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>> Announcer: THE FOLLOWING IS A

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PRESENTATION OF HBO SPORTS.

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>> Narrator: TONIGHT, ON "REAL

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SPORTS"...

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AS CONTROVERSY GRIPS THE NFL,

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WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE E-MAIL

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FALLOUT WITH DeMAURICE SMITH,

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THE HEAD OF THE NFL PLAYERS

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ASSOCIATION.

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THESE EMAILS WERE NOT NEW.

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NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT UNTIL

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THE LEAK.

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THAT HAS TO DISTURB YOU.

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>> THAT'S A PROBLEM.

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>> Narrator: THERE'S A GOLD RUSH

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UNDERWAY IN COLLEGE SPORTS, AS

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STUDENT ATHLETES, FOR THE FIRST

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TIME EVER, ARE CREATIVELY

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MONETIZING THEIR EFFORTS.

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>> WE ARE GOING TO DRINK THIS

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AND GO TO PRACTICE.

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>> WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF

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TIME, YOU GUYS COULD EXCEED

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A MILLION DOLLARS.

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>> WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO

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CAPITALIZE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

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>> Narrator: THEY ARE REAL LIFE

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GIANTS, MEN WHO GROW TO SEVEN

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AND A HALF FEET TALL, MISFITS IN

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EVERY WAY, EXCEPT FOR

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BASKETBALL.

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>> ALL THE GOOD THINGS I HAVE IN

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MY LIFE IS BECAUSE OF HOW TALL I

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AM.

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BASKETBALL HAS GIVEN ME A LOT.

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>> Narrator: AN INCREASING

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NUMBER OF BLIND CHILDREN ARE NOW

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PARTICIPATING IN MAINSTREAM

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SPORTS, THANKS TO A SPECIAL

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SUMMER CAMP.

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>> I RUN ABOUT SIX DAYS A WEEK.

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IT'S ABOUT 5 MILES, SO

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ALTOGETHER, 30 MILES IN A WEEK.

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>> THAT'S A LOT.

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>> YEAH, I KNOW.

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TELL ME ABOUT IT.

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>> Announcer: AND NOW, YOUR

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HOST, BRYANT GUMBEL.

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>> Bryant: GOOD EVENING, AND

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WELCOME TO "REAL SPORTS," WHERE

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LIKE SO MANY OTHERS WE'VE BEEN

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FOLLOWING THE CONTINUING FALLOUT

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FROM THOSE LEAKED NFL E-MAILS

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THAT HAVE PUT A CRITICAL

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SPOTLIGHT ON THE LEAGUE AND SOME

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OF ITS PEOPLE.

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JON GRUDEN LOST HIS JOB AS THE

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HEAD COACH OF THE LAS VEGAS

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RAIDERS JUST LAST WEEK AFTER HIS

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E-MAILS OF 10 YEARS AGO INCLUDED

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SOME MYSOGYNISTIC, HOMOPHOBIC

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AND RACIAL SLURS.

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THE LATTER OF WHICH WAS DIRECTED

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AT DeMAURICE SMITH, THE

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PRESIDENT OF THE NFL PLAYER'S

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ASSOCIATION.

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HE'S WITH US FROM LONDON,

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D SMITH, GOOD EVENING.

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HE IS, SPOKEN WITH JON GRUDEN

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OVER THE YEARS.

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DID IT SHOCK YOU, SURPRISE YOU?

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>> DeMaurice: FIRST OF ALL, I

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WOULD SAY IT WAS MORE SHOCKING

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THAT -- A GROUP OF PEOPLE,

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APPARENTLY IN AN EMAIL

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CONVERSATION, FELT THAT IT WAS

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COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO ENGAGE IN

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A CONVERSATION LIKE THAT THAT,

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YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY -- YOU KNOW,

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DENIGRATED ME AND -- AND PEOPLE

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WHO LOOK LIKE ME BUT ALSO THE

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LATER REVELATIONS ABOUT, YOU

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NOT NAIVE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT

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THERE AREN'T PEOPLE OUT THERE

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WHO ARE DOING THIS.

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>> Bryant: RIGHT.

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I -- I SAW WHERE YOU SAID YOU

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FELT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF -- OF

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ON -- ON A PERSONAL LEVEL,

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NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT HE SAI

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HOW MUCH DID IT HURT?

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>> DeMaurice: IT HURT ME THAT MY

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FAMILY HAD TO SEE THIS.

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YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALWAYS THIS

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NEED TO SOMEHOW REDUCE YOU TO

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SOMETHING LESS THEN YOU ARE.

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>> Bryant: WHAT IS YOUR

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RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO DECRY

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JON GRUDEN'S RACIAL SLURS BUT

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CONTEND THAT THEY WERE VERY FEW

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OF US WHO COULD WITHSTAND THE

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SCRUTINY OF CHECKING OUR EMAILS

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OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS?

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WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?

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>> DeMaurice: WELL, YOU AND I

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HAVE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS

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ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT

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YOU ARE DEALING WITH THAT LONG

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BEFORE I WAS.

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IT'S A HYPOCRISY TO SAY ON ONE

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HAND, YOU KNOW, "THIS IS

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HORRIBLE," BUT THEN ON THE --

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THE -- THE OTHER HAND SAY,

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"WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S

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GREAT THAT YOU'RE TOUGH ENOUGH

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TO WITHSTAND IT."

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THE -- THE MEASURE OF US AND THE

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-- AND THE BETTER ANGELS OF OUR

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NATURE ISN'T WHETHER YOU OR I

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ARE TOUGH ENOUGH TO WITHSTAND

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IT.

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IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN

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ACTUALLY RISE ABOVE AND CONTINUE

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TO IMPROVE UPON AMERICA'S RACIST

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AND -- AND -- AND SEXIST PAST.

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>> Bryant: YEAH.

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>> DeMaurice: RIGHT--

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>> Bryant: I'M -- I -- I -- I'M

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NOT EAGER TO -- TO MINIMIZE WHAT

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GRUDEN DID, BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE

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IS THE IDEA THAT HE FELT

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COMFORTABLE SAYING WHAT HE DID

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IN THE FORUM IN WHICH HE SAID

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>> DeMaurice: THAT'S IT.

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THAT'S IT.

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AND -- AND TO ME, THE -- THE --

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THE -- THE NEXT ITERATION OF --

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OF THAT CONVERSATION IS HE FELT

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COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO SAY IT

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WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HE WAS ON

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THE EMAIL CHAIN WITH.

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AND -- AND TO THIS DAY, I MEAN,

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I -- I ONLY KNOW ONE OTHER

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PERSON WHO WAS ON THAT EMAIL

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CHAIN.

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I THINK, BRYANT, THERE WERE TWO

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OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE YET TO BE

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IDENTIFIED ON THAT EMAIL CHAIN.

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BUT THE NEXT STEP OF THAT IS OF

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COURSE THE PEOPLE WHO DEFENDED

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HIM OR GAVE HIM A PASS ON SUNDAY

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THAN LIKE HIM.

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>> Bryant: RIGHT.

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YOU'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY

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OF BROADCASTERS OF COLOR WHO

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BASICALLY APOLOGIZED FOR JON

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>> DeMaurice: WELL, AND--

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>> Bryant: FROM BROADCASTERS--

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IT -- IT'S ABHORRENT TO THINK

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THAT A GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE ON

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THAT EMAIL CHAIN BEING

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COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT.

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IT'S EQUALLY ABHORRENT TO ME TO

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-- TO SEE A GROUP OF PEOPLE

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DEFEND IT, KNOWING THAT THEY

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LIVE IN THIS LEGACY OF AMERICA'S

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PAST.

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THEY LIVE IN THIS HOPE OF

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AMERICA'S FUTURE.

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WE -- WE CAN'T BE TRULY HOPEFUL

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WHEN THOSE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO

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EXCUSE OR APOLOGIZE FOR

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>> Bryant: WELL, THERE -- THERE

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THINGS ABOUT THIS, NOT THE LEAST

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OF WHICH IS THAT THESE EMAILS

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WEREN'T NEW.

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THE LEAGUE HAS HAD THEM, AND

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NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT UNTIL

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THE LEAK.

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THAT HAS TO DISTURB YOU.

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>> DeMaurice: THAT'S A PROBLEM.

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I LOVE FOOTBALL, AND I LOVE THE

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GAME, BUT WE SHOULD BE ASPIRING

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TO THE BEST NATURE OF OURSELVES

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AND IN OUR SPORT AND IN OUR

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BUSINESS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND

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HOW THE CRITICAL PARTY OF THAT

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BUSINESS CAN BE AWARE OF THESE

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EMAILS FOR SO LONG AND DO

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NOTHING ABOUT IT.

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>> Bryant: THERE -- THERE ARE

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SUPPOSEDLY ABOUT 650,000 OF

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THESE EMAILS RELATING TO THE

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INVESTIGATION OF THE WASHINGTON

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FOOTBALL TEAM.

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YOU HAVE CALLED FOR THE RELEASE

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OF ALL OF THEM.

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I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA READ

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ALL OF 'EM, BUT --

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TO -- TO WHAT END?

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I MEAN, WHAT -- WHAT'S THE

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PURPOSE?

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>> DeMaurice: WELL, THE -- TO --

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TO BE PRECISE -- I'M CALLING ON,

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OR WE'RE CALLING ON -- AND --

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AND I THINK THE COUNTRY SHOULD

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CALL ON THE RELEASE OF ANY

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INFORMATION WITHIN THE LEAGUE'S

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POSSESSION THAT IS EVIDENCE OF

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-- OF RACIAL ANIMUS, SEXISM,

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MISOGYNY, BIAS, HOMOPHOBIA.

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>> Bryant: DO YOU REALLY

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RESPECT THEM TO RESPOND TO THIS

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CRY FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS

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INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THEM IN A

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NEGATIVE LIGHT AND SHOWS THEM TO

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BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC IMAGE

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THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT FORTH?

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>> DeMaurice: I THINK IT IS

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OKAY TO HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT

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THEY DO THAT, AND THE ONLY THING

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I CAN DO IS TRY TO MOVE THAT

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NEEDLE FORWARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE

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IN WHAT ONE PERSON TOLD ME.

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THAT, WHILE THERE ARE A LOT OF

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BOOKS ABOUT THE GREATEST

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GENERATION, THERE'S VERY FEW

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BOOKS ABOUT THE BRAVEST

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GENERATION.

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AND -- AND THAT BRAVE GENERATION

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IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE OVER

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HUNDREDS OF YEARS WHO WERE

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FORCIBLY BROUGHT TO THIS

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COUNTRY, ACCEPTED THIS COUNTRY

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AS THEIR OWN, MADE DECISIONS TO

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RAISE THEIR FAMILY IN THIS

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COUNTRY THAT NONETHELESS HAD A

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RACIST PAST.

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AND -- AND I THINK THAT'S OKAY

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FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE LIKE YOUR

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FATHER AND MY FATHER -- BEFORE

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ME, THAT THEY ALL HAVE AN

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EXPECTATION OF AN AMERICA THAT

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GO INTO THE NEXT QUESTION, THE

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PERSON WHO TOLD ME ABOUT THE

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BRAVEST GENERATION WAS, OF

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COURSE, YOU.

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>> Bryant: YOU ARE KIND AND

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GENEROUS.

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THESE EMAILS ARE ESPECIALLY

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PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY WERE

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WRITTEN IN THE MAIN BY WHITE

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MALES.

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AND INVOLVED IN THE MAIN, A

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WORKFORCE THAT IS ROUGHLY 70%

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AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

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SO HOW DO YOU VIEW THE CLAIM

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MADE BY SOME THAT THESE EMAILS

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SUGGEST WHAT CAN ONLY BE CALLED

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A PLANTATION MENTALITY?

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>> DeMaurice: WELL, CERTAINLY --

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THE MENTALITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO

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WERE IN THAT EMAIL -- IN THE

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THOSE EMAILS -- AND -- AND THE

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OTHER EMAILS, THEIR MENTALITY IS

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I THINK IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO

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SWEEP EVERYBODY UP IN THIS, BUT

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I GUESS MY POINT IS, FOR THE

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PEOPLE IN THIS LEAGUE THAT I AM

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TALKING PRIMARILY ABOUT

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OWNERSHIP, WHO BELIEVE THAT THIS

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LEAK SHOULD BE SOMETHING BETTER.

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THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO MATCH ACTIONS TO

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THEIR WORDS.

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AND IF THEY REFUSE TO DO THAT,

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MY MESSAGE TO SOME OF THEM THAT

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I'VE MADE AND -- AND NOW THE

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MESSAGE TO THEM PUBLICLY IS,

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"YOUR REFUSAL TO STEP UP TO THE

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PLATE AND DEMAND AN

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INVESTIGATION OR DEMAND THE

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RELEASE OF -- OF ANY EVIDENCE OF

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IMPROPRIETY WILL SPEAK VOLUMES

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ABOUT WHETHER YOU INDEED BELIEVE

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IN THIS -- IN THIS RACIST

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MENTALITY OR THIS PLANTATION

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MENTALITY OR -- OR EVEN WORSE,

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WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT THE

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NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE CAN BE

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A BETTER PART OF ITSELF.

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>> Bryant: A COUPLE OF NOTES

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TO LET YOU GO ON REAL QUICK.

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DO YOU TRUST ROGER CADDELL TO DO

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THE RIGHT THING?

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>> DeMaurice: WELL, ROGER AND

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I HAVE HAD AN INTERESTING

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RELATIONSHIP.

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OVER TIME.

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AND -- AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN,

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YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, HE AND I

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HAVE GONE AT IT ON BEHALF OF OUR

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RESPECTIVE MEMBERS -- IN -- IN

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BRUTAL FASHION.

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AND -- AND I MAKE NO APOLOGY FOR

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THAT AT ALL.

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IT'S MY JOB.

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I UNDERSTAND MY JOB.

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I'M NOT SURE --

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[LAUGHS]

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SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MY JOB.

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BUT I -- I UNDERSTAND MY JOB.

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BUT THERE ARE ALSO TIMES WHEN WE

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HAVE DONE, I THINK, SOME

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INCREDIBLE THINGS TOGETHER,

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WHETHER IT WAS THE APPROACH TO

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-- TO IMPROVING THE -- THE --

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THE HEALTH OF OUR -- OUR -- AND

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SAFETY OF OUR PLAYERS TO GETTING

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THROUGH COVID TO -- TO PULLING

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OFF A SUCCESSFUL SEASON LAST

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YEAR.

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AND -- AND -- AND -- AND MY

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POINT THERE IS, WHILE BOTH OF US

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BRING A LEVEL OF SKILL TO OUR

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JOB, THERE IS -- THERE ARE

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ASPECTS OF OUR JOB THAT REQUIRE

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MORE THAN JUST SKILL.

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IT REQUIRES A DEDICATION AND A

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BELIEF TO -- TO SOMETHING BIGGER

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THAN JUST PERHAPS MONEY.

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>> Bryant: OKAY.

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THEN -- THEN -- THEN -- THEN --

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THEN LET ME BE MORE BLUNT.

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>> Bryant: DO YOU THINK ROGER --

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>> Bryant: ROGER GOODELL HAS THE

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COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING?

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>> DeMaurice: YES.

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YES --

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>> DeMaurice: AND -- I DO.

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AND -- AND DO -- DOES THAT MEAN

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THAT THE RIGHT THING IS GOING TO

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OCCUR?

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THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE --

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IS -- IS LESS A CORPORATION THAN

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IT IS A FEUDAL OR AN -- OLIGARCH

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SYSTEM.

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AND THE DECISION -- THE ULTIMATE

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DECISION, I BELIEVE, ABOUT WHAT

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WILL HAPPEN OR THE DIRECTION

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THAT THIS LEAGUE WILL TAKE, WILL

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FALL TO THE 32 MORE THAN IT WILL

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FALL TO THE DECISION OF THE

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COMMISSIONER.

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>> Bryant: AND IT'LL BE

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INTERESTING TO SEE HOW EACH OF

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THOSE 32 RESPOND AND WHETHER THE

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MAJORITY OF THEM OR ANY OF THEM

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CHOOSE TO STEP UP.

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>> DeMaurice: 100%.

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>> Bryant: FINAL NOTE, WHEN

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GRUDEN'S EMAIL FIRST CAME OUT

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AND HE WAS IN DAMAGE CONTROL, HE

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PREDICTABLY CALLED YOU AND LEFT

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A MESSAGE.

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NOW THAT HE'S DISGRACED AND --

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AND OUT OF A JOB, TWO QUESTIONS.

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DO YOU THINK YOU'LL EVER SPEAK

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WITH HIM?

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DO YOU WANT TO?

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>> DeMaurice: LET ME ANSWER IT

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THIS WAY.

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I -- I KNOW I DON'T HAVE TO.

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AND WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER WE

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WILL, I -- I TEND TO BE A PERSON

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THAT DOESN'T HOLD GRUDGES.

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I'M SURE WE'LL TALK AT SOME

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POINT.

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>> Braynt: D.

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IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

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WISH YOU WELL.

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>> DeMaurice: YOU TOO.

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>> Bryant: THANK YOU.

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SAFE TRAVELS.

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>> DeMaurice: THANK YOU.

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BE SAFE.

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>> Bryant: ONE QUICK FINAL NOTE

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ON THIS STORY.

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ONE OF OUR PRODUCERS REACHED OUT

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TO JON GRUDEN AND SPOKE WITH HIM

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THIS WEEK, BUT HE DECLINED OUR

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REQUEST FOR AN INTERVIEW.

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LET'S MOVE ON.

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LAST SUMMER, A BRAND-NEW

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INDUSTRY WAS CREATED OVERNIGHT,

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WHEN THE SUPREME COURT RULED

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THAT COLLEGE ATHLETES, WHO'D

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LONG BEEN FINANCIALLY EXPLOITED,

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AND ENABLED THEM TO PROFIT OFF

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OF THEIR IDENTITIES.

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THEIR NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS

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RITES, HAVE MADE THE LETTERS NIL

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MORE IMPORTANT THAN NCAA, AND AS

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A RESULT, ATHLETES NATIONWIDE

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ARE FINALLY CASHING IN ON THE

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FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR.

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FOR AN IDEA OF WHO'S GETTING

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WHAT AND HOW, OUR JON FRANKEL

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WENT BACK TO SCHOOL.

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♪ ♪

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>> Narrator: MEET THE CAVINDER

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TWINS, HANNNA AND HALEY, NOT

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ONLY ARE THEY GREAT BASKETBALL

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PLAYERS, THEY ARE HUGELY POPULAR

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SOCIAL MEDIA STARS, MORE THAN 4

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MILLION FANS WATCH THEIR EVERY

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MOVE, EVERY OUTFIT, AND EVERY

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DRIBBLE.

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♪ ♪

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UNDER ALMOST ANY CIRCUMSTANCE,

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THAT KIND OF AUDIENCE DEVOTION

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WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED THE

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CAVINDERS A HUGE INCOME.

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WITH ONE BIG EXCEPTION.

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>> HERE'S CAVINDER FROM THE

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OUTSIDE AND SHE BURIES IT.

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>> Narrator: THE TWINS ARE

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COLLEGE ATHLETES, STARS AT

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FRESNO STATE UNIVERSITY, AND FOR

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MORE THAN 70 YEARS, THE LORDS OF

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COLLEGE SPORTS HAVE INSISTED

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THAT ATHLETES HAD TO BE

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AMATEURS, THAT IF THEY MADE ANY

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MONEY, WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT

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COLLEGE ATHLETICS WOULD BE

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RUINED.

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>> Jon: DID YOU EVER THINK TO

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YOURSELVES, "WELL, THIS IS

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UNFAIR.

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WE COULD BE MAKING MONEY.

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WE'RE REACHING HUGE NUMBERS?"

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>> BEING ABLE TO MAKE MONEY WAS

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SOMETHING THAT HANNA AND I FELT

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THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO

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DO.

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>> Narrator: IT'S AN ARGUMENT

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THAT HAS BEEN SIMMERING IN THE

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COURTS FOR MORE THAN A DECADE,

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BUT THIS SUMMER IT BOILED OVER,

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A WEEK AFTER GETTING SLAM-DUNKED

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BY THE SUPREME COURT, THE NCAA

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ANNOUNCED A SEISMIC REVERSAL TO

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THEIR IRONCLAD RULES.

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>> A LANDMARK RULING IS SHAKING

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UP COLLEGE SPORTS.

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STARTING TODAY THE NCAA IS

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CHANGING ITS LONG-HELD POLICY

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AND WILL ALLOW ATHLETES TO MAKE

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MONEY FROM THEIR NAME IMAGE AND

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LIKENESS.

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>> Narrator: THE NCAA ANNOUNCED

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THE NEW RULES ON JUNE 30TH, ON

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JULY 1 THE GOLD RUSH IN COLLEGE

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SPORTS WAS ON, AND THE CAVINDERS

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HEADED NOT WEST, BUT EAST TO

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STRIKE IT RICH, PITCHING THEIR

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FIRST PRODUCT, WHERE ELSE?

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IN TIMES SQUARE.

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>> WAY TO GO.

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> WE WERE LIKE, "HOLY COW.

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THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE."

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>> Jon: AND YOU LOOK UP ON A

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BILLBOARD AND WHAT DO YOU SEE?

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♪ ♪

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>> "BOOST MOBILE SIGNS CAVINDER

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TWINS."

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>> AND A PICTURE OF US.

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YOU NEVER IMAGINE YOURSELF ON A

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BILLBOARD IN TIMES SQUARE,

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ESPECIALLY IT BEING THAT BIG.

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>> Jon: CRAZY?

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>> YEAH.

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>> SURREAL.

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LIKE --

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>> IT WAS CRAZY.

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BUCKET LIST TYPE THING.

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>> Jon: BUCKET LIST?

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>> YEAH!

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♪ ♪

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>> Narrator: SINCE THEN, THE

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TWINS HAVE SIGNED A HALF DOZEN

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MORE MARKETING DEALS, INCLUDING

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ONE FOR A BRAND OF COFFEE CALLED

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BULLETPROOF.

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WHEN WE VISITED THEIR OFF-CAMPUS

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APARTMENT, THEY WERE

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GAME-PLANNING A NEW VIDEO IN

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WHICH THEY'D TOUT THE PRODUCT.

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>> START OFF WITH THE CREAMER.

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FROTH IT, MAKE SURE YOU FROTH

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YOURS.

523
00:16:41,934 --> 00:16:42,968
PUT THE CREAMER IN, FROTH IT,

524
00:16:43,035 --> 00:16:43,535
THEN I ADD THE ICE.

525
00:16:43,602 --> 00:16:44,269
>> YEAH, MAKE SURE YOU'RE

526
00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:45,037
TOUCHING ON THE ICED COFFEE.

527
00:16:45,104 --> 00:16:45,704
>> Jon: AND YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN

528
00:16:45,771 --> 00:16:46,372
KNOW WHO'S GOING FIRST?

529
00:16:46,438 --> 00:16:47,072
OR WHO'S SAYING WHAT LINE?

530
00:16:47,139 --> 00:16:47,806
YOU'RE JUST GONNA RELY ON YOUR

531
00:16:47,873 --> 00:16:48,340
TWINDOM?

532
00:16:48,407 --> 00:16:49,108
THAT YOU KNOW EACH OTHER.

533
00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:49,842
>> OH, SHE'LL --

534
00:16:49,908 --> 00:16:50,676
>> I THINK I'LL START.

535
00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:51,377
AND THEN WE'LL CUT IT SO IT

536
00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:52,144
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, LIKE,

537
00:16:52,211 --> 00:16:56,782
STRAIGHT 30 SECONDS.

538
00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:57,549
>> Narrator: THAT WAS AS CLOSE

539
00:16:57,616 --> 00:16:58,283
TO A SCRIPT AS THE TWINS WOULD

540
00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:58,684
NEED.

541
00:16:58,751 --> 00:16:59,451
THIS IS, AFTER ALL, SOCIAL

542
00:16:59,518 --> 00:17:02,321
MEDIA.

543
00:17:02,388 --> 00:17:03,222
IN JUST 20 MINUTES, AND WITH

544
00:17:03,288 --> 00:17:04,256
NOTHING MORE THAN AN IPHONE,

545
00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:06,058
HALEY AND HANNA CUT A NEW AD,

546
00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:11,697
AND CASHED ANOTHER CHECK.

547
00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:16,068
>> AND WE WANNA SHOW YOU --

548
00:17:16,135 --> 00:17:17,035
GUYS HOW WE MAKE OUR FIRST --

549
00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:17,503
>> A PERFECT CUP.

550
00:17:17,569 --> 00:17:18,203
>> A PERFECT CUP--

551
00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:18,971
>> CUP OF COFFEE CUP OF COFFEE.

552
00:17:19,037 --> 00:17:19,538
PERFECT.

553
00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:20,272
>> Narrator: A DAY LATER,

554
00:17:20,339 --> 00:17:20,873
BULLETPROOF APPROVED THE SPOT,

555
00:17:20,939 --> 00:17:21,473
AND IT WENT LIVE ON TIKTOK.

556
00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:22,141
>> WE'RE GONNA DRINK THESE AND

557
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:22,841
GO OFF TO PRACTICE.

558
00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:23,575
>> Jon: ACCORDING TO YOUR AGENT,

559
00:17:23,642 --> 00:17:24,276
WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,

560
00:17:24,343 --> 00:17:25,043
YOU GUYS COULD EXCEED A MILLION

561
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:25,677
DOLLARS.

562
00:17:25,744 --> 00:17:26,378
WHAT DO YOU GUYS SEE AS THE

563
00:17:26,445 --> 00:17:27,813
LIMIT, IF THERE IS ONE?

564
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,714
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY

565
00:17:28,781 --> 00:17:30,482
LIMITS OR EXPECTATIONS.

566
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:31,083
THIS IS OUR PRIME TIME TO MAKE

567
00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:32,551
MONEY.

568
00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:33,852
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO --

569
00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:34,620
CAPITALIZE OFF OF IT AS MUCH AS

570
00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:36,622
WE CAN.

571
00:17:36,688 --> 00:17:37,523
>> Narrator: IT'S BECOME THE NEW

572
00:17:37,589 --> 00:17:38,957
MANTRA OF THE COLLEGE ATHLETE:

573
00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:40,993
SHOW ME THE MONEY.

574
00:17:41,059 --> 00:17:42,094
SUDDENLY, IN EVERY COLLEGE TOWN

575
00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:44,163
IN AMERICA, AND MANY OF THE

576
00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:46,999
SPACES IN BETWEEN, ATHLETES ARE

577
00:17:47,065 --> 00:17:49,568
HAWKING EVERYTHING FROM CARS, TO

578
00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:57,876
RESTAURANTS, TO RETAIL SHOPS, TO

579
00:17:57,943 --> 00:18:03,515
EVEN ROOFING.

580
00:18:03,582 --> 00:18:04,850
>> YOU NEED A ROOF?

581
00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:08,320
CALL THE RUTH JOKER.

582
00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:08,954
>> Narrator: OF COURSE, IT

583
00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:09,721
HELPS, ESPECIALLY

584
00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:10,389
THIS TIME OF YEAR, IF YOU PLAY

585
00:18:10,456 --> 00:18:11,023
THE MOST POPULAR COLLEGE SPORT

586
00:18:11,089 --> 00:18:11,723
OF ALL,

587
00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:12,324
THE QUARTERBACK AT CLEMSON HAS

588
00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:13,091
BECOME A PITCHMAN FOR DR.

589
00:18:13,158 --> 00:18:14,593
PEPPER, IN AN AD THAT PLAYS UP

590
00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:18,363
THE BIG CHANGE.

591
00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:19,031
>> FANSVILLE IS BACK AND

592
00:18:19,097 --> 00:18:19,665
EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED.

593
00:18:19,731 --> 00:18:20,499
COLLEGE ATHLETES CAN BE IN

594
00:18:20,566 --> 00:18:23,469
COMMERCIALS NOW?

595
00:18:23,535 --> 00:18:24,036
>> DR. PEPPER.

596
00:18:24,102 --> 00:18:24,970
IT'S THE ONE DJ DESERVES.

597
00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:25,571
>> Narrator: THE KICKER AT LSU

598
00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:26,705
IS PROMOTING VELVEETA.

599
00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:28,073
>> I JUST SIGNED THE BOLDEST

600
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:29,975
CONTRACT IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

601
00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:36,882
VELVEETA'S QUESO CONTRACT.

602
00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:39,184
>> DANIELS, FOR THE END ZONE.

603
00:18:39,251 --> 00:18:39,318
>>

604
00:18:39,384 --> 00:18:40,052
>> Narrator: AND THE QUARTERBACK

605
00:18:40,118 --> 00:18:40,652
FOR THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE

606
00:18:40,719 --> 00:18:42,421
COUNTRY, JT DANIELS OF GEORGIA,

607
00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:44,289
HAS SIGNED LUCRATIVE DEALS WITH

608
00:18:44,356 --> 00:18:48,293
THE ACTIVEWEAR COMPANY RHOBACK,

609
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,295
THE TRADING CARD COMPANY SUPER

610
00:18:50,362 --> 00:18:52,097
GLOW, AND THE RESTAURANT CHAIN

611
00:18:52,164 --> 00:18:55,834
ZAXBY'S, WHERE WE JOINED HIM FOR

612
00:18:55,901 --> 00:18:58,971
LUNCH, ON THE HOUSE.

613
00:18:59,037 --> 00:19:03,342
>> I'M GOING TO DO A SIGNATURE,

614
00:19:03,408 --> 00:19:04,343
LARGE.

615
00:19:04,409 --> 00:19:05,010
>> Jon: A FEW MONTHS AGO, IF

616
00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:05,711
SOMEBODY HAD OFFERED YOU A MEAL,

617
00:19:05,777 --> 00:19:07,513
A CHICKEN SANDWICH, THAT'D BE

618
00:19:07,579 --> 00:19:08,146
THE END OF YOUR COLLEGE CAREER.

619
00:19:08,213 --> 00:19:08,680
J.T.

620
00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:09,314
>> YUP.

621
00:19:09,381 --> 00:19:12,451
>> Narrator: BUT NOW A FREE

622
00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:13,185
MEAL, WHAT THE NCAA USED TO CALL

623
00:19:13,252 --> 00:19:13,819
AN IMPERMISSIBLE BENEFIT IS JUST

624
00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:14,820
FINE.

625
00:19:14,887 --> 00:19:17,523
IN FACT, DANIELS ACTUALLY GETS

626
00:19:17,589 --> 00:19:19,057
PAID TO EAT HERE, AND HE GETS A

627
00:19:19,124 --> 00:19:20,859
STIPEND ON TOP OF THAT SO HE CAN

628
00:19:20,926 --> 00:19:23,462
BRING HIS TEAMMATES IN, TOO.

629
00:19:23,529 --> 00:19:24,897
>> Jon: YOU GET WHAT, ABOUT $500

630
00:19:24,963 --> 00:19:25,497
A MONTH OF FOOD?

631
00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:26,431
>> I GET A -- I GET A MONTHLY

632
00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:26,832
ALLOWANCE.

633
00:19:26,899 --> 00:19:27,533
[LAUGHS]

634
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:28,333
>> I -- I -- I USE IT UP PRETTY

635
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,334
WELL.

636
00:19:29,401 --> 00:19:30,569
>> IS IT JUST YOU OR DO YOU GET

637
00:19:30,636 --> 00:19:32,638
TO BRING PEOPLE IN?

638
00:19:32,704 --> 00:19:33,238
>> YEAH, I GET TO BRING PEOPLE

639
00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:33,772
IN.

640
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,040
IT'S A GOOD TIME.

641
00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:35,707
>> Jon: AND CAN YOU GO THROUGH

642
00:19:35,774 --> 00:19:37,075
$500 PRETTY QUICKLY?

643
00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:38,043
>> IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU BRING

644
00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:38,710
IN.

645
00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:39,678
IF YOU BRING AN O-LINE, THAT'S

646
00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:40,979
ABOUT A MEAL.

647
00:19:41,046 --> 00:19:42,648
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK J.T.

648
00:19:42,714 --> 00:19:43,215
DANIELS IS GONNA MAKE THIS

649
00:19:43,282 --> 00:19:44,383
SEASON?

650
00:19:44,449 --> 00:19:46,518
>> HIGH SIX FIGURES.

651
00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:47,419
AND IF THE TEAM AND PLAYER ARE

652
00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:48,687
SUCCESSFUL, INTO SEVEN FIGURES.

653
00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:50,355
>> Jon: SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

654
00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:50,956
CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS, IF

655
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:52,124
NOT MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS?

656
00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:53,125
>> IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, YES.

657
00:19:53,191 --> 00:19:54,226
IT'S FAIR MARKET.

658
00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:56,194
>> Narrator: DAN EVERETT IS J.T.

659
00:19:56,261 --> 00:19:57,896
DANIELS' MARKETING AGENT, BEFORE

660
00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:00,933
THE RULE CHANGED, HE COULD ONLY

661
00:20:00,999 --> 00:20:02,167
DO BUSINESS WITH PRO ATHLETES,

662
00:20:02,234 --> 00:20:04,236
OVERNIGHT, HE HAD A BRAND-NEW

663
00:20:04,303 --> 00:20:06,438
MARKET TO MINE.

664
00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:07,272
>> Jon: THIS PAST SUMMER, THE

665
00:20:07,339 --> 00:20:08,173
NCAA ANNOUNCED ITS NEW RULES.

666
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,374
AND THEY SAY BASICALLY IT'S ALL

667
00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:16,648
GO.

668
00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:17,382
>> A COLLEGE ATHLETE CAN NOW

669
00:20:17,449 --> 00:20:18,050
MAKE MONEY THE WAY A PRO ATHLETE

670
00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:18,250
DOES.

671
00:20:18,317 --> 00:20:18,884
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, WHAT'S YOUR

672
00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:19,518
FIRST REACTION?

673
00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:20,419
>> I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET TO

674
00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:21,753
WORK THE NEXT MORNING.

675
00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:22,487
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE'RE --

676
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:23,255
WE'RE IN THE SOUTH.

677
00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:23,822
WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY IN

678
00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:26,224
ATHENS, GEORGIA.

679
00:20:26,291 --> 00:20:28,093
IN THE SOUTH, COLLEGE FOOTBALL

680
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,361
IS ACTUALLY MORE POPULAR THAN

681
00:20:29,428 --> 00:20:31,330
THE NFL.

682
00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:32,297
A PREMIERE QUARTERBACK AT

683
00:20:32,364 --> 00:20:33,265
UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA IS MORE

684
00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:34,032
POPULAR A LOT OF TIMES THAN THE

685
00:20:34,099 --> 00:20:34,600
ATLANTA FALCONS' STARTING

686
00:20:34,666 --> 00:20:35,734
QUARTERBACK.

687
00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:36,702
>> Jon: HOW BIG A MARKET ARE WE

688
00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:37,903
TALKING ABOUT?

689
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:43,642
WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL HERE?

690
00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,010
>> ITS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS

691
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:45,711
OF ATHLETES.

692
00:20:45,777 --> 00:20:48,947
IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A

693
00:20:49,014 --> 00:20:50,682
BILLION-DOLLAR INDUSTRY QUICKLY.

694
00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:50,816
>>

695
00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:51,750
>> Narrator: IT COULD HAPPEN

696
00:20:51,817 --> 00:20:52,351
VERY QUICKLY, IN FACT, IF ONE

697
00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:53,085
EARLY TREND TAKES HOLD.

698
00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:56,722
A HANDFUL OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE

699
00:20:56,788 --> 00:20:57,422
COUNTRY, WEALTHY SUPERFANS HAVE

700
00:20:57,489 --> 00:20:58,290
STARTED TO SHOWER THEIR FAVORITE

701
00:20:58,357 --> 00:20:59,157
TEAMS WITH CASH, THE BETTER TO

702
00:20:59,224 --> 00:21:01,226
HELP THEM WIN.

703
00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:05,931
LIKE NICK GREER, A BOOSTER OF

704
00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,266
THE BYU FOOTBALL PROGRAM, WHO IS

705
00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:09,768
PAYING EVERY PLAYER ON THE SQUAD

706
00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:11,536
TO PROMOTE HIS COMPANY'S

707
00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:14,773
PRODUCT, BUILT PROTEIN BARS.

708
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,141
>> COLLEGE SPORTS FOR ME -- AND

709
00:21:16,208 --> 00:21:17,009
I THINK FOR SO MANY PEOPLE --

710
00:21:17,075 --> 00:21:19,544
IT'S ABOUT THE TEAM.

711
00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:20,912
>> Narrator: BEFORE THE START OF

712
00:21:20,979 --> 00:21:22,381
THIS SEASON, GREER APPEARED IN

713
00:21:22,447 --> 00:21:23,615
THE BYU MEETING ROOM TO GIVE THE

714
00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:25,550
PLAYERS THE NEWS.

715
00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:27,786
FIRST HE SUMMONED ONE OF THE

716
00:21:27,853 --> 00:21:29,287
TEAM'S WALK-ON PLAYERS, THOSE

717
00:21:29,354 --> 00:21:29,955
WITHOUT SCHOLARSHIPS TO PAY

718
00:21:30,022 --> 00:21:32,224
THEIR TUITION.

719
00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:33,125
>> AT BUILT, WE WANT YOU TO BE

720
00:21:33,191 --> 00:21:35,627
EMPLOYEE NUMBER 1.

721
00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:41,566
WE WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR TUITION.

722
00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:42,968
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

723
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:43,635
>> Narrator: THEN GREER

724
00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:44,336
ADDRESSED ALL THE WALK-ONS WITH

725
00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:45,404
THE SAME OFFER.

726
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:53,078
>> ALL WALK-ONS, STEP UP!

727
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,946
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, EMPLOYEES 1-36

728
00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:59,618
IN THE HOUSE --

729
00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:02,587
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

730
00:22:02,654 --> 00:22:03,588
>> Narrator: TWO WEEKS LATER,

731
00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:05,524
GREER WAS BACK, HANDING OUT THE

732
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:07,426
FIRST ROUND OF CHECKS, UP TO 12

733
00:22:07,492 --> 00:22:08,927
THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TUITION

734
00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:10,762
MONEY FOR EACH OF THE 36

735
00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:12,664
WALK-ONS, TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS

736
00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:15,100
FOR EACH OF THE 85 SCHOLARSHIP

737
00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:15,834
PLAYERS.

738
00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:17,469
>> PAY DAY, BABY.

739
00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:24,342
>> I'M RICH.

740
00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:25,043
>> TELL THE BOYS

741
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:25,877
NOT TO SPEND THAT IN VEGAS.

742
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:26,645
>> IF YOU RAISE THE GAME OF THE

743
00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:27,212
WALK-ON -- OF THE WALK-ON,

744
00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:28,180
YOU'RE GONNA RAISE THE GAME OF

745
00:22:28,246 --> 00:22:31,583
EVERYONE ELSE AROUND THEM.

746
00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:33,318
WE CAN GO MAKE THEM BETTER TEAM

747
00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:33,985
MEMBERS, BETTER PROVIDERS BETTER

748
00:22:34,052 --> 00:22:34,986
LEADERS.

749
00:22:35,053 --> 00:22:37,422
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

750
00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:39,224
>> Jon: I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO

751
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,026
SUPPORT, PROVIDE, HELP BUILD

752
00:22:41,093 --> 00:22:41,860
MORALE.

753
00:22:41,927 --> 00:22:43,095
>> RIGHT.

754
00:22:43,161 --> 00:22:43,962
>> Jon: YOU ALSO LIKE TO WIN,

755
00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:44,629
DON'T YOU?

756
00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:46,198
>> ABSOLUTELY.

757
00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:51,670
>> Narrator: BUT AS MUCH AS

758
00:22:51,737 --> 00:22:52,504
GREER LOVES BYU, HE ALSO CARES

759
00:22:52,571 --> 00:22:54,306
ABOUT HIS OWN BOTTOM LINE.

760
00:22:54,372 --> 00:22:55,407
WHICH IS WHY HE SAYS THAT HE'S

761
00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:56,742
GOING TO EXPAND HIS MARKETING

762
00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:57,976
BLITZ TO OTHER COLLEGE FOOTBALL

763
00:22:58,043 --> 00:23:00,846
PROGRAMS TOO, AS MANY AS HE CAN

764
00:23:00,912 --> 00:23:03,849
SIGN UP.

765
00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:04,483
>> Jon: YOU -- YOU'VE SAID THIS

766
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:05,350
IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

767
00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:05,917
>> IT IS.

768
00:23:05,984 --> 00:23:06,485
>> Jon: ARE YOU GONNA DO DEALS

769
00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:06,985
WITH OTHER SCHOOLS?

770
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,588
>> ABSOLUTELY.

771
00:23:09,654 --> 00:23:13,425
WE WANT -- WE WANT TO FUEL EVERY

772
00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:14,292
ENTIRE COLLEGE ATHLETIC TEAM IN

773
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,894
THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW.

774
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:17,062
WHEN THEY EAT OUR BARS, THEY EAT

775
00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:19,097
OUR PRODUCTS, THEY EAT

776
00:23:19,164 --> 00:23:20,298
EVERYTHING THAT WE CREATE,

777
00:23:20,365 --> 00:23:21,566
THEY'RE LIKE, "HOW WOULD I GO A

778
00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:24,770
DAY WITHOUT IT?"

779
00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:25,771
>> Narrator: OF COURSE, SOME ARE

780
00:23:25,837 --> 00:23:27,072
ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION: IS

781
00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:28,540
ALLOWING THIS MUCH OUTSIDE

782
00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:29,941
INFLUENCE OVER COLLEGE SPORTS

783
00:23:30,008 --> 00:23:31,243
TEAMS, AND THEIR

784
00:23:31,309 --> 00:23:34,146
STUDENT-ATHLETES, A GOOD IDEA?

785
00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:35,447
>> Jon: IF YOU'RE DRIVING THE

786
00:23:35,514 --> 00:23:37,582
TRAIN, AND YOU'RE PAYING THE

787
00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:38,550
ATHLETES, DOESN'T THAT GIVE YOU

788
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:39,384
TOO MUCH INFLUENCE OVER AN

789
00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:42,387
ATHLETIC PROGRAM?

790
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:43,155
>> LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT'S

791
00:23:43,221 --> 00:23:45,123
WHERE IT'S LIKE, "OKAY.

792
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:46,792
NCAA, COLLEGES, BRANDS,

793
00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:48,693
ATHLETES, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO

794
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,162
CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY

795
00:23:50,228 --> 00:23:51,596
SO CLEAR AS DAY AND THERE'S NOT

796
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:52,898
CONFUSION."

797
00:23:52,964 --> 00:23:53,732
CAN THERE AND WILL THERE BE

798
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:54,232
ORDER?

799
00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:54,866
ABSOLUTELY.

800
00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:56,668
AND I THINK IT'S GONNA COME

801
00:23:56,735 --> 00:23:57,636
FASTER AND SOONER THAN WE CAN

802
00:23:57,702 --> 00:24:01,339
IMAGINE.

803
00:24:01,406 --> 00:24:02,641
♪ ♪

804
00:24:02,707 --> 00:24:03,408
>> Narrator: BUT IT'S NOT JUST

805
00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:04,176
WEALTHY ENTREPRENEURS WHO ARE

806
00:24:04,242 --> 00:24:05,143
TRYING TO BUILD AN EMPIRE BY

807
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:06,144
SIGNING UP COLLEGE ATHLETES EN

808
00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:07,612
MASSE.

809
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:08,446
SO ARE SOME YOUNG AND UPSTART

810
00:24:08,513 --> 00:24:09,514
COLLEGE KIDS.

811
00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:12,317
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN,

812
00:24:12,384 --> 00:24:14,219
THESE UNDERGRADUATES HAVE BEGUN

813
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:15,787
SIGNING THEIR OWN CLASSMATES, AS

814
00:24:15,854 --> 00:24:17,656
WELL AS STUDENT ATHLETES AT

815
00:24:17,722 --> 00:24:19,157
OTHER SCHOOLS, AND HOOKING THEM

816
00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:20,559
UP WITH MARKETING DEALS.

817
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:24,629
AND IN THE MIDST OF THE GOLD

818
00:24:24,696 --> 00:24:25,664
RUSH, BUSINESS IS GOOD.

819
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:26,832
>> OUR LATEST PROJECTIONS SHOWED

820
00:24:26,898 --> 00:24:31,803
THAT THIS YEAR 100,000 PLUS.

821
00:24:31,870 --> 00:24:32,537
AND THE YEAR FOLLOWING -- BASED

822
00:24:32,604 --> 00:24:33,371
ON ANALYTICS, WE -- WE SHOULD BE

823
00:24:33,438 --> 00:24:33,905
DOING $500K PLUS IN SALES.

824
00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:36,174
>> I MAKE -- I'LL MAKE MORE

825
00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:37,309
MONEY FROM THIS IN MY FIRST FEW

826
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,710
YEARS THAN I WILL MY FIRST YEAR

827
00:24:38,777 --> 00:24:39,411
-- FIRST JOB OUT OF UNDERGRAD.

828
00:24:39,477 --> 00:24:43,348
>> Narrator: SETH SUGAR, MADDIE

829
00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:44,082
CALCAGNO, AND JORDAN MORANT ARE

830
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:44,783
PARTNERS IN THE BUSINESS.

831
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:45,584
TO PITCH ATHLETES FROM AROUND

832
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:46,618
THE COUNTRY THEY COMMUNICATE

833
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:47,586
JUST AS THEY WOULD WITH THEIR

834
00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:51,423
FRIENDS, OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.

835
00:24:51,489 --> 00:24:52,123
>> Jon: WHEN YOU SEND THAT

836
00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:52,924
MESSAGE, WHO DOES IT COME FROM?

837
00:24:52,991 --> 00:24:54,559
>> COMES FROM JORDAN'S ACCOUNT.

838
00:24:54,626 --> 00:24:55,427
>> Narrator: THAT'S BECAUSE IN

839
00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:56,361
ADDITION TO BEING A PARTNER IN

840
00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:59,564
THE COMPANY, JORDAN MORANT IS

841
00:24:59,631 --> 00:25:00,665
ALSO ON THE UNIVERSITY OF

842
00:25:00,732 --> 00:25:02,567
MICHIGAN FOOTBALL TEAM, WHICH

843
00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:04,269
GIVES HIM AUTOMATIC CREDIBILITY

844
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,136
WITH COLLEGE ATHLETES AROUND THE

845
00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:07,906
COUNTRY.

846
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:08,707
>> Jon: ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THE

847
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:10,742
REACH THAT YOUR NAME CARRIES?

848
00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:12,244
>> NO, I'M NOT -- I'M NOT

849
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:13,345
SURPRISED, BUT, LIKE, AT THE

850
00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:14,579
SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT

851
00:25:14,646 --> 00:25:15,313
-- I'M GETTING A LOT OF

852
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:15,981
RESPONSES.

853
00:25:16,047 --> 00:25:18,884
AND DEFINITELY I'M GLAD WE CAN

854
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:19,818
MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS, THOSE

855
00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:20,452
ATHL -- OTHER ATHLETES THAT I'VE

856
00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:20,852
NEVER MET BEFORE.

857
00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:21,486
>> Jon: IF YOU SENT OUT AN -- A

858
00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:22,053
MESSAGE THAT CAME FROM YOUR

859
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,088
ACCOUNTS --

860
00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:23,822
>> THERE'S A 0% CHANCE THAT

861
00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:24,489
ANYONE WOULD RESPOND TO ME.

862
00:25:24,556 --> 00:25:26,024
I'M A SCHMUCK.

863
00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:31,997
>> Jon: YOU SAID IT, I DIDN'T.

864
00:25:32,063 --> 00:25:33,398
>> I NEED YOU TO GET THAT

865
00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:37,335
CONTRACT BACK TO ME.

866
00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:38,036
>> Narrator: ON THE DAY WE WERE

867
00:25:38,103 --> 00:25:38,770
IN ANN ARBOR, WHILE MORANT WAS

868
00:25:38,837 --> 00:25:39,437
AT PRACTICE, MADDIE AND SETH

869
00:25:39,504 --> 00:25:40,205
CLOSED A DEAL WITH THE UNLV

870
00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:40,839
QUARTERBACK TATE MARTELL VIA

871
00:25:40,906 --> 00:25:41,473
ZOOM.

872
00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:42,474
>> CAN YOU SIGN IT AND SCAN IT?

873
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:42,941
>> YEAH.

874
00:25:43,008 --> 00:25:43,541
I CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

875
00:25:43,608 --> 00:25:44,643
>> WONDERFUL.

876
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,111
PERFECT.

877
00:25:46,177 --> 00:25:50,882
CHA-CHING, CHA-CHING.

878
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:51,783
>> Narrator: BACK IN CALIFORNIA

879
00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:52,651
THE CAVINDER TWINS ARE GETTING

880
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,853
READY FOR THE FRESNO STATE

881
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,655
BASKETBALL SEASON, THEIR FIRST

882
00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:59,658
GAME ACTION SINCE THE NEW NCAA

883
00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:00,825
RULES CHANGED THEIR LIVES, WE

884
00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:01,793
WANTED TO ASK THEM ABOUT A

885
00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:02,794
RECENT STORY IN THE FRESNO BEE

886
00:26:02,861 --> 00:26:04,930
THAT COMPARED THEIR EARNING

887
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:05,997
POWER TO THE SALARIES OF TOP

888
00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:10,635
OFFICIALS AT THEIR UNIVERSITY.

889
00:26:10,702 --> 00:26:11,503
>> Jon: WITH YOUR EARNINGS AND

890
00:26:11,569 --> 00:26:12,604
YOUR PROJECTED EARNINGS IN THE

891
00:26:12,671 --> 00:26:14,339
FUTURE, YOU MAKE MORE THAN THE

892
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:17,809
PRESIDENT OF THIS UNIVERSITY.

893
00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,844
YOU MAKE MORE THAN THE ATHLETIC

894
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:21,313
DIRECTOR OF YOUR ATHLETIC

895
00:26:21,379 --> 00:26:21,913
PROGRAM.

896
00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:23,214
YOU MAKE MORE THAN YOUR COACH.

897
00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:24,783
HOW DID THAT GO OVER?

898
00:26:24,849 --> 00:26:29,955
>> WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT

899
00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:31,056
[LAUGHS]

900
00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:31,756
>> WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT

901
00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:32,324
IT WITH ANYONE BESIDES OUR

902
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:32,958
FAMILY.

903
00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:34,392
>> Jon: YOU -- YOU DIDN'T GO UP

904
00:26:34,459 --> 00:26:35,026
TO COACH AND SAY, "HEY, DINNER'S

905
00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:35,393
ON US?"

906
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:36,194
>> OH, THERE'S -- THERE'S --

907
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:37,896
THERE'S LITTLE JOKES SOMETIMES.

908
00:26:37,963 --> 00:26:39,197
>> WE'LL BUY YOUR COFFEE.

909
00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:40,165
>> Jon: YOU -- YOU SAID, "WE'LL

910
00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:40,865
BUY YOUR COFFEE?"

911
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:43,902
[LAUGHS]

912
00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:45,537
>> YEAH.

913
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:46,538
>> Jon: YES, THIS SEASON, THE

914
00:26:46,604 --> 00:26:47,305
COFFEE IS DEFINITELY ON THE

915
00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:51,009
CAVINDERS.

916
00:26:51,076 --> 00:26:53,745
>> WE ARE GOING TO DRINK THESE

917
00:26:53,812 --> 00:26:54,245
AND GO OFF TO PRACTICE.

918
00:26:54,312 --> 00:26:58,984
♪ ♪

919
00:26:59,050 --> 00:26:59,918
>> Bryant: OUR JON FRANKEL IS

920
00:26:59,985 --> 00:27:02,020
ON ASSIGNMENT IN THE U.K.

921
00:27:02,087 --> 00:27:02,620
IT WOULD SEEM FROM LOOKING AT

922
00:27:02,687 --> 00:27:05,457
YOUR PIECE THAT MOST OF THESE

923
00:27:05,523 --> 00:27:06,391
AGREEMENTS ARE WITH LOCAL

924
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:07,625
COMPANIES.

925
00:27:07,692 --> 00:27:09,761
WITH THAT BEING ABOUT ACCURATE,

926
00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:10,762
OR OTHER NATIONAL COMPANIES

927
00:27:10,829 --> 00:27:13,264
INVOLVED AS WELL?

928
00:27:13,331 --> 00:27:13,932
>> Jon: THERE ARE SOME

929
00:27:13,999 --> 00:27:14,666
NATIONAL BRANDS GETTING IN ON

930
00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:15,333
THE GAME.

931
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,167
WE TALK ABOUT ZAXBY'S IS WITH

932
00:27:16,234 --> 00:27:16,801
J.T. AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

933
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:20,372
GEORGIA, SO THERE IS SOME

934
00:27:20,438 --> 00:27:21,006
CHAINS.

935
00:27:21,072 --> 00:27:22,073
MAYBE NOT THE BIGGEST YOU HAVE

936
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:26,111
HEARD OF, AND IF YOU HAD TO

937
00:27:26,177 --> 00:27:28,380
--

938
00:27:28,446 --> 00:27:31,249
>> Bryant: COULD THEY ENDORSE

939
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:32,217
ALCOHOL?

940
00:27:32,283 --> 00:27:33,385
COULD THEY ENDORSE CONDOMS?

941
00:27:33,451 --> 00:27:35,020
>> Jon: ALCOHOL IS DEFINITELY

942
00:27:35,086 --> 00:27:36,254
A NO-NO.

943
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,288
I CANNOT ENDORSE THE SECOND FOR

944
00:27:37,355 --> 00:27:37,722
YOU.

945
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:39,457
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY HAS A

946
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:40,725
BRUSH THAT ISSUE YET, BUT THERE

947
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,794
REALLY ARE NOT A LOT OF RULES

948
00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:44,029
YET IN THE VARIOUS STATES, AND

949
00:27:44,095 --> 00:27:45,663
THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS

950
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:47,165
THAT THEY SORT OF OPENED UP THE

951
00:27:47,232 --> 00:27:49,034
GATES TO THIS, AND EVERYBODY

952
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,036
PLAYS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

953
00:27:51,102 --> 00:27:51,970
IF YOU HAD TO CHARACTERIZE IT,

954
00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:54,773
IT COULD BE CALLED A WIN-WIN BY

955
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,074
SOME, BUT STILL THE ATHLETES ARE

956
00:27:56,141 --> 00:27:57,342
NOT GETTING THEIR HANDS ON ANY

957
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:59,411
OF THE BIG MONEY THAT THE NCAA

958
00:27:59,477 --> 00:28:02,414
HAS GOTTEN THROUGH REVENUES AND

959
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,148
TICKET SALES AND TV LICENSING

960
00:28:03,214 --> 00:28:06,251
AND SPONSORSHIPS AND SUCH.

961
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:07,018
AND THEY BASICALLY SAID TO THE

962
00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:07,619
ATHLETES, GO AHEAD, IF YOU CAN

963
00:28:07,685 --> 00:28:08,319
USE YOUR NAME, IMAGE, AND

964
00:28:08,386 --> 00:28:08,753
LIKENESS, GO TO IT.

965
00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:09,387
>> Bryant: THIS HAS BEEN SO

966
00:28:09,454 --> 00:28:10,855
LONG OVERDUE.

967
00:28:10,922 --> 00:28:13,158
CRITICS PREDICTED CHAOS.

968
00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:13,892
SO WHAT FAR, HAVE YOU SEEN A

969
00:28:13,958 --> 00:28:17,562
DOWNSIDE?

970
00:28:17,629 --> 00:28:19,097
>> Jon: IF YOU LOOK AT BRIGHAM

971
00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:19,964
YOUNG, IT PERHAPS GIVES THEM A

972
00:28:20,031 --> 00:28:24,536
COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

973
00:28:24,602 --> 00:28:26,971
FOR THIS REASON.

974
00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:27,972
IF YOU ARE NOW SAYING TO 36 WALK

975
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:28,606
ONSET WE ARE GOING TO COVER YOUR

976
00:28:28,673 --> 00:28:29,340
TUITION, WELL NOW, IF THERE IS A

977
00:28:29,407 --> 00:28:30,275
KID WHO MIGHT BE RECRUITED BY

978
00:28:30,341 --> 00:28:33,078
ANOTHER SCHOOL AND THEY WOULD

979
00:28:33,144 --> 00:28:34,579
TAKE THAT OFFER BECAUSE I NEED

980
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:38,950
THE MONEY, BUT THEY REALLY WANT

981
00:28:39,017 --> 00:28:39,717
TO PLAY AT BYU, YOU CAN SAY

982
00:28:39,784 --> 00:28:40,452
COME HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT YOUR

983
00:28:40,518 --> 00:28:43,154
TUITION COVERED BY AN ALUMNI.

984
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:43,788
>> Bryant: ALL RIGHT, JON,

985
00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:44,522
THANKS VERY MUCH.

986
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:49,494
TRAVEL SAFELY.

987
00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:52,130
>> Jon: THANKS.

988
00:28:52,197 --> 00:28:53,131
>> Bryant: LET'S CHANGE GEARS.

989
00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:53,665
THERE ARE ALMOST 8 BILLION

990
00:28:53,731 --> 00:28:54,365
PEOPLE ON OUR PLANET.

991
00:28:54,432 --> 00:28:54,999
THEY COME IN ALL COLORS, SHAPES

992
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:55,900
AND SIZES, BUT ONLY A HANDFUL OF

993
00:28:55,967 --> 00:28:56,534
THEM ARE VERTICALLY SUPER-SIZED

994
00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:57,235
TO REACH A HEIGHT OF 7 AND A

995
00:28:57,302 --> 00:28:59,871
HALF FEET.

996
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:00,572
FOR THOSE REAL-LIFE GIANTS, THE

997
00:29:00,638 --> 00:29:01,639
CHALLENGE OF FITTING INTO A

998
00:29:01,706 --> 00:29:03,074
WORLD THAT IS NOT BUILT FOR

999
00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:04,209
THEM, IS NOT JUST FIGURATIVELY,

1000
00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:06,044
BUT ALSO PAINFULLY LITERAL.

1001
00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:09,114
FOR SUCH MEN, THERE IS OFTEN

1002
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:09,881
ONLY ONE PLACE WHERE THEIR

1003
00:29:09,948 --> 00:29:10,748
INCREDIBLE HEIGHT CAN BE MORE OF

1004
00:29:10,815 --> 00:29:12,283
A BLESSING THEN A BURDEN, AND

1005
00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:14,452
THAT'S THE BASKETBALL COURT.

1006
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,186
OUR DAVID SCOTT HAS A TALL TALE

1007
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:18,623
TO TELL.

1008
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:19,224
>> Narrator: NO NEED TO ADJUST

1009
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:21,025
YOUR PICTURE.

1010
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,127
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS REAL.

1011
00:29:22,193 --> 00:29:24,596
THAT'S ME ON THE RIGHT, AT

1012
00:29:24,662 --> 00:29:25,697
5-FOOT-10, ACTUALLY A SHADE

1013
00:29:25,763 --> 00:29:26,364
TALLER THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN

1014
00:29:26,431 --> 00:29:29,367
MALE.

1015
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:30,668
BUT ON THE LEFT IS ROBERT

1016
00:29:30,735 --> 00:29:32,804
BOBROCZKY, A YOUNG MAN WHO GREW

1017
00:29:32,871 --> 00:29:34,606
UP IN ROMANIA, AND KEPT GROWING,

1018
00:29:34,672 --> 00:29:35,473
TO A HEIGHT OF OVER SEVEN FEET,

1019
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:38,510
SEVEN INCHES.

1020
00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:41,813
>> CONTRARY TO WHAT MOST PEOPLE

1021
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,015
MIGHT THINK, I WASN'T BORN 7'7."

1022
00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:46,217
SO AS A KID, YOU KNOW, I WAS

1023
00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:47,585
ALWAYS SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN

1024
00:29:47,652 --> 00:29:48,486
EVERYONE ELSE AND --

1025
00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:49,454
>> David: JUST SLIGHTLY?

1026
00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:50,722
>> JUST ONE HEAD ABOVE, LET'S

1027
00:29:50,788 --> 00:29:52,290
SAY.

1028
00:29:52,357 --> 00:29:53,091
>> David: ONE HEAD, UH-HUH.

1029
00:29:53,158 --> 00:29:54,592
>> NOTHING CRAZY.

1030
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:57,662
AND THEN -- WHEN I HIT THE AGE

1031
00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:03,168
OF 12, I JUST EXPLODED.

1032
00:30:03,234 --> 00:30:06,938
I BELIEVE I WENT FROM, LIKE,

1033
00:30:07,005 --> 00:30:09,440
6'6", 6'8" AT THE AGE OF 12 TO,

1034
00:30:09,507 --> 00:30:12,110
LIKE, 7'4" AROUND THE AGE OF 14.

1035
00:30:12,177 --> 00:30:13,511
>> Narrator: MOST ADOLESCENTS

1036
00:30:13,578 --> 00:30:14,979
FEEL AWKWARD OR OUT OF PLACE AT

1037
00:30:15,046 --> 00:30:15,914
SOME POINT, BUT THIS WAS

1038
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:17,282
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

1039
00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:18,750
BOBROCZKY PRAYED HE WOULD STOP

1040
00:30:18,816 --> 00:30:19,817
GROWING.

1041
00:30:19,884 --> 00:30:21,619
IT DIDN'T WORK.

1042
00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:24,889
>> YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS LITTLE

1043
00:30:24,956 --> 00:30:25,890
-- I -- I WOULD ALWAYS WISH TO,

1044
00:30:25,957 --> 00:30:27,725
LIKE, BE SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW?

1045
00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:28,526
I WOULD SEE SOMEONE WALK AND I'D

1046
00:30:28,593 --> 00:30:29,160
BE LIKE, "I WISH I COULD JUST BE

1047
00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:32,330
THEM."

1048
00:30:32,397 --> 00:30:33,097
>> Narrator: UNTIL BOBROCZKY WAS

1049
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:33,965
GIVEN A PIECE OF ADVICE BY

1050
00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:35,200
SOMEONE WHO COULD RELATE,

1051
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:36,634
ANOTHER GIANT WHO HAD GROWN TO A

1052
00:30:36,701 --> 00:30:37,535
HEIGHT OF MORE THAN SEVEN FEET,

1053
00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:38,736
AND HAD LEARNED TO MAKE THE BEST

1054
00:30:38,803 --> 00:30:39,904
OF IT.

1055
00:30:39,971 --> 00:30:42,540
HIS FATHER.

1056
00:30:42,607 --> 00:30:44,175
>> MY FATHER'S ADVICE, WHICH HE

1057
00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:46,744
USED TO TELL ME FROM A VERY

1058
00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:47,545
YOUNG AGE THAT, "YOU CAN SEE

1059
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:48,346
THIS EITHER AS A BLESSING OR A

1060
00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:50,181
CURSE."

1061
00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:51,082
>> David: YOUR HEIGHT COULD BE A

1062
00:30:51,149 --> 00:30:51,816
BLESSING OR A CURSE --

1063
00:30:51,883 --> 00:30:52,450
>> RIGHT.

1064
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:53,518
IT'S UP TO YOU.

1065
00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:54,385
>> David: AND THAT YOU WOULD

1066
00:30:54,452 --> 00:30:56,354
HAVE TO DECIDE.

1067
00:30:56,421 --> 00:30:57,622
>> MAKE THE DECISION, YEAH.

1068
00:30:57,689 --> 00:30:58,356
I JUST WOKE UP ONE DAY AND I

1069
00:30:58,423 --> 00:31:00,158
SAID, "OKAY.

1070
00:31:00,225 --> 00:31:01,626
WE'RE POSITIVE FROM NOW ON."

1071
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:02,427
>> David: YOU WERE READY TO

1072
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:02,994
EMBRACE IT?

1073
00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:06,264
>> BIG TIME.

1074
00:31:06,331 --> 00:31:07,031
>> Narrator: SO BOBROCZKY BEGAN

1075
00:31:07,098 --> 00:31:08,466
TO SPEND HIS TIME IN PERHAPS THE

1076
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:09,867
ONE PLACE ON EARTH WHERE HIS

1077
00:31:09,934 --> 00:31:10,702
BODY WOULD BE A BLESSING, AND

1078
00:31:10,768 --> 00:31:12,537
NOT A CURSE.

1079
00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:17,175
IN A WORLD WHERE HE CAN'T

1080
00:31:17,242 --> 00:31:18,109
PROPERLY FIT INTO A CAR, SIT IN

1081
00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:18,743
A CHAIR, OR SLEEP ON A BED, HE'S

1082
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:19,477
ALWAYS COMFORTABLE ON A

1083
00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:22,714
BASKETBALL COURT.

1084
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:24,282
>> David: YOU MAKE IT LOOK

1085
00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:24,616
PRETTY EASY.

1086
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:26,050
AND FOR -- FOR A TEAM, YOU CAN

1087
00:31:26,117 --> 00:31:27,652
SEE EASILY HOW THIS WOULD BE A

1088
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:29,487
SECRET WEAPON, OR A NOT SO

1089
00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:30,121
SECRET WEAPON.

1090
00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:31,823
>> YEAH.

1091
00:31:31,889 --> 00:31:32,490
>> David: ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO

1092
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:34,058
DEFEND.

1093
00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:40,098
>> PRETTY MUCH.

1094
00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:40,865
>> Narrator: BUT BOBROCZKY CAN

1095
00:31:40,932 --> 00:31:41,866
DO MORE THAN JUST THROW DOWN AN

1096
00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,334
EASY DUNK ON HIS TIP TOES.

1097
00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,404
HE'S MADE HIMSELF INTO A SKILLED

1098
00:31:46,471 --> 00:31:47,472
PLAYER, SKILLED ENOUGH THAT HE'S

1099
00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:52,043
NOW PLAYING COLLEGE BASKETBALL

1100
00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:52,910
IN AMERICA, HERE AT ROCHESTER

1101
00:31:52,977 --> 00:31:53,511
UNIVERSITY IN MICHIGAN, WITH

1102
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:54,245
HOPES OF ONE DAY PLAYING IN THE

1103
00:31:54,312 --> 00:31:58,016
NBA.

1104
00:31:58,082 --> 00:31:59,417
FOR MOST MEN, THAT WOULD BE A

1105
00:31:59,484 --> 00:32:01,219
NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE DREAM.

1106
00:32:01,286 --> 00:32:02,720
THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MAN'S ODDS

1107
00:32:02,787 --> 00:32:04,022
OF EVER PLAYING IN THE LEAGUE

1108
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:07,025
ARE MORE THAN ONE IN A MILLION.

1109
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:08,059
BUT FOR THOSE WHO STAND MORE

1110
00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:10,628
THAN SEVEN FEET TALL, THE

1111
00:32:10,695 --> 00:32:12,130
CHANCES INCREASE BY A STAGGERING

1112
00:32:12,196 --> 00:32:13,164
AMOUNT, UP TO AN ESTIMATED ONE

1113
00:32:13,231 --> 00:32:15,366
IN SEVEN.

1114
00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:16,200
IT'S A STUNNING STATISTIC THAT'S

1115
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:17,302
WELL KNOWN WITHIN THE GLOBAL

1116
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:20,071
COMMUNITY OF GIANTS.

1117
00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:22,573
>> I HEARD THAT STATISTIC FOR A

1118
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,941
VERY LONG TIME, MANY, MANY YEARS

1119
00:32:24,008 --> 00:32:26,844
NOW.

1120
00:32:26,911 --> 00:32:28,413
AS A KID, PART OF THE REASON WHY

1121
00:32:28,479 --> 00:32:30,915
-- WHY I FEEL LIKE I LOVED

1122
00:32:30,982 --> 00:32:33,351
BASKETBALL SO MUCH BACK THEN WAS

1123
00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:34,252
BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS

1124
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:35,119
STATISTIC, IN A WAY.

1125
00:32:35,186 --> 00:32:36,554
I WAS LIKE, "WELL, MAYBE I CAN

1126
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:37,822
DO IT.

1127
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:38,623
AND IF I DO IT, THAT CHANGES

1128
00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:41,426
EVERYTHING."

1129
00:32:41,492 --> 00:32:42,160
>> Narrator: IT CERTAINLY

1130
00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:43,494
CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR THE LAST

1131
00:32:43,561 --> 00:32:45,330
SEVEN-FOOT-SEVEN GIANT TO COME

1132
00:32:45,396 --> 00:32:47,565
OUT OF ROMANIA, GEORGE MURESAN,

1133
00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:50,768
WHO BROKE INTO THE NBA IN 1993.

1134
00:32:50,835 --> 00:32:51,803
>> BIG GEORGE GETS THE BUCKET

1135
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:54,138
AND THE FOUL.

1136
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:55,373
>> Narrator: LARGER THAN LIFE,

1137
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,074
MURESAN SOON BECAME A FAN

1138
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:58,476
FAVORITE.

1139
00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,278
THEN HE BECAME A HOLLYWOOD STAR,

1140
00:33:00,345 --> 00:33:01,579
PLAYING OPPOSITE BILLY CRYSTAL

1141
00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:02,914
IN THE MAJOR MOTION PICTURE "MY

1142
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:09,120
GIANT."

1143
00:33:09,187 --> 00:33:10,788
>> NEW YORKERS HAVE SEEN

1144
00:33:10,855 --> 00:33:11,089
EVERYTHING.

1145
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:14,192
NO ONE HERE LOOKS TWICE AT YOU,

1146
00:33:14,258 --> 00:33:15,593
SEE?

1147
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:16,361
>> Narrator: MURESAN IS ONE OF A

1148
00:33:16,427 --> 00:33:17,295
HANDFUL OF GIANTS WHO'VE COME TO

1149
00:33:17,362 --> 00:33:17,895
AMERICA FROM ACROSS THE WORLD

1150
00:33:17,962 --> 00:33:18,663
AND FOUND WEALTH AND FAME IN THE

1151
00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:20,498
NBA.

1152
00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:21,733
FIRST CAME SEVEN-FOOT-SEVEN

1153
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,102
MANUTE BOL FROM SUDAN.

1154
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:24,869
>> BOL, HE DIDN'T EVEN LEAVE THE

1155
00:33:24,936 --> 00:33:26,704
FLOOR.

1156
00:33:26,771 --> 00:33:27,672
>> Narrator: LATER, THERE WAS

1157
00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:28,272
SEVEN-FOOT-SIX YAO MING FROM

1158
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:30,007
CHINA.

1159
00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:30,608
>> MING GOES BASELINE FOR THE

1160
00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:33,311
SLAM.

1161
00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:34,178
>> Narrator: NOW, THE LATEST

1162
00:33:34,245 --> 00:33:35,947
SENSATION IS SEVEN-FOOT-FIVE

1163
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:37,749
TACKO FALL, WHO CAME TO THE NBA

1164
00:33:37,815 --> 00:33:39,584
FROM SENEGAL, IN SEARCH OF THE

1165
00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:41,018
ONE PLACE ON EARTH WHERE HE

1166
00:33:41,085 --> 00:33:43,187
MIGHT FIT IN, LITERALLY.

1167
00:33:43,254 --> 00:33:44,255
>> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THINGS

1168
00:33:44,322 --> 00:33:45,356
THAT ARE MADE FOR ME, YOU KNOW,

1169
00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:48,025
CLOTHES AND SHOES.

1170
00:33:48,092 --> 00:33:49,394
>> David: REALLY AT EVERY TURN,

1171
00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:51,262
YOU'RE CONFRONTED WITH A WORLD

1172
00:33:51,329 --> 00:33:52,864
THAT'S BUILT FOR THE AVERAGE.

1173
00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:54,599
>> YEAH.

1174
00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:55,700
A LOT OF DUCKING THROUGH DOORS,

1175
00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:56,567
MAKING SURE I DON'T GET

1176
00:33:56,634 --> 00:33:58,236
CONCUSSIONS.

1177
00:33:58,302 --> 00:34:00,104
DOORS, CHAIRS, TABLES, BEDS,

1178
00:34:00,171 --> 00:34:01,105
SHOWERS.

1179
00:34:01,172 --> 00:34:04,041
EVERYTHING.

1180
00:34:04,108 --> 00:34:04,842
>> Narrator: LIKE ROBERT

1181
00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:06,277
BOBROCZKY, TACKO FALL SPENT HIS

1182
00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:07,912
YOUTH TOWERING AWKWARDLY OVER

1183
00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:08,813
HIS SCHOOLMATES, AND FOR THAT

1184
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,515
MATTER, HIS TEACHERS.

1185
00:34:10,581 --> 00:34:12,150
AND LIKE ROBERT BOBROCZKY, HE

1186
00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:13,718
DECIDED TO SEEK REFUGE ON A

1187
00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:16,654
BASKETBALL COURT.

1188
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:17,455
AT FIRST, HE SAYS, HE HAD NO

1189
00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:20,091
IDEA WHAT HE WAS DOING.

1190
00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:26,063
>> IF I WAS TO GRADE MYSELF

1191
00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:28,966
FROM, LIKE, 0-10, I'D GIVE A

1192
00:34:29,033 --> 00:34:30,334
ONE.

1193
00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:30,902
>> David: ONE?

1194
00:34:30,968 --> 00:34:32,003
>> A ONE.

1195
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:33,237
AND THAT'S BEING GENEROUS.

1196
00:34:33,304 --> 00:34:34,138
>> David: A GENEROUS ONE?

1197
00:34:34,205 --> 00:34:34,939
>> YES.

1198
00:34:35,006 --> 00:34:36,340
WHEN I FIRST STARTED I COULDN'T

1199
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:37,308
DUNK.

1200
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:38,643
>> David: EVEN AT 7'3?"

1201
00:34:38,709 --> 00:34:41,112
>> EVEN AT 7'3" I COULD NOT -- I

1202
00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:45,683
COULD NOT DUNK A BASKETBALL.

1203
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:46,284
>> Narrator: BUT IT TURNS OUT

1204
00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:47,552
THAT SIZE DOES MATTER.

1205
00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:49,253
BECAUSE JUST SEVEN YEARS LATER,

1206
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,289
TACKO FALL HAD MADE IT ALL THE

1207
00:34:51,355 --> 00:34:52,490
WAY TO THE NBA, WHERE, AS A

1208
00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:56,160
ROOKIE, HE GRIPPED THE PUBLIC'S

1209
00:34:56,227 --> 00:34:58,596
IMAGINATION.

1210
00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:00,097
>> TACKO!

1211
00:35:00,164 --> 00:35:01,499
TACKO!

1212
00:35:01,566 --> 00:35:03,501
>> Narrator: AND INSPIRED WHAT

1213
00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:04,435
CAME TO BE KNOWN AS TACKOMANIA,

1214
00:35:04,502 --> 00:35:07,472
EVEN THOUGH HE RARELY PLAYED.

1215
00:35:07,538 --> 00:35:08,272
FOR THE NBA'S GIANTS, IT'S A

1216
00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:10,541
BITTERSWEET REALITY.

1217
00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:11,709
THEY'RE OFTEN SHOWERED WITH

1218
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:13,678
ATTENTION, BUT FOR ALL THE WRONG

1219
00:35:13,744 --> 00:35:14,979
REASONS, SEEN LESS AS ATHLETES,

1220
00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:18,216
AND MORE AS ODDITIES.

1221
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:19,383
>> David: EVERY TIME YOU STEP ON

1222
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:20,318
THE FLOOR, THE GARDEN GOES

1223
00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:22,587
CRAZY, RIGHT?

1224
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:24,789
AND THE COACH PULLS YOU OFF THE

1225
00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:27,859
FLOOR, AND THEY BOO HIM.

1226
00:35:27,925 --> 00:35:29,594
AND THEN PEOPLE START SHOWING UP

1227
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:30,828
DRESSED AS TACOS, RIGHT?

1228
00:35:30,895 --> 00:35:31,996
HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND

1229
00:35:32,063 --> 00:35:35,299
TACKOMANIA?

1230
00:35:35,366 --> 00:35:37,368
>> I ALWAYS WONDER, LIKE, "HOW

1231
00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:39,937
COME?"

1232
00:35:40,004 --> 00:35:41,539
LIKE, "WHAT HAVE I DONE TO -- TO

1233
00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:43,307
-- TO DESERVE ALL OF THAT?"

1234
00:35:43,374 --> 00:35:44,842
AND THAT CROSSED MY MIND A LOT.

1235
00:35:44,909 --> 00:35:47,111
BUT THEN I ALWAYS THINK BACK,

1236
00:35:47,178 --> 00:35:47,778
OKAY, IT'S, LIKE, IT'S A GIFT

1237
00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:48,279
FROM GOD.

1238
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:48,880
YOU JUST -- YOU JUST HAVE TO

1239
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,649
EMBRACE IT.

1240
00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:52,650
>> Narrator: SO FALL TOOK IT AS

1241
00:35:52,717 --> 00:35:53,384
A COMPLEMENT WHEN ONE NIGHT IN

1242
00:35:53,451 --> 00:35:55,019
NEW YORK, THE OPPOSING FANS

1243
00:35:55,086 --> 00:35:56,654
BEGAN CHANTING FOR HIM, A GUY

1244
00:35:56,721 --> 00:35:58,723
WHO HADN'T YET SCORED AN NBA

1245
00:35:58,789 --> 00:36:02,126
POINT, TO COME INTO THE GAME.

1246
00:36:02,193 --> 00:36:03,461
>> AND AS SOON AS I GOT IN,

1247
00:36:03,528 --> 00:36:04,862
LIKE, YOU HEAR EVERYBODY WAS

1248
00:36:04,929 --> 00:36:08,165
CHEERING, YOU KNOW?

1249
00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:08,933
>> NOW THEY'RE CHEERING FOR

1250
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,534
TACKO THE SEVEN-FOOT-FIVE

1251
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:15,106
CELTIC.

1252
00:36:15,172 --> 00:36:15,973
>> AND IT WAS JUST SUCH A

1253
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,208
SPECIAL MOMENT.

1254
00:36:17,275 --> 00:36:17,708
AND MY FIRST POINT WAS A

1255
00:36:17,775 --> 00:36:23,214
DUNK.

1256
00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:24,148
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

1257
00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:25,182
>> HIS FIRST NBA POINTS, TO THE

1258
00:36:25,249 --> 00:36:25,716
DELIGHT OF THE CROWD.

1259
00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:28,519
WELCOME TO THE NBA, TACKO FALL.

1260
00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:30,254
>> THAT NIGHT I WENT BACK HOME,

1261
00:36:30,321 --> 00:36:32,023
AND I ALMOST CRIED.

1262
00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:33,291
JUST THINKING ABOUT MY JOURNEY

1263
00:36:33,357 --> 00:36:37,361
SO FAR.

1264
00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:38,229
AND JUST ME BEING THERE WAS A

1265
00:36:38,296 --> 00:36:40,831
BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.

1266
00:36:40,898 --> 00:36:44,802
BECAUSE OF WHERE I CAME FROM.

1267
00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:45,436
>> Narrator: FALL'S SUCCESS HAS

1268
00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:48,606
BEEN AN INSPIRATION FOR SOMEONE

1269
00:36:48,673 --> 00:36:49,240
ELSE AS WELL, ROBERT BOBROCZKY,

1270
00:36:49,307 --> 00:36:49,874
WHO RECENTLY REACHED OUT TO FALL

1271
00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:51,776
TO GET SOME ADVICE.

1272
00:36:51,842 --> 00:36:52,643
AMONG BOBROCZKY'S QUESTIONS: HOW

1273
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:53,945
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF PUTTING

1274
00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:57,782
WEIGHT ON A BODY THAT HAS GROWN

1275
00:36:57,848 --> 00:36:58,482
UP, BUT NOT OUT, AND COULD

1276
00:36:58,549 --> 00:36:59,150
HANDLE BEING SIGNIFICANTLY

1277
00:36:59,216 --> 00:37:04,221
HEAVIER.

1278
00:37:04,288 --> 00:37:04,956
>> USUALLY, I'M SOMEWHERE --

1279
00:37:05,022 --> 00:37:05,856
BETWEEN 190 AND, LIKE, BARELY

1280
00:37:05,923 --> 00:37:06,424
200.

1281
00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:09,260
YOU GOT GUYS LIKE TACKO FALL,

1282
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,796
WHO'S, LIKE, 320, 330.

1283
00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:12,697
AND YOU KNOW, HE'S BIG BUT HE

1284
00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:14,031
DOESN'T LOOK THAT BIG.

1285
00:37:14,098 --> 00:37:14,899
LIKE, YOU FEEL LIKE HE COULD

1286
00:37:14,966 --> 00:37:18,402
GAIN EVEN MORE.

1287
00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:19,904
SO I FEEL LIKE SAYING 350 FOR A

1288
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:26,477
7'7" GUY ISN'T A REACH -- WHICH

1289
00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:27,845
IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE -- WHERE

1290
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:30,348
I'M AT, SO BIG JUMP.

1291
00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:31,282
>> Narrator: BOBROCZKY'S HEIGHT

1292
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:32,550
HAS COME WITH ANOTHER COST AS

1293
00:37:32,617 --> 00:37:37,955
WELL: AS A BOY, HE GREW SO

1294
00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:38,589
QUICKLY, THAT HE GREW CROOKED,

1295
00:37:38,656 --> 00:37:39,090
AND SUFFERS FROM SEVERE

1296
00:37:39,156 --> 00:37:39,423
SCOLIOSIS.

1297
00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:42,093
BUT NONE OF THESE PHYSICAL

1298
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:42,893
CHALLENGES DETERRED KLINT

1299
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,195
PLEASANT, ROCHESTER UNIVERSITY'S

1300
00:37:44,261 --> 00:37:46,397
BASKETBALL COACH, FROM WANTING

1301
00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:47,598
TO WORK WITH BOBROCZKY.

1302
00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:49,700
>> MAKE YOUR MOVE.

1303
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:50,768
MAKE YOUR MOVE.

1304
00:37:50,835 --> 00:37:53,504
GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.

1305
00:37:53,571 --> 00:37:54,405
>> I THINK SOMEONE CAN COACH,

1306
00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:55,539
YOU KNOW, TEN LIFETIMES AND

1307
00:37:55,606 --> 00:37:58,476
NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO -- YOU

1308
00:37:58,542 --> 00:37:59,043
KNOW, TO COACH SOMEONE LIKE

1309
00:37:59,110 --> 00:37:59,410
ROBERT.

1310
00:37:59,477 --> 00:38:00,945
>> David: SO YOU OFFER HIM A

1311
00:38:01,012 --> 00:38:01,278
SCHOLARSHIP --

1312
00:38:01,345 --> 00:38:01,579
>> SURE.

1313
00:38:01,646 --> 00:38:02,346
>> David: BEFORE YOU GET TO SEE

1314
00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:02,813
HIM PLAY IN REAL LIFE?

1315
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,081
>> CORRECT.

1316
00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:04,815
>> David: KNOWING THAT HE'S GOT

1317
00:38:04,882 --> 00:38:05,816
SOME HEALTH ISSUE?

1318
00:38:05,883 --> 00:38:06,751
>> RIGHT.

1319
00:38:06,817 --> 00:38:08,019
>> David: WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

1320
00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:09,387
>> WELL, I'LL REMIND YOU HE'S

1321
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:13,024
7'8."

1322
00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:13,858
HE'S GOT THE GOD-GIVEN GIFTS OF

1323
00:38:13,924 --> 00:38:15,259
BEING INCREDIBLY TALL.

1324
00:38:15,326 --> 00:38:16,360
YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK YOU HAVE

1325
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:17,461
TO GIVE SOMEONE THAT HAS THAT

1326
00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:18,596
KIND OF SIZE AN OPPORTUNITY AND

1327
00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:21,198
A CHANCE.

1328
00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:22,667
>> Narrator: BOBROCZKY NOW HAS

1329
00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:24,402
FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE TO WORK ON

1330
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:25,736
HIS BODY AND GAME BEFORE GIVING

1331
00:38:25,803 --> 00:38:26,737
THE NBA A SHOT.

1332
00:38:26,804 --> 00:38:28,439
BUT EVEN AT HIS HEIGHT THERE ARE

1333
00:38:28,506 --> 00:38:30,775
NO GUARANTEES.

1334
00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:32,376
OTHERS LIKE HIM HAVE TRIED AND

1335
00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:33,444
COME UP, FOR PERHAPS THE FIRST

1336
00:38:33,511 --> 00:38:34,145
TIME IN THEIR LIVES, JUST A BIT

1337
00:38:34,211 --> 00:38:37,948
SHORT.

1338
00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:39,350
LIKE SEVEN-FOOT-SEVEN PAUL

1339
00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:41,018
STURGESS, A BRITISH BASKETBALL

1340
00:38:41,085 --> 00:38:43,187
PLAYER WHO NEVER GOT A CALL FROM

1341
00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:45,923
THE NBA, BUT DID GET A CALL FROM

1342
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,591
THE CIRCUS, THE CIRCUS OF THE

1343
00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:49,160
HARDWOOD, YES, THE LEGENDARY

1344
00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:50,728
HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS, WHICH

1345
00:38:50,795 --> 00:38:55,866
SIGNED UP STURGESS AND MADE HIM

1346
00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:56,701
A BASKETBALL STAR OF A DIFFERENT

1347
00:38:56,767 --> 00:39:01,005
KIND.

1348
00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:01,672
>> I ALWAYS JUST PLAYED ALONG

1349
00:39:01,739 --> 00:39:02,339
WITH HOW EASY IT WAS FOR ME TO

1350
00:39:02,406 --> 00:39:03,708
DUNK.

1351
00:39:03,774 --> 00:39:04,875
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I

1352
00:39:04,942 --> 00:39:06,343
DID, LIKE, EVERY GAME I DID, I

1353
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:07,478
HAD THIS MOMENT, I WOULD DO A

1354
00:39:07,545 --> 00:39:08,145
DUNK, AND I WOULD STAND AND HOLD

1355
00:39:08,212 --> 00:39:09,580
THE HOOP.

1356
00:39:09,647 --> 00:39:10,448
>> David: THE NO-JUMP DUNK.

1357
00:39:10,514 --> 00:39:11,749
>> THE NO-JUMP DUNK, YEAH.

1358
00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:13,350
SO --

1359
00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:14,852
>> David: SO NOW YOU'RE KIND OF

1360
00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:15,453
STRADDLING THE WORLD OF SPORTS

1361
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,054
AND THE WORLD OF ENTERTAINMENT.

1362
00:39:17,121 --> 00:39:17,755
>> RIGHT.

1363
00:39:17,822 --> 00:39:18,556
PEOPLE ENJOY SEEING SOMEONE

1364
00:39:18,622 --> 00:39:20,825
THAT'S DIFFERENT.

1365
00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:21,992
>> Narrator: IN FIVE YEARS WITH

1366
00:39:22,059 --> 00:39:26,831
THE GLOBETROTTERS, STURGESS'S

1367
00:39:26,897 --> 00:39:27,398
NICKNAME WAS "TINY," AND HIS

1368
00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:27,998
TRICKS WERE ALL BASED ON HIS

1369
00:39:28,065 --> 00:39:29,834
HEIGHT.

1370
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:30,868
IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN NBA

1371
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:33,003
GLORY, BUT IT WAS STILL A

1372
00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:33,804
BASKETBALL PAYCHECK, AND A WAY

1373
00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:37,641
TO SEE THE WORLD.

1374
00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:38,309
>> I GOT TO TRAVEL TO ABOUT 70

1375
00:39:38,375 --> 00:39:39,143
COUNTRIES WITH THOSE GUYS.

1376
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:39,877
>> David: SEVENTY?

1377
00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:41,278
>> SEVENTY, YEAH.

1378
00:39:41,345 --> 00:39:42,747
SO I'VE BEEN TO, LIKE --

1379
00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:44,749
LEBANON, FRANCE, GERMANY --

1380
00:39:44,815 --> 00:39:48,452
CHINA, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA--

1381
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:49,019
>> David: ALL COMPLIMENTS OF

1382
00:39:49,086 --> 00:39:54,158
BASKETBALL.

1383
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:54,959
>> ALL FROM BASKETBALL, YEAH.

1384
00:39:55,025 --> 00:39:55,659
>> Narrator: THESE DAYS,

1385
00:39:55,726 --> 00:39:56,694
STURGESS SAYS, HE'S GIVING BACK

1386
00:39:56,761 --> 00:39:57,461
TO THE GAME, AS HE REGULARLY

1387
00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,997
FOLDS HIMSELF INTO HIS CAR, AND

1388
00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:00,731
THEN DRIVES THE ENGLISH

1389
00:40:00,798 --> 00:40:01,432
COUNTRYSIDE TO ONE LOCAL SCHOOL

1390
00:40:01,499 --> 00:40:04,335
AFTER ANOTHER, WHERE HE GIVES

1391
00:40:04,401 --> 00:40:05,369
BASKETBALL WORKSHOPS TO YOUNG

1392
00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:06,270
CHILDREN, WHO CAN BARELY BELIEVE

1393
00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:08,639
THEIR EYES.

1394
00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:09,807
>> ALL THE GOOD THINGS I HAVE IN

1395
00:40:09,874 --> 00:40:11,008
MY LIFE, ALL THE GOOD

1396
00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:12,476
EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD IN MY LIFE

1397
00:40:12,543 --> 00:40:14,745
IS BECAUSE OF HOW TALL I AM.

1398
00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:15,746
AND BASKETBALL HAS GIVEN ME A

1399
00:40:15,813 --> 00:40:18,716
LOT.

1400
00:40:18,783 --> 00:40:19,416
>> Narrator: STILL, STURGESS

1401
00:40:19,483 --> 00:40:20,551
STRUGGLES WITH ONE MAJOR PART OF

1402
00:40:20,618 --> 00:40:22,253
LIFE AS A GIANT.

1403
00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:23,854
HERE IN AN EMPTY BAR, HE'S SAFE

1404
00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:25,689
FROM PRYING EYES, BUT EVERYWHERE

1405
00:40:25,756 --> 00:40:28,893
ELSE HE GOES, HE SAYS, HE'S

1406
00:40:28,959 --> 00:40:29,760
GAWKED AT LIKE SOMEONE FROM

1407
00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:30,828
ANOTHER PLANET.

1408
00:40:30,895 --> 00:40:31,996
>> EVERYWHERE I GO, PEOPLE ARE

1409
00:40:32,062 --> 00:40:32,863
GONNA SPEAK TO ME, ASK ME

1410
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:34,465
QUESTIONS, TAKE PHOTOS WITH ME.

1411
00:40:34,532 --> 00:40:35,499
>> David: EVERYWHERE EVERY DAY.

1412
00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,968
>> LITERALLY EVERYWHERE, YEAH.

1413
00:40:38,035 --> 00:40:39,236
I CAN'T GO TO THE SHOP DOWN THE

1414
00:40:39,303 --> 00:40:40,738
ROAD WITHOUT PEOPLE TAKING A

1415
00:40:40,805 --> 00:40:42,039
PHOTO OR, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT

1416
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:42,807
DOES GET TEDIOUS SOMETIMES.

1417
00:40:42,873 --> 00:40:45,876
LIKE, WALKING DOWN THE STREET, I

1418
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:46,510
-- I DON'T KNOW, I COULD BE

1419
00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:47,144
WALKING MY DOG, AND PEOPLE WANT

1420
00:40:47,211 --> 00:40:47,845
TO COME AND SPEAK TO ME.

1421
00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:50,681
AND, LIKE, AND IT WOULD BE NICE

1422
00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:51,549
TO HAVE, LIKE, ONE NORMAL DAY

1423
00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:52,716
WHERE I CAN GO AND DO WHATEVER I

1424
00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:53,918
WANT, PEOPLE DON'T BOTHER ME.

1425
00:40:53,984 --> 00:40:54,652
BUT --

1426
00:40:54,718 --> 00:40:55,719
>> David: NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY?

1427
00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:56,754
>> NOT -- NOT -- I LITERALLY

1428
00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:58,255
CAN'T GO NOWHERE.

1429
00:40:58,322 --> 00:40:59,557
>> PEOPLE SOMETIMES JUST GO

1430
00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:01,592
CRAZY.

1431
00:41:01,659 --> 00:41:03,160
AND THEY FORGET HOW TO BEHAVE.

1432
00:41:03,227 --> 00:41:04,195
>> David: THEY JUST WANT TO

1433
00:41:04,261 --> 00:41:05,362
ENGAGE YOU?

1434
00:41:05,429 --> 00:41:06,564
>> YEAH, YEAH.

1435
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:07,431
I FEEL REALLY BAD TO SAY NO.

1436
00:41:07,498 --> 00:41:09,533
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S,

1437
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,368
LIKE, A DOZEN PEOPLE.

1438
00:41:11,435 --> 00:41:12,269
SOMETIMES THERE'S HUNDREDS.

1439
00:41:12,336 --> 00:41:13,037
LIKE --

1440
00:41:13,103 --> 00:41:13,737
>> David: HUNDREDS?

1441
00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:19,009
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY YES

1442
00:41:19,076 --> 00:41:19,810
TO EVERYONE.

1443
00:41:19,877 --> 00:41:20,578
>> Narrator: STAYING UNDER THE

1444
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:21,679
RADAR IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS

1445
00:41:21,745 --> 00:41:22,680
BOBROCZKY CHOSE ROCHESTER

1446
00:41:22,746 --> 00:41:24,181
UNIVERSITY, A TINY COLLEGE IN

1447
00:41:24,248 --> 00:41:27,318
THE SUBURBS, WITH SPOTS ON

1448
00:41:27,384 --> 00:41:29,653
CAMPUS LIKE THIS TO FIND

1449
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:30,554
SOLITUDE.

1450
00:41:30,621 --> 00:41:33,057
>> IT'S GOOD NOT TO HAVE TO

1451
00:41:33,123 --> 00:41:34,959
WORRY ABOUT CAMERAS OR A BUNCH

1452
00:41:35,025 --> 00:41:38,362
OF PEOPLE ALWAYS BEING THERE.

1453
00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:40,130
SO I LIKE MY PEACE AND QUIET.

1454
00:41:40,197 --> 00:41:42,333
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S A

1455
00:41:42,399 --> 00:41:44,168
PRETTY GOOD FIT HERE FOR SURE.

1456
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:50,908
♪ ♪

1457
00:41:50,975 --> 00:41:51,909
>> Narrator: BOBROCZKY ALSO

1458
00:41:51,976 --> 00:41:53,310
ENJOYS THE SOLITUDE OF PLAYING

1459
00:41:53,377 --> 00:41:54,211
CLASSICAL PIANO, WHICH HE

1460
00:41:54,278 --> 00:41:56,413
LEARNED TO DO ALL BY HIMSELF.

1461
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,548
HE NOW THINKS HE MIGHT TRY HIS

1462
00:41:57,615 --> 00:41:59,149
HAND AT THE MUSIC BUSINESS, IF

1463
00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:01,218
BASKETBALL DOESN'T WORK OUT.

1464
00:42:01,285 --> 00:42:02,853
BUT WHEREVER HE ENDS UP, HE

1465
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,655
SAYS, HE'S GROWN TO BE

1466
00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:06,490
COMFORTABLE IN HIS OWN SKIN, ALL

1467
00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:07,658
SEVEN-FOOT-SEVEN-PLUS INCHES OF

1468
00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:10,294
IT.

1469
00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:11,295
>> David: SEVEN FOOT SEVEN,

1470
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,197
BLESSING OR CURSE?

1471
00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:13,931
>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME,

1472
00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:15,966
BLESSING.

1473
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:17,268
AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL STAY THAT

1474
00:42:17,334 --> 00:42:20,437
WAY FOREVER.

1475
00:42:20,504 --> 00:42:27,211
♪ ♪

1476
00:42:27,278 --> 00:42:30,281
>> Bryant: DAVID, HELP ME OUT.

1477
00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:33,550
ROBERT BOBROCZKY KEPT HIS HOODIE

1478
00:42:33,617 --> 00:42:35,386
UP IN EVERY SHOT BECAUSE?

1479
00:42:35,452 --> 00:42:37,187
>> David: HE IS INSECURE, AS

1480
00:42:37,254 --> 00:42:37,588
YOU CAN IMAGINE.

1481
00:42:37,655 --> 00:42:39,556
>> Bryant: HOW HARD IS HE

1482
00:42:39,623 --> 00:42:40,758
TRYING TO GAIN WEIGHT?

1483
00:42:40,824 --> 00:42:41,525
>> David: VERY HARD.

1484
00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:43,360
IT IS THE MAIN CHALLENGE FOR

1485
00:42:43,427 --> 00:42:43,594
HIM.

1486
00:42:43,661 --> 00:42:44,628
STILL YOUNG.

1487
00:42:44,695 --> 00:42:47,298
HE HAS NOT GROWN INTO THAT 7'7"

1488
00:42:47,364 --> 00:42:50,601
FRAME YET, AND IT IS NOT AN EASY

1489
00:42:50,668 --> 00:42:51,168
PROCESS.

1490
00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:53,037
IT IS ACTUALLY I THINK ONE OF

1491
00:42:53,103 --> 00:42:55,973
THE MAJOR OBSTACLES TO HIS

1492
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,740
FUTURE BASKETBALL ASPIRATIONS.

1493
00:42:56,807 --> 00:42:58,943
>> Bryant: BECAUSE, AS ANYBODY

1494
00:42:59,009 --> 00:43:00,344
WOULD BE VERY INSECURE BECAUSE

1495
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:01,145
THEY CANNOT FIT INTO SOCIETY AT

1496
00:43:01,211 --> 00:43:06,150
THAT HEIGHT, HOW RELUCTANT WERE

1497
00:43:06,216 --> 00:43:07,885
THEY TO GO ON CAMPUS?

1498
00:43:07,952 --> 00:43:09,753
>> David: EXTREMELY RELUCTANT.

1499
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:10,554
SCARED THAT THEY WOULD BE

1500
00:43:10,621 --> 00:43:14,992
RIDICULED OR EXPLOITED.

1501
00:43:15,059 --> 00:43:17,061
THEY ARE FIERCELY GUARDING THEIR

1502
00:43:17,127 --> 00:43:19,029
PRIVACY.

1503
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:22,866
LITERALLY, THEY AREN'T DOCKED AT

1504
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:23,233
24 HOURS A DAY.

1505
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,604
>> Bryant: YEAH.

1506
00:43:27,671 --> 00:43:28,706
>> David: THEY HAVE ALL

1507
00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:30,574
FIGURED OUT THAT BASKETBALL IS

1508
00:43:30,641 --> 00:43:34,945
THE WAY TO TURN WHAT COULD BE A

1509
00:43:35,012 --> 00:43:37,247
LIFETIME OF HARDSHIP INTO EQUAL

1510
00:43:37,314 --> 00:43:37,548
OPPORTUNITY.

1511
00:43:37,614 --> 00:43:38,882
AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T MAKE IT

1512
00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:42,987
ALL THE WAY TO THE NBA, THEY

1513
00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:44,188
WILL GET COLLEGE EDUCATIONS.

1514
00:43:44,254 --> 00:43:45,723
CAREERS AND ENTERTAINMENT IN

1515
00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:47,391
SOME CASES, AND SO I THINK THEY

1516
00:43:47,458 --> 00:43:51,462
HAVE FIGURED IT OUT THE HARD WA

1517
00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:51,829
WAY.

1518
00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:58,369
THAT BASKETBALL IS THE VEHICLE.

1519
00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:03,307
THERE ARE SOME, AS IT TURNS OUT.

1520
00:44:03,374 --> 00:44:04,241
>> Bryant: FOR OUR LAST STORY

1521
00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:04,908
THIS EVENING, WE'VE AN UPDATE OF

1522
00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:05,442
OUR REPORT ABOUT A CAMP

1523
00:44:05,509 --> 00:44:06,076
DEDICATED TO INTRODUCING SPORTS

1524
00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:06,977
TO A GROUP OF YOUNGSTERS WHO ARE

1525
00:44:07,044 --> 00:44:07,478
USUALLY CONSIGNED TO THE

1526
00:44:07,544 --> 00:44:08,012
SIDELINES, BECAUSE THEY'RE

1527
00:44:08,078 --> 00:44:10,647
BLIND.

1528
00:44:10,714 --> 00:44:11,782
WHEN WE FIRST AIRED THIS STORY 6

1529
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:12,950
YEARS AGO WE LEARNED THAT THE

1530
00:44:13,017 --> 00:44:14,218
CAMP EXPERIENCE WAS AS MUCH

1531
00:44:14,284 --> 00:44:15,919
ABOUT SELF-ESTEEM AS BUILDING

1532
00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:16,487
SKILLS, BUT THE IMPACT WAS

1533
00:44:16,553 --> 00:44:19,023
UNDENIABLE.

1534
00:44:19,089 --> 00:44:20,190
WELL, IN THE YEARS SINCE, THE

1535
00:44:20,257 --> 00:44:21,492
PROGRAM, LIKE THE KIDS, HAVE

1536
00:44:21,558 --> 00:44:24,595
GROWN A GREAT DEAL AND

1537
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:25,129
ACCOMPLISHED A LOT.

1538
00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:26,263
AS OUR SOLEDAD O'BRIEN EXPLAINS.

1539
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:28,799
>> ARE YOU READY?

1540
00:44:28,866 --> 00:44:29,566
>> YEAH!

1541
00:44:29,633 --> 00:44:32,770
>> Narrator: IT'S A LATE SUMMER

1542
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:33,637
MORNING AND BRAIDEN WINGROVE IS

1543
00:44:33,704 --> 00:44:34,304
LEADING PRACTICE FOR HIS HIGH

1544
00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:40,077
SCHOOL CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, FIRST

1545
00:44:40,144 --> 00:44:43,947
THERE'S A SERIES OF WARMUPS.

1546
00:44:44,014 --> 00:44:44,815
>> JUST GO AT YOUR OWN PACE.

1547
00:44:44,882 --> 00:44:45,449
THEN A LOOP THROUGH THE SCHOOL

1548
00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:45,983
CAMPUS, AND EVENTUALLY, AN

1549
00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:46,950
HOUR-LONG DISTANCE RUN THROUGH

1550
00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:50,587
THE LOCAL STREETS, TO PREPARE

1551
00:44:50,654 --> 00:44:51,488
FOR AN UPCOMING MEET.

1552
00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:54,625
IT'S A WELL-WORN ROUTINE FOR THE

1553
00:44:54,691 --> 00:44:55,526
17-YEAR-OLD SENIOR WHO WON'T LET

1554
00:44:55,592 --> 00:44:56,927
ANY OBSTACLE STOP HIM FROM

1555
00:44:56,994 --> 00:44:58,629
TRAINING, INCLUDING THE FACT

1556
00:44:58,695 --> 00:45:01,698
THAT HE'S BLIND.

1557
00:45:01,765 --> 00:45:03,300
>> I RUN ABOUT SIX DAYS A WEEK.

1558
00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:05,969
ABOUT FIVE MILES IN A DAY.

1559
00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:07,004
SO ALTOGETHER I RUN 30 MILES IN

1560
00:45:07,071 --> 00:45:07,871
A WEEK.

1561
00:45:07,938 --> 00:45:08,972
>> Soledad: THAT'S A LOT.

1562
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:09,773
>> YEAH, I KNOW, TELL ME ABOUT

1563
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,240
IT.

1564
00:45:10,307 --> 00:45:12,843
[LAUGHS]

1565
00:45:12,910 --> 00:45:14,111
BUT, LUCKILY, I'M IN SHAPE FOR

1566
00:45:14,178 --> 00:45:14,878
IT I GUESS RUNNING EVERY DAY

1567
00:45:14,945 --> 00:45:17,081
PAYS OFF.

1568
00:45:17,147 --> 00:45:17,714
>> RUNNERS!

1569
00:45:17,781 --> 00:45:20,184
>> Narrator: BRAIDEN IS PART OF

1570
00:45:20,250 --> 00:45:22,352
A SMALL BUT STEADILY GROWING

1571
00:45:22,419 --> 00:45:24,154
CLUB, BLIND SCHOLASTIC ATHLETES

1572
00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:25,289
WHO COMPETE AGAINST THEIR

1573
00:45:25,355 --> 00:45:28,425
SIGHTED PEERS.

1574
00:45:28,492 --> 00:45:30,127
HE'S COME A LONG WAY, LITERALLY,

1575
00:45:30,194 --> 00:45:33,564
SINCE THE FIRST TIME WE MET HIM.

1576
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:34,198
>> Soledad: DO YOU REMEMBER OUR

1577
00:45:34,264 --> 00:45:34,865
INTERVIEW FROM SIX YEARS AGO?

1578
00:45:34,932 --> 00:45:36,233
>> I SURE DO.

1579
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:38,402
>> Soledad: I NEVER KNEW YOU

1580
00:45:38,469 --> 00:45:39,570
WERE GONNA BECOME A REALLY

1581
00:45:39,636 --> 00:45:40,804
SOLID, SERIOUS RUNNER AT THE

1582
00:45:40,871 --> 00:45:42,873
TIME THAT WE DID THAT INTERVIEW.

1583
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:45,309
>> ME, NEITHER I NEVER, EVER

1584
00:45:45,375 --> 00:45:46,410
IMAGINED MYSELF BEING ON A HIGH

1585
00:45:46,477 --> 00:45:49,613
SCHOOL SPORTS TEAM.

1586
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,848
>> Narrator: WHEN WE FIRST MET

1587
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:54,151
BRAIDEN BACK IN 2015, HE WAS A

1588
00:45:54,218 --> 00:45:55,018
BOY OF 10 AND WAS JUST GETTING

1589
00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:56,053
ACCUSTOMED TO THE IDEA THAT A

1590
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,021
BLIND CHILD COULD DO SPORTS AT

1591
00:45:58,088 --> 00:46:00,991
ALL.

1592
00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:01,792
>> Soledad: SO WHAT'S THE TRICKY

1593
00:46:01,859 --> 00:46:02,392
PART ABOUT THIS?

1594
00:46:02,459 --> 00:46:02,960
WHAT'S THE HARDEST PART --

1595
00:46:03,026 --> 00:46:04,161
>> THAT YOU GOTTA KEEP YOUR

1596
00:46:04,228 --> 00:46:04,428
BALANCE.

1597
00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:08,132
>> Narrator: AT THE TIME,

1598
00:46:08,198 --> 00:46:08,832
BRAIDEN WAS A NEW CAMPER AT A

1599
00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:09,800
PLACE CALLED CAMP ABILITIES, A

1600
00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:11,268
UNIQUE SUMMER SPORTS CAMP IN

1601
00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:13,203
UPSTATE NEW YORK DESIGNED TO

1602
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:15,472
SHOW BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED

1603
00:46:15,539 --> 00:46:19,276
CHILDREN THAT THEY, TOO, COULD

1604
00:46:19,343 --> 00:46:19,743
GET IN THE GAME.

1605
00:46:19,810 --> 00:46:22,179
>> MADDIE!

1606
00:46:22,246 --> 00:46:23,180
>> THIS IS WHAT THE TRACK IS,

1607
00:46:23,247 --> 00:46:24,214
IT'S ALL THE WAY AROUND.

1608
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:25,182
>> Narrator: THERE, THE CHILDREN

1609
00:46:25,249 --> 00:46:26,617
WERE TAUGHT HOW TO USE THE

1610
00:46:26,683 --> 00:46:29,186
SENSES THEY DO HAVE, LIKE THEIR

1611
00:46:29,253 --> 00:46:33,190
HEARING, TO HELP THEM COMPETE.

1612
00:46:33,257 --> 00:46:34,158
WITH A LITTLE LISTENING, AND

1613
00:46:34,224 --> 00:46:35,893
SOME SPECIAL EQUIPMENT, THEY

1614
00:46:35,959 --> 00:46:39,763
LEARNED TO FIND THE BASKET, HIT

1615
00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:47,070
THE BALL, RUN THE TRACK, AND

1616
00:46:47,137 --> 00:46:52,876
EVEN REACH THE MOUNTAINTOP.

1617
00:46:52,943 --> 00:46:54,778
FOR BRAIDEN, THE SAFE AND

1618
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:56,213
SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT ENABLED

1619
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,549
HIM TO SUMMON HIS COURAGE AND

1620
00:46:58,615 --> 00:47:00,184
TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH, INTO THE

1621
00:47:00,250 --> 00:47:02,052
UNSEEN UNKNOWN.

1622
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:03,654
>> GOOD JOB!

1623
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:04,588
>> Soledad: I'VE HEARD SOME OF

1624
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:05,122
YOUR PEP TALKS.

1625
00:47:05,189 --> 00:47:05,889
WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU SAY

1626
00:47:05,956 --> 00:47:07,391
TO YOURSELF?

1627
00:47:07,457 --> 00:47:08,926
>> "COME ON, LET'S GET GOING."

1628
00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:09,693
>> Soledad: YEAH.

1629
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,661
AND WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR YOU?

1630
00:47:10,727 --> 00:47:13,463
>> SOMETIMES, IF MY BRAIN SAYS,

1631
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:15,966
"OKAY, LET'S STOP," AND I

1632
00:47:16,033 --> 00:47:16,967
IGNORED THE BRAIN AND KEPT

1633
00:47:17,034 --> 00:47:19,403
GOING.

1634
00:47:19,469 --> 00:47:21,905
>> Soledad: WHAT HAPPENED?

1635
00:47:21,972 --> 00:47:23,974
>> AND I -- AND IT LIKED IT!

1636
00:47:24,041 --> 00:47:24,908
RUN TO MY VOICE, RUN TO MY

1637
00:47:24,975 --> 00:47:25,342
VOICE!

1638
00:47:25,409 --> 00:47:25,842
KEEP GOING!

1639
00:47:25,909 --> 00:47:29,146
>> Narrator: IT WAS AN ATTITUDE

1640
00:47:29,213 --> 00:47:29,846
EMBRACED BY THE COUNSELORS, AND

1641
00:47:29,913 --> 00:47:30,747
SEEMED TO RUB OFF ON EVEN THE

1642
00:47:30,814 --> 00:47:33,116
YOUNGEST CAMPER, EIGHT-YEAR-OLD

1643
00:47:33,183 --> 00:47:34,851
ANNEKA PRAY.

1644
00:47:34,918 --> 00:47:36,486
>> 5:97!

1645
00:47:36,553 --> 00:47:37,521
>> Narrator: DESPITE IT BEING

1646
00:47:37,588 --> 00:47:40,357
HER FIRST TIME AT CAMP, WE FOUND

1647
00:47:40,424 --> 00:47:42,759
HER UPSIDE DOWN, WALKING ON

1648
00:47:42,826 --> 00:47:44,261
WATER, AND TRYING OUT A BRAND

1649
00:47:44,328 --> 00:47:50,434
NEW SWING.

1650
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:51,335
>> READY, SWING.

1651
00:47:51,401 --> 00:47:52,169
>> Soledad: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

1652
00:47:52,236 --> 00:47:52,736
SO FAR?

1653
00:47:52,803 --> 00:47:54,004
I KNOW YOU DID PADDLE BOARDING

1654
00:47:54,071 --> 00:47:54,238
--

1655
00:47:54,304 --> 00:47:54,972
>> AND I ALSO DID SWIMMING AND

1656
00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:55,539
GYMNASTICS.

1657
00:47:55,606 --> 00:47:56,206
>> Soledad: OH MY GOSH!

1658
00:47:56,273 --> 00:47:56,873
>> DID I TELL YOU BIKING?

1659
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:57,507
>> Soledad: YOU DID BIKING TOO?

1660
00:47:57,574 --> 00:47:58,041
>> I DID 28 LAPS AND SEVEN

1661
00:47:58,108 --> 00:48:00,077
MILES!

1662
00:48:00,143 --> 00:48:00,711
>> Soledad: YOU DID SEVEN MILES

1663
00:48:00,777 --> 00:48:01,945
ON A BIKE YESTERDAY?

1664
00:48:02,012 --> 00:48:02,813
>> AND IT WAS MY FIRST TIME!

1665
00:48:02,879 --> 00:48:03,347
>> GIVE ME POUND.

1666
00:48:03,413 --> 00:48:06,350
GIVE ME POUND!

1667
00:48:06,416 --> 00:48:09,253
>> Narrator: ANNEKA TOLD US THAT

1668
00:48:09,319 --> 00:48:11,021
BACK IN HER COMMUNITY, PEOPLE

1669
00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:12,923
ASSUMED SHE COULDN'T PLAY LIKE

1670
00:48:12,990 --> 00:48:14,658
THE OTHER KIDS, BUT AT CAMP, SHE

1671
00:48:14,725 --> 00:48:17,928
LEARNED THEY WERE WRONG.

1672
00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:18,929
>> JUST BECAUSE I'M BLIND

1673
00:48:18,996 --> 00:48:19,596
DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW TO

1674
00:48:19,663 --> 00:48:20,697
THROW AND CATCH.

1675
00:48:20,764 --> 00:48:21,898
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO DO IS

1676
00:48:21,965 --> 00:48:23,367
JUST HAVE YOUR ARMS.

1677
00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:25,569
YOU ONLY NEED YOUR ARMS!

1678
00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:26,803
>> Narrator: BUT WHILE ANNEKA

1679
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:28,238
WAS FEARLESS, MANY OF THE

1680
00:48:28,305 --> 00:48:32,442
CHILDREN ARRIVED AT THE CAMP

1681
00:48:32,509 --> 00:48:32,976
UNSURE OF THEIR ABILITIES.

1682
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:33,543
>> Soledad: WHAT DO YOU LIKE

1683
00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:35,646
ABOUT CAMP?

1684
00:48:35,712 --> 00:48:37,481
>> THAT EVERYONE IS JUST LIKE

1685
00:48:37,547 --> 00:48:39,082
YOU AND YOU -- THEY CAN'T MAKE

1686
00:48:39,149 --> 00:48:41,885
FUN OF YOU.

1687
00:48:41,952 --> 00:48:42,552
>> Narrator: 11-YEAR-OLD ABBIE

1688
00:48:42,619 --> 00:48:43,620
RIGGINS WAS BORN WITH A

1689
00:48:43,687 --> 00:48:45,589
DEGENERATIVE EYE CONDITION,

1690
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:46,523
WHICH HAD LEFT HER PAINFULLY

1691
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:49,593
SELF CONSCIOUS.

1692
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:51,828
SHE LOVED PLAYING SPORTS, BUT

1693
00:48:51,895 --> 00:48:53,063
THE REACTION OF SOME IN HER

1694
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:54,097
COMMUNITY HAD LARGELY STIFLED

1695
00:48:54,164 --> 00:48:58,201
THAT JOY.

1696
00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:02,873
>> SOMETIMES IN SCHOOL -- WHEN

1697
00:49:02,939 --> 00:49:05,008
WE'RE PLAYING KICK BALL, I

1698
00:49:05,075 --> 00:49:07,377
USUALLY MISS WITH THE BALL

1699
00:49:07,444 --> 00:49:09,546
AND A LOT OF KIDS PICK ON ME.

1700
00:49:09,613 --> 00:49:10,280
SOMETIMES THEY SAY "YOU CAN'T

1701
00:49:10,347 --> 00:49:10,947
PLAY THIS GAME BECAUSE YOU'RE

1702
00:49:11,014 --> 00:49:12,716
BLIND.

1703
00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:13,617
>> Soledad: WHY DO YOU THINK

1704
00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:14,151
PEOPLE THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO

1705
00:49:14,217 --> 00:49:14,885
HAVE VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS CAN'T DO

1706
00:49:14,951 --> 00:49:16,453
THINGS?

1707
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,788
>> 'CAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE

1708
00:49:17,854 --> 00:49:18,422
GONNA GET HURT 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T

1709
00:49:18,488 --> 00:49:19,056
SEE.

1710
00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:22,359
>> Soledad: SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

1711
00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:22,993
>> SOMETIMES I JUST SIT DOWN IN

1712
00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:24,227
A CHAIR.

1713
00:49:24,294 --> 00:49:24,895
>> Soledad: WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE

1714
00:49:24,961 --> 00:49:25,662
HAS GYM?

1715
00:49:25,729 --> 00:49:27,664
>> YEAH.

1716
00:49:27,731 --> 00:49:28,398
>> CHILDREN WITH VISUAL

1717
00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:29,433
IMPAIRMENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO

1718
00:49:29,499 --> 00:49:30,967
TRY EVERYTHING THEIR PEERS TRY

1719
00:49:31,034 --> 00:49:33,236
BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST DON'T

1720
00:49:33,303 --> 00:49:33,870
BELIEVE THAT KIDS WITH VISUAL

1721
00:49:33,937 --> 00:49:34,805
IMPAIRMENTS CAN DO THE SPORTS

1722
00:49:34,871 --> 00:49:37,641
THAT WE SAY THEY CAN DO.

1723
00:49:37,708 --> 00:49:39,643
>> Narrator: LAUREN LIEBERMAN IS

1724
00:49:39,710 --> 00:49:41,578
A PROFESSOR OF ADAPTED PHYSICAL

1725
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:43,013
EDUCATION AND HAS BEEN WORKING

1726
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,448
WITH VISUALLY IMPAIRED CHILDREN

1727
00:49:44,514 --> 00:49:47,451
FOR NEARLY FORTY YEARS.

1728
00:49:47,517 --> 00:49:48,719
SHE TOLD US KIDS LIKE ABBIE WERE

1729
00:49:48,785 --> 00:49:50,454
HARDLY THE EXCEPTION.

1730
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,856
THAT A REPORTED SEVENTY PERCENT

1731
00:49:52,923 --> 00:49:55,125
OF VISUALLY IMPAIRED CHILDREN

1732
00:49:55,192 --> 00:49:56,293
WERE MISSING OUT ON PHYSICAL

1733
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,063
EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS.

1734
00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:01,064
>> A LOT OF THE TEACHERS DON'T

1735
00:50:01,131 --> 00:50:01,832
KNOW A LOT OF THE MODIFICATIONS

1736
00:50:01,898 --> 00:50:02,866
THAT THERE ARE OUT THERE.

1737
00:50:02,933 --> 00:50:04,101
AND A LOT OF THE TEACHERS ARE

1738
00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:04,935
THE ONES THAT ARE AFRAID THEY'RE

1739
00:50:05,001 --> 00:50:05,502
GONNA GET HURT.

1740
00:50:05,569 --> 00:50:06,536
THERE'S SO -- SO MUCH FEAR ABOUT

1741
00:50:06,603 --> 00:50:07,804
LIABILITY.

1742
00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:09,639
OH, THEY'RE GONNA TRIP SOMEONE

1743
00:50:09,706 --> 00:50:11,708
AND WE'RE GONNA GET IN TROUBLE."

1744
00:50:11,775 --> 00:50:12,142
>> LET'S GO, ZACH!

1745
00:50:12,209 --> 00:50:14,845
WOO!

1746
00:50:14,911 --> 00:50:15,979
>> Narrator: SO TO GUARANTEE

1747
00:50:16,046 --> 00:50:17,981
THAT BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED

1748
00:50:18,048 --> 00:50:19,449
KIDS HAD A PLACE TO PLAY,

1749
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:20,350
LIEBERMAN CREATED CAMP

1750
00:50:20,417 --> 00:50:23,387
ABILITIES.

1751
00:50:23,453 --> 00:50:25,055
THERE, THE CHILDREN WERE TAUGHT

1752
00:50:25,122 --> 00:50:30,026
TO SEE THEMSELVES AS ATHLETES,

1753
00:50:30,093 --> 00:50:31,995
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, ONCE THEY

1754
00:50:32,062 --> 00:50:33,597
GOT HOME AFTER THE SUMMER,

1755
00:50:33,663 --> 00:50:35,065
EVERYONE ELSE WOULD START TO SEE

1756
00:50:35,132 --> 00:50:38,602
THEM THAT WAY TOO.

1757
00:50:38,668 --> 00:50:39,302
>> IT'S THE KID'S RESPONSIBILITY

1758
00:50:39,369 --> 00:50:40,704
IN THE END.

1759
00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:41,405
>> Soledad: I THOUGHT YOU WERE

1760
00:50:41,471 --> 00:50:42,038
GONNA SAY THE TEACHER SHOULD BE

1761
00:50:42,105 --> 00:50:43,840
DOING IT.

1762
00:50:43,907 --> 00:50:44,908
>> WE HAVE TO TEACH THE KIDS ALL

1763
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:45,509
THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S POSSIBLE

1764
00:50:45,575 --> 00:50:47,110
FOR THEM.

1765
00:50:47,177 --> 00:50:48,578
WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM HOW TO ASK

1766
00:50:48,645 --> 00:50:54,718
PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH THEM.

1767
00:50:54,785 --> 00:50:57,454
>> Narrator: WHEN I MET ABBIE,

1768
00:50:57,521 --> 00:50:59,923
SHE SHOWED ME HOW, WITH THE

1769
00:50:59,990 --> 00:51:02,692
SIMPLEST EQUIPMENT YOU COULD

1770
00:51:02,759 --> 00:51:03,360
IMAGINE, I COULD JOIN HER FOR A

1771
00:51:03,427 --> 00:51:04,027
RUN.

1772
00:51:04,094 --> 00:51:04,694
>> SO, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, IS

1773
00:51:04,761 --> 00:51:05,429
YOU PUT YOUR TWO FINGERS RIGHT

1774
00:51:05,495 --> 00:51:06,062
BEFORE THE KNOT, AND HOLD ON

1775
00:51:06,129 --> 00:51:06,797
REALLY TIGHT.

1776
00:51:06,863 --> 00:51:07,431
>> Soledad: OKAY, SO --

1777
00:51:07,497 --> 00:51:08,265
>> AND THEN JUST SPREAD OUT A

1778
00:51:08,331 --> 00:51:08,865
LITTLE, AND THEN YOU CAN RUN.

1779
00:51:08,932 --> 00:51:09,566
>> Soledad: GO!

1780
00:51:09,633 --> 00:51:10,200
OH GOSH, YOU ARE FAST!

1781
00:51:10,267 --> 00:51:13,403
>> Narrator: AND A FEW WEEKS

1782
00:51:13,470 --> 00:51:14,137
LATER, AFTER THE START OF THE

1783
00:51:14,204 --> 00:51:15,972
SCHOOL YEAR, SHE WAS ADVOCATING

1784
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:17,774
FOR HERSELF AGAIN, TELLING THE

1785
00:51:17,841 --> 00:51:19,075
SCHOOL'S GYM TEACHERS HOW SHE'D

1786
00:51:19,142 --> 00:51:24,748
FELT LEFT OUT IN YEARS PAST, AND

1787
00:51:24,815 --> 00:51:25,549
HOW THAT COULD CHANGE.

1788
00:51:25,615 --> 00:51:26,450
>> IN SOME GAMES, LIKE KICKBALL,

1789
00:51:26,516 --> 00:51:27,083
A LOT OF KIDS WOULD MAKE FUN OF

1790
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:27,684
ME 'CAUSE I COULDN'T SEE THE

1791
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:28,318
BALL, AND I KICKED, LIKE, THE

1792
00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:29,953
AIR.

1793
00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:30,520
AND SOMETIMES I JUST STOPPED

1794
00:51:30,587 --> 00:51:34,524
PLAYING.

1795
00:51:34,591 --> 00:51:38,061
>> Narrator: NOW, ABBIE HAD HER

1796
00:51:38,128 --> 00:51:45,101
OWN KICKBALL, ONE THAT BEEPED.

1797
00:51:45,168 --> 00:51:45,836
AND FOR ONE AFTERNOON, THE

1798
00:51:45,902 --> 00:51:46,536
STUDENT BECAME THE TEACHER.

1799
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:47,237
>> SOMEONE COULD HIT THE BASKET

1800
00:51:47,304 --> 00:51:47,938
WITH MY CANE, AND I COULD JUST

1801
00:51:48,004 --> 00:51:48,638
LISTEN FOR THAT SOUND AND THEN

1802
00:51:48,705 --> 00:51:49,473
SHOOT.

1803
00:51:49,539 --> 00:51:50,674
>> I'M GONNA TAP THE FRONT OF

1804
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:51,374
THE RIM, YOU'RE PROBABLY FOUR

1805
00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:53,743
FEET AWAY.

1806
00:51:53,810 --> 00:51:54,678
IN.

1807
00:51:54,744 --> 00:51:55,645
BAM.

1808
00:51:55,712 --> 00:52:01,685
NICE SHOT!

1809
00:52:01,751 --> 00:52:03,220
>> Narrator: IT'S THAT EASY TO

1810
00:52:03,286 --> 00:52:04,621
GET BLIND KIDS INVOLVED IN

1811
00:52:04,688 --> 00:52:05,288
ATHLETICS, IT'S ALSO THE LAW.

1812
00:52:05,355 --> 00:52:06,056
>> Narrator: IT'S BEEN MORE THAN

1813
00:52:06,122 --> 00:52:06,623
FOUR DECADES SINCE A FEDERAL

1814
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:09,926
DISABILITY LAW MANDATED THAT

1815
00:52:09,993 --> 00:52:10,627
PUBLIC SCHOOLS PROVIDE AN EQUAL

1816
00:52:10,694 --> 00:52:12,128
PHYSICAL EDUCATION EXPERIENCE

1817
00:52:12,195 --> 00:52:14,831
FOR ALL CHILDREN REGARDLESS OF

1818
00:52:14,898 --> 00:52:17,133
THEIR DISABILITY, YET IN SOME

1819
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,438
COMMUNITIES THAT LAW IS IGNORED.

1820
00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:22,906
>> THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS

1821
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:24,040
SOMETIMES ARE JUST SO AFRAID TO

1822
00:52:24,107 --> 00:52:25,742
ACCOMMODATE THAT CHILD.

1823
00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:26,943
MOST OF THE TIME I TRY TO GO AND

1824
00:52:27,010 --> 00:52:28,211
MEDIATE BEFORE IT GETS THAT FAR.

1825
00:52:28,278 --> 00:52:29,412
BUT I GET EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS

1826
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:32,782
EVERY DAY.

1827
00:52:32,849 --> 00:52:33,750
>> Narrator: AND THE PRACTICE OF

1828
00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,685
SIDELINING BLIND CHILDREN

1829
00:52:35,752 --> 00:52:37,187
CONTRIBUTES TO ANOTHER PROBLEM:

1830
00:52:37,254 --> 00:52:39,890
AS ADULTS, THEY BECOME TWICE AS

1831
00:52:39,956 --> 00:52:44,895
LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM OBESITY

1832
00:52:44,961 --> 00:52:46,863
AND OTHER HEALTH-RELATED ISSUES.

1833
00:52:46,930 --> 00:52:49,699
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE

1834
00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:50,433
LOWER LEVELS OF HEALTH RELATED

1835
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:51,101
PHYSICAL ACTIVITY -- LOWER

1836
00:52:51,167 --> 00:52:51,668
LEVELS OF MOTOR SKILLS THAN

1837
00:52:51,735 --> 00:52:54,137
THEIR SIGHTED PEERS.

1838
00:52:54,204 --> 00:52:54,771
>> Soledad: SO YOU THINK THERE'S

1839
00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:55,605
A REAL CORRELATION BETWEEN WHAT

1840
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:56,439
YOU'RE DOING HERE AND CHANGING

1841
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:57,173
SOME OF THOSE VERY DIRE

1842
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:58,041
STATISTICS?

1843
00:52:58,108 --> 00:53:01,845
>> EXACTLY.

1844
00:53:01,912 --> 00:53:03,146
>> Narrator: THAT'S WHY

1845
00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:04,614
LIEBERMAN HAS EXPANDED CAMP

1846
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,850
ABILITIES OVER THE YEARS, FROM

1847
00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:08,518
HER FIRST CAMP MORE THAN 20

1848
00:53:08,585 --> 00:53:10,420
YEARS AGO, TO 30 CAMPS TODAY,

1849
00:53:10,487 --> 00:53:12,622
SERVING THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN

1850
00:53:12,689 --> 00:53:14,791
ALL AROUND THE WORLD,

1851
00:53:14,858 --> 00:53:15,992
>> CAMP ABILITIES!

1852
00:53:16,059 --> 00:53:18,194
HUAH!

1853
00:53:18,261 --> 00:53:18,862
>> THIS NEXT GENERATION OF KIDS

1854
00:53:18,929 --> 00:53:20,697
IS GOING TO HAVE MUCH BETTER

1855
00:53:20,764 --> 00:53:23,600
MOTOR PERFORMANCE, PHYSICAL

1856
00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:26,169
ACTIVITY AND SKILL LEVELS.

1857
00:53:26,236 --> 00:53:26,970
>> Soledad: SO YOU THINK -- A

1858
00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:28,171
LITTLE KID HERE, WHO NAVIGATES

1859
00:53:28,238 --> 00:53:29,839
THEIR WAY SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH A

1860
00:53:29,906 --> 00:53:30,507
SPORTING EVENT, CAN LITERALLY

1861
00:53:30,574 --> 00:53:31,975
CHANGE THEIR LIFE?

1862
00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,510
>> I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN OVER AND

1863
00:53:33,577 --> 00:53:40,750
OVER AGAIN.

1864
00:53:40,817 --> 00:53:41,885
>> RIGHT BY YOUR KNEE.

1865
00:53:41,952 --> 00:53:42,652
>> Narrator: IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS

1866
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,553
SINCE WE FIRST VISITED CAMP

1867
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:44,287
ABILITIES, AND THE CAMP NOW

1868
00:53:44,354 --> 00:53:45,822
BOASTS AN IMPRESSIVE SUCCESS

1869
00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:46,923
RATE IN TURNING CAMPERS INTO

1870
00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:49,960
ATHLETES.

1871
00:53:50,026 --> 00:53:52,395
A WHOPPING 73 PERCENT OF CAMP

1872
00:53:52,462 --> 00:53:54,397
ALUMNI NOW PLAY AFTER SCHOOL

1873
00:53:54,464 --> 00:53:56,099
SPORTS, AND LAUREN LIEBERMAN

1874
00:53:56,166 --> 00:53:59,202
SAYS THE SIGHTED WORLD IS

1875
00:53:59,269 --> 00:54:00,103
STARTING TO TAKE NOTICE.

1876
00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:03,773
>> PEOPLE ARE SEEING KIDS WITH

1877
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,574
VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS OUT IN THE

1878
00:54:04,641 --> 00:54:05,875
COMMUNITY DOING SPORTS I JUST

1879
00:54:05,942 --> 00:54:07,644
WELL UP, AND I GET THE CHILLS,

1880
00:54:07,711 --> 00:54:09,079
BECAUSE I JUST THINK THIS IS

1881
00:54:09,145 --> 00:54:10,113
GONNA CHANGE PERCEPTIONS OF

1882
00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:12,716
EVERYBODY WHO WENT TO THAT MEET

1883
00:54:12,782 --> 00:54:13,550
OR EVERYBODY WHO WENT TO THAT

1884
00:54:13,617 --> 00:54:17,687
COMPETITION.

1885
00:54:17,754 --> 00:54:18,555
>> Narrator: THOSE KIDS INCLUDE

1886
00:54:18,622 --> 00:54:19,289
A FEW WHO WE FIRST MET SIX YEARS

1887
00:54:19,356 --> 00:54:21,558
AGO.

1888
00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:24,194
LIKE BRAIDEN WINGROVE, WHO BACK

1889
00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:26,096
THEN WAS TAKING HIS FIRST

1890
00:54:26,162 --> 00:54:32,302
TENTATIVE STEPS INTO SPORTS.

1891
00:54:32,369 --> 00:54:36,573
>> GRABBED MY ARM.

1892
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,641
>> Narrator: TODAY, HE'S A

1893
00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:38,441
SURE-FOOTED MEMBER

1894
00:54:38,508 --> 00:54:39,175
OF HIS HIGH SCHOOL'S TRACK AND

1895
00:54:39,242 --> 00:54:40,043
CROSS COUNTRY TEAMS,

1896
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,311
AND ANNEKA PREY, BACK THEN A

1897
00:54:41,378 --> 00:54:45,215
TINY GIRL JUST LEARNING TO BE

1898
00:54:45,281 --> 00:54:47,651
ACTIVE.

1899
00:54:47,717 --> 00:54:48,518
BUT NOW, AT 14, A MEMBER OF HER

1900
00:54:48,585 --> 00:54:49,653
HIGH SCHOOL CROSS COUNTRY TEAM,

1901
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,720
>> A LITTLE BIT MORE!

1902
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:51,421
PERFECT, AND I'M KEEPING YOU

1903
00:54:51,488 --> 00:54:55,725
REAL CLOSE.

1904
00:54:55,792 --> 00:54:56,459
>> Narrator: AND ABBIE RIGGINS,

1905
00:54:56,526 --> 00:54:57,927
A SELF-CONSCIOUS 11-YEAR-OLD

1906
00:54:57,994 --> 00:55:00,130
WHEN WE MET HER, BUT NOW, A

1907
00:55:00,196 --> 00:55:03,033
FEARLESS SKIER AT THE AGE OF 17,

1908
00:55:03,099 --> 00:55:05,535
AND, FOR THAT MATTER, A FEARLESS

1909
00:55:05,602 --> 00:55:06,236
PERFORMER TOO, WHO YOU HAVE TO

1910
00:55:06,302 --> 00:55:08,738
HEAR TO BELIEVE.

1911
00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:10,707
♪ MY HEART IS DRENCHED IN WINE

1912
00:55:10,774 --> 00:55:14,377
♪

1913
00:55:14,444 --> 00:55:15,745
>> Narrator: SHE, LIKE ANNEKA

1914
00:55:15,812 --> 00:55:17,047
AND BRAIDEN, TOLD US THAT SINCE

1915
00:55:17,113 --> 00:55:18,415
BECOMING ATHLETES, THEY'VE

1916
00:55:18,481 --> 00:55:19,549
BECOME MORE CONFIDENT IN THEIR

1917
00:55:19,616 --> 00:55:20,283
ABILITY TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE

1918
00:55:20,350 --> 00:55:24,454
TOO.

1919
00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:25,522
>> I WAS AT A CAMP IN NEW YORK

1920
00:55:25,588 --> 00:55:26,723
CITY THIS SUMMER WHERE I HAD TO

1921
00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:27,924
TAKE THE SUBWAY AND LEARN HOW TO

1922
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:31,528
DO MY OWN LAUNDRY.

1923
00:55:31,594 --> 00:55:33,763
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IF I

1924
00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:35,298
COULD RUN A -- THREE MILES IN 23

1925
00:55:35,365 --> 00:55:38,134
MINUTES AND 19 SECONDS, WHY NOT

1926
00:55:38,201 --> 00:55:39,102
HAVE ME JUST LEARN HOW TO LIVE

1927
00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:40,937
ON MY OWN?

1928
00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:41,705
>> Soledad: AND HOW ABOUT FOR

1929
00:55:41,771 --> 00:55:44,374
YOU, ABBIE?

1930
00:55:44,441 --> 00:55:46,209
>> SPORTS HAS REALLY GIVEN ME

1931
00:55:46,276 --> 00:55:49,512
THE DESIRE TO PUSH MYSELF BEYOND

1932
00:55:49,579 --> 00:55:51,881
MY EXPECTATION, AND NOW I'M ABLE

1933
00:55:51,948 --> 00:55:53,349
TO COOK MY OWN MEALS AND FEEL

1934
00:55:53,416 --> 00:55:56,286
COMFORTABLE DOING IT.

1935
00:55:56,352 --> 00:55:58,722
I THINK I'VE DEFINITELY COME A

1936
00:55:58,788 --> 00:55:59,189
LONG WAY.

1937
00:55:59,255 --> 00:55:59,889
>> Soledad: HOW ABOUT FOR YOU,

1938
00:55:59,956 --> 00:56:00,757
ANNEKA?

1939
00:56:00,824 --> 00:56:01,357
WHAT HAS SPORTS DONE FOR YOU?

1940
00:56:01,424 --> 00:56:01,958
>> IT'S GIVEN ME-PRIDE IN

1941
00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:04,160
MYSELF.

1942
00:56:04,227 --> 00:56:04,894
I FEEL LIKE I -- ACCOMPLISH

1943
00:56:04,961 --> 00:56:05,328
SOMETHING.

1944
00:56:05,395 --> 00:56:05,829
>> HARD RIGHT!

1945
00:56:05,895 --> 00:56:06,830
HARD RIGHT!

1946
00:56:06,896 --> 00:56:08,765
HARD RIGHT!

1947
00:56:08,832 --> 00:56:09,799
>> Narrator: IN FACT, ANNEKA'S

1948
00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:10,767
NEWFOUND CONFIDENCE PROMPTED HER

1949
00:56:10,834 --> 00:56:12,936
TO GO OUT AND GET A JOB.

1950
00:56:13,002 --> 00:56:14,370
SHE WORKS AT A GENERAL STORE,

1951
00:56:14,437 --> 00:56:15,271
CLEANING THE FLOORS AND LABELING

1952
00:56:15,338 --> 00:56:20,376
ITEMS FOR SALE.

1953
00:56:20,443 --> 00:56:21,778
>> I'M ONLY 14, SO SOME BLIND 14

1954
00:56:21,845 --> 00:56:22,312
YEAR OLDS PROBABLY AREN'T

1955
00:56:22,378 --> 00:56:24,013
WORKING NOW, SO.

1956
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,181
>> Soledad: SOME SIGHTED 14 YEAR

1957
00:56:25,248 --> 00:56:25,749
OLDS ARE NOT WORKING, NOR

1958
00:56:25,815 --> 00:56:27,984
RUNNING CROSS COUNTRY.

1959
00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:29,519
SO I -- I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE KIND

1960
00:56:29,586 --> 00:56:30,186
OF AT THE HEAD OF THE PACK

1961
00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:32,322
THERE.

1962
00:56:32,388 --> 00:56:33,890
>> Narrator: WHICH IS WHERE ALL

1963
00:56:33,957 --> 00:56:34,491
THREE CAMP ALUMNI HOPE TO END

1964
00:56:34,557 --> 00:56:36,826
UP.

1965
00:56:36,893 --> 00:56:38,228
THEY SAY THEY'RE NO LONGER

1966
00:56:38,294 --> 00:56:40,163
CONTENT JUST TO PARTICIPATE.

1967
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:41,297
NOW, THEY SAY, THEY WANT TO

1968
00:56:41,364 --> 00:56:43,967
EXCEL.

1969
00:56:44,033 --> 00:56:44,534
AND BRAIDEN'S ALREADY ON HIS

1970
00:56:44,601 --> 00:56:45,935
WAY.

1971
00:56:46,002 --> 00:56:47,670
SINCE JOINING HIS TEAM, HE'S

1972
00:56:47,737 --> 00:56:51,241
IMPROVED HIS PERSONAL BEST TIME

1973
00:56:51,307 --> 00:56:52,208
BY 12 MINUTES.

1974
00:56:52,275 --> 00:56:53,977
>> IF I DIDN'T HAVE SPORTS, I

1975
00:56:54,043 --> 00:56:54,544
WOULD -- I WOULD NOT BE AS

1976
00:56:54,611 --> 00:56:56,412
COMPETITIVE AS I AM TODAY.

1977
00:56:56,479 --> 00:56:57,347
>> Soledad: I THINK THAT'S THE

1978
00:56:57,413 --> 00:56:57,947
BIGGEST SHIFT I'VE SEEN SINCE

1979
00:56:58,014 --> 00:56:59,649
I'VE LAST SEEN YOU GUYS.

1980
00:56:59,716 --> 00:57:00,717
ABBIE'S KNOCKING THINGS OFF HER

1981
00:57:00,784 --> 00:57:03,553
TO-DO LIST LEFT AND RIGHT.

1982
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:05,188
ANNEKA'S SETTING HER RECORDS AND

1983
00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:06,489
YOU'VE DECIDED YOU'RE A

1984
00:57:06,556 --> 00:57:09,292
COMPETITOR.

1985
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,694
>> YES, INDEED.

1986
00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:16,499
♪ ♪

1987
00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:17,267
>> Bryant: A QUICK POST-SCRIPT

1988
00:57:17,333 --> 00:57:18,001
-- BRAIDEN AND ABBIE ARE BOTH

1989
00:57:18,067 --> 00:57:20,003
SET TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL AT

1990
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:21,304
THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, AND

1991
00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:22,572
EMBOLDENED BY THEIR SUCCESS AT

1992
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:23,706
CAMP AND IN SPORTS, BOTH PLAN TO

1993
00:57:23,773 --> 00:57:25,375
ATTEND COLLEGE.

1994
00:57:25,441 --> 00:57:25,975
BRAIDEN IS FOCUSED ON COMPUTER

1995
00:57:26,042 --> 00:57:28,144
PROGRAMMING.

1996
00:57:28,211 --> 00:57:30,013
ABBIE, MEANWHILE, PLANS TO STUDY

1997
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:31,181
EDUCATION, IN THE HOPES OF ONE

1998
00:57:31,247 --> 00:57:32,182
DAY TEACHING BLIND KIDS LIKE

1999
00:57:32,248 --> 00:57:33,650
HERSELF.

2000
00:57:33,716 --> 00:57:34,317
AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS

2001
00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:35,885
EVENING.

2002
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:36,653
FOR ALL THE GOOD FOLKS HERE AT

2003
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:37,187
"REAL SPORTS," I'M BRYANT

2004
00:57:37,253 --> 00:57:38,188
GUMBEL.

2005
00:57:38,254 --> 00:57:38,822
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING

2006
00:57:38,888 --> 00:57:39,556
WITH US.

2007
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:40,323
PLEASE STAY SAFE, AND GOOD

2008
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:42,025
NIGHT.

2009
00:57:42,091 --> 00:57:48,765
♪ ♪

2010
00:57:48,832 --> 00:57:49,833
♪ ♪