1 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:12,000 >>> THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS IS MARSHALING HIS OWN STATE'S RESOURCES TYKE CONTROL OF WHAT HE CALLS A FAILED FEDERAL 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,000 >>> THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS IS MARSHALING HIS OWN STATE'S RESOURCES TYKE CONTROL OF WHAT HE CALLS A FAILED FEDERAL 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,017 >>> THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS IS MARSHALING HIS OWN STATE'S RESOURCES TYKE CONTROL OF WHAT HE CALLS A FAILED FEDERAL 4 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:23,823 RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS AT THE BORDER. HE'S BEEN CRITICIZED FOR PLAYING POLITICS WITH IMMIGRATION, BUT 5 00:00:23,890 --> 00:00:24,000 HE'S DOUBLING DOWN ON RAZOR WIRE, SOLDIERS, AND TOUGH NEW LAWS. WHAT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,863 HE'S DOUBLING DOWN ON RAZOR WIRE, SOLDIERS, AND TOUGH NEW LAWS. WHAT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO 7 00:00:29,929 --> 00:00:30,000 TELL THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WHAT TO DO? >> THIS LAND WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW WAS USED BY THE FEDERAL 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,000 TELL THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WHAT TO DO? >> THIS LAND WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW WAS USED BY THE FEDERAL 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,603 TELL THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WHAT TO DO? >> THIS LAND WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW WAS USED BY THE FEDERAL 10 00:00:36,669 --> 00:00:42,000 GOVERNMENT TO FURTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. AND I WANT TO PUT A STOP TO IT. >>> THERE WERE MORE THAN 3,000 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,611 GOVERNMENT TO FURTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. AND I WANT TO PUT A STOP TO IT. >>> THERE WERE MORE THAN 3,000 12 00:00:44,677 --> 00:00:48,000 BOOK BANS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS LAST YEAR. 1,000 MORE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. WE WENT TO ONE CONSERVATIVE 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,118 BOOK BANS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS LAST YEAR. 1,000 MORE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. WE WENT TO ONE CONSERVATIVE 14 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:54,000 SOUTHERN TOWN TO HEAR HOW THEY'RE TURNING THE PAGE. >> PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,459 SOUTHERN TOWN TO HEAR HOW THEY'RE TURNING THE PAGE. >> PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN 16 00:00:59,526 --> 00:01:00,000 ARE TAUGHT AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO READ. BUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS PARENTS THAT WANT TO 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,565 ARE TAUGHT AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO READ. BUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS PARENTS THAT WANT TO 18 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:06,000 DETERMINE WHAT OTHER PARENTS' RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >>> ELON MUSK AND JEFF BEZOS, 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,000 DETERMINE WHAT OTHER PARENTS' RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >>> ELON MUSK AND JEFF BEZOS, 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,609 DETERMINE WHAT OTHER PARENTS' RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >>> ELON MUSK AND JEFF BEZOS, 21 00:01:16,676 --> 00:01:18,000 TWO OF THE RICHEST MEN IN THE WORLD, ARE IN A RACE TO HELP NASA PUT ASTRONAUTS BACK ON THE MOON AND THEN ON TO MARS. 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,000 TWO OF THE RICHEST MEN IN THE WORLD, ARE IN A RACE TO HELP NASA PUT ASTRONAUTS BACK ON THE MOON AND THEN ON TO MARS. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,186 TWO OF THE RICHEST MEN IN THE WORLD, ARE IN A RACE TO HELP NASA PUT ASTRONAUTS BACK ON THE MOON AND THEN ON TO MARS. 24 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:30,000 >> AND LIFTOFF OF ARTEMIS I. >> IT'S NOT SCIENCE FICTION, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT EASY. AND THAT'S OUR STORY TONIGHT. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,428 >> AND LIFTOFF OF ARTEMIS I. >> IT'S NOT SCIENCE FICTION, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT EASY. AND THAT'S OUR STORY TONIGHT. 26 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:36,000 >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WLIT KERR. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,000 >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WLIT KERR. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,368 >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WLIT KERR. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. 29 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:48,000 >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES A 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES A 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,382 >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES A 32 00:01:56,449 --> 00:02:00,000 >>> THIS PAST WEEK, BOTH PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP VISITED THE SOUTHERN BORDER IN TEXAS. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,156 >>> THIS PAST WEEK, BOTH PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP VISITED THE SOUTHERN BORDER IN TEXAS. 34 00:02:03,223 --> 00:02:06,000 THERE'S NO DENYING IMMIGRATION HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND CONTENTIOUS ISSUES IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,762 THERE'S NO DENYING IMMIGRATION HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND CONTENTIOUS ISSUES IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, 36 00:02:09,829 --> 00:02:12,000 AND THERE'S NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF THAT THAN THE HIGH-STAKES FIGHT BETWEEN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,102 AND THERE'S NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF THAT THAN THE HIGH-STAKES FIGHT BETWEEN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 38 00:02:16,169 --> 00:02:18,000 THREE YEARS AGO, TEXAS GOVERNOR GREGG ABBOTT LAUNCHED OPERATION LONE STAR, DEPLOYING THOUSANDS OF POLICE AND SOLDIERS AND MILES 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,543 THREE YEARS AGO, TEXAS GOVERNOR GREGG ABBOTT LAUNCHED OPERATION LONE STAR, DEPLOYING THOUSANDS OF POLICE AND SOLDIERS AND MILES 40 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:24,000 OF BARRIERS TO DETER RECORD NUMBERS OF ILLEGAL CROSSINGS. THE SUPREME COURT HAS REPEATEDLY RULED THAT IMMIGRATION IS THE 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 OF BARRIERS TO DETER RECORD NUMBERS OF ILLEGAL CROSSINGS. THE SUPREME COURT HAS REPEATEDLY RULED THAT IMMIGRATION IS THE 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,118 OF BARRIERS TO DETER RECORD NUMBERS OF ILLEGAL CROSSINGS. THE SUPREME COURT HAS REPEATEDLY RULED THAT IMMIGRATION IS THE 43 00:02:32,185 --> 00:02:36,000 JOB OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT RARELY HAS A STATE SO AGGRESSIVELY CHALLENGED THAT AUTHORITY. 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,557 JOB OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT RARELY HAS A STATE SO AGGRESSIVELY CHALLENGED THAT AUTHORITY. 45 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:42,000 IN JANUARY, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED HIS STATE NATIONAL GUARD TO BLOCK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BORDER PATROL FROM 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,730 IN JANUARY, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED HIS STATE NATIONAL GUARD TO BLOCK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BORDER PATROL FROM 47 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:48,000 SHELBY PARK, A DUSTY STRETCH OF BORDER ALONG THE RIO GRANDE IN EAGLE PASS, TEXAS. TO UNDERSTAND WHY, YOU NEED TO 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,271 SHELBY PARK, A DUSTY STRETCH OF BORDER ALONG THE RIO GRANDE IN EAGLE PASS, TEXAS. TO UNDERSTAND WHY, YOU NEED TO 49 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:54,000 SEE WHAT HAPPENED THERE IN DECEMBER. WE WERE ON THE BANKS OF THE RIVER BEFORE DAWN, WITH SOLDIERS 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,711 SEE WHAT HAPPENED THERE IN DECEMBER. WE WERE ON THE BANKS OF THE RIVER BEFORE DAWN, WITH SOLDIERS 51 00:02:58,778 --> 00:03:00,000 FROM THE TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD. WE HEARD THE CRIES OF PEOPLE BEFORE WE COULD SEE THEIR FACES. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE MOVED CLOSER 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 FROM THE TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD. WE HEARD THE CRIES OF PEOPLE BEFORE WE COULD SEE THEIR FACES. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE MOVED CLOSER 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,554 FROM THE TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD. WE HEARD THE CRIES OF PEOPLE BEFORE WE COULD SEE THEIR FACES. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE MOVED CLOSER 54 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:12,000 THAT WE REALIZED HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD JUST CROSSED FROM MEXICO. THE SOLDIERS TOLD THEM IT WAS DANGEROUS TO CROSS HERE. 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,000 THAT WE REALIZED HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD JUST CROSSED FROM MEXICO. THE SOLDIERS TOLD THEM IT WAS DANGEROUS TO CROSS HERE. 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,367 THAT WE REALIZED HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD JUST CROSSED FROM MEXICO. THE SOLDIERS TOLD THEM IT WAS DANGEROUS TO CROSS HERE. 57 00:03:21,434 --> 00:03:24,000 HELP US, THEY BEGGED. SOME OF THE WOMEN CRIED, WE HAVE CHILDREN. >> AHH! 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,308 HELP US, THEY BEGGED. SOME OF THE WOMEN CRIED, WE HAVE CHILDREN. >> AHH! 59 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:30,000 >> WE HEARD GROANS AND FOUND THIS YOUNG MAN TWISTING IN THE WIRE. HE KEPT GOING. 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:36,000 >> WE HEARD GROANS AND FOUND THIS YOUNG MAN TWISTING IN THE WIRE. HE KEPT GOING. 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,352 >> WE HEARD GROANS AND FOUND THIS YOUNG MAN TWISTING IN THE WIRE. HE KEPT GOING. 62 00:03:39,419 --> 00:03:42,000 STAY CALM, THEY TOLD EACH OTHER, AS FAMILIES PUSHED THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH. NEARLY EVERYONE WE SAW MADE IT 63 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,000 STAY CALM, THEY TOLD EACH OTHER, AS FAMILIES PUSHED THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH. NEARLY EVERYONE WE SAW MADE IT 64 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,097 STAY CALM, THEY TOLD EACH OTHER, AS FAMILIES PUSHED THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH. NEARLY EVERYONE WE SAW MADE IT 65 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:54,000 ACROSS AND INTO THE UNITED STATES. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A DAY CROSSED HERE IN LATE DECEMBER, A 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,705 ACROSS AND INTO THE UNITED STATES. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A DAY CROSSED HERE IN LATE DECEMBER, A 67 00:03:58,771 --> 00:04:00,000 RECORD FOR THIS SECTION OF THE TEXAS BORDER. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE, THE U.S. BORDER PATROL HAD TO 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,912 RECORD FOR THIS SECTION OF THE TEXAS BORDER. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE, THE U.S. BORDER PATROL HAD TO 69 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:06,000 TRANSFORM SHELBY PARK INTO AN OPEN AIR HOLDING CENTER. WEEKS LATER, ONCE THE SURGE DIED DOWN, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,000 TRANSFORM SHELBY PARK INTO AN OPEN AIR HOLDING CENTER. WEEKS LATER, ONCE THE SURGE DIED DOWN, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,753 TRANSFORM SHELBY PARK INTO AN OPEN AIR HOLDING CENTER. WEEKS LATER, ONCE THE SURGE DIED DOWN, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED 72 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:18,000 HIS TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD TO BLOCK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BORDER PATROL FROM ENTERING THE PARK WITHOUT PERMISSION. 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,026 HIS TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD TO BLOCK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BORDER PATROL FROM ENTERING THE PARK WITHOUT PERMISSION. 74 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:24,000 GOVERNOR ABBOTT ARGUED THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD FAILED TO FULFILL ITS OBLIGATION TO THE STATES AND IN THAT, SOME HEARD 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,367 GOVERNOR ABBOTT ARGUED THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD FAILED TO FULFILL ITS OBLIGATION TO THE STATES AND IN THAT, SOME HEARD 76 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:30,000 ECHOS OF TEXAS' HISTORY OF REBELLION AND THREATS OF SECESSION. >> I CAN'T BELIEVE, GOVERNOR, 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,073 ECHOS OF TEXAS' HISTORY OF REBELLION AND THREATS OF SECESSION. >> I CAN'T BELIEVE, GOVERNOR, 78 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,000 I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TEXAS HAS 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,344 I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TEXAS HAS 80 00:04:38,411 --> 00:04:42,000 THE RIGHT TO SECEDE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? >> THOSE ARE FALSE NARRATIVES. 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,782 THE RIGHT TO SECEDE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? >> THOSE ARE FALSE NARRATIVES. 82 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:48,000 WHAT TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO, AND THAT'S TO ENFORCE THE LAW. >> YOU HEARD THE ARGUMENT 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,088 WHAT TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO, AND THAT'S TO ENFORCE THE LAW. >> YOU HEARD THE ARGUMENT 84 00:04:49,155 --> 00:04:54,000 AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE DOING OUT HERE. EACH STATE CAN'T CONTROL ITS OWN BORDER POLICY. 85 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,260 AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE DOING OUT HERE. EACH STATE CAN'T CONTROL ITS OWN BORDER POLICY. 86 00:04:54,327 --> 00:04:58,097 YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLETELY CHAOTIC SYSTEM. THAT'S THE JOB OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 87 00:04:58,164 --> 00:05:00,000 >> WE'RE NOT IMPOSING A TEXAS BORDER POLICY, TEXAS VERY SIMPLY IS ENFORCING THE LAWS THAT ARE THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,505 >> WE'RE NOT IMPOSING A TEXAS BORDER POLICY, TEXAS VERY SIMPLY IS ENFORCING THE LAWS THAT ARE THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES 89 00:05:05,571 --> 00:05:06,000 CONGRESS. >> WHAT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WHAT TO DO? 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,376 CONGRESS. >> WHAT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WHAT TO DO? 91 00:05:10,443 --> 00:05:12,000 >> FOR ONE, AS GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL INGRESS AND EGRESS TO ANY LAND IN THE STATE 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,983 >> FOR ONE, AS GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL INGRESS AND EGRESS TO ANY LAND IN THE STATE 93 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:18,000 OF TEXAS. FOR ANOTHER, THIS LAND WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW WAS USED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FURTHER 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,288 OF TEXAS. FOR ANOTHER, THIS LAND WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW WAS USED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FURTHER 95 00:05:22,355 --> 00:05:24,000 ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. AND I WANTED TO PUT A STOP TO IT. >> WE WENT BEHIND THE GUARDED 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,460 ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. AND I WANTED TO PUT A STOP TO IT. >> WE WENT BEHIND THE GUARDED 97 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:30,000 GATS OF SHELBY PARK IN JANUARY, SHORTLY AFTER GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAD TAKEN CONTROL. >> THIS IS CALLED AN ANTI-CLIMB 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,801 GATS OF SHELBY PARK IN JANUARY, SHORTLY AFTER GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAD TAKEN CONTROL. >> THIS IS CALLED AN ANTI-CLIMB 99 00:05:34,867 --> 00:05:36,000 BARRIER. >> Reporter: TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY SHOWED US WHERE STATE NATIONAL GUARDSMEN WERE 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000 BARRIER. >> Reporter: TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY SHOWED US WHERE STATE NATIONAL GUARDSMEN WERE 101 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,275 BARRIER. >> Reporter: TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY SHOWED US WHERE STATE NATIONAL GUARDSMEN WERE 102 00:05:42,341 --> 00:05:48,000 INSTALLING FRESH RAZOR WIRE BARRIERS ALONG THE RIVER. >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND AT THE HEART OF THIS WHY TEXAS HAS A 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,082 INSTALLING FRESH RAZOR WIRE BARRIERS ALONG THE RIVER. >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND AT THE HEART OF THIS WHY TEXAS HAS A 104 00:05:49,148 --> 00:05:54,000 PROBLEM WITH THE BORDER PATROL COMING IN TO PROCESS MIGRANTS IN THIS PARK? >> THE ISSUE IS TRYING TO 105 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,421 PROBLEM WITH THE BORDER PATROL COMING IN TO PROCESS MIGRANTS IN THIS PARK? >> THE ISSUE IS TRYING TO 106 00:05:55,488 --> 00:06:00,000 PREVENT ANOTHER INFLUX, BECAUSE WHEN BORDER PATROL IS HERE, SETTING UP A PROCESSING CENTER, IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT, IT'S 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,594 PREVENT ANOTHER INFLUX, BECAUSE WHEN BORDER PATROL IS HERE, SETTING UP A PROCESSING CENTER, IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT, IT'S 108 00:06:01,661 --> 00:06:06,000 GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE MIGRANTS TO CROSS THE RIVER, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO. >> Reporter: IT'S ONE OF MANY 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,799 GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE MIGRANTS TO CROSS THE RIVER, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO. >> Reporter: IT'S ONE OF MANY 110 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:12,000 SPOTS ALONG THE TEXAS BORDER WHERE COILS OF SHARP WIRE HAVE BEEN GOING UP EVER SINCE GOVERNOR ABBOTT LAUNCHED 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,306 SPOTS ALONG THE TEXAS BORDER WHERE COILS OF SHARP WIRE HAVE BEEN GOING UP EVER SINCE GOVERNOR ABBOTT LAUNCHED 112 00:06:13,372 --> 00:06:18,000 OPERATION LONE STAR IN 2021. SINCE THEN, THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND DETAINED ON TRESPASSING CHARGES. 113 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,281 OPERATION LONE STAR IN 2021. SINCE THEN, THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND DETAINED ON TRESPASSING CHARGES. 114 00:06:22,348 --> 00:06:24,000 >> HEY, STOP! >> Reporter: STATE TROOPERS HAVE CRACKED DOWN ON HUMAN SMUGGLING RINGS. 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,587 >> HEY, STOP! >> Reporter: STATE TROOPERS HAVE CRACKED DOWN ON HUMAN SMUGGLING RINGS. 116 00:06:27,653 --> 00:06:30,000 AND THE STATE HAS SPENT MORE THAN $150 MILLION SENDING MIGRANTS ON BUSES TO CITIES LIKE NEW YORK AND CHICAGO, TURNING 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,061 AND THE STATE HAS SPENT MORE THAN $150 MILLION SENDING MIGRANTS ON BUSES TO CITIES LIKE NEW YORK AND CHICAGO, TURNING 118 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:36,000 THE TROUBLE AT THE BORDER INTO A POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL HEADACHE FOR DEMOCRATIC MAYORS. ONCE THE SITE OF BALL GAMES AND 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,000 THE TROUBLE AT THE BORDER INTO A POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL HEADACHE FOR DEMOCRATIC MAYORS. ONCE THE SITE OF BALL GAMES AND 120 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,370 THE TROUBLE AT THE BORDER INTO A POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL HEADACHE FOR DEMOCRATIC MAYORS. ONCE THE SITE OF BALL GAMES AND 121 00:06:44,437 --> 00:06:48,000 FLEE MARKETS, SHELBY PARK IS NOW GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S MODEL OF WHAT THE TEXAS BORDER CAN BE. >> WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,643 FLEE MARKETS, SHELBY PARK IS NOW GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S MODEL OF WHAT THE TEXAS BORDER CAN BE. >> WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE 123 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:54,000 USED TO BE 3,000 OR 4,000 PEOPLE CROSSING ILLEGALLY A DAY. FOR THE PAST THREE DAYS, THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF JUST THREE PEOPLE 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,318 USED TO BE 3,000 OR 4,000 PEOPLE CROSSING ILLEGALLY A DAY. FOR THE PAST THREE DAYS, THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF JUST THREE PEOPLE 125 00:06:59,385 --> 00:07:00,000 CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. >> YOU DON'T JUST PLANT A FLAG JUST TO PLANT A FLAG. IT'S GOT TO BE STRATEGIC AND 126 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,992 CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. >> YOU DON'T JUST PLANT A FLAG JUST TO PLANT A FLAG. IT'S GOT TO BE STRATEGIC AND 127 00:07:06,058 --> 00:07:11,364 MAKE SENSE. >> Reporter: RAUL ORTIZ SERVED AS CHIEF OF THE U.S. BORDER PATROL UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN AND 128 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:12,000 DEPUTY CHIEF UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE RETIRED LAST YEAR. >> WHEN AGENCIES ARE MAKING A 129 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 DEPUTY CHIEF UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE RETIRED LAST YEAR. >> WHEN AGENCIES ARE MAKING A 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,304 DEPUTY CHIEF UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE RETIRED LAST YEAR. >> WHEN AGENCIES ARE MAKING A 131 00:07:18,371 --> 00:07:24,000 DECISION, BASED UPON POLITICS OR WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GET MEDIA COVERAGE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL IN 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,178 DECISION, BASED UPON POLITICS OR WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GET MEDIA COVERAGE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL IN 133 00:07:25,244 --> 00:07:30,000 THIS TWO-MILE STRETCH, WLHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 200 MILES. >> Reporter: IN OUR INTERVIEW, HE CRITICIZED GRN ABBOTT FOR NOT 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,000 THIS TWO-MILE STRETCH, WLHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 200 MILES. >> Reporter: IN OUR INTERVIEW, HE CRITICIZED GRN ABBOTT FOR NOT 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,022 THIS TWO-MILE STRETCH, WLHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 200 MILES. >> Reporter: IN OUR INTERVIEW, HE CRITICIZED GRN ABBOTT FOR NOT 136 00:07:36,088 --> 00:07:40,426 COOPERATING WITH BORDER PATROL AND PLAYING POLITICS WITH IMMIGRATION, BUT ALSO EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH PRESIDENT 137 00:07:40,493 --> 00:07:42,000 BIDEN. >> I'VE NEVER HAD ONE CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT OR THE VICE PRESIDENT, FOR THAT 138 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,930 BIDEN. >> I'VE NEVER HAD ONE CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT OR THE VICE PRESIDENT, FOR THAT 139 00:07:43,996 --> 00:07:48,000 MATTER, AND SO I WAS THE CHIEF OF THE BORDER PATROL. I COMMANDED 21,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S A PROBLEM. 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,036 MATTER, AND SO I WAS THE CHIEF OF THE BORDER PATROL. I COMMANDED 21,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S A PROBLEM. 141 00:07:50,102 --> 00:07:54,000 >> I JUST SAW 50 PEOPLE TODAY WHO HAD JUST CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. SO, SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING. 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,511 >> I JUST SAW 50 PEOPLE TODAY WHO HAD JUST CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. SO, SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING. 143 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:00,000 >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA, MEXICO, THAT THOSE REGIONS UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU PAY A 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:06,000 >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA, MEXICO, THAT THOSE REGIONS UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU PAY A 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,620 >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA, MEXICO, THAT THOSE REGIONS UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU PAY A 146 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:12,000 SMUGGLER AND YOU CROSS IN BETWEEN THE PORTS OF ENTRY AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A LEGITIMATE CLAIM TO SOME SORT OF ASYLUM 147 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,660 SMUGGLER AND YOU CROSS IN BETWEEN THE PORTS OF ENTRY AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A LEGITIMATE CLAIM TO SOME SORT OF ASYLUM 148 00:08:14,727 --> 00:08:18,000 BENEFIT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENT BACK. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS SENT MIXED MESSAGES TO 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,899 BENEFIT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SENT BACK. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS SENT MIXED MESSAGES TO 150 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:24,000 MIGRANTS? >> YEAH, MOST DEFINITELY. >> Reporter: WE SPOKE WITH ORTIZ IN AN AREA JUST FOUR MILES SOUTH 151 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,438 MIGRANTS? >> YEAH, MOST DEFINITELY. >> Reporter: WE SPOKE WITH ORTIZ IN AN AREA JUST FOUR MILES SOUTH 152 00:08:25,504 --> 00:08:30,000 OF SHELBY PARK. THE GROUND WAS LITTERED WITH WET CLOTHES THAT MIGRANTS HAD CHANGED OUT OF AND LEFT BEHIND 153 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,244 OF SHELBY PARK. THE GROUND WAS LITTERED WITH WET CLOTHES THAT MIGRANTS HAD CHANGED OUT OF AND LEFT BEHIND 154 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:36,000 AFTER CROSSING THE RIVER. >> DOES ALL OF THIS TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL CROSSING THIS RIVER RIGHT HERE? 155 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,285 AFTER CROSSING THE RIVER. >> DOES ALL OF THIS TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL CROSSING THIS RIVER RIGHT HERE? 156 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:42,000 >> OH, YEAH, THE GUIDES OR THE SMUGGLERS WILL BRING THE MIGRANTS OVER. THIS IS ALL VERY CLALCULATED BY 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,000 >> OH, YEAH, THE GUIDES OR THE SMUGGLERS WILL BRING THE MIGRANTS OVER. THIS IS ALL VERY CLALCULATED BY 158 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,060 >> OH, YEAH, THE GUIDES OR THE SMUGGLERS WILL BRING THE MIGRANTS OVER. THIS IS ALL VERY CLALCULATED BY 159 00:08:48,127 --> 00:08:54,000 THE CARTELS THAT CONTROL THESE AREAS ON THE MEXICAN SIDE. >> ABOUT SEVEN MILES NORTH OF SHELBY PARK, WE CAME UPON THIS 160 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,333 THE CARTELS THAT CONTROL THESE AREAS ON THE MEXICAN SIDE. >> ABOUT SEVEN MILES NORTH OF SHELBY PARK, WE CAME UPON THIS 161 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,000 GROUP OF MIGRANTS THAT JUST CROSSED THE RIO GRANDE AND WERE BEING PICKED UP BY BORDER PATROL. 162 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,740 GROUP OF MIGRANTS THAT JUST CROSSED THE RIO GRANDE AND WERE BEING PICKED UP BY BORDER PATROL. 163 00:09:00,806 --> 00:09:06,000 THIS MOTHER AND HER TWO SONS TOOK BUSES FROM EL SALVADOR. SHE TOLD US THE SOLDIERS ON THE U.S. SIDE OF THE BORDER WEREN'T 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,813 THIS MOTHER AND HER TWO SONS TOOK BUSES FROM EL SALVADOR. SHE TOLD US THE SOLDIERS ON THE U.S. SIDE OF THE BORDER WEREN'T 165 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,000 MUCH OF A DETERRENT. SHE FEARED THE CARTELS IN MEXICO MORE. SOMETIMES THEY KIDNAP YOU AND 166 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,721 MUCH OF A DETERRENT. SHE FEARED THE CARTELS IN MEXICO MORE. SOMETIMES THEY KIDNAP YOU AND 167 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:18,000 EXPECT PAYMENT, SHE SAID. THE REALITY IS, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO FIND WAY TO GET IN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MANPOWER YOU 168 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,296 EXPECT PAYMENT, SHE SAID. THE REALITY IS, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO FIND WAY TO GET IN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MANPOWER YOU 169 00:09:23,362 --> 00:09:24,000 HAVE AND HOW MUCH WIRE YOU PUT UP. >> YEAH, BECAUSE IN TEXAS, ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE 170 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,467 HAVE AND HOW MUCH WIRE YOU PUT UP. >> YEAH, BECAUSE IN TEXAS, ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE 171 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:30,000 BARRICADING EVERY AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING UNTIL WE GET EVERY AREA TO HAVE LIKE THIS AREA IS RIGHT NOW. 172 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,541 BARRICADING EVERY AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING UNTIL WE GET EVERY AREA TO HAVE LIKE THIS AREA IS RIGHT NOW. 173 00:09:35,608 --> 00:09:36,000 >> TEXAS IS GOING TO BARRICADE EVERY AREA. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> EVERY AREA WHERE THE CARTELS 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,080 >> TEXAS IS GOING TO BARRICADE EVERY AREA. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> EVERY AREA WHERE THE CARTELS 175 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:42,000 USE AS A CROSSING, WE INTEND TO BE BARRICADING. >> THE BORDER WILL LOOK LIKE A WAR ZONE. 176 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,285 USE AS A CROSSING, WE INTEND TO BE BARRICADING. >> THE BORDER WILL LOOK LIKE A WAR ZONE. 177 00:09:46,352 --> 00:09:48,000 >> IT IS A WAR ZONE. >> OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS CARRIED OUT 4 MILLION EXPULSIONS 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,792 >> IT IS A WAR ZONE. >> OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS CARRIED OUT 4 MILLION EXPULSIONS 179 00:09:52,858 --> 00:09:54,000 AND DEPORTATION, MORE THAN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. BUT IT HAS ALSO ALLOWED A RECORD 3 MILLION PEOPLE TO REMAIN IN 180 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,165 AND DEPORTATION, MORE THAN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. BUT IT HAS ALSO ALLOWED A RECORD 3 MILLION PEOPLE TO REMAIN IN 181 00:09:59,231 --> 00:10:00,000 THE COUNTRY FOR YEARS, WHILE THEIR IMMIGRATION CASES ARE HEARD. AND THE BORDER PATROL ESTIMATES 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,937 THE COUNTRY FOR YEARS, WHILE THEIR IMMIGRATION CASES ARE HEARD. AND THE BORDER PATROL ESTIMATES 183 00:10:05,004 --> 00:10:06,000 ANOTHER 1.6 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED THE PEOPLE ILLEGALLY WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT. THIS PAST WEEK, FORMER PRESIDENT 184 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,844 ANOTHER 1.6 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED THE PEOPLE ILLEGALLY WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT. THIS PAST WEEK, FORMER PRESIDENT 185 00:10:11,911 --> 00:10:12,000 TRUMP VISITED SHELBY PARK WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT. ON THE SAME DAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ALSO AT THE TEXAS BORDER IN 186 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,000 TRUMP VISITED SHELBY PARK WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT. ON THE SAME DAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ALSO AT THE TEXAS BORDER IN 187 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,752 TRUMP VISITED SHELBY PARK WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT. ON THE SAME DAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ALSO AT THE TEXAS BORDER IN 188 00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:24,000 BROWNSVILLE. >> INSTEAD OF PLAYING POLITICS WITH YOU, WHY DON'T WE JUST GET TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE? 189 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,457 BROWNSVILLE. >> INSTEAD OF PLAYING POLITICS WITH YOU, WHY DON'T WE JUST GET TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE? 190 00:10:24,523 --> 00:10:30,000 >> Reporter: PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYS IF REPUBLICANS WERE SERIOUS ABOUT SECURING THE BORDER, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE REJECTED A 191 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,062 >> Reporter: PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYS IF REPUBLICANS WERE SERIOUS ABOUT SECURING THE BORDER, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE REJECTED A 192 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:34,967 BIPARTISAN IMMIGRATION DEAL IN THE SENATE LAST MONTH, AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP OPPOSED IT. 193 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:36,000 THAT DEAL WOULD HAVE INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE BORDER PATROL AND REQUIRED THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEL ALL MIGRANTS CROSSING 194 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,000 THAT DEAL WOULD HAVE INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE BORDER PATROL AND REQUIRED THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEL ALL MIGRANTS CROSSING 195 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,242 THAT DEAL WOULD HAVE INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE BORDER PATROL AND REQUIRED THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEL ALL MIGRANTS CROSSING 196 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:48,000 ILLEGALLY DURING SURGES LIKE THE ONE AT SHELBY PARK IN DECEMBER. THE LATEST BATTLE BETWEEN TEXAS AND WASHINGTON CONCERNS A NEW 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,183 ILLEGALLY DURING SURGES LIKE THE ONE AT SHELBY PARK IN DECEMBER. THE LATEST BATTLE BETWEEN TEXAS AND WASHINGTON CONCERNS A NEW 198 00:10:51,250 --> 00:10:54,000 LAW THAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT SIGNED AUTHORIZING TEXAS' MORE THAN 2,700 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ARREST MIGRANTS FOR ILLEGALLY 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,324 LAW THAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT SIGNED AUTHORIZING TEXAS' MORE THAN 2,700 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ARREST MIGRANTS FOR ILLEGALLY 200 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:00,000 CROSSING THE BORDER. TEXAS JUDGES COULD THEN ORDER MIGRANTS TO RETURN TO MEXICO OR SERVE TIME, BYPASSING THE 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,000 CROSSING THE BORDER. TEXAS JUDGES COULD THEN ORDER MIGRANTS TO RETURN TO MEXICO OR SERVE TIME, BYPASSING THE 202 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,098 CROSSING THE BORDER. TEXAS JUDGES COULD THEN ORDER MIGRANTS TO RETURN TO MEXICO OR SERVE TIME, BYPASSING THE 203 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:11,871 FEDERAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM ENTIRELY. CRITICS OF THE LAW SAY IT IS SO BROADLY WRITTEN, IT FAILS TO 204 00:11:11,937 --> 00:11:12,000 DEFINE WHEN AUTHORITIES CAN STOP SOMEONE. WE ASKED LIEUTENANT ORLEVARES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY 205 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:18,000 DEFINE WHEN AUTHORITIES CAN STOP SOMEONE. WE ASKED LIEUTENANT ORLEVARES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY 206 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,480 DEFINE WHEN AUTHORITIES CAN STOP SOMEONE. WE ASKED LIEUTENANT ORLEVARES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY 207 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:24,000 OR DPS ABOUT THE CONCERN THAT IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR COULD BE SUBJECTED TO RACIAL PROFILING. 208 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,786 OR DPS ABOUT THE CONCERN THAT IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR COULD BE SUBJECTED TO RACIAL PROFILING. 209 00:11:26,852 --> 00:11:30,000 >> I CAN TELL YOU MY TROOPERS AND I COULD BE STOPPING CARS AND CHECKING IMMIGRATION STATUS, THEY'RE NOT. 210 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,726 >> I CAN TELL YOU MY TROOPERS AND I COULD BE STOPPING CARS AND CHECKING IMMIGRATION STATUS, THEY'RE NOT. 211 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:36,000 >> BUT THIS LAW IS NOT JUST WRITTEN FOR DPS. >> THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S A TEXAS LAW. 212 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,830 >> BUT THIS LAW IS NOT JUST WRITTEN FOR DPS. >> THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S A TEXAS LAW. 213 00:11:37,897 --> 00:11:42,000 >> SO THIS IS GOING TO BE CARRIED OUT FAR FROM THE BORDER. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> COULDN'T YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,369 >> SO THIS IS GOING TO BE CARRIED OUT FAR FROM THE BORDER. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> COULDN'T YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN 215 00:11:43,436 --> 00:11:47,740 IT? YOU'RE LATINA? COULDN'T I GET CAUGHT UP IN IT. >> THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 216 00:11:47,807 --> 00:11:48,000 YOU CAN'T GO INTERVIEW EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT CAR, ASK THEM FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS. BUT OF COURSE, YEAH, THERE COULD 217 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,578 YOU CAN'T GO INTERVIEW EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT CAR, ASK THEM FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS. BUT OF COURSE, YEAH, THERE COULD 218 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,000 BE SOME ISSUES WHERE MAYBE SOME OTHER AGENCY OUTSIDE OF A BORDER AREA COULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 219 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,384 BE SOME ISSUES WHERE MAYBE SOME OTHER AGENCY OUTSIDE OF A BORDER AREA COULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 220 00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:00,000 >> DOES THAT MAKE YOU NERVOUS? >> IT'S PROBABLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF AGENCIES HERE IN TEXAS OPERATE, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT 221 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,589 >> DOES THAT MAKE YOU NERVOUS? >> IT'S PROBABLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF AGENCIES HERE IN TEXAS OPERATE, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT 222 00:12:03,656 --> 00:12:06,000 EVERY CHIEF AT A POLICE AGENCY WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOME TYPE OF POLICY AND PROCEDURE TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THIS NEW LAW. 223 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,728 EVERY CHIEF AT A POLICE AGENCY WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOME TYPE OF POLICY AND PROCEDURE TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THIS NEW LAW. 224 00:12:09,795 --> 00:12:12,000 >> THIS PAST WEEK, A FEDERAL JUDGE TEMPORARILY STOPPED THE NEW LAW FROM TAKING EFFECT WHILE IT'S BEING CHALLENGED IN COURT. 225 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,670 >> THIS PAST WEEK, A FEDERAL JUDGE TEMPORARILY STOPPED THE NEW LAW FROM TAKING EFFECT WHILE IT'S BEING CHALLENGED IN COURT. 226 00:12:17,736 --> 00:12:18,000 THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION ARE SUING TEXAS, ARGUING THE LAW INTERFERES WITH THE 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,000 THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION ARE SUING TEXAS, ARGUING THE LAW INTERFERES WITH THE 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,977 THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION ARE SUING TEXAS, ARGUING THE LAW INTERFERES WITH THE 229 00:12:25,044 --> 00:12:30,000 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S AUTHORITY OVER IMMIGRATION. BUT GOVERNOR ABBOTT ARGUES, TEXAS IS BEING INVADED AND HAS 230 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,916 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S AUTHORITY OVER IMMIGRATION. BUT GOVERNOR ABBOTT ARGUES, TEXAS IS BEING INVADED AND HAS 231 00:12:30,983 --> 00:12:36,000 THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF. THAT IDEA HAS RESONATED WITH MILITIAS AND GROUPS OPPOSED TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 232 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,158 THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF. THAT IDEA HAS RESONATED WITH MILITIAS AND GROUPS OPPOSED TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 233 00:12:39,225 --> 00:12:42,000 SOME JOINED A CONVOY LAST MONTH AND DESCENDED ON THE EAGLE PASS AREA. >> EVERY ONE, I THINK, AGREES 234 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,798 SOME JOINED A CONVOY LAST MONTH AND DESCENDED ON THE EAGLE PASS AREA. >> EVERY ONE, I THINK, AGREES 235 00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:48,000 THAT THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETELY BROKEN AND THERE'S A LOT OF BLAME TO GO AROUND. 236 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,769 THAT THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETELY BROKEN AND THERE'S A LOT OF BLAME TO GO AROUND. 237 00:12:50,836 --> 00:12:54,000 BUT DO YOU REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT INVASION IS THE RIGHT WORD TO BE USING HERE? >> INVASION IS THE WORD THAT'S 238 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,512 BUT DO YOU REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT INVASION IS THE RIGHT WORD TO BE USING HERE? >> INVASION IS THE WORD THAT'S 239 00:12:59,578 --> 00:13:00,000 USED IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. INVASION OR IMMINENT DANGER. I USE THEM BOTH. 240 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,417 USED IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. INVASION OR IMMINENT DANGER. I USE THEM BOTH. 241 00:13:05,484 --> 00:13:06,000 AND WE ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE DRUG CARTELS DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. BECAUSE OF THE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN 242 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,000 AND WE ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE DRUG CARTELS DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. BECAUSE OF THE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN 243 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,559 AND WE ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE DRUG CARTELS DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. BECAUSE OF THE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN 244 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:18,000 TERRORISTS WHO CROSS EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> SO THE CONVOYS AND MILITIA HAVE HEARD THE LANGUAGE AND 245 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,064 TERRORISTS WHO CROSS EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> SO THE CONVOYS AND MILITIA HAVE HEARD THE LANGUAGE AND 246 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:24,000 THEY'VE STARTED TO COME TO THE POINT THAT MIGRANTS HAVE HAD TO BE RELOCATED FROM SOME LOCATIONS FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. 247 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,772 THEY'VE STARTED TO COME TO THE POINT THAT MIGRANTS HAVE HAD TO BE RELOCATED FROM SOME LOCATIONS FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. 248 00:13:26,839 --> 00:13:30,000 ARE YOU NOT CONCERNED ABOUT VIOLENCE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF LANGUAGE LIKE THE WORD "INVASION"? 249 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,810 ARE YOU NOT CONCERNED ABOUT VIOLENCE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF LANGUAGE LIKE THE WORD "INVASION"? 250 00:13:31,877 --> 00:13:36,000 >> THERE'S NO WORD THAT WOULD SPUR VIOLENCE. BUT I'LL BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. WE DON'T WANT VIOLENCE OF ANY 251 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,884 >> THERE'S NO WORD THAT WOULD SPUR VIOLENCE. BUT I'LL BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. WE DON'T WANT VIOLENCE OF ANY 252 00:13:38,951 --> 00:13:42,000 TYPE. >> HOW DOES THIS END? >> IT ENDS VERY SIMPLY, AND THAT'S WITH A PRESIDENT OF THE 253 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,888 TYPE. >> HOW DOES THIS END? >> IT ENDS VERY SIMPLY, AND THAT'S WITH A PRESIDENT OF THE 254 00:13:42,955 --> 00:13:48,000 UNITED STATES WHO WILL ACTUALLY FULFILL HIS OATH OF OFFICE AND ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THAT 255 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,395 UNITED STATES WHO WILL ACTUALLY FULFILL HIS OATH OF OFFICE AND ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THAT 256 00:13:49,461 --> 00:13:52,932 MEANS DENYING ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO OUR COUNTRY. >> DO YOU WANT TO BE TRUMP'S RUNNING MATE? 257 00:13:52,998 --> 00:13:54,000 >> NO. >> WHAT IF HE ASKS YOU? >> LISTEN, I LOVE BEING GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. 258 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:00,000 >> NO. >> WHAT IF HE ASKS YOU? >> LISTEN, I LOVE BEING GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. 259 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,039 >> NO. >> WHAT IF HE ASKS YOU? >> LISTEN, I LOVE BEING GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. 260 00:14:00,105 --> 00:14:06,000 I CAN BEST AID HIM IN MY ROLE BY BEING A GREAT GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. >> Reporter: SO FAR, THE GOVERNOR HAS COMMITTED MORE THAN 261 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,645 I CAN BEST AID HIM IN MY ROLE BY BEING A GREAT GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. >> Reporter: SO FAR, THE GOVERNOR HAS COMMITTED MORE THAN 262 00:14:06,712 --> 00:14:12,000 $11 BILLION TO OPERATION LONE STAR. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ENTERING 263 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,586 $11 BILLION TO OPERATION LONE STAR. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ENTERING 264 00:14:13,652 --> 00:14:18,000 TEXAS ILLEGALLY HAS DROPPED WHILE RISING IN OTHER BORDER STATES. ALABAMA BOTTOM 265 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,660 TEXAS ILLEGALLY HAS DROPPED WHILE RISING IN OTHER BORDER STATES. ALABAMA BOTTOM 266 00:14:21,727 --> 00:14:24,000 ABBOTT'S CRITICS SAY THAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH OTHER FACTORS LIKE CRACKDOWNS ON IMMIGRATION IN PARTS OF MEXICO. 267 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,831 ABBOTT'S CRITICS SAY THAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH OTHER FACTORS LIKE CRACKDOWNS ON IMMIGRATION IN PARTS OF MEXICO. 268 00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:30,000 THERE IS STILL MORE THAN A MILLION ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS IN TEXAS EVERY YEAR. THERE ARE ALSO AT LEAST A DOZEN 269 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,000 THERE IS STILL MORE THAN A MILLION ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS IN TEXAS EVERY YEAR. THERE ARE ALSO AT LEAST A DOZEN 270 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,008 THERE IS STILL MORE THAN A MILLION ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS IN TEXAS EVERY YEAR. THERE ARE ALSO AT LEAST A DOZEN 271 00:14:36,075 --> 00:14:41,747 LAWSUITS BEING FOUGHT OVER TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER IMMIGRATION ISSUES. ALL OF THAT WORRIES CHIEF RAUL 272 00:14:41,814 --> 00:14:42,000 ORTIZ. >> THE NATIONAL GUARDSMEN, EVEN TO SOME DEGREE THE BORDER PATROL AGENTS HAVE BECOME PAWNS IN THIS 273 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,018 ORTIZ. >> THE NATIONAL GUARDSMEN, EVEN TO SOME DEGREE THE BORDER PATROL AGENTS HAVE BECOME PAWNS IN THIS 274 00:14:46,085 --> 00:14:48,000 POLITICAL GAME BETWEEN TWO SIDES. >> WHO'S WINNING? >>, THE CARTELS, THE CRIMINAL 275 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,057 POLITICAL GAME BETWEEN TWO SIDES. >> WHO'S WINNING? >>, THE CARTELS, THE CRIMINAL 276 00:14:52,124 --> 00:14:54,000 ORGANIZATIONS, THAT'S WHO'S WINNING IN ALL OF THIS. THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND REAPING ALL THE BENEFITS, WHILE THEY 277 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,428 ORGANIZATIONS, THAT'S WHO'S WINNING IN ALL OF THIS. THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND REAPING ALL THE BENEFITS, WHILE THEY 278 00:14:56,495 --> 00:15:00,000 WATCH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WASHINGTON DX GO AT IT. >> PATROLLING THE BORDER WITH A TEXAS STATE TROOPER. 279 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000 WATCH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WASHINGTON DX GO AT IT. >> PATROLLING THE BORDER WITH A TEXAS STATE TROOPER. 280 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,806 WATCH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WASHINGTON DX GO AT IT. >> PATROLLING THE BORDER WITH A TEXAS STATE TROOPER. 281 00:15:07,873 --> 00:15:12,000 >> IT'S JUST SUCH A CRISIS RIGHT NOW AND WE FEEL SO >>> WITH ELECTION SEASON UPON US, THE FORCES OF POLITICS ARE 282 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:18,000 >> IT'S JUST SUCH A CRISIS RIGHT NOW AND WE FEEL SO >>> WITH ELECTION SEASON UPON US, THE FORCES OF POLITICS ARE 283 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,855 >> IT'S JUST SUCH A CRISIS RIGHT NOW AND WE FEEL SO >>> WITH ELECTION SEASON UPON US, THE FORCES OF POLITICS ARE 284 00:15:22,921 --> 00:15:24,000 PULLING US APART. AND AMONG THE SHARPEST BATTLES RECENTLY IS A CAMPAIGN TO BAN CERTAIN BOOKS FROM PUBLIC 285 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:30,000 PULLING US APART. AND AMONG THE SHARPEST BATTLES RECENTLY IS A CAMPAIGN TO BAN CERTAIN BOOKS FROM PUBLIC 286 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,830 PULLING US APART. AND AMONG THE SHARPEST BATTLES RECENTLY IS A CAMPAIGN TO BAN CERTAIN BOOKS FROM PUBLIC 287 00:15:31,897 --> 00:15:36,000 SCHOOLS. THERE WERE MORE THAN 3,000 BOOK BANS IN SCHOOLS LAST YEAR, A THOUSAND MORE THAN THE YEAR 288 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,737 SCHOOLS. THERE WERE MORE THAN 3,000 BOOK BANS IN SCHOOLS LAST YEAR, A THOUSAND MORE THAN THE YEAR 289 00:15:38,804 --> 00:15:42,000 BEFORE. THAT RISE IS INSPIRED IN PART BY MOMS FOR LIBERTY, A FLORIDA-BASED CONSERVATIVE GROUP 290 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,244 BEFORE. THAT RISE IS INSPIRED IN PART BY MOMS FOR LIBERTY, A FLORIDA-BASED CONSERVATIVE GROUP 291 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:48,000 THAT SAYS THAT IT IS FIGHTING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA. YOU MIGHT EXPECT A SYMPATHETIC EAR IN BUFORD, SOUTH CAROLINA. 292 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,000 THAT SAYS THAT IT IS FIGHTING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA. YOU MIGHT EXPECT A SYMPATHETIC EAR IN BUFORD, SOUTH CAROLINA. 293 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,421 THAT SAYS THAT IT IS FIGHTING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA. YOU MIGHT EXPECT A SYMPATHETIC EAR IN BUFORD, SOUTH CAROLINA. 294 00:15:55,487 --> 00:16:00,000 THE COUNTY VOTES REPUBLICAN AND IS HOME TO MANY VETERANS WHO DID FIGHT FOR AMERICA, BUT WHEN TWO PEOPLE DEMANDED THE BANNING OF 295 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,663 THE COUNTY VOTES REPUBLICAN AND IS HOME TO MANY VETERANS WHO DID FIGHT FOR AMERICA, BUT WHEN TWO PEOPLE DEMANDED THE BANNING OF 296 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:06,000 97 BOOKS, BUFORD FOUND ITSELF IN A BATTLE OVER THE TRUE MEANING OF LIBERTY. BUFORD HAS A HISTORY IN 297 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:12,000 97 BOOKS, BUFORD FOUND ITSELF IN A BATTLE OVER THE TRUE MEANING OF LIBERTY. BUFORD HAS A HISTORY IN 298 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,041 97 BOOKS, BUFORD FOUND ITSELF IN A BATTLE OVER THE TRUE MEANING OF LIBERTY. BUFORD HAS A HISTORY IN 299 00:16:16,108 --> 00:16:18,000 LITERATURE AND LEARNING. IT'S THE HOMETOWN OF THE LATE NOVEL ITSELF PRINCE CONRAD, AND IN 1862, IT OPENED AMONG THE 300 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,000 LITERATURE AND LEARNING. IT'S THE HOMETOWN OF THE LATE NOVEL ITSELF PRINCE CONRAD, AND IN 1862, IT OPENED AMONG THE 301 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,486 LITERATURE AND LEARNING. IT'S THE HOMETOWN OF THE LATE NOVEL ITSELF PRINCE CONRAD, AND IN 1862, IT OPENED AMONG THE 302 00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:30,000 FIRST SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH FOR FORMER SLAVES. TODAY, BUFORD COUNTY HAS 21,000 STUDENTS AND DICK GEIER IS VICE 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,000 FIRST SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH FOR FORMER SLAVES. TODAY, BUFORD COUNTY HAS 21,000 STUDENTS AND DICK GEIER IS VICE 304 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,000 FIRST SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH FOR FORMER SLAVES. TODAY, BUFORD COUNTY HAS 21,000 STUDENTS AND DICK GEIER IS VICE 305 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,402 FIRST SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH FOR FORMER SLAVES. TODAY, BUFORD COUNTY HAS 21,000 STUDENTS AND DICK GEIER IS VICE 306 00:16:43,469 --> 00:16:48,000 PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. >> WE HAVE TREMENDOUS WEALTH IN HILTON HEAD AND OTHER GATED COMMUNITIES HERE, AND WE HAVE 307 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,174 PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. >> WE HAVE TREMENDOUS WEALTH IN HILTON HEAD AND OTHER GATED COMMUNITIES HERE, AND WE HAVE 308 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:53,946 TREMENDOUS POVERTY. HALF OF OUR STUDENTS ARE GETTING FREE AND REDUCED LUNCHES, BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS ARE 309 00:16:54,012 --> 00:17:00,000 QUALIFIED AS BEING IN POVERTY. >> GEIER IS A RETIRED ARMY COLONEL, A REPUBLICAN, WHO FOCUSED ON IMPROVING MATH AND 310 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,822 QUALIFIED AS BEING IN POVERTY. >> GEIER IS A RETIRED ARMY COLONEL, A REPUBLICAN, WHO FOCUSED ON IMPROVING MATH AND 311 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:06,000 READING UNTIL 2022. >> WHAT WAS THE VERY FIRST NOTION THAT YOU HAD A STORM COMING? 312 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,000 READING UNTIL 2022. >> WHAT WAS THE VERY FIRST NOTION THAT YOU HAD A STORM COMING? 313 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,400 READING UNTIL 2022. >> WHAT WAS THE VERY FIRST NOTION THAT YOU HAD A STORM COMING? 314 00:17:14,466 --> 00:17:18,000 >> WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN, SAYING THAT THESE, THE 97 BOOKS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT ONLINE, THAT SHOULD BE BANNED IN 315 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 >> WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN, SAYING THAT THESE, THE 97 BOOKS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT ONLINE, THAT SHOULD BE BANNED IN 316 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,079 >> WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN, SAYING THAT THESE, THE 97 BOOKS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT ONLINE, THAT SHOULD BE BANNED IN 317 00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:30,000 A SCHOOL, HOW MANY OF THOSE BOOKS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SCHOOL? SO WE CHECKED, WE HAD VIRTUALLY 318 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,919 A SCHOOL, HOW MANY OF THOSE BOOKS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SCHOOL? SO WE CHECKED, WE HAD VIRTUALLY 319 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:36,000 ALL OF THOSE BOOKS IN THE SCHOOL. >> THEY'RE MOSTLY YOUNG ADULT NOVELS WITH MINORITY, GAY, 320 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,859 ALL OF THOSE BOOKS IN THE SCHOOL. >> THEY'RE MOSTLY YOUNG ADULT NOVELS WITH MINORITY, GAY, 321 00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:42,000 LESBIAN, OR TRANSGENDER CHARACTERS. SOME DEPICT SEX AND VIOLENCE. MOST WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL 322 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:48,000 LESBIAN, OR TRANSGENDER CHARACTERS. SOME DEPICT SEX AND VIOLENCE. MOST WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL 323 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,567 LESBIAN, OR TRANSGENDER CHARACTERS. SOME DEPICT SEX AND VIOLENCE. MOST WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL 324 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:54,000 LIBRARIES, FOUR WERE IN CLASSROOM CURRICULA. REASONABLE PEOPLE DISAGREE ABOUT BOOKS, AND THAT'S WHY BEAUFORT 325 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,143 LIBRARIES, FOUR WERE IN CLASSROOM CURRICULA. REASONABLE PEOPLE DISAGREE ABOUT BOOKS, AND THAT'S WHY BEAUFORT 326 00:17:58,210 --> 00:18:00,000 ALREADY GAVE THE LAST WORD TO PARENTS. KAREN GARRIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARIAN AFTER 27 YEARS IN THE 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,883 ALREADY GAVE THE LAST WORD TO PARENTS. KAREN GARRIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARIAN AFTER 27 YEARS IN THE 328 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:06,000 NAVY. >> SO THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE THAT IT'S A CONVERSATION BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE PARENT. 329 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,321 NAVY. >> SO THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE THAT IT'S A CONVERSATION BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE PARENT. 330 00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:12,000 AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE BOOK, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY THAT THEIR CHILD CAN'T CHECK THAT BOOK OUT. 331 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,626 AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE BOOK, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY THAT THEIR CHILD CAN'T CHECK THAT BOOK OUT. 332 00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:18,000 >> AND HOW OFTEN DOES A PARENT DO THAT? >> I HAVE NEVER HAD A PARENT COME AND COMPLAIN. 333 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,064 >> AND HOW OFTEN DOES A PARENT DO THAT? >> I HAVE NEVER HAD A PARENT COME AND COMPLAIN. 334 00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:24,000 >> NEVER? >> TO ME PERSONALLY ABOUT A BOOK, NO. >> Reporter: GARRIS ALSO POINTED 335 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,136 >> NEVER? >> TO ME PERSONALLY ABOUT A BOOK, NO. >> Reporter: GARRIS ALSO POINTED 336 00:18:24,203 --> 00:18:30,000 TO THIS OPT-OUT FORM. "DO NOT ALLOW MY CHILD TO CHECK OUT ANY SCHOOL LIBRARY MATERIALS WITHOUT MY APPROVAL." 337 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,878 TO THIS OPT-OUT FORM. "DO NOT ALLOW MY CHILD TO CHECK OUT ANY SCHOOL LIBRARY MATERIALS WITHOUT MY APPROVAL." 338 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:36,000 >> PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO READ. 339 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,884 >> PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO READ. 340 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:42,000 NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS PARENTS THAT WANT TO DETERMINE WHAT OTHER PARENTS' 341 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,226 NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT WHAT WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS PARENTS THAT WANT TO DETERMINE WHAT OTHER PARENTS' 342 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:48,000 RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >> PLEASE BE SEATED. >> Reporter: THE BOARD WANTED TO 343 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:54,000 RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >> PLEASE BE SEATED. >> Reporter: THE BOARD WANTED TO 344 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,434 RIGHTS ARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO READ WHAT THEY WANT. >> PLEASE BE SEATED. >> Reporter: THE BOARD WANTED TO 345 00:18:55,501 --> 00:19:00,000 FOLLOW ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES, BUT A FEW ACTIVISTS, AGITATED BY CONSPIRACY THEORIES, THREATENED LIBRARIANS AND BOARD MEMBERS, 346 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,509 FOLLOW ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES, BUT A FEW ACTIVISTS, AGITATED BY CONSPIRACY THEORIES, THREATENED LIBRARIANS AND BOARD MEMBERS, 347 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:06,000 CALLING THEM GROOMERS, EXTREME RIGHT-WING HATE SPEECH, MEANT TO BRAND OPPONENTS AS MOLESTERS GROOMING CHILDREN FOR SEX. 348 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,000 CALLING THEM GROOMERS, EXTREME RIGHT-WING HATE SPEECH, MEANT TO BRAND OPPONENTS AS MOLESTERS GROOMING CHILDREN FOR SEX. 349 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,784 CALLING THEM GROOMERS, EXTREME RIGHT-WING HATE SPEECH, MEANT TO BRAND OPPONENTS AS MOLESTERS GROOMING CHILDREN FOR SEX. 350 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:18,000 >> WE'VE HAD A PARENT COME IN AND TELL A LIBRARIAN THAT YOU ARE VIOLATING A STATE STATUTE BY PROVIDING PORNOGRAPHY TO A 351 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,000 >> WE'VE HAD A PARENT COME IN AND TELL A LIBRARIAN THAT YOU ARE VIOLATING A STATE STATUTE BY PROVIDING PORNOGRAPHY TO A 352 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,632 >> WE'VE HAD A PARENT COME IN AND TELL A LIBRARIAN THAT YOU ARE VIOLATING A STATE STATUTE BY PROVIDING PORNOGRAPHY TO A 353 00:19:26,698 --> 00:19:30,000 MINOR. I'M GOING TO THE SHERIFF -- I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU ARRESTED. AND STORM OUT. 354 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,838 MINOR. I'M GOING TO THE SHERIFF -- I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU ARRESTED. AND STORM OUT. 355 00:19:32,905 --> 00:19:36,000 NOW, THAT'S NOT JUST HAPPENED ONCE, THAT'S HAPPENED MULTITIMES MULTIMULTIPLE TIMES, AT MULTIPLE SCHOOLS. 356 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,380 NOW, THAT'S NOT JUST HAPPENED ONCE, THAT'S HAPPENED MULTITIMES MULTIMULTIPLE TIMES, AT MULTIPLE SCHOOLS. 357 00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:42,000 THE SHERIFF SAID "NO," THE SOLICITOR SAID "NO," I'M GOING TO THE FBI. >> SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT FRANK 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,886 THE SHERIFF SAID "NO," THE SOLICITOR SAID "NO," I'M GOING TO THE FBI. >> SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT FRANK 359 00:19:47,953 --> 00:19:48,000 RODRIGUEZ FEARED VIOLENCE, SO HE PULLED THE BOOKS. >> FROM SOMEONE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, IT'S ALMOST OBVIOUS, THAT 360 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:54,000 RODRIGUEZ FEARED VIOLENCE, SO HE PULLED THE BOOKS. >> FROM SOMEONE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, IT'S ALMOST OBVIOUS, THAT 361 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,693 RODRIGUEZ FEARED VIOLENCE, SO HE PULLED THE BOOKS. >> FROM SOMEONE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, IT'S ALMOST OBVIOUS, THAT 362 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:00,000 MOST OF THE BOOKS HADN'T BEEN READ PRIOR TO BEING CHALLENGED. THAT SOME OTHER SOURCE WAS USED TO GATHER THESE THINGS TOGETHER. 363 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,533 MOST OF THE BOOKS HADN'T BEEN READ PRIOR TO BEING CHALLENGED. THAT SOME OTHER SOURCE WAS USED TO GATHER THESE THINGS TOGETHER. 364 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,000 SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I KNEW WE WERE IN FOR A ROUGH ROAD. >> THAT ROAD BEGAN HERE. 365 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,575 SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I KNEW WE WERE IN FOR A ROUGH ROAD. >> THAT ROAD BEGAN HERE. 366 00:20:09,641 --> 00:20:12,000 A BOOK REVIEW WEBSITE CALLED BOOK LOOKS, FOUNDED TWO YEARS AGO BY A FLORIDA NURSE. SHE DECLINED AN INTERVIEW, BUT 367 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,000 A BOOK REVIEW WEBSITE CALLED BOOK LOOKS, FOUNDED TWO YEARS AGO BY A FLORIDA NURSE. SHE DECLINED AN INTERVIEW, BUT 368 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,483 A BOOK REVIEW WEBSITE CALLED BOOK LOOKS, FOUNDED TWO YEARS AGO BY A FLORIDA NURSE. SHE DECLINED AN INTERVIEW, BUT 369 00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:24,000 TOLD US HER BOOK REVIEWS ARE WRITTEN BY VOLUNTEERS, USING BOOK LOOK'S OWN STANDARDS. AND THIS IS WHERE BEAUFORT'S 370 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,060 TOLD US HER BOOK REVIEWS ARE WRITTEN BY VOLUNTEERS, USING BOOK LOOK'S OWN STANDARDS. AND THIS IS WHERE BEAUFORT'S 371 00:20:28,126 --> 00:20:30,000 EXPERIENCE BECOMES A NATIONAL STORY. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BOOK BANS ARE BEING DEMANDED BASED ON BOOK 372 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,000 EXPERIENCE BECOMES A NATIONAL STORY. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BOOK BANS ARE BEING DEMANDED BASED ON BOOK 373 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,768 EXPERIENCE BECOMES A NATIONAL STORY. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BOOK BANS ARE BEING DEMANDED BASED ON BOOK 374 00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:42,000 LOOK'S AMATEUR VOLUNTEER REEVE REVIEWS, OFTEN IN THE HANDS OF MOMS FOR LIBERTY. >> IF SOMEONE IS DEMONSTRABLY 375 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,310 LOOK'S AMATEUR VOLUNTEER REEVE REVIEWS, OFTEN IN THE HANDS OF MOMS FOR LIBERTY. >> IF SOMEONE IS DEMONSTRABLY 376 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:48,000 HARMING OUR CHILDREN, WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER TO FIGHT TO PROTECT THEM. >> Reporter: MOMS FOR LIBERTY 377 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,948 HARMING OUR CHILDREN, WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER TO FIGHT TO PROTECT THEM. >> Reporter: MOMS FOR LIBERTY 378 00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:54,000 HELD A NATIONAL CONVENTION LAST SUMMER, WHICH ATTRACTED MAJOR REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. 379 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,521 HELD A NATIONAL CONVENTION LAST SUMMER, WHICH ATTRACTED MAJOR REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. 380 00:20:56,588 --> 00:21:00,000 IT HAD BEEN ONLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE MOMS WAS FOUNDED AS A REACTION AGAINST COVID MANDATES. 381 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,463 IT HAD BEEN ONLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE MOMS WAS FOUNDED AS A REACTION AGAINST COVID MANDATES. 382 00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:06,000 ITS FOUNDERS INCLUDE TWO FLORIDA WOMEN WITH SCHOOL BOARD EXPERIENCE, TIFFANY JUSTICE AND TINA DUSKOVICH. 383 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,000 ITS FOUNDERS INCLUDE TWO FLORIDA WOMEN WITH SCHOOL BOARD EXPERIENCE, TIFFANY JUSTICE AND TINA DUSKOVICH. 384 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,871 ITS FOUNDERS INCLUDE TWO FLORIDA WOMEN WITH SCHOOL BOARD EXPERIENCE, TIFFANY JUSTICE AND TINA DUSKOVICH. 385 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:18,000 >> THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT TINA AND ARE DISRUPTING THE BALANCE OF POWER IN AMERICAN EDUCATION. 386 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,377 >> THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT TINA AND ARE DISRUPTING THE BALANCE OF POWER IN AMERICAN EDUCATION. 387 00:21:18,443 --> 00:21:24,000 OUR MOMS, OVER 100,000 MEMBERS, ACROSS THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE DISRUPTING THE BALANCE OF POWER IN PUBLIC 388 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,516 OUR MOMS, OVER 100,000 MEMBERS, ACROSS THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE DISRUPTING THE BALANCE OF POWER IN PUBLIC 389 00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:30,000 EDUCATION. FOR TOO LONG, UNIONS HAVE HAD AN UNDUE INFLUENCE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, 390 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,355 EDUCATION. FOR TOO LONG, UNIONS HAVE HAD AN UNDUE INFLUENCE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, 391 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:36,000 HAPPENING IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, AND WE SEE WHERE THAT HAS GOTTEN US. A SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS ITSELF 392 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,729 HAPPENING IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, AND WE SEE WHERE THAT HAS GOTTEN US. A SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS ITSELF 393 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:42,000 AND OFTENTIMES LEAVES THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS BEHIND. AND THAT HAS TO CHANGE. >> MOMS! 394 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,703 AND OFTENTIMES LEAVES THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS BEHIND. AND THAT HAS TO CHANGE. >> MOMS! 395 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:48,000 >> CONSERVATIVE, ANTI-TEACHER UNIONS, MOMS FOR LIBERTY IS PART OF THE PUSHBACK AGAINST THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION 396 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,244 >> CONSERVATIVE, ANTI-TEACHER UNIONS, MOMS FOR LIBERTY IS PART OF THE PUSHBACK AGAINST THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION 397 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:54,000 MOVEMENT. MOMS SUPPORTS NEW FLORIDA LAWS THAT LIMIT LESSONS ON RACE AND FORBID LESSONS ON SEXUAL 398 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:00,000 MOVEMENT. MOMS SUPPORTS NEW FLORIDA LAWS THAT LIMIT LESSONS ON RACE AND FORBID LESSONS ON SEXUAL 399 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,252 MOVEMENT. MOMS SUPPORTS NEW FLORIDA LAWS THAT LIMIT LESSONS ON RACE AND FORBID LESSONS ON SEXUAL 400 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:06,000 ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. >> WE LOVE TEACHERS. MY CHILDREN HAVE HAD THE BEST 401 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,324 ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. >> WE LOVE TEACHERS. MY CHILDREN HAVE HAD THE BEST 402 00:22:06,391 --> 00:22:10,195 TEACHERS. I'VE HAD THE GREATEST TEACHERS THAT HAVE INFLUENCED AND IMPACTED ME, BUT THERE ARE ROGUE 403 00:22:10,262 --> 00:22:12,000 TEACHERS IN AMERICA'S CLASSROOMS RIGHT NOW. >> ROGUE TEACHERS? >> TREEROGUE TEACHERS. 404 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,334 TEACHERS IN AMERICA'S CLASSROOMS RIGHT NOW. >> ROGUE TEACHERS? >> TREEROGUE TEACHERS. 405 00:22:16,401 --> 00:22:18,000 >> PARENTS SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO BE EDUCATED, NOT INDOCTRINATED INTO IDEOLOGY. >> WHAT IDEOLOGY ARE THEY BEING 406 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,000 >> PARENTS SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO BE EDUCATED, NOT INDOCTRINATED INTO IDEOLOGY. >> WHAT IDEOLOGY ARE THEY BEING 407 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,609 >> PARENTS SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO BE EDUCATED, NOT INDOCTRINATED INTO IDEOLOGY. >> WHAT IDEOLOGY ARE THEY BEING 408 00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:30,000 INDOCTRINATED INTO? >> LET'S JUST SAY, CHILDREN IN AMERICA CANNOT READ. >> THEY OFTEN DODGED QUESTIONS 409 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,082 INDOCTRINATED INTO? >> LET'S JUST SAY, CHILDREN IN AMERICA CANNOT READ. >> THEY OFTEN DODGED QUESTIONS 410 00:22:30,148 --> 00:22:36,000 WITH TALKING POINTS. >> YOU'RE BEING EVASIVE -- WHAT IDEOLOGY -- >> 20% -- 411 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,422 WITH TALKING POINTS. >> YOU'RE BEING EVASIVE -- WHAT IDEOLOGY -- >> 20% -- 412 00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:42,000 >> WHAT IDEOLOGY ARE THE CHILDREN BEING INDOCTRINATED INTO. WHAT IS YOUR FEAR? 413 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,595 >> WHAT IDEOLOGY ARE THE CHILDREN BEING INDOCTRINATED INTO. WHAT IS YOUR FEAR? 414 00:22:43,662 --> 00:22:48,000 >> I THINK PARENTS' FEARS ARE REALIZED. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE BOOKS WHERE SEXUAL DISCUSSIONS ARE 415 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,500 >> I THINK PARENTS' FEARS ARE REALIZED. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE BOOKS WHERE SEXUAL DISCUSSIONS ARE 416 00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:53,438 HAPPENING WITH THEIR CHILDREN AT YOUNGER AND YOUNGER AGES. >> Reporter: TIFFANY JUSTICE READ FROM SEXUALLY EXPLICIT 417 00:22:53,505 --> 00:22:54,000 BOOKS WRITTEN FOR OLDER TEENS, BUT FOUND IN A FEW LOWER SCHOOLS. MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT THEM 418 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,978 BOOKS WRITTEN FOR OLDER TEENS, BUT FOUND IN A FEW LOWER SCHOOLS. MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT THEM 419 00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:06,000 IN A LOWER SCHOOL, BUT IN A TACTIC OF OUTRAGE POLITICS, MOMS FOR LIBERTY TAKES A KERNEL OF TRUTH AND CONCLUDES THESE 420 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,454 IN A LOWER SCHOOL, BUT IN A TACTIC OF OUTRAGE POLITICS, MOMS FOR LIBERTY TAKES A KERNEL OF TRUTH AND CONCLUDES THESE 421 00:23:09,521 --> 00:23:12,000 EXAMPLES ARE NOT RARE MISTAKES, BUT A PLOT TO SEXUALIZE CHILDREN. >> YOUR CRITICS SAY THAT YOU 422 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,195 EXAMPLES ARE NOT RARE MISTAKES, BUT A PLOT TO SEXUALIZE CHILDREN. >> YOUR CRITICS SAY THAT YOU 423 00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:18,000 HAVE AN ANTI-GAY IDEOLOGY. >> THAT IS FALSE. THAT IS FALSE. >> NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM 424 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,167 HAVE AN ANTI-GAY IDEOLOGY. >> THAT IS FALSE. THAT IS FALSE. >> NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM 425 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,000 THE TRUTH. WE HAVE GAY MEMBERS. I THINK IT'S AN EFFORT TO REALLY TRY TO MARGINALIZE US AS AN 426 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,673 THE TRUTH. WE HAVE GAY MEMBERS. I THINK IT'S AN EFFORT TO REALLY TRY TO MARGINALIZE US AS AN 427 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:30,000 ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE PARENTS ARE COMING TOGETHER, ACROSS RACIAL LINES OR ACROSS RELIGIOUS LINES, ACROSS ALL OF THESE 428 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,246 ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE PARENTS ARE COMING TOGETHER, ACROSS RACIAL LINES OR ACROSS RELIGIOUS LINES, ACROSS ALL OF THESE 429 00:23:34,312 --> 00:23:36,000 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE SEE AMERICANS BEING DIVIDED SO OFTEN. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU -- 430 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,751 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE SEE AMERICANS BEING DIVIDED SO OFTEN. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU -- 431 00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:42,000 >> BUT VOTERS HAVE NOT COME TOGETHER FOR MOMS FOR LIBERTY. LAST YEAR, MOMS ENDORSED 166 SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, 432 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,000 >> BUT VOTERS HAVE NOT COME TOGETHER FOR MOMS FOR LIBERTY. LAST YEAR, MOMS ENDORSED 166 SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, 433 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,494 >> BUT VOTERS HAVE NOT COME TOGETHER FOR MOMS FOR LIBERTY. LAST YEAR, MOMS ENDORSED 166 SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, 434 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:54,000 TWO-THIRDS WERE DEFEATED. ACCORDING TO THE NON-PARTISAN BROOKINGS INSTITUTION. >> MOMS ALSO FACES QUESTIONS 435 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,036 TWO-THIRDS WERE DEFEATED. ACCORDING TO THE NON-PARTISAN BROOKINGS INSTITUTION. >> MOMS ALSO FACES QUESTIONS 436 00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,000 ABOUT ITS THIRD CO-FOUNDER, CONSERVATIVE EDUCATION ACTIVIST, BRIDGET ZIEGLER. SHE LEFT MOMS FOR LIBERTY, AND 437 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,000 ABOUT ITS THIRD CO-FOUNDER, CONSERVATIVE EDUCATION ACTIVIST, BRIDGET ZIEGLER. SHE LEFT MOMS FOR LIBERTY, AND 438 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,812 ABOUT ITS THIRD CO-FOUNDER, CONSERVATIVE EDUCATION ACTIVIST, BRIDGET ZIEGLER. SHE LEFT MOMS FOR LIBERTY, AND 439 00:24:06,878 --> 00:24:12,000 NOW SHE'S BEING ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SARASOTA SCHOOL BOARD. LAST YEAR, SHE TOLD POLICE THAT SHE HAD THREE-WAY SEX WITH HER 440 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,921 NOW SHE'S BEING ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SARASOTA SCHOOL BOARD. LAST YEAR, SHE TOLD POLICE THAT SHE HAD THREE-WAY SEX WITH HER 441 00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:18,000 HUSBAND AND A WOMAN. HER HUSBAND, CHRISTIAN ZIEGLER, HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF RAPE IN ANOTHER INCIDENT. 442 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,461 HUSBAND AND A WOMAN. HER HUSBAND, CHRISTIAN ZIEGLER, HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF RAPE IN ANOTHER INCIDENT. 443 00:24:23,528 --> 00:24:24,000 INVESTIGATORS CONCLUDED THAT ALLEGED ATTACK WAS, QUOTE, LIKELY CONSENSUAL. BUT CHRISTIAN ZIEGLER WAS FORCED 444 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,000 INVESTIGATORS CONCLUDED THAT ALLEGED ATTACK WAS, QUOTE, LIKELY CONSENSUAL. BUT CHRISTIAN ZIEGLER WAS FORCED 445 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,938 INVESTIGATORS CONCLUDED THAT ALLEGED ATTACK WAS, QUOTE, LIKELY CONSENSUAL. BUT CHRISTIAN ZIEGLER WAS FORCED 446 00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:36,000 OUT AS CHAIR OF THE FLORIDA REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE MESSAGES ON MOMS' "X" ACCOUNT, 447 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,546 OUT AS CHAIR OF THE FLORIDA REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE MESSAGES ON MOMS' "X" ACCOUNT, 448 00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:42,000 WHICH ADOPTS THE EXTREMIST SMEAR WITH, IF THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED GROOMERS, THEY SHOULD STOP TRYING TO GROOM OUR KIDS. 449 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,000 WHICH ADOPTS THE EXTREMIST SMEAR WITH, IF THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED GROOMERS, THEY SHOULD STOP TRYING TO GROOM OUR KIDS. 450 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,256 WHICH ADOPTS THE EXTREMIST SMEAR WITH, IF THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED GROOMERS, THEY SHOULD STOP TRYING TO GROOM OUR KIDS. 451 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:54,000 WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? >> WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT IF -- WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE EXACT TWEET. 452 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,864 WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? >> WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT IF -- WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE EXACT TWEET. 453 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:00,000 TIFFANY MANAGES OUR TWITTER ACCOUNT. >> SO WE READ MORE EXACT TWEETS FROM THEIR ACCOUNT. 454 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,567 TIFFANY MANAGES OUR TWITTER ACCOUNT. >> SO WE READ MORE EXACT TWEETS FROM THEIR ACCOUNT. 455 00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:06,000 THIS TARGETS A LIBRARIAN. YOU WANT TO GROOM OUR CHILDREN AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU LOVE? 456 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,076 THIS TARGETS A LIBRARIAN. YOU WANT TO GROOM OUR CHILDREN AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU LOVE? 457 00:25:11,142 --> 00:25:12,000 AGAIN, JUSTICE AND DUSKOVICH WENT TO THEIR TALKING POINTS. >> I'M ASKING, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 458 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,681 AGAIN, JUSTICE AND DUSKOVICH WENT TO THEIR TALKING POINTS. >> I'M ASKING, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 459 00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:18,000 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GROOMING? >> PARENTS WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS, BUT WE DO NOT CO-PARENT WITH THE 460 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,320 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GROOMING? >> PARENTS WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS, BUT WE DO NOT CO-PARENT WITH THE 461 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:24,000 GOVERNMENT. >> GROOMING DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A WORD YOU WANT TO TAKE ON? >> WE DID SOME POLLING AND WE 462 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,000 GOVERNMENT. >> GROOMING DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A WORD YOU WANT TO TAKE ON? >> WE DID SOME POLLING AND WE 463 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,497 GOVERNMENT. >> GROOMING DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A WORD YOU WANT TO TAKE ON? >> WE DID SOME POLLING AND WE 464 00:25:32,564 --> 00:25:36,000 ASKED, WE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, WHERE ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON THIS ISSUE OF PARENTAL RIGHTS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR 465 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,106 ASKED, WE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, WHERE ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON THIS ISSUE OF PARENTAL RIGHTS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR 466 00:25:41,172 --> 00:25:42,000 SCHOOLS? >> DODGING QUESTIONS LIKE THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION BACK IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. 467 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,310 SCHOOLS? >> DODGING QUESTIONS LIKE THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION BACK IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. 468 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:48,000 CRITICS OF THE BOOK BAN SAID THEY KNEW WHAT GROOMER MEANT AND THEY SAW IT A AS A THREAT TO PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE LGBTQ 469 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 CRITICS OF THE BOOK BAN SAID THEY KNEW WHAT GROOMER MEANT AND THEY SAW IT A AS A THREAT TO PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE LGBTQ 470 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,786 CRITICS OF THE BOOK BAN SAID THEY KNEW WHAT GROOMER MEANT AND THEY SAW IT A AS A THREAT TO PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE LGBTQ 471 00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:58,089 COMMUNITY. >> YOU DON'T DO THAT TO THESE KIDS. THEY HAVE THE INTERNET, THEY'RE 472 00:25:58,156 --> 00:26:00,000 GOING TO GET TO IT ANYWAYS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. YOU'RE ONLY TRYING TO MAKE 473 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,229 GOING TO GET TO IT ANYWAYS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. YOU'RE ONLY TRYING TO MAKE 474 00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,000 PEOPLE FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES AND I'M PAST THE TIME WHERE I'M GOING TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO MAKE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF. 475 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,836 PEOPLE FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES AND I'M PAST THE TIME WHERE I'M GOING TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO MAKE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT MYSELF. 476 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:12,000 >> GO TO THE LEFT AND AROUND THE CURVE -- >> ULTIMATELY, BEAUFORT CONFRONTED FEAR AND IGNORANCE 477 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,542 >> GO TO THE LEFT AND AROUND THE CURVE -- >> ULTIMATELY, BEAUFORT CONFRONTED FEAR AND IGNORANCE 478 00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:18,000 WITH CIVILITY AND KNOWLEDGE. THE TOWN ASKED VOLUNTEERS TO ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS. IN MEETINGS THAT LOOKED LIKE 479 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:24,000 WITH CIVILITY AND KNOWLEDGE. THE TOWN ASKED VOLUNTEERS TO ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS. IN MEETINGS THAT LOOKED LIKE 480 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,184 WITH CIVILITY AND KNOWLEDGE. THE TOWN ASKED VOLUNTEERS TO ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS. IN MEETINGS THAT LOOKED LIKE 481 00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:30,000 BOOK CLUBS, OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, 146 COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, PLUS TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS, DISCUSSED, DELIBERATED, AND 482 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,000 BOOK CLUBS, OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, 146 COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, PLUS TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS, DISCUSSED, DELIBERATED, AND 483 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,330 BOOK CLUBS, OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, 146 COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, PLUS TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS, DISCUSSED, DELIBERATED, AND 484 00:26:38,396 --> 00:26:42,000 VOTED. RUTH NAOMI JAMES VOLUNTEERED TO JUDGE THE BOOKS. SHE WORKS FOR THE SCHOOLS AND 485 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,069 VOTED. RUTH NAOMI JAMES VOLUNTEERED TO JUDGE THE BOOKS. SHE WORKS FOR THE SCHOOLS AND 486 00:26:44,135 --> 00:26:48,000 HAS A 16-YEAR-OLD STUDENT. >> HOW MANY OF THE FOUR BOOKS HAVE YOU REVIEWED THAT YOU FELT SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SCHOOL 487 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,476 HAS A 16-YEAR-OLD STUDENT. >> HOW MANY OF THE FOUR BOOKS HAVE YOU REVIEWED THAT YOU FELT SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SCHOOL 488 00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:54,000 SYSTEM? >> NONE. >> SHE'S NOT A MOM FOR LIBERTY, BUT STILL, A LIBERTY-MINED MOM. 489 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,250 SYSTEM? >> NONE. >> SHE'S NOT A MOM FOR LIBERTY, BUT STILL, A LIBERTY-MINED MOM. 490 00:26:59,317 --> 00:27:00,000 >> I'M A COMBAT VETERAN. THERE'S NO WAY I WENT TO IRAQ THINKING THAT WHEN I MOVED BACK HOME, I WOULD HAVE TO DO THIS TO 491 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,790 >> I'M A COMBAT VETERAN. THERE'S NO WAY I WENT TO IRAQ THINKING THAT WHEN I MOVED BACK HOME, I WOULD HAVE TO DO THIS TO 492 00:27:05,857 --> 00:27:06,000 MAKE SURE THAT THE FREEDOM THAT WE FIGHT FOR IN THIS COUNTRY IS TAKEN OUT OF THE HANDS OF STUDENTS. 493 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,730 MAKE SURE THAT THE FREEDOM THAT WE FIGHT FOR IN THIS COUNTRY IS TAKEN OUT OF THE HANDS OF STUDENTS. 494 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:12,000 AND PARENTS. >> THE FINAL VOTES CAME THIS PAST DECEMBER, FIVE BOOKS WERE JUDGED TOO GRAPHIC IN SEX OR 495 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:18,000 AND PARENTS. >> THE FINAL VOTES CAME THIS PAST DECEMBER, FIVE BOOKS WERE JUDGED TOO GRAPHIC IN SEX OR 496 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,000 AND PARENTS. >> THE FINAL VOTES CAME THIS PAST DECEMBER, FIVE BOOKS WERE JUDGED TOO GRAPHIC IN SEX OR 497 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,110 AND PARENTS. >> THE FINAL VOTES CAME THIS PAST DECEMBER, FIVE BOOKS WERE JUDGED TOO GRAPHIC IN SEX OR 498 00:27:25,176 --> 00:27:30,000 VIOLENCE, BUT 92 RETURNED TO THE SCHOOLS. DICK GEIER SAYS THIS LESSON REACHES BEYOND THE CLASSROOM. 499 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,551 VIOLENCE, BUT 92 RETURNED TO THE SCHOOLS. DICK GEIER SAYS THIS LESSON REACHES BEYOND THE CLASSROOM. 500 00:27:33,618 --> 00:27:36,000 >> DIVERSEITY BREEDS TOLERANCE. THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK, AND REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS IMPORTANT, 501 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:42,000 >> DIVERSEITY BREEDS TOLERANCE. THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK, AND REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS IMPORTANT, 502 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,461 >> DIVERSEITY BREEDS TOLERANCE. THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK, AND REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS IMPORTANT, 503 00:27:43,528 --> 00:27:48,000 BUT WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEIR STORY, WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, THE MORE YOU KNOW THAT, THE MORE YOU SEE THE POWER OF DIVERSITY, 504 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,638 BUT WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEIR STORY, WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, THE MORE YOU KNOW THAT, THE MORE YOU SEE THE POWER OF DIVERSITY, 505 00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:54,000 AND THEN BE KIND AND BE UNDERSTANDING AND DON'T MAKE JUDGMENTS, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LIVED THEIR STORY. 506 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,000 AND THEN BE KIND AND BE UNDERSTANDING AND DON'T MAKE JUDGMENTS, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LIVED THEIR STORY. 507 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,116 AND THEN BE KIND AND BE UNDERSTANDING AND DON'T MAKE JUDGMENTS, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LIVED THEIR STORY. 508 00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:06,000 THEY HAVE. >> IN THE CITY THAT'S LIVED A STORY OF LETTERS AND LEARNING, ONE BOOK THAT WAS BANNED AND 509 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,000 THEY HAVE. >> IN THE CITY THAT'S LIVED A STORY OF LETTERS AND LEARNING, ONE BOOK THAT WAS BANNED AND 510 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,724 THEY HAVE. >> IN THE CITY THAT'S LIVED A STORY OF LETTERS AND LEARNING, ONE BOOK THAT WAS BANNED AND 511 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:18,000 RESTORED WAS THE FIXER. A NOVEL OF ANTI-SEMITISM THAT WON THE PULITZER PRIZE. IN ITS PAGES, THE BOOK'S HERO 512 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,768 RESTORED WAS THE FIXER. A NOVEL OF ANTI-SEMITISM THAT WON THE PULITZER PRIZE. IN ITS PAGES, THE BOOK'S HERO 513 00:28:23,835 --> 00:28:24,000 EXPRESSES THIS OPINION. THERE ARE NO WRONG BOOKS. WHAT'S WRONG IS THE FEAR OF THEM. 514 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,707 EXPRESSES THIS OPINION. THERE ARE NO WRONG BOOKS. WHAT'S WRONG IS THE FEAR OF THEM. 515 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:42,000 >>> A SMALL ROBOTIC LANDER BUILT BY A PRIVATE COMPANY AND CARRYING A SCIENTIFIC PAYLOAD FOR NASA TOUCHED DOWN NEAR THE 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,000 >>> A SMALL ROBOTIC LANDER BUILT BY A PRIVATE COMPANY AND CARRYING A SCIENTIFIC PAYLOAD FOR NASA TOUCHED DOWN NEAR THE 517 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,627 >>> A SMALL ROBOTIC LANDER BUILT BY A PRIVATE COMPANY AND CARRYING A SCIENTIFIC PAYLOAD FOR NASA TOUCHED DOWN NEAR THE 518 00:28:49,694 --> 00:28:54,000 SOUTH POLE OF THE MOON 11 DAYS AGO AND PROMPTLY TIPPED OVER ON ITS SIDE. EVEN SO, IT'S THE FIRST AMERICAN 519 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,435 SOUTH POLE OF THE MOON 11 DAYS AGO AND PROMPTLY TIPPED OVER ON ITS SIDE. EVEN SO, IT'S THE FIRST AMERICAN 520 00:28:57,502 --> 00:29:00,000 SPACECRAFT TO LAND ON THE MOON IN MORE THAN 50 YEARS. NASA HAS A MUCH MORE AMBITIOUS LUNAR PROGRAM CALLED ARTEMIS, 521 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:06,000 SPACECRAFT TO LAND ON THE MOON IN MORE THAN 50 YEARS. NASA HAS A MUCH MORE AMBITIOUS LUNAR PROGRAM CALLED ARTEMIS, 522 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,845 SPACECRAFT TO LAND ON THE MOON IN MORE THAN 50 YEARS. NASA HAS A MUCH MORE AMBITIOUS LUNAR PROGRAM CALLED ARTEMIS, 523 00:29:06,911 --> 00:29:12,000 WHICH AIMS TO SEND PEOPLE BACK TO THE MOON TO ESTABLISH AN OUTPOST AT THE SOUTH POLE AND TO PUSH ON FROM THERE TO MARS. 524 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,186 WHICH AIMS TO SEND PEOPLE BACK TO THE MOON TO ESTABLISH AN OUTPOST AT THE SOUTH POLE AND TO PUSH ON FROM THERE TO MARS. 525 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:18,000 WE PREVIEWED ARTEMIS HERE IN 2021, BUT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM'S COST AND ITS 526 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,428 WE PREVIEWED ARTEMIS HERE IN 2021, BUT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM'S COST AND ITS 527 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:24,000 TIMETABLE. IN JANUARY, NASA ANNOUNCED ITS NEW TARGET FOR A MANNED LANDING, LATE 2026. 528 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,934 TIMETABLE. IN JANUARY, NASA ANNOUNCED ITS NEW TARGET FOR A MANNED LANDING, LATE 2026. 529 00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:36,000 A YEAR LATER THAN PLANNED. BUT AS WE DISCOVERED, EVEN THAT MAY BE UNREALISTIC. >> AND LIFTOFF OF ARTEMIS I. 530 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,778 A YEAR LATER THAN PLANNED. BUT AS WE DISCOVERED, EVEN THAT MAY BE UNREALISTIC. >> AND LIFTOFF OF ARTEMIS I. 531 00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:42,000 >> WHEN ARTEMIS I SOARED INTO SPACE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NEARLY FLAWLESS MISSION. 532 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:48,000 >> WHEN ARTEMIS I SOARED INTO SPACE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NEARLY FLAWLESS MISSION. 533 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,591 >> WHEN ARTEMIS I SOARED INTO SPACE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A NEARLY FLAWLESS MISSION. 534 00:29:53,658 --> 00:29:54,000 IN ITS FIRST TEST FLIGHT, NASA'S NEW SPACE FLIGHT ROCKET SENT AN EMPTY ORION CREW CAPSULE ON A 1.4 MILLION MILE FLYBY OF THE 535 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:00,000 IN ITS FIRST TEST FLIGHT, NASA'S NEW SPACE FLIGHT ROCKET SENT AN EMPTY ORION CREW CAPSULE ON A 1.4 MILLION MILE FLYBY OF THE 536 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,201 IN ITS FIRST TEST FLIGHT, NASA'S NEW SPACE FLIGHT ROCKET SENT AN EMPTY ORION CREW CAPSULE ON A 1.4 MILLION MILE FLYBY OF THE 537 00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:06,000 MOON BEFORE A PICTURE-PERFECT RETURN TO EARTH. >> SPLASHDOWN. >> THE NEXT FLIGHT, ARTEMIS II, 538 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,274 MOON BEFORE A PICTURE-PERFECT RETURN TO EARTH. >> SPLASHDOWN. >> THE NEXT FLIGHT, ARTEMIS II, 539 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:12,000 MEANT TO CARRY FOUR ASTRONAUTS ON A LUNAR FLYBY, WAS SUPPOSED TO LAUNCH THIS YEAR, AND THEN A YEAR LATER, ARTEMIS III WOULD 540 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,148 MEANT TO CARRY FOUR ASTRONAUTS ON A LUNAR FLYBY, WAS SUPPOSED TO LAUNCH THIS YEAR, AND THEN A YEAR LATER, ARTEMIS III WOULD 541 00:30:17,215 --> 00:30:18,000 LAND THE FIRST WOMAN AND FIRST PERSON OF COLOR ON THE MOON. IT'S NOT WORKING OUT QUITE THAT WAY. 542 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,000 LAND THE FIRST WOMAN AND FIRST PERSON OF COLOR ON THE MOON. IT'S NOT WORKING OUT QUITE THAT WAY. 543 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,856 LAND THE FIRST WOMAN AND FIRST PERSON OF COLOR ON THE MOON. IT'S NOT WORKING OUT QUITE THAT WAY. 544 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:30,000 >> I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN COSTS, BETTER COST CONTROLS, BETTER PLANNING, THIS ARTEMIS 545 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,331 >> I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN COSTS, BETTER COST CONTROLS, BETTER PLANNING, THIS ARTEMIS 546 00:30:33,398 --> 00:30:36,000 PROGRAM ON ITS CURRENT TRAJECTORY IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. >> GEORGE SCOTT IS NASA'S ACTING INSPECTOR GENERAL. 547 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,370 PROGRAM ON ITS CURRENT TRAJECTORY IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. >> GEORGE SCOTT IS NASA'S ACTING INSPECTOR GENERAL. 548 00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:42,000 DON'T BE MISLED BY THE "ACTING." HE'S BEEN A TOP AGENCY WATCHDOG FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. WHILE NASA'S ENGINEERS HAVE 549 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,545 DON'T BE MISLED BY THE "ACTING." HE'S BEEN A TOP AGENCY WATCHDOG FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. WHILE NASA'S ENGINEERS HAVE 550 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:48,000 THEIR HEADS IN THE STARS, IT'S HIS JOB TO BRING THEM BACK TO EARTH, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO COSTS. 551 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000 THEIR HEADS IN THE STARS, IT'S HIS JOB TO BRING THEM BACK TO EARTH, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO COSTS. 552 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,686 THEIR HEADS IN THE STARS, IT'S HIS JOB TO BRING THEM BACK TO EARTH, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO COSTS. 553 00:30:54,752 --> 00:31:00,000 >> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT PER LAUNCH, THE ARTEMIS CAMPAIGN WILL COST $4.2 BILLION PER LAUNCH. 554 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,826 >> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT PER LAUNCH, THE ARTEMIS CAMPAIGN WILL COST $4.2 BILLION PER LAUNCH. 555 00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:06,000 >> PER LAUNCH? >> PER LAUNCH. THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, PER LAUNCH. 556 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,130 >> PER LAUNCH? >> PER LAUNCH. THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, PER LAUNCH. 557 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:12,000 A LOT OF THAT HARDWARE JUST GOING END TO UP IN THE OCEAN NEVER TO BE USED AGAIN. >> THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR 558 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,637 A LOT OF THAT HARDWARE JUST GOING END TO UP IN THE OCEAN NEVER TO BE USED AGAIN. >> THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR 559 00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:18,000 NASA SAYS THAT THE COSTS FOR THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM ARE SIMPLY UNSUSTAINABLE. IS HE WRONG? 560 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,844 NASA SAYS THAT THE COSTS FOR THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM ARE SIMPLY UNSUSTAINABLE. IS HE WRONG? 561 00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:24,000 >> WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEIR CONCLUSIONS. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN AN AFFORDABLE PATH TO DO THESE 562 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:30,000 >> WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEIR CONCLUSIONS. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN AN AFFORDABLE PATH TO DO THESE 563 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,154 >> WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEIR CONCLUSIONS. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN AN AFFORDABLE PATH TO DO THESE 564 00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:36,000 MISSIONS. >> Reporter: JIM FREE IS NASA'S ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR AND DIRECTLY IN CHARGE OF ARTEMIS. 565 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,661 MISSIONS. >> Reporter: JIM FREE IS NASA'S ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR AND DIRECTLY IN CHARGE OF ARTEMIS. 566 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:42,000 WE MET HIM AT HISTORIC LAUNCH PAD 39B, FROM WHICH BOTH APOLLO AND ARTEMIS ROCKETS HAVE FLOWN. >> WE BELIEVE THAT THE ROCKET WE 567 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,470 WE MET HIM AT HISTORIC LAUNCH PAD 39B, FROM WHICH BOTH APOLLO AND ARTEMIS ROCKETS HAVE FLOWN. >> WE BELIEVE THAT THE ROCKET WE 568 00:31:45,536 --> 00:31:48,000 HAVE IS BEST MATCHED FOR THE MISSION AND FRANKLY, THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TAKE CREWS TO THE MOON. 569 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,976 HAVE IS BEST MATCHED FOR THE MISSION AND FRANKLY, THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TAKE CREWS TO THE MOON. 570 00:31:52,043 --> 00:31:54,000 >> CONFIRMATION THAT THE SOLID ROCKET BOOSTERS HAVE SEPARATED. >> Reporter: BUT AS GEORGE SCOTT SAID, MOST COMPONENTS OF THAT 571 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,883 >> CONFIRMATION THAT THE SOLID ROCKET BOOSTERS HAVE SEPARATED. >> Reporter: BUT AS GEORGE SCOTT SAID, MOST COMPONENTS OF THAT 572 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:00,000 SLS ROCKET END UP IN THE OCEAN. THEY'RE NOT REUSABLE. AND WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING AN OUTPOST ON THE MOON, ARTEMIS 573 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 SLS ROCKET END UP IN THE OCEAN. THEY'RE NOT REUSABLE. AND WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING AN OUTPOST ON THE MOON, ARTEMIS 574 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,859 SLS ROCKET END UP IN THE OCEAN. THEY'RE NOT REUSABLE. AND WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING AN OUTPOST ON THE MOON, ARTEMIS 575 00:32:07,925 --> 00:32:12,000 WILL NEED A LOT OF THOSE $4.2 BILLION ROCKETS. >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE LAUNCH AFTER LAUNCH AFTER LAUNCH TO GET 576 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,866 WILL NEED A LOT OF THOSE $4.2 BILLION ROCKETS. >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE LAUNCH AFTER LAUNCH AFTER LAUNCH TO GET 577 00:32:14,932 --> 00:32:18,000 ALL OF THAT STUFF UP THERE. >> YES. >> SO THE NUMBER OF LAUNCHES IS DAUNTING. 578 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,905 ALL OF THAT STUFF UP THERE. >> YES. >> SO THE NUMBER OF LAUNCHES IS DAUNTING. 579 00:32:20,972 --> 00:32:24,000 BUT IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO THE MOON. >> WHEN AMERICA SENT NEIL ARMSTRONG AND 11 MORE ASTRONAUTS 580 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,000 BUT IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO THE MOON. >> WHEN AMERICA SENT NEIL ARMSTRONG AND 11 MORE ASTRONAUTS 581 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,349 BUT IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO THE MOON. >> WHEN AMERICA SENT NEIL ARMSTRONG AND 11 MORE ASTRONAUTS 582 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:36,000 TO THE MOON A HALF CENTURY AGO -- >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. >> THEY GOT TO THE LUNAR SURFACE 583 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,589 TO THE MOON A HALF CENTURY AGO -- >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. >> THEY GOT TO THE LUNAR SURFACE 584 00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:42,000 ABOARD LANDERS. >> WE LEAVE IT AS WE CAME AND GOD WILLING, AS WE SHALL RETURN. >> OWNED AND OPERATED BY NASA. 585 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,997 ABOARD LANDERS. >> WE LEAVE IT AS WE CAME AND GOD WILLING, AS WE SHALL RETURN. >> OWNED AND OPERATED BY NASA. 586 00:32:46,064 --> 00:32:48,000 >> YOU'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH THIS TIME THAN WITH APOLLO. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME? 587 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,302 >> YOU'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH THIS TIME THAN WITH APOLLO. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME? 588 00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:54,000 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE BUYING IT AS A SERVICE. WE'RE PAYING SOMEONE TO TAKE OUR CREWS DOWN AND TAKE THEM UP. 589 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,976 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE BUYING IT AS A SERVICE. WE'RE PAYING SOMEONE TO TAKE OUR CREWS DOWN AND TAKE THEM UP. 590 00:32:59,043 --> 00:33:00,000 >> IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE YEAR ZPLSH . >> THAT SOMEONE IS ELON MUSK. 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,981 >> IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE YEAR ZPLSH . >> THAT SOMEONE IS ELON MUSK. 592 00:33:04,048 --> 00:33:06,000 IN 2021, NASA SIGNED A NEARLY $3 BILLION CONTRACT WITH HIS SPACEX TO USE ITS NEW STARSHIP MEGAROCKET AS THE LUNAR LANDER 593 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,000 IN 2021, NASA SIGNED A NEARLY $3 BILLION CONTRACT WITH HIS SPACEX TO USE ITS NEW STARSHIP MEGAROCKET AS THE LUNAR LANDER 594 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,624 IN 2021, NASA SIGNED A NEARLY $3 BILLION CONTRACT WITH HIS SPACEX TO USE ITS NEW STARSHIP MEGAROCKET AS THE LUNAR LANDER 595 00:33:13,691 --> 00:33:18,000 FOR THE FIRST ARTEMIS ASTRONAUTS. >> IT IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST FLYING OBJECT EVER MADE. 596 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,500 FOR THE FIRST ARTEMIS ASTRONAUTS. >> IT IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST FLYING OBJECT EVER MADE. 597 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,000 >> SPACEX IS PREPARING FOR ITS THIRD STARSHIP LAUNCH ATOP ITS ENORMOUS SUPER HEAVY BOOSTER. THE FIRST TWO LAUNCHES BOTH 598 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,000 >> SPACEX IS PREPARING FOR ITS THIRD STARSHIP LAUNCH ATOP ITS ENORMOUS SUPER HEAVY BOOSTER. THE FIRST TWO LAUNCHES BOTH 599 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,242 >> SPACEX IS PREPARING FOR ITS THIRD STARSHIP LAUNCH ATOP ITS ENORMOUS SUPER HEAVY BOOSTER. THE FIRST TWO LAUNCHES BOTH 600 00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:36,000 ENDED IN ROUGHLY THE SAME WAY. >> AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUPER HEAVY BOOSTER HAS JUST EXPERIENCED A RAPID UNSCHEDULED 601 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,486 ENDED IN ROUGHLY THE SAME WAY. >> AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUPER HEAVY BOOSTER HAS JUST EXPERIENCED A RAPID UNSCHEDULED 602 00:33:41,552 --> 00:33:42,000 DISASSEMBLY. >> Reporter: RAPID UNSCHEDULED DISASSEMBLY IS SPACEX SPEAK FOR OUR STARSHIP ROCKET JUST BLEW 603 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:48,000 DISASSEMBLY. >> Reporter: RAPID UNSCHEDULED DISASSEMBLY IS SPACEX SPEAK FOR OUR STARSHIP ROCKET JUST BLEW 604 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,826 DISASSEMBLY. >> Reporter: RAPID UNSCHEDULED DISASSEMBLY IS SPACEX SPEAK FOR OUR STARSHIP ROCKET JUST BLEW 605 00:33:48,893 --> 00:33:54,000 UP, AGAIN. >> AND NOW, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PERILS OF RELYING ON SPACEX. >> WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE 606 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,235 UP, AGAIN. >> AND NOW, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PERILS OF RELYING ON SPACEX. >> WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE 607 00:33:57,301 --> 00:34:00,000 CHALLENGES THEY'VE HAD ON STAR SHIP. WE NEED THEM TO LAUNCH SEVERAL TIMES TO GIVE US THE CONFIDENCE 608 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,906 CHALLENGES THEY'VE HAD ON STAR SHIP. WE NEED THEM TO LAUNCH SEVERAL TIMES TO GIVE US THE CONFIDENCE 609 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:06,000 THAT WE CAN PUT OUR CREWS ON THERE. >> BUT RIGHT NOW, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, YOU HAVE NO WAY OF 610 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,111 THAT WE CAN PUT OUR CREWS ON THERE. >> BUT RIGHT NOW, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, YOU HAVE NO WAY OF 611 00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:12,000 GETTING THE ASTRONAUTS TO THE SURFACE OF THE MOON, BECAUSE OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT SPACEX HAS FACED. 612 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,419 GETTING THE ASTRONAUTS TO THE SURFACE OF THE MOON, BECAUSE OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT SPACEX HAS FACED. 613 00:34:14,485 --> 00:34:18,000 >> BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HIT THE TECHNICAL MILESTONES. >> SPACEX'S STATED PLAN IS TO FIRST PUT ITS STARSHIP LANDER 614 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,828 >> BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HIT THE TECHNICAL MILESTONES. >> SPACEX'S STATED PLAN IS TO FIRST PUT ITS STARSHIP LANDER 615 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:24,000 INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT. THEN LAUNCH TEN MORE STAR SHIP TANKERS TO PUMP ROCKET FUEL INTO THE LANDER, IN SPACE. 616 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,967 INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT. THEN LAUNCH TEN MORE STAR SHIP TANKERS TO PUMP ROCKET FUEL INTO THE LANDER, IN SPACE. 617 00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:36,000 >> MAKE SCI-FI REAL. >> Reporter: BEFORE SENDING IT ONWARD TO MEET ASTRONAUTS IN LUNAR ORBIT. 618 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,541 >> MAKE SCI-FI REAL. >> Reporter: BEFORE SENDING IT ONWARD TO MEET ASTRONAUTS IN LUNAR ORBIT. 619 00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:42,000 >> AND THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE? >> THERE'S BEEN SMALL SCALE TRANSFERS IN ORBIT, BUT NOT OF 620 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,347 >> AND THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE? >> THERE'S BEEN SMALL SCALE TRANSFERS IN ORBIT, BUT NOT OF 621 00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:48,000 THIS MAGNITUDE. >> IT JUST SOUNDS INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED. >> IT IS COMPLICATED. 622 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,653 THIS MAGNITUDE. >> IT JUST SOUNDS INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED. >> IT IS COMPLICATED. 623 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,000 THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. YOU JUST LAUNCH TEN TIMES KUIND OF ON A WHIM. >> IF IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE 624 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,196 THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. YOU JUST LAUNCH TEN TIMES KUIND OF ON A WHIM. >> IF IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE 625 00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:00,000 BEFORE, CHANCES ARE IT'S GOING TYKE LONGER THAN YOU THINK TO DO IT AND DO IT SUCCESSFULLY AND PROVE THAT TECHNOLOGY BEFORE WE 626 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,333 BEFORE, CHANCES ARE IT'S GOING TYKE LONGER THAN YOU THINK TO DO IT AND DO IT SUCCESSFULLY AND PROVE THAT TECHNOLOGY BEFORE WE 627 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000 TRUST PUTTING HUMANS ON IT. THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO. >> NASA'S CONTRACT WITH SPACEX REQUIRES THE COMPANY TO MAKE AN 628 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,475 TRUST PUTTING HUMANS ON IT. THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO. >> NASA'S CONTRACT WITH SPACEX REQUIRES THE COMPANY TO MAKE AN 629 00:35:10,541 --> 00:35:12,000 UNMANNED LUNAR LANDING WITH STARSHIP BEFORE TRYING ONE WITH ASTRONAUTS ONBOARD. BUT NASA STILL SAYS THAT THE 630 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 UNMANNED LUNAR LANDING WITH STARSHIP BEFORE TRYING ONE WITH ASTRONAUTS ONBOARD. BUT NASA STILL SAYS THAT THE 631 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,115 UNMANNED LUNAR LANDING WITH STARSHIP BEFORE TRYING ONE WITH ASTRONAUTS ONBOARD. BUT NASA STILL SAYS THAT THE 632 00:35:18,182 --> 00:35:24,000 MANNED MISSION CAN HAPPEN IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. >> THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE TIME FRAME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE 633 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,590 MANNED MISSION CAN HAPPEN IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. >> THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE TIME FRAME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE 634 00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:30,000 END OF 2026 SEEMS AMBITIOUS, TO SAY THE LEAST. >> WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A AMBITIOUS, BUT IT'S A GREAT DEAL 635 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,396 END OF 2026 SEEMS AMBITIOUS, TO SAY THE LEAST. >> WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A AMBITIOUS, BUT IT'S A GREAT DEAL 636 00:35:32,463 --> 00:35:36,000 GOAL TO HAVE. >> IS THAT GOAL REALISTIC? >> I BELIEVE IT IS. I BELIEVE IT IS. 637 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,537 GOAL TO HAVE. >> IS THAT GOAL REALISTIC? >> I BELIEVE IT IS. I BELIEVE IT IS. 638 00:35:39,604 --> 00:35:42,000 >> JIM FREE'S OPTIMISM IS BASED ON SPACEX'S TRACK RECORD WITH ITS SMALLER FALCON ROCKET. >> WOW. 639 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,477 >> JIM FREE'S OPTIMISM IS BASED ON SPACEX'S TRACK RECORD WITH ITS SMALLER FALCON ROCKET. >> WOW. 640 00:35:46,544 --> 00:35:48,000 >> ONCE IT GET THE FALCON UP AND RUNNING, IT DEMONSTRATED IT CAN LAUNCH A LOT, 96 TIMES LAST YEAR ALONE, WITH BOTH COMMERCIAL AND 641 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000 >> ONCE IT GET THE FALCON UP AND RUNNING, IT DEMONSTRATED IT CAN LAUNCH A LOT, 96 TIMES LAST YEAR ALONE, WITH BOTH COMMERCIAL AND 642 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,587 >> ONCE IT GET THE FALCON UP AND RUNNING, IT DEMONSTRATED IT CAN LAUNCH A LOT, 96 TIMES LAST YEAR ALONE, WITH BOTH COMMERCIAL AND 643 00:35:56,654 --> 00:36:00,000 GOVERNMENT PAYLOADS, BUT SO FAR, STARSHIP HAS YET TO REACH ORBIT EVEN ONCE. >> DOES THAT CONCERN YOU, THAT 644 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,361 GOVERNMENT PAYLOADS, BUT SO FAR, STARSHIP HAS YET TO REACH ORBIT EVEN ONCE. >> DOES THAT CONCERN YOU, THAT 645 00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:06,000 THAT'S GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THAT TIMELINE BACK FURTHER? >> OF COURSE, IT ABSOLUTELY CONCERNS ME. 646 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,432 THAT'S GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THAT TIMELINE BACK FURTHER? >> OF COURSE, IT ABSOLUTELY CONCERNS ME. 647 00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:12,000 BECAUSE WE NEED THEM TO LAUNCH MULTIPLE TIMES. >> SPACEX IGNORED OUR MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW OR 648 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,207 BECAUSE WE NEED THEM TO LAUNCH MULTIPLE TIMES. >> SPACEX IGNORED OUR MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW OR 649 00:36:16,274 --> 00:36:18,000 COMMENT, BUT IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE DAILY WIRE IN JANUARY, ELON MUSK SAID THIS. >> WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE 650 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,000 COMMENT, BUT IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE DAILY WIRE IN JANUARY, ELON MUSK SAID THIS. >> WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE 651 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,148 COMMENT, BUT IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE DAILY WIRE IN JANUARY, ELON MUSK SAID THIS. >> WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE 652 00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:30,000 FIRST HUMANS ON THE MOON IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. >> MY VIEW OF THAT IS, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SPACEX, THAT SAYS 653 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,190 FIRST HUMANS ON THE MOON IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. >> MY VIEW OF THAT IS, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SPACEX, THAT SAYS 654 00:36:33,257 --> 00:36:36,000 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LAUNCH OUR CREW IN THE END OF 2026. >> WHY DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHEN WE GET BACK TO THE MOON? 655 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,965 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LAUNCH OUR CREW IN THE END OF 2026. >> WHY DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHEN WE GET BACK TO THE MOON? 656 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,000 HERE'S WHY. CHINA HAS SAID THAT IT PLANS TO SEND ITS TYCONAUTS TO THE MOON BY THE END OF THE DECADE AND 657 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:48,000 HERE'S WHY. CHINA HAS SAID THAT IT PLANS TO SEND ITS TYCONAUTS TO THE MOON BY THE END OF THE DECADE AND 658 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,943 HERE'S WHY. CHINA HAS SAID THAT IT PLANS TO SEND ITS TYCONAUTS TO THE MOON BY THE END OF THE DECADE AND 659 00:36:52,009 --> 00:36:54,000 BILL NELSON HAS PUBLICLY EXPRESSED CONCERN. >> NATURALLY, I DON'T WANT CHINA TO GET TO THE SOUTH POLE FIRST, 660 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,983 BILL NELSON HAS PUBLICLY EXPRESSED CONCERN. >> NATURALLY, I DON'T WANT CHINA TO GET TO THE SOUTH POLE FIRST, 661 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:00,000 WITH HUMANS, AND THEN SAY, THIS IS OURS, STAY OUT. >> TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. WILL PLANT ITS FLAG FIRST, NASA 662 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,000 WITH HUMANS, AND THEN SAY, THIS IS OURS, STAY OUT. >> TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. WILL PLANT ITS FLAG FIRST, NASA 663 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,000 WITH HUMANS, AND THEN SAY, THIS IS OURS, STAY OUT. >> TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. WILL PLANT ITS FLAG FIRST, NASA 664 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,863 WITH HUMANS, AND THEN SAY, THIS IS OURS, STAY OUT. >> TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. WILL PLANT ITS FLAG FIRST, NASA 665 00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:18,000 SIGNED A NEW $3 BILLION CONTRACT LAST YEAR WITH BLUE ORIGIN, THE SPACE COMPANY OWNED BY BILLIONAIRE JEFF BEZOS, TO BUILD 666 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,305 SIGNED A NEW $3 BILLION CONTRACT LAST YEAR WITH BLUE ORIGIN, THE SPACE COMPANY OWNED BY BILLIONAIRE JEFF BEZOS, TO BUILD 667 00:37:21,372 --> 00:37:24,000 ANOTHER THE LUNAR LANDER, AND JIM FREE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HE SEES IT AS AN OPTION IF SPACEX STARSHIPS KEEP BLOWING 668 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,000 ANOTHER THE LUNAR LANDER, AND JIM FREE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HE SEES IT AS AN OPTION IF SPACEX STARSHIPS KEEP BLOWING 669 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,215 ANOTHER THE LUNAR LANDER, AND JIM FREE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HE SEES IT AS AN OPTION IF SPACEX STARSHIPS KEEP BLOWING 670 00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:34,952 UP. >> IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO RELY ON. 671 00:37:35,019 --> 00:37:36,000 IF WE HAVE A DEPENDENCY ON A PARTICULAR ASPECT IN SPACEX OR BLUE ORIGIN AND IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER LANDER 672 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,759 IF WE HAVE A DEPENDENCY ON A PARTICULAR ASPECT IN SPACEX OR BLUE ORIGIN AND IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER LANDER 673 00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:42,000 THAT CAN TAKE OUR CREWS. >> IN THIS BATTLE OF THE STAR-GAZING BILLIONAIRES, BEZOS' BLUE ORIGIN HAS FAR FEWER 674 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,000 THAT CAN TAKE OUR CREWS. >> IN THIS BATTLE OF THE STAR-GAZING BILLIONAIRES, BEZOS' BLUE ORIGIN HAS FAR FEWER 675 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,236 THAT CAN TAKE OUR CREWS. >> IN THIS BATTLE OF THE STAR-GAZING BILLIONAIRES, BEZOS' BLUE ORIGIN HAS FAR FEWER 676 00:37:52,303 --> 00:37:54,000 LAUNCHES THAN MUSK'S SPACEX AND HAS BEEN FAR QUIETER ABOUT ITS AMBITIONS, UNTIL NOW. >> SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO 677 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,109 LAUNCHES THAN MUSK'S SPACEX AND HAS BEEN FAR QUIETER ABOUT ITS AMBITIONS, UNTIL NOW. >> SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO 678 00:37:58,175 --> 00:38:00,000 IS NOT ONLY GET TO THE MOON AND BACK, BUT MAKE IT RELIABLE AND REPEATABLE AND LOW-COST. >> JOHN COLORIS TITLE AT BLUE 679 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,000 IS NOT ONLY GET TO THE MOON AND BACK, BUT MAKE IT RELIABLE AND REPEATABLE AND LOW-COST. >> JOHN COLORIS TITLE AT BLUE 680 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,586 IS NOT ONLY GET TO THE MOON AND BACK, BUT MAKE IT RELIABLE AND REPEATABLE AND LOW-COST. >> JOHN COLORIS TITLE AT BLUE 681 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:12,000 ORIGIN IS SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF LUNAR PERMANENCE, AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE COMPANY'S AMBITION. 682 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,823 ORIGIN IS SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF LUNAR PERMANENCE, AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE COMPANY'S AMBITION. 683 00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:18,000 >> THE LANDERS AT BLUE ORIGINS ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING ARE REUSABLE. WE'LL LAUNCH THEM TO LUNAR ORBIT 684 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,664 >> THE LANDERS AT BLUE ORIGINS ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING ARE REUSABLE. WE'LL LAUNCH THEM TO LUNAR ORBIT 685 00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:24,000 AND LEAVE THEM THERE. AND WE'LL REFUEL THEM IN ORBIT, SO THAT MULTIPLE ASTRONAUTS CAN USE THE SAME VEHICLE BACK AND 686 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,270 AND LEAVE THEM THERE. AND WE'LL REFUEL THEM IN ORBIT, SO THAT MULTIPLE ASTRONAUTS CAN USE THE SAME VEHICLE BACK AND 687 00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:30,000 FORTH. >> OUR CAMERAS WERE AMONG THE FIRST TO BE ALLOWED INSIDE BLUE ORIGIN'S HUGE COMPLEX IN 688 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,344 FORTH. >> OUR CAMERAS WERE AMONG THE FIRST TO BE ALLOWED INSIDE BLUE ORIGIN'S HUGE COMPLEX IN 689 00:38:33,411 --> 00:38:36,000 FLORIDA, JUST NEXT TO KENNEDY SPACE CENTER. >> SO THIS IS WHERE THE FUTURE IS BEING BUILT. 690 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,516 FLORIDA, JUST NEXT TO KENNEDY SPACE CENTER. >> SO THIS IS WHERE THE FUTURE IS BEING BUILT. 691 00:38:38,582 --> 00:38:42,000 >> THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS THE MAIN FACTORY FLOOR FOR THE NEW GLENN ROCKET. >> NEW GLENN IS BLUE ORIGIN'S 692 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,790 >> THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS THE MAIN FACTORY FLOOR FOR THE NEW GLENN ROCKET. >> NEW GLENN IS BLUE ORIGIN'S 693 00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:48,000 FIRST HEAVY LIFT ROCKET. ITS MAIDEN LAUNCH WILL BE SOME TIME THIS YEAR. >> SO YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE, WE 694 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,663 FIRST HEAVY LIFT ROCKET. ITS MAIDEN LAUNCH WILL BE SOME TIME THIS YEAR. >> SO YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE, WE 695 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:54,000 HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SECOND STAGES ALREADY IN BUILD HERE. >> THE FIRST NEW GLENN IS ALREADY OUT AT BLUE ORIGIN'S 696 00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,000 HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SECOND STAGES ALREADY IN BUILD HERE. >> THE FIRST NEW GLENN IS ALREADY OUT AT BLUE ORIGIN'S 697 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,038 HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SECOND STAGES ALREADY IN BUILD HERE. >> THE FIRST NEW GLENN IS ALREADY OUT AT BLUE ORIGIN'S 698 00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:06,000 LAUNCH COMPLEX. IT'S DESIGNED TO CARRY ALL SORTS OF PAYLOADS, INCLUDING THE LUNAR LANDER BEING BUILD FOR NASA. 699 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,944 LAUNCH COMPLEX. IT'S DESIGNED TO CARRY ALL SORTS OF PAYLOADS, INCLUDING THE LUNAR LANDER BEING BUILD FOR NASA. 700 00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:12,000 >> SO THIS IS THE MARK 1 LANDER. WE CALL THIS OUR SMALL LANDER. >> THIS IS THE SMALL ONE? >> YES. 701 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,018 >> SO THIS IS THE MARK 1 LANDER. WE CALL THIS OUR SMALL LANDER. >> THIS IS THE SMALL ONE? >> YES. 702 00:39:14,085 --> 00:39:18,000 >> IT'S ACTUALLY A MOCK-UP OF THEIR CARGO LANDER IN BLUE ORIGIN'S FLORIDA LOBBY. JOHN COOLORES USED TO WORK AT 703 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:24,000 >> IT'S ACTUALLY A MOCK-UP OF THEIR CARGO LANDER IN BLUE ORIGIN'S FLORIDA LOBBY. JOHN COOLORES USED TO WORK AT 704 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,295 >> IT'S ACTUALLY A MOCK-UP OF THEIR CARGO LANDER IN BLUE ORIGIN'S FLORIDA LOBBY. JOHN COOLORES USED TO WORK AT 705 00:39:24,361 --> 00:39:30,000 SPACEX AND CAME OVER TO BLUE TO HELP SPEED THINGS UP. IS THERE A BIT OF A SPACE RACE BETWEEN YOU AND SPACEX? 706 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,769 SPACEX AND CAME OVER TO BLUE TO HELP SPEED THINGS UP. IS THERE A BIT OF A SPACE RACE BETWEEN YOU AND SPACEX? 707 00:39:31,836 --> 00:39:36,000 >> SO THE COUNTRY NEEDS COMPETITION. WE NEED OPTIONS. COMPETITION BRINGS INNOVATION. 708 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,676 >> SO THE COUNTRY NEEDS COMPETITION. WE NEED OPTIONS. COMPETITION BRINGS INNOVATION. 709 00:39:38,743 --> 00:39:42,000 >> BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING CLOSE TO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT SPACEX HAS HAD AT THIS POINT, HAVE YOU? 710 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:48,000 >> BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING CLOSE TO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT SPACEX HAS HAD AT THIS POINT, HAVE YOU? 711 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,853 >> BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING CLOSE TO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT SPACEX HAS HAD AT THIS POINT, HAVE YOU? 712 00:39:48,919 --> 00:39:54,000 >> SPACEX HAVE DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS AND CHANGED THE NARRATIVE WITH ACCESS TO SPACE AND BLUE ORIGIN IS LOOKING TO DO THE 713 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,193 >> SPACEX HAVE DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS AND CHANGED THE NARRATIVE WITH ACCESS TO SPACE AND BLUE ORIGIN IS LOOKING TO DO THE 714 00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:00,000 SAME. THIS LANDER, WE'RE EXPECTING TO LAND ON THE MOON BETWEEN 12 AND 16 MONTHS FROM TODAY. 715 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,333 SAME. THIS LANDER, WE'RE EXPECTING TO LAND ON THE MOON BETWEEN 12 AND 16 MONTHS FROM TODAY. 716 00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:06,000 >> 12 AND 16 MONTHS FROM TODAY. >> YES. YES. AND UNDERSTAND, I'M SAYING THAT 717 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,539 >> 12 AND 16 MONTHS FROM TODAY. >> YES. YES. AND UNDERSTAND, I'M SAYING THAT 718 00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:12,000 PUBLICLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR TEAM IS AIMING TOWARDS. >> THAT'S FOR THE CARGO LANDER. WHAT ABOUT HUMANS? 719 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,214 PUBLICLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR TEAM IS AIMING TOWARDS. >> THAT'S FOR THE CARGO LANDER. WHAT ABOUT HUMANS? 720 00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:18,000 >> FOR HUMANS, WE'RE WORKING WITH NASA ON THE ARTEMIS V MISSION. THAT'S PLANNED FOR 2029. 721 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,721 >> FOR HUMANS, WE'RE WORKING WITH NASA ON THE ARTEMIS V MISSION. THAT'S PLANNED FOR 2029. 722 00:40:23,788 --> 00:40:24,000 >> THAT'S NOT SO DIFFERENT FROM ELON MUSK'S FORECAST OF WHEN SPACEX CAN LAND HUMANS BACK ON THE MOON, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T 723 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,000 >> THAT'S NOT SO DIFFERENT FROM ELON MUSK'S FORECAST OF WHEN SPACEX CAN LAND HUMANS BACK ON THE MOON, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T 724 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,729 >> THAT'S NOT SO DIFFERENT FROM ELON MUSK'S FORECAST OF WHEN SPACEX CAN LAND HUMANS BACK ON THE MOON, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T 725 00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:36,000 MATCH NASA'S. LIKE THE STARSHIP, BLUE ORIGIN'S LANDER WILL REQUIRE IN-SPACE REFUELING. 726 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,572 MATCH NASA'S. LIKE THE STARSHIP, BLUE ORIGIN'S LANDER WILL REQUIRE IN-SPACE REFUELING. 727 00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:42,000 BUT COULURIS HOPES THAT IT WILL HELP TRIM COSTS. >> OUR NEW VEHICLE WILL BE A REUSABLE VEHICLE FROM ITS FIRST 728 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,410 BUT COULURIS HOPES THAT IT WILL HELP TRIM COSTS. >> OUR NEW VEHICLE WILL BE A REUSABLE VEHICLE FROM ITS FIRST 729 00:40:46,477 --> 00:40:48,000 MISSION. THAT LANDER THE FOR THE ASTRONAUTS IS A REUSABLE LANDER. SO NOW YOU'RE NOT JUST TAKING 730 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,314 MISSION. THAT LANDER THE FOR THE ASTRONAUTS IS A REUSABLE LANDER. SO NOW YOU'RE NOT JUST TAKING 731 00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:54,000 THE EQUIPMENT AND THROWING IT AWAY. YOU'RE RE-USING IT FOR THE NEXT MISSION. 732 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,251 THE EQUIPMENT AND THROWING IT AWAY. YOU'RE RE-USING IT FOR THE NEXT MISSION. 733 00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:58,756 >> YOU DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. IS THAT WHERE THE COST SAVINGS COMES IN? 734 00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:00,000 >> EXACTLY. WE ARE NOW BUILDING WITH NASA THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENSURE LUNAR PERMANENCY. 735 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,763 >> EXACTLY. WE ARE NOW BUILDING WITH NASA THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENSURE LUNAR PERMANENCY. 736 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:06,000 >> YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM IS THE BEGINNING, NOT THE END. TELL ME, WHAT IS THE FUTURE YOU 737 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,000 >> YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM IS THE BEGINNING, NOT THE END. TELL ME, WHAT IS THE FUTURE YOU 738 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,203 >> YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM IS THE BEGINNING, NOT THE END. TELL ME, WHAT IS THE FUTURE YOU 739 00:41:12,269 --> 00:41:17,541 SEE? >> I SEE US LANDING ON MARS. ABSOLUTELY SEE US LANDING ON MARS. 740 00:41:17,608 --> 00:41:18,000 BUT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE MOON TO GET TO MARS. >> THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT GOALS, GOING BACK TO THE MOON, GOING TO 741 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000 BUT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE MOON TO GET TO MARS. >> THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT GOALS, GOING BACK TO THE MOON, GOING TO 742 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,184 BUT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE MOON TO GET TO MARS. >> THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT GOALS, GOING BACK TO THE MOON, GOING TO 743 00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:30,000 MARS, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DREAMING OF DOING? >> YOU KNOW, THIS IS NASA, RIGHT? 744 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,458 MARS, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DREAMING OF DOING? >> YOU KNOW, THIS IS NASA, RIGHT? 745 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:36,000 THIS AGENCY IS DESTINED TO CONTINUE TO DO GREAT THINGS. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WHAT WE'RE TELLING THE AGENCY 746 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,830 THIS AGENCY IS DESTINED TO CONTINUE TO DO GREAT THINGS. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WHAT WE'RE TELLING THE AGENCY 747 00:41:39,897 --> 00:41:42,000 IS, JUST BE MORE REALISTIC. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING OPTIMISTIC. IN FACT, IT'S REQUIRED. 748 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,169 IS, JUST BE MORE REALISTIC. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING OPTIMISTIC. IN FACT, IT'S REQUIRED. 749 00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:48,000 IN THIS BUSINESS, OPTIMISM IS REQUIRED. THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU ALSO BE MORE REALISTIC? 750 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,340 IN THIS BUSINESS, OPTIMISM IS REQUIRED. THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU ALSO BE MORE REALISTIC? 751 00:42:00,317 --> 00:42:06,000 >> Announcer: THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, THERE FOR WHAT MATTERS. 752 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,091 >> Announcer: THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, THERE FOR WHAT MATTERS. 753 00:42:07,157 --> 00:42:12,000 IS >> NOW AN UPDATE OF A STORY BILL WHITAKER REPORTED SIX YEARS AGO. IN THE YEAR '79, MT. SE SOOUF 754 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,835 IS >> NOW AN UPDATE OF A STORY BILL WHITAKER REPORTED SIX YEARS AGO. IN THE YEAR '79, MT. SE SOOUF 755 00:42:17,902 --> 00:42:18,000 JUST ERUPTED, AT ONE VILLA, A LIBRARY'S NEARLY 2,000 SCROLLS TURNED INTO BRITTLE CARBONIZED LUMPS. 756 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,000 JUST ERUPTED, AT ONE VILLA, A LIBRARY'S NEARLY 2,000 SCROLLS TURNED INTO BRITTLE CARBONIZED LUMPS. 757 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,242 JUST ERUPTED, AT ONE VILLA, A LIBRARY'S NEARLY 2,000 SCROLLS TURNED INTO BRITTLE CARBONIZED LUMPS. 758 00:42:25,309 --> 00:42:30,000 THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY'S BRENT SEALS HAS SPENT YEARS TRYING TO UNLOCK THE SCROLL'S SECRETS. 759 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,983 THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY'S BRENT SEALS HAS SPENT YEARS TRYING TO UNLOCK THE SCROLL'S SECRETS. 760 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:36,000 >> THE HISTORY OF THE UNWRAPPING OF THE SCROLLS IS LITTERED WITH FAILURES. EVERYONE WHO HAD TRIALED TO OPEN 761 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,757 >> THE HISTORY OF THE UNWRAPPING OF THE SCROLLS IS LITTERED WITH FAILURES. EVERYONE WHO HAD TRIALED TO OPEN 762 00:42:39,823 --> 00:42:42,000 THE CONTROLS HAD LEFT BEHIND A HIDEOUS TRAIL OF FRAGMENTARY RESULT. >> PROFESSOR SEALES HOSTED A 763 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,000 THE CONTROLS HAD LEFT BEHIND A HIDEOUS TRAIL OF FRAGMENTARY RESULT. >> PROFESSOR SEALES HOSTED A 764 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,704 THE CONTROLS HAD LEFT BEHIND A HIDEOUS TRAIL OF FRAGMENTARY RESULT. >> PROFESSOR SEALES HOSTED A 765 00:42:53,771 --> 00:42:54,000 INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION TO READ THE SCROLLS. NOW THREE STUDENTS USING SALEES DATA AND TECHNIQUES HAVE 766 00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,000 INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION TO READ THE SCROLLS. NOW THREE STUDENTS USING SALEES DATA AND TECHNIQUES HAVE 767 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,277 INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION TO READ THE SCROLLS. NOW THREE STUDENTS USING SALEES DATA AND TECHNIQUES HAVE 768 00:43:00,344 --> 00:43:02,079 SUCCEEDED INDY SEEFRING ONE, A PHILOSOPHICAL WORK ON PLEASURE.