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and FORD.
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We go further, so you can.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE DON'T
WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH, BUT IT
IS MY CHRISTIAN VALUES TO TELL
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THE TRUTH AND I- AND I WILL.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF VOTER
FRAUD.
IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
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>> BUT MANY WISCONSIN
REPUBLICANS CAN'T SEEM TO GET
PAST 2020.
THIS WAS LAST MONTH IN THE STATE
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CAPITOL, AS G.O.P. LEGISLATORS
WERE URGED TO KEEP QUESTIONING
THE PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.
A THIRD INVESTIGATION OF
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WISCONSIN'S ELECTION REMAINS
UNDERWAY.
>> IN WISCONSIN, YOU WILL NO
LONGER CHEAT, YOU WILL NO LONGER
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STEAL, AND YOU WILL NO LONGER
COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD.
( TICKING )
>> THE YEAS ARE 69.
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THE NAYS ARE 30.
>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW,
PASSED LAST YEAR, WILL BE ONE OF
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT
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IN AMERICA'S BRIDGES, ROADS AND
RAILS IN MORE THAN HALF A
CENTURY, AND AS EVERYONE
WATCHING THIS WELL KNOWS, IT'S
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BADLY NEEDED.
HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT A COUNTRY
LIKE THE UNITED STATES GETS
A "C-" ON INFRASTRUCTURE?
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>> FOR A LONG TIME, EVERYBODY
HERE IN WASHINGTON SAID,“
WE GOT TO DO THIS," OR“
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.”
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IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED, BUT WE
GOT A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE UP
FOR.
( TICKING )
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>> KNOCK-A-DOODLE-DOO.
>> AH, GOOD MORNING COACH LASSO.
>> BOY, THAT'S A HEAPING
SPOONFUL OF TRUTH SOUP RIGHT
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THERE.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGACY
OF "TED LASSO" IS, DECADES FROM
NOW?
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>> I HOPE FOLKS KEEP WATCHING
IT.
HEY, HIGGINS.
IT'S A DECENT CHANCE IT'LL PAY
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FOR MY KIDS' COLLEGE.
( LAUGHS )
UNLESS I-- UNLESS I BLOW IT ALL.
>> YOU DON'T THINK IT'S ALREADY
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DONE THAT?
>> YOU DON'T THINK I'VE ALREADY
BLOWN IT?
( LAUGHTER )
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( TICKING )
>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
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>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M NORAH O'DONNELL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
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THOSE STORIES, TONIGHT, ON
"60 MINUTES."
BUT FIRST, CHARLIE D'AGATA WITH
THE LATEST FROM UKRAINE THIS
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EVENING.
( TICKING )
DRAMATIC ATTACK NOT FAR FROM
THE POLISH BORDER.
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AT LEAST 35 PEOPLE DILLED
AFTER RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT FIRED
MISSILES.
IT'S THE FIRST ATTACK TO TAKE
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PLACE THAL FAR WEST AND
REFLECTS HOW THE RUSSIAN
ONSLAUGHT EXPANDED IN
INTENSITY AND REACH.
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>> THE NORTHERN CITY ALSO COME
UNDER ANOTHER NIGHT OF HEAVY
BOMBARDMENT.
RUSSIAN FORCES CLOSE IN ON THE
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CAPITAL, BUT CITY'S NORTHWEST
OF KYIV HAVE BEEN BATTERED BY
RUSSIAN ARTILLERY SENDING
RESIDENTS FLEEING FOR THEIR
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LIVES.
>> YOU SEE WHAT IT COMES DOWN
TO FOR THE PEOPLE WITHOUT
VEHICLES WHO FLED THE VILLAGES
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IN THE BACK OF CARGO TRUCKS
BEING HANDED WARM DRINKS,
WATERED AND SOMETHING TO EAT.
AT LEAST THEIR SAFE FOR NOW.
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>> COVERING THE BATTLE
UNDERWAY IN IRPIN COST A
JOURNALIST HIS LIFE.
HE WAS SHOT DEAD WHEN RUSSIAN
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TROOPS OPENED FIRE ON HIS CAR.
>> IN A BID TO BOOST MORALE,
UKRANIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
SENT FOR SOLDIERS TO THANK
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THEM FOR SERVICE.
TONIGHT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF CIVILIANS FACE SHELLING,
SUBFREEZING TEMPERATURES
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WITHOUT FOOD, WATER,
ELECTRICITY OR A SAFE WAY OUT.
FOR 60 MINUTES.
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>> Bill Whitaker: THE PRIMARY
SEASON IS ALREADY UNDERWAY FOR
THIS FALL'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
AND ACCORDING TO A CBS NEWS
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POLL, 61% OF VOTERS SAY THEY
WANT POLITICIANS TO ADDRESS THE
VOTING PROCESS.
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
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INSISTS VOTER FRAUD COST HIM
RE-ELECTION, DESPITE HAVING LOST
MORE THAN 60 LAWSUITS
CHALLENGING THE PROCESS.
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NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF
REPUBLICANS BELIEVE JOE BIDEN'S
VICTORY WAS ILLEGITIMATE.
AND REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED
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LEGISLATURES IN BATTLEGROUND
STATES, INCLUDING ARIZONA,
FLORIDA, AND GEORGIA, HAVE
REWRITTEN ELECTION LAWS.
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REPUBLICANS SAY IT'S IN ORDER TO
MAKE VOTING MORE SECURE.
DEMOCRATS SAY IT'S TO MAKE IT
HARDER FOR THEIR TRADITIONAL
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BASE TO CAST BALLOTS.
PERHAPS NO STATE IS MORE
CONTENTIOUS THAN WISCONSIN,
WHICH JOE BIDEN WON BY LESS THAN
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ONE PERCENT OF THE VOTE, AND
WHERE A BATTLE IS RAGING OVER
VOTING RIGHTS AND WRONGS.
WAS THE 2020 VOTE IN WISCONSIN
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CLEAN AND FAIR?
>> Senator Kathy Bernier: YES.
>> Whitaker: THE ELECTION WAS
NOT STOLEN FROM DONALD TRUMP?
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>> Bernier: NO.
THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN FROM
DONALD TRUMP.
>> Whitaker: KATHY BERNIER IS A
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WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN STATE
SENATOR.
SHE TOLD US WIDESPREAD VOTER
FRAUD IS ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE IN
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WISCONSIN.
HOW IS IT THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT
WITH SUCH CERTAINTY, AND SUCH
CONVICTION?
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>> Bernier: BECAUSE I KNOW THE
PROCESS.
>> Whitaker: A DIEHARD
CONSERVATIVE, BERNIER BEGAN HER
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POLITICAL CAREER OVERSEEING
ELECTIONS AS CLERK IN CHIPPEWA
COUNTY
TODAY, SHE CHAIRS THE STATE
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SENATE COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
AND CALLS THE TALK OF VOTER
FRAUD A CHARADE THAT WILL HURT
REPUBLICANS AT THE POLLS.
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>> Bernier: IF THERE IS MASSIVE
VOTER FRAUD, WHY WASN'T IT
PROVEN IN GEORGIA AFTER THREE
RECOUNTS?
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WHY WASN'T IT PROVEN IN ARIZONA
AFTER THE FORENSIC AUDITS?
AND WHY WASN'T IT PROVEN HERE?
BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE PROVED.
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>> Whitaker: YOU SUPPORTED
DONALD TRUMP?
>> Bernier: I VOTED FOR HIM
TWICE.
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>> Whitaker: BUT NOW I HEAR YOU
SAYING ALMOST THE EXACT OPPOSITE
FROM WHAT FORMER PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP SAYS, AND HIS
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SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING NOW.
>> Bernier: I DON'T KNOW WHY
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE
TRUTH.
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BUT IS IT MY CHRISTIAN VALUES TO
TELL THE TRUTH AND I-- AND I
WILL.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF VOTER
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FRAUD.
IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
>> Whitaker: BUT WISCONSIN
REPUBLICANS CAN'T SEEM TO GET
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PAST 2020.
THIS WAS LAST MONTH IN THE STATE
CAPITOL.
REPUBLICANS FROM ALL OVER THE
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STATE URGED G.O.P. LEGISLATORS
TO STAND FIRM.
RALLY ORGANIZER, JEFFERSON
DAVIS, THE FORMER VILLAGE
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PRESIDENT OF MENOMONEE FALLS,
HAD A MESSAGE FOR DEMOCRATS.
>> Jefferson Davis: IN
WISCONSIN, YOU WILL NO LONGER
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CHEAT, YOU WILL NO LONGER STEAL,
AND YOU WILL NO LONGER COMMIT
ELECTION FRAUD.
>> Whitaker: REPUBLICANS
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DOMINATE BOTH CHAMBERS OF THE
WISCONSIN LEGISLATURE, AND MOST
WON ON THE SAME 2020 BALLOT THAT
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOW
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CONTESTS.
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HOPING TO
UNSEAT GOVERNOR TONY EVERS, A
DEMOCRAT, EITHER DENY PRESIDENT
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00:07:10,663 --> 00:07:17,503
JOE BIDEN WON THE ELECTION,
WON'T SAY, OR QUESTION THE
PROCESS.
FOUR G.O.P. POLITICIANS ARE
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ANGLING TO OUST THIS MAN,
DEMOCRAT DOUG LA FOLLETTE,
WISCONSIN'S SECRETARY OF STATE.
OVER HIS 44 YEARS IN OFFICE
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REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES HAVE CUT
HIS BUDGET, REDUCED HIS DUTIES
AND MOVED HIS OFFICE TO THE
CAPITOL BASEMENT WHERE HE SPENDS
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HIS DAYS CERTIFYING DOCUMENTS.
>> Doug La Follette: SO WHY
WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO BE
SECRETARY OF STATE?
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>> Whitaker: SO WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> La Follette: GIVEN THE WHOLE
TRUMP ELECTION PHENOMENON, THERE
IS AN EFFORT TO GET MORE CONTROL
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OF ELECTIONS IN KEY STATES, AND
WISCONSIN IS A KEY BATTLEGROUND
STATE.
>> Whitaker: AND REPUBLICANS
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RUNNING TO UNSEAT HIM DO WANT TO
EMPOWER THE OFFICE TO OVERSEE
ELECTIONS.
>> La Follette: AND IT'S GOING
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ON ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THERE ARE TRUMP CANDIDATES
RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
IN MANY PLACES TRYING TO
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ACCOMPLISH SIMILAR THINGS.
>> Whitaker: WE REACHED OUT TO
TOP REPUBLICAN LEADERS, AND ALL
EITHER DECLINED OUR REQUEST FOR
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AN INTERVIEW, OR WOULDN'T
RESPOND.
>> Robin Vos: EVERY SINGLE
PROCESS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT
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IT IS, CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED.
>> Whitaker: REPUBLICAN ROBIN
VOS, THE POWERFUL SPEAKER OF THE
ASSEMBLY, TOLD WISCONSIN PUBLIC
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RADIO HALF THE STATE OR MORE
BELIEVES THERE WERE SERIOUS
PROBLEMS WITH THE 2020 ELECTION.
HE ORDERED AN INVESTIGATION,
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THE THIRD BY THE LEGISLATURE,
TO CHECK FOR FLAWS IN THE
ELECTION AND PROPOSE LEGISLATIVE
FIXES.
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>> Vos: WHOEVER WINS, THE VAST
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SHOULD THINK
IT WAS DONE FAIR AND SQUARE.
>> Whitaker: THIS PAST JUNE HE
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APPOINTED FORMER WISCONSIN
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, AND
FORMER DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR
OF OUTREACH, DIVERSITY AND
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INCLUSION IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, MICHAEL GABLEMAN
TO HEAD UP THE INVESTIGATION.
>> Michael Gableman: IN THAT
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CAPACITY I WORK DIRECTLY FOR
YOU, THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN.
>> Whitaker: AFTER BEING TAPPED
FOR THE JOB, GABLEMAN TOLD THE
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"MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL,"
LIKE MOST PEOPLE HE DIDN'T HAV“"
A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING
OR EVEN ANY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW
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00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:22,428
ELECTIONS WORK.”
YET RIGHT AFTER THE 2020
ELECTION, HE TOLD A TRUMP CROWD
THEIR VOTES HAD BEEN STOLEN.
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>> Gableman: I DON'T THINK
ANYONE HERE CAN THINK OF
ANYTHING MORE SYSTEMATICALLY
UNJUST THAN A STOLEN ELECTION.
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>> Whitaker: ASSEMBLY SPEAKER
ROBIN VOS ANNOUNCED THE GABLEMAN
INVESTIGATION LAST JUNE, JUST
HOURS AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT
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DONALD TRUMP ACCUSED THE SPEAKER
OF “WORKING HARD TO COVER UP
ELECTION CORRUPTION” IN 2020.
NOT LONG AFTERWARD, VOS FLEW TO
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A TRUMP RALLY WITH THE FORMER
PRESIDENT AND ASSURED HIM OF A
TOP-TO-BOTTOM INVESTIGATION BY
MICHAEL GABLEMAN.
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GABLEMAN, WHO ALSO IGNORED OUR
REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW, DRAWS
A SALARY OF $11,000 A MONTH.
HE'S MADE LITTLE ATTEMPT TO BE
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TRANSPARENT OR BIPARTISAN.
HE REVEALED HIS STAFF ONLY UNDER
PRESSURE FROM THE PRESS AND
DEMOCRATS; SOME WERE FOUND TO
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HAVE WORKED IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION OR WITH STOP THE
STEAL EFFORTS.
HIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN SO
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SECRETIVE A JUDGE RULED IT
VIOLATED WISCONSIN'S PUBLIC
RECORDS LAW.
THIS MONTH, GABLEMAN RELEASED
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HIS INTERIM REPORT, LIVE ON
CABLE TV FROM THE STATE CAPITOL.
>> Gableman: I BELIEVE THE
LEGISLATURE OUGHT TO TAKE A VERY
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00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:43,209
HARD LOOK AT THE OPTION OF
DECERTIFICATION OF THE 2020
WISCONSIN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
>> Whitaker: THE LEGISLATURE'S
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OWN STAFF ATTORNEYS SAY THERE'S
NO LEGAL WAY TO DECERTIFY THE
ELECTION.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS FOUND ABOUT
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TWO DOZEN PEOPLE WERE CHARGED
WITH VOTER FRAUD IN WISCONSIN IN
2020 OUT OF MORE THAN 3 MILLION
VOTES CAST.
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BUT MICHAEL GABLEMAN SAYS HE
BELIEVES THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS
FLAWED.
HE POINTS TO GRANTS FROM A
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NONPROFIT FUNDED BY MARK
ZUCKERBERG, TO HELP
MUNICIPALITIES RUN SAFE
ELECTIONS IN THE PANDEMIC.
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ABOUT 2,500 COMMUNITIES AROUND
THE COUNTRY, BOTH RED AND BLUE,
RECEIVED FUNDS, INCLUDING 217 IN
WISCONSIN THAT GOT ABOUT
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$10 MILLION.
BUT GABLEMAN FOCUSED ON WHAT HE
CALLS THE ZUCKERBERG FIVE.
>> Gableman: THE FIVE LARGEST
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RECIPIENTS WERE THE FIVE LARGEST
DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CITIES IN
THE STATE.
>> Whitaker: HE CALLED GRANTS TO
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THE STATE'S FIVE LARGEST CITIES
BRIBES TO BOOST VOTES FOR
DEMOCRATS AND QUOTED THEIR GRANT
APPLICATION.
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>> Gableman: WITH PARTICULAR
EMPHASIS ON REACHING VOTERS OF
COLOR, LOW INCOME VOTERS WITHOUT
RELIABLE ACCESS TO INTERNET,
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DISABILITIES AND PRIMARY
LANGUAGE IS NOT ENGLISH.
>> Whitaker: HE FOUND THAT
LANGUAGE DAMNING; BUT A FEDERAL
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JUDGE APPOINTED BY GEORGE W.
BUSH FOUND NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT
THE GRANTS.
MICHAEL GABLEMAN BLAMES WHAT HE
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CALLS A BOTCHED ELECTION ON THE
BIPARTISAN WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
COMMISSION, WHICH WAS CREATED
SEVERAL YEARS AGO BY REPUBLICANS
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IN THE LEGISLATURE.
HE ESPECIALLY TARGETS ITS
ADMINISTRATOR, MEAGAN WOLFE.
>> Meagan Wolfe: MY POSITION IS
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NONPARTISAN AS IS ALL OF THE
STAFF AT THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
COMMISSION.
>> Whitaker: WHAT DOES THAT
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ACTUALLY MEAN?
>> Wolfe: TO ME, IT MEANS THAT I
DON'T GIVE ANY DEFERENCE TO
POLITICAL PRESSURE, SO PEOPLE
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TRYING TO SWAY US TO IMPLEMENT
ELECTIONS IN A WAY THAT MIGHT BE
BENEFICIAL TO ONE PARTY, OR ONE
CANDIDATE, OR THE OTHER.
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>> Whitaker: MEAGAN WOLFE WAS
UNANIMOUSLY CONFIRMED FOR THE
WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
BY THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED
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STATE SENATE ALMOST THREE YEARS
AGO.
IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, SHE
WAS SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT OF THE
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00:12:51,403 --> 00:12:58,477
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE
ELECTION DIRECTORS.
>> Wolfe: WHEN WE SAY THAT THE
ELECTION IN WISCONSIN WAS FREE
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AND FAIR, WE'RE NOT GUESSING.
WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE
AUDITED THE ELECTION.
WE HAVE RECOUNTED THE ELECTION.
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00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:12,925
WE HAVE CANVASSED THE ELECTION.
THERE HAVE BEEN COURT DECISIONS
THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THE ELECTION
AND AFFIRMED THE RESULT.
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00:13:12,992 --> 00:13:19,765
>> Whitaker: WHY ARE PEOPLE
SUSPICIOUS OF THE OUTCOME OF
THIS ELECTION?
>> Wolfe: I'M NOT REALLY SURE,
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00:13:19,832 --> 00:13:24,837
OTHER THAN IT FEELS LIKE PEOPLE
ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT
ANSWER TO SUPPORT A DIFFERENT
CONCLUSION.
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>> Whitaker: A DIFFERENT OUTCOME
TO THE ELECTION RESULTS?
>> Wolfe: YES.
>> Whitaker: WHERE IS THAT
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COMING FROM?
>> Wolfe: PEOPLE'S FREEDOM TO
VOTE IS A SACRED RIGHT.
AND THEY TAKE THAT VERY
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SERIOUSLY.
BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE
THAT I THINK ARE TRYING TO
WEAPONIZE MISINFORMATION TO
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MISLEAD PEOPLE FOR A PARTISAN
PURPOSE.
>> Whitaker: BY HER ACCOUNT,
MICHAEL GABLEMAN IS REVISING
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HISTORY, MAKING EXTRAORDINARY
MEASURES THEY HAD TO TAKE TO RUN
A SAFE ELECTION IN A DEADLY
PANDEMIC SEEM SINISTER.
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THIS WAS THE PRESIDENTIAL
PRIMARY IN APRIL 2020: LONG
LINES, SCARED, COLD, FRUSTRATED
VOTERS.
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00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:09,949
THREE WEEKS EARLIER, PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAD DECLARED A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY.
ON ELECTION DAY, ASSEMBLY
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SPEAKER VOS, IN PROTECTIVE GEAR,
TOLD VOTERS THERE WAS NOTHING TO
WORRY ABOUT.
>> Vos: IT'S GOING SMOOTHLY,
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SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FINE IN
ALMOST EVERY PART OF WISCONSIN
SO I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE
DOING.
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>> Whitaker: WITH ALL THE
UNCERTAINTY...
>> I WILL CALL THE MEETING OF
THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
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COMMISSION TO ORDER.
>> Whitaker: ...THE BIPARTISAN
ELECTIONS COMMISSION HAD TO MAKE
SNAP DECISIONS, REINTERPRET
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ELECTION LAWS TO FIT
UNPRECEDENTED CIRCUMSTANCES, ALL
DONE TRANSPARENTLY IN PUBLIC
ZOOM MEETINGS.
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00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:46,919
THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION GAVE
COMMUNITIES GUIDANCE ON ABSENTEE
BALLOTS, WHICH SHOT UP FROM 4%
TO 40% OF ALL VOTES.
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00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:53,926
THEY ENDORSED EXPANDED USE OF
DROP BOXES.
INSTEAD OF HOLDING ON-SITE
VOTING AT NURSING HOMES, WHICH
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WERE COVID HOT SPOTS AT THE
TIME, THE COMMITTEE ORDERED
ELECTION CLERKS TO MAIL BALLOTS
TO RESIDENTS WHO'D REQUESTED
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THEM.
IN HIS REPORT, MICHAEL GABLEMAN
CLAIMS ALL THOSE DECISIONS WERE
ILLEGAL.
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YOU WERE THE FIRST STATE IN THE
COUNTRY TO HAVE TO HAVE AN
ELECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS
PANDEMIC.
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>> Wolfe: WE WERE.
I STILL GET GOOSEBUMPS WHEN I
THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN ALL
1,850 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS OUR
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STATE THEY WERE ABLE TO OPEN
THEIR POLLS ON ELECTION DAY.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE POLL WORKERS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE SUPPLIES.
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AND THEY WERE RISKING THEIR
HEALTH.
>> Gableman: LET'S TALK ABOUT
COVER-UPS.
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>> Whitaker: NEVERTHELESS,
MICHAEL GABLEMAN ACCUSES THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION OF STEALING
CITIZENS' VOTES.
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23 G.O.P. LEGISLATORS ARE
CALLING FOR MEAGAN WOLFE AND
ELECTIONS COMMISSIONERS TO BE
INVESTIGATED AND POSSIBLY
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PROSECUTED FOR CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
GABLEMAN PROPOSES ELIMINATING
THE BIPARTISAN COMMISSION
ALTOGETHER AND GIVING ITS DUTIES
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TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHO HE
SAYS WOULD BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE
TO VOTERS.
THIS PAST WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE
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EXTENDED GABLEMAN'S CONTRACT.
HIS INVESTIGATION WILL CONTINUE
AT LEAST THROUGH APRIL.
IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS THAT A--
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CREDIBLE INVESTIGATION?
>> Bernier: NO.
>> Whitaker: JUST FLAT OUT NO?
>> Bernier: NO.
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WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS UP.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND WE NEED
TO ELECT REPUBLICANS IN 2022.
>> Whitaker: REPUBLICAN STATE
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SENATOR KATHY BERNIER PLANS TO
RETIRE WHEN HER TERM IS UP IN
JANUARY.
SHE WON'T BE RUNNING IN 2022,
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BUT SHE SAYS THE STAKES COULDN'T
BE HIGHER.
>> Bernier: DONALD TRUMP IS
STILL THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN
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PARTY AS I SEE IT.
HE IS LIKELY GOING TO RUN IN
2024.
HE HAS A LOT OF POWER, AND A LOT
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OF INFLUENCE, AND I RESPECT
THAT.
SO I DON'T HAPPEN TO CARE ABOUT
THAT.
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>> Whitaker: WHAT DO YOU CARE
ABOUT?
>> Bernier: THAT WE LEAVE THIS
COUNTRY BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT
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WAS IN THE PAST.
WE'RE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY
SLOPE.
AND MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST POLITICS
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TO ME, IT MATTERS.
( TICKING )
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>> Anderson Cooper: THREE YEARS
AGO, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS THE
MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
A CITY WITH ONLY ABOUT 160
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TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
TODAY, “MAYOR PETE” IS“
SECRETARY PETE,” HEAD OF THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
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TRANSPORTATION.
THANKS TO THE BIPARTISAN
INFRASTRUCTURE LAW PASSED LAST
YEAR, HE'S OVERSEEING ONE OF THE
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MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN
AMERICA'S BRIDGES, ROADS AND
RAILS IN MORE THAN HALF A
CENTURY.
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BUTTIGIEG IS 40-YEARS-OLD,
A HARVARD GRADUATE, RHODES
SCHOLAR, AND FORMER NAVY RESERVE
OFFICER WHO RAN FOR THE
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DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINATION IN 2020.
NOW HE'S DEALING WITH A
PANDEMIC-RELATED SUPPLY CHAIN
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CRISIS AND TRYING TO ENSURE THAT
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER
DOLLARS ARE WELL-SPENT ON AGING
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS IN
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DESPERATE NEED OF REPAIR.
AT ABOUT 6:30 A.M. ON JANUARY
28, THIS BRIDGE IN PITTSBURGH,
PENNSYLVANIA, COLLAPSED WHILE A
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BUS AND SOME CARS WERE DRIVING
ACROSS IT.
NO ONE WAS KILLED, BUT SEVERAL
PEOPLE WERE INJURED.
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FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ARE TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND WHY SAFETY
INSPECTORS HADN'T WARNED THAT A
COLLAPSE WAS IMMINENT.
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WHEN SOMEBODY'S DRIVING OVER A
BRIDGE, SHOULD THEY FEEL
CONFIDENT?
>> Pete Buttigeig: YEAH.
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I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S SAFE.
THERE'S INSPECTION STANDARDS
THAT WE SET FEDERALLY.
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BUT-- BUT HERE'S THE ISSUE: IF A
BRIDGE IS DETERIORATING, YOU'RE
GOING TO FEEL THE CONSEQUENCES
OF THAT, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO
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KEEP IT SAFE IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE
CLOSED.
>> Cooper: 42% OF AMERICA'S
BRIDGES ARE AT LEAST 50 YEARS
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OLD, AND MORE THAN 7% ARE
CONSIDERED “STRUCTURALLY
DEFICIENT,” INCLUDING THIS ONE
NOT FAR FROM SECRETARY PETE
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BUTTIGIEG'S OFFICE IN
WASHINGTON, D.C.
SO, THIS DOES NOT LOOK GREAT.
>> Buttigieg: I MEAN, LOOK AT
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IT, RIGHT?
IT-- IT TELLS A STORY RIGHT
THERE.
WE'RE RIGHT BY, YOU KNOW, A
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THRIVING ECONOMIC AREA IN THE
NATION'S CAPITAL, AND YOU GOT
LITERALLY BITS OF RUST COMING
OFF-- PIPES AND THE UNDERSIDE OF
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OUR BRIDGE.
USUALLY--
>> Cooper: THAT'S ACTUALLY
FROM-- FROM THAT?
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>> Buttigieg: YEAH, I THINK SO.
I THINK THAT USED TO BE THIS
BRIDGE.
>> Cooper: WHEN GRADING THE
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OVERALL STATE OF THIS COUNTRY'S
INFRASTRUCTURE, THE AMERICAN
SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS
RECENTLY GAVE THE U.S. A “C-."
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HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A
COUNTRY LIKE THE UNITED STATES
GETS A C- ON INFRASTRUCTURE?
>> Buttigeig: WELL, YOU GET WHAT
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YOU PAY FOR.
AND FOR PRETTY MUCH AS LONG AS
I'VE BEEN ALIVE, OUR COUNTRY HAS
BEEN UNDER-INVESTING IN PUBLIC
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THINGS.
FOR A LONG TIME, EVERYBODY HERE
IN WASHINGTON SAID, "WE GOT TO
DO THIS," OR, "WE'RE GOING TO DO
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THIS," IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED BUT
WE-- WE GOT A LOT OF TIME TO
MAKE UP FOR.
>> Cooper: THE BIPARTISAN
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INFRASTRUCTURE BILL SIGNED INTO
LAW BY PRESIDENT BIDEN IN
NOVEMBER GUARANTEES AT LEAST
$850 BILLION OF SPENDING OVER
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THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
THERE'S $55 BILLION TO HELP
COMMUNITIES REMOVE LEAD PIPES
AND DELIVER CLEAN DRINKING
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WATER, $65 BILLION TO EXPAND
BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE AND
MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE, AND
ANOTHER $65 BILLION TO UPGRADE
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THE NATION'S POWER GRID.
MANY FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE
INVOLVED, BUT PETE BUTTIGIEG'S
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
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WILL BE THE LARGEST RECIPIENT OF
FUNDS, DISTRIBUTING MORE THAN
$560 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS TO
IMPROVE EVERYTHING FROM TUNNELS,
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BRIDGES, AND ROADS TO MASS
TRANSIT, PORTS, AND AIRPORTS.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THE
COUNTRY INVESTED THIS AMOUNT OF
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MONEY IN INFRASTRUCTURE?
>> Buttigeig: WHEN IT COMES TO
ROADS AND BRIDGES, WE HAVEN'T
INVESTED AT THIS LEVEL SINCE THE
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EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION, SINCE
THEY BUILT THE INTERSTATE
HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
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>> Cooper: WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING
TO SEE DIFFERENT IN THEIR LIVES
OR IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
OF THIS INVESTMENT?
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>> Buttigeig: I THINK ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO
NOTICE IS ACCELERATED WORK ON
ROADS AND BRIDGES.
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NOT JUST THE BIG, FAMOUS BRIDGES
IN OUR BIGGEST CITIES.
THIS IS THOUSANDS OF BRIDGES
AROUND THE COUNTRY.
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>> Cooper: ONE OF THE MANY
THINGS PENNSYLVANIA WILL DO WITH
ITS INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY IS
REBUILD THAT BRIDGE THAT
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COLLAPSED IN PITTSBURGH AND
WASHINGTON, D.C. PLANS TO FIX
THE “H STREET” BRIDGE WE SAW
NEAR UNION STATION.
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BUT IN MANY CASES, IT'S TOO
EARLY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHICH
PROJECTS WILL BE FUNDED.
THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THE MONEY
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WILL BE AWARDED BY BUTTIGIEG AND
HIS STAFF TO COMMUNITIES THAT
WILL COMPETE FOR DISCRETIONARY
GRANTS.
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BUT MORE MONEY IS BEING SENT
DIRECTLY TO THE STATES, WHERE
GOVERNORS AND LOCAL LEADERS WILL
DECIDE HOW TO SPEND IT.
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IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES-- WHEN
THEY GET MONEY, THEIR EMPHASIS
IS ON BUILDING NEW ROADS.
YOU'RE TRYING TO EMPHASIZE--
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FIXING EXISTING ROADS.
THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POPULAR--
>> Buttigeig: THERE'S ALWAYS A
BIAS TOWARD THE SHINY, NEW
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THING.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, AS A COUNTRY,
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT
WE'VE GOT.
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>> Cooper: IN EARLIER VERSIONS
OF THE BILL THERE WERE
PROVISIONS THAT WOULD'VE
REQUIRED STATES TO DEDICATE
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MONEY TO REPAIRING FREEWAYS
BEFORE BUILDING NEW ONES.
THOSE PROVISIONS WERE TAKEN OUT.
>> Buttigeig: THE REQUIREMENTS
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AREN'T THERE, BUT IT'S STILL A
GOOD IDEA AND WE'RE STILL GOING
TO ENCOURAGE IT.
>> Cooper: THERE'S RESEARCH
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SHOWING THAT HISTORICALLY MORE
OF THE GRANT MONEY GOES TO
STATES THAT VOTED FOR THE PARTY
IN POWER.
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UNDER OBAMA UN-- IT WENT TO BLUE
STATES, UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP IT
WENT TO-- TO RED STATES.
IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN?
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>> Buttigeig: WE'RE REALLY
FOCUSED ON TAKING THOSE PARTY
POLITICS OUT OF THE PICTURE.
>> Cooper: BUT NO ADMINISTRATION
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SAYS, "YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
DOING."
BUT HISTORICALLY THAT IS WHAT
HAPPENS.
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>> Buttigeig: BUT LOOK AT WHAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.
SO, THIS LAST ROUND OF
DISCRETIONARY GRANTS, FOR
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EXAMPLE, $1 BILLION THAT I HAD
THE FINAL SIGN OFF ON.
WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER THE
CONGRESSIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR
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HOW MUCH GOES TO RURAL AREAS.
RURAL AREAS AREN'T KNOWN FOR
SUPPORTING MY POLITICAL PARTY.
BUT THEY--
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( LAUGHS )
THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF NEED.
AND SO, WE'RE FUNDING GOOD
PROJECTS THERE.
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>> Cooper: MOODY'S ANALYTICS
ESTIMATES THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW
WILL CREATE 872,000 NEW JOBS BY
LATE 2025.
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PROJECTS LONG ON THE DRAWING
BOARD MAY FINALLY HAPPEN.
FOR EXAMPLE: THE HUDSON RIVER
TRAIN TUNNEL THAT RUNS BETWEEN
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NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY IS A
CRUCIAL ARTERY THAT LOCAL
LEADERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
UPGRADE FOR YEARS.
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>> Buttigieg: IT WAS ABSOLUTE
STATE-OF-THE-ART, BEST-
CONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY 110
YEARS AGO.
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( LAUGHS )
>> Cooper: IN NINETEEN-- IN
1910.
>> Buttigieg: YEAH.
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AND WE'RE GOING DEEP INTO THE
21st CENTURY STILL DEPENDING ON
THAT HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD
INFRASTRUCTURE.
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>> Cooper: THE TUNNELS SO BADLY
DAMAGED CREWS HAVE TO WORK ON IT
AT NIGHT SO PIECES OF IT DON'T
FALL ON THE TRACKS DURING THE
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DAY.
IF AN EXPECTED INFRASTRUCTURE
GRANT COMES THROUGH,
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TUNNEL
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COULD FINALLY BEGIN NEXT YEAR.
KENTUCKY GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR
HAS SAID HE'D LIKE TO USE
INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY TO HELP
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BUILD A COMPANION TO THE
CONGESTED BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE
THAT CONNECTS KENTUCKY AND OHIO.
AIRPORTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY
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WILL BE RECEIVING MONEY THIS
YEAR TO UPGRADE THEIR RUNWAYS
AND TERMINALS.
L.A.X. WILL GET $79 MILLION,
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CHICAGO O'HARE $74 MILLION, AND
ATLANTA'S INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
$92 MILLION.
SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG PLANS TO USE
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SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY
TO REVITALIZE LOW-INCOME BLACK
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE DIVIDED
OR DAMAGED BY THE CONSTRUCTION
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OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS.
BUT FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON
DE SANTIS HAS EXPRESSED SOME
SKEPTICISM ABOUT THAT.
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>> Ron Desantis: I MEAN, I HEARD
SOME STUFF, SOME WEIRD STUFF
FROM THE SECRETARY OF
TRANSPORTATION TRYING TO MAKE
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THIS ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES.
TO ME, A ROAD IS A ROAD.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'D
HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
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>> Cooper: IS A ROAD A ROAD?
>> Buttigeig: OF COURSE A ROAD
IS A ROAD.
BUT IF A ROAD WAS BUILT IN SUCH
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A WAY THAT IT REMOVED,
DESTROYED, OR DIVIDED A
COMMUNITY OF COLOR, THAT'S
SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO DEAL
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WITH.
>> Cooper: WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT
IT?
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
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REROUTE A HIGHWAY.
>> Buttigeig: WELL, YOU MIGHT.
IF FEDERAL DOLLARS WERE USED TO
DIVIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A CITY,
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FEDERAL DOLLARS SHOULD BE USED
TO RECONNECT IT.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN
THE HIGHWAY HAS TO GO
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COMPLETELY.
MAYBE YOU GOT TO BRIDGE OVER IT
OR AROUND IT, OR INTRODUCE
TRANSIT OR DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
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BUT THE POINT IS, TRANSPORTATION
SHOULD ALWAYS CONNECT, NEVER
DIVIDE.
>> Kamala Harris: THE YEAS ARE
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69.
THE NAYS ARE 30.
>> Cooper: THE PASSAGE OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IN THE
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SENATE WAS THE RESULT OF SOME
SERIOUS BRIDGE-BUILDING.
FIVE REPUBLICAN AND FIVE
DEMOCRATIC SENATORS NEGOTIATED
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THE DEAL AND CONVINCED THEIR
COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
200 REPUBLICANS AND SIX
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DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST THE
LEGISLATION, BUT THAT DIDN'T
STOP MANY OF THEM FROM LATER
CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THE MONEY IT
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GAVE TO THEIR DISTRICTS.
WHEN YOU HEAR A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR
THIS MONEY TURNING AROUND AND
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TAKING CREDIT FOR THE MONEY THAT
IS COMING TO THEIR DISTRICT--
>> Buttigeig: IT'S AN AMAZING
THING, ISN'T IT?
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AS IRRITATING AS THAT CAN BE, AS
LONG AS THE PROJECT GETS DONE,
AS LONG AS IT BENEFITS THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THE
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POLITICS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> Cooper: IF YOU HADN'T
NOTICED, PETE BUTTIGIEG IS,
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HIMSELF, A VERY SKILLED
POLITICIAN.
IN 2019, WHEN HE ANNOUNCED HE
WAS RUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC
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PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, MOST
PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW HIM AND
COULDN'T PRONOUNCE HIS NAME.
>> Buttigeig: THEY CALL ME“
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MAYOR PETE.”
>> Cooper: BUT THEY QUICKLY
LEARNED.
>> Buttigeig: BUTT-EDGE-EDGE,
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BUTT-EDGE-EDGE.
>> Cooper: HE LED THE FIELD IN
IOWA ALONG WITH BERNIE SANDERS,
AND FINISHED A CLOSE SECOND IN
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NEW HAMPSHIRE.
WHEN HE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE
IN MARCH 2020, HE ENDORSED JOE
BIDEN, WHO LATER OFFERED HIM A
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CABINET POST.
WHEN HE WAS SWORN IN, HE BECAME
THE FIRST OPENLY GAY CABINET
SECRETARY TO BE CONFIRMED BY
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CONGRESS.
>> Harris: CONGRATULATIONS,
MR. SECRETARY.
>> Cooper: DID YOU THINK ABOUT
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IT ON THAT DAY?
>> Buttigeig: YEAH.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS HARD NOT TO
THINK ABOUT IT.
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IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO THAT
BEING GAY MEANT THAT YOU
COULDN'T HAVE ANY JOB IN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NEVER MIND
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BEING A SOLDIER OR A CABINET
OFFICER.
YOU COULDN'T BE A BOOKKEEPER.
YOU COULD LOSE YOUR JOB--
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>> Cooper: AND YOU COULD BE
FIRED IF YOU WERE.
>> Buttigeig: AND MANY PEOPLE
WERE.
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AND TO KNOW NOW THAT-- THAT-- I
CAN BE WHO I AM AND HAVE THIS
JOB, I-- I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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>> Cooper: IN AUGUST 2021,
BUTTIGIEG AND HIS HUSBAND,
CHASTEN ADOPTED NEWBORN TWINS,
A BOY AND A GIRL.
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THE TWINS WERE BORN PREMATURELY,
AND THEIR SON GUS SPENT TIME IN
INTENSIVE CARE.
BUT AS SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS
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MOUNTED LAST FALL, BUTTIGIEG
CAME UNDER ATTACK FOR TAKING
PARENTAL LEAVE DURING A CRISIS.
>> Tucker Carlson: PETE
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BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN ON LEAVE FROM
HIS JOB SINCE AUGUST AFTER
ADOPTING A CHILD, PATERNITY
LEAVE, THEY CALL IT, TRYING TO
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FIGURE OUT HOW TO BREASTFEED,
NO WORD ON HOW THAT WENT.
>> Cooper: WERE YOU SURPRISED
BY-- BY THAT CRITICISM?
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>> Buttigeig: A LITTLE BIT,
YEAH.
BECAUSE SOME OF IT CAME FROM
CORNERS THAT-- TALK A LOT ABOUT
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FAMILY VALUES.
ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT, LIKE
SO MANY PARENTS HAVE TO DO, I
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TOOK CARE OF MY KIDS AND I TOOK
CARE OF BUSINESS.
>> Cooper: HIS AGENCY HAS SO FAR
MADE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
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DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO IMPROVE
PORTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT
SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS REMAIN A
MAJOR CHALLENGE.
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CAN YOU SAY WHEN THE SUPPLY
CHAIN ISSUE WILL BE SOLVED?
>> Buttigeig: WHEN THE PANDEMIC
ENDS IT'LL GET A LOT BETTER, BUT
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IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO HAVE
THE KIND OF TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE REALLY
NEED TO WEATHER THE NEXT SHOCK,
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WHETHER IT'S A PANDEMIC OR WHO
KNOWS, A CYBER ATTACK CERTAINLY
MORE EXTREME WEATHER RELATED TO
CLIMATE CHANGE.
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WE'VE GOT TO GET MORE RESILIENT
FOR THAT.
>> Cooper: THE INFRASTRUCTURE
LAW INCLUDES AN UNPRECEDENTED
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$66 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS FOR
AMTRAK TO IMPROVE ITS EXISTING
RAILS AND TUNNELS AND EXPAND ITS
SERVICE.
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THERE'S ALSO $5 BILLION TO HELP
BUILD A NETWORK OF CHARGING
STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR
ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
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BUT MOST OF THE TRANSPORTATION
MONEY IS GOING TO ROADS,
HIGHWAYS, AND BRIDGES.
THERE'S FOLKS WHO HAVE LOOKED
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AT-- AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL,
AND DON'T REALLY SEE IT HAVING A
NET POSITIVE IMPACT ON CLIMATE.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONCRETE
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THAT'S BEING MADE, STEEL THAT'S
BEING MADE, ALL THAT IS A HUGE
RELEASE OF CARBON
>> Buttigeig: THAT'S WHY WE GOT
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TO SPEND THESE DOLLARS IN A
SMART WAY, RIGHT?
THE MORE WE GET PEOPLE ON TO
TRANSIT, GIVE THEM GOOD TRANSIT
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OPTIONS, THE LESS THEY HAVE TO
DRIVE.
AND THEN WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING,
THE MORE WE GET THEM IN ELECTRIC
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VEHICLES, THAT'S GOOD FOR THE
CLIMATE, TOO.
IN JUNE WE AWARDED GEORGIA PORTS
AUTHORITY A $47 MILLION GRANT.
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>> Cooper: GIVING INFRASTRUCTURE
MONEY TO LOCAL LEADERS ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY COULD PROVE TO BE
VERY GOOD FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG
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SHOULD HE DECIDE TO RUN FOR
NATIONAL OFFICE AGAIN, BUT IT
WILL TAKE MANY YEARS TO COMPLETE
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
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AND BEFORE THERE ARE NEW BRIDGES
AND IMPROVED ROADS, THERE WILL
BE LOTS OF CLOSED LANES AND
TRAFFIC JAMS.
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WE WERE CURIOUS WHAT THE
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL
ENGINEERS, THE GROUP THAT GAVE
THE NATION'S CURRENT
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INFRASTRUCTURE A “C-,” THOUGHT
THE INFUSION OF FEDERAL FUNDS
WOULD ACCOMPLISH.
ONE OF THEIR TOP OFFICIALS TOLD
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US IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE
DEVELOPMENT, BUT STILL ONLY
ABOUT HALF OF WHAT'S NEEDED.
SHE SAYS THAT SHE HOPES THAT THE
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INFRASTRUCTURE GRADE SEVEN YEARS
FROM NOW WOULD BE A B.
WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEING
SPENT, STILL ONLY A B.
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HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN A B IN YOUR
LIFE?
YOU S-- YOU STRIKE ME AS THE
KIND OF GUY WHO HASN'T GOTTEN A
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LOT OF B's IN YOUR LIFE.
>> Buttigeig: LOOK: YOU KNOW,
WE'RE ALWAYS SHOOTING FOR A+.
BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE BUILDING A
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HOUSE.
THIS IS BUILDING A COUNTRY,
LITERALLY.
AND SOME OF THESE THINGS DO TAKE
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TIME.
EACH PASSING YEAR YOU'LL SEE
MORE RESULTS, AND IT IS GOING TO
TAKE A WHILE.
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( TICKING )
>> PETE BUTTIGIEG'S FUTURE IN
POLITICS.
>> Cooper: I'M GOING TO ASK YOU
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A QUESTION WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO ANSWER, BUT I'M
JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW YOU
DON'T ANSWER IT.
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>> AT 60minutesovertime.com.
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( TICKING )
>> Norah O'Donnell: THE SHOW
"TED LASSO" WAS NOMINATED FOR
20 EMMYS LAST YEAR, MORE THAN
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ANY OTHER NEW COMEDY IN
TELEVISION HISTORY.
IT'S A FISH OUT OF WATER STORY
ABOUT AN AMERICAN FOOTBALL COACH
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FROM KANSAS WHO MOVES TO LONDON,
ENGLAND, TO TAKE CHARGE OF A
PROFESSIONAL SOCCER TEAM,
DESPITE KNOWING NOTHING OF THE
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SPORT.
THE TALE OF TED LASSO MAY SOUND
IMPROBABLE, BUT THE SERIES HAS
BECOME A PHENOMENON AND CHANGED
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THE GAME IN HOLLYWOOD.
SO, WHEN PRODUCTION FOR THE
THIRD SEASON WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN,
WE WENT TO LONDON TO MEET AS
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MANY MEMBERS OF THE ENSEMBLE
CAST AS WE COULD, INCLUDING
JASON SUDEIKIS, TED LASSO'S
MASTERMIND AND ALTER EGO, TO
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FIND OUT HOW THE SHOW SCORED.
>> KNOCK A DOODLE DO.
>> GOOD MORNING, COACH LASSO.
>> O'Donnell: DID YOU SET OUT
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AND SAY, "I WANT A CHARACTER
THAT'S ALL ABOUT POSITIVITY AND
KINDNESS AND CAN TRANSFORM
PEOPLE, BRING OUT THE BEST IN
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PEOPLE?"
>> Jason Sudeikis: TO PLAY THE
CHARACTER WAS INTENTIONAL.
TO PLAY SOMEONE THAT WAS
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KINDHEARTED, THAT DIDN'T SWEAR--
BE LIKE TEFLON TOWARDS PEOPLE'S
NEGATIVITY OR-- OR-- OR SARCASM,
100% INTENTIONAL.
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>> O'Donnell: KINDNESS AND
POSITIVITY CAN BE
TRANSFORMATIVE.
>> Sudeikis: YEAH, AND SO CAN
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THE OPPOSITE.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE
ONE AT THE-- AT THAT POINT OF
WRITING IT AND WANTING TO PLAY
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IT, I'D MUCH RATHER TRY TO VIEW
THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, AS TED
LASSO.
>> THAT WAY IS THE "LASSO WAY."
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>> O'Donnell: JASON SUDEIKIS
TOLD US THE COMEDY IN
"TED LASSO" ROLLS ONTO THE
SCREEN LIKE A TROJAN HORSE.
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>> HOWDY Y'ALL COWBOYS!
>> O'Donnell: SOMETIMES
FARCICAL.
>> MORNING TED!
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>> HEY, HIGGINS!
>> O'Donnell: OFTEN PROFANE.
>> JUST GONNA WATCH YOUR ASS.
>> ( BLEEP ) OFF!
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>> O'Donnell: CARRYING WITH IT,
HOMESPUN WISDOM AND WARMTH.
>> BOY THAT'S A HEAPING SPOONFUL
OF TRUTH SOUP RIGHT THERE.
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>> O'Donnell: THE SHOW DEFIED
NOT JUST THE DARK TIMES OF THE
PANDEMIC, BUT SOMETIMES LOGIC
ITSELF.
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>> DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS,
TED?
>> Sudeikis: MM-HMM.
I DO, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I
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THINK THEY NEED TO BELIEVE IN
THEMSELVES.
>> O'Donnell: AS COACH OF THE
FICTIONAL SOCCER TEAM KNOWN AS
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A.F.C. RICHMOND, SUDEIKIS LIKES
TO SAY TED LASSO IS THE BEST
VERSION OF HIMSELF.
ONE QUALITY BOTH CHARACTER AND
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ACTOR SHARE IS CURIOSITY.
>> Sudeikis: I SAW THIS QUOTE BY
WALT WHITMAN, IT WAS PAINTED ON
THE WALL THERE, AND IT SAID,
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"BE CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL."
I LIKE THAT.
>> O'Donnell: WALT WHITMAN NEVER
WROTE OR SAID, “BE CURIOUS, NOT
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JUDGMENTAL,” YET IT'S BECOME
MORE THAN JUST A CATCHPHRASE.
>> Sudeikis: MY MOM'S PARISH IN
THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO,
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CHRIST THE KING, YOU KNOW, HAD,
LIKE, A BIBLE STUDY CLASS.
>> O'Donnell: AND WHAT WAS THE
BIBLE STUDY ABOUT?
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>> Sudeikis: PROBABLY, LIKE, BE
CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL,
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO
"TED LASSO," SOMETHING LIKE
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THAT, MAYBE, I THINK.
IT MIGHT'VE BEEN SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
>> FOOTBALL IS FOOTBALL NO
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MATTER WHERE YOU PLAY IT.
>> O'Donnell: THE SHOW'S SUCCESS
IS EVEN MORE EXTRAORDINARY WHEN
YOU CONSIDER ITS ORIGINS.
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NEARLY TEN YEARS AGO, LONG
BEFORE TED LASSO BECAME GOSPEL,
HE BEGAN AS AN ARROGANT,
IN-CURIOUS COMMERCIAL.
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>> Sudeikis: HEY, HOW YA DOING?
THIS IS TED LASSO AND I'D LIKE
TO TALK TO THE QUEEN, PLEASE.
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>> O'Donnell: NBC SPORTS NEEDED
A BUZZY AD CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE
SOCCER'S ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE
IN THE U.S.
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SO THEY CALLED SUDEIKIS, WHO WAS
FINISHING-UP A TEN-YEAR RUN ON
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.
>> SKIP LIKE LITTLE GIRLS.
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GO, NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD.
>> O'Donnell: HE SAID THE JOB
SOUNDED LIKE FUN, ESPECIALLY
WHEN HE WAS ALLOWED TO INVITE
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TWO OLD FRIENDS ALONG FOR THE
RIDE.
SO, BEFORE YOU GUYS CREATED
"TED LASSO," YOU WERE ACTUALLY
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BEST FRIENDS.
>> Sudeikis: I DON'T KNOW, BEST,
I MEAN--
( CROSSTALK )
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>> Joe Kelly: LOT OF PEOPLE IN
OUR LIVES.
>> Brendan Hunt: OVERSTATEMENT--
>> Sudeikis: YEAH, I THINK WE--
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WE GOT ALONG WELL--
>> Kelly: WE'RE FINE.
>> Sudeikis: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
( LAUGHTER )
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>> O'Donnell: HOW-- SO, HOW
WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR
RELATIONSHIP?
>> Sudeikis: BEST-- I THINK BEST
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FRIENDS I THINK.
IF I HAD TO--
( LAUGHTER )
>> O'Donnell: "TED LASSO"
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CO-CREATORS JOE KELLY AND
BRENDAN HUNT HAVE KNOWN EACH
OTHER AND JASON SUDEIKIS FOR
MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
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>> Sudeikis: I'M GOING TO BE
OKAY.
>> O'Donnell: AFTER THE
COMMERCIALS, THE TRIO DEVELOPED
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TED LASSO INTO A MORE COMPLETE
CHARACTER WHO SHED HIS ARROGANT
SWAGGER FOR HUMBLE CURIOSITY.
IN THE SHOW, TED LASSO ALSO
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DEALS WITH DIVORCE.
>> BUT YOU'RE NOT QUITTING, TED.
>> O'Donnell: AND MENTAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES.
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>> Sudeikis: YOU'RE GETTING PAID
TO JUST JOT DOWN YOUR LITTLE
NOTES AND DIAGNOSE MY TEARS AND
THEN WHAT?
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>> O'Donnell: ALL WHILE BRINGING
A FEMININE APPROACH TO A
TYPICALLY MASCULINE JOB.
>> Sudeikis: Y'ALL GOT TO GET
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TOGETHER AND WOMAN-UP!
>> THINK YOU MEAN MAN-UP, MATE.
>> Sudeikis: NO, Y'ALL BE
MANNING-UP FOR A WHILE NOW AND
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LOOK WHERE THAT'S GOT YA.
>> Bill Lawrence: IF ANYBODY
CLAIMS THAT THEY THOUGHT THIS
SHOW OR KNEW THIS SHOW WAS GOING
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WORK, THEY'RE FIBBING A LITTLE
BIT.
NO ONE WAS SURE.
>> O'Donnell: THE THREE FRIENDS
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GOT A BOOST WHEN VETERAN
TELEVISION PRODUCER BILL
LAWRENCE JOINED THE PROJECT.
WHAT WAS IN JASON'S PITCH THAT
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CONVINCED YOU?
>> Lawrence: HE KNEW FROM THE
START THAT THIS WAS A GUY THAT
WAS PUTTING OUT A OPTIMISTIC
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FACE AND THAT WOULD BE ONE NOTE
IF HE WASN'T ALSO AWARE THAT
THAT WAS COVERING UP SOMEBODY
THAT NEEDED TO LEARN ABOUT SELF-
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CARE AND BEING PROACTIVE IN
FACING WHATEVER DEMONS THEY
MIGHT HAVE.
>> Hunt: IT GOT MOVING ONCE BILL
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WAS INVOLVED.
>> O'Donnell: BUT BILL SAID THIS
IS NOT A SOCCER SHOW.
>> Sudeikis: RIGHT.
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>> Kelly: YEAH.
>> Hunt: HE BASICALLY POUNDED
THE-- THE TABLE AND SHOUTED AT A
VERY EARLY—WRITER'S ROOM
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SESSION, "THIS IS NOT A SOCCER
SHOW!
THIS IS A WORKPLACE ENSEMBLE
COMEDY."
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BUT THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A
GUIDING PRINCIPLE, YOU KNOW?
IT TAKES PLACE IN THE SOCCER
WORLD, BUT IT'S NOT-- IT'S NEVER
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ABOUT THE SOCCER AT ALL.
>> Sudeikis: YEAH, THE THING
THAT I WOULD SAY, IN, LIKE, THE
PITCH MEETINGS WHEN BILL AND I
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WENT OUT WAS LIKE, "THIS SHOW'S
AS MUCH ABOUT SOCCER AS, LIKE,
'ROCKY' IS ABOUT BOXING."
>> O'Donnell: WHAT HAPPENED WHEN
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YOU SHOPPED AROUND "TED LASSO"
HERE IN HOLLYWOOD?
WHAT WAS THE REACTION?
>> ( BLOWS RASPBERRY )
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>> Sudeikis: THAT--
( LAUGHTER )
NO.
>> Hunt: WHAT-- WHAT'S THE
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OPPOSITE OF A BIDDING WAR?
>> Sudeikis: IT WAS LIKE, ER,“
WE'LL TAKE IT.”
>> O'Donnell: STREAMING SERVICE
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APPLE TV+ DECIDED TO TAKE ON
"TED LASSO," WHICH IS PRODUCED
BY WARNER BROS.
DO YOU THINK YOU HAD MORE
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FREEDOM BECAUSE IT WAS APPLE?
>> Kelly: WE WENT INTO FILMING--
FEELING LIKE THE UNDERDOGS THAT
RICHMOND WERE.
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LIKE, WE WEREN'T COMING ON THE
HEELS OF A BIDDING WAR.
WE WEREN'T COMING ON THE HEELS
OF, LIKE, "HERE WE GO WITH THIS
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MONSTER SHOW."
AND I FELT LIKE IT HELPED THE--
THE PROCESS, THE TONE, THE
FEELING, THE VIBE, EVERYTHING.
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>> O'Donnell: THE VIBE BEHIND
THE SCENES SEEMS TO MIRROR THE
TEAM SEEN ON THE SHOW.
WE INVITED BRENDAN HUNT, WHO
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PLAYS COACH BEARD.
>> Hunt: BRENTFORD TAKING ON
CRYSTAL PALACE.
LASSO SPECIAL!
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>> O'Donnell: AND TOHEEB JIMOH
AND KOLA BOKINNI, WHO PORTRAY
SOCCER PLAYERS ON TED LASSO, TO
A PROPER SATURDAY AFTERNOON
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MATCH.
SO, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED IN
TALKING TO THE WRITERS THAT ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DEAL
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WITH ON THE SHOW, ARE TRYING TO
DISMANTLE, IS TOXIC MASCULINITY.
>> Toheeb Jimoh: 100%.
I THINK SETTING THE SHOW IN-- IN
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LIKE, A BOY'S LOCKER ROOM, IN A
FOOTBALL LOCKER ROOM IS.
>> Kola Bokinni: WAS EASY.
WAS EASY--
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>> Jimoh: IT'S THE PERFECT PLACE
TO, LIKE, TRY AND TACKLE THAT.
I THINK THAT COMES FROM LIKE
JUST LIKE, A CULTURE OF, LIKE--
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YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE.
LIKE, IT'S LIKE-- LIKE, BOYS
BEING AROUND OTHER BOYS, AND
LIKE EVERYONE IS PRETENDING TO
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BE, LIKE, THIS VERSION OF, LIKE,
WHAT THEY THINK, LIKE, A MAN
IS-- OR A YOUNG MAN IS.
>> Bokinni: YOU GET DIFFERENT
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VERSIONS OF PEOPLE IN IT, YOU
KNOW?
THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS IS NOT THE PERSON
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THAT YOU ARE IN-- IN REAL LIFE.
>> O'Donnell: BEFORE HE TOOK ON
TED LASSO, IN REAL LIFE, JASON
SUDEIKIS HAILED FROM KANSAS,
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JUST LIKE THE COACH HE NOW
PLAYS.
THERE HE WAS A COLLEGE THEATER
STAR, BUT JUST AS COMFORTABLE
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PLAYING POINT-GUARD ON THE
BASKETBALL TEAM.
HE SAYS RICHMOND IS PARTLY BASED
ON HIS OLD TEAM, THAT ALSO
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HAPPENED TO BE CALLED THE
GREYHOUNDS.
BILL HAD ONE OF THESE HANGING IN
HIS OFFICE HE POINTED OUT ON THE
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SET.
>> Sudeikis: DE MAAT, NAMED
AFTER MARTIN DE MAAT, AN IMPROV
TEACHER FROM SECOND CITY.
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>> O'Donnell: TED LASSO'S
WRITERS NAMED MEMBERS OF THE
TEAM AFTER FRIENDS, FAMILY
MEMBERS, AND FORMER MENTORS.
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>> Sudeikis: SASKIA MAAS IS ONE
OF THE OWNERS OF BOOM CHICAGO
WHERE BRENDAN, JOE AND I ALL
WORKED IN AMSTERDAM.
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>> ONE, TWO, THREE, GREYHOUNDS!
>> O'Donnell: IT'S HARD
SOMETIMES FOR ONE WORD TO
CAPTURE SO MANY THINGS, BUT FOR
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A LOT OF PEOPLE, THIS IS THE
ICONIC TED LASSO?
>> Sudeikis: YEAH.
>> O'Donnell: "BELIEVE."
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>> Sudeikis: I KNOW.
>> O'Donnell: BELIEVE IN
YOURSELF?
BELIEVE IN THE PEOPLE AROUND
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YOU?
>> Sudeikis: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
ABSOLUTELY.
BELIEVE IN THE-- IN THE PROCESS.
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>> O'Donnell: ONE OF THE SHOW'S
BREAKOUT STARS, BRETT GOLDSTEIN,
BELIEVED HE COULD PLAY ROY KENT.
>> Roy Kent: CHECK ON YOUR
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( BLEEP ) TEAMMATE!
>> O'Donnell: THE GRUFF, WASHED-
UP TOUGH GUY, WITH A HEART OF
GOLD.
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>> Goldstein: I LIKE BEING ROY
KENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN
HANDLE JUST BEING SOME LOSER
HAS-BEEN CALLED ROY.
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>> O'Donnell: TROUBLE WAS,
GOLDSTEIN WAS HIRED TO WRITE,
NOT ACT.
>> Goldstein: LAST TIME I SAW
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EYES THAT COLD THEY WERE GOING
HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH ROY SCHEIDER.
>> Goldstein: WHILE WE WERE
WRITING IT, ABOUT SOMEWHERE
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AROUND EPISODE FIVE I STARTED TO
THINK, I THINK ROY KENT IS
LIVING INSIDE ME.
>> O'Donnell: HOW DID BRETT
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GOLDSTEIN GO FROM WRITER TO
STAR?
>> Sudeikis: JUST FLAT-OUT SHOW
BIZ GUMPTION, YOU KNOW, HE JUST
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FELT A CONNECTION TO THE
CHARACTER.
AND SO, HE-- HE DID-- TAPED
HIMSELF, SENT IT TO BILL SAYING,
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"HEY, IF THIS IS GOOD, YOU KNOW,
GREAT.
IF IT'S NOT, WE NEVER NEED TO
TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN."
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( LAUGHS )
>> Hunt: THEY'RE LIKE, "BRETT
TURNED IN A ROY VIDEO."
"OH, DID HE?
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( LAUGHTER )
FIRE IT UP."
AND IMMEDIATELY WAS LIKE,
"BRETT'S ROY."
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IT WAS IMMEDIATE.
>> Goldstein: YOU ALL PLAY LIKE
A BUNCH OF LITTLE PRICKS!
YOU HEAR ME?
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>> YES, COACH!
>> Kelly: ROY'S VERY GRUFF, VERY
ANGRY, AND IT'S ALWAYS JARRING
WHEN YOU CALL BRETT AND HE
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ANSWERS THE PHONE, "HELLO?
( LAUGHTER )
HOW ARE YOU?
HOW ARE YOU, DEAR FRIEND?"
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HE'S THE SWEETEST MOST GENTLE
MAN.
>> Goldstein: HE'S A CAULDRON OF
EMOTION THAT HE DOESN'T WANT
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ANYONE TO KNOW ABOUT, WHO HAS
BEEN RAISED IN A CULTURE OF
ALMOST TOXIC MASCULINITY, TO BE
A ( BLEEP ) WALL.
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AND HE HAS ALL THESE FEELINGS
AND THESE EMOTIONS, BUT HE
CANNOT EXPRESS THEM ALL.
AND HE HAS TO KEEP THEM PENT UP,
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WHICH IS WHY HE TALKS LIKE HE
TALKS, 'CAUSE HE'S HOLDING IT
ALL IN.
IT'S LIKE A CORK.
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>> O'Donnell: A CORK--
>> Goldstein: IF HE PULLED IT
OUT HE'D CRY AND SING AND, YOU
KNOW, FLY OFF.
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>> Hannah Waddingham: YOU'RE
NEARLY 70 AND YOU'RE HAVING A
BABY, WHAT ARE YOU, A CHARACTER
FROM THE ( BLEEP ) BIBLE?
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>> O'Donnell: HANNAH WADDINGHAM,
WHO SPENT MUCH OF THE LAST 20
YEARS PERFORMING MUSICAL THEATER
IN LONDON'S WEST END, PLAYS TEAM
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OWNER, REBECCA WELTON.
WHY DO YOU THINK THE SHOW
RESONATED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE?
AND DOES IT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO
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WITH THE PANDEMIC?
>> Waddingham: I THINK IT DOES
AND IT DOESN'T.
PEOPLE ASSOCIATE IT WITH THE
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PANDEMIC TIME, OF COURSE,
BECAUSE IT WAS A MASSIVE HUG.
AND IT WAS A WAY OF EVERYONE
BLOCKING IT OUT.
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>> O'Donnell: THE SHOW WAS A
MASSIVE HUG.
>> Waddingham: YES.
>> O'Donnell: A HUG TO WHAT?
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>> Waddingham: TO PEOPLE.
TO HUMANITY.
IT'S-- IT'S-- I THINK IT'S WHAT
EVERYBODY NEEDED AT THE TIME.
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THEY NEEDED A HUG AND A REMINDER
TO BE KIND TO EACH OTHER.
A REMINDER TO INCLUDE EACH
OTHER.
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A REMINDER TO CHECK IN WITH EACH
OTHER, EVEN IF YOU THINK
SOMEONE'S GOT THEIR STUFF
TOGETHER, THEY HAVEN'T.
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I ALSO THINK THAT HAD THE
PANDEMIC NOT HAPPENED, IT WOULD
HAVE DONE EXACTLY THE SAME
THING, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING
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ABOUT OUR SHOW THAT REMINDS
EVERYONE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
BE CUTTING TO BE FUNNY.
YOU CAN BE WARM, AND FUNNY, AND
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KIND, AND GIVING, AND
SUPPORTIVE, AND ACCEPTING, AND
FUNNY.
>> O'Donnell: AND THAT'S WHAT
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MAKES "TED LASSO" DISTINCT.
>> Waddingham: YES.
( LAUGHTER )
> THANK YOU!
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>> O'Donnell: AT LAST YEAR'S
EMMYS, WADDINGHAM, GOLDSTEIN...
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH!
THANK YOU!
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>> O'Donnell: AND SUDEIKIS ALL
TOOK HOME TROPHIES FOR ACTING.
>> I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL.
>> O'Donnell: AND THE SHOW WON
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OUTSTANDING COMEDY SERIES.
>> RICHMOND WAS MORE OF A
CRICKET TOWN THAN A FOOTBALL
TOWN.
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>> O'Donnell: THE RICHMOND
GREYHOUNDS MAY BE A MAKE-BELIEVE
TEAM, BUT RICHMOND THE TOWN IS
100% REAL
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THIS IS THE REAL VERSION OF THE
SET.
>> Hunt: YEAH.
YOU KIND OF CAN'T FAKE RICHMOND,
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REALLY, YOU KNOW?
THIS BAR'S GREAT, WE BASICALLY
BUILT AN EXACT REPLICA.
>> O'Donnell: THIS IS NOT WHAT I
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EXPECTED TODAY.
THE DAY WE WERE THERE, SO WERE
FANS OF THE SHOW, INCLUDING A
YOUNG WOMAN WHO HAD TRAVELED
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FROM GERMANY AND HAD JUST GOTTEN
A TATTOO IN HONOR OF TED LASSO.
>> IT'S STILL IN THE ZIPLOC.
>> O'Donnell: AND IT READ, “BE
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CURIOUS, NOT JUDGMENTAL.”
I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY SPECIAL,
BEING OUT HERE?
AND--
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>> Sudeikis: YES.
>> O'Donnell: WE ALSO TOOK A
WALK ON THE FIELD WHERE THE
RICHMOND GREYHOUNDS SHOOT MOST
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OF THEIR SOCCER SCENES.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF GREAT.
YOUR PITCH IS RIGHT NEAR THE
STUDIO?
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>> Sudeikis: I KNOW.
IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
HAPPY ACCIDENT.
>> O'Donnell: IN TYPICAL
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MIDWESTERN FASHION, JASON
SUDEIKIS WAS NOT ENTIRELY
COMFORTABLE EXPLAINING THE
SHOW'S SUCCESS, NOR TAKING
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CREDIT FOR IT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGACY OF
"TED LASSO" IS DECADES FROM NOW?
>> Sudeikis: I DON'T KNOW.
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I HOPE, I HOPE, FOLKS KEEP
WATCHING IT.
A DECENT CHANCE IT'LL PAY FOR MY
KIDS' COLLEGE.
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( LAUGHS )
UNLESS I-- UNLESS I BLOW IT ALL.
>> O'Donnell: YOU DON'T THINK
IT'S ALREADY DONE THAT?
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>> Sudeikis: YOU DON'T THINK
I'VE ALREADY BLOWN IT?
( LAUGHTER )
( TICKING )
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( TICKING )
>> Whitaker: I'M BILL WHITAKER.
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH
ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MIN
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( TICKING )
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