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>> Pelley: THIS IS THE MAIN
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POLISH STATION WHERE FIVE TO TEN
TRAINS A DAY ESCAPE RUSSIA'S WAR
ON UKRAINE.
EACH ARRIVAL BRINGS 2,000 WOMEN
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AND CHILDREN COMPRESSED INTO
STANDING ROOM ONLY.
WE MET THE TRAINS AND HEARD THE
STORIES.
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>> ( translated ): THE RUSSIANS
ARE SAYING THEY'RE BOMBING ONLY
MILITARY BASES.
IT'S ALL A LIE.
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THEY'RE BOMBING CIVILIANS
THEY'RE KILLING CHILDREN.
( TICKING )
>> WE MAPPED TOGETHER THE CASES
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IN PURPLE.
>> WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF
THE PANDEMIC?
THE DIRECTOR OF THE C.D.C.
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SHOWED US HOW THEY ARE TRACKING
VARIANTS.
>> WE SEQUENCE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE
TO DETECT A NEW VARIANT WITH 99%
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CONFIDENCE.
>> LaPook: AND ARE YOU GETTING
ANY KIND OF A HINT THAT THERE'S
SOME NEW VARIANT OF CONCERN?
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>> NO.
NOT RIGHT NOW.
NOPE.
I MEAN, WE'RE TRACKING THINGS
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BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT APPEARS
TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT
OMICRON.
( TICKING )
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>> THREE, TWO, ONE...
>> JACOB SMITH DROPS INTO THE
BIG COULOIR-- A NARROW, ROCK-
WALLED, 1,400-FOOT CHUTE.
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THAT DOT IS HIM MAKING HIS WAY
TURN BY TURN.
A WRONG MOVE CAN BE
CATASTROPHIC.
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THE RUN HAS A 50 DEGREE SLOPE,
WHICH MEANS IF YOU SLIP DOWN THE
COULOIR, THERE'S LITTLE CHANCE
YOU CAN STOP YOURSELF.
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WE THOUGHT YOU SHOULD SEE THIS.
BECAUSE HE CANNOT.
JACOB IS LEGALLY BLIND.
( TICKING )
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>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
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>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.
THOSE STORIES, TONIGHT, ON
"60 MINUTES."
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( TICKING )
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>> Pelley: MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS
ARE FLEEING THE RUSSIAN INVASION
OF UKRAINE.
TODAY, A FAMILY WAS KILLED BY
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RUSSIAN SHELLING.
THE DEATHS WERE REPORTED BY A
"NEW YORK TIMES" PHOTOGRAPHER
WHO TWEETED AN IMAGE THAT
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FLASHED AROUND THE WORLD.
A WARNING, THE PICTURE IS
GRAPHIC.
PHOTOGRAPHER LYNSEY ADDARIO
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TWEETED, "AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS
OF A FAMILY OF FOUR WERE
KILLED."
IT WAS THE MOTHER AND SON AND
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DAUGHTER.
AT THE TIME ADDARIO WAS THERE,
UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS WERE TRYING
TO SAVE THE FATHER.
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ALSO, TONIGHT, A PENTAGON
OFFICIAL TELLS "60 MINUTES" THAT
RUSSIA'S ASSAULT ON THE CAPITAL
CITY, KYIV, IS STALLED BECAUSE
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OF FIERCE RESISTANCE AND BECAUSE
THE RUSSIANS ARE RUNNING SHORT
OF FOOD AND FUEL.
THEY EXPECTED KYIV TO CAPITULATE
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IN THREE TO FIVE DAYS.
THIS IS DAY 11.
ALSO, THE U.S. IS WORKING ON AN
EXCHANGE WHEREBY POLAND WOULD
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DONATE RUSSIAN-BUILT FIGHTER
JETS TO UKRAINE-- THE KIND THE
UKRAINIANS KNOW HOW TO FLY-- AND
THE U.S. WOULD REPLACE POLAND'S
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JETS WITH AMERICAN PLANES.
TODAY, THE UNITED NATIONS SAID
1.5 MILLION REFUGEES HAVE
ESCAPED.
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MANY ARE ON EVACUATION TRAINS
ARRIVING IN POLAND.
THE FIRST STOP IS A RAIL STATION
WITH 150 YEARS OF HISTORY.
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THE TRACKS AT PRZEMYSL BORE
INCONCEIVABLE LOSS IN THE 20th
CENTURY.
NOW, IN THE 21st, MISERY HAS
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ARRIVED AGAIN, UNSCHEDULED, ON
PLATFORM FOUR.
AT THE END OF 21 HOURS-- AFTER
450 MILES OF WAR-- SOMETHING
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THAT LOOKED LIKE HOPE SHINED
ATOP AN OLD ENGINE PULLING
FAMILIES ACROSS THE NEW BORDER
OF THE FREE WORLD.
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( brakes squeal )
THIS IS THE MAIN POLISH STATION
WHERE FIVE TO TEN TRAINS A DAY
ESCAPE THE WAR.
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ON EACH, 2,000 WOMEN AND
CHILDREN ARE COMPRESSED INTO
STANDING ROOM ONLY.
BEFORE THE DOORS CAN OPEN, THEY
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REACH FOR WATER LIFTED TO THE
WINDOWS.
THIS TRAIN FLED THE RUSSIAN ARMY
CLOSING IN ON THE SOUTHERN PORT
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CITY OF ODESSA.
AFTER A DAY AND A NIGHT FEARING
THAT THE TRAIN WOULD BE
ATTACKED, THEY DESCENDED INTO
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SAFETY ON PLATFORM NUMBER FOUR.
OVERCOME WITH GRATITUDE, ALESSA
TOLD US, "THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME
IN POLAND.
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WE COULD SEE PEOPLE WAIVING AND
GREETING US FROM THEIR HOMES,
IT'S WONDERFUL."
THAT WAS THE GREETING OF
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PRZEMYSL, POLAND-- A TOWN WITH A
THOUSAND YEARS OF HISTORY.
IT'S HAD MANY MASTERS, INCLUDING
RUSSIA.
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BUT TODAY, PRZEMYSL IS EIGHT
MILES FROM UKRAINE'S BORDER, THE
FIRST STOP ON THE FLIGHT TO
FREEDOM.
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>> Wojciech Bakun: THEY ARE IN
SAFE PLACE, THAT'S THE MAIN
THING.
>> Pelley: WOJCIECH BAKUN IS THE
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MAYOR.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY REFUGEES
HAVE COME TO YOUR TOWN AT THIS
POINT?
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>> Bakun: I THINK IT'S ABOUT
70,000 TO 80,000, MAYBE, MAYBE
MORE.
>> Pelley: HOW MANY CITIZENS DO
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YOU HAVE IN THIS CITY?
>> Bakun: 60,000, SO WE HAVE
NEARLY DOUBLE, NEARLY DOUBLE OUR
CITY.
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>> Pelley: BUT "DOUBLE" IS NOT A
BURDEN-- NOT YET.
THOSE WHO LEFT BEHIND HOMES,
HUSBANDS, CAREERS AND SCHOOLS
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ARE WELCOMED WITH SOUP, COFFEE,
COATS AGAINST THE GLOOMY 30
DEGREES, AND FREE PHONE CARDS TO
CONNECT WITH THE TROUBLE AT
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HOME.
ON ARRIVAL, THEY'RE FREE TO
TRAVEL ANYWHERE THEY WANT.
SOME REACH FOR FAMILY OR FRIENDS
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ALREADY LIVING OUTSIDE UKRAINE.
BUT, INSIDE THE PRZEMYSL
STATION, OPENED IN 1860, THOSE
WITH NO DESTINATION FILL EVERY
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HALL AND ROOM.
THEY REST ON ALL THEY HAVE LEFT
IN THE WORLD-- A LIGHT LOAD--
BUT FOR THE BURDEN OF MEMORY.
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>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
>> Pelley: "THERE WERE SO MANY
PEOPLE," MERSANNA TOLD US.
"SO MANY CHILDREN CRYING ALL THE
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TIME.
MY FAMILY SPENT FOUR NIGHTS IN A
BOMB SHELTER.
EVERYONE IS SO SCARED."
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WHAT SHOULD THE PEOPLE OF THE
WORLD KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN UKRAINE?
"THE RUSSIANS ARE SAYING THEY'RE
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BOMBING ONLY MILITARY BASES.
IT'S ALL A LIE.
THEY'RE BOMBING CIVILIANS
THEY'RE KILLING CHILDREN."
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>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
>> Pelley: IRINA TOLD US, "WE
CAME FROM KYIV, THEY'RE BOMBING
CIVILIANS THERE.
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MY SON IS IN THE MILITARY.
HE HAS KIDS AND THEY CAN'T
LEAVE."
THAT'S THE REASON NEARLY ALL THE
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REFUGEES ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
UKRAINE IS NOT ALLOWING MEN
BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 60 TO
LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
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WHAT DID YOU SEE IN KYIV?
"I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT, I'M
SORRY."
AND SO SHE PASSED OUR QUESTION
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TO HER 15-YEAR-OLD
GRANDDAUGHTER, NASTIA.
"WE HEARD LOTS OF EXPLOSIONS,
ROCKETS, AND SHELLING."
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HOW DID YOU GET AWAY?
>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
"WE TOOK THE FIRST TRAIN
AVAILABLE IT WAS FULL.
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THERE WAS NO PLACE TO MOVE.
THEY ANNOUNCED FOUR TIMES TO LIE
ON THE FLOOR AND COVER YOURSELF.
THEN THE TRAIN STOPPED AND THE
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LIGHTS WENT OUT.
THEY WARNED US ABOUT GUNFIRE."
UKRAINE HAS FOUGHT THE RUSSIANS
FIERCELY AND I WONDER WHAT YOU
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THINK OF THOSE WHO'VE BEEN LEFT
BEHIND, WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING?
>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
"OUR PEOPLE ARE VERY BRAVE.
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WE WILL WIN, GLORY TO UKRAINE."
BUT GLORY IS LIKELY TO BE
MEASURED NOT IN VICTORY BUT IN
HOW LONG DEFEAT CAN BE DELAYED.
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THIS WEEKEND, RUSSIAN TROOPS
ATTACKED IN THE NORTH, SOUTH,
AND EAST AND CAPTURED THE
LARGEST NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN
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EUROPE.
BUT WHAT BEGAN AS A BLITZ HAS
MIRED INTO A SIEGE.
THIS MILES-LONG COLUMN OF
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RUSSIAN FORCES STALLED FOR DAYS
OUTSIDE THE CAPITAL, KYIV.
THAT CITY OF THREE MILLION HAS
GONE UNDERGROUND.
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THERE ARE NO RELIABLE COUNTS OF
CAUSALITIES.
IN RUSSIA, VLADIMIR PUTIN LED
HIS PEOPLE INTO A NEW DARK AGE.
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ISOLATED LIKE A PATHOGEN, RUSSIA
WAS QUARANTINED FROM
TRANSPORTATION, BUSINESS, AND
MEDIA.
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FRIDAY, PUTIN MADE REPORTING ON
UKRAINE A CRIME WITH A PENALTY
OF 15 YEARS.
RUSSIA'S LAST INDEPENDENT MEDIA
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CLOSED.
>> THE RESULT OF THE VOTE IS...
>> Pelley: THURSDAY, AT THE
UNITED NATIONS, AN OVATION
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OVERWHELMED THE READING OF THE
WRITING ON THE WALL.
>> THE RESULT...
( APPLAUSE )
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>> Pelley: 141 NATIONS CONDEMNED
THE INVASION.
FOUR JOINED RUSSIA-- NORTH
KOREA, BELARUS, ERITREA, AND
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SYRIA-- WHAT COULD FAIRLY BE
CALLED THE ALLIANCE OF DESPOTS.
THE UNITED STATES AND NATO
ALLIES RUSHED ANTI-TANK AND
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ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES TO
UKRAINE WHILE, AT THE SAME TIME,
THE ALLIANCE SAID IT WOULD NOT
FIGHT ON THE GROUND OR IN THE
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AIR.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY THERE AREN'T
AT LEAST A FEW FRESH TROOPS ON
THE WAY.
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AT THE POLISH BORDER, WE FOUND
UKRAINIANS, LIVING OUTSIDE THE
COUNTRY, WHO WERE HEADED HOME TO
JOIN THE FIGHT.
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>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
>> Pelley: THIS MAN TOLD US,
"WE ARE GOING BACK BECAUSE OUR
COUNTRY IS IN DANGER."
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WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO THERE?
>> ( speaking Ukrainian )
"WE WILL DEFEND OUR LAND, AND
OUR FAMILIES."
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CAN YOU DEFEAT THE RUSSIANS?
YAROSLAV TOLD US, "WE SIMPLY
WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO TELL US
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HOW TO LIVE."
ALSO RETURNING WAS A MAN NAMED
SERGEI, WHO IS NOT THE TYPE TO
PART WITH MORE WORDS THAN HE HAS
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TO.
WHY ARE YOU HEADED BACK TO
UKRAINE?
"WE HAVE A WAR."
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WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE TO
GO BACK TO UKRAINE?
"IF NOT ME, WHO ELSE?"
I WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK IN THE
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WORLD.
NOW, LISTEN TO HIS TWO PARTING
WORDS.
>> SLAVA UKRAINI.
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>> Pelley: SLAVA UKRAINI, "GLORY
TO UKRAINE," IS A SPECIAL INSULT
TO RUSSIA.
THE SOVIETS ONCE BANNED THE
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PHRASE AND SO, MADE IT IMMORTAL.
>> Zelensky: SLAVA UKRAINI.
>> Pelley: IT'S THE PARTING SHOT
IN THE "NEVER GIVE IN" SELFIES
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OF THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT.
TOUGH MEN OF FEW WORDS ARE BEING
INSPIRED BY A LEADER WHO WAS
ONCE UKRAINE'S TOP COMEDIAN.
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BUT, THIS PAST WEEK, VOLODYMYR
ZELENSKY TURNED OUT TO BE MORE
CHURCHILL THAN CHAPLIN.
>> I AM REALLY SO, SO PROUD THAT
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WE HAVE THIS KIND OF PRESIDENT
THAT HE DIDN'T LEAVE US, HE'S
STAYING WITH HIS PEOPLE, HE'S
FIGHTING THERE.
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>> Pelley: WHEN WE MET OLGA
BILOUS, SHE'D BEEN WAITING TWO
DAYS FOR HER PARENTS TO BRING
HER 14-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER TO
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POLAND.
>> IT'S SO ENCOURAGING, AND IT
GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, INNER
STRENGTH, AND I'M SO HAPPY.
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>> Pelley: YOU'RE PROUD TO BE
UKRAINIAN.
>> I AM PROUD, I AM PROUD TO BE
UKRAINIAN, OF COURSE.
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>> Pelley: UKRAINE IS ABOUT THE
SIZE OF TEXAS WITH SOME OF THE
RICHEST SOIL ON EARTH AND 44
MILLION PEOPLE, BUT IT HAS NEVER
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KNOWN PEACE FOR LONG.
THESE FAMILIES ARE DESCENDANTS
OF MISERY.
IN 1933, MORE THAN THREE MILLION
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UKRAINIANS DIED IN A FAMINE
ENGINEERED BY STALIN.
THEN, FIVE MILLION WERE MURDERED
BY NAZIS.
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THE POLISH COMPASSION WE SAW ON
THE PLATFORMS MAY GROW FROM
SHARED EXPERIENCE.
NO ONE REALLY NOTICES ANYMORE,
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BUT OUTSIDE THE STATION WE SAW A
MODEST MEMORIAL TO A MONSTROUS
CRIME.
IT RECALLS WHEN MANY THOUSANDS
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OF POLES WERE PACKED INTO
FREIGHT CARS AT THE STATION, ON
THE ORDER OF STALIN, AND SHIPPED
TO SIBERIA.
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MAYBE EMPATHY IS WHY SO MANY
POLES TOOK TIME OFF TO
VOLUNTEER.
ELIASZ AND DANIEL DYROV ARE
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BROTHERS.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, REFUGEES FROM
WAR ARE ALMOST NEVER WELCOME IN
NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.
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AND I WONDER WHY POLAND IS DOING
THIS?
>> WE ARE FIRST TO HELP, AND WE
ARE WELCOME OUR UKRAINIAN
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BROTHERS.
AND WHEN I AM PRAYING TO GOD, I
AM GRATEFUL TO GOD, AND I SAY
THANK YOU GOD FOR GIVING ME THE
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OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THESE
PEOPLE.
>> THIS DISASTER BECOME TO BE
NOT ONLY A DISASTER IN UKRAINE,
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IT BECOMES TO BE A DISASTER OF
EUROPEAN CITIES BECAUSE ALL
THESE UKRAINE REFUGEES, THEY
NEED SHELTER, THEY NEED MEDICAL
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CARE, AND MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THANKS GOD, POLISH NATION
SUPPORT NOW THE UKRAINIAN
NATION.
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>> Pelley: KRZYS BUTRA IS A FIRE
FIGHTER TAKING SICK LEAVE.
HE HELPS LOAD SUPPLIES ONTO THE
TRAINS HEADING BACK TO UKRAINE.
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>> AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING BACK,
WE PUT THEM MEDICAL, WE PUT THEM
EVERYTHING WHAT WE HAVE, PUT
THEM TO THE TRAIN BECAUSE THEY
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DON'T HAVE ANY SHOPS.
THE DON'T HAVE... AND SOMETIMES
THEY DON'T HAVE EVEN TOWN
BECAUSE THE BOMBS COME AND THEY
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DON'T HAVE NOTHING.
>> Pelley: SO THE TRAINS GO BACK
WITH FOOD AND SUPPLIES?
MEDICAL SUPPLIES?
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>> YES, YES.
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING.
>> Pelley: "EVERYTHING,"
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INCLUDING THESE UKRAINIAN MEN
HEADED TO THE TRAIN PLATFORM,
WHO, LIKE THE ONES WE MET AT THE
BORDER, ARE GOING HOME TO FIGHT.
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LATE LAST WEEK, THE EUROPEAN
UNION GRANTED REFUGEES BLANKET
PERMISSION TO SETTLE IN ANY OF
THE 27 E.U. NATIONS FOR UP TO
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THREE YEARS.
THOSE CROWDING PRZEMYSL ARE
ALREADY MOVING ON TO SHELTERS IN
CITIES FARTHER DOWN THE LINE.
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MAJOR WOJCIECH BAKUN TOLD US
POLAND IS MAKING ROOM FOR
ANOTHER HISTORIC CATASTROPHE.
>> Pelley: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
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PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE TO GO?
>> Bakun: OH, WE PREPARE LOT OF
PLACES.
I THINK IN POLAND WE HAVE ABOUT
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TWO MILLION PLACES WHERE EVERY
PERSON CAN STAY FOR LONG TIME,
NOT FOR A FEW DAYS, FOR LONG
TIME, FOR MONTHS OR IF HE OR SHE
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NEEDS, FOR YEARS.
>> Pelley: TWO MILLION IS HALF
THE REFUGEES THE UNITED NATIONS
PREDICTS.
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FOUR MILLION WOULD MAKE THIS
EUROPE'S WORST HUMANITARIAN
DISASTER SINCE WORLD WAR II.
IN AN EXODUS WITHOUT TIMETABLES,
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HOW LONG UKRAINIANS WILL HAVE TO
ENDURE ISN'T KNOWN.
THEIRS IS A FUTURE THEY CANNOT
SEE.
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ONLY ONE THING IS CERTAIN:
ON PLATFORM FOUR, ANOTHER TRAIN
IS COMING.
( TICKING )
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>> MORE ON THE ARDUOUS JOURNEY
TO FLEE UKRAINE...
>> Pelley: WHAT WAS YOUR JOURNEY
LIKE?
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>> Dr. Jon LaPook: I HIS STATE
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OF THE UNION ADDRESS ON TUESDAY,
PRESIDENT BIDEN STRUCK A
CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC NOTE ABOUT
THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AS IT
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ENTERS ITS THIRD YEAR.
THE WHITE HOUSE FOLLOWED UP WITH
A DETAILED STRATEGY FOR THE
PANDEMIC'S NEXT PHASE, INCLUDING
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VACCINATING HERE AND ABROAD,
TESTING, ANTIVIRAL TREATMENTS,
IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF INDOOR
AIR, EXPANDING THE NATION'S
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CAPACITY TO TRACK AND TREAT NEW
VARIANTS AND SUPPORTING PEOPLE
WITH LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES OF
COVID.
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THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL
HAS ALSO ISSUED NEW GUIDELINES
SUGGESTING MOST AMERICANS CAN
TAKE OFF THEIR MASKS.
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WE SET OUT, IN THE WAKE OF THE
STATE OF THE UNION, TO ASSESS
THE STATE OF THE PANDEMIC WITH
SOME OF THE COUNTRY'S FOREMOST
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RESEARCHERS, BOTH AT THE CENTERS
FOR DISEASE CONTROL IN ATLANTA
AND AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
PITTSBURGH MEDICAL CENTER.
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THAT'S WHERE VIROLOGIST PAUL
DUPREX ALERTED "60 MINUTES" LAST
YEAR ABOUT THE DANGERS OF
CORONAVIRUS VARIANTS, WELL
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BEFORE DELTA AND OMICRON
BATTERED THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT ONE YEAR SINCE
WE LAST SPOKE FOR "60 MINUTES."
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IS THE PANDEMIC OVER?
>> Paul Duprex: THE PANDEMIC IS
NOT OVER.
BUT WE'RE IN A VERY DIFFERENT
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PLACE TODAY THAN WE WERE ONE
YEAR AGO.
>> LaPook: HOW SO?
>> Duprex: THERE HAVE BEEN
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MULTIPLE MORE VARIANTS.
BUT WE'RE MOVING IN A DIRECTION
WHERE THERE ARE NOT AS MANY
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOSPITAL
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BECAUSE OF THE DISEASE.
AND WE'VE GOT MANY MORE PEOPLE
VACCINATED.
AND WE UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT
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FIRST SHOTS, SECOND SHOTS, AND
NOW BOOSTERS.
SO, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
LANDSCAPE.
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>> LaPook: DUPREX, BORN IN
NORTHERN IRELAND, IS HEAD OF THE
CENTER FOR VACCINE RESEARCH AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH
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MEDICAL CENTER.
HE'S HOPEFUL THE VIRUS WILL
CONTINUE TO MUTATE INTO A MILDER
FORM.
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IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE
CORONAVIRUSES THAT NOW CAUSE THE
COMMON COLD LONG AGO BEGAN AS
FIERCELY, AS DANGEROUS, AS
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DEADLY AS SARS-COV-2 AND THAT,
OVER TIME, IT BECAME WEAKER AND
WEAKER?
NOW WE HAVE THE COMMON COLD?
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>> Duprex: OH, I WOULD SAY IT'S
MORE THAN POSSIBLE.
I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY LIKELY.
BUT WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
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WHERE THE VIRUS ENDS UP,
AND THAT'S JUST GOOD SCIENCE.
SCIENTISTS FOLLOW THE VIRUS,
KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON IT, AND WE
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UNDERSTAND HOW THAT VIRUS
CHANGES OVER TIME AND WHERE IT
WILL GO.
>> LaPook: KEEPING A CLOSE EYE
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ON THE VIRUS, AT THE CENTERS FOR
DISEASE CONTROL, IS DIRECTOR DR.
ROCHELLE WALENSKY, THE FORMER
CHIEF OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES AT
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HARVARD-AFFILIATED MASSACHUSETTS
GENERAL HOSPITAL.
SHE WAS TAPPED BY PRESIDENT
BIDEN TO LEAD AN AGENCY
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STRUGGLING TO COMMUNICATE
EFFECTIVELY WITH THE PUBLIC.
THIS PAST WEEK, DR. WALENSKY
TOOK US BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE
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AGENCY THAT'S BEEN FIGHTING
INFECTIOUS DISEASES SINCE IT WAS
FORMED IN THE 1940'S TO COMBAT
MALARIA.
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>> Rochelle Walensky: SO HERE WE
ARE IN OUR GENOMIC SEQUENCING
LAB.
>> LaPook: THIS IS THE FIRST
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TIME YOU'VE ALLOWED A FILM CREW
BACK HERE?
>> Justin Lee: THAT IS ACCURATE.
>> LaPook: JUSTIN LEE LEADS THE
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GENOMIC SEQUENCING LABORATORY
AND SHOWED US HOW POSITIVE COVID
TEST SAMPLES FROM ALL OVER THE
WORLD ARE PROCESSED SO GENETIC
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INFORMATION CAN BE EXTRACTED AND
ANALYZED IN THIS SEQUENCER TO
LOOK FOR NEW VARIANTS OF THE
VIRUS.
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MONITORS SHOW AND TELL SHOWING
VARIANT C.D.C. IS TRACKING
>> Lee: THIS WAS OUR MOST RECENT
SEQUENCING RUN.
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EACH SQUARE REPRESENTS ONE
PERSON'S COVID TEST SAMPLE.
>> LaPook: AND ABOUT WHAT
PERCENTAGE ARE OMICRON?
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>> Lee: FROM THE U.S. SAMPLES
THAT ARE COLLECTED RECENTLY, 99%
ARE OMICRON.
>> LaPook: WOW.
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SO OUT OF 96 WELLS, ONLY ONE OF
THEM IS YELLOW?
ONLY ONE IS DELTA?
>> Lee: ONLY ONE IS DELTA.
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>> LaPook: SINCE FIRST BEING
IDENTIFIED IN THE UNITED STATES
JUST THREE MONTHS AGO, OMICRON
AND ITS SUB-VARIANTS HAVE ALMOST
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ENTIRELY REPLACED THE DELTA
VARIANT, WHICH HAD CAUSED MORE
SEVERE DISEASE.
EARLIER IN THE PANDEMIC, THE
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C.D.C. WAS LAGGING BEHIND IN
GENETIC SEQUENCING.
NOW HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN EMERGENCY FUNDING
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HAVE HELPED CREATE A NATIONWIDE
EARLY DETECTION SYSTEM.
>> Walensky: WE WANT TO BE ABLE
TO DETECT ABOUT 0.1% OF ANY NEW
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VARIANT IF IT COMES INTO THIS
COUNTRY WITH 99% CERTAINTY.
>> LaPook: AND ARE YOU GETTING
ANY KIND OF A HINT THAT THERE'S
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SOME NEW VARIANT OF CONCERN?
>> Lee: NO.
NOT RIGHT NOW.
NOPE.
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I MEAN, WE'RE TRACKING THINGS
BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT APPEARS
TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT
OMICRON.
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>> Walensky: WE BREATHE A HEAVY
SIGH OF RELIEF WHEN WE DON'T SEE
ANYTHING.
>> LaPook: BUT NO THREAT IS TOO
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SMALL.
IN THIS COVID-19 BRIEFING, WE
WITNESSED DR. WALENSKY ASK STAFF
FOR AN UPDATE ON WHAT SOME ARE
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NICKNAMING “DELTACRON," A
GENETIC HYBRID OF THE DELTA AND
OMICRON VARIANTS.
IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUND RARELY IN
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THE U.S. AND DR. WALENSKY SAYS
THE C.D.C. DOES NOT CONSIDER IT
A THREAT AT THIS TIME.
>> Walensky: ANYTHING MORE ON
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DELTACRON?
>> Dr. Mahon: NO.
I MEAN, IT'S OUT THERE.
>> Walensky: BUT WE'RE STILL IN
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THE, LIKE, HANDFUL OF CASES, NOT
IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
CASES.
OKAY.
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>> Mahon: YES, YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH.
>> LaPook: RECENTLY, NEWS ABOUT
THE PANDEMIC IN THE UNITED
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STATES HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING.
HOSPITALIZATIONS, CASES, AND
DEATHS ARE DROPPING, AND
EFFECTIVE ANTIVIRAL TREATMENTS
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ARE BECOMING MUCH MORE AVAILABLE
FOR THOSE WHO DO GET SICK.
DR. WALENSKY HAS ANNOUNCED A NEW
SET OF GUIDELINES, MEANING,
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RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 90% OF
AMERICANS CAN CHOOSE TO DROP
THEIR MASKS.
YOU HEAR THE WORD "ENDEMIC" A
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LOT.
>> Walensky: UM...
>> LaPook: WHAT EXACTLY DOES
THAT MEAN?
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>> Walensky: YOU'RE AT A STEADY
STATE.
YOUR PANDEMIC OR YOUR DISEASE IS
NEITHER INCREASING NOR
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DECREASING.
>> LaPook: SO WILL THERE BE A
MOMENT WHERE IT'S AT SUCH A LOW
LEVEL THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S
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STILL ON EVERY CONTINENT, SAY,
WE'RE NOT CALLING IT A PANDEMIC
ANYMORE?
>> Walensky: I THINK WE'LL GET
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THERE.
YOU KNOW I DO THINK THAT WE WILL
GET TO A PLACE WITH THIS DISEASE
WHERE WE LIVE WITH A RELATIVELY
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LOW LEVEL ALL YEAR LONG AND THAT
MAYBE WE HAVE SOME SURGES DURING
RESPIRATORY VIRUS SEASON.
THOSE SURGES ARE ANNOYING AND
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FOR SOME, THEY WILL LIKELY BE
TRAGIC.
BUT THEY ARE NOT TO THE TUNE OF
TWO AND 3,000 DEATHS A DAY.
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I THINK WE LIVE THAT WAY WITH
INFLUENZA.
>> LaPook: DR. WALENSKY HAS
LEARNED TO BE CAUTIOUS AFTER
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TELLING FULLY VACCINATED
AMERICANS BACK IN MAY 2021 THEY
COULD TAKE OFF THEIR
MASKS.
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>> Walensky: ONCE YOU ARE FULLY
VACCINATED, TWO WEEKS AFTER YOUR
LAST DOSE, YOU CAN SHED YOUR
MASK.
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>> LaPook: BUT THE PARTY ONLY
LASTED A FEW MONTHS.
NEW C.D.C. RESEARCH DURING A
SURGE OF THE DELTA VARIANT
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FORCED HER TO TELL THE COUNTRY
THAT MASKS SHOULD GO BACK ON.
>> Walensky: I WILL NEVER FORGET
THE GUT PUNCH ON THAT FRIDAY
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NIGHT WHEN I FIRST SAW THE DATA
OUT OF BARNSTABLE COUNTY,
MASSACHUSETTS, THAT DEMONSTRATED
THAT THERE WERE VACCINATED
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PEOPLE THAT WERE TRANSMITTING IT
TO OTHER PEOPLE.
WE SAID, "WE HAVE TO PUT OUR
MASKS BACK ON."
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>> LaPook: DO YOU THINK
COMMUNICATING, "WE DON'T KNOW,"
WAS DONE WELL ENOUGH TO THE
PUBLIC FROM THE VERY BEGINNING?
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>> Walensky: YOU KNOW...
( SIGH )
>> LaPook: OR, “IT MAY CHANGE.”
>> Walensky: THERE WERE SO MANY
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TIMES WHERE WE WERE OPTIMISTIC.
THERE WERE SO MANY TIMES WHERE
WE DIDN'T KNOW.
AND SINCE MY GETTING HERE WHAT I
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SAID IS, “WE'RE GOING TO LEAD
WITH THE SCIENCE.”
THE IMPLICATION WAS THAT SCIENCE
WAS BLACK AND WHITE, AND IN
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FACT, IN AN EVER-EVOLVING VIRUS,
AND A TWO-YEAR-LONG PANDEMIC,
THE SCIENCE ISN'T ALWAYS BLACK
AND WHITE.
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IT'S-- IT'S OFTENTIMES SHADES OF
GRAY.
>> LaPook: BUT FROM THE POINT OF
VIEW OF THE TAXICAB DRIVER WHO
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DROVE ME HERE A COUPLE DAYS AGO,
HE REMEMBERS IT AS, "THEY TOLD
US YOU COULD TAKE YOUR MASK OFF
AND THEN THEY CHANGED THEIR
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MIND."
>> Walensky: RIGHT.
>> LaPook: ONE RECENT POLL
SHOWED THAT LESS THAN HALF THE
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AMERICAN PUBLIC TRUSTS THE
C.D.C. WHEN IT COMES TO ADVICE
ABOUT THE VIRUS.
DO YOU TAKE IT PERSONALLY?
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>> Walensky: I CERTAINLY DON'T
LOVE TO SEE STATISTICS LIKE
THAT.
BUT I THINK THEY WILL GET BETTER
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AS WE EMERGE FROM THIS PANDEMIC.
>> LaPook: DURING HER 13 MONTHS
ON THE JOB, DR. WALENSKY HAS
BEEN ON A MISSION TO IMPROVE
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PUBLIC TRUST IN THE AGENCY.
SHE'S DONE MORE THAN 90 PRESS
CONFERENCES AND HUNDREDS OF
INTERVIEWS.
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SHE TOLD US SHE WANTS AMERICANS
TO KNOW THE CRUCIAL WORK THE
C.D.C.'S 13,000 SCIENTISTS,
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, AND
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PUBLIC HEALTH WORKERS DO AROUND
THE WORLD.
>> Walensky: DO THEY KNOW THAT
WE DELIVER ANTIRETROVIRAL
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THERAPY TO 12 MILLION PEOPLE
AROUND THE WORLD EVERY YEAR?
>> LaPook: WITH AIDS?
>> Walensky: WITH AIDS.
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NO.
DO THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING
TO ERADICATE POLIO?
DO THEY KNOW THAT WHEN SOMEBODY
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GETS SICK WITH SALMONELLA, THAT
WE LOOK FOR THE SOURCE?
DO THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU KNOW, OPIOID
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STATISTICS IN THE COUNTRY?
>> LaPook: DR. WALENSKY TOOK US
INTO THE C.D.C.'S EMERGENCY
OPERATIONS CENTER, A COMMAND
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POST NORMALLY PACKED DURING
DISEASE OUTBREAKS.
I HEAR PHRASES LIKE "COMMAND
CENTER," "DEPLOYMENTS,"
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"TASK FORCES."
IT'S KIND OF GOT A MILITARY
SOUND TO IT.
IT FEELS LIKE IT'S WAR.
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>> Walensky: WE HAVE TO ACT LIKE
THIS IS WAR.
WE ARE AT WAR AGAINST THIS
VIRUS.
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>> LaPook: A TOP PRIORITY HAS
BEEN IMPROVING THE COLLECTION
AND ANALYSIS OF DATA.
DR. WALENSKY SHOWED US HOW, AT
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THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC,
FEWER THAN 200 HOSPITALS,
CLINICS, AND DOCTORS' OFFICES
COULD SEND AUTOMATED INFORMATION
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ON THINGS LIKE DIAGNOSES,
OUTCOMES, AND IMMUNIZATIONS.
HOW COULD YOU DO YOUR WORK WITH
SO LITTLE DATA?
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>> Walensky: BOY, DID WE HAVE TO
WORK HARD TO PUT THE PEDAL TO
THE METAL AND CREATE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE.
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WE'VE BUILT THAT IN THE LAST
YEAR.
SO WE NOW HAVE IN DECEMBER OF
2020, WE HAD 6,500 FACILITIES.
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AND END OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD
OVER 10,000 FACILITIES, AND WE
HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.
>> LaPook: DR. WALENSKY SAYS
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THEY CAN NOW BETTER USE DATA TO
GAIN INSIGHT INTO THINGS LIKE
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
VACCINATIONS.
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>> Walensky: HERE WE'RE LOOKING
AT DEATHS.
AND WE CAN MAP IT TOWARDS THE
UNVACCINATED VERSUS IN THE
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PEOPLE WHO'VE RECEIVED TWO DOSES
OF A VACCINE, VERSUS PEOPLE
WHO'VE BEEN BOOSTED.
AND SO YOU SEE THIS MASSIVE
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VACCINATED
AND UNVACCINATED.
>> LaPook: IT'S KIND OF
STUNNING.
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>> Walensky: IT IS STUNNING.
41 TIMES THE RISK OF DYING FROM
COVID-19 IN DECEMBER OF 2021 IF
YOU ARE UNVACCINATED COMPARED TO
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IF YOU ARE BOOSTED.
>> LaPook: VIROLOGIST PAUL
DUPREX USED THIS ANIMATION TO
SHOW HOW THE BODY CREATES MORE
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AND MORE IMMUNE CELLS WITH EACH
SHOT OF VACCINE.
THAT'S WHY ALMOST EVERY
IMMUNIZATION WE GET, LIKE
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MEASLES AND POLIO, TAKES MORE
THAN ONE DOSE TO BE LONG-
LASTING.
>> Duprex: THERE ARE LYMPH NODES
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ALL ACROSS THE BODY.
WHEN WE GET IMMUNIZED, THE
VACCINE IS TAKEN UP BY THE LYMPH
NODES IN THE ARMPIT.
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THESE WHITE CELLS ARE PRODUCED.
THESE WHITE MEMORY CELLS PATROL
THE BODY.
AND WHENEVER THE SECOND
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IMMUNIZATION OCCURS, THEY
REMEMBER.
THEY EXPLODE IN THE LYMPH NODES.
AND THOSE MEMORY CELLS ARE ABLE
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TO PRODUCE ANTIBODIES BUT
THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO RECOGNIZE
INFECTED CELLS AND TAKE THOSE
CELLS OUT REALLY QUICKLY, BEFORE
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THOSE CELLS START PRODUCING MORE
VIRUS IN THE BODY.
>> LaPook: SO MONTHS OR EVEN
YEARS AFTER A VACCINATION THESE
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MEMORY CELLS MAY BE THERE KIND
OF ASLEEP.
>> Duprex: BUT WITH ONE CLICK OF
AN INFECTION, THEY WAKE UP AND
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THEY EXPLODE INTO ACTION.
>> LaPook: AND WITH EACH
VACCINATION, THE AMOUNT OF
IMMUNITY GOES UP?
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>> Duprex: YES.
YOU CAN THINK OF IT LIKE A
STAIRCASE.
THE FIRST VACCINATION, WE'RE UP
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ONE STEP.
THE SECOND VACCINATION, MAYBE WE
GET TO THE THIRD STEP.
AND THE BOOST, WE'RE UP AT STEP
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TEN.
SO WE GET THIS REALLY FASTER,
MORE ROBUST RESPONSE AS WE
VACCINATE ONCE, TWICE, AND THEN
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BOOST.
>> LaPook: THE C.D.C. SAYS
RESEARCH IS ONGOING TO DETERMINE
IF, DOWN THE LINE, PERIODIC
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COVID-19 IMMUNIZATIONS WILL BE
NEEDED, JUST LIKE THE ANNUAL FLU
SHOT.
THE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES WERE
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DEVELOPED SO QUICKLY BECAUSE
SCIENTISTS AT THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTES OF HEALTH AND
ELSEWHERE HAD ALREADY DONE THE
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RESEARCH NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND
CORONAVIRUS'S MOLECULAR
STRUCTURE.
LAST FALL, THE N.I.H. ASKED PAUL
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DUPREX TO JOIN A TEAM TO STUDY
OTHER VIRUSES THAT CAN HARM
HUMANS.
SO KIND OF A MOST WANTED LIST?
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>> Duprex: SOME OF THE MOST
DEADLY AGENTS ARE REPRESENTED
HERE.
>> LaPook: THE N.I.H. HAS
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PRIORITIZED THESE SEVEN VIRAL
FAMILIES THAT CAUSE POTENTIALLY
LETHAL ILLNESSES LIKE EBOLA,
LASSA FEVER, AND ENCEPHALITIS.
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DUPREX SAYS MORE TRANSMISSIBLE
VIRUSES EMERGING FROM ANY OF
THESE FAMILIES COULD UNLEASH
ANOTHER GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
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WHAT ARE SCIENTISTS DOING IN THE
LAB TODAY?
>> Duprex: LOOKING AT THE THREE-
DIMENSIONAL STRUCTURE OF THESE,
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pUNDERSTANDING THE GENETICS,
UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY EVOLVE,
HOW QUICKLY THEY CHANGE.
BY UNDERSTANDING THE VIRUSES
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WE'RE READY TO FIGHT THEM
WHENEVER THEY COME ALONG AND
CAUSE TROUBLE.
>> LaPook: LIKE SO MANY
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AMERICANS, DR. ROCHELLE WALENSKY
IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A NEW
PHASE IN THE PANDEMIC.
BUT AS WE HEAD TOWARDS WHAT MAY
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BE THE OFF-RAMP OF THE PANDEMIC,
SHE TOLD US SHE IS TAKING
NOTHING FOR GRANTED.
THE COUNTRY IS WAKING UP.
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>> Walensky: YEAH.
>> LaPook: DOES IT EXCITE YOU OR
SCARE YOU?
>> Walensky: WE'RE TIP-TOEING
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BACK INTO IT.
AND HOW ENERGIZING AND EXCITING
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW?
AND YET, WE'VE BEEN HIT WITH SO
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MANY CURVE BALLS, RIGHT?
AND SO MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC AGAINST THOSE CURVE
BALLS.
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AND SO WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW,
VIGILANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
CURVE BALLS DON'T COME.
( TICKING )
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>> Sharyn Alfonsi: IN THE WORLD
OF SKIING, THERE ARE TWO KINDS
OF SKIERS-- THOSE WHO LIKE TO
STAY ON GROOMED RUNS AND BE
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GUIDED GENTLY AROUND OBSTACLES,
AND THOSE WHO LIKE TO SKI THE
WHOLE MOUNTAIN, AND SKI TOWARDS
THE OBSTACLES.
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THAT IS CALLED FREERIDING.
MAN-MADE JUMPS, RAILS, AND
HALF-PIPES ARE REJECTED, IN
FAVOR OF THE DROPS, JAGGED
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CLIFFS, AND DEEP CHUTES CREATED
BY MOTHER NATURE.
THE SPORT OF FREERIDING TOOK OFF
IN THE 1990s, AND IS NOW ONE OF
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THE FASTEST GROWING DISCIPLINES
IN SKIING.
GIVEN THE RISKS INHERENT WITH
THE TERRAIN, IT ATTRACTS SOME OF
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THE BRAVEST AND MOST ADVENTUROUS
SKIERS IN THE WORLD.
BUT EVEN AMONG THAT GROUP,
15-YEAR-OLD JACOB SMITH
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STANDS OUT.
WE THOUGHT YOU SHOULD SEE
WHAT HE DOES--
BECAUSE HE CANNOT.
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THIS IS BIG SKY, MONTANA, HOME
TO SOME OF THE STEEPEST AND
MOST CHALLENGING SKI SLOPES IN
THE COUNTRY.
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AND THAT IS JACOB SMITH, WHO IS
BLIND.
THREE YEARS AGO, HE WAS JUST
12 YEARS OLD, AS HE MADE HIS WAY
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TO THE TOP OF THE 11,000-FOOT
HIGH LONE PEAK, TO SKI DOWN IT.
WATCH THIS.
>> Jacob Smith: DROPPING, IN
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THREE, TWO, ONE.
>> Alfonsi: JACOB DROPS INTO
THE BIG COULOIR-- A NARROW,
ROCK-WALLED, 1,400-FOOT CHUTE.
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THAT DOT IS HIM, MAKING HIS WAY
TURN BY TURN.
A WRONG MOVE CAN BE
CATASTROPHIC.
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THE RUN HAS A 50-DEGREE SLOPE,
WHICH MEANS IF YOU SLIP DOWN THE
COULOIR, THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE
YOU CAN STOP YOURSELF.
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>> Jacob Smith: WHEN YOU'RE
STANDING AT THE TOP, YOU
FEEL LIKE, IF YOU MOVE, YOU'RE
GOING TO DIE.
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>> Alfonsi: AND THAT'S THE
MOMENT MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
MAYBE NOT A GOOD IDEA."
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>> Jacob Smith: YEAH, BUT
I'M KIND OF JUST, LIKE,
"WELL, I'M ALREADY UP HERE.
SO I'VE GOT TO MAKE IT DOWN
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SOMEHOW."
>> Alfonsi: HE DID-- AND BECAME
THE ONLY LEGALLY-BLIND ATHLETE
TO SKI THE LEGENDARY RUN.
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>> Nathan Smith: WAY TO GO,
JACOB, YOU DID IT!
>> Jacob Smith: THAT WAS
AWESOME!
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>> Preston Smith: HISTORY JUST
HAS BEEN MADE.
>> Nathan Smith: FOREVER.
>> Alfonsi: HOW DID YOU FEEL
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WHEN YOU MADE IT TO THE BOTTOM?
>> Jacob Smith: EXCITED THAT I
DID IT.
I DIDN'T CRASH.
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I THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME.
AND THEN-- I GUESS WE MADE IT
FOUR MORE TIMES, SO I JUST
WANTED TO DO IT AGAIN.
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>> Alfonsi: YOU WERE TESTING
YOUR LUCK THAT DAY.
>> Jacob Smith: YEAH.
>> Announcer: AND WE GOT JACOB
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SMITH ON COURSE.
>> Alfonsi: JACOB IS STILL
TESTING HIS LUCK-- AND
GOOD SENSE.
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WE MET HIM IN JANUARY AT A
JUNIOR REGIONAL FREERIDE
TOURNAMENT IN BIG SKY.
THAT'S HIM, NOW 15 YEARS OLD,
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COMPETING AGAINST 40 OTHER
TEENAGE DAREDEVILS, ALL OF WHOM
CAN SEE PERFECTLY WELL.
>> Announcer: COMING RIGHT OFF
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THE TOP OF THAT.
FINDING PRETTY GOOD LANDING.
>> Alfonsi: THIS TIME, THE
BACKGROUND FOR ALL OF THE
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COMPETITORS' SPECTACULAR
EXPERIMENT WITH GRAVITY WAS
ANOTHER TRIPLE DIAMOND CHUTE,
APPROPRIATELY NAMED D.T.M.
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>> Alfonsi: D.T.M. STANDS FOR?
>> Jacob Smith: DON'T TELL MAMA.
( LAUGHS )
>> Alfonsi: IT IS AN INSANE RUN.
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LIKE, A 45-DEGREE SLOPE.
>> Jacob Smith: YEAH.
>> Alfonsi: DO THE JUDGES GIVE
YOU ANY SLACK FOR BEING BLIND?
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>> Jacob Smith: NO.
ZERO.
>> Alfonsi: DO YOU THINK THEY
SHOULD?
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>> Jacob Smith: NO, I DON'T.
I WANT TO BE TREATED NORMAL, SO
I COMPETE WITH OTHER SIGHTED
SKIERS.
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>> Alfonsi: IT'S NOT AN
INSIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
WE WORKED WITH HIS DOCTORS,
AND OUR GRAPHIC ARTIST, TO
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SHOW ROUGHLY WHAT JACOB CAN SEE
ON A RUN.
HE HAS EXTREME TUNNEL VISION,
AND NO DEPTH PERCEPTION ON
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TOP OF THAT-- IT'S BLURRY.
HIS VISUAL ACUITY IS RATED
20/800, FOUR TIMES THE LEVEL OF
LEGAL BLINDNESS.
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THINK OF THE BIG "E" ON THE
EYE CHART-- HE WOULD NEED IT TO
BE BLOWN UP FOUR TIMES IN ORDER
TO SEE IT FROM 20 FEET AWAY.
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>> Announcer: FANTASTIC SKI
TECHNIQUE.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL
HE'S VISUALLY IMPAIRED.
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>> Alfonsi: SO HOW DOES JACOB
SKI LIKE THIS?
HIS FAMILY KEEPS HIM ON COURSE.
>> Preston Smith: GO UP WITH
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YOUR RIGHT SKI, REALLY FAR.
>> Alfonsi: ON COMPETITION DAYS,
HIS LITTLE BROTHER, PRESTON,
PATIENTLY HELPS HIM HIKE TO THE
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TOP OF THE VENUE.
IT'S SO HIGH, THE LIFTS WON'T
TAKE YOU THERE.
>> Nathan Smith: FIRST, DOWN,
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DOWN-- PERFECT.
PERFECT.
KEEP GOING.
YOU'RE IN THE--
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>> Alfonsi: THEN, HIS FATHER,
NATHAN, HELPS HIM GET DOWN.
>> Nathan Smith: NICE TURNS.
NICE TURNS.
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>> Alfonsi: JACOB HAS A
TWO-WAY RADIO TURNED UP HIGH IN
HIS POCKET.
HIS DAD IS ON THE OTHER END,
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AT THE BASE, SOMEHOW, CALMLY,
GUIDING HIM DOWN.
>> Nathan Smith: OKAY, RIGHT,
RIGHT, RIGHT.
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THERE YOU GO.
IT'S ON ME TO MAKE SURE I DON'T
LET HIM DOWN, THAT I GET HIM IN
TROUBLE, YOU KNOW, THAT I--
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I HAVE TO GUIDE HIM THROUGH
NARROWER CHUTES, OR NOT GO OFF A
CLIFF.
>> Alfonsi: YOU HAVE TO BE HIS
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EYES.
>> Nathan Smith: YEAH.
>> Alfonsi: AND THERE CAN'T BE A
DELAY?
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HE CAN'T SAY, "ARE YOU SURE,
DAD?"
>> Nathan Smith: NO.
>> Alfonsi: HAVE YOU EVER MISSED
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IT?
HAVE YOU EVER SAID, "OH, GOSH, I
FORGOT TO TELL HIM ABOUT THAT,"
OR, "I DIDN'T SEE THAT"?
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>> Nathan Smith: OH, YEAH, ALL
THE TIME.
BUT HIS ADAPTATION IS PRETTY
AMAZING.
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>> Alfonsi: HOW MUCH DO YOU
TRUST HIM?
>> Jacob Smith: I MEAN,
ENOUGH TO TURN RIGHT WHEN HE
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TELLS ME TO.
( LAUGHTER )
>> Andrew Smith: JACOB'S JUST
PUTTING HIS ALL INTO MY DAD'S
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VOICE.
IT'S CRAZY, SKIING, JUST
LISTENING TO SOMEONE, "TURN
THERE, TURN THERE."
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>> Alfonsi: COULD YOU SKI LIKE
THAT?
>> Andrew Smith: IT'S LIKE
CLOSING YOUR EYES, BASICALLY.
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IT WOULD BE SO HARD.
>> Alfonsi: JACOB'S SIBLINGS ARE
ALL COMPETITIVE SKIERS.
THAT'S ANDREW, WHO IS 17, DOING
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A 360.
PRESTON IS 14, AND JULIA IS 12.
>> Alfonsi: DO THE OTHER
COMPETITORS KNOW THAT HE'S
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BLIND?
>> Andrew Smith: SOME DO.
BUT THEY ALWAYS, LIKE, ANNOUNCE
IT OVER THE INTERCOM, THAT,
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LIKE, "BLIND SKIER JACOB COMING
DOWN THE HILL."
>> Announcer: HE IS THE ONLY
EVER-- I HAVE TO SAY--
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BLIND SKIER.
>> Andrew Smith: THAT'S WHEN
EVERYONE TURNS AND LOOKS.
"OH, IT'S A MIRACLE.
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LOOK AT HIM."
>> Alfonsi: WOULD YOU KNOW IF
YOU DIDN'T KNOW?
>> Preston Smith: HE'S-- HE'S--
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HE'S SUCH A GOOD SKIER, FOR
LEGALLY BLIND.
EVERY-- EVERYBODY'S LIKE--
>> Andrew Smith: THEY JUST GET--
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>> Preston Smith: "--NO WAY."
>> Andrew Smith: --MAD AT HIM IF
HE'S IN THE WAY, INSTEAD.
>> Julia Smith: IF WE TELL
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ANYBODY THAT HE'S LEGALLY BLIND,
THEN NOBODY BELIEVES US.
THEY JUST GIVE US A BAD LOOK.
>> Alfonsi: JACOB WAS BORN WITH
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VISION.
SOON AFTER HE LEARNED TO WALK,
HE WAS ON SKIS.
FAMILY VACATIONS WERE SPENT
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BOMBING DOWN THE TRAILS IN
BIG SKY WITH HIS FAMILY.
BUT IT WAS BACK HOME, AT THEIR
RANCH IN NORTH DAKOTA, THAT AN
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UNEXPECTED OBSTACLE CHANGED
JACOB'S LIFE.
HE STARTED GETTING HEADACHES,
AND BEGAN BUMPING INTO THINGS.
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HE WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.
>> Jacob Smith: I, LIKE, RAN
INTO A WALL OR SOMETHING.
AND MY MOM SAW.
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AND THEN IT WAS, LIKE, TWO DAYS
AFTER I WENT TO THE EYE DOCTOR.
AND HE TOOK ONE LOOK AT MY EYES,
LOOKED AT MY MOM, AND THEN JUST
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ASKED, LIKE, "WHICH HOSPITAL DO
YOU WANT," BECAUSE MY OPTIC
NERVE WAS SWELLING AND BLEEDING.
>> Alfonsi: DID YOU HAVE ANY
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SENSE THAT THINGS WERE GOING
WRONG UP UNTIL THAT POINT?
>> Jacob Smith: NO.
>> Alfonsi: THAT DAY, JACOB WAS
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FLOWN HERE, TO THE MASONIC
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IN
MINNEAPOLIS, WHERE HE UNDERWENT
AN EMERGENCY 12-HOUR SURGERY
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AFTER AN M.R.I. REVEALED A
CANCEROUS BRAIN TUMOR THE SIZE
OF A SOFTBALL THAT WAS CRUSHING
HIS OPTIC NERVE.
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>> Nathan Smith: IT'S THE
SCARIEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
IN MY LIFE.
IT LOOKED LIKE HALF HIS BRAIN
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WAS A TUMOR.
>> Alfonsi: SO, AT THAT POINT,
YOU'RE NOT THINKING, I'M WORRIED
HE'S GOING TO LOSE HIS VISION?
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YOU'RE THINKING, I'M WORRIED--
>> Nathan Smith: I'M LOSING MY
CHILD.
>> Alfonsi: YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE
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YOUR CHILD?
>> Nathan Smith: I'M GOING TO
BURY A KID.
>> Alfonsi: IN THAT FIRST
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SURGERY, DOCTORS REMOVED ENOUGH
OF THE TUMOR TO RELIEVE THE
PRESSURE ON JACOB'S OPTIC NERVE
TO STOP HIS VISION FROM
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CONTINUING TO DETERIORATE.
HERE HE IS LEAVING A MESSAGE FOR
HIS SIBLINGS A FEW DAYS LATER.
>> Jacob Smith: I MISS YOU ALL A
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LOT.
I REALLY, REALLY DO.
MY VISION'S GETTING BETTER.
I'M COMING HOME, AND I'M REALLY
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EXCITED.
>> Alfonsi: BUT JACOB WOULD NEED
THREE MORE MAJOR BRAIN SURGERIES
OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS-- ALL
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BEFORE HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
>> Nurse: THE HEAD FEELS OKAY?
>> Alfonsi: EACH TIME, WITH AN
EXTENSIVE REHABILITATION.
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DID YOU EVER GET DOWN ABOUT IT?
>> Jacob Smith: LIKE, I DID.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST--
PRAYED A LOT.
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>> Alfonsi: WHEN YOU WERE
PRAYING ABOUT IT, WERE YOU
PRAYING, "THIS'LL BE OVER"?
WERE YOU PRAYING, "I WANT TO GET
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MY VISION BACK"?
OR WERE YOU PRAYING--
>> Jacob Smith: JUST TO LET--
>> Alfonsi: "--I'LL STAY ALIVE"?
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>> Jacob Smith: THAT I'LL
STAY ALIVE AND THAT I'LL GET
THROUGH IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
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>> Alfonsi: FINALLY, IN 2017, A
COURSE OF RADIATION ERADICATED
THE CANCER AND JACOB GOT A
CLEAN SCAN.
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BUT HIS DOCTORS SAID THE
RADIATION INCREASED HIS LIFETIME
RISK OF ANOTHER BRAIN TUMOR BY
UP TO 30%.
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>> Nathan Smith: RIGHT NOW,
THE TUMOR THAT WE ORIGINALLY
TARGETED IS GONE.
YOU KNOW, SO FAR, SO GOOD.
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>> Alfonsi: IT DOESN'T SOUND
LIKE YOU'VE EXHALED.
>> Nathan Smith: I DON'T THINK
YOU EVER EXHALE.
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>> Alfonsi: BECAUSE?
>> Nathan Smith: BECAUSE THERE'S
ALWAYS THE "WHAT IF."
YOU KNOW, YOU-- WHEN YOU GET PUT
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INTO THAT SITUATION THAT YOU
NEVER FELT YOU EVER SHOULD'VE
BEEN OR EXPECTED, I DON'T THINK
YOU'RE EVER GOING TO EXHALE AND
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GO, IT'S-- WE'RE DONE.
>> Alfonsi: WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO
RETURN TO SKIING?
>> Jacob Smith: WELL, MY DAD'S.
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( LAUGHS )
>> Nathan Smith: TURN AND GO
STRAIGHT THROUGH.
>> Jacob Smith: SO WE CAME
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OUT HERE AND WE KIND OF JUST
TRIED IT OUT.
EVERYWHERE I WENT SKIING FOR
PROBABLY THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO
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WAS WITH EITHER MY DAD OR A
COACH.
>> Alfonsi: YOU TAUGHT YOUR KIDS
TO SKI, BUT YOU'VE NEVER TAUGHT
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A BLIND CHILD TO SKI.
>> Nathan Smith: NO.
>> Alfonsi: SO YOU DID NOT KNOW
WHAT YOU WERE DOING.
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>> Nathan Smith: NO.
>> Alfonsi: SO TELL ME ABOUT
THOSE EARLY DAYS.
>> Nathan Smith: WELL, AT
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FIRST, EVERYONE SAID, "GET A
ROPE AND A SIGN.
AND HE'S GOING TO BE A
BLIND SKIER AND YOU'RE GOING
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TO GUIDE HIM."
LIKE--
I'M LIKE, "NOPE, THAT'S NOT AN
OPTION.
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WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT THAT
WAY."
>> Alfonsi: BECAUSE, WHY?
>> Nathan Smith: BECAUSE I'M NOT
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GOING TO LET THAT DEFINE HIM.
>> Alfonsi: FATHER AND SON
ADMIT THEY ARE TRYING TO CARVE
THEIR OWN PATH-- SORT OF
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FIGURING IT OUT AS THEY GO.
JACOB SAYS HE'S LEARNED TO
LISTEN FOR DANGER.
OTHER SKIERS; THE CHURNING OF
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A LIFT; OR ICY CONDITIONS
UNDER-FOOT.
AND HE SAYS HE REMEMBERS MANY OF
THE RUNS FROM WHEN HE COULD SEE.
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CAN YOU FEEL YOUR WAY DOWN A RUN
YOU DIDN'T GO ON BEFORE YOU LOST
YOUR VISION?
>> Jacob Smith: I MEAN, YEAH,
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I CAN-- AND I'VE DONE IT.
( LAUGHS )
>> Alfonsi: AND HOW DOES IT WORK
OUT?
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>> Jacob Smith: IT'S PRETTY
SCARY.
AND-- SOMETIMES TAKES ME A L--
LITTLE MINUTE.
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>> Alfonsi: THAT'S GOT TO BE
TERRIFYING.
>> Jacob Smith: YOU GET USED TO
IT.
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( LAUGHS )
>> Alfonsi: HOW MANY CRASHES
WERE THERE IN THOSE EARLY DAYS?
>> Jacob Smith: ( SIGHS )
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I DON'T EVEN THINK I CAN COUNT
THAT HIGH.
>> Alfonsi: WHEN JACOB WAS 10,
HE SHATTERED HIS FEMUR IN
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60 PLACES WHEN HE SKIED INTO A
TREE.
ARE YOU NOT NERVOUS THAT THERE'S
GOING TO BE A CATASTROPHIC
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ACCIDENT, THAT HE COULD DIE
DOING THIS?
>> Nathan Smith: IT'S NOT THE
WAY I, LIKE, ENVISION LIFE.
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I DON'T LOOK FOR THE REASONS
NOT TO DO THINGS.
I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HIM IN
SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT GOING
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THROUGH FIRST.
THAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF
FALLING ARE NOT GOING TO BE
LIFE-THREATENING.
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>> Alfonsi: WHAT ARE YOU FEARFUL
OF?
>> Jacob Smith: THE ONLY BIG
FEAR I HAVE IS NOT SUCCEEDING.
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>> Alfonsi: YOU'RE MORE AFRAID
OF NOT SUCCEEDING THAN YOU ARE
OF GETTING HURT?
>> Jacob Smith: YES.
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>> Alfonsi: WHY IS THAT?
>> Jacob Smith: BECAUSE I'VE
ALREADY LOST MY VISION, SO A
COU-- A COUPLE BROKEN BONES AND
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A COUPLE MORE MISHAPS, I GUESS,
ISN'T A BIG DEAL TO ME AT ALL.
>> Alfonsi: CLEARLY, HE'S
FEARLESS.
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AS A PARENT, ARE YOU NOT
FEARFUL?
>> Nathan Smith: HE'S NOT
RECKLESS.
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HE KNOWS HIS LIMITATIONS.
I THINK HE HAS THE ABILITY TO
SKI ANYTHING ON THE MOUNTAIN,
BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO GO TRY TO
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DO IT BY HIMSELF.
LIKE, HE WANTS TO BE WITH
SOMEBODY WHO HE TRUSTS.
HE WON'T SKI WITH PEOPLE HE
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DOESN'T TRUST.
>> Alfonsi: NATHAN SAID JACOB IS
CAUTIOUS ABOUT SKIING AND
COMPETING ON LOW VISIBILITY DAYS
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WHEN HE CAN SEE EVEN LESS THAN
USUAL.
STILL, HE FINDS A WAY OF KEEPING
UP WITH HIS SIBLINGS.
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THEY ARE AN ENVIABLE PACK ON THE
MOUNTAIN.
DO YOU SEE HIM BEING, LIKE,
SUPER PLUGGED INTO EVERYTHING
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ELSE, RIGHT?
TO THE SOUNDS?
HE WAS SAYING HE, LIKE, HEARS
THE LIFT, THE SNOW--
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>> Preston Smith: YEAH.
>> Andrew Smith: OH, YEAH.
>> Alfonsi: WHAT DO YOU SEE?
>> Andrew Smith: HIS HEARING IS
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VERY, LIKE-- HE CHOOSES WHAT HE
WANTS TO HEAR.
( LAUGHS )
SO...
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>> Alfonsi: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
( LAUGHS )
>> Andrew Smith: THERE'S TIMES
AT HOME WHERE HE'LL BE-- LIKE,
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YOU COULD SAY HIS NAME A
THOUSAND TIMES AND HE'LL PRETEND
LIKE HE DIDN'T HEAR ONE WORD.
( LAUGHTER )
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BUT THEN, SKIING, IT'S, LIKE,
YOU COULD, LIKE, FLICK AND
HE'LL, LIKE, JUST TURN, YOU
KNOW.
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>> Alfonsi: ON COMPETITION DAY,
JACOB SUITS UP AND SENDS IT...
>> Jacob Smith: DAD, DROPPING IN
THREE, TWO, ONE.
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>> Alfonsi: ...FINISHING 19th
OUT OF 41 COMPETITORS.
FOR JACOB, SUCCESS ISN'T ABOUT
THE TROPHY.
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IT'S ABOUT FREEDOM-- SHOWING
OTHERS HOW TO NEGOTIATE
OBSTACLES, EVEN WHEN YOU CAN'T
SEE THEM COMING.
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>> Nathan Smith: COMING TO THE
FINISH LINE.
THERE YOU GO.
>> Jacob Smith: HONESTLY, NO
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MATTER WHAT GETS THROWN IN FRONT
OF YOU, WHAT KIND OF COMES OUT
OF NOWHERE AND-- STRIKES YOU,
TAKES YOU OFF-GUARD A LITTLE
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BIT, THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY TO
CONQUER IT.
TO ADAPT.
TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND STILL DO
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WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
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>> Alfonsi: NEXT SUNDAY ON "60
MINUTES," ANDERSON COOPER WITH
TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY PETE
BUTTIGIEG.
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THREE YEARS AGO, HE WAS MAYOR OF
A SMALL CITY IN INDIANA.
NOW, AT 40, HE IS IN CHARGE OF
DISTRIBUTING THE LARGEST SLICE
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OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE
LAW-- MORE THAN $560 BILLION TO
REBUILD AMERICA'S HIGHWAYS,
BRIDGES, TUNNELS, AIRPORTS AND
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RAILROADS.
>> Buttigieg: WHEN IT COMES TO
ROADS AND BRIDGES, WE HAVEN'T
INVESTED AT THIS LEVEL SINCE THE
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EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION, SINCE
THEY BUILT THE INTERSTATE
HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
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>> Alfonsi: I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK, WITH
ANOTHER EDIT
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