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the reunion...
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- You said that I had to sleep
with someone to get saved.
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That's [bleep] up.
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- Don't puff your chest
out now.
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- One thing I don't do is lie,
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so I definitely did not make
that [bleep] up out of nowhere.
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- She heard you and Laurel
hooked up recently.
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What's the story there?
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[cheers and applause]
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What's up, world?
Welcome to part two
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of "The Challenge:
Ride or Die's Reunion."
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I'm Maria Menounos.
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Let's dive into this.
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Anyone feel bad
about rooting against Turbo?
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- Turbo sucks.
both: No.
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- No, no.
- He stinks.
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- Well, it's always important
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to hear both sides
of the story.
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♪ ♪
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Here to give us his version,
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please welcome Turbo.
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- Ah, [bleep].
- Come on.
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Bring his bitch-ass out here.
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- Just kidding.
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[laughter]
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Turbo was supposed
to join us tonight,
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but at the last minute,
he was unable to make it.
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He did, however, in true
Turbo fashion, send a video.
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- Why does he always...
- Pussy chickens,
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take a look.
- Send videos?
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- Yeah.
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- Welcome to Karma Café.
There is no menu.
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You will get served
what you deserve.
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Roses are red,
violets are blue.
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I got five fingers,
middle one for you, Devin.
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I was thinking
Tori was use you,
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but I realize you are useless.
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I will see you again,
level-two pussy chicken.
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And, Tori,
you have a good tell.
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You always find
the best pussy chickens
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and make them champion.
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And also,
you should have open
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two social media accounts,
one for each face.
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Nelson, you are much smarter
when you don't speak.
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Take this money
and buy a brain.
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If you have enough money,
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buy two bottle of champagne
for Laurel.
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Oh, Banana,
I would slap you,
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but that would be animal abuse.
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That's why when you saw me,
don't be afraid, brother.
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You're always safe.
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Everything is getting expensive
except some people.
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They are getting cheaper,
like you, Nany.
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And, Fessy--
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ah, you are not
that much important, brother.
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Never mind.
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Hey, cheaters.
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I don't like you,
but my middle finger loves you.
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This elimination prove
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that it's me
against all challenger.
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Otherwise, it's not fair.
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You guys prove
that you're all pussy chickens,
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but I give you guarantee
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I'm gonna take my revenge
one by one.
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After this cheating, if
you call yourself challenger,
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then I am the challenge.
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If you didn't like
this message,
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take your map,
get the car,
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and drive to hell.
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Have a nice day.
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[beep]
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Oh, and one last thing.
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Trash gets picked up tomorrow,
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so, Banana,
pussy chicken Jordan,
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and level-two
pussy chicken Devin,
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be ready.
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[ripping]
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[crunch]
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- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
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[engine revving]
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[laughter and applause]
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- Tori, your face
was on the ground too.
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What are your reactions?
- Yeah. No.
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Best film
I've ever seen in my life.
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'Cause, honestly, I actually--
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- It made me like him more.
- Incredible propaganda.
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I really like him, and I will
break every alliance I have
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because I want
to work with him.
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- Yeah!
- No, I really feel that way.
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I'm a fan.
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- That's just nasty.
Mm, I'm not a fan.
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So what's funny is,
is that I'm cheap,
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but yeah, I'm the one
who helped him get $750,000.
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- Oh.
- Damn.
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- Wow.
- All right.
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- Yeah, Nany.
- And now you're mad
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because we sent his ass home?
[bleep] all of you.
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- Also, we got a lot to get to,
so let's keep it moving.
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This game is all
about making deals,
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but sometimes the player
you want to ride with
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would rather die.
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Check your side mirror.
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Friends are not as close
as they appear.
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- You're my, like, sister.
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I never would have
done that, ever, to you.
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If you don't have the one
person that you love the most
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riding for you,
en do you have?
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- My God,
is this how you won Survivor?
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Because I don't know if these
are real tears or fake tears,
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but this is really good.
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- When I say my top four,
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Chauncey,
who is in my top four?
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- You guys are right there
with us.
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Always.
- Right there.
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- I'm in your top four,
but I also have a top four too.
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- Yeah, and I'm not in that.
- And you're not.
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- When it's time to vote,
then it's, like, ride or die.
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How much "ride or die" are we?
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I'm probably gonna leave her
in this bar.
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- I'm not sure
if I could trust Fessy
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in this game anymore
because he's made it very clear
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that this game is about him.
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- It's common sense
that if your ride or die
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is about to get voted in and
you could tie up the votes,
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that you don't burn vote here
and say Chauncey.
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You have to say Nelson.
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- So my vote is for Chauncey.
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♪ ♪
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- Wow.
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- She burns her vote,
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and then her ride or die
ends up going in.
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Amateur.
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- So, Moriah, you and Faysal
were a great duo,
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and everything was strong
until you guys broke up.
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He told Kaycee his strategy
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was to keep you in the dark.
- Yes.
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- Do you feel like
your ride or die abandoned you?
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- Well, I thought
it was very funny
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because I saw online
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that you pinned a comment
saying that I turned on you,
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and that is such a lie.
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I saw you outside of the house
as a kind,
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considerate, nice person,
thoughtful.
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So when we get in the house
and I see how you truly were,
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I was like, damn, so this
is what people say about you,
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and maybe it's actually true.
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And you said a lot
of shady stuff.
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And I would respect you more
if you said it to me
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because you're not someone
that I met in this house.
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A lot of these people,
I met you guys,
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there was lots of times
I wanted to tell you guys
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to shut the [bleep] up,
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but I didn't because
I'm attached to him.
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I literally had no voice,
but I wanted to be like,
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"Dude, shut up.
I don't even like you."
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- Who don't you like?
both: Aneesa.
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- Oh.
- Yeah, and you know that.
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Like, you didn't
treat me that nice.
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You were very dismissive.
I would talk to you.
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And then you were only nice
to me at certain times, OK?
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You also would say slick stuff.
You said that--
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you said that I had to sleep
with someone to get saved.
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That's [bleep] up.
That's not true.
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- Don't puff your chest
out now.
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- Listen--
- You had--no.
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I'ma tell you something.
- OK, say it.
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- I've been doing this
for a long [bleep] time.
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- Yes.
- And I am nice to everyone.
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I am not a bitch.
- Debatable.
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- No. You're younger than me.
- "Debatable."
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- We don't really
have a lot in common.
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I've made
one amazing friend in 21
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that I trust with my life.
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- I don't know
how I skated out of this.
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- You don't know [bleep]
about me.
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- I heard a lot
from a lot of people in here.
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So keep going.
- I don't give a [bleep].
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- Listen.
- I don't use Twitter.
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- You want to throw shade
on the podcast, which is fine.
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I respond. Expect it.
- All I said was that
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you didn't have a voice.
You didn't say [bleep]
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because it's your first time.
- And that's OK.
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That's OK.
- It's your first time.
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- But you said something,
and I responded.
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- So I'm responding
to what you're saying.
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- Yeah.
So what's the problem, dude?
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- Like I said,
you saw me in a hotel.
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You didn't say this
when we were out eating.
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- You talked about it.
- So don't do this [bleep] now
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because you don't want to.
- So listen, they asked me.
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- Um...
- We got way off track.
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I mean, how did that happen?
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- All right. Next question.
- I know.
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- So Faysal, Moriah tweeted.
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You said, "Not my partner,
not my problem."
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You have since pinned some
shady comments about Moriah.
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What's your response
to her tweet?
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- I did bring up that comment
that I brought her there
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when she was trying
to get Jordan and Johnny.
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- But I didn't say that
at that time.
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- I was like, that's
how I felt in the moment.
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And maybe it was [bleep] up
I said that,
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but that's how I was feeling.
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But the "not my partner,
not my problem"
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when she was sick,
I never said that.
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And if I did say that--
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- You said it--
- You said it to me verbatim.
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- Yeah, if I said that,
it was a joke
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about, like,
when she's freaking out about--
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like, before a challenge.
I was like,
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"Oh, that's on y'all.
Not my problem no more."
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So I'm joking.
- What was he referring to?
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- No, I didn't even know
she was sick.
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- No, he did.
I told you,
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which is
why you made that comment.
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I told him.
I was like,
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"Oh, can you go check
on Moriah? She's really sick.
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I'm here to make her some food
or medicine or something."
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And he was like,
"I don't care.
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She's not my partner anymore,
so that's not my problem."
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So as her friend,
I went back and I told her,
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"Just so you know,
act accordingly
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because he does not give
a [bleep] about you anymore."
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- That sounds accurate.
- Faysal?
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- Nope.
- One thing I don't do is lie,
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and everybody here knows that,
so I definitely
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did not make that [bleep] up
out of nowhere.
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- I'm sorry if you, you know,
felt like I disrespected you,
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but I tried to respect you
the whole game
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and cheer you on
the best way I could.
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I know our circumstances
weren't the best,
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but that was the reality of it.
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They asked
for a female partner.
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I thought of you.
I thought you'd be great.
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I thought we crushed it
the whole season.
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- You guys did.
- I feel like you guys
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probably have to have
a whole other conversation,
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so I'm gonna let you guys
handle that offstage...
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- Come on. Let's go.
- Because we've got a lot
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of betrayals to get to.
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Michele,
you felt really betrayed
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when Nany nominated you,
and you called her a sister.
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So fans were a little confused
because they haven't seen
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any kind of relationship
really form.
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You guys had done
a season together.
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So where did you guys
develop that closeness
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that you spoke of?
- All right.
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Well, number--
- No, no, no.
251
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I will speak on this
because I think it's important.
252
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She's dealt with a lot.
253
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And what I was going through
going into this season,
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she could relate to.
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We did have that connection
of grief, of loss,
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of just so much more
than the game.
257
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Watching the scene
of you crying
258
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and me just staring at you,
259
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I truly feel in my heart
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that I-I was so numb
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to anybody else's emotions.
262
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I...
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I couldn't empathize with you,
and that's not me.
264
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- It was my own spiral.
265
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Like, it was truly
my own spiral.
266
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And I could have just talked
to you in a rational way,
267
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and it could have been,
like, solved, no problem,
268
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but I was just
having a meltdown.
269
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I was caught off guard,
and it really was
270
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just a classic Micheletdown.
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And it's embarrassing.
272
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I hate watching it back.
273
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If we could burn the tapes,
that would be great.
274
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But no, me and Nany are good.
275
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- Yeah.
- I don't hold it against her.
276
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I hated
what she was going through
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and, like,
I empathized with that.
278
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And, like,
it was just so embarrassing.
279
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- All right.
Well, it's good to see
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you guys have moved past this.
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Coming up,
did Tori and Jordan's reunion
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have them
second-guessing their breakup?
283
00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:01,933
Find out next.
284
00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,069
- It such a big hurdle,
you know?
285
00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:07,238
I'm just thankful we're here
now, and I love you, you know?
286
00:10:07,307 --> 00:10:08,807
- You saying
I was boyfriend number two,
287
00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:10,542
like, that was funny as well.
288
00:10:10,611 --> 00:10:12,143
Draft pick number one,
that's what I'm thinking.
289
00:10:12,212 --> 00:10:13,311
- Yes.
290
00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,380
- Who the hell told you guys
291
00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:18,216
that we had a "group chat"
where we were talking [bleep]
292
00:10:18,285 --> 00:10:19,351
about Amber?
'Cause I never happened.
293
00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:21,086
- I'm like,
that's fake energy to me.
294
00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:28,827
[cheers and applause]
295
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- We're back
with more "Challenge Reunion."
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The daggers made their way
to London.
297
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And tonight, the challengers
can skip any fan question
298
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as long as they pull
the safe dagger.
299
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So Matt asks,
"Horacio, Faysal said
300
00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:45,110
"that if women in the house
were talking to you,
301
00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:48,480
"it's because he didn't
have enough time for them.
302
00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:50,215
What's your response to that?"
303
00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:52,384
- Wow.
304
00:10:52,452 --> 00:10:54,986
[laughter]
305
00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:58,323
- I mean, that's hilarious.
[laughter]
306
00:10:58,392 --> 00:10:59,591
- It was a comment
because, like,
307
00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:01,693
with the whole Laurel
and Michele thing,
308
00:11:01,762 --> 00:11:03,528
like, Michele had pinned me up
against the wall
309
00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:05,797
and was like, "What are you
doing? I got other options."
310
00:11:05,866 --> 00:11:08,066
And then me and Laurel, we're
getting to know each other.
311
00:11:08,135 --> 00:11:12,337
So I was like, I can't be all
these places at once, so...
312
00:11:12,406 --> 00:11:14,706
- Like, that's a weird way
to think about it.
313
00:11:14,775 --> 00:11:16,141
Like he's boyfriend number two?
314
00:11:16,209 --> 00:11:18,376
Like, there were interests--
- Yeah, that thing.
315
00:11:18,445 --> 00:11:20,378
Like, you saying
I was boyfriend number two,
316
00:11:20,447 --> 00:11:22,213
like, that was funny as well.
317
00:11:22,282 --> 00:11:24,082
Draft pick number one,
that's what I'm thinking.
318
00:11:24,151 --> 00:11:26,051
- Yes.
- I mean, if Horacio
319
00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:28,987
would have given me a shot,
I would've taken it.
320
00:11:29,056 --> 00:11:31,556
- I second that.
- All right.
321
00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:34,159
Tori entered this season
with her eyes on the prize,
322
00:11:34,227 --> 00:11:37,462
but little did she know,
her path to $1 million
323
00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:39,898
would include
difficult conversations
324
00:11:39,966 --> 00:11:41,966
and in-your-face PDA.
325
00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:43,401
Take a look.
326
00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,171
- Let's bring in a good friend
to this game.
327
00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:47,439
- Who?
328
00:11:47,507 --> 00:11:50,308
- Jordan.
[cheering]
329
00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:52,210
- Jordan is here.
330
00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:57,348
I haven't seen Jordan in a year
and a half, since we broke up.
331
00:11:57,417 --> 00:12:00,185
- The toughest part about
walking back into this house
332
00:12:00,253 --> 00:12:01,953
is seeing Tori,
333
00:12:02,022 --> 00:12:05,390
because all of these feelings,
they come back.
334
00:12:05,459 --> 00:12:06,858
- I'm sorry I put you through
335
00:12:06,927 --> 00:12:08,727
what I put you through
when we were together.
336
00:12:08,795 --> 00:12:10,995
I love you as a person.
337
00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:12,731
I will always have your back.
338
00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:14,933
- And you know
I'll always have yours.
339
00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:18,169
We cuddle,
and we wrestle.
340
00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:23,108
It's just very easy to fall
back into this comfort zone.
341
00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:25,443
[dramatic music]
342
00:12:25,512 --> 00:12:29,881
- Watching somebody move on
is life,
343
00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:31,783
but when you're
in a competition,
344
00:12:31,852 --> 00:12:34,352
it's way heavier than it
would be in the outside world
345
00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:36,054
because I have to deal
346
00:12:36,123 --> 00:12:39,157
with it happening
right in front of my face.
347
00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:43,762
- Is it hard to see your
ex-significant other snuggling,
348
00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:46,464
hooking up with people
in front of your face?
349
00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:47,999
- I've already apologized
for all that [bleep].
350
00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:50,935
And since then,
you've laid in my bed with me.
351
00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,171
I've been naked.
We've said we love each other.
352
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,439
You said you wanted
to see me out of this.
353
00:12:54,508 --> 00:12:56,374
- I still love you.
- OK.
354
00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:58,309
That's not you act
when you love somebody.
355
00:12:58,378 --> 00:13:00,478
At this point in time,
my relationship with Jordan
356
00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:02,614
is only about the game.
357
00:13:02,682 --> 00:13:04,516
I have absolutely no interest
358
00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:06,618
in even, like, trying
to salvage a friendship
359
00:13:06,686 --> 00:13:10,822
out of this because there's
no way to communicate with him.
360
00:13:10,891 --> 00:13:12,357
- Aw.
- [whistles]
361
00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:15,760
- So, Jordan,
you hadn't spoken with Tori
362
00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:18,463
since you guys had
broken off your engagement.
363
00:13:18,532 --> 00:13:20,532
What was it like
seeing her for the first time?
364
00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,835
- Scariest moment
of my "Challenge" career.
365
00:13:23,904 --> 00:13:28,773
Like, I mean,
walking into the game then,
366
00:13:28,842 --> 00:13:32,577
like, I literally felt like
I was going into elimination,
367
00:13:32,646 --> 00:13:35,713
you know, just 'cause I knew,
like, we're going to talk,
368
00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,816
we're going to see each other,
live with each other,
369
00:13:37,884 --> 00:13:40,418
and, like, the Band-Aid
is being ripped off.
370
00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:42,821
- It was a lot to handle.
It really was.
371
00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:44,656
- I think you did a great job.
- Thank you.
372
00:13:44,724 --> 00:13:48,193
- Aneesa, you and Tori
obviously are best friends.
373
00:13:48,261 --> 00:13:49,727
And you were
Jordan's ride or die.
374
00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:52,897
Were you worried at all
about that whole dynamic?
375
00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:54,432
- Of course.
- Yeah.
376
00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:55,633
- I was frightened.
377
00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:57,936
It was hard
because I knew that I'd,
378
00:13:58,038 --> 00:14:00,672
as a friend,
be there for her 1,000%,
379
00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,707
as a ride or die,
be there for him,
380
00:14:02,776 --> 00:14:04,609
but it was kind of like--
381
00:14:04,678 --> 00:14:07,312
that's a really hard space
to navigate.
382
00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:09,047
So I tried to, then,
383
00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:13,618
still remain pretty,
like, even and respectful
384
00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:16,054
of how they both felt.
385
00:14:16,122 --> 00:14:17,889
I didn't really want
to be involved.
386
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:20,558
- So Tori,
that moment in the bar,
387
00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:22,694
where you were apologizing
to Jordan
388
00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,395
about how all that played out,
389
00:14:24,464 --> 00:14:26,331
was that a conversation
you feel like you had
390
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,066
been wanting to have
for a long time?
391
00:14:28,134 --> 00:14:30,969
- Yeah. Oh, my God.
392
00:14:31,071 --> 00:14:33,004
I mean, like, I'm just--
- It's OK.
393
00:14:33,073 --> 00:14:35,073
- I'm really thankful.
I'm really thankful.
394
00:14:35,141 --> 00:14:37,609
And, like--
[sobbing]
395
00:14:37,677 --> 00:14:39,277
- Oh, you're making me cry now.
396
00:14:39,346 --> 00:14:42,213
- That was such a big hurdle,
you know?
397
00:14:42,282 --> 00:14:44,949
I'm just thankful
we're here now.
398
00:14:45,018 --> 00:14:47,318
No matter what the path was
to get us here,
399
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,654
like, that was
really heavy in my life.
400
00:14:49,723 --> 00:14:52,824
- You're thankful that you guys
had this kind of healing time.
401
00:14:52,893 --> 00:14:55,260
- Yeah, I really am.
Like, I really needed it.
402
00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:56,794
I really care about him
as a person.
403
00:14:56,863 --> 00:15:00,265
Like, from both sides, I hurt
him at some point really bad.
404
00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:03,568
It was just, like, tit for tat,
tit for tat for a while.
405
00:15:03,637 --> 00:15:06,004
And, like,
it came to a head like this,
406
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,973
and that was, like, really--
it was a hard pill to swallow,
407
00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:10,375
so I'm thankful
that we're friends.
408
00:15:10,443 --> 00:15:11,876
I really, really am.
409
00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:14,012
You know, I'm sorry
I put you through everything
410
00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:15,179
I put you through.
- No, I'm sorry.
411
00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:16,447
Tori, I'm really sorry.
- Thank you.
412
00:15:16,516 --> 00:15:17,715
I love you, you know?
- You know I love you.
413
00:15:17,784 --> 00:15:19,217
- I know, yeah.
- I love you so much.
414
00:15:19,286 --> 00:15:21,319
- Oh, man.
Oh, gosh, you got me.
415
00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:25,523
Jordan, you were adamant
that your past with Tori
416
00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:29,227
wouldn't stop you from
exploring things with Nurys.
417
00:15:29,296 --> 00:15:32,630
So why lay in bed with Tori?
418
00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:37,435
- Because it's safe, right?
419
00:15:37,504 --> 00:15:39,737
And at the time,
laying in bed with Tori,
420
00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:41,506
I don't know the future, right?
421
00:15:41,574 --> 00:15:43,308
And, like, Nurys and I hadn't--
422
00:15:43,376 --> 00:15:46,177
like, we weren't, like,
planning anything.
423
00:15:46,246 --> 00:15:48,980
Like, we flirted, but,
like, I flirt with everybody,
424
00:15:49,049 --> 00:15:50,214
you know what I mean?
- Got it.
425
00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:53,618
And, Nurys, were you aware
of their history?
426
00:15:53,687 --> 00:15:55,320
- Yeah, I knew.
427
00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:57,455
I wouldn't necessarily say
I regret it,
428
00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:59,324
but if I could do it
all over again,
429
00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:01,526
I definitely wouldn't have
put myself in that place
430
00:16:01,594 --> 00:16:04,829
because I felt so bad
hurting Tori.
431
00:16:04,898 --> 00:16:07,465
- Aw, it worked out.
It's all good.
432
00:16:07,534 --> 00:16:09,934
- So you guys
are both in LA now.
433
00:16:10,003 --> 00:16:11,869
- We decided
to just be friends.
434
00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:13,438
And that's
what it's been since,
435
00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:14,906
has been just a friendship.
436
00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:16,374
We should have done that
on the show.
437
00:16:16,443 --> 00:16:17,809
- Got it.
438
00:16:17,877 --> 00:16:20,044
And, Tori, where is your
relationship with Jordan now?
439
00:16:20,113 --> 00:16:22,413
- Now we get
to look at each other
440
00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:24,215
with the most respect
as possible
441
00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,084
after everything
we put each other through,
442
00:16:26,186 --> 00:16:27,518
after all the ups and downs,
443
00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:29,320
and truly have
each other's backs.
444
00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:32,290
Like, I would still pick Devin
as my ride or die over you,
445
00:16:32,359 --> 00:16:33,524
but I love you.
446
00:16:33,593 --> 00:16:35,326
- Oh.
[laughter]
447
00:16:35,395 --> 00:16:38,029
- Wow. Wow.
- Wow.
448
00:16:38,098 --> 00:16:39,697
- Well, I'm really happy
449
00:16:39,766 --> 00:16:41,866
that you guys got the closure
that you guys needed
450
00:16:41,935 --> 00:16:44,669
and that you guys
are happy and friends.
451
00:16:44,738 --> 00:16:48,473
Coming up, some ride or dies
were dying to ride each other.
452
00:16:48,541 --> 00:16:50,408
[exclaiming]
453
00:16:50,477 --> 00:16:52,677
We're getting
all the updates next.
454
00:16:52,746 --> 00:16:56,014
[cheering]
455
00:16:56,082 --> 00:16:57,582
- I love you.
- I love you too.
456
00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:00,585
- I'm really thankful for you.
- I'm always thankful for you.
457
00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:01,819
- I didn't expect us
to be married,
458
00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:03,755
but I expected us
to be friends.
459
00:17:03,823 --> 00:17:06,024
- I expected us to be friends.
You're the one that blocked me.
460
00:17:06,092 --> 00:17:07,992
- Ooh.
461
00:17:08,061 --> 00:17:11,562
- When was the last time
you guys got together?
462
00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:12,997
- Can I pull the dagger?
- No.
463
00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:14,599
- Oh.
- Sorry.
464
00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:15,666
- Oh, my God.
465
00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:23,574
[cheers and applause]
466
00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:26,310
- We're back
with more "Challenge Reunion."
467
00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,514
Forget the house.
Hookups started at the airport.
468
00:17:29,582 --> 00:17:31,449
Once bunks are picked,
469
00:17:31,518 --> 00:17:34,585
the final hurdle is
making it happen in a twin bed.
470
00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:35,987
[laughs]
Take a look.
471
00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:38,022
[laughter]
472
00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:41,526
- All right, people,
we all know the game begins
473
00:17:41,594 --> 00:17:43,094
when you get to the airport.
474
00:17:43,163 --> 00:17:45,830
So Johnny and Nurys
had a couple of drinks,
475
00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:47,131
started making out.
476
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,734
And the whole cast saw that.
477
00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,470
- I'm sorry. Can you help me
take this clip off?
478
00:17:52,539 --> 00:17:56,074
- Horacio and I, our beds are
like this next to each other,
479
00:17:56,142 --> 00:17:58,242
so I wake up and, like,
he's just, like, there,
480
00:17:58,311 --> 00:17:59,944
shirtless,
right next to me.
481
00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:01,212
And I'm like...
[gasps]
482
00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:02,914
Oh, hello.
Like, hi.
483
00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:08,453
- He basically told me that,
like, before he came here,
484
00:18:08,521 --> 00:18:12,623
he was, like,
talking to some girl.
485
00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:15,760
And now, I feel,
like, very weird.
486
00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:18,496
- Bananas is not
usually my type,
487
00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:20,898
but since his personality
is so amazing,
488
00:18:20,967 --> 00:18:23,000
I do think
that Bananas is cute.
489
00:18:23,069 --> 00:18:24,936
But my mom told me
to be careful for him.
490
00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:26,771
She told me
that he's a sneaky snake.
491
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,972
- Olivia.
492
00:18:28,041 --> 00:18:31,843
Those pretty blue eyes
and that smile.
493
00:18:31,911 --> 00:18:33,211
Am I in love?
494
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,247
- Nelson and Olivia are
a match made in heaven.
495
00:18:36,316 --> 00:18:38,616
They're both little horndogs.
496
00:18:38,685 --> 00:18:40,451
They're cute,
497
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,753
until they're keeping me up
at 3:00 a.m.
498
00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:45,990
- Make no mistake.
He is still Messy Fessy.
499
00:18:46,059 --> 00:18:48,493
You have Michele, who,
according to the rumor mill,
500
00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:50,094
has been in and out
of his bed,
501
00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:52,296
Laurel, who's been
hopping into his bed.
502
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:54,465
And you've also got him
pursuing Analyse
503
00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,868
and Colleen simultaneously.
504
00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,269
- I think the truth is,
505
00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,438
when it comes
to spending time with women,
506
00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,740
I genuinely am trying
to get to know them.
507
00:19:02,809 --> 00:19:04,375
I am listening.
508
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:06,544
And I think that's refreshing
for a lot of these women.
509
00:19:06,613 --> 00:19:08,846
- So what does "Faysal"
translate to again?
510
00:19:08,915 --> 00:19:11,182
- "Faysal" translates
to the decision maker.
511
00:19:11,251 --> 00:19:14,619
And I guess this season, I'm
gonna have to make a decision.
512
00:19:14,687 --> 00:19:18,456
- Faysal, has the
decision-making around women
513
00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:20,825
gotten any better in your mind?
514
00:19:20,894 --> 00:19:24,128
- So...
[laughter]
515
00:19:24,197 --> 00:19:25,496
When it comes to getting
to know women,
516
00:19:25,565 --> 00:19:27,398
I don't put, like,
expectations on them.
517
00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:29,734
If something happens
beyond a friendship, cool,
518
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:33,371
but if not, like, I'm not
gonna make no advances on them.
519
00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:34,672
And that's
what I was trying to get at.
520
00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:36,174
I think a lot of guys
are too fast
521
00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:37,708
at, like, jumping the gun.
522
00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:39,710
And I think that's why,
you know,
523
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:41,012
I get to know
a lot of these women
524
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,781
'cause I don't pressure them
into anything.
525
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:45,683
- But feelings do get hurt
along the way,
526
00:19:45,752 --> 00:19:47,518
like, where everybody
is kind of in limbo,
527
00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,687
like, what's going on here?
528
00:19:49,756 --> 00:19:51,956
I think it's just
a little bit confusing.
529
00:19:52,025 --> 00:19:53,658
- The girls [bleep] with Fessy,
530
00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:55,326
you're [bleep] with a guy
531
00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:58,329
whose name is Messy Fessy,
right?
532
00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:01,032
- So, Michele...Michele...
[laughter]
533
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,267
Michele, do you still feel
like you're in limbo with him?
534
00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:05,102
- No, no.
Absolutely [bleep] not.
535
00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:07,271
No, because I know
what I'm looking for.
536
00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,006
I mean,
he's absolutely amazing.
537
00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,776
He can't fill that thing
that I need.
538
00:20:11,844 --> 00:20:14,111
And I know that about him.
And I accept that about him.
539
00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:17,014
It was just confusing
when I was getting to know him
540
00:20:17,083 --> 00:20:18,249
and I was, like,
541
00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:20,218
trying to figure
all of that out at the time.
542
00:20:20,286 --> 00:20:22,954
- I mean, I know I have
a hard time narrowing down,
543
00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:25,056
you know,
what I want and all this,
544
00:20:25,158 --> 00:20:27,291
but, I mean, I don't know.
545
00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,126
- Do you, king.
546
00:20:29,195 --> 00:20:30,528
- If you're honest,
then there's nothing
547
00:20:30,597 --> 00:20:31,829
anybody can hold against you...
- Exactly.
548
00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:33,197
- If you're
telling the truth to people.
549
00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,032
But let's
keep this train going.
550
00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:38,069
Horacio, you said
you had a girl at home.
551
00:20:38,137 --> 00:20:41,272
What happened with her?
- It was short-lived.
552
00:20:41,341 --> 00:20:44,275
It only lasted, like, three
weeks because of the distance.
553
00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:48,279
- OK. Laurel, did you
feel like he led you on?
554
00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:50,548
- I knew he was dating a girl.
He had told me that.
555
00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:52,483
I was dating somebody.
I had told him that.
556
00:20:52,552 --> 00:20:55,419
But the one critical piece
of information
557
00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:57,622
that he did not tell me was,
558
00:20:57,690 --> 00:20:59,857
"I'm gonna ask that girl
to be my girlfriend."
559
00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:02,760
And I think that,
unfortunately,
560
00:21:02,829 --> 00:21:06,030
I wish I would have known
that one piece of information
561
00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:08,366
because then I wouldn't
have let my feelings go.
562
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:10,401
And I'm not ashamed
of having feelings for him.
563
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:11,969
He's a wonderful person.
564
00:21:12,038 --> 00:21:13,804
And I--
565
00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:16,607
- He's OK.
- Aw.
566
00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,643
- Aw.
- Don't cry.
567
00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:20,211
- You're good.
And you're beautiful.
568
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,646
- [voice breaks]
That's it.
569
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:25,249
- Well, it's so tough
to see Laurel in that state.
570
00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:29,820
And I've apologized
so many times to her.
571
00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:31,355
You know me.
I'm just quiet.
572
00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:32,657
I'm that quiet guy.
573
00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:34,525
And then I find out
you talk Spanish.
574
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:35,860
To me, that's like, oh wow.
575
00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:37,595
Like,
I could be myself in a sense.
576
00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:39,697
I don't know.
It kind of liberated me.
577
00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:41,365
So I start connecting with you,
578
00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:44,735
and everything
just grew so nicely.
579
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,437
I don't want to say
I completely lead you on,
580
00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:49,140
but then at the same time,
I do feel like I did.
581
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:51,008
- Well, I know
fans have seen you guys
582
00:21:51,077 --> 00:21:53,577
commenting
on each other's socials.
583
00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:57,014
So have you guys seen
each other since the show?
584
00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,949
- Uh, yeah.
585
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,685
[laughter]
586
00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:02,553
- So, Horacio,
what's happening?
587
00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:04,355
- I am attracted to Laurel,
588
00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:07,925
and I can't deny the fact
that there could be something.
589
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:11,162
And I just don't know if--
590
00:22:11,264 --> 00:22:13,130
if I'm 100% there.
I don't know.
591
00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:15,032
- I don't know
if I'm 100% there yet either,
592
00:22:15,101 --> 00:22:16,767
so we're kind of
in the same spot.
593
00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:18,336
It's--
594
00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:20,738
you know, who knows?
595
00:22:20,807 --> 00:22:23,541
- Only time will tell.
- OK, let's switch gears.
596
00:22:23,609 --> 00:22:24,775
Nurys, you said earlier that
597
00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:26,844
you and Johnny hooked up
after the show.
598
00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:28,212
When was the last time
599
00:22:28,281 --> 00:22:29,780
you guys got together?
- Ooh, bitch.
600
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,549
- Oh, wait.
Can I pull the dagger?
601
00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:33,551
- No. Sorry.
- Oh.
602
00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:34,885
- Oh, my God.
[laughter]
603
00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:36,620
Nurys, let it out.
604
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:37,688
- Last night.
605
00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:40,191
[exclaiming]
606
00:22:40,259 --> 00:22:44,228
- No matter the beef, no matter
how many times she blocks me--
607
00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:46,097
- He is blocked right now
on everything.
608
00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:47,365
He is. He is.
- Right.
609
00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:49,834
Every time we do
see each other in person,
610
00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:51,535
we always vibe with each other,
611
00:22:51,604 --> 00:22:53,037
and we always get along
with each other.
612
00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:54,605
And then, things just kind of
613
00:22:54,674 --> 00:22:55,906
get to where they go.
- So it's love-hate?
614
00:22:55,975 --> 00:22:57,641
Let's move on.
615
00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,578
Let's move on.
[laughter]
616
00:23:00,646 --> 00:23:04,849
So, Nelson, I know that when
we were watching those clips,
617
00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:07,485
you were really,
really emotional over there.
618
00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:09,353
You guys did seem
pretty inseparable.
619
00:23:09,422 --> 00:23:10,855
What happened?
620
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,824
- I think that's a question
for her, not me.
621
00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:15,493
- I mean...
622
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:19,063
There's a lot to unpack here.
623
00:23:19,132 --> 00:23:21,332
So when he got eliminated,
there was,
624
00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:23,901
I think, like, three weeks
or something I was by myself.
625
00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:26,036
And I almost needed that time
to, like, heal
626
00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,671
from just even, like,
past relationships.
627
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:31,175
And with that
and the golf ball situation,
628
00:23:31,244 --> 00:23:33,644
um, I was dealing with a lot.
629
00:23:33,713 --> 00:23:35,012
And so, when I left the show,
630
00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:36,747
I kind of just needed time
for myself.
631
00:23:36,816 --> 00:23:38,182
And I definitely
pushed him away.
632
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:39,583
- You know,
people have told me,
633
00:23:39,652 --> 00:23:41,552
don't put your feelings
into everything
634
00:23:41,621 --> 00:23:43,721
'cause you never know
what to expect afterwards
635
00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:44,955
in the real world,
636
00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,892
because this game
that we're in, it's a dream.
637
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,561
And I guess
I put all my feelings in.
638
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:52,897
And, um...
[sighs]
639
00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:55,566
- Was there some reason
that you guys discussed
640
00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:56,967
where this isn't gonna work?
641
00:23:59,005 --> 00:24:00,905
- [scoffs] I don't know.
642
00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:02,673
She forgot about me.
643
00:24:02,742 --> 00:24:06,410
And her closest friends
told her, like,
644
00:24:06,479 --> 00:24:09,013
"Don't date this guy
because of his past."
645
00:24:09,081 --> 00:24:11,215
I'm not the same guy
I was back then.
646
00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:12,817
I was a--
647
00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:15,019
I wasn't a man.
I was a boy.
648
00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:17,121
And I didn't treat women
with respect.
649
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:19,723
But when I saw her
and I had this opportunity
650
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:23,060
and she made me smile and laugh
and she accepted who I was,
651
00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:25,162
I was like,
yo, this is the girl.
652
00:24:25,231 --> 00:24:29,033
And things just came to...
- Aw, man.
653
00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:30,468
I don't know
where we stand right now.
654
00:24:30,536 --> 00:24:31,936
- Olivia, what are your
thoughts on what he's saying?
655
00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:35,940
- I think that I thought
this was gonna be right for me,
656
00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:37,675
and what it came down to is,
like,
657
00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:40,177
I need to be full and whole
in my own first.
658
00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:41,445
Aneesa and me got really close,
659
00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:42,446
and me and Tori
got really close.
660
00:24:42,515 --> 00:24:44,248
And, like, they helped me also
661
00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:47,985
just, like, understand,
like, it's OK to be alone
662
00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:49,687
and it's OK to be,
like, independent.
663
00:24:49,755 --> 00:24:51,188
And I was never comfortable
with that
664
00:24:51,257 --> 00:24:54,258
because I always felt like I
needed someone to complete me.
665
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:55,626
And so, it's not even him.
666
00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:57,895
It's, like, he was
in the backlash of everything.
667
00:24:57,964 --> 00:24:59,763
And I feel bad.
Like, I do.
668
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,232
- I didn't expect us
to be married,
669
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,133
but I expected us
to be friends.
670
00:25:03,202 --> 00:25:05,269
- I expected us to be friends.
You're the one that blocked me.
671
00:25:05,338 --> 00:25:06,704
- Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
672
00:25:06,772 --> 00:25:09,573
I feel like you took everyone's
perspective about me,
673
00:25:09,642 --> 00:25:11,342
my reputation in the past,
674
00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:14,678
and it dictated and made me the
man I am today, which I'm not.
675
00:25:14,747 --> 00:25:16,747
- No, I've learned
from patterns in my past.
676
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:18,115
And I've added them up,
677
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,518
and it equals,
probably wouldn't work.
678
00:25:20,586 --> 00:25:22,219
- It's cool, though.
Like, you weren't in the place
679
00:25:22,288 --> 00:25:24,154
where I was,
and I had to respect that.
680
00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:25,856
I can't be mad at you
that you didn't want
681
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,057
to be in a relationship
with me.
682
00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:28,058
I can't.
683
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,226
It hurts seeing you
684
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,529
because, like,
you made me so happy.
685
00:25:31,597 --> 00:25:33,097
- Aw.
686
00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:36,333
- I feel for him,
687
00:25:36,402 --> 00:25:38,402
but I have
to be honest with myself.
688
00:25:38,504 --> 00:25:40,905
And I am sorry.
689
00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:42,973
- It's whatever.
- Like, I really am.
690
00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:46,310
- I can tell both of you are
having, you know, a hard time,
691
00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:49,280
but we have to move on,
unfortunately.
692
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:51,081
- Oh, God. I can't.
- What's going on?
693
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:53,717
- Get this. Get this.
- Go over there.
694
00:25:53,786 --> 00:25:56,020
- We just directed
a little bit.
695
00:25:56,088 --> 00:25:57,588
- No, Nelson, that's not what--
696
00:25:57,657 --> 00:25:59,723
- Then what it was?
- It was more than that.
697
00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:00,991
I was not ready
for a relationship.
698
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,260
- But it didn't happen
until you went to Alaska.
699
00:26:03,329 --> 00:26:05,095
You asked me to go to Alaska.
- Yeah, because I got clarity.
700
00:26:05,164 --> 00:26:08,032
- Clarity of what?
- Of what I wanted in my life.
701
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,301
- You invited me to Alaska.
- I know.
702
00:26:10,369 --> 00:26:11,535
- Did you not?
- Yes, I did.
703
00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:13,203
- And then it changed.
Then you went to Hawaii.
704
00:26:13,272 --> 00:26:14,672
- Yes. Yes.
- Then you went to LA.
705
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:16,340
Then you became a city girl.
Did you not?
706
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:17,675
- OK. I'm done with this.
- Is that not true?
707
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:19,009
Is that not true?
- No.
708
00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:22,346
- OK, then. Whatever.
- Oh, my God.
709
00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:24,415
- I was skeptical
about their friendship too
710
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:25,683
because I didn't know
if we should actually
711
00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,518
have his back or not.
712
00:26:27,587 --> 00:26:28,986
- Jordan, Tori said
713
00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:31,689
she heard you and Laurel
hooked up recently.
714
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:33,390
What's the story there?
715
00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:35,359
[exclaiming]
716
00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:43,667
[cheers and applause]
717
00:26:43,736 --> 00:26:45,069
- We are back
718
00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:47,204
with "The Challenge:
Ride or Die's Reunion."
719
00:26:47,273 --> 00:26:49,373
Let's talk to friends
with a checkered past.
720
00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:51,241
Faysal's betrayal
on "Double Agents"
721
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,844
left Nelson wondering
if their friendship was a lie.
722
00:26:53,913 --> 00:26:57,815
Lucky for Faysal, Nelson
is the ultimate ride or die.
723
00:26:57,883 --> 00:26:59,683
Take a look.
- Yes, you are.
724
00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:01,185
- On my first season
of "The Challenge,"
725
00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:02,786
me and Nelson were cool.
726
00:27:02,855 --> 00:27:05,990
And then on my second season,
I voted myself into elimination
727
00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:08,092
against him,
and I sent him home.
728
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,460
- If I wanted payback,
729
00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:11,962
I definitely wouldn't
be rooming with you.
730
00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:13,297
And we wouldn't be friends.
731
00:27:13,366 --> 00:27:15,666
That's not
the kind of guy I am.
732
00:27:15,735 --> 00:27:17,901
But you definitely
got some making up to do.
733
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,136
[laughter]
734
00:27:19,205 --> 00:27:21,372
- Faysal and Moriah,
pick your dagger.
735
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,840
- Oh please, Lord.
736
00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:26,477
[dramatic music]
737
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,445
- [bleep]!
738
00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:32,850
- Oh, [bleep].
- Oh, my.
739
00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:34,952
- God, bro.
740
00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:38,956
- Now, which pair do you want
to keep safe with you?
741
00:27:39,025 --> 00:27:40,958
- [exhales sharply]
742
00:27:41,027 --> 00:27:42,826
Fessy and Moriah.
743
00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:44,762
You about to be mad at me.
744
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:46,163
Me and Fessy
been rocking together,
745
00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:48,699
so we're holding it down.
746
00:27:48,768 --> 00:27:50,167
- So you mean to tell me
747
00:27:50,236 --> 00:27:52,836
you've kind of gotten friends
with the enemy?
748
00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:54,371
- [laughs]
749
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,874
- The worst-case scenario is
750
00:27:56,942 --> 00:27:59,209
either I get voted in
or Nelson get voted in
751
00:27:59,278 --> 00:28:00,544
and we go against each other.
752
00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:01,879
We're real-life friends,
753
00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:03,847
and I would hate to be
the one to send him home.
754
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:07,151
[grunting]
755
00:28:07,219 --> 00:28:09,019
- Wow.
- Yes!
756
00:28:09,088 --> 00:28:10,254
- Yeah, Fess!
757
00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:12,356
♪ ♪
758
00:28:12,425 --> 00:28:13,590
[air horn blares]
759
00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:15,025
- It's all good, brother.
760
00:28:15,094 --> 00:28:17,261
[both panting]
761
00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:20,798
I'm proud of you.
- I'm proud of you too, man.
762
00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:22,132
- Aw.
- That's very nice.
763
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:24,068
- You're just a great guy.
- You're the man, dog.
764
00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:26,170
- Great attitude.
- He's the best.
765
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,372
- So, Faysal,
how important was it for you
766
00:28:28,441 --> 00:28:32,109
to kind of improve on things
in your friendship?
767
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:34,378
- A lot of [bleep]
happens in this game.
768
00:28:34,447 --> 00:28:37,014
You're forced to make
decisions, selfish decisions.
769
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,682
But all that stuff ends,
770
00:28:38,751 --> 00:28:40,651
and then you live real life
outside of this.
771
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720
And, you know, Nelson is one
of the few people on the cast
772
00:28:42,788 --> 00:28:44,555
that I actually hang out with
in real life.
773
00:28:44,623 --> 00:28:48,025
I think, you know,
Nelson having a good heart
774
00:28:48,094 --> 00:28:51,929
and us seeing that
we are similar in real life
775
00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:54,331
and we do benefit
from each other's friendships
776
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,033
and cherish it,
777
00:28:56,102 --> 00:28:58,602
you know, it just makes sense
working together in the game,
778
00:28:58,704 --> 00:29:01,105
because even though
there is a past,
779
00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:02,773
he could trust me
and I could trust him
780
00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:05,275
more than we could trust
most people in here.
781
00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:08,145
- So, Nelson, I know there's
a lot going on over there.
782
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:09,279
I can feel it.
- Yeah.
783
00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:12,649
- So how many strikes
does somebody get
784
00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:15,552
before you--
[clicks tongue]
785
00:29:15,621 --> 00:29:17,187
- I don't know, man.
786
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:19,189
I don't count strikes.
- Mm.
787
00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:23,927
- I can either act on revenge
or I can apply forgiveness.
788
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,063
And that's the man
I'm trying to be.
789
00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:29,066
I've been in his shoes before.
I've made mistakes.
790
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,769
You know,
I can't predict what he does.
791
00:29:31,837 --> 00:29:32,970
And we'll see.
792
00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:35,072
- I was skeptical
about their friendship too
793
00:29:35,141 --> 00:29:36,306
because I didn't know
if we should actually
794
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:37,441
have his back or not.
795
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:39,042
And I feel like
he did prove that
796
00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:41,245
throughout the entire season.
797
00:29:41,313 --> 00:29:42,579
He even had my back.
798
00:29:42,648 --> 00:29:44,114
And I feel like
that kind of shows,
799
00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:46,250
like, improvement
in who Fessy is
800
00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:48,752
because he had no loyalty to me
at that point.
801
00:29:48,821 --> 00:29:51,822
- Does anyone here feel like
802
00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:53,757
he should have
taken the shot at Faysal?
803
00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:55,259
- Yeah, I told him to.
804
00:29:55,327 --> 00:29:58,462
I said,
"Think about what happened.
805
00:29:58,531 --> 00:30:00,430
Take that into consideration."
806
00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:03,300
And, you know, he did,
and he made his own decision.
807
00:30:03,369 --> 00:30:04,802
And I respect that,
but, you know,
808
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:06,236
it's not the way I would play.
809
00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:08,305
- And Cory,
he was upset with me.
810
00:30:08,374 --> 00:30:10,607
He said, "Bro,
why didn't you take revenge?"
811
00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:12,943
And I sat Cory down.
I was, like, "Bro."
812
00:30:13,012 --> 00:30:15,179
I was like,
"I've done that in the past,
813
00:30:15,247 --> 00:30:17,981
"but revenge just
keeps going on in a circle.
814
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:19,983
How do we prevail
and be a better person?"
815
00:30:20,052 --> 00:30:22,186
And that's what I wanted to be,
you know?
816
00:30:22,254 --> 00:30:23,453
That's what I wanted to show.
- Facts.
817
00:30:23,522 --> 00:30:24,788
- So you're happy
you made that decision?
818
00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:26,323
- Yeah.
- Good job, Nelly T.
819
00:30:26,392 --> 00:30:29,593
- For Nelly
to be able to learn
820
00:30:29,662 --> 00:30:31,295
and be vulnerable the way he is
821
00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:32,830
and play
with his heart on his sleeve...
822
00:30:32,898 --> 00:30:34,832
And he knows it's not
the smartest way to play,
823
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:36,633
but he plays
with honor and integrity.
824
00:30:36,702 --> 00:30:38,735
You play with your heart, and
you give everything you got,
825
00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:40,404
and that is
how you become a legend.
826
00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:42,706
And you're a legend.
- Not a champion, though.
827
00:30:42,775 --> 00:30:44,575
- You don't have
to have a title to be a champ.
828
00:30:44,643 --> 00:30:46,577
- You don't.
- You made it.
829
00:30:46,645 --> 00:30:48,579
- No one is like you, Nelly.
There's no one like you.
830
00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:50,747
- And never
[bleep] forget that!
831
00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,382
- Everything takes time.
832
00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:54,852
- He's a great friend,
and it shows.
833
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,821
And I think we need
more people like that.
834
00:30:57,890 --> 00:30:59,156
- 10 of 10.
- 100%, yeah.
835
00:30:59,225 --> 00:31:00,224
- You're 10 of 10, Nelly.
836
00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,025
- Coming up,
practice your draw.
837
00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:03,994
Dagger questions are coming.
838
00:31:04,063 --> 00:31:05,729
[applause]
839
00:31:05,798 --> 00:31:07,931
- I don't want to throw
this person under the bus
840
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,734
because I said
I wouldn't even say anything.
841
00:31:10,803 --> 00:31:15,072
- "Chauncey, you tweeted the
girls on season 38 are fake.
842
00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:18,208
Who specifically
were you talking about?"
843
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,744
- I was trying to be a nice guy
and lend out my clothes,
844
00:31:20,813 --> 00:31:22,980
and people started [bleep]
on them, I guess.
845
00:31:29,255 --> 00:31:30,687
[applause]
846
00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:32,356
- Welcome back
to "The Challenge Reunion."
847
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:34,491
We got more fan questions.
848
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,926
Let's see
if they send challengers
849
00:31:35,995 --> 00:31:37,661
running for the daggers.
850
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,864
Quinn wants to know, "Jordan,
on the 'Challenge Podcast,'
851
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:44,368
"Tori said she heard you
and Laurel hooked up recently.
852
00:31:44,436 --> 00:31:47,204
What's the story there?"
853
00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:48,939
- OK, yeah.
I'll pull it.
854
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:52,442
[laughter]
855
00:31:52,511 --> 00:31:54,211
both: Aw.
856
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,580
- Dang, you gotta answer.
857
00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:58,382
- Define "recently."
858
00:31:58,450 --> 00:31:59,650
- Within this last year.
859
00:31:59,718 --> 00:32:01,285
- No.
- I just want to say this.
860
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:02,719
I was being petty
when I was speaking on it
861
00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:05,222
because I still feel like
it wasn't my business.
862
00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:06,523
It wasn't my business.
- No, no.
863
00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:07,724
I feel like
I have respect for you,
864
00:32:07,793 --> 00:32:08,892
you have respect for Jordan.
865
00:32:08,961 --> 00:32:10,160
We all have respect
for each other.
866
00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:12,029
Like, Jordan and I
were in a relationship.
867
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:13,030
We loved each other.
868
00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:14,398
There will always
be love there.
869
00:32:14,466 --> 00:32:16,466
When you ended your engagement,
I cared about him,
870
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:17,701
and I just wanted to say,
871
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:19,369
I'm here for you
if you need to talk,
872
00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:22,839
with no intention
to, like, do anything.
873
00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:25,976
And I happened to be
on an externship in California.
874
00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:27,945
And I went to go and visit him.
875
00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:30,314
But that was, like,
over a year ago.
876
00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:31,915
I don't want you
to feel, like,
877
00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,583
any way about it.
- I don't.
878
00:32:33,652 --> 00:32:35,886
I almost feel bad because
he told me that in confidence,
879
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:37,220
and I was just petty
on a podcast.
880
00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:38,322
- Oh.
881
00:32:38,390 --> 00:32:39,623
- Honestly,
I don't feel bad at all.
882
00:32:39,692 --> 00:32:41,024
And I'm happy that
you guys have what you have.
883
00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:42,693
I'm happy we have what we have,
and we can move on.
884
00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:44,461
- All right.
- Leanne asks,
885
00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:45,996
"Chauncey, you tweeted
886
00:32:46,065 --> 00:32:48,699
"the girls on season 38
are fake.
887
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:50,934
Who specifically
were you talking about?"
888
00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:52,602
- Damn.
- Um...
889
00:32:52,671 --> 00:32:54,438
- Pull a dagger.
- Dagger.
890
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:56,273
- A'ight,
I'ma pull a dagger first.
891
00:32:56,342 --> 00:32:57,841
- You know
it's not the left one.
892
00:32:57,910 --> 00:33:00,243
- The left one.
- No, pull one over--
893
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:01,611
- Oh.
894
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,914
- [bleep].
- OK, well...
895
00:33:03,983 --> 00:33:06,650
So basically,
I was just saying, like,
896
00:33:06,719 --> 00:33:09,186
a lot of the girls,
from what I've seen,
897
00:33:09,254 --> 00:33:11,188
would, like,
be so nice to Amber.
898
00:33:11,256 --> 00:33:12,589
And then we would hear stuff
899
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,591
about them talking [bleep]
behind her back.
900
00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:18,295
And so, I'm like, OK,
that's fake energy to me.
901
00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:20,430
I even talked to Aneesa
on her podcast.
902
00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:22,065
And I said
that you called her a snake
903
00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:24,201
and I don't [bleep] with that,
you know what I'm saying?
904
00:33:24,269 --> 00:33:26,703
So I targeted it
towards Aneesa.
905
00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:28,872
I won't lie.
And I did tell you that, again.
906
00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:32,209
I did target it towards Nurys,
and then that's about it.
907
00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:33,677
- I still want to know
right now
908
00:33:33,746 --> 00:33:38,315
who the hell here lied
to you guys and told you guys
909
00:33:38,384 --> 00:33:41,184
that we had a "group chat"
where we were talking [bleep]
910
00:33:41,253 --> 00:33:42,319
about Amber?
'Cause that never happened.
911
00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:44,421
Because
whoever told you guys that
912
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:45,722
is a [bleep] liar.
913
00:33:45,791 --> 00:33:47,024
- My thing is, is, like,
914
00:33:47,092 --> 00:33:49,092
I don't want to throw
this person under the bus
915
00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:51,795
because I said
I wouldn't even say anything.
916
00:33:51,864 --> 00:33:55,132
And that, right there,
I said that to her.
917
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,333
- Well, we know it's a girl.
918
00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,568
- I want to respect that.
- All right.
919
00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:00,504
Let's pivot
to a really important topic
920
00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:02,105
that came up this season.
921
00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:03,974
Tori, you opened up
922
00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:06,043
about your mental health
journey this season.
923
00:34:06,111 --> 00:34:08,011
And thank you for sharing that,
first off,
924
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,980
because I think
it was really incredible.
925
00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:12,015
Why did you feel like talking
926
00:34:12,084 --> 00:34:14,751
about your mental health
journey was so important?
927
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:17,320
- It's so crazy. It was the
easiest thing to talk about,
928
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:19,589
because, like,
I've had to be on this stage
929
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,458
and have
so many difficult conversations
930
00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:22,893
and own up
to really hard things.
931
00:34:22,961 --> 00:34:25,362
But to, like, sit here
and to, like, try to heal
932
00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:28,231
and work through things,
like, it's respectful.
933
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,834
And I respect myself for it,
and I'm so happy.
934
00:34:30,903 --> 00:34:32,502
I literally am
the best I've ever been.
935
00:34:32,571 --> 00:34:34,538
- What made you want to focus
on your mental health
936
00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:37,074
in the first place?
937
00:34:37,142 --> 00:34:39,376
- Well, I was deteriorating.
938
00:34:39,445 --> 00:34:43,346
And I got to a point
where it just got hard.
939
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:44,781
- You were suffering.
- Yeah.
940
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,850
- And there's no need to suffer
if you don't have to.
941
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:48,318
all: Yeah.
- But I took it out
942
00:34:48,387 --> 00:34:50,454
on so many people
I really cared about,
943
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,155
but not intentionally.
944
00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:54,991
Yeah, God, it sucks.
- It's OK to cry.
945
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,627
- I'm really thankful
I am who I am today.
946
00:34:57,696 --> 00:34:59,362
I don't want to be a burden.
947
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:03,033
And I'm responsible for myself
and my own happiness,
948
00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:04,901
so happy tears.
- Good.
949
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:05,902
- Love that.
- Hell yeah.
950
00:35:05,971 --> 00:35:07,137
- Thank you.
- Happy for you.
951
00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:09,573
- I love you, Tori.
- All right.
952
00:35:09,641 --> 00:35:12,909
Amber, backstage, you shared
something really personal.
953
00:35:12,978 --> 00:35:15,245
And I want to give you
an opportunity
954
00:35:15,314 --> 00:35:16,746
to share with everybody
955
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:20,550
something important that's
occurred in your life recently.
956
00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,219
- First of all,
this is the first time
957
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:23,487
I'm sharing this with anyone
958
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:24,955
except for my family
and Chauncey.
959
00:35:26,425 --> 00:35:29,359
I was diagnosed as autistic.
960
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:33,230
- So tell us a little bit about
that kind of process for you.
961
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:35,999
How did you come
to get that diagnosis?
962
00:35:36,101 --> 00:35:38,468
- I struggle
in social settings.
963
00:35:38,537 --> 00:35:41,071
And this pressure
has been so much on me.
964
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:42,272
And I've taken meds
965
00:35:42,341 --> 00:35:46,076
for depression and anxiety
in this game,
966
00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:52,582
and I've told people I haven't
because it was embarrassing.
967
00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,484
- Are you good?
- It's OK.
968
00:35:54,553 --> 00:35:58,288
- No, but it was embarrassing
for people to be like--
969
00:35:58,357 --> 00:36:00,357
to make it seem like
it wasn't working.
970
00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:02,359
So it was something deeper.
971
00:36:02,427 --> 00:36:06,163
And so, after 38,
I went through--
972
00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:08,832
you know,
I really needed help.
973
00:36:08,901 --> 00:36:12,169
It's been so hard,
and I had to figure out
974
00:36:12,237 --> 00:36:14,371
why I'm this person,
and why my whole life,
975
00:36:14,439 --> 00:36:16,873
I've felt the way I've felt
and I am this way.
976
00:36:16,942 --> 00:36:18,742
I'm trying to find
my own community of people
977
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:19,943
that understand that.
978
00:36:20,012 --> 00:36:21,444
- Yeah,
you were sharing with me
979
00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:25,048
kind of how there's autistic
traits that you experience.
980
00:36:25,117 --> 00:36:27,851
Like, I think it was
called mirroring or masking.
981
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,886
Can you explain to everyone
what that means?
982
00:36:29,955 --> 00:36:31,521
- This is a fairly
new journey for me.
983
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:34,891
I am still learning a lot
about the diagnosis.
984
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,295
Basically, like,
I camouflage myself to fit in.
985
00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:40,330
So if I see someone
hugging someone--
986
00:36:40,399 --> 00:36:42,799
like, doing something, like,
I feel I have to mirror that.
987
00:36:42,868 --> 00:36:45,101
Like, I stim a lot, which
I don't know if you guys know.
988
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:49,139
I, like, rub my hands or
I bite my lip or twirl my hair.
989
00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:51,875
I don't know,
it's difficult
990
00:36:51,944 --> 00:36:55,345
finding out later also
in life, you know?
991
00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:57,214
I wish I would have
found out a lot sooner
992
00:36:57,282 --> 00:37:00,617
because I've struggled
with my identity for 34 years.
993
00:37:00,686 --> 00:37:02,986
But I love me.
994
00:37:03,055 --> 00:37:06,156
And it's also
given me the chance
995
00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:12,229
to, you know, embrace
this amazing person I am.
996
00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:15,065
I'm not used to doing this.
I'm so sorry.
997
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:18,068
- Don't be sorry.
- You're not judged at all.
998
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:19,169
- No.
both: Yeah.
999
00:37:19,238 --> 00:37:22,305
- Your diagnosis
does not define you.
1000
00:37:22,374 --> 00:37:24,474
We've loved you before this,
1001
00:37:24,543 --> 00:37:26,443
and we'll continue
to love you after.
1002
00:37:26,511 --> 00:37:28,178
- And you're saying you're
seeking out this new community
1003
00:37:28,247 --> 00:37:30,280
of people that accepts you,
and I want to tell you, Amber,
1004
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:32,616
that, like, when we're on
a show, and we're all filming,
1005
00:37:32,684 --> 00:37:35,018
and we're
in that pressure cooker,
1006
00:37:35,087 --> 00:37:37,053
it really
is sometimes difficult
1007
00:37:37,122 --> 00:37:39,956
for people to really have
compassion and to be supportive
1008
00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:42,459
because we're all fighting
for the same thing.
1009
00:37:42,527 --> 00:37:43,460
But I don't want you
to think that
1010
00:37:43,528 --> 00:37:44,961
you're on this stage alone.
1011
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:46,630
I don't want you to think that
you're in this world alone.
1012
00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,531
We really do, like,
care about you.
1013
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,134
We really do support you, even
though it may not come across.
1014
00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:52,802
- You're the man.
That was so sweet.
1015
00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:54,371
- We love you, Amber.
- We love you.
1016
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:55,572
- I'm just glad and happy
1017
00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:57,607
that she's able to do it
with all you guys
1018
00:37:57,676 --> 00:37:59,409
and so you guys could see
who she really is--
1019
00:37:59,478 --> 00:38:00,810
or see her for her.
1020
00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:02,112
- One more thing is, like,
1021
00:38:02,214 --> 00:38:05,849
I want to just be
a good influence
1022
00:38:05,917 --> 00:38:09,519
to other neurodivergent people
out there.
1023
00:38:09,588 --> 00:38:11,921
You could do whatever you want.
I mean, I'm here.
1024
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:15,492
It feels good to,
I don't know, be myself.
1025
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,295
And I just want you guys
to know that this is me.
1026
00:38:18,363 --> 00:38:21,097
- And you're a champion,
and we love you.
1027
00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:22,932
And great job.
- Thank you, guys.
1028
00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:24,768
- We'll be right back.
1029
00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:27,103
There is one thing
I did hear about backstage,
1030
00:38:27,172 --> 00:38:29,506
something about a hookup
with Faysal,
1031
00:38:29,574 --> 00:38:31,808
something to do
with your fur coat.
1032
00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:33,376
- [gasps]
- Whoo!
1033
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:35,011
[cheering]
1034
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,081
- That's how you get a girl
pregnant.
1035
00:38:45,057 --> 00:38:47,424
[cheers and applause]
1036
00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:49,626
- Welcome back
to "The Challenge Reunion."
1037
00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:52,228
There is one thing
I did hear about backstage,
1038
00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:54,197
something
about a hookup with Faysal,
1039
00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:55,699
but it didn't have anything
to do with you.
1040
00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:58,802
It had something to do
with your fur coat.
1041
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,337
What happened?
- Well, I was trying
1042
00:39:00,405 --> 00:39:02,405
to be a nice guy
and lend out my clothes,
1043
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,075
and people started
[bleep] on them, I guess.
1044
00:39:05,143 --> 00:39:06,843
- Whoa!
- Whoa!
1045
00:39:06,912 --> 00:39:09,179
- Wait. Who were the people?
Who were the people?
1046
00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:11,881
- I heard this story.
I don't know who.
1047
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:13,750
- That's the jacket?
- No, that's not it.
1048
00:39:13,819 --> 00:39:14,984
That's the sweater.
1049
00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:17,020
- Oh, it wasn't that one?
Thank God, 'cause I wore
1050
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:18,188
the [bleep] out of that one.
- No, you love that one.
1051
00:39:18,256 --> 00:39:20,557
- Does anyone want
to fess up to this?
1052
00:39:20,659 --> 00:39:22,759
- Listen,
Nelson and Olivia used it
1053
00:39:22,828 --> 00:39:24,861
as a [bleep]
Sealy Posturepedic.
1054
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:26,663
- Yo, you're a narc, bro.
Nobody else was gonna--
1055
00:39:26,732 --> 00:39:27,864
- Thank you.
1056
00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:30,400
- Maybe Nelson
did get some payback.
1057
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:33,670
all: Oh.
[laughter]
1058
00:39:33,739 --> 00:39:36,773
- Nelson, do you have
any recollection of this event
1059
00:39:36,842 --> 00:39:38,274
and what went down?
1060
00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:40,377
- No comment.
- Wow.
1061
00:39:40,445 --> 00:39:42,979
- Great night, but...
[laughter]
1062
00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:44,581
- No comment, but comment.
1063
00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:46,916
- OK, OK.
1064
00:39:46,985 --> 00:39:48,551
Well, we dug
through the footage,
1065
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:51,621
and there was another funny
moment fans didn't witness.
1066
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:55,058
Take a look
at this never-before-seen clip
1067
00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:57,160
of Chauncey.
- Yes!
1068
00:39:57,229 --> 00:40:00,130
[lively music]
1069
00:40:00,198 --> 00:40:03,133
[cheering]
1070
00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:07,771
♪ ♪
1071
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,673
- Chippendales, here you come.
1072
00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:13,676
I feel like
I'm feeling a fan question
1073
00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:15,145
just come to mind right now.
1074
00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:16,479
Can they get an encore?
1075
00:40:16,548 --> 00:40:18,815
- Yes!
- Cue the music.
1076
00:40:18,884 --> 00:40:21,818
[cheering]
1077
00:40:21,887 --> 00:40:28,291
♪ ♪
1078
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560
- That's
how you get a girl pregnant.
1079
00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:31,961
- That's why y'all
got a kid right now.
1080
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,530
- Now you got a kid.
- That was awesome.
1081
00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:35,565
[laughter]
1082
00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:37,967
Great way to go out.
1083
00:40:38,036 --> 00:40:40,203
Congrats
on this amazing season,
1084
00:40:40,272 --> 00:40:41,838
first of all,
to our champs.
1085
00:40:41,907 --> 00:40:43,206
- Yes.
[cheering]
1086
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:45,575
- Another epic season
is right around the corner.
1087
00:40:45,644 --> 00:40:47,710
Until then, I'm Maria Menounos.
Good night.
1088
00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:50,780
[cheers and applause]