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Kevin: On "Ask This Old House,"

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our experts travel
across the country

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to answer questions
about your house.

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Today, Nathan heads to Portland
to help a daycare provider

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build a mud kitchen
for her students.

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Carley: I can't wait for them
to see it on Monday.

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They're going to have
so much fun.

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Kevin: Then Mauro
helps a homeowner

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update a wood-paneled room.

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And are you perplexed
when it comes to pruning?

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Lee gives a tutorial
on the tools and techniques

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that will have you
shearing like a pro.

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That's all coming up next
on "Ask This Old House."

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Mauro: A lot of people ask me
for, you know,

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"What color do you think
will look good in this room?"

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Man: What color
would you recommend?

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Kevin: "What color should
I paint my room?"

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You must get that all the time.

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Mauro: But it all depends
on how you see

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and how you feel about colors.

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There's tons of them, millions
of different colors out there.

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Kevin: I mean, this is insane.
Look at all these choices.

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Mauro: This is crazy.

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Kevin: This is so many.
Mauro: Pick a color there.

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It's not easy to pick colors
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but, I mean, colors play very
strange sometimes, you know?

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Okay, let's say we look
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A green has so much
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but that color, specific color,
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I can see what undertones
are in that color.

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Sometimes you can see, like,
a little flash of red in there,

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a little flash of blue in there,
or a little flash of yellow.

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It's a little complicated
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the more your eyes look at it,
the more you read colors,

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the more you understand,
the more you're going to like it

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or you don't going to like it.

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And the most important
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the first question
I ask them is,

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"So, how do you feel
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Woman: I think it looks amazing.

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It's exactly
what I was looking for.

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Mauro: That's a good sign.

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We have to do a lot of repaint.

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[ Chuckling ]
Many times, many times.

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I could count the projects
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that we didn't have to repaint
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You got to feel good about it.
If you don't feel good about it,

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it's going to be
a waste of time and money.

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But it's about preference.

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Different people likes
different colors.

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What do you think?
Woman: I love it.

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Mauro: It's amazing what
a little paint can do, huh?

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Woman: Yeah.
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looked like this morning,
it really looks incredible.

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Mauro: I like the reds for
doors, I like greens for doors,

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and I like black with
a little bit of glossy on it.

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Kevin: [ Laughs ]
Check that out.

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Mauro: Unbelievable.
Kevin: It looks awesome.

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Mauro: But my number one
is the navy blue.

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To me, it fits everywhere.

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By the way, I like the blue.

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Really nice color
for a bathroom.

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It goes to my truck.
It goes to my living room.

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It goes to my TV room.
It goes on my clothing.

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And I just love it.

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It's a color that --
it makes me feel good.

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Your preference is like
the one that counts the most.

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It's what makes you feel
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I like this color
anywhere in the house.

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And you come in.
You see those nice colors.

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"Oh, I'm fine."

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What do you think?

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Woman:
It looks fantastic in here.

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It's so much brighter.

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Mauro: Makes you feel good?
That's your color.

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Hi, Courtney.
Courtney: Hi, Mauro.

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Mauro: Nice to meet you.
Courtney: Welcome.

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Mauro: All right,

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so I think you wrote in
about painting your office?

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Courtney: Yes.
Mauro: All right.

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Courtney: Let me show you.
Mauro: Let's do.

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All right. Lots of wood paneling
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Courtney: [ Laughing ] Yes.

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This is our home office,
and we have done a little work.

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Mauro: I can see.

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You have the ceiling
nice and clean, the walls.

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Courtney: But we'd love your
help with painting the paneling.

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Mauro: The panelings?
All right.

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But you want to do everything?

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Courtney: No, I would like
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and the cabinets.

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Mauro: The cabinets.

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Courtney: And also the sash.
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All right. Sounds good to me.

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We can help with that,
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most important one.

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Do you have any color in mind
for this woodwork?

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Courtney: We were thinking
about a blue.

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Mauro: A blue.

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Courtney:
And we do have some samples.

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May I show you?
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Blue is my favorite color.

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Aha! Here we go.

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Courtney: Mauro,
these are the four samples

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that I am considering.
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Courtney: And it's important to
me that we complement the paint

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on the walls and the ceiling
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Mauro: Okay, one thing
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when the sun hits the window,
there's a lot of light

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breaking in, in the morning,
okay?

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So, we're going to make sure
that we choose a color

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that won't change so much
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Courtney: Okay.
Mauro: All right?

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So, we have four
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Courtney: Mm-hmm.

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Mauro: When you look at it,

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is there any color
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"Mauro, I don't think this will
work for me there?"

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Courtney: I'm not a fan
of this one.

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Mauro: Not crazy about that one?
Courtney: Mnh-mnh.

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Mauro: All right,
let's put it that way.

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Now we came down
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A lot of gray in this one,
dark gray and blue,

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and this lighter gray
from the other two, right?

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Now we have to take
another one out.

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Which one you don't consider
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Courtney: This one seems
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given the size of the room.

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Mauro: If you don't like that,

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we're going to take this one
out, right?

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Courtney: Take it out.
Mauro: Take it out.

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Now we came down to two
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Courtney,
always go with your gut.

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Courtney: Okay.
My gut says this is the one.

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Mauro: If your gut said that,
that's the one. We go for it.

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Let's take this one out.
Now that we know the color,

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I'm going to step out,
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and you and I will go to work.

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Courtney: Sounds good.

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Mauro: We'll see you soon.
Courtney: Okay.

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Mauro: First thing what we're
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we're going to roll up the paper
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Make sure you press down
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I want to cut this right here.

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Last, protect the edges
of the window casing, okay?

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Press it down.

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Just make sure
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All right?

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Okay. Ready to prime?
Courtney: Yes.

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Mauro: All right.
Here's what we're going to use.

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We're going to do
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excellent for the surface
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which has this little gloss
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And this will be perfect
for us, okay?

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Courtney: Okay.
Mauro: All right.

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Let's open this can.

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A little here, you're there.

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Courtney: It's gray.
It's not -- why isn't it white?

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Mauro: Gray primer will give us
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that we're going to use
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It comes tinted
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Courtney: Okay.
Mauro: Okay? Ready to go?

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Courtney: Ready.
Mauro: Okay.

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I'll hit the grooves
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while you paint the panelings
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This will ensure we don't end up
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in between the panels.

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Well, it's been an hour.
Our primer is dry.

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It's time to paint.
Are you ready for that?

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Courtney: I'm ready.
Mauro: Okay.

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Courtney: On the ceiling,
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Mauro: Got it. Yes.

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Courtney:
What finish are we using here?

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Mauro: For the wooden paneling,
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a matte finish.
Courtney: Why matte?

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Mauro: Matte finish reflects
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Courtney:
I already like that color.

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Mauro: Wait until you see up
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It's going to be even better.

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Man, I love this blue.

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Wow, Courtney.
What about this room?

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Courtney: It's incredible.

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Mauro: Amazing.
I love your color selection.

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And we went with the matte
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Perfect.
The room is, like, beautiful.

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Courtney: Is there anything
we need to know?

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Mauro: Yes. What I would
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don't bring anything
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or hang anything into the walls.

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but it's not completely cured.

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So, tomorrow on, it's all yours,
all right?

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If you have any more projects,
painting projects, let me know.

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We'll come by.
We'll help you out, okay?

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Courtney: Thank you so much.
Mauro: Thank you.

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Kevin: Hey, Lee.
Lee: Hi, Kevin.

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How are you doing?
Kevin: I'm doing all right.

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So, pruning, or I guess
maybe shearing or both?

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That's what we're talking about?

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Lee: That's what we're talking
about today.

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Kevin: Ooh, I am jealous.

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I do not have any
of the gas-powered shears.

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Lee: Gas-powered ones work
really good, fast, you know,

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get the job done real quick.

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Kevin: Works a lot in
your world, I would imagine.

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Lee: Yes, they do.
Yes, they do.

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Kevin: This guy happens
to be gas-powered.

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Lee: Yes.
Kevin: And articulating blades.

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So, these guys go
just back and forth.

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Lee: Correct.
Kevin: Short work at it.

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Lee: Yes. And then we also have
a battery one, also.

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Kevin: Everything's going
battery these days.

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Lee: Yes. Everything's
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So, fast. You know?

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Kevin: That does
some serious work.

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Lee: Do a nice job.
Kevin: Up for heights

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and, also,
does this guy move around?

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Lee: Yes.
Yes, it does.

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Kevin: So, you can sweep
at different angles?

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Lee: Pull it down.
It articulates a little bit.

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Kevin: Oh, yeah. Beautiful.
Okay.

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But more aggressive than I think
we're going to be

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working with
on the small guys behind us.

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So, let's get them out of here.
What is your approach?

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Which tool for which task?

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Lee: This is a boxwood.
Kevin: Love them.

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They can be ornamental.
You can shape them.

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Lee: Yes. Really nice plant.

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I like the long shears on these.
Kevin: You do? All right.

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Lee: They work really well.

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You can shape it
the way you want.

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See?
Takes a lot of material off.

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They work really well.

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Kevin: And so, I guess the
customer is going to tell you

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whether they want
the natural look,

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or, if I could,

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a little bit more groomed...
Lee: Yes.

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Kevin: ...and geometric.

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Lee: Definitely, definitely.

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Kevin: They do
a quick job of it.

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Lee: Okay.
These work really well.

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Kevin: I'll get that out
of there.

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Lee: Okay.

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Kevin: So, that's how we would
attack a boxwood.

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Lee: Yep.

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Then, also, a yew. Okay.
Kevin: Yep.

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Lee: These ones here,
you can also get in there

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with small hand pruners, okay?
Those ones there fit the hand.

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But if you wanted to get in
and do some, you know,

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single cutting like that.
Correct.

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Kevin: Right.

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Lee: And then if you want
to do multiple cuttings,

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go back to the long shear ones.

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Kevin: Do you enjoy shaping them
nice and groomed and straight?

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Lee: All depends
on the customer.

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Kevin: It does?
Lee: Yes.

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Kevin: Obviously
with the hand pruners,

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one at a time,
a little bit more laborious.

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But you guys can go in
and thin it out.

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Lee: Correct.

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With that good airflow
in there and stuff like that.

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Kevin: What do you like for
a cut when you're using those?

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Lee: When you say a cut,
I like to get down inside

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and cut just before maybe
a branch or a foliage

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or something like that.

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Kevin: Gotcha.
Lee: And that's it.

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Kevin: Right. Okay.
So, that would be the yew.

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Lee: Yes.

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Kevin: I think of the yew
and the boxwoods

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as sort of similar in a sense
that shape them, a hedge.

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Lee: Correct. Yes.
Kevin: Kind of monolithic.

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Lee: Then we have a holly.

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Kevin: I was going to guess
holly.

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I was. I really was.

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Lee: I beat you to it.
Kevin: I recognized.

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What are you going
after this one with?

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Lee: This one here,
I would just do

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a little bit of hand-pruning
on it,

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clean it out a little bit
in the middle,

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any dead stuff on it,
things like that.

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I'd like to do maybe, like,
a 45 above some foliage.

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Kevin: Yep.
Lee: Something like that.

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Kevin: Right.
Lee: Okay?

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Then maybe get inside
and do some hand-pruning.

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Kevin: Got a little couple dead
ones there you go after.

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Lee: Exactly, exactly.

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Kevin: Would you go
with the bigger trimmers?

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Lee: I wouldn't. I don't think
I would use those.

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I'd more shape it by hand...
Kevin: Yeah.

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Lee: ...with small hand pruners.

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Kevin: Okay, okay.
Get this one out.

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And we bring you
the last one here, which is...

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I'll admit I do not know
which this one is. What is that?

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Lee: This one's
a rose of Sharon.

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Kevin: Ah, okay.

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Lee: Real pretty flower late
in the summer.

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Kevin: Yeah.

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Lee: So, like,
in the springtime,

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it might not leaf out.

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Some people think
it might be dead.

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But hold off on this and have
some patience and it comes out.

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Kevin: How are you
going to attack that?

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Lee: Okay.
This one here, again,

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maybe do some air flowing,
you know, some pruning inside.

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Kevin: Mm-hmm.

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Lee: And then also like
a lot of these get really big.

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So, maybe the loppers
might work really well.

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Kevin: So, these, I mean,
much more aggressive.

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Lee: Correct.
Kevin: Because you...

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Lee: Much more torque on it.
Kevin: Yep.

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Lee: You know,
get a good cut on it.

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But I would come in
on the small side,

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on the small side of the cutter.

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Kevin: This guy in here.
Lee: Correct. Exactly.

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Kevin: So, get behind...
Lee: Exactly.

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Kevin:
And then I'm so tempted, Lee.

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Lee: Easy. Easy.

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Kevin: I just want to
because that would

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make nothing of that, right?

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Lee: Exactly.
It'd go right through it.

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Kevin: Okay.
So, not in that case.

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Lee: Okay.

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Kevin:
But if you had the small guys...

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Lee: Yes.

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Kevin: ...and you were trying
to come in,

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and you had something, you know,
half an inch or bigger,

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you might struggle
to get that.

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Lee: Correct, correct.

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Kevin: So, loppers is the tool
of choice for that one.

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Lee: Loppers is the way to go.

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Kevin: Beautiful.
All right, I love it.

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So, right tool
for the right shrub.

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Lee: Correct.
Kevin: Looks good.

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Lee: Okay.
Kevin: Thank you, man.

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Nathan: Today I'm heading
to Portland, Oregon,

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to help a homeowner
with an outdoor project.

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For a city, Portland is pretty
lush and green,

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so I'm looking forward
to spending some time outside.

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Hi, Carley.
Carley: Hi, Nathan.

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Welcome to Portland.
Nathan: Thanks for having me.

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Carley: Yeah.

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Nathan: This is
an incredible spot.

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You would never know
that you were in the city.

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It's like you guys have
your own secret garden here.

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Carley: Thank you. That's
exactly how we planned it.

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Nathan: So, you wrote me
about improving a space?

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Carley: Yeah. So we bought
our house a few years ago,

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and I started in-home daycare.
Nathan: Oh, cool.

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Carley: So, we spend a ton of
time outside. The kids love it.

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But there's one area that
I think we could fix up a bit.

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Nathan:
All right, let's take a look.

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Carley: So, over here we have
kind of our adult hangout area.

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Nathan: Nice.

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Carley: But back here is where
the kids play.

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Nathan: Oh, I bet they
run around like crazy out here.

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Carley: They love it.
Nathan: Awesome.

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Carley: So, this area
is their little kitchen.

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But I'd love to build
a big mud kitchen

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so they'd have tons
of room to play.

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Nathan: Well, you wrote just
the right person

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because I literally just built
one for my daughter's daycare,

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and they love it.
They're using it all the time.

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I like how customizable
they are.

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What kind of features
do you want to see?

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Carley:
They love to play with water,

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so maybe like a sink?
Nathan: Perfect.

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Carley: Lots of counter space
with, like, a pretend stove,

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some hooks to hang up
all their pots and pans,

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and just a lot of room for them
to all spread out.

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Nathan: All right.
Perfect.

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I brought a ton of material
with me. Let's go get started.

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Carley: Okay. Awesome.

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♪♪

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Nathan:
All right, here's the parts

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that I picked up
for your mud kitchen.

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I got some pressure-treated
2x4 stock for the frame,

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some nice cedar
tongue-and-groove

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that we can use for the back,
or if we add a shelf,

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I have some composite decking
that we can use for the top.

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And the bottom shelf, that is
going to age really well.

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It's going to be splinter-free,
really good for the kids.

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We have screws to assemble
our frame.

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For securing down
the composite decking,

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I picked up these special screws
that will lock it down.

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These have color-match plugs
that'll fit right into the hole

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and hide these fasteners
and blend right in.

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I have some hooks
that I picked up for pots,

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pans, measuring cups,

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and what's cool
is we'll do a solid back

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so you can move these over time

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if you get new toys
to incorporate.

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Carley: That's great.

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Nathan: I'm going to use
some black spray paint.

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Maybe we can make some knobs
or some stovetop burners.

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We'll paint those black.

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And then the last thing I picked
up was this little, tiny sink.

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Carley: It's so cute.
Nathan: It really is cute.

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So, when I built
my daughter's mud kitchen,

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I actually incorporated
some water into it.

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I added a fitting here,
added water to the cold side,

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and I put a "P" trap
on the bottom

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to get the water away
from the play area.

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Do you guys have a water source
out there?

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Carley: We don't actually
have a hose over there,

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but maybe we can do
some kind of container system

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that they could
pour water out of.

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Nathan: Yeah, we can put
a 5-gallon bucket below it,

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and then we can introduce
another water source.

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It'll be fun.
It's just a play kitchen.

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So, they don't have to clean
the dishes,

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but they can make pretend.

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All right. What do you think?

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You want to get started?
Carley: Yeah. Let's go.

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Nathan: All right.

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So, I thought we'd get started
by assembling the frame.

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And we're making it
for little kids,

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so we want to keep that in mind.

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Maybe about two feet high
off the ground

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so they can reach it
and play with anything on top.

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About six feet long,

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and we don't want to
make it too deep,

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maybe about 20 inches deep
so they can still reach

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and play
with all the toys on top.

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Carley: Okay. Sounds good.
Nathan: All right.

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Now we're going
to do a simple layout.

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I'm going to add one of these
16-inch pieces on either end.

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And then I'm going
to find the center.

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I'm gonna put one in the middle.
So, we'll do the layout on both.

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We'll spread it out,
screw everything together,

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check for square,
and then we can add the legs.

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Carley: Okay.

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Nathan: What's half of 67?
Carley: 33.5.

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Nathan: Yes!
Carley: [ Laughs ]

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Nathan: So, we have
our countersink set up.

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We're going to do two holes
on each end.

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Then we'll find that center.

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[ Drill whirring ]

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So, now they're pre-drilled
and they're countersunk,

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so the heads will sit nice
and flush with the wood.

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So, that's our first one.
Let's do our second one.

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[ Drill whirring ]

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Okay. It's one.

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00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:29,900
[ Drill whirring ]

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Okay. Work our way down.

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All right. Like it?

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Carley: Looks good.
Nathan: All right.

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So, the next step is we need
to add our legs.

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Now, this is our top.

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And we want to add
a second shelf in this.

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We need to find out
where that's going to be.

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So, we know the first line
is a given, 3 1/2 inches down.

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And we want to put this
second shelf at a decent height

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that we can still use
the space between.

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We know that second shelf
is going to be kind of thick

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at just over four inches
with the decking on it.

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So, maybe about a foot of space
would be nice.

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So, if I come down to that
3 1/2, come down 12,

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you know, you have
about 4 1/4, 4 inches below,

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and you'll still have
a little bit on the bottom.

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Perfect. Right there.
Carley: There we go.

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[ Drill whirring ]

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Nathan: All right.
This one.

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[ Drill whirring ]

477
00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:43,200
Nice and square?
Carley: Mm-hmm.

478
00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:44,866
Nathan: All right.

479
00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,133
So, now we got to put
that second shelf in.

480
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,533
This is a little trickier.

481
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,133
So, maybe if we take this,
and we roll this on its side.

482
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,933
Like, roll towards you.
Yeah.

483
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,166
That's gonna work.

484
00:19:01,233 --> 00:19:02,233
All right.

485
00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:05,433
[ Drill whirring ]

486
00:19:11,533 --> 00:19:13,300
Carley: Okay.

487
00:19:13,366 --> 00:19:15,100
[ Drill whirring ]

488
00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:22,033
Nathan: Now we're ready to cut
our decking

489
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,833
for our top
and our middle shelf.

490
00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:26,900
We'll cut some
six-footers first.

491
00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:29,766
[ Drill whirring ]

492
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,966
All right.
We got our four pieces.

493
00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:36,100
Three of them are full width.

494
00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:38,200
And what I did is I ripped
the last one to 3 inches.

495
00:19:38,266 --> 00:19:39,500
Carley: Mm-hmm.

496
00:19:39,566 --> 00:19:41,166
Nathan: That way it gives us
a nice reveal.

497
00:19:41,233 --> 00:19:42,500
So, I have an inch on the ends.

498
00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:44,266
And I have an inch
overhang on the front.

499
00:19:44,333 --> 00:19:45,866
And these are essentially
like plastic.

500
00:19:45,933 --> 00:19:47,066
So, they like to move
around a lot.

501
00:19:47,133 --> 00:19:50,133
So, we'll want to measure
quite a few times,

502
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,266
double-check ourselves.

503
00:19:52,333 --> 00:19:54,500
But we're looking for that
one inch on the ends,

504
00:19:54,566 --> 00:19:58,066
one inch on the front, and then
down below our 3-footers.

505
00:19:58,133 --> 00:19:59,666
Perfect.
All right.

506
00:19:59,733 --> 00:20:00,766
So, what we can do,

507
00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:02,900
we can secure the front
and the back one.

508
00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:04,666
And then we'll space the two
in the middle evenly.

509
00:20:04,733 --> 00:20:05,900
And we'll screw everything down.

510
00:20:05,966 --> 00:20:07,700
Carley: That'll look good.

511
00:20:07,766 --> 00:20:10,733
[ Drill whirring ]

512
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,500
[ Drill whirring ]

513
00:20:24,566 --> 00:20:27,933
Nathan: This is that white cedar
board that we have for the back.

514
00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:32,933
[ Drill whirring ]

515
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,400
So, you said that you wanted

516
00:20:37,466 --> 00:20:39,333
to put some water dispensers
on top.

517
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,600
So, I got a couple pieces
of cedar here that I cut,

518
00:20:42,666 --> 00:20:44,033
and then I'm going to throw
a little cleat underneath

519
00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:45,966
for a little bit of support.

520
00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:51,800
All right.
What do you think of that?

521
00:20:51,866 --> 00:20:53,600
Carley: It looks good.
Nathan: All right.

522
00:20:53,666 --> 00:20:57,633
[ Drill whirring ]

523
00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:59,566
All right.

524
00:20:59,633 --> 00:21:01,933
[ Drill whirring ]

525
00:21:03,666 --> 00:21:05,733
All right, here's the tongue
that we ripped off

526
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,900
the front of this board.

527
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,433
We're going to turn it,
put it on top,

528
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:10,400
and create
a little bit of a lip.

529
00:21:10,466 --> 00:21:14,033
♪♪

530
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,700
Next, we're going to cut a hole

531
00:21:15,766 --> 00:21:17,666
through the decking
for the sink.

532
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,833
Once I know
how big the opening is,

533
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:24,733
I can add blocking underneath
to support the decking.

534
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:32,033
♪♪

535
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:35,066
♪♪

536
00:21:35,133 --> 00:21:37,800
Next, we'll cut circles out
of some three-quarter PVC,

537
00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:40,233
painted black
to look like a stovetop.

538
00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:45,300
For our knobs, we'll use
some scrap 2x4 stock.

539
00:21:45,366 --> 00:21:47,733
We'll cut it out with a hole saw
and paint it black.

540
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:57,733
♪♪

541
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:06,366
♪♪

542
00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:08,200
Carley, I love
how you decorated it.

543
00:22:08,266 --> 00:22:09,433
Carley: Thanks for your help.

544
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:10,433
It turned out better
than I could ever imagine.

545
00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:11,700
Nathan: It looks awesome.

546
00:22:11,766 --> 00:22:13,600
Carley: I added some water
and some food coloring

547
00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:14,933
so they could do some mixing.
Nathan: Perfect.

548
00:22:15,033 --> 00:22:16,300
Carley: I can't wait for them
to see it on Monday.

549
00:22:16,366 --> 00:22:17,433
They're going to have
so much fun.

550
00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:18,633
Nathan: They're gonna have
a blast.

551
00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:19,733
Well, thank you
for having me to Portland.

552
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,900
Carley:
Thanks for coming out to help.

553
00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:22,400
Nathan: Anytime.
If you've got questions

554
00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:23,966
about your house,
we'd love to hear from you.

555
00:22:24,033 --> 00:22:25,966
So, keep them coming.
Until next time,

556
00:22:26,033 --> 00:22:30,166
I'm Nathan Gilbert
for "Ask This Old House."

557
00:22:30,233 --> 00:22:32,200
So, the microwave,
is that for snacks?

558
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:33,200
Carley: For mud pies.

559
00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:34,566
Nathan:
Can you guys mail me one?

560
00:22:34,633 --> 00:22:37,566
Carley: I think we can.
Nathan: All right. Thank you.

561
00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,000
Kevin: Next time
on "Ask This Old House,"

562
00:22:44,066 --> 00:22:45,366
Lee helps a homeowner

563
00:22:45,433 --> 00:22:48,233
whose yard is being invaded
with weeds.

564
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:50,266
Lee: Bad thing right here --
bittersweet, not good.

565
00:22:50,333 --> 00:22:53,466
Really invasive --
it'll take over everything.

566
00:22:53,533 --> 00:22:55,433
Kevin: Then Richard visits
a homeowner

567
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:59,033
looking to include a bidet
in their bathroom remodel.

568
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,333
Plus, Mark shares
some information

569
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,500
on the dos and don'ts
of chimney caps.

570
00:23:04,566 --> 00:23:07,800
All that
on "Ask This Old House."