>>> RAFAEL MAR ANNO GROSSI, HEAD OF THE U.N. NUCLEAR WATCHDOG, MONITORS THE THREAT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN IRAN, NORTH KOREA,
AND RUSSIA. AND AS YOU'LL HEAR, HE IS SOUNDING A SERIOUS WARNING ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION IN
UKRAINE. WHEN I REALIZED THAT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT WAS UNDER ATTACK -- >> IT'S MIND-BOGGLING.
>> THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF WORLD CUP STICKER ALBUMS. AND THIS GUY HAS FIVE OF THEM. AND HE AIN'T SELLING.
>> GEES. >> FLORIDA CEILING. >> HE LIVES IN WHAT IS LESS A HOME THAN A STICKER REPOSITORY.
EVEN IN YOUR DAUGHTER'S ROOM. HE HAS HALF A MILLION STICKERS SPILLING OUT OF EVERY DRAWER. VALUABLE SHEETS ARE EVERYWHERE,
EVEN HIDDEN UNDER A TABLECLOTH. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO EAT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SACRED. >> THESE ARE ALL RARE.
>>> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE ANYTHING SURVIVING ON THE EXPANSIVE BADLANDS IN RURAL WYOMING.
BUT IN THIS EMPTY CORRIDOR OF THE COWBOY STATE IS A THUNDERING HERD OF MUSTANGS. UNTOUCHED, WILD, AND
BREATHTAKINGLY BEAUTIFUL. WHAT'S HAPPENIN TO THESE THOUSANDS OF WILD HORSES? THAT'S OUR STORY TONIGHT.
>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES."
>>> 60 YEARS AGO TO THE DAY, NOVEMBER 20th, THE WORLD SIGHED IN RELIEF AS THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS ENDED.
IT WAS THE CLOSEST WE EVER CAME TO NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON -- TILL NOW, WITH RUSSIA THREATENING TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THE WAR.
AND THEN THERE'S THE DIRE AND DETERIORATING CONDITION OF EUROPE'S BIGGEST NUCLEAR POWER PLANT, ZAPORIZHZHIA, IN
RUSSIAN-OCCUPIED UKRAINE. THE SITUATION IS CAREFULLY MONITORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY IN VIENNA,
THE U.N.'S NUCLEAR WATCHDOG TASKED WITH MAKING SURE NUCLEAR FACILITIES ARE SAFE AND ATOMIC MATERIAL IS USED ONLY FOR
PEACEFUL PURPOSES. ITS DIRECTOR GENERAL, RAFAEL MARIANO GROSSI, RECENTLY INSPECTED THE SITE...
WHICH MAY BE THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACE IN THE WORLD. >> SO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG: IS THIS THE FIRST TIME A MAJOR
POWER PLANT HAS BEEN UNDER FIRE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR? >> WELL, IT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED THING, REALLY, IN SO MANY WAYS.
THIS PLACE IS AT THE FRONT LINE WHICH MAKES THE WHOLE THING SO VOLATILE AND IN NEED OF AN URGENT ACTION.
ZAPORIZHZHIA HAS BEEN SHELLED REPEATEDLY SINCE MARCH, WITH BOTH SIDES BLAMING EACH OTHER. BEFORE THE WAR THE PLANT
SUPPLIED 20% OF UKRAINE'S POWER. IT'S NOW LARGELY IDLE, BUT THE REACTORS STILL NEED TO BE CONSTANTLY COOLED DOWN WITH
CIRCULATING WATER. IF THEY OVERHEAT, IT COULD LEAD TO NUCLEAR CATASTROPHE WITHIN HOURS.
>> THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BEING COOLED BY ELECTRICITY THAT'S COMING IN FROM THE TOWN, AND THERE'S SHELLING.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT ELECTRICITY WENT DOWN? >> WHAT YOU HAVE IN THAT SITUATION IS EMERGENCY SYSTEMS
THAT KICK IN. LIKE DIESEL GENERATORS THAT YOU CAN HAVE ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND YOU DON'T WANT THE BIGGEST
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN EUROPE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST IN THE WORLD, TO BE COOLED WITH -- BASICALLY AN EMERGENCY SYSTEM WHICH IS
DEPENDENT ON FUEL. BECAUSE WHEN YOUR DIESELS ARE OUT OF WHATEVER YOU PUT IN IT TO MAKE THEM WORK, THEN WHAT
HAPPENS? THEN YOU HAVE A MELTDOWN. THEN YOU HAVE A BIG RADIOLOGICAL NUCLEAR EMERGENCY OR AN
ACCIDENT, AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT. >> SO THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY PRECARIOUS.
>> TOTALLY. UNTIL WE HAVE THIS PLANT PROTECTED, THE POSSIBILITY OF THE NUCLEAR CATASTROPHE IS
THERE. >> POSSIBLY DWARFING CHERNOBYL, A FAR SMALLER UKRAINIAN PLANT THAT FAMOUSLY BLEW UP 36 YEARS
AGO. IN LATE AUGUST, AFTER MONTHS OF NEGOTIATING WITH BOTH SIDES, DIRECTOR GENERAL GROSSI LED HIS
AGENCY'S FIRST MISSION INTO AN ACTIVE WARZONE, TO INSPECT THE STABILITY OF THE SITE. >> AND AS WE WERE APPROACHING
THE LAST UKRAINIAN CHECKPOINT, WE STARTED HEARING SHOOTING, QUITE HEAVY SHOOTING. VERY CLOSE TO US.
SO AT THAT POINT EVEN THE PEOPLE AT THE CHECKPOINT WERE RUNNING FOR SHELTER. >> DO YOU THINK THAT THE CONVOY
ITSELF WAS A TARGET? >> I THINK IT WAS A CLEAR ATTEMPT TO STOP US TO SAY, "GO HOME. THIS IS NOT YOUR PLACE."
BUT THEY PROCEEDED. THERE WERE SOLDIERS, TANKS AND ARMORED TRUCKS EVERYWHERE. THE RUSSIANS ARE ACTUALLY USING
THE NUCLEAR PLANT AS THEIR MILITARY BASE. >> WHEN YOU WENT TO VISIT, TO INSPECT, YOU COULD GO ANYWHERE?
>> YES. >> YOU WEREN'T KEPT FROM -- >> YES, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE IAEA.
WE ARE KNOWN AS THE NUCLEAR WATCHDOG. > WELL, THERE ARE REPORTS THAT YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED INTO SOME
CRISIS ROOM THERE -- INTO THE CONTROL ROOM. IS THAT NOT TRUE? >> WELL, THERE WERE AREAS
THAT WE WERE LIMITED. BUT ALL THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO SEE WE COULD SEE. >> YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THE
CONTROL ROOM? >> YEAH, WE DID WANT TO SEE IT. BUT FOR US, WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS TO BE LOOKING AT THE ESSENTIAL
NUCLEAR OPERATION OF THE PLANT. AND THIS WE COULD SEE. >> THAT INCLUDED EVIDENCE THAT ROCKETS HAD COME DANGEROUSLY
CLOSE TO THE REACTORS AND OTHER SENSITIVE AREAS. >> I WAS ON THE TOP OF A BUILDING WHERE THEY ARE STORING
FRESH FUEL, THE FUEL THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO THE REACTORS AND -- >> NUCLEAR FUEL IS WHAT WE'RE --
>> NUCLEAR FUEL -- >> -- TALKING ABOUT. >> NUCLEAR FUEL. AND I -- I COULD SEE VERY BIG
HOLES OUT ON THAT ROOF. >> ON THE ROOF? >> YEAH. AT LEAST TWO I SAW, VERY, VERY
BIG. >> ON A SATELLITE PHOTO HE ALSO POINTED OUT THE SWITCHYARD WHERE THE ELECTRICITY COMES IN FROM
THE TOWN. >> SO THIS IS WHERE THE EXTERNAL POWER COMES TO COOL THE REACTORS DOWN.
AND THIS PLACE WAS SHELLED SEVERAL TIMES, SEVERAL TIMES, WHICH TELLS YOU THAT PEOPLE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
>> THEY WERE TRYING TO CUT OFF THE POWER SOURCE. >> HERE, HERE, HERE...EXACTLY. >> SHELLING ALSO DESTROYED ONE
OF THE PLANT'S OFFICE BUILDINGS. THESE PICTURES WERE GIVEN TO US BY ANDRIY TUZ, A PLANT SPOKESMAN WHO FLED UKRAINE AFTER WORKING
FOUR MONTHS UNDER RUSSIAN OCCUPATION. >> SO TELL US WHAT THAT WAS LIKE, WORKING INSIDE THE PLANT,
UNDER RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FROM THE -- >> YES. [ SIGH ]
RUSSIAN TROOPS TAKE ALL OUR TOP MANAGER WITH GUN AND THEY DO ONLY WHAT RUSSIAN TROOPS WANT. >> DID YOU FEEL LIKE A HOSTAGE?
>> YES, YES, I FEEL LIKE I AM PRISONER IN THIS NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. I CANNOT SAY NOTHING BECAUSE
THEY GO WITH GUN. >> THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF IMPRISONMENTS, KIDNAPPINGS, AND TORTURE OF UKRAINIAN EMPLOYEES.
THE HEAD OF THE PLANT WAS DETAINED. ANDRIY TUZ TOLD US ABOUT THE PRESSURE ONE OF THE SAFETY
INSPECTORS FELT. >> IT'S HIS WORK TO GO AND CHECK SOME PUMPS, HOW IT WORK, HOW BAROMETER, WHAT PRESSURE, WHAT
TEMPERATURE. BUT HE GO AND RUSSIAN TANKS STAY IN FRONT OF HIM. IT'S TERRIBLE.
HE CANNOT DO HIS WORK. IT'S TO PROTECT NUCLEAR FUEL, TO CONTROL NUCLEAR REACTION. >> WHEN YOU'RE OPERATING A
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT AND YOU'RE UNDER STRESS, AND YOU'RE WORRIED, AND YOU'RE FEELING THREATENED, DOESN'T THAT LEAD TO
THE POSSIBILITY OF HUMAN ERROR? >> OF COURSE, YES. >> AND THE SHELLING GOES ON. >> AND THE SHELLING GOES ON.
AND THIS IS WHY -- WE HAVE BEEN TRYING. I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROTECTION
ZONE. WHICH IS BASICALLY DON'T ATTACK THE PLANT. >> HE TOOK HIS PROPOSAL TO BOTH
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY IN KYIV AND PRESIDENT PUTIN, IN A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING LAST MONTH IN ST. PETERSBURG.
>> INTERESTINGLY, YOU SAT VERY CLOSE TO HIM, ACTUALLY, I THINK CLOSER THAN YOU AND I ARE RIGHT NOW.
>> MAYBE, YES. >> WOULD YOU SAY THAT HE IS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON? >> ABSOLUTELY --
>> -- AT THIS NUCLEAR PLANT? >> HE KNOWS EVERY DETAIL OF IT, WHICH WAS SURPRISING TO ME. IN MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM, I
COULD SEE THAT HE HAD A VERY DETAILED KNOWLEDGE NOT ONLY OF THE LAYOUT OF THE PLANT BUT ALSO -- AND VERY IMPORTANTLY --
OF THE ELECTRICAL ACCESS, THE EXTERNAL POWER SOURCE. >> WHERE THESE THINGS ARE BEING BOMBED?
>> IT IS -- IT IS A FACILITY THAT HE KNOWS VERY WELL. >> IS MR. PUTIN TRYING TO USE THIS PLANT AS A WEAPON?
AND WE KNOW THAT HE'S WEAPONIZED ENERGY IN THIS WAR BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE'S USED OIL AND GAS. IT JUST RAISES THE QUESTION
WHETHER THIS PLANT IS SEEN IN HIS MIND AS A WAY TO SQUEEZE THE UKRAINIANS. SOMEONE SAID TO US THE OTHER
DAY, "YOU KNOW, THIS IS HIS DIRTY BOMB, THIS PLANT." >> YEAH, BUT IF YOU PROTECT IT, THERE'S NO DIRTY BOMB.
>> ON MONDAY, THE DAY WE MET GROSSI, PRESIDENTS JOE BIDEN AND XI JINPING MET IN BALI AND CONDEMNED PUTIN'S THREAT TO USE
A NUCLEAR WEAPON, AND IN TURKEY CIA DIRECTOR WILLIAM BURNS WARNED HIS RUSSIAN COUNTERPART OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH A
MOVE. >> HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A DIRTY BOMB OR A REAL BOMB -- I MEAN, THIS KIND
OF IDEA OF NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON BECAUSE COUNTRIES ARE NOW THROWING THE IDEA OF USING A NUCLEAR WEAPON.
>> YES. >> THEY'RE JUST THROWING IT UP IN THE AIR. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT USING
NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS "YOU COULD THIS MORTAR OR THAT HOWITZER OR THAT..." I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
>> SO, HEADS OF STATE SHOULD NOT BE THROWING THIS AROUND. >> THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.
>> RAFAEL GROSSI, AT 61, HAS BEEN WORKING TO PREVENT THE PROLIFERATION OF NUKES FOR ALMOST FOUR DECADES.
HE'S SEEN HERE WITH HIS FELLOW ARGENTINIAN, POPE FRANCIS, AND HIS CHILDREN, SEVEN DAUGHTERS AND ONE SON.
WE WATCHED HIM COACHING HIS SON'S SOCCER TEAM ON A RARE DAY OFF. HE'S BEEN PARTICULARLY BUSY,
GIVEN THE NUMBER OF ROGUE STATES SUSPECTED OF DEVELOPING A BOMB. >> HOW CLOSE IS IRAN TO MAKING A NUCLEAR BOMB?
>> AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF PRODUCTION OF THIS ENRICHED URANIUM, IRAN HAS ACCUMULATED ALREADY ENOUGH MATERIAL TO HAVE
MORE THAN ONE DEVICE, IF THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT WOULD INDICATE
THAT IRAN HAS A NUCLEAR WEAPON PROGRAM AT THE MOMENT. >> REALLY? >> REALLY.
>> SO IF I SAID TO YOU, "HAVE WE REACHED THE POINT OF NO RETURN WITH IRAN? IS IT TIME TO JUST ADMIT THEY'RE
A NUCLEAR POWER?" >> NO, WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT POINT. BUT WE NEED TO WORK VERY HARD SO
WE DON'T GET THERE. >> DIRECTOR GENERAL GROSSI IS CONCERNED ABOUT ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT HAS BECOME A MEMBER OF THE
NUCLEAR CLUB, NORTH KOREA, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO CONDUCT ITS FIRST UNDERGROUND NUCLEAR TEST SINCE 2017.
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ISSUE ON HIS PLATE IN THE PACIFIC. >> THE CHINESE ARE PROTESTING THE SALE OF EIGHT NUCLEAR
SUBMARINES BY THE UNITED STATES AND GREAT BRITAIN TO AUSTRALIA. THE SUBS CONTAIN NUCLEAR WAR MATERIAL.
>> DO YOU PROTEST THE SALE? >> IF THEY WANT TO DO THIS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT WITH US.
>> AND DOES AUSTRALIA HAVE A SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT WITH YOU? >> WE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON THAT, WHICH MEANS THAT WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO INSPECT THIS NUCLEAR MATERIAL IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY SO THAT IT IS
NOT DIVERTED, USED TO MAKE BOMBS. >> DO YOU THINK THIS AGREEMENT, IF IT SHOULD COME TO PASS, WOULD
SATISFY THE CHINESE? HAVE YOU TALKED TO CHINA? >> WELL, CHINA HAS A VERY FIRM POSITION AGAINST THIS.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF IT. THEY HAVE EVEN BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF ME.
>> THERE'S THIS ISSUE OF A DOUBLE STANDARD. YOU KNOW, IF THE SALE WAS TO LIBYA, THE WEST WOULD BE
SCREAMING. AND THAT IT'S AUSTRALIA, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY GET A PASS. DOUBLE STANDARD QUESTION.
>> WELL, THEY MAY GET THEIR PASS. THEY WILL NOT GET MINE UNTIL I HAVE A SATISFACTORY AGREEMENT.
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT FOR ONE SECOND, TO ZAPORIZHZHIA. WHEN I REALIZED THAT A NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT WAS UNDER ATTACK, MY MIND CAN'T EVEN CALIBRATE WHAT THIS MEANS. >> IT'S MIND-BOGGLING, YEAH,
EXACTLY. A DEMAND FOR PROTECTION OF THE PLANT IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU DON'T SHELL A NUCLEAR POWER
PLANT. YOU DON'T STORM A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. >> WHAT ABOUT USING A NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT AS A MILITARY BASE? >> THIS IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT I HAVE PROPOSED. >> YEAH, BUT NO ONE'S AGREEING.
>> THEY WILL. >> YOU THINK? >> I THINK. >> YOU'RE ALWAYS OPTIMISTIC,
THIS IS YOU. >> I MUST. SHOULD I THROW THE TOWEL? IF I DO THAT, CAN YOU IMAGINE
THAT? >>> THE WORLD CUP KICKED OFF TODAY IN QATAR, AND WHILE YOU'LL HEAR ALL MANNER OF OLES AND
ALLEZS OVER THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS, THIS MIGHT BE THE EVENT'S ULTIMATE SOUNDTRACK: GOT, GOT, NEED...IT'S NOT THE SCALPERS
HAWKING TICKETS, IT'S THE REFRAIN OF FANS SIFTING THROUGH PACKS OF WORLD CUP STICKERS. THINK SOCCER'S ANSWER TO
BASEBALL CARDS. BEFORE THE 1970 WORLD CUP, FOUR BROTHERS IN ITALY, THE PANINIS, BEGAN PRINTING COLLECTIBLES
FEATURING IMAGES OF PLAYERS FROM EVERY COUNTRY IN THE COMPETITION. MORE THAN 50 YEARS LATER, FANS
ALL OVER THE GLOBE SCOUR FOR THAT OBSCURE SERBIAN GOALKEEPER OR ELUSIVE LIONEL MESSI -- HOPING TO COMPLETE THEIR ALBUMS.
THE PANINI STICKER PHENOMENON HAS BECOME A BOOMING, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND A CENTRAL PART OF THE WORLD CUP
EXPERIENCE. FOR MILLIONS OF SOCCER FANS, THE WORLD CUP UNOFFICIALLY BEGAN WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE PANINI
STICKERS FOR THIS QUADRENNIAL EVENT SHOT ONTO THE MARKET. >> YES, MORGAN, MORGAN, MORGAN! >> OH, I GOT ARGENTINA!
>> YES, I GOT RONALDO! >> IN A CLASSROOM IN THE TOWN OF SUDBURY, ENGLAND. >> IN THE THRUMMING CITIES OF
SAO PAULO. >> AND MEXICO CITY... >> FANS OF ALL STRIPES EMBARKED ON A COMMON TREASURE HUNT.
>> ANYBODY GOT THAT EXTRA RONALDO ONE? >> COLLECTING 670 STICKERS DEPICTING THE PLAYERS AND TEAMS
FROM THIS WORLD CUP. >> I'M LIKE SHAKING. I FINALLY DID IT. >> ALL SO THEY CAN COMPLETE
THEIR ALBUM... >> LISTEN, IF YOU HAVE GOLD OR PANINI STICKER TODAY, PEOPLE WILL GO FOR THE STICKER AND NOT
THE GOLD. >> PANINI STICKER'S MORE VALUABLE THAN GOLD YOU'RE SAYING?
>> TODAY, YES. >> FRANCESCO FURNARI IS THE BIGGEST OFFICIAL PANINI DISTRIBUTOR IN THE UNITED
STATES. AN ITALIAN VENEZUELAN AMERICAN, HE IS THE ULTIMATE PANINI STICKER EVANGELIST.
>> HE'S COMPLETED EVERY STICKER ALBUM SINCE 1974, INCLUDING THE 2022 VINTAGE...MANY TIMES OVER...
>> I HAVE ALREADY SEVEN. >> YOU'VE -- YOU'RE A MAN IN YOUR 50s. [ LAUGHTER ]
YOU HAVE SEVEN ALBUMS COMPLETED? >> AND, UH -- STILL COUNTING. [ LAUGHTER ] >> A PACK COSTS $1.20, AND
FURNARI PREDICTS STICKER SALES FROM 2022 WILL REACH 100 MILLION PACKETS IN THE U.S. ALONE, NEARLY A BILLION WORLDWIDE.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER WITH SOME ADHESIVE ON IT. WHAT MAKES THIS SO SPECIAL?
>> JON, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE ALL YOUR LEGENDS. YOU HAVE ALL YOUR BEST PLAYERS AT A DISTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR
HAND. YOU CAN TOUCH THEM, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM. IT'S FANTASTIC.
>> HOW COVETED ARE THESE THINGS? WHEN ARGENTINA RAN OUT OF STICKERS IN SEPTEMBER, ITS SECRETARY OF COMMERCE CALLED AN
EMERGENCY MEETING TO SOLVE THIS NATIONAL CRISIS. >> WE LIVE IN A DIGITAL WORLD. HOW ARE THESE PAPER STICKERS
STILL THIS POPULAR? >> THIS SENSATION, JON, TO GET A PACK, TO RIP IT OUT, TO SMELL IT, TO OPEN IT, AND TO FIND THE
PLAYERS RIGHT HERE, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN REPLICATE IT IN AN ELECTRONIC WAY. >> SO YOU EVEN HAVE A METHOD FOR
HOW YOU'RE RIPPING THAT PACKET OPEN? >> EVERY SINGLE PACK HAS TO BE DONE IN THE SAME WAY.
BY THE WAY, I'VE OPENED AT LEAST -- >> YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. >> -- PROBABLY 2,000 PACKS UP
UNTIL NOW. OH, MY GOD, GERMANY. >> THIS WAS A GOOD ONE? GOOD PACK?
>> THAT WAS A GOOD PULL. I LOVE IT. >> WE WENT TO MODENA, ITALY, TO PANINI'S HEADQUARTERS -- THE
EQUIVALENT OF WILLY WONKA'S FACTORY. >> AS PANINIS ROLLED OFF THE PRESS 21 HOURS A DAY, 11 MILLION
PACKETS A DAY, EACH CONTAINING FIVE STICKERS, THE HEADLINERS -- >> MBAPPE, MESSI, MODRIC...AND THE COMING STARS...PLAYERS WITH
FOUR NAMES, AND THERE'S FRED. [ CHURCH BELL] >> THE PHENOMENON STARTED HERE, NEXT TO THE CATHEDRAL, AT A
NEWSPAPER KIOSK IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. AFTER WORLD WAR II, OLGA PANINI, A WIDOW, RAN THE NEWSSTAND WITH
HER FOUR SONS. NOT UNLIKE A SOCCER TEAM, EACH HAD A SPECIAL SKILL, THE OLDEST SON, GIUSEPPE, WAS THE DREAMER
WITH THE BIG PLANS... >> SALUTE, CHEERS. >> WE MET GIUSEPPE'S SON, ANTONIO, AND GIUSEPPE'S NIECES,
LAURA AND LUCIA PANINI IN MODENA. >> HE WAS LIKE A VOLCANO. HE HAD MANY, MANY IDEAS.
>> A VOLCANO? >> A VOLCANO, YES. >> GIUSEPPE'S INITIAL IDEA WAS TO SELL CARDS DEPICTING FLOWERS.
>> AND WAS A DISASTER. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT THEY REALIZED THAT THE FORMULA WAS OKAY, NOT THE
SUBJECT. >> SHORT OF LIRE, GIUSEPPE HAD, AS IT WERE, ONE LAST SHOT ON GOAL.
IT WAS 1961, AND HE TURNED TO A NEW SUBJECT: ITALIAN SOCCER. IT WAS A HIT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIDS.
>> EVEN IF PRODUCTION WAS RUDIMENTARY... >> ALL THE STICKERS WERE PRINTED AND THEN WERE CUT.
AND THEY WERE MIXING WITH A SHOVEL AT THE BEGINNING. >> TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO DUPLICATES.
>> THEY REPLACED A SHOVEL WITH A CHURN, THE ONE THEY USE NORMALLY FOR MAKING BUTTER OR CHEESE. >> WITH A BUTTER CHURN?
>> YES, YES. [ LAUGHTER ] AND THEY HAD A HANDLE, AND THEY WERE MOVING THIS HANDLE, AND IT
WAS WORKING. >> GIUSEPPE'S BROTHER UMBERTO, THE FAMILY ENGINEER, INVENTED MACHINERY THAT MIXED STICKERS TO
PREVENT DREADED DUPLICATES IN EACH PACK. HIS CONTRAPTIONS WERE SO SUCCESSFUL, THE DESIGNS ARE
STILL IN USE TODAY, 60 YEARS LATER... >> AND ENABLED THE BROTHERS TO SCALE UP THEIR AMBITIONS.
BEFORE THE 1970 WORLD CUP IN MEXICO, THEY PAID A THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH TO SOCCER'S GOVERNING BODY TO BUY THE RIGHTS
TO PRODUCE STICKERS OF THE PLAYERS, NOT LEAST THE GREAT PELE... >> SUDDENLY "PANINI" BECAME
CHIEFLY ASSOCIATED NOT WITH A SANDWICH BUT WITH A WORLDWIDE PASTIME. THE GROWTH OF THE STICKERS
MIRRORING THE GROWTH OF SOCCER. >> ESPANA OTTANTADUE, SPAIN 82. >> ANTONIO ALLEGRA, PANINI'S MARKETING DIRECTOR, TOLD US HOW
COLLECTING THE WORLD CUP ALBUMS OVER THE DECADES BECAME A RITE OF PASSAGE, ALSO A WAY TO MARK TIME.
>> WOW. IT'S THE FIRST APPEARANCE FOR DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA IN THE WORLD CUP.
>> THIS IS MARADONA'S FIRST WORLD CUP? >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. >> THIS ONE IS GERMANY 2006.
AND HERE WE HAVE A VERY, VERY YOUNG MESSI. >> THIS, THIS TEENAGER RIGHT HERE.
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, HE IS 19. >> THERE ARE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE FALLEN OFF THE MAP...AND HAIRSTYLES THAT HAVE FALLEN OUT
OF FASHION... >> HE LOOKS LIKE THE DRUMMER. >> WHAT SIZE IS THAT? >> THAT'S THE ONE, MATE.
>> TODAY, PANINI STICKER PHOTO SHOOTS, LIKE THIS ONE IN ENGLAND, ARE THE WORLD CUP EQUIVALENT OF SCHOOL PICTURE
DAY. >> LOVELY, JUBLY, THANK YOU. >> BACK IN ITALY, MARCELLA MANNORI IS PANINI'S PROJECT
MANAGER OVERSEEING IMAGE CONTROL. >> SOMETIMES THESE PICTURES ARE NOT PERFECT.
MIGHT BE TOO DARK, MAYBE THERE'S A PIMPLE ON SOMEONE'S FACE. AND WE'RE ASKED TO REMOVE IT. >> A LITTLE PHOTOSHOP?
>> CORRECT. >> HEARD ONE STORY OF A FEDERATION ONCE GETTING IN TOUCH AND SAYING, "THIS GUY'S REALLY
UGLY. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?" >> YES, IT'S THE TRUTH. >> SHOULD WE NAME NAMES?
>> NO, I'M STILL WORKING WITH THESE PEOPLE. [ LAUGHTER ] >> SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU
GET THAT CALL? >> WE -- FIRST REPLY IS OF COURSE, "NO, NO WORRY. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE
THE PICTURE." SECOND TIME, THIRD TIME, FOURTH TIME. THE FOURTH TIME I WILL SAY,
"LISTEN, THIS IS HIS FACE, [ LAUGHTER ] IT'S HIS FACE, I'M SORRY. I MEAN WE DID ALL WE COULD.
>> WHAT DO PLAYERS THINK OF STICKER MADNESS? WE ASKED GIGI BUFFON... >> WHO LITERALLY SAVED ITALY
DURING ITS RUN TO THE WORLD CUP TROPHY IN 2006. >> GOOD BALL IN, ZIDANE! AND WHAT A SAVE BY BUFFON.
>> ONE OF THE GREATEST EVER GOALKEEPERS. >> AT AGE 44, HE'S NOT ONLY STILL PLAYING.
>> BUT -- LET'S KEEP THIS BETWEEN US -- HE'S STILL COLLECTING STICKERS, A HOBBY SINCE CHILDHOOD.
>> WHEN YOU STILL COLLECT, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR STICKERS? >> Translator: NOW AND AGAIN, I LIKE THE RITUAL OF GOING TO THE
KIOSK TO BUY, SAY, TEN PACKETS OF STICKERS. IT'S A LITTLE EMBARRASSING, BUT NOW I CAN SAY TO THE KIOSK OWNER
THE STICKERS ARE FOR MY KIDS, AND HE BELIEVES ME. >> BUFFON LET US IN ON ANOTHER SECRET.
>> DO THE PLAYERS SWAP STICKERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM? >> Translator: YES. I THINK IF WE WERE REALLY TO
INVESTIGATE ALL THE PLAYERS IN THE LOCKER ROOM, I THINK 60 TO 70% FILLED THE ALBUM. >> BUFFON APPEARED IN FOUR WORLD
CUP ALBUMS, AGING BEFORE OUR EYES -- AND HIS... >> WE HAVE VISUAL AIDS. >> OOH!
>> HIS FAVORITE STICKER WAS FOR THE 2006 ALBUM -- THE LAST TIME ITALY TRIUMPHED AT THE WORLD CUP.
>> YOU'VE HAD YOUR PICTURE TAKEN THOUSANDS OF TIMES, BUT YOU UNDERSTOOD THIS IS FOR GENERATIONS.
>> Translator: YES, FOR SURE. FOR ME IT WAS A SOLEMN MOMENT, BECAUSE THERE WAS A KIND OF RESPECT THAT I HAD TO SHOW
TOWARDS GIGI THE CHILD AND TO THE DREAMS OF GIGI THE CHILD. [ LAUGHTER ] >> AN HOUR FROM BUFFON'S
PRACTICE FIELD IN PARMA, WE MET ANOTHER CHILD AT HEART, GIANNI BELLINI. >> YOU MUST HAVE THOUSANDS OF
STICKERS. >> CONSIDERED THE MOST PROLIFIC PANINI COLLECTOR IN THE WORLD. >> THE DEBUT EDITION, MEXICO
1970, IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF WORLD CUP STICKER ALBUMS. THIS GUY HAS FIVE OF THEM, AND HE AIN'T SELLIN'.
>> OH, MY GOD, GEES. FLOOR TO CEILING. >> HE LIVES IN WHAT IS LESS A HOME THAN A STICKER REPOSITORY.
>> EVEN IN YOUR DAUGHTER'S ROOM. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE BASEBALL CARDS IN YOUR ATTIC, HE HAS HALF A MILLION STICKERS SPILLING OUT OF
EVERY DRAWER. >> BELLINI EVEN HAS WHOLE SHEETS OF THEM HIDDEN UNDER A TABLECLOTH.
NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO EAT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SACRED. >> IS VERY RARE. >> THESE ARE ALL RARE.
>> LUCKY FOR GIANNI, HIS LONG-SUFFERING WIFE, GIOVANNA, HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR. >> HEAVEN FORBID THERE WERE A
FIRE TONIGHT, YOU HAD TO GO BACK INTO YOUR HOUSE, WHAT WOULD YOU RESCUE FIRST? >> Translator: OBVIOUSLY THE
STICKERS. IF THERE IS A FIRE, MY WIFE WOULD RUN AWAY WITH HER OWN LEGS.
>> YOUR WIFE CAN FEND FOR HERSELF, BUT THE STICKERS CAN'T. >> EXACTLY. >> SATURDAY NIGHTS ARE ALL RIGHT
FOR STICKING AT THE BELLINI HOUSEHOLD. WHILE GIOVANNA WATCHES A MOVIE, GIANNI FILLS HIS ALBUM...AND
NEVER FORGETS A FACE. >> YOU REMEMBER 50 YEARS LATER WHAT THE LAST PLAYER WAS YOU NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE ALBUM?
>> I ALSO REMEMBER THE FIRST STICKER THAT I GOT IN A PACK WHICH WAS SERGIO CARANTINI, A DEFENDER FROM VICENZA.
>> IT'S LIKE YOUR FIRST GIRLFRIEND. >> Translator: HER I DON'T REMEMBER.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> HE'S NOT ALONE IN HIS SOCCER NOSTALGIA. THOSE KIDS WHO GREW UP IN THE
'70s COLLECTING STICKERS ARE NOW GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS, PASSING DOWN THE TRADITION -- LIKE FRANCESCO FURNARI IN
FLORIDA. >> THINK ABOUT THIS. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN FIND A PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN HAVE
DIFFERENT GENERATIONS DOING AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S FANTASTIC. >> HERE'S WHAT ELSE MAKES IT
EXCEPTIONAL. >> MEXICO, POLAND... >> ALMOST EVERYONE THAT COMPLETES THEIR ALBUM DOES SO
NOT THROUGH PURCHASE POWER... >> DID YOU WANT TO TRADE FOR THIS ONE? >> OH, YEAH, ARE YOU TRADING
THAT USA ONE? >> BUT THROUGH OLD-FASHIONED, FACE-TO-FACE TRADING. AROUND THE WORLD, THERE ARE
PANINI STICKERS SWAPPING SESSIONS THAT ARE ORGANIZED, OTHERS THAT ARE IMPROMPTU. >> THIS NEXT MONTH IN THE DESERT
OF QATAR... >> MBAPPE'S GOT ANOTHER ONE! >> ONE COUNTRY WILL LIFT THE TROPHY, BUT MILLIONS WILL FEEL
THEIR PERSONAL VERSION OF WORLD CUP GLORY. >> YOU'VE SEEN PEOPLE COMPLETE THEIR ALBUMS.
WHAT IS THAT FEELING LIKE WHEN YOU GET THAT VERY LAST STICKER? >> LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. WHENEVER YOU PLAY SOCCER AND YOU
SCORE A GOAL IN THE FINAL OF THE TOURNAMENT, THAT'S KIND OF THE FEELING YOU HAVE WHENEVER YOU COMPLETE AN ALBUM.
>> BRAZIL... >> IT'S AN OLD-TIMEY, ANALOG HOBBY, NO SCREEN REQUIRED. IT RELIES ON THE HUMANITY OF
TOUCH. >> I'LL TAKE FRED. >> I'VE GOT PELE. >> OKAY, THANKS.
>> AND THE VALUE IS LARGELY SENTIMENTAL. BUT IN THESE TRIBAL, POLARIZED TIMES, LEAVE IT TO STICKERS TO
TAKE PEOPLE AND COUNTRIES AND BIND THEM TOGETHER. >> YES, THE ARGENTINIAN TEAM.
>>> MISSING A PANINI STICKER? HOW TO COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION AT >>> THERE ARE MORE THAN 75,000
WILD HORSES ROAMING PUBLIC LAND IN THE WEST. "WILD HORSES" ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF DOMESTICATED
HORSES, THE FIRST, BROUGHT HERE BY SPANISH EXPLORERS 50 YEARS AGO. BY 1971, THEIR NUMBERS WERE
DWINDLING AND CONGRESS STEPPED IN PASSING A LAW TO PROTECT THIS ROMANTIC FRAGMENT OF OUR HISTORY.
IT WORKED...ALMOST TOO WELL. TODAY, FEDERAL LAND MANAGERS SAY THE NUMBER OF WILD HORSES IS NEARLY THREE TIMES WHAT IT
SHOULD BE. AND LEFT UNCHECKED, THEIR POPULATION CAN DOUBLE EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT A PROGRAM IN WYOMING DESIGNED TO REIN IN THE WILD HORSES, AND AN UNLIKELY GROUP OF MEN, WE HEADED WEST.
>> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE ANYTHING SURVIVING ON THIS STRETCH OF BADLANDS IN NORTHERN WYOMING. SAGEBRUSH BLANKETS THE HIGH
DESERT ALL THE WAY TO THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS. BUT IN THIS EMPTY QUARTER OF THE COWBOY STATE IS A THUNDERING
HERD OF MUSTANGS...UNTOUCHED, WILD AND BREATHTAKINGLY BEAUTIFUL. BUT WILD HORSES CAN ALSO WRECK
THE RANGELANDS THEY ROAM. GOVERNMENT LAND MANAGERS SAY, IN THE WEST, WILD HORSES ARE COMPETING WITH CATTLE AND
WILDLIFE FOR INCREASINGLY SCARCE WATER AND FOOD AND THEIR OVERPOPULATION OFTEN FURTHER STRAINS THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> SO THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT REGULARLY ROUNDS UP WILD HORSES. MAINLY BY USING SMALL
HELICOPTERS TO LOCATE, CAPTURE AND TRUCK THEM OFF TO CORRALS OR ENCLOSED PASTURES LIKE THIS ONE. A HORSE CAN LIVE FOR ABOUT 20
YEARS AND MOST OF THESE HORSES WILL REMAIN HERE UNTIL THEY DIE. >> THE WIND RIVER WILD HORSE SANCTUARY OUTSIDE LANDER,
WYOMING, IS RUN BY JESS OLDHAM AND HIS FAMILY. >> TALK ABOUT THE HORSES THAT ARE HERE.
FOR MOST OF EM, THIS IS IT, RIGHT? >> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE THE 225 LONG-TERM
RESIDENTS AND -- >> LONG-TERM RESIDENTS? >> LONG-TERM RESIDENTS. >> SOUNDS LIKE A NURSING HOME.
>> THAT'S WHAT I CALL THEM. I MEAN, THEY'RE PART OF OUR FAMILY. AND -- AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE
HERE LONG TERM. >> AND THERE THEY GO. >> YES, MA'AM. >> THE 1,400 ACRE FACILITY IS ON
AN INDIAN RESERVATION. THE OLDHAMs ARE ONE OF DOZENS OF CONTRACTORS PAID BY THE GOVERNMENT TO FEED AND CARE FOR
MUSTANGS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE WILD. ACTIVISTS WANT THE HORSES TO REMAIN FREE.
>> WHY NOT JUST LET THE WILD HORSES BE WILD AND RUN? >> THE HARSH REALITY IS ECOSYSTEMS ARE A DELICATE
BALANCE OF EACH SPECIES CO-EXISTING TOGETHER IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF
RESOURCES IN GRASS AND WATER. AND THE WILD HORSES ARE A VERY DOMINANT SPECIES. THEY'RE SMART.
THEY'RE FAST. THEY EAT A LOT OF FOOD. AND THEY NEED TO BE PROPERLY MANAGED.
>> KEEPING COUNT OF ALL THOSE HORSES IS HOLLE WADDELL, THE DIVISION CHIEF OF THE PROGRAM THAT OVERSEES WILD HORSES FOR
THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT. >> HOW MANY WILD HORSES IS THE GOVERNMENT NOW CARING FOR? >> SO WE ARE CURRENTLY CARING
FOR OVER 57,000 WILD HORSES. >> AND CARING FOR THEM IS NOT INEXPENSIVE. >> NO.
THE COST OF CARE FOR WILD HORSES IN OUR OFF-RANGE CORRALS AND PASTURES WAS TWO-THIRDS OF OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS A
LITTLE OVER $70 MILLION. >> $70 MILLION TO CARE FOR THE WILD HORSES. >> TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
>> TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS, LAST YEAR, THE BUREAU SAYS 3,742 MUSTANGS CAME OFF THE GOVERNMENT ROLLS THROUGH
AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT PAYS INDIVIDUALS A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ADOPT ONE. WILD HORSES ATTRACT RELATIVELY
FEW TAKERS. BUT THESE HORSES DID. >> PICKED FOR THEIR YOUTH, BALANCE, AND TEMPERAMENT, THAT
ARE SENT TO BE TRAINED IN, OF ALL PLACES, PRISONS, LIKE THE WYOMING HONOR FARM. IT'S A 640-ACRE COMPOUND OF TIDY
BUILDINGS, MANICURED LAWNS, CATTLE AND ENOUGH HAY TO FEED THEM. IT MAY LOOK LIKE A DUDE-RANCH,
BUT THIS IS A STATE-RUN MNIMUM-SECURITY PRISON WITH FELONS WORKING THE LAND AND THE HORSES.
THERE ARE NO TOWERS OR ARMED GUARDS, A SIMPLE 4-FOOT CATTLE FENCE MARKS THE PERIMETER BETWEEN THE PRISON AND THE TOWN
OF RIVERTON, WYOMING. >> YEAH, WYOMING HAS A TENDENCY TO DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE A
SMALLER STATE. AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. UNTIL YOU SEE IT YOU CAN'T
ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT YOURSELF. >> CURTIS MOFFAT HAS SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER IN CORRECTIONS. HE'S THE WARDEN ON THE FARM AND
ABOUT THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO DOESN'T WEAR COWBOY BOOTS TO WORK. >> THE THING THAT STRUCK ME WHEN
YOU DRIVE UP, YOU SEE A 4-FOOT-HIGH CATTLE FENCE. WHAT'S TO STOP AN INMATE FROM MAKING A RUN FOR IT OR RIDING
OFF INTO THE SUNSET? >> REALISTICALLY, HIMSELF. MOST OF THESE GUYS ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SENTENCE.
SO MOST OF THEM DON'T WANT TO DESTROY THAT OR, YOU KNOW, CATCH ANOTHER NUMBER, DO ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OR SO.
IT'S ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. >> MOST INMATES HAVE EARNED THE
RIGHT TO BE HERE, TRANSFERRED FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR FROM MORE RESTRICTIVE STATE PRISONS. AND EACH DAY ABOUT 30 INMATES
REPORT TO WORK IN A MAZE OF CHUTES AND PENS WITH WILD HORSES WEIGHING UP TO 1,000 POUNDS. THEIR JOB IS TO TRANSFORM THESE
MUSTANGS FROM WILD BURDENS OF THE STATE INTO RIDING HORSES THAT CAN FETCH THOUSANDS AT AUCTION.
>> THESE GUYS ARE HERE TO DO THEIR TIME. BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT CHANGING THEIR LIFE, PUT A CHANGE IN THEM
IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. >> TRAVIS SHOOPMAN IS THE COWBOY IN CHARGE. HE'S THE MANAGER OF THE FARM.
>> COME ON, BEAUTY QUEENS. >> SHOOPMAN SPENT HIS LIFE TEACHING THE ART OF TRAINING HORSES.
IT SHOWS IN A STRIDE KINKED BY OLD FRACTURES. >> HAVE YOU EVER HAD A HALTER ON THIS HORSE, MR. SUCHOR?
>> NEVER. >> AND A VOICE BOTH FIRM AND CALM -- AS MUCH FOR THE INMATES AS THE HORSES.
>> DO THE ROPE-A-DOPE AND THROW THE ROPE INTO YOUR HAND. DO NOT GET KICKED. >> IT TAKES TIME TO TRAIN A WILD
HORSE, BUT SHOOPMAN SAYS THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT HOW IT STARTS. >> YOU WALK HIM IN THERE, LIKE
YOU JUST KINDA RIP OFF THE BAND-AID AND THE HUMAN GOES IN THERE. DON'T CHASE HIM.
>> WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? >> THEN YOU TEACH THEM TO YIELD TO PRESSURE. SO, YOU STOP THE FORWARD
MOVEMENT, TEACH THEM THAT IF THEY MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS YOU, THE PRESSURE GOES AWAY. AND THEN FROM THERE YOU GET TO
WHERE YOU CAN TOUCH THEM, YOU GET TO WHERE YOU CAN PET THEM, INTRODUCE A HALTER, GET THEM HALTER BROKE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT TRUST. LIKE, THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY GIVE UP THEIR RIGHT OF FLIGHT TO STAY WITH YOU, THERE'S SOME
TRUST THERE. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HORSES OR THE INMATES? >> THE HORSES.
WE ARE IN THE PEOPLE BUSINESS AND HELPING THE HORSES IS EXTRA. BUT THE GUYS REALLY LEARN A LOT OF LIFE LESSONS FROM THE HORSES.
THEY LEARN TO TRY, THEY LEARN TO NOT LIE TO THEMSELVES ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS, THEY LEARN TO CONTROL WHETHER IT'S THE HIGHEST
OF HIGH EMOTIONS OR THE LOWEST OF LOW EMOTIONS. >> NO ONE HERE "BREAKS" A HORSE. THE METHOD USED AT THE FARM IS
CALLED "GENTLING." FORCE IS REPLACED BY PATIENCE, PERSISTENCE, AND AN EVEN KEEL. IN ANY PEN ON ANY DAY, YOU CAN
SEE IT PLAY OUT. A BALLET IN DUSTY BOOTS. A DELICATE DANCE OF INCHES, REPEATED A HUNDRED TIMES OVER,
DAYS IN THE MAKING FOR THIS -- THE FIRST HUMAN TOUCH. NEXT DOOR, A MUSTANG IN FULL GALLOP, A RUNAWAY TRAIN, YIELDS
AND STOPS ON COMMAND. >> THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. YOU GOT A GOOD WIN.
>> WE'RE WATCHING ALL THESE THINGS, STEP BY STEP BY STEP. BUT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
>> NO. SOMETIMES IT'LL TAKE FOUR WEEKS. SOMETIMES IT'LL TAKE FOUR MONTHS TO DO THESE STEPS.
AND A WILD HORSE TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER SOMETIMES. >> MICHAEL DAVIS HAS BEEN RIDING HORSES HIS WHOLE LIFE.
HE'S SERVING 15 TO 20 YEARS FOR VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. HE'S ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE IN A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.
>> IF YOU'RE MAD, IF YOU'RE SCARED, THAT HORSE KNOWS BEFORE YOU EVER EVEN TOUCH IT. HOW THEY KNOW, I DON'T.
YOU HAVE TO CONTROL YOUR FEELINGS CONSIDERABLY WITH THE HORSE BECAUSE IT IS SO EASY FOR THEM TO PICK UP ON YOUR MOOD.
>> SO YOU'RE GOOD AT CONTROLLING YOUR FEELINGS WITH THE HORSE. BUT WITH PEOPLE, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> NOT REAL GREAT. >> YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT? >> I HAVE MY MOMENTS. I'M STILL WORKING ON IT.
BUT WE'RE GETTING BETTER. >> DAVIS IS AN OLD COWBOY, AND ONE OF ONLY A FEW INMATES HERE WHO CAN HANDLE THIS -- THIS
HORSE HAS NEVER HAD A MAN ON ITS BACK, UNTIL NOW. A REMARKABLE SKILL THAT CAN'T BE ACQUIRED WITHOUT A FEW SCARS.
>> I'VE GOT BROKEN ANKLE, A SEPARATED SHOULDER, A BROKEN COLLARBONE, STITCHES IN MY HEAD, BROKEN HAND.
FINGERS, LOTS OF FINGERS. >> WHAT HAS THE PROGRAM TAUGHT YOU? WHAT'S IT MEANT TO YOU?
>> A LITTLE PIECE OF FREEDOM. I MEAN, I'M WEARING BOOTS AND JEANS INSTEAD OF HOSPITAL SCRUBS.
AND, I MEAN, IT'S HOT OUT HERE, BUT IT'S A GOOD HOT. IT'S AS CLOSE TO BEING OUTSIDE AS I CAN UNTIL I GET OUTSIDE.
>> OUT HERE, IT IS EASY TO FORGET THIS IS A PRISON WITH 300 INMATES UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYE OF WARDEN MOFFAT.
>> PEOPLE AT HOME WILL SAY, LIKE, THESE GUYS ARE FELONS, THEY'VE DONE TERRIBLE THINGS. COMMITTED AWFUL CRIMES, RUINED
FAMILIES. WHY SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO BE OUT HERE, TO BE TRUSTED TO BE WORKING WITH THESE HORSES?
>> WE DON'T PROVIDE THE SENTENCE TO THEM. WE DON'T PROVIDE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THEM.
THE JUDGE DECIDED ALL OF THAT. OUR JOB IS TO SUPERVISE THEM WHILE THEY'RE IN HERE. AND HOPEFULLY RETURN THEM TO
SOCIETY WHERE THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS, WHERE THEY CAN BE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.
I THINK THIS PROGRAM GOES A LONG WAY TO DO THAT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT, AND WE CAN BELIEVE THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO RE-OFFEND. >> YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE, RIGHT,
THAT THE HORSES AREN'T RETURNED, AND THE INMATES DON'T RETURN? IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? >> RIGHT.
>> IN WYOMING, THE RECIDIVISM RATE IS BELOW 30%, AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT THAT 4-FOOT CATTLE FENCE, WELL, THE WARDEN
SAYS IN THE LAST 22 YEARS, FEWER THAN TEN INMATES HAVE MADE A RUN FOR IT. >> COME BACK DOWN TO A WALK.
>> STAYING ON THE RIGHT OF THE FENCE IS NOT LOST ON PEYTONN SUCHOR, AN INMATE SERVING SEVEN TO TEN YEARS FOR
AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. HE TRANSFERRED FROM A MAXIMUM-SECURITY PRISON A YEAR AGO AND CAME HERE WITH NO
EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH HORSES. >> WHAT'S IT LIKE TO STEP INTO A PEN THE FIRST TIME WITH A WILD 800-POUND HORSE?
>> ADRENALINE, HEART-POUNDING EXCITEMENT. BUT I WAS EXCITED TO DO IT BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET A HORSE TO
GO THE DIRECTION YOU WANT AND THEN COME JOIN UP TO YOU AND YOU TURN AROUND AND HE'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S LIKE WOW.
THIS ANIMAL, THIS CONNECTION, THIS FEELING. I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT. >> WHAT HAS THIS TAUGHT YOU
ABOUT YOURSELF? >> IT'S TAUGHT ME RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S TAUGHT ME WHAT I WANNA DO
FOR A CAREER WHEN I GET OUTTA HERE. THIS MAKES YOU LOOK AT LIFE A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY.
>> AND SUCHOR'S PATIENCE AND FEEL ARE PAYING OFF. AT AUCTION, A GELDING LIKE THIS ONE COULD SELL FOR THOUSANDS --
BUT IT'S NOT WITHOUT A LITTLE HEARTACHE. >> IS IT HARD TO SEE THEM GO? >> IT IS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS JUST FOR US, WE'RE DOING IT FOR THEM, TOO. IT'S A SECOND CHANCE FOR THEM AS
WELL. >> HAVE YOU RIDDEN HIM WITHOUT A TIE-DOWN? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> THIS SEPTEMBER, THE HONOR FARM HELD ITS SECOND AUCTION OF THE YEAR. HUNDREDS OF BUYERS CAME TO THE
PRISON FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO INSPECT THESE HORSES AND QUERY THEIR TRAINERS -- A LITTLE LIKE KICKING THE TIRES ON A CAR
LOT. THEN, EACH MUSTANG TAKES THE MAIN STAGE, TROTTING AND LOPING -- SOLD TO THE HIGHEST
BIDDER. IN ALL, 34 HORSES FETCHED $65,000 FOR THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, AN ACHIEVEMENT
ALMOST AS GOOD AS THE LOOK IN THE INMATES' FACES. BUT REMEMBER MICHAEL DAVIS, THE OLD COWBOY WHO COULDN'T BE
BUCKED? WE NOTICED HE WASN'T AT THE AUCTION. THE WARDEN TOLD US HE WAS
SUSPENDED FOR NOT GETTING ALONG WITH OTHERS. GENTLING A HORSE AND REHABILITATING THE MAN DON'T
ALWAYS HAPPEN ON THE SAME CLOCK. BY HIGH NOON, EVERY MUSTANG HAD A NEW HOME AND FOR THIS WILD BUNCH, GENTLING HAS ITS VIRTUES.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. IF YOU WERE A BETTING MAN, WOULD YOU BET A PSYCHOLOGIST IS
QUICKER TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF MAN, A DOCTOR, A THERAPIST, OR A HORSE? >> I THINK A HORSE.
100%. AND THAT'S JUST PURELY TRAVIS SHOOPMAN TALKING, BUT THE HORSES ARE A MAJOR ROLE IN WHAT BETTERS
THOSE MEN. THEY CAN TEACH YOU LIFE LESSONS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. TEACH YOU THAT YOU GOT SOMETHING
IN YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD. THEY CAN TEACH YOU THAT IT'S OKAY TO BE AFRAID, BUT IT CAN
STILL BE DONE. NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE. THERE'S SO MANY LIFE LESSONS.
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>>> NOW AN UPDATE ON A STORY WE FIRST REPORTED IN MARCH, 2021, ON NASA'S PLANS TO GO "BACK TO THE MOON."
AFTER MONTHS OF DELAYS THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, ARTEMIS 1, NASA'S NEW MOON ROCKET, CARRIED AN UNMANNED ORION CREW CAPSULE, ROSE INTO
FLORIDA'S NIGHT SKY. ONE CHANGE FROM THE APOLLO DAYS OF THE 1970s, IS THAT ARTEMIS IS BEING LED LARGELY BY WOMEN.
LAUNCH DIRECTOR CHARLIE BLACKWELL-THOMPSON TOLD US NASA PLANS ITS NEXT MOON LAUNCH -- ARTEMIS II IN 2024, THIS TIME
WITH A CREW ON BOARD, FOLLOWED BY ARTEMIS III. >> WHERE, THEN, WE WILL GO TO THE SURFACE OF THE MOON.
>> DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF, AND HOW COOL THAT SOUNDS? >> IT DOES SOUND PRETTY COOL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MINUTES."