 333 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,375 From glancing at this, 334 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,374 Shaffer did talk to Amanda's husband, 335 00:18:34,375 --> 00:18:38,500 and it seemed like he was OK with his wife going over there, 336 00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:41,374 that he knew the victim and he didn't 337 00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:42,875 have any issues with him. 338 00:18:43,042 --> 00:18:45,541 He did not feel the husband was involved. 339 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:47,874 So after the shift ended, they were no closer 340 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:49,749 to a motive behind this. 341 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:54,625 According to witnesses, Rob was a ladies' man. 342 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:57,875 So Shaffer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing 343 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,667 and track down the couple that used to live with the victim. 344 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:05,749 And he also wanted access to the footage 345 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:08,458 on the phone, a Ring camera that was inside 346 00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:12,042 the victim's home that may have the possible suspect, 347 00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:14,707 which would have been huge. 348 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:29,208 The next morning, Detective Parker Bush, 349 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:32,125 and Shaffer head out to try to find some of the women 350 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,708 that Rob had been seeing. 351 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:36,249 Could still be a chick. 352 00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:37,250 Sleeping around with different women, 353 00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:39,041 some chick could not like it. 354 00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:40,541 Well, that and then 355 00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:42,624 one of their significant others finds out. 356 00:19:42,625 --> 00:19:44,999 Yeah, and shows up there at the door going, 357 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,208 hey, can I talk to you? 358 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:47,750 And things go south. 359 00:19:47,875 --> 00:19:49,000 Yep. 360 00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:54,083 Then... 361 00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:56,374 Hey, sir, how are you? 362 00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:58,375 The team gets a tip... 363 00:20:02,667 --> 00:20:05,500 From Robert Brown's female ex-roommate. 364 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,667 She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend, 365 00:20:12,833 --> 00:20:16,625 who's Rob's other ex-roommate, may be the killer. 366 00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:20,874 OK. 367 00:20:20,875 --> 00:20:22,667 All right, well, I appreciate it. 368 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,708 All right, take it easy. 369 00:20:38,667 --> 00:20:41,207 Let's see what this chick has to say. 370 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,374 Hey, how are you? 371 00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:54,208 What happened? 372 00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:04,625 OK. 373 00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:09,500 She says while they were living with Rob, 374 00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:12,207 she and her boyfriend weren't getting along. 375 00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:16,583 How did it end with y'all and Rob 376 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:18,625 and staying at his apartment? 377 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:25,375 Rob asked them to leave because his daughter 378 00:21:25,542 --> 00:21:27,500 was coming back to live with him. 379 00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,624 And shortly after they moved out, 380 00:21:30,625 --> 00:21:33,083 she and her boyfriend broke up. 381 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:34,208 What makes you think 382 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:35,416 he would be the one involved? 383 00:21:35,417 --> 00:21:36,292 Was there bad things between him and Rob 384 00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:37,500 when they were living there? 385 00:21:47,042 --> 00:21:48,417 OK. 386 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:54,958 Right, right, OK. 387 00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:57,958 OK. 388 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:10,458 OK. 389 00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:11,750 We're gonna continue investigating 390 00:22:11,875 --> 00:22:13,416 and go from there. 391 00:22:13,417 --> 00:22:15,000 We have to go based off where the evidence takes us. 392 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,417 I know you said your intuition, but... 393 00:22:18,542 --> 00:22:19,583 Yeah. 394 00:22:25,292 --> 00:22:26,792 No, 100%. 395 00:22:28,333 --> 00:22:30,749 All right, well, thank you for your time, ma'am. 396 00:22:38,875 --> 00:22:41,541 It was basically woman's intuition 397 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,291 that the ex-roommate may have been involved. 398 00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:47,374 But Detective Shaffer did a search warrant 399 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:50,624 on the ex-roommate's phone. 400 00:22:50,625 --> 00:22:52,749 And during the time frame of the murder, 401 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:57,082 that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina. 402 00:22:57,083 --> 00:22:59,124 And I believe Shaffer spoke to that person on the phone, 403 00:22:59,125 --> 00:23:00,625 and he was very cooperative. 404 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,083 So I think he ruled him out. 405 00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,374 Detective Shaffer, in his notes and what he told me, 406 00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:11,291 seems like everyone he talked to, whether it be 407 00:23:11,292 --> 00:23:15,208 girlfriends, anybody, spoke very highly of the victim. 408 00:23:15,375 --> 00:23:17,957 And he got the sense that no one 409 00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:22,458 in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim. 410 00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:25,042 And everyone was baffled as to who would do this. 411 00:23:28,083 --> 00:23:29,708 Shaffer hit a dead end. 412 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,667 And so they had the Hail Mary of the Ring camera 413 00:23:32,792 --> 00:23:34,875 that was inside the victim's home 414 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,333 that would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it. 415 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,542 As the first 48 slips away... 416 00:23:50,667 --> 00:23:53,042 The camera covers the living room. 417 00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:55,541 Shaffer gets an update on the security camera 418 00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:57,499 in Rob's living room. 419 00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,707 But the Ring camera that was in there, 420 00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:02,583 the plan is inactive, 421 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,207 which means it will give you 422 00:24:04,208 --> 00:24:07,083 notifications and alerts, 423 00:24:07,208 --> 00:24:08,500 but it doesn't record any of it. 424 00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:11,667 It's live view only. 425 00:24:11,792 --> 00:24:13,958 So there's no video of the actual shooting? 426 00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:15,667 Nope. 427 00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:16,833 Oh. 428 00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:19,958 Can't get freaking lucky on none of it. 429 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:21,541 Back to square one on that. 430 00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:22,957 Felt too good to be true. 431 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,374 So yeah, things are going well. 432 00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:29,582 Everything's coming together nicely. 433 00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:32,541 And I mean that with the most sarcasm possible. 434 00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,875 Six days later... 435 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,082 Number one, I am so sorry. 436 00:24:49,083 --> 00:24:50,875 This is the worst way to meet someone, like I said, 437 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,500 in such a situation. 438 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,500 Shaffer speaks to Rob's mother. 439 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:57,875 He didn't deserve what he got 440 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 because the type of person that he was. 441 00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,707 Before I leave South Carolina, 442 00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:06,707 I need to go home with some kind of closure. 443 00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:08,874 - Yes. - Not just leaving my child. 444 00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:11,083 I want to help and tell you as much as I can, 445 00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:12,582 but it is ongoing, 446 00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:14,791 so there's a lot I can't tell you right now. 447 00:25:14,792 --> 00:25:16,208 What I can tell you is this. 448 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:17,750 There's two possibilities. 449 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:20,417 It was either a random burglary gone wrong 450 00:25:20,583 --> 00:25:22,125 or it was someone he knew. 451 00:25:40,958 --> 00:25:44,125 The team turns to Rob's ex-wife and daughter. 452 00:25:50,417 --> 00:25:52,582 Did your dad ever mention 453 00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:54,917 that his house got broken into previously? 454 00:25:56,542 --> 00:25:58,500 So tell me about that. 455 00:26:07,708 --> 00:26:08,667 OK. 456 00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:10,624 And did he tell you how he thought 457 00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:12,542 the person was able to get inside? 458 00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:28,499 Gotcha. 459 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,667 Like, what time of day did it happen? 460 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,333 So night time? 461 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:43,417 Thank you again for coming in. 462 00:26:43,542 --> 00:26:46,667 I'm sorry for y'all's loss. 463 00:26:46,833 --> 00:26:49,541 Give me one second, OK? 464 00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:53,875 He did get his stuff broken into a couple of weeks ago. 465 00:26:56,625 --> 00:26:58,500 And then I don't really see-- 466 00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:01,707 there's no calls for service over there. 467 00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:04,249 So if he did, he never reported it to us. 468 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:05,416 That's interesting. 469 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:07,749 We'll have to chase that down too. 470 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:10,416 We're just gonna keep talking to more and more people. 471 00:27:10,417 --> 00:27:12,082 We're hoping to get a bunch of video 472 00:27:12,083 --> 00:27:14,832 from the surrounding streets and surrounding areas, 473 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,041 hoping that somebody's camera somewhere 474 00:27:17,042 --> 00:27:19,792 caught someone running from the scene that we could track 475 00:27:19,917 --> 00:27:22,291 or someone jumping in a car right afterwards. 476 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:23,333 Yeah. 477 00:27:23,458 --> 00:27:25,041 We just need to get something. 478 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:36,875 Four days later... 479 00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:41,333 The team watches surveillance video 480 00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:42,832 from the grocery store 481 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,208 next to Rob's apartment complex. 482 00:27:45,375 --> 00:27:49,125 The victim's building is right here. 483 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:52,041 Right there is, like, right by where the window is at. 484 00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:53,667 We need, like, some video of somebody 485 00:27:53,792 --> 00:27:56,583 running from the scene or some [bleep]. 486 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,458 Otherwise, it's like a [bleep] "Dateline" special. 487 00:28:00,917 --> 00:28:05,291 So far, not a lot of luck. 488 00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:07,042 Then... 489 00:28:09,042 --> 00:28:10,999 Where the green thing is at. 490 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,791 A thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside 491 00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:16,500 of the victim's building at 4:15 in the morning 492 00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:19,667 right before the shooting. 493 00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:22,583 We think the murder time is around, like, 5:00 a.m., 494 00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:25,458 but this is about 55 minutes before that. 495 00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:29,082 This figure is just wandering around. 496 00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:32,125 Very suspicious to me 497 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:33,708 'cause he's not going into an apartment. 498 00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:35,374 He's not walking a dog. 499 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:39,417 He's just wandering around behind buildings 500 00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:41,041 in the middle of the night. 501 00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:42,457 I think the temperature that night 502 00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:44,874 was, like, 40 degrees or less. 503 00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,917 So it was cold as hell out. 504 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,916 And you're wandering around at 4:00 in the morning. 505 00:28:49,917 --> 00:28:52,917 So my curiosity is, why are you doing that? 506 00:28:55,042 --> 00:28:57,749 They're looking to break into somewhere. 507 00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:59,332 That's what I was getting a feel for. 508 00:28:59,333 --> 00:29:01,874 Like, are they looking for open windows and [bleep]? 509 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,333 The homicide, he did have his window left open. 510 00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:08,083 And his mother said that he did get broken into 511 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,541 a couple weeks ago. 512 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,542 Then I don't see him again. 513 00:29:29,542 --> 00:29:31,874 And then this video we're getting 514 00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:34,042 is from right about here. 515 00:29:34,208 --> 00:29:35,957 Shaffer pulls up doorbell footage 516 00:29:35,958 --> 00:29:37,791 they got from a neighbor down the street 517 00:29:37,792 --> 00:29:39,874 from Rob's apartment. 518 00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:43,791 This is at 5:12 a.m., minutes after we believe 519 00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:46,041 the homicide occurred, of an individual 520 00:29:46,042 --> 00:29:47,707 walking down the street. 521 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:54,624 Lowell Drive, 522 00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:56,832 which is where the homicide occurred. 523 00:29:56,833 --> 00:29:57,917 This could potentially be 524 00:29:58,042 --> 00:29:59,792 the same person from the video walking 525 00:29:59,958 --> 00:30:01,333 behind the apartment building. 526 00:30:03,583 --> 00:30:05,875 This guy is a potential suspect. 527 00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:14,292 But he's our best lead so far, as you can say. 528 00:30:14,417 --> 00:30:15,749 Yeah. 529 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:20,916 It's possible that it was a burglary gone wrong. 530 00:30:20,917 --> 00:30:22,708 He's laying down and someone was trying to break in. 531 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,333 Yeah. 532 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,750 Three weeks later... 533 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:32,957 Hey, Cason? 534 00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:34,541 Yes, sir? 535 00:30:34,542 --> 00:30:37,000 Detectives Cason Alex and Carlos Ochoajaya 536 00:30:37,167 --> 00:30:39,166 are working a case that they believe 537 00:30:39,167 --> 00:30:41,958 could be connected to Rob's. 538 00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:45,207 So I have a rash of burglaries 539 00:30:45,208 --> 00:30:47,291 in the Forest Hills area. 540 00:30:47,292 --> 00:30:50,208 And that's the same area where the homicide was. 541 00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:52,166 The most recent burglary 542 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:55,083 occurred around 10:00 last night. 543 00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:56,791 He went into the window of their house 544 00:30:56,792 --> 00:30:58,749 while everybody was inside the house 545 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:01,041 and just stole all their stuff. 546 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:02,916 The MO is exact same for this kid. 547 00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:05,374 I dealt with him before, where he likes 548 00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:08,000 to break into people houses while people are home. 549 00:31:08,167 --> 00:31:11,332 Alex realized the MO of last night's robbery 550 00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:12,874 matched that of a juvenile burglar 551 00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,083 that he arrested three months ago. 552 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:22,707 The case I arrested him for back in September, 553 00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:24,167 he broke in the house. 554 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,000 One of the roommates came home, confronted him. 555 00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,624 He pulled a gun out on them. 556 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,916 When me and other detectives went to go pick him up, 557 00:31:29,917 --> 00:31:31,333 he tried to pull a gun out on us, 558 00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:34,167 but we were able to stop him before he was able to do it. 559 00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:36,708 Charges against the juvenile for burglary 560 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:39,499 three months ago were dismissed. 561 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,167 So he may be connected into the homicide 562 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,583 because the MO is just the same. 563 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,375 The juvenile suspect was 564 00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,416 definitely on the street at the time Rob's murder happened. 565 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,500 So did she see the guy who broke in? 566 00:32:02,958 --> 00:32:04,916 The victim of last night's burglary 567 00:32:04,917 --> 00:32:07,167 was in her bedroom when it happened. 568 00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:18,000 So then, this morning, 569 00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,832 a neighbor gives her video footage. 570 00:32:20,833 --> 00:32:22,417 She see two Black males. 571 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,917 Out of that video that she sees, 572 00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:29,500 she identifies the juvenile. 573 00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:31,832 The burglary victim recognized 574 00:32:31,833 --> 00:32:33,041 one of the suspects in the video 575 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,582 from the neighborhood. 576 00:32:34,583 --> 00:32:37,707 He's the same juvenile that Detective Alex arrested 577 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,417 for the previous burglary. 578 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:44,207 So we think this may be our suspect from the homicide. 579 00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:46,083 It's possible. 580 00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:48,249 The fact that he was willing to pull a gun out 581 00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:51,332 on three officers in uniform, the fact that he actually did 582 00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:55,041 pull a gun out on my other victim and threatened her, 583 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,000 I feel like he could escalate that point, 584 00:32:58,167 --> 00:32:59,333 especially if he's inside somebody house 585 00:32:59,458 --> 00:33:02,249 breaking in there and they catch him. 586 00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:04,250 I wouldn't be surprised he would do something like that. 587 00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:07,832 Unfortunately, we don't have enough to arrest him 588 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:08,916 for this burglary. 589 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,875 So the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case 590 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,332 for those two. 591 00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:18,416 We're gonna follow up with the victim. 592 00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:19,333 We're gonna go out to her house. 593 00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:20,667 We'll start going around the neighborhood 594 00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,041 canvassing for video. 595 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,999 And then when we can get enough to charge them 596 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,208 with the burglary, we can pick them up. 597 00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:28,000 And while they're up here, 598 00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:29,583 talk to them about the homicide. 599 00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:34,999 Detective Shaffer, in his notes 600 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,292 and what he told me, he wasn't able to develop 601 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,332 enough probable cause or enough evidence 602 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,957 for that one particular burglary to charge him. 603 00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:47,957 And then Shaffer was beginning the process 604 00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:50,167 of being promoted out of the unit. 605 00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:54,374 Six months after Shaffer left the unit... 606 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,167 The property detectives, Detective Cason, 607 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,875 ended up charging that juvenile suspect 608 00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:01,875 with yet another burglary. 609 00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:07,208 When Detective Cason went to apprehend 610 00:34:07,375 --> 00:34:10,792 that juvenile suspect, he had a backpack, 611 00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:13,332 just like the suspect that is on camera, 612 00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:16,292 walking back towards his residence 613 00:34:16,417 --> 00:34:19,374 minutes after the homicide. 614 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:23,332 So that's a strong person of interest. 615 00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:25,917 So needed to somehow find some way 616 00:34:26,042 --> 00:34:28,083 to convince him to come to city hall 617 00:34:28,208 --> 00:34:30,542 to put him in a room and interview him. 618 00:34:41,292 --> 00:34:44,541 13 months after Rob's murder... 619 00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:46,457 That juvenile suspect just 620 00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,916 came in today to pick up some items from another case. 621 00:34:49,917 --> 00:34:52,041 So a phone, his backpack. 622 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,958 So I'm gonna try to interview him and see what he says. 623 00:34:55,083 --> 00:34:57,167 See if we can get him to admit to this. 624 00:34:58,708 --> 00:34:59,750 Hey, how's it going? 625 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,333 I'm Detective Van Tine. 626 00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:04,249 So you're looking to get some items back? 627 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:05,874 You're talking about, like, a backpack. 628 00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:07,083 You're talking about a phone. 629 00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:11,707 OK, Apple iPhone was seized, 630 00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:12,833 and then you said your-- 631 00:35:14,833 --> 00:35:16,000 I got you. 632 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:17,625 Do you always--how long you had that backpack for? 633 00:35:21,708 --> 00:35:23,707 We had some burglaries in the area. 634 00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:26,582 And I'm wondering if-- if I show you a picture, 635 00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:28,791 if you ever hit this place or remember it. 636 00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,333 Yeah. 637 00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:42,250 December 3rd, early in the morning, 2024, 638 00:35:42,375 --> 00:35:46,083 this place was broken into. 639 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,167 This window is open. 640 00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:49,625 This was shattered. 641 00:35:57,083 --> 00:35:59,875 The thing is, I think you do. 642 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:04,624 You would go into, like, different places, right? 643 00:36:04,625 --> 00:36:07,167 And so I'm asking about this particular one. 644 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,875 Get it off your chest. What happened? 645 00:36:14,792 --> 00:36:15,624 Let me ask you this. 646 00:36:15,625 --> 00:36:16,916 When you did these break-ins, 647 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,375 did you have someone with you? 648 00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,750 What do you do? 649 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,125 How do you get in usually, though? 650 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,417 You always go through, like, a window? 651 00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:37,624 This window is open. 652 00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,707 You ever go through this window and chill? 653 00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:55,083 Have you ever gone to a place 654 00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,458 where somebody lives while they're in there? 655 00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:04,333 Yeah, well, not knowing they're in there. 656 00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:09,375 When you go and chill in these houses, 657 00:37:09,542 --> 00:37:11,292 you usually have a weapon on you? 658 00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:16,583 You were arrested with guns in the past. 659 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:21,875 Right. 660 00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:39,333 The phone, do you know the passcode to that phone? 661 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,541 He gives Van Tine the passcode. 662 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:44,833 I'm gonna be honest with you. 663 00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:46,750 I won't be able to release it today, that's for sure. 664 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:51,707 Well, I got you. 665 00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:52,625 I feel you. 666 00:37:54,542 --> 00:37:55,917 Yeah, you're good. 667 00:38:04,792 --> 00:38:06,666 Just denying, denying. 668 00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:09,666 He mentioned that he did usually go through the windows. 669 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:13,000 And this is entry through a window unsecured. 670 00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:14,542 But I just don't have enough to say-- 671 00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,582 I don't have any DNA putting him there. 672 00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:19,333 I don't have any video putting him there. 673 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,667 I got the passcode to his phone so we can do the phone dump. 674 00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:24,374 So maybe there's something in the text message 675 00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:27,207 that will either rule him out or rule him in. 676 00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:34,667 The burglary suspect that we just interviewed, 677 00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:36,416 we did dump his phone. 678 00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:39,250 Unfortunately, there's nothing to prove 679 00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:41,249 that he committed this crime, 680 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:43,917 but he is still a strong person of interest. 681 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:47,208 As far as the community, maybe somebody knows something 682 00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:49,249 or he confided in somebody. 683 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:51,000 Maybe someone has some crucial information 684 00:38:51,125 --> 00:38:53,541 that will help solve it. 685 00:38:53,542 --> 00:38:55,500 I know this suspect commits burglaries 686 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,374 with other juveniles. 687 00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:00,083 Maybe they will cooperate 688 00:39:00,208 --> 00:39:02,125 and they'll be able to come forward. 689 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:04,499 I think the thing is just trying to-- 690 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:09,582 never giving up and just hoping that something will break. 691 00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,250 ♪ And I won't let them break me ♪ 692 00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:13,042 ♪ Them demons, they won't take me ♪ 693 00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:14,707 ♪ I keep spreading love ♪ 694 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:16,625 ♪ And you'll continue hatin' ♪ 695 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,708 Unsolved cases are never closed. 696 00:39:18,875 --> 00:39:21,375 ♪ Is what it is, I'm the last one standin' ♪ 697 00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:23,583 ♪ I'm the heartbreak kid ♪ 698 00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:25,082 I'm gonna do everything in my power 699 00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:27,000 to figure out who did this. 700 00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:29,167 Rob's life was taken. 701 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:30,708 Thank you. 702 00:39:30,917 --> 00:39:33,792 And so I feel it's important to let the families know 703 00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:36,583 we are still actively trying to solve it. 704 00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:40,874 Yeah. 705 00:39:40,875 --> 00:39:44,500 If it's been over a year or two years or three 706 00:39:44,625 --> 00:39:46,333 or ten or whatever the case is, 707 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,166 we're never gonna give up hope. 708 00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:49,582 We're never gonna stop trying. 709 00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,000 I'm never gonna quit on it. 710 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,167 Never. 711 00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:04,208 He made people laugh just by stepping in the room. 712 00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:07,041 He was just that silly. 713 00:40:08,958 --> 00:40:11,041 Just proud of him, you know? 714 00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,541 Never had nothing bad to say about my nephew. 715 00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:16,417 I just can't wrap my mind around 716 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:19,000 why somebody would do that to him. 717 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:22,167 Whoever did it, they took something 718 00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:25,542 away from me that could never be replaced. 719 00:40:25,667 --> 00:40:30,374 They took a daddy away from his kids. 720 00:40:30,375 --> 00:40:32,042 It's been a struggle. 721 00:40:38,292 --> 00:40:42,582 With Kingston, he doesn't understand. 722 00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:46,082 So he asks for him, and I can't really explain 723 00:40:46,083 --> 00:40:47,957 why he's not there. 724 00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:51,583 With Journey, it's a different type 725 00:40:51,708 --> 00:40:53,082 of difficulty, 'cause she knows. 726 00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:56,958 She's angry and upset 727 00:40:57,125 --> 00:41:00,458 because somebody took something so valuable 728 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:03,874 away from her, from all of us. 729 00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:08,041 And I want to be able to look at the person in their eyes 730 00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:10,582 and ask them why. 731 00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:20,167 Father God, we gather today in honor of Robert, 732 00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:23,249 hoping that this will bring justice. 733 00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:27,707 Somebody knows exactly what happened, 734 00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:31,707 and I pray that their conscience will allow them 735 00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:34,666 to tell somebody so that we'll know 736 00:41:34,667 --> 00:41:36,374 who did it and why. 737 00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:37,833 Put yourself in our shoes. 738 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,249 What if it was your family member 739 00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:42,500 and you know somebody know? 740 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:45,000 Wouldn't you want them to say it? 741 00:41:45,167 --> 00:41:46,750 It would help a lot. 742 00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:49,333 Please and thank you, whoever you are. 743 00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,416 I know you know something. 744 00:41:54,625 --> 00:42:00,167 In loving memories, Robert LaNorris Brown III. 745 00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,417 Justice for Rob Cobain. 746 00:42:05,542 --> 00:42:06,832 Say it loud. 747 00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:09,417 Justice for Rob Cobain. 748 00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:13,041 Justice for Rob Cobain. 749 00:42:13,042 --> 00:42:14,457 Amen. 750 00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:17,167 ♪ World ain't stoppin' ♪ 751 00:42:17,375 --> 00:42:18,624 ♪ Even if the people dyin' ♪ 752 00:42:18,625 --> 00:42:20,249 ♪ And their bodies keep droppin' ♪ 753 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,332 ♪ Heartbroken ♪ 754 00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:22,667 ♪ I must be Captain Planet ♪ 755 00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:24,333 ♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪ 756 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:25,917 ♪ My little heart is damaged ♪ 757 00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:29,041 ♪ Heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪ 758 00:42:29,042 --> 00:42:31,332 ♪ I'm heartbroken, heartbroken, whoo ♪