- Tonight...
- Call me a bitch to my face.
You won't do it, 'cause you're a little bitch.
- On a very special episode of "The Bachelor."
- [bleep] you, Shanae. - You are one of the most
disgusting human beings I've ever met in my entire life.
- Talk to yourself. - You are a narcissistic,
gaslighting biotch.
- And it's nothing like you've ever seen before.
- Nobody gave two hoots about you having
a [bleep] buddy on the side.
- The [bleep] was good.
I wasn't gonna cut it off unless I was engaged, sorry.
[all yelling] - Oh, my God!
- And then...
- You're confusing love and lust.
- Clayton is under fire...
- The person constantly stirring the pot was you.
- Like no Bachelor ever before.
- You're a liar. - That was a slap in the face.
- I wish you would sit there and own it like a man.
- And don't miss tomorrow night...
- I'm falling in love with you.
- When the shocking drama in Iceland begins.
- I'm falling in love with all three of these women.
- It's really hard, because I don't know
where he is with everybody else.
- I just don't want to hurt anybody.
And I'm going to.
This is exactly what I was afraid of.
It's over.
- But tonight,
the women tell all.
- You're a walking red flag.
- You continue to lie.
- You can't talk about people lying
when you've lied to the man you're gonna marry.
- Whoops. Sorry.
- And it starts right now.
[applause]
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Wow.
Good evening, Bachelor Nation.
It is so great seeing all of you.
I'm Jesse Palmer, and welcome to "The Women Tell All."
This is a two-night
"Bachelor" event.
That's right.
Clayton's journey is gonna continue
tomorrow night in Iceland,
but first we have what promises to be
a very revealing and a very explosive evening.
All your favorite women, they're here tonight.
[cheers] That's right.
They're all here.
Even Shanae has joined us tonight as well.
[boos and jeers]
And they're all ready to get into all of it.
Obviously, this was my first season as host
of "The Bachelor," and I was just thrilled to join Clayton
on his journey to find love.
But I really don't think any of us,
especially Clayton himself, could have anticipated
the absolutely insane amount
of chaos and controversy that all went down.
And by the way, if you think you've seen it all,
you ain't seen nothing yet.
Later tonight, you're gonna get an exclusive sneak peek
at what I can confidently tell you is the most dramatic finale
in "Bachelor" history.
That's right.
That's right, I said it.
But before we get to any of that,
there's a lot of unfinished business.
There's also a lot of very opinionated women
who just can't wait any longer.
So what do you say? You ready to kick it off?
Should we get to it?
All right. Let's meet the women.
Please welcome Claire,
Kate,
Hunter,
Jill.
Elizabeth is with us tonight.
Say hello to Marlena,
Cassidy,
Kira,
Eliza.
Please welcome Shanae.
Sarah's here.
Lyndsey,
Mara,
Sierra's with us tonight.
Say hello to Genevieve,
Teddi,
and Serene.
It is so great to see you all again.
Thank you all so much for coming out here tonight.
I know we have so much to get to,
and I promise we're gonna get to all of it.
But first I want to go back to that very first night.
What was it like for you
when you finally got to meet Clayton?
- As soon as I saw him, I felt an instant connection,
and I just felt like a peace
of this is where I was supposed to be.
- I wasn't sure how into Clayton I was gonna be
right off the bat, and I was immediately much more
drawn to him than-- than I would have expected.
So I thought it was kind of--
you know, kind of special in that way.
- I mean, we all see him. He looks very good.
So that was a great start for sure.
- Well, listen. I think we can all agree
that Clayton's journey to find love,
it was definitely a wild one.
There was just so many tears and also so much drama.
Take a look.
[rock music]
- Clayton is everything I've ever wanted.
all: Clayton!
- Clayton is super handsome.
- He's humble. He's great at communication.
- Oh! - He's muscular.
He has a great smile. - He is so handsome.
And all these women are fighting for Clayton.
- Did you talk to him?
- Yeah, I hated him. - Wait, what?
- I would eat him and spit him out.
- It's the first night, and I'm so shocked
at how Claire is behaving right now.
- I can't be with, like, America's sweetheart.
I hate him. I don't know.
- Claire yelling that she hates Clayton,
that just shows her character
and it shows that she's unhinged.
- No. - What?
Okay, you two were not compatible, you didn't click.
Let bygones be bygones and, like, bye, be gone.
- Like, if that's how you feel, then go home.
All of us are stoked on Clayton.
- I'm here to build a relationship,
and I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do to get it.
- Where's Clayton? - Where is Clayton?
- I think he's still with, like, Cassidy.
I'm, like, so annoyed.
- Cassidy doesn't care what anyone thinks.
It's disrespectful.
And I would gladly tell her that right to her face.
- I'm simply not gonna apologize
for not hanging enough streamers.
- Why are you making it sound like that, Cassidy?
It's not hanging enough streamers.
- I think that the criticism that I didn't
pull my weight at a birthday party is a little silly.
They're threatened by me, and they should be.
- Like victory.
Who has the rose, bitches?
I didn't think so.
- Cassidy, she's playing a game.
She ain't good. She a little snake.
Cassidy, she has a friends with benefits,
and she was FaceTiming him right before she met you.
- Were you seeing someone up until the point
that you came here?
- No. I haven't--absolutely not.
- Cassidy was aggressive,
but, like, Shanae is Cassidy 2.0.
[dramatic music]
- Shanae-Nae has arrived.
[all cheering]
These women better watch out.
Don't get in my way, because I'm here.
I'm here to [bleep] win.
There are red flags in the house.
Elizabeth, she's two-faced.
And I just don't know if she's here for the right reasons.
- You just came to the guy that I'm trying to get to know
and told him that I was two-faced and had a red flag.
Every time Shanae opens her mouth,
it seems to be a worse and worse version of her.
It's disgusting at this point.
- Ladies, you want a piece of shrimp?
No one could even look back and acknowledge me.
Elizabeth clearly saw me walk up, and you can hear
my voice when I say, "Do you want some shrimp?"
You don't acknowledge me. - I wasn't outside
when you offered people shrimp.
- Elizabeth, you were in the hot tub.
- I was in the hot tub once, and it wasn't that day.
- You're toxic. You're fake to me.
And you're lying.
Get out, you lying whore.
[ohhing]
- We have to all tell him
this is not somebody you would want to marry.
- She just can't get along,
and she's lied, and she can't apologize for what she's done.
What the [bleep] are you doing here?
- Genevieve and Sierra, keep my name
out of your [bleep] mouths.
- Why are you here? - Why did she even come here?
- Your actions are very hard to defend.
Do you feel apologetic for it?
- No, I want to apologize.
Are you kidding me?
If anyone deserves an apology here, it's [bleep] me.
- I really appreciate it. - How'd your conversation go?
- It went good. I'm just regretting my actions.
And I am really sorry.
I'm not sorry, hos.
You mean [bleep].
Give me the Oscar. Give me the Emmy.
And give me the [bleep] rose.
[dramatic music]
Genevieve the Chihuahua is physically shaking.
She likes bark, bark, bark, bark.
Genevieve, bye, into Niagara Falls.
Literally, getting this rose tonight
is going to feel better than sex.
- Shanae, I cannot find it in my heart to give you this rose.
- He chose an actress over me.
[bleep] that guy.
[all whooping]
- Finally.
It's so long overdue.
all: Cheers!
- I'm not sorry to mean girls.
Sorry, but not sorry, bitches.
[cheers and applause]
- Shanae, did somebody lock you in the closet
when you were a little kid?
- No, honey. - Like, what the hell?
- 'Cause what was that? That was pretty dark.
- Sorry. You guys were all fake, sorry.
- Girl, we're fake? - We were fake?
- We're fake?
- You played Clayton. - I played Clayton?
- Yes, you played Clayton!
- You all played Clayton.
You weren't there for the right reason.
You weren't there, and you weren't there.
- She's crazy.
- You said, "I didn't need to cry, but I cried."
- You're not gonna apologize? - No.
- Who am I gonna get? - Talk to yourself.
- Am I gonna get Shanae, or am I gonna get
a budget-ass [bleep] Meryl Streep?
- Hey, I'm not sure yet.
He asked for openness, honesty, and vulnerability,
and I gave him all three.
- Did you fake an apology?
Did you fake an apology? - I faked an apology.
He asked me to apologize. I did it for him, not you guys.
- Okay, so you faked an apology,
and you told him you apologized
and that you meant it and that you wanted to.
You lied to his face.
And on another note, I'm just gonna say,
I love how you can call us all bitches behind a screen.
Call me a bitch to my [bleep] face.
[cheers and applause]
Call all of us bitches. You won't do it.
'Cause you're a little bitch. - All right. All right.
- You are a little-ass bitch. - All right, take a second--
- And you're lying behind a screen.
- Thank you. - You're a fake crier.
You're fake. - All right.
Sierra, Shanae, let's take a second.
Take a breath. We've only just begun.
We're gonna be here a while. [laughter]
Look, I know we barely just scratched the surface
with all the drama with Shanae,
and we're gonna have a lot of time
to get to that a bit later.
But I do want to go back to the very beginning,
and Claire, I want to start with you.
There have literally been hundreds of women
that have gotten out of the limo.
You might be the first ever to have literally
one conversation with our Bachelor
and go, nope, not for me.
- Yeah. - So what happened?
- You know, the second I got out of the limo,
my first conversation with him,
he was entirely too soft for me.
I need a person that has some edge to them
that can handle me.
He was not for me.
- But I didn't think that it was necessary
for you to [bleep] talk him
and to sort of make our relationship with him
start off on a bad foot.
- The issue was,
when you kept on telling us you're about to leave,
you're about to leave,
I would go someplace else, come back, you still here.
- Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. - You know, like--
- All right. So you know what, I'll--
I will--I will honest to God
say this, I was bored.
So guess what I did.
I went and I found myself the bar.
And I'm one of those people, when I know, I know,
and when I don't feel it, it's never gonna come.
So why waste my time?
- Cassidy, on the other hand,
you really fought for as much one-on-one romantic time
as you could get with Clayton very early on.
- As much screen time? Is that what you said?
- All the time. - Oh.
- All right, well, when you think back to it,
why did you choose such an assertive approach?
- 'Cause she was playing a game.
- I am just very forward.
I'm a very forward, assertive person
in my normal life, in my day-to-day life.
Anyone who knows me will tell you that--
- You're not forward. You're disrespectful.
You were disrespectful to the girls and to Clayton.
Just, like, the way she was going around the house
trying to intimidate some of the other girls,
I thought that this was a game
and that she really wasn't into Clayton.
- Okay-- - That's what you were,
not forward.
- I wasn't disrespectful to anybody.
Um, I minded my business.
I was just going for the guy that I was into
and trying my hardest to stand out in the crowd,
and you know, I, pshh,
I certainly didn't do it perfectly.
It was my first time, so-- - Clearly.
- You knew what you were doing though.
- You knew what you were doing, sis.
- Right, you're conniving. - You knew.
You're just--you're-- - Just, like, own it.
- You're very confident in who you are.
- I-I feel like I am owning it.
- You have a high ego, but you were a little arrogant
walking around the house at times.
You are abrasive when you talk sometimes.
- Well, in terms of my arrogance, I didn't realize
how much I was rubbing everyone the wrong way.
- I never felt so small in a room with Cassidy.
Even when you had the rose,
do you remember in the room when I said,
"I think you should maybe take it back a little bit?"
Because it was making me uncomfortable.
- Sorry, like, did you even know Clayton?
Because you spoke, like, two words to him,
and the rest of the time you were sucking face with him.
Seriously. - I mean, that's how I approach
dating in the normal world, right?
I see if there's chemistry, see if there's a spark,
see if you're a good kisser, and then--
then where you're from, you know what I mean?
- How has that worked out for you, Cassidy?
- Nothing wrong with it. - Not well.
I got sent home in week two, so...
- Nobody's faulting you for, like,
"I'm here for Clayton, not to make friends."
Like, it's so typical, whatever.
But you can't disrespect the girls--
- I feel like it's unfair to, like, continue
to harp on the fact that I was disrespectful to the girls,
because unlike a lot of you
who aren't getting the same accusation,
I didn't have a negative word to say about anybody
in any of my interviews,
except, like, the generic, "Game on, bitches,"
but, like, that was more of
a term of endearment in that setting.
- What about--you called her a bitch in the kitchen.
You were like, "Move, bitch."
And then you-- - Okay. Okay. Okay.
Saying, "Move, bitch" to--
- That was not endearing either.
You were like, "It's a thing of endearment."
- It wasn't--it wasn't-- - That's not endearing.
- Yeah, but you were disrespectful.
- When you met me,
you told me that you would instantly forget my name
because I look like everybody else here.
- That's not true. You know it. - No, it is true!
- That's not true. You know it. - It is true.
- You were dropping bombs that whole night.
You were dropping bombs-- - Okay, on that note--
- There were a lot of things-- - You were very boastful.
- Guys, on that note-- [overlapping chatter]
- In everyone's face with it-- - Rose--
- If you're gonna do all that, you might as well own it.
- It's not confidence. - It's all about respect.
It's about respect.
- All right, listen. I'm really sorry to do this.
I know we have so much to cover.
We are gonna get to all of it.
But we do have to take a short break.
We'll be right back with "The Women Tell All."
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- There's one guy that I have been
hooking up with on and off for a while.
He's a few years younger.
He FaceTimed me while I was at the hotel.
I told him I was about to leave for filming,
I couldn't tell him what for, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, my God. On that FaceTime, he was like,
"Well, whatever the show it is you're on,
"like, I can't wait for you to get back.
Let's watch it together and, you know, if there was--"
Hi. - Hey.
Yeah. - I don't know. It was--
it was validating to hear that from him.
[cheers and applause]
- Welcome back to "The Women Tell All."
So ladies, the tension, it really seemed like
things were boiling over by the second Rose Ceremony.
And Sierra, we just watched
a very revealing conversation with Cassidy
before that second cocktail party.
What did she say to you that was so alarming
and gave you concern?
- Her and I talked, and she basically told me
that she was FaceTiming her friend
in the hotel room before she met up with Clayton,
before we got into limos and everything.
And he talked to her, saying how he wanted
to watch the show with her when she got back,
that it would be cuddling season, and he wanted to do
all these "nasty things" with her--her words.
- But we all saw the conversation,
and that never happened.
- No, it did.
He said nasty things. He wanted to do
"nasty things" with you.
I will look you in your eye and say that you said it,
because I know I'm not a liar.
He said nasty things to you. Your words, okay?
Don't call me a liar, 'cause I know damn well I'm not.
- This was not a game to me, and I actually liked Clayton.
And it--it really hurt to see--
you know, it didn't seem like you ever
really had a connection with him.
And, like, you were willing to throw me under the bus.
- But you don't know. You don't know the conversations I have.
You don't know the conv--
- But you didn't know the conversations we had--
- I got to talk to Clayton every single night.
Obviously, I can't--
it's not gonna happen like this, instantly.
I'm not gonna make out with someone instantly.
I'm not going to go out and pounce on somebody instantly.
I have to grow over time-- - What you said and what
you did made it seem like the problem was...
- And that's what I need to do. - That I had a guy on the side.
And I didn't have a boyfriend. - Nobody--
- I didn't have a relationship. - That's the thing.
It's like nobody gave two hoots about you having, like,
a [bleep] buddy on the side.
It was the fact that you had plans...
- You had plans after.
You had the after plans.
- I never said that. - And that's--
- Why would I cut off casual sex
for a man I have literally never heard speak before?
No matter how you try and spin it or say which part of it
was the problem, the root of the problem that got us there
was that someone thought it was wrong that I had casual sex
with someone before coming on "The Bachelor."
And I just hate that we're still there.
You know what I mean? Because--
- It was the fact that you were having sex with him prior.
It was the fact that you left him on a tangent,
being like, I'll come back for you after the show.
That's where the problem was lying.
- But-- - Because for Clayton,
he's expecting to find a wife,
not somebody who put somebody on hold for a second.
- Trust me, if Clayton had proposed to me,
the phone call would have been, "Hey, I know--
"that show I couldn't tell you I was going on,
"it was 'The Bachelor' and I fell in love.
Good luck. Talk to you later." - There shouldn't have been
a phone call, regardless... - Talk to you never, whatever.
- Is the problem.
So we all watched you walk out--
- The [bleep] was good. I wasn't gonna cut it off
unless I was engaged, sorry.
- So he wasn't just a friend then.
- So nasty things.
- So he wasn't just a friend then.
So you just--so you literally--
- If that was so good, then you shouldn't have come
on a show to get engaged to somebody else.
- If it's that important, you're clearly not ready
to, like, settle down-- - Well, it's a good thing
I'm not anyone's fiancée then, I guess, huh?
- It is. - Well, thank God.
- I have a hot take.
I personally don't think it's that unforgivable
to have somebody on the side.
To me, the worst offense that you did was coach Shanae
and turn that bitch into Frankenstein.
[laughter] - That's very true.
- Kate, when did you first know
that there was going to be an issue in the house with Shanae?
- Shanae, to be honest, when I met you, I really liked you.
But then, as soon as you decimated that group date
and robbed me of my time with Clayton,
and consequently, I go home the next day,
the switch was flipped for me.
It literally felt like underneath that façade
was this, like, sinister, diabolical bitch.
- Yep. - I feel like, Shanae,
like, being around you was a lose-lose situation.
Like, we could be polite to you,
and if we were polite and, like, nice,
then we were two-faced bitches.
But if I distanced myself from you,
then we were bullies.
And it's like, watching it all back,
I now realize, like, you're the bully,
and from the bottom of my heart,
[bleep] you, Shanae.
- Really? - Like, you can go
rot in Ohio, for all I care.
Like, you are dirt. - Literally, rot.
- Shanae, you are one of the most
disgusting human beings I've ever met in my entire life.
- Hunter, where was this energy in the house?
[all yelling]
- Shanae, okay, where was your personality?
- It matters. It matters. - Where was your personality?
- Yeah, where was your energy-- [overlapping shouting]
- To our faces. [applause]
- Literally-- - Shanae.
Where was the honesty to our faces calling us bitches?
- Right, like-- - Remember,
I was isolating myself. - You called us hos.
- Remember that? - No, you were hiding
in your room away from everybody.
- I wasn't hiding from you guys.
I was not hiding. - And whenever you were
with us, you never once spoke.
You never talked. You sat there--
- I wasn't there for besties.
- All right, all right.
All right, listen. - Talk mad [bleep],
went to Clayton and started crying like a little bitch.
- Clayton asked me what was wrong and I told him the truth.
- All right, everyone, listen. Listen real quick.
It's obviously hard, Shanae,
for you right now to get a word in,
so I want to give you an opportunity to do that.
Obviously, you were at the center of a lot of the drama.
I think it's time we have a little chat.
Why don't you come up and join me in the hot seat.
- Absolutely.
- So great seeing you.
- Her ass looks terrible. - What is that outfit?
- Are you wearing a diaper?
- All right. I know this is a bit tough for you.
- A little bit. - How you feeling?
- [exhales] It's a lot.
- She's gonna fake cry.
Fake cry.
- Crocodile tears. - Fake cry!
[heckling continues] - Yeah. It's a lot.
I mean-- - Meryl.
- You knew this day was coming.
- Yep. - You knew you'd be here,
and you'd have to face everybody.
- Yeah, I mean, it's hard.
- You have to, like-- you made your bed though.
You have to, like, lay in it. - You have to own up
to your mistakes. - Take accountability.
- You literally made up all of these stories
in your mind and told Clayton.
- Oh, I forgot. 'Cause you sit in my
back pocket and you hear everything.
- Lyndsey's a bully, Rachel's a bully.
You made up all these lies, and then you're complaining.
And then we see you on TV running your mouth.
- What haven't we seen that--
you said there's more to the story that we haven't seen--
- Well, you're fake.
You didn't have a connection with Clayton.
What else? - That--that's--
that's what your story is? - Who cares?
- What is fake? - That's the rest of the story?
- Where's the fakeness? - Good job, Shanae.
- You're 100% fake, Genevieve.
- Okay, guys, here's-- here's what we're gonna do.
Listen. We're gonna go back,
and we're gonna revisit some of what happened.
I do want to give you a chance
to address that after the break.
We have more with Shanae
when "The Bachelor: The Women Tell All" returns.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- In the house, you make me uncomfortable.
You're toxic. You're fake to me.
I walk past you, half the time you don't talk to me.
And you have all these girls turning against me
because of you.
The lying, the bullying--
everything you can think of.
- Can you define a circumstance of bullying?
- You made shrimp the other day, right?
You asked if I wanted some.
I was like, wow, she's being really nice.
I'm gonna take some shrimp.
Me and Eliza make some shrimp, and I'm like,
hey, let me exchange the offer.
Let me see if these girls in the hot tub want some shrimp.
I do so, I go out. No one even turns to say--
- Does this sound like bullying to you?
- Please, Elizabeth. No one turns back
to even say just, Shanae, no thank you.
- Why is that my responsibility?
- I don't like it.
I don't like how the girls are treating me.
You're not nice.
- I have been nothing but kind
and respectful to you in the house.
- You haven't. - And as soon as Clayton
comes around, all of a sudden you have an issue.
Ask the girls in the house, Clayton.
- I--I just need to--
I'm gonna step away for a second.
- Okay.
[cheers and applause]
- Welcome back to "The Bachelor: The Women Tell All."
So I'm here with Shanae,
whose issues with the other women really led
to some of the wildest and also weirdest confrontations
the show has ever seen.
And I know all the women have opinions,
and we are gonna get to that, but I do want to give you
an opportunity to have the floor here for a moment.
Take me back to the very beginning.
What made you want to come on "The Bachelor"
and meet Clayton?
- Well, again, I have been single for five years,
and, going on the dating apps, you know, friends of friends
to finally, like, maybe focusing on myself, right?
So finally having confidence in myself, loving myself,
I'm like, let's apply to "The Bachelor."
So I did. - And this might actually
surprise a lot of viewers, but things were actually
pretty calm for you right at the beginning.
- Yeah. - It wasn't all drama
right away shot out of a cannon.
How did you feel things we're going
at the beginning with Clayton?
- At the beginning, I thought it was great.
You know, there was no drama yet,
so that was a good thing, but it just changed
after we all went into the house day two.
Just 360. - What happened?
- So Elizabeth-- going back to everything,
so Elizabeth and I were friends on night one or day one.
Day two, it was night and day with our "friendship."
And it went downhill from there.
She was toxic. She ignored me. She wasn't acknowledging me.
And again, if you want to be all those things, that is fine,
but don't call me your friend, don't lie about it.
- I don't know if anyone is aware of this time frame.
It's literally one day.
And I remember having one conversation
with you that first night.
And the only thing I remember you saying
in a group of about six women
was that you hadn't had a relationship in five years.
I shared with you a story
about my previously failed engagement.
And then I went to go get another drink
and had another conversation with another girl.
So if that is what you consider intimacy,
I can understand why you've been so confused
up to this point in your life.
- It wasn't about day two.
It wasn't about day three or whatever.
It was the whole time you were in the house,
you were fake to me, you ignored me,
you didn't acknowledge me.
You're fake.
- But wait, why would you--
why would you care though?
'Cause you came into this like,
"I didn't come here to make friends."
And that's cool.
Like, nobody's mad at you for that.
But then, like, don't be like,
"She wasn't my friend."
Like-- - I get that.
- You don't have to be my friend,
but don't be one way with me and then the opposite the next.
- She wasn't. - According to you,
she was ignoring you.
She was ignoring you. - Did I forget buying you
a best friends necklace?
Like, I don't remember any type of interaction
with you the first day that would garner
such really intense obsession, honestly.
- I'm pretty sure you're the one that said
that we were "really good friends."
- Oh, yeah. I also said I loved you, right?
- You did. And you forgot about that.
- Okay. - You apologize to me
over and over, you love me,
if we have a problem, you'll come to my face,
and you continue to lie.
- Lie about what? - I can't even riddle off
the amount of lies that you've told on this TV.
So don't even try to sit here acting like you're not a liar,
because we all know that you are.
- You're a hypocrite, Shanae.
And you are a narcissistic, gaslighting biotch.
That's what you are.
Like, that's what you've done to all of us.
That's what you've done to Clayton.
Like, I know it.
- All right, I want to fast-forward a little bit,
because everything then sort of escalated into Houston,
where trophies weren't even safe
at--at that point after the Bachelor Bowl.
And there was a real turn of events.
You apologized to the women.
- Fake. - Why did you do that?
- I did it for Clayton.
I didn't want to apologize. I was there for Clayton.
I liked Clayton at the time. [overlapping chatter]
And he asked me to apologize,
and it meant a lot to him, so I did.
- Is that not fake? - That sounds pretty fake.
[all yelling] - So wait, wait, wait, wait--
- I didn't want to, you're right.
I didn't want to apologize. - This is the thing,
Clayton said, "Do you want to apologize?"
And to Clayton's face, you said yes.
So you lied, there's a lie. Okay?
- I did it for him. - Hold up, hold up.
Then you lied, and then you came out,
and then you apologized.
You lied to us.
And then you went back to Clayton, okay,
and told him that you apologized
and you're really happy that you did,
okay, and that you think it's all gonna be good now.
So you lied to him again.
- So what about that, Shanae? - So you're a liar.
- What about that? - Address that.
- Yeah, explain-- riddle me that.
- I didn't want to apologize. Period.
- Why'd you lie to Clayton and tell him that you [bleep] did?
- Why did you lie? - So you lied to Clayton.
- You lied to his face! - If lying is such a big thing
to you, then why aren't you making a big deal about--
why aren't you holding that same [bleep] for yourself?
- Hold on, why'd you lie?
I want to know why you lied to Clayton.
- 'Cause I did it for him.
I didn't want to do it for you guys, period.
- Lying to Clayton for Clayton? - But you lied!
- Whoops, sorry. - You can't talk [bleep]
about people lying when you lie to the man
you're gonna marry!
You lied to his face. - Manipulation.
- Wow! - And so did you all.
So did you all. - Okay, so Shanae,
I do want to fast-forward again, because listen.
You did have the connection with Clayton.
He was experiencing feelings for you.
He liked you. He gave you a rose in Houston.
You then moved on to Toronto
where you were on a two-on-one date with Genevieve.
Take me back to that.
- Well, my strategy was to win,
get the rose, and send Genevieve home.
- 'Cause this is all a game to you.
- I mean, watching back, and then watching her say,
"This is Shanae and this is Meryl Streep,"
like, after she called me an actress to him.
- And a Chihuahua. Don't forget that.
- And a Chi--okay, wait, yeah.
I don't even know where that came from.
- Say you won in the end, and Clayton watches back
and sees how nasty of a human being you are...
do you think he would still want to marry you?
Do you think anybody wants to watch that and marry you?
- I'm--I think so. - I don't think so.
- I think so. - Unless they're trash.
- Shanae, that's why you're single for five years,
'cause you're delusional.
You called yourself an actor.
You called-- you compared yourself
to Meryl Streep, Shanae.
You compared yourself to Meryl Streep
after calling me an actress.
- Okay, okay. Look, look.
I think we got a lot to cover here.
I'll tell you what.
We got some room in the hot seat.
Genevieve, why don't you come on up?
We'll talk this out. - Oh, no.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Thank you so much for being here.
- Love you, Genevieve!
[loud cheers and applause]
- So we've got Genevieve, we've got Shanae.
We got a whole lot more
of "The Women Tell All" when it returns.
Trust me, you're not gonna want to miss this.
[dramatic music]
[cheers and applause]
- Welcome back to "The Women Tell All."
It's been an explosive start to the evening.
And we are just getting rolling.
I'm joined right now by Shanae and Genevieve who,
after a tumultuous few weeks, found themselves
on that two-on-one date in Niagara Falls.
And Genevieve, how much were you dreading
going on that date with Shanae?
- Part of me was a little nervous,
just because a two-on-one isn't something
that I would want to normally be on.
I don't think anyone would want to be.
Especially finding out you're going on a two-on-one
with someone who you would never want
to be on a date with.
It's hard. Shanae and I decided before,
we said we won't talk about each other.
And honestly, like,
I didn't want to spend my time talking about Shanae.
And then when he said, "Genevieve, I have a question,"
I mean, I just--
- And then you come to find out that he's asking you
if you're--if you're acting.
Shanae, why did you think she was acting?
- Well, the night before our two-on-one date, you--
I overheard you saying that you wanted to leave,
you had your bags packed.
That's like the second or third time I heard that.
- Yes, I--the first night, I was crying multiple times.
I wanted to go home. I was so stressed out.
When I found out about the two-on-one,
I was sobbing, like, honestly.
I was so anxious and worried and just, like, stressed out.
And then going there and hearing that,
like, are you an actress and are you lying to me,
I knew something was coming.
I had a feeling, because I knew
that Shanae would pull anything, honestly.
And then watching back, it's even more shocking,
because I see that Shanae's here comparing herself
to Meryl Streep and saying, on the date,
that she's so acting as she flips her hair.
And she's going to Clayton telling him I'm an actress,
so, like, it's shocking.
- So honestly, waking up to the two-on-one,
I was like, I'm going on this date with Clayton, right?
It didn't happen that way. I got eliminated.
You know, I-- after I got eliminated,
I went home, I was grieving.
I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat.
I've lost weight.
And then when you get eliminated,
you go home and [bleep] Aaron from Katie's season.
- Wh-- - Oh!
all: What?
- Oh, my God.
- The fact that you're even--
this is mind-blowing.
- Hold on real quick, I-wanna
to try to clarify what you're saying.
So you're talking about Aaron Clancy...
- Oh, yeah. - From Katie's season?
- Yeah, because I met him--yep.
I met him at a bar.
I--I didn't even kiss him. - No.
- Genevieve, you don't need to defend yourself.
- Yeah, without any evidence on that, that's a pretty--
- Without any evidence, that was absolutely uncalled for.
- Why would you just make that up?
- Okay, but so after you get eliminated,
you're not grieving, you're not sad.
You go hang out with Bachelor Nation.
- Oh, you know what? You know what's funny?
Oh, okay. I know you've been DMing him and all that,
and liking his stuff-- - 100%--go ask him,
'cause I've never slid in his DMs, honey.
- He sent me a screenshot, honey.
- I never slid into his DMs. all: Ooh!
- I've never slid in his DMs.
- Shanae, I have a screenshot. - Let me see it.
Go get your phone. Let me see it.
- He goes, "Is she really this bad?"
and sent me a screenshot of all your hearts
replying to his messages and all--
- That's replying. That's not sliding in his DMs.
- Okay. - I'm not sliding in his--
- All I'm saying is he thinks you're crazy,
so stop. [laughter]
- And it's not her fault Bachelor Nation might
be sliding in her DMs,
and it's very clear why they're not for you.
- Like you know. Like you know, Hunter.
I mean, they probably are sliding in your DMs
'cause your filters on your [bleep].
- Okay, okay. - What?
- Shanae.
- You know they don't have Facetune
video in "Paradise," right?
- Oh!
- One thing, one thing, guys.
One thing I do want to clarify,
so are you essentially saying that she wasn't there
for Clayton in the first place, and the fact that she was
hanging out with people from Bachelor Nation...
- Yeah, exactly. - After she got sent home
proves that?
- Why--if you are so into someone,
you're not going home
to maybe focus on yourself, doing your own thing.
You're hanging out with Bachelor Nation.
That is a red flag to me. Why would you do that?
- Everything's a red flag to you.
- Why did you do that? - You're a walking red flag.
- Why did you do that?
- You're a walking red flag.
- Why are you hanging out with Bachelor Nation
once you got eliminated on Clayton's season?
- Yes. - Why?
- I saw him at a bar. - You did. Okay.
- Nothing happened.
The fact that you went to "I [bleep] him"
is crazy in your head. - You never [bleep] him?
- Never. - Okay.
- Like, you're so delusional. It's like,
you don't even see, like--
of course Genevieve wanted to leave.
You made it miserable for everyone to be there.
Like, you ruined everyone's experience.
- So are you ever gonna just own up
to what you did and everything that you said?
- She's never going to. - No.
- That's the thing. Never.
- I personally would've loved
the opportunity to have the amount of time
to explain your actions and to justify and to even--
and even hopefully apolo--apologize,
provide literally anything, and I'm really frustrated
to see it squandered like this,
because you have such an opportunity and just nothing.
Just nothing, girl. - She doesn't care.
That's the thing.
- I don't. - She doesn't care about
anybody but herself.
[applause]
- All right, well, listen. Obviously, no love lost
between Genevieve and Shanae.
I feel like we could sit here for a week
and hash this all out.
Shanae, I want to give you the floor.
Any last thoughts for Genevieve?
- This is your last chance, girl.
- No. There's--no. Nothing.
- No thoughts in the head. You heard it here first, folks.
- Can I say something? - Genevieve, yeah.
- Um, I'm honestly just very glad
that America got to see everything that you are.
Um, you have manipulated every single person here,
including Clayton.
And everyone sees that.
And the fact that you're gonna sit here all poised,
like, just acting like you did nothing wrong,
it's sad and it shows a lot about your character.
You're just a bad seed, and,
like, if Clayton were to end up with you, I mean,
he would watch it back and just have been so disappointed.
So thank God.
Thank God your ass went home. - That's your opinion.
That's your opinion. - Thank God your ass went home.
- That's your opinion. - Well, Shanae, Genevieve,
I appreciate you both coming up here
and being so open and honest.
Thank you so much again. - Thank you.
- When we come back, we've got another controversial woman
that will join me here in the hot seat,
and I guarantee the women,
they're gonna have a lot of feelings about her.
Oh, and what will they have to say to Clayton
when he steps onstage?
Can't wait for that. So don't go away.
[upbeat music]
- Coming up...
- We're all telling you
that Shanae is toxic--
- But you kept her.
That was a slap in the face.
- Clayton takes the hot seat,
and the women turn up the heat.
- It feels like the person
constantly stirring the pot was you.
- Sit there and own it like a man.
- I think that you need to figure out
what it takes to be a married man,
and I don't think that you were there yet.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to "The Women Tell All."
Look, it has already been an historic night already.
We had our first ever two-on-one rematch,
and I also know there's so much more
that these women have to say.
And the next person really made quite the impression on Clayton
after she bared it all on her one-on-one date,
but when the women claimed she was being manipulative,
she ultimately got sent home.
Sarah, why don't you come up?
[cheers and applause]
So great seeing you.
Have a seat, Sarah. - Thank you.
- Thank you so much for being here.
- Yeah. Thank you for speak-- - Well, listen.
As I look back to your journey with Clayton,
you both really did connect.
But as your confidence in your relationship grew,
so did the conflict with some of the other women.
Let's take a look.
[romantic music]
♪ ♪
- Hi.
Wow. You are even cuter in person.
Oh, my gosh. Clayton looked so good.
Just, like, his smile and--
I don't know, just his presence.
♪ You already know I'm not about the drama ♪
♪ I just wanna take you home to meet my mama ♪
- Ooh. - [laughing]
I love the gentle giant energy.
Like, I like someone who can, like,
take charge but also is just, like,
a little more softhearted.
I'm just happy and feel really comfortable around him.
You are, like, special to me already, and it's just weird.
But it's cool.
[quiet laugh]
Everything's clicking. It's falling into place.
I'm already, like, smitten with him.
Obviously, he's really cute,
and he's, like, exactly my type.
This could be the beginning
of me and Clayton falling in love.
No one can get in the way of that.
- You've been adamant about saying that you're looking
for a wife and looking for children and long-term,
but there are some women here that aren't.
- Okay.
- Sarah, she's got this confidence
that is teetering on cockiness.
She is not wife material or of wife age
or in the mindset to be a wife.
- It's no one's place to tell Clayton
what they think I am ready for,
but Clayton identified this as a last-ditch effort
by someone who feels like they're going home.
I mean, if she wanted to protect him,
the only person she protected him from was herself.
It's a bitch-ass move, but it was weak.
I'm gonna go find a vase for my rose,
and you can book your ticket home.
Sayonara, biotch.
- You're getting a little sloppy, and it's showing.
For everyone's sake, it'd be best if you kind of
went back to just a cute, quiet confidence,
because some of your comments are a little manipulative,
and they bring the girls down.
- Sarah, like, knocked on our door and came in and,
like, told us you guys were crying together.
- She said that I cried?
- Mm-hmm. - Hearing that, it's like,
a shock to me, because I don't see,
like, why that's being said, 'cause there's no truth to it.
I'm shocked to hear Sarah's been saying things
that simply just haven't happened.
I just can't believe it.
I absolutely need to figure this out.
- I don't know why anything changed,
because it's like, I've had best friends here,
and I've been, like, a sounding board for them,
and I've listened to them when they cried.
But then when it comes to me, like,
I'm not, like, allowed to feel anything.
[sniffling]
- I'm just gonna be real with you, like,
I really felt like you were trying to fake cry to me.
Like, it didn't feel genuine at all.
- I honestly have, like, no tears left
because this has been...
a really, really tough week.
- I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you.
And I think we're done.
[dramatic music]
[cheers and applause]
- I know there's gotta be
a lot of mixed emotions watching that back.
[mouthing] Yep.
You doing okay?
- Yeah. Just a second.
- I'm watching you. You're getting emotional.
What is it?
- Um, I think more than anything, it's just, like,
sad to see a beginning with so much potential
end the way that it did.
Um, you know, regardless of what happened in between,
it's just sad.
- So where did it all go wrong?
- I think the week that I received
that second one-on-one, the week in Croatia,
that for everyone was a turning point.
And then seeing, you know, myself receive
a second one-on-one when there were amazing women
not even getting their first,
that just inevitably changed the chemistry within the house
and our relationships with each other.
It was never, ever my intention to make anyone feel insecure.
- Okay. I want to open it up to Mara,
because, Mara, you were really outspoken with respect
to your belief that Sarah was not ready for an engagement.
Why? - I saw things from her
that I didn't find to be coinciding with wife material.
- I think Mara honestly fell on the sword
for a lot of people who were feeling the same way.
It just sounded like the well was being poisoned.
Like, their connections weren't measuring up,
when in reality, we don't really know
if the information that was being received was accurate.
- Sarah, after the first one-on-one,
she said "I was the rock for him,"
and you guys cried together,
and it was kind of like, okay, you're it.
Like, he said, like-- - And I understand--
I completely understand that
that's maybe how it made you feel.
If I had've known that,
I would have cleared that up immediately.
- No, regardless of how you made me feel,
like, if you didn't-- if Clayton wasn't crying--
like, he seemed to say, like, "I wasn't crying."
So I'm just wondering why I heard that, like,
he was crying to you when he says he wasn't crying at all.
- I can ensure you my intention was never to hurt anyone.
It was to--genuinely just to share, just to connect,
just to freaking survive.
- It seems you were using it as a weapon
against the other women to make them feel intimidated
and not so secure.
- Absolutely not. And if you know me,
you know my intent would never,
ever be to purposely hurt anyone
or to purposely make anyone feel insecure.
- I don't know if maybe it's just your perception
is different than what was actually reality.
I don't know what your intentions were.
Um, I think where things get confusing
is you haven't really touched on the things
that you were telling us versus actually reality.
You did say that Clayton cried. That wasn't true.
I would just love, and I think we could all move on from it,
if you would just at least admit
that you were saying these things,
because I think, like, where it really hurt me
and where it really hurt Rachel is we were your friends,
and you are calling us liars, and, like, I would never lie.
- I think what I know is that
there were multiple other people in the room--
and Sarah, like, I had a conversation
where I was willing to listen to you,
but when six or however many other women at this point
saying Sarah is saying these things,
Sarah's giving these details.
Okay, is Clayton lying? Or are the women lying?
or are there details that are, like--
because there-- it's just not making sense.
- Did you cry with Clayton? Did he--did he cry?
- Yes, I did, very much.
- Like, did he cry though?
- But did Clayton cry? - Did Clayton cry?
- I really don't want to speak for Clayton.
Yes, there were instances where he did get
upset on our one-on-one.
- Did you see tears?
- I mean, yes.
- Yeah? Okay. - Correct.
- Okay. - All right, so we'll hear
Clayton say that he didn't. - Yes, we--
- Let's have them both-- - Yeah. We should ask Clayton.
- We got to talk to Clayton about that.
- All right, well, listen. - 100%.
- It was--it was a very,
very emotional ride.
There was a lot of ups and downs.
I do appreciate you being here
and rehashing all of this for us.
Thank you so much.
[cheers and applause]
All right. When we return,
a Bachelor Nation favorite will join me in the hot seat
to talk about her tearful departure
and where things stand now in her love life.
So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back, Bachelor Nation.
Now, this next woman got the First Impression Rose,
and she really thought Clayton could be the one.
But then unfortunately, Clayton didn't feel the same way,
and he eventually sent her home.
Teddi, can you join me?
[cheers and applause]
Thank you so much for being here.
Have a seat. It's so great seeing you.
- Good to see you too. - All right, there is a lot
to digest about your time with Clayton.
We'll get to that in just a minute.
Let's take a look back at your journey.
[soft music]
- How you doing? - Hi. Good. How are you?
- Good. It's so great to meet you.
- It's nice to meet you.
You look very handsome. - Thank you.
You look beautiful. - Thank you.
So my name is Teddi.
- Teddi? - Yes.
- Okay. - Like a teddy bear.
- Teddy bear. I love that.
- And I heard that you are the big teddy bear.
That's what everyone's been saying.
- Who's selling me out?
Man, Teddi, when I saw her step out the limo,
I felt that spark right away.
I can't figure out why I'm so entranced,
but there's something about her.
I don't even know how to explain it.
Just when we talk it, it just--
there's--there's a clear connection.
Kissing Teddi, I feel on cloud nine.
Or cloud ten, if you can even get there.
- Ooh.
- But it's so much more than that.
- [giggling]
- She's funny. She's absolutely beautiful.
And she's somebody that I really do
have strong feelings for.
Like, with you, I have felt sure, like, since day one.
- Yeah. - And it was nice
to walk down there through, like, the town.
- Yeah. - And I just feel like
it's just, like, the two of us.
- Totally. - It's nice.
- It was just like a perfect day.
- Yeah.
- I think Clayton could be my person.
He checks all of the boxes that I feel like I-I have.
Like, you are so different from guys I've dated,
and, like, I really feel like this could be something.
- Absolutely. - He's so sweet.
He's so kind.
I just feel so connected to him
in a way that I've never felt with a guy before.
- One, two, three.
- I could see myself falling in love with him,
and it's scary,
because there are things I still haven't told him.
So I am a virgin.
Although I don't feel the need anymore,
like, to wait until marriage.
- Yeah. - But I am gonna wait
until, like, the first time that I am in love.
I mean, I've never been in love.
But I really am allowing myself to fall,
because I do feel really safe, like, when I'm with you.
And I see a lot of hope in, like, what we could have.
And, like, I want that.
- Well, it means so much that you say that.
And I am very thankful that, like, you feel safe around me
and are able to open up.
- I really feel like this is the start of my fairy tale.
And it's gonna end with a ring on my finger.
- [grunts]
- I feel like Clayton could actually be my husband.
It is special to think he could be my first and my last.
- Gabby.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
Teddi, thank you again for everything.
It was so nice to get to know you,
and I will forever have a special place in my heart.
- Okay. - Okay.
- I did trust him, and I did feel safe with him,
and I haven't felt that way in a relationship before.
Like, I just, like, crave that, like, safety
and that, like, trust and that, like--
that, like, bond with someone and, like--
[sighs]
I do feel worthy of love, but,
like, I am coming up short, and, like, I don't understand.
I do want to be someone's first choice.
Of course, like, I thought that it could be him,
but it's not. [sniffling]
[cheers and applause]
[chuckles]
- What sort of emotions do you experience
when you watch that back?
- Um, yeah, that's my first time seeing that.
Um...
I think it's just seeing the beginning to the end, um...
I did not think I was gonna be emotional.
Just seeing like how we started out,
and it was so strong.
And I think we both felt right away that this could,
like, really end in engagement.
And then just, like, watching it all the way through,
yeah, it's, like, hard to see.
It's hard to hear the ways he was validating me,
and then seeing--
I just remember that feeling of when he called--
he didn't call my name.
Um, and just, like, hearing myself talk about
not feeling worthy just, like, isn't fun...
- Yeah, you--you had-- - To watch.
- You had said that you feel worthy of love,
but you always end up...
- Yeah. - Falling short.
- Yeah. - How come?
- You know, like I told Clayton early on,
I do take a while to trust men.
And that just, like, comes from my childhood and,
you know, I come from, like, a very loving family.
I'm very blessed. My parents love me so much.
But I think when you're a kid
coming from parents that separate a lot--
my dad was not around a lot.
And again, that was just because
they were having problems, but as a kid,
I think you take on a lot of that
and feel like it's your fault.
Um, so I always tried to be perfect.
I always got straight As.
I always played the sports that I knew,
you know, he was interested in.
And, um--
sorry.
- You got it, girl.
- Um, yeah, I think I did those things
'cause I thought that would make me worthy of love.
And again, like, my parents love me so much,
but I think, like, as a child,
like, I just took on so much of that
and feeling like I wasn't worthy of the--of that love.
And then that just started coming into relationships
where I would date guys that it was very toxic.
And I never fully felt like I was enough with them.
And yeah, I think this was just, like, another scenario
where I was in an environment where I was kind of having to
gain this guy's affection and gain his love
by doing things to try to earn his attention.
So then to, like, come up short again,
yeah, I think it was hard, and yeah,
it was just hard to watch. [small laugh]
- You said that you were craving safety and trust.
- Mm-hmm.
- Did you see Clayton as being a person
that could provide that for you?
- At the time, I thought that he could be.
And I-I thought that I was gonna be in the Fantasy Suites,
and it was something that I was thinking about
of is he going to be my first?
I think society puts a lot of pressure on women
that it changes who they are if they lose their virginity,
and I just kind of wanted to make it known that, like,
I don't feel that way.
I think it's okay if someone wants to wait until marriage.
I think it's okay if someone
wants to have sex every weekend.
Like, I think-- I think it just should be...
- Whoo! - A personal decision.
[applause]
- I want to go back to the first night.
I think the First Impression Rose,
in a lot of ways, is a gift.
- Mm-hmm.
- I think sometimes though it can also be a curse.
- Yeah, totally. - Did you feel that?
Did you feel the pressure?
- Um, yeah, I did.
It was, like, so amazing that day to get it,
and then, like, immediately go into that group date
where it was clear that he was going to be open to everyone,
which is what you're supposed to do.
I think just starting on such a high,
it did make my low feel even lower in that moment.
- We didn't see a ton of emotion
from you until that car ride.
- Yeah. - Again, until right now...
- Yeah. - Here on "Women Tell All."
How has your life changed?
- I just feel so open and ready for love now.
I know that I'm gonna make an amazing wife one day,
an amazing mother one day.
[cheers and applause]
- A little birdie told me that somebody in particular...
- Mm. - Slid into your DMs.
Who was it that reached out to you?
- Mm. Um...
- You got to clear this up for us.
- Don't make me say it, Teddi. Don't make me say it.
- Say it. - Don't make me say it.
- Clayton's brother did reach out to me.
[all yelling]
I didn't reply.
Um, yeah.
I will say, I think one Echard boy
in my lifetime was enough for me.
[both laugh]
- That's unbelievable. - Thank you, Jesse, for that.
- Maybe you just met the wrong brother.
- Yeah. - I don't know. Well, listen.
I really appreciate you being here.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Again, so many fans at home... - Thank you.
- We can't wait to see what's next for you.
Let's hear it for Teddi, everybody.
[cheers and applause]
All right, coming up, Serene's gonna join me in the hot seat.
And then later, Clayton will face off
against all of his exes on this very stage.
And after what we've seen tonight,
I think it's safe to say
things might get a little tense.
Stick around.
Coming up...
- Who are you to subject these women
to this kind of behavior of yours?
- Clayton faces the women, and they go off.
- Sit there and own it like a man.
- That was a slap in the face.
- It feels like the person constantly
stirring the pot was you.
- I was like, I don't want him to make a stupid-ass decision.
You did that on your own.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to "The Women Tell All."
This next woman may have been slow to open up,
but she really faced her fears, and she won Clayton over
with her vulnerability.
So where did it all go wrong?
Serene, why don't you join me in the hot seat.
[cheers and applause]
So great seeing you.
Thanks for being here.
Well, I know we got a lot to get to.
First, let's take a look back at how your journey unfolded.
[soft music]
- Hi. - How you doing?
- Good. How are you?
- I'm doing great.
- I'm Serene. - Serene.
- From the jump, I felt
like a really quick connection with Clayton.
How are you? - How you doing?
- What I like most about Clayton is that he is funny
and goofy and, like, we're able to, like,
play and have fun together.
Oh, man. [both screaming]
- Oh, my God!
- Clayton is completely different
from guys that I've dated in the past.
- You just got to take a leap of faith.
- [screams]
I feel like he is genuine with me,
and that's why I feel so comfortable.
This journey has proven to be really hard,
but whenever we're together,
you make that a safe space for me to open up.
It's amazing what feeling seen and heard
will do for a connection.
- This seems to be going exactly, like,
how it should be, and I am so ready to meet your family.
Will you accept this rose?
- Of course.
Everything I learn about him is something
that I would value in a future husband.
And meeting my family is, like,
one of the biggest pieces to the puzzle.
- I don't want you to get hurt.
But I support whatever you do with it.
I trust you. I love you.
I really, really do.
- After my hometown date and seeing him with my family,
I definitely feel like he could be the one.
I am not, like, falling in love with you.
Like, I-I'm in love with you.
I feel really peaceful in the fact
that I've laid everything out there,
and I feel really good about that.
I'm in love with Clayton.
- Rachel.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
Serene, thank you so much.
- I'm shocked, confused.
I literally told the man I was falling in love with him
and in love with him.
And if that doesn't do something for him,
then, like, there's nothing I can do.
It sucks. It really does.
And I wish it were different.
But...like I gave it my all.
[applause]
- I know that's the first time you've watched that back.
- It's really hard, because, like, watching everything back,
I felt like I gave everything, and it still,
you know, wasn't enough.
And in our last conversation, I was left even more confused,
because he told me that I'd-- I did more than enough
and, like, not to think that I wasn't enough.
- Of course, you had told him that you had difficulty
at times expressing yourself and showing your emotions.
You had shared with him the story about the tragic passing
of your cousin who you were so close with.
What was it like to share that story with Clayton
and truly feel heard by him?
- It was really special, because, you know,
just having, like, all these cool experiences,
meeting all these people, like, those are things that,
like, she would never get to do.
And so I want to make sure that I'm living my life
to the fullest, because that's what she would want me to do.
And I'm doing it for me, but, like,
also for her, because she doesn't get to.
- You then took Clayton to Hometowns to meet your family.
Lot more emotion there. - Mm-hmm.
- Especially with your brother, Roland.
- Did not see that one coming. - No. He--
- No. - He got really emotional
talking about his fear of you getting hurt.
- Um, you know, he is my big brother,
and we-- we've grown up really close,
and I call him and ask him for advice
with guys and stuff like that.
And, you know, I've also really called him
when I was in the trenches and when I was really hurting,
and he was around for all of that
and experienced all of that with me.
- He mentioned how you're very fearless in life,
but with Clayton, you showed a fearlessness in love.
- I was uncomfortable pushing myself, like,
the whole time, but also it felt right.
And it's like, okay, it's time to break down these walls.
And I--I really felt like Clayton was the right person
to do that with.
- It's one thing to tell him that you were
falling in love with him,
but then what'd it feel like to finally tell him
you were in love with him?
- For me, I wanted to feel like if I was feeling it,
like, I--I didn't want to filter myself or,
you know, hush any of that down.
I wanted him to know where I was coming from
and know where I was at with him.
- Where are you at right now?
- I'm really excited for the future and,
like, hopeful that that person is still out there.
I know they're still out there.
- They are. - And it's just a matter
of timing and a matter of meeting him, so...
- Serene, thank you so much for being here.
We certainly wish you the very, very best.
Let's hear it for Serene, everyone.
[cheers and applause]
All right. Coming up next,
Clayton's finally here to face all of his exes.
That's not gonna be uncomfortable.
And that's coming up when "The Women Tell All" returns.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to "The Women Tell All."
It has been quite a night.
And I've got the feeling it's about to get
a whole lot more dramatic.
That's right, it's finally time.
It's time for Clayton to come out here
and face the music.
Everybody ready for this?
[cheers and applause]
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Please welcome Clayton.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
What's up, brother? Good to see you, man.
You been good? - Good to see you, man.
- Oh, it's so good to see you.
- Oh, man, it is--yeah.
I can't believe we're here. - Yeah.
Thanks for being here. Listen,
I've sat in that seat before,
and it--it gets pretty hot.
- Nerves are racing at an all-time high right now.
- Yeah, we're gonna get through it together.
Don't worry about it. - Yeah. Well, thank you.
I'm glad that I got you on my side,
but it's great to see you all.
You guys all look great.
Guess we'll get into it. - Yeah.
First time in a while that you've--
you've sat here in front of all the ladies.
How does it feel?
- I don't know if it's cliché, but it just--
it feels--it felt like a dream.
I think going out of the experience
and going back to my life, per se,
I started to have all these rush of emotions come back.
And then watching it back, and now we're here.
It's like, we lived it, we watched it,
and now we're back to experiencing it again together.
- What was the hardest part to you about being the Bachelor?
- It's-- now that I see it played back,
the hardest part--the hardest part's been watching it.
It's one thing to go through it
and feel that you did your-- you gave it your best.
It's another thing to go back and analyze it all and realize
that I was far from perfect and I made a lot of mistakes.
- Okay, so what do you regret?
- I wish I would have done things differently.
But as far as it comes to regret,
I did everything in those moments
that I thought was best.
And then--and then ultimately,
they weren't maybe the right decisions to make.
But I can't really say I regret anything,
because I had all the best intentions
with all of my actions that I took.
- Yeah. - Unfortunately,
there were repercussions for those actions.
- I don't know. Like, Clayton, like--
I'm not coming at you or anything, you know me.
Just--just a true question.
Why neglect all of the words that you're hearing
from all of these wonderful women?
I mean, Sarah, Susie, me, Teddi,
like, we're all telling you that Shanae is toxic
and she is hurting the entire house,
and then she does this one fake apology,
lies to your face constantly,
and you choose to believe her over all of us.
Like, why? That doesn't make sense.
[laughter]
- I mean, it's a fair question,
and as I started having people come and tell me things,
I mean, this was early on and we hadn't built trust yet,
and I was looking to build that,
but I knew that came with time.
And so I was wanting tangible evidence,
something that I could say, this--
- But what's more tangible than the entire house?
- Yeah. - I'm gonna stop you
right there. - Six women.
- 'Cause I-- I told you about Shanae.
I know Sierra did. I know Mara did.
Like, numerous of us said it, and it's like,
I don't know, it's just, like, frustrating for me
to see you, like, sit here and say that.
It's like, I wish you would have--
you would sit there and own the fact
that you had a better connection with Shanae
than all of us.
And it's like, sit there and own it like a man.
'Cause nobody forced you to, like, force her on a table...
- Yeah. - And make out with her.
- No, I-- I don't want to dodge it.
And no, I had-- we had a connection.
And I was basing my decisions off of--
yeah, off of the connection that I felt.
And Shanae, I thought it was real,
and it seemed genuine,
but when you threw the trophy in the pond, it--
to me, that was something that was indefensible.
At that point, I'm like--
- But you kept her. - That was indefensible.
- But you kept her. - You sent us home.
That was a slap in the face.
- That's disrespectful, 'cause I had your back.
I was looking out for you. And I was like,
I don't want him to make a stupid-ass decision, you know?
You did that on your own. I'd--I'd tried to help you.
I tried to help you, and I'm not even trying to diss you.
I tried to help you. I literally tried to.
- We all did. - And it's like,
I think you're confusing love and lust.
I think that you need to figure those two out
and really realize, like, what it takes to be a married man,
and I don't think you're there yet.
And I think that eventually you will get there,
but I do not think right now or during this journey
that you were there yet.
- Okay.
So--so Clayton,
after hearing all that from all the women
and obviously having watched this back,
what do you have to say to Shanae now?
- Shanae, I--the big thing that I was frustrated at is, again,
I believed you, I did.
And I thought we had a genuine connection.
But as I watched it back and to see you fake tears,
to see you be playing this game,
you did, you manipulated the women, you manipulated me.
- Again, there was a lot
of other things that you didn't see.
You asked for openness, vulnerability, honesty.
I gave you all of that, Clayton.
- It was fake, Shanae. - Girl, it was a lie.
- It wasn't. - It was a lie.
- It wasn't. - It was all a fake.
- Oh, Shanae! - You said it--
[all yelling] - I gave you all of that,
and it was true.
When I opened up to you, those were real.
- I'm confused. - What?
- No. - It's just frustrating,
because I trusted you, I believed you.
And it was the worst thing that I could have done.
crowd: Oh! - Period.
- Yeah, don't even listen to her, Clayton.
You've done wasted enough time on her.
- Is there an eject button over there?
- All right, all right. I want to--
I want to calm it down for a second.
I want to ask you about your time with Sarah.
That was a relationship that I know there were
a lot of concerns that were brought to your attention
from a lot of different women.
Why did you choose to listen to those,
and how did it affect your decision?
- Yeah, you know, at that point,
the women that came to me, I had
a fair amount of trust in them.
And for them all to be together in that moment
and telling me this same story,
it became a big red flag.
Your actions had women
questioning if they should stay.
And almost all of them told me they were gonna leave
because of what you were telling them.
And what it came across, just to me,
was that you were playing this game for your benefit
to get them to all leave to eliminate the competition.
And as I went forward, I started to wonder
if anybody else was playing that game as well and was--
'cause I didn't see that with you.
And I didn't even know if I believed it at times,
but I went forward realizing, well, if she was so good
at covering this up, could some of these women
that are still here be playing this game as well?
And it just put me in a really bad spot mentally
where I started to question everything.
And I just want you to know that, yeah,
your actions had ramifications.
I'm not saying that that's what you were trying to do.
I truthfully, as I watch it back, I don't really know.
- It's difficult, because it feels like...
I was under the impression and I would like to still choose
to believe that we did have an amazing relationship
and we had great trust that was built.
But watching it back and seeing some of the things
that I didn't before, I can't help but feel as if--
it's ironic that you are questioning if I'm disingenuous
because it feels like that's what you were doing to me.
I was already doing my best to navigate the drama,
and every time I felt like I tried to address Mara
or address the women and fix it to move forward
because I cared about you and our relationship,
it feels like the person
constantly putting me back into it
and constantly stirring the pot was you.
And I wish that you would have respected me enough
in our goodbye to have ended our relationship,
regardless of what had happened,
based on you and I and our relationship,
not based on external things and hearsay, she say, whatever.
- When those accusations were brought to me,
they were from women that I really trusted.
And, again, with them all being in unison,
I felt that I had to bring it up to you.
And I don't understand why you said
the things you were saying, such as,
you know, "He cried with me."
And listen, here's the thing. Real men cry. I cry.
I mean, you guys have seen it.
In the previews, I cried plenty of times.
Like, I'm not upset that you said that because it's like,
oh, you know, oh, she's calling me out for crying.
No, I cried plenty.
But like, what it was was I was questioning
why would you tell the other women I did that when I didn't?
And that was where-- - And that's the tea, sis.
- There it is. - And that's the tea, sis.
- Because we did have this as a topic of conversation earlier.
- Yeah. - Sarah did
say that you did cry.
It was a little bit of a wishy-washy response.
So you're saying that you did not cry
on your first one-on-one with Sarah?
- No, I did not.
- I did not say you cried to me.
I did not say that. I also--when I was--
when I was clarifying-- when I was saying the thing
about not accepting the rose, I was--
they were asking about the date, and I was saying
how it was hard and uncomfortable and whatever.
Sorry if I, like, overshared that and it was uncomfortable,
but this feels ridiculous, again,
to talk about crying or not.
I think we both have shed enough tears on camera...
- You lie! - To not have to
discuss this any further.
And I don't understand how it's applicable anymore.
But that's what I said.
- Just to be clear, just to be clear, I do want to say this.
You did not cry with Sarah?
- I did not cry on the first-- any of our dates.
- All right, Sarah. I mean,
that's from the horse's mouth.
[laughter, scattered applause]
All right, listen. We do have to take a short break.
Clayton, sit tight. We're not quite done with you yet.
We got so much more with Clayton and the women
when we come right back.
Stick around.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to "The Bachelor: The Women Tell All."
Now Clayton, I know this is the first time that you've talked
to any of the women since you're done filming.
How are you feeling?
- You know, it's-- I think it's really good
that you guys are holding me accountable.
I need that. And while it is tough,
I'm happy that we are having these discussions.
- Clayton, in your defense-- and I want to speak
in your defense, like, honestly, I've dated toxicity.
I've been with toxicity before.
- Raise your hand if you have. - And it's hard as hell.
It's hard as hell to distinguish what's toxic
and what's really for you.
And I've been in that situation, and me and you have
had that conversation about dating narcissists, right?
Like, do I think Shanae's a narcissist?
That's not-- that's not for me to say.
You know, and at the end of the day,
I think that you're navigating dating 30 people.
I couldn't do that, honestly.
Hats off to you for navigating it
the best way that you could navigate it.
And that's-- and that's what my two cents.
- Okay.
Clayton, I know you had a very,
very special relationship with Serene.
A lot of amazing memories.
What's it feel like seeing Serene
back here for the first time?
- [sighs] Yeah.
I--you know, Serene, I--
I played back the way things ended
a lot of times in my head,
and it really crushed me with the question that you asked.
Right before we parted ways, you said,
"Was it because of what I said?"
And that made me sick to my stomach,
because I was holding back my emotions and my feelings
and expressing them towards the women,
including you.
And after you said that, I felt that it was almost
as if you felt maybe invalidated in that moment,
that, hey, I gave so much.
But I didn't give you that back.
And going forward, I-- I told myself,
I am no longer gonna hold back,
because I don't want that next woman questioning
what we have because I wasn't able to open up to them.
And so I really feel terrible, and I want to apologize
because I hope you don't close off going forward.
You did everything right. You did.
And I just wish that I would have opened up to you
instead of having you be the person to teach me that.
- Mm. - Thank you.
You know, I-I don't want you to be worried about me
putting my walls back up,
because I-I know that in order to get what I want
and find that person for me,
I have to keep being vulnerable.
But I do appreciate you saying that.
It does mean a lot.
- I have something I want to say.
I know you got a lot of criticism today,
most of which is really deserved, but, um...
[laughter] But for me actually,
watching it back, I saw and came to appreciate
a lot of your really good qualities.
And I actually found myself, like,
more and more attracted to you with each episode.
Um-- - Kira's down.
- So, you know, I don't know if you're engaged,
but if you're not, and you're single...
[laughter]
Just know I'm single too.
- Kira. - Kira.
Respect, Kira. - Wow.
[applause]
- I respect the boldness.
I respect the boldness for what it is.
- You will get bold here on "The Bachelor."
All right, we finally reached that point in the night,
so why don't we just lighten up the mood
a little bit with a little laughter.
You want to do that? - Let's do it.
- It's the best medicine. It's finally here.
You've been asking for this. We've got them for you.
Is everybody ready for blooper time?
[cheers and applause]
Let's go.
- Ooh, I love popping these.
Or do you want to do the honors?
- No, no. You can do it.
- Okay.
I've become a real pro at this.
And honestly... - Hm?
- This is gonna be actually fun--
Oh, my--
[both laughing] - I just unscrewed that...
Whew, good thing I had that facing away.
Could have been terrible.
- Like, that was strong too. - That one was.
Normally it doesn't do that when I pull it off.
- Tell me what you think. Oh--damn.
- [muffled] - Why are you biting so hard?
- Okay... - Oh...oh--
[laughing] - That was gross. Cut that out.
Oh. What's going on?
Oh--
[laughing] Oh, my gosh.
Okay--no.
- I'm from the marsh.
We got skeeters, we got roaches.
- Ooh-- - What?
- [screams]
- [gasps] - Oh!
- Did you see that? - [laughing]
- What is it? - A bug hit me.
[buzzing] - Oh--ooh.
[squealing]
I don't know.
Oh! What was that?
- Croatia's our fresh start. [buzzing]
Oh, my God.
Okay. I'm back.
[buzzing] [squeals] Ha ha!
- Don't fall in the water, Rachel.
- Clayton, I feel like the difference
between this paper and you
is that you're not all over me.
- Why is there so many rocks?
- I don't know! - Wearing my stilettos...
- Ooh. Ooh.
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
This is painful.
[light music]
- [coughing]
[laughter]
[metal crashes] - [shrieks]
- [laughs]
- Let's go. Let's go.
[both laughing]
[metal crashes]
[rumbling]
[dishware clatters]
[glass shatters]
- [laughs]
- [gasps]
- It's done.
- There's so much fun stuff.
I know you guys have--
hey.
- Hello, ladies. - Hi.
- I'm the new Bachelor, um...
It's nice to be here with the knockoff Jesse.
[laughter]
But the good thing is I'm here
with two failed football players.
And, uh, here's hoping--
- Okay, it was fun.
[laughter]
[cheers and applause]
- Well, season after season, the bloopers,
they just never get old.
Russell wasn't wrong, by the way.
We are failed football players.
That is an absolute fact.
But you know, as dramatic as this season was,
we also did really have our share of laughs.
- Yeah, well, Jesse, man, I can't thank you enough.
I think you were the perfect person
for me to navigate this with.
You were just always there for me when I needed it
and I was able to confide in you.
And so I just wanna tell you personally,
thank you so much. - I appreciate that, man.
- You've done an incredible job.
- Thank you.
- And when it comes to being the Bachelor,
I mean, you know a thing or two.
You went through it yourself, so...
- I did.
- I think it'd be great if we actually took a look
and rolled that back a little bit.
- Wait, what?
- Let's roll the tapes. [cheers and applause]
- What's going on right now?
[dramatic music]
- Whoo-hoo!
- Oh, my God.
He's so hot.
- Hey. I'm Jesse.
This is such a critical moment in my life.
Hey.
- Hello. La la la la la.
- One of these women may be
the woman I spend the rest of my life with.
And I am so into all of these women.
It is way harder than I ever imagined it could be,
but I'm just gonna speak from my soul.
- Are you having fun?
- Oh, I'm--I'm--oh, yeah, I'm-- I'm--yeah.
I just--it's important for-- I--it's just--
t-this--especially, I've never--
this is--th--you know. - Right.
[chewing loudly]
- [muffled] Especially with football championships,
[muttering] national championships.
We won three times in a row. - Yeah.
- Hi. I'm--I'm--I'm--
Yeah. I'm--I'm--uh--
- [chuckles] - I'm...
- You can say it.
[laughter]
- Katie.
Oh, no!
I made a terrible mistake.
That wasn't the girl I wanted to give it to.
I forgot her name.
That rose was for Karen. I said "Katie."
Like an idiot.
I made a mistake. I gotta fix it.
Katie, I accidentally called out the wrong name.
[audience exclaims]
That rose was intended for Karen.
[audience exclaims]
Oh, God. That was bad.
[cheers and applause]
Look at that face.
Oh!
I'm, uh... [laughs]
I'm never gonna live that down.
I am never gonna live that down.
Thank you for taking me down memory lane.
When we come back-- glad that's over--
we've got an exclusive sneak peek
at the dramatic conclusion to Clayton's journey.
So how does it end?
Well, listen, I was there, and I still have no idea.
That's right, it is that insane.
I'm sorry, dude, but it's true.
Bachelor Nation, you gotta put down the wine glass,
take a seat, and buckle in,
because what you will see is absolutely
going to blow you away.
Stick around.
[cheers and applause]
[upbeat music]
- Welcome back to what has been
a very intense "Women Tell All."
Clayton, I wanna thank you for being here again
and for facing a lot of these tough questions.
But you're not in the clear just yet.
I do wanna fast forward to what we're gonna see
coming up here in the finale.
You fell in love with three women:
Rachel, Gabby, and Susie.
Did you ever think that you were gonna
end up in a situation like that
when your journey as the Bachelor started?
- No. I remember when I came in,
I said, "Absolutely not.
"I'm not gonna fall in love with multiple people.
That's a recipe for disaster."
And then when I started to
allow my emotions to come out, I did.
I fell for all three, and it just happened.
- You've been very open... - I do wanna say...
- And honest about--
- Just really quickly, you know,
speaking on the fact that you fell in love with three women,
you know, you obviously know that we are all very close.
All of us women are very close.
And a few of us have been able to hear about what goes down
and how messy it gets.
And I wanna know exactly, you know,
who are you to act a certain way
and treat these women a certain way
and subject them to this kind of behavior of yours?
Like, what did they do to deserve it?
- Again, I couldn't prep for it.
I just had to go into it
and react the way that I thought was appropriate.
And I understand, again, that what I did...
I think it's important for me, again, to learn from it
and I am learning from it.
But it was with no bad intentions.
And I had to let my emotions come out and that's--
unfortunately, it wasn't as straightforward as I had hoped.
- Um, I am in a unique position
where I do know a lot of things,
so I think I'll just leave it at
I hope that you're...okay.
- Yeah.
- All right, we covered a lot tonight.
Clayton, again, I wanna thank you for being here.
Let's hear it for Clayton, everybody.
[cheers and applause]
For our amazing cast of women.
[cheers and applause]
And also our awesome studio audience.
Thank you so much.
Don't forget, it all starts tomorrow night
as Clayton's journey continues in Iceland.
Then next week, it's the epic two-night live finale.
How's it all gonna end?
Still don't know.
But yes, we have that exclusive sneak peek.
Let's take a look.
[quiet music]
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- I'm falling in love with all three of these women.
I mean, that's scary.
But it's also, like, really exciting.
[dramatic music]
[both laugh]
- I'm so all-in with Clayton.
I can see myself having a family with him.
Oh, my God. This is so cool!
- When I'm with Susie, I feel like
I really have found something truly special.
It's no longer about me falling in love with you.
Like, I am in love with you.
- Clayton truly sees me like no one else ever has.
Oh, my gosh.
He's so kind. He makes me laugh.
- This flight's one of a kind.
Rachel has changed my outlook
on how a relationship should be.
- I love you!
- I love you too, Rachel!
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- Hi.
[screams]
I can see myself with Clayton
for the rest of my life.
Whenever I'm with him, like, it's easy and it feels right.
- You know, I'm falling in love with you.
- Oh. Thank you.
- I'm in love with each of them.
This was one of my biggest fears.
Like, I just don't wanna hurt anybody.
And I'm going to.
[dramatic beat]
What I'm about to say is not gonna be easy to hear,
but I wanna be fully transparent.
I am in love with each of you.
And I also was intimate with both of you.
- [crying]
I'm just so in love with him.
He told me he was falling in love with me.
- I feel like I can't breathe.
- I never thought he could be in love with three of us.
In love.
- I don't know what to do.
- I had no idea this is what was gonna happen.
- Don't blame me. Look at yourself.
- I'm not blaming you. - But you are.
You're grasping at straws.
- [sobs]
I shouldn't have to ask my future husband
to not sleep with somebody else.
- I can't believe anything you say.
Not one thing.
This is, like, the worst feeling I've ever had.
[sobs]
- This is exactly what I was afraid of.
How can I go forward?
I don't believe in anything anymore.
I'm so broken.
[dramatic music]
- And it all starts tomorrow night.
- I think we have a great group of women.
I mean, you guys are amazing
and I'm just so happy. - Yeah.
- It's definitely gonna be a good night.
[low grunting]
[plucky music]
Like, look around you, ladies. - Yeah.
- Nothing's gonna rain on our parade.
[scuttling]
Y'all, look at that damn muskrat over there.
- Look at that thing!
- Please don't.
- [laughs] - Oh, my God.
- [gasps] - Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
- Holy-- - [laughs]
- It's a possum!
[all scream]
[laughter] - [screams]
[chatter, laughter]
- Ugh. [laughter]
- Ahh! - Get Shanae!
- Go get Shanae! Bring her back to us!
- I thought it was legit Shanae.
But it was. [laughter]
- I though the roach was back.
- That was a possum. A possum.
- No, that was an armadillo.
[laughter]
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