1 00:00:13,813 --> 00:00:18,000 OF MUSEUMS WITH, LIBRARIES, AND CHURCHES IN UKRAINE -- >> LOOK AT THIS. >> -- IN WHAT SOME ARE CALLING A 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000 OF MUSEUMS WITH, LIBRARIES, AND CHURCHES IN UKRAINE -- >> LOOK AT THIS. >> -- IN WHAT SOME ARE CALLING A 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,624 OF MUSEUMS WITH, LIBRARIES, AND CHURCHES IN UKRAINE -- >> LOOK AT THIS. >> -- IN WHAT SOME ARE CALLING A 4 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:30,000 CULTURAL ENGINE SIDE. >> THE CULTURAL LEGACY, THE CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS IS WHAT MAKE US REACH, AND WHAT WE HAVE 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,797 CULTURAL ENGINE SIDE. >> THE CULTURAL LEGACY, THE CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS IS WHAT MAKE US REACH, AND WHAT WE HAVE 6 00:00:30,864 --> 00:00:36,000 TO PROTECT AND PASS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. BECAUSE THE RUSSIA TRIES TO DESTROY OUR FUTURE. 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,474 TO PROTECT AND PASS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. BECAUSE THE RUSSIA TRIES TO DESTROY OUR FUTURE. 8 00:00:41,541 --> 00:00:42,000 >>> I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR EXHALED BREATH. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,113 >>> I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR EXHALED BREATH. 10 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:48,000 >> IT MAY BE THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY FROM THE PANDEMIC. OUR INDOOR AIR NEEDS TO BE VENTILATED AND FILTERED AT A 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,286 >> IT MAY BE THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY FROM THE PANDEMIC. OUR INDOOR AIR NEEDS TO BE VENTILATED AND FILTERED AT A 12 00:00:53,353 --> 00:00:54,000 MUCH HIGHER LEVEL. >> THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH GAINS WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS. 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,025 MUCH HIGHER LEVEL. >> THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH GAINS WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS. 14 00:00:59,092 --> 00:01:00,000 WHERE HAS INDOOR AIR BEEN IN THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THE PANDEMIC SHOWED WHAT A 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,865 WHERE HAS INDOOR AIR BEEN IN THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THE PANDEMIC SHOWED WHAT A 16 00:01:05,932 --> 00:01:06,000 GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. >>> WAIT -- >> WINNING AND LOSING MONEY, FOR MILLIONS OF FANS LIKE THESE 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,000 GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. >>> WAIT -- >> WINNING AND LOSING MONEY, FOR MILLIONS OF FANS LIKE THESE 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,742 GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. >>> WAIT -- >> WINNING AND LOSING MONEY, FOR MILLIONS OF FANS LIKE THESE 19 00:01:15,809 --> 00:01:18,000 GUYS, IT'S ONE MORE REASON TO WATCH AND ENJOY SPORTS. BUT FOR OTHERS, IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES. 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,714 GUYS, IT'S ONE MORE REASON TO WATCH AND ENJOY SPORTS. BUT FOR OTHERS, IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES. 21 00:01:21,781 --> 00:01:24,000 60% OF ONLINE BETTERS ARE YOUNG MEN AND IT'S A SAFE BET THAT MANY OF THEM ARE ADDICTED AND LOSING. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,488 60% OF ONLINE BETTERS ARE YOUNG MEN AND IT'S A SAFE BET THAT MANY OF THEM ARE ADDICTED AND LOSING. 23 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:30,000 >> WHERE ARE THE YOUNG MEN GETTING THE MONEY TO GAMBLE LIKE THIS? >> I HAVE PATIENTS, SOME OF THEM 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,693 >> WHERE ARE THE YOUNG MEN GETTING THE MONEY TO GAMBLE LIKE THIS? >> I HAVE PATIENTS, SOME OF THEM 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,000 ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO HAVE GAMBLED FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN MONEY. I HAVE YOUNG PATIENTS WHO HAVE 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,331 ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO HAVE GAMBLED FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN MONEY. I HAVE YOUNG PATIENTS WHO HAVE 27 00:01:38,398 --> 00:01:42,000 GAMBLED AWAY INHERITANCES. >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,271 GAMBLED AWAY INHERITANCES. >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 29 00:01:45,338 --> 00:01:48,000 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,278 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. 31 00:01:52,345 --> 00:01:54,000 THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON >>> IN OCTOBER, A U.N. REPORT FOUND NEW EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA HAD COMMITTED WAR CRIMES IN 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,000 THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON >>> IN OCTOBER, A U.N. REPORT FOUND NEW EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA HAD COMMITTED WAR CRIMES IN 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,000 THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON >>> IN OCTOBER, A U.N. REPORT FOUND NEW EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA HAD COMMITTED WAR CRIMES IN 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,227 THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON >>> IN OCTOBER, A U.N. REPORT FOUND NEW EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA HAD COMMITTED WAR CRIMES IN 35 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:12,000 UKRAINE WITH DELIBERATE KILLINGS AND WIDESPREAD USE OF TORTURE, BUT THEY HAVE YET TO EXAMINE THE INTENTIONAL INSTRUCTION OF 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,368 UKRAINE WITH DELIBERATE KILLINGS AND WIDESPREAD USE OF TORTURE, BUT THEY HAVE YET TO EXAMINE THE INTENTIONAL INSTRUCTION OF 37 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:18,000 CULTURAL PROPERTY, WHICH ALSO IS A WAR CRIME. UKRAINE ACCUSES RUSSIAN FORCES OF TARGETING CHURCHES, 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,875 CULTURAL PROPERTY, WHICH ALSO IS A WAR CRIME. UKRAINE ACCUSES RUSSIAN FORCES OF TARGETING CHURCHES, 39 00:02:21,941 --> 00:02:24,000 LIBRARIES, AND LOOTING THE COUNTRY'S MOST IMPORTANT MUSEUMS. AND WHILE PLUNDER IS AS OLD AS 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,015 LIBRARIES, AND LOOTING THE COUNTRY'S MOST IMPORTANT MUSEUMS. AND WHILE PLUNDER IS AS OLD AS 41 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:30,000 WAR ITSELF, UKRAINIAN INVESTIGATORS SAY THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT. THEY SEE A CAMPAIGN OF CULTURAL 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,855 WAR ITSELF, UKRAINIAN INVESTIGATORS SAY THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT. THEY SEE A CAMPAIGN OF CULTURAL 43 00:02:35,922 --> 00:02:36,000 GENOCIDE, TO DESTROY UKRAINE'S IDENTITY AS A NATION. AS WE REPORTED IN NOVEMBER, A NETWORK OF CULTURAL WARRIORS IN 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,000 GENOCIDE, TO DESTROY UKRAINE'S IDENTITY AS A NATION. AS WE REPORTED IN NOVEMBER, A NETWORK OF CULTURAL WARRIORS IN 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,931 GENOCIDE, TO DESTROY UKRAINE'S IDENTITY AS A NATION. AS WE REPORTED IN NOVEMBER, A NETWORK OF CULTURAL WARRIORS IN 46 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:48,000 UKRAINE IS BUILDING THE CASE AGAINST RUSSIA. IT'S A HERITAGE WAR, ONE TOLD US. 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,801 UKRAINE IS BUILDING THE CASE AGAINST RUSSIA. IT'S A HERITAGE WAR, ONE TOLD US. 48 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:54,000 AND WE JOINED THEM ON THE FRONT LINES. >> NOT MUCH WAS LEFT OF THE TINY VILLAGE OF VIAZIVKA A FEW HOURS 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:00,000 AND WE JOINED THEM ON THE FRONT LINES. >> NOT MUCH WAS LEFT OF THE TINY VILLAGE OF VIAZIVKA A FEW HOURS 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 AND WE JOINED THEM ON THE FRONT LINES. >> NOT MUCH WAS LEFT OF THE TINY VILLAGE OF VIAZIVKA A FEW HOURS 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,019 AND WE JOINED THEM ON THE FRONT LINES. >> NOT MUCH WAS LEFT OF THE TINY VILLAGE OF VIAZIVKA A FEW HOURS 52 00:03:06,085 --> 00:03:10,156 NORTHWEST OF KYIV, AFTER RUSSIAN FORCES OVERWHELMED THE REGION IN 2022. BUT WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR 53 00:03:10,223 --> 00:03:12,000 THIS -- >> MY GOD. SO I HOR, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? >> LIBERATION OF UKRAINE BY 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,000 THIS -- >> MY GOD. SO I HOR, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? >> LIBERATION OF UKRAINE BY 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,731 THIS -- >> MY GOD. SO I HOR, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? >> LIBERATION OF UKRAINE BY 56 00:03:18,798 --> 00:03:24,000 RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FORCES, YOU SEE WHAT THIS LIBERATION MEANS? >> WHY WOULD THEY TARGET A CHURCH? 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,872 RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FORCES, YOU SEE WHAT THIS LIBERATION MEANS? >> WHY WOULD THEY TARGET A CHURCH? 58 00:03:25,939 --> 00:03:30,000 >> IN THE SMALL VILLAGE, THIS WAS THE MAIN PLACE, AND IT WAS TARGETED JUST TO DESTROY WHAT KEEPS THE WHOLE VILLAGE AND THE 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,246 >> IN THE SMALL VILLAGE, THIS WAS THE MAIN PLACE, AND IT WAS TARGETED JUST TO DESTROY WHAT KEEPS THE WHOLE VILLAGE AND THE 60 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:36,000 WHOLE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. >> IHOR POSHYVAILO IS DIRECTOR OF THE CONTEMPORARY MAIDEN MUSEUM IN KYIV. 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:42,000 WHOLE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. >> IHOR POSHYVAILO IS DIRECTOR OF THE CONTEMPORARY MAIDEN MUSEUM IN KYIV. 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,492 WHOLE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. >> IHOR POSHYVAILO IS DIRECTOR OF THE CONTEMPORARY MAIDEN MUSEUM IN KYIV. 63 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:48,000 HE'D BROUGHT US TO SEE THE CARCASS OF THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY ON UKRAINE'S HERITAGE LIST. 64 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,899 HE'D BROUGHT US TO SEE THE CARCASS OF THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY ON UKRAINE'S HERITAGE LIST. 65 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:54,000 POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THE RUSSIANS HAD DELIBERATELY SHELLED IT WHEN THEY RETREATED, THERE WAS NO FIGHTING NEARBY. 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,804 POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THE RUSSIANS HAD DELIBERATELY SHELLED IT WHEN THEY RETREATED, THERE WAS NO FIGHTING NEARBY. 67 00:03:57,870 --> 00:04:00,000 BUILT IN 1862, THE CHURCH HAD SURVIVED TWO WORLD WARS, COMMUNISM, AND A REVOLUTION, BUT NOT THIS. 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,645 BUILT IN 1862, THE CHURCH HAD SURVIVED TWO WORLD WARS, COMMUNISM, AND A REVOLUTION, BUT NOT THIS. 69 00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:06,000 >> SO WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIANS WERE TRYING TO SEND BY DESTROYING THIS CHURCH? >> WE ARE STRONG. 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,000 >> SO WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIANS WERE TRYING TO SEND BY DESTROYING THIS CHURCH? >> WE ARE STRONG. 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,822 >> SO WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIANS WERE TRYING TO SEND BY DESTROYING THIS CHURCH? >> WE ARE STRONG. 72 00:04:15,888 --> 00:04:18,000 WUSHD YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF US AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE DON'T NEED YOU ON THIS LAND. 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,160 WUSHD YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF US AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE DON'T NEED YOU ON THIS LAND. 74 00:04:21,227 --> 00:04:24,000 WE DON'T NEED YOUR TRANSITIONS, YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR CULTURE. YOU DO NOT EXIST. >> ERASE YOU? 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,800 WE DON'T NEED YOUR TRANSITIONS, YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR CULTURE. YOU DO NOT EXIST. >> ERASE YOU? 76 00:04:27,867 --> 00:04:30,000 >> ERASE YOU, EXACTLY. >> AS WE SIFTED THROUGH THE WRECKAGE, POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THE CHURCH HAD BEEN FAMOUS 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,307 >> ERASE YOU, EXACTLY. >> AS WE SIFTED THROUGH THE WRECKAGE, POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THE CHURCH HAD BEEN FAMOUS 78 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:36,000 FOR ITS UNIQUE CENTURIES-OLD FOLK ART. >> YES AND YOU CAN SEE THEY STILL HAVE -- 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,814 FOR ITS UNIQUE CENTURIES-OLD FOLK ART. >> YES AND YOU CAN SEE THEY STILL HAVE -- 80 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:42,000 >> LOOK AT THIS. >> Reporter: HE TOLD US THIS WAS ONE OF 700 CHURCHES THAT HAVE BEEN SIT SO FAR. 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,086 >> LOOK AT THIS. >> Reporter: HE TOLD US THIS WAS ONE OF 700 CHURCHES THAT HAVE BEEN SIT SO FAR. 82 00:04:47,153 --> 00:04:48,000 SOME WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE, MANY WERE NOT. TO DOCUMENT THE DESTRUCTION, POSHYVAILO CO-FOUNDED THE 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,000 SOME WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE, MANY WERE NOT. TO DOCUMENT THE DESTRUCTION, POSHYVAILO CO-FOUNDED THE 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,594 SOME WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE, MANY WERE NOT. TO DOCUMENT THE DESTRUCTION, POSHYVAILO CO-FOUNDED THE 85 00:04:54,661 --> 00:05:00,000 HERITAGE EMERGENCY RESPONSE INITIATIVE, A SORT OF CULTURAL S.W.A.T. TEAM THAT TRAVELS TO DAMAGED SITES, INTERVIEWING 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,634 HERITAGE EMERGENCY RESPONSE INITIATIVE, A SORT OF CULTURAL S.W.A.T. TEAM THAT TRAVELS TO DAMAGED SITES, INTERVIEWING 87 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:06,000 EYEWITNESSS AND SAVING WHAT THEY CAN. >> IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR ME, BECAUSE EVERY MORNING I GET UP 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,940 EYEWITNESSS AND SAVING WHAT THEY CAN. >> IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR ME, BECAUSE EVERY MORNING I GET UP 89 00:05:08,007 --> 00:05:12,000 AND I THINK THAT IT'S -- IT'S NOT REALITY, WHAT WE HAVE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE FEELINGS THAT WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE. 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,482 AND I THINK THAT IT'S -- IT'S NOT REALITY, WHAT WE HAVE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE FEELINGS THAT WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE. 91 00:05:16,549 --> 00:05:18,000 >> NEVER FORGIVE? >> WE'LL NEVER FORGIVE. I MEAN, THE CULTURAL LEGACY, CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS IS WHAT 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,000 >> NEVER FORGIVE? >> WE'LL NEVER FORGIVE. I MEAN, THE CULTURAL LEGACY, CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS IS WHAT 93 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,657 >> NEVER FORGIVE? >> WE'LL NEVER FORGIVE. I MEAN, THE CULTURAL LEGACY, CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS IS WHAT 94 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:30,000 MAKES US RICH AND WHAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT AND PASS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. THAT'S WHY I CAN SEE IT'S ONE OF 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,365 MAKES US RICH AND WHAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT AND PASS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. THAT'S WHY I CAN SEE IT'S ONE OF 96 00:05:32,432 --> 00:05:36,000 THE FRONT LINES IN THIS WAR. BECAUSE DESTROYING OUR PAST, RUSSIANS TRIES TO DESTROY OUR FUTURE. 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,172 THE FRONT LINES IN THIS WAR. BECAUSE DESTROYING OUR PAST, RUSSIANS TRIES TO DESTROY OUR FUTURE. 98 00:05:39,238 --> 00:05:42,000 >> Reporter: IT'S NOT ONLY CHURCHES, HUNDREDS OF MUSEUMS, LIBRARIES, AND MONUMENTS HAVE BEEN BOMBED, BURNED, OR SHELLED. 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,046 >> Reporter: IT'S NOT ONLY CHURCHES, HUNDREDS OF MUSEUMS, LIBRARIES, AND MONUMENTS HAVE BEEN BOMBED, BURNED, OR SHELLED. 100 00:05:47,113 --> 00:05:48,000 IN 2022, THE RUSSIANS RAZED THIS SMALL FOLK MUSEUM NEAR KYIV TO THE GROUND. NEARBY BUILDINGS WERE UNTOUCHED. 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,000 IN 2022, THE RUSSIANS RAZED THIS SMALL FOLK MUSEUM NEAR KYIV TO THE GROUND. NEARBY BUILDINGS WERE UNTOUCHED. 102 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,956 IN 2022, THE RUSSIANS RAZED THIS SMALL FOLK MUSEUM NEAR KYIV TO THE GROUND. NEARBY BUILDINGS WERE UNTOUCHED. 103 00:05:57,023 --> 00:06:00,000 FARTHER EAST, RUSSIAN ARTILLERY DESTROYED THIS MUSEUM. LOCATION CARRIED OUT THE ONLY SURVIVING STATUE OF ITS PATRON 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,230 FARTHER EAST, RUSSIAN ARTILLERY DESTROYED THIS MUSEUM. LOCATION CARRIED OUT THE ONLY SURVIVING STATUE OF ITS PATRON 105 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:06,000 SAINT LIKE A WOUNDED PATIENT. POSHYVAILO AND OTHERS TOLD US THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STRATEGY THAT COMES STRAIGHT 106 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,000 SAINT LIKE A WOUNDED PATIENT. POSHYVAILO AND OTHERS TOLD US THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STRATEGY THAT COMES STRAIGHT 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,706 SAINT LIKE A WOUNDED PATIENT. POSHYVAILO AND OTHERS TOLD US THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STRATEGY THAT COMES STRAIGHT 108 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:18,000 FROM THE KREMLIN. FOR YEARS, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS PUBLICLY DISMISSED UKRAINE'S RIGHT TO 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,679 FROM THE KREMLIN. FOR YEARS, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS PUBLICLY DISMISSED UKRAINE'S RIGHT TO 110 00:06:19,746 --> 00:06:24,000 EXIST AT ALL. WE ARE ALL RUSSIANS, HE SAID. MANY HUMAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, EVEN KIDNAPPED BY 111 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,386 EXIST AT ALL. WE ARE ALL RUSSIANS, HE SAID. MANY HUMAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, EVEN KIDNAPPED BY 112 00:06:27,453 --> 00:06:30,000 RUSSIAN SOLDIERS. >> YOU DON'T USUALLY THINK OF MUSEUM WORKERS AS BEING IN DANGER. 113 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000 RUSSIAN SOLDIERS. >> YOU DON'T USUALLY THINK OF MUSEUM WORKERS AS BEING IN DANGER. 114 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,363 RUSSIAN SOLDIERS. >> YOU DON'T USUALLY THINK OF MUSEUM WORKERS AS BEING IN DANGER. 115 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:42,000 >> THEY ARE AMONGST THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT RUSSIANS COME FOR. >> WHY? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE 116 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,736 >> THEY ARE AMONGST THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT RUSSIANS COME FOR. >> WHY? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE 117 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:48,000 INTERESTED IN THE COLLECTIONS. WHERE DID THEY HIDE THE COLLECTIONS? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,642 INTERESTED IN THE COLLECTIONS. WHERE DID THEY HIDE THE COLLECTIONS? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE 119 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:54,000 COLLECTION? AND THE SECOND REASON IS, MUSEUM WORKERS ARE LEADERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,248 COLLECTION? AND THE SECOND REASON IS, MUSEUM WORKERS ARE LEADERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. 121 00:06:55,314 --> 00:07:00,000 >> MILENA CHORNA IS HEAD OF INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITS AT THE NATIONAL WAR MUSEUM IN KYIV. SHE HELPED SET UP A MUSEUM 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,388 >> MILENA CHORNA IS HEAD OF INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITS AT THE NATIONAL WAR MUSEUM IN KYIV. SHE HELPED SET UP A MUSEUM 123 00:07:02,455 --> 00:07:06,000 CRISIS HOTLINE FOR WORKERS IN THE WAR ZONE, TRYING TO SAVE THEIR COLLECTIONS. THEY WERE SOON SWAMPD WITH CALLS 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,462 CRISIS HOTLINE FOR WORKERS IN THE WAR ZONE, TRYING TO SAVE THEIR COLLECTIONS. THEY WERE SOON SWAMPD WITH CALLS 125 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:12,000 FOR HELP, SENDING MONEY FOR RUSSIAN BRIBES, DEVISING ESCAPE ROUTES, HIDING PAINTINGS, AND SOMETIMES JUST TO TALK. 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 FOR HELP, SENDING MONEY FOR RUSSIAN BRIBES, DEVISING ESCAPE ROUTES, HIDING PAINTINGS, AND SOMETIMES JUST TO TALK. 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,842 FOR HELP, SENDING MONEY FOR RUSSIAN BRIBES, DEVISING ESCAPE ROUTES, HIDING PAINTINGS, AND SOMETIMES JUST TO TALK. 128 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:24,000 >> YOU CUT OFF ALL OF YOUR EMOTIONS, TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO HELP. PUTTING IT ALL THROUGH YOURSELF, 129 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,880 >> YOU CUT OFF ALL OF YOUR EMOTIONS, TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO HELP. PUTTING IT ALL THROUGH YOURSELF, 130 00:07:27,947 --> 00:07:30,000 IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT. AND AT SOME POINT YOU REALIZE THAT, YEAH, THAT YOU HAVE PTSD ALREADY, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVEN'T 131 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,586 IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT. AND AT SOME POINT YOU REALIZE THAT, YEAH, THAT YOU HAVE PTSD ALREADY, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVEN'T 132 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:36,000 BEEN TO THE FOREFRONT. >> Reporter: MILENA CHORNA TOLD US THAT MANY WORKERS ACTUALLY MOVED INTO THEIR MUSEUMS TO HELP 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:42,000 BEEN TO THE FOREFRONT. >> Reporter: MILENA CHORNA TOLD US THAT MANY WORKERS ACTUALLY MOVED INTO THEIR MUSEUMS TO HELP 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,095 BEEN TO THE FOREFRONT. >> Reporter: MILENA CHORNA TOLD US THAT MANY WORKERS ACTUALLY MOVED INTO THEIR MUSEUMS TO HELP 135 00:07:43,162 --> 00:07:48,000 GUARD THE COLLECTIONS, HAVE EVE THE WOMANS FELL. IN THE NORTH, DURING THE SIEGE OF CHEER INITIATIVE, SHE TOLD US 136 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,000 GUARD THE COLLECTIONS, HAVE EVE THE WOMANS FELL. IN THE NORTH, DURING THE SIEGE OF CHEER INITIATIVE, SHE TOLD US 137 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,311 GUARD THE COLLECTIONS, HAVE EVE THE WOMANS FELL. IN THE NORTH, DURING THE SIEGE OF CHEER INITIATIVE, SHE TOLD US 138 00:07:58,377 --> 00:08:00,000 ABOUT ONE MUSEUM WORKER WHO MOVED IN WITH HER 8-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. THERE WAS NO ELECTRICITY, NO 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,215 ABOUT ONE MUSEUM WORKER WHO MOVED IN WITH HER 8-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. THERE WAS NO ELECTRICITY, NO 140 00:08:02,281 --> 00:08:06,000 WATER, NO HEAT. >> WHEN IT GOT REALLY BAD -- >> Reporter: WEEKS LATER, VOLUNTEERS TRYING TO DELIVER A 141 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,554 WATER, NO HEAT. >> WHEN IT GOT REALLY BAD -- >> Reporter: WEEKS LATER, VOLUNTEERS TRYING TO DELIVER A 142 00:08:08,621 --> 00:08:11,390 GENERATOR TO THE MUSEUM WERE KILLED. >> SHE STAYED? >> SHE STAYED. 143 00:08:11,457 --> 00:08:12,000 SHE STAYED UNTIL THE LIBERATION, YES. AND NOW SHE IS IN THE ARMY. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,661 SHE STAYED UNTIL THE LIBERATION, YES. AND NOW SHE IS IN THE ARMY. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? 145 00:08:15,728 --> 00:08:18,000 >> I THINK AT SOME POINT SHE MIGHT HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 146 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,801 >> I THINK AT SOME POINT SHE MIGHT HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 147 00:08:21,868 --> 00:08:24,000 AND AT SOME POINT, WE WILL ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. WE MIGHT ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,000 AND AT SOME POINT, WE WILL ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. WE MIGHT ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. 149 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,477 AND AT SOME POINT, WE WILL ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. WE MIGHT ALL HAVE TO BECOME SOLDIERS. 150 00:08:31,544 --> 00:08:36,000 >> Reporter: UKRAINE HAS ACCUSED RUSSIA OF LOOTING MORE THAN 30 MUSEUMS, CALLING IT THE BIGGEST ART THEFT SINCE THE NAZIS IN 151 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,954 >> Reporter: UKRAINE HAS ACCUSED RUSSIA OF LOOTING MORE THAN 30 MUSEUMS, CALLING IT THE BIGGEST ART THEFT SINCE THE NAZIS IN 152 00:08:42,021 --> 00:08:48,000 WORLD WAR II. IN KHERSON, RUSSIAN SOLDIERS CUT PAINTINGS FROM FRAMES, DRAGGED OUT PRICELESS ANTIQUES, AND 153 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,060 WORLD WAR II. IN KHERSON, RUSSIAN SOLDIERS CUT PAINTINGS FROM FRAMES, DRAGGED OUT PRICELESS ANTIQUES, AND 154 00:08:48,127 --> 00:08:54,000 CLEANED OUT MORE THAN 10,000 WORKS OF ART. EVEN SO, CHORNA TOLD US, MANY MUSEUM WORKERS WOULDN'T LEAVE. 155 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,134 CLEANED OUT MORE THAN 10,000 WORKS OF ART. EVEN SO, CHORNA TOLD US, MANY MUSEUM WORKERS WOULDN'T LEAVE. 156 00:08:55,201 --> 00:09:00,000 >> HOW CAN I LEAVE THESE THINGS TO BE LOOTED OR DESTROYED, IF I KNOW IT'S THE HISTORY THAT WILL LAST FOR GENERATIONS?% 157 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,973 >> HOW CAN I LEAVE THESE THINGS TO BE LOOTED OR DESTROYED, IF I KNOW IT'S THE HISTORY THAT WILL LAST FOR GENERATIONS?% 158 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,000 >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PASSION TO ME? >> I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT EMOTIONS, BUT I 159 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:12,000 >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PASSION TO ME? >> I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT EMOTIONS, BUT I 160 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,051 >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PASSION TO ME? >> I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT EMOTIONS, BUT I 161 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:18,000 THINK THAT, UM -- WELL, SPEAKING OF MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VALUE OF THESE ITEMS, IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN THE PRICE OF MY 162 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 THINK THAT, UM -- WELL, SPEAKING OF MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VALUE OF THESE ITEMS, IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN THE PRICE OF MY 163 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,264 THINK THAT, UM -- WELL, SPEAKING OF MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VALUE OF THESE ITEMS, IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN THE PRICE OF MY 164 00:09:25,331 --> 00:09:30,000 LIFE. >> HIGHER THAN THE PRICE OF YOUR LIFE? >> YES. 165 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,970 LIFE. >> HIGHER THAN THE PRICE OF YOUR LIFE? >> YES. 166 00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:36,000 YES, BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF AFFECT THSE ARTIFACTS CAN HAVE ON FUTURE GENERATIONS, IT'S UNCOMPARABLE TO THE SCOPE OF 167 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:42,000 YES, BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF AFFECT THSE ARTIFACTS CAN HAVE ON FUTURE GENERATIONS, IT'S UNCOMPARABLE TO THE SCOPE OF 168 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,281 YES, BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF AFFECT THSE ARTIFACTS CAN HAVE ON FUTURE GENERATIONS, IT'S UNCOMPARABLE TO THE SCOPE OF 169 00:09:42,348 --> 00:09:48,000 AFFECT THAT ME, MYSELF, A SINGLE PERSON, CAN DO FOR THE CULTURE. >> Reporter: CHORNA TOLD US A TOP RUSSIAN TARGET WAS UKRAINE'S 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,889 AFFECT THAT ME, MYSELF, A SINGLE PERSON, CAN DO FOR THE CULTURE. >> Reporter: CHORNA TOLD US A TOP RUSSIAN TARGET WAS UKRAINE'S 171 00:09:49,956 --> 00:09:54,000 PRICELESS SCYTHIAN GOLD COLLECTION AT THE MELITOPOL MUSEUM. MUSEUM WORKERS HASTILY HID THE 172 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:00,000 PRICELESS SCYTHIAN GOLD COLLECTION AT THE MELITOPOL MUSEUM. MUSEUM WORKERS HASTILY HID THE 173 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,002 PRICELESS SCYTHIAN GOLD COLLECTION AT THE MELITOPOL MUSEUM. MUSEUM WORKERS HASTILY HID THE 174 00:10:03,069 --> 00:10:06,000 TREASURES IN CARDBOARD BOXES IN THE MUSEUM'S DANK UNFINISHED BASEMENT. WHEN THE RUSSIANS INVADED, THEY 175 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,606 TREASURES IN CARDBOARD BOXES IN THE MUSEUM'S DANK UNFINISHED BASEMENT. WHEN THE RUSSIANS INVADED, THEY 176 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:12,000 WASTED NO TIME BEFORE HEADING TO THE MUSEUM, THREATENING TO SHOOT THE LOCKS OFF THE DOOR TO BREAK IN. 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,144 WASTED NO TIME BEFORE HEADING TO THE MUSEUM, THREATENING TO SHOOT THE LOCKS OFF THE DOOR TO BREAK IN. 178 00:10:12,211 --> 00:10:18,000 THIS CCTV FOOTAGE, NEVER BROADCAST BEFORE, SHOWS THE RUSSIANS HARASSING EMPLOYEES, SEARCHING THE MUSEUM, STASHING 179 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,751 THIS CCTV FOOTAGE, NEVER BROADCAST BEFORE, SHOWS THE RUSSIANS HARASSING EMPLOYEES, SEARCHING THE MUSEUM, STASHING 180 00:10:18,818 --> 00:10:24,000 WHAT THEY TOOK IN WHITE CLOSTH SACKS. THAT MORNING, THEY LEFT WITHOUT FINDING THE GOLD. 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,059 WHAT THEY TOOK IN WHITE CLOSTH SACKS. THAT MORNING, THEY LEFT WITHOUT FINDING THE GOLD. 182 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:30,000 UNDETERRED, A GROUP OF SOLDIERS TURNED UP AT THE DOOR OF MUSEUM DIRECTOR, LEILA INBRAHIMOVA AND KIDNAPPED HER. 183 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:36,000 UNDETERRED, A GROUP OF SOLDIERS TURNED UP AT THE DOOR OF MUSEUM DIRECTOR, LEILA INBRAHIMOVA AND KIDNAPPED HER. 184 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,872 UNDETERRED, A GROUP OF SOLDIERS TURNED UP AT THE DOOR OF MUSEUM DIRECTOR, LEILA INBRAHIMOVA AND KIDNAPPED HER. 185 00:10:39,939 --> 00:10:42,000 >> THEY PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD AND KIDNAPPED YOU? >> Reporter: I WAS VERY SCARED, SHE TOLD US. 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,179 >> THEY PUT A BAG OVER YOUR HEAD AND KIDNAPPED YOU? >> Reporter: I WAS VERY SCARED, SHE TOLD US. 187 00:10:47,246 --> 00:10:48,000 THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM. THEY WERE WEARING BAKLAVAS AND CARRIED MACHINE GUNS. ONE SOLDIER DID ALL THE TALKING. 188 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,000 THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM. THEY WERE WEARING BAKLAVAS AND CARRIED MACHINE GUNS. ONE SOLDIER DID ALL THE TALKING. 189 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,000 THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM. THEY WERE WEARING BAKLAVAS AND CARRIED MACHINE GUNS. ONE SOLDIER DID ALL THE TALKING. 190 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,193 THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM. THEY WERE WEARING BAKLAVAS AND CARRIED MACHINE GUNS. ONE SOLDIER DID ALL THE TALKING. 191 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:06,000 THEY TURNED MY HOUSE UPSIDE DOWN, THEN PUT A BAG OVER MY HOLD AND PUT ME IN A CAR. INRA HEE MOVA IS IN HIDING SO WE 192 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,635 THEY TURNED MY HOUSE UPSIDE DOWN, THEN PUT A BAG OVER MY HOLD AND PUT ME IN A CAR. INRA HEE MOVA IS IN HIDING SO WE 193 00:11:09,702 --> 00:11:12,000 AGREED NOT TO SHOW HER FACE. SHE TOLD US THE RUSSIANS INTERROGATED HER ABOUT THE MUSEUM BUT SHE REFUSED TO 194 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,707 AGREED NOT TO SHOW HER FACE. SHE TOLD US THE RUSSIANS INTERROGATED HER ABOUT THE MUSEUM BUT SHE REFUSED TO 195 00:11:14,774 --> 00:11:18,000 COOPERATE. THEY LET HER GO BUT, BUT WHEN HER NAME LATER SURFACED ON A RUSSIAN EXECUTION LIST, SHE FLED 196 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,181 COOPERATE. THEY LET HER GO BUT, BUT WHEN HER NAME LATER SURFACED ON A RUSSIAN EXECUTION LIST, SHE FLED 197 00:11:22,248 --> 00:11:24,000 THE COUNTRY. MY LIFE WAS AT RISK, SHE TOLD US, AND STAYING WOULD JEOPARDIZE MY COLLEAGUES, MY FAMILY. 198 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,887 THE COUNTRY. MY LIFE WAS AT RISK, SHE TOLD US, AND STAYING WOULD JEOPARDIZE MY COLLEAGUES, MY FAMILY. 199 00:11:27,953 --> 00:11:30,000 I WAS AFRAID MY HUSBAND AND SON WOULD BE SEARCHED AGAIN. IN THE END, THE RUSSIANS FOUND THE GOLD. 200 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,000 I WAS AFRAID MY HUSBAND AND SON WOULD BE SEARCHED AGAIN. IN THE END, THE RUSSIANS FOUND THE GOLD. 201 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,663 I WAS AFRAID MY HUSBAND AND SON WOULD BE SEARCHED AGAIN. IN THE END, THE RUSSIANS FOUND THE GOLD. 202 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:42,000 1 # 199 ANCIENT GOLD ARTIFACTS WORTH UNTOLD MILLIONS. THE RUSSIANS' PLUNDER HAS ALL 203 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,037 1 # 199 ANCIENT GOLD ARTIFACTS WORTH UNTOLD MILLIONS. THE RUSSIANS' PLUNDER HAS ALL 204 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:48,000 THE EAR MARKS OF A WAR CRIME, ACCORDING TO VITALIY TYTYCH, A CRIMINAL LAWYER OF 30 YEARS. WHAT TELLS YOU THAT THIS WS 205 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,745 THE EAR MARKS OF A WAR CRIME, ACCORDING TO VITALIY TYTYCH, A CRIMINAL LAWYER OF 30 YEARS. WHAT TELLS YOU THAT THIS WS 206 00:11:52,812 --> 00:11:54,000 DELIBERATE? >> HE LEADS A NEW UNIT OF UKRAINIAN MILITARY INVESTIGATING RUSSIA'S TARGETING OF HERITAGE 207 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,384 DELIBERATE? >> HE LEADS A NEW UNIT OF UKRAINIAN MILITARY INVESTIGATING RUSSIA'S TARGETING OF HERITAGE 208 00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:00,000 SITES. INTENTIONALLY LOOTING OR DESTROYING CULTURAL PROPERTY DURING A WAR IS A CRIME. 209 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,321 SITES. INTENTIONALLY LOOTING OR DESTROYING CULTURAL PROPERTY DURING A WAR IS A CRIME. 210 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:06,000 BUT TYTYCH TOLD US, THE RUSSIANS HAVE FLIPPED THE LAW ON ITS HEAD. THE RUSSIANS KEEP SAYING THEY'RE 211 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,260 BUT TYTYCH TOLD US, THE RUSSIANS HAVE FLIPPED THE LAW ON ITS HEAD. THE RUSSIANS KEEP SAYING THEY'RE 212 00:12:08,327 --> 00:12:12,000 EVACUATING THESE ARTIFACTS TO SAFEGUARD THEM DURING THE FIGHTING, HE TOLD US, AND THEY WILL RETURN THEM WHEN THE WAR IS 213 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,234 EVACUATING THESE ARTIFACTS TO SAFEGUARD THEM DURING THE FIGHTING, HE TOLD US, AND THEY WILL RETURN THEM WHEN THE WAR IS 214 00:12:15,301 --> 00:12:18,000 OVER. THAT IS A LIE AND WE ARE READY TO PROVE IDENTIT.. BUT TYTYCH TOLD US, HE'S UNDER 215 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,000 OVER. THAT IS A LIE AND WE ARE READY TO PROVE IDENTIT.. BUT TYTYCH TOLD US, HE'S UNDER 216 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,779 OVER. THAT IS A LIE AND WE ARE READY TO PROVE IDENTIT.. BUT TYTYCH TOLD US, HE'S UNDER 217 00:12:26,846 --> 00:12:30,000 NO ILLUSIONS. THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO CONVICTIONS FOR CULTURAL WAR CRIMES SINCE THE LAW WAS PASSED 218 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,785 NO ILLUSIONS. THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO CONVICTIONS FOR CULTURAL WAR CRIMES SINCE THE LAW WAS PASSED 219 00:12:32,852 --> 00:12:36,000 IN 1954. >> SO UKRAINE WANTS TO PROSECUTE RUSSIA FOR WAR CRIMES. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK THEY 220 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,990 IN 1954. >> SO UKRAINE WANTS TO PROSECUTE RUSSIA FOR WAR CRIMES. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK THEY 221 00:12:38,057 --> 00:12:42,000 WILL ACTUALLY BE PROSECUTED? I'M WORRIED, HE TOLD US. THE INTERNATIONAL TREATIES TO PREVENT WAR CRIMES HAVE NOT 222 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,000 WILL ACTUALLY BE PROSECUTED? I'M WORRIED, HE TOLD US. THE INTERNATIONAL TREATIES TO PREVENT WAR CRIMES HAVE NOT 223 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,168 WILL ACTUALLY BE PROSECUTED? I'M WORRIED, HE TOLD US. THE INTERNATIONAL TREATIES TO PREVENT WAR CRIMES HAVE NOT 224 00:12:49,235 --> 00:12:54,000 PROVEN EFFECTIVE, NOR, HE SAID, HAS THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, BUT THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT. >> OKAY, LET'S GO IN. 225 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,209 PROVEN EFFECTIVE, NOR, HE SAID, HAS THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, BUT THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT. >> OKAY, LET'S GO IN. 226 00:12:57,276 --> 00:13:00,000 >> Reporter: IN THE VILLAGE LUKASHIVKA, OUTSIDE OF CHERNIHIV, MUSEUM DIRECTOR IHOR POSHYVAILO SHOWED US WHAT WAS 227 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:06,000 >> Reporter: IN THE VILLAGE LUKASHIVKA, OUTSIDE OF CHERNIHIV, MUSEUM DIRECTOR IHOR POSHYVAILO SHOWED US WHAT WAS 228 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,000 >> Reporter: IN THE VILLAGE LUKASHIVKA, OUTSIDE OF CHERNIHIV, MUSEUM DIRECTOR IHOR POSHYVAILO SHOWED US WHAT WAS 229 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,000 >> Reporter: IN THE VILLAGE LUKASHIVKA, OUTSIDE OF CHERNIHIV, MUSEUM DIRECTOR IHOR POSHYVAILO SHOWED US WHAT WAS 230 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,364 >> Reporter: IN THE VILLAGE LUKASHIVKA, OUTSIDE OF CHERNIHIV, MUSEUM DIRECTOR IHOR POSHYVAILO SHOWED US WHAT WAS 231 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:24,000 LEFT AFTER THE RUSSIANS SET UP A BASE CAMP INSIDE THE CHURCH, A PROTECTED ARCHITECTURAL MONUMENT. 232 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,603 LEFT AFTER THE RUSSIANS SET UP A BASE CAMP INSIDE THE CHURCH, A PROTECTED ARCHITECTURAL MONUMENT. 233 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:30,000 >> THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING. >> IN THE BATTLE TO FORCE THE RUSSIANS OUT, A MASSIVE FIRE DEMOLISHED THE CHURCH'S HISTORIC 234 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,076 >> THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING. >> IN THE BATTLE TO FORCE THE RUSSIANS OUT, A MASSIVE FIRE DEMOLISHED THE CHURCH'S HISTORIC 235 00:13:31,143 --> 00:13:33,846 FRESCOS. >> HERE'S ALSO YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE THE PLACER FROM THE WALL. 236 00:13:33,913 --> 00:13:36,000 >> YOU STILL HAVE THE CROSS HERE. >> YEAH, SO THE CHURCH ITSELF HAS SO MANY LAYERS OF CULTURE, 237 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 >> YOU STILL HAVE THE CROSS HERE. >> YEAH, SO THE CHURCH ITSELF HAS SO MANY LAYERS OF CULTURE, 238 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,924 >> YOU STILL HAVE THE CROSS HERE. >> YEAH, SO THE CHURCH ITSELF HAS SO MANY LAYERS OF CULTURE, 239 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:48,000 BUT EVERYTHING IS LOST NOW. >> IN THE NAVE -- >> LOOK AT THIS. >> THIS WAS ALL THAT WAS LEFT. 240 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,731 BUT EVERYTHING IS LOST NOW. >> IN THE NAVE -- >> LOOK AT THIS. >> THIS WAS ALL THAT WAS LEFT. 241 00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:54,000 POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THIS WAR IS MORE THAN LAND. >> THIS WAR IS AGAINST OUR HISTORICAL MEMORY, AGAINST OUR 242 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,305 POSHYVAILO TOLD US THAT THIS WAR IS MORE THAN LAND. >> THIS WAR IS AGAINST OUR HISTORICAL MEMORY, AGAINST OUR 243 00:13:59,371 --> 00:14:00,000 BEING KARINE. >> YOU SAID BEFORE AGAINST YOUR SOUL. >> AGAINST, EXACTLY, AGAINST OUR 244 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,276 BEING KARINE. >> YOU SAID BEFORE AGAINST YOUR SOUL. >> AGAINST, EXACTLY, AGAINST OUR 245 00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:06,000 SOUL. AGAINST EVERYTHING WHICH MAKES US UKRAINIAN DIFFERENT FROM RUSSIA. 246 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,213 SOUL. AGAINST EVERYTHING WHICH MAKES US UKRAINIAN DIFFERENT FROM RUSSIA. 247 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,183 AND THIS WAR HAS SIGNS OF BEING A GENOCIDE WAR AGAINST UKRAINIAN NATION. >> GENOCIDE? 248 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:12,000 YOU CONSIDER THIS GENOCIDE? >> YES. BECAUSE IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO TOTALLY DESTROY UKRAINE AND 249 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,000 YOU CONSIDER THIS GENOCIDE? >> YES. BECAUSE IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO TOTALLY DESTROY UKRAINE AND 250 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,160 YOU CONSIDER THIS GENOCIDE? >> YES. BECAUSE IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO TOTALLY DESTROY UKRAINE AND 251 00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:23,195 UKRAINIAN NATION. >> Reporter: BUT IT WILL NEVER WOORK, WORK, POSHYVAILO TOLD US. 252 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:24,000 THE MORE RUSSIANS ATTACK, THE MORE RESILIENT UKRAINIANS BECOME. WE SAW PROOF OF THAT AT THE HOLY 253 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,000 THE MORE RUSSIANS ATTACK, THE MORE RESILIENT UKRAINIANS BECOME. WE SAW PROOF OF THAT AT THE HOLY 254 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,604 THE MORE RUSSIANS ATTACK, THE MORE RESILIENT UKRAINIANS BECOME. WE SAW PROOF OF THAT AT THE HOLY 255 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:36,000 DORMITION CATHEDRAL IN KYIV. A 3-D LASER SCANNER WAS METICULOUSLY CAPTURING EVERY ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL, SO THAT IF 256 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,812 DORMITION CATHEDRAL IN KYIV. A 3-D LASER SCANNER WAS METICULOUSLY CAPTURING EVERY ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL, SO THAT IF 257 00:14:39,878 --> 00:14:42,000 DISASTER STRIKES, THE CHURCH CAN BE REBUILT. IT'S WORK THAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SAVING THE CULTURAL 258 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,000 DISASTER STRIKES, THE CHURCH CAN BE REBUILT. IT'S WORK THAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SAVING THE CULTURAL 259 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,755 DISASTER STRIKES, THE CHURCH CAN BE REBUILT. IT'S WORK THAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SAVING THE CULTURAL 260 00:14:49,822 --> 00:14:54,000 SOUL OF UKRAINE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 261 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,928 SOUL OF UKRAINE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 262 00:15:08,274 --> 00:15:12,000 . >>> NOW DR. JON LaPOOK ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> WITH NEW STRAINS OF COVID 263 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,348 . >>> NOW DR. JON LaPOOK ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> WITH NEW STRAINS OF COVID 264 00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:18,000 CONTINUING TO APPEAR AND FLU SEASON JUST MONTHS AWAY, WE THOUGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO CONSIDER WHAT THE PANDEMIC HAS 265 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,221 CONTINUING TO APPEAR AND FLU SEASON JUST MONTHS AWAY, WE THOUGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO CONSIDER WHAT THE PANDEMIC HAS 266 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:24,000 TAUGHT US ABOUT PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF POTENTIALLY DEADLY RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS. IT TURNS OUT VIRUSES LIKE THE 267 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,127 TAUGHT US ABOUT PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF POTENTIALLY DEADLY RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS. IT TURNS OUT VIRUSES LIKE THE 268 00:15:28,193 --> 00:15:30,000 ONE THAT CAUSES COVID-19 CAN TRAVEL MUCH FARTHER THAN 6 FEET. SO PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE FOCUSING ON SOCIAL DISTANCING, HAND 269 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,000 ONE THAT CAUSES COVID-19 CAN TRAVEL MUCH FARTHER THAN 6 FEET. SO PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE FOCUSING ON SOCIAL DISTANCING, HAND 270 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,336 ONE THAT CAUSES COVID-19 CAN TRAVEL MUCH FARTHER THAN 6 FEET. SO PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE FOCUSING ON SOCIAL DISTANCING, HAND 271 00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:42,000 WASHING, AND MASKING WASN'T ENOUGH. AIR QUALITY SCIENTISTS SAY FROM THE START OF THE PANDEMIC, IT 272 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,876 WASHING, AND MASKING WASN'T ENOUGH. AIR QUALITY SCIENTISTS SAY FROM THE START OF THE PANDEMIC, IT 273 00:15:43,942 --> 00:15:48,000 ALSO SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE AIR WE ALL BREATHE INDOORS. AS WE FIRST REPORTED LAST FALL, 274 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,182 ALSO SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE AIR WE ALL BREATHE INDOORS. AS WE FIRST REPORTED LAST FALL, 275 00:15:50,249 --> 00:15:54,000 SOME COMPANIES ARE NOW DOING JUST THAT, FOR THE HEALTH OF THEIR WORKERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR BOTTOM LINE. 276 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,000 SOME COMPANIES ARE NOW DOING JUST THAT, FOR THE HEALTH OF THEIR WORKERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR BOTTOM LINE. 277 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,893 SOME COMPANIES ARE NOW DOING JUST THAT, FOR THE HEALTH OF THEIR WORKERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR BOTTOM LINE. 278 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:04,997 33 >> THE ORIGINAL SIN OF THE PANDEMIC WAS THE FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION. 279 00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:06,000 >> PROFESSOR JOE ALLEN OF HARVARD'S TH CHANCE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH BELIEVES THE RAPID SPREAD OF COVID IN EARLY 2020 280 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,236 >> PROFESSOR JOE ALLEN OF HARVARD'S TH CHANCE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH BELIEVES THE RAPID SPREAD OF COVID IN EARLY 2020 281 00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:12,000 WAS PREVENTABLE. >> THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH GAINS WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST HUNDRED YEARS. 282 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,741 WAS PREVENTABLE. >> THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH GAINS WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST HUNDRED YEARS. 283 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,000 WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER QUALITY, OUTDOOR AIR POLLUTION, OUR FOOD SAFETY. WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO 284 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,000 WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER QUALITY, OUTDOOR AIR POLLUTION, OUR FOOD SAFETY. WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO 285 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,783 WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER QUALITY, OUTDOOR AIR POLLUTION, OUR FOOD SAFETY. WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO 286 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:29,188 SANITATION. ABSOLUTELY BASICS OF PUBLIC HEALTH. WHERE HAS INDOOR AIR BEEN IN 287 00:16:29,254 --> 00:16:30,000 THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THE PANDEMIC SHOWED WHAT A GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. 288 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,000 THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THE PANDEMIC SHOWED WHAT A GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. 289 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:36,662 THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THE PANDEMIC SHOWED WHAT A GLARING MISTAKE THAT WAS. 290 00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:41,967 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS LOST BECAUSE OF THAT LAG IN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS WAS SPREAD? 291 00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:48,000 >> TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES IN THE U.S., MANY MORE GLOBALLY. IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION. >> Reporter: IT'S ALSO NO 292 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,142 >> TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES IN THE U.S., MANY MORE GLOBALLY. IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION. >> Reporter: IT'S ALSO NO 293 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:54,000 EXAGGERATION TO SAY THOSE EARLY DAYS OF COVID WERE UNFORGETTABLE. IN THE U.S., BUT MARCH 2020, THE 294 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,649 EXAGGERATION TO SAY THOSE EARLY DAYS OF COVID WERE UNFORGETTABLE. IN THE U.S., BUT MARCH 2020, THE 295 00:16:57,716 --> 00:17:00,000 VIRUS BEGAN TAKING ITS TOLL IN PLACES LIKE THE LIFECARE CENTER NURSING HOME IN KIRKLAND, WASHINGTON. 296 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,989 VIRUS BEGAN TAKING ITS TOLL IN PLACES LIKE THE LIFECARE CENTER NURSING HOME IN KIRKLAND, WASHINGTON. 297 00:17:04,056 --> 00:17:06,000 60 MILES AWAY IN MT. VERNON, WASHINGTON, THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE HELD ONE OF ITS WEEKLY MEETINGS IN A CHURCH. 298 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,000 60 MILES AWAY IN MT. VERNON, WASHINGTON, THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE HELD ONE OF ITS WEEKLY MEETINGS IN A CHURCH. 299 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,167 60 MILES AWAY IN MT. VERNON, WASHINGTON, THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE HELD ONE OF ITS WEEKLY MEETINGS IN A CHURCH. 300 00:17:15,234 --> 00:17:18,000 HALF OF THE MEMBERS STAYED AWAY, BUT THE OTHER HALF SHOWED UP. AMONG THEM WERE BOARD MEMBERS DEBBIE AMOS, MARK AND RUTH 301 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 HALF OF THE MEMBERS STAYED AWAY, BUT THE OTHER HALF SHOWED UP. AMONG THEM WERE BOARD MEMBERS DEBBIE AMOS, MARK AND RUTH 302 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,476 HALF OF THE MEMBERS STAYED AWAY, BUT THE OTHER HALF SHOWED UP. AMONG THEM WERE BOARD MEMBERS DEBBIE AMOS, MARK AND RUTH 303 00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:30,000 BACKLUND AND COIZIE BETTINGER. >> WE JUST THOUGHT HAND SANITIZER, WASH YOUR HANDS A LOT, YOU KNOW, DON'T HUG EACH 304 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,484 BACKLUND AND COIZIE BETTINGER. >> WE JUST THOUGHT HAND SANITIZER, WASH YOUR HANDS A LOT, YOU KNOW, DON'T HUG EACH 305 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:36,000 OTHER, 'CAUSE THAT'S TOUCH. >> Reporter: NONE OF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH. WITHIN A FEW DAYS, CHORALE 306 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,655 OTHER, 'CAUSE THAT'S TOUCH. >> Reporter: NONE OF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH. WITHIN A FEW DAYS, CHORALE 307 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:42,000 MEMBERS BEGAN TO GET SICK. IN ALL, COVID HIT 53 OF THE 61 PEOPLE THERE THAT NIGHT. TWO OF THEM, BOTH IN THEIR 80s, 308 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,030 MEMBERS BEGAN TO GET SICK. IN ALL, COVID HIT 53 OF THE 61 PEOPLE THERE THAT NIGHT. TWO OF THEM, BOTH IN THEIR 80s, 309 00:17:45,097 --> 00:17:48,000 DIED. >> WE WERE GOING, THIS HAS GOT TO BE SPREAD SOME OTHER WAY, BECAUSE WE WERE GOOD. 310 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,535 DIED. >> WE WERE GOING, THIS HAS GOT TO BE SPREAD SOME OTHER WAY, BECAUSE WE WERE GOOD. 311 00:17:49,601 --> 00:17:54,000 WE WERE GOOD. >> SO COVID WAS PERCOLATING AND YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO 312 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,974 WE WERE GOOD. >> SO COVID WAS PERCOLATING AND YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO 313 00:17:56,041 --> 00:17:59,311 DO. >> YES. >> RIGHT. >> Reporter: SKAGIT COUNTY 314 00:17:59,378 --> 00:18:00,000 HEALTH OFFICIALS SAID THAT THE REHEARSAL COULD BE CONSIDERED A SUPERSPREADING EVENT, ONE OF THE EARLIEST IN THE COUNTRY, AND 315 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,116 HEALTH OFFICIALS SAID THAT THE REHEARSAL COULD BE CONSIDERED A SUPERSPREADING EVENT, ONE OF THE EARLIEST IN THE COUNTRY, AND 316 00:18:04,183 --> 00:18:06,000 CONCLUDED THAT CHOIR MEMBERS HAD AN INTENSE AND PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO SURFACES, DROPLETS, AND POSSIBLY EVEN MICROSCOPIC 317 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,189 CONCLUDED THAT CHOIR MEMBERS HAD AN INTENSE AND PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO SURFACES, DROPLETS, AND POSSIBLY EVEN MICROSCOPIC 318 00:18:10,255 --> 00:18:12,000 AIRBORNE PARTICLES CALLED AEROSOLS CONTAINING THE VIRUS. THAT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF LINSEY MARR AND SEVERAL OF HER 319 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:18,000 AIRBORNE PARTICLES CALLED AEROSOLS CONTAINING THE VIRUS. THAT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF LINSEY MARR AND SEVERAL OF HER 320 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,866 AIRBORNE PARTICLES CALLED AEROSOLS CONTAINING THE VIRUS. THAT CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF LINSEY MARR AND SEVERAL OF HER 321 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:24,000 FELLOW RESEARCHERS. EVEN THOUGH THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WAS FOCUSED ON DROPLETS, SURFACES, AND HAND 322 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,473 FELLOW RESEARCHERS. EVEN THOUGH THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WAS FOCUSED ON DROPLETS, SURFACES, AND HAND 323 00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:30,000 WASHING, THESE RESEARCHERS STRONGLY BELIEVED COVID WAS MOSTLY AN AIRBORNE DISEASE, BUT NEEDED MORE PROOF, SO THEY 324 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,412 WASHING, THESE RESEARCHERS STRONGLY BELIEVED COVID WAS MOSTLY AN AIRBORNE DISEASE, BUT NEEDED MORE PROOF, SO THEY 325 00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:36,000 LAUNCHED THEIR OWN ANALYSIS. >> I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. THIS HAS TO BE AIRBORNE. 326 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,452 LAUNCHED THEIR OWN ANALYSIS. >> I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. THIS HAS TO BE AIRBORNE. 327 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:42,000 THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER EXPLANATION FOR IT. SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, OH, THEY ALL TOUCHED THE SAME 328 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,558 THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER EXPLANATION FOR IT. SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, OH, THEY ALL TOUCHED THE SAME 329 00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:48,000 DOORKNOB, BUT AFTER THE FIRST FEW PEOPLE TOUCH THAT DOORKNOB, THERE'S NO MORE VIRUS LEFT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR 330 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,332 DOORKNOB, BUT AFTER THE FIRST FEW PEOPLE TOUCH THAT DOORKNOB, THERE'S NO MORE VIRUS LEFT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR 331 00:18:53,398 --> 00:18:54,000 EXHALED BREATH. >> Reporter: PROFESSOR MARR USED A PORTABLE FOGGER TO HELP EXPLAIN HOW SO MANY CHOIR 332 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,000 EXHALED BREATH. >> Reporter: PROFESSOR MARR USED A PORTABLE FOGGER TO HELP EXPLAIN HOW SO MANY CHOIR 333 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,005 EXHALED BREATH. >> Reporter: PROFESSOR MARR USED A PORTABLE FOGGER TO HELP EXPLAIN HOW SO MANY CHOIR 334 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:06,000 MEMBERS COULD HAVE GOTTEN SICK. >> WHEN THEY'RE SINGING, THEY'RE RELEASING VIRUS PARTICLES INTO THE AIR CONSTANTLY, PROBABLY, 335 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,280 MEMBERS COULD HAVE GOTTEN SICK. >> WHEN THEY'RE SINGING, THEY'RE RELEASING VIRUS PARTICLES INTO THE AIR CONSTANTLY, PROBABLY, 336 00:19:08,347 --> 00:19:12,000 LIKE THIS. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO DRIFT AROUND IN THE ROOM, NOTICE, THEY'RE NOT JUST FALLING TO THE 337 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,753 LIKE THIS. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO DRIFT AROUND IN THE ROOM, NOTICE, THEY'RE NOT JUST FALLING TO THE 338 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:18,000 GROUND. AND NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO SING, THERE'S MORE AND MORE OF THEM IN THE ROOM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,325 GROUND. AND NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO SING, THERE'S MORE AND MORE OF THEM IN THE ROOM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, 340 00:19:20,392 --> 00:19:24,000 THEY'RE DRIFTING AROUND AND REACHING THESE OTHER PEOPLE NEARBY. AND THEY WERE THERE FOR TWO AND 341 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,297 THEY'RE DRIFTING AROUND AND REACHING THESE OTHER PEOPLE NEARBY. AND THEY WERE THERE FOR TWO AND 342 00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:30,000 A HALF HOURS, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT AFTER THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BREATHED IN ENOUGH OF THEM 343 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,503 A HALF HOURS, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT AFTER THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BREATHED IN ENOUGH OF THEM 344 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:36,000 TO GET SICK THEMSELVES. >> ESPECIALLY IF AT NIGHT, THE HVAC SYSTEM WAS TURNED OFF. >> AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT WASN'T 345 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,745 TO GET SICK THEMSELVES. >> ESPECIALLY IF AT NIGHT, THE HVAC SYSTEM WAS TURNED OFF. >> AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT WASN'T 346 00:19:39,811 --> 00:19:42,000 RUN RUNNING, SO THERE WAS VERY POOR VENTILATION IN THAT ROOM WHEN THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. 347 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,653 RUN RUNNING, SO THERE WAS VERY POOR VENTILATION IN THAT ROOM WHEN THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. 348 00:19:47,719 --> 00:19:48,000 >> Reporter: AN HVAC UNIT, SHORT FOR HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR-CONDITIONING, IS THE HEART AND LUNGS OF ANY BUILDING. 349 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,559 >> Reporter: AN HVAC UNIT, SHORT FOR HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR-CONDITIONING, IS THE HEART AND LUNGS OF ANY BUILDING. 350 00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:54,000 THE RESEARCHERS SUSPECTED THAT THE THERMOSTAT MOST LIKELY SHUT OFF THE HVAC UNIT BECAUSE THE CHORALE MEMBERS WERE GENERATING 351 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,898 THE RESEARCHERS SUSPECTED THAT THE THERMOSTAT MOST LIKELY SHUT OFF THE HVAC UNIT BECAUSE THE CHORALE MEMBERS WERE GENERATING 352 00:19:59,965 --> 00:20:00,000 ENOUGH HEAT ON THEIR OWN. >> AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO VENTILATION? >> VERY, VERY LOW. 353 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,671 ENOUGH HEAT ON THEIR OWN. >> AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO VENTILATION? >> VERY, VERY LOW. 354 00:20:05,737 --> 00:20:06,000 >> OKAY. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS IN THE CHURCH WHERE THE GROUP WAS REHEARSING. 355 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,000 >> OKAY. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS IN THE CHURCH WHERE THE GROUP WAS REHEARSING. 356 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,210 >> OKAY. >> ACTUALLY, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS IN THE CHURCH WHERE THE GROUP WAS REHEARSING. 357 00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:18,000 >> Reporter: THEN, PROFESSOR MARR TURNED UP THE CIRCULATION TO SHOW US HOW THE BETTER AIR FLOW COULD HAVE HELPED REMOVE 358 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,717 >> Reporter: THEN, PROFESSOR MARR TURNED UP THE CIRCULATION TO SHOW US HOW THE BETTER AIR FLOW COULD HAVE HELPED REMOVE 359 00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:24,000 AEROSOLS AND SLOW THE SPREAD OF VIRUS. >> INSTEAD OF JUST DRIFTING ALL OVER THE ROOM -- 360 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,391 AEROSOLS AND SLOW THE SPREAD OF VIRUS. >> INSTEAD OF JUST DRIFTING ALL OVER THE ROOM -- 361 00:20:26,458 --> 00:20:30,000 >> OH! >> YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT GOING RIGHT UP THERE. >> I SURE CAN. 362 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,996 >> OH! >> YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT GOING RIGHT UP THERE. >> I SURE CAN. 363 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:35,834 THAT IS DRAMATIC TO SEE THAT. >> Reporter: THE ANALYSIS LED TO ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PAPERS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF 364 00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:36,000 VEPTLATION PUBLISHED DURING THE PANDEMIC. NEN THIS 2022, A STUDY IN ITALY WENT FURTHER. 365 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,938 VEPTLATION PUBLISHED DURING THE PANDEMIC. NEN THIS 2022, A STUDY IN ITALY WENT FURTHER. 366 00:20:40,005 --> 00:20:42,000 IT FOUND THAT BY USING A SCHOOL'S FANS AND AIR DUCTS TO MECHANICALLY EXCHANGE INDOOR AIR WITH OUTDOOR AIR FIVE TIMES AN 367 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,612 IT FOUND THAT BY USING A SCHOOL'S FANS AND AIR DUCTS TO MECHANICALLY EXCHANGE INDOOR AIR WITH OUTDOOR AIR FIVE TIMES AN 368 00:20:46,678 --> 00:20:48,000 HOUR, THE RISK OF COVID-19 INFECTIONS DECREASED BY AT LEAST 80%. BUT IN THE U.S., IT TOOK UNTIL 369 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,717 HOUR, THE RISK OF COVID-19 INFECTIONS DECREASED BY AT LEAST 80%. BUT IN THE U.S., IT TOOK UNTIL 370 00:20:51,783 --> 00:20:54,000 MAY OF 2023 FOR THE CDC TO RECOMMEND AN AIR EXCHANGE RATE AT ALL. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY WE 371 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:59,224 MAY OF 2023 FOR THE CDC TO RECOMMEND AN AIR EXCHANGE RATE AT ALL. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY WE 372 00:20:59,291 --> 00:21:00,000 DESIGN AND OPERATE BUILDINGS, AND I MEAN OFFICES, SCHOOLS, LOCAL COFFEE SHOP, WE HAVEN'T ZIPD FOR HEALTH. 373 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:06,000 DESIGN AND OPERATE BUILDINGS, AND I MEAN OFFICES, SCHOOLS, LOCAL COFFEE SHOP, WE HAVEN'T ZIPD FOR HEALTH. 374 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,666 DESIGN AND OPERATE BUILDINGS, AND I MEAN OFFICES, SCHOOLS, LOCAL COFFEE SHOP, WE HAVEN'T ZIPD FOR HEALTH. 375 00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:12,000 WE HAVE BARE MINIMUM STANDARDS. IN SCHOOLS, THE MINIMUM AIR CHANGE BY DESIGN IS ABOUT THREE AIR CHANGES PER HOUR. 376 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,739 WE HAVE BARE MINIMUM STANDARDS. IN SCHOOLS, THE MINIMUM AIR CHANGE BY DESIGN IS ABOUT THREE AIR CHANGES PER HOUR. 377 00:21:13,805 --> 00:21:18,000 REMEMBER, WE WANT AT LEAST FOUR TO SIX. >> IF WE'D HAD THESE INDOOR AIR QUALITY TARGETS BEFORE THE 378 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,278 REMEMBER, WE WANT AT LEAST FOUR TO SIX. >> IF WE'D HAD THESE INDOOR AIR QUALITY TARGETS BEFORE THE 379 00:21:20,345 --> 00:21:24,000 PANDEMIC, HOW DO YOU THINK THE PANDEMIC WOULD HAVE UNFOLDED DIFFERENTLY? >> WE STILL WOULD HAVE HAD 380 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,419 PANDEMIC, HOW DO YOU THINK THE PANDEMIC WOULD HAVE UNFOLDED DIFFERENTLY? >> WE STILL WOULD HAVE HAD 381 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:30,000 SPREAD. THIS ISN'T AN "END-THE-PANDEMIC" THING. WE WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT LESS OF 382 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,126 SPREAD. THIS ISN'T AN "END-THE-PANDEMIC" THING. WE WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT LESS OF 383 00:21:34,192 --> 00:21:36,000 IT AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT LESS OF THESE SUPERSPREADING EVENTS. THINK ABOUT THE EARLY DAYS OF 384 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,198 IT AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT LESS OF THESE SUPERSPREADING EVENTS. THINK ABOUT THE EARLY DAYS OF 385 00:21:40,265 --> 00:21:42,000 THE PAM. FLATTEN THE CURVE, STAY HOME. WHY WASN'T IMPROVE INDOOR AIR QUALITY PART OF FLATTEN THE 386 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,004 THE PAM. FLATTEN THE CURVE, STAY HOME. WHY WASN'T IMPROVE INDOOR AIR QUALITY PART OF FLATTEN THE 387 00:21:46,071 --> 00:21:48,000 CURVE. WE HAD TOOLS TO PROTECT OURSELVES. MASKING, GREAT TOOL. 388 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,741 CURVE. WE HAD TOOLS TO PROTECT OURSELVES. MASKING, GREAT TOOL. 389 00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:54,000 IT'S A FILTER. BUT WE IGNORED THE BUILDING SIDE OF THIS. >> Reporter: BUILDINGS ARE 390 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,747 IT'S A FILTER. BUT WE IGNORED THE BUILDING SIDE OF THIS. >> Reporter: BUILDINGS ARE 391 00:21:55,814 --> 00:22:00,000 ALLEN'S BUSINESS. AS THE FOUNDER OF HARVARD'S HEALTHY BUILDINGS PROGRAM, HE DIAGNOSES PROBLEMS IN AIR 392 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,353 ALLEN'S BUSINESS. AS THE FOUNDER OF HARVARD'S HEALTHY BUILDINGS PROGRAM, HE DIAGNOSES PROBLEMS IN AIR 393 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:06,000 QUALITY SYSTEMS AND COMES UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR CLIENTS THAT INCLUDE CBS' PARENT COMPANY, PARAMOUNT, AND COMMERCIAL REAL 394 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,458 QUALITY SYSTEMS AND COMES UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR CLIENTS THAT INCLUDE CBS' PARENT COMPANY, PARAMOUNT, AND COMMERCIAL REAL 395 00:22:06,525 --> 00:22:12,000 ESTATE COMPANIES LIKE BEACON CAPITAL PARTNERS, WITH BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ONE DOWNTOWN IN BOSTON. 396 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,131 ESTATE COMPANIES LIKE BEACON CAPITAL PARTNERS, WITH BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ONE DOWNTOWN IN BOSTON. 397 00:22:13,198 --> 00:22:18,000 AND HE ADVISED AMAZON BEFORE THESE NEW 22-STORY TOWERS OPENED LAST YEAR IN ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, WHERE HE GAVE US A 398 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,206 AND HE ADVISED AMAZON BEFORE THESE NEW 22-STORY TOWERS OPENED LAST YEAR IN ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, WHERE HE GAVE US A 399 00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:24,000 TOUR. >> WHAT DOES A STATE OF THE ART BUILDING LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF AIR 400 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,714 TOUR. >> WHAT DOES A STATE OF THE ART BUILDING LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF AIR 401 00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:30,000 AIR? >> WE SEE A LOT OF ELEMENTS IN THIS BUILDING. YOU HAVE DEDICATED OUTDOOR AIR 402 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,918 AIR? >> WE SEE A LOT OF ELEMENTS IN THIS BUILDING. YOU HAVE DEDICATED OUTDOOR AIR 403 00:22:32,984 --> 00:22:36,000 SYSTEM THAT'S DELIVERING AIR ABOVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEN IT'S GOING TWLOU MERV-13 FILTER BANKS, AND YOU HAVE 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,691 SYSTEM THAT'S DELIVERING AIR ABOVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEN IT'S GOING TWLOU MERV-13 FILTER BANKS, AND YOU HAVE 405 00:22:39,758 --> 00:22:42,000 HIGHLY FILTERED AIR. >> Reporter: MERV STANDS FOR MINIMUM EFFICIENCY REPORTING VALUE. 406 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,061 HIGHLY FILTERED AIR. >> Reporter: MERV STANDS FOR MINIMUM EFFICIENCY REPORTING VALUE. 407 00:22:43,128 --> 00:22:48,000 A RATING OF 13 MEANS IT CATCHES UP TO 90% OF AIRBORNE PARTICLES, DEPENDING ON THEIR SIZE, AS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE NOT JUST 408 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,469 A RATING OF 13 MEANS IT CATCHES UP TO 90% OF AIRBORNE PARTICLES, DEPENDING ON THEIR SIZE, AS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE NOT JUST 409 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:54,000 AGAINST COVID, BUT OTHER AIRBORNE RESPIRATORY VIRUSES LIKE FLU AND RSV. >> THIS IS THE PART OF THE 410 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:00,000 AGAINST COVID, BUT OTHER AIRBORNE RESPIRATORY VIRUSES LIKE FLU AND RSV. >> THIS IS THE PART OF THE 411 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,813 AGAINST COVID, BUT OTHER AIRBORNE RESPIRATORY VIRUSES LIKE FLU AND RSV. >> THIS IS THE PART OF THE 412 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,950 BUILDING NOBODY EVER SEES, BUT THIS DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE HEALTHY OR SICK IN THIS BUILDING, REALLY, WHAT HAPPENS 413 00:23:05,016 --> 00:23:06,000 IN THIS SPACE. >> YOU CAN JUST SEE THE FILTERS ON THE RIGHT HERE. >> Reporter: AT AMAZON'S NEW 414 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,021 IN THIS SPACE. >> YOU CAN JUST SEE THE FILTERS ON THE RIGHT HERE. >> Reporter: AT AMAZON'S NEW 415 00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:12,000 OFFICES, THE TOP FLOOR IS A MAZE OF MOTORS, PIPES, AND AIR DUCTS. >> THIS IS AN AIR INTAKE. >> Reporter: PART OF A 2.5 416 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,895 OFFICES, THE TOP FLOOR IS A MAZE OF MOTORS, PIPES, AND AIR DUCTS. >> THIS IS AN AIR INTAKE. >> Reporter: PART OF A 2.5 417 00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:18,000 MILLION DOLLAR HVAC SYSTEM THAT BEGINS WITH MASSIVE ROOFTOP VENTS AND DAMPERS. >> RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE WHOLE 418 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,902 MILLION DOLLAR HVAC SYSTEM THAT BEGINS WITH MASSIVE ROOFTOP VENTS AND DAMPERS. >> RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE WHOLE 419 00:23:23,969 --> 00:23:24,000 AIR HANDLING SYSTEM. THIS IS WHERE THE AIR COMES INTO THE BUILDING, IT'S FILTERED, IT'S COOLED AND THEN DELIVERED. 420 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,000 AIR HANDLING SYSTEM. THIS IS WHERE THE AIR COMES INTO THE BUILDING, IT'S FILTERED, IT'S COOLED AND THEN DELIVERED. 421 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,275 AIR HANDLING SYSTEM. THIS IS WHERE THE AIR COMES INTO THE BUILDING, IT'S FILTERED, IT'S COOLED AND THEN DELIVERED. 422 00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:35,947 >> Reporter: DOWNSTAIRS, EACH FLOOR HAS A CENSOR THAELS BUILDING IS ENGINEERS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE INDOOR AIR, SUCH 423 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:42,000 AS LEVELS OF CARBON DIOXIDE, KNOWN AS CO2. >> WE BREATHE OUT THE CO2. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 424 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,157 AS LEVELS OF CARBON DIOXIDE, KNOWN AS CO2. >> WE BREATHE OUT THE CO2. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 425 00:23:45,223 --> 00:23:48,000 >> HIGH CARBON DIOXIDE MEANS YOU'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH OUTDOOR AIR FROM THAT SYSTEM WE JUST LOOKED AT. 426 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,129 >> HIGH CARBON DIOXIDE MEANS YOU'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH OUTDOOR AIR FROM THAT SYSTEM WE JUST LOOKED AT. 427 00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:54,000 IF IT'S LOW, YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. THEN WE ALSO MEASURE PARTICLES, THAT TELLS US THINGS ABOUT 428 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,835 IF IT'S LOW, YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. THEN WE ALSO MEASURE PARTICLES, THAT TELLS US THINGS ABOUT 429 00:23:56,902 --> 00:24:00,000 OUTDOOR AIR POLLUTION. >> THE ENTIRE SYSTEM CAN BE MONITORED AND CONTROLLED FROM THE BASEMENT. 430 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,405 OUTDOOR AIR POLLUTION. >> THE ENTIRE SYSTEM CAN BE MONITORED AND CONTROLLED FROM THE BASEMENT. 431 00:24:00,472 --> 00:24:04,743 >> REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT CARBON DIOXIDE AS AN INDICATOR FOR VENTILATION? CAN I SEE IN THIS BUILDING, ALL 432 00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:06,000 OF THESE ARE UNDER 800 PARTS PER MILLION. >> SO THAT'S GOOD? >> THAT'S GREAT. 433 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,780 OF THESE ARE UNDER 800 PARTS PER MILLION. >> SO THAT'S GOOD? >> THAT'S GREAT. 434 00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:12,000 AND REALLY IMPORTANT, IF A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT INTO A SPACE, THE CO2 LEVEL WOULD RISE, THIS SYSTEM WOULD RECOGNIZE IT, THE 435 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,122 AND REALLY IMPORTANT, IF A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT INTO A SPACE, THE CO2 LEVEL WOULD RISE, THIS SYSTEM WOULD RECOGNIZE IT, THE 436 00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:18,000 DAMPERS WOULD OPEN UP AND BRING IN A LOT MORE OUTDOOR AIR. >> Reporter: KATIE HUGHES, AMAZON'S DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND 437 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,627 DAMPERS WOULD OPEN UP AND BRING IN A LOT MORE OUTDOOR AIR. >> Reporter: KATIE HUGHES, AMAZON'S DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND 438 00:24:22,694 --> 00:24:24,000 SAFETY, POINTED TO THE WAVES OF WILDFIRE SMOKE THAT HAVE SWEPT DOWN FROM CANADA AS THE ULTIMATE TEST OF THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY 439 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,000 SAFETY, POINTED TO THE WAVES OF WILDFIRE SMOKE THAT HAVE SWEPT DOWN FROM CANADA AS THE ULTIMATE TEST OF THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY 440 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,137 SAFETY, POINTED TO THE WAVES OF WILDFIRE SMOKE THAT HAVE SWEPT DOWN FROM CANADA AS THE ULTIMATE TEST OF THE INDOOR AIR QUALITY 441 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:35,106 SYSTEM SYSTEM. >> NOT TOO LONG AGO, WASHINGTON AND VIRGINIA WERE SMOTHERED BY 442 00:24:35,173 --> 00:24:36,000 THIS SMOKE COMING DOWN FROM CANADA. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS BUILDING? >> YOU WOULD EXPECT THE AIR 443 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,012 THIS SMOKE COMING DOWN FROM CANADA. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS BUILDING? >> YOU WOULD EXPECT THE AIR 444 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:42,000 QUALITY WITHIN THE FACILITY TO NOT BE GREAT. OUR PILGDINGS WERE PERFORMING VERY WELL. 445 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,419 QUALITY WITHIN THE FACILITY TO NOT BE GREAT. OUR PILGDINGS WERE PERFORMING VERY WELL. 446 00:24:47,485 --> 00:24:48,000 >> Reporter: AMAZON SAYS IT HAS UPDATED AND CONTINUES TO MONITORS ITS HVAC SYSTEMS, INCLUDING IN ITS WAREHOUSES. 447 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,825 >> Reporter: AMAZON SAYS IT HAS UPDATED AND CONTINUES TO MONITORS ITS HVAC SYSTEMS, INCLUDING IN ITS WAREHOUSES. 448 00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:54,000 A RECENT SURVEY OF FACILITY MANAGERS IN THE U.S. AND CANADA FOUND THAT SINCE MARCH OF 20, ROUGHLY TWO-THIRDS OF 449 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,000 A RECENT SURVEY OF FACILITY MANAGERS IN THE U.S. AND CANADA FOUND THAT SINCE MARCH OF 20, ROUGHLY TWO-THIRDS OF 450 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,267 A RECENT SURVEY OF FACILITY MANAGERS IN THE U.S. AND CANADA FOUND THAT SINCE MARCH OF 20, ROUGHLY TWO-THIRDS OF 451 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:06,000 RESPONDENTS HAVE UPYGRADED THEI MERV FILTERS AND INCREASED THEIR AIR EXCHANGE RATES. IN NEW YORK CITY, JPMORGAN CHASE 452 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,306 RESPONDENTS HAVE UPYGRADED THEI MERV FILTERS AND INCREASED THEIR AIR EXCHANGE RATES. IN NEW YORK CITY, JPMORGAN CHASE 453 00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:12,000 SAYS ITS NEW HEADQUARTERS WILL HAVE STATE OF THE ART AIR QUALITY CONTROLS. AND H THIS NEW SKROOIRP ALREADY 454 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,000 SAYS ITS NEW HEADQUARTERS WILL HAVE STATE OF THE ART AIR QUALITY CONTROLS. AND H THIS NEW SKROOIRP ALREADY 455 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,917 SAYS ITS NEW HEADQUARTERS WILL HAVE STATE OF THE ART AIR QUALITY CONTROLS. AND H THIS NEW SKROOIRP ALREADY 456 00:25:18,984 --> 00:25:24,000 RUNS A NEW HVAC SYSTEM. >> COVID SHIFTED EVERYONE'S MIND-SET IN TERMS OF AIR QUALITY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES. 457 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,825 RUNS A NEW HVAC SYSTEM. >> COVID SHIFTED EVERYONE'S MIND-SET IN TERMS OF AIR QUALITY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES. 458 00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:30,000 >> ARE YOU FINDING THAT AMAZON IS MAKING A BUSINESS DECISION PARTIALLY BY SAYING, LOCK, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO 459 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,000 >> ARE YOU FINDING THAT AMAZON IS MAKING A BUSINESS DECISION PARTIALLY BY SAYING, LOCK, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO 460 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:36,000 WORK, BECAUSE WE'RE TELLING YOU THE AIR INSIDE THIS BUILDING IS SAFE. >> I THINK IT'S ONE OF MANY 461 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,970 WORK, BECAUSE WE'RE TELLING YOU THE AIR INSIDE THIS BUILDING IS SAFE. >> I THINK IT'S ONE OF MANY 462 00:25:39,037 --> 00:25:42,000 REASONS WHY WE EXPECT OR WOULD LIKE PEOPLE BACK IN THE OFFICE. THAT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF MANY 463 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,379 REASONS WHY WE EXPECT OR WOULD LIKE PEOPLE BACK IN THE OFFICE. THAT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF MANY 464 00:25:47,445 --> 00:25:48,000 THINGS. >> A WELL-OPERATING HVAC SYSTEM IS NOT ONLY GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF EMPLOYEES, IT CAN BE GOOD FOR 465 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 THINGS. >> A WELL-OPERATING HVAC SYSTEM IS NOT ONLY GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF EMPLOYEES, IT CAN BE GOOD FOR 466 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,152 THINGS. >> A WELL-OPERATING HVAC SYSTEM IS NOT ONLY GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF EMPLOYEES, IT CAN BE GOOD FOR 467 00:25:54,219 --> 00:26:00,000 THE HEALTH OF COMPANIES, TOO. ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE WORKING REMOTELY, LEAVING MANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNERS 468 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,392 THE HEALTH OF COMPANIES, TOO. ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE WORKING REMOTELY, LEAVING MANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNERS 469 00:26:00,458 --> 00:26:06,000 LOOKING FOR TENANTS. >> THERE'S EMPTY OFFICE SPACE IN NEW YORK CITY AND ELSEWHERE. HOW DO YOU THINK THIS NEW 470 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,564 LOOKING FOR TENANTS. >> THERE'S EMPTY OFFICE SPACE IN NEW YORK CITY AND ELSEWHERE. HOW DO YOU THINK THIS NEW 471 00:26:06,631 --> 00:26:12,000 THINKING MIGHT AFFECT THAT, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE EVEN WANTING TO COME TO WORK? >> THE DYNAMIC HAS CHANGE. 472 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,170 THINKING MIGHT AFFECT THAT, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE EVEN WANTING TO COME TO WORK? >> THE DYNAMIC HAS CHANGE. 473 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:18,000 IT'S A TOTAL BUYERS OR TENANTS' MARKET. ALL ELSE EQUAL, WHICH BUILDING ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO. 474 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,811 IT'S A TOTAL BUYERS OR TENANTS' MARKET. ALL ELSE EQUAL, WHICH BUILDING ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO. 475 00:26:19,878 --> 00:26:24,000 YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE PROUN. THIS BUILDING THAT PUT IN HEALTHY BUILDING CONTROLS OR THIS BUILDING THAT'S DESIGNED 476 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,284 YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE PROUN. THIS BUILDING THAT PUT IN HEALTHY BUILDING CONTROLS OR THIS BUILDING THAT'S DESIGNED 477 00:26:26,351 --> 00:26:30,000 THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DESIGNED BUILDINGS AND IS PRONE TO BEING A SICK BUILDING? >> SO IT ACTUALLY CAN HELP THE 478 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,658 THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DESIGNED BUILDINGS AND IS PRONE TO BEING A SICK BUILDING? >> SO IT ACTUALLY CAN HELP THE 479 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:36,000 BOTTOM LINE IN ADDITION TO IMPROVING HEALTH? >> YEAH. >> WHAT ABOUT RETROFITTING A 480 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,831 BOTTOM LINE IN ADDITION TO IMPROVING HEALTH? >> YEAH. >> WHAT ABOUT RETROFITTING A 481 00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:42,000 BUILDING THAT'S OLD. >> I THINK IT'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT OLD BUILDINGS CAN'T BE HEALTHY BUILDINGS. 482 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,305 BUILDING THAT'S OLD. >> I THINK IT'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT OLD BUILDINGS CAN'T BE HEALTHY BUILDINGS. 483 00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:48,000 SOME OF THESE FIXES DON'T COST MUCH. IMPROVING THE FILTRATION IS EASY, IT'S CHEAP, PROTECTS 484 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,544 SOME OF THESE FIXES DON'T COST MUCH. IMPROVING THE FILTRATION IS EASY, IT'S CHEAP, PROTECTS 485 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:54,000 AGAINST COVID-19, INFLUENZA, AND PROTECTS AGAINST SMOKE AND ALLERGENS. SIMPLE, ABSOLUTE BASIC THINGS 486 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,517 AGAINST COVID-19, INFLUENZA, AND PROTECTS AGAINST SMOKE AND ALLERGENS. SIMPLE, ABSOLUTE BASIC THINGS 487 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:00,000 THAT CAN BE DONE. >> THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE REHEARSALS ARE NOW IN A NEW CHURCH WITH A BETTER AIR 488 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,000 THAT CAN BE DONE. >> THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE REHEARSALS ARE NOW IN A NEW CHURCH WITH A BETTER AIR 489 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000 THAT CAN BE DONE. >> THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE REHEARSALS ARE NOW IN A NEW CHURCH WITH A BETTER AIR 490 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,934 THAT CAN BE DONE. >> THE SKAGIT VALLEY CHORALE REHEARSALS ARE NOW IN A NEW CHURCH WITH A BETTER AIR 491 00:27:16,001 --> 00:27:18,000 FILTRATION SYSTEM. THERE ARE PORTABLE CARBON DIOXIDE MONITORS TO TRACK VENTILATION. 492 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,871 FILTRATION SYSTEM. THERE ARE PORTABLE CARBON DIOXIDE MONITORS TO TRACK VENTILATION. 493 00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:24,000 >> WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. AND WE'VE TRIED TO LEARN FROM THAT AND DID HELP THE SCIENCE 494 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,279 >> WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. AND WE'VE TRIED TO LEARN FROM THAT AND DID HELP THE SCIENCE 495 00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:30,000 WITH AEROSOL STUDY. AND NOW WE'RE MOVING ON IN A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL SING, BUT IN A MORE SAFE MANNER. 496 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,000 WITH AEROSOL STUDY. AND NOW WE'RE MOVING ON IN A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL SING, BUT IN A MORE SAFE MANNER. 497 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,288 WITH AEROSOL STUDY. AND NOW WE'RE MOVING ON IN A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL SING, BUT IN A MORE SAFE MANNER. 498 00:27:37,355 --> 00:27:42,000 >> DO YOU WORRY THAT WHEN THE SPOTLIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC STARTS TO FADE, THAT PEOPLE WILL FORGET, THAT THEY WON'T ACT THE 499 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,796 >> DO YOU WORRY THAT WHEN THE SPOTLIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC STARTS TO FADE, THAT PEOPLE WILL FORGET, THAT THEY WON'T ACT THE 500 00:27:44,863 --> 00:27:48,000 WAY THEY SHOULD IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS? >> I'M A BIT MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN THAT. 501 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,533 WAY THEY SHOULD IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS? >> I'M A BIT MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN THAT. 502 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:54,000 I THINK THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL SHIFTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THE SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL LITERATURE IS BEING RE-WRITTEN. 503 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:54,139 I THINK THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL SHIFTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THE SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL LITERATURE IS BEING RE-WRITTEN. 504 00:27:54,205 --> 00:28:00,000 THE GOVERNMENT AND STANDARD-SETTINGS BODIES ARE SETTING NEW HEALTH STANDARDS. BUSINESSES ARE RESPONDING AND 505 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,279 THE GOVERNMENT AND STANDARD-SETTINGS BODIES ARE SETTING NEW HEALTH STANDARDS. BUSINESSES ARE RESPONDING AND 506 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:06,000 WON'T FORGET WHAT THIS MEANT TO THEIR EMPLOYEES' HEALTH AND PIZ BUSINESS. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL FORGET 507 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,355 WON'T FORGET WHAT THIS MEANT TO THEIR EMPLOYEES' HEALTH AND PIZ BUSINESS. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL FORGET 508 00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:12,000 THESE LESSONS. WE BETTER NOT. >> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MA 509 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:18,000 THESE LESSONS. WE BETTER NOT. >> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MA 510 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,000 THESE LESSONS. WE BETTER NOT. >> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MA 511 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,772 THESE LESSONS. WE BETTER NOT. >> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MA 512 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,000 >>> LAST FEBRUARY'S SUPER BOWL WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME HELD IN LAS VEGAS. A FIDGET VENUE GIVEN THE 513 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,313 >>> LAST FEBRUARY'S SUPER BOWL WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME HELD IN LAS VEGAS. A FIDGET VENUE GIVEN THE 514 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,000 PROMINENT ROLE THAT GAMBLING PLAYS IN SPORTS TODAY. AMERICA HAS RECENTLY BROUGHT ITS AGE-OLD LOVE OF SPORTS BETTING 515 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,885 PROMINENT ROLE THAT GAMBLING PLAYS IN SPORTS TODAY. AMERICA HAS RECENTLY BROUGHT ITS AGE-OLD LOVE OF SPORTS BETTING 516 00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:42,000 OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND ON TO OUR PHONES AND THIS HAS CREATED A AN ALL-TIME MISMATCH, PITTING MAN AGAINST MACHINE. 517 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,000 OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND ON TO OUR PHONES AND THIS HAS CREATED A AN ALL-TIME MISMATCH, PITTING MAN AGAINST MACHINE. 518 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,927 OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND ON TO OUR PHONES AND THIS HAS CREATED A AN ALL-TIME MISMATCH, PITTING MAN AGAINST MACHINE. 519 00:28:48,993 --> 00:28:54,000 GAMBLERS, OVERWHELMINGLY YOUNG MEN, VERSUS GAMBLING COMPANIES, ARMED WITH SOPHISTICATE D ZB D , DATA, AND ENGINEEING, ENTICING 520 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,000 GAMBLERS, OVERWHELMINGLY YOUNG MEN, VERSUS GAMBLING COMPANIES, ARMED WITH SOPHISTICATE D ZB D , DATA, AND ENGINEEING, ENTICING 521 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,239 GAMBLERS, OVERWHELMINGLY YOUNG MEN, VERSUS GAMBLING COMPANIES, ARMED WITH SOPHISTICATE D ZB D , DATA, AND ENGINEEING, ENTICING 522 00:29:01,306 --> 00:29:06,000 FANS TO MAKE SNAP BETS NOT JUST ON GAMES, BUT ON EVERY PLAY WITHIN GAMES. THE EARLY RESULTS? 523 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,045 FANS TO MAKE SNAP BETS NOT JUST ON GAMES, BUT ON EVERY PLAY WITHIN GAMES. THE EARLY RESULTS? 524 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:12,000 BILLIONS FOR GAMBLING COMPANIES, LEAGUES, AND STATE GOVERNMENTS. AND AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN FEBRUARY, A GROWING POPULATION 525 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,585 BILLIONS FOR GAMBLING COMPANIES, LEAGUES, AND STATE GOVERNMENTS. AND AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN FEBRUARY, A GROWING POPULATION 526 00:29:13,651 --> 00:29:18,000 OF SPORTS BETTORS, STRUGGLING TO DEFEND AGAINST THE RUSH. BOSTON IS NOTHING IF NOT A SPORTS TOWN. 527 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,591 OF SPORTS BETTORS, STRUGGLING TO DEFEND AGAINST THE RUSH. BOSTON IS NOTHING IF NOT A SPORTS TOWN. 528 00:29:19,657 --> 00:29:24,000 AND WHEN THERE'S A GAME, ODDS ARE GOOD THERE ARE GUYS LIKE BILLY, ANDREW AND JOHN AT THE LOCAL BAR. 529 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,000 AND WHEN THERE'S A GAME, ODDS ARE GOOD THERE ARE GUYS LIKE BILLY, ANDREW AND JOHN AT THE LOCAL BAR. 530 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,201 AND WHEN THERE'S A GAME, ODDS ARE GOOD THERE ARE GUYS LIKE BILLY, ANDREW AND JOHN AT THE LOCAL BAR. 531 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:36,000 >> JUST WAITING FOR THE CAMERAS. >> Reporter: THEY GREW UP PLAYING HOCKEY TOGETHER. NOW IN THEIR MID-20s PB THEY 532 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,075 >> JUST WAITING FOR THE CAMERAS. >> Reporter: THEY GREW UP PLAYING HOCKEY TOGETHER. NOW IN THEIR MID-20s PB THEY 533 00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:42,000 BOND OVER BEER, WINGS, TRASH TALK, AND LATELY A NEW FIXTURE OF THE FAN EXPERIENCE. >> WHAT DO YOU GUYS BET ON? 534 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,252 BOND OVER BEER, WINGS, TRASH TALK, AND LATELY A NEW FIXTURE OF THE FAN EXPERIENCE. >> WHAT DO YOU GUYS BET ON? 535 00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:48,000 >> FOOTBALL AND HOCKEY. >> DO YOU HAVE A FAMILY? >> BRUINS, PATRIOTS. IF YOU WANT TO LOSE MONEY, YOU 536 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,190 >> FOOTBALL AND HOCKEY. >> DO YOU HAVE A FAMILY? >> BRUINS, PATRIOTS. IF YOU WANT TO LOSE MONEY, YOU 537 00:29:52,257 --> 00:29:54,000 BET ON THE PATRIOTS. >> WINNING AND LOSING MONEY, FOR MILLIONS OF FANS, LIKE THESE GUYS, IT'S ONE MORE REASON TO 538 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,930 BET ON THE PATRIOTS. >> WINNING AND LOSING MONEY, FOR MILLIONS OF FANS, LIKE THESE GUYS, IT'S ONE MORE REASON TO 539 00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:00,000 WATCH AND ENJOY SPORTS. DURING GAMES, PROMOTIONS FOR SPORTS BOOKS LIKE FANDUEL AND DRAFTKINGS ARE EVERYWHERE. 540 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,435 WATCH AND ENJOY SPORTS. DURING GAMES, PROMOTIONS FOR SPORTS BOOKS LIKE FANDUEL AND DRAFTKINGS ARE EVERYWHERE. 541 00:30:04,502 --> 00:30:06,000 ACCOUNTANT LOOIDS BY NEW RIMPB, REVENUE, AT THE TIME OF OUR REPORT, THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES HAVE DONE THAT. 542 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,376 ACCOUNTANT LOOIDS BY NEW RIMPB, REVENUE, AT THE TIME OF OUR REPORT, THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES HAVE DONE THAT. 543 00:30:11,442 --> 00:30:12,000 AND AMERICANS HAVE SPENT MORE THAN A QUARTER OF A TRILLION DOLLARS SPORTS BETTING. THAT'S THE GDP OF GREECE. 544 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,448 AND AMERICANS HAVE SPENT MORE THAN A QUARTER OF A TRILLION DOLLARS SPORTS BETTING. THAT'S THE GDP OF GREECE. 545 00:30:17,515 --> 00:30:18,000 LEAGUES HAVE CASHED IN. NETWORKS TOO. >> I'VE GOT TEACH YOU HOW TO GAMBLE. 546 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,819 LEAGUES HAVE CASHED IN. NETWORKS TOO. >> I'VE GOT TEACH YOU HOW TO GAMBLE. 547 00:30:21,886 --> 00:30:24,000 >> Reporter: FOR DECADES, ODDS AND SPOINT SPREADS WERE FORBIDDEN TOPICS, NOW ESPN HAS ITS OWN SPORTS BOOK. 548 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:30,000 >> Reporter: FOR DECADES, ODDS AND SPOINT SPREADS WERE FORBIDDEN TOPICS, NOW ESPN HAS ITS OWN SPORTS BOOK. 549 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,496 >> Reporter: FOR DECADES, ODDS AND SPOINT SPREADS WERE FORBIDDEN TOPICS, NOW ESPN HAS ITS OWN SPORTS BOOK. 550 00:30:31,563 --> 00:30:36,000 FULL DISCLOSURE, I SIT HERE. >> BACK AT THE BAR, CASUAL SOCIAL BETTORS LIKE BILLY, ANDREW, AND JOHN REVEL IN THEIR 551 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,337 FULL DISCLOSURE, I SIT HERE. >> BACK AT THE BAR, CASUAL SOCIAL BETTORS LIKE BILLY, ANDREW, AND JOHN REVEL IN THEIR 552 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:42,000 WINS. >> WHAT'D YOU THROW DOWN? >> $8 FOR .347. >> SO YOU WON -- WAIT, YOU 553 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,911 WINS. >> WHAT'D YOU THROW DOWN? >> $8 FOR .347. >> SO YOU WON -- WAIT, YOU 554 00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:48,000 WON -- >> STILL EARLY INNINGS AND REMARKABLY, THERE IS NO FEDERAL FUNDING FOR GAMBLING RESEARCH, 555 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,017 WON -- >> STILL EARLY INNINGS AND REMARKABLY, THERE IS NO FEDERAL FUNDING FOR GAMBLING RESEARCH, 556 00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:54,000 SO DATA IS SCARCE. BUT SURVEY AFTER SURVEY CONFIRMS THAT OF 50 MILLION OR SO SPORT BETTORS IN THE U.S., MEN UNDER 557 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000 SO DATA IS SCARCE. BUT SURVEY AFTER SURVEY CONFIRMS THAT OF 50 MILLION OR SO SPORT BETTORS IN THE U.S., MEN UNDER 558 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,725 SO DATA IS SCARCE. BUT SURVEY AFTER SURVEY CONFIRMS THAT OF 50 MILLION OR SO SPORT BETTORS IN THE U.S., MEN UNDER 559 00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:06,000 THE AGE OF 35 ARE FAR AND AWAY THE BIGGEST DEMOGRAPHIC. FOR DECADES, LEAGUES FEARED GAMBLING WOULD CORRUPT 560 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,500 THE AGE OF 35 ARE FAR AND AWAY THE BIGGEST DEMOGRAPHIC. FOR DECADES, LEAGUES FEARED GAMBLING WOULD CORRUPT 561 00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:12,000 COMPETITION. SO FAR, THAT CRISIS HASN'T MUCH HAPPENED, BUT THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS GIVEN SURGE TO A RISE IN 562 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,841 COMPETITION. SO FAR, THAT CRISIS HASN'T MUCH HAPPENED, BUT THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS GIVEN SURGE TO A RISE IN 563 00:31:16,908 --> 00:31:18,000 YOUNG GAMBLING A ADDICTS. JOERIY S RESILL LOWE SAYS HIS PROBLEMS STARTED IN HIGH SCHOOL. >> I HAD A BIG IMPACT. 564 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000 YOUNG GAMBLING A ADDICTS. JOERIY S RESILL LOWE SAYS HIS PROBLEMS STARTED IN HIGH SCHOOL. >> I HAD A BIG IMPACT. 565 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,720 YOUNG GAMBLING A ADDICTS. JOERIY S RESILL LOWE SAYS HIS PROBLEMS STARTED IN HIGH SCHOOL. >> I HAD A BIG IMPACT. 566 00:31:28,786 --> 00:31:30,000 I WORKED MY WHOLE LIFE, I GOT A CHECK EVERY WEEK, BUT IT WOULD DEPOSIT RIGHT INTO WHATEVER APP I WAS USING. 567 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,259 I WORKED MY WHOLE LIFE, I GOT A CHECK EVERY WEEK, BUT IT WOULD DEPOSIT RIGHT INTO WHATEVER APP I WAS USING. 568 00:31:34,325 --> 00:31:36,000 >> WERE YOU INTERESTED IN THE GAME ITSELF? >> I AM A SPORTS FAN, BUT AS THE YEARS COME ON, YOU BECOME LESS 569 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,000 >> WERE YOU INTERESTED IN THE GAME ITSELF? >> I AM A SPORTS FAN, BUT AS THE YEARS COME ON, YOU BECOME LESS 570 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,533 >> WERE YOU INTERESTED IN THE GAME ITSELF? >> I AM A SPORTS FAN, BUT AS THE YEARS COME ON, YOU BECOME LESS 571 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,905 INTERESTED IN THE GAME AND MORE INTERESTED IN THE RESULT. >> Reporter: AND WHO NEEDS A BOOKIE WHEN A FRESH BET IS A 572 00:31:47,972 --> 00:31:48,000 SWIPE AWAY. >> YOU CAN WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, TAKE YOUR PHONE OUT, SET AN ALARM FOR A MATCH 573 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,000 SWIPE AWAY. >> YOU CAN WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, TAKE YOUR PHONE OUT, SET AN ALARM FOR A MATCH 574 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,281 SWIPE AWAY. >> YOU CAN WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, TAKE YOUR PHONE OUT, SET AN ALARM FOR A MATCH 575 00:31:56,347 --> 00:31:59,517 OVERDOSE OVERSEAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE WOULD SNEAK IN BETS AT FAMILY FUNCTIONS. 576 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:00,000 DELETE THE APPS ONE DAY, REINSTALL THEM THE NEXT. TO HELP TO GET CLEAN, A TECH DOWNGRADE. 577 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 DELETE THE APPS ONE DAY, REINSTALL THEM THE NEXT. TO HELP TO GET CLEAN, A TECH DOWNGRADE. 578 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,224 DELETE THE APPS ONE DAY, REINSTALL THEM THE NEXT. TO HELP TO GET CLEAN, A TECH DOWNGRADE. 579 00:32:06,291 --> 00:32:12,000 >> THIS IS THE PHONE I USE ON A DAILY BASIS. YOU CAN'T GAMBLING ON THIS FUN. >> NOT TOOP APPS ON THIS PHONE? 580 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,563 >> THIS IS THE PHONE I USE ON A DAILY BASIS. YOU CAN'T GAMBLING ON THIS FUN. >> NOT TOOP APPS ON THIS PHONE? 581 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:17,735 >> NO. >> I THINK PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR, MIGHT THINK OF A TYPICAL GAMBLING ADDICT, A 582 00:32:17,802 --> 00:32:18,000 MIDDLE-AGED GUY IN A WIND BREAKER WHO'S BETTING HIS RETIREMENT SAVINGS. >> IT'S MORE PROMINENT IN THE 583 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,541 MIDDLE-AGED GUY IN A WIND BREAKER WHO'S BETTING HIS RETIREMENT SAVINGS. >> IT'S MORE PROMINENT IN THE 584 00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:24,000 YOUNGER GENERATION THAN EVER. THE SORTS POBOOKS AND THE COMMERCIALS AND THE LEAGUE THEMSELVES MAKING IT LOOK SO 585 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,781 YOUNGER GENERATION THAN EVER. THE SORTS POBOOKS AND THE COMMERCIALS AND THE LEAGUE THEMSELVES MAKING IT LOOK SO 586 00:32:29,847 --> 00:32:30,000 COOL TO GAMBLE AND RISK YOUR MONEY. >> Reporter: THERE ARE DISTINCT SIGNS OF TROUBLE. 587 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,185 COOL TO GAMBLE AND RISK YOUR MONEY. >> Reporter: THERE ARE DISTINCT SIGNS OF TROUBLE. 588 00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:36,000 ACCORDING TO A SIENA COLLEGE POLL, WHICH WE FIRST REPORTED IN FEBRUARY, OF THE YOUNG MEN AGER ONLINE. 589 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,524 ACCORDING TO A SIENA COLLEGE POLL, WHICH WE FIRST REPORTED IN FEBRUARY, OF THE YOUNG MEN AGER ONLINE. 590 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,000 NEARLY HALF FELT THAT THEY WERE BETTING MORE THAN THEY SHOULD. IN THE FIVE-PLUS YEARS AFTER NEW JERSEY LEGALIZED ONLINE SPORTS 591 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,000 NEARLY HALF FELT THAT THEY WERE BETTING MORE THAN THEY SHOULD. IN THE FIVE-PLUS YEARS AFTER NEW JERSEY LEGALIZED ONLINE SPORTS 592 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,000 NEARLY HALF FELT THAT THEY WERE BETTING MORE THAN THEY SHOULD. IN THE FIVE-PLUS YEARS AFTER NEW JERSEY LEGALIZED ONLINE SPORTS 593 00:32:49,067 --> 00:32:54,000 GAMBLING, CALLS TO THE STATE'S PROBLEM GAMBLING HELP LINE NEARLY TRIPLED. THE LARGEST CALLER DEMOGRAPHIC, 594 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,973 GAMBLING, CALLS TO THE STATE'S PROBLEM GAMBLING HELP LINE NEARLY TRIPLED. THE LARGEST CALLER DEMOGRAPHIC, 595 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,000 25 TO 34. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY HAPPENING, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT YET. 596 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,445 25 TO 34. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY HAPPENING, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT YET. 597 00:33:00,511 --> 00:33:06,000 >> Reporter: HARRY LEVANT IS A GAMBLING ADDICTION THERAPIST AND LEADING VOICE ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACTS OF ONLINE SPORTS 598 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,318 >> Reporter: HARRY LEVANT IS A GAMBLING ADDICTION THERAPIST AND LEADING VOICE ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACTS OF ONLINE SPORTS 599 00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:12,000 BETTING. A DECADE AGO, LEVANT WAS A TRIAL LAWYER, WHOSE GAMBLING ADDICTION WAS SO FIERCE, HE USED CLIENT 600 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,459 BETTING. A DECADE AGO, LEVANT WAS A TRIAL LAWYER, WHOSE GAMBLING ADDICTION WAS SO FIERCE, HE USED CLIENT 601 00:33:14,525 --> 00:33:18,000 MONEY TO FUEL HIS HABIT, LEADING TO HIS DISBARMENT. IN HIS CURRENT CAREER, HE'S NOTICED TODAY'S DESPERATE 602 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,768 MONEY TO FUEL HIS HABIT, LEADING TO HIS DISBARMENT. IN HIS CURRENT CAREER, HE'S NOTICED TODAY'S DESPERATE 603 00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:24,000 GAMBLER LOOKS AND ACTS A LOT DIFFERENT. >> I HAVE PATIENTS WHO GAMBLE IN THE SHOWER, WHO GAMBLE BEFORE 604 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,172 GAMBLER LOOKS AND ACTS A LOT DIFFERENT. >> I HAVE PATIENTS WHO GAMBLE IN THE SHOWER, WHO GAMBLE BEFORE 605 00:33:28,239 --> 00:33:30,000 THEY GET OUT OF BED IN THE MORNING, PATIENTS WHO GAMBLE WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING. THERE ARE NO GUARDRAILS. 606 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,411 THEY GET OUT OF BED IN THE MORNING, PATIENTS WHO GAMBLE WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING. THERE ARE NO GUARDRAILS. 607 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,000 WE SCIENTIFICALLY KNOW THE RISK RISK/REWARD SYSTEM FOR A YOUNG MAN ISN'T FULLY FORMULATED UNTIL YOU'RE 25. 608 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,000 WE SCIENTIFICALLY KNOW THE RISK RISK/REWARD SYSTEM FOR A YOUNG MAN ISN'T FULLY FORMULATED UNTIL YOU'RE 25. 609 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,054 WE SCIENTIFICALLY KNOW THE RISK RISK/REWARD SYSTEM FOR A YOUNG MAN ISN'T FULLY FORMULATED UNTIL YOU'RE 25. 610 00:33:43,121 --> 00:33:48,000 >> WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THE MNEY? >> I HAVE SOME PATIENTS THAT ARE PATIENTS THAT HAVE GAMBLED 611 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,128 >> WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THE MNEY? >> I HAVE SOME PATIENTS THAT ARE PATIENTS THAT HAVE GAMBLED 612 00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:54,000 FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN MONEY OR WHO HAVE GAMBLED AWAY INHERITANCES. >> IT WAS AN NFL SUNDAY, 613 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,268 FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN MONEY OR WHO HAVE GAMBLED AWAY INHERITANCES. >> IT WAS AN NFL SUNDAY, 614 00:33:57,335 --> 00:34:00,000 ALTHOUGH ON DRAFTKINGS, THE BETTING OPTIONS EXTENDED FALL BEYOND FOOTBALL. >> SOCCER. 615 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,141 ALTHOUGH ON DRAFTKINGS, THE BETTING OPTIONS EXTENDED FALL BEYOND FOOTBALL. >> SOCCER. 616 00:34:03,207 --> 00:34:06,000 BASKETBALL, HOCKEY, MOTOR SPORTS, RUGBY, VOLLEYBALL. >> AND THERE WAS TENNIS. >> A CHALLENGER QUALIFYING MATCH 617 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,000 BASKETBALL, HOCKEY, MOTOR SPORTS, RUGBY, VOLLEYBALL. >> AND THERE WAS TENNIS. >> A CHALLENGER QUALIFYING MATCH 618 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,854 BASKETBALL, HOCKEY, MOTOR SPORTS, RUGBY, VOLLEYBALL. >> AND THERE WAS TENNIS. >> A CHALLENGER QUALIFYING MATCH 619 00:34:16,921 --> 00:34:18,000 IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. >> THOSE ARE TWO NAMES I'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE. >> THIS IS NOT ABOUT TENNIS. 620 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,094 IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. >> THOSE ARE TWO NAMES I'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE. >> THIS IS NOT ABOUT TENNIS. 621 00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:24,000 THEY'RE NOT DESIGNING THEM FOR THE FANS OF QUALIFIER TENNIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO 622 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,000 THEY'RE NOT DESIGNING THEM FOR THE FANS OF QUALIFIER TENNIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO 623 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,635 THEY'RE NOT DESIGNING THEM FOR THE FANS OF QUALIFIER TENNIS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO 624 00:34:30,701 --> 00:34:36,000 WANT MORE ACTION. >> Reporter: THE TOPPORTUNITIES FOR ACTION ARE LITERALLY LIMITLESS. 625 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,073 WANT MORE ACTION. >> Reporter: THE TOPPORTUNITIES FOR ACTION ARE LITERALLY LIMITLESS. 626 00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:42,000 LIVE IN-GAME MICROBETTING ALLOWS USERS TO WAGER ON EVERY PITCH, SERVE, AND SNAP. >> IF YOU COME DOWN HERE, YOU 627 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,816 LIVE IN-GAME MICROBETTING ALLOWS USERS TO WAGER ON EVERY PITCH, SERVE, AND SNAP. >> IF YOU COME DOWN HERE, YOU 628 00:34:44,882 --> 00:34:48,000 CAN BET ON THE CURRENT DRIVE OF THE GREEN BAY PACKERS, WILL IT BE A PUNT, A TOUCHDOWN, A TURNOVER, OR A FIELD GOAL. 629 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,289 CAN BET ON THE CURRENT DRIVE OF THE GREEN BAY PACKERS, WILL IT BE A PUNT, A TOUCHDOWN, A TURNOVER, OR A FIELD GOAL. 630 00:34:51,355 --> 00:34:54,000 >> Reporter: USING ALGORITHMS POWERED BY ZBLAI, DRAFTKINGS REFRESHES THE ODDS CONSTANTLY. A FAN CAN'T POSSIBLY CALCULATE 631 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,000 >> Reporter: USING ALGORITHMS POWERED BY ZBLAI, DRAFTKINGS REFRESHES THE ODDS CONSTANTLY. A FAN CAN'T POSSIBLY CALCULATE 632 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000 >> Reporter: USING ALGORITHMS POWERED BY ZBLAI, DRAFTKINGS REFRESHES THE ODDS CONSTANTLY. A FAN CAN'T POSSIBLY CALCULATE 633 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,406 >> Reporter: USING ALGORITHMS POWERED BY ZBLAI, DRAFTKINGS REFRESHES THE ODDS CONSTANTLY. A FAN CAN'T POSSIBLY CALCULATE 634 00:35:08,473 --> 00:35:12,000 WHETHER IT'S A GOOD BET OR A BAD BET. >> THEY HAVE AKDS TO ALL OF THE STATS COMBINED WITH ARTIFICIAL 635 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,245 WHETHER IT'S A GOOD BET OR A BAD BET. >> THEY HAVE AKDS TO ALL OF THE STATS COMBINED WITH ARTIFICIAL 636 00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:18,000 INTELLIGENCE AND THE ABILITY TO PREDICT WHAT WILL DRAW THE ACTION IN. >> Reporter: MATT ZARB'S COUSIN 637 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,250 INTELLIGENCE AND THE ABILITY TO PREDICT WHAT WILL DRAW THE ACTION IN. >> Reporter: MATT ZARB'S COUSIN 638 00:35:19,317 --> 00:35:24,000 IS A LEADING GAMBLING REFORMER IN THE UK. HE'S ALSO A RECOVERING GAMBLING ADDICT. 639 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,690 IS A LEADING GAMBLING REFORMER IN THE UK. HE'S ALSO A RECOVERING GAMBLING ADDICT. 640 00:35:25,756 --> 00:35:30,000 >> I WOULD SAY, UNDERSTAND L WHAT THE NATURE OF THESE COMPANIES REALLY IS. THEY ARE BIG DATA COMPANIES THAT 641 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,864 >> I WOULD SAY, UNDERSTAND L WHAT THE NATURE OF THESE COMPANIES REALLY IS. THEY ARE BIG DATA COMPANIES THAT 642 00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:36,000 ARE EXTRACTIVE. >> ZARB'S COUSIN SUCCESSFULLY LOBBIED FOR STRICTER GAMBLING REGULATIONS IN BRITAIN, LIMITING 643 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,639 ARE EXTRACTIVE. >> ZARB'S COUSIN SUCCESSFULLY LOBBIED FOR STRICTER GAMBLING REGULATIONS IN BRITAIN, LIMITING 644 00:35:41,706 --> 00:35:42,000 HOW MUCH COMPANIES CAN ADVERTISE AND HOW MUCH GAMBLERS CAN WAGERER. HE SAID THE UK, WHERE GAMBLING 645 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,612 HOW MUCH COMPANIES CAN ADVERTISE AND HOW MUCH GAMBLERS CAN WAGERER. HE SAID THE UK, WHERE GAMBLING 646 00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:48,000 HAS BEEN LEGAL FOR DECADES, OFFERS A SOBER GLIMPSE FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IS A CRISIS HEADED STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE U.S. 647 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000 HAS BEEN LEGAL FOR DECADES, OFFERS A SOBER GLIMPSE FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IS A CRISIS HEADED STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE U.S. 648 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,787 HAS BEEN LEGAL FOR DECADES, OFFERS A SOBER GLIMPSE FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IS A CRISIS HEADED STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE U.S. 649 00:35:56,854 --> 00:36:00,000 >> YOU ASSUME IT'S SAFE. YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW EASY IT IS TO GET ADDICTED. >> ADDICTION INTENSIFIED ABOUT 650 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,160 >> YOU ASSUME IT'S SAFE. YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW EASY IT IS TO GET ADDICTED. >> ADDICTION INTENSIFIED ABOUT 651 00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:06,000 HOW MUCH THE GAMBLING COMPANIES KNOWS ABOUT EACH USER. RECENTLY, ZARB'S COUSIN WAS ABLE TO ACCESS DATA THAT FLUTTER HAD 652 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,000 HOW MUCH THE GAMBLING COMPANIES KNOWS ABOUT EACH USER. RECENTLY, ZARB'S COUSIN WAS ABLE TO ACCESS DATA THAT FLUTTER HAD 653 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,870 HOW MUCH THE GAMBLING COMPANIES KNOWS ABOUT EACH USER. RECENTLY, ZARB'S COUSIN WAS ABLE TO ACCESS DATA THAT FLUTTER HAD 654 00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:18,000 ON A UK CUSTOMER. THAT DATA WAS USED TO TAILOR OFFERS AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS TO KEEP THE GUY IN ACTION. 655 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,078 ON A UK CUSTOMER. THAT DATA WAS USED TO TAILOR OFFERS AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS TO KEEP THE GUY IN ACTION. 656 00:36:21,145 --> 00:36:24,000 >> WHERE'D YOU LEARN IT? >> ABOUT 93 DIFFERENT DATA POINTS THEY HAD ON THIS INDIVIDUAL WERE WHEN THEY BET, 657 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,051 >> WHERE'D YOU LEARN IT? >> ABOUT 93 DIFFERENT DATA POINTS THEY HAD ON THIS INDIVIDUAL WERE WHEN THEY BET, 658 00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:30,000 WHAT OFFERS WORKED, WHAT INDUCEMENTED WORKED. ME HE PLAYED SLOTS FOR THREE TO FOUR DAYS STRAIGHT. 659 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,000 WHAT OFFERS WORKED, WHAT INDUCEMENTED WORKED. ME HE PLAYED SLOTS FOR THREE TO FOUR DAYS STRAIGHT. 660 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,695 WHAT OFFERS WORKED, WHAT INDUCEMENTED WORKED. ME HE PLAYED SLOTS FOR THREE TO FOUR DAYS STRAIGHT. 661 00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:42,000 SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN UP GAMBLING FOR A WHILE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME BACK. THERE'S 2,514 DEPOSITS IN A YEAR 662 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,338 SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN UP GAMBLING FOR A WHILE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME BACK. THERE'S 2,514 DEPOSITS IN A YEAR 663 00:36:47,405 --> 00:36:48,000 THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN A DAY. >> THESE GAMBLING COMPANIES THAT KNOW WHEN WE'RE MOST IMPETUOUS, THAT HAS REALMS AND REALMS OF 664 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,000 THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN A DAY. >> THESE GAMBLING COMPANIES THAT KNOW WHEN WE'RE MOST IMPETUOUS, THAT HAS REALMS AND REALMS OF 665 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,647 THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN A DAY. >> THESE GAMBLING COMPANIES THAT KNOW WHEN WE'RE MOST IMPETUOUS, THAT HAS REALMS AND REALMS OF 666 00:36:56,714 --> 00:37:00,000 DATA ON US, WHAT MATCHES THAT FOR THE ADOLESCENT MALE? >> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT A FAIR WAGER. 667 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,323 DATA ON US, WHAT MATCHES THAT FOR THE ADOLESCENT MALE? >> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT A FAIR WAGER. 668 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:06,000 >> DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO PINPOINT POTENTIAL PROBLEM GAMBLER S GAMBLERS? 669 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,000 >> DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO PINPOINT POTENTIAL PROBLEM GAMBLER S GAMBLERS? 670 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,331 >> DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO PINPOINT POTENTIAL PROBLEM GAMBLER S GAMBLERS? 671 00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:18,000 >> WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> SOMETIMES THEY BAN VULNERABLE CUSTOMERS OUTRIGHT. THE TWO LARGEST SPORTS BOOKS IN 672 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,237 >> WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> SOMETIMES THEY BAN VULNERABLE CUSTOMERS OUTRIGHT. THE TWO LARGEST SPORTS BOOKS IN 673 00:37:20,304 --> 00:37:24,000 THE U.S. SAID THE SAME, THOUGH DECLINED TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHEN THEY'VE DONE SO. WE HAD ARRANGED TO SPEAK TO 674 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,511 THE U.S. SAID THE SAME, THOUGH DECLINED TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHEN THEY'VE DONE SO. WE HAD ARRANGED TO SPEAK TO 675 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:30,000 DRAFTKINGS ABOUT ALL OF THIS, BUT ABRUPTLY THEY PULLED OUT OF OUR SCHEDULED ON-CAMERA INTERVIEW. 676 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,651 DRAFTKINGS ABOUT ALL OF THIS, BUT ABRUPTLY THEY PULLED OUT OF OUR SCHEDULED ON-CAMERA INTERVIEW. 677 00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:36,000 SO WE CAME TO WASHINGTON, D.C. TO MEET BILL MILLER, PRESIDENT OF THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY'S CHIEF TRADE GROUP, THE AMERICAN 678 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,525 SO WE CAME TO WASHINGTON, D.C. TO MEET BILL MILLER, PRESIDENT OF THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY'S CHIEF TRADE GROUP, THE AMERICAN 679 00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:42,000 GAMBLING ASSOCIATION. TAKE OUT OUR PHONE, 24 HOURS A DAY, A FEW SWIPS. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT WITH 680 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,998 GAMBLING ASSOCIATION. TAKE OUT OUR PHONE, 24 HOURS A DAY, A FEW SWIPS. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT WITH 681 00:37:47,064 --> 00:37:48,000 THE FACT THAT THIS ENTERTAINMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ADDICT USERS? >> THE ADDICTION ELEMENT OF, ARE 682 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,971 THE FACT THAT THIS ENTERTAINMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ADDICT USERS? >> THE ADDICTION ELEMENT OF, ARE 683 00:37:54,038 --> 00:38:00,000 PEOPLE ADDICTED TO THEIR PHONES, WHICH IS A COMMON PHRASE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN ADDICTION TO MOBILE BETTING 684 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,845 PEOPLE ADDICTED TO THEIR PHONES, WHICH IS A COMMON PHRASE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN ADDICTION TO MOBILE BETTING 685 00:38:00,911 --> 00:38:06,000 ANYMORE THAN THERE IS AN ADDICTION TO UTILIZATION OF YOUR PHONE FOR ANY OTHER REASON. >> YOU DON'T THINK ADDING A 686 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,619 ANYMORE THAN THERE IS AN ADDICTION TO UTILIZATION OF YOUR PHONE FOR ANY OTHER REASON. >> YOU DON'T THINK ADDING A 687 00:38:08,686 --> 00:38:12,000 LAYER OF BETTING MAKES THE PHONE MORE ADDICTIVE THAN TOOLING GRANDER INSTAGRAM? >> NO. 688 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,459 LAYER OF BETTING MAKES THE PHONE MORE ADDICTIVE THAN TOOLING GRANDER INSTAGRAM? >> NO. 689 00:38:15,526 --> 00:38:18,000 >> EVERY CLINICIAN WE'VE SPOKEN TO SAID, WE'VE NOTICED A RISE IN PROBLEM GAMBLING. THERE WERE THERE'S A LOT MORE 690 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,734 >> EVERY CLINICIAN WE'VE SPOKEN TO SAID, WE'VE NOTICED A RISE IN PROBLEM GAMBLING. THERE WERE THERE'S A LOT MORE 691 00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:24,000 PROBLEM GAMBLING THAN THERE WERE PRE-2018. >> I WOULD CONCEDE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WITH 692 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,472 PROBLEM GAMBLING THAN THERE WERE PRE-2018. >> I WOULD CONCEDE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WITH 693 00:38:28,539 --> 00:38:30,000 KNOWN GAMBLING PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE IN THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY ARE FLAGGING THOSE PEOPLE. THE ILLEGAL INDUSTRY DOESN'T 694 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,412 KNOWN GAMBLING PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE IN THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY ARE FLAGGING THOSE PEOPLE. THE ILLEGAL INDUSTRY DOESN'T 695 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,000 FLAG ANY OF THEM. >> Reporter: MILLER TOLD US SPORTS BOOKS LOOK AT BETTING PATTERNS TO SPOT PROBLEM 696 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,686 FLAG ANY OF THEM. >> Reporter: MILLER TOLD US SPORTS BOOKS LOOK AT BETTING PATTERNS TO SPOT PROBLEM 697 00:38:41,752 --> 00:38:42,000 GAMBLERS, BUT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A UNIFORM, INDUSTRY-WIDE POLICY ON THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. 698 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,758 GAMBLERS, BUT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A UNIFORM, INDUSTRY-WIDE POLICY ON THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. 699 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:48,000 >> THERE IS PROBLEM GAMBLING, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. WHETHER IT'S GOTTEN BIGGER OR JUST BECOME MORE NOTICEABLE 700 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,431 >> THERE IS PROBLEM GAMBLING, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. WHETHER IT'S GOTTEN BIGGER OR JUST BECOME MORE NOTICEABLE 701 00:38:53,497 --> 00:38:54,000 BECAUSE SPORTS BETTING IS LEGAL, I THINK IS AN UNKNOWN. >> REALLY? >> MY VIEW, ABSOLUTELY, IS WE 702 00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,000 BECAUSE SPORTS BETTING IS LEGAL, I THINK IS AN UNKNOWN. >> REALLY? >> MY VIEW, ABSOLUTELY, IS WE 703 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,907 BECAUSE SPORTS BETTING IS LEGAL, I THINK IS AN UNKNOWN. >> REALLY? >> MY VIEW, ABSOLUTELY, IS WE 704 00:39:02,973 --> 00:39:06,000 NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO MITIGATE THIS ISSUE. >> YET GIVEN ALL THE HIGH TECH 705 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,548 NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO MITIGATE THIS ISSUE. >> YET GIVEN ALL THE HIGH TECH 706 00:39:10,614 --> 00:39:12,000 DESIGNED TO GET GAMBLERS ON TO THE SPORTS BOOK, FOR THOSE SEEKING TO QUIT, THEY'RE OFTEN DIRECTED TO A GLARINGLY 707 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,000 DESIGNED TO GET GAMBLERS ON TO THE SPORTS BOOK, FOR THOSE SEEKING TO QUIT, THEY'RE OFTEN DIRECTED TO A GLARINGLY 708 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,989 DESIGNED TO GET GAMBLERS ON TO THE SPORTS BOOK, FOR THOSE SEEKING TO QUIT, THEY'RE OFTEN DIRECTED TO A GLARINGLY 709 00:39:19,056 --> 00:39:23,394 OLD-SCHOOL SOLUTION, A 1-800 NUMBER. >> THAT'S A DANGEROUS APPROACH. >> WHY? 710 00:39:23,461 --> 00:39:24,000 >> IT TAKES THE ENTIRE ONUS TO PUT IT BACK ON THE INDIVIDUAL. TO TAKE AN ADDICTIVE PRODUCT LIKE GAMBLING AND MICROBETTING, 711 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000 >> IT TAKES THE ENTIRE ONUS TO PUT IT BACK ON THE INDIVIDUAL. TO TAKE AN ADDICTIVE PRODUCT LIKE GAMBLING AND MICROBETTING, 712 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,137 >> IT TAKES THE ENTIRE ONUS TO PUT IT BACK ON THE INDIVIDUAL. TO TAKE AN ADDICTIVE PRODUCT LIKE GAMBLING AND MICROBETTING, 713 00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,000 AND DELIVER IT IN LIGHT SPEED, AND SAY TO PEOPLE, USE IN RESPONSIBLY. IT IS WRONG. 714 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,508 AND DELIVER IT IN LIGHT SPEED, AND SAY TO PEOPLE, USE IN RESPONSIBLY. IT IS WRONG. 715 00:39:37,575 --> 00:39:42,000 AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH TOBACCO. >> Reporter: HARRY LEVANT DOESN'T MAKE THAT ANALOGY 716 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,150 AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH TOBACCO. >> Reporter: HARRY LEVANT DOESN'T MAKE THAT ANALOGY 717 00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:48,000 CASUALLY. RECENTLY, HE HAD PAIRED UP AN ARK TOESKT FIRST MAJOR LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BIG GAK COMPANIES. 718 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:54,000 CASUALLY. RECENTLY, HE HAD PAIRED UP AN ARK TOESKT FIRST MAJOR LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BIG GAK COMPANIES. 719 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,559 CASUALLY. RECENTLY, HE HAD PAIRED UP AN ARK TOESKT FIRST MAJOR LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BIG GAK COMPANIES. 720 00:39:55,626 --> 00:40:00,000 ALONG WITH MARK GOTTLIEB, THEY WERE PREPARING TO WAGE WAR AGAINST MOBILE GAMBLING ADDICTION. 721 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,264 ALONG WITH MARK GOTTLIEB, THEY WERE PREPARING TO WAGE WAR AGAINST MOBILE GAMBLING ADDICTION. 722 00:40:00,331 --> 00:40:06,000 >> YOU MADE A NAME FOR YOURSELF FIGHTING BIG TOBACCO. WHAT YOU SEE AS THE OVERLAMB? >> FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE DEALING 723 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,872 >> YOU MADE A NAME FOR YOURSELF FIGHTING BIG TOBACCO. WHAT YOU SEE AS THE OVERLAMB? >> FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE DEALING 724 00:40:07,938 --> 00:40:12,000 WITH AN ADDICTIVE PRODUCT. WE'RE DEALING WITH AN INDUSTRY THAT WILL STILL DEFEND SOMETIMES ON THE BASIS THAT IT'S REALLY A 725 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,379 WITH AN ADDICTIVE PRODUCT. WE'RE DEALING WITH AN INDUSTRY THAT WILL STILL DEFEND SOMETIMES ON THE BASIS THAT IT'S REALLY A 726 00:40:15,446 --> 00:40:18,000 SMOKER WHO'S MAKING THE CHOICE. SO WE HAVE THAT KPLGT WITH THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY. >> FOLLOWING DEIGNARD'S FWLTOBA 727 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,000 SMOKER WHO'S MAKING THE CHOICE. SO WE HAVE THAT KPLGT WITH THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY. >> FOLLOWING DEIGNARD'S FWLTOBA 728 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,224 SMOKER WHO'S MAKING THE CHOICE. SO WE HAVE THAT KPLGT WITH THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY. >> FOLLOWING DEIGNARD'S FWLTOBA 729 00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:30,000 PLAYBOOK, THEY FILED THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE A SERIES OF LAWSUITS, SUING DRAFTKINGS FOR DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING, CLAIMS 730 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,331 PLAYBOOK, THEY FILED THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE A SERIES OF LAWSUITS, SUING DRAFTKINGS FOR DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING, CLAIMS 731 00:40:34,398 --> 00:40:36,000 DRAFTKINGS DRAFTKINGS, QUOTE, DISAGREES WITH. THE GROUP IS LOBBYING CONGRESS 732 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,468 DRAFTKINGS DRAFTKINGS, QUOTE, DISAGREES WITH. THE GROUP IS LOBBYING CONGRESS 733 00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:42,000 TO ENACT FEDERAL REGULATIONS. THEY SAY THE CURRENT MISHMASH OF STATE-BY-STATE POLICIES JUST SUSPECT WORKING. 734 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,741 TO ENACT FEDERAL REGULATIONS. THEY SAY THE CURRENT MISHMASH OF STATE-BY-STATE POLICIES JUST SUSPECT WORKING. 735 00:40:43,808 --> 00:40:48,000 >> THIS IS NOT THE TEMPERANCE UNION AND YOU'RE TRYING TO OUTLAW GAMBLING. >> WE HAVE SEEN CERTAINLY WITH A 736 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,649 >> THIS IS NOT THE TEMPERANCE UNION AND YOU'RE TRYING TO OUTLAW GAMBLING. >> WE HAVE SEEN CERTAINLY WITH A 737 00:40:51,715 --> 00:40:54,000 TOBACCO A LOT OF RULES TO CONTROL THE WAY THESE PRODUCTS ARE PROMOTED. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 738 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,353 TOBACCO A LOT OF RULES TO CONTROL THE WAY THESE PRODUCTS ARE PROMOTED. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 739 00:40:56,420 --> 00:41:00,000 WITH THESE PRODUCTS AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, IT'S SOMETIMES A ASCRIBED AS THE WILD WEST, BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST NO 740 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,000 WITH THESE PRODUCTS AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, IT'S SOMETIMES A ASCRIBED AS THE WILD WEST, BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST NO 741 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,730 WITH THESE PRODUCTS AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, IT'S SOMETIMES A ASCRIBED AS THE WILD WEST, BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST NO 742 00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:12,000 CONTROLS AT ALL. >> SAFE TO SAY WHEN THE SUPREME COURT OPENED THE FLOOT GAETZ TO SPORTS BETTING IN 2018, IT 743 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,805 CONTROLS AT ALL. >> SAFE TO SAY WHEN THE SUPREME COURT OPENED THE FLOOT GAETZ TO SPORTS BETTING IN 2018, IT 744 00:41:14,872 --> 00:41:18,000 DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AI-POWERED ODDS ON EVERY SNAP. OR PUSH NOTIFICATIONS DESIGNED TO KEEP BETTERSES BETTING. 745 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,814 DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AI-POWERED ODDS ON EVERY SNAP. OR PUSH NOTIFICATIONS DESIGNED TO KEEP BETTERSES BETTING. 746 00:41:23,881 --> 00:41:24,000 >> THAT WAS ONLY FIVE YEARS AGO. >> THAT'S THE FRIGHTENING THIS. WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. 747 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,000 >> THAT WAS ONLY FIVE YEARS AGO. >> THAT'S THE FRIGHTENING THIS. WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. 748 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,422 >> THAT WAS ONLY FIVE YEARS AGO. >> THAT'S THE FRIGHTENING THIS. WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. 749 00:41:31,488 --> 00:41:36,000 THESE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME MORE 750 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,000 THESE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME MORE 751 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,099 THESE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME MORE 752 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:48,000 >>> 753 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,000 >>> 754 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,947 >>>