1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,300 When you first heard 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:10,500 the word 3 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:11,900 guilty, 4 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:13,800 you thought what 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,700 gratitude 6 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:17,900 humility 7 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:19,200 followed by 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,800 a certain sense of 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,500 I'll say satisfaction 10 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:23,400 tonight 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,200 the prosecutors in the George, Floyd murder trial. 12 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Tell us about the defendant, 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 the jury we never saw 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,500 and the meaning 15 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:32,700 of Justice. 16 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,500 You could have charged him with a hate crime 17 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,700 under Minnesota law. 18 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:39,600 And you chose not to. 19 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,400 The US and Russia have entered a treacherous phase 20 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,600 diplomats being expelled 21 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,700 Russian troops at the Ukraine border 22 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:51,800 and a Crackdown on protests, over the treatment of 23 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,500 Alexei navalny, 24 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,300 Vladimir Putin's main political rival, 25 00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:57,400 who's being held 26 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,300 in a Russian prison. 27 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:02,200 We last spoke to navalny in October 28 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,500 while he recovered from 29 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:05,700 a near-fatal poisoning. 30 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,500 You have said you think 31 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:08,200 that mr. 32 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,700 Putin's responsible. 33 00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:16,100 I don't think I'm sure that he is responsible. 34 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:18,400 It's been so long since the Lights Went Out 35 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,400 on Broadway. 36 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,800 And New York's other stages 37 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,100 in small steps. 38 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,700 In this case, many of them, 39 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:30,500 the city's performers are beginning to play to Grateful 40 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,400 audiences again. 41 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,100 Everyone desperate to get 100,000 people back to work. 42 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:38,200 Full time, 43 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,000 we've missed that connection, it's about connection, the human 44 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 connection. 45 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,300 I'm Leslie, Stahl, 46 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:48,600 I'm Bill Whitaker, I'm Anderson Cooper. 47 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,900 I'm John wertheim, 48 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:50,500 I'm Scott. 49 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:51,200 Pelley 50 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,600 those stories and more tonight 51 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:03,500 on 60 Minutes. 52 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:06,300 Derek Chauvin is in solitary confinement. 53 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:10,200 Tonight awaiting sentencing for the murder of George Floyd, 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,500 the former Minneapolis police officer was convicted this past 55 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:14,500 Tuesday 56 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:15,800 after the verdict. 57 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,400 The prosecution team sat down with us 58 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,400 including lead. 59 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Prosecutor 60 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,300 Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison. 61 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:26,300 When you first heard 62 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:27,600 the word 63 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,000 guilty, 64 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,900 you thought what 65 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:33,700 gratitude 66 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:34,900 humility 67 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:36,200 followed by 68 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,800 a certain sense of 69 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,700 I'll say satisfaction 70 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:42,600 it's what we were aiming for the whole time. 71 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,100 I spent 16 years as a criminal defense lawyer, 72 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:46,600 so I will admit I feel a little bad 73 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,900 for the defendant. 74 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:51,400 I think he deserved to be convicted. 75 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,300 But he's a human being 76 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:54,200 somehow. 77 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,000 I did not expect to hear from you 78 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,100 a note of compassion 79 00:02:59,100 --> 00:03:00,500 for Derek Shogun. 80 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:01,500 I'm not 81 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:05,000 in any way waiver and for my responsibility. 82 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,300 But 83 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:09,000 I hope we never forget that. 84 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,500 people who are 85 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:14,200 defendants in our criminal justice system, that 86 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,700 They're human beings are people. 87 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:17,200 I mean George. 88 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Floyd was a human being 89 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,700 and so 90 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:22,400 I'm not going to 91 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,700 ever forget that everybody in this process is a 92 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:25,800 person, 93 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,500 Wilshire 94 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:28,500 ever a time that you thought you could lose 95 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:29,600 this case. 96 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,000 I was never convinced we were going to win 97 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,400 this case, until we heard the verdicts of guilty. 98 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,900 I remember what happened in the Rodney King case 99 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:39,800 when I was a pretty young man, young lawyer, 100 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,900 and I remember how 101 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,000 devastated I felt when I heard that the jury 102 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Those officers 103 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,500 whenever an officer is charged with an offense. 104 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,300 Particularly when the victim is 105 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:53,900 is a person of color. 106 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,900 it's just rare that there's 107 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:58,900 Any any accountability? 108 00:03:58,900 --> 00:03:59,800 And so 109 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,700 there was every moment of this case. 110 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:03,800 I thought 111 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,800 what are we missing? 112 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,300 What haven't we done? 113 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:10,800 57 year old Keith Ellison represented, Minneapolis and Congress. 114 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,100 He became attorney general in 2019. 115 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:15,600 In the Chauvin case, 116 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,900 the governor passed over the local County attorney in 117 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:20,200 favor of Allison. 118 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,100 To give the prosecution Independence 119 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:23,700 Ellison's. 120 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:27,300 Team of 14 attorneys worked 11. 121 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:28,600 To explain 122 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,700 nine minutes and 29 seconds. 123 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,100 We never thought 124 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:35,500 we could play the video and sit down. 125 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:37,200 We always knew 126 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,300 we had to put on a full case 127 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,800 and act as if we didn't have a video, 128 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,000 we made sure that the witnesses 129 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,200 could carry it. 130 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,600 There were 45 Witnesses over three weeks, 131 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,500 including 132 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,600 the Minneapolis chief of police 133 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,400 is not part of our training 134 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,100 and it is certainly not part of our ethics, 135 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:56,600 our 136 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,400 I use 137 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,700 and a leading Authority on the complexities 138 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,700 of a simple breath. 139 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:03,500 That's the moment. 140 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:06,100 The life goes out of his body, 141 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:07,700 which witness 142 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,100 sealed this case for you. 143 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:11,300 I think it was 144 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:11,600 mr. 145 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,400 McMillan, 146 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,900 if we're 147 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:16,700 61 year old guy, 148 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:18,500 didn't know, George Floyd. 149 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:19,900 And he came in there 150 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:25,300 and he cried on the witness stand. 151 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:29,100 Charles McMillan was among those Witnesses who could plainly 152 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:30,800 see the humanity 153 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 that never seem to register in the eyes of 154 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Derek Chauvin, 155 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,300 as you looked on 156 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,200 the faces of the 12, jurors during the 157 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,800 more difficult 158 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,900 eyewitness 159 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:42,600 testimony. 160 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 What did you see in their faces? 161 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,300 Jerry Blackwell 162 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:47,600 and Steve? Slusher 163 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,200 presented. 164 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,400 The case. 165 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,300 I saw a kind of empathy 166 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,400 in their faces that that they could feel 167 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:54,800 what the 168 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,900 Witnesses felt 169 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:58,700 they could feel the the anguish 170 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,300 they could feel the pain. 171 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,000 They saw the tears, 172 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,500 the Dozen jurors remain anonymous 173 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:06,600 socially distanced from one another. 174 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,200 They were never seen on camera. 175 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,300 They were bright 176 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:13,700 and they were taking their responsibilities. 177 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:14,500 Very seriously. 178 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:17,100 And you could see that throughout the entire trial 179 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,400 they were leaned forward. 180 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Engaged, taking notes, take notes Furious, 181 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,900 yeah, furiously taking notes. 182 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:26,200 Several jurors had 183 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Advanced degrees. 184 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,900 One was a registered nurse. 185 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:33,000 They were overwhelmingly under the age of 40 186 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,400 which was unique 187 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,900 half white 188 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:38,000 half people of color 189 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,700 to 190 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:41,800 what I would call traditional African Americans. 191 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,000 You know, people like me, 192 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,300 there were two 193 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:46,200 African immigrants. 194 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,800 There were two 195 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,300 folks who are 196 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:51,100 mixed race, who had 197 00:06:51,100 --> 00:06:52,500 think African 198 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,900 descendant, parent 199 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:55,000 and a white parent. 200 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,100 And then they're the white, jurors were very diverse 201 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:57,600 to, 202 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,300 you know, 203 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:00,300 some of them were working class, 204 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:03,600 others were very highly educated folks, use your common 205 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,100 sense, 206 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,300 the identity of the jurors is one of two 207 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,000 Mysteries of the trial. 208 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,200 The other is 209 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,100 the motive 210 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:11,500 for the murder. 211 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:15,000 Was this a hate crime? 212 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,700 I wouldn't call it that 213 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:18,500 because hate crimes 214 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:21,400 are crimes where there's an explicit motive 215 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,100 and 216 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:23,500 of bias. 217 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,400 We don't have any evidence that 218 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Derek Chauvin factored in 219 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,100 George floors race. 220 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:29,600 As he did. 221 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 What he did. 222 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,000 You could have charged him with a hate crime 223 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,500 under Minnesota law. 224 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:34,600 Yeah. 225 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,400 And you chose not to 226 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,600 could have, 227 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,300 but 228 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:39,900 we only charge 229 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:42,200 those crimes that we had evidence 230 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:42,700 to 231 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:44,500 that we could put in front of a jury. 232 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:45,600 Proof 233 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,100 If we too had a witness 234 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,200 that told us 235 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,100 that Derek Shepherd made a racial reference, 236 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:52,700 we might have charged them with a potato, hate 237 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:53,600 crime, 238 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,500 but I would have needed a witness to say 239 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:57,200 that on the stand, 240 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,100 we didn't have it 241 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,500 so we didn't do it. 242 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:01,500 The whole world 243 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:02,900 sees this 244 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:04,800 as a white officer, 245 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,400 killing a black man 246 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,500 because he is black 247 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:12,500 and you're telling me that there's no evidence to 248 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:13,800 support that 249 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,400 in our society. 250 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Society, 251 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,900 there is a social Norm 252 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:20,300 that killing certain kinds of people 253 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:21,800 is more tolerable 254 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,500 than other kinds of people 255 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:24,700 in order for us to 256 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:27,300 stop and pay serious attention to this case and 257 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:28,700 be outraged by it. 258 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:31,500 It's not necessary that Derek Shepherd, has specific racial 259 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:32,100 and 260 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:33,200 intent 261 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,000 to harm George Floyd. 262 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,100 The fact is we know 263 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:37,900 that 264 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:41,100 through housing patterns, through employment through wealth, 265 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:43,800 through a whole range of other things. 266 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,500 So often 267 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:47,600 People of color, black people end up with 268 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,900 harsh treatment from law enforcement, 269 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:52,400 and other folks 270 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,700 doing the exact same thing. 271 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,500 Just don't, 272 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:00,400 if an officer doesn't throw a white neurologist in 273 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,500 Eden Prairie, Minnesota to the ground 274 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,700 and doesn't 275 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:05,800 sit on top of his neck. 276 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Is he doing it? Because this is a fellow 277 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,700 white brother. 278 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:10,600 No, he's doing it because he thinks this is 279 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,800 an important person. 280 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400 And if I treat them badly, 281 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,000 He's going to ask me about this. 282 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,500 This person probably has lawyers. 283 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:18,500 They probably knows the governor. 284 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:19,500 He probably knows. 285 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:20,400 He has connections. 286 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,100 I can look at the way he's dressed and 287 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,200 the way he talks 288 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,000 that he's probably quote unquote somebody 289 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,700 and so 290 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:28,600 that's really what it's about. 291 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,700 Why 292 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:31,400 would this officer 293 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,200 assault 294 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,900 George Floyd? 295 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:35,400 Well 296 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,200 that's a question. 297 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,700 We've spent a lot of time asking ourselves. 298 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,700 and 299 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:44,500 all we could come up with is, 300 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,100 What we could Divine from his body language and 301 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:49,100 his demeanor. 302 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:50,200 And what we saw 303 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,400 is that the crowd was demanding that he get 304 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,400 up 305 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 and he was staring right back at them, 306 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,500 defiantly. 307 00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:59,500 You don't tell me what to do. 308 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,500 I do what I want to do, 309 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,600 you people have no control over me. 310 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,300 I'm going to show you 311 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:07,500 and what he showed them. 312 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,500 He showed 213 313 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:11,200 video cameras. 314 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,900 Could you one conviction without the bystander video? 315 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:16,000 I don't know 316 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,500 if it was just the witness of statements. 317 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:22,600 I have to say to you, that it was, 318 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,800 I think it was an indispensable piece of this 319 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,700 case. 320 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:30,100 The first public statement that the Minneapolis Police Department 321 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:31,400 made 322 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,900 hours after mr. 323 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:34,100 Floyd was killed, 324 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:35,000 right? 325 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,300 Was that the police had been involved? 326 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,200 And someone had died of a medical 327 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,000 emergency. 328 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,300 Do you think we ever would have known the 329 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:45,500 truth 330 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:47,100 without the video? 331 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:48,400 You know, 332 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 I have real doubts. 333 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,900 They'll be Everwood. 334 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:53,300 Why would 335 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:54,700 Derek Chauvin 336 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:56,300 commit murder 337 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,200 or even assault, 338 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,300 if he knew 339 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:02,400 he was being recorded, I think that 340 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,400 if he looks at history, 341 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,000 he has every reason to believe that he would 342 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,700 never be held accountable. 343 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:10,500 They had never been anyone in Minnesota convicted any 344 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:13,300 police officer convicted of second-degree murder 345 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,400 in the history of our state. 346 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,900 So this is 347 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:18,800 precedent setting in that way. 348 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,300 So history, 349 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:21,800 Was on his side, 350 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,100 does George Floyd 351 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,400 bear 352 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,100 any responsibility 353 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:28,300 in your view 354 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,300 for what happened that day? 355 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:31,300 No, 356 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:32,100 he doesn't. 357 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:35,100 Hey, 358 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:37,700 if he's gotten in the car, 359 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:39,700 he'd be alive today. 360 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:40,800 The fact is, 361 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,300 is that police officers are paid and trained 362 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:47,600 to deal with people who are having problems. 363 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,500 And 364 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,900 if they're allowed to use deadly force on people 365 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:52,900 who are just having 366 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:54,600 a bad day, 367 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,800 then 368 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,500 then we're going to be in a very, very 369 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,400 lethal situation. 370 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,900 We need officers 371 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:03,700 who have the judgment 372 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,000 and the ability to discern 373 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 what somebody is going through. 374 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,900 So that people survive these encounters, 375 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:11,600 George Floyd was not armed, 376 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,100 he never threatened a soul, 377 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,700 he never struck out on it against anybody. 378 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:17,100 He did everything the officers 379 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:17,700 Said 380 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:20,000 except he had 381 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 claustrophobia and anxiety 382 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 and couldn't bring himself to get in that car. 383 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,800 How could shovin justify 384 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,600 being on him three minutes after he had no 385 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,400 pulse, 386 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,800 how can he justify not rendering CPR? 387 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,100 How can he justify 388 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:33,800 not heating George 389 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,200 Floyd's, 27 390 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,900 request to be able to breathe, I can't breathe. 391 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:39,600 He said, 27 times 392 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,500 how can he just 393 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:41,500 ignore that? 394 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:42,500 So 395 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,000 I'm hard pressed to find how George Floyd 396 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,100 Bears responsibility for what happened here. 397 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:50,100 Look at the totality of the circumstances, Jerry Blackwell 398 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:53,500 and Steve Swisher presented, the closing arguments but they're 399 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,700 not career prosecutors. 400 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:58,400 They were recruited by the Attorney, General from Big 401 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,000 law firms because of their talent, 402 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,700 both volunteered to work this case 403 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:04,900 for free. 404 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:06,700 It meant a lot to me, personally, 405 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:08,100 when I have 406 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:10,300 had my own experiences of 407 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:10,900 being 408 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:11,600 stopped, 409 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,400 by the police for no reason, 410 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,200 being harassed for no reason. 411 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,100 And I want to do my part, 412 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,200 Just as a citizen to say 413 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,100 that the rule of law matters, 414 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:24,000 what does this verdict change? 415 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,500 Does it change 416 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,300 anything? 417 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:29,100 Well, we won't know, 418 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,800 right? We're in the middle 419 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,100 of History 420 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:33,400 right now 421 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,700 and so that's yet to be seen 422 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:37,400 but the rest of it is really up to 423 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,800 the world. 424 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,500 Whether 425 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:42,400 it changes, what it changes to, what extent, 426 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,900 we're in the middle of this 427 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:44,700 story. 428 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:47,100 I don't think that there are any inevitabilities in 429 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:48,000 Because 430 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,600 we don't make progress 431 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,700 on the wheels of inevitability. 432 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:54,000 In fact, I think progress Rose like a brick 433 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,900 and 434 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,600 and so each one has to be flipped each 435 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,000 time. 436 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,900 So 437 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:01,500 when people talk about inflection points and so on, 438 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,800 I'm not really a subscriber to inflection points. 439 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,500 There's no reason to believe 440 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,100 that things were easier going forward. 441 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,400 Then there were to get here and I think 442 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,400 we have to make a consistent effort 443 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,700 every day 444 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:13,700 to protect the vulnerable 445 00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:15,300 and in the work to reform ourselves. 446 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:17,000 Which if we don't do there won't be any 447 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Lasting change. 448 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,500 Anyway, if each person doesn't work to make the 449 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:20,800 change 450 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,300 three other former officers will go on trial together. 451 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:25,600 In August, 452 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,900 45 year-old, Eric Chauvin will be sentenced by the 453 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:31,300 judge in mid-june. 454 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,000 George Floyd's family can make a statement at that 455 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,100 hearing and so could Chauvin 456 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,500 if he chooses, 457 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,000 he faces a maximum 458 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,000 of 40 years. 459 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 A maximum sentence 460 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,600 would send what kind of message. 461 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,100 I think it is important. 462 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:49,900 for the court to 463 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:52,000 Not go light or heavy, 464 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,700 I don't know if it's right for a judge 465 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:56,200 to send a message through a sentence 466 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 because the sentence should be 467 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,400 tailored to the offense 468 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,000 tailored to the circumstances of the case. 469 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,700 Look 470 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:07,100 the state never wanted revenge against Derek shelving. 471 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:17,500 We just wanted accountability. 472 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:21,700 Russian President, Vladimir Putin's political opposition has taken to 473 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:22,400 the streets. 474 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Once again, 475 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 in cities across the country, 476 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 they were ignited by the imprisonment of opposition leader 477 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Alexei navalny 478 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 who was said to be near death in the 479 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,400 prison. 480 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Infirmary 481 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,900 partly the result of a 24-day hunger strike, 482 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:40,300 which he ended Friday. 483 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:44,400 Last month, President Biden announced new sanctions against Russia 484 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,500 for incarcerating navalny, 485 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,300 who has 486 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:50,000 An international symbol of freedom 487 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,500 and an increasingly autocratic country 488 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,600 navalny was taken into custody. 489 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 As he returned to Russia in January, 490 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,000 after treatment, in Germany for a near-fatal poisoning. 491 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,100 We spoke last Fallen Berlin as he recovered 492 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,000 and as we reported, then 493 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 he told us, he was aboard a flight from 494 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,300 Siberia 495 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,300 to Moscow 496 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:14,800 when he began to feel 497 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,200 very sick. 498 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,100 I said to the flight attendant and I kind 499 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:20,200 of shocked him 500 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,100 with my statement or well, I was poisoned 501 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,400 and I'm going to die and I immediately laid 502 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,100 down 503 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:27,300 under his feet. 504 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:30,200 Alexei navalny was on a flight to Moscow from 505 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,300 Siberia 506 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,200 where he'd been campaigning against Putin's party in a 507 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,200 local election, when he collapsed with no pain, but 508 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,100 knowing he was dying, 509 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:40,500 actually. 510 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,900 Every cell of your body just telling you that 511 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:45,100 body. 512 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:46,200 We are done 513 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,000 one of the other 514 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Passengers. 515 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,100 Turn on his phone and captured navalny moaning 516 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:54,000 in anguish. 517 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 The pilot made an emergency landing a gnome Square 518 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,900 Medics thinking. 519 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:01,200 Navalny must be a drug addict administered, the usual 520 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,900 treatment for an overdose 521 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:05,100 and rushed him to a local hospital 522 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:08,100 where they said he wasn't poisoned, but wouldn't let 523 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:10,100 him leave for days. 524 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:12,200 Well, it was a big fight 525 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,200 and they thought that after 526 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,900 48 Hours, 527 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,200 these 528 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,600 these poison would be untraceable 529 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,300 and 530 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:22,300 they just keep me there 531 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:23,800 until this. 532 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Eight hours will be gone, 533 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,500 navalny is under constant. 534 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:28,400 Surveillance 535 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,400 his wife Yulia says government agents were at the 536 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,400 hospital controlling access to her husband 537 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,900 and she believes calling the shots 538 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:40,400 at the time navalny was in a coma 539 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,000 unaware. 540 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,300 That his wife Yulia 541 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:44,400 was waging a public campaign 542 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,100 to encourage Western diplomatic pressure. 543 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:47,900 And 544 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,700 did you write a letter to Putin? 545 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:51,000 Yeah, I did it. 546 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Dear mr. 547 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,300 Putin free my husband, 548 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:53,800 I agree. 549 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,300 Wrote like I insist that he should do it. 550 00:17:57,300 --> 00:17:58,200 I demand your 551 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,700 free, my husband. 552 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:00,100 Yeah. 553 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,200 It was a 554 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,300 online campaign. 555 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:03,400 Let him out 556 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,400 and Putin. 557 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,500 Thought it would be safe for him. 558 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,100 Just let me out after the 559 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:09,300 48 hours. 560 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:11,600 So after 48 Hours, 561 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,500 the Russian government allowed him to be flown by 562 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:15,700 air ambulance, 563 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:17,700 to a hospital in Berlin 564 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:21,200 known for its experience with victims of poison attacks 565 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,800 and I gather they suspected poison, right? 566 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,300 Way. 567 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:25,900 Yes, 568 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:26,700 of course 569 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:30,500 meanwhile his team in Siberia, searched his hotel room 570 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,300 collecting things. 571 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,200 Navalny may have touched 572 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,700 like this water bottle, 573 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:37,300 which the doctors in Berlin sent along with a 574 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:40,400 blood sample to a German military lab 575 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,800 to see exactly what the poison was. 576 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,800 And the answer 577 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,100 was novichok, 578 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:47,600 they discover another chalk. 579 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,400 This nerve agent 580 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,600 in my blood inside of body on my body 581 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,700 and all these boss 582 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:54,300 Bottle 583 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,500 from the hotel. 584 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,600 So 585 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,900 that's why we now we know that I was 586 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:00,700 poison in the hotel because 587 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:01,600 I, 588 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,300 well, it's 589 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:05,000 again, it's just a pure speculation because no one 590 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,900 knows what what what happened. 591 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:07,800 Exactly. 592 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,400 But I think that 593 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,900 when I was 594 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:13,600 maybe put some clothes with these, 595 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,500 with this poison on me, I touch it with 596 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,800 the hand and then 597 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,200 I sip from the bottle, 598 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,800 so these nerve agent was not inside of a 599 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,200 bottle. 600 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,600 But on the bottle 601 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,800 novichok is a 602 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,900 Highly toxic nerve agent said to be 10 times 603 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:29,100 more potent than sarin gas, 604 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,800 labs and France and Sweden corroborated. 605 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,900 The finding 606 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,900 there's no doubt, it was military-grade novichok, 607 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:40,200 it's maybe it's the most toxic 608 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,000 agents 609 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,400 invented by the 610 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,200 humans. 611 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,600 So it's new type of no chalk 612 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,100 which proved that. 613 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,500 Unfortunately, Putin 614 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:52,200 have a developing new program of these chemical weapon 615 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,700 which is forbidden The Rush. 616 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:55,900 Fans have said that, they destroyed 617 00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:57,200 all these chemical weapons. 618 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,800 That's why I actually they deny everything because it 619 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,300 means that they still have this Navy chalk. 620 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:06,100 So it means they are not just violating with 621 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:06,800 the keeping it. 622 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,800 They are 623 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,600 continue to improve it 624 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,700 and there's no doubt that Russia 625 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:13,700 is the only place that where that could have 626 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:14,500 come from. 627 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,400 This is absolutely correct. 628 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,200 It's a banned substance. 629 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,600 It's a benefit options. 630 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,600 I think for Putin. 631 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,500 Why 632 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:23,900 his using this 633 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:25,200 Chemical weapon 634 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,800 to do. 635 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,300 Do both 636 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:28,300 kill me 637 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:30,500 and you know, terrify others. 638 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:34,000 It's something really scary with the people just drop 639 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,700 that without there are no gun. 640 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:36,800 There are no shots. 641 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,300 And in a couple of hours, 642 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,600 you will be dead. 643 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 And without any traces, on your body. 644 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,400 It's something terrifying. 645 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,700 And Putin is enjoying it. 646 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:47,500 You have said, you think 647 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,000 that 648 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,300 mr. 649 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:49,800 Putin's responsible. 650 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,200 I don't think. 651 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,700 I'm sure that he is responsible. 652 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:57,600 Putin's spokesman Dmitry peskov says, the charge is completely 653 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 baseless and unacceptable 654 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,700 but Angela Merkel of Germany and Emmanuel. 655 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:04,000 Macron of France, 656 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,200 have persuaded the European Union to impose sanctions over 657 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,700 this. 658 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:11,400 Well, all these leaders have signed on 659 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,900 except Donald Trump. 660 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,300 As I have noticed it, 661 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:18,100 is it important to you 662 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:19,100 that? He 663 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:20,400 condemn this action. 664 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,600 So 665 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,600 I think it's 666 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,800 extremely important. 667 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,300 Wasn't 668 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:27,000 that everyone 669 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,300 of course including and maybe in the first row, 670 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:32,000 president of United States 671 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,500 to be very against using chemical weapon 672 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:38,000 in the 21 century when you apart. 673 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,900 But why would Putin want to poison Alexei navalny? 674 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:44,500 When we first met navalny? Three years ago 675 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:47,000 he was running against Putin for president. 676 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,100 He had made a name for himself by getting 677 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:53,400 his hands on incriminating internal financial documents related to 678 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,700 high. 679 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:57,100 I level officials and posting them on a Blog. 680 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:57,800 Did these 681 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,500 documents that you got proved corruption? 682 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:01,400 Absolutely. 683 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,000 I work as a whistleblower and I'm not afraid 684 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,100 to 685 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:06,500 announce the names. 686 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:09,400 He says, he found that the kremlin's Inner Circle 687 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,400 was accumulating vast amounts of wealth and published pictures 688 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600 of multiple homes and Yachts. 689 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,300 He moved on to airing documentaries on YouTube with 690 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:22,500 video of the officials lavish lifestyle 691 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,100 and it's 692 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,000 It's something very special about mr. 693 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,800 Putin 694 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,600 that he is crazy about money, 695 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,200 personal money about his family being rich, his friends 696 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,800 like 697 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,700 all his people who always served him with him 698 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:37,400 with him 699 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,800 in the KGB. 700 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,500 All of them, they are billionaires. 701 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:41,400 That's why 702 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,900 fighting corruption 703 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:43,700 means for him. 704 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:45,900 That he's fighting me. 705 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:47,600 You know, I'm smiling. 706 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Because here you are. 707 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,500 You have survived the most potent nerve agent there 708 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:53,300 is 709 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:53,800 and you 710 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,500 Are as fiery 711 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,600 and worked up about your 712 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,400 about Putin and what's going on in this country 713 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,700 as you were when I met you a couple 714 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:02,500 of years ago. 715 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,800 Well I'm 716 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,100 glad 717 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:08,000 I'm glad that I've survived and his blog and 718 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,300 Flames so much outrage in 2017. 719 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:13,600 The tens of thousands of Russians took to the 720 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,400 streets against Putin 721 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,500 when navalny called for a second round of protests. 722 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:19,700 Three months later, 723 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:23,100 he was arrested before he even left his apartment 724 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:23,800 building. 725 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,900 He's been jailed so many times. 726 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,400 He's lost count. 727 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,600 He's been beaten. 728 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,700 Had green dye with acid splashed in his face 729 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,800 and now he can add poisoning to his resume 730 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,200 and blame President Putin's. 731 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,900 How can you say that? Why wouldn't it be 732 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:42,900 one of the oligarchs whom you've embarrassed 733 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,500 by? As you say exposing their corruption, even for 734 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:47,100 oligarchy. 735 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,700 It's impossible to get this nabhi chakra. 736 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,100 It's not something you can buy in the store 737 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,600 even if you have a million of the billions 738 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:53,800 of 739 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Dollars, 740 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,500 maybe more important, you cannot use it, you will 741 00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:00,000 kill yourself and everyone around 742 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,700 because 743 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,200 it's very difficult to 744 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,300 you know, 745 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:04,200 Caroline it. 746 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,700 Yes. 747 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,500 And 748 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:06,000 then 749 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,300 these huge cover-up operation. 750 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:10,200 There is no criminal investigation so far. 751 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,600 If if Putin is not responsible, 752 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,500 why 753 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,200 there is no investigation 754 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,000 and 755 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 look what they're doing right now. 756 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,500 Like 757 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,900 Putin with 758 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,500 conversation with the French President macron. 759 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:23,200 He said 760 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,700 well, 761 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,800 Alma Valley poisoned himself. 762 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,700 Seriously. 763 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:27,000 Mr. 764 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,800 Putin 765 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,300 told the president of France that you poisoned yourself. 766 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:34,600 It was just to you know annoy him 767 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Putin is contending with rounds of protests in the 768 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,600 Far Eastern part of the country 769 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000 with people taking to the streets for the past 770 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,300 three months. 771 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:46,700 Navalny thinks the attempt on his life is connected 772 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,100 despite his controlling police 773 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:52,500 judges, courts, media and everything, 774 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:53,800 still his 775 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Like 776 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,100 he understands that he is surrounded by protests in 777 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:58,300 its increasing. 778 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:00,100 So that's why his 779 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:02,100 they decided to, 780 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,900 you know, except for Extreme Measures. 781 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,900 This is what it looked like, just a month 782 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:07,500 ago 783 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,900 soon after his doctors brought him out of an 784 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,300 induced, coma 785 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,700 rail-thin 786 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,500 with a sickly pallor. 787 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,500 This photo was taken the first day. 788 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:17,900 He saw his children 789 00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:20,600 after being taken off a ventilator. 790 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,400 So you were in a coma 791 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,200 and then you woke up. 792 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,800 And what happened 793 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,700 after this coma? I just jumped to their 794 00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,200 long period of 795 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,000 kind of crazy. 796 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,900 Hallucinations and several, you know, 797 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:36,200 steps of 798 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,300 realizing where I am, who I am. 799 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,100 And 800 00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:40,700 I 801 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,100 could not speak 802 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,600 and I could not write 803 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,600 how has this affected your family? 804 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,300 Well, it was, it was a difficult situation but 805 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:51,200 they stand it and 806 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,000 great children 807 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,700 because children 808 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:53,900 Your 809 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:56,500 son is 12 and your daughter is in college, 810 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,000 right? 811 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Those are tough edges to realize that your father 812 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,400 came close to being assassinated. 813 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Did they say 814 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,100 to you, 815 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,900 pop dad, 816 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:08,800 you have to stop. 817 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Absolutely not. 818 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,500 No 819 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:13,300 absolutely not my, I 820 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,400 am very lucky man because I have 821 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800 all support from my family. 822 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,000 You'd almost have to 823 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,400 at this point, 824 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,000 navalny, his wife, his bodyguard. 825 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 And I went out for a walk in front 826 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,300 of the Brandenburg, gate in Berlin 827 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:27,800 and a 828 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,500 A length of police showed up. 829 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,300 So you certainly 830 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:33,800 travel with a lot of protection. 831 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Yes, I have a lot of security. 832 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 He's under the protection of the German government 833 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,300 because there's concern, he could be the target of 834 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,000 another poisoning. 835 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600 And yet he said he's determined to return to 836 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,600 Moscow and a couple of months 837 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800 as soon as he's a hundred percent 838 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,200 and resumed his work where he left off 839 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,600 campaigning against Vladimir Putin. 840 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,400 You know you're used to be known as the 841 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,700 man. 842 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,600 Man, who had no fear, 843 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,300 but what about your family? 844 00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:03,000 Do you ever think 845 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,800 that you were 846 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,600 putting them in danger? 847 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,400 That is a toughest part. 848 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,900 Yes, I don't feel any fear. 849 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:12,000 But children, 850 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,800 what is the kind of really 851 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,500 horrible thought 852 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,700 if they will try to use this Navy, chalk, 853 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,500 somewhere around my apartment and where my children is 854 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:23,400 coming, like, you know, this 855 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,900 door or something, 856 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,700 but everyone can touch it. 857 00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,300 But 858 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:30,700 anyway, we should fight these people because they will 859 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:31,700 never stop. 860 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,200 They will poison someone else. 861 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,300 They will poison 862 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:35,300 more people. 863 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:36,000 Well, how do you 864 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,500 Feel now, 865 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:38,500 are you back? 866 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:39,400 Totally back. 867 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,800 You seem to be. 868 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,500 I 869 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:43,600 still need some time to recover 870 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,200 and I'm working on it. 871 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,700 But you do go to rehab 872 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:47,700 to go every day. 873 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:48,400 Yes, 874 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,200 to learn from the Screech, how to how to 875 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,600 move, how to D? Something's there, 876 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,900 interesting that 877 00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:58,100 I feel kind of a bitter wooden 878 00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,600 or teen man, like from The 879 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,200 Wizard of Oz 880 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,900 because they budget lost all flexibility at all. 881 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:07,100 Interesting, how it's work. 882 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:07,800 I have no idea. 883 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,900 It's it now it's 884 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:13,200 difficult movies for me, for example, pick something from 885 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,900 the ground. 886 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,000 What about the psychological 887 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600 effect 888 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600 of having 889 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,800 knowing that 890 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,100 somebody tried to kill you 891 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,800 came that close 892 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,000 you know 893 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,500 I think it's a 894 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:29,300 it's a good thing. 895 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,500 It's a very useful for politician 896 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,400 may be facing that 897 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,600 once 898 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,100 because it's changed you a bit. 899 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:40,400 So maybe ironically, I became kind of more human 900 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200 after these facing that 901 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,800 the Biden administration's National Security. 902 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Advisor, Jake Sullivan on CNN last Sunday, 903 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400 warned, the Kremlin of consequences 904 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:59,900 if Alexei navalny dies in custody. 905 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:04,900 A new message from Alexei navalny wife Yulia. 906 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:05,600 See it 907 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:17,000 only at 60 Minutes over time.com. 908 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Giving new zest to the terms showstopper the pandemic. 909 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,300 Sure did a number 910 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,800 on the Performing Arts 911 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,100 in just when we needed them, most 912 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,000 live music, dance and theater, help us to process 913 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Collective trauma to make sense of loss and fear. 914 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,700 But the same intimacy and shared experience that make 915 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:35,500 the Performing Arts. 916 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:36,600 So special 917 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600 have made them singularly awful for covid times. 918 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600 There is an economic toll to putting the Performing 919 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Arts on mute, 920 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,900 especially in New York where they bring in billions 921 00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:46,800 and we're 922 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,100 Way, alone sells more tickets 923 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,600 than all, the cities pro, sports teams combined, 924 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,600 but what about the loss in value, that can't 925 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,800 be measured 926 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,400 as Show Business reimagines. 927 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,700 Its role, Post covid in the city that never 928 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:00,500 sleeps. 929 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,800 We consulted three dazzling talents at the top of 930 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:10,600 their games, doing their best to improvise. 931 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,500 Meet Aya, Delhi Cassell. 932 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,100 Originally from the Bronx, she's danced her way. 933 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,300 Onto the biggest stages in the world. 934 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,600 Here she is at New York's, Joyce Theater. 935 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,900 Performing for an online audience. 936 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,500 Tap dancing is to me 937 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:28,200 a 938 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,600 genius 939 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,100 musical 940 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:35,900 way of moving one's feet and body. 941 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,200 It's expression. 942 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,500 Its Joy, 943 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,200 its resistance. 944 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000 I think it's magical. 945 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,800 What's it like without an audience? And how does 946 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,500 that 947 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,000 compare to the real thing? 948 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,500 Well it doesn't compare to the real thing. 949 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,200 Next allow us to introduce Anthony Roth Costanza 950 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,400 a countertenor whose Talent is matched by his range 951 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,900 up until the pandemic. 952 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,700 He was starring in the Metropolitan Opera sold out 953 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:06,500 production 954 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:07,900 of Akhenaten. 955 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,600 I was biking by the met the other day 956 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,100 and I 957 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,300 Stopped my bike, 958 00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:13,400 and I close my eyes. 959 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,800 And I thought, 960 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,500 what does it smell like 961 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,700 on that stage? What does it feel like? Can 962 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:19,700 you remember? 963 00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,000 It is such an incredible 964 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,900 feeling 965 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,300 stepping onto the stage of the Met 966 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:29,500 looking out at 3,800 people. 967 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:30,700 And finally, 968 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:31,700 ladies and gentlemen. 969 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:32,800 Nathan Lane, 970 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,700 we ask the veteran Broadway actor, how he stayed 971 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:37,300 limber during the pandemic. 972 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,000 I haven't, I'm a line like everyone. 973 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000 I'm sitting home watching. 974 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,700 Watching, Netflix, watching money Heist. 975 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:44,300 I thinking. 976 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:45,400 Wow, 977 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,100 it's so Spanish, 978 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:47,700 everyone. 979 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,600 It's like a telenovela during a Big Heist, it's 980 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,900 crazy, but it's so 981 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:53,900 addictive. 982 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,600 I love Netflix, but, 983 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,000 you know, enough is enough 984 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,500 and 985 00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:59,600 we've missed that connection. 986 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:07,200 It's about connection, the human connection 987 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,800 that connection between performer and audience. 988 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,100 Stop cold here. 989 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,900 Last March 12th 990 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,800 back, when covid-19 still in act one and it 991 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,500 hasn't resume those Neon Lights On Broadway. 992 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,200 Still out practice. 993 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,000 All you want. 994 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,100 You can't get to Carnegie Hall for more than 995 00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:26,200 a year. 996 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,200 Now, there's been no business in Show Business. 997 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,000 Devastating to the nearly 100,000 New Yorkers who make 998 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,200 their living this way on stage back stage in 999 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,200 front of house 1000 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,100 Adam. 1001 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,000 Krauthammer heads, the city's you 1002 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,400 Union of 7,000, musicians, 1003 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,900 what's the unemployment rate? 1004 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:46,400 Among your members right now? 1005 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,900 So, right now, it's 95% unemployment, 95% unemployment, 1006 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,000 I think for people who work in the Arts, 1007 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,600 we were worried 1008 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,800 that we were losing jobs, right? But, my fear 1009 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200 is that we were losing careers. 1010 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,900 Did you see that firsthand? 1011 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,700 I've had members sell their homes. 1012 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,300 I've had members cell instruments. 1013 00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,000 There is precedent for 1014 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,300 Being artists in times of Crisis, 1015 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,300 coming out of the Great Depression, part of the 1016 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,100 New Deal, funded projects in Music, Theater and art. 1017 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:22,300 In this crisis performers, have largely had to go 1018 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,500 It Alone. 1019 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,100 This in an industry not exactly known for a 1020 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,800 stable business model. 1021 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Even in the best of times, the show, won't 1022 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,700 break, even and less audiences fill at least 80% 1023 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:35,000 of the seats. 1024 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 How many performances have canceled for you since the 1025 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,000 start of covid, I would say at least a 1026 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,900 hundred, if 1027 00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:42,400 Not a hundred and fifty. 1028 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,300 I mean the check stopped 1029 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,400 and 1030 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,800 you you saw 1031 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800 quite a stark contrast between 1032 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800 selling out in a title role at the Met 1033 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,200 and being on unemployment just a matter of months 1034 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400 later. 1035 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,400 I Adelie Castle. 1036 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Also, worried her career with lose momentum, 1037 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,900 permanently 1038 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:05,900 What happened 1039 00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:07,800 silence happened 1040 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,900 actually worse than silence. 1041 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:10,100 It was the 1042 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:13,000 phone call saying you know, we're canceling, we're canceling, 1043 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,800 we're canceling, 1044 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,800 this is income to, I'm guessing 1045 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,700 this is 1046 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:21,200 30 35 40 45 thousand dollars getting cancelled. 1047 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,700 You know that might not be a lot for 1048 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,500 other folks but like for an artist that's a 1049 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,600 lot of money to go out the window. 1050 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,300 And it almost took me down. 1051 00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:32,700 I for quick second thought. 1052 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,300 Maybe I've had a good run, 1053 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:35,400 you went to that spot. 1054 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,800 So I went to the, oh yeah, there was 1055 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400 like a good month or two where I was 1056 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,700 just like, I think seriously considering not not doing 1057 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:44,700 this in this way anymore, and just when I 1058 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:47,600 thought that I get the call for, you know, 1059 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,300 to do New York, pops up a creative plan 1060 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,700 for the creative class, New York pops up the 1061 00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:58,700 state program back by six million dollars is a 1062 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:00,400 Sort of cultural Band-Aid 1063 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200 aimed at reminding the public about the importance 1064 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,700 and joy of live art, 1065 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:07,100 like a pop-up store. 1066 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,900 The Arts version is temporary 1067 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:13,200 mobile and socially distant 1068 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,400 with an Eclectic mix of performers emerging in unlikely 1069 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,900 places. 1070 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:21,700 The sanitize setting for opening day, in February 1071 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,200 Manhattan's big convention facility. 1072 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,500 The thank you to those overseeing vaccinations. 1073 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:29,300 It was surreal, I'm not gonna lie, it was 1074 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,100 so surreal 1075 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:30,800 because when I, 1076 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,100 it's like, I remember when I 1077 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:37,100 stepped on stage, 1078 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,900 There was that moment of like, you know 1079 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,900 Applause I'm so happy 1080 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,500 to share my heart in my heart with you. 1081 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:46,000 There is there's nothing like it. 1082 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,400 I just felt like oh 1083 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,700 we're back. 1084 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:54,200 You know, just like that. 1085 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,200 After the Stage Show, Jon Batiste musician and bandleader 1086 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000 of cbs's The Late Show with Stephen Colbert 1087 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Pied, Piper the ragtag troupe through the streets of 1088 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:11,100 Brooklyn. 1089 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,000 You have this delicate instrument 1090 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,900 and then you've got a 1091 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,700 full horn, rendering it, 1092 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:18,200 we're over being precious with opera or even these 1093 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:18,900 instruments. 1094 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,100 I think it's about 1095 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:20,400 now. 1096 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,600 It's about the kind of fervor 1097 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,100 that exists and 1098 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,900 after all opera singing is just glorified screaming. 1099 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:28,300 So, 1100 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,600 My people in March, I had Ellie Cassell got 1101 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,100 some rehearsal time with fellow dancers, 1102 00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,900 albeit in The Frigid garage of her New Jersey 1103 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:39,900 home. 1104 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,500 I hadn't seen my friends and so long, I 1105 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,100 could cry thinking about it, 1106 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,400 but, um, 1107 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,100 I think I underestimated, 1108 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,700 you know 1109 00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:50,700 how much I missed them, you know, because 1110 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:52,900 we will stay in touch over the phone, but 1111 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,200 it's one thing to then 1112 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,600 be in the same space. 1113 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600 That 1114 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,600 was a really inspiring to me. 1115 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,600 That was awesome. 1116 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,200 She took the show on the road with New 1117 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,400 York pops up and went back to her old 1118 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000 stomping grounds in the Bronx. 1119 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,900 As well as Brooklyn and Queens 1120 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:13,600 turning up in museum, lobbies 1121 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,900 to the Happy surprise of visitors. 1122 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:20,700 Since then New York has loosened some restrictions on 1123 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:21,900 live performance 1124 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,300 audiences of up to a hundred fifty people can. 1125 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,700 Now gather indoors 1126 00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,600 and cultural institutions are trying to figure out how 1127 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,100 to make this work. 1128 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,500 We were there when the New York Philharmonic was 1129 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,700 reunited for the first time in a year with 1130 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,300 its conductor jaap van Sweden, 1131 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,800 a smaller Orchestra, socially distance and masked rehearsed for 1132 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,900 a virtual concert 1133 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,000 being a musician is not 1134 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,800 with all respect. 1135 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,900 It's not a job. 1136 00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:54,500 It is something 1137 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,600 you live for whole you life 1138 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,200 and 1139 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000 if that is Ben, 1140 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Taken away, 1141 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,700 that is not easy for us. 1142 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,100 And so we are extremely happy that we can 1143 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,000 be back 1144 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,100 on stage, 1145 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,000 but pop-ups and streaming gigs or baby steps. 1146 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,100 Back to work 1147 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:15,700 for only a fraction of New York's performing artists. 1148 00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:17,200 The larger question looms, 1149 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:25,100 when can theaters safely pack them in again? 1150 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100 Then you can head on inside. 1151 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:27,800 Thank you 1152 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,900 in early, April, the venerable st. 1153 00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,400 James Theater was the site of Broadway, soft reopen 1154 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,700 the audience proof of negative covid. 1155 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,100 Tests required set apart yet. 1156 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,300 Together one day only, 1157 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,400 I know Cabin Fever covid, brain, whatever. 1158 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000 But to watch Nathan Lane on a Bare Bones 1159 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000 set, he performed a monologue about fittingly a theater 1160 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,800 lover Exile from Broadway. 1161 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,400 I go on everything. 1162 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,700 A website and defend every version of Merrily, We 1163 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,400 Roll Along. 1164 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,400 Because at least it's an attempt 1165 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,700 with their special protocol. 1166 00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:05,800 You had to go through as a performer today. 1167 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,800 Special covid protocol. 1168 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,200 Yes, they hosed me down the I've been tested. 1169 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600 I've been tested so many times 1170 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,200 were there moments today when you were up there 1171 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600 and you sort of said, you know what this? 1172 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,000 All right? 1173 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,400 No. 1174 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:17,900 I was 1175 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,800 I'll tell you, honestly, I was like terrified 1176 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,200 why? Well, because there wasn't any real rehearsal, there 1177 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,300 was it first performance to the app you catch 1178 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:28,700 me tomorrow night. 1179 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,500 Do you want to come by the house? 1180 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,600 I'll try to get 1181 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,900 in her lost year. 1182 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:35,200 I had to like his cell, 1183 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,000 like so many artists has been thinking, about not, 1184 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,300 just how to bounce back. 1185 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,700 But about how to Lunge forward, 1186 00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:43,900 I would like to see 1187 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:45,500 what gets presented 1188 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,500 from here, on end to reflect what 1189 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,600 artist look like out in the world that they 1190 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,300 are more black people, and more 1191 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,800 Latino people, and more Asian people being represented 1192 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,800 creatively, 1193 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,200 not just on stage but 1194 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,800 It just everywhere around and behind and in front 1195 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,400 and in back just all over 1196 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,700 Anthony. 1197 00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:09,500 Ross costanzo has used his quiet period to make 1198 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:10,400 an album 1199 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,600 a style mash up with Cabaret singer. 1200 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,400 Justin Vivian Bond, 1201 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,800 and it's also got him thinking. 1202 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,700 He may not want to go back to the 1203 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:17,900 way. 1204 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,100 Things were 1205 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,900 we've decimated the Arts 1206 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,600 and we have an opportunity 1207 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,100 to rebuild them. 1208 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,900 Open doors, literally, 1209 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:26,900 literally, 1210 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:28,200 and not only 1211 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,000 Wars to rebuild the doorway 1212 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,400 and install a new door. 1213 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,100 Specifically, what are we talking about? Let's reinvent the 1214 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,600 concert going ritual. 1215 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,700 Let's put it on a pickup truck and take 1216 00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:38,400 it places. 1217 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,700 Go out of the concert hall out of the 1218 00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:41,700 Opera House 1219 00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,400 and create new experiences. 1220 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,200 Shut Scott. 1221 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,800 Rooted as Broadway, Fashions. 1222 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,800 It's restaging. 1223 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,200 There's already been a spasm of well 1224 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000 drama 1225 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,800 on Thursday, the theater Community. 1226 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,200 Rallied to demand accountability. 1227 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,000 They targeted. 1228 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,600 Producer Scott, Rudin 1229 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,900 a Broadway, Mogul 1230 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,400 and force behind New York pops up 1231 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,900 who announced he was stepping back after reports of 1232 00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:10,600 abusive behavior 1233 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,600 in a theater, 1234 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000 but the show must, of course, go on 1235 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,900 and Nathan Lane has one small, note, 1236 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:17,200 anything. 1237 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,400 You'd like to see 1238 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,500 not come back, 1239 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,500 cats 1240 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,300 cats, we don't need cash 1241 00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:23,900 enough with cats, 1242 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,000 they revived it 1243 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,400 with. 1244 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200 We, you know, we get the idea cats 1245 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,400 cats notwithstanding Broadway 1246 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,500 in New York's main stages are heading for a 1247 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:33,900 fall reopening. 1248 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:36,000 There's no precise date on the calendar 1249 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,800 and shows will need time to ramp up. 1250 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,100 There will be some light bulbs to change in 1251 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,800 some sets to dust off 1252 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,900 and perhaps a new appreciation, 1253 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:47,100 not just for the dollars and cents. 1254 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,500 But for the spiritual value in the Performing Arts, 1255 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,900 it's more than just 1256 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:54,100 a night out. 1257 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:54,800 It's a 1258 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,700 you know it's what the character says in the 1259 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:57,300 piece. 1260 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,600 I love theater. 1261 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,400 I can't explain it it's just when I have 1262 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,900 tickets to a show, it lifts my whole day, 1263 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:06,800 it's like a date 1264 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,300 with someone who might be wonderful. 1265 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:11,200 Oh might be boring 1266 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,700 or my change 1267 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,100 my life forever, 1268 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,100 you know? 1269 00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,700 I know. 1270 00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:19,500 So what 1271 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,100 I thought that for sure, was the end of 1272 00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,600 the interview, didn't you 1273 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,700 didn't? I didn't, I give him like the best 1274 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:35,400 ending to this thing. 1275 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,400 Next Sunday on 60 Minutes, 1276 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,100 the premonition 1277 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:39,400 writer. 1278 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,900 Michael Lewis has chronicled the insights of people with 1279 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:45,800 fresh ways of looking at familiar things, 1280 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,800 baseball 1281 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,900 Wall, Street 1282 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,700 college football and finance. 1283 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:53,000 John Dickerson talks with Michael Lewis 1284 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 about the doctors and scientists 1285 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,100 who saw the covid-19 pandemic coming, and they're frantic 1286 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:03,800 and ultimately futile attempts to sound the alarm. 1287 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,700 I'm Leslie Stahl will be back next week with 1288 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,900 another edition of 60 minutes.