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Probably one
of the biggest surprises,
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they say, apparently,
of the Winter Olympics
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is that Norway
is leading the medals table.
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Everyone was thinking
it's gonna be America
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or China or, like, Canada,
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and then, like,
Norway is crushing it.
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And then I went
to the medals table,
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and I looked at the events,
and I was like, "Guys."
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This is... It's unfair.
Like, forget doping.
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Norway shouldn't be
in the Winter Olympics
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'cause all the shit
they're doing
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is, like, what Norwegians
consider normal life.
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Like, they're not, like,
competing, you know what I mean?
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They'll just be like,
"Oh, what event was this?"
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"Oh, yeah, this is where,
like, the people
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have to go cross-country
on skis."
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Yeah,
that's just Tuesday in Norway.
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I bet at the end of the race,
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they're like,
"Well done. Gold medal."
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It's like, "What?
I was just going to school."
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We kick things off
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with the news
about the British royal family,
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the only people who think chess
is a representative game.
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"Look, there's me.
And there's you.
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And there's
the people who pay us."
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(chuckles)
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Yesterday marked
Queen Elizabeth's
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70th year on the throne,
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making her
the longest-serving monarch
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in British history.
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Which must be nice
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for all of those people
who've been shouting,
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"Long live the queen!"
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Yeah,
'cause now they can be like,
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"Yeah, you see? We did that."
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Now, as part
of the anniversary observance,
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the family has announced
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that if and when
Queen Elizabeth dies
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and her son Charles
becomes king,
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his wife, Camilla,
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will be crowned alongside him
as queen.
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And I don't know
if you remember,
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but when Camilla
first started dating Charles,
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people said
that she could never be queen
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because their relationship
started as an affair.
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So this is huge.
This is a huge, huge deal.
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And I also think
it's the right move,
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because can you imagine
how awkward
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it was gonna be otherwise
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if every time Charles
and Camilla walked in a room
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and the royal announcer
would be like,
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"Presenting the king of England
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and presenting, uh,
his sidepiece?"
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But while I'm sure
the royals would love
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to be focusing
on the future of the family,
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unfortunately,
they've been forced
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to deal with a scandal
from their past.
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You see, for decades,
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Elizabeth's second son,
Prince Andrew,
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he was rolling deep
with Jeffrey Epstein.
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And after years
of fighting allegations
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that he had done anything wrong,
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it looks like he's
finally throwing in the towel.
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NEWSMAN:
Tonight, Prince Andrew
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dramatically averting
a court battle,
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not admitting liability
but not clearing his name.
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Virginia Giuffre claims she was
sexually assaulted by the prince
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when she was 17 years old,
trafficked by Epstein.
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NEWSMAN 2:
The 61-year-old prince
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will pay his accuser,
Virginia Giuffre,
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a reported $10 million
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and make a substantial donation
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to her charity
in support of victims' rights.
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Of course, questions saying,
is it Prince Andrew's money?
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We know that he sold
his Swiss ski chalet,
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reputedly for about 18 million,
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but many people saying the queen
is helping to foot the bill.
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Yeah, that's right.
After years of fighting,
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Prince Andrew has finally
settled with Virginia Giuffre.
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And although
it's not perfect justice,
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I mean, it is something.
You know?
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To be honest, I almost feel
like this guy got off easy,
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because, yeah,
it is $10 million,
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but you're from
the royal family.
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Think about it.
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$10 million is, like, one jewel
from one of their crowns.
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And this has got to suck
for the queen.
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Like, imagine having to use
the money that you earned
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to-- I guess she didn't,
like, earn it,
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but, I mean, imagine, like,
working hard your whole life--
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Well, I mean,
she doesn't really work.
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Um, you-you get what I'm saying.
You get what I'm saying.
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The point is the queen didn't
get into the royal business
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to do stuff like this. Right?
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She got into it
to steal spices from India.
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It's about that life.
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And I can tell you now, this is
probably where she misses
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the days when she could
just chop off people's heads.
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You know?
'Cause, back in the day,
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with this thing happening
with Andrew,
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the queen
would have just been like,
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"Andrew,
I dropped my contact lens.
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Would you bend down
and pick it up?"
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"Where, Mummy?"
(chopping sound)
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"10 million saved."
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Oh, and, by the way,
the next time your mom complains
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about you asking her
for rent money,
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you should just show her
this story and remind her
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it could be way worse.
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But let's move on.
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If you're tired of the same old,
same old dating app scene
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where you swipe right
on the cute guy,
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he swindles you out
of thousands of dollars,
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blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, then good news--
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Tinder is now offering
a Blind Date feature on the app.
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Yeah, because, usually, when
you're scrolling through people,
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you first see their picture,
right?
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And then you decide right away
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whether you're too good-looking
for them
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or they're too good-looking
for you.
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But now Tinder is
just gonna ask you questions.
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And then what they're gonna do
is they're gonna match you
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with someone
based on your responses.
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Then you have a chat with them.
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if you both like each other,
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Tinder will show you
their pictures.
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Which is great,
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because if they stop talking
to you at that point,
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then you know immediately
that you're ugly.
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And, you know,
it's so funny how tech companies
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came out like,
"They're the future.
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They're gonna show us
new things."
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But then, as time goes on,
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they seem to invent stuff
that already exists.
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Like blind dates--
"it's the future of dating."
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No. People in the Middle Ages
were like,
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"All our dates are blind."
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And, I'm sorry, but you can't
really recreate blind dates
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unless you also recreate the
part where your mutual friend
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tries to talk
the other person up
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whilst also avoiding
their faults.
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That's a key part
of blind dates.
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"Yeah, he's, like,
super good at cooking
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and he loves to read."
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"Interesting.
So, does he have a job?"
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"As I said, he loves to read."
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"Huh?"
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I also have to mention
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that this blind dating scheme
that Tinder's running,
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this is discriminatory towards
hot, dumb, boring people.
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You realize you're taking away
their greatest asset.
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People with good personalities--
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they're gonna do fine
in this situation.
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They can meet people in person,
they can charm them.
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All some people have
is a six-pack.
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They don't even know
that they have a six-pack
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because
they can't count that high.
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All right, but let's move on
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to a story coming
from my home country--
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South Africa.
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Yeah, it's not the most
creatively-named country,
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but you always know
where to find us.
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It has been almost ten years
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since the passing
of South Africa's first
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democratically-elected
president, Nelson Mandela.
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And for those of you
who don't know,
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Nelson Mandela was basically
the Martin Luther King
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of our Harriet Tubmans.
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And everywhere you go
in South Africa,
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there are reminders
of how great he is.
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Like, there are statues, there
are bridges named after him.
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There's whole neighborhoods
that bear his name.
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But now, there's a new,
fancier way
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for people who want
to celebrate his legacy.
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The former home of Nelson
Mandela is now a luxury hotel.
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It's called "Sanctuary Mandela,"
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and it was Mandela's
first home in Johannesburg
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after being released
from 27 years in prison.
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South Africa's first
Black president lived there
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for six years.
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It now can host 18 guests,
and 18 guests rather,
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and is adorned
with Mandela memorabilia.
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Even Madiba's former cook
is on staff there
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helping to prepare meals.
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Rooms range from $250
to as much as $1,000 a night.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Nelson Mandela's old house has
been turned into a luxury hotel.
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And I mean,
I guess this is just the fate
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of every historic building
now, right?
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'Cause if you think about it,
half of the old buildings
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around the world
are now either a bank,
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an Apple Store, or a CVS.
That's it.
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I wouldn't be shocked
if in, like, a 100 years,
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the White House is going
to be turned into
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Jeff Bezos' dog's weekend place.
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Now, some people think
that it doesn't make sense
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for the home of the man
who fought inequality
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to be turned
into a luxury hotel.
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But it does.
It actually does.
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And it really does
if you remember one
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of Mandela's most famous quotes
when he said,
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"Do not judge me
by the color of my skin,
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"but rather judge me
by the thread count
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"of these Egyptian
cotton sheets.
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"Balling out of control.
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Hey. Hey. Hey."
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-It was a powerful speech.
we cried that day. -(laughter)
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We cried that day.
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Also, you know,
when you're staying
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at the Nelson Mandela Hotel,
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good luck fighting
the minibar charges
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that you think are unfair.
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Just gonna be
at the front desk like,
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"Hi. Excuse me. I think
I was unfairly charged
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for a bag of pistachios."
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Madame, let me tell you
about unfair charges.
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So, yeah. look, this is gonna
come with its pros and its cons.
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People are going to be for it
and against it.
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And I guess it will be good
for the people who work there
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and maybe some
of the community.
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But you got to admit, man,
at the same time,
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it does feel a little
disrespectful for everything
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that Nelson Mandela
went through, you know?
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Just gonna pay some money,
and you can sleep in his house?
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You know what he had to do
to get to that house?
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You know what they should do?
They should-they should say
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for every night that
you stay in the hotel,
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you should also
have to spend the night
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in an apartheid prison.
Yeah.
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Now you're getting
the full experience.
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You know, I actually hope
that they do this
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with African dictator homes,
too. 'Cause, like, yeah,
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Mandela had a nice house,
but forget him, man.
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African dictators--
those dudes lived lavish.
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They should make that
an experience. Can you imagine
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soaking in Idi Amin's Jacuzzi?
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Chilling on his giant couch?
(whoops)
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Dressing up in the skin of his
enemies? Talk about a honeymoon.
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You like this, baby?
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All right, finally,
let's move on to some news
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from the world of religion.
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Since we were young, many of us
have been taught the same story.
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Right?
Be good, pray every day,
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and you'll get into heaven.
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What your grandmother
probably didn't mention
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is that a paperwork issue
could send you to hell.
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A Catholic priest
in Arizona has resigned
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because of a mistake the
church says he's been making
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for more than 20 years.
During thousands of baptisms
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he used the phrase "we baptize"
instead of "I baptize."
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The Vatican says that
one word change makes
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all the baptisms
he performed invalid.
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The priest has apologized
and, again, resigned.
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Wait, wait, I'm sorry, what?
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All the baptisms are invalid
because of one w--
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no, one word?
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This is, like, the worst thing
I Catholic priest has ever done.
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But for real, people, I cannot
believe that the Vatican
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is gonna say
all of these baptisms--
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all of them, like,
what, 2,000 are invalid--
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just because
the priest said "we"
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instead of "I."
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Like, don't get me wrong,
I'm glad to hear that
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the Catholic Church cares
about people's pronouns,
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but this seems like
a minor mistake to me.
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You know, like,
I would understand
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if the priest accidentally
cleansed their souls
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in White Claw.
That, I would get.
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But this doesn't
seem like a huge deal.
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And what's gonna happen
to all the people
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who weren't actually baptized?
What happens to them now, huh?
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Are they gonna go to hell
for someone else's mistake?
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That's so unfair.
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Everyone else
who gets to go to hell
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goes there because
they got to have some fun first.
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You know? Now they're all gonna
be down in the fire pits like,
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"Well, I'm being burned forever
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"but it was worth it
for the orgies! (laughs)
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What are you in for, man?"
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"My priest made a typo."
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"Oh sure, whatever. (laughs)
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"You probably killed
some puppies or something,
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you sick (bleep). Yo, let's
torture this guy extra hard."
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So, now-- Wait,
sor-sorry, sorry, hold on.
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I'm hearing
from my producers that...
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Well, that-that can't be right.
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We have an interview
with God Himself?
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Is that even possible? How...
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Uh, all right,
can we-can we patch him in?
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-♪ ♪ -Yeah, yeah,
turn over that cable.
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-Oh, my Lord.
-Hey.
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Hey, Trevor, it's me, God.
God indeed, baby. How you been?
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Well, this is amazing.
God, thank you so much
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-for joining me on the show.
-Hey, baby, happy to be here.
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Look, we got to
make this quick, though.
307
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I'm working
on creating a new animal.
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It's like a horse
but it's got flippers
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and it's got fangs.
I gave it one wing.
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Ooh, boy,
it's gonna mess y'all up.
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Oh, God,
I have so many questions,
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First-first of all, I, I didn't
know that this is how you look.
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Oh, no, thi-this-this is
just how I look to you.
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I don't look like this
when I'm talking to white folks.
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I want to surprise 'em
when they get here.
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(laughs)
Oh, man, God, I-I just...
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Oh, oh, I also have
another question,
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and this is
a little embarrassing, but...
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No, I'm not helping you
with Wordle.
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How did you know that
that was what I was gonna ask?
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Tired, tired of you asking
about Wordle.
322
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You tweet about Wordle
all the time.
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You need to get a life, man.
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Yeah, but The New York Times
made the words...
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Anyway, God, let's talk
about the issue at hand.
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What's your position
on this priest in Arizona
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who's been messing up baptisms?
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I'm gonna be honest, I-I got
no idea what you talking about.
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Uh, there's a priest in Arizona
who said the wrong word,
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and now the Vatican is all upset
and they're saying
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that the people might be going
to hell now.
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You-you haven't heard
about this?
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No, man.
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I don't pay half
as much attention to Earth
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as y'all think I do.
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I'm having too much fun.
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Look at me, I'm in heaven.
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We got Prince,
Whitney Houston, George Michael.
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Every day up here is
a Super Bowl halftime show.
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Wait, hold-- so, hold...
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-Worried about Earth. -You're
saying that you're not really
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focused on every single thing
that's going on down here?
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No, I ain't worried
about everything going on...
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Do you realize how many worlds
I have created?
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I can't keep track
of every single one.
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You think Shonda Rhimes know
what's going on
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in every single one
of her TV shows?
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She got the firefighter show,
she got the doctor show,
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she got the one where everybody
having sex in the 1700s.
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It's impossible
to keep track of, impossible.
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I-I mean, that makes sense,
but are you saying
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that even if this priest
messed up the baptisms,
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you, you would still accept
these people into heaven?
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That's right.
355
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People, don't sweat
the small stuff.
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Look, this is all you got to do,
Trevor.
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All you got to do to get
into heaven is be a good person.
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I just want people up here
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who aren't going to ruin
the party, all right?
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Now, if you'll excuse me,
it's trivia night
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00:13:58,949 --> 00:14:01,451
and Alex Trebek is on my team.
362
00:14:01,551 --> 00:14:04,287
Trebek, baby, let's
get these Bitcoins.
363
00:14:04,387 --> 00:14:05,555
Hell, yeah.
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00:14:05,655 --> 00:14:07,857
Wow, man.
365
00:14:07,958 --> 00:14:09,526
Heaven sounds like a lot of fun.
I can't wait to see it one day.
366
00:14:09,626 --> 00:14:13,296
-This is... -Oh, don't worry.
You gonna see it real soon.
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00:14:14,164 --> 00:14:15,665
Wait, what? Wh-What does...
368
00:14:15,765 --> 00:14:18,101
H-How soon? What does that...
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00:14:18,201 --> 00:14:19,269
What does that...
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00:14:19,369 --> 00:14:20,437
You know what?
Let's take a quick break
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So I can figure
out what that meant.
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And after the break, I'm gonna
be talking to Willie O'Ree,
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the first Black
hockey player ever.
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You don't want to miss it.
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When he said "soon," do you
think that was a threat
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or do you think it was
an invitation?
377
00:14:31,748 --> 00:14:34,584
How you turn off
this webcam?
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00:14:34,684 --> 00:14:36,319
-Hit the button? -Oh, God, you
have to press the...
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Lord, it didn't... (stammers) If
you... it's on the t-top right.
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The top right of the-- if it's--
Is it a touchscreen?
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00:14:41,958 --> 00:14:44,294
-You've got to hit the top
right. -Hang on.
382
00:14:44,394 --> 00:14:46,296
-No, it's, uh...
-Leave meeting.
383
00:14:46,396 --> 00:14:48,298
No, you're still here.
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00:14:48,398 --> 00:14:49,799
-Lord, y-you haven't left.
-Leave meeting.
385
00:14:52,335 --> 00:14:54,237
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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My first guest tonight
is a hockey legend
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by the name of Willie O'Ree.
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He integrated
the sport of hockey
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by becoming
the first Black player
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to compete in the NHL in 1958,
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for which he will be awarded
the Congressional Gold Medal.
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MAN:
Making sports history in hockey
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as Jackie Robinson did
in baseball,
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Willie O'Ree
of the Boston Bruins,
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a native of Fredericton,
New Brunswick,
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is the first Negro to play
in the National Hockey League.
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WOMAN:
In his first time out,
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his team won
against the Montreal Canadiens.
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In the Bruins dressing room
after the game,
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Gord Sinclair Jr. of CFCF
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pressed through the crowd
for this interview.
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SINCLAIR: It must be quite
the exciting thing, isn't it,
403
00:15:31,173 --> 00:15:33,743
to get into an NHL game
for the Boston Bruins.
404
00:15:33,843 --> 00:15:36,312
What do you feel about it, uh,
Willie? Anything unusual?
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00:15:36,412 --> 00:15:38,180
O'REE: No, it was
the greatest thrill of my life,
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00:15:38,281 --> 00:15:40,483
I believe.
I'll always remember this day.
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00:15:40,583 --> 00:15:42,518
"I'll always remember this day."
Mr. Willie O'Ree,
408
00:15:42,618 --> 00:15:44,887
-welcome to The Daily Show.
-Thank you very much.
409
00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:46,389
It certainly is a pleasure
to be here.
410
00:15:46,489 --> 00:15:50,226
Oh, the pleasure's all mine.
I mean, I'm talking to a man
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who's a legend
on so many counts.
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I mean, you-you're a legend
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because of what you did
for the sport of hockey.
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00:15:56,165 --> 00:15:57,700
Uh, you're a legend
because you were
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the first Black player
in the NHL.
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And, for me, you are a legend
because you are a Black person
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who chose to play on the ice.
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00:16:05,441 --> 00:16:08,110
I-I don't meet many Black people
who willingly go to the cold,
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00:16:08,211 --> 00:16:11,013
Mr. O'Ree, so, uh, you're a...
you're a legend personally
420
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for me as an African.
Welcome to the show.
421
00:16:13,182 --> 00:16:15,218
-It's good to have you.
-Thank you, sir.
422
00:16:15,318 --> 00:16:17,520
Um, let's talk a little bit
about your journey.
423
00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:18,888
You know, it-it...
424
00:16:18,988 --> 00:16:21,924
it wasn't anything
that anybody had done before.
425
00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:23,726
You know? You talk about this
in your life
426
00:16:23,826 --> 00:16:25,494
and how you had a dream.
427
00:16:25,595 --> 00:16:27,263
You said,
"I want to play in the NHL.
428
00:16:27,363 --> 00:16:28,764
I want to be
a professional hockey player."
429
00:16:28,864 --> 00:16:31,534
Nobody had done it. Nobody
thought anybody could do it,
430
00:16:31,634 --> 00:16:33,102
and yet you set your mind to it.
431
00:16:33,202 --> 00:16:36,072
I'd love to know
how you-you had this idea
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of doing something
that had never been done before
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00:16:38,641 --> 00:16:40,243
with the clarity that you had.
434
00:16:40,343 --> 00:16:42,245
Well,
when I was 14 years of age,
435
00:16:42,345 --> 00:16:44,614
I decided I wanted to become
a professional hockey player
436
00:16:44,714 --> 00:16:45,982
and then hopefully one day
in the, uh...
437
00:16:46,082 --> 00:16:47,950
play in the
National Hockey League.
438
00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:50,286
And I have to give credit
to my older brother
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who was not only my brother and
my friend but he was my mentor
440
00:16:53,556 --> 00:16:55,458
and he taught me a lot of things
that I would need to know.
441
00:16:55,558 --> 00:16:57,793
So I started playing
organized hockey.
442
00:16:57,894 --> 00:17:00,663
Uh, and at 14,
I left my hometown
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00:17:00,763 --> 00:17:03,132
to go up to, uh, Quebec, Canada,
444
00:17:03,232 --> 00:17:07,436
to play junior-junior hockey
with the, um, Quebec Frontenacs.
445
00:17:07,537 --> 00:17:09,839
Uh, played there
that, uh, one year,
446
00:17:09,939 --> 00:17:11,707
and then I went and played, uh,
447
00:17:11,807 --> 00:17:13,576
in Kitchener, Ontario,
the second year.
448
00:17:13,676 --> 00:17:16,579
And that's when I had, uh,
an unfortunate accident.
449
00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:18,247
You know, none of the players
wore any helmets,
450
00:17:18,347 --> 00:17:20,216
no face shields, no cages.
451
00:17:20,316 --> 00:17:23,152
And, um, I was struck
in the right eye with a puck
452
00:17:23,252 --> 00:17:25,555
and lost 97% vision
in my right eye.
453
00:17:25,655 --> 00:17:27,924
-Wow. -And the doc--
the doctor told me
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I'd never play hockey again.
455
00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:31,327
But, uh, I kept it a secret
456
00:17:31,460 --> 00:17:34,196
and, um, turn-turned pro in 1956
457
00:17:34,297 --> 00:17:36,766
and was able to play 21 years
with one eye.
458
00:17:36,866 --> 00:17:38,467
W-Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait. Let's--
459
00:17:38,534 --> 00:17:39,969
Okay, now we--
now we need to add
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00:17:40,069 --> 00:17:42,038
an extra layer of legend
to the story.
461
00:17:42,138 --> 00:17:43,372
You lost some of your vision,
462
00:17:43,472 --> 00:17:45,608
and the doctor said
that you were legally blind.
463
00:17:45,708 --> 00:17:47,310
You keep this a secret,
464
00:17:47,476 --> 00:17:48,678
and then you go on to play--
465
00:17:48,778 --> 00:17:50,813
I-I don't-- I don't even
understand how that's possible.
466
00:17:50,913 --> 00:17:52,248
I can't follow the puck.
467
00:17:52,415 --> 00:17:53,416
I've been to hockey games.
468
00:17:53,516 --> 00:17:54,617
I love watching hockey games,
469
00:17:54,717 --> 00:17:56,419
but it's like
I can't follow the puck.
470
00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:58,788
But you're telling me
you were a professional player
471
00:17:58,888 --> 00:18:00,489
who was legally blind.
472
00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:02,792
I don't understand
how you did this.
473
00:18:02,892 --> 00:18:04,860
Well, you know, um...
(clears throat)
474
00:18:04,961 --> 00:18:07,697
I-- When I went to the hospital
and, um,
475
00:18:07,797 --> 00:18:09,765
I-I was in my recovery room
and the doctor said,
476
00:18:09,865 --> 00:18:11,567
"Mr. O'Ree," he says,
"you're gonna be blind
477
00:18:11,667 --> 00:18:12,902
and you'll never play hockey
again,"
478
00:18:13,002 --> 00:18:15,104
well, the two goals
that I had set for myself,
479
00:18:15,204 --> 00:18:16,806
well, seemingly, were gone.
480
00:18:16,906 --> 00:18:19,308
But I got out of the hospital
and, um,
481
00:18:19,442 --> 00:18:21,777
within the next five, uh, weeks,
I'm back on the ice,
482
00:18:21,878 --> 00:18:23,446
practicing and playing.
483
00:18:23,479 --> 00:18:26,315
Now, I'm a left-hand shot
and playing left wing.
484
00:18:26,449 --> 00:18:28,484
But, to compensate,
I-I had to turn my head
485
00:18:28,584 --> 00:18:30,253
all the way around to the right
to pick the puck
486
00:18:30,353 --> 00:18:32,722
and pick the play up
and look over my right shoulder.
487
00:18:32,822 --> 00:18:34,557
-Wow.
-And I...
488
00:18:34,657 --> 00:18:36,626
And, consequently,
I was overskating the puck
489
00:18:36,726 --> 00:18:37,960
and missing the net,
and I just said,
490
00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:39,829
"Willie,
forget about what you can't see
491
00:18:39,929 --> 00:18:42,164
and concentrate
on what you can see."
492
00:18:42,265 --> 00:18:45,535
So, the season ends and, uh,
I go back to my hometown
493
00:18:45,635 --> 00:18:47,303
-and I kept my fingers
crossed... -Mm-hmm.
494
00:18:47,470 --> 00:18:50,072
...that I'd be contacted
by a professional team.
495
00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:53,643
And I waited and waited,
and finally, I got a call
496
00:18:53,743 --> 00:18:56,646
from Punch Imlach who was
the coach and general manager
497
00:18:56,746 --> 00:18:58,047
of the Quebec Aces,
498
00:18:58,147 --> 00:19:00,216
the Quebec professional team
up in Quebec City.
499
00:19:00,316 --> 00:19:03,119
So, to make a long story short,
I go to training camp,
500
00:19:03,219 --> 00:19:05,454
I make the team, I don't
tell them that I am blind.
501
00:19:05,555 --> 00:19:07,490
I don't have an eye exam
so I says,
502
00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:09,926
"Well, if I don't take
an eye exam, just-just play."
503
00:19:10,026 --> 00:19:12,061
And we won the championship
that year,
504
00:19:12,161 --> 00:19:14,130
so that's what gave me the
extra confidence that I needed.
505
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:16,866
-And I said... I said...
-(laughing)
506
00:19:16,966 --> 00:19:18,234
Oh, man, I mean, that's...
507
00:19:18,334 --> 00:19:20,970
Yeah, if anything qualifies
somebody to be a legend,
508
00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:23,105
I think that story makes it.
509
00:19:23,206 --> 00:19:25,107
Um, let's talk
about the sport itself.
510
00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:28,611
You know, you talked
about back then what it was like
511
00:19:28,711 --> 00:19:32,315
being in the league as the first
and only Black player.
512
00:19:32,448 --> 00:19:33,883
You had teammates
who supported you,
513
00:19:33,983 --> 00:19:36,152
you had fans who cheered
for you, but there was also
514
00:19:36,252 --> 00:19:39,589
the fans who really could only
think of the color of your skin
515
00:19:39,689 --> 00:19:41,090
as the reason
that they didn't like you.
516
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:43,125
You know, they were shouting
slurs at you on the ice,
517
00:19:43,226 --> 00:19:45,861
or they were shouting slurs
at you from the stands.
518
00:19:45,962 --> 00:19:47,697
I'd love to know
how you blocked out that noise.
519
00:19:47,797 --> 00:19:49,365
You know, I mean,
that truly affects you
520
00:19:49,465 --> 00:19:52,134
as a human being, but
you found a way to persevere.
521
00:19:52,235 --> 00:19:55,071
Was that something you had just
grown up with in your family,
522
00:19:55,171 --> 00:19:56,639
or did you put your head down,
and...?
523
00:19:56,739 --> 00:19:58,074
Like, how did you do that?
524
00:19:58,174 --> 00:20:00,576
Well, I just put my head down.
I was called the "N" word
525
00:20:00,676 --> 00:20:04,413
every time I stepped on the ice
by players on the opposition,
526
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,781
by fans in the stands.
527
00:20:05,882 --> 00:20:07,783
If I had a penalty,
and I went in the penalty box,
528
00:20:07,884 --> 00:20:09,285
I could hear them saying
the "N" word,
529
00:20:09,418 --> 00:20:10,720
but I just blocked if out,
530
00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:13,256
thanks to my older brother,
again.
531
00:20:13,422 --> 00:20:15,458
And he told me, "willie,
if they can't accept you
532
00:20:15,558 --> 00:20:17,226
"for the individual
that you are,
533
00:20:17,326 --> 00:20:19,128
"because you have the skills
and ability
534
00:20:19,228 --> 00:20:20,963
to play in the league
at this particular time,"
535
00:20:21,063 --> 00:20:22,465
he said, "forget about
everything else."
536
00:20:22,565 --> 00:20:25,334
He said, "Just go out,
stay focused on your goal
537
00:20:25,434 --> 00:20:27,904
and work hard." And basically,
that's what I did.
538
00:20:28,004 --> 00:20:32,174
But I mean, I... It was really
rough at the beginning, Trevor.
539
00:20:32,275 --> 00:20:36,445
It really was, but finally,
I gained the respect
540
00:20:36,479 --> 00:20:39,448
of the players and the oppos...
and the fans.
541
00:20:39,549 --> 00:20:41,584
Man, I can...
I honestly can't even imagine
542
00:20:41,684 --> 00:20:44,153
how hard it must have been,
you know, being in that world.
543
00:20:44,253 --> 00:20:47,356
Um, there are over a hundred
Black players, you know,
544
00:20:47,456 --> 00:20:49,492
who have now played in the NHL.
545
00:20:49,592 --> 00:20:51,661
Many of them have either
talked about your story
546
00:20:51,761 --> 00:20:52,795
or they've talked about
your journey
547
00:20:52,895 --> 00:20:54,263
in some way inspiring them,
548
00:20:54,397 --> 00:20:56,699
but they've also talked about
how difficult it can be
549
00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,101
being the only Black player
on a team, you know,
550
00:20:59,202 --> 00:21:02,605
the only Black player
who's representing a franchise.
551
00:21:02,705 --> 00:21:05,741
You know, were there any tips
that you gave
552
00:21:05,841 --> 00:21:07,410
to any of these players
or were there any tips
553
00:21:07,443 --> 00:21:09,445
that you learned
that would help you
554
00:21:09,545 --> 00:21:11,414
not-- almost carry
the entire burden
555
00:21:11,514 --> 00:21:14,150
of being the only
Black player on a team?
556
00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:15,651
You know, being able
to fail for Willie
557
00:21:15,751 --> 00:21:17,286
or being able
to succeed for Willie
558
00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:19,789
and not always worrying
that it, you know, it represents
559
00:21:19,889 --> 00:21:23,759
all of Blackness at the same
time, which it did and didn't.
560
00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:26,062
Well, I met a lot of the Black
players and players of color
561
00:21:26,162 --> 00:21:29,131
that are playing in the league
at the present time,
562
00:21:29,232 --> 00:21:32,301
and, you know, some of them
that I have met, they said,
563
00:21:32,435 --> 00:21:34,604
"Willie, I just can't imagine
what you had to go through
564
00:21:34,704 --> 00:21:37,974
to make it possible for players
like me to play in the league."
565
00:21:38,074 --> 00:21:40,009
He says, "I just--
I have the highest respect
566
00:21:40,109 --> 00:21:42,044
and the highest
admiration for you."
567
00:21:42,144 --> 00:21:43,880
He said, "What you-what you had
to do, you must have
568
00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:45,982
had to turn your cheek
a thousand times."
569
00:21:46,082 --> 00:21:48,651
And I said, "I just stayed...
I stayed focused
570
00:21:48,751 --> 00:21:51,387
"on what I wanted to do.
I-I worked hard.
571
00:21:51,454 --> 00:21:54,290
"And I told myself
'I'm good enough to play
572
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:55,558
"'in the league and, uh,
573
00:21:55,658 --> 00:21:57,493
'"just-just work hard
574
00:21:57,593 --> 00:22:00,630
and, uh, stay confident.'"
575
00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:03,132
Let's talk a little bit about
the future. You know, you...
576
00:22:03,232 --> 00:22:05,001
We're celebrating you
and you've been celebrated
577
00:22:05,101 --> 00:22:06,869
for such a long time
as being not just part of
578
00:22:06,969 --> 00:22:09,505
Black history but part of,
also, the NHL's history.
579
00:22:09,605 --> 00:22:12,508
You have now been an ambassador
for the National Hockey League,
580
00:22:12,608 --> 00:22:14,410
getting Black players into it,
players of color,
581
00:22:14,510 --> 00:22:15,912
you know, kids who would have
never thought that this could
582
00:22:16,012 --> 00:22:18,147
be their sport or maybe
they wanted to get into it
583
00:22:18,247 --> 00:22:20,816
but couldn't-- it's an expensive
sport to get into, you know?
584
00:22:20,917 --> 00:22:23,185
Your skates and-and
all the equipment that you need
585
00:22:23,286 --> 00:22:26,255
to-to be part of-- it sometimes
becomes a bigger barrier
586
00:22:26,422 --> 00:22:28,024
than even
the color of your skin.
587
00:22:28,124 --> 00:22:30,026
When you're-when you're meeting
with new kids and you-you're
588
00:22:30,126 --> 00:22:32,128
talking to these children
who want to join in,
589
00:22:32,228 --> 00:22:34,297
how do you inspire them
to get into a sport
590
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:37,233
that sometimes might
be just out of their reach?
591
00:22:37,333 --> 00:22:40,770
Well, we have, uh,
organized programs
592
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:42,438
all over North America.
593
00:22:42,538 --> 00:22:44,140
And when I first started, um,
594
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,108
there were
ap-approximately five.
595
00:22:46,209 --> 00:22:48,244
We have about 36 now.
596
00:22:48,344 --> 00:22:49,745
And-and before the pandemic
597
00:22:49,845 --> 00:22:51,214
I was traveling around
to these cities
598
00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:54,550
and, uh, uh, talking
to the, uh,
599
00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:55,551
elementary schools,
middle schools,
600
00:22:55,651 --> 00:22:57,186
junior high, high schools,
601
00:22:57,286 --> 00:23:01,290
um, Boys & Girls Clubs,
YM/YWCAs,
602
00:23:01,390 --> 00:23:03,826
juvenile detention facilities
to let them know
603
00:23:03,926 --> 00:23:06,462
that there is a sport that
they can play if they want to,
604
00:23:06,562 --> 00:23:08,998
and, uh, all you have to do
is come to the rink
605
00:23:09,098 --> 00:23:11,601
and, uh, we-we'll learn you
how to skate.
606
00:23:11,701 --> 00:23:13,603
And, uh, if you, if you follow,
607
00:23:13,703 --> 00:23:16,072
we'll get you on an organized,
an organized team
608
00:23:16,172 --> 00:23:18,140
where you're able to,
able to play.
609
00:23:18,241 --> 00:23:20,543
I mean, uh,
hockey's a fun sport...
610
00:23:20,643 --> 00:23:22,812
but I tell these kids, if you're
not having fun, don't play it.
611
00:23:22,912 --> 00:23:24,046
Uh, find another sport.
612
00:23:24,146 --> 00:23:25,414
-(Noah laughs)
-But, uh,
613
00:23:25,481 --> 00:23:27,283
I... I can honestly say
614
00:23:27,416 --> 00:23:30,620
that, uh, the clinics that
I've conducted over the years,
615
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,489
once I get these boys and girls
on the ice,
616
00:23:33,589 --> 00:23:35,558
I've not had one boy or girl
come up and say,
617
00:23:35,658 --> 00:23:37,426
"Um, nah, Mr. O'Ree,
I don't like this.
618
00:23:37,493 --> 00:23:39,228
-I'm not coming back."
-Wow.
619
00:23:39,328 --> 00:23:41,230
So it's a nice feeling
to reach out
620
00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:43,299
and even--
and just touch one individual
621
00:23:43,432 --> 00:23:45,501
and make a difference
in their life.
622
00:23:45,601 --> 00:23:47,570
Well, that's why you are
who you are.
623
00:23:47,670 --> 00:23:49,438
That's why you are receiving
not just the medal
624
00:23:49,539 --> 00:23:51,374
but all the praise,
and we celebrate you.
625
00:23:51,407 --> 00:23:53,242
Thank you so much, uh,
Mr. Willie O'Ree.
626
00:23:53,376 --> 00:23:54,911
Thank you so much
for joining us on the show,
627
00:23:55,011 --> 00:23:56,646
thank you for what you've done,
and, uh, thank you
628
00:23:56,746 --> 00:23:58,881
for the joy that you've brought
to the sport and to the world.
629
00:23:58,981 --> 00:24:00,216
-We appreciate you.
-Thank you.
630
00:24:00,383 --> 00:24:01,617
All right, don't go away,
because after the break
631
00:24:01,717 --> 00:24:03,519
I'm gonna be chatting
to Jessica Kingdon,
632
00:24:03,619 --> 00:24:06,489
who's made a documentary
that takes us into China
633
00:24:06,589 --> 00:24:08,824
and shows us what some
of their challenges are
634
00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:10,092
that we may not know about.
635
00:24:10,192 --> 00:24:12,194
You don't want to miss it.
636
00:24:13,913 --> 00:24:15,548
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
637
00:24:15,648 --> 00:24:17,483
My guest tonight
is filmmaker Jessica Kingdon.
638
00:24:17,583 --> 00:24:19,385
She's here to talk
about Ascension,
639
00:24:19,485 --> 00:24:21,153
her Oscar-nominated documentary
640
00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:24,390
that examines
the contemporary Chinese dream.
641
00:24:24,490 --> 00:24:26,425
Jessica Kingdon,
welcome to The Daily Show.
642
00:24:26,525 --> 00:24:27,726
Thank you so much for having me.
643
00:24:27,827 --> 00:24:29,462
It's a complete honor
to be here.
644
00:24:29,562 --> 00:24:31,030
Well, let's talk about the film.
645
00:24:31,130 --> 00:24:33,432
It's very seldom
that you see China,
646
00:24:33,532 --> 00:24:35,468
and it's very seldom
that you see China
647
00:24:35,568 --> 00:24:37,236
not from China's perspective
648
00:24:37,336 --> 00:24:38,671
and not from, like,
the West's perspective
649
00:24:38,771 --> 00:24:41,173
but just in China.
So let's start with that.
650
00:24:41,273 --> 00:24:44,910
How on earth do you get
to make a documentary in China
651
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:47,379
in all the places that you got
to make the documentary?
652
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,915
Because the film itself
is not politically...
653
00:24:50,015 --> 00:24:51,650
overtly political
654
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:55,621
and we're not filming
in any, um, "sensitive areas."
655
00:24:55,721 --> 00:24:58,724
-Right. -So we were able
to be extremely straightforward
656
00:24:58,824 --> 00:25:00,126
about what we were doing,
657
00:25:00,226 --> 00:25:03,129
and a lot of it was just
simply asking these locations.
658
00:25:03,229 --> 00:25:06,899
"Hey, we're an independent
American documentary film crew
659
00:25:06,999 --> 00:25:09,535
"coming to make a film
about China's economic rise.
660
00:25:09,635 --> 00:25:11,403
"Can we come
and film in your factory?
661
00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:13,372
Can we come
and film in your manner school?"
662
00:25:13,472 --> 00:25:14,807
Et cetera. Surprisingly,
663
00:25:14,907 --> 00:25:16,742
the thing
that people were worried about
664
00:25:16,842 --> 00:25:18,277
is not something I anticipated.
665
00:25:18,377 --> 00:25:21,514
A lot of factory managers,
um, were worried
666
00:25:21,614 --> 00:25:22,681
that we were gonna scam them
667
00:25:22,782 --> 00:25:24,016
and try to get money
out of them.
668
00:25:24,116 --> 00:25:26,018
-In what way? -Like,
to hit them up with a bill
669
00:25:26,118 --> 00:25:29,021
-for appearing in our movie
later on. -(laughing)
670
00:25:29,088 --> 00:25:31,190
-(chuckles) Yeah, it was amaz...
-Wait, are you being serious?
671
00:25:31,290 --> 00:25:32,658
I'm dead serious.
672
00:25:32,758 --> 00:25:35,394
Another suspicion that happened
was in the textile man...
673
00:25:35,494 --> 00:25:37,496
one of the textile
manufacturing companies.
674
00:25:37,596 --> 00:25:39,632
He thought
that we were there trying...
675
00:25:39,732 --> 00:25:43,602
from a corporation trying to,
um, take the technology secrets.
676
00:25:43,702 --> 00:25:45,204
You were trying
to steal their tech
677
00:25:45,304 --> 00:25:46,906
-and then go and make
your own textile... -Yeah.
678
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:50,843
-Exactly. -It-it feels like what
also makes this film different
679
00:25:50,943 --> 00:25:53,579
is you're not telling us
anything.
680
00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:55,247
You're just showing us things.
681
00:25:55,347 --> 00:25:57,516
You know, there's no one
who's narrating.
682
00:25:57,616 --> 00:25:59,785
There's nobody
who's giving you their opinion.
683
00:25:59,885 --> 00:26:01,787
You see, like, you know,
low-income workers,
684
00:26:01,887 --> 00:26:03,456
we see the middling class
that's burgeoning,
685
00:26:03,556 --> 00:26:05,257
and then we see, like,
wealthy Chinese people.
686
00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:08,427
You even take us into,
um, a-a factory
687
00:26:08,527 --> 00:26:11,297
that is making
very advanced, um, sex dolls,
688
00:26:11,397 --> 00:26:12,832
and I-I just want to play
a clip of that.
689
00:26:12,998 --> 00:26:14,900
♪ ♪
690
00:26:44,029 --> 00:26:45,397
So, two things for me.
691
00:26:45,498 --> 00:26:48,067
One, I didn't know sex dolls
had gotten that advanced.
692
00:26:48,167 --> 00:26:49,301
Genuinely.
693
00:26:49,401 --> 00:26:50,669
Like, when I was a kid,
I remember sex dolls
694
00:26:50,769 --> 00:26:52,171
were, like,
these inflatable things.
695
00:26:52,271 --> 00:26:55,708
But, two, I-I don't know
if you did this on purpose,
696
00:26:55,808 --> 00:26:58,711
but that whole scene
in its entirety is-is--
697
00:26:58,811 --> 00:27:01,480
has so many paradoxes, in a way.
698
00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:03,282
When you were making the film,
weren't you ever tempted
699
00:27:03,382 --> 00:27:05,084
to step in and go, like,
"This is what this means"?
700
00:27:05,184 --> 00:27:07,052
Or-or you-- Were you happy
for us, the viewer,
701
00:27:07,153 --> 00:27:09,054
to just watch for ourselves
and decide?
702
00:27:09,088 --> 00:27:10,956
I don't think
I could even say what it means,
703
00:27:11,056 --> 00:27:12,358
to be honest with you.
704
00:27:12,458 --> 00:27:14,827
I mean. I think there are
so many meanings that are...
705
00:27:14,994 --> 00:27:17,530
-can be found within
that one clip even. -Mm-hmm.
706
00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:19,465
But like you said,
something that struck me
707
00:27:19,565 --> 00:27:22,768
about this place was the paradox
of it, where on one hand,
708
00:27:22,868 --> 00:27:25,671
-it seems like one of the most
exploitative factories. -Right.
709
00:27:25,771 --> 00:27:27,740
There are these, um,
replicas of bodies
710
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,742
literally made
for exploitation.
711
00:27:29,842 --> 00:27:33,145
But on the other hand, the women
are handling the dolls,
712
00:27:33,245 --> 00:27:36,515
and also working together, with
a certain type of tenderness
713
00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:38,684
that I found very touching.
714
00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:40,820
And the conversations that
they're having with one another,
715
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,924
too, are, um, almost
accidentally poetic sometimes.
716
00:27:45,024 --> 00:27:47,726
And so, I found that
really beautiful, and, um,
717
00:27:47,827 --> 00:27:50,095
that was a paradox that I was
really trying to lean into,
718
00:27:50,196 --> 00:27:52,164
-and look for and draw out.
-Mm-hmm.
719
00:27:52,264 --> 00:27:54,166
And it wasn't something
that I had to go in
720
00:27:54,266 --> 00:27:55,768
and try to manufacture.
721
00:27:55,868 --> 00:27:57,403
It was just something
that was already there.
722
00:27:57,503 --> 00:27:59,138
And I think a lot of this type
of filmmaking
723
00:27:59,238 --> 00:28:02,041
is about the patience
to sort of sit
724
00:28:02,107 --> 00:28:03,409
-with these sort of moments...
-Oh, yes.
725
00:28:03,509 --> 00:28:05,878
...and allow them to-to emerge,
726
00:28:06,045 --> 00:28:09,482
instead of trying to go and, um,
you know, prove a certain point.
727
00:28:09,582 --> 00:28:12,084
It's wonderful to just see,
728
00:28:12,184 --> 00:28:14,854
just a world happening,
but in a way
729
00:28:14,987 --> 00:28:18,324
where it doesn't feel A--
like you said-- manufactured,
730
00:28:18,424 --> 00:28:22,862
but also,
where something is happening.
731
00:28:22,995 --> 00:28:24,263
You know,
there's a lot of stories
732
00:28:24,363 --> 00:28:26,465
that happen in how people live.
733
00:28:26,565 --> 00:28:28,567
And it was nice to watch that
in a documentary--
734
00:28:28,667 --> 00:28:30,536
just see people living--
but then also,
735
00:28:30,636 --> 00:28:33,205
-there's a story being told by
how the people live. -Right.
736
00:28:33,305 --> 00:28:36,675
It's just the art of observing
and seeing what comes up.
737
00:28:36,775 --> 00:28:38,444
-So... -Yeah. No,
you're a better filmmaker
738
00:28:38,544 --> 00:28:40,246
than I would ever be.
I'd always be tempted
739
00:28:40,346 --> 00:28:42,314
to, like, jump in, just be...
740
00:28:42,414 --> 00:28:43,916
I was very tempted a lot
of the times.
741
00:28:44,016 --> 00:28:45,818
It took a lot of discipline.
742
00:28:45,918 --> 00:28:48,220
-You didn't see the outtakes,
yeah. -Okay, okay, okay, okay.
743
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,457
You know, the China I had known
for so many years was just
744
00:28:51,557 --> 00:28:55,027
all industrial and very-- and in
this documentary we start to see
745
00:28:55,127 --> 00:28:57,563
a new world that is forming
where people are now learning
746
00:28:57,663 --> 00:28:59,932
how to be influencers
and the culture is changing.
747
00:29:00,032 --> 00:29:01,167
Would it be safe to say
that there's almost, now,
748
00:29:01,267 --> 00:29:03,769
"the Chinese dream"
like the American dream,
749
00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:06,038
where people are going,
"We want to ascend in how
750
00:29:06,071 --> 00:29:09,241
-we live, earn, create"?
-There's a lot of similarities
751
00:29:09,341 --> 00:29:11,110
with the Chinese dream
and the American dream.
752
00:29:11,210 --> 00:29:13,712
I mean, the one thing that they
both have in common
753
00:29:13,813 --> 00:29:16,315
is this idea, uh, this quest
for upward mobility
754
00:29:16,415 --> 00:29:18,150
and this belief in the system
755
00:29:18,250 --> 00:29:20,686
that you will be rewarded
materially for your hard work
756
00:29:20,786 --> 00:29:22,588
and, you know, are able
to work yourself up
757
00:29:22,688 --> 00:29:25,057
to a middle-class lifestyle,
which, of course, we know
758
00:29:25,157 --> 00:29:28,828
is not true for everyone.
Um, but within China,
759
00:29:28,994 --> 00:29:32,331
I-I found that it was
just interesting to see
760
00:29:32,431 --> 00:29:36,402
how a lot of it mirrors American
style capitalism as well.
761
00:29:36,502 --> 00:29:39,171
There's so many different
parallels that we wouldn't
762
00:29:39,271 --> 00:29:41,841
necessarily see on the surface,
but if you kind of look closer
763
00:29:42,007 --> 00:29:44,376
you see a lot of it's
echoed with one another.
764
00:29:44,477 --> 00:29:46,378
One of my favorite moments
in the documentary
765
00:29:46,479 --> 00:29:48,481
is where you are in the factory
where there are--
766
00:29:48,581 --> 00:29:49,849
where
they are making
767
00:29:50,015 --> 00:29:52,585
the Donald Trump
"Make America Great Again" hats.
768
00:29:52,685 --> 00:29:54,220
They're, like, they're making
the MAGA hats,
769
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,157
but you saw them making
the "Keep America Great,"
770
00:29:58,257 --> 00:30:00,326
and you thought-you thought
they were messing up.
771
00:30:00,426 --> 00:30:02,361
Like, you thought they had
totally messed up the-the...
772
00:30:02,461 --> 00:30:05,030
-the slogan. -That's right.
This was, um, during
773
00:30:05,131 --> 00:30:06,665
Trump's re-election campaign.
774
00:30:06,765 --> 00:30:08,934
The manager told us,
"Oh, you know,
775
00:30:09,034 --> 00:30:11,137
"all of the, uh,
MAGA hats are gone
776
00:30:11,237 --> 00:30:13,706
because they were bought out
by the Canadians."
777
00:30:13,806 --> 00:30:15,341
-Not something I would have
expected. -(laughs)
778
00:30:15,441 --> 00:30:18,310
But okay, sure, Canada,
uh, MAGA hats.
779
00:30:18,410 --> 00:30:21,480
Um, but instead,
"Hey, we're actually making, um,
780
00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:24,316
Keep America Great,
um, scarves,"
781
00:30:24,416 --> 00:30:27,720
and I thought that that was
kind of maybe a mistake
782
00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:29,121
-or a mistranslation
or something. -Yeah.
783
00:30:29,221 --> 00:30:31,390
But we shot it anyway
and they said,
784
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:34,293
"No, no, this is his,
um, new campaign slogan."
785
00:30:34,393 --> 00:30:36,829
And sure enough,
six months later or whatever,
786
00:30:36,996 --> 00:30:38,464
we were seeing it
everywhere, so...
787
00:30:38,564 --> 00:30:40,699
There's a saying
that businesspeople in Yiwu,
788
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,202
the city where we were shooting,
are ahead of the curve,
789
00:30:43,302 --> 00:30:45,171
ahead of the political trends
790
00:30:45,271 --> 00:30:46,872
because they are kind of
like the base of manufacturing
791
00:30:47,006 --> 00:30:50,509
-where all of these global
issues first come. -Wow.
792
00:30:50,609 --> 00:30:51,744
-Yeah.
-I definitely want to go.
793
00:30:51,844 --> 00:30:53,112
I just want to see
what my future is.
794
00:30:53,212 --> 00:30:54,780
-Yeah. -What shirts
are they making about me?
795
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,282
-Exactly.
-What, "Free Trevor Noah"?
796
00:30:56,382 --> 00:30:57,883
I'm-- wait, I'm gonna be
in prison?
797
00:30:58,017 --> 00:30:59,485
Um... (laughs)
798
00:30:59,585 --> 00:31:01,053
Jessica, congratulations again
on the Oscar nomination,
799
00:31:01,153 --> 00:31:03,422
and, um, thank you
for making, really,
800
00:31:03,522 --> 00:31:05,257
one of the most fascinating
documentaries out.
801
00:31:05,357 --> 00:31:06,258
Oh, thank you so much.
802
00:31:06,358 --> 00:31:08,194
This has been an absolute honor.
803
00:31:08,294 --> 00:31:10,629
All right, people,
Jessica's documentary Ascension
804
00:31:10,729 --> 00:31:12,398
is now streaming
on Paramount Plus.
805
00:31:12,498 --> 00:31:13,466
Trust me, you want to watch it.
806
00:31:13,566 --> 00:31:14,967
It's gonna teach you so much.
807
00:31:15,067 --> 00:31:16,135
We're gonna take a quick break,
808
00:31:16,235 --> 00:31:18,471
but we'll be right back
after this.
809
00:31:21,874 --> 00:31:23,075
Well, that's our show for
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810
00:31:23,175 --> 00:31:25,144
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811
00:31:25,244 --> 00:31:30,082
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812
00:31:30,182 --> 00:31:33,118
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813
00:31:33,218 --> 00:31:34,820
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814
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,056
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815
00:31:38,157 --> 00:31:40,859
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818
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stay safe out there,
819
00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:50,836
get your vaccine,
and remember:
820
00:31:50,936 --> 00:31:53,805
if you're not sure that
your baptism went through,
821
00:31:53,906 --> 00:31:55,674
you better find yourself
a bird bath
822
00:31:55,774 --> 00:31:57,442
and dunk your head,
just to be safe.
823
00:31:57,543 --> 00:31:59,978
Now, here it is,
Your Moment of Zen.
824
00:32:00,078 --> 00:32:04,349
Additionally, if you open
this up to ice fishing, well--
825
00:32:04,449 --> 00:32:06,351
and on the surface it
sounds good,
826
00:32:06,451 --> 00:32:07,820
then what happens next year?
827
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,790
Does someone come back and say,
"I want an ice shanty"?
828
00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:14,693
-On Hudson Spring's park for X
amount of time? -I don't know.
829
00:32:14,793 --> 00:32:20,032
And I you then allow ice...
fishing with shanties,
830
00:32:20,132 --> 00:32:23,035
then that leads to
another problem:
831
00:32:23,135 --> 00:32:24,036
prostitution.
832
00:32:24,136 --> 00:32:26,171
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