1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,800 ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,866 --> 00:00:06,400 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House," 3 00:00:06,466 --> 00:00:08,900 our experts travel across the country 4 00:00:08,966 --> 00:00:11,233 to answer questions about your house. 5 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:17,500 ♪♪ 6 00:00:17,566 --> 00:00:21,266 Today, Mauro is talking paint spills and how to clean them. 7 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:23,200 Oh! Mauro: Look at that. 8 00:00:23,266 --> 00:00:25,000 Kevin: I might not even put a drop cloth down, 9 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:27,200 that came off so easily. 10 00:00:27,266 --> 00:00:31,366 Then Heath gives a lesson on how three-way switches work. 11 00:00:31,433 --> 00:00:33,066 What do I screw into what? 12 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:34,466 Heath: It looks confusing, but let me try 13 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,600 and make it as simple as possible. 14 00:00:36,666 --> 00:00:39,800 Kevin: And Nathan and Lee team up to bring some curb appeal 15 00:00:39,866 --> 00:00:41,466 to a homeowner's front yard. 16 00:00:41,533 --> 00:00:43,166 Nathan: Less talky, more worky. 17 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:44,533 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House." 18 00:00:46,633 --> 00:00:49,033 ♪♪ 19 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:50,666 Kevin: Hey, Mauro. Mauro: Kevin, how are you? 20 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:52,233 Kevin: I'm doing all right. Mauro: All right. 21 00:00:52,300 --> 00:00:53,866 Kevin: Uh-oh. Somebody spilled some paint. 22 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:55,700 Mauro: Already. 23 00:00:55,766 --> 00:00:57,700 Kevin: You don't spill paint, do you? 24 00:00:57,766 --> 00:00:58,933 Mauro: Sometimes a little drop here and there. 25 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,433 But, you know, when that happens, 26 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:02,200 I try to clean it right away. 27 00:01:02,266 --> 00:01:03,366 Kevin: Okay. Mauro: All right. 28 00:01:03,433 --> 00:01:04,833 So we have here some rugs, 29 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:07,266 we have some hardwood floors, and we have tiles. 30 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:10,166 Kevin: All right, so I presume there's a technique for each. 31 00:01:10,233 --> 00:01:12,466 Mauro: There is. So we start with the rug. 32 00:01:12,533 --> 00:01:15,633 Okay. Let's put a little paint on this rug. 33 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:17,000 Kevin: You're just putting it in there. 34 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:19,733 Mauro: Yeah. I hope the homeowner don't see it. 35 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,900 Kevin: Seeing you do that, Mauro, 36 00:01:20,966 --> 00:01:22,833 makes the hair on my neck go up. 37 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:24,966 Mauro: Don't worry about it. I got the solution for that. 38 00:01:25,033 --> 00:01:26,533 Kevin: Okay. What do you got? 39 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,733 Mauro: I got warm water and soap. 40 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,566 Kevin: Just some regular detergent? 41 00:01:30,633 --> 00:01:32,400 Mauro: Just regular detergent. Just a regular one. 42 00:01:32,466 --> 00:01:34,400 So go in and attack right on it. 43 00:01:34,466 --> 00:01:36,966 But the key, Kevin, is like, no, wait. 44 00:01:37,033 --> 00:01:39,866 As soon as you see the paint on the carpet, 45 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:41,800 remove it right away. 46 00:01:41,866 --> 00:01:43,433 Kevin: Can I see that rag? 47 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:44,833 So you know if the paint's on the rag, 48 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:46,100 it's coming off the carpet. 49 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:47,866 Mauro: That's a good result. 50 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:52,666 I'm gonna wet my rag again on a clean spot. 51 00:01:52,733 --> 00:01:54,800 Go right back to the green rug. 52 00:01:54,866 --> 00:01:57,633 Kevin: So is this process basically just, you know, 53 00:01:57,700 --> 00:02:00,000 wet, dab, rinse, repeat? 54 00:02:00,066 --> 00:02:01,733 Mauro: Exactly. Kevin: And keep going? 55 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,133 Mauro: Keep going. 56 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,700 Once it's dry, it's going to be much harder to remove. 57 00:02:04,766 --> 00:02:07,166 Kevin: Once the paint is dry. Mauro: Yes. 58 00:02:07,233 --> 00:02:08,700 Kevin: So, you know, the green is gone. 59 00:02:08,766 --> 00:02:10,166 Mostly gone. I mean, gone to me. 60 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:12,766 I'm colorblind. But the carpet is still wet. 61 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:14,966 Not wet paint, but water wet. Wet to the touch. 62 00:02:15,033 --> 00:02:18,533 Mauro: Okay, so when it's still wet, you know what I do? 63 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,300 I got one of this guy here. 64 00:02:20,366 --> 00:02:21,666 Kevin: Get a little wet dry vac there. 65 00:02:21,733 --> 00:02:23,600 Mauro: Yeah, turn it on 66 00:02:23,666 --> 00:02:26,533 and we're gonna remove all the remaining green there 67 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,800 and the water with it. Kevin: All right. 68 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:43,300 So the proficiency with which you did that, 69 00:02:43,366 --> 00:02:47,300 Mauro, confirms that you've done that before. 70 00:02:47,366 --> 00:02:49,600 Mauro: A few times. I'm not gonna lie. 71 00:02:49,666 --> 00:02:51,033 A few times. Yes. 72 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:52,533 Kevin: That's impressive, though, 73 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,700 because I would have thought the carpet was toast. 74 00:02:53,766 --> 00:02:55,666 Hardwood floors. 75 00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:58,866 Now, I got to assume that if you've got a hardwood floor, 76 00:02:58,933 --> 00:03:02,733 it's going to be a lot easier if you get after it quickly. 77 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,433 Mauro: If you get after this quickly, 78 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:07,100 this is going to have a good result. 79 00:03:07,166 --> 00:03:08,700 Once again, new rag. 80 00:03:08,766 --> 00:03:10,166 Kevin: So same bucket of warm water and soap. 81 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:12,733 Mauro: Same bucket of warm water. 82 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,466 Go right to it. 83 00:03:16,366 --> 00:03:18,966 Kevin: Oh, yeah. No excuse. 84 00:03:19,033 --> 00:03:20,766 Mauro: No. Kevin: All gone. 85 00:03:20,833 --> 00:03:22,200 Mauro: So good again. 86 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:23,600 Kevin: No damage to the finish. 87 00:03:23,666 --> 00:03:25,366 Mauro: No damage to the finish at all. 88 00:03:25,433 --> 00:03:26,466 Kevin: All the paint's right there. 89 00:03:26,533 --> 00:03:27,633 Mauro: You see the green right there. 90 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:28,533 Kevin: Beautiful. Mauro: All right. 91 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,766 Kevin: That doesn't surprise me, 92 00:03:29,833 --> 00:03:31,200 but I'm glad that you brought this here, 93 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:32,833 because this is what I'm thinking. 94 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:35,166 A little spot. I've missed it. It's set up. 95 00:03:35,233 --> 00:03:36,900 So what are you going to do in this situation? 96 00:03:36,966 --> 00:03:39,400 Mauro: All right, first, what I like to do is 97 00:03:39,466 --> 00:03:42,366 get my vinegar and baking soda. 98 00:03:42,433 --> 00:03:43,533 Kevin: So you made a little mix. 99 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,133 Mauro: Little mix. 100 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,266 We're going to spray a little bit on 101 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:50,300 and we're going to try it. 102 00:03:50,366 --> 00:03:53,266 Sometimes it works. Sometimes we have to go a different way. 103 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:54,866 Kevin: You know you're saving marriages all over 104 00:03:54,933 --> 00:03:58,000 the country, pal, right? 105 00:03:58,066 --> 00:04:01,966 Oh, yeah. Mauro: That takes some off. 106 00:04:02,033 --> 00:04:03,700 Kevin: I'm still in the doghouse, 107 00:04:03,766 --> 00:04:05,833 Mauro, if I leave it like that, so help me out. 108 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:08,266 Mauro: All right, so next step, 109 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:11,066 we're going to use the denatured alcohol. 110 00:04:11,133 --> 00:04:12,966 Kevin: Denatured alcohol. Mauro: Denatured alcohol. 111 00:04:13,033 --> 00:04:15,100 I'm going to open this up. 112 00:04:15,166 --> 00:04:16,433 Kevin: There you go. Mauro: Like that. 113 00:04:17,533 --> 00:04:19,666 We're going to wet rag again. 114 00:04:22,966 --> 00:04:24,300 Just like that. 115 00:04:29,733 --> 00:04:31,700 And this should take care of that 116 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:33,733 a little faster than the other one. 117 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,366 Kevin: Oh, yeah. 118 00:04:35,433 --> 00:04:36,566 That's definitely getting it, right? 119 00:04:36,633 --> 00:04:38,166 Daddy's eating a home-cooked meal tonight. 120 00:04:38,233 --> 00:04:40,633 Mauro: Here we go. Kevin: Love it. 121 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:43,233 All right, I know you could take that the entire way, 122 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:45,766 but you've demonstrated that it's definitely coming off. 123 00:04:45,833 --> 00:04:49,166 And as I look at that, the sheen of the finish is still there. 124 00:04:49,233 --> 00:04:51,533 Mauro: Exactly. This is what denatured alcohol will do. 125 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,333 Nice and gentle, remove the paint 126 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,600 without disturbing the finish on the wood. 127 00:04:55,666 --> 00:04:57,600 Kevin: So this is great. 128 00:04:57,666 --> 00:05:00,933 I noticed that you've got a premium stripper right here. 129 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:03,233 Is this the next thing you go to 130 00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:06,133 if that doesn't work, or is this verboten? 131 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,133 Mauro: One thing. 132 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,000 When you use the stripper, not only it would take the paint, 133 00:05:10,066 --> 00:05:12,200 but it would take the finish from the hardwood floor. 134 00:05:12,266 --> 00:05:15,100 It all comes together. That's a no-no. 135 00:05:15,166 --> 00:05:16,733 Kevin: That's a no-no. Mauro: That's a no-no. 136 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,766 Kevin: Too far. Mauro: Too far. 137 00:05:18,833 --> 00:05:21,833 Kevin: Okay. So third example is tile. 138 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:23,666 We got it laid down right here. 139 00:05:23,733 --> 00:05:26,200 I'm presuming, given this type of material, 140 00:05:26,266 --> 00:05:27,833 that if it's wet paint 141 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:29,100 it's going to clean up just as quickly. 142 00:05:29,166 --> 00:05:30,500 Mauro: Just as quickly. Yeah. 143 00:05:30,566 --> 00:05:31,866 Kevin: What about if it's dry? 144 00:05:31,933 --> 00:05:33,566 And I appreciate you bringing this one here 145 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:35,500 where this is also not tacky and dried. 146 00:05:35,566 --> 00:05:37,533 How would you start on that? 147 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,500 Mauro: What I would do, I would go with the denatured alcohol. 148 00:05:42,666 --> 00:05:45,100 Kevin: Oh! Mauro: Look at that. 149 00:05:45,166 --> 00:05:46,933 Kevin: I might not even put a drop cloth down, 150 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,733 that came off so easily. 151 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Perfectly clean. 152 00:05:50,066 --> 00:05:51,566 Mauro: Nice and clean. 153 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:52,933 Kevin: And this is actually a tile 154 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,800 with a printed pattern on top. 155 00:05:54,866 --> 00:05:57,100 And you didn't take any of the printing off either. 156 00:05:57,166 --> 00:05:59,066 Mauro: Not even. 157 00:05:59,133 --> 00:06:01,833 Kevin: So what I'm hearing is speed is your first best friend. 158 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:03,766 See something, do something. Mauro: That's it. 159 00:06:03,833 --> 00:06:05,800 Clean right away, you avoid a lot of headaches. 160 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:07,633 Kevin: Don't do it right away, 161 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:09,700 you're going to have a problem with the carpet. 162 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:11,400 But at least you've given us a solution on the other materials. 163 00:06:11,466 --> 00:06:13,100 Mauro: Absolutely. It looks nice and clean. 164 00:06:13,166 --> 00:06:15,366 Paint off. Look like new again. 165 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:16,366 Kevin: Love it. Thank you, Mauro. 166 00:06:16,433 --> 00:06:17,366 Mauro: Thank you. 167 00:06:17,433 --> 00:06:22,666 ♪♪ 168 00:06:22,733 --> 00:06:23,933 Wow, Heath, you've been busy. 169 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,233 Look at this mock up. 170 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:27,100 Heath: Got a new hobby, Kevin. Kevin: I guess. 171 00:06:27,166 --> 00:06:28,100 You need better hobbies. 172 00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:29,400 But no, this is good. 173 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:30,766 Heath: So here's how it kind of started. 174 00:06:30,833 --> 00:06:32,566 I wanted to do a cutaway because I see Richard doing 175 00:06:32,633 --> 00:06:34,200 them all the time of showing tanks and everything. 176 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:36,266 It makes it really easy to explain things. 177 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:38,266 So I wanted to kind of explain how three-way switching works 178 00:06:38,333 --> 00:06:40,233 when you have multiple switches in locations 179 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:41,866 to control lights or whatever else. 180 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:43,266 And I've been trying to cut one open 181 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:44,666 to show the internals of it. 182 00:06:44,733 --> 00:06:45,933 It blows apart every time. 183 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,133 I get springs going every which way. 184 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,466 I just couldn't make it happen. 185 00:06:48,533 --> 00:06:50,300 So I built one instead. 186 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:52,333 Kevin: Richard's cutaway career is safe 187 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,900 but you're coming at him with a mock up. 188 00:06:53,966 --> 00:06:55,900 Heath: I'm coming at him with this. 189 00:06:55,966 --> 00:06:57,900 Kevin: Okay, so we're talking three-way switches, 190 00:06:57,966 --> 00:06:59,566 which I'll be honest, as you know, 191 00:06:59,633 --> 00:07:01,100 I've called you on this many times. 192 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:02,933 It confuses me and I think it confuses a lot of people. 193 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,466 Heath: A lot of people. 194 00:07:04,533 --> 00:07:05,866 It can be very confusing until you understand how they operate. 195 00:07:05,933 --> 00:07:07,533 Then once you get that, it's usually fairly simple. 196 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,333 Kevin: So how does a basic circuit work? 197 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,966 If we're just talking about a single switch. 198 00:07:11,033 --> 00:07:13,000 Heath: So to keep it simple, 199 00:07:13,066 --> 00:07:16,966 what we typically have is we'd have a two wire and a two wire, 200 00:07:17,033 --> 00:07:19,533 our feed and our neutral, and a two wire going out. 201 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,066 Kevin: And when you say feed and neutral, 202 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:23,666 just for my purposes, in this case, the white is neutral, 203 00:07:23,733 --> 00:07:25,300 the black is the feed. 204 00:07:25,366 --> 00:07:27,366 Heath: Exactly. So we'd have power in. 205 00:07:27,433 --> 00:07:29,100 And then when you close the switch, power back 206 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:30,400 out to whatever you're controlling. 207 00:07:30,466 --> 00:07:31,800 Let's say in this case it's a light fixture. 208 00:07:31,866 --> 00:07:33,366 So the neutral will be made. 209 00:07:33,433 --> 00:07:35,333 This will be open with the switch. 210 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,000 You'd close the switch, those would touch. 211 00:07:37,066 --> 00:07:38,700 You open the switch, it opens. 212 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:40,600 Kevin: Okay. And if we have two wires, 213 00:07:40,666 --> 00:07:43,100 then we need a switch, a simple switch. 214 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:44,900 Heath: A single switch. 215 00:07:44,966 --> 00:07:46,233 Kevin: So a toggle switch like this. 216 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:48,866 Two wires means only two screws. 217 00:07:48,933 --> 00:07:50,000 Heath: Correct. Kevin: Ignoring the ground. 218 00:07:50,066 --> 00:07:51,300 Heath: Ignoring the ground for now. 219 00:07:51,366 --> 00:07:52,633 We're just talking about the circuit itself. 220 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,366 So black wire there, a black wire there. 221 00:07:54,433 --> 00:07:56,400 It's simply open and closed, open and closed. 222 00:07:56,466 --> 00:08:00,433 Kevin: Perfect. So if this were just a simple switch right here, 223 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:01,733 it's very straightforward, right? 224 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Heath: Yep. We have our white wire, our neutral, 225 00:08:03,266 --> 00:08:05,700 going all the way to the light fixture. 226 00:08:05,766 --> 00:08:07,633 Then we have our black wire coming through. 227 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:09,066 Kevin: And if I turn the switch on... 228 00:08:09,133 --> 00:08:10,666 Heath: Goes to the light. 229 00:08:10,733 --> 00:08:11,800 You can see it's a complete circuit. 230 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:13,033 Kevin: And so we always have to have 231 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,666 that circuit coming in, coming back. 232 00:08:14,733 --> 00:08:16,266 So if I turn it off, it just breaks it. 233 00:08:16,333 --> 00:08:18,000 Heath: Just breaks it. That simple. 234 00:08:18,066 --> 00:08:19,900 It's just that one switch, on, off, on, off. 235 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:21,833 Kevin: okay. In a three-way situation, 236 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:23,600 we all know we now have two switches. 237 00:08:23,666 --> 00:08:24,900 One when you get in the room, 238 00:08:24,966 --> 00:08:26,133 one when you leave the room, let's say, 239 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,666 so that you can control from either side. 240 00:08:27,733 --> 00:08:29,500 Heath: So with that we just need a couple of different things. 241 00:08:29,566 --> 00:08:32,200 The first thing is we now need a piece of three wire 242 00:08:32,266 --> 00:08:34,066 going between instead of two wire. 243 00:08:34,133 --> 00:08:35,800 Kevin: Okay. 244 00:08:35,866 --> 00:08:37,700 So now we've got the traditional white, the black, 245 00:08:37,766 --> 00:08:39,766 but we've got the extra red. Heath: Correct. 246 00:08:39,833 --> 00:08:42,000 Kevin: And you said we need a new switch, 247 00:08:42,066 --> 00:08:44,800 which means instead of a switch with the two screws... 248 00:08:44,866 --> 00:08:46,666 Heath: Switch with three screws. 249 00:08:46,733 --> 00:08:48,000 Kevin: So the two brass and in this case a black. 250 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:49,400 Heath: Right. Kevin: Okay. 251 00:08:49,466 --> 00:08:50,900 And here's the hard part. 252 00:08:50,966 --> 00:08:52,333 This is what I always call you on. 253 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,233 What do I screw into what? 254 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:55,766 Heath: It looks confusing, 255 00:08:55,833 --> 00:08:57,333 but let me try and make it as simple as possible. 256 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,566 The easiest way for me to do this, 257 00:08:58,633 --> 00:09:00,066 and this can be done multiple ways, 258 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:01,666 I always take the black and the red, 259 00:09:01,733 --> 00:09:03,666 and I always treat these as my travelers. 260 00:09:03,733 --> 00:09:05,400 They're going between the two switches. 261 00:09:05,466 --> 00:09:07,833 Those are going to our two brass screws, 262 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:09,666 but we have a different colored screw, 263 00:09:09,733 --> 00:09:11,833 in this case that's black, that's our common screw. 264 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:14,466 Kevin: So similar screws are always the travelers 265 00:09:14,533 --> 00:09:16,100 and the oddball is always the common? 266 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:17,466 Heath: It is. 267 00:09:17,533 --> 00:09:18,833 Picture it just like a little flapper going between. 268 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:20,833 So this common screw is our base point. 269 00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:22,766 It just goes back and forth between those two terminals. 270 00:09:22,833 --> 00:09:25,033 Kevin: Connecting this to there or this to there. 271 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:26,933 Heath: Exactly. 272 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,700 In this case we're going to have two commons, one on each side. 273 00:09:28,766 --> 00:09:31,500 One's going to be our feed in, our power, 274 00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:33,766 and one's going to be the load out to the light. 275 00:09:33,833 --> 00:09:35,766 Kevin: So let's just look at what you've already wired. 276 00:09:35,833 --> 00:09:39,766 Here's our three wire, a three conductor in the middle. 277 00:09:39,833 --> 00:09:42,533 And if I turn this around, 278 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,800 you've taken the black and the red 279 00:09:45,866 --> 00:09:48,600 and immediately put it on the two similar screws. 280 00:09:48,666 --> 00:09:50,066 In this case, the brass screws. 281 00:09:50,133 --> 00:09:51,966 Heath: Correct. Now we know those are out of the way. 282 00:09:52,033 --> 00:09:55,766 Kevin: Okay. And then you're taking the other wire. 283 00:09:55,833 --> 00:09:56,766 Heath: Correct. Kevin: In this case, 284 00:09:56,833 --> 00:09:57,966 up to the light. Heath: Yep. 285 00:09:58,033 --> 00:09:59,500 Kevin: Or in that case, back to the power. 286 00:09:59,566 --> 00:10:00,700 Heath: And not breaking the neutral. 287 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:02,100 Which is why I chose wire nuts. 288 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:03,766 Kevin: So you've connected via wire nut there. 289 00:10:03,833 --> 00:10:05,333 You've connected via wire nut here. 290 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,066 Continuous path. Heath: Nice and simple. 291 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:08,666 So this is what we're seeing inside this box. 292 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,533 That white passes through 293 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,166 but is wire nutted straight to the light fixture. 294 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:15,900 Our power in to our common. 295 00:10:15,966 --> 00:10:17,900 Our black and red are our travelers. 296 00:10:17,966 --> 00:10:19,300 And it goes to the other switch. 297 00:10:19,366 --> 00:10:21,966 Kevin: And that allows us to do what? 298 00:10:22,033 --> 00:10:24,500 If I'm in one side of the room and I want to turn it on... 299 00:10:24,566 --> 00:10:25,833 Heath: Turn it on. Kevin: Can make the connection. 300 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:27,433 Heath: But if you want to turn it off... 301 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:29,800 Kevin: I can go and break it over here. 302 00:10:29,866 --> 00:10:31,833 Huh. So again, continuous. 303 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:33,466 Heath: Neutral's still intact, never broken. 304 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:34,866 Kevin: But here's where the break happens. 305 00:10:34,933 --> 00:10:36,300 Heath: And that's how that third wire helps. 306 00:10:36,366 --> 00:10:38,066 Now you can control from multiple locations. 307 00:10:38,133 --> 00:10:39,833 Kevin: And if you wanted to turn it on over there, 308 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:41,700 even though it's weird to put the switch down, 309 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:43,133 it makes the connection. 310 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,133 Heath: Doesn't care where you are. 311 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,733 You can come and go as you want. 312 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,500 Kevin: Huh. Look at that over there. 313 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:51,400 Okay, so I have to remember 314 00:10:51,466 --> 00:10:54,600 if I've got a three-way circuit set up 315 00:10:54,666 --> 00:10:57,533 and for some reason it's not working... 316 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,166 Heath: That's one of the number-one calls. 317 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:00,966 Kevin: Yeah, that's why I call you. 318 00:11:01,033 --> 00:11:02,900 I'm like, wait a second, I just put a dimmer. 319 00:11:02,966 --> 00:11:05,066 Heath: Yeah. So we usually see two things happen. 320 00:11:05,133 --> 00:11:06,266 The first one and the most common 321 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:07,633 is someone wants to install a dimmer. 322 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:09,133 A lot of times you'll see three-way switches, 323 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,433 either a kitchen or a dining room 324 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:11,666 where you come in one side and out the other, 325 00:11:11,733 --> 00:11:12,933 and they want to put a dimmer on that light. 326 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,066 Makes perfect sense. 327 00:11:14,133 --> 00:11:15,200 A lot of times what they'll do is 328 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:17,566 they'll get a single-pole dimmer. 329 00:11:17,633 --> 00:11:20,200 So it only has the two screws, not the three that we need. 330 00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:22,233 When they do that, they're only attaching two 331 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:23,833 and not connecting anything to the other runner. 332 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:26,066 So when you put the switch in one position, it'll work. 333 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:27,166 When you turn it off... 334 00:11:27,233 --> 00:11:28,533 Kevin: The other switch is useless. 335 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,100 Heath: ...it's not going to do anything for you. 336 00:11:30,166 --> 00:11:31,700 The other way we see it is if they have a switch that failed 337 00:11:31,766 --> 00:11:32,800 or they want to change them 338 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:34,066 and update them to freshen them up. 339 00:11:34,133 --> 00:11:35,800 When they take the old three way out, 340 00:11:35,866 --> 00:11:37,200 they didn't pay attention to what wire was what. 341 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:38,333 And it happens all the time 342 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,466 because you see a couple of black wires 343 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:41,533 and a red wire in there. 344 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,200 I got screws, I'm just gonna put them on there, it'll be fine. 345 00:11:43,266 --> 00:11:45,833 Kevin: Yeah. Why are you looking at me like that? 346 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,600 Heath: I feel like I've gotten that phone call. 347 00:11:47,666 --> 00:11:50,133 When it goes back in, a lot of times, the common, 348 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,566 either the power or the light ends up on one of the travelers. 349 00:11:53,633 --> 00:11:55,433 Same thing happens when that happens. 350 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,600 If one switch is in a certain position, it'll work, 351 00:11:57,666 --> 00:11:59,266 but when you put the other switch in the position, 352 00:11:59,333 --> 00:12:00,600 it won't work at all. 353 00:12:00,666 --> 00:12:02,400 Kevin: So is that why you like this configuration? 354 00:12:02,466 --> 00:12:04,466 Is that your sort of way of just kind of, you know -- 355 00:12:04,533 --> 00:12:06,000 Heath: It's the simplest, simplest way. 356 00:12:06,066 --> 00:12:08,800 So if you're not sure, if you're looking at something, 357 00:12:08,866 --> 00:12:10,533 just to take kind of the basic thought out of it 358 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,033 to make it really, really simple and standard, 359 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:14,566 I take that black and red every time. 360 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:17,533 Those are my two travelers. Those are to my brass screws. 361 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,866 The wire that's left that's not the neutral, 362 00:12:19,933 --> 00:12:21,600 the wire that's left over is simply my common. 363 00:12:21,666 --> 00:12:24,033 That makes it the easiest way to follow and troubleshoot. 364 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:26,133 Kevin: If you have a three-way circuit, 365 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,666 your switches have to have those three screws. 366 00:12:28,733 --> 00:12:30,166 Heath: They do. 367 00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:31,666 Kevin: And then you have to get that common wire correctly. 368 00:12:31,733 --> 00:12:33,666 Heath: Correct. Yeah. Kevin: Excellent. 369 00:12:33,733 --> 00:12:36,466 Heath: Once you figure that out, you can see how it operates. 370 00:12:36,533 --> 00:12:38,300 The rest is pretty simple. 371 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:40,066 Kevin: So the only thing that I have a problem with 372 00:12:40,133 --> 00:12:41,433 is the fact that in my electrical bag 373 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:43,400 with my lineman's, my tape, my tester, 374 00:12:43,466 --> 00:12:45,033 I don't have room for this, and I need to take this with me. 375 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:47,366 Heath: I'll make you a video. Kevin: This is beautiful. 376 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:48,666 Thank you, Heath. Heath: Thanks, Kevin 377 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:54,766 ♪♪ 378 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:59,700 Nathan: Hey, Jon. Jonathan: Hey, Nate. 379 00:12:59,766 --> 00:13:01,133 Nathan: How are you? Jonathan: Good, good. 380 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,500 Nathan: You wrote me about a fence. 381 00:13:02,566 --> 00:13:03,866 Jonathan: I sure did. Nathan: Let's take a look. 382 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:07,566 So is this where you're thinking about putting the fence? 383 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:09,866 Jonathan: Yeah. So what I'm looking to do 384 00:13:09,933 --> 00:13:12,966 or have here is some separation between, 385 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:15,166 you know, my lawn and the street. 386 00:13:15,233 --> 00:13:17,933 Because as you can see, 387 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,766 there's a bit of a low-lying area here from cars driving on 388 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:21,666 when they're either guests, 389 00:13:21,733 --> 00:13:23,533 sometimes neighbors who are visiting other people. 390 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,933 Nathan: Yeah. 391 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,766 Jonathan: And, you know, that killed a lot of the grass. 392 00:13:26,833 --> 00:13:29,733 And in general, I don't have any separation 393 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,866 between my property and the street. 394 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:34,900 Kind of like my neighbors do with fence over here, 395 00:13:34,966 --> 00:13:36,533 some bushes over there. 396 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,200 So it'd be great to have something here. 397 00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:39,566 Nathan: All right, I can definitely help you 398 00:13:39,633 --> 00:13:41,666 kind of define the space, put in a fence. 399 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:42,866 But we might want to bring in 400 00:13:42,933 --> 00:13:44,066 a little bit more manpower for that. 401 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:45,233 Let me give my buddy Lee a call 402 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:46,733 and see if he can come give us a hand. 403 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,300 Jonathan: Sounds good. Nathan: All right. 404 00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:52,100 John, I'd like to introduce you to Lee. 405 00:13:52,166 --> 00:13:54,566 Lee: Hi, Jon. Nice to meet you. 406 00:13:54,633 --> 00:13:57,100 Nathan: So we're driving over and we're having a conversation. 407 00:13:57,166 --> 00:13:58,800 And the first thing that came up was 811. 408 00:13:58,866 --> 00:14:00,100 You know, we want to make that phone call 409 00:14:00,166 --> 00:14:02,066 before we do any digging in the yard. 410 00:14:02,133 --> 00:14:04,066 They're going to come out. They're going to check for gas. 411 00:14:04,133 --> 00:14:06,100 They're going to check for water, electrical, 412 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:08,366 cable, anything that might be buried. 413 00:14:08,433 --> 00:14:10,466 So we want to make that phone call first. 414 00:14:10,533 --> 00:14:12,366 So actually I've already called 811 415 00:14:12,433 --> 00:14:14,133 and they said we are good to go. 416 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,533 Nathan: You were ahead of the game. 417 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,466 Lee: I think we're in great shape. 418 00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:19,166 We already have some existing cobblestones in, Jon, 419 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:20,266 so why don't we, you know, go off of that. 420 00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:21,500 What do you think? 421 00:14:21,566 --> 00:14:22,666 Jonathan: That sounds like a great idea. 422 00:14:22,733 --> 00:14:23,766 Lee: And they look good. 423 00:14:23,833 --> 00:14:24,833 Nathan: Get started with the layout? 424 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:26,033 Lee: Yeah. Let's do layout. 425 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,300 Do some measurements and go from there. 426 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:28,833 All right? All right, let's go. 427 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:30,333 Jonathan: Sounds great. 428 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,466 Nathan: All right, I think a classic post-and-rail fence 429 00:14:32,533 --> 00:14:33,466 would look really sharp. 430 00:14:33,533 --> 00:14:35,366 Lee: That'll look really nice. 431 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:37,100 Nathan: So let's say maybe about 2 feet off the backside 432 00:14:37,166 --> 00:14:38,500 of that cobblestone. 433 00:14:38,566 --> 00:14:40,366 Jonathan: All right. 434 00:14:40,433 --> 00:14:41,900 Nathan: This mailbox, I feel like it's seen better days. 435 00:14:41,966 --> 00:14:43,600 Jonathan: It absolutely has. 436 00:14:43,666 --> 00:14:44,966 Nathan: Let's take it out and put a new one in. 437 00:14:45,033 --> 00:14:47,000 So we'll put the mailbox down there. 438 00:14:47,066 --> 00:14:48,766 New one. And then we'll do that. 439 00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:50,033 Lee: Start right about here? 440 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:51,900 Nathan: Post right there, yeah. Lee: Okay. 441 00:14:51,966 --> 00:14:53,866 Nathan: And we're going to work in about 8-foot lengths. 442 00:14:53,933 --> 00:14:55,600 All right? 443 00:14:55,666 --> 00:14:57,333 So we'll drop a post at 8 feet there. 444 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,466 Lee: Another one here. Nathan: Yeah. 445 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:03,233 Come down to 16 feet. We'll drop a post there. 446 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,666 Lee: Okay. Another one here. Nathan: Yep. Nice. 447 00:15:06,733 --> 00:15:11,900 And then we'll cap the ends at 24' right there. 448 00:15:11,966 --> 00:15:14,433 Lee: Okay. Perfect. Good? 449 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:17,200 Nathan: So four posts, some rails. 450 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,800 But when I'm done, it'll just be a fence. 451 00:15:18,866 --> 00:15:19,866 Lee: Okay. 452 00:15:19,933 --> 00:15:21,633 And then let me come in, all right? 453 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:23,500 And I think we should bump it out a little bit, 454 00:15:23,566 --> 00:15:27,800 the bed itself, like 36", 3 feet off the cobblestone 455 00:15:27,866 --> 00:15:30,966 will look really nice, nice straight line about here. 456 00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:32,866 And that will give me room to put some plants in here 457 00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:34,666 because a plain fence, Jon, I don't think 458 00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:36,366 it's going to look too good. Jonathan: Yeah. 459 00:15:36,433 --> 00:15:37,933 Lee: You know, I'm thinking, like some climbing roses, 460 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,800 maybe some spirea, you know? 461 00:15:39,866 --> 00:15:41,366 Jonathan: Sounds like you have a lot more style than I do. 462 00:15:41,433 --> 00:15:43,366 Lee: Okay. [ Laughter ] 463 00:15:43,433 --> 00:15:45,033 But first, let's get this grass out of here. 464 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:46,800 Jonathan: Yeah. Sounds great. Lee: Ready to go? 465 00:15:46,866 --> 00:15:48,166 All right, let's do some work. 466 00:15:48,233 --> 00:15:51,233 Nathan: Less talky, more worky. Lee: Yeah. 467 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:52,633 Nathan: I'm gonna get started with this mailbox. 468 00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:54,366 Jonathan: Okay. Nathan: Lee, help me. 469 00:15:54,433 --> 00:15:55,566 Lee: You need some help over here? 470 00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:56,766 Hold on one second. Nathan: You ready? 471 00:15:56,833 --> 00:15:57,900 Lee: Yep. Which way do you want to go? 472 00:15:57,966 --> 00:16:00,066 Nathan: Go straight up. One, two, three. 473 00:16:00,133 --> 00:16:04,500 There we go. Thank you. Lee: Okay. 474 00:16:04,566 --> 00:16:06,733 All you want to do is just want to get underneath the grass. 475 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,500 You want to -- I don't want to go too deep, 476 00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:10,033 and I don't want to go too shallow. 477 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,100 Nice job. Jonathan: All right. 478 00:16:12,166 --> 00:16:17,833 ♪♪ 479 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:20,633 Lee: Thanks, Nathan. Nathan: Yep. 480 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:22,400 So, I think our first post is going to be 481 00:16:22,466 --> 00:16:23,466 around here somewhere. 482 00:16:23,533 --> 00:16:25,600 Lee: Yeah. 483 00:16:25,666 --> 00:16:27,266 So the reason why we're doing this, 484 00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:28,666 so the fence will be straight, right? 485 00:16:28,733 --> 00:16:30,500 Nathan: Nice and straight. Lee: Okay. 486 00:16:30,566 --> 00:16:32,066 Nathan: All right, so there's 2 feet there. 487 00:16:32,133 --> 00:16:33,966 We'll go down this end. All right. 488 00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:37,000 We'll go down here a little bit past our 24-foot mark. 489 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,533 Lee: That looks pretty good. 490 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,366 Nathan: Like it? Lee: Yeah. 491 00:16:52,433 --> 00:16:53,833 Nathan: All right, John, here are the parts 492 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:56,300 that we need to put together your post-and-rail fence. 493 00:16:56,366 --> 00:16:58,333 I have here in my hands the end post. 494 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,333 You can see it's mortised on this side, 495 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,733 but it doesn't come all the way through for a nice, clean look. 496 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,466 Jonathan: Gotcha. Nathan: In your hand, 497 00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:06,366 the through post is mortised all the way through. 498 00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:08,033 Jonathan: All right. Nathan: And then Lee has 499 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:09,833 the rails with the doweled ends 500 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:10,966 that are going to tuck right inside. 501 00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,166 Jonathan: Looks good. 502 00:17:12,233 --> 00:17:13,233 Nathan: So we have our string line set up. 503 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:14,666 We'll have a nice straight fence. 504 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:16,333 We need to do a little bit more layout, 505 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,666 give ourselves some rough locations 506 00:17:17,733 --> 00:17:19,533 that we're going to start digging some holes. 507 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,933 Then we'll move the string line so we can dig them. 508 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,700 And when we start putting things together, 509 00:17:23,766 --> 00:17:24,966 I like to start on this end 510 00:17:25,033 --> 00:17:26,333 because this is a little bit more important. 511 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,366 The waste can go that way. 512 00:17:28,433 --> 00:17:31,800 So 2 feet down, that'll put us about to the top of the grade. 513 00:17:31,866 --> 00:17:33,966 So about 10 inches from the bottom rail. 514 00:17:34,033 --> 00:17:36,333 We'll run it out level. Look pretty sharp. 515 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,533 Jonathan: What's the typical life on these? 516 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,700 Nathan: Cedar, 30 years. Lee: Yeah. 517 00:17:39,766 --> 00:17:40,966 Nathan: We can start doing our layout. 518 00:17:41,033 --> 00:17:42,600 Lee: Okay. Nathan: One of the ways -- 519 00:17:42,666 --> 00:17:44,900 Lee: Put this down? Nathan: Yeah, drop that rail. 520 00:17:44,966 --> 00:17:46,100 Lee: Okay. 521 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:47,833 Nathan: Right on the ground like that. 522 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,100 We know our first post is going to be right here. 523 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:52,700 Dowel is going to tuck inside of our post. 524 00:17:52,766 --> 00:17:54,166 Lee: About 2 inches inside, correct? 525 00:17:54,233 --> 00:17:55,533 Nathan: 2 inches inside. Lee: Yeah. 526 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Nathan: So we'll dig a 2-foot hole there. 527 00:17:57,066 --> 00:17:58,200 Jonathan: Okay. Nathan: And we'll come down. 528 00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:59,900 We know that's going to be inside the post. 529 00:17:59,966 --> 00:18:01,200 So that's the center. 530 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:04,366 We can dig a hole there. 531 00:18:04,433 --> 00:18:06,366 Jonathan: Why 2 feet? 532 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:07,533 Nathan: 2 feet down -- 533 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,966 low enough that it's nice and stable, 534 00:18:09,033 --> 00:18:10,733 not too deep, you're not going to hit any utilities. 535 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,833 It's not really a high fence. 536 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:13,366 Will be about 3 feet above grade. 537 00:18:13,433 --> 00:18:15,800 Lee: There's no weight on this fence. 538 00:18:15,866 --> 00:18:17,000 It's not like a fence panel 539 00:18:17,066 --> 00:18:18,800 where you might want to go down 4 feet. 540 00:18:18,866 --> 00:18:20,700 Nathan: It's not like a big sail or anything like that. 541 00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:22,500 So I can move this down. 542 00:18:22,566 --> 00:18:24,533 Lee: Okay. 543 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,133 Slide it down. 544 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,366 Nathan: All right. Right about there. 545 00:18:35,033 --> 00:18:36,533 All right. 546 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,933 Lee: One more, and then that's where 547 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,800 it's going to end up down there, Jonathan, right there. 548 00:18:39,866 --> 00:18:41,833 What do you think? Jonathan: Yeah. That looks good. 549 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:43,333 Lee: Okay. Nathan: Good. 550 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,066 All right, let's start digging. 551 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:52,733 Lee: Okay. 552 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,933 Just hitting the ground. 553 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:57,533 Spread your arms and bring out material. 554 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,766 Jonathan: Okay. 555 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:03,633 ♪♪ 556 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:04,766 That's good arms day, you know? 557 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:10,100 ♪♪ 558 00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:12,966 Lee: Pretty good. Jonathan: Nice. 559 00:19:13,033 --> 00:19:17,166 ♪♪ 560 00:19:17,233 --> 00:19:19,066 Nathan: We want it to be plumb, 561 00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:20,900 and we're going to backfill with some stone dust. 562 00:19:20,966 --> 00:19:23,600 This will compact nice. It'll drain. 563 00:19:23,666 --> 00:19:25,866 It's going to be a lot better than cement. 564 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:27,766 Lee: Cement has an issue 565 00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:29,133 it might rot the post, so we don't want to do that. 566 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,866 Nathan: Perfect. 567 00:19:30,933 --> 00:19:32,466 Now we can start digging our second hole. 568 00:19:32,533 --> 00:19:34,966 Lee: Okay, good. Nathan: Yep. 569 00:19:35,033 --> 00:19:36,900 Lee: Sneak in there. 570 00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:38,133 Yep, I got you. 571 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:46,433 ♪♪ 572 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,766 Nathan: All right, so we get our post in there. 573 00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:53,233 And one thing I want to do is we're going to slide a rail in 574 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:55,700 is I want to I want to run this out level. 575 00:19:55,766 --> 00:19:58,866 Because the grade kind of goes up and down a little bit. 576 00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,933 All right, so we want to backfill that hole 577 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,433 just a little bit to run out level. 578 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:05,400 Jonathan: Okay. 579 00:20:05,466 --> 00:20:08,233 Nathan: Put our top rail in. 580 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:09,800 Lee: Jon, can you do me a favor? 581 00:20:09,866 --> 00:20:11,933 Can you grab me that piece of scrap? 582 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,133 Jonathan: Sure. 583 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:20,866 ♪♪ 584 00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:22,166 Nathan: That's good right there. 585 00:20:22,233 --> 00:20:23,666 Jonathan: Good? Nathan: Yeah. 586 00:20:23,733 --> 00:20:25,866 Lee: Good. 587 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:28,800 Nice. 588 00:20:28,866 --> 00:20:30,100 Nathan: All right, lean it just a -- 589 00:20:30,166 --> 00:20:31,933 Give it just a touch back towards the house. 590 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,533 Yeah, that's perfect right there. 591 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,866 Lee: Okay. Go ahead. Nathan: Very nice. 592 00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:36,100 Lee: Tap that. 593 00:20:36,166 --> 00:20:39,433 ♪♪ 594 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,233 Nathan: All right, so we have these posts tamped down. 595 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:43,500 And then we backfilled around 596 00:20:43,566 --> 00:20:44,900 and we push it down with our foot. 597 00:20:44,966 --> 00:20:46,766 But one of the best ways to compact the material 598 00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:49,500 is actually just to run a hose at the base of each post, 599 00:20:49,566 --> 00:20:52,000 let it pool up, then filter down, pool up, 600 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:53,766 and then I'm going to drive these nails in. 601 00:20:53,833 --> 00:20:55,800 Lee: I'm going to rototill the beds 602 00:20:55,866 --> 00:20:57,666 so we can get ready for some planting. 603 00:20:57,733 --> 00:21:00,366 Nathan: All right. Sounds good. 604 00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:02,600 Lee: Jonathan, we have the spirea here. 605 00:21:02,666 --> 00:21:06,000 Golden leaf one on it. It's really nice. Really pretty. 606 00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:08,700 Jonathan: What's the expected coloring for the flower? 607 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:10,933 Lee: This one here should be a nice soft pink, you know? 608 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,500 And then I offset it with this. 609 00:21:12,566 --> 00:21:14,333 This is black-eyed Susans. 610 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,400 It's got the seed pod right here. 611 00:21:16,466 --> 00:21:18,266 Jonathan: Okay. 612 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,100 Lee: And that's what the birds like later in the fall. 613 00:21:20,166 --> 00:21:23,100 So this catmint, this is going to cascade over, 614 00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:24,833 over the cobblestones that we have. 615 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:26,433 And look at that. That's really pretty. 616 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,233 And this will get good size. Okay? 617 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:31,066 And then on the back side, I got a rose bush. 618 00:21:31,133 --> 00:21:32,833 So when they start growing up, 619 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:35,633 just maybe help it train along the rails, okay? 620 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:41,600 ♪♪ 621 00:21:41,666 --> 00:21:44,633 Spread that around nice. 622 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,900 Keep it fluffy. Keep it natural. Perfect. 623 00:21:47,966 --> 00:21:54,933 ♪♪ 624 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,966 Nathan: All right, Jon, what do you think? 625 00:21:57,033 --> 00:21:59,266 Jonathan: I was just expecting a fence, 626 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:02,466 and you guys delivered a heck of a lot more. 627 00:22:02,533 --> 00:22:04,966 You know, the plants, everything. 628 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:06,066 It just looks amazing. 629 00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:07,200 Lee: Came out good. 630 00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:08,166 Nathan, you knocked it out of the park 631 00:22:08,233 --> 00:22:09,500 by putting the fence in. 632 00:22:09,566 --> 00:22:10,633 It looks good. Nice and level, straight. 633 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:12,133 You can't ask any better. 634 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,966 Nathan: You got Lee's personal touch on these plantings. 635 00:22:14,033 --> 00:22:15,866 I think this will really keep people off your lawn for sure. 636 00:22:15,933 --> 00:22:17,333 Jonathan: I hope so. Nathan: You're in good shape. 637 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,800 Lee: Let's make sure. Nathan: Any homework, Lee? 638 00:22:18,866 --> 00:22:20,466 Lee: Yes. Ready? Jonathan: Yes. 639 00:22:20,533 --> 00:22:22,100 Lee: Water, water, water. 640 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:24,500 Give me at least 15 to 20 minutes of watering twice a day. 641 00:22:24,566 --> 00:22:26,066 Jonathan: Twice a day. All right. 642 00:22:26,133 --> 00:22:27,633 Lee: Keep everything hydrated. That'll work out really well. 643 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:29,366 Jonathan: Gotcha. That sounds good. 644 00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:30,766 Nathan: Enjoy it. Jonathan: All right. 645 00:22:30,833 --> 00:22:32,466 Thanks for your help, guys. Lee: Talk to you soon. 646 00:22:32,533 --> 00:22:34,666 Good job, Nathan. Nathan: Good job, Lee. 647 00:22:34,733 --> 00:22:35,833 Go get a beer. Lee: Yeah. Two. 648 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:39,800 ♪♪ 649 00:22:41,766 --> 00:22:44,733 Kevin: Next time on "Ask This Old House," 650 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,666 do you have questions about the various types 651 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:49,733 of caulking materials and when to use them? 652 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Tommy has all the answers for you. 653 00:22:52,066 --> 00:22:55,966 Then Richard helps a homeowner install a garbage disposal 654 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:58,933 that uses an air switch. 655 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,966 And I host some special guests from the popular online channel 656 00:23:03,033 --> 00:23:08,100 Toys and Colors in the workshop to build a dress-up closet. 657 00:23:08,166 --> 00:23:10,600 All that on "Ask This Old House."