1 00:00:00,133 --> 00:00:00,233 and FORD. 2 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:19,853 We go further, so you can. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH, BUT IT IS MY CHRISTIAN VALUES TO TELL 3 00:00:19,919 --> 00:00:27,627 THE TRUTH AND I- AND I WILL. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD. IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. 4 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:35,335 >> BUT MANY WISCONSIN REPUBLICANS CAN'T SEEM TO GET PAST 2020. THIS WAS LAST MONTH IN THE STATE 5 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:41,641 CAPITOL, AS G.O.P. LEGISLATORS WERE URGED TO KEEP QUESTIONING THE PRESIDENTIAL VOTE. A THIRD INVESTIGATION OF 6 00:00:41,708 --> 00:00:48,081 WISCONSIN'S ELECTION REMAINS UNDERWAY. >> IN WISCONSIN, YOU WILL NO LONGER CHEAT, YOU WILL NO LONGER 7 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:54,053 STEAL, AND YOU WILL NO LONGER COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD. ( TICKING ) >> THE YEAS ARE 69. 8 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:02,762 THE NAYS ARE 30. >> THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, PASSED LAST YEAR, WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT 9 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:07,934 IN AMERICA'S BRIDGES, ROADS AND RAILS IN MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY, AND AS EVERYONE WATCHING THIS WELL KNOWS, IT'S 10 00:01:08,001 --> 00:01:14,641 BADLY NEEDED. HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT A COUNTRY LIKE THE UNITED STATES GETS A "C-" ON INFRASTRUCTURE? 11 00:01:14,707 --> 00:01:18,445 >> FOR A LONG TIME, EVERYBODY HERE IN WASHINGTON SAID,“ WE GOT TO DO THIS," OR“ WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.” 12 00:01:18,511 --> 00:01:23,883 IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE UP FOR. ( TICKING ) 13 00:01:23,950 --> 00:01:27,921 >> KNOCK-A-DOODLE-DOO. >> AH, GOOD MORNING COACH LASSO. >> BOY, THAT'S A HEAPING SPOONFUL OF TRUTH SOUP RIGHT 14 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:32,091 THERE. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGACY OF "TED LASSO" IS, DECADES FROM NOW? 15 00:01:32,158 --> 00:01:37,597 >> I HOPE FOLKS KEEP WATCHING IT. HEY, HIGGINS. IT'S A DECENT CHANCE IT'LL PAY 16 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:41,801 FOR MY KIDS' COLLEGE. ( LAUGHS ) UNLESS I-- UNLESS I BLOW IT ALL. >> YOU DON'T THINK IT'S ALREADY 17 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:46,139 DONE THAT? >> YOU DON'T THINK I'VE ALREADY BLOWN IT? ( LAUGHTER ) 18 00:01:46,206 --> 00:01:51,044 ( TICKING ) >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 19 00:01:51,110 --> 00:01:55,949 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M NORAH O'DONNELL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. 20 00:01:56,015 --> 00:02:02,922 THOSE STORIES, TONIGHT, ON "60 MINUTES." BUT FIRST, CHARLIE D'AGATA WITH THE LATEST FROM UKRAINE THIS 21 00:02:02,989 --> 00:02:18,905 EVENING. ( TICKING ) DRAMATIC ATTACK NOT FAR FROM THE POLISH BORDER. 22 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:25,678 AT LEAST 35 PEOPLE DILLED AFTER RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT FIRED MISSILES. IT'S THE FIRST ATTACK TO TAKE 23 00:02:25,745 --> 00:02:33,453 PLACE THAL FAR WEST AND REFLECTS HOW THE RUSSIAN ONSLAUGHT EXPANDED IN INTENSITY AND REACH. 24 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:42,662 >> THE NORTHERN CITY ALSO COME UNDER ANOTHER NIGHT OF HEAVY BOMBARDMENT. RUSSIAN FORCES CLOSE IN ON THE 25 00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:50,403 CAPITAL, BUT CITY'S NORTHWEST OF KYIV HAVE BEEN BATTERED BY RUSSIAN ARTILLERY SENDING RESIDENTS FLEEING FOR THEIR 26 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:56,643 LIVES. >> YOU SEE WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO FOR THE PEOPLE WITHOUT VEHICLES WHO FLED THE VILLAGES 27 00:02:56,709 --> 00:03:05,318 IN THE BACK OF CARGO TRUCKS BEING HANDED WARM DRINKS, WATERED AND SOMETHING TO EAT. AT LEAST THEIR SAFE FOR NOW. 28 00:03:05,385 --> 00:03:14,727 >> COVERING THE BATTLE UNDERWAY IN IRPIN COST A JOURNALIST HIS LIFE. HE WAS SHOT DEAD WHEN RUSSIAN 29 00:03:14,794 --> 00:03:26,873 TROOPS OPENED FIRE ON HIS CAR. >> IN A BID TO BOOST MORALE, UKRANIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SENT FOR SOLDIERS TO THANK 30 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:33,246 THEM FOR SERVICE. TONIGHT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS FACE SHELLING, SUBFREEZING TEMPERATURES 31 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:42,488 WITHOUT FOOD, WATER, ELECTRICITY OR A SAFE WAY OUT. FOR 60 MINUTES. 32 00:03:46,859 --> 00:03:54,801 >> Bill Whitaker: THE PRIMARY SEASON IS ALREADY UNDERWAY FOR THIS FALL'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS. AND ACCORDING TO A CBS NEWS 33 00:03:54,867 --> 00:04:01,074 POLL, 61% OF VOTERS SAY THEY WANT POLITICIANS TO ADDRESS THE VOTING PROCESS. FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP 34 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:10,650 INSISTS VOTER FRAUD COST HIM RE-ELECTION, DESPITE HAVING LOST MORE THAN 60 LAWSUITS CHALLENGING THE PROCESS. 35 00:04:10,717 --> 00:04:17,357 NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE JOE BIDEN'S VICTORY WAS ILLEGITIMATE. AND REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED 36 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:25,064 LEGISLATURES IN BATTLEGROUND STATES, INCLUDING ARIZONA, FLORIDA, AND GEORGIA, HAVE REWRITTEN ELECTION LAWS. 37 00:04:25,131 --> 00:04:30,870 REPUBLICANS SAY IT'S IN ORDER TO MAKE VOTING MORE SECURE. DEMOCRATS SAY IT'S TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR THEIR TRADITIONAL 38 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:38,878 BASE TO CAST BALLOTS. PERHAPS NO STATE IS MORE CONTENTIOUS THAN WISCONSIN, WHICH JOE BIDEN WON BY LESS THAN 39 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:48,955 ONE PERCENT OF THE VOTE, AND WHERE A BATTLE IS RAGING OVER VOTING RIGHTS AND WRONGS. WAS THE 2020 VOTE IN WISCONSIN 40 00:04:49,022 --> 00:04:54,861 CLEAN AND FAIR? >> Senator Kathy Bernier: YES. >> Whitaker: THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN FROM DONALD TRUMP? 41 00:04:54,927 --> 00:05:01,501 >> Bernier: NO. THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN FROM DONALD TRUMP. >> Whitaker: KATHY BERNIER IS A 42 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:07,340 WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR. SHE TOLD US WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD IS ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE IN 43 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:13,246 WISCONSIN. HOW IS IT THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT WITH SUCH CERTAINTY, AND SUCH CONVICTION? 44 00:05:13,312 --> 00:05:19,686 >> Bernier: BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROCESS. >> Whitaker: A DIEHARD CONSERVATIVE, BERNIER BEGAN HER 45 00:05:19,752 --> 00:05:26,926 POLITICAL CAREER OVERSEEING ELECTIONS AS CLERK IN CHIPPEWA COUNTY TODAY, SHE CHAIRS THE STATE 46 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:34,567 SENATE COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND CALLS THE TALK OF VOTER FRAUD A CHARADE THAT WILL HURT REPUBLICANS AT THE POLLS. 47 00:05:34,634 --> 00:05:42,075 >> Bernier: IF THERE IS MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD, WHY WASN'T IT PROVEN IN GEORGIA AFTER THREE RECOUNTS? 48 00:05:42,141 --> 00:05:50,717 WHY WASN'T IT PROVEN IN ARIZONA AFTER THE FORENSIC AUDITS? AND WHY WASN'T IT PROVEN HERE? BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE PROVED. 49 00:05:50,783 --> 00:05:55,054 >> Whitaker: YOU SUPPORTED DONALD TRUMP? >> Bernier: I VOTED FOR HIM TWICE. 50 00:05:55,121 --> 00:06:05,331 >> Whitaker: BUT NOW I HEAR YOU SAYING ALMOST THE EXACT OPPOSITE FROM WHAT FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS, AND HIS 51 00:06:05,398 --> 00:06:11,104 SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING NOW. >> Bernier: I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. 52 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:19,011 BUT IS IT MY CHRISTIAN VALUES TO TELL THE TRUTH AND I-- AND I WILL. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF VOTER 53 00:06:19,078 --> 00:06:25,752 FRAUD. IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. >> Whitaker: BUT WISCONSIN REPUBLICANS CAN'T SEEM TO GET 54 00:06:25,818 --> 00:06:34,026 PAST 2020. THIS WAS LAST MONTH IN THE STATE CAPITOL. REPUBLICANS FROM ALL OVER THE 55 00:06:34,093 --> 00:06:41,834 STATE URGED G.O.P. LEGISLATORS TO STAND FIRM. RALLY ORGANIZER, JEFFERSON DAVIS, THE FORMER VILLAGE 56 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:47,440 PRESIDENT OF MENOMONEE FALLS, HAD A MESSAGE FOR DEMOCRATS. >> Jefferson Davis: IN WISCONSIN, YOU WILL NO LONGER 57 00:06:47,507 --> 00:06:54,347 CHEAT, YOU WILL NO LONGER STEAL, AND YOU WILL NO LONGER COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD. >> Whitaker: REPUBLICANS 58 00:06:54,413 --> 00:07:01,320 DOMINATE BOTH CHAMBERS OF THE WISCONSIN LEGISLATURE, AND MOST WON ON THE SAME 2020 BALLOT THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOW 59 00:07:01,387 --> 00:07:10,596 CONTESTS. REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HOPING TO UNSEAT GOVERNOR TONY EVERS, A DEMOCRAT, EITHER DENY PRESIDENT 60 00:07:10,663 --> 00:07:17,503 JOE BIDEN WON THE ELECTION, WON'T SAY, OR QUESTION THE PROCESS. FOUR G.O.P. POLITICIANS ARE 61 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:25,311 ANGLING TO OUST THIS MAN, DEMOCRAT DOUG LA FOLLETTE, WISCONSIN'S SECRETARY OF STATE. OVER HIS 44 YEARS IN OFFICE 62 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:33,319 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES HAVE CUT HIS BUDGET, REDUCED HIS DUTIES AND MOVED HIS OFFICE TO THE CAPITOL BASEMENT WHERE HE SPENDS 63 00:07:33,386 --> 00:07:37,323 HIS DAYS CERTIFYING DOCUMENTS. >> Doug La Follette: SO WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO BE SECRETARY OF STATE? 64 00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:47,066 >> Whitaker: SO WHAT'S GOING ON? >> La Follette: GIVEN THE WHOLE TRUMP ELECTION PHENOMENON, THERE IS AN EFFORT TO GET MORE CONTROL 65 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:53,039 OF ELECTIONS IN KEY STATES, AND WISCONSIN IS A KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE. >> Whitaker: AND REPUBLICANS 66 00:07:53,105 --> 00:07:59,078 RUNNING TO UNSEAT HIM DO WANT TO EMPOWER THE OFFICE TO OVERSEE ELECTIONS. >> La Follette: AND IT'S GOING 67 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:05,017 ON ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE TRUMP CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE IN MANY PLACES TRYING TO 68 00:08:05,084 --> 00:08:11,257 ACCOMPLISH SIMILAR THINGS. >> Whitaker: WE REACHED OUT TO TOP REPUBLICAN LEADERS, AND ALL EITHER DECLINED OUR REQUEST FOR 69 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:17,697 AN INTERVIEW, OR WOULDN'T RESPOND. >> Robin Vos: EVERY SINGLE PROCESS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT 70 00:08:17,763 --> 00:08:25,371 IT IS, CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED. >> Whitaker: REPUBLICAN ROBIN VOS, THE POWERFUL SPEAKER OF THE ASSEMBLY, TOLD WISCONSIN PUBLIC 71 00:08:25,438 --> 00:08:31,811 RADIO HALF THE STATE OR MORE BELIEVES THERE WERE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE 2020 ELECTION. HE ORDERED AN INVESTIGATION, 72 00:08:31,878 --> 00:08:39,151 THE THIRD BY THE LEGISLATURE, TO CHECK FOR FLAWS IN THE ELECTION AND PROPOSE LEGISLATIVE FIXES. 73 00:08:39,218 --> 00:08:45,992 >> Vos: WHOEVER WINS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SHOULD THINK IT WAS DONE FAIR AND SQUARE. >> Whitaker: THIS PAST JUNE HE 74 00:08:46,058 --> 00:08:51,397 APPOINTED FORMER WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, AND FORMER DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF OUTREACH, DIVERSITY AND 75 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:59,138 INCLUSION IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, MICHAEL GABLEMAN TO HEAD UP THE INVESTIGATION. >> Michael Gableman: IN THAT 76 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:07,213 CAPACITY I WORK DIRECTLY FOR YOU, THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN. >> Whitaker: AFTER BEING TAPPED FOR THE JOB, GABLEMAN TOLD THE 77 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:13,452 "MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL," LIKE MOST PEOPLE HE DIDN'T HAV“" A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OR EVEN ANY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW 78 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:22,428 ELECTIONS WORK.” YET RIGHT AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION, HE TOLD A TRUMP CROWD THEIR VOTES HAD BEEN STOLEN. 79 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:30,970 >> Gableman: I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE CAN THINK OF ANYTHING MORE SYSTEMATICALLY UNJUST THAN A STOLEN ELECTION. 80 00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:39,211 >> Whitaker: ASSEMBLY SPEAKER ROBIN VOS ANNOUNCED THE GABLEMAN INVESTIGATION LAST JUNE, JUST HOURS AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT 81 00:09:39,278 --> 00:09:47,520 DONALD TRUMP ACCUSED THE SPEAKER OF “WORKING HARD TO COVER UP ELECTION CORRUPTION” IN 2020. NOT LONG AFTERWARD, VOS FLEW TO 82 00:09:47,586 --> 00:09:55,194 A TRUMP RALLY WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND ASSURED HIM OF A TOP-TO-BOTTOM INVESTIGATION BY MICHAEL GABLEMAN. 83 00:09:55,261 --> 00:10:05,938 GABLEMAN, WHO ALSO IGNORED OUR REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW, DRAWS A SALARY OF $11,000 A MONTH. HE'S MADE LITTLE ATTEMPT TO BE 84 00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:11,210 TRANSPARENT OR BIPARTISAN. HE REVEALED HIS STAFF ONLY UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE PRESS AND DEMOCRATS; SOME WERE FOUND TO 85 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:19,218 HAVE WORKED IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OR WITH STOP THE STEAL EFFORTS. HIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN SO 86 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:25,458 SECRETIVE A JUDGE RULED IT VIOLATED WISCONSIN'S PUBLIC RECORDS LAW. THIS MONTH, GABLEMAN RELEASED 87 00:10:25,524 --> 00:10:35,234 HIS INTERIM REPORT, LIVE ON CABLE TV FROM THE STATE CAPITOL. >> Gableman: I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE OUGHT TO TAKE A VERY 88 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:43,209 HARD LOOK AT THE OPTION OF DECERTIFICATION OF THE 2020 WISCONSIN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. >> Whitaker: THE LEGISLATURE'S 89 00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:51,217 OWN STAFF ATTORNEYS SAY THERE'S NO LEGAL WAY TO DECERTIFY THE ELECTION. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS FOUND ABOUT 90 00:10:51,283 --> 00:10:58,224 TWO DOZEN PEOPLE WERE CHARGED WITH VOTER FRAUD IN WISCONSIN IN 2020 OUT OF MORE THAN 3 MILLION VOTES CAST. 91 00:10:58,290 --> 00:11:04,930 BUT MICHAEL GABLEMAN SAYS HE BELIEVES THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS FLAWED. HE POINTS TO GRANTS FROM A 92 00:11:04,997 --> 00:11:11,270 NONPROFIT FUNDED BY MARK ZUCKERBERG, TO HELP MUNICIPALITIES RUN SAFE ELECTIONS IN THE PANDEMIC. 93 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:19,378 ABOUT 2,500 COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, BOTH RED AND BLUE, RECEIVED FUNDS, INCLUDING 217 IN WISCONSIN THAT GOT ABOUT 94 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:30,122 $10 MILLION. BUT GABLEMAN FOCUSED ON WHAT HE CALLS THE ZUCKERBERG FIVE. >> Gableman: THE FIVE LARGEST 95 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:35,327 RECIPIENTS WERE THE FIVE LARGEST DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CITIES IN THE STATE. >> Whitaker: HE CALLED GRANTS TO 96 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:42,735 THE STATE'S FIVE LARGEST CITIES BRIBES TO BOOST VOTES FOR DEMOCRATS AND QUOTED THEIR GRANT APPLICATION. 97 00:11:42,802 --> 00:11:51,277 >> Gableman: WITH PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON REACHING VOTERS OF COLOR, LOW INCOME VOTERS WITHOUT RELIABLE ACCESS TO INTERNET, 98 00:11:51,343 --> 00:11:58,184 DISABILITIES AND PRIMARY LANGUAGE IS NOT ENGLISH. >> Whitaker: HE FOUND THAT LANGUAGE DAMNING; BUT A FEDERAL 99 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:06,025 JUDGE APPOINTED BY GEORGE W. BUSH FOUND NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THE GRANTS. MICHAEL GABLEMAN BLAMES WHAT HE 100 00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:11,330 CALLS A BOTCHED ELECTION ON THE BIPARTISAN WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION, WHICH WAS CREATED SEVERAL YEARS AGO BY REPUBLICANS 101 00:12:11,397 --> 00:12:19,338 IN THE LEGISLATURE. HE ESPECIALLY TARGETS ITS ADMINISTRATOR, MEAGAN WOLFE. >> Meagan Wolfe: MY POSITION IS 102 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:23,075 NONPARTISAN AS IS ALL OF THE STAFF AT THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION. >> Whitaker: WHAT DOES THAT 103 00:12:23,142 --> 00:12:31,050 ACTUALLY MEAN? >> Wolfe: TO ME, IT MEANS THAT I DON'T GIVE ANY DEFERENCE TO POLITICAL PRESSURE, SO PEOPLE 104 00:12:31,117 --> 00:12:39,291 TRYING TO SWAY US TO IMPLEMENT ELECTIONS IN A WAY THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO ONE PARTY, OR ONE CANDIDATE, OR THE OTHER. 105 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:44,029 >> Whitaker: MEAGAN WOLFE WAS UNANIMOUSLY CONFIRMED FOR THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION BY THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED 106 00:12:44,096 --> 00:12:51,337 STATE SENATE ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO. IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, SHE WAS SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT OF THE 107 00:12:51,403 --> 00:12:58,477 NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE ELECTION DIRECTORS. >> Wolfe: WHEN WE SAY THAT THE ELECTION IN WISCONSIN WAS FREE 108 00:12:58,544 --> 00:13:07,419 AND FAIR, WE'RE NOT GUESSING. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AUDITED THE ELECTION. WE HAVE RECOUNTED THE ELECTION. 109 00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:12,925 WE HAVE CANVASSED THE ELECTION. THERE HAVE BEEN COURT DECISIONS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THE ELECTION AND AFFIRMED THE RESULT. 110 00:13:12,992 --> 00:13:19,765 >> Whitaker: WHY ARE PEOPLE SUSPICIOUS OF THE OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION? >> Wolfe: I'M NOT REALLY SURE, 111 00:13:19,832 --> 00:13:24,837 OTHER THAN IT FEELS LIKE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT ANSWER TO SUPPORT A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. 112 00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:29,775 >> Whitaker: A DIFFERENT OUTCOME TO THE ELECTION RESULTS? >> Wolfe: YES. >> Whitaker: WHERE IS THAT 113 00:13:29,842 --> 00:13:34,813 COMING FROM? >> Wolfe: PEOPLE'S FREEDOM TO VOTE IS A SACRED RIGHT. AND THEY TAKE THAT VERY 114 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:41,854 SERIOUSLY. BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT I THINK ARE TRYING TO WEAPONIZE MISINFORMATION TO 115 00:13:41,921 --> 00:13:47,393 MISLEAD PEOPLE FOR A PARTISAN PURPOSE. >> Whitaker: BY HER ACCOUNT, MICHAEL GABLEMAN IS REVISING 116 00:13:47,459 --> 00:13:55,434 HISTORY, MAKING EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES THEY HAD TO TAKE TO RUN A SAFE ELECTION IN A DEADLY PANDEMIC SEEM SINISTER. 117 00:13:55,501 --> 00:14:03,475 THIS WAS THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN APRIL 2020: LONG LINES, SCARED, COLD, FRUSTRATED VOTERS. 118 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:09,949 THREE WEEKS EARLIER, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD DECLARED A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. ON ELECTION DAY, ASSEMBLY 119 00:14:10,015 --> 00:14:15,487 SPEAKER VOS, IN PROTECTIVE GEAR, TOLD VOTERS THERE WAS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. >> Vos: IT'S GOING SMOOTHLY, 120 00:14:15,554 --> 00:14:19,558 SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FINE IN ALMOST EVERY PART OF WISCONSIN SO I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. 121 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:23,996 >> Whitaker: WITH ALL THE UNCERTAINTY... >> I WILL CALL THE MEETING OF THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS 122 00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:31,470 COMMISSION TO ORDER. >> Whitaker: ...THE BIPARTISAN ELECTIONS COMMISSION HAD TO MAKE SNAP DECISIONS, REINTERPRET 123 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:39,478 ELECTION LAWS TO FIT UNPRECEDENTED CIRCUMSTANCES, ALL DONE TRANSPARENTLY IN PUBLIC ZOOM MEETINGS. 124 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:46,919 THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION GAVE COMMUNITIES GUIDANCE ON ABSENTEE BALLOTS, WHICH SHOT UP FROM 4% TO 40% OF ALL VOTES. 125 00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:53,926 THEY ENDORSED EXPANDED USE OF DROP BOXES. INSTEAD OF HOLDING ON-SITE VOTING AT NURSING HOMES, WHICH 126 00:14:53,993 --> 00:14:59,465 WERE COVID HOT SPOTS AT THE TIME, THE COMMITTEE ORDERED ELECTION CLERKS TO MAIL BALLOTS TO RESIDENTS WHO'D REQUESTED 127 00:14:59,531 --> 00:15:07,139 THEM. IN HIS REPORT, MICHAEL GABLEMAN CLAIMS ALL THOSE DECISIONS WERE ILLEGAL. 128 00:15:07,206 --> 00:15:11,543 YOU WERE THE FIRST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PANDEMIC. 129 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:18,884 >> Wolfe: WE WERE. I STILL GET GOOSEBUMPS WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN ALL 1,850 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS OUR 130 00:15:18,951 --> 00:15:24,723 STATE THEY WERE ABLE TO OPEN THEIR POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE POLL WORKERS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE SUPPLIES. 131 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:30,162 AND THEY WERE RISKING THEIR HEALTH. >> Gableman: LET'S TALK ABOUT COVER-UPS. 132 00:15:30,229 --> 00:15:37,569 >> Whitaker: NEVERTHELESS, MICHAEL GABLEMAN ACCUSES THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION OF STEALING CITIZENS' VOTES. 133 00:15:37,636 --> 00:15:43,876 23 G.O.P. LEGISLATORS ARE CALLING FOR MEAGAN WOLFE AND ELECTIONS COMMISSIONERS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND POSSIBLY 134 00:15:43,942 --> 00:15:52,951 PROSECUTED FOR CRIMINAL CONDUCT. GABLEMAN PROPOSES ELIMINATING THE BIPARTISAN COMMISSION ALTOGETHER AND GIVING ITS DUTIES 135 00:15:53,018 --> 00:16:01,627 TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHO HE SAYS WOULD BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO VOTERS. THIS PAST WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE 136 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:09,935 EXTENDED GABLEMAN'S CONTRACT. HIS INVESTIGATION WILL CONTINUE AT LEAST THROUGH APRIL. IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS THAT A-- 137 00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:15,607 CREDIBLE INVESTIGATION? >> Bernier: NO. >> Whitaker: JUST FLAT OUT NO? >> Bernier: NO. 138 00:16:15,674 --> 00:16:23,882 WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS UP. WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND WE NEED TO ELECT REPUBLICANS IN 2022. >> Whitaker: REPUBLICAN STATE 139 00:16:23,949 --> 00:16:29,588 SENATOR KATHY BERNIER PLANS TO RETIRE WHEN HER TERM IS UP IN JANUARY. SHE WON'T BE RUNNING IN 2022, 140 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:37,896 BUT SHE SAYS THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. >> Bernier: DONALD TRUMP IS STILL THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN 141 00:16:37,963 --> 00:16:49,274 PARTY AS I SEE IT. HE IS LIKELY GOING TO RUN IN 2024. HE HAS A LOT OF POWER, AND A LOT 142 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:55,647 OF INFLUENCE, AND I RESPECT THAT. SO I DON'T HAPPEN TO CARE ABOUT THAT. 143 00:16:55,714 --> 00:17:01,954 >> Whitaker: WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT? >> Bernier: THAT WE LEAVE THIS COUNTRY BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT 144 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:11,063 WAS IN THE PAST. WE'RE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST POLITICS 145 00:17:11,130 --> 00:17:18,370 TO ME, IT MATTERS. ( TICKING ) 146 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:25,144 >> Anderson Cooper: THREE YEARS AGO, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, A CITY WITH ONLY ABOUT 160 147 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:32,284 TRAFFIC LIGHTS. TODAY, “MAYOR PETE” IS“ SECRETARY PETE,” HEAD OF THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF 148 00:17:32,351 --> 00:17:39,324 TRANSPORTATION. THANKS TO THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW PASSED LAST YEAR, HE'S OVERSEEING ONE OF THE 149 00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:49,067 MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN AMERICA'S BRIDGES, ROADS AND RAILS IN MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY. 150 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:53,038 BUTTIGIEG IS 40-YEARS-OLD, A HARVARD GRADUATE, RHODES SCHOLAR, AND FORMER NAVY RESERVE OFFICER WHO RAN FOR THE 151 00:17:53,105 --> 00:17:59,578 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION IN 2020. NOW HE'S DEALING WITH A PANDEMIC-RELATED SUPPLY CHAIN 152 00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:08,187 CRISIS AND TRYING TO ENSURE THAT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE WELL-SPENT ON AGING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS IN 153 00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:16,495 DESPERATE NEED OF REPAIR. AT ABOUT 6:30 A.M. ON JANUARY 28, THIS BRIDGE IN PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, COLLAPSED WHILE A 154 00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:23,202 BUS AND SOME CARS WERE DRIVING ACROSS IT. NO ONE WAS KILLED, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE WERE INJURED. 155 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:27,773 FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY SAFETY INSPECTORS HADN'T WARNED THAT A COLLAPSE WAS IMMINENT. 156 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,711 WHEN SOMEBODY'S DRIVING OVER A BRIDGE, SHOULD THEY FEEL CONFIDENT? >> Pete Buttigeig: YEAH. 157 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:37,182 I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE. THERE'S INSPECTION STANDARDS THAT WE SET FEDERALLY. 158 00:18:37,249 --> 00:18:47,893 BUT-- BUT HERE'S THE ISSUE: IF A BRIDGE IS DETERIORATING, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO 159 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,697 KEEP IT SAFE IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE CLOSED. >> Cooper: 42% OF AMERICA'S BRIDGES ARE AT LEAST 50 YEARS 160 00:18:51,763 --> 00:18:57,536 OLD, AND MORE THAN 7% ARE CONSIDERED “STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT,” INCLUDING THIS ONE NOT FAR FROM SECRETARY PETE 161 00:18:57,603 --> 00:19:03,709 BUTTIGIEG'S OFFICE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SO, THIS DOES NOT LOOK GREAT. >> Buttigieg: I MEAN, LOOK AT 162 00:19:03,775 --> 00:19:08,714 IT, RIGHT? IT-- IT TELLS A STORY RIGHT THERE. WE'RE RIGHT BY, YOU KNOW, A 163 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:13,452 THRIVING ECONOMIC AREA IN THE NATION'S CAPITAL, AND YOU GOT LITERALLY BITS OF RUST COMING OFF-- PIPES AND THE UNDERSIDE OF 164 00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:17,189 OUR BRIDGE. USUALLY-- >> Cooper: THAT'S ACTUALLY FROM-- FROM THAT? 165 00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:21,193 >> Buttigieg: YEAH, I THINK SO. I THINK THAT USED TO BE THIS BRIDGE. >> Cooper: WHEN GRADING THE 166 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:27,466 OVERALL STATE OF THIS COUNTRY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS RECENTLY GAVE THE U.S. A “C-." 167 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:33,171 HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A COUNTRY LIKE THE UNITED STATES GETS A C- ON INFRASTRUCTURE? >> Buttigeig: WELL, YOU GET WHAT 168 00:19:33,238 --> 00:19:39,478 YOU PAY FOR. AND FOR PRETTY MUCH AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ALIVE, OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN UNDER-INVESTING IN PUBLIC 169 00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:45,284 THINGS. FOR A LONG TIME, EVERYBODY HERE IN WASHINGTON SAID, "WE GOT TO DO THIS," OR, "WE'RE GOING TO DO 170 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:51,957 THIS," IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED BUT WE-- WE GOT A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE UP FOR. >> Cooper: THE BIPARTISAN 171 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:57,863 INFRASTRUCTURE BILL SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT BIDEN IN NOVEMBER GUARANTEES AT LEAST $850 BILLION OF SPENDING OVER 172 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:07,005 THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THERE'S $55 BILLION TO HELP COMMUNITIES REMOVE LEAD PIPES AND DELIVER CLEAN DRINKING 173 00:20:07,072 --> 00:20:13,312 WATER, $65 BILLION TO EXPAND BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE AND MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE, AND ANOTHER $65 BILLION TO UPGRADE 174 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:21,186 THE NATION'S POWER GRID. MANY FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE INVOLVED, BUT PETE BUTTIGIEG'S DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 175 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:31,463 WILL BE THE LARGEST RECIPIENT OF FUNDS, DISTRIBUTING MORE THAN $560 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS TO IMPROVE EVERYTHING FROM TUNNELS, 176 00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:38,503 BRIDGES, AND ROADS TO MASS TRANSIT, PORTS, AND AIRPORTS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THE COUNTRY INVESTED THIS AMOUNT OF 177 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:44,710 MONEY IN INFRASTRUCTURE? >> Buttigeig: WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS AND BRIDGES, WE HAVEN'T INVESTED AT THIS LEVEL SINCE THE 178 00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:49,181 EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION, SINCE THEY BUILT THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. 179 00:20:49,247 --> 00:20:55,220 >> Cooper: WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO SEE DIFFERENT IN THEIR LIVES OR IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THIS INVESTMENT? 180 00:20:55,287 --> 00:21:00,192 >> Buttigeig: I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE IS ACCELERATED WORK ON ROADS AND BRIDGES. 181 00:21:00,258 --> 00:21:03,895 NOT JUST THE BIG, FAMOUS BRIDGES IN OUR BIGGEST CITIES. THIS IS THOUSANDS OF BRIDGES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 182 00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:12,871 >> Cooper: ONE OF THE MANY THINGS PENNSYLVANIA WILL DO WITH ITS INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY IS REBUILD THAT BRIDGE THAT 183 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:20,212 COLLAPSED IN PITTSBURGH AND WASHINGTON, D.C. PLANS TO FIX THE “H STREET” BRIDGE WE SAW NEAR UNION STATION. 184 00:21:20,278 --> 00:21:24,750 BUT IN MANY CASES, IT'S TOO EARLY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PROJECTS WILL BE FUNDED. THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THE MONEY 185 00:21:24,816 --> 00:21:31,423 WILL BE AWARDED BY BUTTIGIEG AND HIS STAFF TO COMMUNITIES THAT WILL COMPETE FOR DISCRETIONARY GRANTS. 186 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:37,262 BUT MORE MONEY IS BEING SENT DIRECTLY TO THE STATES, WHERE GOVERNORS AND LOCAL LEADERS WILL DECIDE HOW TO SPEND IT. 187 00:21:37,329 --> 00:21:43,602 IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES-- WHEN THEY GET MONEY, THEIR EMPHASIS IS ON BUILDING NEW ROADS. YOU'RE TRYING TO EMPHASIZE-- 188 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:48,407 FIXING EXISTING ROADS. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POPULAR-- >> Buttigeig: THERE'S ALWAYS A BIAS TOWARD THE SHINY, NEW 189 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:51,743 THING. BUT THE TRUTH IS, AS A COUNTRY, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT. 190 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:57,349 >> Cooper: IN EARLIER VERSIONS OF THE BILL THERE WERE PROVISIONS THAT WOULD'VE REQUIRED STATES TO DEDICATE 191 00:21:57,416 --> 00:22:02,487 MONEY TO REPAIRING FREEWAYS BEFORE BUILDING NEW ONES. THOSE PROVISIONS WERE TAKEN OUT. >> Buttigeig: THE REQUIREMENTS 192 00:22:02,554 --> 00:22:05,657 AREN'T THERE, BUT IT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO ENCOURAGE IT. >> Cooper: THERE'S RESEARCH 193 00:22:05,724 --> 00:22:11,630 SHOWING THAT HISTORICALLY MORE OF THE GRANT MONEY GOES TO STATES THAT VOTED FOR THE PARTY IN POWER. 194 00:22:11,697 --> 00:22:15,967 UNDER OBAMA UN-- IT WENT TO BLUE STATES, UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP IT WENT TO-- TO RED STATES. IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN? 195 00:22:16,034 --> 00:22:21,473 >> Buttigeig: WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON TAKING THOSE PARTY POLITICS OUT OF THE PICTURE. >> Cooper: BUT NO ADMINISTRATION 196 00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:25,310 SAYS, "YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING." BUT HISTORICALLY THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. 197 00:22:25,377 --> 00:22:29,715 >> Buttigeig: BUT LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING. SO, THIS LAST ROUND OF DISCRETIONARY GRANTS, FOR 198 00:22:29,781 --> 00:22:36,188 EXAMPLE, $1 BILLION THAT I HAD THE FINAL SIGN OFF ON. WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER THE CONGRESSIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR 199 00:22:36,254 --> 00:22:39,591 HOW MUCH GOES TO RURAL AREAS. RURAL AREAS AREN'T KNOWN FOR SUPPORTING MY POLITICAL PARTY. BUT THEY-- 200 00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:44,262 ( LAUGHS ) THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF NEED. AND SO, WE'RE FUNDING GOOD PROJECTS THERE. 201 00:22:44,329 --> 00:22:51,603 >> Cooper: MOODY'S ANALYTICS ESTIMATES THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW WILL CREATE 872,000 NEW JOBS BY LATE 2025. 202 00:22:51,670 --> 00:23:01,379 PROJECTS LONG ON THE DRAWING BOARD MAY FINALLY HAPPEN. FOR EXAMPLE: THE HUDSON RIVER TRAIN TUNNEL THAT RUNS BETWEEN 203 00:23:01,446 --> 00:23:05,684 NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY IS A CRUCIAL ARTERY THAT LOCAL LEADERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO UPGRADE FOR YEARS. 204 00:23:05,751 --> 00:23:09,387 >> Buttigieg: IT WAS ABSOLUTE STATE-OF-THE-ART, BEST- CONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY 110 YEARS AGO. 205 00:23:09,454 --> 00:23:12,824 ( LAUGHS ) >> Cooper: IN NINETEEN-- IN 1910. >> Buttigieg: YEAH. 206 00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:17,362 AND WE'RE GOING DEEP INTO THE 21st CENTURY STILL DEPENDING ON THAT HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD INFRASTRUCTURE. 207 00:23:17,429 --> 00:23:23,401 >> Cooper: THE TUNNELS SO BADLY DAMAGED CREWS HAVE TO WORK ON IT AT NIGHT SO PIECES OF IT DON'T FALL ON THE TRACKS DURING THE 208 00:23:23,468 --> 00:23:29,374 DAY. IF AN EXPECTED INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT COMES THROUGH, CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TUNNEL 209 00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:37,382 COULD FINALLY BEGIN NEXT YEAR. KENTUCKY GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR HAS SAID HE'D LIKE TO USE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY TO HELP 210 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:44,623 BUILD A COMPANION TO THE CONGESTED BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS KENTUCKY AND OHIO. AIRPORTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY 211 00:23:44,689 --> 00:23:51,663 WILL BE RECEIVING MONEY THIS YEAR TO UPGRADE THEIR RUNWAYS AND TERMINALS. L.A.X. WILL GET $79 MILLION, 212 00:23:51,730 --> 00:24:01,072 CHICAGO O'HARE $74 MILLION, AND ATLANTA'S INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT $92 MILLION. SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG PLANS TO USE 213 00:24:01,139 --> 00:24:07,646 SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY TO REVITALIZE LOW-INCOME BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE DIVIDED OR DAMAGED BY THE CONSTRUCTION 214 00:24:07,712 --> 00:24:15,754 OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS. BUT FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DE SANTIS HAS EXPRESSED SOME SKEPTICISM ABOUT THAT. 215 00:24:15,821 --> 00:24:20,392 >> Ron Desantis: I MEAN, I HEARD SOME STUFF, SOME WEIRD STUFF FROM THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TRYING TO MAKE 216 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:24,930 THIS ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES. TO ME, A ROAD IS A ROAD. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 217 00:24:24,996 --> 00:24:29,434 >> Cooper: IS A ROAD A ROAD? >> Buttigeig: OF COURSE A ROAD IS A ROAD. BUT IF A ROAD WAS BUILT IN SUCH 218 00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:34,906 A WAY THAT IT REMOVED, DESTROYED, OR DIVIDED A COMMUNITY OF COLOR, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO DEAL 219 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,809 WITH. >> Cooper: WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT IT? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO 220 00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:44,015 REROUTE A HIGHWAY. >> Buttigeig: WELL, YOU MIGHT. IF FEDERAL DOLLARS WERE USED TO DIVIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A CITY, 221 00:24:44,082 --> 00:24:47,953 FEDERAL DOLLARS SHOULD BE USED TO RECONNECT IT. NOW, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THE HIGHWAY HAS TO GO 222 00:24:48,019 --> 00:24:53,425 COMPLETELY. MAYBE YOU GOT TO BRIDGE OVER IT OR AROUND IT, OR INTRODUCE TRANSIT OR DIFFERENT OPTIONS. 223 00:24:53,491 --> 00:24:57,529 BUT THE POINT IS, TRANSPORTATION SHOULD ALWAYS CONNECT, NEVER DIVIDE. >> Kamala Harris: THE YEAS ARE 224 00:24:57,596 --> 00:25:02,067 69. THE NAYS ARE 30. >> Cooper: THE PASSAGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IN THE 225 00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:09,140 SENATE WAS THE RESULT OF SOME SERIOUS BRIDGE-BUILDING. FIVE REPUBLICAN AND FIVE DEMOCRATIC SENATORS NEGOTIATED 226 00:25:09,207 --> 00:25:15,814 THE DEAL AND CONVINCED THEIR COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, 200 REPUBLICANS AND SIX 227 00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:22,153 DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST THE LEGISLATION, BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP MANY OF THEM FROM LATER CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THE MONEY IT 228 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:33,131 GAVE TO THEIR DISTRICTS. WHEN YOU HEAR A MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS MONEY TURNING AROUND AND 229 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:37,602 TAKING CREDIT FOR THE MONEY THAT IS COMING TO THEIR DISTRICT-- >> Buttigeig: IT'S AN AMAZING THING, ISN'T IT? 230 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:43,708 AS IRRITATING AS THAT CAN BE, AS LONG AS THE PROJECT GETS DONE, AS LONG AS IT BENEFITS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THE 231 00:25:43,775 --> 00:25:48,013 POLITICS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Cooper: IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED, PETE BUTTIGIEG IS, 232 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:53,518 HIMSELF, A VERY SKILLED POLITICIAN. IN 2019, WHEN HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC 233 00:25:53,585 --> 00:25:59,124 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW HIM AND COULDN'T PRONOUNCE HIS NAME. >> Buttigeig: THEY CALL ME“ 234 00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:03,862 MAYOR PETE.” >> Cooper: BUT THEY QUICKLY LEARNED. >> Buttigeig: BUTT-EDGE-EDGE, 235 00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:09,567 BUTT-EDGE-EDGE. >> Cooper: HE LED THE FIELD IN IOWA ALONG WITH BERNIE SANDERS, AND FINISHED A CLOSE SECOND IN 236 00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:15,874 NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHEN HE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE IN MARCH 2020, HE ENDORSED JOE BIDEN, WHO LATER OFFERED HIM A 237 00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:21,913 CABINET POST. WHEN HE WAS SWORN IN, HE BECAME THE FIRST OPENLY GAY CABINET SECRETARY TO BE CONFIRMED BY 238 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:26,551 CONGRESS. >> Harris: CONGRATULATIONS, MR. SECRETARY. >> Cooper: DID YOU THINK ABOUT 239 00:26:26,618 --> 00:26:31,389 IT ON THAT DAY? >> Buttigeig: YEAH. YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS HARD NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT. 240 00:26:31,456 --> 00:26:36,795 IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO THAT BEING GAY MEANT THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE ANY JOB IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NEVER MIND 241 00:26:36,861 --> 00:26:40,765 BEING A SOLDIER OR A CABINET OFFICER. YOU COULDN'T BE A BOOKKEEPER. YOU COULD LOSE YOUR JOB-- 242 00:26:40,832 --> 00:26:44,769 >> Cooper: AND YOU COULD BE FIRED IF YOU WERE. >> Buttigeig: AND MANY PEOPLE WERE. 243 00:26:44,836 --> 00:26:49,741 AND TO KNOW NOW THAT-- THAT-- I CAN BE WHO I AM AND HAVE THIS JOB, I-- I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 244 00:26:49,808 --> 00:26:57,682 >> Cooper: IN AUGUST 2021, BUTTIGIEG AND HIS HUSBAND, CHASTEN ADOPTED NEWBORN TWINS, A BOY AND A GIRL. 245 00:26:57,749 --> 00:27:05,457 THE TWINS WERE BORN PREMATURELY, AND THEIR SON GUS SPENT TIME IN INTENSIVE CARE. BUT AS SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS 246 00:27:05,523 --> 00:27:10,228 MOUNTED LAST FALL, BUTTIGIEG CAME UNDER ATTACK FOR TAKING PARENTAL LEAVE DURING A CRISIS. >> Tucker Carlson: PETE 247 00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:15,867 BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN ON LEAVE FROM HIS JOB SINCE AUGUST AFTER ADOPTING A CHILD, PATERNITY LEAVE, THEY CALL IT, TRYING TO 248 00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:20,905 FIGURE OUT HOW TO BREASTFEED, NO WORD ON HOW THAT WENT. >> Cooper: WERE YOU SURPRISED BY-- BY THAT CRITICISM? 249 00:27:20,972 --> 00:27:26,211 >> Buttigeig: A LITTLE BIT, YEAH. BECAUSE SOME OF IT CAME FROM CORNERS THAT-- TALK A LOT ABOUT 250 00:27:26,277 --> 00:27:33,418 FAMILY VALUES. ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT, LIKE SO MANY PARENTS HAVE TO DO, I 251 00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:39,591 TOOK CARE OF MY KIDS AND I TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS. >> Cooper: HIS AGENCY HAS SO FAR MADE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF 252 00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:45,630 DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO IMPROVE PORTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS REMAIN A MAJOR CHALLENGE. 253 00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:51,936 CAN YOU SAY WHEN THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE WILL BE SOLVED? >> Buttigeig: WHEN THE PANDEMIC ENDS IT'LL GET A LOT BETTER, BUT 254 00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:58,009 IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO HAVE THE KIND OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO WEATHER THE NEXT SHOCK, 255 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:04,282 WHETHER IT'S A PANDEMIC OR WHO KNOWS, A CYBER ATTACK CERTAINLY MORE EXTREME WEATHER RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 256 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:10,188 WE'VE GOT TO GET MORE RESILIENT FOR THAT. >> Cooper: THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW INCLUDES AN UNPRECEDENTED 257 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:17,695 $66 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS FOR AMTRAK TO IMPROVE ITS EXISTING RAILS AND TUNNELS AND EXPAND ITS SERVICE. 258 00:28:17,762 --> 00:28:25,637 THERE'S ALSO $5 BILLION TO HELP BUILD A NETWORK OF CHARGING STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 259 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:33,344 BUT MOST OF THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY IS GOING TO ROADS, HIGHWAYS, AND BRIDGES. THERE'S FOLKS WHO HAVE LOOKED 260 00:28:33,411 --> 00:28:39,551 AT-- AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, AND DON'T REALLY SEE IT HAVING A NET POSITIVE IMPACT ON CLIMATE. YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONCRETE 261 00:28:39,617 --> 00:28:44,122 THAT'S BEING MADE, STEEL THAT'S BEING MADE, ALL THAT IS A HUGE RELEASE OF CARBON >> Buttigeig: THAT'S WHY WE GOT 262 00:28:44,189 --> 00:28:49,160 TO SPEND THESE DOLLARS IN A SMART WAY, RIGHT? THE MORE WE GET PEOPLE ON TO TRANSIT, GIVE THEM GOOD TRANSIT 263 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:53,698 OPTIONS, THE LESS THEY HAVE TO DRIVE. AND THEN WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING, THE MORE WE GET THEM IN ELECTRIC 264 00:28:53,765 --> 00:28:59,337 VEHICLES, THAT'S GOOD FOR THE CLIMATE, TOO. IN JUNE WE AWARDED GEORGIA PORTS AUTHORITY A $47 MILLION GRANT. 265 00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:05,777 >> Cooper: GIVING INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY TO LOCAL LEADERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY COULD PROVE TO BE VERY GOOD FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG 266 00:29:05,844 --> 00:29:12,851 SHOULD HE DECIDE TO RUN FOR NATIONAL OFFICE AGAIN, BUT IT WILL TAKE MANY YEARS TO COMPLETE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. 267 00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:17,755 AND BEFORE THERE ARE NEW BRIDGES AND IMPROVED ROADS, THERE WILL BE LOTS OF CLOSED LANES AND TRAFFIC JAMS. 268 00:29:17,822 --> 00:29:25,763 WE WERE CURIOUS WHAT THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS, THE GROUP THAT GAVE THE NATION'S CURRENT 269 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:33,371 INFRASTRUCTURE A “C-,” THOUGHT THE INFUSION OF FEDERAL FUNDS WOULD ACCOMPLISH. ONE OF THEIR TOP OFFICIALS TOLD 270 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:40,078 US IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT STILL ONLY ABOUT HALF OF WHAT'S NEEDED. SHE SAYS THAT SHE HOPES THAT THE 271 00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:49,454 INFRASTRUCTURE GRADE SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW WOULD BE A B. WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEING SPENT, STILL ONLY A B. 272 00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:54,092 HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN A B IN YOUR LIFE? YOU S-- YOU STRIKE ME AS THE KIND OF GUY WHO HASN'T GOTTEN A 273 00:29:54,159 --> 00:30:00,131 LOT OF B's IN YOUR LIFE. >> Buttigeig: LOOK: YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS SHOOTING FOR A+. BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE BUILDING A 274 00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:05,770 HOUSE. THIS IS BUILDING A COUNTRY, LITERALLY. AND SOME OF THESE THINGS DO TAKE 275 00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:10,208 TIME. EACH PASSING YEAR YOU'LL SEE MORE RESULTS, AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. 276 00:30:10,275 --> 00:30:17,115 ( TICKING ) >> PETE BUTTIGIEG'S FUTURE IN POLITICS. >> Cooper: I'M GOING TO ASK YOU 277 00:30:17,182 --> 00:30:21,786 A QUESTION WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW YOU DON'T ANSWER IT. 278 00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:26,191 >> AT 60minutesovertime.com. SPONSORED BY 279 00:30:30,361 --> 00:30:37,702 ( TICKING ) >> Norah O'Donnell: THE SHOW "TED LASSO" WAS NOMINATED FOR 20 EMMYS LAST YEAR, MORE THAN 280 00:30:37,769 --> 00:30:44,409 ANY OTHER NEW COMEDY IN TELEVISION HISTORY. IT'S A FISH OUT OF WATER STORY ABOUT AN AMERICAN FOOTBALL COACH 281 00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:48,780 FROM KANSAS WHO MOVES TO LONDON, ENGLAND, TO TAKE CHARGE OF A PROFESSIONAL SOCCER TEAM, DESPITE KNOWING NOTHING OF THE 282 00:30:48,846 --> 00:30:57,055 SPORT. THE TALE OF TED LASSO MAY SOUND IMPROBABLE, BUT THE SERIES HAS BECOME A PHENOMENON AND CHANGED 283 00:30:57,121 --> 00:31:02,393 THE GAME IN HOLLYWOOD. SO, WHEN PRODUCTION FOR THE THIRD SEASON WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN, WE WENT TO LONDON TO MEET AS 284 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:10,768 MANY MEMBERS OF THE ENSEMBLE CAST AS WE COULD, INCLUDING JASON SUDEIKIS, TED LASSO'S MASTERMIND AND ALTER EGO, TO 285 00:31:10,835 --> 00:31:18,610 FIND OUT HOW THE SHOW SCORED. >> KNOCK A DOODLE DO. >> GOOD MORNING, COACH LASSO. >> O'Donnell: DID YOU SET OUT 286 00:31:18,676 --> 00:31:24,282 AND SAY, "I WANT A CHARACTER THAT'S ALL ABOUT POSITIVITY AND KINDNESS AND CAN TRANSFORM PEOPLE, BRING OUT THE BEST IN 287 00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:30,088 PEOPLE?" >> Jason Sudeikis: TO PLAY THE CHARACTER WAS INTENTIONAL. TO PLAY SOMEONE THAT WAS 288 00:31:30,154 --> 00:31:36,027 KINDHEARTED, THAT DIDN'T SWEAR-- BE LIKE TEFLON TOWARDS PEOPLE'S NEGATIVITY OR-- OR-- OR SARCASM, 100% INTENTIONAL. 289 00:31:36,094 --> 00:31:40,598 >> O'Donnell: KINDNESS AND POSITIVITY CAN BE TRANSFORMATIVE. >> Sudeikis: YEAH, AND SO CAN 290 00:31:40,665 --> 00:31:46,371 THE OPPOSITE. BUT I MEAN, IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE ONE AT THE-- AT THAT POINT OF WRITING IT AND WANTING TO PLAY 291 00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:52,477 IT, I'D MUCH RATHER TRY TO VIEW THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, AS TED LASSO. >> THAT WAY IS THE "LASSO WAY." 292 00:31:52,543 --> 00:31:57,982 >> O'Donnell: JASON SUDEIKIS TOLD US THE COMEDY IN "TED LASSO" ROLLS ONTO THE SCREEN LIKE A TROJAN HORSE. 293 00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:02,453 >> HOWDY Y'ALL COWBOYS! >> O'Donnell: SOMETIMES FARCICAL. >> MORNING TED! 294 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:10,461 >> HEY, HIGGINS! >> O'Donnell: OFTEN PROFANE. >> JUST GONNA WATCH YOUR ASS. >> ( BLEEP ) OFF! 295 00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:17,635 >> O'Donnell: CARRYING WITH IT, HOMESPUN WISDOM AND WARMTH. >> BOY THAT'S A HEAPING SPOONFUL OF TRUTH SOUP RIGHT THERE. 296 00:32:17,702 --> 00:32:21,572 >> O'Donnell: THE SHOW DEFIED NOT JUST THE DARK TIMES OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT SOMETIMES LOGIC ITSELF. 297 00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:24,709 >> DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS, TED? >> Sudeikis: MM-HMM. I DO, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I 298 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:30,448 THINK THEY NEED TO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES. >> O'Donnell: AS COACH OF THE FICTIONAL SOCCER TEAM KNOWN AS 299 00:32:30,515 --> 00:32:38,456 A.F.C. RICHMOND, SUDEIKIS LIKES TO SAY TED LASSO IS THE BEST VERSION OF HIMSELF. ONE QUALITY BOTH CHARACTER AND 300 00:32:38,523 --> 00:32:46,197 ACTOR SHARE IS CURIOSITY. >> Sudeikis: I SAW THIS QUOTE BY WALT WHITMAN, IT WAS PAINTED ON THE WALL THERE, AND IT SAID, 301 00:32:46,264 --> 00:32:53,905 "BE CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL." I LIKE THAT. >> O'Donnell: WALT WHITMAN NEVER WROTE OR SAID, “BE CURIOUS, NOT 302 00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:59,744 JUDGMENTAL,” YET IT'S BECOME MORE THAN JUST A CATCHPHRASE. >> Sudeikis: MY MOM'S PARISH IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO, 303 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:04,849 CHRIST THE KING, YOU KNOW, HAD, LIKE, A BIBLE STUDY CLASS. >> O'Donnell: AND WHAT WAS THE BIBLE STUDY ABOUT? 304 00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:09,253 >> Sudeikis: PROBABLY, LIKE, BE CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL, THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO "TED LASSO," SOMETHING LIKE 305 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,757 THAT, MAYBE, I THINK. IT MIGHT'VE BEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> FOOTBALL IS FOOTBALL NO 306 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:20,531 MATTER WHERE YOU PLAY IT. >> O'Donnell: THE SHOW'S SUCCESS IS EVEN MORE EXTRAORDINARY WHEN YOU CONSIDER ITS ORIGINS. 307 00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:26,504 NEARLY TEN YEARS AGO, LONG BEFORE TED LASSO BECAME GOSPEL, HE BEGAN AS AN ARROGANT, IN-CURIOUS COMMERCIAL. 308 00:33:26,571 --> 00:33:30,775 >> Sudeikis: HEY, HOW YA DOING? THIS IS TED LASSO AND I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THE QUEEN, PLEASE. ♪ ♪ ♪ 309 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:38,349 >> O'Donnell: NBC SPORTS NEEDED A BUZZY AD CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE SOCCER'S ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE IN THE U.S. 310 00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:44,489 SO THEY CALLED SUDEIKIS, WHO WAS FINISHING-UP A TEN-YEAR RUN ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE. >> SKIP LIKE LITTLE GIRLS. 311 00:33:44,555 --> 00:33:49,193 GO, NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD. >> O'Donnell: HE SAID THE JOB SOUNDED LIKE FUN, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE WAS ALLOWED TO INVITE 312 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:54,198 TWO OLD FRIENDS ALONG FOR THE RIDE. SO, BEFORE YOU GUYS CREATED "TED LASSO," YOU WERE ACTUALLY 313 00:33:54,265 --> 00:33:57,535 BEST FRIENDS. >> Sudeikis: I DON'T KNOW, BEST, I MEAN-- ( CROSSTALK ) 314 00:33:57,602 --> 00:34:00,605 >> Joe Kelly: LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR LIVES. >> Brendan Hunt: OVERSTATEMENT-- >> Sudeikis: YEAH, I THINK WE-- 315 00:34:00,671 --> 00:34:03,341 WE GOT ALONG WELL-- >> Kelly: WE'RE FINE. >> Sudeikis: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. ( LAUGHTER ) 316 00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:06,043 >> O'Donnell: HOW-- SO, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR RELATIONSHIP? >> Sudeikis: BEST-- I THINK BEST 317 00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:12,884 FRIENDS I THINK. IF I HAD TO-- ( LAUGHTER ) >> O'Donnell: "TED LASSO" 318 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:17,121 CO-CREATORS JOE KELLY AND BRENDAN HUNT HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER AND JASON SUDEIKIS FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS. 319 00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:22,293 >> Sudeikis: I'M GOING TO BE OKAY. >> O'Donnell: AFTER THE COMMERCIALS, THE TRIO DEVELOPED 320 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:30,568 TED LASSO INTO A MORE COMPLETE CHARACTER WHO SHED HIS ARROGANT SWAGGER FOR HUMBLE CURIOSITY. IN THE SHOW, TED LASSO ALSO 321 00:34:30,635 --> 00:34:34,572 DEALS WITH DIVORCE. >> BUT YOU'RE NOT QUITTING, TED. >> O'Donnell: AND MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES. 322 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:40,578 >> Sudeikis: YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO JUST JOT DOWN YOUR LITTLE NOTES AND DIAGNOSE MY TEARS AND THEN WHAT? 323 00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:45,683 >> O'Donnell: ALL WHILE BRINGING A FEMININE APPROACH TO A TYPICALLY MASCULINE JOB. >> Sudeikis: Y'ALL GOT TO GET 324 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:50,855 TOGETHER AND WOMAN-UP! >> THINK YOU MEAN MAN-UP, MATE. >> Sudeikis: NO, Y'ALL BE MANNING-UP FOR A WHILE NOW AND 325 00:34:50,922 --> 00:35:00,932 LOOK WHERE THAT'S GOT YA. >> Bill Lawrence: IF ANYBODY CLAIMS THAT THEY THOUGHT THIS SHOW OR KNEW THIS SHOW WAS GOING 326 00:35:00,998 --> 00:35:04,769 WORK, THEY'RE FIBBING A LITTLE BIT. NO ONE WAS SURE. >> O'Donnell: THE THREE FRIENDS 327 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:09,240 GOT A BOOST WHEN VETERAN TELEVISION PRODUCER BILL LAWRENCE JOINED THE PROJECT. WHAT WAS IN JASON'S PITCH THAT 328 00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:22,386 CONVINCED YOU? >> Lawrence: HE KNEW FROM THE START THAT THIS WAS A GUY THAT WAS PUTTING OUT A OPTIMISTIC 329 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:30,561 FACE AND THAT WOULD BE ONE NOTE IF HE WASN'T ALSO AWARE THAT THAT WAS COVERING UP SOMEBODY THAT NEEDED TO LEARN ABOUT SELF- 330 00:35:30,628 --> 00:35:34,632 CARE AND BEING PROACTIVE IN FACING WHATEVER DEMONS THEY MIGHT HAVE. >> Hunt: IT GOT MOVING ONCE BILL 331 00:35:34,699 --> 00:35:38,636 WAS INVOLVED. >> O'Donnell: BUT BILL SAID THIS IS NOT A SOCCER SHOW. >> Sudeikis: RIGHT. 332 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:46,644 >> Kelly: YEAH. >> Hunt: HE BASICALLY POUNDED THE-- THE TABLE AND SHOUTED AT A VERY EARLY—WRITER'S ROOM 333 00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:50,481 SESSION, "THIS IS NOT A SOCCER SHOW! THIS IS A WORKPLACE ENSEMBLE COMEDY." 334 00:35:50,548 --> 00:35:53,851 BUT THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A GUIDING PRINCIPLE, YOU KNOW? IT TAKES PLACE IN THE SOCCER WORLD, BUT IT'S NOT-- IT'S NEVER 335 00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:57,855 ABOUT THE SOCCER AT ALL. >> Sudeikis: YEAH, THE THING THAT I WOULD SAY, IN, LIKE, THE PITCH MEETINGS WHEN BILL AND I 336 00:35:57,922 --> 00:36:02,393 WENT OUT WAS LIKE, "THIS SHOW'S AS MUCH ABOUT SOCCER AS, LIKE, 'ROCKY' IS ABOUT BOXING." >> O'Donnell: WHAT HAPPENED WHEN 337 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:07,398 YOU SHOPPED AROUND "TED LASSO" HERE IN HOLLYWOOD? WHAT WAS THE REACTION? >> ( BLOWS RASPBERRY ) 338 00:36:07,465 --> 00:36:10,968 >> Sudeikis: THAT-- ( LAUGHTER ) NO. >> Hunt: WHAT-- WHAT'S THE 339 00:36:11,035 --> 00:36:19,010 OPPOSITE OF A BIDDING WAR? >> Sudeikis: IT WAS LIKE, ER,“ WE'LL TAKE IT.” >> O'Donnell: STREAMING SERVICE 340 00:36:19,076 --> 00:36:25,182 APPLE TV+ DECIDED TO TAKE ON "TED LASSO," WHICH IS PRODUCED BY WARNER BROS. DO YOU THINK YOU HAD MORE 341 00:36:25,249 --> 00:36:30,888 FREEDOM BECAUSE IT WAS APPLE? >> Kelly: WE WENT INTO FILMING-- FEELING LIKE THE UNDERDOGS THAT RICHMOND WERE. 342 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:34,725 LIKE, WE WEREN'T COMING ON THE HEELS OF A BIDDING WAR. WE WEREN'T COMING ON THE HEELS OF, LIKE, "HERE WE GO WITH THIS 343 00:36:34,792 --> 00:36:45,236 MONSTER SHOW." AND I FELT LIKE IT HELPED THE-- THE PROCESS, THE TONE, THE FEELING, THE VIBE, EVERYTHING. 344 00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:53,177 >> O'Donnell: THE VIBE BEHIND THE SCENES SEEMS TO MIRROR THE TEAM SEEN ON THE SHOW. WE INVITED BRENDAN HUNT, WHO 345 00:36:53,244 --> 00:37:00,251 PLAYS COACH BEARD. >> Hunt: BRENTFORD TAKING ON CRYSTAL PALACE. LASSO SPECIAL! 346 00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:05,389 >> O'Donnell: AND TOHEEB JIMOH AND KOLA BOKINNI, WHO PORTRAY SOCCER PLAYERS ON TED LASSO, TO A PROPER SATURDAY AFTERNOON 347 00:37:05,456 --> 00:37:10,761 MATCH. SO, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED IN TALKING TO THE WRITERS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DEAL 348 00:37:10,828 --> 00:37:17,835 WITH ON THE SHOW, ARE TRYING TO DISMANTLE, IS TOXIC MASCULINITY. >> Toheeb Jimoh: 100%. I THINK SETTING THE SHOW IN-- IN 349 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:21,372 LIKE, A BOY'S LOCKER ROOM, IN A FOOTBALL LOCKER ROOM IS. >> Kola Bokinni: WAS EASY. WAS EASY-- 350 00:37:21,439 --> 00:37:25,376 >> Jimoh: IT'S THE PERFECT PLACE TO, LIKE, TRY AND TACKLE THAT. I THINK THAT COMES FROM LIKE JUST LIKE, A CULTURE OF, LIKE-- 351 00:37:25,443 --> 00:37:31,482 YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE. LIKE, IT'S LIKE-- LIKE, BOYS BEING AROUND OTHER BOYS, AND LIKE EVERYONE IS PRETENDING TO 352 00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:35,086 BE, LIKE, THIS VERSION OF, LIKE, WHAT THEY THINK, LIKE, A MAN IS-- OR A YOUNG MAN IS. >> Bokinni: YOU GET DIFFERENT 353 00:37:35,152 --> 00:37:40,858 VERSIONS OF PEOPLE IN IT, YOU KNOW? THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IS NOT THE PERSON 354 00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:47,064 THAT YOU ARE IN-- IN REAL LIFE. >> O'Donnell: BEFORE HE TOOK ON TED LASSO, IN REAL LIFE, JASON SUDEIKIS HAILED FROM KANSAS, 355 00:37:47,131 --> 00:37:53,904 JUST LIKE THE COACH HE NOW PLAYS. THERE HE WAS A COLLEGE THEATER STAR, BUT JUST AS COMFORTABLE 356 00:37:53,971 --> 00:38:00,411 PLAYING POINT-GUARD ON THE BASKETBALL TEAM. HE SAYS RICHMOND IS PARTLY BASED ON HIS OLD TEAM, THAT ALSO 357 00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:06,317 HAPPENED TO BE CALLED THE GREYHOUNDS. BILL HAD ONE OF THESE HANGING IN HIS OFFICE HE POINTED OUT ON THE 358 00:38:06,384 --> 00:38:10,855 SET. >> Sudeikis: DE MAAT, NAMED AFTER MARTIN DE MAAT, AN IMPROV TEACHER FROM SECOND CITY. 359 00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:17,828 >> O'Donnell: TED LASSO'S WRITERS NAMED MEMBERS OF THE TEAM AFTER FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND FORMER MENTORS. 360 00:38:17,895 --> 00:38:22,833 >> Sudeikis: SASKIA MAAS IS ONE OF THE OWNERS OF BOOM CHICAGO WHERE BRENDAN, JOE AND I ALL WORKED IN AMSTERDAM. 361 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:28,839 >> ONE, TWO, THREE, GREYHOUNDS! >> O'Donnell: IT'S HARD SOMETIMES FOR ONE WORD TO CAPTURE SO MANY THINGS, BUT FOR 362 00:38:28,906 --> 00:38:31,542 A LOT OF PEOPLE, THIS IS THE ICONIC TED LASSO? >> Sudeikis: YEAH. >> O'Donnell: "BELIEVE." 363 00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:34,512 >> Sudeikis: I KNOW. >> O'Donnell: BELIEVE IN YOURSELF? BELIEVE IN THE PEOPLE AROUND 364 00:38:34,578 --> 00:38:42,053 YOU? >> Sudeikis: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. BELIEVE IN THE-- IN THE PROCESS. 365 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,556 >> O'Donnell: ONE OF THE SHOW'S BREAKOUT STARS, BRETT GOLDSTEIN, BELIEVED HE COULD PLAY ROY KENT. >> Roy Kent: CHECK ON YOUR 366 00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:50,561 ( BLEEP ) TEAMMATE! >> O'Donnell: THE GRUFF, WASHED- UP TOUGH GUY, WITH A HEART OF GOLD. 367 00:38:50,628 --> 00:38:57,568 >> Goldstein: I LIKE BEING ROY KENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN HANDLE JUST BEING SOME LOSER HAS-BEEN CALLED ROY. 368 00:38:57,635 --> 00:39:01,305 >> O'Donnell: TROUBLE WAS, GOLDSTEIN WAS HIRED TO WRITE, NOT ACT. >> Goldstein: LAST TIME I SAW 369 00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:08,779 EYES THAT COLD THEY WERE GOING HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH ROY SCHEIDER. >> Goldstein: WHILE WE WERE WRITING IT, ABOUT SOMEWHERE 370 00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:13,350 AROUND EPISODE FIVE I STARTED TO THINK, I THINK ROY KENT IS LIVING INSIDE ME. >> O'Donnell: HOW DID BRETT 371 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:20,291 GOLDSTEIN GO FROM WRITER TO STAR? >> Sudeikis: JUST FLAT-OUT SHOW BIZ GUMPTION, YOU KNOW, HE JUST 372 00:39:20,357 --> 00:39:26,931 FELT A CONNECTION TO THE CHARACTER. AND SO, HE-- HE DID-- TAPED HIMSELF, SENT IT TO BILL SAYING, 373 00:39:26,997 --> 00:39:30,901 "HEY, IF THIS IS GOOD, YOU KNOW, GREAT. IF IT'S NOT, WE NEVER NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN." 374 00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:34,905 ( LAUGHS ) >> Hunt: THEY'RE LIKE, "BRETT TURNED IN A ROY VIDEO." "OH, DID HE? 375 00:39:34,972 --> 00:39:41,545 ( LAUGHTER ) FIRE IT UP." AND IMMEDIATELY WAS LIKE, "BRETT'S ROY." 376 00:39:41,612 --> 00:39:50,421 IT WAS IMMEDIATE. >> Goldstein: YOU ALL PLAY LIKE A BUNCH OF LITTLE PRICKS! YOU HEAR ME? 377 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:54,925 >> YES, COACH! >> Kelly: ROY'S VERY GRUFF, VERY ANGRY, AND IT'S ALWAYS JARRING WHEN YOU CALL BRETT AND HE 378 00:39:54,992 --> 00:40:00,297 ANSWERS THE PHONE, "HELLO? ( LAUGHTER ) HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU, DEAR FRIEND?" 379 00:40:00,364 --> 00:40:08,806 HE'S THE SWEETEST MOST GENTLE MAN. >> Goldstein: HE'S A CAULDRON OF EMOTION THAT HE DOESN'T WANT 380 00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:18,749 ANYONE TO KNOW ABOUT, WHO HAS BEEN RAISED IN A CULTURE OF ALMOST TOXIC MASCULINITY, TO BE A ( BLEEP ) WALL. 381 00:40:18,816 --> 00:40:26,924 AND HE HAS ALL THESE FEELINGS AND THESE EMOTIONS, BUT HE CANNOT EXPRESS THEM ALL. AND HE HAS TO KEEP THEM PENT UP, 382 00:40:26,991 --> 00:40:33,731 WHICH IS WHY HE TALKS LIKE HE TALKS, 'CAUSE HE'S HOLDING IT ALL IN. IT'S LIKE A CORK. 383 00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:37,334 >> O'Donnell: A CORK-- >> Goldstein: IF HE PULLED IT OUT HE'D CRY AND SING AND, YOU KNOW, FLY OFF. 384 00:40:37,401 --> 00:40:43,407 >> Hannah Waddingham: YOU'RE NEARLY 70 AND YOU'RE HAVING A BABY, WHAT ARE YOU, A CHARACTER FROM THE ( BLEEP ) BIBLE? 385 00:40:43,474 --> 00:40:50,915 >> O'Donnell: HANNAH WADDINGHAM, WHO SPENT MUCH OF THE LAST 20 YEARS PERFORMING MUSICAL THEATER IN LONDON'S WEST END, PLAYS TEAM 386 00:40:50,981 --> 00:40:57,154 OWNER, REBECCA WELTON. WHY DO YOU THINK THE SHOW RESONATED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE? AND DOES IT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO 387 00:40:57,221 --> 00:41:01,492 WITH THE PANDEMIC? >> Waddingham: I THINK IT DOES AND IT DOESN'T. PEOPLE ASSOCIATE IT WITH THE 388 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:08,833 PANDEMIC TIME, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT WAS A MASSIVE HUG. AND IT WAS A WAY OF EVERYONE BLOCKING IT OUT. 389 00:41:08,899 --> 00:41:13,304 >> O'Donnell: THE SHOW WAS A MASSIVE HUG. >> Waddingham: YES. >> O'Donnell: A HUG TO WHAT? 390 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:21,445 >> Waddingham: TO PEOPLE. TO HUMANITY. IT'S-- IT'S-- I THINK IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY NEEDED AT THE TIME. 391 00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:25,282 THEY NEEDED A HUG AND A REMINDER TO BE KIND TO EACH OTHER. A REMINDER TO INCLUDE EACH OTHER. 392 00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:33,891 A REMINDER TO CHECK IN WITH EACH OTHER, EVEN IF YOU THINK SOMEONE'S GOT THEIR STUFF TOGETHER, THEY HAVEN'T. 393 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:38,996 I ALSO THINK THAT HAD THE PANDEMIC NOT HAPPENED, IT WOULD HAVE DONE EXACTLY THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING 394 00:41:39,063 --> 00:41:46,971 ABOUT OUR SHOW THAT REMINDS EVERYONE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE CUTTING TO BE FUNNY. YOU CAN BE WARM, AND FUNNY, AND 395 00:41:47,037 --> 00:41:51,108 KIND, AND GIVING, AND SUPPORTIVE, AND ACCEPTING, AND FUNNY. >> O'Donnell: AND THAT'S WHAT 396 00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:58,482 MAKES "TED LASSO" DISTINCT. >> Waddingham: YES. ( LAUGHTER ) > THANK YOU! 397 00:41:58,549 --> 00:42:01,418 >> O'Donnell: AT LAST YEAR'S EMMYS, WADDINGHAM, GOLDSTEIN... >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH! THANK YOU! 398 00:42:01,485 --> 00:42:07,758 >> O'Donnell: AND SUDEIKIS ALL TOOK HOME TROPHIES FOR ACTING. >> I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL. >> O'Donnell: AND THE SHOW WON 399 00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:12,596 OUTSTANDING COMEDY SERIES. >> RICHMOND WAS MORE OF A CRICKET TOWN THAN A FOOTBALL TOWN. 400 00:42:12,663 --> 00:42:18,502 >> O'Donnell: THE RICHMOND GREYHOUNDS MAY BE A MAKE-BELIEVE TEAM, BUT RICHMOND THE TOWN IS 100% REAL 401 00:42:18,569 --> 00:42:25,209 THIS IS THE REAL VERSION OF THE SET. >> Hunt: YEAH. YOU KIND OF CAN'T FAKE RICHMOND, 402 00:42:25,276 --> 00:42:33,651 REALLY, YOU KNOW? THIS BAR'S GREAT, WE BASICALLY BUILT AN EXACT REPLICA. >> O'Donnell: THIS IS NOT WHAT I 403 00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:39,056 EXPECTED TODAY. THE DAY WE WERE THERE, SO WERE FANS OF THE SHOW, INCLUDING A YOUNG WOMAN WHO HAD TRAVELED 404 00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:47,131 FROM GERMANY AND HAD JUST GOTTEN A TATTOO IN HONOR OF TED LASSO. >> IT'S STILL IN THE ZIPLOC. >> O'Donnell: AND IT READ, “BE 405 00:42:47,197 --> 00:42:52,503 CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL.” I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY SPECIAL, BEING OUT HERE? AND-- 406 00:42:52,569 --> 00:42:57,675 >> Sudeikis: YES. >> O'Donnell: WE ALSO TOOK A WALK ON THE FIELD WHERE THE RICHMOND GREYHOUNDS SHOOT MOST 407 00:42:57,741 --> 00:43:01,345 OF THEIR SOCCER SCENES. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF GREAT. YOUR PITCH IS RIGHT NEAR THE STUDIO? 408 00:43:01,412 --> 00:43:07,117 >> Sudeikis: I KNOW. IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. HAPPY ACCIDENT. >> O'Donnell: IN TYPICAL 409 00:43:07,184 --> 00:43:13,424 MIDWESTERN FASHION, JASON SUDEIKIS WAS NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE EXPLAINING THE SHOW'S SUCCESS, NOR TAKING 410 00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:18,696 CREDIT FOR IT. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGACY OF "TED LASSO" IS DECADES FROM NOW? >> Sudeikis: I DON'T KNOW. 411 00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:23,100 I HOPE, I HOPE, FOLKS KEEP WATCHING IT. A DECENT CHANCE IT'LL PAY FOR MY KIDS' COLLEGE. 412 00:43:23,167 --> 00:43:27,438 ( LAUGHS ) UNLESS I-- UNLESS I BLOW IT ALL. >> O'Donnell: YOU DON'T THINK IT'S ALREADY DONE THAT? 413 00:43:27,504 --> 00:43:37,214 >> Sudeikis: YOU DON'T THINK I'VE ALREADY BLOWN IT? ( LAUGHTER ) ( TICKING ) 414 00:43:39,049 --> 00:43:47,558 ( TICKING ) >> Whitaker: I'M BILL WHITAKER. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MIN 415 00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:52,262 ( TICKING ) Captioning funded by CBS and FORD.