1 00:00:01,101 --> 00:00:01,234 . 2 00:00:01,468 --> 00:00:02,234 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:03,567 --> 00:00:04,966 sexually based offenses 4 00:00:04,967 --> 00:00:07,167 are considered especially heinous. 5 00:00:07,168 --> 00:00:09,400 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 6 00:00:09,401 --> 00:00:10,999 who investigate these vicious felonies 7 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,832 are members of an elite squad 8 00:00:12,833 --> 00:00:14,932 known as the Special Victims Unit. 9 00:00:14,933 --> 00:00:16,533 These are their stories. 10 00:00:18,134 --> 00:00:21,832 - So, Richard, the father, had a ruptured spleen 11 00:00:21,833 --> 00:00:24,100 and internal bleeding. 12 00:00:24,101 --> 00:00:25,566 And Tess-- 13 00:00:25,567 --> 00:00:27,300 - The teenage daughter who was raped. 14 00:00:27,301 --> 00:00:28,999 - Yeah, she's traumatized. 15 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,167 That's gonna be a long road. 16 00:00:31,168 --> 00:00:36,067 But it also turns out that Joe, the ringleader, 17 00:00:36,068 --> 00:00:40,400 and his girlfriend were both serially abused as children. 18 00:00:40,401 --> 00:00:43,333 He had brain damage from beatings, 19 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:45,599 from drug use. 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,433 So, I mean, this is an endless cycle of abuse. 21 00:00:49,434 --> 00:00:51,233 - What would happen if you stopped? 22 00:00:51,234 --> 00:00:53,732 - I can't. Rollins is still out. 23 00:00:53,733 --> 00:00:55,832 I have a new sergeant who's barely up to speed-- 24 00:00:55,833 --> 00:00:58,966 - You just said it's an endless cycle. 25 00:00:58,967 --> 00:01:03,233 - Yes, but I-- I don't feel that way. 26 00:01:03,234 --> 00:01:06,300 I have hope. 27 00:01:06,301 --> 00:01:07,532 - Yeah. 28 00:01:07,533 --> 00:01:10,068 - Look, I'm fine. 29 00:01:12,134 --> 00:01:14,200 I wasn't actually shot. 30 00:01:14,201 --> 00:01:17,699 My injuries were powder burns. 31 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,233 - No nightmares? No flashbacks? 32 00:01:19,234 --> 00:01:21,133 - Yeah, I do. I have both of those. 33 00:01:21,134 --> 00:01:23,200 It's nothing new. 34 00:01:23,201 --> 00:01:26,201 - And Noah? 35 00:01:29,967 --> 00:01:32,567 - I can barely let him out of my sight. 36 00:01:35,134 --> 00:01:36,899 No, he's all I could think about-- 37 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,168 - When you were being held at gunpoint. 38 00:01:41,168 --> 00:01:43,067 But you have to go back? 39 00:01:43,068 --> 00:01:46,067 No one but you can do this job? 40 00:01:46,068 --> 00:01:48,499 - I came here because I'm fine. 41 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:52,133 I came here because I'm ready. 42 00:01:52,134 --> 00:01:55,233 Now I just need you to sign off on that. 43 00:01:55,234 --> 00:01:56,933 [bell rings] 44 00:02:00,234 --> 00:02:02,300 - 'Sup, brother? 45 00:02:02,301 --> 00:02:04,268 [indistinct chatter] 46 00:02:07,867 --> 00:02:10,067 - Abby. 47 00:02:10,068 --> 00:02:12,432 Chris Roberts is, like, staring at you. 48 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,799 - Really, me? 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,732 He's a senior. 50 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:18,466 - I know. 51 00:02:18,467 --> 00:02:20,932 - Dude, I'd hit that, bro. 52 00:02:20,933 --> 00:02:24,100 - If you don't, I will. 53 00:02:24,101 --> 00:02:25,632 Unless you want the shot. 54 00:02:25,633 --> 00:02:27,899 - Yeah. 55 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:28,899 Sure. 56 00:02:28,900 --> 00:02:29,932 Totally. 57 00:02:29,933 --> 00:02:32,200 - Come on. 58 00:02:32,201 --> 00:02:34,267 - So on the one hand, the Montagues. 59 00:02:34,268 --> 00:02:36,100 On the other hand, the Capulets. 60 00:02:36,101 --> 00:02:37,200 [phone chimes] 61 00:02:37,201 --> 00:02:39,100 Two houses divided. 62 00:02:39,101 --> 00:02:41,732 Fate versus free will. 63 00:02:41,733 --> 00:02:43,233 The family the heroes are born into... 64 00:02:43,234 --> 00:02:45,233 - Chris just asked me to the solstice dance. 65 00:02:45,234 --> 00:02:48,300 - Tell me when you're done, Abby. 66 00:02:48,301 --> 00:02:50,233 The family the heroes are born into 67 00:02:50,234 --> 00:02:54,532 versus what's in their hearts. 68 00:02:54,533 --> 00:02:57,332 - Just giving Chris a sneak peek. 69 00:02:57,333 --> 00:03:00,399 You gotta get sexy to be sexy. 70 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,067 - You guys look so nice. 71 00:03:03,068 --> 00:03:05,200 That's a pretty dress, Abby. 72 00:03:05,201 --> 00:03:07,832 Andrew, where's the camera? 73 00:03:07,833 --> 00:03:09,832 - Totally prepared. - Dad. 74 00:03:09,833 --> 00:03:12,732 - Come on, both of you, smile. Come on. 75 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:14,699 Ah, that's right. Babe, get in there. 76 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:16,067 [chuckling] 77 00:03:16,068 --> 00:03:17,366 - Mom. - Oh, that's great. 78 00:03:17,367 --> 00:03:20,200 - Okay! Okay! - Oh. 79 00:03:20,201 --> 00:03:21,932 That's great. - Dad, we gotta get ready. 80 00:03:21,933 --> 00:03:25,100 - We get it, we get it. 81 00:03:25,101 --> 00:03:27,167 [phone buzzes] 82 00:03:27,168 --> 00:03:29,399 - Look, from Chris. 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,832 - * Closer 84 00:03:31,833 --> 00:03:33,399 - "RUH"? 85 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,732 - Oh, that's good. 86 00:03:34,733 --> 00:03:38,699 That means he's into you. 87 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:40,332 - * When we touch... 88 00:03:40,333 --> 00:03:42,366 - * Let me see your bass face * 89 00:03:42,367 --> 00:03:43,732 * Your bass face 90 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:45,532 - You want some? 91 00:03:45,533 --> 00:03:46,899 - Sure. 92 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,067 * Watch that dirty break, break * 93 00:03:49,068 --> 00:03:57,101 * 94 00:04:18,068 --> 00:04:20,566 - Um... 95 00:04:20,567 --> 00:04:25,067 I'm thinking we should maybe go downstairs. 96 00:04:25,068 --> 00:04:29,167 How about you? 97 00:04:29,168 --> 00:04:31,100 - Okay. 98 00:04:31,101 --> 00:04:35,100 * 99 00:04:35,101 --> 00:04:37,067 - Get-get-get it, son! 100 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:38,499 - Shh, stop it. 101 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:46,533 * 102 00:04:54,068 --> 00:04:56,167 - Wait, slow down. Not down there. 103 00:04:56,168 --> 00:04:58,168 - Sorry. 104 00:05:03,233 --> 00:05:04,699 You feel nice. Is that good? 105 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:07,167 - [groans] Not so hard. 106 00:05:07,168 --> 00:05:09,232 - * See your bass face 107 00:05:09,233 --> 00:05:11,832 - Oh, you're so hot, Abby. 108 00:05:11,833 --> 00:05:14,267 - [groaning] 109 00:05:17,068 --> 00:05:18,399 - There she is. 110 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,232 - Hey, how was the party, honey? 111 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:24,466 - Fine. I'm just tired. 112 00:05:24,467 --> 00:05:26,700 Good night. 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,433 [phone buzzes] 114 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:52,933 [phone beeps] 115 00:05:57,068 --> 00:05:59,068 [phone buzzes] 116 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 [dramatic music] 117 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:06,233 . 118 00:07:06,967 --> 00:07:07,467 - Wow, she's beautiful. 119 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,499 - Not at 4:00 A.M., she's not. 120 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:12,799 - Oh, she's a newborn. It gets easier. 121 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,932 - Enjoy maternity, Amanda. 122 00:07:14,933 --> 00:07:16,599 When my sister had to go back to work, 123 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,132 it was the most wrenching thing. 124 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:19,566 - Carisi. 125 00:07:19,567 --> 00:07:21,132 - Amanda's coming back soon, right? 126 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:22,966 - Well, NYPD only gives six weeks maternity. 127 00:07:22,967 --> 00:07:25,066 - No, she can use her accrued vacation time. 128 00:07:25,067 --> 00:07:26,299 She'll figure it out. 129 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:27,299 - They let you take a year with no pay. 130 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:28,399 - That's not gonna happen. 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,699 - Okay, guys, can we not discuss me 132 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:31,766 in front of me? 133 00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:33,866 - Lieutenant Benson. Oh, look, a baby. 134 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:37,266 Liv, you got a minute? 135 00:07:37,267 --> 00:07:38,766 - Wow. 136 00:07:38,767 --> 00:07:40,566 - I'm representing a 15-year-old freshman 137 00:07:40,567 --> 00:07:41,666 at the Dowland School. 138 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:43,266 - 15. What's he been accused of? 139 00:07:43,267 --> 00:07:44,932 - No, her name's Abby Stewart. 140 00:07:44,933 --> 00:07:46,699 She's the victim. 141 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:49,166 - Working as an advocate? 142 00:07:49,167 --> 00:07:52,299 What is this, penance for representing a serial killer? 143 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:54,199 - You're still holding that against me. 144 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,466 - Yes. 145 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:58,766 - Well, her mother and I went to Dowland together. 146 00:07:58,767 --> 00:08:02,099 Abby was raped at a school dance last Friday. 147 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:03,899 - Okay, so almost a week ago. 148 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:05,399 - Disclosure wasn't that late. 149 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,932 But when they went to their local precinct, 150 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:08,566 they were told there was no case. 151 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:10,932 - Well, that's how precincts keep their rape stats low. 152 00:08:10,933 --> 00:08:12,532 - I've known Abby since birth. 153 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:14,099 She's not making this up, 154 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,099 but the boy is a schoolmate, Chris Roberts, 18. 155 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:18,466 She was his date, 156 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:21,266 went with him willingly to a makeout room 157 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:23,266 where they had consensual foreplay. 158 00:08:23,267 --> 00:08:26,066 - None of that matters, Rita. You know that. 159 00:08:26,067 --> 00:08:27,399 - [sighs] 160 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,099 - So a late disclosure, so no rape kit. 161 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:34,366 - No, but the maid saw Abby's dress was stained. 162 00:08:34,367 --> 00:08:37,066 Showed it to Laura, her mom. 163 00:08:37,067 --> 00:08:39,099 - So when the mother asked the daughter about it-- 164 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:41,066 - The story tumbled out. 165 00:08:41,067 --> 00:08:43,932 Abby's introverted. 166 00:08:43,933 --> 00:08:46,832 She was a virgin. 167 00:08:46,833 --> 00:08:48,532 Will you meet with them? 168 00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:50,800 - Of course. 169 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:55,832 - We so appreciate you coming to our home. 170 00:08:55,833 --> 00:08:57,266 Rita says you're the best. 171 00:08:57,267 --> 00:08:59,366 - Well, I hope she also explained to you 172 00:08:59,367 --> 00:09:01,466 that cases like this can be complicated. 173 00:09:01,467 --> 00:09:03,232 - The local cops treated our daughter 174 00:09:03,233 --> 00:09:05,066 like she was the one who was at fault. 175 00:09:05,067 --> 00:09:06,732 - That won't be happening with SVU. 176 00:09:06,733 --> 00:09:09,832 - Okay, so how does this work? 177 00:09:09,833 --> 00:09:11,566 - Well, we'll need to take a statement 178 00:09:11,567 --> 00:09:13,066 from the three of you. 179 00:09:13,067 --> 00:09:14,666 Also we'll need access to Abby's friends 180 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:16,066 and social media. 181 00:09:16,067 --> 00:09:18,099 - We understand that there was a dress. 182 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:19,332 - There is. 183 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:20,432 - Okay, we'll send it to the lab. 184 00:09:20,433 --> 00:09:22,199 - So in terms of speaking with your daughter, 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,499 sometimes it's easier if the parents aren't around. 186 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:26,932 - They're aware. 187 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:29,232 And so is Abby. 188 00:09:29,233 --> 00:09:31,132 - I've known who Chris is for years. 189 00:09:31,133 --> 00:09:33,066 We were in drama club together. 190 00:09:33,067 --> 00:09:34,566 - Okay, so you were friends. 191 00:09:34,567 --> 00:09:36,632 - Not really. 192 00:09:36,633 --> 00:09:40,299 He didn't even notice me until a couple weeks ago. 193 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:42,099 He started texting me. 194 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:43,766 Sexting, really. 195 00:09:43,767 --> 00:09:46,899 - Okay. Did you text him back? 196 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:48,666 - I wasn't slutty. 197 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:50,299 Maybe a little flirty. 198 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:52,299 - We saved the texts, and I've cautioned Abby 199 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:54,232 against communicating any further with him. 200 00:09:54,233 --> 00:09:56,832 - I still do see Chris at school. 201 00:09:56,833 --> 00:09:59,299 - That's got to be difficult. 202 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:02,466 So have you had any communication with him since? 203 00:10:02,467 --> 00:10:05,466 - No. Well, yes. 204 00:10:05,467 --> 00:10:07,732 Sort of... 205 00:10:07,733 --> 00:10:09,266 Just saying hi. 206 00:10:09,267 --> 00:10:11,832 Didn't know what else to do. 207 00:10:11,833 --> 00:10:12,998 - She came home around 11:00. 208 00:10:12,999 --> 00:10:14,832 I-I could tell there was something wrong. 209 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:16,266 - How do you mean? 210 00:10:16,267 --> 00:10:18,066 - She always wants to talk after a night out. 211 00:10:18,067 --> 00:10:19,299 She went straight to her room. 212 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:20,566 - She said she was tired. 213 00:10:20,567 --> 00:10:22,232 - She was in distress, Andrew. 214 00:10:22,233 --> 00:10:23,666 I should have made her talk to me. 215 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:25,066 - All right, but when you did find that dress, 216 00:10:25,067 --> 00:10:26,566 you asked her about it. That was good. 217 00:10:26,567 --> 00:10:28,965 - Well, my housekeeper, Pilar, found the dress 218 00:10:28,966 --> 00:10:30,466 in the trash on Tuesday. 219 00:10:30,467 --> 00:10:31,898 When Abby came home from school, 220 00:10:31,899 --> 00:10:34,032 I asked her why she'd thrown it away. 221 00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:37,566 She said that she had sex, that she didn't want to, 222 00:10:37,567 --> 00:10:38,998 that she was raped. 223 00:10:38,999 --> 00:10:41,266 - We went straight to the police that night. 224 00:10:41,267 --> 00:10:43,099 - Did your daughter tell anybody else what had happened? 225 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:44,366 Any friends? 226 00:10:44,367 --> 00:10:47,366 - Not that I know of, but something did happen. 227 00:10:47,367 --> 00:10:51,066 - We were making out. 228 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:54,032 He asked if I wanted to go somewhere private. 229 00:10:54,033 --> 00:10:55,532 I liked him. 230 00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:57,199 I wanted him to like me. 231 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,032 - You liked him, you kissed him. 232 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:02,699 That doesn't mean you wanted anything more. 233 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,766 - Okay, Abby, so where did he take you? 234 00:11:04,767 --> 00:11:07,399 - The school darkroom. 235 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,965 It's where people go hook up. 236 00:11:08,966 --> 00:11:12,132 Go to the darkroom, see what develops. 237 00:11:12,133 --> 00:11:15,699 First we were just making out. 238 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:18,366 Then he put his hand under my dress. 239 00:11:18,367 --> 00:11:19,766 I got nervous. 240 00:11:19,767 --> 00:11:21,766 - Okay. Did you tell him to stop? 241 00:11:21,767 --> 00:11:23,766 - I told him not to go down there. 242 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:25,066 To slow down. 243 00:11:25,067 --> 00:11:26,132 - And did he? 244 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:27,965 - No. He wasn't listening. 245 00:11:27,966 --> 00:11:30,399 He pushed me up against a wall. 246 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,898 I felt him get... excited. 247 00:11:34,899 --> 00:11:36,132 He pulled down my underwear. 248 00:11:36,133 --> 00:11:38,965 He put a finger inside me. 249 00:11:38,966 --> 00:11:40,931 - Okay. So what happened next? 250 00:11:40,932 --> 00:11:44,132 - I said, "Wait." So he stopped. 251 00:11:44,133 --> 00:11:47,066 But then he tried to put his... 252 00:11:47,067 --> 00:11:50,599 penis inside me. 253 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,100 - Okay. Did you say no when he did that? 254 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,500 Abby? 255 00:12:00,866 --> 00:12:02,899 Did you say yes? 256 00:12:05,167 --> 00:12:07,199 - I couldn't move or speak. 257 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,566 It was like I was paralyzed. 258 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:10,931 - That's not unusual. 259 00:12:10,932 --> 00:12:13,167 - She's right. 260 00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:19,066 - It wasn't really getting in. 261 00:12:19,067 --> 00:12:21,299 He kept saying I was hot, 262 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:24,932 and then I guess he...came. 263 00:12:26,899 --> 00:12:28,931 I don't understand. 264 00:12:28,932 --> 00:12:31,300 Why would Chris do that to me? 265 00:12:35,932 --> 00:12:37,732 - Abby and I are friends. 266 00:12:37,733 --> 00:12:39,266 - Okay, good. 267 00:12:39,267 --> 00:12:41,765 The two of you went to the dance together last Friday? 268 00:12:41,766 --> 00:12:42,765 - Yeah. 269 00:12:42,766 --> 00:12:43,831 - What happened? 270 00:12:43,832 --> 00:12:45,831 - What exactly is she saying happened? 271 00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:47,965 - We just want to hear your son's side. 272 00:12:47,966 --> 00:12:49,798 - His side? He didn't do anything wrong. 273 00:12:49,799 --> 00:12:52,066 - Then there's no harm in telling us about it. 274 00:12:52,067 --> 00:12:54,931 - Go ahead, son. 275 00:12:54,932 --> 00:12:57,798 - Okay, Abby and I were dancing, 276 00:12:57,799 --> 00:12:59,731 and we made out a little. 277 00:12:59,732 --> 00:13:01,066 She was into it. 278 00:13:01,067 --> 00:13:04,066 - Anything else? 279 00:13:04,067 --> 00:13:06,566 - I asked her if she wanted to go to the darkroom. 280 00:13:06,567 --> 00:13:09,700 That's code for-- 281 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:12,366 We started fooling around. 282 00:13:12,367 --> 00:13:14,199 - "Fooling around"? That's it? 283 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,066 - Yeah, just messing around. 284 00:13:16,067 --> 00:13:20,066 - Is this girl making a rape allegation? 285 00:13:20,067 --> 00:13:21,831 - She's saying something happened 286 00:13:21,832 --> 00:13:23,499 that she didn't want to happen. 287 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:26,066 - That is so not true. We didn't even have sex. 288 00:13:26,067 --> 00:13:28,066 - Okay, if that's the case, just give us a DNA sample, 289 00:13:28,067 --> 00:13:29,666 and this whole thing goes away. 290 00:13:29,667 --> 00:13:31,831 - Whoa, I don't-- - Do you have a warrant? 291 00:13:31,832 --> 00:13:33,666 - Yes, we do. - Oh, my God. 292 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:35,066 - You should have told us. 293 00:13:35,067 --> 00:13:36,299 And I'll be contacting a lawyer. 294 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,898 - No, it's fine. Nothing happened. 295 00:13:37,899 --> 00:13:39,066 - No, I'm sure nothing happened. 296 00:13:39,067 --> 00:13:41,066 I--listen, I know how these things go, 297 00:13:41,067 --> 00:13:42,666 how girls are. 298 00:13:42,667 --> 00:13:44,066 - We understand this is very upsetting, ma'am, 299 00:13:44,067 --> 00:13:45,632 but right now we're just investigating. 300 00:13:45,633 --> 00:13:47,798 - No, before our daughter went to college, 301 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:49,232 I'd overhear her friends talking, 302 00:13:49,233 --> 00:13:51,066 saying that they would accuse a boy of rape 303 00:13:51,067 --> 00:13:53,066 if he didn't call them back. 304 00:13:53,067 --> 00:13:55,232 - We do have a warrant for your son's DNA. 305 00:13:55,233 --> 00:13:56,798 We can collect that here 306 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:59,166 or we can take him down to the station. 307 00:13:59,167 --> 00:14:01,433 It's your call. 308 00:14:02,866 --> 00:14:04,731 - So what's your take on the boy? 309 00:14:04,732 --> 00:14:06,132 - He's privileged but not arrogant. 310 00:14:06,133 --> 00:14:07,865 - No record, straight As. 311 00:14:07,866 --> 00:14:09,931 Waiting on an early decision from Stanford. 312 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:12,132 - He seems genuinely surprised by the allegation. 313 00:14:12,133 --> 00:14:13,965 - Okay, so it sounds like a teenage he said/she said. 314 00:14:13,966 --> 00:14:14,965 - It's more like 315 00:14:14,966 --> 00:14:16,931 her-parents-say/ his-parents-say. 316 00:14:16,932 --> 00:14:19,232 Chris's mom, he's her only son, the golden boy. 317 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:21,632 - And the father of a teenage virginal daughter? 318 00:14:21,633 --> 00:14:23,132 Like, my dad with my sisters. 319 00:14:23,133 --> 00:14:24,765 If a guy so much as looked at one of them, 320 00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:26,931 it's rape. 321 00:14:26,932 --> 00:14:30,066 - Hold on, Chris puts himself in the darkroom with Abby? 322 00:14:30,067 --> 00:14:31,965 - He does, but he swears nothing happened 323 00:14:31,966 --> 00:14:33,765 beyond some kissing and touching. 324 00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:35,066 - Well, he's lying about that. 325 00:14:35,067 --> 00:14:37,232 The lab confirms that the semen stains 326 00:14:37,233 --> 00:14:40,366 on Abby's dress is a match for Chris. 327 00:14:40,367 --> 00:14:43,865 - Okay, that's contact, but that's not proof of rape 328 00:14:43,866 --> 00:14:45,066 or even intercourse. 329 00:14:45,067 --> 00:14:46,566 - Whoa, this might be. 330 00:14:46,567 --> 00:14:48,432 Chris posted photos of the two of them 331 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:52,132 on his Instagram account, hashtag "picked that cherry. 332 00:14:52,133 --> 00:14:53,432 Sweet." 333 00:14:53,433 --> 00:14:56,132 - "Picked that cherry," really? 334 00:14:56,133 --> 00:14:58,466 - Kids fronting on social media doesn't mean it happened. 335 00:14:58,467 --> 00:15:00,266 They lie all the time. 336 00:15:00,267 --> 00:15:03,067 - And these pictures don't look like she's complaining. 337 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:09,233 . 338 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:13,666 - What can I do for you? 339 00:15:14,966 --> 00:15:16,466 - I heard about the DNA match. 340 00:15:16,467 --> 00:15:18,466 I assume you're going to arrest this boy? 341 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:20,099 - Where did you hear that? 342 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:21,798 - I didn't, but you just confirmed it. 343 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:24,066 - Rita, you don't have an all access pass here. 344 00:15:24,067 --> 00:15:26,167 - Hey, Lieutenant, Barba's in there. 345 00:15:29,067 --> 00:15:31,532 - Rita, the boy's lawyered up already? 346 00:15:31,533 --> 00:15:33,099 - Actually, I'm here for the victim. 347 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,532 - Oh, so you take money from both sides. 348 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:35,931 Don't ever change. 349 00:15:35,932 --> 00:15:37,332 You do know that you can't be privy 350 00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:38,698 to the boy's interview. 351 00:15:38,699 --> 00:15:39,931 - She does and she's leaving. 352 00:15:39,932 --> 00:15:41,132 - And Buchanan's here. 353 00:15:41,133 --> 00:15:42,166 - Well, now it's a party. 354 00:15:42,167 --> 00:15:43,865 - As much fun as it would be 355 00:15:43,866 --> 00:15:46,366 to get the band back together, Rita, 356 00:15:46,367 --> 00:15:49,432 the Robertses have retained only me this time. 357 00:15:49,433 --> 00:15:50,831 They'll be up in a bit. 358 00:15:50,832 --> 00:15:52,432 - I'm here representing the Stewarts. 359 00:15:52,433 --> 00:15:54,199 - Victim advocacy. That can't pay well. 360 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,765 - It's pro bono. 361 00:15:55,766 --> 00:15:58,432 Not all of us have to worry about our next meal. 362 00:15:58,433 --> 00:16:00,066 - Getting personal, that's promising. 363 00:16:00,067 --> 00:16:01,332 - Rita was just leaving. 364 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:02,931 - I'll be right down the block. 365 00:16:02,932 --> 00:16:05,099 - This won't take long. 366 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:09,067 In about 20 minutes, you'll realize you have no case. 367 00:16:11,233 --> 00:16:12,665 - This is serious. 368 00:16:12,666 --> 00:16:15,598 We got a DNA match. 369 00:16:15,599 --> 00:16:17,266 And you lied about sexual contact. 370 00:16:17,267 --> 00:16:19,199 - I didn't-- - Let me answer, son. 371 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,898 This is awkward, but it was the boy's first sexual encounter. 372 00:16:22,899 --> 00:16:26,099 He got excited and finished before anything even started. 373 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:27,665 - Not according to Instagram. 374 00:16:27,666 --> 00:16:29,266 - He was trying to impress his friends. 375 00:16:29,267 --> 00:16:30,865 - Then why did Abby accuse you of rape? 376 00:16:30,866 --> 00:16:32,898 - How do you expect him to explain that? 377 00:16:32,899 --> 00:16:34,332 - This girl is obviously lying. 378 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:36,099 - Why don't you let Chris talk? 379 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:37,499 - I'm here to speak for him. 380 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:40,332 Chris was shocked by these allegations. 381 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,898 As far as he knew, he and Abby were friends. 382 00:16:42,899 --> 00:16:46,099 - She still thinks we are. 383 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,400 - Huh. Help yourselves. 384 00:16:49,932 --> 00:16:51,498 - "I don't know why this is happening. 385 00:16:51,499 --> 00:16:55,166 I like you. I hope you're not mad at me." 386 00:16:55,167 --> 00:16:56,598 - See? She's fine. 387 00:16:56,599 --> 00:16:58,066 - Oh, boy, that's not good. 388 00:16:58,067 --> 00:16:59,266 Am I right, counselor? 389 00:16:59,267 --> 00:17:00,665 - Like a broken clock. 390 00:17:00,666 --> 00:17:03,831 - Okay, so she's an imperfect victim. 391 00:17:03,832 --> 00:17:05,765 - Call your friend Calhoun. 392 00:17:05,766 --> 00:17:08,467 - My friend. 393 00:17:10,233 --> 00:17:11,831 - I never thought I'd say this, 394 00:17:11,832 --> 00:17:13,332 but thank God for texting. 395 00:17:13,333 --> 00:17:14,798 - [chuckles] I'm tempted to send 396 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:17,267 that girl's family my legal bill. 397 00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:22,066 - So I assume this will be the last 398 00:17:22,067 --> 00:17:23,565 we hear of the matter, counselor? 399 00:17:23,566 --> 00:17:25,100 - We'll be in touch. 400 00:17:29,067 --> 00:17:30,665 Rita, we have a problem. 401 00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:32,399 - No, we don't. I've already spoken with Abby, 402 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,232 and this isn't anything we haven't seen before. 403 00:17:34,233 --> 00:17:36,465 - Really? Because if you were that boy's defense attorney, 404 00:17:36,466 --> 00:17:38,066 you'd tear her to shreds. 405 00:17:38,067 --> 00:17:39,565 - Put this into context. Abby's insecure. 406 00:17:39,566 --> 00:17:41,266 She's non-confrontational. 407 00:17:41,267 --> 00:17:42,831 If she were more assertive, we might not even be here. 408 00:17:42,832 --> 00:17:44,166 - She was assertive enough to text him. 409 00:17:44,167 --> 00:17:46,665 - She was answering his texts every time. 410 00:17:46,666 --> 00:17:48,665 There's no social protocol with teenagers. 411 00:17:48,666 --> 00:17:50,465 Do you un-friend? Do you block? 412 00:17:50,466 --> 00:17:51,898 They don't think things through. 413 00:17:51,899 --> 00:17:53,066 - I understand, but Buchanan's gonna 414 00:17:53,067 --> 00:17:54,498 crucify her in front of a jury. 415 00:17:54,499 --> 00:17:57,465 - This boy lured Abby into the school's darkroom, 416 00:17:57,466 --> 00:17:58,898 boasted on the internet they had sex, 417 00:17:58,899 --> 00:18:00,199 lied to the police. 418 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,798 - What do you want me to do? 419 00:18:01,799 --> 00:18:03,299 - There were a hundred kids at that dance. 420 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:06,531 Have you talked to any of them? 421 00:18:06,532 --> 00:18:09,299 - Everyone knows the darkroom is where you have sex. 422 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:11,965 Once you go down there, you can't change your mind. 423 00:18:11,966 --> 00:18:14,865 - Actually, you can, Daniella, at any time. 424 00:18:14,866 --> 00:18:17,266 - Maybe, but there's no way Abby did. 425 00:18:17,267 --> 00:18:19,266 She's obsessed with Chris. 426 00:18:19,267 --> 00:18:21,266 - So you think she's just making this up? 427 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,465 - I don't know. 428 00:18:23,466 --> 00:18:26,932 She could just be mad that Chris didn't ask her out again. 429 00:18:28,899 --> 00:18:30,099 - [laughs] 430 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,898 - Will Moore? Jack Peters? 431 00:18:32,899 --> 00:18:33,898 - Yeah. 432 00:18:33,899 --> 00:18:35,931 - NYPD. We got a couple questions. 433 00:18:35,932 --> 00:18:36,965 - About Chris? 434 00:18:36,966 --> 00:18:39,299 What people are saying is unfair. 435 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,099 He didn't do anything to Abby she wasn't asking for. 436 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:43,598 - She was asking for it? 437 00:18:43,599 --> 00:18:44,965 That's what you heard too? 438 00:18:44,966 --> 00:18:46,132 - Yeah, I guess. 439 00:18:46,133 --> 00:18:48,966 I got to go study, so... 440 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:53,898 - Look, I don't want to bad-mouth her, 441 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:55,631 but Abby's just trying to get attention. 442 00:18:55,632 --> 00:18:56,798 - Trying to avoid us, Jack? 443 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,598 - No, I just don't know anything. 444 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:00,831 - What's the matter, 445 00:19:00,832 --> 00:19:02,831 were you down in that darkroom with her too? 446 00:19:02,832 --> 00:19:04,865 - You know, she's only 15. You're 18. 447 00:19:04,866 --> 00:19:06,199 Know what that means? 448 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,299 - Whoa, whoa, whoa, I did not touch her. 449 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:10,332 - Yeah, but Chris did though, didn't he? 450 00:19:10,333 --> 00:19:13,965 Come on, talk to us or we're gonna have to call your parents. 451 00:19:13,966 --> 00:19:15,965 - You know what, why don't we just call Notre Dame? 452 00:19:15,966 --> 00:19:17,299 He's the one waiting to hear 453 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:19,066 about that football scholarship, right? 454 00:19:19,067 --> 00:19:22,066 - Wait, wait, wait, wait, don't--don't do that. 455 00:19:22,067 --> 00:19:24,067 - Give us a reason not to. 456 00:19:26,866 --> 00:19:30,931 - Chris needed a name on his list. 457 00:19:30,932 --> 00:19:34,199 - What list? 458 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,865 - This secret society for seniors. 459 00:19:37,866 --> 00:19:39,631 Nos Messis Cerasa. 460 00:19:39,632 --> 00:19:40,931 It's... 461 00:19:40,932 --> 00:19:43,766 It's Latin for "Cherry Pickers Club." 462 00:19:45,966 --> 00:19:49,066 - What's the big secret? 463 00:19:49,067 --> 00:19:50,431 - It's this competition 464 00:19:50,432 --> 00:19:52,698 to see how many virgins you can bang, 465 00:19:52,699 --> 00:19:56,966 and everybody had a name on the list except for Chris. 466 00:19:59,666 --> 00:20:01,866 So, here, it's behind this portrait. 467 00:20:11,666 --> 00:20:14,665 [dramatic music] 468 00:20:14,666 --> 00:20:19,331 * 469 00:20:19,332 --> 00:20:20,531 - How old were these girls? 470 00:20:20,532 --> 00:20:21,831 - I don't know. 471 00:20:21,832 --> 00:20:24,298 The ones on mine were, like, 16 or 17, 472 00:20:24,299 --> 00:20:25,831 but they came after me, okay? 473 00:20:25,832 --> 00:20:27,531 I could show you the selfies they sent me. 474 00:20:27,532 --> 00:20:28,998 - That's okay. We get it. 475 00:20:28,999 --> 00:20:31,032 - Chris only has Abby listed? 476 00:20:31,033 --> 00:20:32,865 - Yeah, it's a good thing he didn't get shut out, 477 00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:34,966 'cause that wall's there forever. 478 00:20:40,466 --> 00:20:43,032 - Basically, Chris just needed to make the wall. 479 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:44,298 - Good to know. 480 00:20:44,299 --> 00:20:45,798 - Oh, counselor, you're not gonna 481 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:46,931 use this list though, are you? 482 00:20:46,932 --> 00:20:48,066 - It goes to motive. 483 00:20:48,067 --> 00:20:49,565 - Yeah, but it also outs a lot of teenagers. 484 00:20:49,566 --> 00:20:51,265 I mean, the guys, whatever. Who cares about them? 485 00:20:51,266 --> 00:20:52,498 But these girls-- 486 00:20:52,499 --> 00:20:54,265 - They don't want this list going public. 487 00:20:54,266 --> 00:20:56,232 - Come on, like they haven't posted darkroom selfies 488 00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:57,698 on their Facebook pages already? 489 00:20:57,699 --> 00:20:59,731 We're dealing with hormone-flooded teenagers. 490 00:20:59,732 --> 00:21:01,965 I know things are grey here, but this is 50 shades of it. 491 00:21:01,966 --> 00:21:03,698 - I'm with Dodds. I don't think this kid 492 00:21:03,699 --> 00:21:05,765 knew anything was wrong till we showed up at his house. 493 00:21:05,766 --> 00:21:07,398 - He lied to your faces. 494 00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:08,765 - Yeah, and so did she 495 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:11,698 when she said she wasn't texting him anymore. 496 00:21:11,699 --> 00:21:14,531 - Okay, I think that the kid is good for it, 497 00:21:14,532 --> 00:21:17,698 but going to trial with where we are now... 498 00:21:17,699 --> 00:21:19,631 I think you need to sit both families down 499 00:21:19,632 --> 00:21:21,099 and hammer out a plea. 500 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:22,966 - I'll see what I can do. 501 00:21:24,866 --> 00:21:27,698 - A plea? 502 00:21:27,699 --> 00:21:29,631 Of misdemeanor sexual misconduct? 503 00:21:29,632 --> 00:21:31,565 No. 504 00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:33,531 - I can't offer felony rape or even attempted rape. 505 00:21:33,532 --> 00:21:35,066 A public defender would balk at that. 506 00:21:35,067 --> 00:21:36,465 - There are other felonies. 507 00:21:36,466 --> 00:21:38,265 What about sending indecent material 508 00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:39,731 to a minor via the texts. 509 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,198 - The texts are pathetic, 510 00:21:41,199 --> 00:21:42,865 but I'm not sure that they're indecent. 511 00:21:42,866 --> 00:21:45,431 Sexual misconduct does get him on the sex offenders registry. 512 00:21:45,432 --> 00:21:47,066 Even if he doesn't do jail time, 513 00:21:47,067 --> 00:21:48,931 his DNA goes into the database, 514 00:21:48,932 --> 00:21:51,066 and being on the registry is quite severe. 515 00:21:51,067 --> 00:21:53,365 - As it should be. - No. 516 00:21:53,366 --> 00:21:55,765 He raped my daughter. He should go to prison! 517 00:21:55,766 --> 00:21:57,231 - We're all upset about what happened to Abby, 518 00:21:57,232 --> 00:21:58,965 but putting her through a trial? 519 00:21:58,966 --> 00:22:01,698 There's a good chance that does not result in a conviction. 520 00:22:01,699 --> 00:22:02,798 Counselor? 521 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,331 - Mr. Barba is making good points. 522 00:22:04,332 --> 00:22:06,298 Even with the rape shield law, 523 00:22:06,299 --> 00:22:08,865 the press will be all over this story if we go forward. 524 00:22:08,866 --> 00:22:11,765 - The press? My life is over. 525 00:22:11,766 --> 00:22:13,698 Everybody at school is whispering about me, 526 00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:14,698 laughing at me. 527 00:22:14,699 --> 00:22:16,066 - Abby, honey, please-- 528 00:22:16,067 --> 00:22:17,698 - Chris' friends hate me. 529 00:22:17,699 --> 00:22:20,732 My friends hate me. I wish I'd never said anything. 530 00:22:27,632 --> 00:22:29,566 - I'm sorry. 531 00:22:31,766 --> 00:22:33,732 This is all I can do. 532 00:22:36,199 --> 00:22:38,465 - We'll take sexual misconduct. 533 00:22:38,466 --> 00:22:43,067 As long as Chris Roberts goes on the registry. 534 00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:46,865 - The registry? Absolutely not. 535 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,131 - This is the best plea I can offer. 536 00:22:48,132 --> 00:22:49,598 Your son would avoid 537 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:51,298 the publicity and trauma of a trial. 538 00:22:51,299 --> 00:22:53,765 - But he'd be put on a list with rapists and pedophiles. 539 00:22:53,766 --> 00:22:55,099 What about college? 540 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,765 - Chris just got early acceptance to Stanford. 541 00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,198 - That's nice. 542 00:22:58,199 --> 00:23:00,498 - If he goes on the list, he can't have a smartphone. 543 00:23:00,499 --> 00:23:02,066 He can't even access the internet. 544 00:23:02,067 --> 00:23:03,731 To make this go away, 545 00:23:03,732 --> 00:23:06,665 we'd consider endangering the welfare of a child. 546 00:23:06,666 --> 00:23:08,698 - He had unwanted sexual contact with a minor. 547 00:23:08,699 --> 00:23:12,066 He has to go on the registry. 548 00:23:12,067 --> 00:23:14,365 - Did Benson and Calhoun prepare that sentence for you? 549 00:23:14,366 --> 00:23:16,231 We all know what this was. 550 00:23:16,232 --> 00:23:17,898 A misunderstanding 551 00:23:17,899 --> 00:23:20,365 between two sexually inexperienced teenagers. 552 00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:21,765 - One of whom is 15 years old. 553 00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:23,265 That's automatic sexual misconduct. 554 00:23:23,266 --> 00:23:24,431 - That's your best argument? 555 00:23:24,432 --> 00:23:26,066 There's a Romeo and Juliet exemption. 556 00:23:26,067 --> 00:23:27,265 - Not if he forced her. 557 00:23:27,266 --> 00:23:29,198 - That's her story, after the fact. 558 00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:30,565 - This train is leaving the station. 559 00:23:30,566 --> 00:23:31,931 I've offered you no prison time. 560 00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:33,665 If you say no and your son is convicted, 561 00:23:33,666 --> 00:23:35,498 prison time is what he could be looking at. 562 00:23:35,499 --> 00:23:36,765 - But he didn't do anything wrong. 563 00:23:36,766 --> 00:23:38,665 - Chris, is this what you want? 564 00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:39,731 To go to trial? 565 00:23:39,732 --> 00:23:41,398 - Does that mean I'm on the news? 566 00:23:41,399 --> 00:23:42,731 Everybody knows who I am? 567 00:23:42,732 --> 00:23:44,398 - Once you're arrested and charged, 568 00:23:44,399 --> 00:23:46,165 your name is made public. 569 00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:48,931 Anytime anyone Googles you for the rest of your life, 570 00:23:48,932 --> 00:23:50,898 this is what will come up. 571 00:23:50,899 --> 00:23:52,565 - Don't threaten my son. 572 00:23:52,566 --> 00:23:53,831 This girl's slandering him. 573 00:23:53,832 --> 00:23:55,865 We need to fight this. 574 00:23:55,866 --> 00:23:58,898 - Mr. Barba, what if I just say sorry to Abby and her family? 575 00:23:58,899 --> 00:24:00,731 - You have nothing to be sorry for. 576 00:24:00,732 --> 00:24:02,832 - No, absolutely not. Let's go. 577 00:24:04,432 --> 00:24:05,898 - We're calling your bluff. 578 00:24:05,899 --> 00:24:07,766 No deal. 579 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:21,432 - Chris Roberts, you are charged 580 00:24:22,932 --> 00:24:24,298 with one count of attempted rape 581 00:24:24,299 --> 00:24:25,931 and two counts of sexual misconduct 582 00:24:25,932 --> 00:24:27,631 and forcible touching. 583 00:24:27,632 --> 00:24:28,965 How do you plead? 584 00:24:28,966 --> 00:24:30,831 - Not guilty on all counts, Your Honor. 585 00:24:30,832 --> 00:24:32,298 - People on bail? 586 00:24:32,299 --> 00:24:34,165 - The defendant has a passport and the means to flee. 587 00:24:34,166 --> 00:24:35,631 We request 1 million. 588 00:24:35,632 --> 00:24:37,831 - For an 18-year-old high school honors student 589 00:24:37,832 --> 00:24:39,231 with no priors who lives at home? 590 00:24:39,232 --> 00:24:42,065 In lieu of bail, we ask that he be released 591 00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:43,665 into his parents' custody. 592 00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:44,898 - I'll split the difference. 593 00:24:44,899 --> 00:24:46,631 Bail is set at 500,000. 594 00:24:46,632 --> 00:24:48,632 The defendant will surrender his passport. 595 00:24:52,232 --> 00:24:53,731 - Lieutenant. 596 00:24:53,732 --> 00:24:55,731 - Dodds, glad you made it. 597 00:24:55,732 --> 00:24:57,631 You know, it's helpful for the victims 598 00:24:57,632 --> 00:24:58,631 to see us in the gallery. 599 00:24:58,632 --> 00:25:00,065 - Yeah, about this victim, 600 00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:02,465 I'm sorry I brought it up in front of everybody. 601 00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:03,865 - Don't be. It's not a problem. 602 00:25:03,866 --> 00:25:05,131 - It's just that these two teenagers 603 00:25:05,132 --> 00:25:06,598 both seem like good kids. 604 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:09,065 I don't think they know what happened in that darkroom. 605 00:25:09,066 --> 00:25:10,331 Do we? 606 00:25:10,332 --> 00:25:11,798 - Look, he may not realize 607 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:13,965 that what he did was a sexual assault, 608 00:25:13,966 --> 00:25:15,465 but Abby didn't make this up. 609 00:25:15,466 --> 00:25:17,965 She's just not a manipulative girl. 610 00:25:17,966 --> 00:25:19,898 - Yeah, okay, but he's not a predator. 611 00:25:19,899 --> 00:25:21,898 This is a high school make out session gone bad. 612 00:25:21,899 --> 00:25:23,065 They shouldn't be going to trial. 613 00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:24,665 - I don't disagree with you. 614 00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:25,731 Not our call. 615 00:25:25,732 --> 00:25:26,865 - It wasn't theirs either. 616 00:25:26,866 --> 00:25:28,498 This whole thing is a runaway train. 617 00:25:28,499 --> 00:25:31,066 - Good morning. 618 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:37,065 - Wow, they made Chris look like Harry Potter. 619 00:25:37,066 --> 00:25:39,065 - Well, we've seen that before, right? 620 00:25:39,066 --> 00:25:41,232 The nerd defense. 621 00:25:45,132 --> 00:25:47,465 - The night Abby came home after being assaulted, 622 00:25:47,466 --> 00:25:49,065 the defendant texted her. 623 00:25:49,066 --> 00:25:51,065 "I had a great time tonight. See you Monday." 624 00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:52,565 She wrote back, "K." 625 00:25:52,566 --> 00:25:56,665 A week later, while Mr. Roberts was being interrogated by SVU, 626 00:25:56,666 --> 00:25:58,065 she texted him again. 627 00:25:58,066 --> 00:26:00,098 "I don't know why this is happening. 628 00:26:00,099 --> 00:26:02,931 I like you. I hope you're not mad at me." 629 00:26:02,932 --> 00:26:05,731 In your years as an SVU detective, 630 00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:07,531 sergeant, and now lieutenant, 631 00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:09,698 have you ever seen this kind of communication 632 00:26:09,699 --> 00:26:11,098 between a young victim and an assailant? 633 00:26:11,099 --> 00:26:13,131 - Yes, it's more common than not. 634 00:26:13,132 --> 00:26:15,865 Look, teenagers have imperfect judgment. 635 00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:19,265 I mean, in my experience, a young, naive girl 636 00:26:19,266 --> 00:26:22,098 who also attends the same high school as her rapist 637 00:26:22,099 --> 00:26:24,698 would be scared of causing conflict 638 00:26:24,699 --> 00:26:27,198 or, worse, being stigmatized by her peers. 639 00:26:27,199 --> 00:26:28,798 - In your experience, this would be true 640 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:30,398 of someone like Abby? 641 00:26:30,399 --> 00:26:32,398 - Yes, girls like Abby who are shy 642 00:26:32,399 --> 00:26:35,131 have trouble speaking up for themselves, 643 00:26:35,132 --> 00:26:39,731 and teenaged predators often prey on less-assertive victims. 644 00:26:39,732 --> 00:26:41,964 - Okay, so one last question. 645 00:26:41,965 --> 00:26:46,465 Abby didn't file a report 646 00:26:46,466 --> 00:26:49,098 with the police immediately afterwards. 647 00:26:49,099 --> 00:26:50,765 How unusual is that? 648 00:26:50,766 --> 00:26:52,765 - Oh, it's not unusual. At all. 649 00:26:52,766 --> 00:26:54,765 It happens with many, many victims. 650 00:26:54,766 --> 00:26:56,365 - Thank you, Lieutenant. 651 00:26:56,366 --> 00:26:58,131 - Good morning, Lieutenant. 652 00:26:58,132 --> 00:26:59,598 If I understood you just now, 653 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,465 it's because the assailant is naive or shy 654 00:27:02,466 --> 00:27:05,798 that she waited four days to disclose? 655 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:07,131 - No, that's not what I said. 656 00:27:07,132 --> 00:27:09,265 I said it's not unusual at all 657 00:27:09,266 --> 00:27:12,065 for any victim to wait to disclose. 658 00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:15,665 Victims often need time to process what happened to them 659 00:27:15,666 --> 00:27:17,765 before approaching police. 660 00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:19,665 - You mean before approaching you. 661 00:27:19,666 --> 00:27:21,365 She went to her local precinct first, 662 00:27:21,366 --> 00:27:24,065 and they chose not to pursue an investigation. 663 00:27:24,066 --> 00:27:27,365 - Because local precincts aren't properly trained 664 00:27:27,366 --> 00:27:29,198 in sexual assault. 665 00:27:29,199 --> 00:27:32,198 That's why the NYPD created the Special Victims Unit 666 00:27:32,199 --> 00:27:34,065 in the first place. 667 00:27:34,066 --> 00:27:35,365 - Where apparently you're trained to believe 668 00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:37,964 that victims with certain personality flaws 669 00:27:37,965 --> 00:27:39,198 are more likely to be targeted. 670 00:27:39,199 --> 00:27:41,098 - Also not what I said. 671 00:27:41,099 --> 00:27:44,065 - I know how difficult it is to be professional 672 00:27:44,066 --> 00:27:45,930 and politically correct at the same time, 673 00:27:45,931 --> 00:27:48,465 but you did just say that a more assertive girl 674 00:27:48,466 --> 00:27:50,298 might not have been targeted. 675 00:27:50,299 --> 00:27:52,665 It sounds to me like you're blaming the victim. 676 00:27:52,666 --> 00:27:54,065 - No, I am not. 677 00:27:54,066 --> 00:27:56,165 It's always the rapist's fault. 678 00:27:56,166 --> 00:27:57,665 Again, twisting what I'm saying. 679 00:27:57,666 --> 00:27:59,531 - So there is nothing that the accuser can do 680 00:27:59,532 --> 00:28:02,231 that would contribute to this situation? 681 00:28:02,232 --> 00:28:04,398 If she's sexy? 682 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:07,231 Willingly going to private areas? 683 00:28:07,232 --> 00:28:10,765 Enthusiastically engaging in foreplay? 684 00:28:10,766 --> 00:28:13,065 None of this could possibly lead on 685 00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:16,231 a young, inexperienced teenaged boy? 686 00:28:16,232 --> 00:28:18,098 - Objection. Speculation. 687 00:28:18,099 --> 00:28:21,498 - More like common sense, Your Honor. 688 00:28:21,499 --> 00:28:24,399 But I'll withdraw. Nothing further. 689 00:28:27,099 --> 00:28:29,165 - During the course of our investigation, 690 00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:31,231 we became aware that Chris Roberts was a member 691 00:28:31,232 --> 00:28:33,231 of the school's unofficial secret society, 692 00:28:33,232 --> 00:28:34,731 the Cherry Pickers Club. 693 00:28:34,732 --> 00:28:36,864 - What did your investigation find out about this club? 694 00:28:36,865 --> 00:28:40,897 - Club's one purpose, to deflower female students, 695 00:28:40,898 --> 00:28:42,598 and then to record the names of those conquests 696 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:44,098 on a wall in the library 697 00:28:44,099 --> 00:28:45,665 behind a portrait of the school's founder. 698 00:28:45,666 --> 00:28:47,231 - The defendant recorded Abby's name on that wall? 699 00:28:47,232 --> 00:28:48,498 - Yes, he did. - How many names 700 00:28:48,499 --> 00:28:50,065 had he recorded before hers? 701 00:28:50,066 --> 00:28:51,165 - None. - Were the other members 702 00:28:51,166 --> 00:28:53,065 of his club more successful this year? 703 00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:54,365 - Well, they claimed to be. 704 00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:56,198 And while interviewing them, it became clear 705 00:28:56,199 --> 00:28:58,198 that Chris was getting taunted as a failure 706 00:28:58,199 --> 00:28:59,565 who needed to step up. 707 00:28:59,566 --> 00:29:01,098 - So by assaulting Abby 708 00:29:01,099 --> 00:29:03,131 and writing her name beneath his, 709 00:29:03,132 --> 00:29:04,231 that meant in the eyes of his peers 710 00:29:04,232 --> 00:29:05,431 that he was no longer a loser? 711 00:29:05,432 --> 00:29:07,065 - Objection. - Rephrase. 712 00:29:07,066 --> 00:29:08,764 Did he write Abby's name on that wall 713 00:29:08,765 --> 00:29:11,598 as someone whose cherry he had picked that night? 714 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,065 - Yes. - Did he subsequently brag 715 00:29:13,066 --> 00:29:14,897 on social media that he had done so? 716 00:29:14,898 --> 00:29:16,098 - Yes, he did. 717 00:29:16,099 --> 00:29:17,631 - Thank you. 718 00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:19,964 - Detective, we heard your lieutenant explain 719 00:29:19,965 --> 00:29:22,098 that teenagers tend to have poor judgment. 720 00:29:22,099 --> 00:29:24,231 Have you ever heard of teenaged boys 721 00:29:24,232 --> 00:29:26,930 bragging about their sexual conquests 722 00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:29,231 even when no such exploits took place? 723 00:29:29,232 --> 00:29:31,298 - Are you asking me if your client's a liar? 724 00:29:31,299 --> 00:29:33,964 - I'm asking you if he's a teenager 725 00:29:33,965 --> 00:29:36,598 who, as you said, was being pressured 726 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,532 to claim he'd scored? 727 00:29:43,798 --> 00:29:45,631 - Yes. - Redirect. 728 00:29:45,632 --> 00:29:47,730 Detective Carisi, let me ask you again. 729 00:29:47,731 --> 00:29:49,565 During your initial interview with the accused, 730 00:29:49,566 --> 00:29:50,631 did he lie to you? 731 00:29:50,632 --> 00:29:51,964 - Yeah, he flat-out denied 732 00:29:51,965 --> 00:29:53,797 having any sexual contact with Abby. 733 00:29:53,798 --> 00:29:56,131 It was only when we confronted him with the DNA evidence 734 00:29:56,132 --> 00:29:58,964 of his semen on Abby's dress that he admitted the truth. 735 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:00,165 - Objection. Prejudicial. 736 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:01,797 My client has always maintained 737 00:30:01,798 --> 00:30:04,797 that all contact was mutual and consensual. 738 00:30:04,798 --> 00:30:06,098 - Sure, except when he was lying about it. 739 00:30:06,099 --> 00:30:08,398 - Spare us the grandstanding, gentlemen. 740 00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:10,165 The objection is overruled. 741 00:30:10,166 --> 00:30:12,964 Why don't you two calm down and we will resume after lunch? 742 00:30:12,965 --> 00:30:14,565 - At which time we'll be calling our next witness, 743 00:30:14,566 --> 00:30:15,965 Abby Stewart. 744 00:30:20,166 --> 00:30:23,165 - We said no makeup. Remember, Abby? 745 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,930 - But I'll look like a little girl. 746 00:30:24,931 --> 00:30:26,231 - They're making him look like a saint. 747 00:30:26,232 --> 00:30:27,964 You can't look like a sinner. 748 00:30:27,965 --> 00:30:29,797 [door opens] 749 00:30:29,798 --> 00:30:31,831 - Mrs. Roberts, would you give us a minute? 750 00:30:33,499 --> 00:30:35,665 - I'm just washing my hands. 751 00:30:36,831 --> 00:30:38,498 Abby, did they tell you 752 00:30:38,499 --> 00:30:40,231 that Stanford requested 753 00:30:40,232 --> 00:30:42,265 Chris withdraw his application? 754 00:30:42,266 --> 00:30:44,098 - This isn't the time. 755 00:30:44,099 --> 00:30:45,730 - Do you understand that you're ruining my son's life? 756 00:30:45,731 --> 00:30:47,664 - Hey, you need to stop talking. 757 00:30:47,665 --> 00:30:49,065 - A woman cop like you, 758 00:30:49,066 --> 00:30:50,897 you always take the girl's side, don't you? 759 00:30:50,898 --> 00:30:52,398 - That's not what's happening here. 760 00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:53,897 - Yeah, well, I've seen it. 761 00:30:53,898 --> 00:30:55,664 The sweet little girl becomes the victim, 762 00:30:55,665 --> 00:30:57,265 and then the boy is made out to be a brute. 763 00:30:57,266 --> 00:30:59,499 - Oh-- - And do you know why that is? 764 00:31:10,099 --> 00:31:10,232 . 765 00:31:11,765 --> 00:31:11,965 - Abby. 766 00:31:14,232 --> 00:31:16,531 Abby? 767 00:31:16,532 --> 00:31:18,897 - Chris and I danced, we made out, 768 00:31:18,898 --> 00:31:21,565 and then we went downstairs to the darkroom. 769 00:31:21,566 --> 00:31:24,065 - And you agreed to all that willingly? 770 00:31:24,066 --> 00:31:25,331 - Yes. 771 00:31:25,332 --> 00:31:27,065 We were kissing when we got inside. 772 00:31:27,066 --> 00:31:28,664 - And you were okay with that as well? 773 00:31:28,665 --> 00:31:31,065 - Yes. 774 00:31:31,066 --> 00:31:34,198 - Then what happened? 775 00:31:34,199 --> 00:31:36,964 - He got aggressive. 776 00:31:36,965 --> 00:31:39,565 He put his hands under my dress, 777 00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:42,499 and then he put his finger in my vagina. 778 00:31:44,199 --> 00:31:45,630 - Did you agree to that? 779 00:31:45,631 --> 00:31:47,465 - No. 780 00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:50,065 - Did you tell him that you didn't agree to that? 781 00:31:50,066 --> 00:31:51,630 - Yes. 782 00:31:51,631 --> 00:31:53,630 I told him to slow down. 783 00:31:53,631 --> 00:31:56,065 I said I didn't want him to touch me down there. 784 00:31:56,066 --> 00:31:57,531 - And did that stop him? 785 00:31:57,532 --> 00:32:00,098 - No, he pushed up against me 786 00:32:00,099 --> 00:32:03,266 and tried to put his penis inside me. 787 00:32:04,698 --> 00:32:07,098 I said no again, 788 00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,298 but he kept rubbing up against me. 789 00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:11,797 He... 790 00:32:11,798 --> 00:32:13,831 he came on my dress. 791 00:32:17,099 --> 00:32:18,830 - Was that something you wanted? 792 00:32:18,831 --> 00:32:20,531 - No. 793 00:32:20,532 --> 00:32:22,764 He was hurting me. 794 00:32:22,765 --> 00:32:24,730 I'd never had sex with anyone before, 795 00:32:24,731 --> 00:32:27,597 but I knew that was not how I wanted it to be. 796 00:32:27,598 --> 00:32:31,265 - You didn't tell anyone about it that night. 797 00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:33,965 You even--you texted the defendant. 798 00:32:35,166 --> 00:32:38,331 - I was...humiliated. 799 00:32:38,332 --> 00:32:41,564 Too afraid to tell anyone. 800 00:32:41,565 --> 00:32:45,265 I eventually told my mom the truth. 801 00:32:45,266 --> 00:32:46,930 We went to the police, 802 00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:50,730 and I told them I'd been raped. 803 00:32:50,731 --> 00:32:53,765 - Abby, thank you. 804 00:33:00,132 --> 00:33:04,165 - Uh, I'm sorry you had a regrettable experience, Abby. 805 00:33:04,166 --> 00:33:06,664 Is it all right if I call you Abby? 806 00:33:06,665 --> 00:33:09,398 - Yeah, sure. 807 00:33:09,399 --> 00:33:11,065 - Let's you and I 808 00:33:11,066 --> 00:33:14,797 try and figure this out together, Abby. 809 00:33:14,798 --> 00:33:18,664 Starting from the beginning. 810 00:33:18,665 --> 00:33:22,065 Is it fair to say that you had a crush on Chris Roberts? 811 00:33:22,066 --> 00:33:25,065 - I guess. 812 00:33:25,066 --> 00:33:27,830 - Were you flattered when he texted you? 813 00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:29,497 - Kind of, but-- 814 00:33:29,498 --> 00:33:31,830 - I'm not saying it was love and marriage. 815 00:33:31,831 --> 00:33:33,098 Must be a nice guy. 816 00:33:33,099 --> 00:33:36,131 Why else would you go to the darkroom with him? 817 00:33:36,132 --> 00:33:37,897 - I thought he was nice. 818 00:33:37,898 --> 00:33:40,431 - Were you aware of the darkroom's reputation? 819 00:33:40,432 --> 00:33:41,897 - Objection. Relevance. 820 00:33:41,898 --> 00:33:43,764 - It goes to her state of mind, Your Honor. 821 00:33:43,765 --> 00:33:45,630 - I'll allow it. - At the very least, 822 00:33:45,631 --> 00:33:47,465 you probably knew you weren't going there 823 00:33:47,466 --> 00:33:49,131 to develop photographs. 824 00:33:49,132 --> 00:33:51,431 - I thought we were just going to kiss. 825 00:33:51,432 --> 00:33:53,897 - You mean like this? 826 00:33:53,898 --> 00:33:55,730 Defense exhibits 6A through D, Your Honor. 827 00:33:55,731 --> 00:33:57,065 Now, I know Mr. Barba 828 00:33:57,066 --> 00:33:58,730 already asked you about these photos, 829 00:33:58,731 --> 00:34:01,630 but it appears as if you were enjoying yourself. 830 00:34:01,631 --> 00:34:03,730 No need to be ashamed. I have a daughter too. 831 00:34:03,731 --> 00:34:05,964 I know how much she likes going to the dances. 832 00:34:05,965 --> 00:34:07,298 - Your Honor, is there a question here? 833 00:34:07,299 --> 00:34:08,864 - There is. 834 00:34:08,865 --> 00:34:11,864 Now, this was your first real date, wasn't it, Abby? 835 00:34:11,865 --> 00:34:12,864 - Yes. 836 00:34:12,865 --> 00:34:14,730 - You really wanted him to like you. 837 00:34:14,731 --> 00:34:16,797 Maybe you were a little nervous. 838 00:34:16,798 --> 00:34:18,131 - Sort of, a little. 839 00:34:18,132 --> 00:34:21,398 - Sure you were. Alone with a boy you liked. 840 00:34:21,399 --> 00:34:23,131 It was dark too. 841 00:34:23,132 --> 00:34:26,065 And maybe it was loud too, I'm assuming, 842 00:34:26,066 --> 00:34:27,497 what with all the music. 843 00:34:27,498 --> 00:34:28,897 - Yeah, it was. 844 00:34:28,898 --> 00:34:30,697 - So there was a lot going on. 845 00:34:30,698 --> 00:34:33,198 So is it possible that you got overwhelmed 846 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,065 and were unsure about what you really wanted, 847 00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:39,198 and that's why you never said no? 848 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,065 - I didn't exactly say no, 849 00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:45,365 but I told him not to go down...there. 850 00:34:45,366 --> 00:34:47,464 - Down there? Where? 851 00:34:47,465 --> 00:34:48,630 On the floor? 852 00:34:48,631 --> 00:34:50,065 - That's not what I meant. 853 00:34:50,066 --> 00:34:51,231 I wasn't into it. 854 00:34:51,232 --> 00:34:53,864 - Into what exactly? 855 00:34:53,865 --> 00:34:55,198 - Sex. 856 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,065 - You said the word "sex"? 857 00:34:58,066 --> 00:34:59,365 - No. 858 00:34:59,366 --> 00:35:01,430 I meant I wasn't into having sex. 859 00:35:01,431 --> 00:35:03,697 He knew that. 860 00:35:03,698 --> 00:35:05,864 - But how could he know that? 861 00:35:05,865 --> 00:35:07,298 Chris was nervous too. 862 00:35:07,299 --> 00:35:11,065 He was in a loud, dark room, the same as you. 863 00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:12,897 Did you think he could read your mind? 864 00:35:12,898 --> 00:35:14,897 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 865 00:35:14,898 --> 00:35:17,697 You were texting and talking in school. 866 00:35:17,698 --> 00:35:20,131 You didn't even think you'd been raped for four days. 867 00:35:20,132 --> 00:35:23,231 He had no idea that you'd had a bad evening 868 00:35:23,232 --> 00:35:25,231 until the police arrived at his door. 869 00:35:25,232 --> 00:35:26,430 - Your Honor, objection. 870 00:35:26,431 --> 00:35:27,964 - Ask a question, Mr. Buchanan. 871 00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:29,564 - Well, I'm just trying to understand, 872 00:35:29,565 --> 00:35:32,930 as I'm sure Chris and the jury are, 873 00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:36,098 how did we get here? 874 00:35:36,099 --> 00:35:39,530 - I knew I didn't want to have that happen to me. 875 00:35:39,531 --> 00:35:41,065 - But did Chris know? 876 00:35:41,066 --> 00:35:42,364 - I think he did. 877 00:35:42,365 --> 00:35:44,797 - You think? You think you were raped. 878 00:35:44,798 --> 00:35:46,764 You think you told him to stop. 879 00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:51,364 Isn't it possible that you went completely along with this 880 00:35:51,365 --> 00:35:53,065 and then regretted it later? 881 00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:54,131 - Objection. 882 00:35:54,132 --> 00:35:56,231 - Withdrawn. 883 00:35:56,232 --> 00:35:59,231 [tense music] 884 00:35:59,232 --> 00:36:07,498 * 885 00:36:09,066 --> 00:36:11,198 Nothing further. 886 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:19,232 * 887 00:36:26,099 --> 00:36:28,098 - I don't know what just happened. 888 00:36:28,099 --> 00:36:29,464 - It wasn't your fault, honey. 889 00:36:29,465 --> 00:36:31,330 - Let's go. - Testifying is never easy. 890 00:36:31,331 --> 00:36:33,098 - You could have protected her more. 891 00:36:33,099 --> 00:36:34,697 - Abby, the worst is over. 892 00:36:34,698 --> 00:36:36,298 - No, it's not. 893 00:36:36,299 --> 00:36:37,664 Chris is going to testify 894 00:36:37,665 --> 00:36:40,066 and tell everyone lies about me. 895 00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:49,166 . 896 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:50,865 - We were in the darkroom kissing. 897 00:36:52,931 --> 00:36:55,664 I kept asking if everything I was doing was okay, 898 00:36:55,665 --> 00:36:59,098 and she didn't say no, so I kept going. 899 00:36:59,099 --> 00:37:01,198 - How far did you go? 900 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,397 - I put my fingers inside her. 901 00:37:03,398 --> 00:37:05,098 I couldn't have done anything else 902 00:37:05,099 --> 00:37:06,664 even if we both wanted to, 903 00:37:06,665 --> 00:37:09,497 because I finished early. 904 00:37:09,498 --> 00:37:11,297 - Did you have sex with Abby Stewart? 905 00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:13,397 - No, I did not. 906 00:37:13,398 --> 00:37:16,065 - When you got home that night, 907 00:37:16,066 --> 00:37:18,231 how did you feel the evening had gone? 908 00:37:18,232 --> 00:37:19,297 - Good. 909 00:37:19,298 --> 00:37:20,764 I didn't think anything was wrong. 910 00:37:20,765 --> 00:37:22,930 I texted her. She texted me back. 911 00:37:22,931 --> 00:37:26,397 - So it sounds like she was sending you mixed messages. 912 00:37:26,398 --> 00:37:28,098 - If she was upset, I couldn't tell. 913 00:37:28,099 --> 00:37:30,397 - Now, Chris, there were two instances 914 00:37:30,398 --> 00:37:33,065 where you admit that you had lied. 915 00:37:33,066 --> 00:37:34,231 What was the first? 916 00:37:34,232 --> 00:37:35,597 - To the police. 917 00:37:35,598 --> 00:37:37,198 When I said we hadn't touched, 918 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,065 we had touched under our clothes, 919 00:37:39,066 --> 00:37:40,964 but we didn't have sex. 920 00:37:40,965 --> 00:37:42,165 - And the second? 921 00:37:42,166 --> 00:37:43,797 - To my friends. 922 00:37:43,798 --> 00:37:45,897 I told them I'd had sex with Abby 923 00:37:45,898 --> 00:37:48,530 because of the pressure to get a name on the wall, 924 00:37:48,531 --> 00:37:50,066 but it wasn't true. 925 00:37:54,298 --> 00:37:56,730 The club is disrespectful to girls. 926 00:37:56,731 --> 00:37:59,864 Me playing into that was stupid. 927 00:37:59,865 --> 00:38:01,864 I was afraid of being ridiculed. 928 00:38:01,865 --> 00:38:04,364 - By volunteering your testimony here today, 929 00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:06,165 you're risking just that. 930 00:38:06,166 --> 00:38:08,797 - I know, but I owe it to my family 931 00:38:08,798 --> 00:38:10,630 to explain my behavior, 932 00:38:10,631 --> 00:38:14,497 and I owe it to Abby's family too. 933 00:38:14,498 --> 00:38:16,830 If I upset her, I'm sorry. 934 00:38:16,831 --> 00:38:20,364 I wish things had gone differently. 935 00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:23,297 I know now that mixing dating and alcohol 936 00:38:23,298 --> 00:38:25,297 is a recipe for disaster 937 00:38:25,298 --> 00:38:28,797 and that clear communication is very important. 938 00:38:28,798 --> 00:38:30,664 - Thank you. 939 00:38:30,665 --> 00:38:31,964 I admire your courage 940 00:38:31,965 --> 00:38:36,764 for testifying so frankly here today. 941 00:38:36,765 --> 00:38:41,098 - You lied to the police 942 00:38:41,099 --> 00:38:43,131 and to your friends. 943 00:38:43,132 --> 00:38:45,297 Is that your story? 944 00:38:45,298 --> 00:38:46,964 - Yes. I'm not proud of it. 945 00:38:46,965 --> 00:38:48,930 - You did so because your friends were taunting you 946 00:38:48,931 --> 00:38:50,964 that you hadn't scored? 947 00:38:50,965 --> 00:38:52,330 - I wouldn't put it that way. 948 00:38:52,331 --> 00:38:53,764 - You'd call it making love? 949 00:38:53,765 --> 00:38:55,264 Or cherry picking? 950 00:38:55,265 --> 00:38:56,830 - Objection. - It's the name of the club. 951 00:38:56,831 --> 00:38:58,464 - Overruled. 952 00:38:58,465 --> 00:38:59,830 - Doesn't matter what I'd call it. 953 00:38:59,831 --> 00:39:01,830 I didn't do anything Abby didn't want. 954 00:39:01,831 --> 00:39:03,830 - So she went to the police, testified on the stand, 955 00:39:03,831 --> 00:39:05,864 was publicly humiliated and ostracized by her friends 956 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:07,664 for something that she made up? 957 00:39:07,665 --> 00:39:09,930 - No, she probably thinks she was raped. 958 00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:11,530 - Well, what does that tell you? 959 00:39:11,531 --> 00:39:13,897 - That she thinks that now, but she did want it at the time. 960 00:39:13,898 --> 00:39:15,364 - How can you be sure of what she was thinking 961 00:39:15,365 --> 00:39:16,430 or what she wanted? 962 00:39:16,431 --> 00:39:17,930 - Objection. Badgering. 963 00:39:17,931 --> 00:39:20,164 - Witness will answer. 964 00:39:20,165 --> 00:39:21,730 - I don't know if I can be sure, 965 00:39:21,731 --> 00:39:23,230 but she didn't say no. 966 00:39:23,231 --> 00:39:25,330 - She didn't say it or you didn't hear it? 967 00:39:25,331 --> 00:39:27,065 - I don't know. - Did you ever ask her? 968 00:39:27,066 --> 00:39:29,330 - No. - Did you ever hear a yes? 969 00:39:29,331 --> 00:39:31,297 No, because you weren't listening to her at all, 970 00:39:31,298 --> 00:39:32,464 were you? 971 00:39:32,465 --> 00:39:33,697 Your only concern was getting what you wanted, 972 00:39:33,698 --> 00:39:35,464 scoring, making it up onto that wall. 973 00:39:35,465 --> 00:39:39,066 Well, congratulations, you made it. 974 00:39:46,398 --> 00:39:49,098 Nothing further. 975 00:39:49,099 --> 00:39:52,098 [tense music] 976 00:39:52,099 --> 00:40:00,131 * 977 00:40:03,066 --> 00:40:04,997 - Hey. - Hey. 978 00:40:04,998 --> 00:40:08,031 - I just wanted to thank you. 979 00:40:08,032 --> 00:40:09,764 That was a good cross. 980 00:40:09,765 --> 00:40:12,330 You know, no matter what the jury decides, 981 00:40:12,331 --> 00:40:14,065 you did your job. 982 00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:15,897 - Did I? 983 00:40:15,898 --> 00:40:17,664 It was always a murky case. 984 00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:20,897 - Exactly the kind that we need to be fighting. 985 00:40:20,898 --> 00:40:22,797 The world is changing. 986 00:40:22,798 --> 00:40:24,930 We need new rules. 987 00:40:24,931 --> 00:40:26,430 - Rules of sexual engagement for teenagers? 988 00:40:26,431 --> 00:40:27,697 - Yes. 989 00:40:27,698 --> 00:40:30,930 California just passed affirmative consent. 990 00:40:30,931 --> 00:40:32,597 - We'll see how that goes. 991 00:40:32,598 --> 00:40:34,830 - Well, something needs to change. 992 00:40:34,831 --> 00:40:36,797 The problem is is that teenage boys 993 00:40:36,798 --> 00:40:38,630 even in college don't know what behavior 994 00:40:38,631 --> 00:40:40,564 might constitute rape. 995 00:40:40,565 --> 00:40:42,564 We need to make the lines clearer. 996 00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:43,964 [knock at door] 997 00:40:43,965 --> 00:40:45,497 - Jury's in. 998 00:40:45,498 --> 00:40:48,265 - Here we go. 999 00:40:50,798 --> 00:40:53,964 - Members of the jury, have you reached your verdict? 1000 00:40:53,965 --> 00:40:55,430 - We have, Your Honor. 1001 00:40:55,431 --> 00:40:57,397 - On the felony count of attempted rape, 1002 00:40:57,398 --> 00:40:58,964 how do you find? 1003 00:40:58,965 --> 00:41:02,064 - We find the defendant, Chris Roberts, 1004 00:41:02,065 --> 00:41:04,064 not guilty. 1005 00:41:04,065 --> 00:41:06,297 - On the misdemeanor count of forcible touching, 1006 00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:08,064 how do you find? 1007 00:41:08,065 --> 00:41:10,630 - Not guilty, Your Honor. 1008 00:41:10,631 --> 00:41:12,897 - On the misdemeanor count of sexual misconduct 1009 00:41:12,898 --> 00:41:15,564 in the first degree, how do you find? 1010 00:41:15,565 --> 00:41:17,064 - Guilty. 1011 00:41:17,065 --> 00:41:18,297 [crowd murmurs] - What? 1012 00:41:18,298 --> 00:41:20,064 - Members of the jury, 1013 00:41:20,065 --> 00:41:21,697 the court thanks you for your service. 1014 00:41:21,698 --> 00:41:23,697 You are free to go. 1015 00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:26,130 [bangs gavel] 1016 00:41:26,131 --> 00:41:27,530 - I hope you're happy. 1017 00:41:27,531 --> 00:41:28,664 Look what you did to my son. 1018 00:41:28,665 --> 00:41:30,064 - Abby. - Chris. 1019 00:41:30,065 --> 00:41:31,897 - Don't you talk to her. Don't you even look at her! 1020 00:41:31,898 --> 00:41:33,064 - I'm sorry. 1021 00:41:33,065 --> 00:41:34,464 - Now you're sorry? 1022 00:41:34,465 --> 00:41:35,697 - Don't you apologize to him, sweetie. 1023 00:41:35,698 --> 00:41:36,964 - Now is not the time. 1024 00:41:36,965 --> 00:41:38,230 - Abby, you have nothing to apologize for. 1025 00:41:38,231 --> 00:41:39,564 - You can't tell me that she didn't know 1026 00:41:39,565 --> 00:41:41,864 what was gonna happen when she went into that room. 1027 00:41:41,865 --> 00:41:43,897 - You all can lie to yourselves all you want! 1028 00:41:43,898 --> 00:41:45,697 We know exactly what your son is! 1029 00:41:45,698 --> 00:41:47,697 And now he's on the registry, and everyone will know! 1030 00:41:47,698 --> 00:41:50,064 - We know what your daughter is! - Enough! Enough! 1031 00:41:50,065 --> 00:41:51,730 Enough! Enough! 1032 00:41:51,731 --> 00:41:54,730 [gentle music] 1033 00:41:54,731 --> 00:41:58,730 * 1034 00:41:58,731 --> 00:42:01,097 - Chris. 1035 00:42:01,098 --> 00:42:03,097 - Abby, let's go. 1036 00:42:03,098 --> 00:42:11,131 *