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Big news of the day.
Very big, powerful, big news.
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So big, so strong,
greatest news ever, so big.
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Um, an NFL player was banned
for a year for betting on games.
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Yeah.
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And, like, people are angry,
and I'll be honest with you.
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I don't understand it.
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I don't understand why athletes
aren't allowed to bet, you know?
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Why can't they bet on the sport?
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There's a few reasons for me.
Number one-- I think
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you should always be allowed
to bet on yourself.
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You know what I mean? If you
believe in yourself that much,
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bet the money. People are like,
"Oh, no. No gambling."
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No. Bet the money.
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And people would be like, "Oh,
but they shouldn't be allowed
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to bet against themselves."
I think you should.
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You should be allowed to bet
against yourself, as well.
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'Cause sometimes you know truth.
Do you know what I mean?
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Like, if I was a New York Jet,
I would bet against my...
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I know what's going to happen.
Why not make some money from it?
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You know what I mean? Just,
like, that-that kind of thing.
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It should just be public.
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We should know
how they bet, the athletes.
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It should be, like-like, on
the stock exchange type thing.
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They should tell you.
"Yeah, this athlete--
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they bet this,
they bet that, they bet..."
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I'm in for that. But I don't
think this guy should be banned
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for a year for betting,
especially when...
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Have you watched
a football game recently?
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Have you watched any sport?
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Every single ad is
"Sports betting! Bet on sports!
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You need to bet on sports!"
Then this guy bet.
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Then they're like,
"No, you're banned!"
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and his two cents is
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-How you doing?
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You should have
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Think about that.
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And... it's nice out there.
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I dined out there today
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not because I had to.
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I could feel my legs
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-Outside, yeah.
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The city has, you know, removed
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I am de-vaxxed,
I am de-waxed, and...
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Oh, I was supposed to tell you
there's a guy on 42nd Street
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who will sell clean blood
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into today's headlines.
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We kick things off with big news
from the MAGA verse.
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One of Donald Trump's
staunchest supporters
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during his time in office
was William Barr.
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Remember him?
He was the attorney general
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and less friendly
Jabba the Hutt.
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But what's interesting is that
now that Trump is out of office,
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and Barr has a book to sell,
well, he's suddenly not a fan.
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No, no, he's singing
a different tune.
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NEWSWOMAN: Former Attorney
General William Barr speaking ou
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live for the first time
about his volatile time
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in the Trump administration
and his dismantling
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of the president's lies
about the 2020 election.
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BARR: I told them that all
this stuff was bull(bleep)
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and, uh-- about election fraud,
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and, uh, you know,
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it was wrong to be shoveling
it out the way his team was.
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He was obviously
getting very angry about this.
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I said "Okay, well, look, I-I
understand you're upset with me,
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And I'm perfectly happy
to tender my resignation."
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And then-- Boom!
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-He slaps the desk? -He
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"Accepted! Accepted. Don't go
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You're done."
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After the election,
he went off the rails.
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He wouldn't listen
to anybody except
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a little coterie of-of
sycophants who were telling him
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what he wanted to hear.
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I'm sorry, did Bill Bar say
that after the election,
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Trump went off the rails?
That's what he said?
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After the election?
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So, before the election, when
he was trying to nuke hurricanes
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and inject bleach,
that was-that was on the rails?
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That was normal?
You know, it-it feels like
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Trump fans are a lot like
Euphoria fans. You know?
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They act like the thing
got more extreme over time,
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but really it was like
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Yeah, they just hit their limit.
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"Oh, there is so much nudity
in Euphoria these days!"
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My man, it's HBO. Everything
has nudity. Everything.
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Euphoria, Game of Thrones.
I mean, that's why I stopped
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watching John Oliver. Every
episode, "And now, my dick!"
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You didn't have to show
me your dick, John.
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That didn't help me
understand the opioid crisis!
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And here's what all of Trump's
acolytes don't understand:
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He didn't become crazy.
He didn't become that. No, you
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just realized he was crazy when
he started disagreeing with you.
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Like, kamikaze pilots are not
sane when they're taking off.
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You're just agreeing with that
part of the flight. Yeah.
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"So, what time do we land?
What?!"
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But the point, the point is
that, just like John Kelly,
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John Bolton, Michael Cohen, uh,
Omarosa-- remember her?--
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Bill Barr has now come out
and said, "Actually, guys,
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Donald Trump is crazy and was
not fit to be president."
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Yeah.
But before you get all excited
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and welcome Bill Barr
into the resistance,
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you should probably hear
his plans for the next election.
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I certainly have made it clear
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I don't think
he should be our nominee,
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and I'm gonna, you know,
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support somebody else
for the nomination.
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GUTHRIE: But if he is
the nominee and you have...
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your choice is Donald Trump
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or whoever's running
on the Democratic side,
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would you vote for him?
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Uh, because I believe
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that the-the greatest threat
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is the progressive agenda
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being pushed
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it's inconceivable to me
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that I wouldn't vote
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So, even if he lied
about the election
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and threatened democracy,
as you write in your book,
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-better than a Democrat. -Well,
it's h... Well, it's hard...
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It's hard to project
what the facts
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are gonna turn out to be
three years hence,
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but as of now,
it's hard for me to conceive
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that I wouldn't vote
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Yo, man, these people are wild.
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William Barr literally agrees
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that Trump
tried to overthrow the election,
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but still,
he would vote for Trump
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over a Democrat.
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"Yeah, I mean,
maybe Trump's gonna end America
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"and put me in a prison camp,
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"but it's better
than learning new pronouns.
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Am I right?"
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It's actually sad
how in America,
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politics has turned into sports.
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Right? 'Cause this
is like a sports attitude.
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Right? Where people have, like,
this blind level of support.
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You know,
"You support the Knicks?"
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"Yeah, I support the Knicks."
"But what if they start
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doing synchronized swimming,
not basketball?"
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"Oh, I hate that! But I'm
still gonna support them, man.
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"I-I'm a Knicks fan at heart,
you know.
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"Doesn't matter
what they do on the court.
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"Swimming, dancing.
I'm a Knicks fan.
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"I don't want to get a new
jersey. It's a whole new color.
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Now I got to learn new things.
I'm a Knicks fan."
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It's not that. It's not sports.
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It's politics. You know?
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He wrote...
It seems like he wrote the book
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about the wrong thing,
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He says,
"What I'm most passionate about
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is fighting
the progressive agenda."
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Well, write a book about that.
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-(laughs)
-You know? I mean,
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your writing teacher
says to you,
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"Write about what
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not-not "Write what you're
second most passionate about."
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-You know? -That's-that's what
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-He's just...
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They're all heroes
when they leave.
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-Yeah. That's easy.
-"I-I told him.
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you're like, "All right,
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this guy's crazier
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And they're also all heroes when
they got to push their book.
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-Dude, it's always the book.
-The book.
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Yeah. This is what I find.
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-All these people were there.
-Do you mind if I just...
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-if I just push my book
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Oh, I don't have a book. But...
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-Oh, if you did... -I was
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-Oh, you did you very well,
actually. -Thank you.
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Yes. My Time at The Daily Show:
Why I Hated Trevor Noah.
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(chuckles)
When I... How I Resigned on Air.
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(laughs) "I used to tell him
on that show,
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'Ooh, let's move on,'
I used to tell him."
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All right, let's move on
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to some news about Andrew Cuomo,
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the disgraced governor
of New York
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who was never a guest
on The Daily Show!
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If you see pictures of that,
it's a lie.
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Cuomo, you might remember,
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was at the center
of a whole bunch of scandals.
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There was his history
of sexual harassment,
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his shady handling
of the early COVID pandemic,
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and he abused the power
of his office
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by making people watch all
those PowerPoint presentations.
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But now, just seven months
after being forced to resign,
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Andrew Cuomo has decided
that he's served enough time.
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Former Governor Andrew Cuomo's
first public appearance
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since leaving office
has some wondering
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if he's considering
a political comeback.
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Cuomo spoke Sunday at God's
Battalion of Prayer Church
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in Brooklyn. During his remarks,
the former governor repeatedly
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took aim at cancel culture,
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which Cuomo says
forced him out of office.
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Don't underestimate the
strength and the virulence
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of the cancel culture.
They broke my heart.
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But they didn't break my spirit.
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(applause)
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I want to take the energy
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that-that could make me bitter
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and use that energy
to make us better.
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Okay, okay.
First of all, pretty slick move
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delivering that speech
in church. Yeah.
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Because people have to forgive
you even if they don't want to.
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Yeah, Jesus says so.
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And secondly, let's agree
on something, people.
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Let's agree on this, please,
can we agree on this
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once and for all?
Getting canceled
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is not the same thing
as getting investigated
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for sexual harassment.
All right?
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"Canceled" is when people yell
at you on Twitter
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for, like, a joke.
When you're getting canceled,
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you can put your phone on
airplane mode and keep moving.
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That's not what happened
to Andrew Cuomo. Right?
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That wasn't the woke police,
that was the police-police.
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It's a big difference.
"Oh, I was canceled."
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No, hey, my man,
this is a crime.
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Everyone just uses that.
"Aw, I was canceled."
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What were you doing?
"Aw, I kidnapped some people.
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(scoffs) Cancel culture's
out of control."
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It feels like these days
people can blame
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literally anything
on cancel culture.
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"Mommy, wh-why is the fish
upside down in the bowl?"
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"Oh, cancel culture, Timmy.
Yeah, that fish is gone now.
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So sorry about it,"
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I guess, in many ways,
this comeback effort
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is classic Andrew Cuomo, though.
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Nobody asked him to come back,
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but he's gonna
make a move anyway. Yeah.
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People are like, "We don't want
you back, Governor." He's like,
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"It's fine, I'm Italian.
Let's kiss on the mouth.
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-Mwah, mwah, mwah."
-(Kosta laughs)
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I... You know,
I don't think he's running.
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I think... since he lost his job
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-and since his brother
lost his job... -Uh-huh.
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I think they're
living together,
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on the bunk beds and he just
wants to get out of the house.
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Didn't it kind of feel like
he was just happy to get out?
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-It does seem like that.
-Yeah. I...
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He's blaming cancel culture
for everything the way that
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-I use "supply chain."
That's my... -Oh.
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You know, "Hey, I called you ten
times, you didn't call me back."
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I did call you back.
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There must be a supply chain
issue. you know?
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My wife was like, "I love you."
You know, "You don't
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say it enough." I said, "Look,
that's a supply chain question.
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You know?"
I don't know
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if I can just-- So...
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You know what's funny
is we don't understand
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the supply chain enough
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to know how
to argue back against.
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-Right. -That's actually
a brilliant thing.
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-Any problem: supply chain,
yeah. -Supply chain.
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I'm gonna say that next time
the landlord comes.
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-"Trevor, you haven't
paid the..." -Yeah.
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-"S... The... supply chain.
-I was in the elevator,
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someone's like, "Can you
hit number 12?" And I'm like,
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"Yo, supply chain.
I can't do that." You know?
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-That was brilliant.
-Yeah.
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Wait, wait, wait, I asked you
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about my birthday present
and you said "supply chain."
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-Was that the same thing?
-It's been...
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Look, it...
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Supply chain's been a problem
for a lot a--
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-long time. (laughs)
-(laughs)
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All right, finally,
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do you guys remember
that Canadian trucker protest
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that shut down the border
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and forced you to learn
the capital of Canada
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a few weeks ago?
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Yeah, you probably remember it.
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Where the truckers
blocked the streets for weeks
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to show their outrage
over COVID vaccine mandates
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and other
Canadian government tyranny,
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like free health care
and education.
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Anyway, some Americans saw
what happened in Canada
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and they said,
"Hey, we have trucks, too.
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-Why not do that here?"
-(horn honks)
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But, sadly,
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the result
has been less impressive.
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A caravan of pro-Trump,
antivaccine truckers
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modeled after
the Canadian freedom convoy
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has reached
the nation's capital.
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The People's Convoy
traveled across the country
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to reach Washington, D.C.,
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starting in California
last month.
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The caravan planned to circle
the capital several times
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and then return
to their home base in Maryland,
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but a number of them
were sort of-- were frustrated
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by the traffic on the Beltway,
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of course,
surrounding Washington D.C.
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and did not complete the laps
they had hoped.
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The protest
slowed down traffic a little,
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but the truckers did not know
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that the Beltway is like that
all the time.
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So the protest ended up having
a far smaller impact
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than the Canadian protest
that inspired it in our states.
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Aw, man, this is just sad.
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American truckers were trying
to block traffic,
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but D.C. already has
so much traffic
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that nobody really noticed
they were protesting.
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And, I mean, let's be honest--
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a protest isn't much good
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if it's too subtle for people
to know it's a protest.
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Yeah. It's like if Rosa Parks
bravely decided
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to sit in the middle
of the bus--
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just wouldn't be the same.
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Yeah, the bus driver
would be at the front like,
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"Is that Black woman sitting...
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Ah, whatever."
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Also, I bet when these truckers
planned the driving protest,
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they didn't think that gas
was gonna hit $5 a gallon.
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Yeah, that's a horrible time
to be driving as your protest,
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because now they're praying
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the cops tow them away
just to save on gas.
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"Do you see what I'm doing?
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"What, you want
to tow me back home?
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"Please, man, I need you
to tow me back home.
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I didn't plan this part."
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You'd think if anybody
is comfortable with traffic,
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-it would be truckers.
-(chuckles)
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Isn't that
the whole definition of the job?
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It is, isn't it? It's actually
a very hard job. You're right.
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It's a hard job. And
I always feel bad for truckers,
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'cause, even on their day off,
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if they want to go somewhere,
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they got to drive.
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They got to work.
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-I didn't think of that. -And
timing is everything with this.
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It doesn't help them
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that vaccine mandates
are being pulled off
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and-and the mask. It's like,
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you know, "What do we want?
No mandates.
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When do we want 'em?"
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This morning.
We-we ended it this morning.
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-You know?
It's already happened. -(laughs)
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I would just say
that the protest was successful.
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I wouldn't admit
that the thing happened.
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-Right. -I would just be like,
"How was the protest?
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-We got everything
we asked for." -Yeah.
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Imagine if Martin Luther King
came, he's like,
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"I have a dream. What?
What? It already happened?
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-Oh. That was reality."
-(chuckling)
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All right, everybody,
we got to go for a quick break.
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Uh, but don't go away,
because, when we come back,
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we'll be looking at how Putin
is not just waging war
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on Ukraine but also on
his own people in Russia.
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Yeah. I know.
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I'm starting to think
this guy's not a good dude.
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We'll be right back.
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Welcome back
to The Daily Show.
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It is now day 12
of Russia's invasion of Ukraine,
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or as Putin calls it,
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Russia's relaxing
shoulder massage of Ukraine.
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So let's catch up
on all the latest
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in our ongoing coverage
of the war in Ukraine.
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♪ ♪
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Despite the world telling
Vladimir Putin
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that he's being not nice,
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the Russian military has
continued
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its indiscriminate bombing
of civilian areas in Ukraine,
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reducing them to rubble
and leaving the people there
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without homes,
food or even water.
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And when the civilians tried
to flee those cities,
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well, it turns out that Russia
has been bombing them, too.
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NEWSMAN: More and more
civilians being killed
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as Russia escalates
its attacks here.
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People trying
to flee the invasion struck
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at an evacuation crossing point.
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NEWSWOMAN: Twice Russia and
Ukraine agreed to ceasefires,
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in order to give people a chance
to get out.
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Both times,
Russia broke the ceasefires
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with violent,
indiscriminate shelling.
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(speaking foreign language)
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(loud explosion,
debris clattering)
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NEWSWOMAN: At least four people,
including a woman
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and her two children,
were killed in that attack.
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NEWSMAN 2: "We will not forgive,
we will not forget."
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Ukraine's president Zelensky
vows to punish Moscow's troops
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as he reacts to the killing
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of civilians attempting
to flee the conflict.
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(speaking foreign language)
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NEWSMAN 3:
"We will find every (bleep)
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"that shot at our cities,
our people.
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"There will be no quiet place
on this earth for you
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except for the grave."
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Sweet Jesus, this is insane.
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Like, it's bad enough
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that Russia is blowing Ukraine
to smithereens,
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but it's even worse
that they are bombing people
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who are trying to escape
during a ceasefire
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that Russia agreed to.
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I mean,
what's Russia's logic here?
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I honestly don't get it.
What is it?
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First, we murder the people.
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Then they'll warm up to us
as their new rulers?
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What's the plan?
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And today,
after attacking civilians
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during the first two
evacuation attempts,
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Russia offered to create
new humanitarian corridors
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to allow people
to escape these cities, except--
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and you can't
make this part up--
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many of the evacuation routes
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would funnel civilians
straight into Russia.
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Which is insane.
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Like, just think about that
for a moment.
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People are trying to escape,
and you're like,
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"We'll let them escape,
but into our country."
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Like,
imagine hostage takers saying,
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"All right, we'll let
the hostages leave.
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"We'll let them leave the bank,
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but only if they come
with us to our house."
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Then they're still hostages!
Are you insane?
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00:16:44,002 --> 00:16:46,605
I mean, not to mention even
refugees probably don't want to
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live in Russia right now.
Things aren't great in Ukraine,
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00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:51,510
but at least they
still get The Batman.
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There's nothing in Russia.
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And because many Russians
have family members who are
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living in Ukraine, the idea
of the Russian military
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leveling Ukrainian cities
and killing innocent people
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was never going to be popular
in the first place.
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00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:06,692
Which is probably why Putin
has now gone into overdrive
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00:17:06,792 --> 00:17:11,296
to make sure that, in Russia,
nobody hears about it.
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00:17:11,396 --> 00:17:13,332
Well, a new Iron Curtain
has fallen in Russia,
448
00:17:13,432 --> 00:17:16,368
and this time it's an
Information Iron Curtain.
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That's why most Russians
don't know
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what's really happening
in Ukraine.
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The Kremlin today
blocked Facebook and Twitter,
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and there are no independent
media outlets left.
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NEWSWOMAN: Vladimir Putin
signing a law tonight
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making it a crime to spread
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what the Russian government
considers "fake news"
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about the conflict in Ukraine.
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The maximum penalty:
15 years jail.
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Independent Russian news outlets
have always found it difficult
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to operate.
Now it's impossible.
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The staff at Moscow's
last independent TV station
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walking off set as their final
symbolic broadcast played out,
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NEWSWOMAN 2: A similar scene
played out at Russia's
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oldest liberal radio station,
"Echo of Moscow,"
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which says it's
been forced to close.
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WOMAN: We just can say,
"Welcome to the USSR."
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Yeah, just think about
that for a moment.
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The only place to get any news
in Russia now
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is state media.
That's it.
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00:18:12,224 --> 00:18:15,961
Putin even shut down
Facebook in Russia.
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Which is so messed up.
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Like, why couldn't he
have shut it down everywhere?
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Why only in Russia?
This man's truly evil.
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We also want
a break from Facebook.
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I mean, on the plus side,
the one silver lining of this
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is that everyone is getting
the exact same news in Russia,
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00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,879
which means Russian family
dinners are probably gonna be,
477
00:18:33,979 --> 00:18:36,448
like, the least-contentious
affairs ever.
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00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:38,450
Especially way more
than American family dinners.
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00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:42,454
"Well, I heard the war
in Ukraine is going well."
480
00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:44,790
"Oh, yeah? I heard
481
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:48,327
the same thing. Yeah.
More stuffing, please."
482
00:18:48,427 --> 00:18:51,130
♪ Happy Thanksgiving,
we're Russians together ♪
483
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:54,366
♪ Enjoying same news
so we don't disagree. ♪
484
00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:57,002
They sing during Thanksgiving
in Russia.
485
00:18:57,102 --> 00:18:58,771
You can't prove
that I'm not lying
486
00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:01,907
because there's
no Facebook there anymore.
487
00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:05,711
Now, many Russian people
are against this war.
488
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:09,348
In fact, over 4,000 protesters
were arrested just yesterday.
489
00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:12,751
But for most of the country,
this media blackout
490
00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:14,253
means that they'll
never know the truth
491
00:19:14,353 --> 00:19:15,587
about what's really going on.
492
00:19:15,687 --> 00:19:17,423
Yeah. There are in...
There are even stories
493
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:20,959
of Ukrainians who have called
their parents in Russia
494
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,594
to tell them what is happening,
495
00:19:22,694 --> 00:19:26,064
and their own parents
don't believe the stories.
496
00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:28,066
Which is terrible.
497
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:30,269
And at the same time,
I guess that's what happens
498
00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:31,437
when you lie to your parents
499
00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:32,838
about everything else
in your life.
500
00:19:32,971 --> 00:19:34,373
"Oh, sure, Putin's invading you.
501
00:19:34,473 --> 00:19:36,575
"Just like that time
you didn't throw a party
502
00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:38,377
when we were out of town, huh?"
503
00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,612
But while Putin is cutting off
Russian people's links
504
00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:42,981
to the outside world,
the outside world itself
505
00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:45,484
has been trying
to cut itself off from Russia.
506
00:19:45,584 --> 00:19:47,219
Russian banks have been banned
507
00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:48,554
from
the global financial system,
508
00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:50,422
Russian airlines
have been blocked
509
00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:52,124
from entering most countries,
510
00:19:52,224 --> 00:19:55,994
and even Apple has stopped
selling its products in Russia.
511
00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:59,898
Which means Russians
can't watch Ted Lasso anymore.
512
00:19:59,998 --> 00:20:02,868
It's terrible for them,
probably fine for Putin.
513
00:20:03,001 --> 00:20:04,369
'Cause, I mean,
if a show has no villain,
514
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,038
who's he supposed to root for?
515
00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:08,574
And every day, every single day,
516
00:20:08,674 --> 00:20:12,211
more companies are joining Apple
and all these other companies
517
00:20:12,311 --> 00:20:13,946
in leaving Russia.
518
00:20:13,979 --> 00:20:15,214
NEWSWOMAN:
The list of private companies
519
00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:17,750
cutting ties with Russia
is mounting.
520
00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:20,686
Visa, Mastercard
and American Express
521
00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:22,454
are boycotting business there.
522
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:25,858
TikTok is blocking users
on its platform in Russia,
523
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:29,094
and Netflix announced
it has suspended service.
524
00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:30,963
NEWSWOMAN 2: Toyota says
that they are putting a halt
525
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:33,298
to its factory
in production in Russia.
526
00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:35,100
This comes
as the vehicle imports
527
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,870
into the country have been
suspended indefinitely.
528
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:40,973
NEWSMAN: Accounting firms KPMG
and PricewaterhouseCoopers
529
00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:44,343
both announced they are exiting
Russia due to the invasion.
530
00:20:44,443 --> 00:20:46,311
NEWSMAN 2:
From now on, it's just Stoli.
531
00:20:46,411 --> 00:20:47,646
The maker of the vodka,
532
00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:49,448
which has been marketed
as Russian vodka,
533
00:20:49,548 --> 00:20:51,417
is launching a major rebranding
534
00:20:51,517 --> 00:20:53,719
in direct response
to the war in Ukraine.
535
00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:54,887
Now Stoli Group has announced
536
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,989
that it will only use
Slovakian sources
537
00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:59,758
to avoid Russian ingredients.
538
00:20:59,858 --> 00:21:01,326
Yeah,
that's how bad it's gotten.
539
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:04,997
Even vodka doesn't want anything
to do with Russia anymore.
540
00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:06,465
Just think about that.
541
00:21:06,565 --> 00:21:09,468
Can you imagines
if hand gestures announced
542
00:21:09,568 --> 00:21:11,370
that they wanted
nothing to do with Italy?
543
00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:13,439
(Italian accent):
It's-a too toxic.
544
00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:15,073
(regular accent):
So, yeah, no Toyota,
545
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:18,410
no credit cards, no Netflix.
546
00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:21,046
It's almost like all of Russia
is being forced
547
00:21:21,146 --> 00:21:23,849
to spend the weekend
at their broke dad's house.
548
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:26,018
But unfortunately,
none of this has stopped
549
00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:27,953
Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
550
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:31,190
Probably because none of it
is actually affects Putin.
551
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:32,391
It's what people don't realize.
552
00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:34,426
Sanctions are bad
for the country,
553
00:21:34,526 --> 00:21:37,062
but this doesn't effect Putin.
'Cause, I mean,
554
00:21:37,162 --> 00:21:40,432
Putin doesn't drive a Toyota.
Putin doesn't watch Netflix.
555
00:21:40,532 --> 00:21:42,768
Or use credit cards.
You think this man pays?
556
00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:44,803
The man hasn't paid for anything
in, like, 20 years.
557
00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:48,407
Which waiter has the balls to
bring Vladimir Putin the check?
558
00:21:48,507 --> 00:21:51,110
Um, will you be paying
by cash or card?
559
00:21:51,210 --> 00:21:53,479
Um, will you
be paying with your life?
560
00:21:53,579 --> 00:21:55,447
Okay, well, I guess
we'll see you guys next time.
561
00:21:55,547 --> 00:21:58,183
All right then,
have a good night. Drama.
562
00:21:58,283 --> 00:22:00,252
Yeah, if anything, people,
the war has only
563
00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:02,254
gotten more intense.
Russia made major gains
564
00:22:02,354 --> 00:22:04,323
in southern Ukraine,
and looks like
565
00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:08,127
it may totally surround
the capitol of Kyiv this week.
566
00:22:08,227 --> 00:22:10,629
So the Ukrainian people are
in a very bad place right now.
567
00:22:10,729 --> 00:22:13,365
Which is why it's been
so inspiring to see
568
00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,635
how they're still, still
telling the Russian invaders
569
00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:19,171
to go (bleep) themselves.
570
00:22:19,271 --> 00:22:21,140
NEWSWOMAN: Thousands of people
taking to the streets
571
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,009
to rail against
their Russian occupiers,
572
00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:27,346
in a show, really,
that while Russian forces
573
00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:30,516
might be able to take some
of these towns and cities,
574
00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:33,619
occupying them
will be much more difficult.
575
00:22:33,719 --> 00:22:36,054
In Kherson, Ukraine, defiance.
576
00:22:36,155 --> 00:22:39,191
Residents woke up
under Russian occupation
577
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,126
and took to the streets.
578
00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:44,963
...this man says.
579
00:22:44,997 --> 00:22:48,133
This woman, draped in her
country's colors, stands firm.
580
00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:51,970
...she says.
581
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:55,140
Some incredible vi-- uh, video
out of Kherson, Ukraine,
582
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,675
where a Ukrainian
protester, uh,
583
00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:59,511
jumped onto a Russian
military vehicle
584
00:22:59,611 --> 00:23:01,246
waving his country's flag.
585
00:23:01,346 --> 00:23:03,549
Uh, there it is, right there.
586
00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:05,684
Yeah, people,
in the face of mortal danger,
587
00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:08,053
many Ukrainians are
standing up and saying,
588
00:23:08,153 --> 00:23:10,956
"We won't back down."
589
00:23:12,124 --> 00:23:13,459
I mean, did you see
that one guy? He climbed
590
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:17,396
right on top of a tank.
Which is insane.
591
00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:19,298
It's also insane
how tanks have, like,
592
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:22,267
zero defenses against that.
If you're in front of a tank,
593
00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:24,670
it's terrifying. "Aah!"
But then, once you get on top,
594
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:27,106
the tank is like,
"Aah! Aah! Get off!
595
00:23:27,206 --> 00:23:30,609
Aah! Stop that.
Aah! Stop that!"
596
00:23:30,709 --> 00:23:32,444
And this really shows
you the difference
597
00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:35,147
between capturing a city
and controlling a city.
598
00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:36,682
You see,
capturing a city is easy.
599
00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:38,650
You send in more tanks than
the other team and then, boom,
600
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:42,521
it's yours. But if you can't
stop the old man in town
601
00:23:42,621 --> 00:23:44,256
from coming out
and roasting you,
602
00:23:44,356 --> 00:23:46,391
have you really won?
603
00:23:46,492 --> 00:23:47,593
Yeah, you haven't.
604
00:23:47,693 --> 00:23:49,228
You haven't really won
the invasion
605
00:23:49,328 --> 00:23:51,563
if your soldiers
are coming back home like...
606
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:53,966
(crying):
"We-we took the city,
607
00:23:53,999 --> 00:23:56,335
"but now everyone is being mean
608
00:23:56,435 --> 00:24:00,072
to me..."
609
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,740
Ukrainians
are braving this invasion
610
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,408
with defiance and courage.
611
00:24:03,509 --> 00:24:07,746
And, and there was
one specific Ukrainian
612
00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:09,515
that a British reporter
caught up with
613
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:12,084
who seems to know the secret
614
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,019
to not just coping
with the possible destruction
615
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,320
of your country
616
00:24:15,421 --> 00:24:17,055
but smiling while doing it.
617
00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:18,724
Tell me quickly,
are you all right?
618
00:24:18,824 --> 00:24:19,958
I'm all right.
619
00:24:20,058 --> 00:24:21,960
And h-how many people
are trapped in there?
620
00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:28,000
-British. British. British.
-British?
621
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,802
How many more...
622
00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:33,071
-Pardon?
-Uh...
623
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,910
(chuckles) I don't know whether
cannab-cannabis is licensed.
624
00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:40,179
I'm glad that's all
you're thinking about.
625
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,581
Yeah.
You guys can have Zelensky.
626
00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:45,150
I just found
my favorite Ukrainian.
627
00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:47,486
Yeah, because you see that guy?
(chuckles)
628
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:49,054
Like, I don't know about you--
when I smoke weed,
629
00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:51,323
I can barely handle the stress
of the doorbell ringing.
630
00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:52,991
This guy's in a war zone
631
00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:54,393
getting questioned
by a journalist,
632
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:55,427
and he's chilled AF.
633
00:24:55,527 --> 00:24:56,829
In fact, he's questioning her.
634
00:24:56,929 --> 00:24:58,597
"Let me ask you some questions.
Hey, let me ask you."
635
00:24:58,697 --> 00:25:01,266
Like, she's flustered, like,
"Wait, what's going on here?"
636
00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:02,768
I almost think
this guy doesn't even know
637
00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:04,470
that there's a war going on.
You know?
638
00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:07,773
He probably thinks that he's got
some really good kush.
639
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:10,442
"Eh, I should have had
half the brownie, man.
640
00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:13,545
I'm seeing tanks everywhere.
Goddamn."
641
00:25:13,645 --> 00:25:16,048
But this really just goes
to show you,
642
00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:18,317
it doesn't matter
where you are in the world,
643
00:25:18,417 --> 00:25:21,487
it doesn't matter
what language you speak,
644
00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,555
in every country,
645
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,891
on every continent,
646
00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:29,228
there's always one weird
high guy on the bus.
647
00:25:29,328 --> 00:25:30,763
And that...
648
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,164
brings us together.
649
00:25:32,264 --> 00:25:33,866
All right, when we come back,
650
00:25:33,999 --> 00:25:35,367
the multitalented Jesse Williams
651
00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,002
will be joining me
right here in the studio
652
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,772
to talk about getting naked
onstage.
653
00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:41,607
So stay tuned.
654
00:25:43,374 --> 00:25:44,876
Welcome back
to The Daily show.
655
00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:47,111
My guest is actor, producer
and director Jesse Williams.
656
00:25:47,211 --> 00:25:50,214
He's here to talk
about making his Broadway debut
657
00:25:50,314 --> 00:25:51,649
in the show Take Me Out.
658
00:25:51,749 --> 00:25:53,651
Jesse Williams, welcome back
to The Daily Show.
659
00:25:53,751 --> 00:25:55,787
-Thanks for having me again.
-Um, you think
660
00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:57,822
you're gonna do it this time?
'Cause the last time I saw you,
661
00:25:57,922 --> 00:25:59,757
you were getting ready
to go to Broadway,
662
00:25:59,857 --> 00:26:01,526
you were getting ready
to make your debut,
663
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:04,262
and I will never forget it.
It was around February 2020,
664
00:26:04,362 --> 00:26:05,763
and you were like, "Oh,
you got to come to the show.
665
00:26:05,863 --> 00:26:07,365
-You got to..."
Everyone made plan. -Yeah.
666
00:26:07,465 --> 00:26:09,667
World shut down. Second time
around, you feeling good?
667
00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:11,669
I do. I feel great.
I mean, we were...
668
00:26:11,769 --> 00:26:14,005
Yeah, we were three weeks
into rehearsal. It was...
669
00:26:14,105 --> 00:26:17,308
I was nervous, I was terrified,
all things I still am today,
670
00:26:17,408 --> 00:26:19,710
but, um, we never got
to take it to the next step.
671
00:26:19,811 --> 00:26:22,013
So now, we're in tech,
we're opening in a few days.
672
00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:24,916
Um, and it's, uh,
thrilling and terrifying,
673
00:26:25,016 --> 00:26:27,585
-and we're ready to go. -It's
not just your Broadway debut.
674
00:26:27,685 --> 00:26:30,188
-But I mean, it's a play
that's a revival... -Yeah.
675
00:26:30,288 --> 00:26:31,756
...but it's a powerful story,
as well.
676
00:26:31,856 --> 00:26:33,758
Because it's a story
of a baseball player
677
00:26:33,858 --> 00:26:36,828
of color who comes out.
678
00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:38,963
And I mean, and along, you know,
amongst all sports,
679
00:26:39,063 --> 00:26:41,666
athletes will tell you, "Look,
I've got nothing against anybody
680
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:43,534
who's gay," but there's this
attitude and this feeling...
681
00:26:43,634 --> 00:26:45,036
-Yeah. -...in changing rooms.
It was like,
682
00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:46,471
"Just keep it out of...
you know, keep it out
683
00:26:46,571 --> 00:26:48,005
"of the change... Don't tell me
about it." You know?
684
00:26:48,105 --> 00:26:49,340
Right, right. The locker room
is a pretty specific space.
685
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,342
-Yes.
-Hypermasculine space.
686
00:26:51,442 --> 00:26:53,611
Brings a lot
of baggage in there.
687
00:26:53,711 --> 00:26:55,513
Now, Richard Greenberg,
who wrote the play,
688
00:26:55,613 --> 00:26:57,181
envisioned this
in the early 2000s,
689
00:26:57,348 --> 00:27:01,419
-and he figured it was imminent
that a superstar... -Wow.
690
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:03,621
...you know, not just a player,
but a superstar,
691
00:27:03,721 --> 00:27:06,591
top of his class,
world-class athlete
692
00:27:06,691 --> 00:27:08,493
-that was kind of untouchable.
-Yes.
693
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:10,761
What would happen
if that person came out?
694
00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:13,664
Um, because you can't trade him,
you can't release him.
695
00:27:13,764 --> 00:27:15,032
This is somebody
who is really at the pinnacle
696
00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:16,567
of their profession.
What would happen there?
697
00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:18,369
And he thought it was gonna
happen a year from then.
698
00:27:18,469 --> 00:27:20,171
20 years have passed,
still hasn't happened
699
00:27:20,271 --> 00:27:22,507
-in any American major sport
at that level. -Right.
700
00:27:22,607 --> 00:27:24,408
Um, never...
701
00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:26,043
And then, add to that
him being Black.
702
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,246
Um, add to that him being
biracial specifically...
703
00:27:28,379 --> 00:27:30,014
-Right, right, right.
-...and what that represents
704
00:27:30,114 --> 00:27:31,582
in this country and doesn't.
705
00:27:31,682 --> 00:27:33,217
Um, so it explores
a lot of that.
706
00:27:33,384 --> 00:27:34,685
And one of the things
that's most fascinating to me is
707
00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:37,388
that the character--
without giving too much away--
708
00:27:37,421 --> 00:27:41,893
doesn't change or shift
or do anything behavioral
709
00:27:41,993 --> 00:27:45,329
-to provoke or let men
hide behind behavior. -Yes.
710
00:27:45,363 --> 00:27:46,998
-Yes. -"Oh, you know, I don't
mind that he's gay, but I wish
711
00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:48,332
he didn't do this..." "I don't
mind that he's gay, wish he
712
00:27:48,399 --> 00:27:49,801
-didn't act this way, or..."
-Right, right.
713
00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:51,736
He's not doing anything. This
guy is the alpha, best player
714
00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:54,539
in the world, best player on
the team, championship team,
715
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:57,108
he hasn't changed
anything, but said a word.
716
00:27:57,208 --> 00:27:59,477
And look how men
contort themselves and shape...
717
00:27:59,577 --> 00:28:01,446
They don't know how to behave
around him. They don't know how
718
00:28:01,546 --> 00:28:03,014
to present themselves
-Right, right.
719
00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:06,851
And it takes away, you know, an
interesting locker room dynamic
720
00:28:06,951 --> 00:28:10,788
where guys are able to be kind
of playful and homoerotic
721
00:28:10,888 --> 00:28:12,890
-and maybe intolerant, and...
-(laughing) Yeah. Yes.
722
00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:14,459
You know, all those
things that get woven into
723
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,861
locker room culture. Now, what
do you do when I'm there?
724
00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:19,464
When you're a story like this,
one thing I've always loved
725
00:28:19,564 --> 00:28:23,501
about fiction is that it-it
oftentimes provides enough sugar
726
00:28:23,601 --> 00:28:25,269
-for us to delve into facts.
You know? -Mm-hmm. Yeah.
727
00:28:25,369 --> 00:28:27,538
It's that through stories
we get to solve all the puzzles
728
00:28:27,638 --> 00:28:31,042
-that we can't seem to solve in
real life. You know? -Yeah.
729
00:28:31,142 --> 00:28:32,844
Like I-I know a lot of guys
out there who would be,
730
00:28:32,944 --> 00:28:34,412
"I'm fine with guys who are
gay." And then you go, like,
731
00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:36,114
"What if your friend's gay?"
"Ah, that's not, that's not
732
00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:37,648
"cool. Look, We got to keep our
distance, man. -Right.
733
00:28:37,748 --> 00:28:39,450
We gotta keep our distance,
but I'm still cool with him."
734
00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:40,685
And I go, "What changed?"
735
00:28:40,785 --> 00:28:42,086
-Yeah. -And it's interesting
when you realize
736
00:28:42,186 --> 00:28:44,956
that there's still an idea
of what gay is or isn't
737
00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:46,591
-and how we react to it.
-Yes.
738
00:28:46,691 --> 00:28:49,227
And that's actually one
of the more interesting things,
739
00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:51,095
that there's that idea
of what that means.
740
00:28:51,195 --> 00:28:53,965
And if you... But if you don't
behave in a different way,
741
00:28:54,065 --> 00:28:55,766
it leaves you kind of flailing
742
00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:58,069
for something to grasp at
that makes you...
743
00:28:58,169 --> 00:29:00,338
What does... What does gay mean
without a demonstrable...
744
00:29:00,371 --> 00:29:01,739
Very much like blackness.
745
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:03,541
-Yes. -Right? Like, you know,
in a lot of media,
746
00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:04,976
blackness
has to be demonstrated.
747
00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:06,244
-Right. Right.
-It has to be shown
748
00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:10,114
in some really narrow,
uh, pedantic way.
749
00:29:10,214 --> 00:29:12,617
Um, but with this,
you know, the dy...
750
00:29:12,717 --> 00:29:15,553
The friendships that Darren has,
they're very different,
751
00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:17,255
He's got a best friend
that handles it one way.
752
00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:18,856
There's religion
comes into play.
753
00:29:18,956 --> 00:29:22,059
There's a projection
of-of aggression,
754
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,694
there's projection
of prying eyes,
755
00:29:23,795 --> 00:29:26,697
of me, you know,
being a predator in some ways
756
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:28,065
when I'm not even looking
at you.
757
00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:29,934
There's all types of things
that we forecast
758
00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:31,369
that is a kind of a reflection
759
00:29:31,402 --> 00:29:33,237
of what women have to deal with
in our society,
760
00:29:33,371 --> 00:29:35,072
what Black folks have
to deal with in our society.
761
00:29:35,173 --> 00:29:37,608
It comes with, and, you know,
your presence alone
762
00:29:37,708 --> 00:29:39,243
is two strikes out of three.
763
00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:40,745
- Um, so, so it's a...
-I like that.
764
00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:42,413
So, you get to see how-how...
765
00:29:42,513 --> 00:29:44,182
Um, it's really
an interesting examination
766
00:29:44,315 --> 00:29:48,052
of relationship and the damage
that talking can do.
767
00:29:48,152 --> 00:29:50,321
Expressing yourself too much.
768
00:29:50,354 --> 00:29:52,323
Honesty,
which feels like a pathway in,
769
00:29:52,423 --> 00:29:54,759
-can sometimes...
-Yes. Not be the best policy.
770
00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:56,928
Not necessarily. You know, so,
there's cultural dynamics.
771
00:29:57,028 --> 00:29:58,229
We give a bias towards...
772
00:29:58,329 --> 00:29:59,864
There's
an interesting undercurrent
773
00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:01,499
of white privilege in this story
774
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:02,900
that I think
is really interesting,
775
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,435
whether, uh, intended or not.
776
00:30:04,535 --> 00:30:07,338
Um, 'cause Darren
is not only gay, but he's Black.
777
00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:09,340
-Yes. -And he's one of very few
Black characters in this play.
778
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,608
So there is a pretty...
779
00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:12,376
There's an island
I'm already on.
780
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,945
-That's fascinating, man.
-Yeah.
781
00:30:14,045 --> 00:30:15,746
-I can't wait to come and see
it. -It's incredibly written.
782
00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:17,348
-It's really...
That's why I'm doing it. -Yeah.
783
00:30:17,415 --> 00:30:19,417
It's really wonderful,
smart material.
784
00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:21,052
Incredible director. Great cast.
785
00:30:21,152 --> 00:30:24,755
You are also going to be nude
in some of the...
786
00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:26,491
-in some of the scenes, yeah?
-What?
787
00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:28,659
-Yeah. Yeah.
-Yeah.
788
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,229
-Yeah, it's happening.
It's real. -This is, uh...
789
00:30:31,362 --> 00:30:33,131
-This is onstage.
-It's-it's onstage.
790
00:30:33,231 --> 00:30:35,099
-It's, uh, no clothes.
-I-I don't think
791
00:30:35,199 --> 00:30:36,601
I would ever do public nudity,
792
00:30:36,701 --> 00:30:39,537
but I think I would definitely
not do nudity on Broadway,
793
00:30:39,637 --> 00:30:41,606
because I think, like, on film,
I feel like I could be like,
794
00:30:41,706 --> 00:30:44,308
"Cut. I'm not feeling
my best right now."
795
00:30:44,342 --> 00:30:45,810
-Uh-huh.
-Broadway is Broadway.
796
00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:48,446
-So, you-- -Yeah, this is very
helpful, I appreciate you
797
00:30:48,546 --> 00:30:51,015
telling me all the things you
wouldn't do that I'm doing.
798
00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:54,585
No, no, no, what I'm saying
is I'm-I'm commending you
799
00:30:54,685 --> 00:30:57,221
and I'm asking you, because
there is a certain comfort
800
00:30:57,321 --> 00:30:59,390
that comes with the story
and the setting.
801
00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:01,759
And there's a realism that comes
with it as well, by the way.
802
00:31:01,859 --> 00:31:04,195
You can't have
a conversation about
803
00:31:04,328 --> 00:31:07,331
masculinity and power dynamics
in a major sports team
804
00:31:07,431 --> 00:31:09,133
without being in the
locker room. A locker room,
805
00:31:09,233 --> 00:31:12,370
-especially around "homosexual,"
um, expectations. -Yes.
806
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:14,672
It's about exposure,
vulnerability.
807
00:31:14,772 --> 00:31:16,741
What do I do?
Where do my eyes have to go now?
808
00:31:16,841 --> 00:31:18,609
And there's really
interesting analysis through
809
00:31:18,709 --> 00:31:21,779
the-- through conversation
in the play about that.
810
00:31:21,879 --> 00:31:24,882
What the-what
the brief nudity does
811
00:31:24,982 --> 00:31:27,618
-is bring the audience
into our experience. -Yes.
812
00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:30,254
Yes, this is wh-- You have
to decide where to look.
813
00:31:30,354 --> 00:31:31,923
You have to-- Are you listening?
Can you look and listen?
814
00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:33,891
Can you be here?
Are you distracted? Does he
815
00:31:33,991 --> 00:31:35,993
see me looking? Do I have to
look up? Do I have to avoid?
816
00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:37,595
-What do I do?
So, the audience -I love that.
817
00:31:37,695 --> 00:31:40,131
has to really experience
what the characters
818
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:42,700
are going through and
then that helps them understand,
819
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,102
who do they empathize with,
what do they understand?
820
00:31:45,203 --> 00:31:46,571
Lot of complex dynamics.
821
00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:48,372
One of the most fascinating
things is having arguments
822
00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:51,175
where both characters are right.
823
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:52,477
Right? That's like real life.
824
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:53,945
-That's like arguing
with your partner. -Yeah.
825
00:31:54,045 --> 00:31:56,914
-You know? And reflecting on it
two scenes later. -Mm-hmm.
826
00:31:57,014 --> 00:32:00,785
So there's a real relatability
to how messy this stuff is.
827
00:32:00,885 --> 00:32:02,386
-Life is hard.
-I love it, man.
828
00:32:02,487 --> 00:32:04,555
It's, uh... it's exciting
to see you onstage.
829
00:32:04,655 --> 00:32:06,657
It's gonna be great to see you
doing this for the first time.
830
00:32:06,757 --> 00:32:08,059
-Thank you for coming
on the show. -Thanks very much.
831
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:10,194
If we, uh, get extended,
there might be a role for you
832
00:32:10,328 --> 00:32:12,797
in there,
if you want to whip it out.
833
00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:13,898
Uh...
834
00:32:13,998 --> 00:32:14,932
Think about it.
835
00:32:15,032 --> 00:32:16,801
I-I will--
I will think about it.
836
00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:18,636
Okay. Just take it
under advisement.
837
00:32:18,736 --> 00:32:20,371
-Put it under your hat.
-Yeah.
838
00:32:20,471 --> 00:32:22,440
Let's, uh-- let's go-- let's
go-- let's go for a quick break
839
00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:23,508
-while I think about this.
-(laughs)
840
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,610
Uh, Take Me Out opens April 4,
841
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:27,645
and tickets are on sale
right now.
842
00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:29,180
Uh, yeah,
I'll-I'll think about this,
843
00:32:29,347 --> 00:32:31,682
and we'll be right back
after this.
844
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,918
I'm gonna say no,
but I-I'll think about it.
845
00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:35,353
Sounds like a yes.
846
00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:38,289
Well, that's our show
for tonight. But before we go,
847
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:40,825
families in Ukraine
are fleeing violence
848
00:32:40,925 --> 00:32:43,127
and urgently need emergency aid.
849
00:32:43,227 --> 00:32:44,729
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850
00:32:44,829 --> 00:32:46,464
aims to reach
four million people,
851
00:32:46,564 --> 00:32:48,499
prioritizing women and girls,
852
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,134
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853
00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:51,269
So, if you can,
854
00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:53,771
please, help by donating
at the link below
855
00:32:53,871 --> 00:32:56,307
to rush urgently needed food,
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856
00:32:56,407 --> 00:32:59,210
hygiene kits
and ongoing support in Ukraine.
857
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,779
Now here it is,
Your Moment of Zen.
858
00:33:01,879 --> 00:33:06,417
(translated):
My life today is wonderful.
859
00:33:06,517 --> 00:33:09,821
I believe that I am needed.
860
00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:13,691
I think that's the most
important sense of life,
861
00:33:13,791 --> 00:33:15,259
that you are needed,
862
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,629
that you not just an emptiness
that breathes
863
00:33:18,729 --> 00:33:21,199
and walks and eats something.