1 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 You'll be so cosy. 2 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Just so you know, I've emptied 3 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,200 Poppy's baby grows from the washing 4 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,880 machine and put a load of nappies in. 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,360 OK. 6 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,640 I've also fed her, 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,120 bathed her, changed her, 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 sung to her. 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,240 Right. 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,480 So could you watch her now, please? 11 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,280 Matt, could you watch her, please? 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,760 There's Captain Stripes - 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,720 she loves him. 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Oh, my head's splitting. 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,400 What? 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,560 What kind of splitting? 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Just the usual. 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,640 OK. Do we need to call someone? 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,760 No, I just need to lie down. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,600 BABY COOS 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,080 You see, now I get it. 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Pardon? Where you get those glutes from. 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Oh, right, yeah. Well, they were pretty weedy before. 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Oh, I doubt that. No, they were. 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,360 I joined a gym to try and buff up a bit 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,520 but I kind of stopped going. 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,920 I think I went once in three months. 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,560 Yeah, yeah, I'm the same, it'such a waste of time. 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,960 I mean, how are we going to get our 30 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:48,720 beach bodies for summer, eh? 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,120 I can think of a few ways. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Easy, tiger. 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,200 I was talking about lifting weights at home. 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Yeah, of course you were. 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,760 You got to get yourself some dumbbells. 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 So you reckon Max-Lift adjustable dumbbells? 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Only if you think you're man 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,480 enough to lift them. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Hi. Hi. 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Oh, they're full of the joys. 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Mind you, I heard you laughing last night, 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,040 albeit rather loudly. 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Sorry. Did I keep you up? 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Was that Courtney? 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,480 My dad. Ah, is he all right? 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Yeah. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Really good. He sounded like... 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,200 actually happy. 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Any particular reason? 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,040 I think just helping my Aunt Liz in the shop. 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Makes him feel like he's got 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,600 something to get up for in the morning. 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,920 A sense of purpose. Yeah. 54 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:30,640 I mean, that and a wage packet. 55 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,240 Yes, also very important. 56 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 I could almost hear him smiling on the phone. 57 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Aw that's very sweet. 58 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,920 But it's also nice seeing you smiling as well. 59 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,560 Thanks. 60 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,400 I do worry about him though, like, 61 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,760 if the work dries up and then he falls back into debt. 62 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Will you stop worrying about him? 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 This is your time now, without guilt, 64 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,640 to have some proper fun, please. 65 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,520 OK. 66 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,880 BABY CRIES 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Why haven't you picked her up? 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Have you checked her nappy? 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,240 What are you actually doing, Matt? 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,800 She's been crying her heart out. 71 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Handle's wobbly. 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,320 It's been like that for months. 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,480 And now I'm fixing it. 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,880 I'll see to her in a minute. 75 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,080 She's safe, isn't she? 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Doesn't stop you giving her a hug. 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Yeah, well, you do things your way, 78 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,080 I do things mine. 79 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Have you thought about that new dads 80 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,280 group I showed you on the laptop? 81 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,200 I've got too much to do. 82 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Right. 83 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Well, I'll have to take her to the doctors with me, then. 84 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,200 Shush, shush, shush. 85 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 And if all you're doing is DIY, 86 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,960 you might as well get back into work 87 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,560 and get paid for it. 88 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Can I just check everyone else is signed in? 89 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Yes? Thank you. Good. 90 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Ah, Damien. 91 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Can we also just thank Damien for the butties? 92 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Thank you very much. Yes, thank you, Damien. 93 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,600 I was worried there'd be a "Do Not Feed The Dads" sign. 94 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Ah, well, luckily not. 95 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,600 So, hello, everyone. 96 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,360 My name is Ruhma, this is Doctor Sid Vere. 97 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Most of you know us from the Mill Health Centre 98 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,760 but I know some of your partners 99 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,000 from my walking group. 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Thanks for coming everyone. 101 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,880 I hope today isn't too daunting. 102 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,760 Look, today is really just about being a dad, 103 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,160 getting some exercise and getting a 104 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,120 bit of moral support. You know? 105 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,320 Now I am a parent, so I know all about, 106 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,280 well, what it's like to be caught 107 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,560 up in that daily slog. 108 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,520 I know it is relentless. 109 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,280 Which is why we think it's a good idea 110 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:33,880 to get together with other people in 111 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 the same boat and just do some activities, 112 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 share some parenting stories. 113 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,240 You know, as a way of getting moving and having a bit of a laugh. 114 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,960 So we're going to start by having 115 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,600 a little stroll in the park. 116 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,200 What I want you to do is to partner up with someone 117 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,040 and I want you to tell them your 118 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 best parenting tip. 119 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,360 Sounds good to me. Thank you. 120 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Hey, come on, what's not to like, 121 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,760 walking round the park with a few blokes? 122 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,720 It's hard enough getting five minutes in the garden 123 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,200 without some baby-related incident. 124 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Absolutely. Thank you, Damien. 125 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Yeah, we're just going to get a bit of a breather 126 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,360 and we're going to maybe learn something. 127 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,040 OK, so let's go, let's go. 128 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Damien, have you done this kind of thing before? 129 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 No, no, I just like the idea of it. 130 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,880 We want the best for our kids, don't we? 131 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Listen, would you do me a favour? 132 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Would you mind going and saying hello to Jun? 133 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Jun, yeah. Thanks, mate. 134 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,680 KAREN LAUGHS 135 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,280 Oh, my days. 136 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,440 I'm sorry. 137 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,680 My house has just officially gone on the market. 138 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,040 It's all right, I'm not going to be 139 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,760 chucking you out just yet. 140 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,760 I wasn't worried. Yeah, you were. 141 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,760 No, I wasn't. Tell your face! 142 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,920 Look at you two. 143 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Those lovely smiles. 144 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,000 All right, what are you after? 145 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Nothing, Karen. I've just had a few 146 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,040 difficult patients this morning. 147 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,280 And seeing your happy faces has brightened up my day. 148 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:22,680 Do you think he's always like this? 149 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,080 I think he's trying to be nice. 150 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,480 I'm not, I'm being serious. 151 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Mr Penworth. 152 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Honestly, you're both a breath of fresh air. 153 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Are you for real? 154 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Ooh, harsh. 155 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Drama queen as well, then? 156 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Please, never let me get on the wrong side of you. 157 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,720 Don't worry, I wouldn't even let 158 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,960 you on the right side. 159 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,080 You sure about that? Positive. 160 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,280 Well, that is a shame, Scarlett. 161 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,240 All right, I suppose it is a bit 162 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,560 weird being thrown together with a 163 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,600 bunch that you might not have that much in common with. 164 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Apart from being dads. True. 165 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Maybe I'm just no good at the socialising stuff. 166 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,480 Hey, lots of us aren't. 167 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Bet you're better at nappies than I am. 168 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,240 What do you mean? 169 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Oh, well, once I took my son 170 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,840 Kai to see his gran, my mum. 171 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,560 She literally throws the nappy at me 172 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,720 and says "Right, show me what you're made of." 173 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,000 What, your new dad skills? 174 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Show off my new dad skills, exactly. 175 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,200 So, here's me fiddling about, trying 176 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,560 to get the thing on straight and she 177 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,160 snatches the nappy off me and says, 178 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,720 "Look, Damien, it's easy, if his 179 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,320 "legs turn blue it's too tight, 180 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,360 "if they turn yellow it's too loose." 181 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,680 Do you two mind if I, erm... 182 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,920 How many kids have you got, Jun? 183 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Two boys, one and three. 184 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,840 And an antenatal appointment coming 185 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,440 up, got another one on the way. 186 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Ah, congratulations. Thanks. 187 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,920 God, you've got loads of experience. 188 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Yeah, but I'm still learning. 189 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,120 That's why you're here. 190 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,440 My wife persuaded me. 191 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,320 She thinks I'm not sociable enough. 192 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,760 And you want to make her happy. 193 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Of course. I'm the same with Alicia. 194 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,440 I hope it helps. 195 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,160 It's hard sometimes. 196 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Chaotic sometimes. 197 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,880 And wonderful. 198 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Here's to that. 199 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Go on, up top. 200 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Yeah. 201 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,800 Do you drink, Jun? Occasionally. 202 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,000 All right. So I think me and you, 203 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,840 we should go out and get a beer sometime. 204 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,920 You can tell me all about 205 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 the toddler years. Right? Uh. 206 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,560 Sounds good. 207 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,120 So, we're going to go in and play some games, 208 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,840 we'll just get to know each other. 209 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 And when everybody's in there, we'll start. 210 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,240 If that's OK, if that seems all right to you. 211 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Yeah? Any questions? 212 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,440 Well, great, all right, then. 213 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Lovely. Well, I'll see you in a minute. 214 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 All right, OK. 215 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Hi. Can I help you? 216 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,680 Erm, I'm here for the dads group. 217 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:38,720 Oh, right, well, you're in the right place. 218 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,120 I'm Ruhma. Yeah, Matt. 219 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Hello. Lauren Wilde's partner. 220 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Ah, right. Do you want to come and join us? 221 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,240 I'm probably too late. 222 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,800 No, not at all, you're more than welcome. 223 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,440 I didn't bring Poppy with me. 224 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,960 My daughter. That doesn't matter. 225 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Some of the others, they're on their own. 226 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,440 Right. Do you know, it's just a bit of fun, 227 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Matt, we're going to play some games. 228 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,960 There's a nappy tournament, which 229 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,880 erm, it's better than it sounds. 230 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,320 And then we're going to maybe 231 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,960 do a... Mind if I just watch? 232 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. 233 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,800 So we got one of those on our hands, have we? 234 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,360 What? 235 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,560 An office flirt. 236 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,400 Oh. 237 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,240 He keeps it very light-hearted, it's just banter. 238 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Ah. OK. 239 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Although, with certain people... 240 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,240 ..he seems to be making a bit more of an effort. 241 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,520 I see. 242 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,240 What? Talking about Suni. 243 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Oh. 244 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,080 And how he's taken a certain shine to someone. 245 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,600 He does it to everyone, all right? 246 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Yeah, but it's mostly you. Rubbish. 247 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,560 He is good looking though, isn't he? 248 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,160 Really? I hadn't noticed. 249 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Give it a rest. 250 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,080 You don't think he's cute then? 251 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,880 No, I didn't say that, but... 252 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,280 So you do think he's cute? 253 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Ah, leave me alone. 254 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,720 LAUGHTER AND CHATTER 255 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,360 WHISTLE BLOWS Congratulations, Jun, you did 256 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,440 that in a total of 8.4 seconds! 257 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Oh, come on, that's an absolute fix! 258 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,720 How did you do that? 259 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Not your thing? 260 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,400 No, not really. 261 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,360 OK. well, you see Jun over there? 262 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,040 He was exactly the same when he got here today. 263 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Just doesn't seem much point. In what? 264 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,160 Like, racing to put on nappies or whatever. 265 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,840 Oh, right. Well, you will be 266 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,440 surprised how useful it is to put 267 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,880 a nappy on in record time. 268 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Especially when you've got a screaming baby, Matt. 269 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,040 It's what being a dad's all about. 270 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Yeah, but it doesn't make you a 271 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,400 better dad though, does it? 272 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,400 No, I agree there's more to it than that but 273 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,960 these games, they help you meet 274 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 dads in a similar situation. 275 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,280 WHISTLE BLOWS 276 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Nice one. 277 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,800 We have Raphael, who did it in 12 seconds flat. 278 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,400 How's the little one? 279 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Gorgeous. 280 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Absolutely no trouble - 281 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,200 apart from the baby poo and the 282 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,520 baby sick and the sleepless nights. 283 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,440 Yeah, comes with the territory. 284 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,800 I don't mind. 285 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,720 She cheers me up when I'm feeling... 286 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,480 ..well, you know. Yeah. 287 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,200 And how have you been feeling? 288 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Pretty good on the whole. 289 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Sometimes it's a bit tough. 290 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Yea, you've been through a lot, 291 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Lauren, it's going to take time. 292 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,320 It's really good to see you walking again. 293 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Yeah, even though... 294 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,200 Yeah, but you are stronger every 295 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,240 time I see you and that's the main thing. 296 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,320 I know. 297 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,280 So, you're keeping up with your physio exercises? 298 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Great. 299 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,360 OK. So, your blood pressure is a little high. 300 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Really? But it's absolutely fine. 301 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,280 It's perfectly manageable. 302 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,440 I can increase your dose of 303 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,960 Labetalol from 50mg to 100mg, twice 304 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,080 a day as before, and you should soon see a difference. 305 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,560 Never ends, does it? 306 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,960 So this is really about you 307 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,480 sharing tips with each other. 308 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 What you think is the best way to 309 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,800 bathe your baby. 310 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,160 Like the safest way to hold them? 311 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,040 Yeah, yeah. So what you what you would need, 312 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,560 how you would do it. 313 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:02,600 And then I want you to compare it with the other team. 314 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,560 And I just, I want you to learn from each other. 315 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:05,880 No racing? 316 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,520 No racing on this one, Jun. 317 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,240 It's a really relaxing thing, 318 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,720 to bathe your baby. 319 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,760 Once you get used to it and it gives 320 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,840 your partner a break. 321 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 It's a great way to bond and being 322 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,040 hands-on from the start, that is a very important thing. 323 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,800 So, Matt, why don't you go with Jun and Damien? 324 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,560 And another person in that team and 325 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:26,960 the rest of you are on this table. 326 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Right. 327 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Right. That is your prescription 328 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,080 sent through to your pharmacist. Thanks. 329 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,560 And you say you're continuing with your rehab? 330 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,280 Yes. Great. 331 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,520 We need to try and find a way to 332 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,360 keep your blood pressure down. 333 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,560 I have a three-month-old baby. 334 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,040 Absolutely, but you need also to 335 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,640 look after yourself. 336 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,880 It's that simple? Hmm. 337 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Poppy will benefit as well. 338 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,400 The thing is at your stage of recovery, 339 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,960 your motor skills are still weak, so 340 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,680 you need to adapt how you care for her. 341 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,480 I'm really careful. 342 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Of course you are but you're still a little bit shaky. 343 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,600 So we need to make sure that you're 344 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,200 not changing her on a high surface, 345 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 just in case you drop her. 346 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,080 To make sure you get help picking 347 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,520 her up out of the buggy. 348 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,000 And bathing her, you know, 349 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,200 just when you're tired and just for now. 350 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Is Matt around or is he back at work now? 351 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,040 He's still at home. Oh. 352 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,000 And he's being supportive? 353 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,840 All right, let's go through the order again. 354 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Erm, you make sure the room's warm, 355 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,760 then you get everything ready. 356 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Erm, baby wipes, towels, nappy, clothes, 357 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,800 then you run the bath. 358 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Making sure the water's the right 359 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,160 depth and temperature. 360 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Which is...? 361 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,680 For new-borns, eight to ten 362 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:49,200 centimetres high and 37 degrees. 363 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 What, you use a thermometer? 364 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Yeah. 365 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Yeah, Lauren uses her elbow. 366 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,280 She says it's more sensitive than your hand. 367 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,280 You can do that as well. 368 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Then you need to know how to gently 369 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,640 put the baby into the water. 370 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Mine hated it at first 371 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,680 but he soon got used to it. 372 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:06,960 I'm going to note some of this down. 373 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,480 You can hold the baby's head and 374 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,800 shoulders with one hand to keep them still. 375 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,080 Then you can use the other hand to swish water. 376 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Yeah, Lauren does that too. 377 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Do you leave all of this to your wife, mate? 378 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,000 It's good to talk to them while you're bathing them. 379 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Your voice is really comforting. 380 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,040 Hey... 381 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,280 ..hello, Kai. 382 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,680 Daddy's washing your tummy now. 383 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Daddy's washing your little hands and feet. 384 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Don't worry, I get like that too. 385 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,040 I can't put him down sometimes. 386 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,320 I was so proud of Alicia when she 387 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,560 delivered him and then I saw him and... 388 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,200 Both our deliveries were easy 389 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 and once I saw their scrunched up little faces... 390 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Aw, totally smitten! 391 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,080 He's not sitting around doing nothing? 392 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,840 No, he's busy... 393 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,960 ..just not with us. Ah. 394 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,680 He's literally going round the house 395 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,600 looking for things to fix - 396 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,720 leaky taps, uneven walls, 397 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 noisy pipes. Hmm. 398 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Is this new? 399 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Well, he is a builder. 400 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Yeah, yes. 401 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,480 It's getting ridiculous. 402 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,200 And you say he's withdrawn. 403 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Since Poppy. 404 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Have you noticed anything else, like, 405 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 irritability, negativity, 406 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 not sleeping? 407 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,800 All of them. Hmm. 408 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,960 He doesn't seem to want to see his mates. 409 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Look, Matt's behaviour could be 410 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,080 related to a number of things. 411 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Could be your traumatic delivery, 412 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,680 could be post-natal depression 413 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,520 or even a thyroid disorder. 414 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,360 How open do you think he'd be about 415 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,200 coming to see us here for an appointment? 416 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Thank you all for coming. 417 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 I'm so impressed that everybody joined in. 418 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Eventually. Yeah. 419 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Yeah, I hope you all got something out of today, 420 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,040 something you can use at home. 421 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Yeah, thanks to you and Ruhma. 422 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Aw, thank you. 423 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Oh, yes, if anyone wants to join the 424 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,680 group chat do let me know, it's a 425 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,600 ready-made support group. 426 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,080 Would it be all right if I took a 427 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,480 photo of the group? 428 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Yeah? Everyone happy with that? 429 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Squeeze in here. OK, lovely. 430 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,920 So, bunch up, everybody. 431 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Bunch up, bunch up and say "Nappies!" 432 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,840 ALL: Nappies! 433 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Beautiful. 434 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Let's have a look at that. 435 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Really nice photo. 436 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Damien, we didn't quite catch you in there. 437 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,920 That was a great session, thank you. 438 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Apart from crashing out in the old nappy race. 439 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,160 You weren't that far behind. 440 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Thank you, it was a good morning. 441 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Thanks for helping out with him earlier. 442 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,280 He was definitely more cheerful by the end of it. 443 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Yeah, yeah, considering. 444 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,480 What do you mean? 445 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Well, after what he's been through. 446 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,960 His wife kicked him out. 447 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,400 He's not going home to her, he's 448 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,040 going home to a grubby little bedsit. 449 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,160 I didn't realise. 450 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Yeah, she's stopped all contact. 451 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,440 He hasn't seen his kid in months. 452 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Mate, that's awful. 453 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,640 But I tried to encourage him. 454 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,080 I told him he's a good dad and he'll 455 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,600 have contact with his son again. 456 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,400 Yeah, but you can't know that for sure. 457 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,000 I can. 458 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,280 He's got to. 459 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,240 Poor guy. 460 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,920 Probably came here to prepare himself. 461 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,800 You know, just in case they get back together. 462 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,480 Anyway, Doc, thanks for everything. 463 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,080 You're very welcome, Damien. 464 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,520 Oh, and erm, mum's the word yeah, about Jun? 465 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Matt. 466 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Hi. 467 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,360 Hi. So, how did you find it? 468 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,520 Yeah, it was all right. 469 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,240 I mean, I know how to bathe a baby properly. 470 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Oh, different from how you do it now? 471 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,360 OK, so Lauren's been doing it. 472 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,640 It's difficult for her. 473 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,960 She had a stroke after giving birth to Poppy. 474 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Yeah, I heard. I'm sorry. 475 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,720 Yeah, she had pre-eclampsia while she was pregnant 476 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,080 and then her blood pressure shot 477 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 through the roof during the delivery and she got a blood clot. 478 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,440 It settled but it left her with hemi... 479 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,040 ..paralysed down her right side. 480 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Yeah, hemiplegia. Yeah. 481 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,520 But she's recovering now. 482 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,760 She's walking again. 483 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Yeah, which is good. 484 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 So, did you find it helpful 485 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,240 talking to any other dads? 486 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,640 I noticed it's obviously very easy 487 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,960 for them, like, with their kids. 488 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,240 I doubt it. I don't think it's 489 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,320 an easy ride for anyone. 490 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Some easier than others. How do you mean? 491 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,400 I mean they're all really into their babies. 492 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,760 What, and you're not? 493 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,200 Listen, erm... 494 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,200 ..I would love to talk to you a bit more. 495 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,360 So why don't you come back in, 496 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,800 have another cup of coffee 497 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,240 and I'll give you first dibs on the biscuits? 498 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Please. 499 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Yeah, OK. 500 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Thanks. Come on. 501 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,240 Karen, stop! 502 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,600 Sorry, but I was just thinking about 503 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,880 what we said this morning, 504 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,400 that it's time you had some fun. 505 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,520 What are you on about? 506 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,080 You know exactly what I'm talking about. 507 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,680 He was... 508 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,120 He was just messing around. 509 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,640 Well, I'm not so sure. 510 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,280 And you could do a lot worse. 511 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Whatever. All right, whatever. 512 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,360 But if you do invite him round, 513 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,640 will you let me and Rob know 514 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,040 so we can get our earplugs in? 515 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,160 You're not talking about Suni are you? 516 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,880 Don't take him seriously. 517 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,960 It's all chat, it's just his sense of humour. See? 518 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,480 What did I tell you? 519 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Oh, he seemed pretty keen to me. 520 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,640 Honestly, it means nothing. 521 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,040 He just wants to get on with 522 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,880 everyone, that's all. 523 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Hope you don't mind but, erm... 524 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,160 ..Ruhma mentioned Lauren's had a stroke recently. 525 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Yeah. 526 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,360 I'm really sorry. It must be a 527 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,480 stressful time for you both. 528 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,880 Damien brought enough biscuits 529 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,880 to last for weeks. 530 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,360 Matt, I get the impression that 531 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,440 since Lauren's stroke you've found 532 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,880 it hard to bond with Poppy? 533 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,800 No. 534 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,720 It's not that, it's just Poppy needs her mum. 535 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,320 She's unlikely to be discriminate. 536 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,040 I think both of you interacting with 537 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,520 her regularly is better than one person. 538 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,920 No, you don't get it. 539 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,520 As long as Poppy depends on Lauren, 540 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,440 then Lauren has a reason to recover. 541 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Matt, if you back off too much 542 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,440 and leave everything to her, then 543 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,120 the less time she can devote to recovering. 544 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:36,440 Yeah, I'm a bad partner as well as a 545 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,840 dad, tell me something I don't know. 546 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Nobody said that. 547 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Yeah, but it's true, isn't it? 548 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,880 You've witnessed the person you love 549 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 go through a horrific ordeal. 550 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,640 So don't underestimate how traumatic 551 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,000 that's been for you. 552 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,920 And from what you're saying and from what I'm hearing, 553 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,480 I think it's possible that you're 554 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 suffering from post-natal depression. 555 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,880 It wasn't me who gave birth. 556 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,440 No, but it is a lot more 557 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,280 common than you think. 558 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,720 I mean, lots of fathers suffer from 559 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,160 depression once a child comes along. 560 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,680 I'm not that type. 561 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,480 There's no type, Matt. 562 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,160 You've had a huge upheaval in your life. 563 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,760 It might be worth you making 564 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,920 an appointment at The Mill. 565 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,680 You know, we can talk about it more there. 566 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,400 And just know that helping yourself 567 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,320 means helping Lauren and Poppy. 568 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Everything, everything that you 569 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,640 have talked to us about today... 570 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,400 ..Matt, you need to communicate that with Lauren. 571 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,960 You're doing it again. 572 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,840 What? Showing off those glutes. 573 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,760 I mean, this is becoming a bit of a regular thing. 574 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,240 Or maybe the regular thing is you 575 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,600 turning up at these moments. 576 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,720 Happy coincidence but I'm not complaining. 577 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Well, you know what they say - 578 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,520 if you've got it, flaunt it. 579 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,280 Glad you two are getting to know each other. 580 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,840 He started it. 581 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Right, better be getting on. 582 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,080 You seem to have clicked. 583 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,760 DOOR SHUTS 584 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Where've you been? 585 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,120 I left messages, I've been really worried. 586 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,480 I'm sorry. 587 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,920 I need your help and you just disappear. 588 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,680 I know. 589 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,760 I went to that group... 590 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,120 ..that dad's group. 591 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,280 Why? 592 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Because you wanted me to. 593 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Was it helpful? 594 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,840 If you can call mucking about helpful. 595 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Well, did you talk to anyone nice? 596 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Depends what you mean by nice. 597 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,880 What did the doctor say? 598 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,840 My blood pressure's up again. 599 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,920 He's adjusted my medication. 600 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,360 And we talked about you. 601 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,960 I know you won't like this but... 602 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Dr Granger thinks you might be 603 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,440 struggling to cope after Poppy's birth. 604 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,440 Do you think you might be? 605 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,400 It's you who's been struggling. 606 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 It's OK, you know? 607 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,880 If you're feeling down... 608 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,040 No, it's, erm... 609 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,960 ..no, it's not just that. 610 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Like, some of the guys today were talking about 611 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,920 how close they were to their babies. 612 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,160 You know? 613 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,120 Like, lifting them up, holding them, 614 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:29,960 smelling them. 615 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520 They seemed really into it. 616 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080 It's what happens. 617 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Not to me. 618 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,400 Could that be the depression speaking? 619 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,720 But it's you she needs. 620 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,040 No. 621 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,160 It's not just me! 622 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,480 You're her dad! 623 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Hey. 624 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,720 Erm... 625 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 ..I just can't get that image out of my head... 626 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,760 ..at the hospital. 627 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,240 Erm... 628 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,160 ..Poppy had just been born and I was... 629 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,240 I was so proud of you. 630 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,280 I know. 631 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,720 And then... 632 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,720 And then you said you felt sick. 633 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,680 And you got confused. 634 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,600 And... 635 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,680 ..then you couldn't feel your arm or leg. 636 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960 And you started slurring, Lauren. 637 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,680 And I just kept thinking, if it wasn't for Poppy... 638 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,840 That's not her fault. 639 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,680 That's no-one's fault. 640 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Matt, you can't link that memory 641 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,760 to your daughter, it's not fair. 642 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280 You need to get some help for this. 643 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,160 I know. 644 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,640 Yeah, I know. 645 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Hey... 646 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,880 you know that baby thing, with the.. 647 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,200 ..the lifting and the smelling and all that? Mm-hm. 648 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,320 You should try it. 649 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Mm-hm. 650 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440 POPPY COOS 651 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Hey, I thought that went really well today. 652 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Aw, thanks. 653 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Put me down to stay involved, please. 654 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,040 That's great. 655 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,000 And those games definitely helped. 656 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240 Well, that is what I hoped. 657 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,480 Apparently, men are more open when 658 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,240 they're active and not being forced 659 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,880 into scary eye contact. 660 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Oh, well, it certainly worked with Damien. 661 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,200 Yeah, he seemed sorted, didn't he? 662 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520 I mean, he's got such a lovely relationship 663 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440 with his son, Kai. 664 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,920 It is always good to have 665 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,000 a happy dad in a group. 666 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,400 I'm Marissa, Jamie's mum. 667 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,720 Jamie's told me all about you. 668 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,880 I want to bring something new to the Mill, peer review. 669 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Oh. Really? 670 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,160 Don't look at me. 671 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,880 And? And what? 672 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,400 What do I think of him? 673 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,680 This isn't about me, this is about my patient. 674 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,040 But if you won't give me his name... 675 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,480 That has to be his decision. 676 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Then how am I supposed to help?!