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Kevin:
On "Ask This Old House,"

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our experts travel
across the country

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to answer questions
about your house.

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Today, Richard helps a homeowner
solve the mystery

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of why their water heater
keeps running out of hot water.

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And I take a trip
to visit maker Jimmy DiResta.

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We check out
his new workshop,

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and he teaches me
how to make a leather tote.

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Jimmy:
So it is very simple to do,

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but it takes a lot of patience,
as you see.

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Kevin: Yeah, you kind of got
to get into the zone.

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All that on
"Ask This Old House."

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Richard: We got an e-mail
from this lovely young couple.

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They're quite excited.

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They bought
their very first house,

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a flip in this great
neighborhood here.

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And it was perfect
until it wasn't.

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Hello, our homeowner Rhiannon.
Nice to see you.

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Rhiannon:
Hey, Richard. Good to see you.

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Richard:
What brings me here today?

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Rhiannon: So we're having some
issues with the hot water.

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Richard: Of course.
Rhiannon: So basically if we

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only need
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or we only need to do the dishes

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or run the washing machine,
then it's okay.

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But if we try to back-to-back
shower, we run out of water.

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Richard: And did anything change
from when you moved in?

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Has it been like this --
Rhiannon: No, from day one.

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Richard:
Alright, let's see what you got.

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Rhiannon: I'll lead the way.

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Richard:
So how long does it take
to run out of hot water here?

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Rhiannon:
Usually shower one's okay.

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Shower two is where
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So about 15-ish minutes.
Richard: Okay. 15.

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So this looks like,
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they remodeled the bathroom.

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Nice new shower valve here.
Big shower head here.

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But by code this is supposed
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to 2 1/2 gallons a minute.
Rhiannon: Okay.

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Richard: So what I want to do
is start by doing a little test.

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I'm going to take a bucket

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and measure the gallons
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Rhiannon: Okay.
Richard: At the same time,

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I'm going to have you downstairs

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with a temperature gauge
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and we'll compare how much
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versus how much
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Rhiannon: Alright. Sounds good.

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Richard: Alright, so I used
this bucket to prove

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how much we're getting out of
that shower head upstairs.

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Rhiannon: Okay.
Richard: And this marked

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to one gallon. Did the math.

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That shower head's putting out

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the 2.5 gallons per minute
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Rhiannon: Okay.
Richard: So what did you get

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for the minutes
that were ran out?

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Rhiannon: About 12 minutes.

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Richard:
Okay, so let's start our math.

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So we had 12 minutes times
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is 30 gallons
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Okay? So this water heater
sitting right here,

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it has cold water
coming into the bottom

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right here through a dip tube.

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Two electrical elements
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And here's the hot water
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So 30 gallons
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And this tank is actually
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that's only 40 gallons.

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It's got electric element here
and it stores the 40 gallons.

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And you go, "Well, 40 gallons.
That should be enough, right?"

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Except anytime you have
a tank-type heater of any sort

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and you take
the hot water out, cold water

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has to come in and replace
it down through this dip tube

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right here
that has a little curl on it.

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So what happens is hot water
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cold water
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And it's diluting the tank,
diluting the tank,

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diluting the tank
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So generally most tanks are only
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65% to 70% of the volume.
Rhiannon: Didn't know that.

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Richard: Okay? So this is
a 40-gallon tank.

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So let's do that math.
40 times 0.7.

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40 times 0.7 is 28.

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Oh, look at these numbers.
Rhiannon: Wow.

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Richard: Okay? You have
available to you 28 gallons.

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You're looking for 30.

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And that's exactly
why you went cold at 12.

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Rhiannon: Oh.
Richard: So what does that mean?

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This water heater
is working exactly to spec.

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Rhiannon: Really?
Richard: Maybe that's the bad
news, right?

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So it's just too small.

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Rhiannon: Okay.
Richard: So if you didn't have

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any other choice, you could
maybe just stagger the use.

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But I'm not sure why they didn't
put a 50-gallon water heater.

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But I think
the solution for you,

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with your permission,

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is to put in a new
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The tank I want
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is called a hybrid water heater.

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So the tank itself is bigger.
It's going to be 50 gallons.

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And it still has electrical
elements in it if necessary.

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But what it has built into
the top of it is a heat pump.

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And the heat pump
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So now it can draw air
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So all the heat that comes off
the ductwork in the winter,

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all the heat that would store
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can be pulled in,

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and using the refrigeration
cycle, efficiently

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heat up that water.

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And what it's going to do is be
much more efficient to run.

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But also it's going
to dehumidify down here

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and you won't need
that dehumidifier.

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Rhiannon: That's very cool.
Richard: That sounds good?

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Rhiannon: That sounds great.

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Richard: Well, Christmas
is coming early.

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I'm going to go on a little
shopping trip. I'll be back.

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Alright. New water heater
is here.

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We just got to start by getting
the old water heater out.

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And I'll turn off the cold water
feed and now drain the tank.

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Alright.
I just need to kill the power

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to the existing water heater.
That's it. Breaker 14.

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Now I'll disconnect
the power line

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and cut the water piping
to free the old water heater.

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Okay.

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Okay. The old tank is gone.

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And look, here's your new tank.

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Rhiannon: It's very shiny.
Richard: It's very shiny.

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The tank itself
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And this is 50 gallons, not 40.
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this is the heat pump unit
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Air is drawn in
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And it picks up the heat
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delivers it down
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and discharges it over there.

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So now, because
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the tappings are different.

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Remember the old one's
had hot and cold right here.

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So now here's the hot
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So it's going to require
a little more repiping for me.

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While I do that, see this?

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This has got all kinds
of smarts, you know,

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Wi-Fi, Bluetooth,
all that stuff.

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You're young enough
and smart enough.

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You study up on that. You'll be
in charge when I get done.

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Alright?
Rhiannon: I'll do my best.

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Richard: Alright.

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Alright.
I've been busy down here.

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I've got all of the water
piping done.

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We've got a cold water line
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drops down to the bottom,

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a vacuum breaker
right here at the top.

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Heated water comes out
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now comes back to the building.

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We got everything wired.
We got it all connected.

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And now this thing is running
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It's just acting
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And there's a little bit
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and you're in business.

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Rhiannon: It's beautiful.

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And I'm so excited
to have hot showers again.

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Richard: Good.
Rhiannon: How much more

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expensive is this going to be
since it's so much nicer?

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Richard: Well, it's way
less expensive to run,

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first of all. You know,
I want to compare a few things.

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One is, remember the 40-gallon
water heater we took out?

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That thing had an energy rating,
I think, of $555 a year,

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and this is about $117 a year
with plenty of hot water.

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Okay? So there's
an operating cost story.

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There's also, you know,
for every dollar you put in,

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you get about $3
equivalent energy back out,

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which is pretty good versus
a regular resistance heater.

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And then there's all kinds of
people trying to be your friend.

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Most states are giving away
$500 to $1,000

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rebates to invite people
to put these in

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because they really want
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the electrical consumption.
Rhiannon: Yeah.

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Richard: And the federal
government is doing a tax credit

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of up to 30%
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labor and material,
up to about $2,000.

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Rhiannon: That's awesome.
Richard: So that could

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be up to 2,000 bucks.
Rhiannon: Yeah.

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Richard: Alright?
So there's a lot of ways

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that you can get
one of these things affordably.

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So a little bit of homework.

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Did you learn
all your smart stuff?

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Rhiannon: I did. I downloaded
an app and it looks like

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I can control it remotely

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and it'll, like,
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So I've got some learning to do.
Richard: You might have to teach

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me once you learn. Okay?
Rhiannon: I'll do my best.

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Richard: The other thing
I want you to do

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is just insulate
the last of these pipes

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because we're fighting so hard
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go into the water as we can.

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And I've got one thing
left to do for you,

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to find the adapter right here,

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because right here is going
to be all the condensate

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that we're extracting
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and we're going to dump that
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Rhiannon: Gotcha.
Richard: Alright?

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But I want you
to stay in hot water.

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Rhiannon: I appreciate it.
Richard: You were a great help.

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Alright.
Rhiannon: Thank you.

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Kevin: I am headed to upstate
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to go see an old friend,
Jimmy DiResta.

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Jimmy is a maker, which means
he is somebody who can --

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Well, just that. He can
pretty much make anything.

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And he has over the years.

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With us, he's done
a couple projects.

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He did a dining table
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He also worked on
a beautiful epoxy end table

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with some small
round wood cutoffs,

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also some channel letters
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and he worked with Tommy once.

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They welded a coat rack
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But it's been a couple of years
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He's got a brand-new workshop

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and he was kind enough
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He says he's got a new project
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so I'm looking forward
to getting up there

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and see what
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Hey, Jimmy.
Jimmy: How are you, buddy?

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Kevin:
Good. Good to see you again.

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Jimmy: Welcome back.
Kevin: Yeah. Thank you.

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Great to be back.
Jimmy: Thank you.

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Kevin: Been a while.
Jimmy: It's been a minute.

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It's been a minute.
Kevin: Yeah.

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So, what've you been up to?
Jimmy: A lot of changes.

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A lot of good stuff.
You know, I did a Netflix show.

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Kevin: I saw it. "Making Fun."

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Jimmy: "Making Fun."
It was a ridiculous show.

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Kevin: It's a whole
different side of you.

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Jimmy: Yeah, it was fun.
Kevin: Giving the kids

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a little bit of a -- Yeah.
Jimmy: Yeah.

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The best part about that show
was that we used my property.

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We used the shop, which you
haven't had a chance to see yet.

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We did all the crazy stuff
in the backyard,

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and most of those ideas
came directly from the kids.

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Kevin: I remember when
that started going up,

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so I do want to check it out.

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Jimmy:
Yeah, we'll go take a look.

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Kevin: But I see
a couple new ones too.

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A peak of what -- You got
another one down there? A barn?

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Jimmy: Building a horse barn.

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I started that a few years ago.

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It's still in progress.
It's a lot of work.

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Kevin: Everything's in progress.

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The new shop,
I'd love to check that out.

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So maybe a tour from you of...?
Jimmy: Yeah.

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Let's go take a look.
Kevin: Alright.

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Jimmy: I think you'll like it.

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Kevin: Last time I was here, the
siding was going up, I think.

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Jimmy: Oh, yeah, yeah.
You said Dave was doing --

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Kevin: Yeah, David was here and
he was banging it out.

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Jimmy: Yep.

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A lot more has happened
since. A lot more.

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Kevin: Oh, yeah.
This has come a long way.

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Jimmy: It has, hasn't it? Kevin:
Holy mackerel.

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Jimmy: A lot of work.
Kevin: Yeah.

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Jimmy: The stained glass was
a prop for the TV show.

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Kevin: That's a replica
of the little one

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that was hanging over
the old shop.

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Jimmy:
That's right, that's right.

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Kevin: Oh, yeah.
Look what you have done here.

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Holy -- The space.
Jimmy: Isn't it nice?

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Kevin: It is.
Jimmy: I love it.

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Kevin: And the stuff.

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Jimmy: I like having
cool stuff around.

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Kevin:
Did you make or did you find?

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Jimmy: Me and my buddy Wesley
made that

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for a YouTube video
about a year and a half ago.

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Kevin: That's awesome.
Jimmy: Yeah.

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Kevin:
We made some channel letters,

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you and I, back in the day.
Much smaller than...

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Jimmy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Kevin: So you got a ton of space

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and you bring people here,
right?

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Because you're doing classes.
Jimmy: We do classes.

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I bring friends together,
we do maker sessions.

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It's a lot of fun, a lot a lot
of room, a lot of resources.

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Kevin:
A maker's mecca. I love it.

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Jimmy: It is, it is.

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Kevin: So what do you think
you're going to do with me?

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Jimmy: Well, I think we should
do a leather project.

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And I broke out
some leather to show you.

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Kevin:
I've never worked in leather.
I'll be honest with you.

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Jimmy: It's a lot easier
than a lot of people think.

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Kevin:
It's kind of intimidating.

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I think of it as sort of
a refined material or skill.

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Jimmy: Well, a lot like fine
woodworking.

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People get nervous to cut
into that beautiful,

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expensive piece of material,

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and so it's intimidating
if you've never done it before.

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But it's very simple.

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Kevin:
So if this is the material,

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what do we actually work with?
Are these the tools?

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Jimmy: These are your basic
simple tools to do mostly

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any leatherworking project.
We have our stitch fork

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which creates the holes where
our stitching is going to go.

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Then we have our razor blade.
Kevin: Yep.

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Jimmy: Needle and thread.

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Kevin: Yeah, that's pretty
simple right there.

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Jimmy: And your mallet to nail
your stitch forks in.

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And just the divider
so we could mark

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from the edge of our cut piece.

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Kevin: Well, I'm a little less
intimidated seeing the tools

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because they seem pretty basic.

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Jimmy: They're basic.
This is all you really need

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to get started
with any leather project.

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Kevin: Alright.
What are you thinking?

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Jimmy: Well, I got
some inspiration here.

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These are some bags
that I've made over the years.

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This is a no-stitch bag.
It's just rivets.

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All things held together
with rivets.

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Kevin:
So just press those in there.

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Jimmy: This one's a little
more complicated.

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Done with a sewing machine.

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Complicated one.
Kevin: Lots of nice detail.

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We're not going to tackle
that today, are we?

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Jimmy: No. The simple project
we're going to do today,

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we're going to copy this bag.
Classic tote bag.

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Kevin: Perfect. Tote, canvas.

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Jimmy: We're going to make it
in leather.

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We're going to
take this basic shape.

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We're going to hand-stitch
it together in leather.

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Kevin: Okay.
Listen, if you're willing

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to teach, I'm willing to learn.

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Jimmy: Alright.
Kevin: You might lose some

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leather in the process, but...

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Jimmy:
Nah, we won't lose anything.

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We just got to make a paper
pattern on this to start.

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Kevin: Let's do it.
Jimmy: Let's go.

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Kevin: Okay.
Jimmy: Alright.

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This is our bag.

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We're going to use this bag
as our inspiration.

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And we need to make
a paper pattern first.

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Kevin: And obviously in paper
because we refine it in paper

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before we cut any leather.

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Jimmy: Exactly.

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We'll just do a couple of quick
little bits of tape

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to keep it together
so that we have

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our little leather shopping bag
at the moment.

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Kevin: Right.
Jimmy: Alright.

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This is a very hearty
piece of leather.

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It's going to make
for a pretty bag.

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We're going to have to
wrestle it around a little bit,

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it's so thick.

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Kevin: Back side, front side.
Does it matter?

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Jimmy:
This is what's going to show.

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Kevin: This is what's
going to show.
Jimmy: Yeah.

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So this is what's
going to be inside.

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Kevin: Gotcha. Okay.

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Jimmy: Okay.
Now with this paper pattern,

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we're just going
to gently trace it.

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And then we'll freehand
razor blade it out.

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Kevin: Start to get a sense of
the shape that's coming our way.

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Jimmy: Mm-hmm.
Kevin: Okay.

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Jimmy: Like I said, I could
skive this, but I'll see

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what kind of bends
I can get without skiving it.

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Because leather is very pliable.

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Kevin: That's cool.
That's coming together.

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Jimmy:
So once we stitch this side,

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this triangle is going to
fold up to create that corner.

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But we might have to skive it so
it folds up a little bit easier.

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Kevin: Boy, it's stiff enough.
It actually works like wood.

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Jimmy: Yeah.

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So now what we need to do
is establish our stitch line.

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You see the tiny line that it
impresses in the surface there?

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Kevin: Yeah, just a scribe.

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Jimmy: Just a little scratch.

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Kevin: Boy, it is subtle.
Jimmy: Yeah.

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This will give us a nice,

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consistent parallel line
to our stitch edge.

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For when we're about to use
the stitching fork.

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We establish our hole

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and you see how deep we got
to go through to get there.

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Kevin: That's a punch
all the way through.

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Jimmy:
And so we stay on our line,

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but we leave the last fork
into the last previous hole.

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That's how we maintain...

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Kevin: The consistency.
Jimmy: ...our consistency.

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Kevin: Interesting.

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If it were thinner,
would you always use a fork

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or could you just push
the needle through?

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Jimmy: Oh, no.

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Only Rambo
can push the needle through.

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Kevin: [ Laughs ]

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And there we go.

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And so now I know my whole
consistency in that spacing,

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I should land with the exact
same number of holes.

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So if there's 100 holes there,
there'll be 100 holes there.

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Kevin: Mm.

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Jimmy: Now I'm not punching.

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This is something I often do
too.

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I don't punch all the way
through right away.

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Kevin:
Set them up. Make the line.

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Jimmy: Yeah.
And this way,

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I don't have to focus on
my next pass.

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I know exactly where
I need to land.

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So now we want to establish
our stitch coming up the side.

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We'll do an X pattern.
So there'll be like an X across.

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And I'll show you
how we do that.

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Kevin: Okay.

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Jimmy:
Give me that black thread.

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Kevin: Special thread or no?
Jimmy: This is a wax thread.

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So it is a leather wax thread.
It's super strong.

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Okay, so we are establishing
our first stitch.

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You see we'll go
through and through.

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Kevin: Yeah.
Jimmy: It gets a little awkward,

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but once you start
establishing your stitch,

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everything comes together.

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Kevin: So in this case, the one
that came out of the right

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is going back
to the one on the left.

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Jimmy: Yep.
Kevin: And then vice versa?

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Jimmy: Yep.
Kevin: That's your cross.

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Jimmy: Yeah.

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Kevin: So you can see why
a high-end bag or something like

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that, a person would come in
and inspect the stitching,

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really look at it
and see how precise.

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Jimmy: Yeah, take a close look
at certain stitches on.

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I mean, I think they're still
overpriced, but you can see why.

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To tie off the end,

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I go back down the stitch
pattern a couple of holes.

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Kevin: A little reinforcement.

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Jimmy: Yeah.
Just to reinforce that end.

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And then we'll tie it off inside
down the line a little bit.

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So that should be good.

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And then I might, later on,
put a dab of glue on there

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just to keep that
from coming undone.

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Kevin:
Well, what do you say Jimmy?
You gonna let me jump in there?

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Jimmy: You think you got it?
Kevin: Well, it's -- I will see.

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We're going
to find out together,

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but I'll give it a try.

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Jimmy: Very good.

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Kevin:
Sort of like lacing the shoes.

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Jimmy: Yeah. Going through
the punch hole is easy.

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Coming back out of it
is the hard part,

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because they're not very easy
to see from the inside out.

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Because the inside
of this leather is furry.

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Kevin: Yep.

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Jimmy:
So it hides all those holes.

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Okay, so we got both
of our stitches up on the side.

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You did a really
beautiful job there.

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Kevin: You're being kind.
Jimmy: No, no, no, you did.

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But you see
how you catch a rhythm?

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Kevin: Yeah, totally.
Jimmy: Yeah.

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It's a little wear and tear
on your fingertips,

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but you get used to it.

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And now we're going to fold
this corner up and stitch that.

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So now that that's ready to go,

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I'm going to pull that up
tight like that.

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And then I have an awl
on the drill.

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Kevin: Oh, look at that. So it's
almost like an extended needle.

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Jimmy:
Yeah. And we're just going
to start putting some holes.

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[ Drill whirring ]

477
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So it is very simple to do,

478
00:19:21,566 --> 00:19:23,500
but it takes a lot of patience,
as you see.

479
00:19:23,566 --> 00:19:25,266
Kevin: Yeah, you kind of got
to get into the zone.

480
00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:29,500
I think if I took it up,
the ladies in my family

481
00:19:29,566 --> 00:19:30,966
would be bringing me dinner
in the garage

482
00:19:31,033 --> 00:19:32,933
because they'd never
want me to stop.

483
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,066
They'd be like,
"Make me another bag, Dad."

484
00:19:35,133 --> 00:19:37,300
Jimmy: It's really accessible
to most people

485
00:19:37,366 --> 00:19:39,866
because I've seen friends

486
00:19:39,933 --> 00:19:41,500
get into leatherwork
for the first time ever,

487
00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:45,400
and then all of a sudden
they're selling bags right away

488
00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:49,466
because they might have a unique
spin, a unique approach to it.

489
00:19:49,533 --> 00:19:52,800
Kevin: The creativity from
your painting or your pottery

490
00:19:52,866 --> 00:19:54,833
might translate
into your leatherwork.

491
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,300
Jimmy: Exactly.

492
00:19:57,366 --> 00:19:58,766
Okay, so those knots

493
00:19:58,833 --> 00:20:03,233
that I tied, to ensure
they won't come undone,

494
00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:06,066
I put a little bit
of PVA glue on them,

495
00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:09,133
and that will ensure that
those knots won't become undone.

496
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,200
Kevin: I like it.

497
00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:12,700
Jimmy: So, I have a bottle of
Edge Kote.

498
00:20:12,766 --> 00:20:15,233
That's to finish the edge here.
Do you ever get a fancy wallet

499
00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:17,766
and the wallet
has a darker edge?

500
00:20:17,833 --> 00:20:18,866
Kevin: Oh, that's cool.
Jimmy: Yeah.

501
00:20:18,933 --> 00:20:20,833
Kevin: It's actually
a good match.

502
00:20:22,966 --> 00:20:25,966
Jimmy: And now we're
going to cut handles.

503
00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,466
What do we think? We like?
Kevin: I do like.

504
00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:39,233
Jimmy: Seem like it's about
the right length.

505
00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:40,900
We could see.

506
00:20:40,966 --> 00:20:42,700
Feels good?
Kevin: Yeah.

507
00:20:43,766 --> 00:20:45,866
Jimmy: Okay.
All of our Edge Kote is dry.

508
00:20:45,933 --> 00:20:47,633
Time to put on the handles
with the rivets.

509
00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:48,933
Kevin: Mm-hmm.

510
00:20:50,933 --> 00:20:53,833
Jimmy: There's our hole.
Kevin: Oh.

511
00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:57,300
Jimmy: And now we want to punch
the hole in the bag.

512
00:20:57,366 --> 00:20:58,800
Kevin: Mm.

513
00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:01,800
Jimmy:
Now, these little saddle rivets

514
00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:06,000
are really good-looking
and they work really well.

515
00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:10,000
♪♪

516
00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:11,466
It bangs it down like that.

517
00:21:11,533 --> 00:21:13,800
Kevin: Makes it tight.
Jimmy: Makes it tight.

518
00:21:16,366 --> 00:21:17,666
Cut off whatever we don't need.

519
00:21:17,733 --> 00:21:22,833
♪♪

520
00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:24,100
You have the honors.

521
00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:27,866
♪♪

522
00:21:27,933 --> 00:21:29,166
Good. Okay. Done.

523
00:21:29,233 --> 00:21:31,066
Kevin: Nice, fine touch.
Jimmy: What do you think?

524
00:21:31,133 --> 00:21:32,866
Kevin: Beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.

525
00:21:32,933 --> 00:21:33,866
Jimmy: Thank you very much.
Kevin: Look at that.

526
00:21:33,933 --> 00:21:35,333
Yeah. Material is great.

527
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,766
I mean, the details,
the stitching,

528
00:21:36,833 --> 00:21:38,166
it's all just beautiful.
Jimmy: What do you think?

529
00:21:38,233 --> 00:21:39,300
Do you think
you can handle it?

530
00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:41,033
Kevin: Uh --
Now? Absolutely.

531
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:42,666
Jimmy: It's a lot easier than it
seems, right?

532
00:21:42,733 --> 00:21:43,833
Kevin: It is. It really is.

533
00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:45,633
The material works well,
the tools are simple.

534
00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:47,633
And it's not going to look like
this the first time I do it.

535
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:48,933
Jimmy: It might.

536
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,433
You see how forgiving
the material is and like

537
00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,300
I said before, it's just going
to get better looking with age.

538
00:21:52,366 --> 00:21:54,633
Kevin: Yeah.
Jimmy: One last thing.

539
00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:58,300
This is my maker's mark that I
put on all my leather products.

540
00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:03,166
Ah.
Kevin: Yes!

541
00:22:03,233 --> 00:22:05,400
Ah, worthy of that name
right there.

542
00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:08,066
Jimmy: Thank you very much.
Kevin: That looks terrific.

543
00:22:08,133 --> 00:22:09,400
I like it a lot.
Jimmy: Thank you.

544
00:22:09,466 --> 00:22:10,733
That came out good, that one.
Kevin: Nice job, man.

545
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,366
Hey, thanks for having us.
Always good to be here.

546
00:22:12,433 --> 00:22:14,033
Jimmy: Thank you so much
for coming back. I'm honored.

547
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,033
Kevin: Yeah, well, we'll come
back anytime, brother.

548
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,100
Jimmy: Thank you very much.

549
00:22:17,166 --> 00:22:18,666
Kevin: Alright, well,
that's it for us.

550
00:22:18,733 --> 00:22:20,233
So until next time,
I'm Kevin O'Connor.

551
00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:21,733
Jimmy: And I'm Jimmy DiResta.

552
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,400
Kevin: For "Ask This Old House"
here in the DiResta workshop.

553
00:22:24,466 --> 00:22:25,633
Jimmy: Thank you, guys.

554
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:32,300
♪♪

555
00:22:32,366 --> 00:22:39,066
♪♪

556
00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:42,633
Kevin: Next time on
"Ask This Old House,"

557
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,833
we learn it's never too late
to learn new things as Tommy

558
00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:47,733
takes a turn on the lathe.

559
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,533
Tom: I do most of my
turning late at night.

560
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,333
I'm up.
And why not turn a bowl?

561
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,866
[ Chuckles ]

562
00:22:54,933 --> 00:22:58,766
Kevin: Then later, he shows us
how to build a segmented bowl

563
00:22:58,833 --> 00:23:00,366
using the lathe.

564
00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:03,966
Plus, Heath gives us a review
on how to identify breakers.

565
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,766
All that on
"Ask This Old House."