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ANNOUNCER: Coming
to you from New
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America, it's The Daily Show.
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Tonight, will the
trains go on strike,
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the latest supernatural
trend, and Pam Grier.
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This is The Daily
Show with Trevor Noah.
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What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to The Daily Show.
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I'm Trevor Noah.
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Thank you so much
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Thank you for coming
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Thank you so much
for being here.
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Thank you so much
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We have got a great
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Take a seat, everybody.
Take a seat.
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Let's get into this.
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Elon Musk is going
to war with Apple.
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We find out what virus
will kill you next.
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And Joe Biden is
working on the railroad.
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Plus the legendary
Pam Grier is joining
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us on the show, everybody.
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So let's do this, people.
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Let's jump straight
into today's headlines.
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All right.
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Before we get into
the big stories,
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let's catch up on a few other
things going on in the world.
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We kick things off
with the World Cup,
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where the United States has
moved on to the round of 16
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after defeating Iran, 1-0.
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Yes, it's such an
amazing win for them.
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It means that they
go to the next round,
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and they now get to say
"I-ran" instead of "Ee-ran."
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In Hawaii, the world's
largest active volcano
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has just begun erupting for
the first time in 38 years,
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which is a shame,
another brother
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fallen during no-nut November.
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It was so close, man.
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It was so close.
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In other science news,
researchers have now
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reanimated a
so-called zombie virus
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that has lain dormant
under the Arctic ice
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for nearly 50,000 years.
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Yeah, now the good news is
that Joe Biden is immune.
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He already had it as a kid.
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And I know.
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I know a lot of
people are worried.
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They're like, why
are we doing this?
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It's dangerous to mess
with viruses this way.
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But think about it, people.
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It's actually pretty smart
because these viruses are
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eventually going to emerge
anyway when the ice caps melt.
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So the quicker we
can learn about them,
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the quicker we can make a
vaccine that no one will take.
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Oh, and in some legal
news, a Florida woman
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is suing Kraft Foods over
its microwave mac and cheese,
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arguing that while the box says
it's ready in three and a half
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minutes, that doesn't
include the amount of time
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it takes to add the water,
and then wait for the sauce
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to thicken.
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And you can laugh,
but she's right.
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I mean, the box doesn't
even include the time
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it takes for me to
cry over the fact
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that I have to eat Kraft
mac and cheese for dinner.
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That's another 45 minutes.
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And, you know,
stories like this
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make you think about it must
be so hard for the lawyer who
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works on a case
like this to discuss
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their work with their peers.
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You know?
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Like, they're just
sitting in a room.
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It's like, I'm
working on a case
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to protect the right to
abortion in the South.
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Yeah, I'm working on
a case to shut down
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a company that's been poisoning
the water of poor communities.
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How about you, Allen?
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He's like, well, you
know how sometimes
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mac and cheese takes longer
to make than you expect?
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Well, let's move on to
some of the biggest stories
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of the day, starting with
the ongoing firestorm facing
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Donald Trump, former
president and host
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of the most disturbing dinner
since the one Jeffrey
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Dahmer had.
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Last week Trump ate
dinner at Mar-a-Lago
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with Kanye West and a
prominent white supremacist
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named Nick Fuentes.
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And we don't know exactly
what happened at that dinner
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except that nobody
ordered latkes.
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But, apparently, a
lot of Republicans
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don't think it's a great
look for the leader
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of their party to be
splitting apps with neo-Nazis.
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REPORTER: Donald Trump facing
growing backlash to his dinner
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last week with prominent white
nationalist Nick Fuentes.
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Republican politicians
now among those calling
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out the former President.
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I think there's--
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it's been clear that
there's no bottom
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to the degree to which
President Trump will degrade
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himself and the nation.
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Well, I think he can make
better choices, obviously.
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That was a bad decision.
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There's no place for that
in the Republican Party.
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President Trump was wrong
to give a white nationalist,
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an anti-Semite, and a Holocaust
denier a seat at the table.
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And I think he should
apologize for it,
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and he should denounce
those individuals
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and their hateful rhetoric
without qualification.
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Let me just say
that there is no
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room in the Republican
Party for anti-Semitism
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or white supremacy.
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(IMITATING MCCONNELL)
That's right.
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There's no room at all
because we're all ready full.
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I mean, we do have room for
someone who hates Dothrakis,
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but that would be a new one.
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You know, it's so funny
watching Republicans try
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to chastise Trump for hanging
out with someone who has
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the exact same views as him
without chastising Trump
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for having those views, right?
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Because here's the thing.
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I'm willing to believe--
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I'm willing to believe
that Trump didn't know
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who Nick Fuentes was when
he came to his dinner,
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as Trump says.
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I'm willing to believe that.
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But you've got to admit,
it says a lot about him
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that he enjoyed this man's
company and everything
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that he had to say.
Right?
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Like, if your friend brings
Darth Vader to your house
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for dinner, that's
not your fault.
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But 15 minutes in, any
decent person would be like,
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I'm not comfortable with
how much this guy talks
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about blowing up planets.
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Also, why is he wearing a mask?
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We've all been tested.
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[laughter]
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And it is nice.
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It is nice to see Republican
officials speak out
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against Trump for a change.
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But we all know how
this is going to end.
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Republicans get mad at
Trump for a little while,
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and then they always get back
together with him in the end.
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Trump scandals are basically
like Hallmark Movies.
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You know?
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Except Trump never
actually changes
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and becomes a better person.
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It's just like, Donald,
either you choose your career
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or you choose me.
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He's like, (IMITATING TRUMP)
well, I choose my career.
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OK, you can have
me, too, Donald.
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But let's move on to
some news about trains,
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or as I call them,
choo-choo trains.
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You may think about trains
as just a form of transport
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or a place where people
gather to solve murders,
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but they're not just that.
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It turns out that trains
are responsible for carrying
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billions of dollars in goods
across America every year.
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But over the past few
months, railroad workers
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have been trying to
negotiate better working
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conditions with the railroads.
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And the dispute
has gotten so bad
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that now President Biden,
Amtrak Joe himself,
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is stepping in.
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President Biden is
calling on Congress
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to avert a looming
rail strike and impose
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a settlement that some
Union members rejected.
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REPORTER: The
president's involvement
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signals a major shift for him
that could potentially pit
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him against his union allies.
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But right now, George, he says
that he was reluctant to get
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involved in this one.
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But the potential that this
could cripple the economy
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was just too much.
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A strike could threaten
everything from farming
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and food to crucial
chemicals for clean water,
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causing major supply
chain disruptions.
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Yeah, that's right.
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A railroad strike wouldn't
just inconvenience passengers.
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It would devastate
the entire economy,
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which you've got to admit
sounds weird in 2022, right?
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No, it does because
railroads feel so old-timey.
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You know, it's like, (OLD-TIMEY
ACCENT) on the railroad.
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And it's like it will
devastate the economy now.
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It's like finding
out you're losing
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your job because the Whale
Hunter's Union went on strike.
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You're like, but I
work on computers.
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Yeah, well, actually, the
internet runs on whale oil.
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What are you going to do?
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Now the situation is complex.
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But, basically,
some railroad unions
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are threatening to strike
because, despite railroad
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companies making
billions in profits,
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workers' schedules are so
unpredictable that they
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can't plan their lives.
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And they definitely don't get
nearly enough sick days, which
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they deserve, especially
because every few train rides,
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they have to climb on the roof
because they hear a sound.
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And it's James Bond,
who's coming to punch
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them and take over the train.
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That's at least a
mental health day.
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So it's kind of messed up
for Joe Biden to step in
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and forbid the
workers from striking.
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You know?
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That's the only point of
leverage that workers have.
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If they can't strike, what
are they supposed to do?
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Be like, all right,
we'll run the trains.
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But when we blow the whistle,
it's going to be real sad.
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Choo, choo.
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At the same time,
though, I can see
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why Joe Biden is willing
to stop the unions
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from going on strike.
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He can't have the economy
take a hit on his watch.
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His administration has enough
problems-- high interest
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rates, war in Europe,
they can't find
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a sitter for Pete Buttigieg.
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Times are hard.
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But if anyone can solve a
train crisis, it's Joe Biden.
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This man has spent his whole
life obsessed with trains.
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This is his moment.
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Can you imagine?
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It's made for him.
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This is like if Trump
had to solve a crisis
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involving the McRib, you know?
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He's just like,
(IMITATING TRUMP)
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everyone out of the room.
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Melania, get me the
Hamburglar on a secure line.
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We're going to solve this.
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But this is yet another
reminder of all the things
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happening in the
supply chain that we
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all just take for granted.
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We take it all for granted
because a banana doesn't just
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show up in a grocery store.
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Somebody grows a
tree in Costa Rica.
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And then it's picked, and
it's loaded onto a truck.
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And then a ship, and then
another truck, and then
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a train, and then
another truck, and that's
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when you buy it at the store.
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You put it on your
counter, and you
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let it slowly rot before
throwing it in the garbage.
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And that garbage is picked
up by another truck.
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And then it's shipped
back to Costa Rica.
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It's actually beautiful
when you think about it.
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It's the circle of life.
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Hakuna matata.
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All right, finally, history
is full of famous feuds,
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you know?
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Godzilla versus Mothra,
Swifties versus Ticketmaster,
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Herschel Walker versus condoms.
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And now there's a new one, Elon
Musk, the world's richest man,
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is picking a fight with the
world's richest company.
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Elon Musk has a
beef with Apple.
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He claims the tech giant
has threatened to pull
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Twitter from its App Store.
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A move like that
would, of course,
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crush Musk's new company.
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REPORTER: Musk tweeting a
series of claims against Tim
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Cook and company, calling
out the iPhone maker
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for pulling back on advertising
on the social platform,
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also complaining
about the 15% to 30%
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fee that is placed
on app developers.
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Musk also said that
Apple had threatened
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to remove Twitter
from its App Store
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as part of its review
moderation process.
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He likened this move to a
suppression of free speech.
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REPORTER: This is a battle for
the future of civilization,
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he writes.
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If free speech is
lost, even in America,
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tyranny is all that lies ahead.
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Really, Elon?
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Tyranny?
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You can't give the Braveheart
speech about everything.
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Everything?
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This dude is walking
around Twitter headquarters
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like, this threatens
the very existence
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of democracy and mankind.
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Than the janitor
is like, OK, jeez,
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I'll refill the paper towels.
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Stop shouting.
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Now we should unpack this
a bit because Elon went
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full on ludicrous
mode yesterday
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with a bunch of different
claims about Apple.
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The first thing he
complained about
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was that Apple
stopped advertising
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on Twitter, which he thinks
is an attack on free speech.
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And maybe it's
just me, but, like,
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do you also find it
funny how free speech
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and giving Elon
Musk money always
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seem to be perfectly aligned?
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Right?
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Elon is like, oh, so the
world's most perfectly
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protected brand
doesn't want ads
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showing up next to Nazi memes.
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I guess you believe
in censorship, huh?
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Secondly, Elon is bitching that
Apple has threatened to drop
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Twitter from the App Store.
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And if that's
true, it's probably
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because Apple requires all
of its apps to be safe.
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And Musk has essentially
fired all the people who
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are responsible for
content moderation
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and replaced them with
a sign that just says,
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hey, don't post that.
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And the third point--
the third point that Elon
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is crying about is
that Apple has too
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much power over iPhone apps.
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Yeah, because if he charges
$8 a month for Twitter
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verification,
Apple automatically
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gets to take up to 30% of any
money people spend in the app.
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Elon doesn't want that.
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I mean, he can't afford to
give 30% of Twitter's money
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away just because some idiot
made him spend $44 billion
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on an app that we
all use for free.
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He can't afford that shit.
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And so that's
where we are right
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now, the richest company versus
the richest man in the world.
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And the stakes
could not be higher.
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Because, remember, the
outcome of this war
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could determine how we spend
our time while we poop.
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All right, that's it
for the headlines.
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Before we go to a
break, it's time
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to check in on all the
latest social media trends
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with our very own Ronny
Chieng, everybody!
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[cheering]
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What's going on, Ronny?
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I love social media.
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It's the one place where you
can keep your Thanksgiving
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fights going all year long.
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Here's what's trending today.
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OK, there's this weird
video on TikTok of a doll
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dancing around in the forest.
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And now parents are showing
their kids that video
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and tricking them into
believing that the doll was
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them as a baby.
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Now what I just said may not
make any sense, but trust me.
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After you watch it, it will
somehow make even less sense.
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All right?
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Just take a look.
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WOMAN: Do you remember?
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That's not me
when I was a baby.
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WOMAN: Yeah, it was.
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You don't remember?
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I'm flying.
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WOMAN: Yeah, you
were just born.
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OK, stop.
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Stop the video.
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Putin, if you're watching this,
please, just nuke us right now
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and end it, OK?
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Because if you're going to
gaslight kids like you have
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done Men in Black
brainwash your children,
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at least give them a
good fake memory, OK?
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Like, make them believe that
two years ago, you already
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got them a Nintendo instead
of losing their college
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fund in Bitcoin, right?
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Because this challenge
is just mean.
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Even Woody Allen
is like, this is
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no way to treat your own kids.
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OK?
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What, too soon?
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Too Soon-Yi?
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TREVOR NOAH: [laughs]
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Kids, let's--
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[applause]
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Let's try a new challenge, OK?
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The call protective services
and tell them your parents
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are exploiting you for
likes challenge, OK?
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Because you might even get
a new family out of this.
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It'll be hilarious.
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Something for the gram.
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And the other thing
that's trending right now
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is, as Trevor said,
Elon Musk versus Apple.
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He's very upset right
now, and, of course,
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Elon is upset at
Apple's policy, OK?
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Elon barely read his own
contract to buy Twitter.
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You think he read Apple's
terms and conditions?
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OK?
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No one seems to understand,
this guy is rich in America.
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OK?
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That means people should
just do what he wants.
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Stop oppressing him.
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OK?
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Elon grew up in South Africa
under apartheid, Trevor.
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Do you have any idea how
hard that was for him?
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[laughter]
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That's something none
of us in this room
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could ever understand.
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And that is what's
motivating him
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to save democracy by
preserving our right to have
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neo-Nazis call me a cuck.
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So you commies better let the
free market save this company
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that's not profitable.
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But speaking on
Twitter, the only trend
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that matters this week
is the World Cup, OK?
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Yeah, that's right.
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And every day, every
trend, every trending topic
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is someone versus someone--
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USA versus Iran,
Morocco versus Belgium.
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You can't see anything
but World Cup hashtags.
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OK?
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It's so bad-- I don't even
know who Pete Davidson
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is [bleep] right now, OK?
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That's how unclear my feed is.
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It's just buried under
inane soccer tweets
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from idiots like this guy.
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You see this?
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Look at this.
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[laughter]
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Lionel Messi, what a player.
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Do we need this?
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Do we need this?
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What a player.
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What a tweet.
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What a discovery.
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Oh my god.
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This guy should quit his job
and become a soccer scout,
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whoever he is, because
he's got a real eye
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for finding the best
player in the world
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for the last two decades.
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Listen, Pete Davidson could be
[bleep] Kathy Bates right now,
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and I wouldn't even know
because of trash like this
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cluttering up my feed.
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Anyway, I got to go.
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My mom just sent
me a video of me
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as a baby playing in
the forest or something.
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I got to go watch this.
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All right, back to you, Trevor.
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Ronny Chieng, everybody.
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RONNY CHIENG: Oh my
god, I'm so cute.
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Thank you so much for that.
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And you should check out Messi.
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He's pretty amazing.
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All right, when we come back,
Michael Kosta will give you
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the secrets to getting rich.
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So don't go away.
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[cheering]
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[cheering]
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Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
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You know, with the global
economy looking shaky,
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you may be wondering where you
can safely invest your money.
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Well, Michael Kosta has
covered with an opportunity
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you can't miss.
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MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
When you think
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of successful markets that have
thrived during the pandemic
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while so many others have
perished, you think of Zoom,
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Amazon, sweatpants,
and haunted dolls.
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That's right.
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Haunted dolls are
big right now.
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Now I'm not usually
an occult guy.
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But to survive in this
economy, I'm willing to make
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a deal with the undead.
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But, first, I had to find
out more about the business.
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And who better to teach
me than Kat Blowers,
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the number one seller of
haunted dolls on eBay?
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Be scared of demons.
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Be scared of negative energy.
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But other than that,
if you're interested,
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you should jump
in with both feet.
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You are literally in the
business of ghosting people.
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When did you notice that the
haunted doll business was
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skyrocketing and that you
are basically the Jeff
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Bezos of haunted dolls?
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[laughs] I started
in 2014, and there
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was only a few shops.
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Now there's probably 50,
60 shops for haunted dolls.
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How many dolls would you say
you've sold in the last year?
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Probably a thousand.
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There's money in this?
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There is.
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I've seen a haunted doll
go for $4,000 before.
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Woo!
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OK, now Kosta is into it.
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MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
But my big question,
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aside from how can I hide
$4,000 of dolls sales
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from the IRS, is what made a
haunted doll a haunted doll?
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According to haunted
doll sellers,
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any doll that was inhabited
by the soul of a dead person
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was prime for selling.
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But what made one haunting
more expensive than another?
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MICHAEL KOSTA: When you
say haunted, for me,
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that sounds scary.
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You're also saying that
there's a positive haunting?
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Absolutely, and I try
to keep most of my stuff
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on the positive side.
- Oh, you mean--
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Like that's going to--
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--the baby with
its legs ripped off?
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KAT BLOWERS: Actually, that
one's not that positive.
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Right.
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What if it's, like,
a really evil spirit?
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I actually do charge
a little bit more.
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I don't want the little, young
kids to be able to afford it.
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MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER): You
can sell a human soul on eBay?
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There was a ban.
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Who was selling
too many human souls?
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KAT BLOWERS: You have to have
a disclaimer if a ghost caused
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you to murder your wife.
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Isn't capitalism fascinating?
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It can be.
506
00:19:05,620 --> 00:19:07,756
That's about 25%
of the business,
507
00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:09,391
and people send them to me.
508
00:19:09,491 --> 00:19:10,625
And right now I have
a two and a half
509
00:19:10,725 --> 00:19:12,894
year waiting list
for evaluations.
510
00:19:12,994 --> 00:19:14,396
Yeah.
- What?
511
00:19:14,496 --> 00:19:15,964
Write down everything
you know about the doll
512
00:19:16,064 --> 00:19:17,999
so that when I open the box
I know what I'm dealing with.
513
00:19:18,099 --> 00:19:20,836
And I'll talk to you in
two and a half years.
514
00:19:20,936 --> 00:19:23,271
The rest of the business
is people contacting me,
515
00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,773
looking for a haunted doll.
516
00:19:24,873 --> 00:19:26,341
Are you looking
for a little kid?
517
00:19:26,441 --> 00:19:28,743
Are you looking for something
that's going to challenge you?
518
00:19:28,777 --> 00:19:29,878
Are you looking for
something that's
519
00:19:29,978 --> 00:19:31,279
going to scare your neighbors?
520
00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,982
There's spirits that will
motivate you to do work.
521
00:19:34,082 --> 00:19:36,284
There's spirits that will
attract money to your house.
522
00:19:36,384 --> 00:19:38,487
There's spirits that
will attract love.
523
00:19:38,587 --> 00:19:39,521
MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER): Wow.
524
00:19:39,621 --> 00:19:41,156
Clearly, Katherine
was selling these
525
00:19:41,256 --> 00:19:42,524
haunted little hot cakes.
526
00:19:42,691 --> 00:19:45,961
But who are the everyday folks
buying these haunted dolls?
527
00:19:46,061 --> 00:19:52,100
[knocking]
528
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,101
Hi.
529
00:19:53,201 --> 00:19:54,836
Oh, I no-- I-- it's you.
530
00:19:54,936 --> 00:19:55,837
I know you.
531
00:19:55,937 --> 00:19:57,038
Hey.
532
00:19:57,138 --> 00:19:59,407
MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
Yup, the Stormy Daniels.
533
00:19:59,508 --> 00:20:02,577
Stormy's doll, Susan,
was purchased in 2011,
534
00:20:02,711 --> 00:20:06,047
and is said to be cursed with
a uniquely malevolent spirit.
535
00:20:06,148 --> 00:20:08,316
We believe Susan
belonged to a little girl
536
00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:10,252
who died in 1955.
537
00:20:10,352 --> 00:20:12,787
And it definitely had something
to do with a stomach issue.
538
00:20:12,888 --> 00:20:15,257
Before we even started
shooting, the producer on set
539
00:20:15,357 --> 00:20:16,625
here wanted to touch her.
540
00:20:16,725 --> 00:20:18,593
And you said, don't do that.
You'll shit your pants.
541
00:20:18,727 --> 00:20:19,895
Yes.
542
00:20:19,995 --> 00:20:21,763
Three people that I slept
with in a row she attacked.
543
00:20:21,863 --> 00:20:23,832
They had stomach
problems and back issues
544
00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:25,000
pretty much immediately.
545
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,736
She's more mischievous
than malicious.
546
00:20:27,836 --> 00:20:29,404
I've never felt like
I was in danger.
547
00:20:29,504 --> 00:20:30,972
What has Susan
added to your life?
548
00:20:31,072 --> 00:20:32,240
STORMY DANIELS:
She adds protection
549
00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:34,743
when you go into these places
that could be dangerous.
550
00:20:34,843 --> 00:20:35,977
MICHAEL KOSTA
(VOICEOVER): OK, but is
551
00:20:36,077 --> 00:20:38,346
Susan really worth that much?
552
00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:41,349
I have been offered
$7,500 for her once
553
00:20:41,449 --> 00:20:42,684
and $10,000 for her once.
554
00:20:42,751 --> 00:20:43,952
But she is not for sale.
555
00:20:44,052 --> 00:20:45,187
She has her own TV show.
556
00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:46,688
She's on VH1's The Real Life.
557
00:20:46,755 --> 00:20:48,290
Anyone who follows
her Instagram will
558
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:50,091
know this little
plastic bitch has
559
00:20:50,192 --> 00:20:52,360
been on yachts and Ferraris.
560
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,129
Is that her handle,
this little plastic bitch?
561
00:20:54,229 --> 00:20:55,297
It should be.
562
00:20:55,397 --> 00:20:57,098
Would you say she's
living her best afterlife?
563
00:20:57,199 --> 00:20:59,467
She is definitely
living her best afterlife.
564
00:20:59,568 --> 00:21:00,836
MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
So I went back
565
00:21:00,936 --> 00:21:02,737
to Kat to learn
about the highly
566
00:21:02,838 --> 00:21:05,106
scientific analysis
process used
567
00:21:05,207 --> 00:21:07,342
to identify a haunted doll.
568
00:21:07,442 --> 00:21:08,343
MICHAEL KOSTA: So--
569
00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:10,245
[bell ringing]
570
00:21:10,345 --> 00:21:11,246
Bells?
571
00:21:11,346 --> 00:21:12,481
OK.
572
00:21:12,581 --> 00:21:13,849
MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
After studying
573
00:21:13,949 --> 00:21:16,485
the extensive tools needed
and the strict procedure--
574
00:21:16,585 --> 00:21:18,253
What if the UPS guy
rings the doorbell?
575
00:21:18,353 --> 00:21:19,621
That screws it up.
576
00:21:19,721 --> 00:21:20,989
MICHAEL KOSTA
(VOICEOVER): I knew
577
00:21:21,089 --> 00:21:22,757
if I was serious about getting
into the business of haunted
578
00:21:22,858 --> 00:21:25,927
dolls, the next step had to be
trying out the haunted product
579
00:21:26,027 --> 00:21:28,129
to see what all
the fuss is about.
580
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:29,364
Her name is Jennifer.
581
00:21:29,464 --> 00:21:32,267
She is about seven
or eight years old.
582
00:21:32,367 --> 00:21:33,735
And we think she was murdered.
583
00:21:33,768 --> 00:21:36,571
Is it safe to say that she
was killed by a white man?
584
00:21:36,738 --> 00:21:38,139
[laughs] Yes.
MICHAEL KOSTA: Probably.
585
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,140
KAT BLOWERS: Absolutely.
586
00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:40,408
What is it with
a white men lately?
587
00:21:40,509 --> 00:21:43,678
What would Jennifer
cost for someone?
588
00:21:43,712 --> 00:21:45,080
60, 70 bucks probably.
589
00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:46,715
- 60, 70 bucks, OK.
- Yeah.
590
00:21:46,815 --> 00:21:48,216
MICHAEL KOSTA: All
right, Jennifer.
591
00:21:48,316 --> 00:21:49,751
Sorry you got murdered.
592
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,586
MICHAEL KOSTA (VOICEOVER):
So I left with my free trial
593
00:21:51,686 --> 00:21:54,089
named Jennifer, and
I took a video diary
594
00:21:54,189 --> 00:21:56,925
to record my feedback.
595
00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:59,027
Hey, so day one
with Jennifer,
596
00:21:59,127 --> 00:22:01,696
I don't know if I
really get it yet.
597
00:22:01,796 --> 00:22:04,499
The only thing I can report, I
have had some violent dreams.
598
00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,369
There was a river of blood,
and there was a stabbing,
599
00:22:07,469 --> 00:22:09,437
but still better
than what I was
600
00:22:09,538 --> 00:22:11,907
dreaming about before, which
was the state of this country.
601
00:22:12,007 --> 00:22:14,876
So I think I'm starting
to get it a little bit.
602
00:22:14,976 --> 00:22:16,411
Did you make this for me?
603
00:22:16,511 --> 00:22:19,214
I don't know if
she's following me.
604
00:22:19,314 --> 00:22:20,282
[gasps]
605
00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:23,785
Or if I just bring
her everywhere.
606
00:22:23,885 --> 00:22:26,721
I can't do this
with you watching.
607
00:22:26,755 --> 00:22:27,923
Thank you.
608
00:22:28,023 --> 00:22:31,426
The soul of this doll has
excellent comedic timing.
609
00:22:31,526 --> 00:22:33,428
It's just great
having someone around
610
00:22:33,528 --> 00:22:34,963
who laughs at the jokes.
611
00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:36,798
She is a haunted doll, and
I know what I'm saying,
612
00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:37,799
and it sounds crazy.
613
00:22:37,899 --> 00:22:40,302
But it's just-- it's wonderful.
614
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:41,369
(HIGH-PITCHED)
Nice to meet you.
615
00:22:41,469 --> 00:22:42,671
Nice to meet-- I'm
going to kill you.
616
00:22:42,737 --> 00:22:43,672
Just kidding.
617
00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:45,207
[laughs]
618
00:22:45,307 --> 00:22:48,076
The trial-- the
trial is over, and I
619
00:22:48,176 --> 00:22:49,478
can't get into this business.
620
00:22:49,578 --> 00:22:51,379
Sending Jennifer
back to Katherine
621
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,417
is the hardest thing
I've ever had to do.
622
00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:58,487
Jennifer, you got to go.
623
00:22:58,587 --> 00:23:02,724
Get in the box.
624
00:23:02,824 --> 00:23:03,992
Thank you so much
for that, Michael.
625
00:23:04,092 --> 00:23:05,594
All right, stay tuned
because when we come back,
626
00:23:05,694 --> 00:23:06,962
the legendary Pam
Grier will be joining
627
00:23:07,062 --> 00:23:07,963
me right here on the show.
628
00:23:08,063 --> 00:23:08,964
So don't go away.
629
00:23:09,064 --> 00:23:12,601
[cheering]
630
00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:23,946
[cheering]
631
00:23:24,046 --> 00:23:25,213
Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
632
00:23:25,314 --> 00:23:27,215
My guest tonight
is an iconic actor
633
00:23:27,316 --> 00:23:30,218
you know from films like
Foxy Brown and Jackie Brown.
634
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:32,688
And she's here to talk
about the new podcast
635
00:23:32,788 --> 00:23:35,991
season of her TCM podcast,
The Plot Thickens.
636
00:23:36,091 --> 00:23:37,759
The final episode
drops December 6,
637
00:23:37,859 --> 00:23:39,528
and you can catch up
on the whole season
638
00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,696
wherever you
listen to podcasts.
639
00:23:40,796 --> 00:23:43,365
Please, welcome the
legendary Pam Grier.
640
00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:46,835
[music playing]
641
00:23:46,935 --> 00:23:53,942
[cheering]
642
00:23:58,347 --> 00:24:00,015
Welcome, welcome.
Welcome to the show.
643
00:24:00,115 --> 00:24:01,116
Welcome.
Good to have you.
644
00:24:01,216 --> 00:24:03,018
Oh my god.
645
00:24:03,118 --> 00:24:04,253
Oh, a legend.
646
00:24:04,353 --> 00:24:05,754
Give an applause,
ladies and gentlemen.
647
00:24:05,854 --> 00:24:10,926
[cheering]
648
00:24:11,026 --> 00:24:12,561
The legendary Pam Grier.
649
00:24:12,661 --> 00:24:13,562
Trevor.
650
00:24:13,662 --> 00:24:14,863
Welcome to The Daily Show.
651
00:24:14,963 --> 00:24:16,031
Trevor, hey.
652
00:24:16,131 --> 00:24:17,165
TREVOR NOAH: [laughs]
653
00:24:17,266 --> 00:24:19,268
What we going to do
when you leave us, boy?
654
00:24:19,368 --> 00:24:20,369
Come on.
655
00:24:20,469 --> 00:24:22,137
TREVOR NOAH: Well,
I'm not leaving life.
656
00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:26,875
No, but I look forward to
you and hearing you and--
657
00:24:26,975 --> 00:24:27,943
Thank you.
658
00:24:28,043 --> 00:24:30,445
--and keeping me
laughing at great stuff.
659
00:24:30,545 --> 00:24:31,780
- Thank you very much.
- Humanity.
660
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,781
Thank you.
661
00:24:32,881 --> 00:24:33,882
Thank you very much.
662
00:24:33,982 --> 00:24:34,883
Thank you.
663
00:24:34,983 --> 00:24:36,251
[cheering]
664
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,154
Because I feel like--
665
00:24:39,254 --> 00:24:40,589
and I'm not the only
one who thinks this.
666
00:24:40,689 --> 00:24:43,525
If it weren't for you,
so many of the movies
667
00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:46,328
that we know and love today
wouldn't have been possible.
668
00:24:46,428 --> 00:24:48,997
Because everybody who knows
film knows that if it weren't
669
00:24:49,164 --> 00:24:52,000
for Pam Grier and what she
did with all the movies
670
00:24:52,167 --> 00:24:53,568
that she made,
there wouldn't have
671
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:57,072
been Black women on
screen, kicking ass the way
672
00:24:57,172 --> 00:24:58,206
that we see them today.
673
00:24:58,307 --> 00:25:00,242
You were the
original action star
674
00:25:00,342 --> 00:25:01,910
at a time when Black
women weren't allowed
675
00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:02,911
to be portrayed like that.
676
00:25:03,011 --> 00:25:03,912
So thank you.
677
00:25:04,012 --> 00:25:05,514
[cheering]
Thank you.
678
00:25:05,614 --> 00:25:06,582
Thank you.
679
00:25:06,682 --> 00:25:09,918
Well, as you know,
quickly, as a filmmaker,
680
00:25:10,018 --> 00:25:12,187
you have to develop an
audience to be prepared
681
00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:15,257
for a woman performing
martial arts,
682
00:25:15,357 --> 00:25:18,860
whether it's internal
kung fu, external karate,
683
00:25:18,961 --> 00:25:21,997
an external form, and
jumping and firing firearms.
684
00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:23,799
I'm from the Black West.
685
00:25:23,899 --> 00:25:25,534
[laughter]
686
00:25:25,634 --> 00:25:26,735
Don't worry about my guns.
687
00:25:26,835 --> 00:25:29,972
Worry about my chainsaw,
and we make moonshine, OK?
688
00:25:30,138 --> 00:25:33,175
But I wanted to bring
that culture to film
689
00:25:33,275 --> 00:25:35,911
to help not
pontificate to anyone
690
00:25:36,011 --> 00:25:39,147
with filters and
fear of me, a woman
691
00:25:39,248 --> 00:25:40,582
walking in a man's shoes.
692
00:25:40,682 --> 00:25:41,650
You know what I'm
talking about.
693
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:43,218
Hey in the blue sweater.
694
00:25:43,318 --> 00:25:47,322
But to let everyone feel
comfortable that they--
695
00:25:47,422 --> 00:25:50,259
my grandfather Daddy Ray in my
biopic and everything that's
696
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,363
happening, he said, Pammy,
I want you to fly ties,
697
00:25:54,463 --> 00:25:55,464
go fishing, bring the boat in.
698
00:25:55,564 --> 00:25:57,633
I want all the girls
to be self-sufficient.
699
00:25:57,733 --> 00:25:59,534
And if a woman
can do something,
700
00:25:59,635 --> 00:26:00,902
a man will respect you.
TREVOR NOAH: Wow.
701
00:26:01,003 --> 00:26:01,903
I love this.
702
00:26:02,004 --> 00:26:03,071
And I've had that.
703
00:26:03,171 --> 00:26:08,176
And so that gave me the
courage to fall, get hurt,
704
00:26:08,243 --> 00:26:09,978
but to show that
women are just trying
705
00:26:10,078 --> 00:26:11,079
to be the best we can be.
706
00:26:11,179 --> 00:26:13,181
So when you don't
come home from a war,
707
00:26:13,248 --> 00:26:14,616
we done cut the grass.
708
00:26:14,716 --> 00:26:16,084
We done paint the house.
709
00:26:16,184 --> 00:26:18,453
We welcome our men,
who may not come home.
710
00:26:18,553 --> 00:26:21,156
But we can do it, and
you're proud of us.
711
00:26:21,256 --> 00:26:22,491
TREVOR NOAH: That is beautiful.
712
00:26:22,591 --> 00:26:26,495
And you really did create
something completely
713
00:26:26,595 --> 00:26:27,496
new and completely different.
714
00:26:27,596 --> 00:26:28,864
In The Plot Thickens,
the podcast,
715
00:26:28,964 --> 00:26:31,133
what I love about it is
we go through your life
716
00:26:31,199 --> 00:26:32,200
and your journey.
717
00:26:32,301 --> 00:26:34,403
There are few human
beings who have lived--
718
00:26:34,503 --> 00:26:35,737
it almost feels like
a hundred lives--
719
00:26:35,837 --> 00:26:36,738
It is.
720
00:26:36,838 --> 00:26:37,739
--in one lifetime.
721
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:38,740
It is.
722
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,142
It's Gumpian, Forrest Gumpian.
723
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:41,143
TREVOR NOAH: It really
is Forrest Gumpian.
724
00:26:41,209 --> 00:26:42,210
This shit got
to happen to me?
725
00:26:42,311 --> 00:26:43,412
Come on.
726
00:26:43,512 --> 00:26:44,913
TREVOR NOAH: Are
you kidding me?
727
00:26:45,013 --> 00:26:47,482
To be-- the first week
I'm off the turnip truck,
728
00:26:47,583 --> 00:26:50,018
literally, I get to sing
backup with Bobby Womack.
729
00:26:50,152 --> 00:26:52,020
He says, hey, I
have a friend that
730
00:26:52,154 --> 00:26:53,522
is recording tomorrow night.
731
00:26:53,622 --> 00:26:56,658
Now I'm literally
sleeping in a garage,
732
00:26:56,758 --> 00:26:58,427
trying to get into
film school at UCLA.
733
00:26:58,527 --> 00:26:59,628
OK?
734
00:26:59,728 --> 00:27:01,430
OK, you're going to be
singing for-- working
735
00:27:01,530 --> 00:27:04,166
for Sylvester Stewart.
736
00:27:04,199 --> 00:27:05,167
Puddy Cat?
737
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,169
What kind of Sylvester
name is that?
738
00:27:07,235 --> 00:27:08,770
OK, OK, I can do it.
I can do it.
739
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:09,771
I sing gospel in Denver.
740
00:27:09,871 --> 00:27:11,006
I play keyboards.
741
00:27:11,173 --> 00:27:15,744
So I go, CBS, and the
director-- the manager says,
742
00:27:15,844 --> 00:27:17,246
have you sung with
Wonderlove before?
743
00:27:17,346 --> 00:27:19,281
I'm like, Wonderlove?
744
00:27:19,381 --> 00:27:23,552
Stevie Wonder's back-- no, I'm
poor, and I live in Colorado.
745
00:27:23,652 --> 00:27:25,420
And I've come out
here to go to school.
746
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,755
And he says, OK,
well, tell Sylvester.
747
00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:27,856
You want to meet him?
748
00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:29,858
OK, so he walks me up
to this big window.
749
00:27:29,958 --> 00:27:32,561
And it's Sly of Sly
and the Family Stone.
750
00:27:32,661 --> 00:27:33,562
TREVOR NOAH: Wow.
751
00:27:33,662 --> 00:27:36,298
Fro, bass, you know, jamming.
752
00:27:36,398 --> 00:27:38,533
On drums in the
back, Buddy Miles.
753
00:27:38,634 --> 00:27:39,835
He had already started
Band of Gypsys.
754
00:27:39,935 --> 00:27:40,836
What?
755
00:27:40,936 --> 00:27:43,639
So I get to
sing, go to sleep.
756
00:27:43,739 --> 00:27:44,606
Elevator opens.
757
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:46,208
Here is three guys
in the elevator,
758
00:27:46,308 --> 00:27:49,144
a big, Black dude in
the center with a hat,
759
00:27:49,244 --> 00:27:51,046
and two white
dudes on the side,
760
00:27:51,146 --> 00:27:52,781
walking down the hallway.
761
00:27:52,881 --> 00:27:55,884
And I'm going, I
smell patchouli oil.
762
00:27:55,984 --> 00:27:57,753
TREVOR NOAH: [laughs]
763
00:27:57,853 --> 00:27:59,154
It's Jimi Hendrix.
764
00:27:59,254 --> 00:28:00,155
TREVOR NOAH: What?
765
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:02,691
And the Band of
Gypsys coming to jam
766
00:28:02,791 --> 00:28:03,759
with Sly and the Family Stone.
767
00:28:03,859 --> 00:28:05,594
Where are the tapes?
TREVOR NOAH: What?
768
00:28:05,694 --> 00:28:07,162
Yeah, and he goes,
(IMITATING HENDRIX) hey--
769
00:28:07,229 --> 00:28:08,163
you know, hey, Buddy, man.
770
00:28:08,263 --> 00:28:10,265
I'm like-- [gasping]
I'm like a zombie.
771
00:28:10,365 --> 00:28:12,267
Like, don't be stupid, Pam.
772
00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:13,268
You got-- she can sing.
773
00:28:13,368 --> 00:28:14,269
She's country.
774
00:28:14,369 --> 00:28:15,837
Don't pay any attention to her.
775
00:28:15,938 --> 00:28:17,439
And they started jamming.
Where are the tapes?
776
00:28:17,539 --> 00:28:18,473
Come on now.
777
00:28:18,574 --> 00:28:19,608
That's-- I couldn't
have planned that.
778
00:28:19,708 --> 00:28:20,609
TREVOR NOAH: Where
are the tapes?
779
00:28:20,709 --> 00:28:22,277
Can you imagine?
I don't know.
780
00:28:22,377 --> 00:28:23,412
Maybe you can find them.
781
00:28:23,512 --> 00:28:26,615
I feel like every story
in your life is this.
782
00:28:26,715 --> 00:28:28,750
Like you said, you grew up
in a world where you're poor.
783
00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:30,552
You didn't have much.
You come into this world.
784
00:28:30,652 --> 00:28:31,553
You're trying to do something.
785
00:28:31,653 --> 00:28:32,654
You start creating
the something.
786
00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:33,755
You're singing with people.
787
00:28:33,855 --> 00:28:36,325
You're going out with
legends and icons.
788
00:28:36,425 --> 00:28:37,459
You're becoming
friends with them.
789
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:38,760
You're working with them.
You're creating.
790
00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:40,596
And you become the
legend and the icon.
791
00:28:40,696 --> 00:28:42,030
I would love to
know, when you've
792
00:28:42,130 --> 00:28:44,399
been part of this documentary
that looks back on your life--
793
00:28:44,499 --> 00:28:45,400
PAM GRIER: I know.
794
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:47,002
You know, when
we're living life,
795
00:28:47,135 --> 00:28:50,339
oftentimes, we don't take
stock of every single thing
796
00:28:50,439 --> 00:28:51,573
that we've experienced.
797
00:28:51,673 --> 00:28:53,675
But when you get to hear
it told back to you, when
798
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:55,310
you get to tell it
again, sometimes
799
00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:56,578
you appreciate it even more.
800
00:28:56,678 --> 00:29:00,148
I would love to know,
when you look at it again,
801
00:29:00,249 --> 00:29:03,252
what is one of the biggest
moments not of success,
802
00:29:03,352 --> 00:29:06,788
but where you go, wow, I cannot
believe that I lived through
803
00:29:06,888 --> 00:29:09,324
that moment in my career?
804
00:29:09,424 --> 00:29:11,693
I lived through
Richard Pryor.
805
00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:12,694
TREVOR NOAH: Wow.
806
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,596
I really loved
him, and he loved me.
807
00:29:14,696 --> 00:29:16,498
He thought I was the
funniest bitch around.
808
00:29:16,598 --> 00:29:18,000
[laughter]
809
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,001
TREVOR NOAH: That sounds like
something Richard would day.
810
00:29:19,101 --> 00:29:20,135
I made him laugh.
811
00:29:20,235 --> 00:29:21,637
His horse, Ginger, from
the Mudbone folklore--
812
00:29:21,737 --> 00:29:22,638
TREVOR NOAH: Yes.
813
00:29:22,738 --> 00:29:23,872
The horse was injured.
814
00:29:23,972 --> 00:29:26,275
And I come from Western
stock, horses, and grew up.
815
00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:27,409
The horses saved
me and my family.
816
00:29:27,509 --> 00:29:28,410
TREVOR NOAH: Yes.
817
00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:29,745
And I had to take
him to the vet.
818
00:29:29,845 --> 00:29:32,114
But I didn't have a
truck or a horse trailer.
819
00:29:32,180 --> 00:29:33,982
Richard's in a
bathrobe, crying.
820
00:29:34,116 --> 00:29:35,918
He's going to kill every
mother-mother-[bleep] around.
821
00:29:36,018 --> 00:29:37,853
And I'm like, no, you
don't have to kill anybody.
822
00:29:37,953 --> 00:29:39,288
We're going to put the
horse in my Jaguar.
823
00:29:39,388 --> 00:29:41,490
He says, but it's a Jag.
824
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:43,892
It's a four-door, '76
XJL banana yellow.
825
00:29:43,992 --> 00:29:45,193
TREVOR NOAH: But you're
saying you're going
826
00:29:45,294 --> 00:29:46,295
to put the horse in the Jag.
827
00:29:46,395 --> 00:29:47,696
We put the horse in
the backseat of the Jag.
828
00:29:47,796 --> 00:29:48,764
I said, I'll go--
829
00:29:48,864 --> 00:29:50,599
I'mma go pulling, and
you push, Richard.
830
00:29:50,699 --> 00:29:52,200
We're going to get the
horse in the Jaguar.
831
00:29:52,301 --> 00:29:53,902
We get the horse in the Jaguar.
832
00:29:54,002 --> 00:29:55,237
The shocks go boom.
833
00:29:55,337 --> 00:29:57,139
The tires go boom.
834
00:29:57,239 --> 00:29:59,575
And get in the car, Richard,
with your ashy ankles
835
00:29:59,675 --> 00:30:00,576
and your bathrobe.
836
00:30:00,676 --> 00:30:01,877
Get in the mother-[bleep] car.
837
00:30:01,977 --> 00:30:03,445
- [laughs]
- OK, we get in the car.
838
00:30:03,545 --> 00:30:05,147
We driving down the 405--
- No way.
839
00:30:05,213 --> 00:30:06,148
--to the vet.
Yes, way.
840
00:30:06,248 --> 00:30:07,950
And, all of a sudden,
like, the car's
841
00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:09,952
fishtailing all over the place
with the horse in the back.
842
00:30:10,052 --> 00:30:11,720
And white people
saying, there's
843
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,023
two Negroes in the car with
a horse in the backseat
844
00:30:15,157 --> 00:30:17,225
of a English car.
845
00:30:17,326 --> 00:30:18,860
It's a Jag!
846
00:30:18,961 --> 00:30:20,796
And we're all-- and they're
saying, where's the vet?
847
00:30:20,896 --> 00:30:22,598
Where's the vet?
And they said, follow us.
848
00:30:22,698 --> 00:30:23,865
Follow us.
And so we've got--
849
00:30:23,966 --> 00:30:26,368
I've got a train of
people, choo-choo train,
850
00:30:26,468 --> 00:30:29,338
following us to the
vet with the horse
851
00:30:29,438 --> 00:30:30,939
in the back seat to get--
852
00:30:31,106 --> 00:30:32,841
I'm going to save a horse.
I'm going to save a life.
853
00:30:32,941 --> 00:30:33,909
TREVOR NOAH: I love that.
854
00:30:34,009 --> 00:30:36,211
And we get there,
and Richard said, baby,
855
00:30:36,311 --> 00:30:37,879
you're the funniest
bitch I've ever known.
856
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:39,648
You funnier than me.
857
00:30:39,748 --> 00:30:43,852
Saved your life, and he
realized that I loved him.
858
00:30:43,952 --> 00:30:45,187
And I didn't want
him to fall off
859
00:30:45,287 --> 00:30:48,190
the wagon because he was trying
to get his stuff together.
860
00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:49,291
And I would do anything.
861
00:30:49,391 --> 00:30:52,227
When you really love
someone, when you--
862
00:30:52,327 --> 00:30:54,296
you don't abandon
people you love.
863
00:30:54,396 --> 00:30:56,365
You abandon people
you're using.
864
00:30:56,465 --> 00:30:58,000
TREVOR NOAH: Hmm.
865
00:30:58,133 --> 00:30:59,968
And I never used him.
866
00:31:00,135 --> 00:31:01,803
TREVOR NOAH: What do you
think it was about you
867
00:31:01,903 --> 00:31:03,805
that immunized you from
a world where-- you've
868
00:31:03,905 --> 00:31:05,774
talked about this
in your biography,
869
00:31:05,874 --> 00:31:07,743
and you talked about this
in your stories-- so many
870
00:31:07,843 --> 00:31:09,144
of the people
around you who were
871
00:31:09,211 --> 00:31:10,145
brilliant-- they were icons.
They were changing the world.
872
00:31:10,212 --> 00:31:11,146
They're geniuses.
873
00:31:11,213 --> 00:31:12,180
TREVOR NOAH: They
were geniuses,
874
00:31:12,281 --> 00:31:13,749
but they were also
addicted to drugs.
875
00:31:13,849 --> 00:31:16,285
Drugs was really
destroying who they were.
876
00:31:16,385 --> 00:31:18,887
Many people going into rehab,
some never making it out,
877
00:31:18,987 --> 00:31:21,857
and yet you managed to
escape so much of that.
878
00:31:21,957 --> 00:31:23,825
What do you think
it was about you?
879
00:31:23,926 --> 00:31:25,961
I can't drink gin.
880
00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:27,829
I'm part Native American.
881
00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:29,231
The juniper berry
makes my brains--
882
00:31:29,331 --> 00:31:30,532
TREVOR NOAH: Oh.
883
00:31:30,632 --> 00:31:32,601
I remember at my debutante
ball, I had a slow gin fizz,
884
00:31:32,701 --> 00:31:33,936
and I was supposed to have it.
885
00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:35,637
And I remember someone
said they saw me jumping
886
00:31:35,737 --> 00:31:38,173
off a table in my
mom's wedding dress,
887
00:31:38,273 --> 00:31:39,508
fighting, duking it out.
888
00:31:39,608 --> 00:31:41,643
[laughs]
889
00:31:41,743 --> 00:31:46,715
I think because I've had
four attacks, one as a child,
890
00:31:46,815 --> 00:31:49,651
and then again at seven,
and then 18, and then 20,
891
00:31:49,751 --> 00:31:51,954
I fought family trauma--
892
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,122
many of you know
about from my book.
893
00:31:54,189 --> 00:32:00,028
And I found my pain is deep,
but my joy is infinite.
894
00:32:00,128 --> 00:32:03,432
And I find such joy in
watching these geniuses
895
00:32:03,532 --> 00:32:05,968
escape their genius.
896
00:32:06,134 --> 00:32:06,969
It's scary.
897
00:32:07,135 --> 00:32:08,003
You can't repeat that.
898
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:10,339
Who's going to play
Miles Davis again,
899
00:32:10,439 --> 00:32:11,974
Bitches Brew on a chart?
900
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,409
Who's going to do that?
901
00:32:14,509 --> 00:32:15,744
Nobody.
902
00:32:15,844 --> 00:32:18,080
Who's going to do a lot of
the music that's done today,
903
00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:19,881
and it's not being written
because it's not going to be
904
00:32:19,982 --> 00:32:22,150
played 40, 50 years from now?
905
00:32:22,251 --> 00:32:23,285
That's genius.
906
00:32:23,385 --> 00:32:24,786
And you have to play
it over and over
907
00:32:24,886 --> 00:32:28,490
and over again in your show,
every night, or at a concert.
908
00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:30,892
It's-- what do you do?
909
00:32:30,993 --> 00:32:32,527
Take the fear and anxiety away.
I can do it.
910
00:32:32,628 --> 00:32:33,528
I create it.
911
00:32:33,629 --> 00:32:34,763
I got to do it again--
912
00:32:34,863 --> 00:32:37,633
eight shows a week.
913
00:32:37,733 --> 00:32:41,637
That's a test for yourself
and your discipline.
914
00:32:41,737 --> 00:32:43,705
And you've got this out here.
915
00:32:43,805 --> 00:32:46,008
It's hard to keep it out there.
916
00:32:46,108 --> 00:32:49,578
What genius that you created
note by note, bar by bar,
917
00:32:49,678 --> 00:32:53,382
everyone who writes classical
music, pages, volumes of it,
918
00:32:53,482 --> 00:32:54,716
it's like, yeah,
they're going to do
919
00:32:54,816 --> 00:32:57,219
something because they're going
to have to recreate that--
920
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:58,220
Wow.
921
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,821
--or sell it to someone.
922
00:32:59,922 --> 00:33:02,224
And so when you do that,
and when they say, well,
923
00:33:02,324 --> 00:33:04,726
who's going to fill
my shoes, I said,
924
00:33:04,826 --> 00:33:06,128
it can be filled
because there's
925
00:33:06,194 --> 00:33:09,331
a lot of women that come up
to me and say, Pam, thank you.
926
00:33:09,431 --> 00:33:12,534
I was criticized
for being a tomboy.
927
00:33:12,634 --> 00:33:14,202
No, you ain't a tomboy.
928
00:33:14,303 --> 00:33:16,538
You're a girly
girl, and it's OK.
929
00:33:16,638 --> 00:33:19,341
But just be the best
that you can be.
930
00:33:19,441 --> 00:33:21,009
TREVOR NOAH: That's what
makes you so legendary is
931
00:33:21,109 --> 00:33:22,611
you forged a path.
932
00:33:22,711 --> 00:33:23,912
You know, you
don't know how many
933
00:33:24,012 --> 00:33:25,547
people will be inspired by it.
934
00:33:25,647 --> 00:33:27,115
And now you're there
on the other end,
935
00:33:27,215 --> 00:33:29,918
tying it up again, forging the
path for the next Pam Grier.
936
00:33:30,018 --> 00:33:31,453
Thank you so much for
joining me on the show.
937
00:33:31,553 --> 00:33:32,854
Thank you for being here.
938
00:33:32,955 --> 00:33:36,258
Congratulations on the story,
on your biopic, on your life.
939
00:33:36,358 --> 00:33:37,359
We appreciate you so much.
940
00:33:37,459 --> 00:33:38,393
Pam Grier, everybody.
941
00:33:38,493 --> 00:33:39,528
We're going to
take a quick break.
942
00:33:39,628 --> 00:33:41,797
But we'll be right
back after this.
943
00:33:41,897 --> 00:33:42,798
Thank you so much.
944
00:33:42,898 --> 00:33:44,299
Thank you and congratulations.
945
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:48,036
[cheering]
946
00:33:52,844 --> 00:33:53,678
[cheering]
947
00:33:53,778 --> 00:33:54,713
Well, that's our
show for tonight.
948
00:33:54,813 --> 00:33:55,914
Thank you so much
for tuning in.
949
00:33:56,014 --> 00:33:58,116
Before we go, though, I
just wanted to remind you
950
00:33:58,216 --> 00:34:00,785
that today is Giving Tuesday.
951
00:34:00,886 --> 00:34:03,855
So, please, consider donating
to One Simple Wish, a charity
952
00:34:03,955 --> 00:34:07,025
that grants wishes to kids and
young adults in foster care.
953
00:34:07,125 --> 00:34:08,293
If you want to
help grant a wish
954
00:34:08,393 --> 00:34:10,195
or donate towards their
holiday wish fund,
955
00:34:10,295 --> 00:34:12,130
then, please, do so
at the link below.
956
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:13,965
Until next time,
stay safe out there.
957
00:34:14,065 --> 00:34:15,700
And, remember, USA
will be playing
958
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,869
against the Netherlands
Saturday at 10:00 AM.
959
00:34:17,969 --> 00:34:20,071
So you finally have an excuse
to get drunk in the morning.
960
00:34:20,171 --> 00:34:21,740
Now here it is,
your Moment of Zen.
961
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,774
I'm the mayor.
962
00:34:22,874 --> 00:34:24,776
I'm the mayor of the
City of New York.
963
00:34:24,876 --> 00:34:28,680
If they like it or
not, I'm the mayor.
964
00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:30,815
We getting ready to have
the World Cups here.
965
00:34:30,916 --> 00:34:33,251
It's a huge undertaking.
966
00:34:33,351 --> 00:34:35,153
And I want to-- since
I'm in the region
967
00:34:35,253 --> 00:34:37,622
already, to deal with
the anti-Semitism,
968
00:34:37,722 --> 00:34:40,325
I'm taking a quick
flight on my dime
969
00:34:40,425 --> 00:34:43,161
to go inspect what
is happening there
970
00:34:43,261 --> 00:34:44,262
so that we can be prepared.
971
00:34:44,362 --> 00:34:45,297
It's on my dime.
972
00:34:45,397 --> 00:34:47,165
When I do my dime,
I could do my time,
973
00:34:47,265 --> 00:34:49,000
and I won't hear
one-- anyone wine.
974
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,870
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