>>> I WILL SIT HERE AND SPEAK TRUTH TO YOU. >> THINK YOU KNOW PRINCE HARRY'S STORY?
THINK AGAIN. FROM RECENT ROYAL INFIGHTING LITERALLY WITH PRINCE WILLIAM. >> HE SHOUT AT ME, I SHOUT BACK
AT HIM AND HE SNAPPED AND HE PUSHED ME TO THE FLOOR. >> TO WHY HIS MARRIAGE WITH MEGHAN MARKLE HAS BEEN
RELENTLESS TABLOID FODDER. BUT ALL THOSE THINGS WITHIN THE FAMILY ALSO WERE SOURCES OF MISTRUST, IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> BUT ALSO THE BRITISH PRESS AND NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE WERE LIKE HE'S CHANGED, SHE MUST BE A WITCH.
>> TONIGHT PRINCE HARRY ON "60 MINUTES." >>> IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE MOVIES IN THE PAST 40 YEARS YOU HAVE
HEARD A HANS ZIMMER SCORE, ACTION, DRAMA, COMEDY, BLOCK BUSTERS. HE'S DONE THEM ALL.
>> I WOULD DESCRIBE MYSELF AS SOMEBODY WHO'S DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH MUSIC AND DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH MOVIES.
VERY NICE. >> I'M LESLIE STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JOHN WERTHEIM. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. >> THOSE STORIES AND MORE
TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES."
>>> PRINCE HARRY MAY HAVE STEPPED BACK FROM HIS ROYAL DUTIES IN 2020, BUT HE AND HIS WIFE MEGHAN, THE DUCHESS OF
SUSSEX, CERTAINLY HAVEN'T STEPPED AWAY FROM THE SPOTLIGHT. JUST LAST MONTH THEY APPEARED IN A SIX PART NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY
ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND THEIR DECISION TO LEAVE THEIR ROYAL LIVES BEHIND. BUT NOW THE 38-YEAR-OLD PRINCE
HARRY TELLING HIS OWN STORY IN A NEW MEMOIR COMING OUT TUESDAY CALLED "SPARE" A NOD TO HIS BACK UP ROLE IN THE LINE OF
SUCCESSION. THE BOOK IS STUNNING BREAK WITH ROYAL PROTOCOL. IT'S A DEEPLY PERSONAL ACCOUNT
OF PRINCE HARRY'S DECADES LONG STRUGGLE WITH GRIEF AFTER THE DEATH OF HIS MOTHER PRINCESS DIANA, AND A REVEALING LOOK AT
HIS FRACTURED RELATIONSHIPS WITH HIS FATHER, KING CHARLES, HIS STEPMOTHER AND THE QUEEN CONSORT, CAMILA, AND HIS BROTHER
PRINCE WILLIAM, THE HEIR TO HIS SPARE. YOU WRITE ABOUT A CONTENTIOUS MEETING YOU HAD WITH HIM IN
2021. YOU SAID I LOOKED AT WILLY, REALLY LOOKED AT HIM MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE WE WERE
BOY. I TOOK IT ALL IN. HIS FAMILIAR SCOWL, HIS ALARMING BALDNESS MORE ADVANCED THAN MY
OWN, HIS FAMOUS RESEMBLANCE TO MOMMY WHICH WAS FADING WITH TIME. IT'S PRETTY CUTTING.
>> I DON'T SEE IT AS CUTTING AT ALL. MY BROTHER AND I LOVE EACH OTHER.
I LOVE HIM DEEPLY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PAIN BETWEEN THE TWO OF US ESPECIALLY THE LAST SIX YEARS.
NONE OF ANYTHING I'VE WRITTEN AND ANYTHING I'VE INCLUDED IS EVER INTENDED TO HURT MY FAMILY, BUT IT DOES GIVE A FULL PICTURE
OF THE SITUATION AS WE WERE GROWING UP. AND ALSO SQUASHES THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW MY WIFE WAS THE ONE THAT
DESTROYED THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE TWO BROTHERS. >> I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD WATCHED YOU AND YOUR
BROTHER GROW UP AND FEEL LIKE YOU TWO WERE INSEPARABLE. AND YET IN READING THE BOOK, YOU HAVE LIVED SEPARATE LIVES FROM
THE TIME YOUR MOM DIED. EVEN WHEN YOU WERE IN THE SAME SCHOOL, IN HIGH SCHOOL. >> SIBLING RIVALRY.
>> YOUR BROTHER TOLD YOU PRETEND WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. >> YEAH, AND AT THE TIME IT HURT.
WE'RE NOW AT THE SAME SCHOOL. LIKE I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU FOR AGES. NOW WE GET TO HANG OUT TOGETHER.
HE'S LIKE, NO, WHEN WE'RE AT SCHOOL WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. AND I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY. WE HAD A SIMILAR TRAUMATIC
EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE -- WE DEALT WITH IT TWO VERY DIFFERENT WAYS. >> WILLIAM TRIED TO TALK TO YOU
OCCASIONALLY ABOUT YOUR MOM, BUT AS A CHILD YOU COULD NOT -- YOU COULDN'T RESPOND. >> FOR ME IT WAS NEVER A CASE OF
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU, AND JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK ABOUT IT. I NEVER, EVER THOUGHT THAT MAYBE
TALKING ABOUT IT WITH MY BROTHER OR WITH ANYBODY ELSE AT THAT POINT WOULD BE THERAPEUTIC. >> IN AUGUST 1997 HARRY AND
WILLIAM WERE VACATIONING IN SCOTLAND WITH THEIR FATHER. HARRY WAS 12, WILLIAM 15. THEY WERE ASLEEP AT BALMORAL
CASTLE ON AUGUST 31st WHEN HARRY WAS AWAKENED BY HIS FATHER WHO TOLD HIM HIS MOTHER HAD BEEN IN A CAR CRASH IN PARIS.
IN THE BOOK YOU WRITE, HE SAYS, THEY TRIED DARL BOY, I'M AFRAID SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT. THESE PHRASES REMAIN IN MY MIND
LIKE DARTS IN A BOARD, YOU SAY. DID YOU CRY? >> NO. NEVER SHED A SINGLE TEAR AT THAT
POINT. I WAS IN SHOCK. YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS OLD, SORT OF 7:00, 7:30 IN THE MORNING EARLY,
YOUR FATHER COMES IN, SITS ON YOUR BED, PUTS HIS HAND ON YOUR KNEE AND TELLS YOU THERE'S BEEN AN ACCIDENT.
I -- I COULDN'T BELIEVE. >> AND YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT PA DIDN'T HUG ME. HIS HAND DID FALL ONCE ON ME
KNEE AND SAID IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. BUT AFTER THAT NOTHING WAS OKAY FOR A LONG TIME.
>> YEAH, NOTHING WAS OKAY. >> HARRY SAYS HIS MEMORIES OF THE NEXT FEW DAYS ARE FRAGMENTED, BUT HE DOES REMEMBER
THIS. GREETING MOURNERS OUTSIDE KENSINGTON PALACE IN LONDON THE DAY BEFORE HIS MOTHER'S FUNERAL.
>> WHEN YOU SEE THOSE VIDEOS NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I THINK IT'S BIZARRE BECAUSE I SEE WILLIAM AND ME SMILING.
I REMEMBER THE GUILT THAT I FELT. >> GUILT ABOUT -- >> THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WE WERE
MEETING WERE SHOWING MORE EMOTION THAN WE WERE SHOWING. THERE'D BE MORE EMOTION THAN WE EVEN FELT.
>> THEY WERE CRYING BUT YOU WEREN'T. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF TEARS. I TALK ABOUT HOW WET PEOPLES
HANDS WERE. THEIR HANDS WERE WET FROM WIPING THEIR OWN TEARS AWAY. I DO REMEMBER ONE OF THE
STRANGEST PARTS TO IT WAS TAKING FLOWERS FROM PEOPLE AND THEN PLACING THOSE FLOWERS WITH THE REST OF THEM AS IF I WAS SOME
SORT OF MIDDLE PERSON FOR THEIR GRIEF. AND THAT REALLY STOOD OUT FOR ME.
THE FUNERAL ON A COOL SEPTEMBER MORNING WAS WATCHED BY AS MANY AS 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.
PERHAPS THE MOST INDELIBLE IMAGE PRINCE HARRY AND HIS BROTHER WALKING BEHIND THEIR MOTHER'S CASKET ON ITS WAY TO WESTMINSTER
ABBEY. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT WALK? >> HOW QUIET IT WAS.
I REMEMBER THE OCCASIONAL WAIL AND SCREAMING OF SOMEONE. I THE HORSE HOOVES ON THE ROAD. THE BRIDLES OF THE HORSES, THE
GUN CARRIERS, THE HEELS, BUT MAINLY THE SILENCE. >> AFTER THE SERVICE PRINCESS DIANA'S BODY WAS BROUGHT FOR
BURIAL IN HER ANCESTRAL ESTATE, ALTHORP. >> ONCE THE COFFIN WENT INTO THE GROUND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I
ACTUALLY CRY. THERE WAS NEVER ANOTHER TIME. >> ALL THROUGH YOUR TEEN YEARS YOU NEVER CRIED ABOUT IT.
YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE SHE WAS DEAD. >> FOR A LONG TIME. I JUST REFUSED TO ACCEPT SHE WAS GONE.
PART OF SHE WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO US, BUT ALSO PART OF MAYBE THIS IS ALL PART OF A PLAN. >> YOU REALLY BELIEVED THAT
MAYBE SHE HAD JUST DECIDED TO DISAPPEAR FOR A TIME. >> FOR A TIME AND THEN SHE WOULD CALL US AND WE WOULD GO AND JOIN
HER. >> HOW LONG DID YOU BELIEVE THAT? >> YEARS, MANY, MANY YEARS.
>> YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK YOU'D SAY I'D OFTEN SAY IT TO MYSELF FIRST THING IN THE MORNING MAYBE THIS IS THE DAY, MAYBE THIS IS
THE DAY SHE'S GOING TO REAPPEAR. >> YEAH, HOPE. I HAD HUGE AMOUNTS OF HOPE. >> HE HELD ONTO THAT HOPE INTO
ADULTHOOD. WHEN HARRY WAS 20 HE ASKED TO SEE THE POLICE REPORT ABOUT THE CRASH THAT KILLED HIS MOTHER,
HER BOYFRIEND, AND THEIR DRIVER WHILE THEY WERE BEING PURSUED BY PAPARAZZI IN A PARIS TUNNEL. THE FILES CONTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS OF
THE CRASH SCENE. WHY DID YOU WANT TO SEE THEM? >> MAINLY PROOF, PROOF THAT SHE WAS IN THE CAR, PROOF THAT SHE
WAS INJURED, AND PROOF THAT THE VERY PAPARAZZI THAT CHASED HER INTO THE TUNNEL WERE THE ONES THAT WERE TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF
HER LYING HALF DEAD ON THE BACK SEAT OF THE CAR. >> YOU WRITE I HADN'T BEEN AWARE BEFORE THIS MOMENT -- TALKING
ABOUT LOOKING AT THE PICTURES OF THE CRASH SCENE -- THAT THE LAST THING MUMMY SAW ON THIS EARTH WAS A FLASHBULB.
>> THE PICTURES SHOWED THE REFLECTION OF A GROUP OF PHOTOGRAPHERS TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS THROUGH THE WINDOW, AND THE
REFLECTION ON THE WINDOW WAS THEM. >> HE ONLY SAW SOME OF THE CRASH PHOTOS.
HIS PRIVATE SECRETARY AND ADVISOR DISSUADED HIM FROM LOOKING AT THE REST. >> ALL I SAW WAS THE BACK OF MY
MOM'S HEAD SLUMPED ON THE BACK SEAT. THERE WERE OTHER MORE GRUESOME PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT I WILL BE
ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO HIM FOR DENYING ME THE ABILITY TO INFLICT PAIN ON MYSELF BY SEEING THAT.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT STICKS IN YOUR MIND FOREVER. >> MARRY SAYS ME BELIEVED HIS
MOTHER WHITE STILL BE ALIVE UNTIL HE WAS 23 AND VISITED PARIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. YOU TOLD YOUR DRIVER I WANT TO
GO TO THE TUNNEL WHERE MY MOM DIED. >> I WANTED TO SEE WHETHERTIST POSSIBLE DRIVING AT THE SPEED
THAT HENRY PAUL WAS DRIVING THAT YOU COULD LOSE CONTROL OF A CAR AND PLOW INTO A PILLAR KILLING ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THAT CAR.
I NEED TO TAKE THIS JOURNEY. I NEED TO RIDE THE SAME ROUTE. >> THE SAME TUNNEL, THE SAME SPEED.
>> ALL OF IT. >> YOUR MOTHER WAS GOING. >> BECAUSE WILLIAM AND I HAD ALREADY BEEN TOLD THE ACCIDENT
OZA BICYCLE CHAIN. THE YOU REMOVED ONE OF THOSE CHAINS THE EVENT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
YET EVERYBODY GOT AWAY WITH IT. >> HARRY WRITES HE AND HIS BROTHER WEREN'T SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS OF A 2006
INVESTIGATION BY LONDON'S METROPOLITAN POLICE CONCLUDING DIANA'S DRIVER HAD BEEN DRINKING AND THE CRASH WAS, A QUOTE,
TRAGIC ACCIDENT. >> WILLIAM AND I CONSIDERED REOPENING THE INQUEST BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY GAPS AND
HOLES IN IT, IT DIDN'T ADD UP AND MAKE ANY SENSE. >> WOULD YOU STILL LIKE TO DO IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW EVEN KNOW IT'S AN OPTION NOW. NO, I THINK WOULD I LIKE TO DO THAT -- IT'S A HELL OF A
QUESTION, ANDERSON. >> DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS YOU NEED TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR MOM?
>> TRUTH BE KNOWN, NO. I DON'T THINK I DO. AND I DON'T THINK MY BROTHER DOES EITHER OR ANYONE IN THE
WORLD DOES. DO I NEED ANYMORE THAN I ALREADY KNOW? NO.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE MUCH. >> HARRY NOW SAYS IT WASN'T UNTIL HE SERVED IN COMBAT WITH
THE BRITISH ARMY IN AFGHANISTAN THAT HE FINALLY FOUND PURMSPOSE AND A SENSE OF NORMALCY. >> MY MILITARY CAREER SAVED ME
IN MANY REGARDS. >> HOW SO? >> IT GOT ME OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT FROM THE U.K. PRESS.
I WAS ABLE TO FOCUS ON A PURPOSE LARGER THAN MYSELF TO BE WEARING THE SAME UNIFORM AS EVERYBODY ELSE, TO FEEL NORMAL FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE AND ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT I EVER HAD. WAS TRYING TO BECOME AN APACHE
HELICOPTER PILOT. >> IT DOESN'T GIVE A CRAP WHO YOU ARE. >> THERE'S NO PRINCE OUTO PILOT
BUTTON YOU CAN PRESS AND TAKES YOU AWAY. I WAS A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE MILITARY.
I WAS A YOUNG MAN IN MY 20s SUFFERING FROM SHOCK, BUT I WAS NOW IN THE FRONT SEAT OF AN APACHE SHOOTING AND MONITORING
FOUR RADIOS SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND BEING THERE TO SAVE AND HELP ANYBODY THAT WAS ON THE GROUND WITH A RADIO SCREAMING WE NEED
SUPPORT, WE NEED AIR SUPPORT. THAT WAS MY CALLING. I FELT HEALING FROM THAT, WEIRDLY.
>> AND THAT MULTITASKING, THE BRAIN WORK OF THAT, THAT FELT GOOD TO YOU? >> IT FELT LIKE I WAS TURNING
PAIN INTO A PURPOSE. I DIDN'T HAVE THE AWARENESS AT THE TIME THAT I WAS LIVING MY LIFE IN ADRENALINE.
AND THAT WAS THE CASE FROM AGE 12, FROM THE MOMENT I WAS TOLD THAT MY MOM HAD DIED. >> YOU SAY WAR DIDN'T BEGIN IN
AFGHANISTAN, IT BEGAN IN AUGUST 1997. >> YEAH, THE WAR FOR ME UNKNOWINGLY WAS WHEN MY MOM
DIED. >> WHO WERE YOU FIGHTING? >> MYSELF. >> I HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF
FRUSTRATION AND BLAME TOWARDS THE BRITISH PRESS FOR THEIR PART IN IT. >> EVEN AT 12, I MEAN AT THAT
YOUNG YOU WERE FEELING THAT TOWARD THE BRITISH PRESS? >> YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS OBVIOUS TO US AS KIDS THE BRITISH PRESS'
PART IN OUR MOTHER'S MISERY, AND I HAD A LOT OF ANGER INSIDE OF ME THAT LUCKILY I NEVER EXPRESSED TO ANYBODY.
BUT I RESORTED TO DRINKING HEAVILY BECAUSE I WANTED TO NUMB THE FEELING OR I WANTED TO DISTRACT MYSELF FROM WHATEVER I
WAS THINKING. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESORT TO DRUGS AS WELL. >> HARRY ADMITS HE SMOKED POT
AND USED COCAINE AND WRITES IN HIS LATE 20s HE FELT HOPELESS AND LOST. >> THERE WAS THIS WEIGHT ON MY
CHEST THAT I FELT FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND I WAS NEVER ABLE TO CRY. SO I WAS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO
FIND A WAY TO CRY, BUT IN EVEN SITTING ON MY SOFA AND GOING OVER AS MANY MEMORIES AS I COULD MUSTER UP ABOUT MY MOM, AND
SOMETIMES I WATCH VIDEOS ONLINE. >> OF YOUR MOM. >> OF MY MOM. >> HOPING TO CRY.
>> YEP. >> AND YOU COULDN'T. >> I COULDN'T. >> HE SOUGHT OUT HELP FROM A
THERAPIST FOR THE FIRST TIME SEVEN YEARS AGO AND REVEALS HE'S ALSO TRIED MORE EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENTS.
>> YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK ABOUT PSYCHEDELICS, PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM. >> I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND
PEOPLE TO DO THIS RECREATIONALLY, BUT DOING IT WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE IF YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM A HUGE AMOUNT OF
LOSS, GRIEF, OR TRAUMA, THEN THESE THINGS HAVE A WAY OF WORKING AS A MEDICINE. >> THEY SHOWED YOU SOMETHING.
WHAT DID THEY SHOW YOU? >> FOR ME THEY CLEARED THE WIND SCREEN, THE MISERY OF LOSS. THEY CLEARED AWAY THIS IDEA THAT
I HAD MY HEAD THAT MY MOTHER -- THAT I NEEDED TO CRY TO PROVE TO MY MOTHER THAT I MISSED HER, WHEN, IN FACT, WHAT SHE WANTED
WAS FOR ME TO BE HAPPY. >> PRINCE HARRY SAYS HE'S FOUND THAT HAPPINESS WITH HIS WIFE IN CALIFORNIA, BUT AS YOU'LL HEAR
IN A MOMENT HE'S FAR FROM AT PEACE WITH THE ROYAL FAMILY.
>>> PRINCE HARRY'S MEMOIR "SPIRE" IS ANYTHING BUT SPARE IN ITS UNFLATTERING PORTRAYAL OF THE ROYAL FAMILY ESPECIALLY HIS
STEPMOTHER CAMILA, NOW THE QUEEN CONSORT. SHE MARRIED THEN PRINCE CHARLES IN 2005 THOUGH THE TWO HAD BEEN
ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED ON AND OFF FOR DECADES. WHEN PRINCESS DIANA FAMOUSLY REFERRED TO CAMILA AS THE THIRD
PERSON IN HER MARRIAGE THE BRITISH TABLOIDS RAN WITH IT, AND PRINCE HARRY HAS NEVER FORGOTTEN.
>> SHE WAS THE VILLAIN. SHE WAS THE THIRD PERSON IN THE MARRIAGE. SHE NEEDED TO REHABILITATE HER
IMAGE. >> YOU AND YOUR BROTHER BOTH DIRECTLY ASKED YOUR DAD NOT TO MARRY CUAMILA.
>> YES. >> WHY? >> WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY.
WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD AND THAT IF HE WAS NOW WITH HIS PERSON THAT SURELY THAT'S
ENOUGH. WHY GO THAT FAR WHEN YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO? WE WANTED HIM TO BE HAPPY, AND
WE SAW HOW HAPPY HE WAS WITH HER, SO AT THE TIME IT WAS, OKAY. >> YOU WROTE SHE STARTED A
CAMPAIGN IN THE BRITISH PRESS TO PAVE THE WAY FOR A MARRIAGE, AND YOU WROTE I EVEN WANTED CAMILA TO BE HAPPY, MAYBE SHE'D BE LESS
DANGEROUS IF SHE WAS HAPPY. HOW WAS SHE DANGEROUS? >> BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR HER TO REHABILITATE HER IMAGE.
>> THAT MADE HER DANGEROUS. >> THAT MADE HER DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF CONNECTIONS SHE WAS FORGING WITHIN THE BRITISH
PRESS. AND THERE WAS OPEN WILLINGNESS ON BOTH SIDES TO TRADE INFORMATION.
AND WITH A FAMILY BUILT ON HIAHIRY HIERARCHY THERE WERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE AND BODIES LEFT IN THE
STREET BECAUSE OF THAT. >> HARRY SAYS OVER THE YEARS HE WAS ONE OF THOSE BODIES. HE ACCUSES CAMILA AND EVEN HIS
FATHER AT TIMES OF USING HIM OR WILLIAM TO GET BETTER TABLOID COVERAGE FOR THEMSELVES. PRINCE HARRY WRITES, CAMILA,
QUOTE, SACRIFICED ME ON HER PERSONAL PR ALTER. >> IF YOU ARE LED TO BELIEVE AS A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY THAT
BEING ON THE FRONT PAGE, HAVING POSITIVE HEADLINES, POSITIVE STORIES WRITTEN ABOUT YOU IS GOING TO IMPROVE YOUR REPUTATION
OR INCREASE YOUR CHANCES OF YOU BEING ACCEPTED AS MONARCH BY THE BRITISH PUBLIC, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
ZBLIN IZBOOK HARRY WRITES WHEN HE WAS INTRODUCED TO MEGHAN MARKLE IN 2016 HIS FATHER INITIALLY TOOK A LIKING TO HER
BUT WILLIAM WAS DISDAINFUL REFERRING TO HER AS AN AMERICAN ACTRESS. OTHERS WERE UNEASY AS WELL.
>> AND THE U.K. PRESS JUMPED ON THAT. >> AND WHAT WAS THAT BASED ON, THAT DISTRUST?
>> THE FACT THAT SHE WAS AMERICAN, AN ACTRESS, DIVORCED, BLACK, BIRACIAL WITH A BLACK MOTHER.
THOSE WERE JUST FOUR OF THE TYPICAL STEREOTYPES THAT BECOMES A FEEDING FRENZY FOR THE BRITISH PRESS.
>> BUT ALL THOSE THINGS WITHIN THE FAMILY ALSO WERE SOURCES OF MISTRUST. >> YES.
YOU KNOW MY FAMILY READ THE TABLOIDS. IT'S LAID OUT AT BREAKFAST WHEN EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER.
SO WHETHER YOU WALK AROUND SAYING YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S STILL -- IT'S STILL LEAVING AN IMPRINT IN YOUR MIND.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT JUDGMENT BASED ON A STEREOTYPE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO GET OVER THAT.
AND A LARGE PART OF IT FOR THE FAMILY BUT ALSO THE BRITISH PRESS AND NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE LIKE HE'S CHANGED, SHE MUST BE A
WITCH. HE'S CHANGED. AS OPPOSED TO, YEAH, I DID CHANGE, AND I'M REALLY GLAD I
CHANGED. BECAUSE RATHER THAN GETTING DRUNK, FALLING OUT OF CLUBS, TAKING DRUGS I'VE NOW FOUND THE
LOVE OF MY LIFE, AND I NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START A FAMILY WITH HER. >> SOON AFTER THEIR RELATIONSHIP
BECAME PUBLIC HARRY INSISTED ON PUTTING OUT A STATEMENT CONDEMNING SOME OF THE TABLOID COVERAGE OF MEGHAN AND WHAT HE
CALL, QUOTE, THE RACIAL UNDERTONES OF COMMENT PIECES. YOU WRITE YOUR DAD AND YOUR BROTHER WILLIAM WERE FURIOUS
WITH YOU FOR DOING THAT. WHY? >> THEY FELT AS THOUGH IT MADE THEM LOOK BAD.
THEY FELT AS THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE OR WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THEIR PARTNERS. WHAT MEGHAN TO GO THROUGH WAS
SIMILAR IN SOME PART TO WHAT KATE AND WHAT CAMILA WENT THROUGH, VERY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT THEN YOU ADD IN THE RACE ELEMENT, WHICH WAS WHAT THE PRESS, THE BRITISH PRESS JUMPED ON STRAIGHTAWAY.
I HAD NO IDEA THE BRITISH PRESS WERE SO BIGOTED. HELL, I WAS PROBABLY BIGOTED. >> YOU --
>> THE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEGHAN. >> YOU THINK YOU WERE BIGOTED BEFORE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEGHAN?
>> I DON'T KNOW. PUT IT THIS WAY, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT I NOW SEE. >> THEY WERE MARRIED IN MAY 2018
IN A CEREMONY THAT SEEMED TO PROMISE A MORE MODERN AND INCLUSIVE ROYAL FAMILY, AND GIVEN THE TITLES DUKE AND
DUCHESS OF SUSSEX. BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, ACCORDING TO HARRY, WILLIAM'S MISTRUST OF MEGHAN ONLY WORSENED.
>> DID YOU EVER TRY TO MEET WITH WILLIAM AND KATE TO TRY TO DIFFUSE THE TENSION IN. >> YEAH.
>> HOW DID THAT MEETING GO? >> NOT PARTICULARLY WELL. >> IN EARLY 2019 HARRY WRITES THE RANCOR BETWEEN WILLIAM AND
HIM EXPLODED AT HARRY'S COTTAGE ON THE GROUNDS OF KENSINGTON PALACE. YOUR ARGUMENTS FOR YOUR BROTHER
BECAME PHYSICAL. >> IT WAS A BUILD UP OF FRUSTRATION, I THINK, ON HIS PART.
IT WAS AT A TIME WHERE HE WAS BEING TOLD CERTAIN THINGS BY PEOPLE WITHIN HIS OFFICE, AND AT THE SAME TIME HE WAS CONSUMING A
LOT OF THE TABLOID PRESS, A LOT OF THE STORIES. AND HE HAD A FEW ISSUES WHICH WERE BASED NOT ON REALITY.
AND I WAS DEFENDING MY WIFE, AND HE WAS COMING FOR MY WIFE. SHE WASN'T THERE AT THE TIME, BUT THROUGH THE THINGS THAT HE
WAS SAYING I WAS DEFENDING MYSELF AND WE'D MOVE FROM ONE ROOM INTO THE KITCHEN AND HIS FRUSTRATIONS WERE GROWING AND
GROWING AND GROWING. HE WAS SHOUTING AT ME, I WAS SHOUTING BACK AT HIM. IT WASN'T NICE.
IT WASN'T PLEASANT AT ALL, AND HE SNAPPED AND HE PUSHED ME TO THE FLOOR. >> HE KNOCKED YOU OVER?
>> HE KNOCKED ME OVER. I LANDED ON -- >> YOU CUT YOUR BACK. >> YEAH, I CUT MY BACK.
I DIDN'T KNOW AT IT THE TIME, BUT HE APOLOGIZED AFTERWARDS. IT WAS A PRETTY NASTY EXPERIENCE.
>> HE ASKED YOU NOT TO TELL ANYBODY, NOT TO TELL MEGHAN. >> AND I WOULDN'T UNTIL SHE SAW IT ON MY BACK.
SHE WAS LIKE WHAT WAS THAT, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I LOOKED IN AM MIRROR AND I WAS
LIKE [ BLEEP ] BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN IT. >> MEGHAN HAS SAID CONSTANT CRITICISM AND PRESSURE LED HER
IN THE WINTER OF 2019 TO CONTEMPLATE SUICIDE. >> THE THING THAT TERRIFIED ME THE MOST WAS HISTORY REPEATING
ITSELF. >> YOU REALLY FEARED THAT YOUR WIFE MEGHAN -- >> YES, I FEARED A LOT THE END
RESULT. THE FACT THAT I LOST MY MOM WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD COULD EASILY HAPPEN AGAIN TO MY WIFE.
>> IN JANUARY 2020 PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN ANNOUNCED THEY INTENDED TO IN THEIR WORDS STEP BACK AS SENIOR MEMBERS OF IT
ROYAL FAMILY. THEY MOVED TO CALIFORNIA THREE MONTHS LATER. THEN THERE WAS THE HEADLINE
GRABBING INTERVIEW WITH OPRAH WINFREY AND A DEAL WITH NETFLIX WORTH A REPORTED $100 MILLION. CRITICS SAY THE DUKE AND DUCHESS
ARE CASHING IN ON THEIR ROYAL TITLES WHILE THEY STILL CAN. >> WHY NOT RENOUNCE YOUR TITLES AS DUKE AND DUCHESS?
>> AND WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD THAT MAKE? >> ONE OF THE CRITICISMS YOU'VE RECEIVED IS THAT, OKAY, FINE YOU
WANT TO MOVE TO CALIFORNIA, YOU WANT TO STEP BACK FROM THE INSTITUTIONAL ROLE. WHY BE SO PUBLIC?
WHY REVEAL CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH YOUR FATHER OR WITH YOUR BROTHER? YOU SAY YOU TRIED TO DO THIS
PRIVATELY -- >> AND EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE TRIED TO DO IT PRIVATELY THERE WOULD BE BRIEFINGS AND LEAKINGS
AND PLANTINGS OF STORIES AGAINST ME AND MY WIFE. THE FAMILY MOTTO IS NEVER COMPLAIN, NEVER COMPLAIN.
BUT IT'S JUST A MOTTO -- >> THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINING AND A LOT OF EXPLAINING BEING DONE THROUGH LEAKS.
>> THROUGH LEAKS. >> PRINCE HARRY CONTINUES TO CLAIM HE WOULD NEVER LEAK AGAINST HIS FAMILY.
>> SO NOW TRYING TO SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT PERHAPS THEY UNDERSTAND I WILL SIT HERE AND SPEAK TRUTH TO YOU WITH THE
WORDS THAT COME OUT OF MY MOUTH RATHER THAN USING SOMEONE ELSE, UN AN UNNAMED SOURCE, TO FEED IN
LIES OR NARRATIVE TO A TABLOID MEDIA THAT LITERALLY RADICALIZES ITS READERS TO THEN POTENTIALLY CAUSE HARM TO MY FAMILY, MY
WIFE, MY KIDS. >> LAST MONTH THE BRITISH TABLOID "THE SUN" PUBLISHED A VICIOUS COMMENT ABOUT MEGHAN
WRITTEN BY A TV HOST. >> HE SAID I HATE HER. AT NIGHT I'M UNABLE TO SLEEP AS I LIE THERE GRINDING MY TEETH
AND DREAMING OF THE DAY WHERE SHE'S MADE TO WALK NAKED THROUGH THE STREETS OF EVERY TOWN IN BRITAIN WHILE THE CROWDS SHOUT
SHAME AND THROW EXCREMENT AT HER. DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU? >> DOES IT SURPRISE ME, NO.
IS IT SHOCKING, YES. THANK YOU FOR PROVING OUR POINT. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY RESPONSE FROM THE PALACE?
>> NO. AND THERE COMES A POINT WHERE SILENCE IS BETRAYAL. >> HARRY HAS BEEN BACK IN THE
UNITED KINGDOM. HE WAS IN LONDON LAST SEPTEMBER FOR A CHARITY EVENT WHEN THE PALACE ANNOUNCED HIS
GRANDMOTHER, THE QUEEN, WAS UNDER MEDICAL SUPERVISION AT BALMORAL CASTLE IN SCOTLAND. >> I ASKED MY BROTHER, I SAID
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS, HOW ARE YOU AND KATE GETTING UP THERE. AND A COUPLE HOURS LATER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS
THAT LIVE WITHIN THE WINDSOR AND ASCOT AREA WERE JUMPING ON A PLANE TOGETHER, A PLANE WITH 12, 14, MAYBE 15 SEATS.
>> YOU WERE NOT INVITED ON THAT PLANE. >> I WAS NOT INVITED. >> BY THE TIME HARRY GOT TO
MALMORAL ON HIS OWN THE QUEEN WAS DEAD. >> I WALKED INTO THE HALL AND MY AUNT WAS THERE TO GREET ME, AND
SHE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO SEE HER. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR 5 SECONDS IS THIS A GOOD IDEA, AND I SAID
YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN DO THIS. YOU NEED TO SAY GOOD-BYE. SO I WENT UPSTAIRS, TOOK MY JACKET OFF AND WALKED IN AND
JUST SPENT SOME TIME WITH HER ALONE. >> WHERE WAS SHE? >> SHE WAS IN HER BEDROOM.
I WAS REALLY HAPPY FOR HER BECAUSE SHE FINISHED LIFE. SHE COMPLETED LIFE, AND HER HUSBAND WAS WAITING FOR HER, AND
THE TWO OF THEM WERE BURIED TOGETHER. >> AS THEY HAD 25 YEARS EARLIER, HARRY AND WILLIAM FOUND
THEMSELVES WALKING TOGETHER BUT APART THIS TIME BEHIND THEIR GRANDMOTHER'S CASKET. >> DO YOU SPEAK TO WILLIAM NOW?
DO YOU TEXT? >> CURRENTLY NO. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO US BEING ABLE TO FIND PEACE.
>> HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE YOU SPOKE? >> A WHILE. >> DO YOU SPEAK TO YOUR DAD?
>> WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN FOR QUITE A WHILE. NOT RECENTLY. >> CAN YOU SEE A DAY WHEN YOU
WOULD RETURN AS A FULL-TIME MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY? >> NO. I CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
>> IN THE BOOK YOU CALLED THIS A FULL-SCALE RUPTURE. CAN IT BE HEALED? >> YES.
THE BALL IS VERY MUCH IN THEIR COURT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MEGHAN AND I HAVE CONTINUED TO SAY WE WILL OPENLY APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING WE
DID WRONG. BUT ANYTIME WE ASK THAT QUESTION NO ONE IS TELLING US THE SPECIFICS OF ANYTHING.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION, ONE THAT CAN HAPPEN IN PRIVATE THAT DOESN'T GET LEAKED.
>> I ASSUME THEY WOULD SAY, WELL, HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU, HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REVEAL ANY CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE
IN AN INTERVIEW SOMEWHERE? >> THIS ALL STARTED WITH THEM BRIEFING DAILY AGAINST MY WIFE WITH LIES TO THE POINT OF WHERE
MY WIFE AND I HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM OUR -- FROM MY COUNTRY. >> IT'S HARD I THINK FOR ANYBODY TO IMAGINE A FAMILY DYNAMIC THAT
IS SO "GAME OF THRONES" WITHOUT DRAGONS. >> I DON'T WATCH "GAME OF THRONES" BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY
DRAGONS, AND THAT'S AGAIN THE THIRD PARTY WHICH IS THE BRITISH PRESS. SO ULTIMATELY WITHOUT THE
BRITISH PRESS AS PART OF THIS, WE WOULD STILL BE A FAIRLY DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY LIKE A LOT ARE, BUT AT THE HEART OF IT
THERE IS A FAMILY WITHOUT QUESTION. AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT FAMILY ELEMENT BACK.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY BROTHER. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER AND
OTHER MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY. >> YOU WANT THAT. >> THAT'S ALL I'VE EVER ASKED FOR.
>> WE REACHED OUT TO BUCKINGHAM PALACE FOR COMMENT. ITS REPRESENTATIVES DEMANDED BEFORE CONSIDERING RESPONDING
"60 MINUTES" PROVIDE THEM WITH OUR REPORT PRIOR TO AIRING IT TONIGHT, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE NEVER DO.
>>> PRINCE HARRY ON HOW BEING A FATHER HELPS HIM UNDERSTAND HIS OWN MOTHER. >> I'M STARTING TO COMPREHEND
THE POSITION THAT SHE WAS >>> MUSIC AND THE BACKGROUND OF A MOVIE IS OFTEN CRUCIAL TO HOW WE EXPERIENCE THE FILM.
IN SOME CASES IT CAN BECOME AS MEMORABLE AS THE MOVIE ITSELF. THINK OF THE SCREAMING VIOLINS IN "PSYCHO" OR THE HAUNTING TUBA
IN "JAWS." THE LATTER WRITTEN BY JOHN WILLIAMS WHO FOR MORE THAN A GENERATION WAS HOLLYWOOD'S
LEADING COMPOSER. BUT OVER THE YEARS AS DIRECTORS IN STUDIOS BEGAN TO LOOK FOR EDGIER SCORES, THEY HAVE
INCREASINGLY TURNED TO ONE GERMAN BORN COMPOSER NAMED HANS ZIMMER. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE MOVIES IN
THE PAST 40 YEARS YOU'VE HEARD A HANS ZIMMER SCORE, ACTION, DRAMA, COMEDY, ROMANCE, BLOCKBUSTERS.
HE'S DONE THEM ALL. INCLUDING THE 1994 FILM "THE LION KING," WHICH HE WON AN OSCAR FOR WITH ITS OPENING ZULU
CHANT. SUNG BY LEBO M., A SOUTH AFRICAN MUSICIAN WHO WAS WORKING AT A CAR WASH IN LOS ANGELES WHEN
HANS ENLISTED HIM. >> THAT'S HOW THAT OPENING CHANT CAME ABOUT LITERALLY, MICROPHONE IN THE ROOM, NOT IN A BOOTH LIKE
THIS. >> HANS TOLD THE EXECUTIVES AT DISNEY THAT HE WANTED TO SAY RIGHT OFF THE BAT THIS IS NOT A
TYPICAL DISNEY MOVIE. IT'S A FATHER-SON STORY THAT TAKES PLACE IN AFRICA. >> THEY SAID, EXACTLY, THAT'S
GOOD. DO WHAT YOU DO. >> HE SHOWED US WHAT HE DOES AT HIS STUDIO IN LOS ANGELES WHERE
HE COMPOSES HIS SCORES ON THIS KEYBOARD AND COMPUTER. FOR EXAMPLE, THE MUSIC FOR THE FIRST "PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN"
MOVIE. >> SO IF YOU HAVE PIRATES, WHICH IS BASICALLY THIS SORT OF A THING, THERE'S A JAUNTINESS,
RIGHT? >> YEAH. >> I MEAN -- THE MUSIC IS REALLY BIG AND HE'S IN A LITTLE ROW
BOAT WITH A LITTLE SAIL AND YOU HEAR THIS HUGE ORCHESTRA. BECAUSE THAT'S THE MUSIC HE HEARS IN HIS HEAD BECAUSE HE'S
THE GREATEST PIRATE THAT HAS EVER LIVED IN HIS IMAGINATION. SO WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE JOKER HE'S QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
IT'S A BOW ON A BOW AND ARROW, AND YOU STRETCH IT AND IT'S NOT PRETTY. >> WHY SO SERIOUS?
>> IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL INDUCING. I CAN'T EVEN EXPRESS WHY. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT WORDS TO IT.
>> THAT'S THE IDEA. AT MY BEST WORDS WILL FAIL YOU BECAUSE I'M USING MY OWN LANGUAGE.
>> SINCE THE 1980s HANS ZIMMER'S LANGUAGE IN HIS SCORES LIKE LAST YEAR'S BIGGEST HIT, "TOP GUN: MAVERICK," HAS DEFINED NOT JUST
THE CHARACTERS BUT HAS HELPED TELL THE STORIES OF CHEST THUMPING ACTION FILMS AND SCI-FI EPICS LIKE "DUNE," WHICH HE WON
AN OSCAR FOR IN 2022 IN WHICH HE USED JUDDERING DRUMS AND ELECTRONIC SYNTHESIZERS. SO YOU'VE BEEN CALLED A
MAVERICK. YOU'VE BEEN CALLED A VISIONARY. HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF? >> I WOULD DESCRIBE MYSELF AS
SOMEBODY WHO'S DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH MUSIC AND DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH MOVIES AND PLAYFUL. I LOVE TO PLAY, LIKE, AS ANY
MUSICIAN DOES, AS IN ANY LANGUAGE. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU PLAY MUSIC.
>> HIS CHOICES HAVE BEEN UNPREDICTABLE. FOR EVERY MAN OF STEEL, THERE'S A KUNG FU PANDA AND A SHERLOCK
HOLMES IN WHICH HE USED A BROKEN PIANO AND BANJOS FOR THE 19th CENTURY DETECTIVE TURNED QUIRKY ACTION HERO.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THE INSTRUMENT TO GETTING WHAT YOU WANT? >> VASTLY IMPORTANT. I MEAN BECAUSE INSTRUMENTS COME
WITH BAGGAGE. YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE THE DEFINITION OF A GENTLEMAN IS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS HOW TO PLAY
THE BANJO BUT REFRAINS FROM DOING SO. WHY THAT BANJO WORKED, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT WAS FUNNY.
>> HE HAS USED BANJOS, BAGPIPES, BUZZING ELECTRONICS, AND THIS -- A GOOD OLD-FASHIONED ORCHESTRA. THINK ABOUT THE COMPOSER OF "THE
DARK KNIGHT" WRITING SOMETHING THIS DELICATE. HE INVITED US TO WATCH HIM RECORD THE SCORE OF A NEW MOVIE
IN A LONDON STUDIO LAST SUMMER. IT'S ABOUT A YOUNG GIRL COMING OF AGE BASED ON A JUDY BLUM BOOK THAT WILL BE RELEASED IN
THEATERS THIS SPRING. >> YOU LIKE THE SOUND? >> MM-HMM. >> ACADEMY AWARD WINNING
DIRECTOR JIM BROOKS IS A PRODUCER OF THIS MOVIE. THIS IS THE EIGHTH FILM THEY'VE WORKED ON TOGETHER.
>> VERY NICE. >> WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT HANS, SAYS BROOKS AND OTHER DIRECTORS, IS HOW DEEPLY INVOLVED HE GETS
IN MORE THAN JUST WRITING THE MUSIC. HIS PROCESS TYPICALLY BEGINS WITH A CONVERSATION WITH THE
DIRECTOR LONG BEFORE A SINGLE FRAME OF THE MOVIE IS SHOT. >> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE MOVIE IS ABOUT, THE STORY OF IT,
WHAT THE SCENE'S ABOUT. YOU DON'T TURN TO A COMPOSER. >> SO HE BECOMES ALMOST A PARTNER IN THE WRITING AND THE
DIRECTING? >> YEAH, YEAH. >> OF EVERYTHING. ON GLADIATOR HE PARTNERED WITH
DIRECTOR RIDLEY SCOTT. HE SAYS HE TOLD HIM HE THOUGHT THIS MOVIE SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST ABOUT A MAN IN A SKIRT
GOING INTO BATTLE. >> AND I FELT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING WE NEEDED TO SETUP THE POSSIBILITY THAT IN THIS MOVIE
WE COULD HAVE POETRY. >> COULD WE LISTEN TO JUST A BIT OF THE MOVIE THAT YOU WROTE -- >> STARTS OFF WITH JUST THIS
NOTE. >> AND YOU SEE THE HAND. >> AND YOU SEE THE HAND AND YOU'RE ALREADY IN A DIFFERENT
WORLD. >> AND THERE'S NO ONE TALKING. >> YOU LEFT THE 20th CENTURY. YOU DON'T EXPECT THE TENDERNESS.
>> I MEAN, YOU ARE SETTING A MOOD. >> IT'S A CRY. IT'S A CRY.
>> HIS LOVE OF MUSIC, HIS OBSESSION, GREW OUT OF HIS CHILDHOOD IN WEST GERMANY. WHILE OTHER KIDS LIKED TO PLAY
GAMES, HE LIKED TO PLAY THE PIANO. SO DID YOU TAKE PIANO LESSONS? >> ABSOLUTELY.
IT WAS TWO WEEKS OF ABSOLUTE TORTURE. >> TWO WEEKS? >> WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE I WENT TO
MY MOTHER AND SAID IT'S EITHER HIM OR ME, AND LUCKILY MY MOTHER MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. SHE KEPT ME.
NO, NO, I DROVE HIM CRAZY. I'M 6 YEARS OLD SO MY IDEA WAS A PIANO TEACHER IS SOMEBODY WHO TEACHES YOU HOW TO -- THE STUFF
THAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD HOW TO GET THAT INTO YOUR FINGERS. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. THEY MAKE YOU DO SCALES, PLAY
OTHER PEOPLES MUSIC. AND I DON'T WANT TO PLAY OTHER PEOPLES MUSIC. >> RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.
BUT I PROMISE YOU I KNOW MY BEETHOVEN AND MY BRMS INSIDE OUT.
>> HE LEARNED ABOUT THEM FROM HIS MOTHER, A CLASSICALLY TRAINED PIANIST. >> IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS WORKDAY
I'D BE BANGING AROUND AND WE'D BE JAMMING, YOU KNOW? >> INSTEAD OF COLLEGE HE BECAME A ROCK AND ROLLER PERFORMING.
HE'S THAT YOUNG GUY IN THE BLACK JACKET WITH THE SYNTHESIZER. THEY MADE POP HISTORY IN 1991 WITH THE FIRST MUSIC VIDEO TO
AIR ON MTV. HE BEGAN COMPOSING SCORES FOR LOW BUDGET FILMS, ONE OF WHICH IN 19 88 CAUGHT THE ATTENTION O
THE HOLLYWOOD DIRECTOR BARRY LEVINSON -- SO THIS IS WHERE IT ALL BEGAN -- WHO SHOWED UP ONE NIGHT OUT OF THE BLUE AT THE
STUDIO. >> HE SAID WOULD I MIND COMING TO LOS ANGELES AND DOING HIS MOVIE.
SO OFF I WENT TO LOS ANGELES AND I GOT NOMINATED FOR AN OSCAR. >> FIRST MOVIE -- >> FIRST MOVIE.
BUT I DIDN'T WIN AND I DIDN'T MATTER BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTED TO MEET ME. >> THAT FILM WAS NO LESS THAN
"RAIN MAN," WHICH LED TO "DRIVING MISS DAISY" "THELMA AND LOUISE," "BLACK RAIN" AND MORE THAN 40 OTHER FILM THAT BEGAN TO
PUSH THE SOUND OF MUSIC INTO A NEW DIRECTION. >> I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE ELECTRONICS THAT YOU SHAPE
SOUNDS IN A WAY THAT GO BEYOND THE WAY AN ORCHESTRA CAN. HE BECAME A PIONEER INFUSING ELECTRONICS WITH ORC CENTRAL
MUSIC, USING HIS SECRET WEAPON, A DIGITAL LIBRARY THAT HE BUILT HIMSELF WITH ORIGINAL COMPUTER CODE.
HE PAINSTAKINGLY RECORDED EACH INSTRUMENT IN A REAL ORCHESTRA NOTE BY NOTE USING WORLD CLASS MUSICIANS AND THE FINEST
INSTRUMENTS, AND LOADING IT ALL INTO HIS COMPUTER. TAKE A VIOLIN AND YOU HAVE THE VIOLIN PLAY MIDDLE C, AND THEN
YOU HAVE THAT INSTRUMENT PLAY MIDDLE C, LOUD, SOFT, AND ALL DIFFERENT. >> OH, YEAH.
LOOK, LOOK. IT CAN PLAY SHORT. >> SO YOU'RE NOT MAKING IT PICCATO.
THEY PLAY IT THAT WAY. THAT MUST HAVE TAKEN MONTHS. >> IT'S ACTUALLY TAKEN YEARS. >> AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
HE DOESN'T WRITE OUT HIS COMPOSITIONS ON PAPER. HIS COMPUTER DOES IT FOR HIM, AND IT HELPS CREATE THE
UNCONVENTIONAL SOUND YOU'D FIND IN HIS SCORES. SCRAPING METAL. >> YEAH.
>> AND ELECTRONIC THUDS. MUSIC? >> IT CAN BE. EVERYTHING CAN BE MADE TO BE A
MUSICAL INSTRUMENT IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. >> HE OFTEN COLLABORATES WITH PEDRO EUSTACHE, A WORLD CLASS
FLAUTIST WHO HAS BUILT CONTRAPTIONS THAT PRODUCE UNUSUAL SOUNDS THAT HANS THINKS UP FOR HIS MOVIES.
>> THIS IS AN OSTRICH EGG, OKAY. >> THAT'S AN OSTRICH EGG. YOU PUT A HOLE IN. >> LET ME EXPLAIN.
HE'S NOT STEALING EGGS AT THE ZOO. HE'S A VERY GOOD CUSTOMER OF HOME DEPOT AND SO MANY OF HIS
INSTRUMENTS ARE MADE OUT OF PVC PIPING. >> PEDRO ACTUALLY USED PVC PIPING TO COME UP WITH THIS
21-LONG FOOT HORN THAT HANS WANTED FOR "DUNE." HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON "DUNE PART 2."
AND NOW HE GOES ON TOUR WITH A 38-PIECE ORCHESTRA AND BAND TO PERFORM HIS MOVIE SCORES. HOW HAVE YOU CHANGED?
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR 40 YEARS. >> I TELL YOU WHAT. SO WHEN YOU START OUT YOU HAVE
ALL THAT STUFF THAT YOU'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE. EVERY MOVIE HAD EVERY IDEA, EVERY DEVICE, EVERY CHORD
CHANGE, EVERY WHATEVER IN IT. NOW I THINK IT'S MORE FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO NEW, BUT IT BECOMES HARDER AND HARDER
BECAUSE I'VE USED UP SO MUCH IN THE PAST. >> HE TOLD US AFTER MORE THAN 150 FILMS HE LIVES IN CONSTANT
FEAR OF THE DAY HIS PHONE WILL STOP RINGING. EVEN AFTER 150 DO YOU THINK YOU'RE MOTIVATED BY THAT FEAR?
>> BUT IT'S ONLY 150, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE WHAT IF 151 IS A COMPLETE DISASTER?
YOU KNOW, I'M STILL ALIVE. I'M 65 YEARS OLD NOW AND PEOPLE ARE GOING ARE YOU GOING TO RETIRE, ARE YOU GOING TO PUT
YOUR FEET UP. AND I GO, NO, I'M FULL OF IDEAS. I'M JUST GETTING STARTED.