1 00:00:01,434 --> 00:00:03,197 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:03,269 --> 00:00:06,932 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:07,006 --> 00:00:08,132 In New York City, 4 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:10,972 the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies 5 00:00:11,043 --> 00:00:14,707 are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit. 6 00:00:14,781 --> 00:00:16,749 These are their stories. 7 00:00:18,952 --> 00:00:22,319 Yeah. Okay, thanks. Come on. 8 00:00:24,124 --> 00:00:25,557 Go, go, go! 9 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:42,163 Police! NYPD! We have a search warrant! 10 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:45,634 What the hell? 11 00:00:46,312 --> 00:00:47,711 Somebody got here before us. 12 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:50,408 Secure it. I don't want any surprises. 13 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:52,413 Too late. 14 00:01:00,393 --> 00:01:02,224 I better call in SVU. 15 00:01:02,595 --> 00:01:05,029 We are not handing this bust over to them. 16 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:08,691 Don't worry. I got a buddy. 17 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:10,829 Better be good. 18 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:12,929 Anonymous phone tip said somebody was dealing. 19 00:01:13,006 --> 00:01:16,498 We surveilled a week, caught a lot of traffic in and out of this place. 20 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:21,946 Get our warrant, bust in, find our alleged dealer sliced and diced. 21 00:01:22,015 --> 00:01:25,507 Signs of burglary, and by her appearance I'm guessing she's been raped, too. 22 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:29,988 But, you know, I wanted a trained SVU detective like yourself on the case. 23 00:01:30,056 --> 00:01:32,581 Rape-homicide falls on SVU no matter what. 24 00:01:32,659 --> 00:01:35,184 You didn't have to hand it to me personally. 25 00:01:35,261 --> 00:01:38,094 There's a big haul here. Looks good for my guys to turn it in. 26 00:01:38,164 --> 00:01:41,565 Yeah, right. You get all the glory and we get all the work. 27 00:01:41,634 --> 00:01:46,037 So you trying to tell me that Laura Ashley here is some kind of big kingpin? 28 00:01:46,105 --> 00:01:47,572 Where are the drugs? 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,198 You didn't get the complete tour. 30 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:02,111 Over two hundred plants. 31 00:02:02,188 --> 00:02:04,486 Pull in a couple of hundred thou on the street. 32 00:02:06,392 --> 00:02:08,359 Perp missed the jackpot. 33 00:02:58,792 --> 00:03:02,387 M.E. estimates TOD yesterday between 9:00 a. m. And 2:00 p. m. 34 00:03:02,463 --> 00:03:04,988 Looked like about 30 to 40 stab wounds. 35 00:03:05,065 --> 00:03:06,327 Overkill. 36 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,833 He either knew her well enough to hate her or he's psychotic. 37 00:03:09,903 --> 00:03:11,666 Point of entry looks like the fire escape window. 38 00:03:11,739 --> 00:03:13,604 Perp probably waltzed out the front door. 39 00:03:13,674 --> 00:03:16,108 Got minimal fluids from the rape kit, but enough to test. 40 00:03:16,176 --> 00:03:17,302 You locate a murder weapon? 41 00:03:17,377 --> 00:03:18,435 Must've taken it with him. 42 00:03:18,512 --> 00:03:20,480 Three-inch, single-edged, non-serrated blade. 43 00:03:20,547 --> 00:03:22,674 About the size of the knife missing from this? 44 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:24,945 Yeah. The other weapon he left behind. 45 00:03:26,587 --> 00:03:28,714 Bashed in the back of her head before he stabbed her. 46 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:31,417 Probably enough to knock her out. No defensive wounds. 47 00:03:31,492 --> 00:03:33,858 It's not the most obvious weapon. 48 00:03:33,927 --> 00:03:35,827 So she surprises him. 49 00:03:36,797 --> 00:03:38,628 Probably picked up the first thing he could grab. 50 00:03:38,699 --> 00:03:41,998 Then he walks all the way across the apartment for a knife? 51 00:03:42,069 --> 00:03:43,502 This guy's logic is all over the place. 52 00:03:43,570 --> 00:03:45,595 Maybe he's mentally ill. Or high. 53 00:03:45,672 --> 00:03:48,334 He covered Mrs. Oestreicher with this. 54 00:03:48,408 --> 00:03:52,708 By the amount of blood on the blanket, I'd say right after he stabbed her. 55 00:03:52,780 --> 00:03:56,807 So afterwards he gets remorseful, embarrassed? 56 00:03:56,884 --> 00:03:58,374 And then sick. 57 00:04:00,954 --> 00:04:03,081 Our guy must have thrown up. 58 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:05,185 It's too far away to be the victim's. 59 00:04:05,259 --> 00:04:06,521 Okay, let's send a sample to the M.E. 60 00:04:06,593 --> 00:04:09,357 We can compare it to the stomach contents of our victim, just to be sure. 61 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:10,487 I love my job. 62 00:04:10,564 --> 00:04:12,031 What do we know about this anonymous phone tip? 63 00:04:12,099 --> 00:04:13,589 Narcotics traced it to a neighbor. 64 00:04:13,667 --> 00:04:15,931 Said she's nosy, but not homicidal. 65 00:04:16,003 --> 00:04:18,402 I thought anonymous tip meant anonymous. 66 00:04:18,472 --> 00:04:20,633 Like nobody would bug you about doing your civic duty. 67 00:04:20,707 --> 00:04:22,174 We certainly don't mean to inconvenience you. 68 00:04:22,241 --> 00:04:24,904 But there was a woman murdered in your building. 69 00:04:24,978 --> 00:04:26,536 I know. I'm sorry about that. 70 00:04:26,613 --> 00:04:29,241 But you live that kind of life, you're asking for it. 71 00:04:29,316 --> 00:04:30,908 And what kind of life is that? 72 00:04:30,984 --> 00:04:33,976 Criminal. You should've been here when she was sparking up. 73 00:04:34,054 --> 00:04:35,351 Just walking down the hall you'd get a buzz. 74 00:04:35,422 --> 00:04:37,447 Marc, get in there and brush those teeth now. 75 00:04:37,524 --> 00:04:39,219 So you reported Mrs. Oestreicher 76 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:43,059 as a drug dealer because you smelled dope. That was the only reason? 77 00:04:43,130 --> 00:04:45,428 What about the daily Easter parade? 78 00:04:45,499 --> 00:04:49,731 In and out of there, people banging on the door all hours of the day. 79 00:04:49,803 --> 00:04:53,637 Did you ever actually see any of these deals, any money changing hands? 80 00:04:53,707 --> 00:04:57,575 No. No, but if she wasn't selling, I don't know where she got her money. 81 00:04:57,644 --> 00:05:00,169 She hasn't worked a day in over a year. 82 00:05:00,247 --> 00:05:01,646 Autopsy's done. 83 00:05:01,715 --> 00:05:04,343 So are the preliminary labs on the fluids from the rape kit. 84 00:05:04,418 --> 00:05:05,851 Anything interesting? 85 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:07,284 Your perp had no sperm. 86 00:05:07,354 --> 00:05:09,345 Interesting and pathetic. 87 00:05:09,423 --> 00:05:13,086 I'm not talking low sperm count. This is azoospermia. 88 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,425 Zero sperm in the ejaculate. It's pretty rare. 89 00:05:16,496 --> 00:05:18,293 So our guy got a vasectomy. 90 00:05:18,365 --> 00:05:20,128 That's one explanation for it. 91 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,000 It's also a sign of Kartagener's Syndrome and Cystic Fibrosis. 92 00:05:24,071 --> 00:05:27,336 The lab can still extract DNA from the skin cells in the sample. 93 00:05:27,407 --> 00:05:28,931 And they're analyzing the vomit. 94 00:05:29,009 --> 00:05:30,476 We know who puked? 95 00:05:30,544 --> 00:05:34,071 Victim hadn't eaten in hours, so it had to come from your perp. 96 00:05:34,147 --> 00:05:36,081 As far as Miss Oestreicher is concerned, 97 00:05:36,149 --> 00:05:39,175 I suspect she would have died within the year, had she not been murdered. 98 00:05:39,253 --> 00:05:40,481 What was wrong with her? 99 00:05:40,554 --> 00:05:42,454 Advanced ovarian cancer. 100 00:05:42,522 --> 00:05:45,355 She has small radiation burns on the skin of her abdomen, 101 00:05:45,425 --> 00:05:47,985 and blood tests reveal Taxol and carboplatin. 102 00:05:48,061 --> 00:05:49,619 She was undergoing chemotherapy. 103 00:05:49,696 --> 00:05:51,596 That explains why she didn't have a job. 104 00:05:51,665 --> 00:05:53,633 And why she was growing pot. 105 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,760 Must have been using it to counteract the side effects of the cancer treatment. 106 00:05:56,837 --> 00:05:59,203 Decent levels of THC in her system. 107 00:05:59,273 --> 00:06:01,070 But that woman was growing a forest in there. 108 00:06:01,141 --> 00:06:03,109 You think she was toking on all that by herself? 109 00:06:03,176 --> 00:06:04,200 Maybe she wasn't. 110 00:06:04,278 --> 00:06:06,803 You know, medicinal marijuana clubs are popping up everywhere. 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,247 People are pooling their resources, growing their own stuff. 112 00:06:10,317 --> 00:06:12,478 Better product without having to pay street prices. 113 00:06:12,552 --> 00:06:15,487 Well, if she's running a club, then there has to be a membership list. 114 00:06:19,860 --> 00:06:21,350 How many people we looking at? 115 00:06:21,428 --> 00:06:23,123 According to her day planner, nearly 100. 116 00:06:23,196 --> 00:06:25,596 But there's no names. She only writes initials. 117 00:06:25,666 --> 00:06:28,726 We got C. K. Down the second Monday of every month. 118 00:06:28,802 --> 00:06:30,565 J. A. S. Every other Saturday. 119 00:06:30,637 --> 00:06:33,197 Probably a schedule. Members take turns tending the crop. 120 00:06:33,273 --> 00:06:34,831 Why the hell you know so much about it? 121 00:06:34,908 --> 00:06:38,071 Twenty-five years on the job and he's still a damn hippie. 122 00:06:38,145 --> 00:06:41,808 Okay, I got the phone dumps from Susan Oestreicher for the past six months. 123 00:06:41,882 --> 00:06:44,578 We got to match the names with the initials and weed out the potheads. 124 00:06:44,651 --> 00:06:46,812 Find one club member, might lead us to the rest. 125 00:06:46,887 --> 00:06:49,583 Convincing somebody to turn over that list is not going to be easy. 126 00:06:49,656 --> 00:06:53,319 People looking at a narcotics rap tend to be real cooperative. 127 00:06:53,393 --> 00:06:55,691 Threatening cancer patients. Now, that's why I became a cop. 128 00:06:55,762 --> 00:06:58,595 They're breaking the law. I don't care how sick they are. 129 00:06:58,665 --> 00:07:02,066 Do you have any idea why cannabis is illegal in this country? 130 00:07:02,135 --> 00:07:04,035 Because William Randolph Hearst's paper mills 131 00:07:04,104 --> 00:07:05,503 were threatened by the hemp industry. 132 00:07:05,572 --> 00:07:07,938 And that's got nothing to do with the fact that it's a drug. 133 00:07:08,008 --> 00:07:09,498 What do you call alcohol and tobacco? 134 00:07:09,576 --> 00:07:11,009 Legal. 135 00:07:11,078 --> 00:07:12,340 Here we go. 136 00:07:12,412 --> 00:07:14,744 For the initials C. K., we've got a Cindy Kerber. 137 00:07:14,815 --> 00:07:20,344 C. K. C. K. Charles Kelsey, Christian Kessler. This is going to be fun. 138 00:07:20,420 --> 00:07:21,546 We'll run them all down. 139 00:07:21,621 --> 00:07:24,488 If they had access to the victim, they're all suspects. 140 00:07:27,995 --> 00:07:29,986 We know about your club, Miss Kerber. 141 00:07:30,063 --> 00:07:32,054 Then I assume you found what we were growing. 142 00:07:32,132 --> 00:07:34,327 Pretty tough to miss. You guys have very green thumbs. 143 00:07:34,401 --> 00:07:36,801 We're not hurting anyone and we're not making a profit. 144 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:38,770 We are investigating a murder. 145 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,706 Now, all we need are the other names of the members in the club. 146 00:07:41,775 --> 00:07:43,572 The rest is between us. 147 00:07:43,643 --> 00:07:46,111 I don't know most of the people involved. We don't socialize. 148 00:07:46,179 --> 00:07:47,840 Give us the names of the people you do know. 149 00:07:47,914 --> 00:07:49,643 I'm sorry. I can't. 150 00:07:49,716 --> 00:07:51,343 This woman was raped. 151 00:07:51,418 --> 00:07:52,976 She was stabbed 38 times. 152 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:56,580 You don't want to help us in our investigation? That is very strange to me. 153 00:07:56,656 --> 00:07:58,647 Because it wasn't anyone in the club. 154 00:07:58,725 --> 00:08:02,627 Some of these people were debilitated from nausea, from chemotherapy. 155 00:08:02,696 --> 00:08:07,395 The only thing that controls my tremors from M. S. is smoking once in a while. 156 00:08:07,467 --> 00:08:09,492 Why would we kill the woman who was helping us? 157 00:08:09,569 --> 00:08:12,299 Maybe she was helping the wrong person. 158 00:08:12,372 --> 00:08:15,432 Somebody's sick, doesn't make them an angel. 159 00:08:15,509 --> 00:08:20,242 There was some trouble with this one woman, Becky. Not her, really. Her husband. 160 00:08:20,313 --> 00:08:22,247 What kind of trouble? 161 00:08:22,315 --> 00:08:26,877 He threatened Sue. Said she hooked his wife on drugs. 162 00:08:26,953 --> 00:08:29,421 Becky was dying from metastatic breast cancer, 163 00:08:29,489 --> 00:08:31,889 and he wouldn't allow her the tiniest bit of relief. 164 00:08:31,957 --> 00:08:33,925 Well, do you think that he's capable of murder? 165 00:08:33,994 --> 00:08:35,654 I know his own wife was afraid of him. 166 00:08:35,728 --> 00:08:40,324 Especially after he broke some guy's back in a bar fight. Went to jail for it. 167 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:41,832 I wouldn't touch that bitch. 168 00:08:41,901 --> 00:08:45,463 Isn't it refreshing to hear such militant adherence to the "Just Say No" philosophy? 169 00:08:45,539 --> 00:08:46,563 It's so rare in convicts. 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,335 That incident was an accident. 171 00:08:48,408 --> 00:08:51,969 I did five years inside, and now my wife's dead. 172 00:08:52,045 --> 00:08:54,309 I paid the price. Go bother somebody else. 173 00:08:54,381 --> 00:08:55,814 No, we're bothering you, Mr. Paglione. 174 00:08:55,882 --> 00:08:58,612 You got an awful lot of hate for the woman who was trying to comfort your wife. 175 00:08:58,685 --> 00:09:00,414 Yeah, that's a real beautiful story. 176 00:09:00,487 --> 00:09:04,446 Until one of you comes to my house and finds drugs and busts me for parole violation. 177 00:09:06,059 --> 00:09:10,325 I was working from 6:00 in the morning to 4:00, and no lunch break. 178 00:09:11,665 --> 00:09:13,223 And that's all I'm saying. 179 00:09:18,004 --> 00:09:20,336 We'll see you back at the house. 180 00:09:21,274 --> 00:09:23,265 Munch says the husband's alibi checks out. 181 00:09:23,343 --> 00:09:24,867 This membership list is getting smaller. 182 00:09:24,945 --> 00:09:27,209 Half these people are either dead or too weak to get out of bed. 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,874 Maybe we're going down the wrong path with this pot club. 184 00:09:31,351 --> 00:09:35,151 No, I just can't buy that the murder and the drugs are a coincidence. 185 00:09:35,222 --> 00:09:38,089 Susan Oestreicher's neighbor thought she was a drug dealer. 186 00:09:38,158 --> 00:09:39,989 What if somebody else thought so, too? 187 00:09:41,194 --> 00:09:43,560 An M.E. out of the morgue? Must be big. 188 00:09:43,630 --> 00:09:45,461 Captain Cragen told me you were here. 189 00:09:45,532 --> 00:09:48,524 Lab finished analyzing the vomit from the crime scene. 190 00:09:48,602 --> 00:09:51,230 Hey, am I gonna want to stop eating before I hear this? 191 00:09:51,304 --> 00:09:55,968 Pieces of roast beef, a little mozzarella cheese, kernels of corn and raisins. 192 00:09:56,042 --> 00:09:58,010 Luckily, they hadn't been in the stomach very long, 193 00:09:58,078 --> 00:09:59,875 so everything was only partially digested. 194 00:09:59,946 --> 00:10:01,709 Yeah, I'm done. 195 00:10:01,781 --> 00:10:04,147 And this is good news because? 196 00:10:04,217 --> 00:10:06,117 My daughter's in the sixth grade. 197 00:10:06,186 --> 00:10:10,213 She had that exact meal for lunch at school on the day of the murder. 198 00:10:10,290 --> 00:10:13,748 I've got the menu on the fridge. I called the Board of Ed. 199 00:10:13,827 --> 00:10:17,285 Every middle school in Manhattan serves the same lunch. 200 00:10:20,066 --> 00:10:21,556 No sperm in the ejaculate. 201 00:10:23,036 --> 00:10:25,004 We're looking for a kid. 202 00:10:28,407 --> 00:10:30,398 Are we buying in to this juvenile theory? 203 00:10:30,476 --> 00:10:31,943 Well, it makes sense. 204 00:10:32,010 --> 00:10:35,377 The disorganization of the crime scene indicates an immature thought process. 205 00:10:35,447 --> 00:10:38,644 The number of stab wounds could mean he has no real understanding of physiology. 206 00:10:38,717 --> 00:10:41,277 He just kills the way he thinks that you're supposed to kill. 207 00:10:41,353 --> 00:10:43,480 The rape. Sexual curiosity. 208 00:10:43,555 --> 00:10:46,080 Well, we know the kid went to school that day long enough to have lunch, 209 00:10:46,158 --> 00:10:47,989 so he must've cut out afterwards. 210 00:10:48,060 --> 00:10:50,858 Well, we're not canvassing every junior high in the city, 211 00:10:50,929 --> 00:10:55,298 and I'm not waiting for a DNA analysis of the puke, so let's hear suggestions. 212 00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:59,030 Okay, we're looking for a boy who has a history of fights in school. 213 00:10:59,104 --> 00:11:01,732 Minor vandalism with risk-taking behavior. 214 00:11:01,807 --> 00:11:03,240 Sounds like every teenage boy on the planet. 215 00:11:03,308 --> 00:11:05,674 I know. It's not much to go on. 216 00:11:05,744 --> 00:11:08,269 But adolescent behavior is inherently unpredictable. 217 00:11:08,347 --> 00:11:10,315 That's why mental health care professionals 218 00:11:10,382 --> 00:11:13,579 won't label a child a sociopath even if he fits the definition. 219 00:11:13,652 --> 00:11:16,314 So the profile's wide open. What else? 220 00:11:16,388 --> 00:11:17,912 Juvies stay with the familiar. 221 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:19,981 Maybe the victim knew this kid. 222 00:11:20,058 --> 00:11:21,753 And even if she didn't, he's likely to commit 223 00:11:21,827 --> 00:11:23,556 the crimes in his own comfort zone. 224 00:11:23,629 --> 00:11:25,688 The neighbor who phoned in the tip to Narcotics. 225 00:11:25,764 --> 00:11:27,254 Her son looked about 13, right? 226 00:11:27,332 --> 00:11:32,770 That was Mrs. Lesinski and her son Marc. 227 00:11:33,439 --> 00:11:36,704 Maybe he listens to Mom rail about the drug dealer down the hall, 228 00:11:36,775 --> 00:11:38,436 he figures he can get himself some free dope. 229 00:11:38,510 --> 00:11:41,536 And get some cash for a new Xbox while he's at it. 230 00:11:41,613 --> 00:11:43,103 Check him out. 231 00:11:43,515 --> 00:11:46,279 Look, I told you, Marc didn't see who killed her. 232 00:11:46,351 --> 00:11:47,784 He was in school. 233 00:11:47,853 --> 00:11:48,979 You're sure about that? 234 00:11:49,054 --> 00:11:50,112 Of course I am. 235 00:11:50,189 --> 00:11:52,487 And the school calls if he skips class? 236 00:11:52,558 --> 00:11:53,923 What exactly are you asking? 237 00:11:53,992 --> 00:11:56,426 Mrs. Lesinski, we need to speak with Marc right now. 238 00:11:56,495 --> 00:11:57,757 You think he could have done this? 239 00:11:57,830 --> 00:11:59,764 He is a child. Are you crazy? 240 00:12:00,532 --> 00:12:03,990 Has Marc bought anything that he doesn't have the money for? 241 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:05,058 No. 242 00:12:05,137 --> 00:12:07,196 Have you seen him with... 243 00:12:07,272 --> 00:12:09,672 Seen him with anything expensive that you didn't give him? 244 00:12:10,742 --> 00:12:13,506 He said it was a present from a friend. 245 00:12:13,579 --> 00:12:15,308 Come on over here. Show it to us, will you? 246 00:12:20,052 --> 00:12:21,542 An MP3 player. 247 00:12:22,821 --> 00:12:24,880 Must be a very good friend to be so generous. 248 00:12:24,957 --> 00:12:28,449 No, the kid's a total geek. He's always giving stuff to people. 249 00:12:28,527 --> 00:12:30,324 Oh. This total geek have a name? 250 00:12:30,395 --> 00:12:32,158 Jeremy Brice. 251 00:12:32,231 --> 00:12:33,823 Mmm-hmm. Where do you think Jeremy got that? 252 00:12:35,467 --> 00:12:38,368 Did you tell him that you had a drug dealer living down the hall from you? 253 00:12:38,437 --> 00:12:39,563 Yeah. What'd you say? 254 00:12:40,973 --> 00:12:44,636 I said that she's probably got some pretty cool stuff, you know, 'cause she deals. 255 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:48,373 So don't you think it's possible that he got it from Mrs. Oestreicher's place? 256 00:12:48,447 --> 00:12:50,039 I don't know, maybe. 257 00:12:50,115 --> 00:12:52,015 But there's no way Jeremy killed her. 258 00:12:53,185 --> 00:12:54,914 Well, how do you know that? 259 00:12:54,987 --> 00:12:56,648 He's just not that cool. 260 00:12:59,024 --> 00:13:01,322 It is almost 8:00. Everybody's already left. 261 00:13:01,393 --> 00:13:03,418 Let's pull him out of school. 262 00:13:05,264 --> 00:13:07,926 Liv. Liv. Kids waiting for the bus. 263 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:15,605 Hi, guys. Anyone know Jeremy Brice? 264 00:13:15,674 --> 00:13:16,800 Who? 265 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:17,899 Jeremy Brice. 266 00:13:17,976 --> 00:13:19,034 There. 267 00:13:21,046 --> 00:13:22,479 You Jeremy? 268 00:13:24,049 --> 00:13:25,414 Relax, relax, relax, Jeremy. 269 00:13:25,484 --> 00:13:26,610 I didn't do anything! 270 00:13:26,685 --> 00:13:28,880 We're the police. We want to talk to you. Just relax. 271 00:13:28,954 --> 00:13:32,412 Jeremy, that looks like blood. 272 00:13:32,491 --> 00:13:34,721 No, it isn't. 273 00:13:34,793 --> 00:13:37,318 We're going down to the police station, Jeremy, all right? 274 00:13:37,396 --> 00:13:38,522 Where are your parents? 275 00:13:38,597 --> 00:13:40,462 I have to go to school. I have to... 276 00:13:43,635 --> 00:13:46,365 You made a mistake. Jeremy was in school all day. 277 00:13:46,438 --> 00:13:47,564 We checked, Mrs. Brice. 278 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:50,767 Jeremy's teachers told us that he was absent after lunch. 279 00:13:50,842 --> 00:13:52,207 You skipped school? 280 00:13:52,277 --> 00:13:53,505 No. 281 00:13:53,579 --> 00:13:56,878 Jeremy? Jeremy, look at me a second. 282 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:00,245 You know you're not supposed to lie to the police, right? 283 00:14:00,319 --> 00:14:01,377 I'm not lying. 284 00:14:01,453 --> 00:14:04,217 Where'd you get the MP3 player you gave to your buddy Marc? 285 00:14:06,258 --> 00:14:08,158 I gave him that for his birthday. 286 00:14:12,497 --> 00:14:14,397 Do you know a lady named Susan Oestreicher? 287 00:14:14,466 --> 00:14:15,558 No. 288 00:14:15,634 --> 00:14:19,126 You sure? She's the woman that lives right next door to Marc. 289 00:14:19,204 --> 00:14:21,604 Jeremy, you went into that apartment, 290 00:14:21,673 --> 00:14:23,834 and something bad happened there, didn't it? 291 00:14:23,909 --> 00:14:25,672 I didn't go anywhere. 292 00:14:25,744 --> 00:14:29,703 Jeremy, these are your fingerprints that your mom let us take when you got here. 293 00:14:31,583 --> 00:14:33,107 Remember that? 294 00:14:35,654 --> 00:14:39,112 These are the ones that we found in Miss Oestreicher's apartment. 295 00:14:41,059 --> 00:14:42,890 They're exactly the same. 296 00:14:42,961 --> 00:14:44,258 No, they're not. 297 00:14:44,329 --> 00:14:48,129 They are. This tells me you were in that apartment. 298 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,565 No, it doesn't. 299 00:14:49,635 --> 00:14:52,001 Jeremy, what happened? 300 00:14:52,070 --> 00:14:55,699 Nothing. Why is everybody picking on me? 301 00:14:58,543 --> 00:15:00,568 We'll take another crack at him once he calms down. 302 00:15:00,646 --> 00:15:02,307 Well, we know he was in the apartment. 303 00:15:02,381 --> 00:15:05,509 Once the labs come back on the forensic evidence, we won't need a confession. 304 00:15:05,584 --> 00:15:06,676 A typical kid. 305 00:15:06,752 --> 00:15:09,050 Thinks if he denies everything, it'll just go away. 306 00:15:09,121 --> 00:15:12,284 He's 14. Eligible to be tried as an adult. 307 00:15:12,357 --> 00:15:15,554 Murder two. Would've been eligible if he was 13. 308 00:15:15,627 --> 00:15:17,117 He look like a grownup to you? 309 00:15:17,195 --> 00:15:20,164 He brutally raped and murdered a 34-year-old woman. 310 00:15:20,232 --> 00:15:21,256 That's a grownup crime. 311 00:15:21,333 --> 00:15:24,029 He's not crying for his victim, he's crying for himself. 312 00:15:24,102 --> 00:15:26,093 Guess you can't blame him. His life is over. 313 00:15:26,171 --> 00:15:30,540 Labs are back. Blood on Jeremy's coat matched the victim's type. 314 00:15:30,609 --> 00:15:32,167 Sounds like your job is done. 315 00:15:32,244 --> 00:15:33,472 No. We're not that lucky. 316 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:36,343 Lab's determined that the rapist's blood was a type B. 317 00:15:36,415 --> 00:15:38,508 I got Jeremy's from his school. He's type O. 318 00:15:38,583 --> 00:15:40,346 He had a partner. Yeah. 319 00:15:40,419 --> 00:15:42,319 No sperm, so it's got to be another kid. 320 00:15:42,387 --> 00:15:44,321 Well, what about that neighbor's boy? 321 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:45,913 Well, I checked him. He didn't skip school 322 00:15:45,991 --> 00:15:48,255 and went to basketball practice afterwards. 323 00:15:48,326 --> 00:15:52,160 Can we hold off on charging Jeremy as an adult till we get the story straight? 324 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:55,165 Well, he's 14, so he's automatically arraigned in Supreme Court. 325 00:15:55,233 --> 00:15:57,133 But if you can prove to me he wasn't the primary actor, 326 00:15:57,202 --> 00:15:59,227 I will recommend he be removed to Family Court. 327 00:15:59,304 --> 00:16:00,999 Find out who his friends are. 328 00:16:05,143 --> 00:16:08,078 We're no strangers to police inquiring about some of our students, 329 00:16:08,146 --> 00:16:10,910 but I am surprised to hear you're investigating Mr. Brice. 330 00:16:10,982 --> 00:16:12,813 Jeremy's not a troublemaker? 331 00:16:12,884 --> 00:16:14,818 I don't know him, so I guess not. 332 00:16:14,886 --> 00:16:16,786 1,500 students, Detectives. 333 00:16:16,855 --> 00:16:18,482 I only got time for the bad eggs. 334 00:16:18,557 --> 00:16:20,923 You're saying he's a model student, then. 335 00:16:20,992 --> 00:16:25,429 Academically, yes. He does very well. Especially in math and art. 336 00:16:25,497 --> 00:16:30,161 But he was recently diagnosed as dyslexic, and according to his file, 337 00:16:30,235 --> 00:16:34,001 his fifth grade teacher cited social problems made him repeat the year. 338 00:16:34,072 --> 00:16:35,801 What kind of social problems? 339 00:16:35,874 --> 00:16:38,399 Well, I spoke with Jeremy's teachers this morning, 340 00:16:38,477 --> 00:16:40,911 and he's a little behind maturity-wise. 341 00:16:40,979 --> 00:16:42,810 He has some trouble fitting in. 342 00:16:42,881 --> 00:16:45,816 But again, nothing to suggest any serious discipline problems. 343 00:16:45,884 --> 00:16:48,409 Teachers give you the names of Jeremy's friends? 344 00:16:48,487 --> 00:16:49,977 That's the thing, no one knew. 345 00:16:50,055 --> 00:16:51,647 Seems he really doesn't have any. 346 00:16:53,625 --> 00:16:56,594 We're going to need a list of all the boys that were absent the day of the murder, 347 00:16:56,661 --> 00:16:59,027 and we're going to need your permission to search their lockers. 348 00:17:07,139 --> 00:17:09,799 I find any dead animals in here, I'm going to deputize you for this. 349 00:17:09,875 --> 00:17:11,035 Got him. 350 00:17:11,107 --> 00:17:12,201 What'd you find? 351 00:17:12,277 --> 00:17:13,938 Susan Oestreicher. 352 00:17:19,017 --> 00:17:20,847 And the weapon that killed her. 353 00:17:22,386 --> 00:17:23,979 This is a surprise. 354 00:17:24,055 --> 00:17:28,491 Locker 142 belongs to Zachary Connor, a sixth-grader. 355 00:17:29,161 --> 00:17:31,925 I'll get his schedule and we'll find him in his next class. 356 00:17:31,997 --> 00:17:34,158 I think he found us already. 357 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:36,528 What happened to my locker? 358 00:17:42,538 --> 00:17:44,665 Zachary Connor is 12 years old. 359 00:17:44,741 --> 00:17:47,608 I tell you, I've been on this job a long time, some things still surprise me. 360 00:17:47,677 --> 00:17:49,406 You'll get over it. His parents coming in? 361 00:17:49,479 --> 00:17:51,242 They should be here any minute. 362 00:17:51,314 --> 00:17:53,578 We're going on 12 hours holding Jeremy Brice. 363 00:17:53,650 --> 00:17:55,447 He and his mother are still in interrogation. 364 00:17:55,518 --> 00:17:59,921 And they're staying until we know his exact involvement in this woman's death. 365 00:17:59,989 --> 00:18:01,547 Munch is still at the crime lab. 366 00:18:01,624 --> 00:18:04,149 CSU lifted three sets of prints off of that knife. 367 00:18:04,227 --> 00:18:07,458 One unknown, one the victim's, and one belonging to Jeremy. 368 00:18:07,530 --> 00:18:11,626 Captain, these are Zachary Connor's parents. 369 00:18:11,701 --> 00:18:13,794 Mr. And Mrs. Connor, thank you for making it down. 370 00:18:13,870 --> 00:18:16,498 Nobody's told us anything. Is Zach all right? 371 00:18:16,572 --> 00:18:17,698 Well, he's fine. Fine. 372 00:18:17,774 --> 00:18:20,208 We think he might know something about a crime. 373 00:18:20,276 --> 00:18:21,971 Now, Ted here will get you settled, 374 00:18:22,045 --> 00:18:24,707 and in a minute a detective will explain everything to you. 375 00:18:24,781 --> 00:18:27,306 He's never been in trouble before, Captain. Not once. 376 00:18:32,588 --> 00:18:34,647 Is that true? No trouble with this boy? 377 00:18:34,724 --> 00:18:37,056 Straight As. Not a mark on his school record. 378 00:18:38,161 --> 00:18:39,822 Let's go easy on this. 379 00:18:39,896 --> 00:18:42,160 Finesse them. See if one turns on the other. 380 00:18:42,231 --> 00:18:43,721 Fin, you take Zachary and his parents. 381 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,132 You guys take another run at Jeremy. 382 00:18:46,202 --> 00:18:48,796 Set up video cameras and monitors in both rooms. 383 00:18:48,871 --> 00:18:51,066 I'll call in Cabot and Huang to observe. 384 00:18:52,342 --> 00:18:54,902 Remember where you were day before yesterday, Zachary? 385 00:18:54,978 --> 00:18:56,741 At school. And then I went home. 386 00:18:56,813 --> 00:18:58,644 You there all day? Yeah. 387 00:18:58,715 --> 00:18:59,943 Well, I talked to your teachers, 388 00:19:00,016 --> 00:19:02,985 and they said that you missed all your classes after lunch. 389 00:19:03,052 --> 00:19:04,576 I was in the library. 390 00:19:05,288 --> 00:19:06,983 I had to study for a math test. 391 00:19:07,056 --> 00:19:08,683 He does have a big test coming up. 392 00:19:08,758 --> 00:19:11,283 Okay. You know Jeremy Brice? 393 00:19:11,361 --> 00:19:12,555 He's a seventh-grader. 394 00:19:12,628 --> 00:19:13,686 Friend of yours? 395 00:19:13,763 --> 00:19:15,060 No. I don't like him. 396 00:19:15,965 --> 00:19:18,490 You didn't hang out with him at all day before yesterday? 397 00:19:18,568 --> 00:19:21,036 No. He's dorky. And he's a bully. 398 00:19:22,638 --> 00:19:23,798 You got a knife, Zach? 399 00:19:23,873 --> 00:19:24,965 A what? 400 00:19:26,109 --> 00:19:27,508 You mean the one in my locker. 401 00:19:27,577 --> 00:19:29,169 Where'd you get it? 402 00:19:29,846 --> 00:19:33,282 I found it in the dumpster behind the school. And the wallet, too. 403 00:19:33,349 --> 00:19:35,374 What were you looking for in the garbage? 404 00:19:36,753 --> 00:19:38,584 Well, sometimes they throw out cool things. 405 00:19:38,654 --> 00:19:40,417 Once I found new markers. 406 00:19:40,490 --> 00:19:41,821 Yeah, that is cool. 407 00:19:41,891 --> 00:19:45,793 So why'd you take the knife and wallet and put them in your locker? 408 00:19:45,862 --> 00:19:47,227 I was gonna turn them in. 409 00:19:47,296 --> 00:19:50,424 I thought someone lost them. But then I forgot. 410 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,229 Did you know there was blood on that knife? 411 00:19:52,301 --> 00:19:53,768 Oh, my God. 412 00:19:53,836 --> 00:19:55,804 I thought it was fake. 413 00:19:55,872 --> 00:19:59,000 But you should ask Jeremy. He told me where to find it. 414 00:20:00,443 --> 00:20:02,206 So, Jeremy, you want a drink? 415 00:20:02,278 --> 00:20:03,711 No. I want to go home. 416 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:04,872 Well, I know you do. 417 00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:08,075 But the reason that we have to stay here is because you're not telling us the truth. 418 00:20:08,151 --> 00:20:09,584 Yes, I am. 419 00:20:09,652 --> 00:20:12,485 Jeremy, we picked up your friend Zachary at school today. 420 00:20:13,589 --> 00:20:14,988 Zach's here? 421 00:20:15,058 --> 00:20:17,151 He's right in the next room, speaking to one of our detectives. 422 00:20:18,561 --> 00:20:20,495 What do you think he's going to say? 423 00:20:22,031 --> 00:20:23,293 Nothing. 424 00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:25,892 I think he might. 425 00:20:27,904 --> 00:20:29,667 Look, I know you don't want to get him in trouble, 426 00:20:29,739 --> 00:20:32,606 but you've got to tell us what happened. 427 00:20:32,675 --> 00:20:36,133 Even if it's something that's really, really bad, you've got to tell us. 428 00:20:40,883 --> 00:20:42,680 Zach's my best friend. 429 00:20:42,752 --> 00:20:45,516 You can't make me say he did something bad. 430 00:20:45,588 --> 00:20:47,818 He didn't do anything. 431 00:20:50,693 --> 00:20:52,285 Jeremy's in for a rude awakening. 432 00:20:52,361 --> 00:20:53,953 His best friend's about to flip on him. 433 00:20:55,031 --> 00:20:57,932 What I find hard to believe is how a kid as young as Zachary 434 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,695 is physically capable of rape. 435 00:20:59,769 --> 00:21:03,535 Biologically, all he needs is enough testosterone to achieve an erection. 436 00:21:03,606 --> 00:21:06,575 These days, boys reach puberty as early as nine years old. 437 00:21:06,642 --> 00:21:09,634 Add to that an ill woman, weakened by chemotherapy. 438 00:21:09,712 --> 00:21:12,681 She's the perfect victim for a 90-pound rapist. 439 00:21:12,748 --> 00:21:14,511 You think he did it? 440 00:21:15,685 --> 00:21:17,175 I think he's lying. 441 00:21:17,253 --> 00:21:20,916 He keeps changing his story so that it's just plausible enough to be true. 442 00:21:20,990 --> 00:21:22,480 He's involved. 443 00:21:25,661 --> 00:21:26,787 What's all this? 444 00:21:26,863 --> 00:21:28,421 Interrogation tactics, Captain. 445 00:21:28,498 --> 00:21:31,296 A few special mementos from Zachary Connor's locker. 446 00:21:33,469 --> 00:21:35,494 This is Detective Munch, my partner. 447 00:21:35,571 --> 00:21:37,334 How much longer do we need to be here? 448 00:21:37,406 --> 00:21:39,237 Entirely up to your son, Mr. Connor. 449 00:21:39,308 --> 00:21:40,502 Is that your book? 450 00:21:40,576 --> 00:21:42,737 I don't know. All our books look alike. 451 00:21:42,812 --> 00:21:44,973 Oh, yeah? Is that your name? 452 00:21:45,615 --> 00:21:47,242 Yeah. Then that must be yours, right? 453 00:21:49,352 --> 00:21:52,515 What is this about? It's his book. Why does it matter? 454 00:21:52,588 --> 00:21:56,490 We also have a CD labeled with your initials, 455 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,791 a pen, a magazine subscription sticker in your name. 456 00:22:00,863 --> 00:22:02,854 You know where I got them? 457 00:22:02,932 --> 00:22:04,297 In my locker at school? 458 00:22:04,367 --> 00:22:07,029 Right. You know what else they have in common? Hmm? 459 00:22:07,803 --> 00:22:09,100 Detective Tutuola? 460 00:22:09,172 --> 00:22:11,106 Covered with his fingerprints. 461 00:22:11,174 --> 00:22:12,732 Correct. Just a minute. 462 00:22:12,808 --> 00:22:14,332 Now, Zach, you're a bright young man. 463 00:22:14,410 --> 00:22:17,379 You understand that every time you touch something, 464 00:22:17,446 --> 00:22:19,380 you leave a fingerprint behind. 465 00:22:19,448 --> 00:22:22,281 So I want you to think real hard before you answer this question. 466 00:22:22,351 --> 00:22:26,253 Were you ever in an apartment on Avenue C where a woman was killed? 467 00:22:26,322 --> 00:22:27,983 Oh, what the hell? 468 00:22:33,329 --> 00:22:35,695 I was in that lady's apartment with Jeremy. 469 00:22:36,666 --> 00:22:38,031 He killed her. 470 00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:45,238 Hey, Jeremy, I think you might want to see this. 471 00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:48,237 Whose idea was it? 472 00:22:49,979 --> 00:22:51,276 Jeremy's. 473 00:22:51,814 --> 00:22:53,873 To rob her or to kill her? 474 00:22:54,250 --> 00:22:55,649 Everything. 475 00:22:56,886 --> 00:22:58,615 He said she had lots of money. 476 00:23:00,056 --> 00:23:01,990 But then she came home. 477 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,292 He made me do bad things to her. 478 00:23:06,362 --> 00:23:08,193 He made me touch her. 479 00:23:09,532 --> 00:23:11,762 And then Jeremy got the knife 480 00:23:13,369 --> 00:23:15,064 and he killed her. 481 00:23:15,938 --> 00:23:18,065 What happened after that? 482 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:19,539 I ran away. 483 00:23:21,844 --> 00:23:23,334 I was scared. 484 00:23:26,449 --> 00:23:28,747 Jeremy. No. 485 00:23:28,818 --> 00:23:31,048 Jeremy, is that what happened? 486 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,610 He's lying! 487 00:23:33,889 --> 00:23:35,914 So you tell us the truth. 488 00:23:40,196 --> 00:23:42,357 I didn't want anyone to get hurt. 489 00:23:43,966 --> 00:23:46,799 Was it your idea to break into that woman's apartment? 490 00:23:49,438 --> 00:23:51,429 Jeremy, why would you do that? 491 00:23:52,441 --> 00:23:54,875 Zach thought it was cool. 492 00:23:54,944 --> 00:23:57,845 Was it cool when you took the telephone and bashed her head in? 493 00:23:57,913 --> 00:24:01,178 I didn't do that, Zach did. 494 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:03,081 Do I listen to his story or yours? 495 00:24:06,022 --> 00:24:07,546 She fell down. 496 00:24:08,758 --> 00:24:10,419 She was bleeding. 497 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,427 Zach said to get a knife from the kitchen. 498 00:24:15,097 --> 00:24:18,863 I didn't want to, but he was screaming at me. 499 00:24:19,935 --> 00:24:22,267 I didn't know what he was going to do with it, I swear. 500 00:24:22,338 --> 00:24:26,434 So you got the knife, and then what happened? 501 00:24:28,444 --> 00:24:32,540 When I walked back in, Zach was on top of her. 502 00:24:33,582 --> 00:24:37,575 He took the knife and he stabbed her over and over. 503 00:24:38,654 --> 00:24:40,747 There was all this blood and I threw up! 504 00:24:40,823 --> 00:24:44,224 I'm sorry. I'm really, really sorry! 505 00:24:47,296 --> 00:24:48,320 I'm sorry. 506 00:24:48,397 --> 00:24:51,298 Jeremy, who covered her up with the blanket? 507 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:54,463 I did. 508 00:24:55,871 --> 00:24:58,533 You shouldn't leave someone like that. 509 00:25:00,509 --> 00:25:02,170 Can I go home now? 510 00:25:03,012 --> 00:25:04,946 I just want to go home. 511 00:25:05,748 --> 00:25:07,943 I want to go home. 512 00:25:08,017 --> 00:25:11,214 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 513 00:25:15,858 --> 00:25:17,792 CSU finished with Zach's house? 514 00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:20,852 Top to bottom. No blood. Must have tossed the clothes he was wearing. 515 00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:22,659 So we've got two kids, two different stories, 516 00:25:22,732 --> 00:25:24,324 and either one of them could have killed her. 517 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,698 Which means I have an even bigger problem. 518 00:25:26,769 --> 00:25:29,431 Whether or not to try Jeremy Brice as an adult. 519 00:25:29,505 --> 00:25:30,995 Zachary Connor is 12. 520 00:25:31,073 --> 00:25:33,871 So even if he acted alone, he's out of my jurisdiction. 521 00:25:33,943 --> 00:25:35,467 He is going to Family Court. 522 00:25:35,544 --> 00:25:37,910 And what kind of punishment is kiddie court handing out 523 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:39,743 for rapists and murderers these days? 524 00:25:39,815 --> 00:25:42,147 Their mandate is rehabilitation, not punishment. 525 00:25:42,218 --> 00:25:46,678 So the maximum sentence is 18 months in a limited secure facility. 526 00:25:46,756 --> 00:25:48,849 And Jeremy's looking at life in Attica. 527 00:25:48,924 --> 00:25:51,791 If the D. A. thinks he's a danger to society, yes. 528 00:25:51,861 --> 00:25:54,989 Okay, I got to tell you that I believe Jeremy's version of the events. 529 00:25:55,064 --> 00:25:58,693 You know, this kid is more of a danger to himself than anybody else. 530 00:25:58,768 --> 00:26:01,134 Doc, you saw both interviews. What do you think? 531 00:26:01,203 --> 00:26:02,795 I agree with you. 532 00:26:02,872 --> 00:26:04,635 Jeremy is more easily manipulated. 533 00:26:04,707 --> 00:26:06,800 He's desperate to fit in at any cost, 534 00:26:06,876 --> 00:26:09,436 whereas Zachary is far more calculating. 535 00:26:09,512 --> 00:26:11,980 I think he wields a great deal of control over Jeremy, 536 00:26:12,047 --> 00:26:15,448 and I think he murdered and raped Susan Oestreicher. 537 00:26:16,318 --> 00:26:20,584 So the question is do we go after Jeremy because we can't get Zachary? 538 00:26:23,058 --> 00:26:24,116 No. 539 00:26:24,593 --> 00:26:27,153 I'll recommend we remove Jeremy to family court. 540 00:26:37,273 --> 00:26:40,504 The D. A. is seeking an indictment against Jeremy Brice. 541 00:26:40,576 --> 00:26:42,669 You've got one day to prepare for the grand jury. 542 00:26:42,745 --> 00:26:44,372 On what charges? 543 00:26:44,447 --> 00:26:45,971 Felony murder and burglary one. 544 00:26:46,048 --> 00:26:47,982 I recommended against it. 545 00:26:48,050 --> 00:26:49,312 Well, the D. A. disagreed. 546 00:26:49,385 --> 00:26:53,788 But the evidence clearly indicates that Jeremy Brice's involvement was limited. 547 00:26:53,856 --> 00:26:56,324 The DNA proves that Zachary Connor committed the rape. 548 00:26:56,392 --> 00:26:59,555 Jeremy already confessed to participating in the burglary. 549 00:26:59,628 --> 00:27:00,652 That's the predicate felony. 550 00:27:00,729 --> 00:27:02,754 He knew it was dangerous, he knew someone could be killed. 551 00:27:02,832 --> 00:27:04,322 No, he didn't. 552 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,028 This boy is not mature enough to understand that. 553 00:27:07,102 --> 00:27:08,899 The law says he is. 554 00:27:08,971 --> 00:27:12,270 That legislation was passed in 1978 555 00:27:12,341 --> 00:27:15,708 as a knee-jerk reaction to some perceived youth crime wave. 556 00:27:15,778 --> 00:27:18,372 It also says that we prosecute juveniles as adults 557 00:27:18,447 --> 00:27:21,348 at the discretion of the district attorney. 558 00:27:21,417 --> 00:27:23,851 He made the call. You do your job. 559 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,886 Which should be easy enough with Jeremy's confession. 560 00:27:28,090 --> 00:27:29,990 A win for the D. A. 561 00:27:30,059 --> 00:27:32,027 So that's what this is about. 562 00:27:32,094 --> 00:27:33,823 'Cause I'd like to know just how much of a sycophant 563 00:27:33,896 --> 00:27:36,694 I have to be in this new administration. 564 00:27:38,601 --> 00:27:40,398 Let's say you're right. 565 00:27:40,469 --> 00:27:42,198 Let's say Zachary Connor did everything. 566 00:27:42,271 --> 00:27:45,763 That means every step of the way, Jeremy Brice had a choice. 567 00:27:46,442 --> 00:27:48,535 Do the right thing or do the wrong thing. 568 00:27:49,712 --> 00:27:53,443 Watch your friend rape a defenseless woman or stop him, 569 00:27:53,516 --> 00:27:56,451 run away or give him the knife so he can stab her to death. 570 00:27:57,386 --> 00:27:59,251 Do we punish him for this? 571 00:27:59,321 --> 00:28:02,654 Or do we tell him that there are no consequences for his actions? 572 00:28:02,725 --> 00:28:06,286 We remove him to Family Court in hopes of rehabilitation. 573 00:28:07,196 --> 00:28:10,222 That won't happen if he goes J. O. And you know it. 574 00:28:10,299 --> 00:28:13,598 You have more faith in the Juvenile Justice Department than I do. 575 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,936 You're adamantly opposed to prosecuting this case? 576 00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:23,774 Yes. I think it's wrong. 577 00:28:25,414 --> 00:28:26,779 All right. 578 00:28:27,716 --> 00:28:29,308 Then I'll do it. 579 00:28:31,654 --> 00:28:33,417 You're second chair. 580 00:28:40,895 --> 00:28:44,126 Elizabeth Donnelly is back trying cases? 581 00:28:44,198 --> 00:28:47,395 Or did your new boss demote you already? 582 00:28:47,468 --> 00:28:51,165 Funny comments like that, it's a wonder both your legs aren't broken. 583 00:28:51,238 --> 00:28:53,502 You get attacked by one of your repeat offenders again? 584 00:28:53,574 --> 00:28:56,839 No, actually one of your esteemed colleagues knocked me off a curb. 585 00:28:56,911 --> 00:28:58,401 There's a law suit pending. 586 00:28:59,313 --> 00:29:02,305 Alexandra Cabot, Gina Bernardo, public defender. 587 00:29:02,383 --> 00:29:03,407 Nice to meet you. 588 00:29:03,484 --> 00:29:07,682 So the D. A. has assembled a legal dream team to crucify a child. 589 00:29:07,755 --> 00:29:10,087 You know as well as I do charging Jeremy Brice 590 00:29:10,157 --> 00:29:12,352 as an adult is a gross injustice. 591 00:29:12,426 --> 00:29:14,189 Tell that to Susan Oestreicher's family. 592 00:29:14,261 --> 00:29:17,662 You honestly believe he deserves to be charged for murder two? 593 00:29:17,732 --> 00:29:19,563 The grand jury did. 594 00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:22,568 You can't possibly hold my client responsible for something 595 00:29:22,636 --> 00:29:25,730 it's impossible for him to be responsible for. 596 00:29:26,674 --> 00:29:28,835 Notification of affirmative defense. 597 00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:32,106 Not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. 598 00:29:34,648 --> 00:29:36,047 What defect? 599 00:29:37,084 --> 00:29:39,484 His 14-year-old brain. 600 00:29:40,654 --> 00:29:42,178 Your Honor, this is an obvious attempt 601 00:29:42,256 --> 00:29:43,780 to backdoor the defense of infancy. 602 00:29:43,858 --> 00:29:48,022 Article 30 clearly states that defense cannot be used for juveniles charged with murder. 603 00:29:48,095 --> 00:29:51,553 I'm not saying that my client isn't responsible because of his age. 604 00:29:51,632 --> 00:29:54,897 I am saying he isn't responsible because of his diminished capacity. 605 00:29:54,969 --> 00:29:58,063 Dictated by his age. It's the same thing. 606 00:29:58,139 --> 00:30:00,630 This is a legislative issue, Your Honor, not a matter for the court. 607 00:30:00,708 --> 00:30:04,303 Then why did three Supreme Court justices draft a public statement 608 00:30:04,378 --> 00:30:06,938 calling for the abolishment of juvenile executions? 609 00:30:07,014 --> 00:30:11,212 Because it is cruel and unusual to impose adult punishment on someone 610 00:30:11,285 --> 00:30:13,150 who isn't capable of adult thought. 611 00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:15,415 Couldn't one argue then that certain behavior, 612 00:30:15,489 --> 00:30:19,789 such as the committing of a violent crime, proves adult thought? 613 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,227 No. If your 10-year-old son takes your car out for a joy ride, 614 00:30:23,297 --> 00:30:25,629 do you automatically hand him a driver's license? 615 00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:27,291 This is all very interesting, Ms. Bernardo, 616 00:30:27,368 --> 00:30:30,599 but I fail to see how any of this applies to an insanity defense. 617 00:30:30,671 --> 00:30:32,434 These are scientific studies 618 00:30:32,506 --> 00:30:36,442 proving that an adolescent's brain is significantly different than an adult's. 619 00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:40,378 That, in fact, our brains aren't fully formed until we're in our early 20s. 620 00:30:40,448 --> 00:30:42,507 And I can present scientific studies which prove 621 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:45,245 my cat is trying to kill me in my sleep. 622 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:46,479 Daubert test, Your Honor. 623 00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:49,990 Scientific evidence must meet federal standards of relevance and reliability. 624 00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:53,515 Well, one of the studies was done by the National Institute of Mental Health. 625 00:30:53,594 --> 00:30:55,926 Is the federal government reliable enough for you? 626 00:30:55,996 --> 00:30:59,193 The reliability of the studies isn't in question. 627 00:30:59,266 --> 00:31:03,396 My job is to determine whether or not they have any material value. 628 00:31:03,471 --> 00:31:05,132 I believe they do. 629 00:31:06,006 --> 00:31:08,770 And I believe the jury should hear them. 630 00:31:13,247 --> 00:31:17,149 Dr. Hayman, can you tell us about the study you recently completed? 631 00:31:17,218 --> 00:31:19,982 We used functional magnetic resonance imaging 632 00:31:20,054 --> 00:31:23,023 to map the brains of healthy adolescents over several years 633 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:25,320 and compared them to those of healthy adults. 634 00:31:25,392 --> 00:31:27,451 And what did your study find? 635 00:31:27,528 --> 00:31:31,055 For adolescents, brain activity is much higher in the amygdala, 636 00:31:31,132 --> 00:31:34,260 which guides instincts like fear or anger. 637 00:31:34,335 --> 00:31:37,566 In adults, the activity in the frontal lobe is higher, 638 00:31:37,638 --> 00:31:40,869 and that's the seat of reasoning and good judgment. 639 00:31:40,941 --> 00:31:43,910 So what are the conclusions of your findings? 640 00:31:43,978 --> 00:31:47,436 Adolescents are physiologically prone 641 00:31:47,515 --> 00:31:49,779 to impulsive and irrational behavior. 642 00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:56,255 So teenagers are moody and unpredictable, and even violent, 643 00:31:56,323 --> 00:31:58,223 because they are wired that way? 644 00:31:58,292 --> 00:32:00,021 Objection. Leading. 645 00:32:00,094 --> 00:32:01,459 Sustained. 646 00:32:01,529 --> 00:32:03,929 That's all. No further questions. 647 00:32:07,067 --> 00:32:13,939 So, your study says that teenagers are impulsive and irrational. 648 00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:20,045 Here's what I don't understand. 649 00:32:20,114 --> 00:32:24,107 If that's true, how is it that every single teenager 650 00:32:24,185 --> 00:32:26,710 isn't a rapist or a murderer? 651 00:32:26,787 --> 00:32:30,621 I believe I said adolescents were prone to certain behaviors. 652 00:32:30,691 --> 00:32:34,627 Then some teenagers are perfectly reasonable and rational. 653 00:32:34,695 --> 00:32:35,787 Yes. 654 00:32:36,497 --> 00:32:37,759 How many? 655 00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:40,691 How many what? 656 00:32:40,768 --> 00:32:44,329 How many teenagers are rational and how many are rapists and murderers? 657 00:32:45,372 --> 00:32:46,805 There's no answer to that question. 658 00:32:46,874 --> 00:32:48,341 I thought you mapped their brains. 659 00:32:48,409 --> 00:32:51,344 We haven't tested every single teenager in the world. 660 00:32:52,012 --> 00:32:56,847 Oh. So if you had given MRIs to every single teenager, 661 00:32:56,917 --> 00:33:00,512 you would be able to predict whether or not they would be a criminal. Is that it? 662 00:33:00,588 --> 00:33:02,385 No. Well, what? 663 00:33:02,456 --> 00:33:05,323 If the irrational part of the brain is overactive, 664 00:33:05,392 --> 00:33:07,622 that proves that they'll be violent, doesn't it? 665 00:33:07,695 --> 00:33:09,560 It doesn't prove anything. 666 00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:11,723 This research is in its infancy. 667 00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:14,692 Your study doesn't prove anything? 668 00:33:14,768 --> 00:33:16,429 Not what you're asking for, but... 669 00:33:16,503 --> 00:33:19,336 Then it's a theory, an unproven theory. 670 00:33:19,406 --> 00:33:21,874 This research is a huge step forward 671 00:33:21,942 --> 00:33:23,534 in understanding how the brain works. 672 00:33:23,611 --> 00:33:27,342 Which is just another way of saying we really don't understand the brain at all. 673 00:33:30,417 --> 00:33:32,009 Nothing further. 674 00:33:35,189 --> 00:33:39,717 Jeremy, do you know the difference between what's right and what's wrong? 675 00:33:40,628 --> 00:33:41,652 Yes. 676 00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:45,290 Was it wrong to break into Susan Oestreicher's apartment? 677 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Yes. 678 00:33:48,469 --> 00:33:49,834 Then why did you do it? 679 00:33:51,171 --> 00:33:53,401 Zach said he wanted some money. 680 00:33:53,474 --> 00:33:55,271 Do you always do what Zach wants? 681 00:33:56,477 --> 00:33:58,240 He's my best friend. 682 00:33:58,312 --> 00:34:01,338 Jeremy, did you know that Zach was planning to kill that woman? 683 00:34:02,483 --> 00:34:03,507 No. 684 00:34:03,951 --> 00:34:06,385 And if you thought even for one moment 685 00:34:06,453 --> 00:34:08,148 that that's what he wanted to do, 686 00:34:08,222 --> 00:34:09,780 would you have gone with him to the apartment, 687 00:34:09,857 --> 00:34:11,984 even though he's your best friend? 688 00:34:12,059 --> 00:34:13,185 No. 689 00:34:14,194 --> 00:34:16,321 I don't want anyone to get killed. 690 00:34:16,397 --> 00:34:18,296 Jeremy, what is more wrong? 691 00:34:18,365 --> 00:34:22,631 Watching someone do something terrible or telling on your only friend? 692 00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:28,741 I don't know. 693 00:34:30,678 --> 00:34:33,511 So, maybe, you don't know right from wrong as much as you think. 694 00:34:36,716 --> 00:34:38,378 Thank you, Jeremy. 695 00:34:41,988 --> 00:34:44,718 Who hit Susan Oestreicher over the head? 696 00:34:45,459 --> 00:34:46,551 Zach. 697 00:34:47,093 --> 00:34:49,756 Hard enough so she was knocked out, right? 698 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:50,854 Yeah. 699 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:53,455 Then Zach told you to get the knife. 700 00:34:54,935 --> 00:34:57,495 He... He said to look in the kitchen. 701 00:34:57,571 --> 00:34:59,265 Did you think he was going to stab her? 702 00:34:59,872 --> 00:35:00,999 No. 703 00:35:01,075 --> 00:35:03,066 What did you think he was going to do? 704 00:35:04,278 --> 00:35:07,304 Scare her. He didn't want her to yell. 705 00:35:07,381 --> 00:35:10,179 But she wasn't awake. How would she yell? 706 00:35:11,819 --> 00:35:13,514 I don't know. 707 00:35:13,587 --> 00:35:15,885 What do people do with knives, Jeremy? 708 00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:19,690 Cut things. 709 00:35:20,227 --> 00:35:23,628 So you walked into the kitchen and you got the knife. 710 00:35:23,697 --> 00:35:24,755 Yes. 711 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:27,624 You said you were afraid of Zach. Why? 712 00:35:27,701 --> 00:35:29,100 He was yelling at me. 713 00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,569 Why didn't you walk out the door? 714 00:35:35,576 --> 00:35:37,043 I don't know. 715 00:35:40,581 --> 00:35:43,106 So, you got the knife. 716 00:35:44,284 --> 00:35:46,081 You walked back to Zach, 717 00:35:46,153 --> 00:35:49,122 and you were holding the knife in your hands. 718 00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:50,349 Yes. 719 00:35:50,424 --> 00:35:52,153 Why did you give it to him? 720 00:35:52,226 --> 00:35:54,387 Was it because you were afraid or because you 721 00:35:54,461 --> 00:35:57,055 wanted to be cool for your friend? 722 00:35:57,131 --> 00:35:58,189 I don't know! 723 00:35:58,265 --> 00:36:00,358 You knew what he was going to do, 724 00:36:00,434 --> 00:36:02,800 and you helped him do it. Isn't that why? 725 00:36:04,371 --> 00:36:05,838 I'm sorry! 726 00:36:07,441 --> 00:36:09,568 I'm so sorry. 727 00:36:09,643 --> 00:36:11,133 I'm so sorry. 728 00:36:11,745 --> 00:36:13,042 I'm sorry. 729 00:36:13,781 --> 00:36:15,112 I'm sorry. 730 00:36:23,323 --> 00:36:24,915 Nothing further. 731 00:36:28,095 --> 00:36:29,756 I'm so sorry. 732 00:36:37,938 --> 00:36:39,200 Alex. 733 00:36:40,474 --> 00:36:42,999 Well, guess you got what you wanted. 734 00:36:44,178 --> 00:36:48,012 Destroying a child on the stand is not quite the highlight of my career. 735 00:36:49,183 --> 00:36:50,707 You did your job. 736 00:36:50,784 --> 00:36:51,876 Careful, Alex. 737 00:36:51,952 --> 00:36:56,048 You're beginning to sound like me, disillusioned before your time. 738 00:36:57,724 --> 00:36:59,885 I need you to subpoena a rebuttal witness. 739 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,222 Who? Zachary Connor. 740 00:37:01,295 --> 00:37:02,387 Why? 741 00:37:02,463 --> 00:37:04,761 As of today, he's been adjudicated by Family Court. 742 00:37:04,832 --> 00:37:08,393 Any testimony he gives won't be tainted by his co-conspirator status. 743 00:37:08,469 --> 00:37:09,959 If you put Zachary Connor on the stand, 744 00:37:10,037 --> 00:37:13,006 he's going to say that Jeremy did everything and I believe that's a lie. 745 00:37:13,073 --> 00:37:15,906 I'm not putting him on the stand. You are. 746 00:37:15,976 --> 00:37:18,740 Jury already thinks I make little kids cry. 747 00:37:18,812 --> 00:37:20,677 No. I won't suborn perjury. 748 00:37:20,747 --> 00:37:23,614 Then I guess you better make sure he tells the truth. 749 00:37:32,025 --> 00:37:34,653 Zachary, who killed Susan Oestreicher? 750 00:37:35,762 --> 00:37:37,127 Jeremy did. 751 00:37:37,865 --> 00:37:39,560 So he stabbed her with a knife? 752 00:37:39,633 --> 00:37:40,930 Yes. 753 00:37:41,001 --> 00:37:43,526 That must have been very frightening for you. 754 00:37:43,604 --> 00:37:45,435 Yes. I was scared. 755 00:37:45,506 --> 00:37:47,235 What were you scared of? 756 00:37:47,307 --> 00:37:48,501 Jeremy. 757 00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:50,100 Why? 758 00:37:50,644 --> 00:37:52,407 Because he's bigger. 759 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,339 Was Jeremy afraid of anything? 760 00:37:55,415 --> 00:37:56,473 Yes. 761 00:37:56,917 --> 00:37:58,009 What? 762 00:37:58,285 --> 00:38:00,719 He was just afraid. He didn't want to get caught. 763 00:38:00,787 --> 00:38:02,345 But you did get caught. 764 00:38:02,422 --> 00:38:03,912 Miss Oestreicher came home. 765 00:38:03,991 --> 00:38:06,824 That was Jeremy's fault. He got it wrong. 766 00:38:07,227 --> 00:38:09,525 You must have been really scared when she walked in that door? 767 00:38:09,596 --> 00:38:11,063 No, I wasn't. 768 00:38:11,131 --> 00:38:12,189 Okay. 769 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,098 Zachary, when did you throw up? 770 00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:18,096 That was Jeremy. 771 00:38:18,171 --> 00:38:20,537 I thought you were afraid, Zachary. 772 00:38:20,607 --> 00:38:23,633 I thought you threw up because you couldn't look at the blood. 773 00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:26,178 I could, too. Jeremy couldn't. 774 00:38:26,246 --> 00:38:28,009 He was being a baby and crying. 775 00:38:28,081 --> 00:38:30,413 When? Before or after she was killed? 776 00:38:30,484 --> 00:38:31,644 The whole time. 777 00:38:31,718 --> 00:38:33,948 And you weren't crying? Not even just a little? 778 00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:35,113 No. 779 00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:36,621 But I thought you were afraid, Zachary. 780 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:38,954 I thought you were afraid of Jeremy. 781 00:38:39,026 --> 00:38:40,220 No, I wasn't. 782 00:38:40,294 --> 00:38:43,457 And you were also afraid of that woman because she was going to call the police. 783 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:44,588 She was afraid of me. 784 00:38:44,665 --> 00:38:47,133 And you wanted to show them both that you were a man, 785 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,599 and that's why you had sex with her. 786 00:38:48,669 --> 00:38:51,729 Well, that was her fault because she wouldn't tell me where the money was. 787 00:38:51,805 --> 00:38:55,036 Jeremy was crying! He wouldn't do anything so I had to do it! 788 00:38:55,108 --> 00:38:58,475 If she had just told me where the money was, I wouldn't have had to hurt her! 789 00:39:01,615 --> 00:39:03,207 Nothing further. 790 00:39:13,427 --> 00:39:15,054 Five to 10 years. 791 00:39:15,696 --> 00:39:17,789 He wouldn't get out until he was 24? 792 00:39:17,864 --> 00:39:20,992 It's the minimum sentence. With good behavior, he's out in five. 793 00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:24,162 But if they say not guilty, he won't go to jail at all. 794 00:39:24,237 --> 00:39:28,697 The jury will not say that. The law is very clear. 795 00:39:28,775 --> 00:39:30,743 Jeremy already admitted to being in the apartment 796 00:39:30,811 --> 00:39:33,712 with the intent to burglarize it and someone was killed. 797 00:39:34,715 --> 00:39:37,115 He can still be found guilty of felony murder. 798 00:39:37,184 --> 00:39:39,778 You want me to tell you to send my son to jail. 799 00:39:39,853 --> 00:39:42,617 Why don't we take a day to think about this? 800 00:39:42,689 --> 00:39:44,714 No. I don't need to think about it. 801 00:39:44,791 --> 00:39:47,988 The answer is no. He didn't hurt anyone. 802 00:39:48,061 --> 00:39:53,499 Mrs. Brice, if Jeremy is convicted, he is facing a possible life sentence. 803 00:39:56,236 --> 00:40:00,036 Miss Bernardo, please tell your client's mother how rare jury nullification is. 804 00:40:00,107 --> 00:40:01,734 We should take the deal. 805 00:40:02,509 --> 00:40:04,773 I don't like taking chances with the jury. 806 00:40:05,545 --> 00:40:06,603 They heard that other boy. 807 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,343 They know Jeremy is good, and they won't send him to jail. 808 00:40:10,917 --> 00:40:12,214 No. 809 00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:14,014 No deal. 810 00:40:22,496 --> 00:40:25,727 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 811 00:40:25,799 --> 00:40:27,562 We have, Your Honor. 812 00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:31,366 On the first count, murder in the second degree, how do you find? 813 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,573 We find the defendant guilty. 814 00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:36,108 No! 815 00:40:39,346 --> 00:40:43,146 On the second count, burglary in the first degree, how do you find? 816 00:40:43,216 --> 00:40:45,411 We find the defendant guilty. 817 00:40:49,656 --> 00:40:51,681 Poll the jury, Your Honor. 818 00:40:51,758 --> 00:40:54,454 Juror number one, what is your verdict? 819 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:58,120 Guilty. 820 00:40:58,198 --> 00:40:59,324 Juror number two? 821 00:40:59,399 --> 00:41:00,491 Guilty. 822 00:41:01,835 --> 00:41:03,564 Juror number three? 823 00:41:04,071 --> 00:41:05,265 Guilty. 824 00:41:05,972 --> 00:41:07,667 Juror number four? 825 00:41:07,741 --> 00:41:08,833 Guilty. 826 00:41:08,909 --> 00:41:10,570 Juror number five? 827 00:41:10,644 --> 00:41:11,770 Guilty. 828 00:41:11,845 --> 00:41:13,142 Juror number six? 829 00:41:13,213 --> 00:41:14,475 Guilty. 830 00:41:14,548 --> 00:41:16,641 Juror number seven? 831 00:41:16,717 --> 00:41:17,945 Guilty.