1 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:19,208 I love you, and I'll talk to you later. 2 00:00:20,583 --> 00:00:22,625 That was the last video message that I got from him. 3 00:00:24,083 --> 00:00:27,541 Bradly and I, we met at Vacation Bible School 4 00:00:27,542 --> 00:00:29,875 at the church that we attended. 5 00:00:30,042 --> 00:00:32,083 I was 14. 6 00:00:32,292 --> 00:00:35,249 Bradly was a type of guy that never met a stranger. 7 00:00:35,250 --> 00:00:38,207 He would drop whatever he's doing to come help you. 8 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:40,499 He was just amazing. 9 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,707 On January 28, it was a normal morning. 10 00:00:43,708 --> 00:00:47,374 Bradly got up, got dressed, got his lunch, 11 00:00:47,375 --> 00:00:50,000 hugged and kissed me and Oliver bye. 12 00:00:54,375 --> 00:00:57,000 It's just--never thought it would happen. 13 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,707 narrator: A quiet apartment complex on the north side. 14 00:02:01,375 --> 00:02:03,082 narrator: For homicide detectives, 15 00:02:03,083 --> 00:02:04,583 their chance of solving a murder 16 00:02:04,708 --> 00:02:07,749 is cut in half if they don't get a lead 17 00:02:07,750 --> 00:02:10,458 within the first 48 hours. 18 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:35,792 Hey, Lawson. 19 00:02:35,917 --> 00:02:39,582 10:15, we got a call that one of the vendors that does 20 00:02:39,583 --> 00:02:42,667 pest control was found shot in front one of the buildings. 21 00:02:42,792 --> 00:02:44,208 OK. 22 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:45,833 What's the victim's name? 23 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,125 - Bradly Jordan. - Bradly Jordan. 24 00:02:49,667 --> 00:02:52,541 narrator: 23-year-old Bradly Jordan was the first 25 00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:54,500 of his family to graduate from high school, 26 00:02:54,625 --> 00:02:57,541 and work with his father in the pest control industry. 27 00:02:57,542 --> 00:02:59,833 He married his high school sweetheart, 28 00:02:59,958 --> 00:03:01,875 Hannah, just four months ago. 29 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,208 And they had a one-year-old son. 30 00:03:04,375 --> 00:03:06,874 Bradly also leaves behind his parents 31 00:03:06,875 --> 00:03:08,625 and three siblings. 32 00:03:16,042 --> 00:03:17,542 That's a lot of blood. 33 00:03:26,083 --> 00:03:28,000 Just one entry here it looks like. 34 00:03:28,125 --> 00:03:29,542 - Behind his left ear? - Yes. 35 00:03:32,875 --> 00:03:34,833 narrator: Bradly was shot once in the head 36 00:03:34,958 --> 00:03:36,708 at close range. 37 00:03:36,833 --> 00:03:39,249 We have a shell casing next to the body. 38 00:03:39,250 --> 00:03:42,707 It's next to the front wheel of that black vehicle. 39 00:03:42,708 --> 00:03:46,000 narrator: The casing is a 9-millimeter. 40 00:03:46,125 --> 00:03:47,541 He has a can right next to him. 41 00:03:47,542 --> 00:03:49,792 That's the cans that they use to spray. 42 00:03:51,167 --> 00:03:53,666 My guess is he's coming down with the can. 43 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,707 He's coming back to his vehicle and he gets shot. 44 00:03:56,708 --> 00:03:59,708 Gets executed in the back of his head. 45 00:03:59,875 --> 00:04:01,833 narrator: Detectives believe the shooter walked up 46 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:05,624 behind Bradly, catching him by surprise. 47 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:07,416 His pants are tight enough to see his 48 00:04:07,417 --> 00:04:09,750 wallet and his phone in the pockets. 49 00:04:11,083 --> 00:04:12,792 You can get that phone in his pocket. 50 00:04:14,833 --> 00:04:16,874 It was already set to never auto-lock. 51 00:04:16,875 --> 00:04:20,207 narrator: The team searches Bradly's recent messages... 52 00:04:20,208 --> 00:04:21,958 "To my one and only." 53 00:04:22,958 --> 00:04:25,124 This morning it says, "Babe, call me, babe, call me. 54 00:04:25,125 --> 00:04:26,750 Please, I love you." 55 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:28,750 It's probably his wife. 56 00:04:28,875 --> 00:04:31,333 - What time was that all after? - It was all after. 57 00:04:31,542 --> 00:04:33,874 narrator: And find several missed calls and texts 58 00:04:33,875 --> 00:04:35,417 from family. 59 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:38,457 I don't know. 60 00:04:38,458 --> 00:04:40,749 I gotta figure out why that would be executed 61 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:42,917 in a breezeway while he's at work. 62 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:53,125 OK. 63 00:04:53,250 --> 00:04:54,417 narrator: Bradly's father, 64 00:04:54,542 --> 00:04:56,207 who also works for the pest control company, 65 00:04:56,208 --> 00:04:59,042 rushed to the scene after hearing one of his co-workers 66 00:04:59,167 --> 00:05:00,333 had been shot. 67 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:02,792 Were you and him working today together? 68 00:05:04,458 --> 00:05:06,333 How often does he come here? 69 00:05:07,125 --> 00:05:08,667 Every week? Same day, every week? 70 00:05:09,333 --> 00:05:10,583 Same time every week? 71 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:32,042 Do you want me to see if I can send a unit over there? 72 00:05:33,708 --> 00:05:34,708 OK. 73 00:05:39,875 --> 00:05:41,291 narrator: One hour in... 74 00:05:41,292 --> 00:05:43,041 OK, if you could just tell me everything 75 00:05:43,042 --> 00:05:45,167 from the beginning, as much detail as you can. 76 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:47,707 narrator: Lawson interviews one of the 911 77 00:05:47,708 --> 00:05:49,582 callers in her apartment. 78 00:06:11,542 --> 00:06:13,291 narrator: She says the shooter ran toward 79 00:06:13,292 --> 00:06:15,417 an apartment complex across the street. 80 00:06:23,125 --> 00:06:24,458 And the clothing? 81 00:06:29,542 --> 00:06:31,875 Any facial hair or anything like that? 82 00:06:36,875 --> 00:06:40,041 OK, did you hear anything said? 83 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:42,500 Arguing--nothing? OK. 84 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:58,083 There was no argument, he didn't rob him. 85 00:06:58,208 --> 00:06:59,457 He didn't take anything from him. 86 00:06:59,458 --> 00:07:01,708 He just freakin' straight out executes this guy? 87 00:07:03,083 --> 00:07:04,042 That makes no sense. 88 00:07:07,042 --> 00:07:08,667 I'm going to go start canvassing for cameras 89 00:07:08,792 --> 00:07:10,833 to see if I see anything on apartments. 90 00:07:10,958 --> 00:07:13,333 narrator: While the team searches for video 91 00:07:13,458 --> 00:07:15,750 in the complex where the shooting occurred... 92 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:18,916 The female said they ran through here. 93 00:07:18,917 --> 00:07:20,666 narrator: The canine unit hopes to pick up 94 00:07:20,667 --> 00:07:22,707 the suspect's trail. 95 00:07:44,208 --> 00:07:47,457 He's picking something up over here. 96 00:07:47,458 --> 00:07:49,249 Hold on, hold on. 97 00:07:54,458 --> 00:07:56,750 I don't have anything here, there. 98 00:07:56,875 --> 00:08:00,666 narrator: The suspect's trail goes cold in the parking lot 99 00:08:00,667 --> 00:08:02,833 of the apartment complex across the street. 100 00:08:05,458 --> 00:08:06,874 When our canines were tracking them, 101 00:08:06,875 --> 00:08:10,542 they traveled on this side, but this was already here. 102 00:08:11,750 --> 00:08:14,542 So this is where it looks like he slid down. 103 00:08:16,208 --> 00:08:18,541 And then there's some tracks that go that way. 104 00:08:18,542 --> 00:08:20,542 I'm going to photograph those as I go. 105 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:29,750 narrator: Two hours in. 106 00:08:29,875 --> 00:08:32,124 Let me talk to this maintenance guy. 107 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:33,833 narrator: Patrol finds a witness outside 108 00:08:33,958 --> 00:08:35,708 the apartments across the street. 109 00:08:36,958 --> 00:08:38,624 So what did you see this morning? 110 00:08:46,625 --> 00:08:48,167 narrator: The witness saw the man 111 00:08:48,292 --> 00:08:50,833 minutes before patrol arrived at the crime scene. 112 00:08:54,125 --> 00:08:56,667 What color was his shirt? 113 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:03,250 His pants? 114 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,707 OK, so the stain itself was it 115 00:09:18,708 --> 00:09:20,292 consistent with like, somebody falling? 116 00:09:27,833 --> 00:09:29,042 OK. 117 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:36,917 OK, do you happen to know a make or model? 118 00:09:39,792 --> 00:09:41,667 All right, thank you. 119 00:09:44,042 --> 00:09:46,416 The dog tracked to that spot where they saw him 120 00:09:46,417 --> 00:09:47,625 get in that van. 121 00:09:49,125 --> 00:09:51,249 The dog tracked-- there's, like, a muddy trail. 122 00:09:51,250 --> 00:09:53,333 And the witnesses are seeing him all muddy. 123 00:09:54,125 --> 00:09:56,374 That could be our suspect vehicle. 124 00:10:12,042 --> 00:10:14,917 It's possible that could be our suspect vehicle. 125 00:10:15,042 --> 00:10:18,291 So right now that's a vehicle we're gonna go look into. 126 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:25,333 Are you able to upload the video? 127 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:27,750 Yeah, the actual video is right here. 128 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:30,082 narrator: The team finds a doorbell camera 129 00:10:30,083 --> 00:10:32,042 next door to where Bradly was murdered. 130 00:10:32,208 --> 00:10:35,541 Right there. Ford Aerostar van. 131 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:40,166 See the van. - So at 10:03, 132 00:10:40,167 --> 00:10:42,707 we got him coming down through here on this camera. 133 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:45,874 narrator: A green Aerostar drove to the complex 134 00:10:45,875 --> 00:10:49,207 ten minutes before Bradly was murdered. 135 00:10:50,958 --> 00:10:54,125 That same van was seen parked at a complex next to here. 136 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 And a dog did track all the way to where he was parked. 137 00:10:59,417 --> 00:11:01,083 The van is missing a hubcap. 138 00:11:01,208 --> 00:11:03,499 narrator: Detectives are unable to make out 139 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:04,583 the tag number. 140 00:11:05,542 --> 00:11:07,875 They don't have cameras at the front entrance coming in, 141 00:11:08,042 --> 00:11:09,750 correct? - They're not working. 142 00:11:15,625 --> 00:11:17,000 narrator: The sheriff's office will 143 00:11:17,167 --> 00:11:19,333 search for the green Aerostar on cameras located 144 00:11:19,458 --> 00:11:22,292 at major intersections throughout Gwinnett County. 145 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:28,707 The property manager saw the vehicle 146 00:11:28,708 --> 00:11:31,000 yesterday between one and three. 147 00:11:31,167 --> 00:11:33,707 narrator: The property manager gave a description 148 00:11:33,708 --> 00:11:35,083 of the driver. 149 00:11:35,375 --> 00:11:37,500 Black man with glasses, he said there's prescription. 150 00:11:37,667 --> 00:11:39,333 Black frames. 151 00:11:41,625 --> 00:11:43,792 That's the second time they've seen this man. 152 00:11:45,208 --> 00:11:47,083 That van came in here yesterday. 153 00:11:47,208 --> 00:11:50,083 So he's obviously canvassing this place... 154 00:11:50,208 --> 00:11:51,917 - For some reason. - For some reason. 155 00:11:56,167 --> 00:11:58,582 Otherwise, this would be really random just to-- 156 00:11:58,583 --> 00:11:59,875 him to get shot out here while he's doing 157 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,667 his pest control work. 158 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:09,167 narrator: Just three hours in, the team gets a break. 159 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:17,374 On a Flock camera. 160 00:12:17,375 --> 00:12:19,874 narrator: 45 minutes before the murder, 161 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:22,749 A green Aerostar was captured on camera 162 00:12:22,750 --> 00:12:24,791 two miles from the crime scene. 163 00:12:24,792 --> 00:12:28,042 It's a green Astro van that's missing a hubcap. 164 00:12:28,208 --> 00:12:30,832 Same hubcap that's missing in this video. 165 00:12:30,833 --> 00:12:33,333 And they have a tag for it and the registered owner 166 00:12:33,458 --> 00:12:35,125 and it's a Black male. - OK. 167 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:40,374 narrator: The owner of the van, 168 00:12:40,375 --> 00:12:42,082 26-year-old Roceam Wilson, 169 00:12:42,083 --> 00:12:44,042 grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina, 170 00:12:44,167 --> 00:12:47,125 and works as a cook at a local restaurant. 171 00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:50,916 Just because the car was riding through here, 172 00:12:50,917 --> 00:12:53,333 does not mean-- - That he killed him, no. 173 00:12:53,458 --> 00:12:54,833 - That he killed this guy. - I agree with that. 174 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,583 Let's take a deep breath. 175 00:12:57,708 --> 00:12:59,667 We got a pretty strong linkage. 176 00:12:59,833 --> 00:13:02,083 The dog tracking from here to over there. 177 00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:04,708 And that helps because now you have the people saying 178 00:13:04,875 --> 00:13:06,207 he was covered in mud. 179 00:13:06,208 --> 00:13:07,916 We have that vehicle description, 180 00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:09,500 they see this guy get in. 181 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:25,374 Our victim, unfortunately, you know, 182 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:28,082 he was just here for work doing pest control. 183 00:13:28,083 --> 00:13:30,292 So it's weird that this has happened. 184 00:13:32,583 --> 00:13:34,749 I definitely think it's personal. 185 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:36,249 Because it was one shot to the head, 186 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,792 there's nothing taken off the body. 187 00:13:38,625 --> 00:13:41,000 Hopefully we can figure out some kind of connection or why 188 00:13:41,125 --> 00:13:42,917 somebody would wanna do something like this. 189 00:13:50,167 --> 00:13:53,333 narrator: Minutes later, the case takes a turn. 190 00:13:56,708 --> 00:13:59,582 Gang unit officers spot the green van 191 00:13:59,583 --> 00:14:02,000 ten miles from the scene. 192 00:14:02,167 --> 00:14:03,583 - Where at? - Pleasant Hill, 193 00:14:03,708 --> 00:14:04,833 down that area? - Yeah. 194 00:14:04,958 --> 00:14:06,332 narrator: And find Roceam Wilson 195 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:07,208 behind the wheel. 196 00:14:10,208 --> 00:14:12,458 narrator: He agrees to talk at Homicide. 197 00:14:16,625 --> 00:14:18,958 narrator: And his van is brought down to headquarters. 198 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,208 Nobody saw him shoot anybody. 199 00:14:26,708 --> 00:14:30,374 I'm worried about the fact he didn't get in the van here. 200 00:14:30,375 --> 00:14:32,833 He got in a van across the street at the other complex. 201 00:14:32,958 --> 00:14:35,333 They didn't see him leave from here. 202 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:36,750 They didn't see him come from this complex. 203 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,083 No, no. 204 00:14:40,083 --> 00:14:42,500 Right. Right. So that's my problem. 205 00:14:44,667 --> 00:14:46,417 Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things 206 00:14:46,542 --> 00:14:47,667 where you have to play the hand that you're dealt. 207 00:14:47,792 --> 00:14:49,000 Yep. 208 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:52,042 narrator: Lawson heads back to Homicide 209 00:14:52,208 --> 00:14:54,667 to interview Roceam Wilson. 210 00:14:54,792 --> 00:14:56,958 We'll go up there, we'll go do our thing. 211 00:14:58,625 --> 00:15:00,249 When you deal with a homicide, 212 00:15:00,250 --> 00:15:02,167 when you can't find an obvious 213 00:15:02,375 --> 00:15:05,541 or even an underlining motive, it is scary. 214 00:15:05,542 --> 00:15:07,541 At the end of the day, we want to find justice 215 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:11,667 for the Jordan family and for the son as he goes on 216 00:15:11,792 --> 00:15:13,875 and does his journey without his dad. 217 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,333 I can relate to that. 218 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,167 You know, I lost my father at a young age, 219 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,667 I was six at the time that he died. 220 00:15:20,792 --> 00:15:25,707 He was involved in a car accident where it was suspected 221 00:15:25,708 --> 00:15:27,875 that the other driver was intoxicated. 222 00:15:29,458 --> 00:15:34,082 And so knowing that Jordan's son is gonna grow up 223 00:15:34,083 --> 00:15:37,208 without his father, that's a sobering thought. 224 00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:39,833 He will have a lot of resentment and anger, 225 00:15:39,958 --> 00:15:42,833 just like I had, but you can't hang on to that. 226 00:15:42,958 --> 00:15:45,791 You got to deal with it and--and move on 227 00:15:45,792 --> 00:15:46,958 to be productive. 228 00:15:47,083 --> 00:15:49,833 All I can do is be the best that I can be 229 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,874 and hopefully he looks down and he's proud. 230 00:16:01,083 --> 00:16:05,708 Right now, we're trying to establish PC 231 00:16:05,875 --> 00:16:07,500 for our homicide. 232 00:16:08,333 --> 00:16:11,832 We have no physical evidence against him that suggest 233 00:16:11,833 --> 00:16:16,083 that he is the suspect in this case, except for the van. 234 00:16:16,208 --> 00:16:18,082 So any point, if he decides to leave, 235 00:16:18,083 --> 00:16:19,458 we have to let him walk out the door. 236 00:16:21,042 --> 00:16:24,000 It's going to take us a few hours to search the van. 237 00:16:24,958 --> 00:16:26,917 It's important for us to keep him talking, 238 00:16:27,042 --> 00:16:30,042 occupied, so he does not leave. 239 00:16:32,375 --> 00:16:33,958 Clock's on. 240 00:16:35,542 --> 00:16:38,333 - What was his demeanor? - He was calm. 241 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,874 He didn't even ask really why I was doing what I was doing. 242 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:43,041 He wasn't like, agitated. 243 00:16:43,042 --> 00:16:45,167 Kept saying that he was gonna go clean his car out. 244 00:16:45,292 --> 00:16:46,291 It looks like he lives in his car, 245 00:16:46,292 --> 00:16:48,500 he's got a toothbrush, toothpaste. 246 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:51,707 But we're trying to build a rapport with this guy. 247 00:16:51,708 --> 00:16:54,707 Smith's gonna do the search warrant on the vehicle. 248 00:16:54,708 --> 00:16:56,458 We're gonna have to speed up this whole process. 249 00:16:57,917 --> 00:16:59,167 All right, you ready? 250 00:16:59,292 --> 00:17:00,792 Let's knock it out of the park. 251 00:17:03,292 --> 00:17:05,500 A lot's riding on this interview. 252 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:09,416 - Mr. Wilson? - Yeah, how you doing? 253 00:17:09,417 --> 00:17:11,750 Excellent. Sit right here for me, sir. 254 00:17:14,708 --> 00:17:15,792 Thank you. 255 00:17:16,792 --> 00:17:19,624 So we're just going to talk to you, get some information. 256 00:17:19,625 --> 00:17:21,874 Just trying to figure out why I'm here. 257 00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:38,083 Your vehicle is unique. 258 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:41,125 And so we have interest in your vehicle. 259 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:43,541 That's part of the reason that you're in this room right now. 260 00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:46,207 OK, I was just leaving the gym and I had to clean out 261 00:17:46,208 --> 00:17:47,833 my car because I'd been sleeping in my car. 262 00:17:51,958 --> 00:17:54,541 I work right there, I work at Hooter's, 263 00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:57,875 and I work at the Margot's, I make pizzas. 264 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,833 Which gym do you work out in? 265 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,250 LA Fitness off Pleasant Hill. 266 00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:05,167 So I mean I didn't do anything out of the ordinary. 267 00:18:05,958 --> 00:18:10,707 OK, um, what time did you go to LA Fitness to work out? 268 00:18:10,708 --> 00:18:12,333 It was maybe, like, 10:00. 269 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:16,957 At 10:03, we've got him coming 270 00:18:16,958 --> 00:18:19,207 down through here on this camera. 271 00:18:19,208 --> 00:18:22,042 LA Fitness at Pleasant Hill in Sweetwater. 272 00:18:22,208 --> 00:18:25,166 See if this guy has a gym membership. 273 00:18:25,167 --> 00:18:26,707 - OK. - And see if he scanned 274 00:18:26,708 --> 00:18:28,083 to go in this morning. 275 00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:34,083 Well, that's what we're trying to verify. 276 00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:38,667 narrator: Detective Brian Dorminy 277 00:18:38,833 --> 00:18:41,625 heads to Roceam's gym to check out his alibi. 278 00:18:42,875 --> 00:18:44,208 What am I here for? 279 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:46,833 You know, I know it's not illegal 280 00:18:47,042 --> 00:18:47,875 to sleep in your car, but... 281 00:18:48,042 --> 00:18:50,208 I didn't do nothing. 282 00:18:52,667 --> 00:18:56,667 We've had a real big rash of HVAC systems 283 00:18:56,792 --> 00:18:58,750 that are being stolen. 284 00:18:58,875 --> 00:19:01,417 narrator: Dunning tells Roceam they're investigating 285 00:19:01,542 --> 00:19:04,417 the theft of several air conditioning systems. 286 00:19:04,583 --> 00:19:07,041 - And damage and people are-- - No. 287 00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:08,333 I'm homeless. 288 00:19:08,458 --> 00:19:11,458 So I ain't out here stealing nothing or nothing. 289 00:19:13,083 --> 00:19:15,167 There's no stolen property in my car. 290 00:19:15,333 --> 00:19:17,167 I work. I get money. 291 00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:20,041 I did nothing. I'm a law abiding citizen. 292 00:19:20,042 --> 00:19:22,582 He's not been anything like anybody would normally be. 293 00:19:22,583 --> 00:19:23,791 No. Very calm, 294 00:19:23,792 --> 00:19:25,542 but he's not saying, "Hey, get me out of here." 295 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:31,250 I'm sure you know, everywhere you drive, there are cameras. 296 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:32,708 OK? 297 00:19:32,875 --> 00:19:36,333 You're in an apartment complex, at the same time that you say 298 00:19:36,458 --> 00:19:39,000 you're at LA Fitness working out. 299 00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:42,958 You've already decided you want to lie to us about 300 00:19:43,083 --> 00:19:47,207 where you were, and so that's why I'm asking you about-- 301 00:19:47,208 --> 00:19:48,833 Wait, What? 302 00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:53,499 Am I a suspect in something--why-- 303 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:56,124 So the cops pulled me over--what-- 304 00:19:56,125 --> 00:19:58,333 what happened, like, why am I here exactly? 305 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:01,542 I just got pulled over out of nowhere. 306 00:20:03,375 --> 00:20:05,707 Did you go to the Walmart today? 307 00:20:05,708 --> 00:20:07,500 narrator: Dunning asks him about the location 308 00:20:07,625 --> 00:20:09,583 where his van was seen on Flock cameras, 309 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:11,583 45 minutes before the murder. 310 00:20:13,083 --> 00:20:16,957 Uh, OK, yeah, uh-- 311 00:20:16,958 --> 00:20:19,167 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 312 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:25,374 I went to the Walmart-- so what time is it now? 313 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:28,124 So I went to Walmart before I went to the gym. 314 00:20:28,125 --> 00:20:29,542 Yeah. 315 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,624 And I probably took some back roads back. 316 00:20:33,625 --> 00:20:38,833 I probably made a U-turn in, uh, Sugar Mill apartments. 317 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:41,583 narrator: Roceam admits to driving through 318 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:44,667 the apartments where Bradly was murdered. 319 00:20:45,667 --> 00:20:48,458 Is that the first time you've been in Sugar Mill apartments? 320 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:04,000 Why would you say, specifically, yesterday? 321 00:21:04,125 --> 00:21:05,917 Y'all are looking for something 322 00:21:06,042 --> 00:21:07,666 that happened yesterday. 323 00:21:07,667 --> 00:21:08,750 I'm not. 324 00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:13,207 You got any tools or anything like that? 325 00:21:13,208 --> 00:21:15,374 Any wrenches, screwdrivers, blow torches, 326 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:18,374 anything that would assist in removing an HVAC system 327 00:21:18,375 --> 00:21:20,082 or anything like that from behind a business? 328 00:21:20,083 --> 00:21:21,416 Oh, no, no, you ain't gonna find 329 00:21:21,417 --> 00:21:24,333 nothing strange in my car. 330 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:28,958 narrator: While Lawson and Dunning 331 00:21:29,083 --> 00:21:31,000 try to keep Roceam talking... 332 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:34,541 narrator: Smith and CSI have a warrant 333 00:21:34,542 --> 00:21:36,458 to search the Aerostar. 334 00:21:36,583 --> 00:21:39,749 Khaki pants, a white shirt, and the muddy shoes 335 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:41,916 are something we're looking for, too. 336 00:21:41,917 --> 00:21:44,208 The gun is the most important for right now. 337 00:21:44,375 --> 00:21:45,542 9-millimeter. 338 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:52,250 He does have a notebook in here. 339 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:56,500 He's, like, suing everybody on conspiracy theories, like, 340 00:21:56,667 --> 00:21:59,417 he's suing Homeland Security, he's suing the government. 341 00:22:08,958 --> 00:22:10,542 They muddy? 342 00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:12,416 I feel like he went somewhere and washed the clothes 343 00:22:12,417 --> 00:22:14,375 'cause those pants look like they were wet. 344 00:22:16,042 --> 00:22:17,542 I need a picture of 'em. 345 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:22,625 They look like Crocs. 346 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:24,542 Yeah, those shoes, they look like slip-ons. 347 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:26,249 - Yeah. - And they're muddy. 348 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:27,458 - Yeah. - Yeah, mud all over 'em. 349 00:22:42,125 --> 00:22:43,333 9-millimeter. 350 00:22:57,625 --> 00:22:59,541 Take a picture of the gun. Just put-- 351 00:22:59,542 --> 00:23:00,792 so I can send it to Pat. 352 00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:07,874 So now I'm gonna take this gun over 353 00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:12,249 to the range, and we are going to have it test fired 354 00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:13,750 so we can get that round back over here 355 00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:16,167 and immediately try to compare it to the round from the scene. 356 00:23:16,292 --> 00:23:19,917 Will you text them, Matt? - Yeah. 357 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,875 Anything else that would be of importance 358 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,582 in your car that we should know about? 359 00:23:31,583 --> 00:23:33,958 Nothing strange at all? Outside of the trash, 360 00:23:34,083 --> 00:23:36,582 clothing, tools, weapons? - Nope, nope, nothing. 361 00:23:36,583 --> 00:23:37,833 Anything at all? I don't know. 362 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,249 - I have a weapon in my car. - OK. 363 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:41,249 That I recently bought. 364 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:44,374 It's a Ruger 9-millimeter. 365 00:23:44,375 --> 00:23:46,458 I just bought that gun 366 00:23:46,583 --> 00:23:48,417 because I was sleeping in my car. 367 00:23:48,542 --> 00:23:51,833 Somebody tried to, like, wiggle my doorknob and get 368 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,833 into my car one night, and I was, like, 369 00:23:53,958 --> 00:23:55,374 mad paranoid after that. 370 00:23:59,083 --> 00:24:01,667 Far as what you remember, you're working out today. 371 00:24:03,542 --> 00:24:05,750 I was at the gym this morning. 372 00:24:05,875 --> 00:24:07,707 You could check my movements, everything. 373 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:09,749 I went nowhere doing nothing with nobody. 374 00:24:12,708 --> 00:24:13,792 OK. 375 00:24:13,917 --> 00:24:16,000 Well, I'll just follow up on some things and see if we 376 00:24:16,167 --> 00:24:18,000 can get you out of here as quickly as possible. 377 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,208 - That's fine. - All right. 378 00:24:21,250 --> 00:24:23,708 narrator: One hour into the interview with Roceam... 379 00:24:23,833 --> 00:24:25,667 Here's the thing-- we're getting to the point 380 00:24:25,792 --> 00:24:27,417 where we're stretching out how long we're gonna be able to. 381 00:24:27,542 --> 00:24:29,167 Gun needs to be test fired, 382 00:24:29,292 --> 00:24:30,791 that could take two to three hours. 383 00:24:30,792 --> 00:24:32,541 We have to keep him talking 384 00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:34,874 while this whole process takes place. 385 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:37,082 - OK. - I was trying to stall this 386 00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:38,416 as much as we can. 387 00:24:38,417 --> 00:24:40,667 He keeps asking, "Why am I here? 388 00:24:40,792 --> 00:24:43,083 Why am I here? Why am I here?" 389 00:24:43,208 --> 00:24:45,541 I would just start putting the things out 390 00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,874 that we already know. - OK. 391 00:24:47,875 --> 00:24:50,333 When you said Walmart, "Oh, yeah, I did go there." 392 00:24:50,458 --> 00:24:51,875 And then he kept talking, 393 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,792 and then did you go anywhere else? 394 00:24:53,958 --> 00:24:54,833 "No, no, no, no." 395 00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:56,375 And then somebody said something about 396 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:57,707 the apartment complex. 397 00:24:57,708 --> 00:24:59,083 You go in the apartment? "Oh, yeah, I did. 398 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:02,082 I made a U-turn in the apartment complex." 399 00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:03,583 Every time we start to confirm with him-- 400 00:25:03,708 --> 00:25:04,624 "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah." 401 00:25:04,625 --> 00:25:05,832 He will backtrack. 402 00:25:05,833 --> 00:25:07,083 So we're gonna have to give him stuff. 403 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:08,667 You want to hit him with the muddy clothing first 404 00:25:08,833 --> 00:25:10,500 before you confront him with the other stuff. 405 00:25:10,625 --> 00:25:12,167 Because if he starts getting on the defensive, 406 00:25:12,292 --> 00:25:13,207 he may shut down. 407 00:25:13,208 --> 00:25:14,208 OK. 408 00:25:14,333 --> 00:25:15,333 - Good with that? - Yeah. 409 00:25:16,042 --> 00:25:18,458 Go back in and continue talking to him. 410 00:25:20,333 --> 00:25:21,625 All right. 411 00:25:22,917 --> 00:25:25,125 Detective Lawson wanted to discuss 412 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:26,332 something else real quick. 413 00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:27,917 We're in your vehicle right now. 414 00:25:28,042 --> 00:25:28,875 OK? 415 00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:31,542 And so one thing that I'm curious about is 416 00:25:31,708 --> 00:25:33,875 the muddy clothes that are in the front 417 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,582 of the vehicle, which is fresh mud. 418 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:38,041 How did that occur? 419 00:25:38,042 --> 00:25:40,582 Why would--what does the mud have to do with this? 420 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,208 Did you go into another apartment complex 421 00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:48,749 outside of Sugar Mills today? 422 00:25:48,750 --> 00:25:50,917 No, I did a couple U-turns. 423 00:25:51,042 --> 00:25:53,292 I was just joyriding, minding my business. 424 00:25:54,958 --> 00:25:56,333 So is there a possibility that you did 425 00:25:56,458 --> 00:25:58,750 another U-turn in another complex? 426 00:25:58,875 --> 00:26:00,541 Because here's the thing, I have witnesses 427 00:26:00,542 --> 00:26:01,875 that describe you. 428 00:26:04,917 --> 00:26:07,833 - No, sir. - Yes, yes. 429 00:26:07,958 --> 00:26:10,208 - And they saw the pants. - Yeah. 430 00:26:10,375 --> 00:26:12,417 The light-colored pants with mud all over them. 431 00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:14,707 Which are in your vehicle right now. 432 00:26:14,708 --> 00:26:16,208 That's why we're asking about this. 433 00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:17,417 No, no, no, no, no... 434 00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:19,749 So what is-- make us understand it. 435 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:21,374 No, sir. No, nope. 436 00:26:21,375 --> 00:26:23,416 I--nah, nah. 437 00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:25,083 I don't know what y'all talking about. 438 00:26:26,833 --> 00:26:28,792 Is he looking for this guy? 439 00:26:28,917 --> 00:26:31,082 To park all the way over there and walk, 440 00:26:31,083 --> 00:26:32,082 that's premeditated. 441 00:26:32,083 --> 00:26:33,625 So I don't know if there's some kind 442 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,917 of connection with him or that guy. 443 00:26:37,042 --> 00:26:39,667 At this point, it just doesn't make any sense. 444 00:26:39,833 --> 00:26:42,208 That gun's gonna tell it all, we're gonna know it soon. 445 00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:45,749 We're in your car. You've got a gun in your car. 446 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:47,500 I have a gun for my protection. 447 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:55,583 I need this weapon test-fired. 448 00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:58,833 It's a Ruger 9-millimeter. 449 00:26:59,583 --> 00:27:01,166 We're just in a time crunch holding this guy. 450 00:27:01,167 --> 00:27:02,833 We don't have much to hold him on so... 451 00:27:02,958 --> 00:27:05,833 Everything's just trying to go as fast as we can right now. 452 00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:11,957 There we go. 453 00:27:11,958 --> 00:27:13,541 Wonderful. 454 00:27:13,542 --> 00:27:14,375 I'll let you know if it matches. 455 00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:16,207 All right. 456 00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:18,207 narrator: Detective Smith will have the test fired casing 457 00:27:18,208 --> 00:27:22,042 compared to the shell casing found near Bradly's body. 458 00:27:23,083 --> 00:27:25,832 The dad of the victim said that he's a good kid. 459 00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:27,042 He goes to church all the time. 460 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:29,042 He's got a new wife and they have a kid. 461 00:27:29,167 --> 00:27:32,541 As far as this potential suspect, right now the motive 462 00:27:32,542 --> 00:27:33,833 is the thing that's really bothering us. 463 00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:38,875 What transpired for him to want to shoot this guy if he did? 464 00:27:44,583 --> 00:27:46,416 OK, well, here's the thing. 465 00:27:46,417 --> 00:27:50,500 At the apartment complex that you drove in at 10:03, 466 00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:54,042 ten minutes later, a person is killed. 467 00:27:58,417 --> 00:28:00,833 OK? And your description-- 468 00:28:00,958 --> 00:28:02,167 You got me in here for murder? 469 00:28:03,667 --> 00:28:05,416 Who got killed? 470 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:06,708 It was a guy from pest control. 471 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:08,374 Laying in the parking lot. 472 00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:11,792 Your description is given by--by witnesses. 473 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:16,167 Dude, I don't know what type of stuff y'all doing, 474 00:28:16,292 --> 00:28:18,250 but that don't have nothing to do with me. 475 00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:22,416 I ain't killed nobody, like I said, my stuff checks out. 476 00:28:22,417 --> 00:28:23,707 None of your stuff checks out. 477 00:28:23,708 --> 00:28:25,207 Your [bleep] ain't checking out. 478 00:28:27,917 --> 00:28:29,667 So, listen, y'all need to calm down 479 00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:32,000 when y'all talking to me, I'm not a killer. 480 00:28:32,125 --> 00:28:33,583 Well, right now it looks like you are. 481 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:35,000 I don't do these conversations. 482 00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:36,333 I don't know what y'all talking about. 483 00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:44,208 - He's flustered now. - Yeah, he is. 484 00:28:44,333 --> 00:28:45,124 He doesn't know what to do. 485 00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:46,541 He gonna rub his head or his belly? 486 00:28:46,542 --> 00:28:48,541 Both. 487 00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:51,375 He gets uncomfortable he starts rubbing his head, his belly. 488 00:28:54,208 --> 00:28:57,250 I was working out. All I did today was work out. 489 00:28:57,375 --> 00:29:00,833 I didn't do nothing, talking about killing people. 490 00:29:02,458 --> 00:29:04,874 Maybe perhaps you worked out-- 491 00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:07,333 Perhaps, I didn't kill anybody. 492 00:29:08,833 --> 00:29:10,749 Well, ten minutes before the killing 493 00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,749 you're in Sugar Mills apartments. 494 00:29:15,708 --> 00:29:16,833 And that's on video. 495 00:29:16,958 --> 00:29:19,125 Doing a U-turn. 496 00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:23,667 - So you say. - You can't-- 497 00:29:23,833 --> 00:29:25,542 I think you were doing a murder. 498 00:29:29,042 --> 00:29:30,457 Bruh, it wasn't me, bruh. 499 00:29:30,458 --> 00:29:32,582 And don't be in here talking to me like you crazy 500 00:29:32,583 --> 00:29:34,041 'cause I ain't killed nobody. 501 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:49,833 I'm not a killer. 502 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,417 I'm out here working hard, going to work, that's it. 503 00:29:52,542 --> 00:29:56,541 I got in trouble a while back for a burglary charge. 504 00:29:56,542 --> 00:29:58,583 I worked real hard to get off probation for that. 505 00:30:03,542 --> 00:30:05,375 You're not here just randomly. 506 00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:08,291 You have to call LA Fitness 507 00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:10,083 because I was at LA Fitness-- - OK. 508 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:11,958 And we've got somebody working on that. 509 00:30:24,958 --> 00:30:26,750 narrator: A half hour later, 510 00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:30,208 Dorminy gets video from Roceam's gym. 511 00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:34,083 So Roceam Wilson's right here. 512 00:30:34,208 --> 00:30:37,207 11:17, so it's an hour after the 911 call. 513 00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:39,249 narrator: Roceam arrived at the gym 514 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:42,083 an hour after Bradly was shot. 515 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:47,625 Basically in the middle of this workout area, 516 00:30:47,792 --> 00:30:49,958 doing a little bit of a press. 517 00:30:54,417 --> 00:30:58,082 I have a hard time believing that someone is that cold 518 00:30:58,083 --> 00:31:01,375 that they can go pump iron after taking somebody's life. 519 00:31:02,042 --> 00:31:03,541 I'd probably be freaking out and driving 520 00:31:03,542 --> 00:31:06,457 as far as I could, but that's not normal behavior. 521 00:31:06,458 --> 00:31:09,375 We have to see what that firearm suggests. 522 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,791 A lot's riding on the gun that's in the car. 523 00:31:12,792 --> 00:31:15,208 narrator: Then... 524 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:19,792 - In the mud? - Yeah. 525 00:31:19,917 --> 00:31:22,374 The shoe that's in his car matches the tread 526 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:23,583 that's on the scene. 527 00:31:44,292 --> 00:31:46,083 I'll give you another little fact. 528 00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:48,374 The shoes that are in your car, 529 00:31:48,375 --> 00:31:50,374 the shoe print, matches the track. 530 00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:53,250 - Dude-- - And I have--we have proof. 531 00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:01,917 I worked out, I did my regular-- 532 00:32:02,042 --> 00:32:04,542 Did you go to the gym after you killed that man? 533 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,333 And take a shower? 534 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,207 Did you go to the gym after you killed 535 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:14,042 that man in that apartment complex? 536 00:32:16,792 --> 00:32:18,375 I didn't kill no man, bro. 537 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:24,125 You trying to put this on me. 538 00:32:24,292 --> 00:32:26,707 Oh, we got so lucky this guy was in the area. 539 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:29,375 No. I didn't kill that man, bro. 540 00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:36,207 We've got your black Crocs with the mud on them. 541 00:32:36,208 --> 00:32:38,083 It's still wet to the touch. 542 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:41,333 Matching the shoe prints on scene. 543 00:32:41,458 --> 00:32:44,000 I don't care about--I don't want to focus on the mud. 544 00:32:44,167 --> 00:32:46,333 Everybody probably got mud on their shoes right now. 545 00:32:48,208 --> 00:32:51,207 Everybody probably got a 9-millimeter in their house, 546 00:32:51,208 --> 00:32:53,041 and why you not knocking on doors 547 00:32:53,042 --> 00:32:54,958 to see who killed that man? 548 00:32:55,083 --> 00:32:57,124 Whoever he was pest controlling, 549 00:32:57,125 --> 00:32:59,667 probably killed him. 550 00:32:59,792 --> 00:33:03,167 I've never been in no--no "First 48" office talking about 551 00:33:03,333 --> 00:33:05,999 murders--no gang activity, none of that crazy stuff. 552 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,667 That gun does not even leave the car. 553 00:33:17,292 --> 00:33:19,625 We're just all gonna stand over Britney's shoulder. 554 00:33:21,292 --> 00:33:24,083 This is the casing from the scene. 555 00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:29,417 We take a picture of the headstamp to see, 556 00:33:29,542 --> 00:33:32,625 like, what type of characteristics could be 557 00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:35,332 a potential case linked to the other casings. 558 00:33:35,333 --> 00:33:38,874 It's submitted so I just have to wait for an email for them. 559 00:33:38,875 --> 00:33:40,417 narrator: A firearms examiner 560 00:33:40,542 --> 00:33:43,332 will compare the markings on the two fired casings. 561 00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:44,708 How long does it normally take her 562 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:45,874 to look at them and compare? 563 00:33:45,875 --> 00:33:46,874 Not long. 564 00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:48,167 Like, within an hour. 565 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:49,667 If they match, he's done. 566 00:33:52,875 --> 00:33:55,792 We're gonna test fire that gun. OK? 567 00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:59,457 And we're gonna see if that shell casing from the test fire 568 00:33:59,458 --> 00:34:02,207 matches the shell casing that's next to the body. 569 00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:04,583 It's not that gun that killed that man. 570 00:34:07,708 --> 00:34:09,541 And that's the only gun you've ever had? 571 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:12,791 That's the only gun I ever had--weapon, I ever had. 572 00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:14,750 My gun didn't kill that man. 573 00:34:20,375 --> 00:34:22,667 - Anything Brittany? - Not yet. 574 00:34:22,792 --> 00:34:25,957 narrator: The firearms examiner is looking for tiny 575 00:34:25,958 --> 00:34:29,750 striations or grooves that appear in both casings. 576 00:34:29,875 --> 00:34:32,582 OK. No, we're still waiting. 577 00:34:32,583 --> 00:34:34,083 I mean, she's supposed to expedite it, 578 00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:35,375 but, no, we don't have it. 579 00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:37,625 They don't have patience. 580 00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:45,500 All right, got it. 581 00:34:52,708 --> 00:34:53,625 Ha! 582 00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:00,958 Go ahead. 583 00:35:01,083 --> 00:35:03,082 Hey, the shell casings match. 584 00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:05,916 Yes! It matched. 585 00:35:05,917 --> 00:35:07,417 - All right. - It matched. 586 00:35:07,542 --> 00:35:09,333 We're gonna finish the search warrant on the car. 587 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,042 - All right, appreciate it. - All right, bye. No problem. 588 00:35:12,208 --> 00:35:15,374 Was that Shelly that went, "Yeah!"? 589 00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:16,583 I've never heard him that happy. 590 00:35:16,708 --> 00:35:17,957 I didn't either. It's the best physical evidence 591 00:35:17,958 --> 00:35:19,333 we can have. 592 00:35:26,208 --> 00:35:27,542 OK. All right. 593 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:28,917 So guess what? 594 00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:31,707 Shell casing on scene matches your gun. 595 00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:33,208 No way. 596 00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:41,082 Your gun that is in your car matches the shell casing 597 00:35:41,083 --> 00:35:43,000 that is found next to his body. 598 00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:45,041 Period. Period. - I told you that was-- 599 00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:01,374 - Do you want to just let-- - This man was killed 600 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:05,417 with a 9-millimeter-- - With your gun, with your gun. 601 00:36:05,542 --> 00:36:07,042 He was killed with your gun. 602 00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,083 No denying that. 603 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:10,542 Tests do not lie. 604 00:36:10,667 --> 00:36:13,250 When it fires a shell, a round goes out, 605 00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:14,833 the shell casing has marks on it. 606 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:18,291 That shell casing next to this dead body comes from your gun. 607 00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:25,499 We've given you all the opportunity in the world 608 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,166 to try to explain what happened today. 609 00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:29,082 I'm not a murderer, bro. 610 00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:30,667 Stop talking to me crazy in here. 611 00:36:30,792 --> 00:36:33,666 Y'all need to investigate this. I didn't do it. 612 00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:34,708 We already found out who did it. 613 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:35,792 It's you. 614 00:36:38,208 --> 00:36:39,167 You're being charged with murder. 615 00:36:39,292 --> 00:36:41,082 No ifs, ands or buts. 616 00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:42,749 Your gun was used in the murder. 617 00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:44,000 You're gonna have to prove that in court, 618 00:36:44,125 --> 00:36:45,875 'cause I didn't kill anybody. 619 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,499 And especially no pest control dude. 620 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:54,499 I'm trying to find out why he died for no reason. 621 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,167 That's what I don't understand. 622 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,458 It's a life. It's a--it's a son. 623 00:37:03,792 --> 00:37:05,333 Why did he have to die? 624 00:37:05,458 --> 00:37:08,166 Look, this dude is not connected to me in any way. 625 00:37:08,167 --> 00:37:09,333 Like, I don't know what you're saying about-- 626 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,124 That's--that's the sad part of it. 627 00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:13,041 That is the sad part of it. 628 00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:15,417 We're done. 629 00:37:15,542 --> 00:37:16,958 OK. 630 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:24,667 This was definitely not an easy case. 631 00:37:24,792 --> 00:37:27,417 That was the most uncomfortable interview that I've done, 632 00:37:27,542 --> 00:37:30,333 and I've been doing interviews for a while. 633 00:37:30,458 --> 00:37:33,332 narrator: Just ten hours into the first 48, 634 00:37:33,333 --> 00:37:35,499 Roceam Wilson is charged with the murder 635 00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:37,000 of Bradly Jordan. 636 00:37:55,542 --> 00:37:57,375 He didn't want to admit to anything. 637 00:37:59,125 --> 00:38:00,374 The family obviously doesn't have 638 00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:04,874 any reason for this, and I don't either. 639 00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:06,500 Now that's kinda hard. 640 00:38:08,042 --> 00:38:11,500 I don't have anything that showed that this victim had 641 00:38:11,625 --> 00:38:13,500 put himself in a situation other than going to work 642 00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:17,207 that day to be a victim of a homicide. 643 00:38:27,333 --> 00:38:29,916 We're trying to get to a motive. 644 00:38:29,917 --> 00:38:32,291 narrator: Lawson gets a lead on a possible motive 645 00:38:32,292 --> 00:38:34,958 from the notebook recovered in Roceam's van. 646 00:38:37,375 --> 00:38:40,332 "Everyone there has the same license plate 647 00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:42,500 "starting with the letter R. 648 00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:45,375 "I did not realize I'd been targeted and they 649 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:48,082 "obviously tapped my Internet network 650 00:38:48,083 --> 00:38:50,041 and control the search results." 651 00:38:50,042 --> 00:38:52,541 narrator: Roceam's writings suggest he believed 652 00:38:52,542 --> 00:38:54,750 he was being followed by government officials, 653 00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:58,667 and that all of their license plates contain the letter R. 654 00:39:02,417 --> 00:39:06,583 That has an R in it. R. 655 00:39:06,708 --> 00:39:09,666 narrator: In Roceam's phone, Lawson finds several photos 656 00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:12,541 of license plates with the letter R. 657 00:39:12,542 --> 00:39:15,541 Every single car that he comes across. 658 00:39:15,542 --> 00:39:17,833 He takes a picture while he's operating his vehicle. 659 00:39:17,958 --> 00:39:20,542 All of these people are potential victims. 660 00:39:22,208 --> 00:39:23,999 It's crazy. 661 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,583 Just timing, circumstances. 662 00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:29,333 It just happens to be that the vehicle that belonged 663 00:39:29,458 --> 00:39:31,875 to your victim had a license plate that starts with R. 664 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,333 He takes pictures of our victim at 10:01, 665 00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:40,041 inside the Sugar Mill apartments. 666 00:39:40,042 --> 00:39:43,500 So he's already focused on, "Oh, here's another person 667 00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:47,416 that's following me or is controlled by the government." 668 00:39:47,417 --> 00:39:50,500 The tag displayed on his vehicle just happened 669 00:39:50,625 --> 00:39:53,333 to contain a letter that set Mr. Wilson off. 670 00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:59,249 Moving forward, is he competent enough 671 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,167 to stand a trial? - Yeah. 672 00:40:01,292 --> 00:40:03,542 He's seen on video ten minutes before 673 00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:06,208 near that building, but he had the wherewithal 674 00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:08,832 to park in another complex nearby. 675 00:40:08,833 --> 00:40:11,417 And that's rational thinking. 676 00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:13,542 Yes, it's twisted thinking, 677 00:40:13,708 --> 00:40:15,874 but that is of somebody that's competent 678 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:20,000 to reasonably fake out a plan to make somebody their victim. 679 00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:22,917 I have a strong feeling it would not have been his last. 680 00:40:46,708 --> 00:40:48,958 This was the first year he coached me. 681 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,541 He made everyone feel like they were important 682 00:40:53,542 --> 00:40:56,874 on the team, that everyone had a place. 683 00:40:56,875 --> 00:41:00,500 And he would run the bases with a superhero cape on 684 00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:04,417 just to be silly, to make someone laugh, to, you know... 685 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:07,958 'Cause that's the-- that's the person he was. 686 00:41:08,875 --> 00:41:12,583 He taught me to show people love that even didn't 687 00:41:12,708 --> 00:41:16,082 show us love, make everybody feel family. 688 00:41:16,083 --> 00:41:19,374 I just wish this guy would have known Bradly. 689 00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:22,792 You know, to know that you took someone 690 00:41:22,917 --> 00:41:24,667 that would have been there for you. 691 00:41:28,917 --> 00:41:31,874 I'm gonna miss most is the looks that he gave Oliver. 692 00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:35,874 Like, when Brad looked at Oliver, you could see the love. 693 00:41:35,875 --> 00:41:38,374 He loved being that father. 694 00:41:38,375 --> 00:41:39,708 But you know, it really breaks my heart. 695 00:41:39,833 --> 00:41:41,707 Oliver doesn't get to experience 696 00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:43,583 the great dad that he was gonna be. 697 00:41:53,292 --> 00:41:54,542 Mama, bird. 698 00:41:58,542 --> 00:42:00,374 Probably the top thing that I miss 699 00:42:00,375 --> 00:42:02,874 about Bradly is sitting here with Oliver. 700 00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:05,041 Bradly was probably the best father I knew. 701 00:42:05,042 --> 00:42:07,083 When he would come home from work, Oliver, 702 00:42:07,208 --> 00:42:10,708 he would run to Bradly, and he would be so excited. 703 00:42:11,958 --> 00:42:15,250 Oliver probably knows that he's gone, but he just, 704 00:42:15,375 --> 00:42:17,458 he's too little to actually understand. 705 00:42:21,167 --> 00:42:23,458 I'll just tell him, "Oh, your dad passed away when you were 706 00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:26,874 a year and a half," not go into the details. 707 00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:29,666 I don't think I could tell my kid that. 708 00:42:29,667 --> 00:42:31,250 'Cause then I wouldn't have a reason why, 709 00:42:31,375 --> 00:42:32,375 I don't have a reason why.