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Good news, everybody.
I know a lot of you have been
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stressed by this
and been waiting. Um...
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the Washington Football Team
officially chose a name.
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-(man whoops softly)
-Yes, I know, a lot of people
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were stressed about this,
people couldn't sleep.
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I know some of you in the crew,
you were just like, at night,
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your wife was like,
"What's wrong, honey?"
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You were like,
"They haven't got a name."
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So, yeah, they,
uh, they've gone,
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they, uh, have
changed their name.
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They're now called
the Washington Commanders.
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Which I misheard.
The first time I heard it,
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I thought they said
the Washington Commandos,
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and I thought it
was, like, a team that
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wasn't gonna wear underwear.
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I like, that's a dope
intimidation tactic.
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Yeah, tackle me, see what's up.
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Yeah, but the Commanders
is the new name,
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which is, like,
a powerful name, isn't it?
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That's, like, that's respect.
The Washington Commanders!
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(whoops)
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Put some respect on that name.
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The Commanders
got blown out 47 to 3.
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That's powerful.
I love that.
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It's also funny how,
like, the NFL--
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this whole thing was, like,
a-a scandal of, like,
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racism for the NFL, and then
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this is the end of that scandal
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and I'm sure the guys
in the NFL were like,
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"Well, we did it, boys--
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"no more racism scandals
for us at the NFL.
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"We got it.
No more racism iss...
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What? A lawsuit about what?
Goddamn it!"
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All right, we kick things off
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with some news
coming out of CNN.
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Yes, the channel
you watch at the gym
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while you listen
to your podcast.
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The network has always
been famous worldwide
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for its 24-hour news and people
shouting at each other coverage.
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But over the past few months,
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the spotlight
has been turned on them.
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Especially in the wake
of Andrew Cuomo's
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harassment scandals,
and then Chris Cuomo's secret
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defense of his
brother's scandal.
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Well, today that scandal
took yet another twist.
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We have news now to report
involving our network.
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CNN president Jeff Zucker
has just resigned after
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disclosing a consensual
relationship with a colleague.
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He wrote to staffers
a few minutes ago,
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"As part of the investigation
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tenure at CNN,"-- Cuomo,
of course, fired last month--
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Zucker says... (reading)
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Man, this must have been
a really weird day for CNN.
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On the one hand,
it's bad that your boss
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is resigning under
a cloud of scandal.
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On the other hand,
you got the scoop!
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We begin with breaking news.
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Did you know that
Jeff and Allison were banging?
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I saw them come in the office
together one morning,
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and I totally called it!
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I mean I didn't say anything,
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Uh, what's this? Just in,
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I'm also involved?
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But that's right-- Jeff Zucker,
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the longtime head of CNN,
is stepping down,
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because,
according to his statement,
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he didn't disclose that
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A-And I don't know
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but what I do know is that,
at CNN,
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it seems like there's
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who isn't disclosing enough
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or someone
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You know?
People are gonna be like, "Wow,
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"someone has been in charge
of CNN this whole time?
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"I thought it was
just a bunch of roommates
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that found camera equipment
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But, yes,
Jeff Zucker was running CNN.
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And you may not know this,
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but he's the one
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Right?
He's the one who pushed it
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toward entertainment more
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Let's just get people
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would just make us watch Trump's
empty podium for an hour?
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That was his choice. Yeah.
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is because he liked Trump
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because he knew
that Trump was good for ratings
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because Jeff Zucker is the one
who gave Trump the job
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for The Apprentice.
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And The Apprentice
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went on to become the president!
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And that's not even
the craziest part of the story!
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The craziest thing is
that Jeff Zucker's downfall
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all started with Andrew Cuomo.
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Remember him? Yeah.
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Andrew Cuomo groped women.
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Chris Cuomo, his brother,
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so then CNN looked into Chris
Cuomo-- they investigated him--
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and then they found some shit
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What?
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So Andrew Cuomo was such a creep
that he took down himself,
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his brother Chris
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He's like Ronan Farrow
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who knows how long
Cuomo's fallout is gonna last?
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He groped a bunch of people--
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now everyone is feeling it.
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You know?
He's like a human Chernobyl.
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80 years from now,
Brazilians are gonna be at war
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with Australians, like...
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(speaking Portuguese)
"...Andrew Cuomo?"
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All right, but let's move on
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from someone
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to someone else
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Whoopi Goldberg,
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cohost of The View
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and the only coach to lead
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the five women on The View
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were having a discussion
about Maus.
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You remember? The graphic novel
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the panel was down to four.
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NEWSWOMAN: This morning, more
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ABC News suspending Goldberg
from The View for two weeks
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after she made controversial
comments about Jewish people
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and the Holocaust
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The Holocaust isn't about race.
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-It's not about race. Because
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NEWSWOMAN: Goldberg apologizing
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Yesterday, uh,
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I regret my comments, as I said,
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with Anti-Defamation League
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who later commented
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We shouldn't cancel Whoopi
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I heard Whoopi say that she's
committed to doing better.
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I accept that apology.
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that Whoopi has apologized
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Yep. Whoopi Goldberg
is in a whole lot of trouble.
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And I understand why.
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I understand why people
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because, the way she said it,
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it made it sound like
the Holocaust
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was just some white people
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who were fighting
some other white people.
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You know?
Sort of like Game of Thrones.
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But as the spokesman
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later explained to her,
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Hitler did see Jews
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as a separate species.
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You know?
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Like, when you think
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protecting "the master race,"
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that was the Nazis' whole thing.
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You know, race purity.
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all these tiki torch bitches
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that you see running around now,
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blond hair and blue eyes.
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He got to look like
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but that's not the point.
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You know, so I totally
understand why people were upset
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because the Holocaust
had everything to do with race.
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And I'm glad that Whoopi
apologized because, like,
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I don't think
that she was trying
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to hurt anybody here, you know?
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I think she made a mistake.
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it's a little weird
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that her network suspended her
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for sharing her view
on The View.
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I mean, if she's remorseful,
why send her away?
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Isn't it better to keep her
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as a teaching moment?
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Then you could have
everyone watching also learning.
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Like, "Oh, I actually didn't
know that about the Holocaust."
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Maybe they didn't.
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Rather than sending her away
for two weeks to do what?
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Reflect and what?
Do her own research?
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I mean, that's never
a good idea, you know?
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Yeah, these days,
you tell someone
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to go research
the Holocaust on their own,
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and they'll come back
in two weeks like,
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"Did y'all know that the Jews
have space lasers?"
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You'd be like, "Ah, damn it!
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to our next story.
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Today is Groundhog Day.
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Which leads me to ask,
what the hell is Groundhog Day?
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People pull a rodent
out of the ground
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and then ask the animal
to predict the weather?
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This is so unfair.
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Because if Africans were
doing shit like this,
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and you heard that we pulled
animals out of the ground?
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Like, there are villages
in Africa
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where people wear animal skins,
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and if I tried to explain
that Americans use groundhogs
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to predict the weather,
they'd be like,
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"But why not just use
the satellite data?"
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All right, that's it
for the headlines.
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Let's move to our top story,
which is about Russia,
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the former, and maybe future,
Soviet Union.
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Over the past few months,
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Russia has sent
over 100,000 troops
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to its border with Ukraine,
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which understandably,
has a lot of people freaked out.
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Ukraine has been preparing
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America and the United Nations
have been threatening
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devastating sanctions
on Russia.
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And today, President Biden sent
thousands of troops
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to Poland and Romania
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just in case Russia decides
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to add some more countries
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But the big question is why?
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Why is Russia bringing Europe
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Well, yesterday, we finally
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and leader who ends every
sentence with,
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"or else," Vladimir Putin.
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NEWSWOMAN: Russian president
Vladimir Putin's first comments
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on Ukraine since December
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with the leader of Hungary.
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Putin claimed that the West has
ignored Russia's top demands,
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including blocking Ukraine
from joining NATO.
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NEWSWOMAN 2: In his first public
comments on this crisis
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in weeks, President Vladimir
Putin accused the U.S. of trying
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to contain Russia.
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(speaking Russian)
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"Ukraine is just a tool,"
he said.
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(man shouting)
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Despite more
than 100,000 Russian troops
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now massed on Ukraine's border,
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Russia still claims
it's the real victim,
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threatened by the U.S.
and its NATO allies,
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and Moscow insists
it has no plans
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to invade Ukraine.
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Yeah, Putin says that Russia
has no plans to invade Ukraine.
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So I guess those 100,000 troops
on the border--
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they're just doing that thing
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where you stand outside
a restaurant and read the menu.
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(Russian accent): No, no,
we are not going in right now.
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Maybe we come back
for special occasion.
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And look, I know
it's hard to feel sorry
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for anybody
with a Russian accent,
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but I do actually understand
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why Russia is so freaked out
by NATO.
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Because here's the thing.
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Don't forget
that NATO was formed
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to oppose the Soviet Union,
right?
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That's why it was formed.
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Then the Soviet Union broke up,
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but instead of disbanding,
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NATO has been expanding closer
and closer to Russia's borders.
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So from a Russian point of view,
just a Russian point of view,
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it's almost like
they lost the boxing match,
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but then the guy who beat them
moved in next door.
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(Russian accent):
Uh, the fight is over.
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What are you doing here?
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(Southern accent):
I don't know, man. You tell me.
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So, there's a lot of complex
issues at play right here,
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which is why the UN held
an emergency session this week
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to try and find a peaceful
solution to avert war.
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And I don't know
if you know this,
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but we at The Daily Show,
we have an exclusive look
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at what goes down in the UN,
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which means it is time
for another installment
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of "Inside the UN."
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♪ ♪
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All right, all right,
all right, everybody.
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I hereby call this session
of the U.N.
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into, uh, session.
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Uh...
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one-one second, guys, please.
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Please, one second.
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Hello? Yes.
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Comcast. Yes.
301
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I need to set up news service,
please.
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In Ukraine.
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Uh, in one week, we can say?
304
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No, no, no,
I don't need sports packages.
305
00:12:28,815 --> 00:12:31,985
Oh, you-you think this is funny?
There's nothing funny
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about invading
other countries, okay?
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You can't do that!
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It's called consent,
Harvey Weinstein!
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Hey, come on, isn't it annoying
to remember the names
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of all these small,
nothing countries, huh?
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Ukraine. Latvia. Poland.
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Yada-yada.
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Who can keep track?
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If they were all Russia,
it would be so much simpler
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for everybody.
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I mean, yes, it would.
But let's be clear.
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If you invade Ukraine,
there will be consequences.
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Isn't that right, guys?
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-Yes!
-Yeah!
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Uh... ja?
321
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See? A united front.
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Well, let us be clear.
323
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If you retaliate against Russia,
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we will have no choice
but to release...
325
00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:21,735
this devastating meme.
326
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One click,
and it goes out on Facebook.
327
00:13:25,906 --> 00:13:27,708
Now, don't you dare, Russia.
328
00:13:27,808 --> 00:13:30,711
Excuse me. Excuse me, everybody.
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Can I just say something?
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You go ahead, South Africa.
331
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Are you really going to keep me
wearing this?
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I mean, think about it--
333
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you guys have more Omicron
than we do now.
334
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-Yep.
-Ja.
335
00:13:41,755 --> 00:13:43,423
Yeah, sorry,
just a few more weeks.
336
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We don't... we don't trust
that African COVID.
337
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Gentlemen, please.
We need to focus.
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The future of Ukraine is
at stake.
339
00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:54,801
No, excuse me, the future
of Russia is at stake.
340
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NATO practically
surrounds Russia now.
341
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What trick do we have, huh?
342
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Russia is 5,000-mile country.
343
00:14:02,209 --> 00:14:04,845
We need room to stretch legs.
344
00:14:04,945 --> 00:14:08,682
Well, I'm sorry,
but you don't get to tell NATO
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who we can and cannot have
as a member.
346
00:14:11,552 --> 00:14:14,721
If we want to let Ukraine in,
well, that's up to us.
347
00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:16,456
Yes! That's right!
348
00:14:16,557 --> 00:14:17,925
By the way, America,
349
00:14:18,058 --> 00:14:20,394
are you going
to let us into NATO, though?
350
00:14:20,494 --> 00:14:22,663
We've been asking for a while.
351
00:14:22,763 --> 00:14:24,765
Well, look, I don't know. Maybe.
352
00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:27,501
See, the thing is,
once we let you in,
353
00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:29,570
well, you won't have
to beg us anymore,
354
00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:31,705
and we kind of like that.
355
00:14:31,805 --> 00:14:34,308
So it is, like...
356
00:14:34,408 --> 00:14:36,577
sexual thing?
357
00:14:36,677 --> 00:14:38,579
Well, yeah, I guess kinda.
358
00:14:38,679 --> 00:14:40,280
Ah.
359
00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,082
Hey! This is all nonsense.
360
00:14:42,149 --> 00:14:44,451
Ukraine is Russia's neighbor.
361
00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:46,587
How would you like it, America,
362
00:14:46,687 --> 00:14:50,090
if we made military alliance
with Canada?
363
00:14:50,157 --> 00:14:53,627
Hey! Canada is our bitch, okay?
364
00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:55,662
You stay the hell away.
365
00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:59,499
Uh, actually, eh, Canada is
its own sovereign independent...
366
00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,335
-Shut up, Canada!
-Shut up, Canada!
367
00:15:01,435 --> 00:15:02,436
So sorry.
368
00:15:02,536 --> 00:15:04,338
We'll talk
about this outburst later.
369
00:15:04,438 --> 00:15:07,474
As for you, Russia,
you better think real carefully
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00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:09,343
about your next move.
371
00:15:09,443 --> 00:15:13,347
Look, we would still prefer to
solve Ukraine issue peacefully.
372
00:15:13,447 --> 00:15:15,082
And as token of goodwill,
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we have baked for you
American specialty--
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00:15:18,819 --> 00:15:20,888
apple pie.
375
00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:22,523
See that? (sniffs)
376
00:15:22,623 --> 00:15:26,059
Ah, so delicious.
Please, try piece.
377
00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:27,327
Let's see, what...
378
00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:29,596
Well, I ain't never seen
an apple pie like this
379
00:15:29,696 --> 00:15:32,065
with all them syringes
sticking out of it.
380
00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:34,067
But I... I am hungry.
381
00:15:34,168 --> 00:15:35,836
No, no, America, wait!
382
00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:37,237
Huh?
383
00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:40,707
Actually, it's nothing.
384
00:15:40,807 --> 00:15:43,076
Enjoy your pie.
385
00:15:43,143 --> 00:15:45,179
Nothing like a bit
of apple pie.
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00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:46,713
♪ ♪
387
00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:48,782
Mmm. Now I want
some Russian pie.
388
00:15:48,882 --> 00:15:50,250
All right, when we come back,
389
00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:52,386
Roy Wood Jr. is gonna put
his life savings
390
00:15:52,486 --> 00:15:54,087
into breakfast cereal.
391
00:15:54,188 --> 00:15:56,156
You don't want to miss it.
392
00:15:56,256 --> 00:15:58,425
Think we can order
a Russian pie?
393
00:16:00,193 --> 00:16:01,360
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
394
00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:04,330
America is a nation
of entrepreneurs.
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00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:07,834
And Roy Wood Jr. gets in on
the action in his new segment
396
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Black in Business.
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00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:11,904
♪ ♪
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I'm Roy Wood Jr., and every
week, I shine a light on
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00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:18,244
Black entrepreneurs
changing the game.
400
00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:21,280
From app developers to the
DVD man who somehow already
401
00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:23,316
has his hands on John Wick 7,
402
00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:25,518
If you're Black,
we're in business.
403
00:16:25,618 --> 00:16:27,920
♪ ♪
404
00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,355
Right on, people.
405
00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:30,890
Welcome to Black in Business.
406
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,227
This week, I'm betting it all
on a sector that's experiencing
407
00:16:34,327 --> 00:16:36,496
credible growth in
my house this year:
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00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:38,097
breakfast cereal.
409
00:16:38,197 --> 00:16:39,966
We all know the big players.
410
00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,167
Tony the Tigers,
411
00:16:41,267 --> 00:16:43,035
the leprechaun that
steals from white kids
412
00:16:43,136 --> 00:16:45,905
and the rabbit that
also steals from white kids.
413
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,674
But ain't none
of them cereals Black.
414
00:16:48,775 --> 00:16:50,410
Unless you count
the Raisin Bran box,
415
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:53,279
which, I mean, just...
kind of feels Black.
416
00:16:53,379 --> 00:16:57,450
But now there is a new face
in the cereal bowl.
417
00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:59,619
I sat down with Nic King,
418
00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:02,088
a man who's introducing
a cereal that's in the shape
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00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:03,923
of a Black power fist.
420
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:08,294
He is truly putting
Black in Business.
421
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:09,762
♪ ♪
422
00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:11,864
Nic King, much
respect to you, brother.
423
00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:16,669
You are basically the Jackie
Robinson of breakfast cereals.
424
00:17:16,769 --> 00:17:18,471
Should have called
them things 42s.
425
00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:20,807
The biggest piece for me
is how important it is
426
00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:24,077
for Black kids to see
themselves in a positive light.
427
00:17:24,177 --> 00:17:26,646
And breakfast cereal's a space
that has never been infiltrated,
428
00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:29,082
so, uh, I just wanted
to be that change.
429
00:17:29,182 --> 00:17:33,086
Well, you got a good product.
I can't wait to see these fists.
430
00:17:33,186 --> 00:17:35,088
Man, these is kibbles.
431
00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:36,956
I know kibbles when I
see-- This is cat food!
432
00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,191
It's supposed to be fists!
433
00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:40,026
Yeah, actually, uh, it's, uh,
434
00:17:40,126 --> 00:17:42,662
no longer, unfortunately,
empowerment fists,
435
00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:45,431
Uh, we've gone through multiple
different manufacturing
436
00:17:45,531 --> 00:17:48,167
companies that said the shape of
the cereal was too complex.
437
00:17:48,334 --> 00:17:50,436
Hang on, hang on. T-They said
it was too complex?
438
00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:52,105
They got, they got
Cinnamon Toast shape,
439
00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:55,541
they got Honey Smack frog turds,
but you can't make this?
440
00:17:55,641 --> 00:17:57,510
We're dealing with a
100-year-old industry,
441
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,812
and because we didn't want to
slow up the company any further,
442
00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:02,482
we have transitioned
to regular circular puffs.
443
00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,817
What about the kids? What do the
kids say? Have they tasted it?
444
00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,286
Kids have 100% given
their approval.
445
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,588
-What kids? What kids...
-All kids.
446
00:18:08,688 --> 00:18:11,190
My son is my first
original taste tester.
447
00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,893
-Oh. Oh, he don't count.
-Uh, he's now 15.
448
00:18:13,993 --> 00:18:15,328
That's your son.
You'd kick him out of the house.
449
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,829
You know what? You know
what I'm-a do for you, bro?
450
00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:19,298
I'm-a do a taste test
with kids you don't know.
451
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,702
-I-I accept the challenge.
-Mm-hmm.
452
00:18:22,802 --> 00:18:24,504
♪ ♪
453
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:25,671
Hello, panel.
454
00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,807
First off, thank you
for taking the time
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00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,175
to appear on Black in Business.
456
00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:31,544
I know you all have a hard out
right before bedtime.
457
00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:32,578
So let's get right to it.
458
00:18:32,678 --> 00:18:34,981
Now, have any of you all seen
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00:18:35,081 --> 00:18:38,117
any cereal with Black people
on the box before?
460
00:18:38,217 --> 00:18:39,652
-No.
-No.
461
00:18:39,752 --> 00:18:44,323
I only seen that raisi-raisin
cereal that has that sun on it.
462
00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,659
See? Told you
that shit was Black.
463
00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:48,594
That's a smart one right there.
464
00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:50,329
So, Bailey,
you've tried the cereal.
465
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:52,331
Give us your analysis.
466
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:56,869
I like it, the-the cereal,
'cause it's crunchy.
467
00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:59,705
Is this cereal for Black people?
Just saying.
468
00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:02,909
I'm not trying to make anything
offensive. But just saying.
469
00:19:03,943 --> 00:19:05,311
That's a very fair question.
470
00:19:05,411 --> 00:19:07,513
This cereal was created
by a Black person.
471
00:19:07,613 --> 00:19:08,981
So, in knowing that,
how would you feel
472
00:19:09,082 --> 00:19:10,483
if you saw one
of your white friends
473
00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,885
eating a Black-owned cereal?
474
00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:16,789
The only-- the only white person
I know is my girlfriend.
475
00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:18,291
(chuckles)
476
00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:19,892
WOOD:
Okay.
477
00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:22,462
Well, that was unexpected.
478
00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:24,764
But an answer nonetheless.
479
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,165
Continuing on,
480
00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:29,135
what would make this cereal
an even better investment?
481
00:19:29,302 --> 00:19:33,339
If the cereal
tastes more like fists.
482
00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:35,508
Okay. Raise your spoon
483
00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:37,844
if you're also disappointed
that the cereal
484
00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:39,779
is not shaped like a fist.
485
00:19:41,314 --> 00:19:43,182
So you all are saying
the cereal itself
486
00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:44,817
just needs to live up
to the radical message
487
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:46,886
that's on the box.
488
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,755
Scuse me a second.
That's a good idea.
489
00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:50,790
-Good idea.
-♪ ♪
490
00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:52,658
All right, Nic. Good news.
491
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,460
I spoke with children
not related to you
492
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,130
and they all thought
the cereal tasted great.
493
00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:59,265
-I told you they would. -Mm-hmm.
Now, there was one thing
494
00:19:59,298 --> 00:20:02,168
that the kids were a little
disappointed on, and that's
495
00:20:02,268 --> 00:20:04,003
the cereal was not shaped
like a fist.
496
00:20:04,103 --> 00:20:06,005
Now I know you have explained
497
00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:09,308
why the cereal can't be a fist,
but in the meantime, Nic,
498
00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:11,277
you got to lean
into the cereal being Black.
499
00:20:11,344 --> 00:20:12,912
In fact,
you need to make it Blacker.
500
00:20:13,012 --> 00:20:15,548
Uh, I'm a little nervous
about it, man,
501
00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:16,983
but go ahead, Roy.
502
00:20:17,083 --> 00:20:19,318
Here's a Black ass cereal
I know you would go hard for--
503
00:20:19,419 --> 00:20:20,753
Fred's Flakes.
504
00:20:20,853 --> 00:20:23,389
Now, Nic, don't go
nodding your head, Nic.
505
00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:25,591
what better spokesperson
for cereal
506
00:20:25,691 --> 00:20:26,926
than the chairman
of the Illinois
507
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,328
Black Panther Party,
Fred Hamp...?
508
00:20:29,429 --> 00:20:31,297
The dude
who played Fred Hampton.
509
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,499
What-What else do you have, Roy?
510
00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,435
Okay, okay,
now, what about this one?
511
00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:37,303
I got a cereal for Black people
that they can enjoy
512
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:38,938
with their white girlfriends--
513
00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:41,808
-Ally-Os.
-No, that...
514
00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:44,343
Too far, too far. That's...
515
00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:46,612
Ally-O's?
"I recognize my privilege"?
516
00:20:46,712 --> 00:20:48,347
No, you don't say it like that.
517
00:20:48,448 --> 00:20:49,715
You say it
like Tony the Tiger.
518
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,652
(like Tony the Tiger):
I recognize my privilege!
519
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,021
It's a slogan.
You got to say it like that.
520
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:56,322
I'm-I'm gonna be honest, Roy.
521
00:20:56,422 --> 00:20:57,857
I didn't... I didn't want
to ruin this for you.
522
00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,159
Your creativity was good.
I didn't want to kill it.
523
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,095
But at the end of the day,
I want kids to be able
524
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,297
to sit at a table
and see themselves,
525
00:21:04,397 --> 00:21:06,399
see positive
Black representation
526
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:08,801
on a cereal box,
and that's the idea.
527
00:21:08,901 --> 00:21:11,104
That's why I built Proud Puffs.
528
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,473
You know what, Nic King?
I respect your vision,
529
00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:15,641
and I'm gonna change your life
right now
530
00:21:15,742 --> 00:21:17,543
by investing in your cereal.
531
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:19,278
I'm gonna make your dreams
come true. Now,
532
00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:21,280
how much money do you need
for an initial investment?
533
00:21:21,347 --> 00:21:25,118
I would say anywhere upwards
to, uh, 300K.
534
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:27,353
-Oh. -Somewhere around there,
ballpark.
535
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,056
Yeah. Damn. I do not have
that kind of money.
536
00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,592
Which is why I'll see you
next episode
537
00:21:32,692 --> 00:21:34,894
where I'll be examining
another breakfast industry--
538
00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:36,629
toast.
539
00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:39,031
That's one I could afford.
I think that could work.
540
00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:40,700
You got English muffin,
you got wheat,
541
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,934
you got white,
you got multigrain,
542
00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:44,070
you got brioche buns.
543
00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:46,339
Thank you so much
for that, Roy.
544
00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:47,540
All right, when we come back,
545
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,808
Gugu Mbatha-Raw
is gonna be joining me
546
00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,210
right here in the studio,
so don't go away.
547
00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:54,213
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
548
00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:55,948
My guest tonight
is actor and producer
549
00:21:56,049 --> 00:21:57,216
Gugu Mbatha-Raw.
550
00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:59,118
She's here to talk about
starring in the new
551
00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:02,855
psychological thriller series
The Girl Before.
552
00:22:02,955 --> 00:22:05,591
It's all about
architectural legacy for me.
553
00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,627
JANE: On the face of it, it's
554
00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:09,762
totally different
from your work.
555
00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:14,500
But then you start
to see the similarities.
556
00:22:17,637 --> 00:22:20,573
Restraint. Simplicity.
557
00:22:21,607 --> 00:22:23,342
Like Folgate Street.
558
00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:25,578
To have let go of that house,
you must have
559
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:28,581
-moved somewhere incredible.
-I'm on-site, mostly.
560
00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:31,684
Mainly caravans or hotels.
561
00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:34,020
It's bearable, as long as
562
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,822
you put the cushions
in the wardrobe.
563
00:22:35,922 --> 00:22:37,290
(short laugh)
564
00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:38,324
Really?
565
00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,659
No.
566
00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:42,228
Yes.
567
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:45,264
-Sometimes.
-(soft chuckle)
568
00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,767
Yo, that guy's creepy.
569
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:48,935
I'm just gonna put it out there.
570
00:22:49,035 --> 00:22:51,637
-Like, that guy's creepy.
-Yeah. Yeah.
571
00:22:51,738 --> 00:22:53,239
There's definitely an energy
that you get in the show
572
00:22:53,339 --> 00:22:56,709
when you watch it where you go,
"Uh, I don't know this person,
573
00:22:56,809 --> 00:22:58,311
but he really,
really creeps me out."
574
00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:00,646
-Welcome to the show, Gugu.
-Oh, thanks for having me.
575
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:02,682
Um, congratulations
on yet another show
576
00:23:02,782 --> 00:23:04,417
that I think is gonna
get a lot of people talking,
577
00:23:04,517 --> 00:23:06,853
as-as all your shows do.
I feel like you-you have
578
00:23:06,953 --> 00:23:09,355
a, like, just a knack
for picking really great roles
579
00:23:09,455 --> 00:23:11,524
in really great,
either limited series or shows.
580
00:23:11,624 --> 00:23:13,493
I mean, people loved you,
you know, in Black Mirror.
581
00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:16,062
"San Junipero" is one of
people's favorite episodes.
582
00:23:16,162 --> 00:23:18,398
In Loki, you got
some of the best reviews,
583
00:23:18,498 --> 00:23:20,800
which is not usual for,
like, a superhero franchise.
584
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,268
You know? People are like,
"Ah, whatever."
585
00:23:22,335 --> 00:23:23,603
-People were like, "You were
amazing in it." -Aw, thanks.
586
00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:26,406
And now here you are with
this new... Is it a miniseries
587
00:23:26,506 --> 00:23:29,142
-or a limited series?
-It's, uh, a-a limited series.
588
00:23:29,275 --> 00:23:30,710
-It's four episodes.
-Right.
589
00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:32,645
-Yeah.
-Where you're playing
590
00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,881
what I think many New Yorkers
will-will relate to:
591
00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:37,517
somebody who has rented a place
592
00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,119
from a very creepy person.
593
00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:41,888
I know. I mean,
it's such a departure
594
00:23:41,988 --> 00:23:44,323
for-for David Oyelowo as well,
because, I mean,
595
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,292
-I know you know him as well.
But he's, um, -Right, right.
596
00:23:46,392 --> 00:23:48,661
You know, everybody
knows him from Selma,
597
00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,430
Martin Luther King, and
all the things that he's done.
598
00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:54,233
And this character of Edward
really keeps you guessing.
599
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,670
-Because, uh, he's this
minimalist architect. -Mm-hmm.
600
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,539
Uh, he's a perfectionist,
601
00:23:59,639 --> 00:24:02,575
and, uh,
you can't quite figure out,
602
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,011
you know, if he's a good guy,
if he's a bad guy.
603
00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:06,412
And, you know, every episode,
604
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,581
there are so many twists
and turns in the story.
605
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,751
Um, but, yeah, it's been-- it's
been a wonderful experience.
606
00:24:11,851 --> 00:24:14,253
Y-You know what-what's really
gonna shock some people is,
607
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,289
I-I was watching the clip
with one of my colleagues
608
00:24:16,389 --> 00:24:18,157
and then she was like, "Oh, wow,
609
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:19,792
she does a really great,
um, English accent."
610
00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:21,661
-(laughing)
-(chuckles)
611
00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:23,663
And then-- And I was thinking,
I wonder how many people
612
00:24:23,763 --> 00:24:25,832
would think that about you
and David, where they go, like,
613
00:24:25,932 --> 00:24:28,901
"Wow, they're doing really
fantastic English accents."
614
00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:31,504
Are there people who know
where you're from at all?
615
00:24:31,604 --> 00:24:34,040
I know. It's so funny, because
when I first read the script
616
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,943
for The Girl Before, I was
in the middle of filming Loki
617
00:24:37,043 --> 00:24:39,679
-and I'd been doing an American
accent for so long. -Right.
618
00:24:39,779 --> 00:24:42,015
And, um, it's-it's a weird one.
619
00:24:42,115 --> 00:24:44,617
I sort of... I-I take that
as a compliment, I think,
620
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:46,786
you know, if people see you
as an American
621
00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:48,955
and-and believe you so fully,
uh,
622
00:24:49,055 --> 00:24:52,392
that-that even your own accent
feels alien, um...
623
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:55,128
I mean, when I did Belle,
you know, several years ago,
624
00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:57,463
I'd been doing
an American accent, sort of,
625
00:24:57,563 --> 00:24:59,799
-for about three years solid
in projects... -Yeah, yeah.
626
00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:02,068
...and I... (laughs)
genuinely myself thought,
627
00:25:02,235 --> 00:25:04,504
"Do I know how to act
in my own accent anymore?
628
00:25:04,604 --> 00:25:06,472
"It's just been so long
that I've been doing
629
00:25:06,572 --> 00:25:07,807
the American thing." So, um...
630
00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:09,308
But, yeah, it's nice to be able
631
00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:10,710
to kind of switch back
and forth.
632
00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:12,712
And-and, as I say, I sort of--
I'm flattered
633
00:25:12,812 --> 00:25:14,647
if people believe me
as an American, too.
634
00:25:14,747 --> 00:25:16,683
I think people believe you
in any role that you play.
635
00:25:16,783 --> 00:25:18,251
You-you received
the Essence Award--
636
00:25:18,284 --> 00:25:19,585
-congratulations-- you know, the
Breakthrough Award. -Thank you.
637
00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:21,721
That is where you met David,
right? Like...
638
00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:23,823
Sort-- Not met him officially
but you asked him
639
00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:25,258
to present the award,
and that sort of...
640
00:25:25,324 --> 00:25:27,026
Yeah. Well,
it's funny, actually,
641
00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:29,762
'cause me and David were
both born in the same hospital.
642
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,464
-Uh, he's a bit older than me.
-Wait, are you serious?
643
00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:33,132
(chuckles): Yeah. H-He was bo--
644
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:34,634
We were both born in Oxford
645
00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:37,637
at the John Radcliffe Hospital,
um, a few years apart.
646
00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:40,039
And, uh... So-so
there's-there's that connection,
647
00:25:40,139 --> 00:25:41,774
which is--
which is sort of surreal.
648
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,444
And then he was one of the first
British actors that I met
649
00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:47,046
when I went to L.A.
and I didn't know anybody
650
00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:49,082
and I was doing
a TV series there.
651
00:25:49,182 --> 00:25:51,884
And, you know,
I met him and his family,
652
00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:54,420
and I just was so impressed,
'cause I was like,
653
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,756
"Here's this man
who's an incredibly talented
654
00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:59,559
theater actor and film actor,"
655
00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:01,994
but he's also just got such
a grounded real life, as well."
656
00:26:02,095 --> 00:26:03,796
-Yeah, definitely.
-And I was just so...
657
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:06,232
I was so impressed with that.
658
00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:08,634
Um, and when-when
I was nominated for, um,
659
00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:12,772
or won the ESSENCE Award,
I asked him to present it to me.
660
00:26:12,872 --> 00:26:15,308
And he... he actually took me
by surprise
661
00:26:15,408 --> 00:26:17,443
because he brought his daughter
Zoe onto the stage...
662
00:26:17,543 --> 00:26:20,079
-Right. -...to present it
to me, which...
663
00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:21,581
which kind of
took my breath away
664
00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:24,617
because she reminded me
of this mini version of me.
665
00:26:24,717 --> 00:26:25,718
(laughter)
666
00:26:25,818 --> 00:26:27,720
And-and it was... it was...
667
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:29,389
You know, it made me cry.
It was so moving.
668
00:26:29,489 --> 00:26:30,857
But it was also...
669
00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:32,558
I mean, he's very smart
like that-- David.
670
00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:36,429
Because I sort of saw myself
in her, and I also...
671
00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:40,266
-It gave me a moment to really
ground my work in a way. -Mm.
672
00:26:40,299 --> 00:26:43,336
Because I felt like
now I have to choose projects
673
00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:46,172
-that are sort of good enough
for Zoe. -Right, right, right.
674
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:48,307
That's the sort of,
you know, that idea of legacy
675
00:26:48,408 --> 00:26:50,376
and the idea
of what she's looking up,
676
00:26:50,476 --> 00:26:51,744
seeing somebody
that looks like...
677
00:26:51,844 --> 00:26:53,312
As much
as I see a younger version
678
00:26:53,413 --> 00:26:56,215
of myself in her, she might see
an older version of herself
679
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:57,950
-in me, so, yeah, makes you...
-That's amazing. Yeah.
680
00:26:58,051 --> 00:26:59,585
I feel like that's a lot
of pressure, though.
681
00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,087
Right, but not always,
but then,
682
00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:02,722
there's things like Loki,
for example, where you go,
683
00:27:02,822 --> 00:27:04,657
"Wow. Like, what would
my seven-year-old self
684
00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:06,926
-be doing now?" You know?
-Right, right, right.
685
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:08,728
Or would...
I would be pinching myself.
686
00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:10,530
And so... so rather
than seeing it as a pressure,
687
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,366
I sort of see it as also
to give myself permission
688
00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:15,101
-to be joyful and playful,
as well. -Oh, I like that.
689
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:17,637
You have, like, one of the most
interesting connections
690
00:27:17,737 --> 00:27:20,673
with Loki, as well, because Tom
Hiddleston plays Loki, right?
691
00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:23,843
-Yeah. -And then you went
to the same drama school as him?
692
00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,246
Yup, he was the year
below me at drama school,
693
00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:28,815
even though I'm a bit younger
than him, yeah.
694
00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:31,751
You realize you almost have,
like, a horror movie story vibe.
695
00:27:31,851 --> 00:27:33,886
It's just, no one's getting
killed in your story.
696
00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:35,254
But you're, like,
following all the people.
697
00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:37,357
"We were born
at the same hospital.
698
00:27:37,457 --> 00:27:39,325
-We went to the same school."
-I know.
699
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:40,993
-Like, the degrees of
separation, right? Yeah. -Yes.
700
00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:43,296
No one's died,
but it... you know?
701
00:27:43,396 --> 00:27:45,531
Yeah, I mean, it was really
comforting, I think,
702
00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,633
especially filming Loki
during 2020,
703
00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:50,069
to be surrounded
by so many Brits.
704
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:53,373
-And Wunmi Mosaku as well, who
plays B-15 in the show, -Yes.
705
00:27:53,473 --> 00:27:55,074
was also at RADA.
706
00:27:55,208 --> 00:27:57,477
So it felt like a, you know,
a bit of a Brit reunion,
707
00:27:57,577 --> 00:28:00,213
and I think when the world
was just so unstable,
708
00:28:00,246 --> 00:28:02,382
it was really comforting
for all of us
709
00:28:02,482 --> 00:28:05,084
to be around our sort of
old drama school buddies.
710
00:28:05,218 --> 00:28:06,719
You're someone
who's done everything.
711
00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:08,888
I mean, you know,
a lot of people will know you
712
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:10,056
from your acting.
713
00:28:10,223 --> 00:28:11,624
Um, you've also been somebody
714
00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:13,626
who's been
really closely involved,
715
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:15,661
um, you know,
with the United Nations
716
00:28:15,762 --> 00:28:17,030
and working around the world.
717
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:19,098
I didn't know this about you
until I read
718
00:28:19,232 --> 00:28:20,433
a little deeper into your world.
719
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:22,468
So I've always known that
your dad is South African,
720
00:28:22,568 --> 00:28:23,669
-Yeah.
-your mom is English.
721
00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:25,471
I always knew
that your name Gugulethu is,
722
00:28:25,571 --> 00:28:27,240
-Yeah.
-you know, from South Africa.
723
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:29,976
But what I didn't know
was that your dad
724
00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:33,246
had to escape South Africa
because he was fighting
725
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,615
the apartheid government,
and it was actually...
726
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,750
the U.N., partly,
that helped him...
727
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:39,852
-I mean, that circle...
-Yeah, the circle of life,
728
00:28:39,952 --> 00:28:41,721
it's really truly incredible.
729
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:44,757
And it's-it's a strange thing,
because, you know,
730
00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:48,027
obviously it's
an incredible honor to become,
731
00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:50,830
-um, a goodwill ambassador
for UNHCR. -Mm-hmm.
732
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:52,932
But my dad, you know,
under the apartheid era,
733
00:28:53,032 --> 00:28:57,103
was a student activist,
a member of the ANC,
734
00:28:57,203 --> 00:29:00,440
you know, and, um,
and had to flee, um,
735
00:29:00,540 --> 00:29:03,109
and it was a very difficult time
for him,
736
00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:06,012
and he was... he was studying,
doing his medical training,
737
00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:09,649
and he actually--
UNHCR helped him
738
00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:11,351
finish his medical training
739
00:29:11,451 --> 00:29:13,486
and, you know,
and come to the UK.
740
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:17,223
So when I got the call to be
able to go on my first mission
741
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:20,793
with UNHCR, you know,
my cousin was like,
742
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:23,062
"Aha!" You know,
"That is an ancestral call."
743
00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:25,398
You know, like that truly is
an ancestral call,
744
00:29:25,498 --> 00:29:27,367
that it sort of brings it back,
745
00:29:27,467 --> 00:29:30,470
um, and it makes it
so much more meaningful for me,
746
00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:33,272
you know, to know that that's
part of my cultural legacy, too.
747
00:29:33,373 --> 00:29:35,708
Gugu, thank you so much
for joining me on the show.
748
00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:37,777
-Thank you. -Congratulations
on everything that you've done.
749
00:29:37,877 --> 00:29:39,512
-Thanks so much.
-All right, people,
750
00:29:39,612 --> 00:29:41,414
all four episodes
of The Girl Before
751
00:29:41,514 --> 00:29:43,416
will be available on HBO Max
February 10.
752
00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:45,118
We're gonna take a quick break,
753
00:29:45,251 --> 00:29:47,253
but we'll be right back
after this.
754
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:51,624
Well, that's our show
for tonight, but before we go--
755
00:29:51,725 --> 00:29:53,626
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They're an organization
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So if you want to support them
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761
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Until tomorrow,
stay safe out there,
762
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:09,376
get your vaccine, and remember,
763
00:30:09,476 --> 00:30:13,179
if you've ever even heard
of Jeff Zucker,
764
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,048
you might be next.
765
00:30:15,148 --> 00:30:18,084
Now, here it is,
Your Moment of Zen.
766
00:30:18,184 --> 00:30:21,087
On Saturday, at the rally,
you talked about the potential,
767
00:30:21,187 --> 00:30:22,756
if it's appropriate,
768
00:30:22,856 --> 00:30:24,891
-of pardoning some
of the January 6ers. -Yeah.
769
00:30:24,991 --> 00:30:26,993
Lindsey Graham said
a couple of days later
770
00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:28,795
he thinks that's inappropriate.
771
00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:30,964
-What do you think?
-Well, Lindsey Graham's wrong.
772
00:30:31,064 --> 00:30:33,566
You said that! Not me.
773
00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:35,568
I hope the American people
can see through this sham.
774
00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:37,570
I mean, Lindsey's a nice guy,
but he's a RINO...
775
00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:38,872
(distorted echo):
he's a RINO...
776
00:30:38,972 --> 00:30:40,173
This is hell.
777
00:30:40,273 --> 00:30:43,176
This is going to destroy
778
00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:45,478
the ability of good people
to come forward
779
00:30:45,578 --> 00:30:47,747
because of this crap!