the reunion...
- You said that I had to sleep with someone to get saved.
That's [bleep] up.
- Don't puff your chest out now.
- One thing I don't do is lie,
so I definitely did not make that [bleep] up out of nowhere.
- She heard you and Laurel hooked up recently.
What's the story there?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
[cheers and applause]
What's up, world? Welcome to part two
of "The Challenge: Ride or Die's Reunion."
I'm Maria Menounos.
Let's dive into this.
Anyone feel bad about rooting against Turbo?
- Turbo sucks. both: No.
- No, no. - He stinks.
- Well, it's always important
to hear both sides of the story.
♪ ♪
Here to give us his version,
please welcome Turbo.
- Ah, [bleep]. - Come on.
Bring his bitch-ass out here.
- Just kidding.
[laughter]
Turbo was supposed to join us tonight,
but at the last minute, he was unable to make it.
He did, however, in true Turbo fashion, send a video.
- Why does he always... - Pussy chickens,
take a look. - Send videos?
- Yeah.
- Welcome to Karma Café. There is no menu.
You will get served what you deserve.
Roses are red, violets are blue.
I got five fingers, middle one for you, Devin.
I was thinking Tori was use you,
but I realize you are useless.
I will see you again, level-two pussy chicken.
And, Tori, you have a good tell.
You always find the best pussy chickens
and make them champion.
And also, you should have open
two social media accounts, one for each face.
Nelson, you are much smarter when you don't speak.
Take this money and buy a brain.
If you have enough money,
buy two bottle of champagne for Laurel.
Oh, Banana, I would slap you,
but that would be animal abuse.
That's why when you saw me, don't be afraid, brother.
You're always safe.
Everything is getting expensive except some people.
They are getting cheaper, like you, Nany.
And, Fessy--
ah, you are not that much important, brother.
Never mind.
Hey, cheaters.
I don't like you, but my middle finger loves you.
This elimination prove
that it's me against all challenger.
Otherwise, it's not fair.
You guys prove that you're all pussy chickens,
but I give you guarantee
I'm gonna take my revenge one by one.
After this cheating, if you call yourself challenger,
then I am the challenge.
If you didn't like this message,
take your map, get the car,
and drive to hell.
Have a nice day.
[beep]
Oh, and one last thing.
Trash gets picked up tomorrow,
so, Banana, pussy chicken Jordan,
and level-two pussy chicken Devin,
be ready.
[ripping]
[crunch]
- Oh, my God. - Oh, my God.
[engine revving]
[laughter and applause]
- Tori, your face was on the ground too.
What are your reactions? - Yeah. No.
Best film I've ever seen in my life.
'Cause, honestly, I actually--
- It made me like him more. - Incredible propaganda.
I really like him, and I will break every alliance I have
because I want to work with him.
- Yeah! - No, I really feel that way.
I'm a fan.
- That's just nasty. Mm, I'm not a fan.
So what's funny is, is that I'm cheap,
but yeah, I'm the one who helped him get $750,000.
- Oh. - Damn.
- Wow. - All right.
- Yeah, Nany. - And now you're mad
because we sent his ass home? [bleep] all of you.
- Also, we got a lot to get to, so let's keep it moving.
This game is all about making deals,
but sometimes the player you want to ride with
would rather die.
Check your side mirror.
Friends are not as close as they appear.
- You're my, like, sister.
I never would have done that, ever, to you.
If you don't have the one person that you love the most
riding for you, en do you have?
- My God, is this how you won Survivor?
Because I don't know if these are real tears or fake tears,
but this is really good.
- When I say my top four,
Chauncey, who is in my top four?
- You guys are right there with us.
Always. - Right there.
- I'm in your top four, but I also have a top four too.
- Yeah, and I'm not in that. - And you're not.
- When it's time to vote, then it's, like, ride or die.
How much "ride or die" are we?
I'm probably gonna leave her in this bar.
- I'm not sure if I could trust Fessy
in this game anymore because he's made it very clear
that this game is about him.
- It's common sense that if your ride or die
is about to get voted in and you could tie up the votes,
that you don't burn vote here and say Chauncey.
You have to say Nelson.
- So my vote is for Chauncey.
♪ ♪
- Wow.
- She burns her vote,
and then her ride or die ends up going in.
Amateur.
- So, Moriah, you and Faysal were a great duo,
and everything was strong until you guys broke up.
He told Kaycee his strategy
was to keep you in the dark. - Yes.
- Do you feel like your ride or die abandoned you?
- Well, I thought it was very funny
because I saw online
that you pinned a comment saying that I turned on you,
and that is such a lie.
I saw you outside of the house as a kind,
considerate, nice person, thoughtful.
So when we get in the house and I see how you truly were,
I was like, damn, so this is what people say about you,
and maybe it's actually true.
And you said a lot of shady stuff.
And I would respect you more if you said it to me
because you're not someone that I met in this house.
A lot of these people, I met you guys,
there was lots of times I wanted to tell you guys
to shut the [bleep] up,
but I didn't because I'm attached to him.
I literally had no voice, but I wanted to be like,
"Dude, shut up. I don't even like you."
- Who don't you like? both: Aneesa.
- Oh. - Yeah, and you know that.
Like, you didn't treat me that nice.
You were very dismissive. I would talk to you.
And then you were only nice to me at certain times, OK?
You also would say slick stuff. You said that--
you said that I had to sleep with someone to get saved.
That's [bleep] up. That's not true.
- Don't puff your chest out now.
- Listen-- - You had--no.
I'ma tell you something. - OK, say it.
- I've been doing this for a long [bleep] time.
- Yes. - And I am nice to everyone.
I am not a bitch. - Debatable.
- No. You're younger than me. - "Debatable."
- We don't really have a lot in common.
I've made one amazing friend in 21
that I trust with my life.
- I don't know how I skated out of this.
- You don't know [bleep] about me.
- I heard a lot from a lot of people in here.
So keep going. - I don't give a [bleep].
- Listen. - I don't use Twitter.
- You want to throw shade on the podcast, which is fine.
I respond. Expect it. - All I said was that
you didn't have a voice. You didn't say [bleep]
because it's your first time. - And that's OK.
That's OK. - It's your first time.
- But you said something, and I responded.
- So I'm responding to what you're saying.
- Yeah. So what's the problem, dude?
- Like I said, you saw me in a hotel.
You didn't say this when we were out eating.
- You talked about it. - So don't do this [bleep] now
because you don't want to. - So listen, they asked me.
- Um... - We got way off track.
I mean, how did that happen?
- All right. Next question. - I know.
- So Faysal, Moriah tweeted.
You said, "Not my partner, not my problem."
You have since pinned some shady comments about Moriah.
What's your response to her tweet?
- I did bring up that comment that I brought her there
when she was trying to get Jordan and Johnny.
- But I didn't say that at that time.
- I was like, that's how I felt in the moment.
And maybe it was [bleep] up I said that,
but that's how I was feeling.
But the "not my partner, not my problem"
when she was sick, I never said that.
And if I did say that--
- You said it-- - You said it to me verbatim.
- Yeah, if I said that, it was a joke
about, like, when she's freaking out about--
like, before a challenge. I was like,
"Oh, that's on y'all. Not my problem no more."
So I'm joking. - What was he referring to?
- No, I didn't even know she was sick.
- No, he did. I told you,
which is why you made that comment.
I told him. I was like,
"Oh, can you go check on Moriah? She's really sick.
I'm here to make her some food or medicine or something."
And he was like, "I don't care.
She's not my partner anymore, so that's not my problem."
So as her friend, I went back and I told her,
"Just so you know, act accordingly
because he does not give a [bleep] about you anymore."
- That sounds accurate. - Faysal?
- Nope. - One thing I don't do is lie,
and everybody here knows that, so I definitely
did not make that [bleep] up out of nowhere.
- I'm sorry if you, you know, felt like I disrespected you,
but I tried to respect you the whole game
and cheer you on the best way I could.
I know our circumstances weren't the best,
but that was the reality of it.
They asked for a female partner.
I thought of you. I thought you'd be great.
I thought we crushed it the whole season.
- You guys did. - I feel like you guys
probably have to have a whole other conversation,
so I'm gonna let you guys handle that offstage...
- Come on. Let's go. - Because we've got a lot
of betrayals to get to.
Michele, you felt really betrayed
when Nany nominated you, and you called her a sister.
So fans were a little confused because they haven't seen
any kind of relationship really form.
You guys had done a season together.
So where did you guys develop that closeness
that you spoke of? - All right.
Well, number-- - No, no, no.
I will speak on this because I think it's important.
She's dealt with a lot.
And what I was going through going into this season,
she could relate to.
We did have that connection of grief, of loss,
of just so much more than the game.
Watching the scene of you crying
and me just staring at you,
I truly feel in my heart
that I-I was so numb
to anybody else's emotions.
I...
I couldn't empathize with you, and that's not me.
- It was my own spiral.
Like, it was truly my own spiral.
And I could have just talked to you in a rational way,
and it could have been, like, solved, no problem,
but I was just having a meltdown.
I was caught off guard, and it really was
just a classic Micheletdown.
And it's embarrassing.
I hate watching it back.
If we could burn the tapes, that would be great.
But no, me and Nany are good.
- Yeah. - I don't hold it against her.
I hated what she was going through
and, like, I empathized with that.
And, like, it was just so embarrassing.
- All right. Well, it's good to see
you guys have moved past this.
Coming up, did Tori and Jordan's reunion
have them second-guessing their breakup?
Find out next.
- It such a big hurdle, you know?
I'm just thankful we're here now, and I love you, you know?
- You saying I was boyfriend number two,
like, that was funny as well.
Draft pick number one, that's what I'm thinking.
- Yes.
- Who the hell told you guys
that we had a "group chat" where we were talking [bleep]
about Amber? 'Cause I never happened.
- I'm like, that's fake energy to me.
[cheers and applause]
- We're back with more "Challenge Reunion."
The daggers made their way to London.
And tonight, the challengers can skip any fan question
as long as they pull the safe dagger.
So Matt asks, "Horacio, Faysal said
"that if women in the house were talking to you,
"it's because he didn't have enough time for them.
What's your response to that?"
- Wow.
[laughter]
- I mean, that's hilarious. [laughter]
- It was a comment because, like,
with the whole Laurel and Michele thing,
like, Michele had pinned me up against the wall
and was like, "What are you doing? I got other options."
And then me and Laurel, we're getting to know each other.
So I was like, I can't be all these places at once, so...
- Like, that's a weird way to think about it.
Like he's boyfriend number two?
Like, there were interests-- - Yeah, that thing.
Like, you saying I was boyfriend number two,
like, that was funny as well.
Draft pick number one, that's what I'm thinking.
- Yes. - I mean, if Horacio
would have given me a shot, I would've taken it.
- I second that. - All right.
Tori entered this season with her eyes on the prize,
but little did she know, her path to $1 million
would include difficult conversations
and in-your-face PDA.
Take a look.
- Let's bring in a good friend to this game.
- Who?
- Jordan. [cheering]
- Jordan is here.
I haven't seen Jordan in a year and a half, since we broke up.
- The toughest part about walking back into this house
is seeing Tori,
because all of these feelings, they come back.
- I'm sorry I put you through
what I put you through when we were together.
I love you as a person.
I will always have your back.
- And you know I'll always have yours.
We cuddle, and we wrestle.
It's just very easy to fall back into this comfort zone.
[dramatic music]
- Watching somebody move on is life,
but when you're in a competition,
it's way heavier than it would be in the outside world
because I have to deal
with it happening right in front of my face.
- Is it hard to see your ex-significant other snuggling,
hooking up with people in front of your face?
- I've already apologized for all that [bleep].
And since then, you've laid in my bed with me.
I've been naked. We've said we love each other.
You said you wanted to see me out of this.
- I still love you. - OK.
That's not you act when you love somebody.
At this point in time, my relationship with Jordan
is only about the game.
I have absolutely no interest
in even, like, trying to salvage a friendship
out of this because there's no way to communicate with him.
- Aw. - [whistles]
- So, Jordan, you hadn't spoken with Tori
since you guys had broken off your engagement.
What was it like seeing her for the first time?
- Scariest moment of my "Challenge" career.
Like, I mean, walking into the game then,
like, I literally felt like I was going into elimination,
you know, just 'cause I knew, like, we're going to talk,
we're going to see each other, live with each other,
and, like, the Band-Aid is being ripped off.
- It was a lot to handle. It really was.
- I think you did a great job. - Thank you.
- Aneesa, you and Tori obviously are best friends.
And you were Jordan's ride or die.
Were you worried at all about that whole dynamic?
- Of course. - Yeah.
- I was frightened.
It was hard because I knew that I'd,
as a friend, be there for her 1,000%,
as a ride or die, be there for him,
but it was kind of like--
that's a really hard space to navigate.
So I tried to, then,
still remain pretty, like, even and respectful
of how they both felt.
I didn't really want to be involved.
- So Tori, that moment in the bar,
where you were apologizing to Jordan
about how all that played out,
was that a conversation you feel like you had
been wanting to have for a long time?
- Yeah. Oh, my God.
I mean, like, I'm just-- - It's OK.
- I'm really thankful. I'm really thankful.
And, like-- [sobbing]
- Oh, you're making me cry now.
- That was such a big hurdle, you know?
I'm just thankful we're here now.
No matter what the path was to get us here,
like, that was really heavy in my life.
- You're thankful that you guys had this kind of healing time.
- Yeah, I really am. Like, I really needed it.
I really care about him as a person.
Like, from both sides, I hurt him at some point really bad.
It was just, like, tit for tat, tit for tat for a while.
And, like, it came to a head like this,
and that was, like, really-- it was a hard pill to swallow,
so I'm thankful that we're friends.
I really, really am.
You know, I'm sorry I put you through everything
I put you through. - No, I'm sorry.
Tori, I'm really sorry. - Thank you.
I love you, you know? - You know I love you.
- I know, yeah. - I love you so much.
- Oh, man. Oh, gosh, you got me.
Jordan, you were adamant that your past with Tori
wouldn't stop you from exploring things with Nurys.
So why lay in bed with Tori?
- Because it's safe, right?
And at the time, laying in bed with Tori,
I don't know the future, right?
And, like, Nurys and I hadn't--
like, we weren't, like, planning anything.
Like, we flirted, but, like, I flirt with everybody,
you know what I mean? - Got it.
And, Nurys, were you aware of their history?
- Yeah, I knew.
I wouldn't necessarily say I regret it,
but if I could do it all over again,
I definitely wouldn't have put myself in that place
because I felt so bad hurting Tori.
- Aw, it worked out. It's all good.
- So you guys are both in LA now.
- We decided to just be friends.
And that's what it's been since,
has been just a friendship.
We should have done that on the show.
- Got it.
And, Tori, where is your relationship with Jordan now?
- Now we get to look at each other
with the most respect as possible
after everything we put each other through,
after all the ups and downs,
and truly have each other's backs.
Like, I would still pick Devin as my ride or die over you,
but I love you.
- Oh. [laughter]
- Wow. Wow. - Wow.
- Well, I'm really happy
that you guys got the closure that you guys needed
and that you guys are happy and friends.
Coming up, some ride or dies were dying to ride each other.
[exclaiming]
We're getting all the updates next.
[cheering]
- I love you. - I love you too.
- I'm really thankful for you. - I'm always thankful for you.
- I didn't expect us to be married,
but I expected us to be friends.
- I expected us to be friends. You're the one that blocked me.
- Ooh.
- When was the last time you guys got together?
- Can I pull the dagger? - No.
- Oh. - Sorry.
- Oh, my God.
[cheers and applause]
- We're back with more "Challenge Reunion."
Forget the house. Hookups started at the airport.
Once bunks are picked,
the final hurdle is making it happen in a twin bed.
[laughs] Take a look.
[laughter]
- All right, people, we all know the game begins
when you get to the airport.
So Johnny and Nurys had a couple of drinks,
started making out.
And the whole cast saw that.
- I'm sorry. Can you help me take this clip off?
- Horacio and I, our beds are like this next to each other,
so I wake up and, like, he's just, like, there,
shirtless, right next to me.
And I'm like... [gasps]
Oh, hello. Like, hi.
- He basically told me that, like, before he came here,
he was, like, talking to some girl.
And now, I feel, like, very weird.
- Bananas is not usually my type,
but since his personality is so amazing,
I do think that Bananas is cute.
But my mom told me to be careful for him.
She told me that he's a sneaky snake.
- Olivia.
Those pretty blue eyes and that smile.
Am I in love?
- Nelson and Olivia are a match made in heaven.
They're both little horndogs.
They're cute,
until they're keeping me up at 3:00 a.m.
- Make no mistake. He is still Messy Fessy.
You have Michele, who, according to the rumor mill,
has been in and out of his bed,
Laurel, who's been hopping into his bed.
And you've also got him pursuing Analyse
and Colleen simultaneously.
- I think the truth is,
when it comes to spending time with women,
I genuinely am trying to get to know them.
I am listening.
And I think that's refreshing for a lot of these women.
- So what does "Faysal" translate to again?
- "Faysal" translates to the decision maker.
And I guess this season, I'm gonna have to make a decision.
- Faysal, has the decision-making around women
gotten any better in your mind?
- So... [laughter]
When it comes to getting to know women,
I don't put, like, expectations on them.
If something happens beyond a friendship, cool,
but if not, like, I'm not gonna make no advances on them.
And that's what I was trying to get at.
I think a lot of guys are too fast
at, like, jumping the gun.
And I think that's why, you know,
I get to know a lot of these women
'cause I don't pressure them into anything.
- But feelings do get hurt along the way,
like, where everybody is kind of in limbo,
like, what's going on here?
I think it's just a little bit confusing.
- The girls [bleep] with Fessy,
you're [bleep] with a guy
whose name is Messy Fessy, right?
- So, Michele...Michele... [laughter]
Michele, do you still feel like you're in limbo with him?
- No, no. Absolutely [bleep] not.
No, because I know what I'm looking for.
I mean, he's absolutely amazing.
He can't fill that thing that I need.
And I know that about him. And I accept that about him.
It was just confusing when I was getting to know him
and I was, like,
trying to figure all of that out at the time.
- I mean, I know I have a hard time narrowing down,
you know, what I want and all this,
but, I mean, I don't know.
- Do you, king.
- If you're honest, then there's nothing
anybody can hold against you... - Exactly.
- If you're telling the truth to people.
But let's keep this train going.
Horacio, you said you had a girl at home.
What happened with her? - It was short-lived.
It only lasted, like, three weeks because of the distance.
- OK. Laurel, did you feel like he led you on?
- I knew he was dating a girl. He had told me that.
I was dating somebody. I had told him that.
But the one critical piece of information
that he did not tell me was,
"I'm gonna ask that girl to be my girlfriend."
And I think that, unfortunately,
I wish I would have known that one piece of information
because then I wouldn't have let my feelings go.
And I'm not ashamed of having feelings for him.
He's a wonderful person.
And I--
- He's OK. - Aw.
- Don't cry.
- You're good. And you're beautiful.
- [voice breaks] That's it.
- Well, it's so tough to see Laurel in that state.
And I've apologized so many times to her.
You know me. I'm just quiet.
I'm that quiet guy.
And then I find out you talk Spanish.
To me, that's like, oh wow.
Like, I could be myself in a sense.
I don't know. It kind of liberated me.
So I start connecting with you,
and everything just grew so nicely.
I don't want to say I completely lead you on,
but then at the same time, I do feel like I did.
- Well, I know fans have seen you guys
commenting on each other's socials.
So have you guys seen each other since the show?
- Uh, yeah.
[laughter]
- So, Horacio, what's happening?
- I am attracted to Laurel,
and I can't deny the fact that there could be something.
And I just don't know if--
if I'm 100% there. I don't know.
- I don't know if I'm 100% there yet either,
so we're kind of in the same spot.
It's--
you know, who knows?
- Only time will tell. - OK, let's switch gears.
Nurys, you said earlier that
you and Johnny hooked up after the show.
When was the last time
you guys got together? - Ooh, bitch.
- Oh, wait. Can I pull the dagger?
- No. Sorry. - Oh.
- Oh, my God. [laughter]
Nurys, let it out.
- Last night.
[exclaiming]
- No matter the beef, no matter how many times she blocks me--
- He is blocked right now on everything.
He is. He is. - Right.
Every time we do see each other in person,
we always vibe with each other,
and we always get along with each other.
And then, things just kind of
get to where they go. - So it's love-hate?
Let's move on.
[laughter]
So, Nelson, I know that when we were watching those clips,
you were really, really emotional over there.
You guys did seem pretty inseparable.
What happened?
- I think that's a question for her, not me.
- I mean...
There's a lot to unpack here.
So when he got eliminated, there was,
I think, like, three weeks or something I was by myself.
And I almost needed that time to, like, heal
from just even, like, past relationships.
And with that and the golf ball situation,
um, I was dealing with a lot.
And so, when I left the show,
I kind of just needed time for myself.
And I definitely pushed him away.
- You know, people have told me,
don't put your feelings into everything
'cause you never know what to expect afterwards
in the real world,
because this game that we're in, it's a dream.
And I guess I put all my feelings in.
And, um... [sighs]
- Was there some reason that you guys discussed
where this isn't gonna work?
- [scoffs] I don't know.
She forgot about me.
And her closest friends told her, like,
"Don't date this guy because of his past."
I'm not the same guy I was back then.
I was a--
I wasn't a man. I was a boy.
And I didn't treat women with respect.
But when I saw her and I had this opportunity
and she made me smile and laugh and she accepted who I was,
I was like, yo, this is the girl.
And things just came to... - Aw, man.
I don't know where we stand right now.
- Olivia, what are your thoughts on what he's saying?
- I think that I thought this was gonna be right for me,
and what it came down to is, like,
I need to be full and whole in my own first.
Aneesa and me got really close,
and me and Tori got really close.
And, like, they helped me also
just, like, understand, like, it's OK to be alone
and it's OK to be, like, independent.
And I was never comfortable with that
because I always felt like I needed someone to complete me.
And so, it's not even him.
It's, like, he was in the backlash of everything.
And I feel bad. Like, I do.
- I didn't expect us to be married,
but I expected us to be friends.
- I expected us to be friends. You're the one that blocked me.
- Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
I feel like you took everyone's perspective about me,
my reputation in the past,
and it dictated and made me the man I am today, which I'm not.
- No, I've learned from patterns in my past.
And I've added them up,
and it equals, probably wouldn't work.
- It's cool, though. Like, you weren't in the place
where I was, and I had to respect that.
I can't be mad at you that you didn't want
to be in a relationship with me.
I can't.
It hurts seeing you
because, like, you made me so happy.
- Aw.
- I feel for him,
but I have to be honest with myself.
And I am sorry.
- It's whatever. - Like, I really am.
- I can tell both of you are having, you know, a hard time,
but we have to move on, unfortunately.
- Oh, God. I can't. - What's going on?
- Get this. Get this. - Go over there.
- We just directed a little bit.
- No, Nelson, that's not what--
- Then what it was? - It was more than that.
I was not ready for a relationship.
- But it didn't happen until you went to Alaska.
You asked me to go to Alaska. - Yeah, because I got clarity.
- Clarity of what? - Of what I wanted in my life.
- You invited me to Alaska. - I know.
- Did you not? - Yes, I did.
- And then it changed. Then you went to Hawaii.
- Yes. Yes. - Then you went to LA.
Then you became a city girl. Did you not?
- OK. I'm done with this. - Is that not true?
Is that not true? - No.
- OK, then. Whatever. - Oh, my God.
- I was skeptical about their friendship too
because I didn't know if we should actually
have his back or not.
- Jordan, Tori said
she heard you and Laurel hooked up recently.
What's the story there?
[exclaiming]
[cheers and applause]
- We are back
with "The Challenge: Ride or Die's Reunion."
Let's talk to friends with a checkered past.
Faysal's betrayal on "Double Agents"
left Nelson wondering if their friendship was a lie.
Lucky for Faysal, Nelson is the ultimate ride or die.
Take a look. - Yes, you are.
- On my first season of "The Challenge,"
me and Nelson were cool.
And then on my second season, I voted myself into elimination
against him, and I sent him home.
- If I wanted payback,
I definitely wouldn't be rooming with you.
And we wouldn't be friends.
That's not the kind of guy I am.
But you definitely got some making up to do.
[laughter]
- Faysal and Moriah, pick your dagger.
- Oh please, Lord.
[dramatic music]
- [bleep]!
- Oh, [bleep]. - Oh, my.
- God, bro.
- Now, which pair do you want to keep safe with you?
- [exhales sharply]
Fessy and Moriah.
You about to be mad at me.
Me and Fessy been rocking together,
so we're holding it down.
- So you mean to tell me
you've kind of gotten friends with the enemy?
- [laughs]
- The worst-case scenario is
either I get voted in or Nelson get voted in
and we go against each other.
We're real-life friends,
and I would hate to be the one to send him home.
[grunting]
- Wow. - Yes!
- Yeah, Fess!
♪ ♪
[air horn blares]
- It's all good, brother.
[both panting]
I'm proud of you. - I'm proud of you too, man.
- Aw. - That's very nice.
- You're just a great guy. - You're the man, dog.
- Great attitude. - He's the best.
- So, Faysal, how important was it for you
to kind of improve on things in your friendship?
- A lot of [bleep] happens in this game.
You're forced to make decisions, selfish decisions.
But all that stuff ends,
and then you live real life outside of this.
And, you know, Nelson is one of the few people on the cast
that I actually hang out with in real life.
I think, you know, Nelson having a good heart
and us seeing that we are similar in real life
and we do benefit from each other's friendships
and cherish it,
you know, it just makes sense working together in the game,
because even though there is a past,
he could trust me and I could trust him
more than we could trust most people in here.
- So, Nelson, I know there's a lot going on over there.
I can feel it. - Yeah.
- So how many strikes does somebody get
before you-- [clicks tongue]
- I don't know, man.
I don't count strikes. - Mm.
- I can either act on revenge or I can apply forgiveness.
And that's the man I'm trying to be.
I've been in his shoes before. I've made mistakes.
You know, I can't predict what he does.
And we'll see.
- I was skeptical about their friendship too
because I didn't know if we should actually
have his back or not.
And I feel like he did prove that
throughout the entire season.
He even had my back.
And I feel like that kind of shows,
like, improvement in who Fessy is
because he had no loyalty to me at that point.
- Does anyone here feel like
he should have taken the shot at Faysal?
- Yeah, I told him to.
I said, "Think about what happened.
Take that into consideration."
And, you know, he did, and he made his own decision.
And I respect that, but, you know,
it's not the way I would play.
- And Cory, he was upset with me.
He said, "Bro, why didn't you take revenge?"
And I sat Cory down. I was, like, "Bro."
I was like, "I've done that in the past,
"but revenge just keeps going on in a circle.
How do we prevail and be a better person?"
And that's what I wanted to be, you know?
That's what I wanted to show. - Facts.
- So you're happy you made that decision?
- Yeah. - Good job, Nelly T.
- For Nelly to be able to learn
and be vulnerable the way he is
and play with his heart on his sleeve...
And he knows it's not the smartest way to play,
but he plays with honor and integrity.
You play with your heart, and you give everything you got,
and that is how you become a legend.
And you're a legend. - Not a champion, though.
- You don't have to have a title to be a champ.
- You don't. - You made it.
- No one is like you, Nelly. There's no one like you.
- And never [bleep] forget that!
- Everything takes time.
- He's a great friend, and it shows.
And I think we need more people like that.
- 10 of 10. - 100%, yeah.
- You're 10 of 10, Nelly.
- Coming up, practice your draw.
Dagger questions are coming.
[applause]
- I don't want to throw this person under the bus
because I said I wouldn't even say anything.
- "Chauncey, you tweeted the girls on season 38 are fake.
Who specifically were you talking about?"
- I was trying to be a nice guy and lend out my clothes,
and people started [bleep] on them, I guess.
[applause]
- Welcome back to "The Challenge Reunion."
We got more fan questions.
Let's see if they send challengers
running for the daggers.
Quinn wants to know, "Jordan, on the 'Challenge Podcast,'
"Tori said she heard you and Laurel hooked up recently.
What's the story there?"
- OK, yeah. I'll pull it.
[laughter]
both: Aw.
- Dang, you gotta answer.
- Define "recently."
- Within this last year.
- No. - I just want to say this.
I was being petty when I was speaking on it
because I still feel like it wasn't my business.
It wasn't my business. - No, no.
I feel like I have respect for you,
you have respect for Jordan.
We all have respect for each other.
Like, Jordan and I were in a relationship.
We loved each other.
There will always be love there.
When you ended your engagement, I cared about him,
and I just wanted to say,
I'm here for you if you need to talk,
with no intention to, like, do anything.
And I happened to be on an externship in California.
And I went to go and visit him.
But that was, like, over a year ago.
I don't want you to feel, like,
any way about it. - I don't.
I almost feel bad because he told me that in confidence,
and I was just petty on a podcast.
- Oh.
- Honestly, I don't feel bad at all.
And I'm happy that you guys have what you have.
I'm happy we have what we have, and we can move on.
- All right. - Leanne asks,
"Chauncey, you tweeted
"the girls on season 38 are fake.
Who specifically were you talking about?"
- Damn. - Um...
- Pull a dagger. - Dagger.
- A'ight, I'ma pull a dagger first.
- You know it's not the left one.
- The left one. - No, pull one over--
- Oh.
- [bleep]. - OK, well...
So basically, I was just saying, like,
a lot of the girls, from what I've seen,
would, like, be so nice to Amber.
And then we would hear stuff
about them talking [bleep] behind her back.
And so, I'm like, OK, that's fake energy to me.
I even talked to Aneesa on her podcast.
And I said that you called her a snake
and I don't [bleep] with that, you know what I'm saying?
So I targeted it towards Aneesa.
I won't lie. And I did tell you that, again.
I did target it towards Nurys, and then that's about it.
- I still want to know right now
who the hell here lied to you guys and told you guys
that we had a "group chat" where we were talking [bleep]
about Amber? 'Cause that never happened.
Because whoever told you guys that
is a [bleep] liar.
- My thing is, is, like,
I don't want to throw this person under the bus
because I said I wouldn't even say anything.
And that, right there, I said that to her.
- Well, we know it's a girl.
- I want to respect that. - All right.
Let's pivot to a really important topic
that came up this season.
Tori, you opened up
about your mental health journey this season.
And thank you for sharing that, first off,
because I think it was really incredible.
Why did you feel like talking
about your mental health journey was so important?
- It's so crazy. It was the easiest thing to talk about,
because, like, I've had to be on this stage
and have so many difficult conversations
and own up to really hard things.
But to, like, sit here and to, like, try to heal
and work through things, like, it's respectful.
And I respect myself for it, and I'm so happy.
I literally am the best I've ever been.
- What made you want to focus on your mental health
in the first place?
- Well, I was deteriorating.
And I got to a point where it just got hard.
- You were suffering. - Yeah.
- And there's no need to suffer if you don't have to.
all: Yeah. - But I took it out
on so many people I really cared about,
but not intentionally.
Yeah, God, it sucks. - It's OK to cry.
- I'm really thankful I am who I am today.
I don't want to be a burden.
And I'm responsible for myself and my own happiness,
so happy tears. - Good.
- Love that. - Hell yeah.
- Thank you. - Happy for you.
- I love you, Tori. - All right.
Amber, backstage, you shared something really personal.
And I want to give you an opportunity
to share with everybody
something important that's occurred in your life recently.
- First of all, this is the first time
I'm sharing this with anyone
except for my family and Chauncey.
I was diagnosed as autistic.
- So tell us a little bit about that kind of process for you.
How did you come to get that diagnosis?
- I struggle in social settings.
And this pressure has been so much on me.
And I've taken meds
for depression and anxiety in this game,
and I've told people I haven't because it was embarrassing.
- Are you good? - It's OK.
- No, but it was embarrassing for people to be like--
to make it seem like it wasn't working.
So it was something deeper.
And so, after 38, I went through--
you know, I really needed help.
It's been so hard, and I had to figure out
why I'm this person, and why my whole life,
I've felt the way I've felt and I am this way.
I'm trying to find my own community of people
that understand that.
- Yeah, you were sharing with me
kind of how there's autistic traits that you experience.
Like, I think it was called mirroring or masking.
Can you explain to everyone what that means?
- This is a fairly new journey for me.
I am still learning a lot about the diagnosis.
Basically, like, I camouflage myself to fit in.
So if I see someone hugging someone--
like, doing something, like, I feel I have to mirror that.
Like, I stim a lot, which I don't know if you guys know.
I, like, rub my hands or I bite my lip or twirl my hair.
I don't know, it's difficult
finding out later also in life, you know?
I wish I would have found out a lot sooner
because I've struggled with my identity for 34 years.
But I love me.
And it's also given me the chance
to, you know, embrace this amazing person I am.
I'm not used to doing this. I'm so sorry.
- Don't be sorry. - You're not judged at all.
- No. both: Yeah.
- Your diagnosis does not define you.
We've loved you before this,
and we'll continue to love you after.
- And you're saying you're seeking out this new community
of people that accepts you, and I want to tell you, Amber,
that, like, when we're on a show, and we're all filming,
and we're in that pressure cooker,
it really is sometimes difficult
for people to really have compassion and to be supportive
because we're all fighting for the same thing.
But I don't want you to think that
you're on this stage alone.
I don't want you to think that you're in this world alone.
We really do, like, care about you.
We really do support you, even though it may not come across.
- You're the man. That was so sweet.
- We love you, Amber. - We love you.
- I'm just glad and happy
that she's able to do it with all you guys
and so you guys could see who she really is--
or see her for her.
- One more thing is, like,
I want to just be a good influence
to other neurodivergent people out there.
You could do whatever you want. I mean, I'm here.
It feels good to, I don't know, be myself.
And I just want you guys to know that this is me.
- And you're a champion, and we love you.
And great job. - Thank you, guys.
- We'll be right back.
There is one thing I did hear about backstage,
something about a hookup with Faysal,
something to do with your fur coat.
- [gasps] - Whoo!
[cheering]
- That's how you get a girl pregnant.
[cheers and applause]
- Welcome back to "The Challenge Reunion."
There is one thing I did hear about backstage,
something about a hookup with Faysal,
but it didn't have anything to do with you.
It had something to do with your fur coat.
What happened? - Well, I was trying
to be a nice guy and lend out my clothes,
and people started [bleep] on them, I guess.
- Whoa! - Whoa!
- Wait. Who were the people? Who were the people?
- I heard this story. I don't know who.
- That's the jacket? - No, that's not it.
That's the sweater.
- Oh, it wasn't that one? Thank God, 'cause I wore
the [bleep] out of that one. - No, you love that one.
- Does anyone want to fess up to this?
- Listen, Nelson and Olivia used it
as a [bleep] Sealy Posturepedic.
- Yo, you're a narc, bro. Nobody else was gonna--
- Thank you.
- Maybe Nelson did get some payback.
all: Oh. [laughter]
- Nelson, do you have any recollection of this event
and what went down?
- No comment. - Wow.
- Great night, but... [laughter]
- No comment, but comment.
- OK, OK.
Well, we dug through the footage,
and there was another funny moment fans didn't witness.
Take a look at this never-before-seen clip
of Chauncey. - Yes!
[lively music]
[cheering]
♪ ♪
- Chippendales, here you come.
I feel like I'm feeling a fan question
just come to mind right now.
Can they get an encore?
- Yes! - Cue the music.
[cheering]
♪ ♪
- That's how you get a girl pregnant.
- That's why y'all got a kid right now.
- Now you got a kid. - That was awesome.
[laughter]
Great way to go out.
Congrats on this amazing season,
first of all, to our champs.
- Yes. [cheering]
- Another epic season is right around the corner.
Until then, I'm Maria Menounos. Good night.
[cheers and applause]