‐ Hello, and welcome to
"Can I Steal You For A Second," The Ringer's guide
to Colton Underwood's season of "The Bachelor."
I'm Lauren Zima, joined by the Bachelorette
who always has opinions, Rachel Lindsay.
[laughter]
He was known as the perfect ten.
Ben Higgins.
And The Ringer's foremost
Bachelor Nation expert, Juliet Litman.
Let's give ourselves a round of applause.
‐ Sure. ‐ Everybody's here.
A round of applause for ourselves, for Colton‐‐
guys, we have a full breakdown of this season's "Bachelor"
just ahead of the finale, so let's get to it.
I love this idea that you came up with, Juliet.
We want to sum up the season in a tweet,
and we're each gonna read our own.
Rachel, kick us off.
‐ All right. This is what I had to say.
‐ [laughs] ‐ You hit all the points there.
‐ Yeah. ‐ You hit all the big...
‐ I'm describing all the bachelorettes,
for the most part. ‐ Ben, you got political.
‐ Of course I did, yeah. ‐ [laughs]
BEN: I said...
LAUREN: And you know what? Only this franchise could do it.
I completely agree with you. ‐ Thank you.
‐ Yes. Juliet?
‐ I said...
‐ A lot of women left. ‐ Yes.
‐ It did. It set a record, yes.
We're not scientific on that, but I believe it.
‐ I believe so as well.
‐ I went for a little bit of "Clueless" reference
because of how clueless Colton seems to be about sex.
[laughter] I said...
"That was way harsh, Tai," is what Cher said.
Was that way harsh of me?
I feel like that's how we're gonna remember this season,
like, "Oh, yeah, the virgin who jumped the fence,"
in the best way. ‐ Yeah, yeah.
‐ They're literally beat you over the head
with the fact that he's a virgin and there's a fence.
[laughter]
‐ I also wanna get some grades
from you guys on this season so far.
Factor in Colton as the Bachelor...
‐ Yeah. ‐ And the season overall.
Ben, let's start with you. What're you giving it?
‐ You know, it hasn't been the best season of all time,
but the last half‐‐incredible.
B+. ‐ B+, okay.
Good. Juliet?
‐ I think I'm going B+ as well.
I think it really picked up around‐‐
once they left America, when they got to Asia,
things got really good, and it's been exciting and fun,
and now we have a huge finale to look forward to,
so I'm going B+. ‐ Yes.
I think the contestants have been great‐‐
Demi a standout, Colton has given us tears,
we've gotten drama.
I don't know if I'm just coming off of Arie's season,
which was so horrible to me‐‐
Arie Luyendyk's season‐‐ but I'm going A‐.
I loved this season. I had so much fun watching it.
Rachel's shaking her head.
‐ Well, here we go. ‐ Rachel, okay.
‐ I gotta divide the season in half because I agree with you.
The second half of the season has been way better,
but the first half of the season?
A "D," a solid "D." ‐ Wow.
‐ Rachel, okay. ‐ Yeah, yeah.
I'm being nice 'cause I could've said F.
And the second half, I'm gonna go with an A‐.
‐ Wow, what a turnaround. ‐ Really took it up a notch.
And it's not‐‐ I wouldn't give it to Colton‐‐
it's the women. ‐ Yes.
The contestants are amazing.
‐ They've killed it for you. We had Arie.
Colton's come back strong. He's this all‐American guy.
The women are gorgeous and they have a lot to say.
Overall, good season? We all loved watching this?
‐ Absolutely. It was entertaining. ‐ Definitely.
‐ Let's move into, then,
how we are getting into the highlights.
So, we've broken the season up into three trimesters
'cause we're pregnant with the Colton Underwood baby face.
[laughter] We are getting into
our first trimester, the first three episodes,
as we look into the nine eps we have ahead of the finale.
Let's get right to it.
Take a look at the beginning.
CHRIS: Pulling up the driveway right now.
Colton, good luck.
‐ Thank you. ‐ Let the journey begin.
‐ So, I have not dated a virgin since I was 12.
‐ I am so nervous right now.
‐ It's okay. I am too. ‐ I have so many butterflies.
No, I literally have butterflies.
‐ Now that I've popped your cherry...
‐ [laughs] Oh, boy. ‐ We don't need
to talk about virginity anymore.
‐ Yeah, no more, huh? ‐ Can I take that?
‐ Yes. ‐ I just took your V card.
‐ We popped a cherry. We took a V card.
We had butterflies in a box,
which I was so glad they weren't real butterflies.
I was worried, like, a bunch of dead butterflies
were gonna fall out.
The question about the limo entrances is,
does it help to come in, like, weird or with a prop,
or is it better to just be normal,
but maybe forgettable in the beginning?
What do you guys think?
‐ I mean, I was always told if you're not, like,
that strong of a contestant,
that it's better to do something that
the lead can remember you by. ‐ Mm‐hmm.
I think‐‐when I look back on, like, Becca's season, right?
Garrett ended up with Becca, and they have
this great relationship, and he came in in a minivan,
which is one of my favorite entrances of all time.
‐ I liked it too. ‐ I don't love the props.
For me, I was just so excited to get past the intros.
I just wanted to get into the house,
start this thing, and get to know the women
because the show is getting‐‐ I just got nervous.
‐ But don't you feel like it breaks the ice a bit?
Like, if you're the lead, if you're nervous,
when you see people come out and do crazy things,
and they make you laugh, it loosens you up a bit.
‐ It does. ‐ I appreciate it.
‐ It humanizes the situation
where it doesn't feel like reality at all times‐‐
‐ Does it humanize the situation...
[laughing] 'Cause people are doing some crazy things.
‐ JoJo went out to you with a unicorn mask on, Ben.
‐ I forgot about that. ‐ She was special too.
‐ Juliet, what would your entrance be?
‐ Oh, no. [laughter]
I don't‐‐ I would be so awkward.
It would be unbearable, but I wouldn't need a prop
because otherwise, I would just be so weird.
I wouldn't know where to put my hands.
I would, like, wanna make eye contact.
You know, it'll get too intense.
It would go‐‐ it would go really poorly,
so I would just need something
probably related to "Romeo and Juliet."
It's the easiest thing. ‐ Would you wear a costume?
I feel like what you described, you'd wear a costume.
‐ You'd nail that.
Juliet, I would watch that in a second.
‐ If I was, like... [stammers]
I'm Juliet, and you're my Romeo?
‐ Yes. ‐ Ooh.
‐ I mean, I guess... ‐ We just figured it out.
We've got a panel of experts here.
‐ She's been thinking about that before.
[laughter]
‐ Let's check out more of these first couple episodes.
‐ [laughs] ‐ You got it.
[sirens wailing]
‐ So, I'm a wardrobe stylist,
but tonight, I'm the fashion police.
‐ I got you your favorite brand of underwear.
[both laugh]
‐ I love it. ‐ I had to do it.
‐ I'm Catherine. ‐ Catherine.
‐ I'm confident I'm gonna make the best impression on him.
Excuse me. I'm so sorry to interrupt.
Hi again. ‐ How are you?
Do you mind if I interrupt? ‐ Hi.
‐ Can I have another few moments with you?
‐ Can I steal you for a second?
Catherine came out and we kinda thought she was gonna
be the season's villain because of how many times‐‐
I mean, she set a record, maybe,
for the most times interrupting time.
Is there a right way to do that?
Is it awkward?
What's it like in real mansion life?
‐ I mean, let's put ourselves in a real‐life scenario.
‐ Okay, Ben. ‐ You're at a‐‐a park.
‐ [laughs]
‐ And there's somebody you wanna talk to.
And they're off to the side amongst a big crowd of people.
They're entertaining these people, right?
‐ Uh‐huh. ‐ They're juggling or something.
‐ What? You go to juggling parties? ‐ What party are you at?
‐ I love to juggle.
‐ Okay. ‐ I can't juggle.
Anyways, track with me for a second.
And you wanna talk to them.
How are you gonna interrupt a situation
to get their time?
You're gonna tap them on the shoulder and you're gonna say,
"Hey." ‐ [nasal voice] Hi.
[laughs] ‐ You're a nerd.
[laughter]
‐ "Hi, can I steal you for a second?
Can I interrupt you? I need to talk to you."
So, yeah. This is the best way to do it.
‐ Do you get any advice because
you're the lead and you're having to handle all that?
You're the contestant. You're new to all of this.
Whether you're a contestant or lead,
do producers give you some advice about night one,
because there's a lot to comprehend?
‐ No, I think it's more like, "enjoy it."
It's a super fun night. Everybody's nervous.
It's the first time, you know,
for some people, you're ever on camera.
For the lead, it's the first time you're holding this role.
You don't get any direction. Did you get it?
‐ Zero direction. ‐ Yeah.
‐ It was like, you're in a house.
You go to the mansion. You put your suit on.
It gets dark outside. You walk down.
Chris is standing there. "All right, here you go."
And the limo pulls up... ‐ It happens so quick.
‐ Yeah, no direction, no coaching.
‐ Okay, I don't know if I... ‐ I remember I was like,
"Wait, wait, right now? Right now?"
And he's like, "No, yeah, yeah. Here we go. First limo."
‐ Here we go, okay. I know. You were like,
"I'm gonna be the first one out of this limo too."
‐ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, "No, I sweat easily.
Like, "I can't‐‐I gotta be the first one out to meet Nick."
They were like, "Okay." ‐ Rachel was working it.
Okay, more scenes.
‐ Ladies, I'm sorry. You did not receive a rose.
Take a moment. Say your good‐byes.
‐ Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
‐ So, for most of my adult life,
I had a secret. I was a virgin.
‐ You wanna go chitchat?
‐ Yeah, let's go. ‐ Let's do it.
‐ Instantly, Demi grabs him again.
DEMI: I think that Colton will realize that
he needs a girl in his life who is more,
you know, bold and confident,
and to take a bit more of a dominant role.
‐ She took a dominant role.
Demi paddled Colton. She blindfolded him.
Juliet, how quickly did you fall for Demi,
and what do you love about her?
‐ Oh, so quickly. ‐ [laughs]
‐ Well, in her intro package in the first episode,
she does talk about how her mom is in prison.
So, right away,
she's different from everyone else and you're like,
"Oh, okay. She has a story."
And then she just becomes the go‐to sound bite
incredibly quickly, and if it weren't for her,
it would've been much more of a slog
through the first three episodes.
‐ Absolutely. We saw Demi versus Tracy.
We saw Demi versus Courtney.
In those beginning stages, how seriously are you guys,
as leads, taking the drama?
Like, are you wanting to hear about it?
Are you not wanting to hear about it?
Do you believe it, or is everybody crazy 'cause
they've moved into the mansion and this process is so bizarre?
‐ I think it's a big misconception that
we know about all of the drama that's going on in the house.
They truly do separate us,
and the only time we know that there is drama
is if you just happen to hear it in the house,
like if somebody's yelling like crazy,
or if somebody comes and tattles on the next person,
which I find the men to be quite more petty
than the women. ‐ Oh?
The men loved to tattle
and snitch on the other men.
‐ And I didn't hate it because early on,
you're trying to catch up,
and you're trying to understand the whole situation.
So, when somebody does come to you with,
"Oh, you know, these people aren't here for the right reasons,"
or, "This person's mean and they're, you know,
fighting in the house," it's good for us because
it gives us information that we wouldn't have and allows us
to make a fair judgment when it comes to rose ceremonies.
‐ And it allows you to talk about something
with people that you're not really that into.
That's what I did.
‐ You like the talking points, basically.
‐ Yeah, I was like, "Yeah, tell me about that again,
"'cause we don't have anything else to talk about.
You're going home tonight." [laughter]
‐ We had some super strong women.
We gotta see Hannah B. and Caelynn.
‐ So, I know it's your birthday.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ So, we are going to make a toast.
‐ [laughs] I can't do this.
CAELYNN: Hannah B. and I know each other,
and we're not necessarily the best of friends.
We were roommates at Miss USA.
She was not happy that I was first runner‐up.
She was mad she didn't place.
‐ I haven't kissed anyone before.
‐ You've never kissed anyone? ‐ No.
I know. ‐ Really?
‐ Yeah. It's so‐‐it's so different.
[dramatic music]
KATIE: Tonight is the second cocktail party.
It's the second rose ceremony,
and girls are on edge.
CHRIS: It's the final rose tonight.
‐ Tracy?
ANNIE: I don't feel like he got to know me.
I don't feel like I got to know him,
and that was my biggest fear, and it happened.
‐ Yeah, her biggest fear was realized.
We didn't get to know her. I don't know who that was...
[laughs] But her dress looked great.
Rachel, I wanna ask you.
How much thought, money, whatever,
did you put into the gowns and the outfits that you brought,
because older seasons, people will say, like,
"I just grabbed stuff out of my closest,"
and now it's, like, full glam.
‐ Yeah, I think I asked some producers, like,
"What am I supposed to do when it comes to wardrobe?"
And they just kinda said, "You have to provide it yourself."
So I thought, okay,
what's the most cost‐efficient way to do this?
I went to a store and I said, "Hey, I'm gonna be on a show.
"I can't tell you what it is, but I can feature your gowns.
I need about seven to eight."
And they said, "Okay." They just let me sign it.
I said, "I'll Instagram it." ‐ Yes.
‐ And I had great gowns for Nick's season.
‐ You did. ‐ It didn't cost a thing.
‐ We saw Hannah B. and Caelynn‐‐the beginnings there.
They had such an interesting relationship to me
because at the start of the season,
when fans are seeing it all go down,
everybody was Team Caelynn,
and then I think, later, things took a turn.
In the beginning, Juliet, where were you at?
‐ Definitely Team Caelynn
'cause I think the main difference was
you saw Caelynn talking to Colton about Hannah B.
You saw Hannah B. talking to other women about Caelynn.
And so, it was much easier to side with the one
who kind of wanted to have the conversation straight on,
and not, like, just talk about
the other women behind her back, basically.
‐ All right, so let's take one final look.
MALE ANNOUNCER: This is the story of Captain Colton.
[women cheering] HANNAH B: It's not easy to see
Caelynn continue moving forward with Colton.
And he needs to know tonight.
Basically, like, me and Caelynn‐‐
we were friends.
Like, we were roommates at Miss USA,
which is already, like, a really intense situation,
and I think we handle stress a lot differently.
‐ There's a beautiful monster inside of me,
and today, I'm gonna have to let it out.
‐ Okay. What?
‐ [roars softly]
[dramatic music]
‐ How did that growl happen? ‐ It's amazing.
‐ I was trying to drink during the whole growl.
‐ [laughs]
‐ Did a producer ask her to do that?
‐ I doubt it. ‐ [laughs] You doubt it?
‐ I think she‐‐ I think yes.
I think she did it on her own and they said,
"Actually, can you hold that for a little bit longer?"
That's what I think.
‐ I know from Olivia on my season,
she had the open‐mouth thing. ‐ Yeah.
‐ And that wasn't put on by the producers.
‐ No, that was her thing. ‐ Look, I'm glad.
It was good TV.
Ben, what were your thoughts on Caelynn versus Hannah,
because I kinda felt Hannah was more emotional.
Caelynn was more poised.
And this is maybe why it made it look like
Caelynn was the one to side with this in this argument.
We never really knew what they were arguing about.
‐ Yeah, so, I would look at it like‐‐
Caelynn was the one that was kinda in the background.
Hannah was talking about it a lot,
talking about it with women in the house,
and so we kinda felt‐‐ I felt like
she was instigating a situation that didn't really exist,
and so then, Caelynn was off to the side
almost feeling like the victim of this fight.
And so, I sided with Caelynn
because I thought Hannah was always talking about it,
wouldn't let it go, and that Caelynn was just
trying to move on with Colton the whole time,
which is why they were there.
‐ Rachel?
‐ I mean... [laughter]
‐ I definitely was‐‐ I'm like Juliet.
I was Team Caelynn in the beginning,
but that's just because I didn't think Hannah B.
articulated well
what the issue was or how she was feeling.
So, you kinda had no choice. It was like, "Okay, we get it."
Like, Caelynn sounds like she has the better argument.
‐ Guys, I was frustrated too
because it was very, "She said, she said."
We don't know what these issues were, really, with them,
pageant gate‐wise, and we were rehashing it all.
And that's what frustrated me.
I wanted Colton to ask for direct evidence.
Like, "What exactly happened here?"
Did you feel like you should've been more direct with them?
‐ 100%. As the Bachelor and Bachelorette,
one of the things that you have to do
is kinda lead this and guide this,
and the only information you're gonna get
is information you ask for,
unless somebody randomly comes to you,
but that's not really evidence you wanna take anyway.
So, you have to dig in.
When somebody comes to you wanting to tell you something,
like, sitting down and saying, "There's women here not for the right reasons,"
or "Hey, Caelynn and Hannah B. aren't getting along,"
ask follow‐up questions.
Say, "Why aren't you getting along?
"What is the backstory here?
"How do we resolve this
"so that your focus isn't on the fight,
but on the relationship with me?"
‐ We are here to dig in. More to come.
LAUREN: When you're trying to remember all the names,
what point in the season do you start really remembering?
‐ For me, it‐‐ I did word associations.
So, when somebody would come up in the limo and they would say,
"Hi, I'm Rachel, and I like sports."
I would, in my head, come up with a little song.
♪ Rachel likes sports, sports likes Rachel ♪
‐ [laughs] ‐ And then I would be able to
to associate those two things together.
So, we had something to talk about, and I knew her name.
‐ I love it. ‐ I have an important question.
Were you wearing a cool belt at the time?
[laughter] ‐ No belt.
No belt, just like‐‐ ‐ It was back in season.
‐ Okay, okay. ‐ Yeah, not yet.
It was fashionable. ‐ Rachel, could you?
‐ For me, I wasn't as skilled as Ben.
I definitely didn't have a system there.
I just‐‐ I would go with general terms.
"Hey, you. Hey, boo.
Hey, there." ‐ [laughs]
‐ And midway through the season,
named started to register for me.
But I never forgot a face. ‐ Can I ask you one‐‐
‐ I was like, "He belongs on my season."
[laughter] ‐ There's no way to prove that though.
We have to just take you on your word on that
because there's no way to fact check it or anything.
‐ No. ‐ When did you remember Bryan's name?
‐ So, the first night, I kept saying,
"Where's that guy who spoke to me in Spanish?
Bring him back." ALL: Mmm.
‐ That's‐‐I really couldn't remember his name at first.
‐ But you remembered that he was speaking to you...
‐ But after he kissed me, I remembered. ‐ Oh, okay.
Okay, and the rest is history. ‐ And I never forgot, yes.
‐ So, with each trimester,
we're gonna give some awards, some winners, some losers,
because that's what "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette's" about, right?
Winning, right? RACHEL: Yes.
LAUREN: Or, getting‐‐ RACHEL: Sure.
LAUREN: Yeah... [laughs]
First up, our winner of the first trimester‐‐
I think we can all agree. Demi.
‐ Demi. ‐ 100%.
‐ I mean, she is such a standout contestant to me,
checks all the boxes.
She gave us catchphrases. She gave us drama.
She gave us some sexuality.
She was kind of emotional
at different points throughout the season too.
Is there anything else that you would've wanted from Demi?
‐ She also gave us a lot of fighting.
‐ Yes. ‐ Very quickly.
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ Like, she was fighting with Tracy.
She ended up fighting with Courtney‐‐
just a lot of fighting back and forth.
I enjoyed it. ‐ Just all the fighting.
‐ [laughs] Yeah. ‐ Demi was great.
‐ Ben, how would you have reacted to Demi?
‐ I think I would've enjoyed just being around Demi.
Like, she's entertaining.
We've described her before in conversations as a pest,
but a very lovable pest,
like, somebody who sits next to you and you just laugh at
because they're always in on something.
‐ I mean, she gave Colton a massage.
‐ I'd like that. I would like that.
‐ She would've been my friend in the house, for sure.
‐ Yeah. ‐ I mean, if you remember,
I'm good friends with Corinne. ‐ Yeah.
Yeah, she's like a similar type of archetype.
‐ Corinne and Jason, a little less...
dirty on the catchphrases than Corinne.
‐ Yeah, totally. ‐ Yeah, not calling any body parts "platinum."
‐ You can also tell the other women liked Demi...
‐ Yes, they liked Demi. ‐ Quite a bit.
And I saw, like, on social media,
they all refer to her as a Polly Pocket,
which I just think is, like, pretty endearing.
‐ Oh, my God. That's what I used to call Kristina.
‐ Yeah. ‐ All right.
We're also giving a loser to this season,
and it was some of the women who Demi went head‐to‐head with.
The losers were women
who didn't consider 30 that old.
The age thing came up a lot this season, and we have a little clip.
[crowd shouting]
‐ Elyse and her performance‐‐ she got up there and she was
willing to admit that she was older in front of everybody.
I thought she was so brave for doing that.
I mean, there's no advantage to being an older woman here.
‐ What?
‐ How did we feel about this discussion?
Juliet has a lot of opinion. ‐ It's offensive.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
As someone over 30,
I don't think I would be at a huge disadvantage on this show,
but also, I've never been on,
so I can't really say, but you‐‐
Rachel, not to put you on the spot,
but you were over 30 when you were on. ‐ No.
I was the oldest person in the house when I was on the show,
and we've talked about this at great length, like... ‐ Yeah.
‐ When I was on the show, I knew I was gonna be the oldest one going in.
I thought I wouldn't get along. I thought I'd be so different from the women.
I didn't have the same experience,
but nobody "30‐shamed" me either, however you would say that.
‐ Sure. ‐ Nobody shamed me for being 31 at all...
[chuckles] 'Cause they knew better.
[laughter]
‐ Well, it became‐‐ Demi and Tracy went head‐to‐head about it,
later, Demi and Courtney.
And I actually got more frustrated at the women
who were in their thirties,
and who were calling themselves "the cougars den."
I was like, "Don't do that to yourself. No, no, no."
‐ Yeah, you don't need to take that on.
‐ And if the roles were reversed, if it was a...
26‐year‐old Bachelorette and a 30‐year‐old guy,
the jokes wouldn't have even been made.
It wouldn't have even been a thing.
So I was like, "Yeah, don't take that on."
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ It was a real double standard.
‐ All right, next up, a winner‐‐
the Miss USA competition. ‐ Oh, yes.
‐ Hannah, Caelynn‐‐ I mean,
had we all been talking about Miss USA before this?
I certainly had not. ‐ I was not.
I also learned that the rules for what state
you can represent might be loose because as we know,
Caelynn was from Virginia, but she was representing North Carolina.
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ Having not lived there for very long.
And I was like, "Oh, interesting." So, you could just move?
There's no, like, long‐term‐‐
you need to be there for a year or anything like that?
I wasn't sure how that worked.
‐ I actually think that's a thing people hop around.
Like, if they don't win in one city or one state,
they hop around to try to win.
‐ The Twittersphere has reminded us that
Hannah G. actually lost to Hannah B.
but she didn't become part of pageant gate.
It was never mentioned that she was also in the pageant.
‐ Oh, she was in pag‐‐ ‐ Yes.
‐ What the? ‐ [laughs]
‐ I'm just finding this out?
‐ But can we give kudos to casting?
Like, that's really good that‐‐
I don't know how they found all three of these women a part of the same pageant,
but I think that's pretty awesome 'cause that's a good
conversation piece, and obviously, part of the drama in the house.
‐ Did you believe when Hannah B. and Caelynn
said they had no idea the other was doing "The Bachelor"?
‐ No. ‐ No.
‐ [laughs] ‐ No.
You're sending it out to all your friends.
Those pageant girls are talking. "Oh, my gosh.
Hannah's going on "The Bachelorette"‐‐or, "Bachelor."
And I know one of them tells Caelynn,
and Caelynn says it back.
They all knew. They're hiding this.
Just be honest. ‐ That's what I'm saying.
Just say, "Yeah, I knew she was gonna be here, and I was ready for her."
‐ I gotta give the show credit because 23 seasons in,
a pageant gate storyline‐‐ who knew? Who knew?
‐ You'd think that would've happened sooner.
It's pretty amazing they're still finding new ways
to bring in, like, organic drama
they don't even have to fabricate.
‐ I know. ‐ It's pretty special. I admire it.
‐ It was very grounded in reality on the reality show this season.
‐ It's true.
‐ Another loser‐‐
oh, the woman who made all the sounds.
Onyeka.
‐ [whistles]
Colton, I heard you were drowning in some bitches.
‐ I was not a fan of Onyeka and the foghorns and the‐‐
it's like, don't say "drowning B's" one more time.
‐ Ugh. ‐ "Ugh." She's shaking her head.
‐ I‐‐for several reasons, she bothered me.
One, she's from Dallas.
‐ Oh. ‐ Oh.
‐ Two... ‐ You're personally offended.
‐ Two, she's a woman of color.
There aren't‐‐we don't have that much representation
on the show, so the fact that she kept saying,
you know, "drowning," and "B's" multiple times,
it was this‐‐ it was terrible the first time.
It was even worse the second time. ‐ Yeah.
‐ I guess, like, it just... [groans]
Just the representation of her just really bothered me.
‐ Well, and as much as pageant gate felt grounded in reality,
nothing Onyeka was doing felt real to me.
I'm like, it's all props‐based.
It's‐‐ you're using this one phrase
you've come up with over and over.
It got real tired real quick for me.
‐ And I think the‐‐like, the second rose ceremony,
she came with an air horn and was playing it,
and she was like, "Colton, are you feeling horny?"
And it's like, maybe the first night,
you can do the whole "drowning in bitches" thing‐‐
‐ I didn't even get that pun. That went right over my head.
‐ Well, my, like‐‐ has this worked‐‐
[stammers] I thought, has this worked for you before?
Is this what you do with other men outside of this?
You use props?
Like, why would you think that would work on the show?
‐ Clearly not. ‐ That's the best question.
That was what I was thinking is,
has this‐‐would this work with any guy or any girl?
Like, if I showed up to stage with, like‐‐
‐ No, you didn't bring a foghorn to a date, guys.
‐ No, that doesn't work. ‐ No.
‐ So, why does she think it's gonna work here?
‐ All right, next up,
we are giving a win to vlogging.
‐ Yes. ‐ The show introduced
vlogging this season.
Colton talking right to the camera,
which might've been an iPhone.
Rachel, you're already laughing at this.
I like when they try new things 23 seasons in.
You weren't a fan? ‐ Not likely.
[laughter] ‐ No.
‐ It just did‐‐it didn't seem‐‐ you didn't like it either?
‐ I didn't like‐‐ he looked exhausted
every time he was doing it. ‐ [laughs]
‐ I always felt like I was intrusive on his space.
He's in his bed, like, curled up in the covers.
I felt like I'm watching some, like, weird Instagram story.
‐ Well, and I thought I was gonna get, like,
an in‐depth analysis or maybe something‐‐
he was gonna tell us something new.
At one point he said, "Good morning. It's morning."
And I thought, "All right, let it go.
[laughter] Let it go."
‐ Let's bring it back a bit of a loser award.
Our Roughest Edit award goes to Tracy
because man, oh, man,
this woman‐‐ we've got a clip.
[woman laughs]
TRACY: I'm the oldest person in this house.
I'm not a child. ‐ [squeals]
‐ I know that I'm ready to be very serious with someone.
[cries]
‐ Oh, Tracy‐‐ the stylist with no style.
‐ Wrapping up our trimester awards here
for our first trimester, Best Date‐‐
we're giving to the Strongest Woman Competition‐‐
if you guys remember, they had to compete, you know,
for the strongest woman mentally, emotionally, physically.
I wanna ask you guys, though. What makes a good group date?
Because these are the beginning group dates,
and I feel like the group dates
are impossible to really connect with the lead on.
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ So hard.
I remember my very favorite group date
early on in the season.
There were some great ones in the end.
But when there's a bunch of women there,
it was the soccer date because what happened was,
there was a game that was played, so everybody was super tired.
They had a big day of exercise,
so in the cocktail party that night,
everybody was relaxed because they felt like their energy
had been, you know, blown out during the day.
And so, for me, that helped me as the Bachelor,
just to kind of... ‐ Have them be exhausted?
‐ Yeah. ‐ Have them be too tired to do anything...
‐ To talk to him...[laughs] ‐ But, like, be normal.
‐ To fight, yeah. ‐ Yeah.
‐ So, you wanna tire them out on a group date, is what you're saying.
‐ Which they would've done on the Strongest Woman. ‐ 100%.
‐ Rachel, is the cocktail party more important on the group date,
because on that Strongest Woman one,
we saw Colton and Cassie kinda, like,
make out against that glass window for the first time.
‐ Yeah.
Yeah, I would definitely say the cocktail party
is when you get to have more of that one‐on‐one time.
Like, the group date is just more about, like,
fun and letting loose, and allows you, as the lead,
to see the personality of the other contestants.
Like, I really, really enjoyed that.
I had a really‐‐a lot of good group dates in LA.
I mean, Mila and Ashton came in,
but my favorite, I have to say, was Kareem Abdul‐Jabbar
because I'm a huge sports fan, and he was so shady, like,
talking about, like, the guys and them playing basketball,
so I was like, "I don't even have to be shady.
I can just sit back and listen to Kareem."
‐ [laughs] ‐ That's really cool.
‐ We are also giving a Worst Date award,
and I think we can all predict
who's gonna get this from the first trimester‐‐
Hannah B.'s non‐toast toast.
Take a look. ‐ [laughs]
I can't do this.
Let's make a toast to‐‐ first, it's my birthday, so...
‐ Happy birthday. ‐ To this amazing day.
And, um...
yeah... [laughs]
‐ Cheers. ‐ Roll Tide.
‐ [laughs] When in doubt.
‐ I never knew she said, "Roll Tide."
‐ Roll Tide. ‐ Roll Tide.
‐ Also, coming on the heels... ‐ "Cheers to my birthday."
‐ Alabama, I believe, had just lost too,
so it's like, is that a win for them?
I mean, I don't know. This was a couple weeks after.
Very tough‐‐ tough time for the Roll Tide.
‐ I mean, she said,
"[southern accent] You took my words." And I was like,
what words did he take? [laughs]
I've never seen someone
struggle so much to make a toast.
Did you guys come‐‐'cause people have actually told me
that they have come onto the show prepared with toasts
because they knew they'd have to do it a bunch. ‐ No.
‐ No, you're not‐‐ you guys aren't those types. ‐ You didn't do that, did you?
‐ No, but I mean, it's weird with her
because she wasn't even nervous.
Like, this has been after some time with Colton.
They were just talking at this point,
Like, nervous and probably didn't plan this.
She just literally couldn't find the words to say‐‐
‐ Okay, in her defense... ‐ Yeah.
‐ I'm not a person who gets that nervous either,
but I will say, on my first one‐on‐one,
I was very, very nervous.
‐ The whole time? ‐ And I was‐‐yes.
I was because I kept thinking, this is my one chance.
And it has to get‐‐I have to say all the right things,
and do the right things, and he's analyzing how I'm acting.
I really felt like I was not myself on my first one‐on‐one‐‐
I mean, except when I was dancing in the street,
but other than that... [laughter]
‐ I was on your first one‐on‐one with you. [laughs] ‐ You were there.
But when it came to talk‐‐ but I felt Hannah B. in this moment
because it is‐‐ you're on the spot.
‐ How hard is it to have the first one‐on‐one,
'cause we're in the first trimester.
That's what Hannah has‐‐ the first one‐on‐one,
and she had to get a swimsuit on.
It's in a hot tub. That was rough to me a little bit.
‐ It's a lot of pressure.
And it's the date you're gonna remember, right?
I remember my first one‐on‐one,
and I couldn't name off the other one‐on‐ones,
but my very first one, I could still talk about to this day‐‐
Kevin Hart and the hot tub. ‐ Oh, yeah.
Another big hot tub moment. ‐ [laughs]
‐ The hot tub thing right up front,
when they just put it in a random location,
a lot of logistical questions, 'cause wasn't that
also in, like, a weird place?
Not, like, a normal hot tub environment?
‐ It was in hot tub store. ‐ Right, hot tub store.
That makes a little bit more sense.
‐ Oh, that was so gross... [laughs]
I just kept thinking about the water being stagnant in that store.
‐ Yeah.
‐ But yeah, the hot tubs are in the middle of nowhere.
I've heard that they're wood burning hot tubs
because how would you get electricity?
‐ They were‐‐no. Come on.
Who's telling you that? ‐ [laughs]
‐ I had a hot tub in the middle of nowhere
with Lauren Bushnell, and it was cold.
‐ Mmm. ‐ Because there was no electricity to it.
So, it was just, like, cold water
that you're sitting and acting like it's hot.
‐ That did not happen.
Bryan and I had a hot tub scene,
but it didn't make the cut. ‐ Oh.
‐ I don't think it was made for TV.
‐ [laughs] ‐ Oh!
‐ And it was in the middle of nowhere in Spain.
And it was very hot. I was in several hot tubs.
‐ Very hot for‐‐sounds like other reasons though, yeah.
[laughs] We were both there with that lame joke.
[laughter]
We are giving an MVP award
for the first trimester to, guys, Demi.
JULIET: Queen Demi. LAUREN: Who else would get it?
Juliet, can you just tell me why you love Demi?
‐ She was the whole first trimester.
Without her, we wouldn't have had the good sound bites.
We wouldn't had enough of anything.
She made it happen for us as viewers,
and I'm thankful. She's my MVP.
‐ We're thankful for Demi. ‐ Yeah.
‐ Yes. ‐ I love Demi.
‐ We've been talking about‐‐ you guys just mentioned
Kareem Abdul‐Jabbar, Kevin Hart.
And this kinda segue ways perfectly into our next game.
The celebrity and alumni cameos
happened on "The Bachelor" and "Bachelorette," and we love it.
We wanna play Fan, Fame, or Fortune?
And we're going to analyze why
these people have come on "The Bachelor" and "Bachelorette."
Is it because they love the show
and they thought it would be, you know,
just fun and funny, which is‐‐they're a fan.
Are they trying to extend their 15 minutes of fame?
Fame.
Or did they get paid a good amount,
and it's Fortune?
So, first off, we had a married couple.
Celebs Nick Offerman and Megan Mullally
went on Colton's season.
Why did they go? Fan, Fame, or Fortune?
‐ Gotta be 'cause they're fans,
They thought it'd be really funny.
‐ Do you think? ‐ I could just imagine them,
like, sitting at home watching the show together,
probably just thinking it'd be great to be on it,
and, like, making a phone call or something.
‐ Aren't you always shocked when you find out...
‐ Yes. ‐ This person watches the show?
‐ 100‐‐Clint Eastwood even had talked about the show, yes. ‐ What?
‐ Well, then, who else‐‐ you said‐‐he said Barack.
‐ Barack Obama? ‐ That's what Ben said.
‐ During my season, he‐‐ Barack Obama, during a speech,
there was roses on the table.
He goes, "I'm not here to pass out the roses like Ben did."
‐ What? ‐ I would've died.
‐ Can we find that later? ‐ [laughs]
‐ I hope so. You can try‐‐ ‐ That's incredible.
Good to know they get ABC in the White House, huh?
[laughter] Wow.
‐ All right, next up,
Billy Eichner went on the summer camp date with Colton.
To me, I'm also saying Fortune on that one.
Billy was pretty snippy on that date.
I didn't think he was loving being there,
but I could be wrong again.
‐ Who knows? There's, like, a‐‐
there's, like, a slight conspiracy theory with that one.
Maybe there's, like, some kind of corporate synergies
since it's an ABC show,
and he's in "The Lion King" this summer,
which is a Disney movie. ALL: Oh.
‐ That's just a conspiracy theory, perhaps,
but again, I recently read his Wikipedia page,
and I feel like he does a lot of self‐curation.
And perhaps part of that is showing up on "The Bachelor."
‐ Really? ‐ Yes.
‐ I didn't really know who he was, and so...
‐ "Billy on the Street." ‐ So, I didn't‐‐
he said a lot of bold things that‐‐that, I did‐‐
I immediately liked him afterwards.
Like, yeah, he's kinda out there. ‐ He's a funny guy.
‐ Yeah.
LAUREN: Terry Crews. Fan, Fame, or Fortune?
He and his wife went on the Strongest Woman date.
‐ Fortune. ‐ You think so?
‐ Yeah, I don't think they're fans of the show.
‐ It was really weird. Onyeka was so excited to see them.
She was, like‐‐ she said that he was, like‐‐
she loved "White Chicks," and he's in that.
‐ It's funny to me sometimes when the contestants
are heard saying, like,
"I couldn't believe I walked in and saw Richard Marx."
And I'm like, "Dude, there's no way you knew who Richard Marx was."
‐ No way. ‐ Like, you guys‐‐
you gotta retake those bites, right?
I mean, they have to have you say that to cameras
so they get a quick bite of that.
‐ They would say, "How excited were you to see Richard Marx?"
‐ Okay, I see. ‐ I was so excited...
[laughter] To see Richard Marx.
‐ That's how it goes.
‐ The alumni, I feel like, you know,
you guys have done this, made appearances on the show.
We had, in that live premiere,
I mean, we're naming Jared and Ashley here specifically,
but you were there with them. ‐ Yeah.
‐ Why do alumni go on the seasons?
‐ Well, I mean, I think it's‐‐ ‐ Do you guys get paid?
‐ No, no. ‐ [softly] You don't?
‐ No, I do not. ‐ Okay.
‐ But I think a lot of it... ‐ Yes.
[laughter] ‐ What the hell?
Ben, you gotta get a paycheck.
‐ Ring, ring, Mr. Agent.
No, the‐‐I do it because‐‐
Rach and I were talking a little bit ago.
There's still a lot of respect for the show.
It's done a lot of things for our lives, you know?
It's nice to go back and stay connected to the franchise.
And so, a lot of it is when I get asked,
and it's the right opportunity, the right place,
then I'll do it.
It just happened to be‐‐ I was already in Park City
filming a show at the time, and so it just worked out great
that they were there as well.
But I like to stay connected.
The show has a special place in my heart.
‐ I pick and choose.
I was very excited to be on Becca's season.
Like, I hated what happened to her.
I was rooting for her.
And so, when I was asked to be on her season,
I was super excited because I really wanted
to help her and I feel like she has a really genuine heart,
and I still think that. ‐ Yeah.
‐ So, I really wanted to be a part of her journey.
‐ The journey, well... ‐ I can't help but say it.
‐ One thing I've loved about the journey
has been all of Colton's
Egregious Acts of Shirtlessness, yes.
You came up with, Juliet,
nine minutes and 15 seconds of shirtlessness.
‐ Yes. ‐ What?
‐ Across nine episodes. ‐ Yes...[laughs]
‐ I got 20. ‐ And I believe there was
at least one or two where he's not shirtless at all,
so that means in some of them, he's super shirtless.
And I think, like,
at the Strongest Woman competition date,
he's, like, not wearing a shirt for all of the working out,
like, when they're getting ready,
but also just a lot of shower scenes...
‐ Yeah. ‐ Maybe the same shower scene over and over.
But a lot of Colton in the shower.
‐ A lot of Colton in the shower‐‐
I've been saying all season that I'm totally okay with it
because we got zero from Arie.
I think they were making up for lost time.
And I didn't need to see Arie shirtless,
but as a fan, I like some shirtlessness,
so I felt Colton had to double up.
‐ But I feel like‐‐ like you said,
you got 20 seconds. ‐ Yeah, very little.
‐ I don't remember Nick having a whole lot.
‐ Oh, Nick had a lot. ‐ I think he was shirtless right out of the gate.
‐ See? I was gonna say that they were playing into
the whole sexuality aspect when it comes to Colton, but...
‐ I think with Nick, they were playing him to the glow‐up.
Like, because Nick... ‐ Yes, definitely.
‐ He'd worked out. ‐ He's from Waukesha,
Nick from LA. There's a huge difference.
‐ Huge difference, yes. ‐ Yeah.
I have a question about the shirtlessness shower scenes though because‐‐
did anyone else feel like we were getting the same scene
over and over again, they were just repurposing it?
‐ Yeah. ‐ Yeah, so, do they‐‐
like, how many times did they film you taking a shower?
‐ Quite a bit, yeah. ‐ Oh, really? [laughs]
‐ Oh, yeah. There's this weird‐‐
‐ Why isn't there soap?
‐ Well... ‐ [laughs]
‐ Good point.
The weird part is‐‐ and this is how it works‐‐
is you're in your hotel room, wherever you're at,
and there's a camera, and this guy,
and you have to be like, "I'm sorry that you have to do this."
And you get in the shower, and he stands there,
and, like, gets the angles that you need
while you shower, and you're showering sometimes
literally to go get dressed and go to a cocktail party.
Like, these are legit showers,
and you have somebody standing outside doing it.
‐ Wait, are you totally naked?
‐ Uh, not every time. ‐ [laughs]
‐ Not every time, whoa.
I just felt like they were trying
to make us feel like Colton's sexy.
I feel like they were trying to‐‐
that's why we kept seeing it so much with him.
Yes, he's sexy.
Yes, he's a virgin, and he can still be sexy.
That's the message that I was getting
every single time we saw him in the shower.
‐ I thought a lot of it was 'cause he just loves to work out.
Like, we do see him doing, like‐‐
‐ More than showering. ‐ Like he would‐‐yeah.
He would, like, wake up and go for a run.
I just feel like he just enjoyed
being without his shirt for, like, activities.
‐ I have got some behind‐the‐scenes news.
‐ Oh, wow, oh, wow. ‐ Wow.
‐ From the man himself, Colton Underwood.
He would‐‐ and you'll respect this‐‐
he would wake up an hour before every date
just to work out... ‐ Mm.
‐ And the show allowed him.
They would've allowed me. I never did it.
Like, you had to wake up sometimes at 7:00 a. m.
so at 6:00, he would make himself, every day,
wake up just so he could work out for the date ahead,
or he said he would get in his own head.
So, yeah, he was working out a lot.
‐ Athletes are, like, a slightly different breed.
Like, they just, like, you‐‐ it's part of your‐‐
the rhythm of your life, is that you need to work out,
and, like, have your cardio, lift weights, whatever.
And I do think that explains it to certain extent.
‐ Well, I mean, we've got a look at it,
so let's just look at Colton shirtless.
Wow. RACHEL: All nine minutes?
LAUREN: We don't have all nine minutes.
JULIET: Just a few seconds. See? He's in the gym.
LAUREN: Ben, did you work out before your "Bachelor"?
BEN: Oh, heck yeah, I did.
I still didn't look like this, but I worked out so hard‐‐ so many push‐ups.
‐ I definitely see the change in his body throughout the season.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Like, you can tell he was working out every day.
‐ That was a little bit much though. Did you see that last scene?
He walks away.
He looks at himself in the mirror like, "I look good"
and turned around.
JULIET: "Well, baby," like, what he saw.
RACHEL: Hell yeah. Ben you can't conv‐‐
I mean, I definitely feel like he requested
some of these shirtless scenes.
‐ "I'm looking good today. Make sure you get this."
‐ Yeah. ‐ [laughing]
‐ All right, well while we all, you know, fan ourselves
after being completely entranced by Colton shirtless,
we're gonna prepare ourselves for the second trimester.
ALL: Singapore!
BOTH: Three, two, one!
‐ [screams]
[dramatic music]
TAYSHIA: Colton and I have really good chemistry.
‐ Oh, maybe getting her whole body whiplashed.
It is the second trimester
of Colton Underwood season of "The Bachelor."
The next three episodes we go to Asia:
Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam.
We're gonna talk through all the big moments.
I want to start off there with Juliet,
something that I know concerns you, which is
Tayshia's bungee jumping form.
She could have really hurt herself.
‐ She does sort of like a jump into a pool that's not there
when she's jumping of a really high platform.
I was really worried for her while I was watching that,
and then when she finally falls over then jumps back up
that must have been so painful. RACHEL: Oh, my gosh.
When I saw it, I thought, "She wanted to die.
She wanted to die today."
‐ Tayshia and Colton's connection surprised me.
It came out of nowhere for me, and they felt so close.
And I wanted to ask you guys, when is the best time to have
a one‐on‐one in this season,
your first one‐on‐one of course,
because Hannah B. got that very first one.
We saw how awkward it was.
Tayshia and Colton really bonded on their one‐on‐one.
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ I'm gonna say week five.
‐ Specific, I like it. ‐ Yeah, week five, it's...
There's anticipation. RACHEL: Yeah.
There's this, like, mystery there.
You've had some experience with other women,
and the week five one‐on‐one feels new,
you know, because it's your first time together
but the best part‐‐and then I'll let you add in here‐‐
but the best part is you already know them
a little bit from the group dates.
‐ That's so true. ‐ So there's a comfort to it.
‐ Yeah, no, 100% I agree.
I was gonna say week five as well.
You always see the person as the first date that‐‐
or the first week date struggle
because it's such a long time,
so if you strategically are in the middle
then you might have another date
when you have a second one‐on‐one
during like week seven and then their hometowns.
It's so much better to be in the middle.
‐ Does it help to have a one‐on‐one
where you could possibly die
because you bond through that horrifying experience,
like bungee jumping? ‐ There's‐‐
‐ I‐‐go ahead. LAUREN: Rachel's nodding.
‐ There's definitely an adrenaline factor, right?
Like, you're experiencing like this huge rush together,
like excited together.
‐ I would have hated bungee jumping.
You would have seen me and like trying to be poised all season.
You would have seen me break down.
The idea that I'm jumping off of something
with cameras watching and a girl that I'm trying to impress
I would‐‐no, I can't do it. ‐ But there is something‐‐
Bryan and I repelled 187 feet
from the Olympic ski jump in Norway.
‐ That's cool. ‐ And there was something
about it when once we came‐‐we did it together.
It was a first, and you land,
and you're just like, "Wow, we did this thing
together," so‐‐ ‐ "We survived together."
‐ Yeah, and we survived together.
We were either gonna die or live together,
and there was something about it
that I think was a little romantic.
‐ You're engaged to that guy now. There you go.
For a first date, just nearly die with someone.
That's a good way to go. Back to our highlight reel.
TAYSHIA: And I think there is passion there.
This past year and a half has been kind of hard for me.
And it's actually because I was married
and I got a divorce.
DEMI: This week actually
my mom was released from federal prison.
COLTON: Demi, will you accept this rose?
DEMI: Of course.
‐ How are you? ‐ What the heck?
This is amazing. This is amazing.
[dynamic music]
‐ [exhales slowly]
‐ Oh. [laughs]
‐ Dang.
‐ Wow, that's beautiful. ‐ It's fun. I love it.
‐ You look amazing.
CASSIE: It's not easy when I see
someone that I'm dating now doing that to someone else.
It's like fine,
but I lo‐‐I am so happy for Caelynn,
like I‐‐[crying]
‐ Um, I don't want to talk about this long, but Courtney,
she is like the cancer of the house.
‐ If anyone isn't here for the right reasons, it is Demi.
‐ Ooh, okay.
"The cancer of the house."
I know Courtney had a big issue with her saying that.
It didn't bother me that much.
Juliet, where'd you land on it? ‐ It didn't bother me either.
It's like a saying. I mean, it's fine.
‐ Yeah, she didn't literally mean cancer.
‐ It's more annoying that she said that‐‐
Courtney herself‐‐ dropped "the right reasons."
That might have been the first one of the season I think.
LAUREN: Mm‐hmm. RACHEL: Yeah.
‐ It's like, "Come on, find a new phrase."
We're past the right reasons in the history of "The Bachelor."
‐ Well, I felt when we were watching Colton
talk to Courtney, you could tell.
Like, this one's going home. This isn't really working here.
As the lead, is there anything that you do
like to signal to producers
like, "I know I have to have this conversation,
but can you get me out of here in a minute?"
RACHEL: Mm‐hmm. ‐ Yeah, I think there was.
And they pretty much at this point‐‐
they become your best friends, right?
They're family to you. RACHEL: Yeah, they are.
‐ And so you‐‐they know where you're at all the time.
RACHEL: You didn't have an actual signal?
‐ Huh? No. ‐ Oh, I did.
LAUREN: What was it? ‐ It was this.
LAUREN: Oh.
‐ I don't think they would have listened to me.
‐ No, no, I told them.
They're like, "If you ever want to get out
"or you want somebody to like leave
"or us to send someone in,
do this," and so I did this.
‐ Like, I'm scratching my skin off.
‐ And sometimes I was like‐‐
"Do you see me? Help!"
‐ Do you think they leave‐‐let dates go
just for a minute to get that good TV you need?
‐ Yeah. ‐ 100% you need to.
‐ You sign up for that, right. I mean, it's okay.
‐ Yeah, you do. ‐ Juliet, you mentioned
"the right reasons" thing.
Are we still okay with the phrase "the right reasons"?
‐ No, I mean, I think
everyone's reasons are murky now.
Now that we know Barrack Obama is watching this show
I mean, you just reach such a big audience
that obviously there's other reasons to be on it.
I think even just having some Hannah G. on the show,
who was an Instagram model and influencer beforehand
just shows that, like, there's more of a reason
to do it than perhaps like only the pursuit of love
and like everyone comes into it knowing that now.
‐ I don't mind it.
Sean and Catherine Lowe are the icons of the franchise
'cause it's the one Bachelor married to the woman
he proposed to, and they've both said
they went on the show to travel.
‐ Yeah. ‐ So I'm like, they traveled
right into each other's arms, great.
Back to our second trimester.
[glass clinging]
CHRIS: It is time for the rose ceremony.
Courtney, Tracy, I'm sorry.
Take a moment. Say your good‐byes.
DEMI: Dr. Demi cut out the cancer.
HEATHER: If there was ever to be a time I was gonna kiss him
someone like this, this is the setting.
‐ It's amazing.
[fireworks booming]
‐ I can't call Chris Harrison
and say I want every one‐on‐one for the next year.
I literally can't accept a proposal after a few months
of sharing your time and attention with other people.
I can't do it.
COLTON: Right now I am insanely attracted to Cassie.
‐ None of it made sense, right? RACHEL: No.
She's a basket case.
‐ You're describing the show, Elyse.
That's the premise of the show.
That you went on to date someone
while they were dating other people.
‐ And she probably just cracked, right?
Like, I assume the pressure gets to you,
and you sort of can't handle it anymore.
And you just say, "Okay, I'm out. Got to go."
‐ We ended that clip with Cassie and Colton
on, what I call, their fire festival date
because they were on just a sandbar with nothing
and all they did was make out with each other in the water.
And, Ben, I have a very personal question for you.
BEN: Oh, great.
‐ This is something I've been thinking about.
Maybe for men or for women,
are there benefits to making out in the water?
Can you hide things when you make out in the water,
how excited you might get?
‐ Are‐‐like your erections?
LAUREN: You've nailed it, Ben. You've nailed it.
‐ Okay, just want to make sure we were on the same page.
RACHEL: He just went there. He just went for it.
‐ I didn't want to answer a question I wasn't being asked.
[laughter]
There are huge benefits...
to being in the water.
[laughter]
‐ So this happened for you.
‐ It has happened, yeah. ‐ Okay.
‐ But let's all see here, right,
I'm the only man on this panel. ‐ Sure.
LAUREN: Thank you for taking this on.
‐ Yeah, I'll take this one on.
It's natural. It happens, right?
You're not gonna hide it. Everybody knows it.
And you're on this show for almost three months,
and there's 26 plus beautiful people that you're kissing
and around and there isn't any alone time.
And so things are gonna happen, as a man, that you cannot stop
nor do you actually want it to stop sometimes.
‐ It sounds quite normal to me. ‐ Yeah.
‐ Very healthy and very normal.
And so this is what happens though.
So there's so much to this. I'm very passionate about this.
‐ [laughs] Oh. ‐ Because‐‐there's two reasons.
One is, you get used to
everybody that's on camera, everybody in production‐‐
there's 50 to 100 people there‐‐
seeing you doing this, right?
It's very clear what they're watching.
The second part is, it happened to me once in a waterfall.
And... LAUREN: In a waterfall.
‐ And I realized it was happening, but it was
very far down the season. I was okay with it.
I had given up all, you know, sense of embarrassment from it.
And it becomes the promo picture for my season
So when you do the commercials, "Hey, 'The Bachelor's coming,"
that picture of me, you know,
fully erect is the promo picture.
‐ Is that why they called you "Perfect Ben"?
‐ Uh... I hope so.
[laughter]
But the‐‐ RACHEL: Ben!
‐ To close up, to hide it, I mean you do what you do
in everyday life, you tuck it, you‐‐
[laughter]
‐ I'm so glad you just said, "To close up."
Like, "In closing on my TED Talk..."
On my Ben Talk, so, okay‐‐ RACHEL: So good.
‐ You know what, Ben, again you're with three women.
We don't know what you do.
[stammers] Okay. RACHEL: [laughs]
‐ You're really explaining a lot to us right now.
I genuinely appreciate it. ‐ Yes.
‐ It's the only reason I'm here.
‐ Do the guys talk about that in the house?
‐ You know, honestly, they don't.
I felt very alone and weird‐‐I actually remember
my first time as the Bachelor it happening,
and I went back to production,
and I said, "Like, what happens here?"
LAUREN: "Like are you gonna blur this?"
‐ Or like, "Are you okay with this or is this weird?
"Like, what do I do in this situation?
Like, how can I help you, help me, help the viewers?"
And they're like, "You just do what you would do.
Like, try to hide it,
and so you stand up, you move around, you...
‐ Do you talk to the woman about it?
Because you're both miked.
‐ No, you don't talk to them about it.
‐ Oh, okay. ‐ Yeah, I mean‐‐
RACHEL: Well, did a woman ever call you out?
JULIET: Yeah, do they acknowledge it?
‐ I don't think so. No.
‐ Did you ever do that Rachel? ‐ Yeah, with Bryan.
‐ Oh, wow. ‐ You did? What'd you say?
‐ I see it.
[laughter]
But we had a phrase‐‐like, can I say the word "vagina"?
JULIET: Yes. ‐ Okay.
We had a phrase in the hou‐‐that's why I asked you
did y'all talk about it because what we would say is,
did he make your vagina dance?
That was like the phrase that we would use, and so‐‐
‐ That's like a hidden code? ‐ Yeah.
‐ I think‐‐ LAUREN: Like, are you having
reaction? ‐ Yeah, yeah.
‐ Are you feeling it? ‐ That was the phrase we used.
‐ That's why I asked you if you said that.
‐ Interesting. ‐ But that's like a phrase
that's like out there too, yeah.
‐ Yeah, that was our thing. ‐ Yeah.
‐ It is one of the most difficult,
one of the most captivating, confusing scenarios
that happens as the Bachelor because it's gonna happen
and I feel like with Colton,
it shocked him. ‐ You know,
Ben, I've gotta‐‐we've got one more moment
where it might have happened, so let's go back to the clips.
RACHEL: Did it? ‐ Nicole...
said that she's hear so she can find opportunity
to leave Miami.
‐ Well, that's awkward 'cause I was actually there
for that conversation and Nicole never said any of that.
COLTON: I just need time real quick.
CHRIS: Onyeka and Nicole, I'm sorry.
Take a moment. Say your good‐byes.
ALL: Good morning, Vietnam!
HANNAH G: If I get the chance to
have an overnight with Colton,
then I will definitely take advantage of it.
‐ What the... ? ‐ Well... well,
[laughs]
he was facing away from the camera in that moment.
That's maybe an easy trick to just face away
from the camera, yeah. ‐ Oh, sure. Okay.
So we don't know what happened with Colton there,
whether he was tucking it or not.
BEN: Mm‐hmm. RACHEL: [laughs]
‐ But it is interesting to me 'cause‐‐I don't know‐‐
tell me if you guys actually dance when you watched
Colton and Hannah G. make out 'cause I was not feeling it.
I feel like I was watching two kids
learn how to make out for the first time.
‐ Like Heather and Colton basically?
‐ Heather‐‐yeah, yeah, uh‐huh. ‐ Very similar.
‐ I think it was
just like a much steamier date
than we're used to seeing, like, in general,
and also it was an extended shower scene
earlier in the season than we usually get.
Like, I feel like your waterfall scene
came a lot later, didn't it?
‐ Yeah, it was like one of the last two weeks.
‐ Yeah, we're still in the second trimester here,
so that was like kind of like, timeline wise,
surprising that it happened sooner, basically.
‐ Okay. Well I think that was also the date when Colton
said of Hannah that he was gonna eat that sushi roll.
That was another line I felt‐‐ RACHEL: What?
‐ Yes, he said that. RACHEL: I missed that.
LAUREN: That was a line I felt was given to him.
JULIET: Yeah. LAUREN: I'm just saying.
I don't think Colton came up with that.
‐ Ew.
‐ Why'd he call it a sushi roll?
‐ I don't want to know. ‐ I actually disagree.
‐ You don't think so? ‐ No, because he's really
into sushi, the one thing he talked about,
like, this whole time.
Like, his kind of like non‐American food that he likes
is sushi. LAUREN: Was sushi.
All right. ‐ It was recurring.
I bet he thought that was like a cute or hot thing to say.
‐ He didn't even know the joke he was making.
RACHEL: I must have pressed fast forward.
‐ Let's finish our second trimester.
‐ A lot of the girls are just like really‐‐
‐ Pretty and nice and fun
and that's what he's‐‐ TAYSHIA: Shiny objects.
SYDNEY: Yeah, shiny objects.
Because of that, I am gonna go home today.
‐ Hi! ‐ How are you doing?
‐ Good. Yay! ‐ Me too.
DEMI: That was fun. Yay. ‐ Good.
I don't know right now if I can see myself
with you at the end of this.
[wind blowing harshly]
‐ Here. ‐ Don't worry about it.
It's okay.
You have a great group of girls.
And you know who's ready in there.
And there's some that aren't.
[tense music]
‐ [groans] This was when the season
really took a turn for me,
Sydney self‐exiting, Katie leaving with the warning,
Demi getting sent home out of nowhere,
which was a bit of a bummer.
How did you guys feel about all the self‐exits?
‐ I kind of loved it. ‐ Me too.
‐ But why are you calling it a self‐exit?
‐ Colton got dumped. I mean‐‐ RACHEL: Bye!
‐ Let's call it what it is.
I really liked it. I also‐‐
Katie was, like, pivotal 'cause she kind of like
really‐‐first of all, I love it when the women
won't allow the guy to, like, walk them out
to, like, make him feel better when she's like, "No, I'm okay.
I don't need you to protect me from the rain."
I love that. It's like, yeah.
It's like‐‐it's like, "You just sent me home.
I don't need you to take care of me.
Like, please back up." ‐ Yeah.
‐ And he didn't take off his full coat.
‐ I know! ‐ Like fully cover.
He's like‐‐brings up the flap. ‐ Take it off, Colton.
‐ Like, put your coat back down.
Like, go back inside.
‐ And they all left with these warnings
that Colton didn't follow up on.
He didn't say, "Who are you talking about?
Which gave us so much drama for the rest of the season.
So I was kind of like glad Colton
didn't ask any questions.
‐ Which he should have. BOTH: Yeah.
‐ That was one of‐‐ my biggest critique of Colton
has been that he didn't ask enough follow‐up questions.
He didn't dig in enough on the stories
and the women and the situations around him.
He had‐‐I mean, women are begging him,
literally every week, "I want to tell you
what is happening in the house,"
and he would say, "Oh.
Okay, I'm gonna go talk to the other women."
Like, just ask, like, who is it, why are they doing it?
‐ I think he know or he knows or maybe he has an inkling
into who it is and he doesn't want
to find out for sure.
‐ That it's Cassie and Caelynn. ‐ Yeah.
‐ He didn't want to face the truth.
BOTH: Yeah. ‐ He obviously has a hard time
with conflict and, like, a weird approach to it
'cause if you recall there's a fight between
Onyeka and Nicole and he just goes, as they're fighting,
he just goes and sits down next to them,
and he's just like, "Okay, I'm just gonna take this in."
And, like, he doesn't try to mediate,
doesn't like ask questions.
He just sort of like is like observing or like, um,
just kind of letting it all sink in
and that's pretty weird.
Like, perhaps ask them some questions, like to your point.
‐ Well, next, the winners and losers of the second trimester.
‐ All right, it's our own little awards season
and we are getting into the winners and losers
of the second trimester,
starting things off with‐‐I think we obviously gotta give
a winner moment to Caelynn just for the story that she shared.
I love when a reality show actually gets real,
and Caelynn opening up about that sexual assault,
and the way that Colton responded to her,
I was really glad the show tackled the topic.
‐ I thought they handled it really well,
and it was given the right amount of time.
She was able to tell her whole story.
There didn't seem like there was any kind of,
like, creative editing.
There was, like, a lot of music beds.
It was like‐‐it was handled really well
in a way that made it possible to kind of like
keep watching the show and also root for Caelynn
and also like really commend her
and be impressed that she was able to be so eloquent
and go on the show like she did.
‐ And by the way, within these episodes,
Caelynn was also opening up to Colton about everything
and shutting down the drama with Hannah B.
Calling the truths.
Like, that was a really great moment from her
when she just pulled her in and said, "Hey, I don't want us
to be like this with each other on the show."
‐ Didn't you think that was weird though?
Like, all this build up about this drama
that they have had and this history,
and then she's like, "You know what,"
they sat down, they were like,
"Let's just squash it. Okay." And kept it moving.
‐ I felt... ‐ I was confused.
‐ That indicated to me that they had kind of moved on
in real life, and then being on the show and brought it back up
and then Caelynn said, "Seriously, let's just move
past this."
We never really got answers on what exactly it was though.
I'm like, "Did somebody hide somebody else's shoes?"
‐ I don't think it was anything.
LAUREN: Yeah, I think it was just...
‐ Yeah, just petty.
LAUREN: Pageant drama. All right.
We've got to give a loser award
to the woman whose run and jump moment
we all burst at laughing at earlier.
Kirpa. Poor Kirpa. RACHEL: [laughing]
It was pitiful.
‐ She made it way too far, didn't she?
What was she still doing here?
‐ I'm so happy we got to see her one‐on‐one
when she jumps into Colton's arms.
It's like‐‐it wasn't in slow motion,
but it felt like it was slow motion.
I can't imagine living it
or having to watch it back being Kirpa.
LAUREN: Ben, did you almost ever drop anybody?
‐ No, I‐‐we gotta get some footage of me
of somebody jumping into my arms.
I think Colton just kind of brings off this vibe of like,
"I'm gonna catch you," and I think I come off
this vibe like, "Uh..." ‐ Might not work out.
‐ It's that "Dirty Dancing" jump like‐‐
‐ Does he have it? ‐ "I don't know, I don't know.
He looks kinda strong, but also a little weak."
‐ He also looks so big because he is.
Like, he's a big dude. And she looked tiny.
Like, the proportions of it were really funny.
‐ Yeah, it was great. ‐ Visually
it just really worked. ‐ Yeah.
‐ But it just felt like Kirpa‐‐
we didn't know anything about her really.
That one‐on‐one felt like just two people
who would never again go on another date
and she was only around to keep that kind of drama
going with the other women, right?
‐ Basically. ‐ And to fill a quota.
‐ Good‐bye, Kirpa. [laughs]
We're giving a weird winner award
to zombies. Let's take a look at why.
‐ I think, like, if there was like a zombie apocalypse,
I think there's something in me that could like fight
‐ You know what is so funny is,
on the way to this date,
I was like, "Man, who would I want
if there was a zombie apocalypse."
‐ No way.
‐ Would we want Hannah Beast in the apocalypse?
What a weird compliment and thought that they both had.
‐ Do you think he just said that?
‐ Yeah. ‐ Do you think he really‐‐
like, I don't even understand
how I'm supposed to feel about his response.
I'm just confused, but I also really like it.
‐ I feel like I'm just confused.
Did‐‐I mean, I don't...
I don't want to call him a liar
but I don't believe that on the way there
he was in his mind going, "If there was a zombie...
‐ Exactly. ‐ "apocalypse,
"which one of these girls... ‐ Yeah.
‐ "is gonna be the one that I want beside me?"
Like, that doesn't‐‐I mean, maybe.
‐ It doesn't. You don't want to call him a liar, I will.
‐ But if it did, he should have proposed that moment, yep.
‐ Yeah. ‐ I like how you give Colton
a little bit of a Southern accent there.
[laughter]
‐ If they had ended up together,
that would be, like, a sweet moment.
It would be like him, like, indulging her and being like,
"Oh, you want to talk about the zombie apocalypse,
I'll get there with you," but it's just weird
'cause they're both two weirdos.
‐ It was weird. It was weird.
And we love the show 'cause it's weird.
‐ Yeah. ‐ The loser
of the second trimester is snitching
because we had a lot of those "let me tell you why
this girl's causing drama in the house" moments.
Onyeka talking to Colton about Nicole in particular.
Juliet, I know you've got a phrase you love for this.
‐ Snitches get stitches.
I didn't make it up. I can't take credit.
But it certainly applies here
'cause every snitch got sent home.
‐ Is there ever a way to win
going to the lead and talking about another person?
Does it ever pan out well?
Oh.
‐ It panned out well in Nick's season.
‐ Oh, well. ‐ It did!
I forgot about that.
What makes it work or not?
‐ I just think if the guy knows who he's gonna pick,
it doesn't matter what the lead‐‐
or not lead but the person he wants does.
‐ Right. ‐ You know?
As long as that's who he wants,
he's fixated on that person, nothing's gonna change,
and I think it depends when they decide
to reveal information like that.
Like, during my season it happened later.
Not mine‐‐Nick's season, it happened later on.
‐ I think there's a level, too, where if, as the Bachelor,
and somebody came to me that I was really into
and they were snitching,
I'd want to look at them and be like,
"It doesn't matter what's happening over there
in the house. I'm into you.
And so why waste your energy and your time
telling me, like, that I might get hurt by them
because in the end of this
I hope it's just you and I sitting here.
‐ But would it deter you from that person?
‐ Yeah, 'cause it would make me think
are they not into me enough
to just know that that stuff doesn't matter
because we have something that will rise far above it.
‐ And maybe that's why you were a better Bachelor than Nick.
JULIET: Oh, shots fired.
[laughter]
Shots fired.
‐ The Perfect Ben versus the Viall Files.
Anyway, um, so one more winner.
I love this so much.
Let's take a look at the concept of the statement dress.
‐ It was a good day.
It's just really comforting to know that he wants
to progress and move forward and...
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
SYDNEY: That is her statement dress.
‐ [laughing] ‐ I think it looks like...
‐ I think it looks fancy.
‐ Here's what I didn't understand.
If I'm gonna go leave, I know I'm about to get in a car
and probably ride a plane home, I'd be in my leggings,
like, "Dude, I gotta go and it's gonna be a journey for me,
so I'm gonna be as comfortable as possible."
She did her hair to leave. Why would she do that?
‐ I'm convinced that she thought
he was going to chase after her.
‐ Fight for her? ‐ Oh.
'Cause of their one‐on‐one, like it was so good.
'Cause they had that one‐on‐one back in the first trimester
where they go to the amusement park
in San Diego and it did seem like they had a connection.
‐ I liked her until that moment.
‐ I wanna ask you guys‐‐Elyse going to Colton in the night,
this happened a couple of times this season,
which I was glad to see 'cause I kinda feel like
we hadn't gotten a moment like that in a minute,
how does that work?
Can you go to the producer whenever, wherever
and say "I wanna go visit the lead"?
‐ I remember a scenario
where somebody on my season
came in when we were in the Bahamas
and it had been a long day.
It had been a group date, and I was exhausted.
And I had showered, and I was sitting on my couch,
and I had just turned on some sports
and I was kicked back and all of the sudden
my door opens to the condo I'm staying at
and here comes a camera guy and then here comes another
and I'm like, "Oh, no." ‐ [groans]
Who's coming? ‐ What's happening?
‐ And then nobody says anything to you.
Production's not even there.
They just start standing and they're f‐‐
And you know something's about to happen
so you start getting nervous
and anxious and you're looking around
then there's a knock at the door.
You open it up and there she was.
It was Leah and I sent her home that night.
‐ Oh, yeah. ‐ Ooh, yeah.
‐ And I wasn't expecting to, so it was kind of out of nowhere.
She came and expressed her feelings, and I was like,
"I'm not feeling this way. I need to let you go."
I have a comment about Elyse thought.
‐ Okay. ‐ So all this being said,
one of the behind‐the‐scenes of the show
is that at this point in the show
you're four or five weeks in. ‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ Right, and we know this.
You're only halfway through filming at that point.
So she's saying "I don't have enough time
and we haven't gotten to know each other yet.
What she needs to know is,
there is so much more time left to be had
Just stick this part out because the second half
of filming is like with four people.
So you get a ton of time together.
‐ And she had a one‐on‐one at this point.
That's what's insane. ‐ Never before have I seen
someone who truly did seem like
they had not seen the show before.
Like, Elyse, you're describing why you're here,
and saying that it's why you can't be here.
It was a little bizarre.
But we are going to get into best date award.
I am saying Hannah G.'s spa date
for many of the reasons that we discussed
with you earlier, Ben‐‐[laughs] ‐ Sure.
‐ Things got sexy, they got steamy,
they gave massages.
Are you guys feeling like this is awkward
or just totally comfortable for them at this point
with this date?
‐ I honestly‐‐I felt awkward watching it.
I think‐‐I'm watching two people
have a very intimate moment.
I was feeling all sorts of ways from my head to my toes.
‐ Oh. Whoa. ‐ Yeah.
‐ Wow. ‐ You know, it was a little‐‐
‐ Did you have to hide it or...?
[laughter]
‐ Am I the only one? ‐ Sorry, I couldn't...
‐ Am I the only one? ‐ I'm not going to lie.
‐ I fast‐forwarded it. ‐ You did?
Why? ‐ I don't know.
There's something awkward to me about it.
And we talked a little bit about this.
She looks so young and just... ‐ Yeah.
‐ Like, the way she climbed on Colton,
I don't know, I just didn't‐‐ ‐ I have never
been into the giving each other massages thing I either.
I don't know. ‐ Like ever or on the show?
‐ I don't think anybody does that in real life.
It's just for the show‐‐ ‐ I totally do it in real life.
‐ You? ‐ Yes.
‐ Wow, I'm not living right. ‐ Yeah.
‐ [laughing] ‐ We'll talk after the show.
‐ Yeah, that's a problem. ‐ Question for you guys.
Say that Hannah G. does not win this.
They have had crazy chemistry.
‐ Uh‐huh. ‐ A lot of make‐out sesh.
How do you explain that to the person you end up with
when they're watching you have these hookups on screen?
‐ I want to know what you think.
That's tough. ‐ I want to know what you think
because you and Peter had some moments.
‐ Yeah, we did. ‐ How did you and Bryan
talk about it later? ‐ We did.
So Bryan is a person who has to know
everything that happens
and so we watched everything but I told him before
the person I think is gonna be the hardest for you to watch
is Peter, so I prepped him for it,
we talked about every episode, he got his feelings out,
we communicated and we moved on,
but it doesn't mean that it wasn't easy.
It was hard. ‐ Yeah.
‐ How did you deal with it? ‐ It was really hard.
‐ Yeah. ‐ I mean, honestly it was hard
for the whole relationship.
‐ And I didn't help it by telling two women
"I love them," right? RACHEL: Yeah.
JULIET: No, you did not.
‐ Yeah, doesn't fix‐‐like help the problem.
But then you try to be upfront and forward.
Like, I remember the day after filming stopped
and Lauren and I were in Jamaica still
just hanging out, I woke her up and I said,
"Hey, I just want to talk to you about everything
that happened this season, so that you're aware."
RACHEL: Yep.
‐ And I thought that would help.
And it just‐‐I think when you watch it back
it gets even harder. ‐ It's family though.
Family's telling you, "Oh, my gosh, did you see this?"
How do you feel about that?" ‐ Yeah.
‐ Your friends are saying something and that's what‐‐
like, that's the part that you cannot prepare for.
‐ Really hard. ‐ It's tough.
So whoever he did pick
is definitely going through a hard time
watching the relationships they progress throughout the season.
‐ And the thing‐‐the whole Hannah G. date was, like,
really, like, steamy.
Like, I was like, "Is this erotica?"
Like, it was kind of‐‐like, it was just a lot.
‐ And the worst date of the second trimester
is going to Demi
calling her mom fresh out of lock up
to talk to Colton.
Weird, right? I don't know.
Would you guys be a little freaked out
if somebody did this?
‐ I was kind of indifferent about it.
It really didn't bother me.
‐ I think it's intimate. I like‐‐
I mean, I‐‐honestly, I kind of like it
'cause it felt like something you would do
in a normal relationship.
If you're going through a scenario,
your partner... JULIET: No.
LAUREN: It's a little unusual. JULIET: No.
‐ I thought it was intimate and nice.
‐ Yes, you would be involved in like the mom homecoming,
but, like, a phone call with someone you barely know
who've you'd had like accumulative, what, like,
90 minutes with? I don't know.
I think that's pretty weird. LAUREN: I have to say
what an introduction for her mom
back into normal society
to have a phone call with the Bachelor in Vietnam.
[laughs] I mean, good for her. I hope we meet her soon.
Last, our second trimester MVP award
goes to Katie,
another one to exit with a warning for Colton
and another time where he didn't ask her
who she was talking about.
That departure kind of set us up for the rest of the dramas,
so I thought Katie went big when she went home.
‐ She was confident. I like it.
I mean, she‐‐I love it.
I always think it's weird
when somebody leaves the show
and they're so complimentary still.
Like, "Oh, my gosh, just thanks for letting me be here."
It's like‐‐it's a breakup. RACHEL: Yeah.
‐ At any level to breakup, just get out and go.
We don't need to settle things.
Don't make the Bachelor feel better about himself
or the Bachelorette feel better about themselves.
They just broke up with you. It should hurt a little bit.
And if it doesn't, then just go home.
‐ Well then they really weren't into you.
‐ But I really liked it, and she also was poised
when she exited. There weren't any tears.
She got across what she needed to say.
And also she gave him, like, a directive, which I liked.
She was like, "Find them."
She wasn't like, "There's problems here."
She was like, "Go and do it."
She was motivating him into action,
which we've all been craving.
‐ Next up, the big finish, the third trimester.
‐ We got to give a shout‐out to the long‐time franchise host
Chris Harrison.
I just want to go through and say,
you know, each of our favorite "host with the most" moments.
Rachel, kick us off.
‐ Well, I like it when Chris is just a bit shady.
You know, he walked into the mansion
and he called Caelynn Hannah B. and Hannah B. Caelynn.
Messed up their names basically.
I loved it. It was a dig.
LAUREN: It's subtle. ‐ And I was here for it, yeah.
‐ Ben. ‐ I like that Chris
has only been on a little bit more than
Colton's been shirtless. ‐ Yeah.
‐ But my favorite‐‐and maybe the most iconic piece
of Chris Harrison ever is when Colton jumps the fence
Chris yells at him, "He jumped the effing fence."
And then pushes the button to open up the fence
so he can walk through.
‐ I think there might be unseen footage
of Chris trying to jump the fence
and, all my love, but I don't think he could do it.
[laughter]
‐ Chris and Colton had a really really awkward handshake
on the beach where they're both standing about 10 inches
from the ocean‐‐I don't know why they had to be so close‐‐
and they kind of like go up really high
for their handshake instead of a normal level
and it's so awkward and really fast
and I just loved it. It was fantastic.
‐ I loved, in the fence moment, that Chris
broke into the slowest jog possible to go after Colton.
Like, I know he can run faster than that.
I don't think he was at full speed
but he tried, and eventually we're gonna see what happens.
Next up, let's move into the‐‐oh, this season
took a turn for the extreme better
in the third trimester. Here's our highlight reel.
‐ I feel like Cassie and Caelynn
aren't genuine.
They're already talking about, you know,
being the next Bachelorette.
‐ How the [bleep] would Tayshia know if I'm ready or not?
‐ Be careful of that.
I trust your gut more than I would ever trust
the comments of anybody else.
‐ Ooh, so this is when we get into Caelynn Cassie
versus Tayshia and Kirpa.
It's the "she said, she said" which has caused
so much drama, and Colton's dad says trust your gut.
This late on in the show, how would you guys handle
conversations you were hearing about
but hadn't actually heard yourselves.
‐ I mean, I'm confrontational.
So I would just like‐‐ ‐ We know that about you.
‐ I would just, I mean‐‐ there's‐‐you‐‐
time is of the essence in this whole Bachelor bubble
that you're in and so I would have gone straight
to the person who is being talked about
I would have gone to Cassie and I would have Caelynn
and I would have flat out asked them
"What's the deal? This is what's being said.
Let me talk about it."
And then I would have followed by gut like the dad says.
‐ I think the problem is, like we've said before,
Colton didn't want to believe that Caelynn
or Cassie were shady.
‐ No, he'd already made his mind up.
And the men do that.
‐ Yeah, that's the problem.
I was gonna say that men seem to do that.
Cassie and Caelynn are talking about this behind his back.
He needs to figure this out now
and let his pride down enough to say
"They aren't here for the right reasons."
JULIET: Oh, nailed it. ‐ All right, more highlights.
‐ Going into hometowns, I can't
shake your father's hand and look him in the eye
and find out I have any doubts in our relationship.
I have concerns about Cassie and Caelynn
that they're just not ready.
‐ I don't even know how to like defend myself.
‐ [sighs]
CASSIE: There's no truth to it
so there's nothing I could be like explain.
‐ Right now, I just don't
think that it's fair to you
to take you to my hometown.
‐ They'd make a very cute couple.
‐ Has anyone ever exited so quickly?
Heather was barely on that group date.
She peaced out. JULIET: She blindsided‐‐
‐ She's like, "I got my kiss, and I'm done."
‐ She blindsided Colton like Colton blindsided Hannah B.
I don't think he saw it coming but, crucially,
did not seem upset.
He seemed relieved he didn't have to make a decision.
‐ When someone does leave, is there a little bit of relieve
where you're like, "You've made your feelings clear,
so I don't need to think about this anymore"?
‐ Yeah. Yeah. ‐ 100%.
Yes. ‐ 'Cause usually it's not
the person that you want at the very end
so you're just like, "One down, few more to go."
‐ And then we got this.
‐ Cassie, will you accept this rose?
‐ Oh.
COLTON: I am so excited because this week
I am going to hometowns.
‐ I want to show you around
some of my favorite spots. ‐ Yeah.
‐ That's where my pediatrician was.
‐ Nice. ‐ Do you wanna get married?
‐ I do.
‐ It sounds more like you could just be friends.
What's the difference?
HANNAH G: We are in Birmingham, Alabama right now
and I'm freaking out.
I'm also falling in love with you.
‐ And I'm falling in love with you too.
‐ So if he was to ask you to marry him right now,
you would say...
‐ I would say yes.
‐ Oh, my God. ‐ [laughs]
COLTON: Very early on,
Cassie's been one of my strongest relationships,
been somebody who I've been unbelievably attracted to.
I think my biggest question coming in today is,
where is she at in our relationship?
‐ Um... I don't know.
‐ You're 23. You got a life ahead of you.
And you don't have to rush into anything.
Right? It's not like you're buying a car.
COLTON: I wanted her to say,
"I'm falling in love with you" so bad.
‐ What do you want to have happen in the fantasy suite?
COLTON: If I feel like I'm in love?
CHRIS: Yeah.
‐ I could see it happening.
‐ So we didn't have like the physical intimacy
that I wanted.
‐ Ooh! Guys in fantasy suites. ‐ Oof.
‐ I don't know if there's a season
where the order has ever mattered more
because say he slept with the woman in the first suite
he'd have to tell girl number two, like,
"I'm not a virgin anymore." RACHEL: Yeah.
‐ Right. ‐ And I would have gone
into interview mode and been like, "How was it?"
But do you know what order
you're in when you're going into the fantasy suites?
Do you know if you're getting the lead, first, second, third?
‐ No, I didn't. I mean, with Kaitlyn's season,
I don't know what order I went, and I never asked.
I didn't care. ‐ I think I asked.
‐ Yeah, I don't think I'd want to know.
JULIET: I would ask too. ‐ I really think I asked.
Like, at the beginning,
like before we even made it into the actual fantasy suite.
I had to know.
‐ Can't you figure it out by like the timing?
Like, you've known how long you've been in this country
and so if it's been like two days versus four days
you know? ‐ There's a way to do it.
‐ But Peter and Bryan asked me. ‐ Interesting.
‐ What number they were.
‐ And you told them? ‐ Yeah, yeah, I told them.
‐ Are there condoms in the fantasy suites?
‐ Yeah, there's condoms. ‐ Good, keeping it healthy.
‐ Everything you need. ‐ Yeah, all the materials.
‐ Everything you need? Oh, what else?
BEN: There's a whole bowl. ‐ Oh, wow.
‐ A big ol' bowl. ‐ It is a bowl!
They must just pack that bowl up and pass it around.
‐ A bowl next to the bed.
LAUREN: Why are they not marketing a fantasy suite kit?
‐ That's a great point. ‐ Like a box.
‐ Yeah, a lot of opportunity there for like brand...
brand calibration. ‐ Yes.
Wow, and I would imagine everybody doesn't‐‐
I mean, outside of Colton's season,
everybody doesn't have sex in the fantasy suites.
‐ Yeah. BOTH: No.
‐ I mean, definitely not. ‐ No, I‐‐yeah, you're right.
Yes, you don't have sex with everybody in the fantasy suite.
‐ I mean, honestly, it's one of the best times
to ask some questions that you haven't felt comfortable asking
on camera or just to relax and dance and drink together.
The fantasy suites were my favorite week
not because of the sex
but because of the time that you get to spend
you learn a lot. ‐ Same.
‐ You don't have to name names.
Did you have sex with everyone in your fantasy suites?
RACHEL: No. ‐ Ben?
‐ No. LAUREN: All right.
We love you guys. Keeping it real.
All right, let's finish this up.
‐ How was your conversation with my dad?
‐ I did ask him for a blessing.
For an engagement. CASSIE: Mm‐hmm.
‐ And I didn't get his approval.
‐ You didn't?
‐ Do you love him?
‐ I think I do.
‐ There shouldn't be any hesitation in your mind
when you meet somebody that you want
to spend the rest of your life with, none.
‐ I don't want to see you leave here not
having what you came here for.
I'm not, like, in love.
‐ Were you planning on leaving soon?
‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ And I'm telling you
right now at the end of this I want it to be you.
I love you.
RACHEL: She is... ‐ She loves him like a brother.
Remember when the psychic guy said
they were brothers and sisters from another life?
Why did‐‐why else would she say that?
‐ I don't know why she said that.
It is baffling.
When I first watched that, I yelled,
"Why did she do that?"
RACHEL: She doesn't know why she said it.
She is the most confused person‐‐
or I really actually don't think she's confused.
She knows exactly what she wants.
She doesn't want Colton.
She just doesn't know how to say it,
and she doesn't want to hurt his feelings.
‐ The weirdest part is, she goes into the breakup piece
with him and she's talking about the date,
and she knows what she's gonna do
and he was like, "It was perfect."
And she was like, "It was perfect."
No, it wasn't perfect! You're leaving!
Like, you're getting to walk out here.
‐ She is so immature. LAUREN: [sighs]
‐ It was too much of confusing
like, language and rhetoric. ‐ Yeah.
‐ This episode was unbelievable.
I loved it so much, so let's finish with the fence jump!
Finally.
WOMAN: Somebody get Chris.
‐ Colton.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
He just jumped the [bleep] fence.
♪ ♪
‐ We're gonna see what happens after that fence jump
but an iconic moment in franchise history.
‐ It's gotta be top five instantly, right?
‐ Yeah, for sure. LAUREN: Colton claims
he quit the show. We've talked about this.
I don't think you can quit the show.
You're on it. They're gonna follow you.
What do you guys think?
‐ He's already‐‐he doesn't quit the show.
The show then just follows him to wherever he is next
where they continue. You can't quit the show.
RACHEL: They couldn't find him. That's a fact.
‐ For like a few hours, right? ‐ Yeah, that's a fact.
‐ It's very "Truman Show." This is kind of what happens.
Like, that's kind of what happens in that movie.
Also, just the line of "somebody call Chris,"
that's amazing too. It sets it so perfectly.
‐ I want people going like, [sweetly] "Colton."
And they're like, "The dogs are barking."
‐ All right, our winners and losers from the third trimester
the loser here is sex, guys. Take a look.
‐ Oh, boy.
Without getting into details, I've been very close.
I mean, I pretty done every‐‐like,
I'm experienced in other ways.
‐ I wish someone had asked him
if he was confident in his experience.
Do you guys feel Colton is confident?
‐ Not from that explanation. ‐ No.
‐ It looked like he couldn't even describe
what it is that he's done.
‐ Someone should have told him about the bases.
It would have been a lot easier for him to explain
what he's done.
‐ Let's not forget that this is the man who said
he wanted his first time to be her best time.
‐ Ooh, good point. ‐ Yeah.
But the loser is sex because there is no sex.
JULIET: No, no sex. BEN: No.
‐ Were you surprised that Colton
and Tayshia did not have sex?
‐ I don't think so. ‐ Yeah.
The whole time, if he wasn't, like, confident
with the person he wanted‐‐ and we now know
he really wanted Cassie‐‐
it would have been kind of sad if he'd just like
gone for it 'cause he was in the fantasy suites,
so I think he made the right choice.
‐ Yeah, Tayshia seemed bummed. JULIET: Yes, she did.
RACHEL: Totally. They had different expectations
going into the fantasy suite. ‐ Yeah.
The winner‐‐our first winner‐‐ of the third trimester:
dads.
So we had Colton go to all the hometowns.
He asked every single dad for the blessing,
and we got some great lines.
"There's no microwaving a relationship,"
from Tayshia's dad. ‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ If you guys had to pick your favorite dad... ?
‐ Ooh. ‐ Tayshia.
‐ Tayshia's dad, okay.
‐ I thought Tayshia's dad was‐‐ I actually was
a little bit upset
though that Tayshia's dad at the end gave the blessing
'cause I thought he had a great reason why
he wasn't going to and he should have stuck his gut.
‐ So that's why I wouldn't give it to him.
I'm gonna give it to Cassie's dad.
Realistically, your dad isn't going to give the blessing.
My dad didn't give the blessing.
‐ And he flew to Portugal. ‐ He wouldn't even be on TV.
‐ My dad‐‐yeah, he met‐‐ yeah, and flew to Portugal.
My dad met all three
but did not give the blessing to any of them.
‐ Juliet. ‐ Definitely Caelynn's dad.
I thought he was really sweet.
That was a really touching moment between him and Caelynn
‐ Oh, yeah, John. ‐ Yeah, John was really great.
RACHEL: I did cry. He was sweet.
‐ And then he similarly, was like,
"Why do you have to get married?"
He was like, "Can't you just be friends?"
‐ Best buds.
‐ But then he gives his blessing.
I never understand why they fold like that.
‐ I know, that's very clearly a very sweet man, though.
I really liked him. ‐ Yeah, I forgot about John.
‐ We've got another loser. It's our Bachelor.
Colton Underwood.
The reason we're giving Colton a loser title
in the third trimester is
in part because he did not tell Cassie
until they were in Portugal
that he had not gotten the blessing from her dad.
That felt like a big misstep.
‐ When was he supposed to tell her?
‐ I think at the hometown?
What do you think, Juliet? ‐ Yeah, at the end of the date.
Like, don't you reconvege, the two of you,
before you actually head out? He could have told her then.
‐ Okay, but do you realize how the setup
is for that afterward?
It's for the person to profess their love.
‐ Right. ‐ That's normally what happens.
So he was trying to get her to profess her feelings.
That's all he was focused on. ‐ But that's‐‐
‐ Which she didn't do. ‐ But, again, Rachel,
like this is what we were talking about earlier.
If he is going to be the best Bachelor possible,
what he has to do in that moment is say,
"I don't care if you profess your love right now,
"this something's more important.
Like, I love you and I want to be with you."
And so in this moment, instead of what the show needs
and instead of what this‐‐ typically happens here,
"I don't care about that. I care about you.
Your dad won't give me my blessing
and I need him to or I need you to talk to him
because I love you." RACHEL: Yeah.
Like, that's what he needs to do if this is his wife.
KIRPA: Last week Katie said there's girls
that are still here right now
that are not ready to be married.
TAYSHIA: I'm definitely ready for marriage.
‐ I‐‐I'm not questioning your readiness.
‐ How the [bleep] would Tayshia know if I'm ready or not?
I'm 100% ready. ‐ I am so ready.
‐ I have concerns about Cassie and Caelynn
in that they're just not ready.
‐ Caelynn, I'm sorry.
Take a moment. Say your good‐byes.
‐ So, Ben, you just said, "What the..."
So many people have talked about this exchange.
Rachel, what did it indicate to you
'cause a lot of people have been saying
did that mean Cassie and Caelynn both
wanted to be Bachelorette because of this weird good‐bye
they had. ‐ Yeah, she basically was like
"Listen, I've got 'Bachelorette' sewed up
and at this point I'm number four."
You got get engaged." But did you see Cassie's face?
When she says "get engaged," Cassie goes like this‐‐
JULIET: Yeah. ‐ Like, "Wait, no.
I'm not ready for that. God no!"
[laughs] ‐ Yeah, it was a lot.
I kinda‐‐but when I was released from Kaitlyn's season
I hugged Sean, I said, "good luck, buddy,
like, go get your one," so like,
I knew he loved Kaitlyn, and I knew that this was
what this was going to go towards.
So I get what she was saying.
but I do wonder, in that moment,
if Caelynn had a moment of joy
and Cassie had a moment of freak out like,
"One less person here."
‐ Uh‐oh. ‐ "I'm gonna get engaged."
‐ Juliet? ‐ "Oh, crap."
That was sort of what her face looked like.
‐ Yeah. ‐ Just like a big "oh crap"
like, "I have to‐‐or I guess I don't have to do this,
but now I might be the one who's supposed to get engaged."
She looked really terrified,
and also it just sort of indicates that they both view
this as a competition, which it is, of course,
but if there are deeper feelings
that maybe the way you perceive it change it.
‐ Can I just say that when she gets a rose,
when her name is called, she goes like this,
"Oh." I am telling you,
I really think she was trying to cancel
herself out after hometowns.
LAUREN: Do you think Cassie just wants to be Bachelorette?
‐ I... yes.
Forget it. Yes, yes!
I do, I do.
‐ Okay, well, we'll see what happens.
Next, we want to get into our MVP.
The true MVP of the entire season maybe
has to be the fence jump, guys.
Can we give a round of applause for the fence jump
and for Colton. ‐ The best fence ever.
‐ Yeah, that was amazing. LAUREN: And just the MVP
of the fence. ‐ Truly hard.
‐ Has there ever been a gate, a fence,
anything that has won our hearts
like this as an inanimate object?
BOTH: No. ‐ Where does he go?
So here's my que‐‐we'll find it out I think.
What was his thought process?
"I'm so angry, I'm so mad, I'm gonna jump this fence
"and just go. Like, I'm in Portugal.
I'm not gonna get home anytime soon."
But the fence, the fact that there was a fence
that he had to leap and he did it successfully
is such a beautiful moment in "Bachelor" history.
‐ And just into the night, into the darkness.
I've talked to Colton about this and he's like,
"No, I jumped over on the other side,"
and he said he actually thought that someone from the crew
would be on the other side because he's so used to having
people from the crew around him, but no.
It was just pitch black, and he was gone.
‐ And no phone. Like, no flashlight.
And also no calling anyone.
Amazing. LAUREN: Yeah, amazing.
We're gonna find out more about what happened
after the fence jump, but now we know who our finals are
we can also get excited for "Bachelor in Paradise."
‐ Yes! ‐ Yes.
We're doing the "Bachelor in Paradise"
lottery draft.
For me, personally, I had to kind of look into how
a fantasy draft works, but this is the best way
for me to learn, yeah. RACHEL: You learn quickly.
‐ So the rules of the draft‐‐ it's a snake draft.
Tell me if I'm getting this right or wrong, Juliet.
We're gonna go just back and forth here,
naming our contestants who we feel
would absolutely slay
on the next season of "Paradise."
I'm gonna start us off 'cause I have had to learn so much
about this that I wanna make sure I get it right.
I'm going with Demi.
Demi's gonna kill on "Paradise."
RACHEL: That's a good pick. ‐ She brought us emotion,
humor, sexiness, drama,
those are the four boxes to check for me
in "Paradise" especially. Rachel.
‐ For the second pick in the draft,
I'm gonna go with Nicole. JULIET: Ooh.
‐ Because Nicole brings it all.
She's a person who is desperate for love,
a man, a relationship, and you gotta have that.
And there are gonna be plenty of men to choose from
She can cry on point.
And she's not afraid of drama and confrontation.
LAUREN: No, she brought up that touch word of bullying.
‐ Oh, yeah, you gotta have somebody bring that up.
Ben.
‐ I'm gonna go with somebody that will be a frontrunner
in "Paradise." The men will go after her.
And she has an attitude. That's Hannah B.
LAUREN: [gasps] BOTH: The Beast.
I want Hannah B. for "Bachelorette."
Sorry, I do. ‐ I do too.
‐ But she'd be great in "Paradise."
‐ I don't see that. ‐ You don't see it?
‐ I see "Paradise." ‐ She'd be good.
‐ Okay, she's gonna growl. Juliet.
JULIET: With my first pick,
sense we're doing a snake draft I get two in a row,
I'm going with Onyeka. She also loves to fight.
Just feels like she'll wanna be in the mix
or I see herself inserting herself into many fights.
And I'm just hopeful that she'll be bringing
a lot of heat, and then a sneaky second round pick
is Bri, who barely was on the show,
but was a social media sensation
and is also really hot.
So as a result, I feel like
"Paradise" will be her time to shine.
She was the one who spoke in the Australian accent
though she is not Australian.
‐ I think she's the new Grocery Store Joe.
‐ Yeah. I think so too. RACHEL: Oh, yeah. Good point.
So I think going to "Paradise," there's a lot
that she has going for her. ‐ And she's gorgeous.
And you know Onyeka brought up the phrase
"emotionally unstable."
So she's gonna have that to toss around.
Ben, back to you.
‐ I'm gonna go with somebody that's vertical jump
is gonna increase inches
over the off season.
She's gonna come back to the beach
ready to jump into somebody's arms
successfully, and that's Kirpa. ‐ Oh, nice.
[laughter]
‐ I like the buildup.
‐ I was wondering where you were going.
As long as she gets that jump right,
Kirpa could leave "Paradise" after that for me,
and I'd be like, "You redeemed yourself."
BEN: Yeah, you did all right. ‐ Yeah, you did all right.
BEN: You worked hard. ‐ Rachel.
‐ Okay, I'm gonna change it up a bit.
I'm gonna go with someone who is a little bit more stable
who we didn't get that much of
but you can tell that she's a grounded chick.
I'm going with Sydney. LAUREN: Mm.
‐ She seems very mature, she knows who she wants,
and she'll be a good balance in Paradise.
‐ I think Sydney will be good
because she does seem to really want a relationship.
BOTH: Yes. ‐ So she's gonna‐‐
And those real relationships come out of Paradise
has the highest success rate, really, of the shows.
Okay, I'm finishing off with
the woman who could wear a statement bikini.
Elyse.
Let's bring her back
and maybe have her leave again
in confused fashion when she
doesn't know how "Paradise"
works. I'm gonna take it.
All right, next up, we have got our final predictions
because the fence jump has happened,
fantasy suites have almost happened,
maybe we'll get Hannah G.
Guys, how do we think this season is going to end?
Will there be a proposal? Rachel, give us a yes or no.
‐ No, there can't be from what we've seen so far.
‐ Because he said he wanted it to be Cassie.
‐ Because he said he wanted it to be Cassie
and Cassie‐‐the one thing she's clear about is
that she's not ready for engagement.
‐ Ben. ‐ Uh, no.
There will be no engagement at the end
or proposal even,
and I think what we're gonna see is very similar
to Arie's season where we're gonna see a lot of
behind the scenes outside of really the frame of the show
filming of what Colton does next.
‐ Mm. ‐ Juliet?
‐ Hard no. There's no way to come back from that.
He can't propose.
If he did, it would be so hollow.
It would be kind of similar to Desiree's season,
like you mentioned, but I don't think he can pull it off.
‐ Well, and he can't even‐‐and I know he's jumped over
the fence, but say like, he does‐‐
say he was going to fight for Cassie,
say he goes and does that, if he proposes to her,
like he can't. She knows she's not ready.
So I agree with you guys. I think no proposal.
The question is, will we see more of Cassie?
He said he was going to fight for her,
we saw him jump a fence, I feel like we've got to see
how things continue from here with Cassie.
‐ I think Cassie has to come back in the finale.
You know, I don't even mean like the live parts.
Like, I think she needs to be in like the taped segments
or what not. It's so unfinished.
We can't just end it like that.
‐ Right, we need closure.
‐ On this one, do we believe Chris when he says,
"it's gonna be the most dramatic finale ever"?
‐ 100%. ‐ Yeah, yeah.
‐ It was‐‐they did not lie about this last episode.
The show‐‐this last episode is iconic.
It will go down in history as one of the best
and most incredible, and also, if Cassie‐‐
here's my‐‐if Cassie really wants to be the Bachelorette,
then we have to see her again. ‐ I think no though.
I don't think it can be more dramatic than Arie
breaking up with Becca in the two panel.
LAUREN: We got a split screen there.
‐ Yeah. ‐ But now we have a fence jump.
‐ That's true. I'm sticking with no.
‐ Okay.
What we do know is that, again, this has been the season
of a virgin who's not ready maybe,
a lot of women who aren't ready,
a lot of emotions, so we did this fun little thing
where say that Colton ends up in a relationship
we have all picked a calendar date
where if they breakup, this is when they will breakup.
Ben, I want to know why you picked November 20th.
‐ The reason is is because the next Bachelor
will be done filming and the pressure of the next guys
coming along and I think that changes the dynamic.
You no longer are the Bachelor.
You're a past Bachelor, and I know for me,
that was a weird transition
from going from the Bachelor to not,
and I think it's gonna be hard the relationship for them.
‐ Juliet, you went with July 27th.
That's pretty soon. ‐ Yeah.
I think mid‐"Paradise" so that "Bachelor" is sort of
still the talking points
and so there's some moment to build on
and, you know, kind of
see the rest of the summer and see if you can have fun.
‐ And Rachel, you said,
"She will definitely break up with him
and it will happen on May 18th."
‐ Forgot I said that. ‐ Tell me why.
Right before "Paradise."
Right before we start finalizing people
for "Paradise" of next year so you'll have gone through,
you'll have seen a couple of seasons,
"The Bachelor," "Bachelorette."
‐ Rachel, I'm surprised, but you're believing in
this relationship‐‐ RACHEL: Yeah, I'm sorry.
I did not mean‐‐ ‐ No, that's great.
‐ I just realized that. I did not mean this way.
‐ Okay, let's finish up here
by doing something that I love to do for the show.
It's an amazing journey.
One word to describe this season.
Rachel, what's yours?
‐ Oh, my gosh.
Come back to me.
Hold on, come back to me. ‐ Ben.
‐ I was not ready. ‐ One word to describe
Colton's season. ‐ The word that Colton
and the women liked to use at every scenario
"amazing." LAUREN: Amazing.
Juliet?
‐ Wow, and to quote Hannah B.,
you stole my words.
I would say my one word for this is
nearly erotic.
That's two words, I'm sorry. ‐ Oh, that's terrific.
‐ That works. Sub‐erotic.
Erotic‐adjacent. Rachel, back to you.
‐ I guess I would just say unexpected.
LAUREN: Unexpected. My word is virgin.
None of us were prepared,
and we might be having our first time.
We had our first fence jump.
This has been "Can I Steal You For A Second?"
I want to say thank you to all you guys
and give a cheers to Colton Underwood
and "The Bachelor." ALL: Cheers.
LAUREN: Cheers, everybody. Cheers
to the most dramatic finale ever over the fence.