1 00:00:01,201 --> 00:00:02,636 I saw... I went to South Africa this weekend. 2 00:00:02,736 --> 00:00:04,104 It was a really fun trip. Went to see family, 3 00:00:04,204 --> 00:00:06,406 went to see friends and everybody, and so I'm... 4 00:00:06,507 --> 00:00:07,941 This is so cool, 'cause I'm in South Africa, 5 00:00:08,041 --> 00:00:09,943 and I obviously meet people who know me. 6 00:00:10,043 --> 00:00:11,478 They've known me, like, for many years, 7 00:00:11,578 --> 00:00:14,181 either from my life or from, like, comedy or whatever. 8 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:16,950 And so I go to get my COVID test to fly back to the U.S. 9 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:19,520 And one of the guys who's there, like, taking the payment, 10 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:21,221 he's like... he's like, "Hey, Trevor." 11 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:22,890 He's like, "Oh, man, I'm a big fan yours, bro." 12 00:00:22,990 --> 00:00:24,458 I'm like, "Ah, thank you, dude. Thank you very much." 13 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:25,993 He's like, "Yeah, man, you make us so proud in South Africa. 14 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:27,394 We love what you do." 15 00:00:27,494 --> 00:00:29,196 Then I was like, "Thank you very much. Thank you." 16 00:00:29,296 --> 00:00:33,166 He's like, "Ah, but Trevor, I've got one question, my man." 17 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:35,002 So I'm like, "What's-what's the question?" 18 00:00:35,102 --> 00:00:36,737 He's like, "Ah, Trevor, why do you change your accent 19 00:00:36,837 --> 00:00:39,339 when you're in America, my man?" 20 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:40,807 Now mind you, he's just changed his accent 21 00:00:40,908 --> 00:00:43,010 while he's saying this to me, right? 22 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:44,912 So I go like, "What do you mean?" 23 00:00:45,012 --> 00:00:47,247 So he's like, "Ah, Trevor, ah, my man, 24 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:48,882 "When you're talking there in America, 25 00:00:48,982 --> 00:00:50,717 "like, everything you say, it sounds so, like... 26 00:00:50,817 --> 00:00:52,252 You know, it's almost American." 27 00:00:52,352 --> 00:00:54,521 And I'm like, "No, that's... that's how I talk." 28 00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:56,456 He's like, "Yeah, I know, but why don't you, like, 29 00:00:56,557 --> 00:00:58,325 make it more African, you know?" 30 00:00:58,425 --> 00:01:00,060 So I'm like, "What do you mean?" 31 00:01:00,093 --> 00:01:02,062 He's like, "Yeah, like, I saw you in Coming to America. 32 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:03,497 "Then I was like, 'That accent.' 33 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:06,099 That's the one you should do." So, I'm like, 34 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,734 "So you want me to go on The Daily Show and be like, 35 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:09,169 (with accent): "'Hello, everybody. 36 00:01:09,269 --> 00:01:11,371 My name is Trevor Noah. welcome to this TV show.'?" 37 00:01:11,471 --> 00:01:13,841 And he's like, "Yeah, exactly. You can do it!" 38 00:01:13,941 --> 00:01:16,443 Then I was like, "But that's not my actual accent." 39 00:01:16,543 --> 00:01:18,145 He's like, "That's not the point. 40 00:01:18,245 --> 00:01:20,547 "The point is, Trevor, they must know this accent's out there. 41 00:01:20,647 --> 00:01:21,882 "When you're doing The Daily Show, they must be 42 00:01:21,982 --> 00:01:23,984 "like, 'Wow. Oh, man, this accent. 43 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:26,220 It's out there. It's doing things.'" 44 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,589 I was like, "You're gonna get me canceled in America." 45 00:01:28,689 --> 00:01:30,157 He's like, "Ah, they can't cancel you, Bobby. 46 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:32,125 Tell them to come to me." I was like, "They don't know you." 47 00:01:32,226 --> 00:01:34,494 -He's like, "Yeah, you must introduce me." -(laughter) 48 00:01:34,595 --> 00:01:36,730 Like, literally, this guy was like... 49 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:38,498 But he changed his accent to tell me the story. 50 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:40,100 Like, 'cause in South Africa, everyone... 51 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:41,768 You know what I mean? People call to each other all the time. 52 00:01:41,869 --> 00:01:43,103 You talk to your grandmother differently than you talk... 53 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:44,505 But now, the guy's like... Now, I imagine... 54 00:01:44,605 --> 00:01:46,974 Part of me wanted to do it, to be honest with you. 55 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:48,542 'Cause I mean, I don't know what people would say 56 00:01:48,642 --> 00:01:50,511 if I just came here, and then I was just like, 57 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:53,113 (with accent): "Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 58 00:01:53,146 --> 00:01:55,782 Let's catch up on today's headlines in Congress." 59 00:01:55,883 --> 00:01:57,217 And then people would be like, "What is he doing?" 60 00:01:57,317 --> 00:01:59,019 And then they'd cancel me. 61 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:00,888 They'd be like, "You can't talk like that." Then I'd be like, 62 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:02,589 (with accent): "Actually, the other accent was fake. 63 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:05,726 -Now I cancel you." -(laughter) 64 00:02:05,826 --> 00:02:08,428 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square 65 00:02:08,529 --> 00:02:11,765 in New York City, the only city in America, it's 66 00:02:11,865 --> 00:02:13,500 The Daily Show. 67 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,737 Tonight-- truckers invade Canada, 68 00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:19,540 Joe Rogan has a point, 69 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,075 and Representative Barbara Lee. 70 00:02:22,176 --> 00:02:26,980 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 71 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,282 Hey, what's going on, everybody? 72 00:02:28,382 --> 00:02:30,083 Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 73 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:32,085 Let's jump straight into today's headlines. 74 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:34,555 ♪ ♪ 75 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:38,258 We kick things off with the 45th president of the United States, 76 00:02:38,358 --> 00:02:40,594 Donald Jimminy Trump. 77 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:43,363 Trump is basically the ex that America kicked out 78 00:02:43,463 --> 00:02:45,766 for throwing an open house party at the Capitol. 79 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:49,903 And like many exes, he really wants a second chance. 80 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:53,207 But instead of promising to do better next time, 81 00:02:53,307 --> 00:02:56,210 he's threatening to do even worse. 82 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:59,346 Former President Trump returned to the campaign trail, 83 00:02:59,446 --> 00:03:00,948 so to speak, in Texas last night. 84 00:03:01,048 --> 00:03:03,550 And during this rally, Trump said 85 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:06,386 he would consider pardoning those prosecuted 86 00:03:06,486 --> 00:03:09,056 for attacking the U.S. Capitol on January 6. 87 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:13,393 If I run and if I win, we will treat those people 88 00:03:13,493 --> 00:03:16,063 -from January 6 fairly. -(cheering) 89 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:20,567 And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons 90 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:25,072 because they are being treated so unfairly. 91 00:03:25,138 --> 00:03:28,141 Trump also urged his supporters to hold massive protests 92 00:03:28,242 --> 00:03:30,911 in cities like New York, Atlanta and Washington D.C. 93 00:03:31,078 --> 00:03:32,546 if prosecutors investigating him 94 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:35,516 in those cities bring charges against him. 95 00:03:35,616 --> 00:03:39,086 If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors 96 00:03:39,152 --> 00:03:43,257 do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going to have 97 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:46,760 in this country the biggest protest we have ever had. 98 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:50,564 In reality, they're not after me. They're after you. 99 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:54,768 And I just happen to be the person that's in the way. 100 00:03:54,868 --> 00:03:57,137 Yo. Oh, man, 101 00:03:57,237 --> 00:04:00,207 Donald Trump is the greatest con man of all time. 102 00:04:00,307 --> 00:04:01,642 Did you hear everything this guy said? 103 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:02,943 Everything he said. 104 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:05,145 I mean, part of it was, like, the racist pers-- 105 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:06,847 Who are they racist to? 106 00:04:06,947 --> 00:04:10,651 Who is racist in this thing to Donald Trump, huh? 107 00:04:10,751 --> 00:04:12,686 And if you think about it, like, it's really smart, 108 00:04:12,786 --> 00:04:14,087 what he's saying, because, he could have 109 00:04:14,188 --> 00:04:16,256 pardoned all of his people when January 6th happened. 110 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:17,257 You realize that, right? 111 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:18,659 He was the president. 112 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:20,127 But he didn't pardon them. 113 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:21,828 He let them get prosecuted 114 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:23,664 and now they're all going to jail. 115 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:25,065 He let this happen. 116 00:04:25,165 --> 00:04:27,100 But now that his ass is on the line, 117 00:04:27,201 --> 00:04:29,970 now he's like, "Man, if I was president, 118 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:31,605 "if I was president, 119 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:33,707 I'd have never let this happen to you." 120 00:04:33,807 --> 00:04:35,676 But you did. 121 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:36,944 It is like some dirtbag being like, 122 00:04:37,077 --> 00:04:38,946 "(sucks teeth) Let me tell you something, 123 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:41,081 -"If you were my girl--" -But I'm your wife. 124 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:42,549 "Yeah, but if you were my girl, 125 00:04:42,649 --> 00:04:44,618 this shit wouldn't have happened, baby." 126 00:04:44,718 --> 00:04:47,855 You got to admit, Trump leans on his supporters really hard. 127 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:50,090 I mean, first, they had to storm the Capitol 128 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:51,959 because he lost the election. 129 00:04:52,092 --> 00:04:54,494 Then their donations went to his legal fees 130 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:56,430 because he's always getting sued. 131 00:04:56,530 --> 00:04:59,633 Now they have to protest if he gets charged? 132 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:01,401 Like, where does it end? 133 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:04,505 If Trump does go to prison, is he gonna make these poor people 134 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:06,673 smuggle cigarettes up their butts? 135 00:05:06,773 --> 00:05:08,308 "They're worth more unopened, 136 00:05:08,408 --> 00:05:11,411 "so make sure you get the whole carton up in there, 137 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:14,815 and don't clench. It'll squish the filters." 138 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:16,049 Anyway, moving on, 139 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:19,786 from, uh, Donald Trump to posh Donald Trump, 140 00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:22,422 Boris Johnson, the British prime minister 141 00:05:22,523 --> 00:05:23,624 and guy who starts every morning 142 00:05:23,724 --> 00:05:26,059 sticking a fork in an electrical outlet, 143 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:28,595 has been in quite a spot of bother lately, 144 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:30,664 which means it's time for another installment of 145 00:05:30,764 --> 00:05:33,133 Keep Calm and Party On. 146 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:34,768 ♪ ♪ 147 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:38,138 ♪ ♪ 148 00:05:38,238 --> 00:05:40,207 British Prime Minister Boris Johnson 149 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:42,543 just apologized to Parliament 150 00:05:42,643 --> 00:05:44,711 after a damning independent report was released 151 00:05:44,811 --> 00:05:47,114 this morning which condemns, 152 00:05:47,214 --> 00:05:51,285 "Failures of leadership and judgment by Johnson's office" 153 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:53,320 over those parties at 10 Downing Street 154 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:54,655 held during COVID lockdowns. 155 00:05:54,755 --> 00:05:56,924 NEWSWOMAN: The government being scolded like children. 156 00:05:57,090 --> 00:05:59,426 The report says, "There were serious failures to observe 157 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:00,861 the high standards." It says that 158 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:02,596 "Excessive alcohol shouldn't be drunk 159 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:04,898 at the workplace." It repeatedly describes 160 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:06,934 a culture of drinking and partying. 161 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:09,036 Boris Johnson was back in Parliament 162 00:06:09,136 --> 00:06:11,438 to try to justify the unjustifiable. 163 00:06:11,538 --> 00:06:14,174 Mr. Speaker, I get it. 164 00:06:14,274 --> 00:06:15,876 -And I will fix it. -(clamoring, shouting) 165 00:06:16,043 --> 00:06:18,045 And I want to say... 166 00:06:21,648 --> 00:06:25,686 And I want to say to the people of this country, 167 00:06:25,786 --> 00:06:28,222 I know what the issue is. 168 00:06:28,322 --> 00:06:29,489 (clamoring) 169 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:32,192 Yes, Mr. Speaker, yes. Yes. 170 00:06:32,292 --> 00:06:35,395 It's whether this government can be trusted to deliver. 171 00:06:35,495 --> 00:06:37,564 -(shouting) -And I say, Mr. Speaker, 172 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,967 yes, we can be trusted. 173 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:42,736 -(shouting) -Yes, we can be trusted to deliver. 174 00:06:42,836 --> 00:06:44,671 I love how he's like, "I identify the problem. 175 00:06:44,771 --> 00:06:46,540 I know what the--" Yeah, you made the problem. 176 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,808 Of course you know what the problem is. 177 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:49,676 "Well, I... (chuckles) Guys, I've solved it. 178 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:51,545 Because I did it." 179 00:06:51,645 --> 00:06:53,881 But, yes, according to this investigation, 180 00:06:53,981 --> 00:06:58,151 Boris Johnson's office had a culture of drinking and partying 181 00:06:58,252 --> 00:07:00,687 throughout the pandemic. 182 00:07:00,787 --> 00:07:02,389 And I'll be honest, I would be more convinced 183 00:07:02,489 --> 00:07:04,858 that Boris could fix it 184 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,461 if he didn't always look like an upside-down guy 185 00:07:07,561 --> 00:07:09,263 doing a keg stand. 186 00:07:09,363 --> 00:07:11,932 I got to say, my-my favorite part about this whole scandal 187 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:15,869 is actually how high school it is to get caught having a party. 188 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:17,571 I mean, think about it-- that's the level of scandal. 189 00:07:17,671 --> 00:07:19,740 Other world leaders are staging coups 190 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,175 and invading other countries. 191 00:07:21,275 --> 00:07:23,810 Meanwhile, Boris is filling vodka bottles up with water, 192 00:07:23,911 --> 00:07:25,846 like, "Hurry, hurry, the queen will be home soon. 193 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:27,047 Ho-ho-ho-ho." 194 00:07:27,147 --> 00:07:28,715 All right, but let's move on to our top story, 195 00:07:28,815 --> 00:07:31,518 which takes place in Canada, 196 00:07:31,618 --> 00:07:33,153 the friendliest country in the world 197 00:07:33,253 --> 00:07:35,189 if you don't count the French parts. 198 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:36,757 Today the news broke 199 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:38,525 that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau 200 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:41,929 has tested positive for COVID. 201 00:07:42,062 --> 00:07:43,463 And this is just another reminder 202 00:07:43,564 --> 00:07:45,866 of how contagious this virus is. 203 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:48,135 Even if you're vaxxed, boosted 204 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:49,536 and in disguise half of the time, 205 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:51,672 COVID will still find you. 206 00:07:51,772 --> 00:07:53,340 Now, because he's vaccinated, 207 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,076 Trudeau is handling the virus just fine. 208 00:07:56,109 --> 00:07:58,212 And that's good news for him, because it turns out 209 00:07:58,312 --> 00:08:01,915 he's got a much bigger problem to worry about. 210 00:08:02,015 --> 00:08:04,184 NEWSWOMAN: Right now, a group of Canadian truck drivers 211 00:08:04,284 --> 00:08:06,186 calling themselves the Freedom Convoy 212 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:08,121 tying up the streets of Ottawa. 213 00:08:08,222 --> 00:08:10,490 NEWSWOMAN 2: Thousands flooded the streets over the weekend. 214 00:08:10,591 --> 00:08:13,060 The truckers are using their rigs to block streets 215 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,395 and even the entrance to Parliament. 216 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:18,365 NEWSWOMAN 3: The demonstrations were initially aimed at pushback 217 00:08:18,465 --> 00:08:20,767 against vaccine mandates for truck drivers 218 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:23,170 crossing the U.S.-Canada border. 219 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:27,574 But the movement escalated into an expression of disapproval 220 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:30,944 with the Canadian government's COVID-19 policies. 221 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:33,080 This convoy is all about freedom. 222 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:35,082 It's not only with the truck drivers-- 223 00:08:35,182 --> 00:08:36,750 it's actually for every single person. 224 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,051 You, me, 225 00:08:38,118 --> 00:08:39,853 buddy down the road-- it doesn't matter. 226 00:08:39,953 --> 00:08:42,356 Um, it's all about your free choice. 227 00:08:42,456 --> 00:08:44,458 -(loud honking) -You can't lock up healthy people 228 00:08:44,558 --> 00:08:47,261 and expect them to remain healthy. Okay? 229 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:49,596 So the children have not been in school. 230 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:52,065 I personally believe that is wrong. 231 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:55,269 Um, they sh-- We need to drop the masks, drop the mandates 232 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:56,870 and start living our lives again. 233 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:58,672 Yeah. 234 00:08:58,772 --> 00:09:01,341 What this woman is saying is... 235 00:09:01,441 --> 00:09:02,843 probably poignant? 236 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:05,879 I can't tell. I can barely hear anything over the honking. 237 00:09:06,013 --> 00:09:08,315 Watching this made me feel bad for anyone who's actually stuck 238 00:09:08,415 --> 00:09:09,750 in that traffic all day. 239 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:11,552 Because you realize, if you were stuck in that traffic, 240 00:09:11,652 --> 00:09:14,621 your honk sounds exactly as the protest honk. 241 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:16,456 You can't separate the two. 242 00:09:16,557 --> 00:09:17,824 It's like... (honking) 243 00:09:17,925 --> 00:09:19,359 "Hey, I'm late for work!" 244 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:22,129 "That's right, brother! Down with the vaccines!" 245 00:09:22,229 --> 00:09:24,264 But, yeah, thousands of these truckers 246 00:09:24,364 --> 00:09:26,867 have ground Canada's capital city to a halt. 247 00:09:27,034 --> 00:09:28,702 And I'm all for vaccines, 248 00:09:28,802 --> 00:09:30,938 but I do get why the truckers 249 00:09:31,038 --> 00:09:33,440 wouldn't think that they need them. 250 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:35,642 I mean, think about it-- they spend all day, 251 00:09:35,742 --> 00:09:38,278 every day alone in their trucks. 252 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:41,315 The only person they would give COVID to 253 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,917 are the hitchhikers that they'll murder or get murdered by. 254 00:09:44,051 --> 00:09:45,385 Either way, COVID isn't their biggest problem, 255 00:09:45,485 --> 00:09:47,354 is what I'm saying. Now, what I don't understand 256 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:48,889 is why truckers 257 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,959 are opposed to masks. I don't get that. 258 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:54,461 I mean, masks are just mud flaps for your face. 259 00:09:54,561 --> 00:09:56,129 Just put a sexy lady silhouette on it 260 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:57,531 and you'll feel right at home. 261 00:09:57,631 --> 00:09:59,600 And these COVID protests in Canada are nothing new, 262 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:00,834 by the way. Right? 263 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:02,970 Actually, they're not new anywhere in the world. 264 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:05,172 Like, you can walk around outside basically any day 265 00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:06,540 and you will see people yelling 266 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,375 about how they're not allowed to go outside 267 00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:10,010 to do exactly what they're doing. 268 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,678 But if you live in Ottawa, 269 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:14,615 well, it turns out you might be seeing this particular protest 270 00:10:14,715 --> 00:10:16,717 for a really, really long time. 271 00:10:16,817 --> 00:10:19,152 The, uh, people who have organized this say 272 00:10:19,253 --> 00:10:21,288 that they will stay out there months, if needed. 273 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:24,925 They have raised well over $6 million U.S. 274 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:26,860 to their fund on the GoFundMe page. 275 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,395 -(honking) -NEWSMAN: The truckers say they're prepared 276 00:10:28,495 --> 00:10:29,630 to stay for months, 277 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:31,098 as long as they have fuel. 278 00:10:31,198 --> 00:10:33,433 -You're prepared to stay for a month? -Yeah. 279 00:10:33,534 --> 00:10:35,836 I got a month's worth of food in there. 280 00:10:35,936 --> 00:10:39,339 These are people who have arrived, you know, since Friday 281 00:10:39,439 --> 00:10:42,142 -(horn blowing) -into the rest of this Saturday, 282 00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:45,179 uh, and plan to stay here, many of them say, 283 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:48,982 um, until their demands are met. 284 00:10:49,082 --> 00:10:51,552 Damn, you can really feel these truckers passion. 285 00:10:51,652 --> 00:10:53,754 I mean, you can't hear it because they're honking 286 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:56,757 over everything, but still, you heard them, you know? 287 00:10:56,857 --> 00:10:59,126 They say that they're gonna be there for as long as it takes, 288 00:10:59,226 --> 00:11:01,061 And I... I believe them. 289 00:11:01,128 --> 00:11:04,531 Yeah. Nobody's more prepared for a months-long protest 290 00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:06,066 than a trucker. 291 00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:08,402 I mean, think about it, they have all of our stuff 292 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:10,771 in the back of their trucks. 293 00:11:10,871 --> 00:11:12,506 Next month you're gonna see one of them giving an interview 294 00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:14,708 wearing the Snuggie that you ordered for Christmas. 295 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:16,844 And it's not just having the supplies, by the way. 296 00:11:16,944 --> 00:11:18,579 Truckers make very effective protesters. 297 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,280 Like, they can make a lot of noise, 298 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:21,748 they're used to being away from home, 299 00:11:21,849 --> 00:11:23,417 and police are afraid to confront them, 300 00:11:23,517 --> 00:11:24,852 because any one of those trucks 301 00:11:24,952 --> 00:11:26,220 could just turn into a transformer. 302 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,487 That shit is too risky. 303 00:11:27,588 --> 00:11:29,223 Of course, street protests in general 304 00:11:29,323 --> 00:11:31,191 are a healthy part of any democracy. 305 00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:33,293 You know, like, putting up campaign posters 306 00:11:33,393 --> 00:11:35,329 or drawing dicks on campaign posters. 307 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:37,431 But things got a little out of hand in Ottawa 308 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:39,566 when some of the freedom protesters 309 00:11:39,666 --> 00:11:42,436 decided they wanted a little more freedom 310 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:44,571 than most people were comfortable with. 311 00:11:44,671 --> 00:11:46,473 NEWSWOMAN: While much of the protest was peaceful, 312 00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:48,976 this morning police are investigating some incidents 313 00:11:49,109 --> 00:11:52,279 involving the desecration of national monuments, 314 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:55,115 including Canada's Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. 315 00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:57,117 NEWSMAN: Last night, another protester was seen 316 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:58,652 climbing onto the monument. 317 00:11:58,752 --> 00:12:01,655 This morning it was marked with urine stains. 318 00:12:01,755 --> 00:12:03,524 The swastika flags seen at protests 319 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:05,626 denounced by two conservative MPs 320 00:12:05,726 --> 00:12:07,628 who had openly supported the convoy. 321 00:12:07,728 --> 00:12:09,263 At this shelter in Ottawa, 322 00:12:09,363 --> 00:12:11,965 staff say protesters showed up last night 323 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:14,501 demanding food meant for the homeless. 324 00:12:14,601 --> 00:12:16,069 One member was assaulted, 325 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:19,206 and a security guard was called a racial slur. 326 00:12:19,306 --> 00:12:20,507 Wow. 327 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:22,709 Nazi flags, peeing on war memorials, 328 00:12:22,809 --> 00:12:24,678 shouting racial slurs in homeless shelters. 329 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,680 Honestly, it's kind of refreshing to see Canadians 330 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:27,915 break their stereotype. 331 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:30,150 Although, maybe they did all of this in, like, 332 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:31,451 a very polite way. 333 00:12:31,552 --> 00:12:33,153 Go back to where you came from, eh? 334 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:34,388 I'll give you a ride if you want. 335 00:12:34,488 --> 00:12:36,423 I do kind of feel bad for the vast majority 336 00:12:36,523 --> 00:12:37,925 of the protesters who aren't Nazis, though, 337 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,493 because, like... 338 00:12:39,593 --> 00:12:41,862 I mean, people, let's admit it, once a Nazi flag shows up 339 00:12:41,962 --> 00:12:45,132 at a rally, the whole thing has just turned into a Nazi rally. 340 00:12:45,232 --> 00:12:47,801 You know? It's like when you put the cantaloupe in a fruit salad, 341 00:12:47,901 --> 00:12:49,903 doesn't matter what other fruits are in there, 342 00:12:50,003 --> 00:12:51,705 it'll taste like cantaloupe now. 343 00:12:51,805 --> 00:12:54,575 Cantaloupe is the Hitler of fruits, is what I'm saying. 344 00:12:54,675 --> 00:12:57,678 Well, for more on this saga, let's go now to Desi Lydic, 345 00:12:57,778 --> 00:13:00,280 who is live at the protest. 346 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:02,916 Desi, what's the latest on this trucker protest? 347 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:06,353 -(horns honking) -Trevor, If... (drowned out by honking) 348 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:09,723 (loud honking continues) 349 00:13:10,724 --> 00:13:13,760 Uh, Desi, sorry, can you say that all again, please? 350 00:13:13,861 --> 00:13:16,330 The horns were drowning you out. We couldn't hear anything. 351 00:13:16,430 --> 00:13:18,465 Oh. Guys, could you please stop honking? 352 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:21,301 -(loud honking) -I'm trying... (continues inaudibly) 353 00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:23,971 ...like the penis of a starfish. 354 00:13:24,071 --> 00:13:25,506 -(honking continues) -Sorry, Desi, 355 00:13:25,606 --> 00:13:27,641 the horn-honking was too loud, except for the... 356 00:13:27,741 --> 00:13:29,943 starfish penis-- which, actually, you know what? 357 00:13:30,077 --> 00:13:31,278 Heh. Doesn't really matter. 358 00:13:31,378 --> 00:13:33,213 Actually, could you just tell us what's happening 359 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:35,082 right now in Canada-- where's this going? 360 00:13:35,182 --> 00:13:37,351 Yeah, you know what, let me try Morse code. 361 00:13:37,451 --> 00:13:39,086 -(honking continues) -Morse code? 362 00:13:39,119 --> 00:13:41,488 Yeah, 'cause we're both ship captains in the 19th century. 363 00:13:41,588 --> 00:13:43,590 Okay. What, are you gonna honk out your message? 364 00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:45,092 Mm-hmm. 365 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:47,327 -(honking Morse code) -Uh, oh, Jesus, I haven't done this 366 00:13:47,427 --> 00:13:50,864 in so long. All right, "If... one... 367 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:53,500 "thing is clear... 368 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,469 "it's that the horns... 369 00:13:55,569 --> 00:13:57,571 are too loud." 370 00:13:57,671 --> 00:13:59,706 -(honking continues) -Well, I mean, I knew that. 371 00:13:59,806 --> 00:14:01,642 You didn't have to Morse c... You know what? 372 00:14:01,742 --> 00:14:03,710 Desi, this was a huge waste of time 373 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:06,747 -Thank you so much. -Oh, no, thank you so much 374 00:14:06,847 --> 00:14:08,782 for sending me up to freezing-cold Canada, 375 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:10,050 you asshole. 376 00:14:10,117 --> 00:14:12,186 -(honking stops) -Oh, now you stop honking. 377 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:13,854 Well... that was awkward. 378 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:15,155 All right, when we come back, 379 00:14:15,255 --> 00:14:16,857 we'll be talking about the fallout 380 00:14:16,957 --> 00:14:18,192 with Joe Rogan and Spotify. 381 00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:20,194 -You don't want to miss it. -(horns honking) 382 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:21,662 Why are they honking for me now? 383 00:14:21,762 --> 00:14:23,363 Are they here? 384 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:26,066 I still have my job, right? 385 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:27,334 -Right? -Oh, yeah. 386 00:14:27,434 --> 00:14:29,069 Your job doesn't go anywhere, Desi. 387 00:14:29,169 --> 00:14:30,704 You're cutting out. I can't hear you. 388 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,706 -Your job doesn't go anywhere. -I don't... 389 00:14:32,806 --> 00:14:36,109 -I think I heard you say that I still have my job? -Yes. Yes. 390 00:14:38,812 --> 00:14:41,481 ♪ ♪ 391 00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:44,617 So, Joe Rogan. 392 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,687 I mean, you all know the story, and if you don't know it, 393 00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:50,123 I envy the world that you live in 394 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:51,925 where news just doesn't come to you. 395 00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:54,694 Um, Joe Rogan had to respond finally 396 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:57,730 to the whole Spotify, um, Neil Young thing. 397 00:14:57,831 --> 00:15:00,467 'Cause I'm sure you remember, Neil Young came out, right, 398 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,168 and he was like, "I'm sick of Joe Rogan 399 00:15:02,268 --> 00:15:04,504 "spreading all of this misinformation about vaccines. 400 00:15:04,604 --> 00:15:07,841 "If Spotify's gonna let him, like, um, say all of this trash 401 00:15:07,941 --> 00:15:09,976 on the app, then I want them to take my music off." 402 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:11,077 So then, Spotify was like, "All right, 403 00:15:11,177 --> 00:15:12,679 "well, we'll take your music off. 404 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:14,781 "You're Neil Young, and this is Joe Rogan. 405 00:15:14,881 --> 00:15:16,049 We've paid him millions of dollars." 406 00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:18,485 Do you know what I mean? Like, and I get it. 407 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:20,687 'Cause Spotify was never gonna quit Joe Rogan. 408 00:15:20,787 --> 00:15:22,689 You give a guy a $100 million, you're gonna keep the guy 409 00:15:22,789 --> 00:15:25,558 that you gave $100 million to, cause you've spent the money. 410 00:15:25,658 --> 00:15:27,594 It's the same reason I still drink tummy tea. 411 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:28,995 I bought it in bulk. 412 00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:31,698 All it does is make me shit, but I spent my money. 413 00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:34,901 I don't approve of it, but that's life. 414 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,270 And a lot of people said Neil Young was an idiot 415 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:38,638 for going up against Spotify. I'm not gonna lie. 416 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,073 I didn't think this was gonna do anything. 417 00:15:40,173 --> 00:15:42,108 Like, even me as Trevor. I was like, "Ooh. Neil Young, 418 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:43,643 "thank you for laying your life down, 419 00:15:43,676 --> 00:15:45,178 and things are just gonna carry on." 420 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,180 But it turns out one person can start a movement 421 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,815 because over the weekend, 422 00:15:48,915 --> 00:15:50,750 um, Joni Mitchell said, 423 00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:52,452 "Spotify, take off my music, as well." 424 00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,321 And then, people were like, "Oh, shit. We know Joni Mitchell." 425 00:15:55,422 --> 00:15:57,724 And then Brené Brown came out, and she was like, 426 00:15:57,824 --> 00:16:00,193 "My podcast-- I'm not putting any more episodes up." 427 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:01,561 And that's huge 428 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:05,265 because Brené Brown is like Oprah's therapist. 429 00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:06,366 And I mean, think about it. That's huge 430 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:09,402 because Oprah is our therapist. 431 00:16:09,502 --> 00:16:11,838 And then on top of that, Harry and Meghan came out, 432 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:14,240 and they were like, "We have concerns." 433 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,676 And that seems calm, but for British people, 434 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:21,247 "We have concerns," basically means, "Oh, hell, no!" 435 00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:22,849 So things got big over the weekend. 436 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:25,118 And then, on Sunday night, Joe Rogan comes out, 437 00:16:25,218 --> 00:16:28,354 and he issues his own apology. Right? 438 00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:31,157 This is how big this thing got. 439 00:16:31,257 --> 00:16:33,426 And so, like, after you watch that apology, 440 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:35,328 there's-there's a couple of things 441 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,963 that-that I wanted to say about it. 442 00:16:37,063 --> 00:16:40,233 Um, number one, in my opinion, I actually thought 443 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,736 it was a pretty classy apology from Joe Rogan, you know? 444 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:45,638 For him to say, "I can do better. 445 00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:48,041 "Um, I am not trying to spread misinformation. 446 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:50,410 Uh, you know, I will try and do a better job at this." 447 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:52,779 I actually thought it was pretty classy. And I know 448 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:54,280 some people are gonna say, "Yeah, the only reason 449 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:55,648 "he's saying sorry is because 450 00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:57,450 his bosses are making him say 'Sorry.'" 451 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:59,552 Yeah, but bosses or not, guys, let's be honest. 452 00:16:59,652 --> 00:17:02,922 In this society we live in these days, who says "I'm sorry, 453 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,391 "and I made a mistake, and I don't have all the answers. 454 00:17:05,492 --> 00:17:07,293 I'm just trying to do..."? People don't say that anymore. 455 00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:09,295 Nobody admits to making mistakes anymore, you know? 456 00:17:09,395 --> 00:17:11,531 I was half expecting Joe Rogan to come out and be like, 457 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:13,199 "Uh, guys, my podcast was hacked. 458 00:17:13,299 --> 00:17:15,869 That wasn't me." But instead, he owned up to it. 459 00:17:15,969 --> 00:17:18,938 I thought it was pretty dope. It was refreshing. 460 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,341 You know? Secondly, I also like that he said 461 00:17:21,441 --> 00:17:22,742 "I'm still a Neil Young fan," 462 00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:24,377 even though Neil Young was against his views 463 00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:26,246 in those podcasts. You know what I mean? 464 00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:27,881 I think that was nice. 465 00:17:27,981 --> 00:17:29,315 It's nice to live in the world where we can say, 466 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:31,918 "I don't agree with you, but I still like you." 467 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,687 'Cause that used to be a thing that we could do as people. 468 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:37,090 You know, now we've just turned into a group of people 469 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:38,625 who are like, "I hate you. I hate you 470 00:17:38,658 --> 00:17:39,893 "because you said the thing opposite of me." 471 00:17:39,993 --> 00:17:41,361 "Don't... Get away! 472 00:17:41,461 --> 00:17:43,830 I disagree with you. (bleep) you, Mom." 473 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:46,366 Now you don't talk to your mom anymore. 474 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:48,668 You know? Like, I like that he said that. 475 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:52,305 I-I like a lot of people who I don't agree with on everything. 476 00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:53,873 Like, I don't believe that 477 00:17:53,973 --> 00:17:56,643 "Uptown Funk" is gonna give it to me... 478 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:58,912 but I still love Bruno Mars. 479 00:17:59,012 --> 00:18:00,246 We agree to disagree. 480 00:18:00,346 --> 00:18:03,450 This is society. 481 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:04,951 All right? And-and also, 482 00:18:05,051 --> 00:18:06,486 I-I think... 483 00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:08,021 This is-this is, like, a really complicated 484 00:18:08,121 --> 00:18:09,823 point to make, maybe. Is-is this: 485 00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:12,025 Joe Rogan says that he brings on people who he 486 00:18:12,125 --> 00:18:13,326 doesn't agree with all the time, 487 00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:15,328 but people are pulling a handful of episodes out 488 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,663 and they're angry about those episodes 489 00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:18,331 and they're saying he spreads misinformation. 490 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,233 Now, here's where-- I'm not trying to defend Joe Rogan, 491 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,534 and somebody's maybe gonna do it to me. 492 00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:22,769 They're gonna take a part out and go, 493 00:18:22,869 --> 00:18:24,137 "Trevor defends Joe Rogan, Trevor sl--" 494 00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:26,306 Whatever it is, I don't-- I, myself, am saying this. 495 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:28,341 I understand the nuance of this point. 496 00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:30,410 Joe Rogan makes a shit ton of podcasts, 497 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:32,679 and in those podcasts there were, like, maybe two 498 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:33,947 podcasts or so where people were like, 499 00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:35,682 "We don't like what you, what you said there." 500 00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:37,751 But he's not wrong in saying that he sometimes 501 00:18:37,851 --> 00:18:40,887 brings people on who say the opposite point to that. 502 00:18:40,987 --> 00:18:43,123 And the reason we know that that's true is because 503 00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:46,626 we've all seen that clip of Joe Rogan's where he's 504 00:18:46,693 --> 00:18:49,763 on his show being corrected by somebody on his show. 505 00:18:49,863 --> 00:18:51,765 So, he's not lying when he says he brings people on 506 00:18:51,865 --> 00:18:54,434 "to correct him," and, the-- we saw the correction in live t... 507 00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:55,435 Like, you know what I mean, 508 00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:56,970 happened in real time on his show. 509 00:18:57,070 --> 00:18:58,938 So I go, "Yes, he does bring that stuff on." 510 00:18:59,038 --> 00:19:01,074 But because of the Internet age we live in, 511 00:19:01,174 --> 00:19:03,476 we shit on people based on the little that we see of them. 512 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:05,178 We don't give them the full context. People are like, 513 00:19:05,278 --> 00:19:07,113 "I'm not gonna listen to hours and hours of Joe Rogan, 514 00:19:07,213 --> 00:19:09,549 I'm just gonna get angry about this and move on with my life." 515 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:12,652 So, in his def-- I get that part of what he's saying. 516 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:14,120 All right? 517 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:15,321 I get it. 518 00:19:15,422 --> 00:19:16,890 But everything in life needs context. 519 00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:18,458 Like, if you cut out one part, 520 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:20,527 then sometimes you can lose it, you know? 521 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,395 Because you can watch a movie and then cut out a clip 522 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:23,730 and you'd be like, "Oh, is this a movie about 523 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,365 some guy hooking up with his sister?" 524 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:27,167 So then you're like, "No, this is Star Wars. 525 00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:28,802 There's a lot more shit." 526 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:31,371 The context is very important, is what I am saying. 527 00:19:31,471 --> 00:19:32,972 Right? 528 00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:34,874 Joe Rogan does. He talks about MMA, 529 00:19:34,974 --> 00:19:38,311 He has authors on-- uh, really cool authors sometimes. 530 00:19:38,411 --> 00:19:40,380 You know, he talks to real doctors who disagree with him, 531 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,115 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. He does, he does that. 532 00:19:42,215 --> 00:19:45,385 In Joe Rogan's defense-- I can't believe I'm saying that, now, 533 00:19:45,485 --> 00:19:46,820 but now.... you know, I also want to live 534 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,821 in a reasonable world. 535 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:49,155 In Joe Rogan's defense, 536 00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:51,057 he does bring other people on. 537 00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:56,029 Now, h-here's the issue that I have with the clip, though. 538 00:19:56,129 --> 00:19:57,897 Joe Rogan then goes on to say, 539 00:19:57,997 --> 00:20:00,200 "I'm not trying to spread misinformation, but, 540 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,635 "let's be honest, a lot of the things that we're saying now, 541 00:20:02,669 --> 00:20:05,171 you would be banned for saying a long time ago." 542 00:20:05,271 --> 00:20:06,773 Right? And he says, like, "Remember, a lot of things 543 00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:09,642 "that we said months ago, like, they weren't considered true, 544 00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:11,444 but now they're true." 545 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:14,247 And-and I've noticed this trend starting to happen 546 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:16,549 where people are using what I like it to call, like, 547 00:20:16,649 --> 00:20:19,119 "broken clock techniques." Where they're going, like, 548 00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:22,489 "Oh, it wasn't 4:00 earlier, but it's 4:00 now." 549 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:24,090 Yeah, you were wrong then. 550 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,692 At some point it will be 4:00. 551 00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:27,761 It doesn't mean that now you were right all along. 552 00:20:27,861 --> 00:20:29,796 You can't just wait at the time-- What's the time? 4:00? 553 00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:32,132 No. What's the time, 4:00? No. What's the time, 4:00? No. 554 00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:34,234 What's the time? 4:00. Yes! Ha-ha! I told you. 555 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:35,668 I was right all along. 556 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:36,936 No. 557 00:20:37,036 --> 00:20:38,404 At some point you may be right. 558 00:20:38,505 --> 00:20:40,340 Because here's the thing-- 559 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,208 I'm not saying Joe Rogan himself, 560 00:20:42,308 --> 00:20:44,677 but I know Joe Rogan has not been a COVID vaccine fan. 561 00:20:44,778 --> 00:20:46,446 Joe Rogan and a lot of people like him were like, 562 00:20:46,613 --> 00:20:48,615 "The vaccines are bullshit. They're useless." 563 00:20:48,715 --> 00:20:50,450 Right? And now they're saying, "Look, huh? 564 00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:52,185 We were right. We were right." No. 565 00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:55,255 Omicron gets through the vaccine. 566 00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:58,758 Vaccines will still save your mother(bleep) life. 567 00:20:58,858 --> 00:21:00,260 Have you seen the-the numbers? 568 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,429 The rates of people dying, the rates of people getting sick. 569 00:21:02,529 --> 00:21:05,098 If you don't have it, it's like 7.8 out of 100,000 people 570 00:21:05,198 --> 00:21:07,066 can die. And then when you take the vaccine, 571 00:21:07,167 --> 00:21:09,002 it's, like, nothing. And then when you go down to the booster, 572 00:21:09,102 --> 00:21:10,303 it's, like, even less than nothing. 573 00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:11,704 Do you get what I'm saying? 574 00:21:11,805 --> 00:21:12,939 Omicron changed that. 575 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:14,674 You can't say that, like, "I was right all along 576 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,075 when I became right." No. 577 00:21:16,176 --> 00:21:18,945 You were wrong all along and then now things changed 578 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:20,747 and now you're not as wrong as you were. 579 00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:22,649 That's the first point for me. You know? 580 00:21:22,682 --> 00:21:24,050 The second thing he says as well, he's like, 581 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:25,919 "Oh, if you said, uh, cloth masks 582 00:21:26,019 --> 00:21:28,421 were-were useless back then, you-you would be banned." 583 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,557 You-you weren't-- you weren't banned for saying that. 584 00:21:30,657 --> 00:21:33,793 For months, there's been research on the types of masks. 585 00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:35,862 That's another issue I have. 586 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:38,231 People are taking the words and then they're just cutting 587 00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:39,933 a few words out and be like, "You see? I'm right! 588 00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:41,267 Masks are useless." No. 589 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:44,771 Cloth masks are basically useless. 590 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:46,940 Cloth masks. All right? 591 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,442 Masks still work. 592 00:21:49,609 --> 00:21:51,411 But now people are using cloth masks 593 00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:52,612 to negate all the other shit. 594 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:54,647 "You see? All masks--" No, my friend. 595 00:21:54,748 --> 00:21:56,249 What we've realized is 596 00:21:56,349 --> 00:21:59,119 knitted condoms don't work. 597 00:21:59,219 --> 00:22:00,820 Condoms still work. 598 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,489 You can't be like, "I told you condoms don't work." 599 00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:04,624 No, no, no. Knitted condoms. 600 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,427 Let's be specific about which ones we're talking about. 601 00:22:08,661 --> 00:22:10,463 Again, in Joe Rogan's defense-- 602 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:13,633 I can't believe I've said this sentence so many times-- 603 00:22:13,733 --> 00:22:15,969 the-the thing about COVID coming from a lab, 604 00:22:16,069 --> 00:22:18,638 that could get your post removed from social media. 605 00:22:18,705 --> 00:22:19,873 Again, it didn't get you banned. 606 00:22:19,973 --> 00:22:21,174 But that is a thing, where people are like, 607 00:22:21,274 --> 00:22:22,909 "Ah, it's just a theory." And for a long time, 608 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,678 because of racism towards Asian people, 609 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:27,046 people were really sensitive about that. 610 00:22:27,147 --> 00:22:28,848 'Cause they were just like, "Ah, you Chinese people 611 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:30,183 came with this from your house." 612 00:22:30,283 --> 00:22:31,651 That's how people were saying it. 613 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:33,253 Joe Rogan's like, "No, I wasn't saying it like that. 614 00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:34,421 It's a-- Misinformation." 615 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:36,289 I-I understand that part. 616 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:37,824 You know what I mean? But-but... 617 00:22:37,924 --> 00:22:39,592 people mustn't make it like, "Oh, no, 618 00:22:39,626 --> 00:22:41,027 we were right all along." 619 00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:44,964 This shit has proved everybody wrong in every different way. 620 00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:46,599 You know? 621 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:48,701 It's proved so many people wrong. 622 00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:49,969 I'm not saying Joe Rogan is trying 623 00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:51,805 to spread misin-misinformation. 624 00:22:51,905 --> 00:22:53,973 And he is right. It is just a conversation. 625 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:56,676 But conversations change with context. 626 00:22:56,776 --> 00:22:57,710 Do you know what I mean? 627 00:22:57,811 --> 00:22:59,112 You can say-- anyone-- 628 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:01,314 you can say the election was stolen. 629 00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:03,249 Ain't no thing but a chicken wing. 630 00:23:03,349 --> 00:23:05,452 But when you're the president of the United States 631 00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:06,920 and you say the election was stolen, 632 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:08,221 the context changes. You can't be like, 633 00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:09,823 "I was just having a conversation. 634 00:23:09,923 --> 00:23:12,625 You know, just me and my people, shooting the shit." 635 00:23:12,659 --> 00:23:13,760 It changes a lot. 636 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:15,428 And I think Joe Rogan acknowledges-- 637 00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:16,863 He goes, like, "Yo, I have millions of people 638 00:23:16,963 --> 00:23:19,466 "listening to me, so now I have to be responsible. 639 00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:21,334 "'Cause now I have a boss called Spotify 640 00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:22,836 and now you guys are listening to me." 641 00:23:22,936 --> 00:23:24,170 It's the gift and the curse. 642 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,705 You can say whatever you want when nobody's listening. 643 00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:26,706 And then when everyone's listening, 644 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:28,541 now you have to be responsible. 645 00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:30,944 I mean, it's the same rules as, like, a penis. 646 00:23:31,044 --> 00:23:33,046 When no one's around, do whatever you want. 647 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:34,781 When there's people, oh, 648 00:23:34,881 --> 00:23:36,649 all the responsibility in the world. 649 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:38,351 (laughter) 650 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:39,886 Now there's gonna be a headline. 651 00:23:39,986 --> 00:23:41,988 "Trevor Noah defends Joe Rogan." 652 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:43,590 That's all they're gonna cut out. 653 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:46,659 Or "Trevor Noah slams Joe Rogan." 654 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,961 Now it's like I don't-- There's no-- 655 00:23:48,061 --> 00:23:49,162 You know what I mean? 656 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:50,663 So, welcome to the Internet. 657 00:23:52,352 --> 00:23:53,820 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 658 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,121 My guest tonight is Barbara Lee, 659 00:23:55,221 --> 00:23:56,589 the highest-ranking 660 00:23:56,689 --> 00:23:58,258 African-American woman in Congress. 661 00:23:58,358 --> 00:24:01,427 She's here to talk about current challenges facing Congress 662 00:24:01,528 --> 00:24:04,898 and the documentary about speaking truth to power 663 00:24:04,998 --> 00:24:06,933 throughout her career. 664 00:24:07,033 --> 00:24:09,803 Madame Secretary, you just don't care much about civil rights 665 00:24:09,903 --> 00:24:11,304 -of Black and brown children. -MAN: Ms. Lee. 666 00:24:11,404 --> 00:24:13,106 -This is horrible. -MAN: Gentle lady's time... 667 00:24:13,206 --> 00:24:15,175 CORY BOOKER: What drives Barbara is that she's not 668 00:24:15,275 --> 00:24:16,843 concerned about popularity. 669 00:24:16,943 --> 00:24:19,479 She's concerned about her purpose, not celebrity. 670 00:24:19,579 --> 00:24:23,049 It's about significance in the lives of people. 671 00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:25,185 And this is some... one of the things that makes me 672 00:24:25,285 --> 00:24:28,054 see her, for me, as a guiding light. 673 00:24:28,154 --> 00:24:30,957 Welcome. Hi, Congresswoman. 674 00:24:31,057 --> 00:24:32,725 BOOKER: That every day, no matter what's going on, 675 00:24:32,826 --> 00:24:36,429 you get up, you go out that door for another day of service. 676 00:24:36,529 --> 00:24:40,233 Representative Barbara Lee, welcome to The Daily Show. 677 00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:42,435 Happy to be with you. It's an honor, Trevor, really. 678 00:24:42,535 --> 00:24:46,139 No, I think the honor is mine because, you know, 679 00:24:46,239 --> 00:24:48,341 I've known a little bit about you over the years. 680 00:24:48,441 --> 00:24:49,843 But, um, you have a documentary 681 00:24:49,943 --> 00:24:51,377 that has just come out about your life. 682 00:24:51,478 --> 00:24:54,347 And there are honestly few people 683 00:24:54,447 --> 00:24:57,083 who have acted in movies that have a story 684 00:24:57,183 --> 00:24:59,419 as amazing as yours is in real life. 685 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:00,987 You know, you grew up in a world 686 00:25:01,087 --> 00:25:02,922 where you lived in a segregated community. 687 00:25:03,022 --> 00:25:05,925 Your mother almost died giving birth to you 688 00:25:06,025 --> 00:25:07,627 because she was a Black woman, 689 00:25:07,727 --> 00:25:09,662 and people wouldn't help her in the hospitals. 690 00:25:09,762 --> 00:25:11,364 You know, you went through domestic abuse 691 00:25:11,431 --> 00:25:13,700 as a wife who had to escape a husband 692 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,201 where the law wouldn't protect you. 693 00:25:15,368 --> 00:25:18,571 You have lived such a journey, and to see you here now 694 00:25:18,671 --> 00:25:21,040 as a congressperson who's been serving 695 00:25:21,141 --> 00:25:23,510 for over two decades, you know, with constituents 696 00:25:23,610 --> 00:25:25,278 who love her, is-is quite the journey. 697 00:25:25,378 --> 00:25:27,947 When you watch this movie, did... were you also shocked 698 00:25:28,047 --> 00:25:29,382 at the life that you've lived? 699 00:25:29,449 --> 00:25:30,550 'Cause I know sometimes people forget. 700 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:34,721 Trevor, first of all, uh, yes, I was. 701 00:25:34,821 --> 00:25:37,423 And it was very humbling for me. 702 00:25:37,524 --> 00:25:41,494 And I just have to take a moment and give credit to Abby Ginzberg 703 00:25:41,594 --> 00:25:46,199 who actually tracked me down and forced me to do this film 704 00:25:46,299 --> 00:25:48,201 because I was an unwilling subject. 705 00:25:48,301 --> 00:25:51,404 And she took... It took twice as long 706 00:25:51,504 --> 00:25:53,139 to do the film because of me. 707 00:25:53,239 --> 00:25:54,541 Uh, because this is my life. 708 00:25:54,641 --> 00:25:58,378 And you know, I believe that so much 709 00:25:58,478 --> 00:26:03,950 of what I have been through really has been reflective 710 00:26:04,050 --> 00:26:06,853 of what so many others have gone through in this country, 711 00:26:06,953 --> 00:26:08,755 especially young African-American women. 712 00:26:08,855 --> 00:26:11,658 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -Women, and Black people in general. 713 00:26:11,758 --> 00:26:14,694 It's not for myself that I've done what I have done 714 00:26:14,794 --> 00:26:18,565 and tried to break down barriers and, you know, move forward, 715 00:26:18,665 --> 00:26:19,933 -but it's for others. -Right. 716 00:26:20,033 --> 00:26:22,802 Because, you know, everyone deserves the quality 717 00:26:22,902 --> 00:26:25,705 of life that this country provides for everyone else. 718 00:26:25,805 --> 00:26:27,040 -Right. -And Black lives do matter. 719 00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:29,609 And hopefully, young people especially, 720 00:26:29,709 --> 00:26:31,678 will see the lessons in my life. 721 00:26:31,778 --> 00:26:33,213 I think many-many young people have. 722 00:26:33,379 --> 00:26:36,282 You know, it's apt that you mentioned Black Lives Matter 723 00:26:36,382 --> 00:26:39,185 because your name cannot be separated 724 00:26:39,285 --> 00:26:41,287 from the struggle in the United States. 725 00:26:41,387 --> 00:26:43,756 You're know, you're not just fighting 726 00:26:43,857 --> 00:26:46,459 for people's freedoms, but also fighting an unpopular fight. 727 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:48,595 I mean, you were working with the Black Panthers 728 00:26:48,695 --> 00:26:50,530 for, you know, a long period 729 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:52,565 where many people labeled them as terrorists. 730 00:26:52,665 --> 00:26:55,034 Only today, people are starting to realize that, man, oof, 731 00:26:55,135 --> 00:26:57,003 the U.S. government really did a number on people 732 00:26:57,103 --> 00:26:59,005 with this organization. But you were working 733 00:26:59,105 --> 00:27:01,341 in-in many unpopular positions, 734 00:27:01,407 --> 00:27:04,444 fighting for the liberation of poor people in particular, 735 00:27:04,544 --> 00:27:07,180 and when you got to Congress, 736 00:27:07,347 --> 00:27:08,715 there were many people who said, 737 00:27:08,815 --> 00:27:12,552 "Whatever you do, do not say the word 'poverty.' 738 00:27:12,652 --> 00:27:14,821 Please, don't bring poverty into politics." 739 00:27:14,921 --> 00:27:16,956 And you did just the opposite. Tell me why. 740 00:27:18,591 --> 00:27:21,161 Well, Trevor, I had to do that, because, first of all, 741 00:27:21,261 --> 00:27:23,630 uh, yes, I was a community worker 742 00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:25,965 with the Black Panther Party and the Black Panther Party 743 00:27:26,065 --> 00:27:28,635 had a ten-point program. And that program was about 744 00:27:28,735 --> 00:27:30,370 feeding hungry children, right? 745 00:27:30,436 --> 00:27:32,672 About medical care that was inaccessible 746 00:27:32,772 --> 00:27:35,909 to low-income people, Black people, people of color. 747 00:27:36,009 --> 00:27:39,379 It was about providing the shoes, which we did, clothing. 748 00:27:39,479 --> 00:27:42,282 It was really about providing for the basics 749 00:27:42,382 --> 00:27:45,819 in terms of just survival so that we could move forward 750 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:47,887 to change the conditions that give rise 751 00:27:47,987 --> 00:27:51,858 to all of these very, uh, unbelievable injustices 752 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:54,494 in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world. 753 00:27:54,594 --> 00:27:56,863 So, yeah, uh, when I came to Congress, 754 00:27:56,963 --> 00:27:59,232 I mean, it's like, I come as Barbara Lee, 755 00:27:59,332 --> 00:28:01,534 my experiences. Experiences matter. 756 00:28:01,634 --> 00:28:04,137 And so I had to fight like would you not believe 757 00:28:04,237 --> 00:28:07,907 to get Democrats to con... yes, continue to talk about 758 00:28:08,007 --> 00:28:09,776 fighting for the middle class, but what about 759 00:28:09,876 --> 00:28:12,345 low-wealth people, what about low-income people, 760 00:28:12,378 --> 00:28:13,680 -Mm-hmm. -what about poor people, what about 761 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:16,349 working people, who worked two jobs 762 00:28:16,382 --> 00:28:17,951 and still live below the poverty line? 763 00:28:18,051 --> 00:28:21,521 So it was an uphill battle, but everything is, Trevor, you know? 764 00:28:21,621 --> 00:28:25,258 And so we finally broke through and now I chair the task force 765 00:28:25,358 --> 00:28:26,860 on poverty and opportunity 766 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,195 and we have close to a one... hundred members 767 00:28:29,362 --> 00:28:31,364 on that task force. And every issue, 768 00:28:31,464 --> 00:28:33,233 especially now, with the Biden administration, 769 00:28:33,366 --> 00:28:38,371 uh, intersects with race and income inequality. 770 00:28:38,438 --> 00:28:40,373 And so we're trying to really look at legislation 771 00:28:40,473 --> 00:28:42,509 and funding priorities in the context 772 00:28:42,609 --> 00:28:45,645 of what will lift people out of poverty. 773 00:28:45,745 --> 00:28:47,947 -Right. -So that they can go out and live their lives 774 00:28:48,047 --> 00:28:49,282 and take care of their families. 775 00:28:49,382 --> 00:28:52,051 Um, some people may remember your name 776 00:28:52,152 --> 00:28:54,888 or even your face from maybe one of the scariest fights, 777 00:28:54,988 --> 00:28:58,558 I think, that you've ever, um, taken upon yourself, and that is 778 00:28:58,658 --> 00:29:02,829 fighting against George Bush going into Iraq. 779 00:29:02,929 --> 00:29:05,198 In fact, you were the only dissenting voice 780 00:29:05,331 --> 00:29:08,568 at a time when every American, almost every American said, 781 00:29:08,668 --> 00:29:10,036 "Let's go in and let's bomb people." 782 00:29:10,136 --> 00:29:11,337 You said, "This is not the right thing." 783 00:29:11,404 --> 00:29:13,106 You got death threats, 784 00:29:13,206 --> 00:29:15,542 you were vilified across the board. 785 00:29:15,642 --> 00:29:17,811 I guess my question has two parts to it, 786 00:29:17,911 --> 00:29:19,979 is, um, number one... 787 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,415 when you were doing that, 788 00:29:22,515 --> 00:29:23,783 did you not think to yourself, 789 00:29:23,883 --> 00:29:25,351 "This could be the worst mistake I'm making, 790 00:29:25,418 --> 00:29:27,253 "because although I know I'm right, I know 791 00:29:27,353 --> 00:29:29,355 that the cost that I will pay may be too great"? 792 00:29:29,456 --> 00:29:32,025 And the second part of it is looking at the crisis 793 00:29:32,125 --> 00:29:34,360 happening right now at the Ukrainian border, 794 00:29:34,427 --> 00:29:36,229 are you now in another position where you're saying 795 00:29:36,362 --> 00:29:38,465 to your colleagues, "Hey, let's breathe and think about 796 00:29:38,565 --> 00:29:41,835 the ultimate cost of war before we act"? 797 00:29:41,935 --> 00:29:43,703 Uh, Trevor, let me just first say, um, 798 00:29:43,803 --> 00:29:46,706 I come from a military family. My dad 799 00:29:46,806 --> 00:29:49,175 retired a lieutenant colonel in the army. 800 00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:50,877 He served in the, uh, 801 00:29:50,977 --> 00:29:54,147 segregated 92nd Infantry in Italy, 802 00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:55,982 supporting the Normandy invasion. 803 00:29:56,082 --> 00:29:57,484 I know what war is about. 804 00:29:57,584 --> 00:29:59,786 My dad was the first person who called me-- 805 00:29:59,886 --> 00:30:02,188 and this was the vote right after the horrific, 806 00:30:02,322 --> 00:30:04,858 terrible events of 9/11, where the country 807 00:30:04,958 --> 00:30:07,227 was angry and mourning and had... 808 00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:08,995 wanted us to do something. 809 00:30:09,095 --> 00:30:11,531 But when the authorization came-- three days, mind you-- 810 00:30:11,631 --> 00:30:15,135 after these terrible events-- 60 words-- 811 00:30:15,235 --> 00:30:18,371 it was a blank check and all it said, basically, was 812 00:30:18,471 --> 00:30:22,609 any president can go to war any time he or she wants to. 813 00:30:22,709 --> 00:30:25,879 Took away Congress' responsibility under Article II, 814 00:30:25,979 --> 00:30:27,714 where Congress is supposed to be 815 00:30:27,814 --> 00:30:30,383 the final decisionmaker on going to war. 816 00:30:30,483 --> 00:30:31,751 We gave it to any president. 817 00:30:31,851 --> 00:30:34,120 That was 21 years ago now. Right? 818 00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:35,588 That was outrageous. 819 00:30:35,688 --> 00:30:38,625 My dad was the first person who called me after that vote 820 00:30:38,725 --> 00:30:40,360 and he said that was the right vote. 821 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,695 He said, "Do not send our troops into harm's way. 822 00:30:42,796 --> 00:30:45,398 "Do not do any action right now, 823 00:30:45,498 --> 00:30:46,866 three days, 9/14." 824 00:30:46,966 --> 00:30:48,701 That's when it was. September 14. 825 00:30:48,802 --> 00:30:51,404 "Give it a little bit of time. Be rational. 826 00:30:51,504 --> 00:30:54,374 "Think through the implications of what you're about to do." 827 00:30:54,474 --> 00:30:56,409 So, yeah, it-it was a rough time. 828 00:30:56,509 --> 00:30:58,578 Death threats. I mean, it-it was a horrible time. 829 00:30:58,678 --> 00:31:00,713 But I had to be ready for that, because, you know, 830 00:31:00,814 --> 00:31:03,383 we're elected, Trevor, to lead. 831 00:31:03,483 --> 00:31:05,618 And so fast-forward to today. 832 00:31:05,718 --> 00:31:08,321 First of all, uh, I really do believe-- 833 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:11,491 and I have been to Ukraine, uh, in 2019 834 00:31:11,591 --> 00:31:12,892 and I understand Russian aggression 835 00:31:12,992 --> 00:31:15,061 and what's taking place there very clearly-- 836 00:31:15,161 --> 00:31:17,964 and I believe very clearly that, uh, 837 00:31:18,064 --> 00:31:19,332 Ukraine is a sovereign country 838 00:31:19,399 --> 00:31:21,568 and it has the right to determine its allies 839 00:31:21,668 --> 00:31:23,036 -and its alliances. -Mm-hmm. 840 00:31:23,136 --> 00:31:25,038 And I think that the Biden administration 841 00:31:25,138 --> 00:31:28,575 is doing the right thing by-by exercising 842 00:31:28,675 --> 00:31:31,411 a strong diplomatic initiative. 843 00:31:31,511 --> 00:31:32,979 But we can't mess that up. 844 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,248 We've got to allow diplomacy to work. 845 00:31:35,348 --> 00:31:37,550 We cannot-- And-and I'm concerned about, 846 00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:41,221 um, sending troops and hard military hardware 847 00:31:41,354 --> 00:31:44,657 because, um, even though the president has said 848 00:31:44,757 --> 00:31:47,026 we're not going to enter into combat operations-- 849 00:31:47,127 --> 00:31:48,361 I believe him. 850 00:31:48,461 --> 00:31:50,563 Uh, I know he does not want to do that. 851 00:31:50,663 --> 00:31:52,699 He supports my repeal of the authorization 852 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,767 of the-the use of force. 853 00:31:54,868 --> 00:31:57,737 So I know this president really wants a diplomatic solution. 854 00:31:57,837 --> 00:32:00,340 What I'm concerned about is a miscalculation. 855 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,741 Errors can occur. 856 00:32:01,841 --> 00:32:03,810 Our troops could be there and something could happen 857 00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:05,345 and then they would have to take the offense 858 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,514 -or defense... -Right. And then they're roped in. Yeah. 859 00:32:07,614 --> 00:32:08,681 We talk about sanctions. 860 00:32:08,781 --> 00:32:10,016 We talk about, uh, 861 00:32:10,116 --> 00:32:12,919 what would bring Putin to the table, 862 00:32:13,019 --> 00:32:15,722 uh, and getting him to back off of his aggression. 863 00:32:15,822 --> 00:32:19,526 Uh, I'm not sure if-if sanctions are gonna help or hurt him, 864 00:32:19,626 --> 00:32:22,195 because he wants to do what he wants to do. 865 00:32:22,328 --> 00:32:24,397 And will it aggravate the-- 866 00:32:24,497 --> 00:32:26,733 a-and include, um, efforts, 867 00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:29,335 in his mind, to escalate even further? 868 00:32:29,402 --> 00:32:31,805 -So we have to calibrate this very carefully. -Mm. 869 00:32:31,905 --> 00:32:33,807 I really hope that, uh, 870 00:32:33,907 --> 00:32:36,609 we let diplomacy work and not do anything 871 00:32:36,709 --> 00:32:38,478 that's gonna exacerbate or escalate 872 00:32:38,578 --> 00:32:39,879 what is taking place now. 873 00:32:39,979 --> 00:32:42,382 Because, Putin, we know what he wants to do in Europe 874 00:32:42,482 --> 00:32:43,783 and in Eastern Europe, especially, 875 00:32:43,883 --> 00:32:45,685 and-and with Ukraine. And it's very dangerous. 876 00:32:45,785 --> 00:32:47,687 So we've got to do everything 877 00:32:47,787 --> 00:32:50,623 to, uh, continue on the path of diplomacy. 878 00:32:50,723 --> 00:32:52,125 Well, Representative Barbara Lee, 879 00:32:52,292 --> 00:32:53,293 thank you so much for taking the time. 880 00:32:53,393 --> 00:32:55,728 And, uh, thank you for finally allowing them 881 00:32:55,829 --> 00:32:58,932 to tell an amazing story of the life that you've lived. 882 00:32:59,032 --> 00:33:01,301 Well, thank you, Trevor. Thank Abby Ginzberg. 883 00:33:01,367 --> 00:33:02,735 -She made me do it. -(laughs) 884 00:33:02,836 --> 00:33:04,404 I will do. Thank you so much. 885 00:33:04,504 --> 00:33:06,606 Barbara Lee: Speaking Truth to Power 886 00:33:06,706 --> 00:33:08,575 premieres on Starz February 1. 887 00:33:08,675 --> 00:33:09,709 We're gonna take a quick break, 888 00:33:09,809 --> 00:33:11,411 but we'll be right back after this. 889 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,449 Well, that's our show for tonight, but before we go, 890 00:33:15,549 --> 00:33:17,451 please consider supporting the Loveland Foundation. 891 00:33:17,551 --> 00:33:18,718 They're an organization 892 00:33:18,819 --> 00:33:20,220 dedicated to providing therapy services 893 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,688 to underserved communities, 894 00:33:21,788 --> 00:33:23,790 especially Black women and girls. 895 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:25,826 If you want to support them in their work, 896 00:33:25,926 --> 00:33:28,161 then please donate at the link below. 897 00:33:28,261 --> 00:33:30,397 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there, 898 00:33:30,497 --> 00:33:32,466 get your vaccine, and remember, 899 00:33:32,566 --> 00:33:35,135 my parliament isn't home on Friday, 900 00:33:35,235 --> 00:33:37,737 so party at my place! 901 00:33:37,838 --> 00:33:40,207 Now, here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 902 00:33:40,307 --> 00:33:42,008 ♪ ♪ 903 00:33:42,109 --> 00:33:44,711 Well, of course, the snow is not all fun and games. 904 00:33:44,811 --> 00:33:48,048 Some people were hard at work plowing snow. 905 00:33:48,148 --> 00:33:49,916 What has the snow been like so far? 906 00:33:50,016 --> 00:33:52,686 -Is it kind of easy to plow? -It's real easy. 907 00:33:52,786 --> 00:33:55,856 It's like, uh, bread and butter. 908 00:33:55,956 --> 00:33:58,358 -(laughs) -You know? It's like a Thomas' English muffin 909 00:33:58,458 --> 00:34:00,093 with some jam. 910 00:34:00,193 --> 00:34:03,363 Spreads nice and gets all the nooks and crannies. 911 00:34:03,463 --> 00:34:05,499 ♪ ♪